Conspiracy! The Show The Russian Woodpecker (Free Version)

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Hey everybody, this is Adam,
host of the podcast you’re about

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to listen to.
Just a heads up that we’re on a

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little mini break this week, but
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week to let you know if you
should be worried about the

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domestic terrorist.

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Until then, please enjoy this
episode that was originally

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recorded and released way back
in July 2023.

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But here’s the catch.
It was for subscribers only.

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Now we’re releasing it free for
the whole entire world.

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The episode covers a documentary
about a weird Soviet era

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contraption called the Russian
Woodpecker that may or may not

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have been a massive listening
device capable of spying on most

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of the world.
And again, we’ll be back in

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business with all new episodes
next week.

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Thanks, I love you.
Let’s get to the show.

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Welcome to Conspiracy The Show,
the world’s most trusted

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conspiracy theory podcast, with
your hosts Adam Todd Brown and

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Olivia Hydar.
Hey everybody, welcome to

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conspiracy the show.
I’m your host Adam Todd Brown

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joining me as Co host this week.
Who are?

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You.
I’m Kim Crawl.

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Hi.
Hey, Kim’s here.

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Everyone knows.
I got so excited.

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You’ve been on the pod a few
times.

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You’ve done more than one
conspiracy episode, right?

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I think I’ve only done the one
where I told you I believe that

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Paul McCartney died in 1966,
which I still believe.

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That was a barn burner of an
episode.

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There’s no way you still believe
that.

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All right, different topic this
week.

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What’s barn burner of an
episode?

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What’s that mean?
Why do I get questioned about

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the phrase barn burner so much?
Has no one ever heard that it’s

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just a phrase that describes
something that’s very

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action-packed and fun.
You know, like a burning.

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There are more things that are
action-packed than burning a

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bar, and I feel like you just
set it on fire and then you

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watch it burn.
That’s true.

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Maybe I’m using the phrase
wrong.

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Who knows, Maybe I’ve been the.
Pride.

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I don’t know.
Sayings.

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This whole time.
So I.

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No one knows.
Kim, how’s it going?

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Good, good.
How are you?

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Oh, I’m fantastic, I am.
Does no one ever ask you that?

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No, not really.
Not really.

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People just power past so they
can plug whatever they have to

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plug.
No, I’m joking.

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Sure.
People ask me how I’m doing and

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I’m always.
Good.

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How are you?
I’m great.

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I’m fantastic.
Good every time.

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Yeah, I haven’t had any issues
in my life recently, except that

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needle that was in my face.
But hey, that’s fixed.

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That was.
Wild.

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It sure was.
So I guess all of that makes for

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a very smooth transition into
our topic.

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This week we’re talking about
Chernobyl, which here’s the

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thing, Chernobyl, it was a huge
problem.

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I’m just going to say it, I’m
just going to put it out there

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that what happened at the
Chernobyl nuclear plant

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disaster, I would call it, is
bad.

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I think that that’s a fair, not
on a limb thing to say.

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You’re probably.
Not going out on a limb.

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You’re probably not really old
enough to remember that much

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about Chernobyl, right?
Because you’re like Jeff Sage,

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so you would have been.
Like 5.

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I was like 4.
Yeah, four or five when it

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happened.
Yeah, I was 10.

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So I remember it pretty vividly
like that, the space shuttle,

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Challenger exploding.
Like, I remember all of those

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things because I was in, you
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that.
When did the Challenger explode?

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Because I kind of remember that,
but.

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Also 86, but that.
OK, maybe we just talked about

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it.
Yeah, that made more headlines

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because it was a space shuttle
launch, so countless numbers of

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kids were watching it happen
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And so that’s probably why you
remember that no one was

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watching when Chernobyl blew up,
except probably the CI AM I6,

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things like that.
But we’re pieces.

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We’re covering this theory that
Chernobyl was an inside job.

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And we’re covering it by way of
a documentary called The Russian

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Woodpecker Chernobyl and War in
Ukraine, which given the title,

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you would think just came out in
the last year or two, but it’s

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actually from 2015.
And I’m open to believing that

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there was some sort of sabotage
or something involved when it

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comes to Chernobyl.
I just, I don’t know if I agree

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with the theory that is laid out
in this documentary.

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Well, can I ask you too, like,
why do you believe it’s an

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inside job?
Because nothing happened.

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Like Chernobyl didn’t trigger
anything really, except for the

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deaths of a lot of people.
It’s not like it ended the Cold

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War or the Soviet Union
collapsed right after.

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That’s why I have a hard time
believing like 911, the inside

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jobs and all that stuff.
A lot, 911.

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A lot happened after 911, you
know and well with.

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Chernobyl.
I think it would be more that

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during the Cold War era, we
wouldn’t have wanted Russia or

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the Soviet Union to have that
kind of nuclear capability.

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They already did, but we
certainly didn’t want them

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expanding their nuclear
capability at the time.

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But it’s not that I believe it
was an inside job.

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I’ve never heard a theory
convincing enough to make me

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believe that.
It’s just not the kind of thing

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I put past world superpowers.
No.

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There was an incident in Iran
where a bunch of their nuclear

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facilities were taken down as a
result of a deliberate sabotage

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attack.
And we did that.

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There’s a whole documentary
about it called Zero Day, or 0

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Days, one of the two.
And it’s all about how the US

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and Israel kind of conspired to
destroy Iran’s nuclear

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capabilities by using a computer
virus.

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So it’s not unprecedented that
we would go out and fuck up an

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enemy’s nuclear capabilities on
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It’s just the way it happened at
Chernobyl would make it a much

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bigger crime on our part because
no one died when we broke Iran’s

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stuff.
Chernobyl was like a huge

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disaster, which also I think
plays against the idea that

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someone would do it on purpose.
When we ended World War 2 by

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dropping bombs on Hiroshima,
Nagasaki, right, That killed a

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lot of people and that was
awful, but it ended a war, you

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know what I mean?
It’s like this killed a lot of

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people, but you know, Russia is
still a problematic 40 years

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later.
You know what?

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Like it’s I don’t know.
I have a hard time believing

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this was on purpose, but I
wouldn’t be shocked if I found

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out if it it was.
Yeah, and in this documentary,

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they do give a motive for why it
would have been done on purpose.

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I just don’t.
I think it’s kind of a flimsy

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motive and it’s.
Like, like he said, like it was

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like, oh, OK, now show us.
Yeah.

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Can we see?
Some proof, yeah, not just the

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ramblings of a painter, you
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Sorry, I feel for the guy, but
Jesus.

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And so this documentary opens
with a little bit of a

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disclaimer on the screen.
I don’t know why I said a little

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bit.
It’s just a disclaimer that says

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the authors of this film in no
way intend to injure relations

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between Ukraine, Belarus and
Russia.

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And that becomes important later
on in the documentary, that

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disclaimer.
But yeah, it opens with footage

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of the Maiden protests that
happened in 2014 in Ukraine.

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Cool name, but I think it’s just
like the area where it happened.

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I don’t know that it’s like in
terms of Maiden, I don’t think

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there’s anything else except
it’s like the part of the city

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where it happened.
But I could be wrong about that.

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I don’t know how I would figure
it out.

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The technology does not exist to
allow me to.

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Check Oh, there was a device.
On the fly, Yeah.

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I don’t know.
Get on it, science.

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So that’s the first time we see
the subject of this documentary,

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who, like you said, is a painter
and artiste named Fedor.

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And he is on camera during these
protests talking about how

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Russia is trying to push the
world back toward World War

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Three and how they want revenge
for the collapse of the Soviet

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Union.
And it’s all really kind of

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prescient when you’re watching
it now in 2023, knowing

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everything that’s happened since
this documentary came out.

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This is a guy eight years ago
screaming about how Russia wants

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war and they are going to
invade.

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And sure enough, it happened.
I mean, it’s sort of I.

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Think that’s why I think that’s
why by at the beginning of it

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you’re kind of like, all right,
well, this guy might not just be

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because everything we know now.
Yeah.

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That war has been going on for a
year and a half.

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Yeah, it might even be longer
than that, but.

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Jesus Christ, Yeah.
It’s been going and what’s

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really interesting is he decided
to start making this documentary

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five months before those
protests because he just felt

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like there was something in the
air.

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And what he’s referring to
specifically is Russia trying to

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return to the Soviet Union era
days, because Vladimir Putin has

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said several times that he views
the collapse of the Soviet Union

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as one of the biggest
catastrophes of all time.

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And he would love to rebuild the
Soviet Union and make it what it

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was during the Cold War.
And that’s kind of what Fedor is

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talking about in this
documentary is the return of

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that Soviet era to Ukraine.
And in the end he ends up being

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kind of justified for feeling
that way because a bunch of

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Soviet get Union type shit does
happen to him at one point in

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the course of this.
Yeah, and that’s also why I

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could be convinced to believe
him because of all this Soviet

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type shit that was happening to
him.

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But his proof is the only proof
he has is just the stuff that

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we’ll get to.
But that was happening to him.

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That happened to him.
It definitely seems like he’s on

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to something.
I just don’t know if it’s

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related to Chernobyl or if it’s
more related to that big ass

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radar system that we’re going to
talk about in a minute.

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But you can tell from the
responses of the people he talks

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to in this that he’s at least
scratching at the surface of

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something that Russia doesn’t
want us to know, which that’s

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always interesting.
And so he talks about his

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memories of Chernobyl as a kid
and how all the kids were sent

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away to avoid the radiation and
the fallout.

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And at one point, there’s an
analysis done and they find

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radiation in his bones.
But he also, it seems like,

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doesn’t do anything to treat it.
So he’s just been in pain most

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of his life, according to his
mom.

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So sad.
Yeah, he’s got some trauma under

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his belt.
Living through something like

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Chernobyl would be a real
nightmare.

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And then at one point one of his
friends tells him a story about

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the friend’s grandfather flying
over the Chernobyl reactor after

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it exploded and seeing this huge
gleaming pyramid type structure.

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And with that, Fedor is like,
well I got to go find out what

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the fuck that was and.
I feel like he was like I

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already have radiation, whatever
I’m already in pain how bad can

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it get?
Yeah, that’s got to be his take

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on it because he’s very cavalier
about going back to this area.

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But you see that he also goes
back and like, talks to people

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who are there.
So I don’t know how that works.

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There’s people who are still in
that area, but they also

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describe it as an area that’s so
radioactive you can’t return.

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But also, I know there’s black
market tourism of Chernobyl,

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stuff like that.
But also, would you Google that?

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Does anybody live there?
The answer is super vague.

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It’s like, yeah, but no, it’s a
ghost town, but some people

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maybe near it.
Like literally Google had this

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weird paragraph that was like
well that didn’t answer anything

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it.
All just gives you the shrug

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emoji back when you search.
I don’t know.

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Your guess is as good as mine.
I don’t want to get threatened

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by Russia.
One of the things I found most

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fascinating in this documentary
is the footage of the area

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around Chernobyl after the
explosion because, one, people

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didn’t know what they were
dealing with, so they were just

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still out in the streets while
this radiation is all around

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them.
In the HBO series about

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Chernobyl, the way they depict
that, and this is also something

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they mentioned, is people just
kind of gathered on this bridge

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to watch the fire because it
looked so cool in the night sky.

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And in the HBO series, you see
all of these flakes falling from

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the sky that look like snow
while the people are standing on

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the bridge.
And that’s all radioactive

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fallout.
And what I liked in this

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documentary, in the footage from
Chernobyl right after it

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happened, you can see these
flashes of light in the footage.

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And that’s all radiation.
Like they managed to capture the

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radiation on film and it shows
up as like camera flashes that

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are just happening all around
these people while they’re just

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walking around completely
oblivious to what’s happening.

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I wonder like it was 1986.
That wasn’t something that

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anybody was really afraid of.
Nobody really knew about

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radiation or nuclear power
plant.

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That’s not.
True, because the Three Mile

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Island incident had already
happened in the United States by

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this point, and I don’t.
Know what that is?

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It’s the name of Hooters.
Best wing sauce, for one thing.

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The last thing I like you’re
going to say literally anything

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else that I would have been less
surprised.

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And also Three Mile Island was
the name of a nuclear facility

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in the United States that I, I
want to say it was in

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Pennsylvania.
But there was a movie called The

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China Syndrome that was about a
nuclear reactor melting down in

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the United States.
And a week after that movie came

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out, the Three Mile Island
reactor, which, yes, was in

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Pennsylvania, melted down.
And so we had seen this movie as

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a nation.
And then what’s depicted in that

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movie happened.
And so people were pretty fired

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up about nuclear energy.
Granted, no one died at Three

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Mile Island, which is probably
but.

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Also like.
Hooters is clear to name a wing

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sauce after it because.
Oh, that wasn’t a joke.

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No, I have a bottle of Hooters
Three Mile Island sauce in my

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pantry right now.
It’s great.

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You’re going to sit your pants
and carry it around with me?

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Yeah, keep it in my purse.
But yeah, I guess OK if you say

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that, but I also it’s 1986 like.
Well, that’s the thing did.

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The information get to yeah,
like you know what I mean, like.

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I don’t know that the people of
Ukraine at the time were as up

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on the ramifications of nuclear
energy as people in the United

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States were because, yeah, it’s
probably not a news story that

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you would want to share widely
with people while you’re also

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constructing a nuclear facility
in their backyard.

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So I wouldn’t be surprised if
news about 3 Mile Island didn’t

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really make its way to Ukraine
in the 80s.

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But whatever the case, it took a
long time for the Soviet Union

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to say anything about what
happened at Chernobyl.

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Like 18 days.
And that whole time people were

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just walking around, hanging out
and getting exposed.

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Yeah, massive amounts of.
People they interviewed was

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like, we heard it, but we just
didn’t think much of it.

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Yeah, they showed.
Like, oh.

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They show images from a Mayday
celebration that happened

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shortly after Chernobyl.
And people were just in the

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streets partying and there’s
nuclear fallout all around them

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and they just don’t realize it,
which.

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It’s so sad.
It’s sad, and it also, if Russia

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is upset that people might think
this was a deliberate action.

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They shouldn’t have pulled
stunts like that.

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Like you shouldn’t have waited
18 days while countless numbers

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of Ukrainians were exposed to
nuclear fallout before you said

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anything Because that just feels
like, well, let’s see if we can

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kill some of them off before we
have to do anything about it.

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Bad times.
And so there’s still

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ramifications for the area
today, which is one of the

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things Fedor brings up in the
documentary.

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He’s in Ukraine, near the site
of Chernobyl.

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He’s standing by a sea in
Ukraine, and he says it’s still

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radioactive.
He’s got a huge bottle of wine

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with him.
And I was hoping that was just

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going to be incidental and he
would never address why he had

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the wine, but he actually pours
it in the sea and says that he

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heard that wine helps with
radiation.

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I’d like to know where you heard
that.

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But.
Yeah, where did you hear that,

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painter?
Like where did you?

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Yeah, this documentary is very
artsy, which shouldn’t be like,

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you just need to take one look
at Fedor and you know this

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documentary is going to be very
artsy.

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He looks like he’s.
Very.

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Yeah.
You go first.

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Well, he just looks like he’s
always thinking about painting

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something.
Oh yeah, this would make a good

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mural.
He also has a he has a fantastic

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head of hair.
The whole time I was like the

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head of hair of his.
He’s also very naked in the very

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beginning of it.
For some reason, when they’re

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trying to describe how he
doesn’t fit in this world, he’s

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naked on a boat.
That part gave me a lot of pause

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when his friends are just going
overboard talking about how much

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of A genius he is and how he
just doesn’t fit.

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And I’m like, this documentary
is going to suck.

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It’s going to be.
Yeah, I’m going to level with

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you.
While I was watching that part

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and it’s all in Russian, there’s
subtitles.

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I was like, fuck you, Adam, fuck
you.

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Just kidding.
Not really.

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But I was like, what are we?
What is this?

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Yeah, and it does take a pretty
artsy turn in several spots, but

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he manages to get some
information in, which I

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appreciate.
Hidden cameras.

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There was some stuff was like,
all right, now we’re talking.

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Yeah, I like a lot of the
interview stuff.

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He’s a good interviewer.
There’s a scene early on where

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he goes to Chernobyl and talks
to a guy named Alexander Nomov,

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who is a former Chernobyl guard,
but they’re being interviewed in

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the Chernobyl exclusion zone,
which I’m guessing that’s the

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part of Chernobyl where people
get to be.

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I don’t know.
But yeah, that sounds exclusion

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sounds exclusive.
And Fedor asks him a question.

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And the guy’s response is just,
oh, well, are you a scientist?

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Are you a nuclear scientist?
And he’s like, no, that’s why

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I’m asking the nuclear
scientists the questions.

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And the guy’s like, well, let me
ask you this.

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If your car breaks down, do you
fix it yourself?

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And he sure was expecting Fedor
to say no.

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And he’s like, yeah, yeah, I can
fix my own car.

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Next question.
He’s like a hobby of mine,

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actually, yeah.
And the guy’s like, oh, that’s

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interesting.
But still doesn’t answer,

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doesn’t answer anything.
I understand what is saying is

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you know how a lot of times the
anti vaxxers now have all these

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opinions and you’re like, you’re
not a scientist, but they’re not

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asking scientists.
Fedora’s like I don’t know, but

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these are my questions and
you’re a nuclear scientist.

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So can I ask you and can you
educate that guy?

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Go to jail.
Someone went to jail.

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Yeah, there’s one person.
They show like an archival

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interview with him, but he was
like an engineer at Chernobyl

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and he went to jail for like 10
years.

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Yeah, that guy and that guy kind
of looked the same.

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Yeah, like, I’m sure it was just
that guy who did all this.

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Yeah.
And Jesus, I like all the stuff

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about the Chernobyl employee
town.

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I’ve always found that
interesting that they just

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essentially built a city around
this nuclear facility and when

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it was up and operational, it
seems like it was pretty nice.

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Yeah.
They describe it one, yeah, one

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person says it wasn’t a city, it
was a fairy tale, which that’s

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nice.
And yeah, yeah, I would love to.

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Makes it sadder, actually.
I would love to be able to tour

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all of that now but and people
do.

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There’s and you can’t.
Photos.

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Well, Fedor does in this.
He goes around to a bunch of

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that stuff.
It’s just, I don’t think you’re

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close to, but I also don’t think
because what are they going to

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do, put a bunch of guards in the
highly radioactive area where

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you’re not supposed to go?
Then those guards are just going

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to get exposed to it.
So I think it’s kind.

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Of.
Choose your own adventure kind

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of thing.
OK.

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I don’t know anything about
nuclear exposure, but is that

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always going to be like that?
Like it’s been almost 40 years?

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I mean, nuclear radiation takes
a long time to go away, but I

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think it’s also just some of why
the area is still the ghost town

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that it is has to do with the
fact that they had to build a

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new city just to put people
there to run this nuclear

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reactor.
There’s nothing else out there

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so.
Yeah.

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All right.
People aren’t just going to go

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out there and start putting
houses up because there’s

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literally nothing but the bombed
out remains of Chernobyl and a

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gigantic radar system that we’ll
talk about in a second.

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So I think probably, yeah, part
of it is people just don’t want

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to go back because there’s like
animals and things that have

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made a good life sprouting 3
eyes and six ears and things.

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Well, you know, it’s interesting
that I learned.

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So my cat had to do a
radioactive iodine surgery or

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something like that, like a
procedure for his

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hyperthyroidism.
And when he came back, the vet

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was like, don’t touch him, don’t
go near him for like 2 weeks.

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Minimal contact because he’ll be
radioactive like most of the

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radiation will be.
Yeah, will will be gone at the

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facility, but just don’t bury
your head in him for a week,

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right?
And I was like, OK, I’m like,

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but I have another cat, is she
going to be fine?

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And they were like, well, it
sounds grim, but animals don’t

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have the life expectancy that if
she does get any fallout from

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the radiation, it won’t happen
in her life.

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She’ll die.
So like. 1st.

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Yeah, she’ll die wild, right?
So animals are fine around it.

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Yeah, I guess they don’t.
Live 100 years.

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I guess that makes sense.
Yeah, so.

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Sidebar.
Sorry.

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Oh, no.
And also, I didn’t really curse

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you at the beginning of the
documentary.

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I kind of feel bad that I yelled
that.

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And I was.
Just kidding, but I felt it.

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I felt it in that moment.
I went, did you someone just put

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a curse on me and then I used I
have an Oregon blaster and it

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protects me from federal agents
and curses both.

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Look it up.
What is an Oregon Blaster?

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Oh, we don’t have time to get
into it.

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You’ll have to Google that I.
Retract my apology.

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Go on.
So at one point the documentary

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switches gears and starts
talking about something I had

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never.
I’m sure I’ve heard of it, but I

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just didn’t dig into it at the
time.

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But in 1976, the entire world
starts hearing this weird radio

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signal.
The way they describe it in the

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documentary in 1976, a radio
signal terrorized the Western

435
00:24:09,640 –> 00:24:12,000
world.
And it’s dramatic.

436
00:24:12,200 –> 00:24:15,160
It’s dramatic, but it sounds
kind of accurate.

437
00:24:15,400 –> 00:24:19,640
This was a sound that people
everywhere were hearing.

438
00:24:19,760 –> 00:24:24,360
And it eventually gets traced
back to Russia and to this huge

439
00:24:24,360 –> 00:24:29,440
contraption inside a closed
military town near Chernobyl.

440
00:24:29,560 –> 00:24:32,800
And like, locals were told not
to really ask any questions

441
00:24:32,800 –> 00:24:36,320
about it.
And this device came to be known

442
00:24:36,320 –> 00:24:39,680
as the Russian Woodpecker
because of the sound it would

443
00:24:39,680 –> 00:24:42,800
make, which I will play real
quick for people at home.

444
00:24:53,280 –> 00:24:55,960
Did it change the way you feel
after hearing it?

445
00:24:55,960 –> 00:24:57,600
Because that’s what people were
worried about.

446
00:24:57,720 –> 00:25:00,280
I mean, it didn’t change the
way, but when I heard, you’re

447
00:25:00,280 –> 00:25:04,280
right, the drama of it all is
justified because that is.

448
00:25:04,480 –> 00:25:08,600
It’s a weird sound and if you
were just hearing it without any

449
00:25:08,600 –> 00:25:12,040
explanation and you couldn’t
figure out where it came from, I

450
00:25:12,040 –> 00:25:14,280
could see how it would be a
little bothersome.

451
00:25:15,240 –> 00:25:19,280
Like it I’m sure is along the
same lines of how Havana

452
00:25:19,280 –> 00:25:23,280
Syndrome works, which that’s the
thing where all the people at

453
00:25:23,280 –> 00:25:26,520
the US Embassy in Cuba, we’re
hearing a weird noise that was

454
00:25:26,520 –> 00:25:30,560
giving them health problems and
fucking with their attitudes.

455
00:25:30,640 –> 00:25:31,960
You didn’t hear anything about
this?

456
00:25:32,200 –> 00:25:34,400
No, sometimes I think I live in
a home.

457
00:25:37,080 –> 00:25:39,440
It’s also an interesting thing
to look up.

458
00:25:39,520 –> 00:25:42,600
They still haven’t really
figured out what was causing it.

459
00:25:42,720 –> 00:25:45,920
There’s been, like, speculation
and theories about what is

460
00:25:45,920 –> 00:25:48,760
causing it, but no one knows for
sure.

461
00:25:48,920 –> 00:25:53,440
And it seems pretty similar to
what the Russian woodpecker was,

462
00:25:53,600 –> 00:25:56,480
where for a long time people
were like, we cannot explain the

463
00:25:56,480 –> 00:25:59,360
sound.
And yeah, the concern was that

464
00:25:59,360 –> 00:26:03,760
Russia was using it to alter
people’s moods, which with a

465
00:26:03,760 –> 00:26:08,280
theory like that which we just
covered, a wild theory that the

466
00:26:08,280 –> 00:26:15,000
Nazis changed the tuning
frequency of music to fuck with

467
00:26:15,000 –> 00:26:17,800
people emotionally.
And in that case, and in this

468
00:26:17,800 –> 00:26:21,800
case, both my question would be,
well, to what end?

469
00:26:22,000 –> 00:26:27,000
Like how is this going to impact
people’s feelings and emotions?

470
00:26:27,000 –> 00:26:29,680
And when it does, what’s that
going to cause?

471
00:26:29,880 –> 00:26:35,040
And also, how would Russia do
this all around the world, use

472
00:26:35,040 –> 00:26:38,960
this radio signal to manipulate
people’s feelings without also

473
00:26:38,960 –> 00:26:43,360
adversely impacting the feelings
of their own citizens who are

474
00:26:43,480 –> 00:26:47,240
obviously going to hear it the
most and the loudest.

475
00:26:47,400 –> 00:26:51,080
So I don’t think that’s what
Russia was up to with this huge

476
00:26:51,080 –> 00:26:53,000
contraption.
I think when it started

477
00:26:53,000 –> 00:26:56,320
happening, they probably were
like, fuck, fuck, you know, I

478
00:26:56,320 –> 00:26:58,760
don’t think it was a on purpose,
right?

479
00:26:58,760 –> 00:27:01,480
I think it exposed this thing
that they didn’t want to be

480
00:27:01,480 –> 00:27:03,880
exposed.
Yeah, that’s probably more

481
00:27:03,880 –> 00:27:06,240
likely that they weren’t
expecting it.

482
00:27:06,800 –> 00:27:10,800
Like literally alert everyone
around the world that Russia’s

483
00:27:10,800 –> 00:27:15,520
building a super radar system.
And so, but Fedor thinks there’s

484
00:27:15,520 –> 00:27:20,440
a tie between this device and
Chernobyl because, I mean, they.

485
00:27:20,480 –> 00:27:25,240
Are so hard not to be like, oh,
if Fedor thinks it’s hard not to

486
00:27:25,240 –> 00:27:28,200
be sarcastic with this fella, I
feel for him, but it’s hard not

487
00:27:28,200 –> 00:27:30,400
to.
Yeah, that’s very true.

488
00:27:30,560 –> 00:27:33,800
And we find out the Russian
woodpecker was actually called

489
00:27:33,800 –> 00:27:39,160
the Duga Radar DUGA.
And he thinks that there is some

490
00:27:39,160 –> 00:27:43,360
kind of connection.
So he goes and interviews a

491
00:27:43,360 –> 00:27:47,760
Russian weapons maker about the
woodpecker who says it’s not

492
00:27:47,760 –> 00:27:51,920
possible that this device could
have been tied to Chernobyl at

493
00:27:51,920 –> 00:27:55,080
all.
And when he asks again, could

494
00:27:55,080 –> 00:27:58,000
there be a connection between
the Duga radar and Chernobyl,

495
00:27:58,120 –> 00:28:02,480
the guy goes into like defense
of the Soviet Union mode.

496
00:28:02,640 –> 00:28:05,760
And he’s like to answer that.
Let me tell you about Stalin.

497
00:28:06,320 –> 00:28:09,080
And then he just starts talking
about how cool Stalin was.

498
00:28:09,080 –> 00:28:12,960
And meanwhile Fedor has several
relatives who were like murdered

499
00:28:13,000 –> 00:28:16,360
by the Stalin regime.
So it’s an awkward moment.

500
00:28:16,360 –> 00:28:19,800
Stalin wasn’t great.
No, no, definitely not.

501
00:28:20,200 –> 00:28:23,200
Weird person to be, yeah.
And so that’s when they but.

502
00:28:23,200 –> 00:28:26,680
Again, doesn’t answer questions.
No one answers questions.

503
00:28:26,800 –> 00:28:31,800
It’s like a weird redirect.
And that’s when they decide to

504
00:28:31,800 –> 00:28:36,600
start using hidden cameras,
which I guess that’s legal in

505
00:28:36,600 –> 00:28:38,480
Russia.
Like that I don’t think would

506
00:28:38,480 –> 00:28:41,920
fly here.
Well, you can illegally like you

507
00:28:41,920 –> 00:28:45,000
can secretly record someone if
you’re doing it to contradict a

508
00:28:45,000 –> 00:28:46,880
lie.
But I don’t know if that.

509
00:28:46,880 –> 00:28:52,560
Is that what the law is?
Yeah, in some cases, but I don’t

510
00:28:52,560 –> 00:28:55,240
know if that applies to like
making a documentary.

511
00:28:55,360 –> 00:28:59,920
I think it applies more to this
person knows they did what I’m

512
00:28:59,920 –> 00:29:03,960
taking them to court over and I
caught them admitting it on

513
00:29:03,960 –> 00:29:07,160
tape.
Like then I think it’s fine.

514
00:29:07,480 –> 00:29:11,360
But in this case, I don’t know
that how he did this would be

515
00:29:11,360 –> 00:29:16,200
legal in the US.
Also, how dumb are these Russian

516
00:29:16,200 –> 00:29:20,240
scientists and politicians that
he talks to that?

517
00:29:20,600 –> 00:29:24,520
Yeah, when this camera crew
comes back to ask more

518
00:29:24,520 –> 00:29:26,320
questions, they’re like, is the
camera off?

519
00:29:26,320 –> 00:29:28,040
And they’re like, yeah, of
course.

520
00:29:28,440 –> 00:29:30,520
And then they just tell them
everything they want to know.

521
00:29:30,640 –> 00:29:33,240
You’re right because they are
like, oh look with the cameras

522
00:29:33,240 –> 00:29:35,200
there and all the cameras are
off all right, come here.

523
00:29:35,200 –> 00:29:37,120
Let me tell you a story and
it’s.

524
00:29:37,400 –> 00:29:39,600
In it, yeah.
It changes the whole tone.

525
00:29:39,960 –> 00:29:42,560
Then they start answering
questions openly.

526
00:29:42,560 –> 00:29:45,160
They’re fucking slamming vodka
with them.

527
00:29:45,160 –> 00:29:48,000
It’s it’s crazy.
One guy with the vodka, it was

528
00:29:48,000 –> 00:29:49,920
like, how big is that fucking
cup?

529
00:29:49,920 –> 00:29:51,840
Take a breath.
Yeah, it was.

530
00:29:52,160 –> 00:29:55,960
He was getting after it crazy.
And I lived with a Russian girl

531
00:29:55,960 –> 00:29:58,040
once.
She drank vodka like it was

532
00:29:58,120 –> 00:29:59,920
butter every day.
It was wild.

533
00:30:00,000 –> 00:30:00,880
Really.
Yeah.

534
00:30:00,880 –> 00:30:02,920
That’s nuts.
It’s too much vodka.

535
00:30:03,000 –> 00:30:05,360
Yeah, going to be honest.
I don’t like vodka that much.

536
00:30:05,360 –> 00:30:07,520
It’s not my.
And so in one of these

537
00:30:07,520 –> 00:30:09,960
interviews, one of the military
people they talked to just

538
00:30:09,960 –> 00:30:15,000
straight up says the Duga radar
was a classified military thing,

539
00:30:15,160 –> 00:30:20,520
and they essentially steal a
list of Duga radar employees

540
00:30:20,680 –> 00:30:22,920
from this guy.
How did they get that?

541
00:30:22,920 –> 00:30:24,920
Like I couldn’t.
I’m like, where did they just

542
00:30:25,320 –> 00:30:27,920
because he went to the bathroom
and then he had it and I was

543
00:30:27,920 –> 00:30:31,000
like, did he just have that
laying around randomly, you

544
00:30:31,000 –> 00:30:31,920
know?
Yeah.

545
00:30:31,920 –> 00:30:35,280
Was this guy like, because he
had to have agreed to at least

546
00:30:35,280 –> 00:30:37,840
show them the list?
Because they do get the list.

547
00:30:37,840 –> 00:30:40,560
And it looks like, yeah, they
took a picture of it in the

548
00:30:40,560 –> 00:30:43,200
bathroom.
So was one of the film makers

549
00:30:43,200 –> 00:30:45,520
just like hey can I at least
look at the list?

550
00:30:45,520 –> 00:30:48,800
Also do you mind if I look at it
while I’m taking a huge shit?

551
00:30:49,880 –> 00:30:52,040
Like, how did he get the list
into the bathroom?

552
00:30:52,120 –> 00:30:54,440
I when they was going to the
bathroom, I’m like, are we gonna

553
00:30:54,440 –> 00:30:55,960
watch this dude pee?
What’s happening?

554
00:30:55,960 –> 00:30:59,320
And then he pulled that out.
Yeah, yeah, I don’t know how

555
00:30:59,320 –> 00:31:01,320
that happened.
I can’t imagine being like,

556
00:31:01,320 –> 00:31:02,680
sure, take it to the bathroom
with you.

557
00:31:02,680 –> 00:31:05,160
That seems normal.
Like they had to have like, just

558
00:31:05,160 –> 00:31:08,560
snuck it in there probably after
the guy got super hammered.

559
00:31:08,760 –> 00:31:11,200
Who knows, maybe.
That was the goal.

560
00:31:12,120 –> 00:31:15,600
And so, yeah, they eventually
you get this list of employees.

561
00:31:15,600 –> 00:31:19,640
They track down a guy who says
that people call him the Antenna

562
00:31:19,640 –> 00:31:22,000
Man.
I bet no one calls you that.

563
00:31:22,240 –> 00:31:24,920
I bet you call yourself.
You you call yourself that.

564
00:31:24,920 –> 00:31:26,160
It’s fine.
Antenna man.

565
00:31:26,280 –> 00:31:29,080
And you ask the people call you
that, and yeah, we will.

566
00:31:29,080 –> 00:31:31,080
We’ll call you Antenna man.
Why not?

567
00:31:31,200 –> 00:31:33,040
But we’ll make fun of you behind
your back.

568
00:31:34,840 –> 00:31:38,120
But he’ll hear it with the Duga
radar that he was building

569
00:31:38,640 –> 00:31:42,160
because he talks about how, for
one thing, it costs more money

570
00:31:42,280 –> 00:31:46,880
than the Chernobyl plant, and it
worked by bouncing rays off the

571
00:31:46,880 –> 00:31:50,280
ionosphere.
Kim, are you familiar with

572
00:31:50,280 –> 00:31:54,000
HAARP?
No, I’m barely familiar with the

573
00:31:54,000 –> 00:31:56,640
ionosphere, so give me a science
lesson.

574
00:31:56,640 –> 00:32:00,080
Oh, man, I don’t know shit about
the ionosphere either, but HAARP

575
00:32:00,200 –> 00:32:06,720
is this huge array of like radar
dishes or satellite dishes in

576
00:32:06,720 –> 00:32:11,240
Alaska that according to
conspiracy theory the United

577
00:32:11,240 –> 00:32:16,440
States can use to change the
weather all around the world.

578
00:32:16,640 –> 00:32:20,360
And it works by firing beams
into the ionosphere.

579
00:32:20,520 –> 00:32:23,160
It’s a whole thing we’ve done.
We did a whole other episode

580
00:32:23,160 –> 00:32:25,280
about it, but.
Do you believe that?

581
00:32:25,640 –> 00:32:33,000
There is a patent or a device
that’s very similar that if it

582
00:32:33,000 –> 00:32:36,600
was ever built it would probably
work the way conspiracy

583
00:32:36,600 –> 00:32:41,360
theorists say it would work.
And EU s s argument against that

584
00:32:41,360 –> 00:32:47,040
has always been, well that
patent is 1 beam, like one

585
00:32:47,040 –> 00:32:51,120
really powerful beam that shoots
into the ionosphere, whereas

586
00:32:51,320 –> 00:32:55,960
HAARP is just a bunch of smaller
beams that shoot into the

587
00:32:55,960 –> 00:32:59,680
ionosphere.
But there is a someone

588
00:32:59,680 –> 00:33:02,920
eventually found like an
operating manual for HAARP, and

589
00:33:02,920 –> 00:33:06,400
in that manual it makes it
really clear that they’re able

590
00:33:06,400 –> 00:33:10,800
to take all of these smaller
beams and concentrate them into

591
00:33:10,800 –> 00:33:14,760
one more powerful beam and shoot
it into the ionosphere.

592
00:33:14,880 –> 00:33:18,840
So I don’t know.
People should listen to the

593
00:33:18,840 –> 00:33:21,400
episode.
I did a lot of research on it.

594
00:33:21,400 –> 00:33:26,800
One thing I found is there was a
point where the US government,

595
00:33:26,800 –> 00:33:30,160
when they controlled HARP, on
their website, it said one of

596
00:33:30,160 –> 00:33:33,760
its purposes was like military
and defense.

597
00:33:33,960 –> 00:33:37,720
And then they eventually just
took that out of the description

598
00:33:37,880 –> 00:33:40,080
after people started asking
questions.

599
00:33:40,440 –> 00:33:42,640
And then they said it was just
for like research.

600
00:33:42,880 –> 00:33:46,240
So it’s a weird thing, like, can
we control the weather?

601
00:33:46,240 –> 00:33:49,560
I don’t, I don’t know.
But we certainly spent a lot of

602
00:33:49,560 –> 00:33:53,720
fucking money building that
thing for apparently just to

603
00:33:53,720 –> 00:33:55,960
monitor the weather, not to do
anything with it.

604
00:33:56,160 –> 00:33:58,960
But if that’s true, then what
about all the defense stuff?

605
00:33:59,120 –> 00:34:04,800
There’s definitely science that
believes the ionosphere can be

606
00:34:04,920 –> 00:34:09,159
manipulated in a way that would
allow you to like, change moods,

607
00:34:09,360 –> 00:34:11,159
change the weather, things like
that.

608
00:34:11,320 –> 00:34:13,639
Interesting.
Yeah, I mean, I could see it

609
00:34:13,639 –> 00:34:14,920
more for a change in the
weather.

610
00:34:14,920 –> 00:34:19,199
I still don’t understand the
change people’s moods thing and

611
00:34:19,199 –> 00:34:23,120
how that is supposed to work.
I mean, OK, so I’m going to get

612
00:34:23,120 –> 00:34:26,000
a little, I don’t know what the
word is, hippie on you.

613
00:34:26,000 –> 00:34:29,760
I don’t know.
So how the full moon effects

614
00:34:29,880 –> 00:34:32,239
behavior, right?
Like the full moon effects

615
00:34:32,239 –> 00:34:36,280
behavior affects the tides and
they say the reason why we’re

616
00:34:36,280 –> 00:34:39,159
affected by the moon, the way
the tides are affected by the

617
00:34:39,159 –> 00:34:42,440
moon is because we’re also what,
like 80% water, right?

618
00:34:42,440 –> 00:34:45,480
So it’s not too far fetched if
they’re able to.

619
00:34:45,840 –> 00:34:47,520
Yeah, I don’t.
Know, and there’s just so much

620
00:34:47,520 –> 00:34:50,480
we just don’t know about the
human brain, body, all of it.

621
00:34:50,480 –> 00:34:52,560
You know, what do we know?
Like 10% of all of it.

622
00:34:52,800 –> 00:34:54,679
Yeah, there’s a lot we don’t
know.

623
00:34:55,040 –> 00:34:58,520
And yeah, in this case, they
don’t really explain it either.

624
00:34:58,720 –> 00:35:02,160
Like they try to explain how
this thing would work, but one

625
00:35:02,160 –> 00:35:05,640
of the problems you run into is
that it didn’t work because what

626
00:35:05,640 –> 00:35:08,800
they say happened, and I found
this interesting, was they

627
00:35:08,800 –> 00:35:13,040
couldn’t get the signal past the
Northern Lights.

628
00:35:13,240 –> 00:35:16,680
The Northern Lights interfered
with the signal of the Duga

629
00:35:16,680 –> 00:35:21,920
radar in such a way that it
wasn’t able to reach the United

630
00:35:21,920 –> 00:35:25,240
States the way they wanted it
to, which I found that

631
00:35:25,240 –> 00:35:28,240
fascinating.
But it’s like one of the people

632
00:35:28,240 –> 00:35:30,440
who worked on it is the one who
says that.

633
00:35:30,600 –> 00:35:33,760
He just straight up says the
Northern Lights protected the

634
00:35:33,760 –> 00:35:36,560
United States from the Duga
radar.

635
00:35:36,680 –> 00:35:38,440
What if we made the Northern
Lights?

636
00:35:38,640 –> 00:35:39,960
That would be amazing.
What if we?

637
00:35:39,960 –> 00:35:41,520
Should do a whole episode on
that.

638
00:35:41,520 –> 00:35:44,240
Yeah, the United States invented
the Northern Lights.

639
00:35:44,400 –> 00:35:47,360
We made them with Harp.
I mean, I also think that there

640
00:35:47,360 –> 00:35:51,120
was a way for them to control
our, our minds and like at least

641
00:35:51,120 –> 00:35:53,960
manipulate our minds.
They’d be doing it, you know

642
00:35:54,600 –> 00:35:56,680
they’d be doing it now.
Yeah, it’d be happening.

643
00:35:57,120 –> 00:36:00,520
They do have ways to do that and
I think it’s called social

644
00:36:00,520 –> 00:36:03,120
media.
Oh yeah, that affected like a

645
00:36:03,120 –> 00:36:05,560
whole election.
Yeah, I’m pretty sure that’s how

646
00:36:05,560 –> 00:36:10,800
our moms are being manipulated.
And not everyone’s, but enough.

647
00:36:11,160 –> 00:36:13,480
Definitely more than enough.
Yeah.

648
00:36:13,680 –> 00:36:16,760
How about that scene when Fedor
climbs this antenna?

649
00:36:16,880 –> 00:36:21,160
I cannot stress how high off the
ground this thing is and he goes

650
00:36:21,160 –> 00:36:24,200
all the way up to the top.
I think he might be affected by

651
00:36:24,200 –> 00:36:27,560
that radiation like a little bit
more than just his like bone

652
00:36:27,560 –> 00:36:29,160
marrow.
Like I don’t think he’s playing

653
00:36:29,160 –> 00:36:31,720
with a full deck.
Yeah, I don’t know how you could

654
00:36:31,720 –> 00:36:35,360
not be affected by all that
radiation in your system.

655
00:36:35,560 –> 00:36:39,200
And also watching lots of people
die growing up in that time and

656
00:36:39,200 –> 00:36:41,800
the in Ukraine and the Cold War,
Yeah, all that stuff.

657
00:36:41,800 –> 00:36:45,120
But yeah, he climbed.
I mean, this thing was how tall

658
00:36:45,120 –> 00:36:48,400
was this thing?
I don’t think they said

659
00:36:48,400 –> 00:36:52,600
specifically, but is Google
powerful enough to tell me?

660
00:36:52,600 –> 00:36:58,080
Yeah, the antenna spanned 700
meters in length.

661
00:36:58,080 –> 00:37:04,240
That’s 2300 feet and was 150
meters high, which is 490 feet.

662
00:37:04,480 –> 00:37:07,760
So it’s huge.
It is massive.

663
00:37:07,920 –> 00:37:12,400
It’s not unlike HAARP.
The only difference is with this

664
00:37:12,400 –> 00:37:18,640
they’re like vertical columns of
radar systems, and with HAARP

665
00:37:18,640 –> 00:37:20,520
they’re all on the ground as
opposed to.

666
00:37:20,520 –> 00:37:23,240
And how long?
2300 feet long.

667
00:37:23,560 –> 00:37:25,920
Yeah, pretty long.
I don’t even know how to like.

668
00:37:26,280 –> 00:37:29,800
That’s how.
Not many feet long is the United

669
00:37:29,800 –> 00:37:32,880
States.
More than 2300, that’s for sure.

670
00:37:33,040 –> 00:37:37,760
I mean.
OK. 23 Well, 2300 feet, there’s

671
00:37:37,760 –> 00:37:41,760
what, 5280 feet in a mile?
So it’s just I.

672
00:37:41,840 –> 00:37:43,680
Think you’re asking me wrong
person.

673
00:37:44,040 –> 00:37:48,320
It’s just like under half a
mile, basically 2300 feet.

674
00:37:48,520 –> 00:37:49,800
Now you put it that way, it’s
not.

675
00:37:50,320 –> 00:37:51,520
That’s still.
Long.

676
00:37:51,920 –> 00:37:57,160
If you drive back to LA from Las
Vegas, you’ll hit a point where

677
00:37:57,160 –> 00:38:00,600
there’s just these, it’s got to
be a military thing.

678
00:38:00,760 –> 00:38:05,800
And there’s every probably
couple 1000 feet, there’s like

679
00:38:05,800 –> 00:38:09,200
these white buildings and
there’s all these antennas and

680
00:38:09,200 –> 00:38:11,840
it’s like in the middle of
Nevada, it might actually be in

681
00:38:11,840 –> 00:38:16,840
California, but it carries on
for a long, long time like miles

682
00:38:16,840 –> 00:38:20,000
and miles and miles and.
I don’t remember this at all.

683
00:38:20,360 –> 00:38:23,360
I mean, you got to be looking
for it like it’s just in the

684
00:38:23,360 –> 00:38:26,480
middle of the day desert, and
once you see it, you’re going to

685
00:38:26,480 –> 00:38:29,960
see that it repeats for a long,
long, long time.

686
00:38:30,120 –> 00:38:32,320
And I mean, what the fuck is
that?

687
00:38:32,520 –> 00:38:35,800
It’s kind of the same thing.
Like sometimes this shit just

688
00:38:35,800 –> 00:38:38,680
pops up.
And I mean, in the case of this

689
00:38:38,880 –> 00:38:42,200
Duga radar, the people around
the area were just told not to

690
00:38:42,200 –> 00:38:46,400
even ask any questions, which is
probably what would happen if

691
00:38:46,400 –> 00:38:50,000
you went poking around the thing
I’m talking about in California

692
00:38:50,000 –> 00:38:53,160
that I can’t even explain.
I would ask less questions if

693
00:38:53,160 –> 00:38:56,920
they just answered a few non
important questions.

694
00:38:56,960 –> 00:38:58,200
You know what I mean?
If they gave me some.

695
00:38:58,200 –> 00:39:00,400
But if they’re like don’t ask
questions, I’d be like, I have

696
00:39:00,400 –> 00:39:02,840
many more questions now.
Yeah, of course.

697
00:39:02,840 –> 00:39:05,520
That’s how it always works.
And that’s kind of what happens

698
00:39:05,520 –> 00:39:09,080
in this documentary because they
at some point refused to answer

699
00:39:09,080 –> 00:39:10,960
his questions.
So he starts asking more

700
00:39:10,960 –> 00:39:13,640
questions with the camera hidden
instead.

701
00:39:13,840 –> 00:39:18,640
And one of the people they
talked to is a Russian radar

702
00:39:18,640 –> 00:39:20,240
specialist.
He says he doesn’t want to

703
00:39:20,240 –> 00:39:25,240
appear on camera so they just
secretly film him and.

704
00:39:25,800 –> 00:39:27,680
You’re right, I didn’t think
about this all, I was watching

705
00:39:27,680 –> 00:39:30,480
it.
How truly not legal all this?

706
00:39:30,960 –> 00:39:34,000
Not the most ethical
documentary, that’s for sure.

707
00:39:34,080 –> 00:39:36,560
It’s like, hey, how about we get
a bunch of old Russian guys

708
00:39:36,560 –> 00:39:39,360
killed by the KGB?
That’ll be fun.

709
00:39:39,360 –> 00:39:40,440
Oh.
My God.

710
00:39:41,240 –> 00:39:45,520
And this guy asks why Fedor is
suddenly so interested in the

711
00:39:45,520 –> 00:39:48,680
Duga radar.
And it’s like an kind of an

712
00:39:48,680 –> 00:39:52,880
uneasy moment where I think
Fedor realizes he’s probably on

713
00:39:52,880 –> 00:39:57,080
a list now, like he’s maybe
asked one too many questions.

714
00:39:57,240 –> 00:40:01,960
But then the guy says they built
the Duga as a counter espionage

715
00:40:01,960 –> 00:40:05,920
tool in response to the US
putting all of their monitoring

716
00:40:05,960 –> 00:40:09,680
equipment so close to the Soviet
border, which that’s one of the

717
00:40:09,960 –> 00:40:14,160
conflicts that’s really.
At the heart of Russia invading

718
00:40:14,160 –> 00:40:18,360
Ukraine, like on top of Russia,
I think legitimately wanting to

719
00:40:18,360 –> 00:40:22,600
just rebuild a version of the
Soviet Union and being a nation

720
00:40:22,600 –> 00:40:26,840
run by a moral less monster in
Vladimir Putin.

721
00:40:26,840 –> 00:40:31,680
But also since World War Two,
countries on Russia’s border

722
00:40:31,680 –> 00:40:37,080
keep joining NATO, and NATO is
our alliance in Europe that is

723
00:40:37,080 –> 00:40:42,200
meant to keep Russia in check.
And at one point, at least

724
00:40:42,200 –> 00:40:47,240
according to Putin’s claims, we
promised Russia that if the

725
00:40:47,240 –> 00:40:51,720
Soviet Union fell, we wouldn’t
start like just surrounding them

726
00:40:51,720 –> 00:40:54,840
with NATO allies.
But we did start surrounding

727
00:40:54,840 –> 00:41:00,320
them with NATO allies.
And that is Putin’s complaint

728
00:41:00,480 –> 00:41:03,000
is, well, now we’re just
surrounded by American allies.

729
00:41:03,000 –> 00:41:04,600
Now we got to start doing
something about it.

730
00:41:04,720 –> 00:41:09,560
The legitimacy of that complaint
we can debate forever, but in

731
00:41:09,560 –> 00:41:13,200
this documentary, they kind of
make the same excuse for why

732
00:41:13,200 –> 00:41:15,800
they had to build this massive
radar system.

733
00:41:16,040 –> 00:41:19,440
In their telling of it, it’s
because the US was putting all

734
00:41:19,440 –> 00:41:23,640
this monitoring equipment in
their ally countries around the

735
00:41:23,640 –> 00:41:27,280
Russian border, which who knows
When it comes to the United

736
00:41:27,280 –> 00:41:29,600
States and Russia, I’ll tell you
who I trust the most.

737
00:41:29,760 –> 00:41:31,720
No one.
I don’t know that there’s a

738
00:41:31,720 –> 00:41:35,000
major government in the world
that I would trust whose trust

739
00:41:35,000 –> 00:41:37,440
in governments these days.
Get over yourself.

740
00:41:37,560 –> 00:41:40,520
New Zealand maybe?
Conspiracy theory, Yeah.

741
00:41:40,520 –> 00:41:42,080
New Zealand.
That broad for sure.

742
00:41:42,240 –> 00:41:44,320
Maybe.
Well, that broad stepped down.

743
00:41:44,640 –> 00:41:47,440
Yeah, and.
Or she’s about to step down.

744
00:41:47,800 –> 00:41:51,200
I haven’t googled their take on
asylum seekers and things like

745
00:41:51,200 –> 00:41:54,040
that, so I don’t want to endorse
her on the world stage too

746
00:41:54,040 –> 00:41:55,440
quick, but.
Yeah.

747
00:41:55,720 –> 00:42:00,160
Yeah, who knows if they were
justified in building this to

748
00:42:00,160 –> 00:42:04,400
counteract our spying, maybe.
Do you ever just listen to all

749
00:42:04,400 –> 00:42:07,400
this stuff and be like, man?
At the beginning of humankind,

750
00:42:07,400 –> 00:42:10,840
we could have just been like
hanging out, eating fruit,

751
00:42:10,840 –> 00:42:14,640
drinking wine, playing with
animals and just living and said

752
00:42:14,640 –> 00:42:17,080
we’re like, no, we’re going to
fight over a made-up God.

753
00:42:17,080 –> 00:42:18,640
We’re going to kill each other
and we’re going to.

754
00:42:18,680 –> 00:42:23,320
It’s just all this seems banana
pants to me, you know, like

755
00:42:23,920 –> 00:42:28,200
paranoid and bananas.
But it’s, I guess we have to, I

756
00:42:28,200 –> 00:42:30,600
guess.
And yeah, Fedor asks.

757
00:42:30,600 –> 00:42:34,360
If it was just for like, counter
espionage, then why did we

758
00:42:34,360 –> 00:42:39,440
destroy all the documents
pertaining to the Duga radar?

759
00:42:39,440 –> 00:42:42,600
Meaning why did the Soviet Union
and Russia destroy all the

760
00:42:42,600 –> 00:42:46,560
documents?
And yeah, that is when the guy,

761
00:42:46,560 –> 00:42:50,000
even without being on, like
thinking he’s not on camera, the

762
00:42:50,000 –> 00:42:53,000
guy he’s talking to is like,
you’re asking a very delicate

763
00:42:53,000 –> 00:42:58,800
question right now.
And I think whatever was going

764
00:42:58,800 –> 00:43:03,280
on with the Duga radar is
actually the bigger secret here.

765
00:43:03,400 –> 00:43:07,680
I honestly feel like Chernobyl
just kind of happened and that

766
00:43:07,680 –> 00:43:09,600
that’s not really.
What was an accident?

767
00:43:09,880 –> 00:43:13,600
That’s not really what they’re
covering up, but this radar, I

768
00:43:13,600 –> 00:43:15,320
need to know more about this
fucking radar.

769
00:43:15,440 –> 00:43:17,840
Sounds interesting.
Yeah, you didn’t do more

770
00:43:17,840 –> 00:43:18,960
Googling.
Who?

771
00:43:18,960 –> 00:43:20,400
Me?
Yeah, who else would I be

772
00:43:20,560 –> 00:43:23,800
talking to?
No, I mean, not not yet, but

773
00:43:23,800 –> 00:43:26,520
that’s just because I’m not
trying to attack another 90

774
00:43:26,520 –> 00:43:29,920
minute episode onto this episode
like we would do.

775
00:43:30,400 –> 00:43:33,360
I would talk about the Duke of
Radar in a separate thing, but

776
00:43:33,520 –> 00:43:36,000
we’re already pushing an hour.
I guess that’s true.

777
00:43:36,000 –> 00:43:39,440
All right, go on.
Thank you and.

778
00:43:39,640 –> 00:43:42,720
But he’s like, you’re asking a
delicate question and the door’s

779
00:43:42,720 –> 00:43:46,280
like, I know.
And another official tells him

780
00:43:46,520 –> 00:43:49,920
that the main purpose of the
radar was just to give the

781
00:43:49,920 –> 00:43:54,320
Soviet Union a little more
advanced knowledge if, say, the

782
00:43:54,480 –> 00:43:57,440
US launched a nuclear weapon in
their direction.

783
00:43:57,640 –> 00:44:02,160
The way he described it is
instead of having a couple

784
00:44:02,160 –> 00:44:06,480
minutes to respond to that, they
would have more like 25 minutes,

785
00:44:06,480 –> 00:44:11,840
and that’s enough time to
mobilize a response and send

786
00:44:11,840 –> 00:44:16,240
back nukes of their own.
Which in that case, if that’s

787
00:44:16,240 –> 00:44:20,280
legitimately what it was for, I
wouldn’t blame them at all for

788
00:44:20,600 –> 00:44:26,360
building that.
I would question the validity of

789
00:44:26,360 –> 00:44:31,920
the claims that during the Cold
War, Gorbachev was less of an

790
00:44:31,920 –> 00:44:35,120
aggressor and Reagan was the
voice of reason, because that

791
00:44:35,160 –> 00:44:39,920
argument always centers around
Star Wars, the SDI program that

792
00:44:39,920 –> 00:44:43,320
Reagan wanted to build to shoot
nuclear weapons out of the sky

793
00:44:43,320 –> 00:44:45,640
from space.
Russia’s argument was always,

794
00:44:45,640 –> 00:44:49,120
well, if you have something like
that, then you have way more of

795
00:44:49,120 –> 00:44:52,320
a defense against nuclear
weapons and that puts us at a

796
00:44:52,320 –> 00:44:54,240
disadvantage.
But if they were building this

797
00:44:54,240 –> 00:44:58,400
thing, that puts them at a
pretty decent advantage, so.

798
00:44:58,520 –> 00:45:00,320
Or at least levels the playing
field.

799
00:45:00,360 –> 00:45:04,440
Yeah.
So now I’m just back to Russia

800
00:45:04,440 –> 00:45:07,040
and the United States were both
bad during the Cold War.

801
00:45:07,160 –> 00:45:09,120
Shocking statement, you know,
but.

802
00:45:09,400 –> 00:45:12,200
The sidebar I want you to know
that at least once a week I

803
00:45:12,200 –> 00:45:14,680
think about you saying I want
there to be a hell.

804
00:45:14,680 –> 00:45:18,960
So Ronald Reagan is rotting in
it, Yes, and I laugh very loud.

805
00:45:19,240 –> 00:45:21,360
I stand by.
At least once a week since we

806
00:45:21,360 –> 00:45:23,640
recorded that, yeah.
I stand by it.

807
00:45:23,680 –> 00:45:26,920
But yeah, it’s interesting. the
US is like, maybe it’s us that

808
00:45:26,920 –> 00:45:29,320
depicts it this way of just like
the good guy.

809
00:45:29,440 –> 00:45:34,720
But no, no, if other places are
afraid of us nuking them, it’s

810
00:45:34,720 –> 00:45:37,360
like the stormtrooper meme where
they’re like, how do we know

811
00:45:37,360 –> 00:45:39,080
we’re the bad guy?
It’s like, I don’t know, let’s

812
00:45:39,080 –> 00:45:41,040
go back to the death.
Let’s go back to the ship.

813
00:45:41,280 –> 00:45:44,560
They’re both not good.
And I think a really good

814
00:45:44,560 –> 00:45:49,760
indicator of what a country is
like on the world stage is how

815
00:45:49,760 –> 00:45:52,120
do they treat their people at
home?

816
00:45:52,280 –> 00:45:56,840
And the United States does not
treat their people well.

817
00:45:57,280 –> 00:46:00,600
If you’re rich enough to afford
a good life in the United

818
00:46:00,600 –> 00:46:04,120
States, then you’re treated fine
and things are cool.

819
00:46:04,280 –> 00:46:07,040
But this is a terrible place to
be poor.

820
00:46:07,200 –> 00:46:11,200
That’s for God damn sure.
Or a minority or a marginalized

821
00:46:11,200 –> 00:46:12,680
group.
Yeah, it’s not.

822
00:46:13,120 –> 00:46:16,600
So just imagine us exporting all
of that to the world.

823
00:46:17,000 –> 00:46:19,280
That’s what we are on the world
stage.

824
00:46:19,280 –> 00:46:22,760
We’re just the United States.
And yeah, everyone listening,

825
00:46:22,760 –> 00:46:24,960
you live here.
So you know what we’re like.

826
00:46:25,200 –> 00:46:27,360
And that’s also what we’re like
everywhere else.

827
00:46:27,760 –> 00:46:31,360
So this is where Fedor gets into
his theory.

828
00:46:31,360 –> 00:46:35,600
And this is where I think things
fall apart a little bit because

829
00:46:35,600 –> 00:46:39,320
the short version of the theory,
and I guess it’s just the only

830
00:46:39,320 –> 00:46:44,200
version, is that Russia spent
all these years, like decades,

831
00:46:44,240 –> 00:46:48,760
building this Duga radar.
They turn it on in 1976.

832
00:46:48,920 –> 00:46:51,640
And for years and years and
years, they’re hoping it’s going

833
00:46:51,640 –> 00:46:55,680
to do what it’s supposed to do.
And right around the same time

834
00:46:55,680 –> 00:46:59,680
as the Chernobyl disaster, they
realize that, one, it’s not

835
00:46:59,680 –> 00:47:02,960
going to work.
And two, there is an inspection

836
00:47:03,080 –> 00:47:08,680
coming up in September 1986 that
once that’s done, everyone’s

837
00:47:08,680 –> 00:47:11,480
going to know the Duga radar is
a failure.

838
00:47:11,600 –> 00:47:13,960
So.
And billions of dollars, isn’t

839
00:47:13,960 –> 00:47:15,600
it?
Did they say billions?

840
00:47:15,680 –> 00:47:18,680
Well, they said it was more
expensive than Chernobyl, and I

841
00:47:18,920 –> 00:47:22,280
can’t imagine you can put up a
nuclear facility for less than a

842
00:47:22,280 –> 00:47:24,920
billion dollars.
So yeah, they pumped a lot of

843
00:47:24,920 –> 00:47:28,200
money into this.
And so the theory is that in

844
00:47:28,200 –> 00:47:32,200
order to hide the fact that the
Duga radar was never going to

845
00:47:32,200 –> 00:47:37,640
work, they caused the meltdown
at Chernobyl first to kind of

846
00:47:37,960 –> 00:47:42,280
cover that up and to never have
to face that inspection, which

847
00:47:42,480 –> 00:47:47,480
he does not do a good job of
proving that Fedor himself just

848
00:47:47,480 –> 00:47:51,720
kind of says, well, I got a
hunch and he is just convinced

849
00:47:51,720 –> 00:47:55,560
that his hunch is right.
He even names the guy Soviet

850
00:47:55,600 –> 00:48:00,160
Minister Shamshin, who was the
minister and vice president of

851
00:48:00,160 –> 00:48:02,520
the Soviet Cuban Friendship
Society.

852
00:48:02,520 –> 00:48:05,520
Aw, that sounds fun.
That is a nice name.

853
00:48:05,600 –> 00:48:09,240
Yeah, that’s very cute.
And Shamshin was one of the

854
00:48:09,240 –> 00:48:14,280
early proponents of the Dugo
radar, and he spent a lot of his

855
00:48:14,280 –> 00:48:19,560
professional life working on it.
And because of that, Fedor

856
00:48:19,560 –> 00:48:24,880
thinks he’s the guy who caused
the meltdown at Chernobyl.

857
00:48:25,040 –> 00:48:28,760
And the way he says he caused it
is they had been doing all of

858
00:48:28,760 –> 00:48:33,200
these experiments in the weeks
and months leading up to it that

859
00:48:33,360 –> 00:48:36,320
weren’t going well.
And they were showing that if

860
00:48:36,320 –> 00:48:39,480
you put the system under the
certain amount of strain, it’s

861
00:48:39,480 –> 00:48:42,520
going to blow.
And the allegation here is that

862
00:48:42,520 –> 00:48:46,960
Shamshen made a call to the
Chernobyl facility and told them

863
00:48:46,960 –> 00:48:50,200
to run one more experiment
knowing that it was going to

864
00:48:50,200 –> 00:48:56,040
cause this nuclear reactor to
fail, which in that case, that’s

865
00:48:56,040 –> 00:49:01,680
when I would ask Fedor not if he
was a nuclear scientist, but was

866
00:49:01,680 –> 00:49:05,680
Shamshin a nuclear scientist?
Cause how would he know that

867
00:49:05,680 –> 00:49:09,200
this is going to make Chernobyl
fail unless he had?

868
00:49:09,240 –> 00:49:12,320
Like an engine.
Scientist in his ear telling him

869
00:49:12,320 –> 00:49:14,960
but no, he was like a diplomat.
He wasn’t.

870
00:49:15,280 –> 00:49:18,840
A scientist, he wasn’t anything.
So that part also.

871
00:49:19,040 –> 00:49:22,440
Theor didn’t really offer any
other except for this guy

872
00:49:22,440 –> 00:49:23,880
probably did it.
Right.

873
00:49:24,080 –> 00:49:28,080
And they here’s my theory.
I do like the part where he

874
00:49:28,080 –> 00:49:32,680
interviews two different people,
and one of them is the person

875
00:49:32,680 –> 00:49:36,120
who is alleged to have taken
this phone call and put the

876
00:49:36,120 –> 00:49:38,840
experiment in place.
And the other guy they’re

877
00:49:38,840 –> 00:49:41,280
interviewing is the person
accusing him of that.

878
00:49:41,640 –> 00:49:44,120
And they keep cutting back and
forth.

879
00:49:44,160 –> 00:49:47,080
And the guy who’s accused of it
is like, I don’t know.

880
00:49:47,080 –> 00:49:50,120
I don’t know anything.
And then someone brings up the

881
00:49:50,120 –> 00:49:56,160
name Vasili Shamshin.
And the guy’s like, I don’t even

882
00:49:56,160 –> 00:49:57,480
know him.
Is he real?

883
00:49:57,520 –> 00:50:00,520
Is that a real guy?
And that’s when Fedor is like,

884
00:50:00,520 –> 00:50:02,720
he’s lying.
He fucking knows.

885
00:50:02,920 –> 00:50:06,160
And the problem is, that’s all
the evidence we really get.

886
00:50:06,640 –> 00:50:09,720
Yes, we get to see this guy
answer questions about whether

887
00:50:09,720 –> 00:50:12,600
he got a phone call from the
silly Shamshin, and he looks

888
00:50:12,600 –> 00:50:14,520
uncomfortable asking those
questions.

889
00:50:14,680 –> 00:50:16,920
But it could also just be that
he’s tired of being asked that

890
00:50:16,920 –> 00:50:19,480
question.
It also could go back to the

891
00:50:19,480 –> 00:50:23,160
original theory of Fedora’s
probably scratching the surface

892
00:50:23,160 –> 00:50:24,680
of something.
He’s just not scratching the

893
00:50:24,680 –> 00:50:28,000
surface of the correct like he’s
going down a path.

894
00:50:28,000 –> 00:50:31,400
But it also could be this guy’s
like, there’s some questions.

895
00:50:31,600 –> 00:50:34,760
And that all happens with like
25 minutes left.

896
00:50:35,040 –> 00:50:38,520
And I was like, all right, now
here comes all the really solid

897
00:50:38,840 –> 00:50:42,240
evidence, proof.
But no, not really.

898
00:50:42,240 –> 00:50:44,360
There’s just a bunch of
interviews from people warning

899
00:50:44,360 –> 00:50:47,840
Fedor to not be a troublemaker
because that’s a good way to get

900
00:50:47,840 –> 00:50:50,240
yourself killed by the
government of Russia.

901
00:50:50,440 –> 00:50:53,520
And that includes a voicemail
from his own kid.

902
00:50:53,680 –> 00:50:57,920
That’s literally like, Papa,
please don’t go to Moscow.

903
00:50:58,160 –> 00:51:00,440
I’m worried about you.
I don’t know why his kid has a

904
00:51:00,440 –> 00:51:03,120
British accent, but that’s.
Yeah, I, you know, I thought

905
00:51:03,120 –> 00:51:04,800
that was a solid attempt at a
Russian.

906
00:51:04,960 –> 00:51:09,240
PP Eyes, Russian eyes.
Eyes from Ukraine.

907
00:51:11,680 –> 00:51:15,880
Well, I also, while watching
this, as much as America isn’t

908
00:51:15,880 –> 00:51:19,360
the greatest, there also isn’t
ever.

909
00:51:19,800 –> 00:51:24,120
Maybe maybe I’m naive, but I’m
like, God, I don’t know of a

910
00:51:24,120 –> 00:51:26,240
person that would just
disappear.

911
00:51:26,480 –> 00:51:28,080
You know what I mean?
They’re like, we’ll just kill

912
00:51:28,080 –> 00:51:29,720
him and he’ll be gone and
everyone’s mourning.

913
00:51:29,720 –> 00:51:33,600
I’m like you’re, you know?
Yeah, it’s.

914
00:51:33,600 –> 00:51:36,320
Yeah, as I’m talking, I’m like,
maybe I’m not digging deep

915
00:51:36,320 –> 00:51:38,200
enough.
Yeah, And especially if you get

916
00:51:38,360 –> 00:51:43,040
like into the 60s in the civil
rights movement, the entire top

917
00:51:43,040 –> 00:51:47,240
level of the progressive wing of
the United States got murdered

918
00:51:47,320 –> 00:51:50,240
in the 1960s.
And we’re supposed to just be

919
00:51:50,240 –> 00:51:52,600
like, no, the government didn’t
do that.

920
00:51:52,800 –> 00:51:53,600
Wait.
What?

921
00:51:54,000 –> 00:51:56,320
JFKRFK.
Malcolm X.

922
00:51:56,640 –> 00:51:59,720
Oh, OK, junior Fred, hampering
like a level.

923
00:51:59,720 –> 00:52:04,560
Like everyone who had any
interest in civil rights got

924
00:52:04,720 –> 00:52:09,080
executed in the 60s and we to
this day are supposed to be like

925
00:52:09,080 –> 00:52:10,560
now.
The government didn’t do that.

926
00:52:10,840 –> 00:52:12,160
They had nothing to do with
that.

927
00:52:12,200 –> 00:52:13,840
Of course the government did
that.

928
00:52:13,960 –> 00:52:16,760
Don’t be stupid.
Who do you think killed JFK?

929
00:52:16,760 –> 00:52:20,560
I’ve done extensive research on
this and there’s a lot of wild.

930
00:52:20,960 –> 00:52:25,720
I think Lee Harvey Oswald was
there and was shooting, but I

931
00:52:25,720 –> 00:52:29,440
think the shot that killed JFK
was fired accidentally by the

932
00:52:29,440 –> 00:52:32,320
Secret Service from.
The that’s that’s probably the

933
00:52:32,360 –> 00:52:36,240
most accurate one I’ve heard.
What I love about that theory is

934
00:52:36,240 –> 00:52:40,320
it makes everyone right.
Like everyone who says that Lee

935
00:52:40,320 –> 00:52:44,320
Harvey Oswald was the lone
gunman is technically correct.

936
00:52:44,520 –> 00:52:47,640
And all the people who say the
government did it and that

937
00:52:47,640 –> 00:52:50,800
there’s a cover up involved,
they are technically correct.

938
00:52:51,120 –> 00:52:55,480
It’s just everyone’s wrong about
how those two things happened.

939
00:52:55,680 –> 00:52:59,440
And I like the credentials of
the guy who came up with that

940
00:52:59,440 –> 00:53:01,720
theory.
He’s a Ballistics expert.

941
00:53:02,000 –> 00:53:06,000
He’s the one person who was able
to fire the three shots

942
00:53:06,200 –> 00:53:09,200
accurately that Oswald is
alleged to have fired.

943
00:53:09,520 –> 00:53:14,160
Because CBS did a recreation of
the JFK assassination a few

944
00:53:14,160 –> 00:53:17,320
years after it happened.
And they brought in all these

945
00:53:17,320 –> 00:53:20,840
different experts to try and
actually fire those three shots

946
00:53:20,840 –> 00:53:23,320
that Lee Harvey Oswald was able
to fire.

947
00:53:23,440 –> 00:53:27,840
And the one guy who did it was
also like, that was so hard for

948
00:53:27,840 –> 00:53:30,280
me.
There’s no way Lee Harvey Oswald

949
00:53:30,400 –> 00:53:33,960
called was able to do it.
And his theory?

950
00:53:34,040 –> 00:53:36,920
There’s a documentary about it
on Netflix called JFK The

951
00:53:36,920 –> 00:53:38,840
Smoking Gun.
It’s really good.

952
00:53:39,200 –> 00:53:40,440
I’ll watch it.
I believe it.

953
00:53:40,640 –> 00:53:43,600
It’s a good theory, so.
OK, the US government does kill

954
00:53:43,600 –> 00:53:45,360
people.
I forgot about JFK, Martin

955
00:53:45,360 –> 00:53:49,000
Luther King, all kinds of yeah.
Yeah, I mean, there’s, there’s

956
00:53:49,000 –> 00:53:51,400
lots of people.
Yeah, go on.

957
00:53:51,440 –> 00:53:53,840
You’re right.
I I forgot about the major

958
00:53:54,080 –> 00:53:56,000
assassinations that are in
history.

959
00:53:56,880 –> 00:53:58,960
Yeah, the US government,
they’re, they have it in them,

960
00:53:59,160 –> 00:54:02,760
like obviously anyway, so.
You’re a genius.

961
00:54:04,760 –> 00:54:09,040
So, yeah, he gets people are
warning him not to go to Moscow.

962
00:54:09,240 –> 00:54:12,520
And Fedor’s friend Artem, who is
like the cinematographer on

963
00:54:12,520 –> 00:54:14,400
this, they’ve been interviewing
him throughout.

964
00:54:14,560 –> 00:54:19,360
He gets a call from Fedor and
Fedor’s like, come over, don’t

965
00:54:19,360 –> 00:54:21,760
bring any cameras.
So of course his friend shows

966
00:54:21,760 –> 00:54:23,320
up.
Of course a hidden camera.

967
00:54:24,560 –> 00:54:26,600
What a great Why would he
believe him?

968
00:54:26,600 –> 00:54:29,000
Why wouldn’t he pat him down?
They’ve been doing this to

969
00:54:29,000 –> 00:54:31,000
everyone.
What a great.

970
00:54:31,000 –> 00:54:32,840
Friend.
That was hilarious, by the way,

971
00:54:32,840 –> 00:54:36,840
when it happened.
Yeah, and Fedor explains that he

972
00:54:36,840 –> 00:54:41,800
has been visited by the KGB,
which I think is called the FSB

973
00:54:41,960 –> 00:54:45,920
now, but people still just refer
to it, like how people still

974
00:54:45,920 –> 00:54:49,200
call them UFOs when we’ve
changed the name to UAPS.

975
00:54:49,800 –> 00:54:51,280
But.
I did not know that.

976
00:54:51,440 –> 00:54:55,800
Yeah, He says he’s been visited
by the KGB in that one.

977
00:54:55,920 –> 00:55:00,640
They told him he has to put that
disclaimer from the beginning of

978
00:55:00,640 –> 00:55:04,800
the documentary in his film.
And again, that disclaimer, the

979
00:55:04,880 –> 00:55:08,680
authors of this film in no way
intend to injure relations

980
00:55:08,680 –> 00:55:13,960
between Ukraine, Belarus and
Russia, which what I can’t get a

981
00:55:13,960 –> 00:55:17,840
handle on.
Like, he’s clearly spooked by

982
00:55:17,840 –> 00:55:21,960
this interaction that he had
with the KGB to the point that

983
00:55:21,960 –> 00:55:24,280
he wants to stop making the
film.

984
00:55:24,400 –> 00:55:27,640
But also is that it?
Did they just show up and say,

985
00:55:27,640 –> 00:55:31,000
hey, we tag a disclaimer under
the beginning of your movie

986
00:55:31,160 –> 00:55:35,280
because it’s so cool if I made a
documentary like this.

987
00:55:35,280 –> 00:55:38,920
And that is as hard as the
government cracked down.

988
00:55:39,360 –> 00:55:42,280
I’d be like, thank you, that’s
very fair of you.

989
00:55:42,280 –> 00:55:45,080
Sure, I will put.
Yeah, put that disclaimer.

990
00:55:45,120 –> 00:55:47,320
Yeah, no big deal.
But I don’t did they like beat

991
00:55:47,320 –> 00:55:50,840
him with a rubber hose?
Also like he comes away from it

992
00:55:51,440 –> 00:55:54,960
way more scared than I think I
would be if they were just like,

993
00:55:54,960 –> 00:55:56,960
hey, we need you to add a
disclaimer.

994
00:55:57,440 –> 00:56:00,520
And also, he’s a ballsy dude,
you know what I mean?

995
00:56:00,520 –> 00:56:02,800
Like, he’s, like, hanging out in
radioactive water.

996
00:56:02,800 –> 00:56:05,680
He’s climbing shit.
Like, he’s not, like, easily

997
00:56:05,680 –> 00:56:07,120
rattled.
Yeah.

998
00:56:07,320 –> 00:56:09,560
So it is like, something
probably more happened.

999
00:56:09,560 –> 00:56:13,400
But then maybe he didn’t say all
the stuff that happened because

1000
00:56:13,400 –> 00:56:15,920
maybe he was aware that his
friend was probably secretly

1001
00:56:15,920 –> 00:56:18,440
recording him because that’s
what he’s been doing to

1002
00:56:18,440 –> 00:56:19,600
everybody else, You know what I
mean?

1003
00:56:19,600 –> 00:56:23,760
Like maybe, yeah.
And my thought also, not to

1004
00:56:23,760 –> 00:56:27,480
victim blame, but my thought
was, well, what did you think

1005
00:56:27,480 –> 00:56:30,520
was going to happen when you
embarked upon making a

1006
00:56:30,520 –> 00:56:35,520
documentary about how the
Russian government did Chernobyl

1007
00:56:35,520 –> 00:56:39,680
on purpose like.
One of the scariest, like openly

1008
00:56:39,680 –> 00:56:41,520
scariest governments in the
world.

1009
00:56:41,760 –> 00:56:44,360
They’re scary, but we’re like
flower.

1010
00:56:44,360 –> 00:56:47,360
They’re openly.
Well, yeah, they will travel to

1011
00:56:47,360 –> 00:56:49,800
other parts of Europe to murder
dissidents.

1012
00:56:49,920 –> 00:56:52,800
Like they will poison a
motherfucker in London if they

1013
00:56:52,800 –> 00:56:54,680
have to.
You think they’re not gonna come

1014
00:56:54,680 –> 00:56:56,920
to Ukraine and ask you some
questions?

1015
00:56:57,240 –> 00:57:02,080
It blew my mind that he was as
rattled by this as he was.

1016
00:57:02,280 –> 00:57:05,720
Yeah, but and you’re asking all
these like people involved,

1017
00:57:05,720 –> 00:57:08,160
you’re asking loads of yeah, I
guess I didn’t think about that

1018
00:57:08,160 –> 00:57:10,720
either.
Yeah, and he’s also talking to

1019
00:57:10,800 –> 00:57:15,080
people with ties to the people
who would have done this if what

1020
00:57:15,080 –> 00:57:17,480
he’s saying is true.
So they’re gonna report and.

1021
00:57:17,800 –> 00:57:20,720
Secretly recording them.
Yeah, and.

1022
00:57:21,520 –> 00:57:25,000
Yeah.
So he ends up just fleeing

1023
00:57:25,200 –> 00:57:29,600
Ukraine, and his argument is,
well, clearly the Soviet Union

1024
00:57:29,600 –> 00:57:31,760
system is back.
That’s what I’m living under

1025
00:57:31,760 –> 00:57:33,840
now.
So now I’m a dissident and I got

1026
00:57:33,840 –> 00:57:35,600
to get out of here.
But then there’s all these

1027
00:57:35,600 –> 00:57:40,840
protests in 2014, the maiden
protests, and that inspires him

1028
00:57:41,160 –> 00:57:46,680
to return to the country.
We find out that Artem, the

1029
00:57:46,680 –> 00:57:50,040
cinematographer, he disappeared
for a while and it was because

1030
00:57:50,040 –> 00:57:54,200
the police shot him for trying
to film their faces.

1031
00:57:54,520 –> 00:57:58,080
Like you even you see the
footage of it, you see the cop

1032
00:57:58,200 –> 00:58:02,040
hold the gun up to shoot at him.
And his interview afterwards was

1033
00:58:02,040 –> 00:58:03,760
so.
Yeah, he was shook.

1034
00:58:04,040 –> 00:58:08,920
And it’s funny because one of
the things I left out about

1035
00:58:08,960 –> 00:58:13,280
Artem and Fedor is after Fedor
gets spooked by the KGB and

1036
00:58:13,280 –> 00:58:16,720
decides to leave the country,
Artem calls him a coward in a

1037
00:58:16,720 –> 00:58:20,400
sellout for leaving.
And it’s like this dude has a

1038
00:58:20,400 –> 00:58:24,400
family, He’s got kids, He’s got
a child who called and said,

1039
00:58:24,400 –> 00:58:28,960
Papa, please don’t go to Moscow.
Papa, please fancy his.

1040
00:58:28,960 –> 00:58:32,560
Make more.
More porridge, Sir, I can’t do

1041
00:58:32,560 –> 00:58:34,360
it for attack.
Then going to Moscow in it.

1042
00:58:34,920 –> 00:58:40,120
And so this all kind of pays off
in what I would argue is a

1043
00:58:40,440 –> 00:58:44,360
pretty awkward scene.
Fedor returns to the country

1044
00:58:44,480 –> 00:58:49,480
during these protests and he
very heroically gives a speech

1045
00:58:49,680 –> 00:58:53,560
at one of these protests.
And I say that’s heroic because

1046
00:58:53,600 –> 00:58:57,560
at that point the country had
put emergency laws in place that

1047
00:58:57,560 –> 00:59:00,520
made speaking at a protest like
this a crime.

1048
00:59:00,680 –> 00:59:04,480
But then he gets up there and
he’s talking all this pro

1049
00:59:04,480 –> 00:59:10,680
Ukraine stuff and then he’s, and
I’m paraphrasing, he goes also

1050
00:59:10,880 –> 00:59:16,160
Russia did Chernobyl on purpose
and it’s got a lot of 9/11

1051
00:59:16,160 –> 00:59:20,960
truther energy to it where the
crowd is just like, oh, oh,

1052
00:59:20,960 –> 00:59:22,880
you’re going to take this turn,
huh?

1053
00:59:23,200 –> 00:59:26,400
We’ll OK, we’ll listen.
And then at the end he’s gets

1054
00:59:26,400 –> 00:59:28,640
back into pro Ukraine mode and
they cheer.

1055
00:59:28,640 –> 00:59:32,320
But the part where he’s going on
at length about his Chernobyl

1056
00:59:32,320 –> 00:59:34,760
theory, it feels like he’s
bombing.

1057
00:59:35,400 –> 00:59:38,200
I don’t think the crowd was into
that at all.

1058
00:59:38,360 –> 00:59:40,680
It’s like you make friends with
someone at the bar and they’re

1059
00:59:40,680 –> 00:59:43,240
sitting next to you and you’re
like on the same page, on the

1060
00:59:43,240 –> 00:59:44,920
same page.
Like Oh my God, did I just make

1061
00:59:44,920 –> 00:59:46,680
a new friend?
And then they completely flip

1062
00:59:46,680 –> 00:59:49,120
out at the bartender and do
something to our and you’re

1063
00:59:49,120 –> 00:59:52,040
like, Oh no, yeah, I’m not into
this.

1064
00:59:52,240 –> 00:59:55,360
I’m not.
A few years ago I was at a bar

1065
00:59:55,360 –> 00:59:59,960
in Madison, actually no
Janesville, WI, and I was just

1066
00:59:59,960 –> 01:00:02,040
sitting there having beers
because I was bored and I was

1067
01:00:02,040 –> 01:00:03,480
chit chatting with the
bartender.

1068
01:00:03,680 –> 01:00:06,520
He seemed like a cool dude.
We were talking about sports, we

1069
01:00:06,520 –> 01:00:10,480
were talking about music, and
then all of a sudden he goes all

1070
01:00:10,480 –> 01:00:13,120
this stuff in Ferguson, MO is
crazy, huh?

1071
01:00:13,520 –> 01:00:15,520
And I was like, yeah, man, it
really is.

1072
01:00:15,880 –> 01:00:18,760
And he goes, that guy shouldn’t
have charged that cop that way.

1073
01:00:18,760 –> 01:00:22,400
I was like, Oh no.
God damn it.

1074
01:00:22,400 –> 01:00:24,480
And then you’re like, I got a
phone call that’s.

1075
01:00:24,800 –> 01:00:28,680
Like now we have to talk about
this, you monster.

1076
01:00:28,840 –> 01:00:31,240
Yeah, that’s the vibe it got
where everyone’s like, yeah,

1077
01:00:31,240 –> 01:00:32,720
yeah.
Oh, we.

1078
01:00:33,200 –> 01:00:36,000
Oh, no.
Bad times.

1079
01:00:36,000 –> 01:00:39,040
Yeah, it really.
I did get that sense that the

1080
01:00:39,040 –> 01:00:42,120
crowd was like, what?
And why are you bringing this up

1081
01:00:42,120 –> 01:00:44,080
now?
Yeah, that it is.

1082
01:00:44,080 –> 01:00:46,440
Like at a protest, you’re
yelling something and then out

1083
01:00:46,440 –> 01:00:49,000
of nowhere you’re like, JFK was
an inside job.

1084
01:00:49,000 –> 01:00:51,200
And it’s like, well, it’s 2023
like.

1085
01:00:51,640 –> 01:00:55,520
Yeah, and that’s kind of the end
of the documentary.

1086
01:00:55,520 –> 01:00:58,880
There’s more after that, but I
mean, obviously there’s no

1087
01:00:59,080 –> 01:01:01,640
resolution.
Like he doesn’t bring Russia to

1088
01:01:01,640 –> 01:01:03,240
justice for chairman.
Yeah.

1089
01:01:03,240 –> 01:01:06,320
I was hoping there’d be some
kind of, well, I learned a

1090
01:01:06,320 –> 01:01:09,160
valuable lesson or this is, you
know, But instead it was like,

1091
01:01:09,560 –> 01:01:10,440
all right.
Yeah.

1092
01:01:10,800 –> 01:01:13,040
I mean, at the end we hear that
the woodpecker signal has

1093
01:01:13,040 –> 01:01:15,960
returned, which I googled that.
I didn’t.

1094
01:01:16,200 –> 01:01:19,680
I didn’t see a ton about that.
And also we wouldn’t know

1095
01:01:19,680 –> 01:01:22,440
because of the Northern Lights.
We didn’t hear it because of the

1096
01:01:22,440 –> 01:01:24,680
Northern Lights, right?
the US didn’t hear the

1097
01:01:24,680 –> 01:01:26,960
woodpecker or did they?
That part was unclear for me.

1098
01:01:27,000 –> 01:01:30,880
I think the US heard some of it,
but it just didn’t.

1099
01:01:31,360 –> 01:01:32,920
It didn’t do what it was
supposed to do.

1100
01:01:32,920 –> 01:01:35,000
Like maybe Russia couldn’t hear
anything back.

1101
01:01:35,360 –> 01:01:38,920
Okay.
How does that like you’re just

1102
01:01:38,920 –> 01:01:42,520
hearing the entirety of the US
talking all at the same time?

1103
01:01:42,800 –> 01:01:43,760
Like what?
What?

1104
01:01:43,960 –> 01:01:45,600
I don’t know.
I don’t know how it works.

1105
01:01:46,840 –> 01:01:49,080
Yeah.
Then how do you specifically go

1106
01:01:49,080 –> 01:01:52,480
in and it’s like every mind
readers movie ever.

1107
01:01:52,480 –> 01:01:55,360
You end up going crazy because
you can hear all the minds.

1108
01:01:55,640 –> 01:01:58,640
It’s Bruce Almighty when Jim
Carrey starts hearing all of the

1109
01:01:58,640 –> 01:02:00,840
prayers in his head at once,
Same thing.

1110
01:02:01,040 –> 01:02:03,960
I was going to say Buffy the
Vampire Slayer earshot season 3

1111
01:02:03,960 –> 01:02:04,440
but OK.
Oh.

1112
01:02:04,800 –> 01:02:08,720
OK, I’ve never seen that show,
but I trust the reference.

1113
01:02:08,920 –> 01:02:11,640
You’ve never seen Buffy.
I have not, no.

1114
01:02:11,840 –> 01:02:13,640
We’ll go on this tangent another
day.

1115
01:02:14,280 –> 01:02:18,040
All right, until then, I feel
like we have made it to the end

1116
01:02:18,040 –> 01:02:20,400
of the episode.
This episode is approximately as

1117
01:02:20,400 –> 01:02:23,440
long as the documentary.
Oh yeah, but we were more

1118
01:02:23,440 –> 01:02:26,080
interesting, I feel like.
I think you should listen to

1119
01:02:26,080 –> 01:02:29,360
this instead of yeah, unless you
want to see that fantastic head

1120
01:02:29,360 –> 01:02:32,800
of hair of his.
It does inspire me to want to

1121
01:02:32,920 –> 01:02:37,040
maybe do a more fleshed out
episode about the Duga radar at

1122
01:02:37,040 –> 01:02:37,520
some.
Point.

1123
01:02:37,520 –> 01:02:40,320
I knew nothing of that.
I’ve never heard of that.

1124
01:02:40,560 –> 01:02:43,080
In the yeah, the Russian
woodpecker, that’s interesting.

1125
01:02:43,080 –> 01:02:46,480
I’ll look into that more.
But yeah, this is really, at its

1126
01:02:46,480 –> 01:02:51,000
core a documentary about a guy’s
hunch that he doesn’t really

1127
01:02:51,160 –> 01:02:54,760
take the time to flesh out that
much, but probably because he

1128
01:02:54,760 –> 01:02:58,440
can’t like the information.
It sounds like a lot of it was

1129
01:02:58,440 –> 01:03:01,800
just destroyed so.
That’s what I’m wondering too.

1130
01:03:01,800 –> 01:03:04,800
Like how much of it was he not
able to even put in the

1131
01:03:04,800 –> 01:03:06,120
documentary?
You know what I mean?

1132
01:03:06,120 –> 01:03:07,480
All that was put in the
document.

1133
01:03:07,480 –> 01:03:10,440
Like more could have happened in
that meeting than just saying

1134
01:03:10,440 –> 01:03:13,880
put this disclaimer, but they
could have been like take XY and

1135
01:03:13,880 –> 01:03:16,000
Z out and then if you put your
disclaimer, blamer, we won’t

1136
01:03:16,000 –> 01:03:18,000
kill you and and tank your
little movie.

1137
01:03:18,320 –> 01:03:24,840
Which even then, that seems like
a little less harsh than what we

1138
01:03:25,040 –> 01:03:28,880
know about the KGB or what we’ve
been told about the KGB.

1139
01:03:29,040 –> 01:03:31,360
Yeah, they don’t really ask
questions, Yeah.

1140
01:03:31,360 –> 01:03:33,640
Or give warnings.
They just.

1141
01:03:33,800 –> 01:03:36,120
But I don’t know.
Where is now?

1142
01:03:36,120 –> 01:03:38,560
Do we know?
Where is Fedor now?

1143
01:03:38,760 –> 01:03:43,000
Yeah, Is he alive and happy?
Fedor Alexandrovich.

1144
01:03:43,520 –> 01:03:47,000
Yeah, where is that guy now?
Is he alive?

1145
01:03:47,200 –> 01:03:51,200
Conspiracy or insanity?
I mean, it seems like he’s still

1146
01:03:51,200 –> 01:03:52,600
alive.
That’s good.

1147
01:03:52,800 –> 01:03:56,920
There’s no articles about him
turning up dead anywhere.

1148
01:03:57,080 –> 01:03:58,080
But would you?
Yeah.

1149
01:03:58,280 –> 01:04:01,360
All right, Fedor.
Fedor, Fedor, Fedor.

1150
01:04:01,520 –> 01:04:03,800
Yeah, it looks like he’s fine.
Well, that’s good.

1151
01:04:03,800 –> 01:04:07,040
So he listened to the KGB, his
little movie got made and.

1152
01:04:07,120 –> 01:04:10,520
Yeah, and now things are fine in
Ukraine.

1153
01:04:10,680 –> 01:04:13,480
Everything’s fine.
Russia’s great everything is.

1154
01:04:13,880 –> 01:04:16,320
Nailed it.
The documentary worked, Yeah.

1155
01:04:16,520 –> 01:04:19,360
So yeah, that’s our episode.
We did it.

1156
01:04:19,680 –> 01:04:20,280
We.
Did it.

1157
01:04:20,600 –> 01:04:22,720
Thanks for having me.
Thank you so much for watching

1158
01:04:22,720 –> 01:04:25,320
this documentary and doing this
episode.

1159
01:04:25,520 –> 01:04:27,680
I appreciate it.
Do you have anything to plug

1160
01:04:27,680 –> 01:04:30,280
before we get out of here?
It feels weird to plug my

1161
01:04:30,280 –> 01:04:35,200
regular stuff but sure.
I am Kim Krall KYMKRAL.

1162
01:04:35,200 –> 01:04:38,320
Follow me on all the socials.
I have a podcast once a week

1163
01:04:38,320 –> 01:04:44,120
called Crawlspace KRAL Space and
then I wrote a book called

1164
01:04:44,120 –> 01:04:46,720
Confessions of a Recovering
Party Girl and I’m currently

1165
01:04:46,720 –> 01:04:49,120
recording the audio and I want
to throw my head through a

1166
01:04:49,120 –> 01:04:50,960
window but it should be out in a
few weeks.

1167
01:04:51,120 –> 01:04:53,280
Yeah, that seems like it would
be a nightmare.

1168
01:04:53,400 –> 01:04:55,480
And that’s it.
Let’s get out of here.

1169
01:04:55,480 –> 01:04:57,720
Kim say goodbye.
Goodbye.

1170
01:04:57,960 –> 01:04:59,280
Goodbye everybody.
We love you people of.

1171
01:05:04,440 –> 01:05:06,520
Earth, your planet is house to
be.

1172
01:05:06,720 –> 01:05:07,000
Destroyed.