Conspiracy! The Show 349: The Texas Flood Conspiracies

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I.
Hey everybody, welcome to

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Conspiracy the Show.
I’m your host Adam Todd Brown,

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joining me as Co host Connor
Mcspaddens here.

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How’s it going, man?
It’s going good.

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Hell yeah.
Was just thinking of my opening

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joke but it’s too.
It’s too long and convoluted

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now.
Oh yeah.

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Well, you know, there’s been
some flooding in Texas.

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I guess a bunch of ladies saw
Bruno Mars bust out some of

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those dance moves.
Right.

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Is he from Texas that.
That is the wettest I’ve ever

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seen any woman or surface or
anything is when I was working

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on an award show and I was
watching Bruno Bruno Mars

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rehearse and he was like
bringing like different chicks

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that worked on the show.
And she’s like, I’m I this part

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I need to like slow dance on a
woman.

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So I need some and you’ve never
I was like it.

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It was the humidity and the air
increased.

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There was so much moisture.
It was.

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So yeah, it’s my opening pussy
joke.

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I can see him have that kind of
presence.

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I was wet and I’m I, I don’t
even have a pussy and I’m not

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gay.
So that was that was 2

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accomplishments really that’s.
How you know, That’s how you

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know.
So, yeah, we’re talking about

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the conspiracy theories that
have popped up around the

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massive floods that just hit the
state of Texas.

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This is pretty much par for the
course.

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Now.
If there’s natural disaster,

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right wingers are going to say
Democrats did it.

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Yeah.
It’s really like a good playbook

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when you think about it, ’cause
like, you get to just brand

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every bad thing that was going
to happen anyway.

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Yeah.
So to a degree to which you’ve

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probably like voted, voted
against helping in any capacity,

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Yeah.
And then you just say it’s the

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other side.
It’s, it’s, I mean, it’s stupid

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and evil, but it’s, that’s
pretty smart.

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It fucking works with their
base, holy shit.

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Vote.
I would vote against hurricanes.

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Would it?
Who would vote for that?

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Exactly.
Yeah, These floods, they

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happened in July of 2025 in the
Hill Country region of Texas.

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Which seems like a strange place
for a flood.

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Yeah, sounds ominous too.
Hill Country.

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I don’t like it.
Yeah, hills have eyes, you know,

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going up the hill.
Country.

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Anytime something’s called
country and it’s not a country,

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it’s a little bit alarming.
Unless it’s like welcome to

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bacon country.
But if you told me or if, well,

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I’ll do.
I did one time when I walked

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into the Mall of America the
first time, there’s a big neon

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advertisement that said welcome
to do country.

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And I’ve never felt more like I
lived in a fascist state.

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Like I was like fuck, I love Big
Brother and I want to fucking

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drink Mountain Dew.
What did you think of the Mall

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of America?
I thought the, I don’t know, I

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thought it was too big in the
comedy clubs tank like I did.

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Ontario Mills is the superior
mega mall.

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OK, I’m from the Inland Empire,
son.

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I got to rub my own fucking
fascist mega mall.

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But if you, if you’re if you’re
going to tell me anywhere I

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could be during flooding season
in Texas and you told me there’s

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a place called Hill Country.
I thought they’d be immune.

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These must not be some very
impressive hills.

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You’d think they would be safe
in Hill Country.

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There were 130, 85 fatalities
with 117 of them happening in

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Kerr County.
That will be important.

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Caused by a quote Mesoscale
convective vortex with enhanced

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tropical moisture from the
remnants of Tropical Storm

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Berry, a short lived Atlantic
tropical cyclone and remnant

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tropical moisture from the
Eastern Pacific.

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End Quote.
I don’t think I need to tell

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anyone what that means.
We’re all meteorologists here.

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Well.
I heard about Tropical Storm

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Berry, which is like an oddly
kind of fun loving name for a

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guy to be, you know, I guess we
already did a shrub, but a

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serial killer named Barry.
But I feel like a hurricane

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should be a fucking Mike or a
fucking Larry or some mean old

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man.
You know Barry, everybody likes

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Barry.
Yeah, it’d be fun if that was a

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tie in with the show, like just
there was a new season coming,

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so let’s name.
Myself special edition 711 cups

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and the hurricane yeah the.
Flooding began the morning of

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July 4th, so not very patriotic
of it after significant rainfall

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across.
Central Texas Democrats, Adam,

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you know what I’m saying?
Exactly trying to ruin the 4th

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of July.
There were six flash flood

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emergencies issued that day
alone.

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Over the course of a few hours,
the Hill Country region was hit

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with the equivalent of 4 months
of rainfall.

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That’s nuts, but also how much
rainfall does Texas usually get?

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Yeah, that is a pretty fire way
to measure rainfall though.

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Like in in units of time.
Yeah, like he’s got 6 light

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years of Dick.
Oh my God, that’s this Dick is

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spins galaxies.
So much Dick.

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The Guadalupe River rose by 26
feet in just 45 minutes.

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That’s pretty fucking wild.
That’s pretty, unless it’s a

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very small river.
That’s pretty crazy, yeah.

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Tragically, an all girls camp
was in operation along the

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Guadalupe river.
Camp Mystic was hosting 750

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campers when the floods
happened.

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The camp close to the Guadalupe
River was heavily damaged to the

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point of being described as
completely in ruin. 27 campers

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and counselors from Mystic are
confirmed to have died in the

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flooding as of July 9th, Another
six are still missing.

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I cannot find any updates a
month later as to whether those

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six were found, but let’s hope
so.

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Not in Nancy Grace’s America,
Really.

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Where?
You would think the.

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What happened to the Guadalupe
Six guys?

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Now I’m invested.
Are they having some kind of

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yellow jackets type adventure in
the wood?

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The wood?
I hope so.

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You a Yellow Jackets fan?
I just know enough to make that

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reference and that’s it.
It’s a good show, I just binged

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it.
This part is especially sad.

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The building hit the hardest.
It can’t.

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Mystic for one was called Bubble
in which that’s a little on the

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nose and it also house the
youngest campers.

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And everyone at the Bubble Inn
died.

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Wow.
And things were not any better

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at Squirrels Village next door.
Geez.

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Yeah, junior campers in general
got it the worst because at Camp

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Mystic their cabins were in an
area of the camp known as the

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Flats because it was on low
lying flat land near the

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Guadalupe River.
I just want to state in no, in

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no uncertain terms, politically
I am against this.

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Yes, I don’t think Democrats
should have done this.

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No.
And I’ve I would.

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I certainly didn’t.
I voted for Marianne Williamson

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so.
Yeah, I did not vote for

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flooding along the Guadalupe
River, thank you very much.

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Yeah, that wasn’t one of her
policies.

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God damn it.
And so, of course, as with any

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other natural disaster, the
right wingers swung into action,

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blaming this on Democrats and
their penchant for controlling

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the weather.
This time it feels a little

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different though.
A lot of the focus was on one

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california-based company in
particular.

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And the company in question, two
days before the flooding,

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dispersed about 70 grams of
silver iodide into a cloud over

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the state of Texas, with the
goal being to make it rain.

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It’s called cloud seeding.
It’s been around for a long

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time.
Name of the company?

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Rainmaker.
I’m just going to say I

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understand why people are like,
hey, you know how we got

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unprecedented rain?
What if it was the Rainmaker

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company that showed up two days
earlier?

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What if they had anything to do
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Yeah, it’s certainly it, it, it
might not really be connected,

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but it’s definitely a straight
line, you know?

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It’s.
At least in this case, I don’t

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blame people for being like, was
it that?

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Looks like if it was called
floods.com, you know we might be

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suspicious.
I yeah, I do get why people be

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suspicious of that.
And I feel like that

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acknowledgement is missing from
a lot of the reporting on this.

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People just being like, OK,
well, they are called

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rainmakers, so I get why people
are nervous.

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The LA Times mentions that
several independent scientists

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have debunked this idea on the
grounds that the companies

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actions could not have caused
this much rainfall.

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But they also only link to one
example of it and the guy

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debunking it.
His main point is this stuff

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never works the way companies
say it will.

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What if it did this time?
I don’t know.

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I never heard that Cloud CD
didn’t work, just that it was

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kind of like worked only in
specific areas, your specific

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circumstances.
You had to have a cloud that was

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ripe for seeding.
Yeah.

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And it also is normally a thing
that only like you’re seeding

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just a single cloud basically
and trying to produce rain from

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that cloud.
But Rainmaker, and that was the

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we’ll link to the guy who was.
There’s no way that this could

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be cheaper than just importing
in more water from the Colorado

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River or whatever the fuck.
Like, yeah, this has got to.

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I’m going to, I’m going to get a
whole biplane involved with some

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silver iodide.
And then and now it’s like I’m

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doing like essential oils for my
cloud.

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Like what?
And cannot stress enough, that’s

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how the events in the post
apocalypse film Snowpiercer

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Start is the government cloud
seeding to stop global warming

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and it freezes the fucking
planet.

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Pretty soon we’ll be fighting
for bug shit.

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Yeah, yeah, that is my favorite
part of that movie, where that

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guy gets all bent out of shape
because the protein bars are

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made out of bugs.
It’s like, man, you admitted to

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eating a baby earlier in this
movie.

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You’re freaked out by bugs.
It’s gross.

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Adam, come on.
I understand that guy’s strife

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completely.
Yeah, babies are tender and

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delicious bugs.
In the in the future, Adam

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yesterday they are.
Probably.

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You we taught you talk shit now
but conspiracy this show 2055

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you hit the Patreon so we could
buy some more like a gecko meat

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and other fallout food supplies.
Yeah, exactly.

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So this guy who’s debunking
this, his argument is it never

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really works and these companies
always over promise and under

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deliver, which that doesn’t feel
like debunking to me.

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That feels like more of a guess
than anything.

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Yeah, it seems like they went,
hey, like, like Brad Guy with no

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knowledge of this whatsoever
debunked this.

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Yeah, and it just did not strike
me as a very thorough debunking.

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And I looked at this company’s
website and it sure doesn’t seem

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like they’re just offering to
make one cloud rain over your

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farm area.
They have a technology section

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on their website and they have 4
main points of their technology

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keep growing, which that is just
about supplying water to

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individual farms, which I think
is what that debunking video was

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kind of referring to is you get
one cloud, you make it rain,

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that’s all you can really do.
But then the second point,

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supply utilities, what they are
saying there is their cloud

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seeding technology can provide
enough water to utility

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companies that they can then
sell that water to the public,

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which that feels like more than
just one individual cloud.

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This is like something I added
on to the end of my paper in

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Community College to make it
sound like it did more work than

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I like.
I I can make enough rain to

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supply fucking California Edison
with you.

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Shut the fuck up.
They also say their system can

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mitigate droughts.
Again, to mitigate drugs, you’re

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using these unnecessarily.
The $5 words for $2.00 Ideas.

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Classic pad job padding I call
padding.

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It’s been padded.
Restore ecosystems.

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This is a quote.
Rainmaker can restore natural

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ecosystems for our children to
inherit and enjoy.

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So it seems like they’re
offering more.

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I’m not a scientist.
I don’t I doubt they are

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connected with this in any way.
If they are, I doubt they did it

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on purpose, like maybe some shit
just went haywire.

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You’d have to be a real like
Phineas and Ferb style fucking

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villain to just want to drown
the Texas girls camp.

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Yeah, I think even ISIS is like,
well, let’s take out a financial

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center or something in that way.
That’s no way to tell America

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they’re the Great Satan.
And so that was my only issue

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with the debunking of this is
that if you’re saying, well, the

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stuff never works, OK, but new
technology could come along that

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does work better.
And I don’t know that this

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company doesn’t have that
technology.

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It never.
Struck me as that strange that

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they could like if a cloud was
about to come that some guy

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could go and tickle its little
cloud clit and make it come

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water.
Yeah.

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It’s it’s made of water anyway.
Yeah, this is a quote also from

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the technology section of the
website.

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Traditional precipitation
enhancement efforts struggled

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with operational flexibility and
measuring impact due to past

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technological limitations.
Recent advancements in drones,

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numerical weather modeling, and
radar algorithms have

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transformed precipitation
enhancement into a viable,

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scalable pursuit with
demonstrable results.

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The time is now, Connor.
Wow, this is.

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I just cannot stop hearing a guy
trying to make his paper sound

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better.
We were unable to mitigate

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unforeseen circumstantial
foibles of the operating

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environment.
Just like just say you didn’t

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buy the right kind of hose the
first time or.

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But I mean, they are implying
that their technology is

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different from how this has been
done in the past.

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Well they here’s what they are
doing is inviting the fuck out

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of conspiracy theorists who love
to read into things to go.

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Oh well they they said they can
mitigate a whole drought.

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That’s it.
Certainly would be enough to

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drown a few girls.
Yeah.

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I mean, the company’s called
Rainmaker.

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Of course people are going to be
like, is that what made it rain?

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Is that the bad guy from the the
movie Looper?

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His name was something with
Rain.

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It might have been Rainmaker.
I did like that movie, but I

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don’t remember.
It’s a great movie.

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And so, yeah, I’m not a
scientist.

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I don’t fucking know anything.
About yeah, his name is the

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Rainmaker.
It is a fucking sci-fi villain.

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Oh, is it?
Yeah.

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And maybe this is too.
Who knows.

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But I do think a little better
explanation than because this

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never works is in order.
Has Rainmaker said anything?

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That’s who I don’t see quoted
any any of this.

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But also, why would you say
anything if you’re them?

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Because.
Yeah, well, it’s kind of like,

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is it?
All publicity is good publicity.

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Yeah, there is ACNN video where
the CEO responds to these

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allegations, but it’s ACNN
video.

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They might as well be pounding
it into a stone tablet.

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I’m not going to fucking read
that shit.

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But I will say the the CEO, he
kind of looks like a movie

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villain too.
He’s got, he’s got flowing

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blonde hair.
His name’s Augustus Dorico.

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Augustus Dorico.
Yeah, this guy did it.

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This.
That’s a guy who fucked your

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bitch in a romance novel.
He looks like that too.

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Augustus Dorico, yeah, he’s
Fabio, Plays him, yeah.

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So I’m saying all of this as if
there’s even a chance that there

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would ever be a discussion
around this.

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The left is just going to
dismiss it out of instinct

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because it’s right wingers
asking the questions and right

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wingers on their part cannot ask
questions like this without it

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being racist or anti-Semitic in
some way.

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So we’re never really going to
talk about this.

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A good example, Charlie Kirk, I
mean, he’s not a good example.

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He’s just a good example of what
I’m talking about.

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He took to his shitty podcast
for Nazis to claim that the

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death toll from the floods quote
would not have been as high if

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it wasn’t for Say It With Me
everybody.

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Diversity, equity and inclusion
initiatives.

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This is a failing of DEI is why
these floods happened.

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Well, there’s, you know, back
when it was all white guys,

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there wasn’t any floods.
Yeah, exactly.

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This is a quote.
The Democrats are so despicable.

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The Democrats are not lifting a
finger to remember the well over

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100 that have died in Texas Hill
Country.

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End Quote.
And then he added, you are not

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being told by the media anywhere
is that the death toll likely

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would not have been as high if
it wasn’t for DEI.

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This Texas tragedy is just the
latest example.

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It’s not just incompetence.
This is DEI working to undermine

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meritocratic institutions.
And more people likely died than

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otherwise would have because of
DEI.

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He is literally saying the chief
of the fire department in this

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area is a black guy.
So that’s why so many people

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died.
Yeah, there’s just.

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There’s not much to say when it
was an argument that stupid.

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Yeah, and so a lot of the social
media response was either right

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wingers questioning if any cloud
seeding happened or people on

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the left suggesting that this is
what states get when they vote

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for Trump, which that I.
Like to imagine that the

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protesters, they’re trying to
fuck our clouds.

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Yeah.
I came in here and fucked our

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clouds and done fucked up our
girls.

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And.
Cloud fucker.

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In Trump’s defense, which is a
thing I almost never say and

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probably won’t ever say again,
Texas in terms of dealing with

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disasters and weather was a
fucking nightmare before Trump

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got re elected.
They are the genius state that

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decided they should have their
own power grid that isn’t

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attached to anyone else’s.
And it’s like there’s a reason

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power grids are attached.
It’s so you can get power from

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the other grids you’re attached
to if yours fails.

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Texas doesn’t have that, so when
their power grid goes down

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they’re just fucked.
They’re just the power square

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when they’re unattached to a
larger grid.

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Yeah, it is that, But it was
also a really sad bit of fake

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news that kind of ran rampant on
social media for a while after

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this.
It was a story about how

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miraculously 2 young girls were
found alive in a tree near

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Comfort, TX.
The Kerr County Lead, the main

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newspaper in the area, ran a
story about it on July 6th after

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sending a reporter to the
alleged scene of the rescue.

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This reporter, her name’s
Jennifer Dean.

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She spoke to 20 to 30 people who
all corroborated the details.

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This is a quote from Kerr County
lead editor Louis Amastoy.

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You had so much enthusiasm in
that community for that story.

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So many people were telling us
that they saw the situation.

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We literally had eye witnesses.
So they run with this story and

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it ends up making national
headlines and unfortunately,

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100% untrue.
This is not a thing that

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happened at all.
And that is according to Kerr

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County Sheriff Larry Leitha.
LEITHA.

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We’ll have our research team
track him down and find out how

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to pronounce that last name.
Hey, buddy, it’s no Augustus

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Dorico, all right, How about you
get a better name?

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Yeah, I kind of hope they did do
it with a name like that.

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The guy kind of looks like a
villain.

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I’m into it.
You got me Googling a lot of

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different ugly guys today.
Larry Lytha.

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Larry Lytha.
Hi, I’m Larry Lytha.

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Lytha Barry Newer.
Yeah, yeah.

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Well, look, he does look like he
has an uncharacteristically high

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voice.
He’s one of these, one of these

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Texas guys whose shoulder he
got.

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He’s got to keep his shoulders
up right underneath his fucking

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ears at 100% of the time.
Yeah, I can see that.

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So Larry Litha reached out to
the Kerr County lead and they

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retracted their story.
This is a quote.

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Like everyone, we wanted this
story to be true, that it’s a

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classic tale of misinformation
that consumes all of us during a

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natural disaster.
Unfortunately, the story is not

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true and we are retracting it.
End Quote.

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And it seems like this story
first popped up because a

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cleanup volunteer named Cord
Shifflett names That’s Cord.

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Shifflett’s a good one, too.
Yeah, he’s he’s a guy who sweeps

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under the bleachers at the at
the local football store.

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He was on Facebook Live when
this was happening and he told

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this story about these two girls
being found.

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He said, we just got news that 2
girls were found 27 feet up in a

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tree alive.
They’ve been holding on for over

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a day and they found them 6
miles downriver.

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And quote, he later got back on
Facebook Live to apologize for

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sharing that story.
I googled that guy and the first

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thing that comes up is the Cord
Shiflet Group.

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He is apparently an Austin, TX
real estate agent.

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Well, you know when you have to
Facebook Live to apologize for

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your earlier Facebook Live You
have cell phoned.

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Yeah, you’re having a rough day.
So these floods have drawn a lot

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of comparisons to the LA
wildfires that happened earlier

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this year, even though they’re 2
completely different elements,

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mostly in that in both cases,
the National Weather Service did

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try to warn people in LA.
There were warnings about

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potentially life threatening
winds days before the winds that

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actually caused the fire
started.

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And those warnings were just
state officials reiterating

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warnings.
The National Weather Service

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started issuing as early as
December 30th and those fires

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happened in February I believe.
So LA had a little bit of heads

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up and for some reason LA
officials decided against pre

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deploying firefighters and also
Karen Bass took off for Ghana

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shortly before the fire started.
Like some kind of you can’t

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have, you can’t have people
think you’re too liberal, you

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know?
Yeah, that’s true.

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And yeah, she took off like some
kind of lady version of Ted

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Cruz, who was also out of state
for this disaster.

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Oh yeah, he’s AI think they
caught him at the airport like

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he had his neck pillow on and
she like he like was totally

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out.
Yeah, that fucking guy, Yeah.

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Didn’t he go to Cancun when they
had that?

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Yeah, he went to the most look
like, yeah, he was like Cancun

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St.
Barts or something fucking

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crazy.
Yeah, And I think his argument

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was like, well, I still got to
be able to operate like, you

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could go to fucking Oklahoma,
dude.

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So meanwhile, in Texas on July
2nd, a few days before the

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flooding, the National Weather
Service warned that, quote,

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heavy rainfall with the
potential to cause flash

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flooding is anticipated across
West TX and the Hill Country.

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And that warning came at least
14 hours before the flooding.

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And yet and still, Rob Kelly,
the top elected official in Kerr

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County, said, quote, rest
assured, no one knew this kind

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of flood was coming.
Yeah, you did.

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You sure did.
Kerr County didn’t send out

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warnings to residents phones
until two days after the worst

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flooding happened, which at that
point just keep your fucking

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notifications to yourself.
You’re like, hey, guess what?

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You can’t go to the store.
Yeah, I know.

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Not going to believe it’s very
wet out there, and not because

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of Bruno Mars.
The great the great Bruno Mars

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in the sky.
There were also warnings to not

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move vehicles through
floodwaters, but people at Camp

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00:24:36,800 –> 00:24:40,160
Mystic decided to evacuate
campers that way anyway.

440
00:24:40,360 –> 00:24:43,880
Last bus got stuck.
All 37 adults and children on

441
00:24:43,880 –> 00:24:48,240
board were swept away also.
This part blows my mind.

442
00:24:48,400 –> 00:24:52,320
The area the storm hit.
It’s called Flash Flood Alley on

443
00:24:52,320 –> 00:24:55,320
account of how flash floods have
killed a bunch of people in that

444
00:24:55,320 –> 00:25:00,120
area previously.
In 1987, floodwaters killed 10

445
00:25:00,120 –> 00:25:04,880
teenage campers in that exact
same area, and in December 91

446
00:25:04,880 –> 00:25:09,280
and January 92, historic flood
levels in the area killed 13

447
00:25:09,520 –> 00:25:11,400
people.
So the move would have been to

448
00:25:11,400 –> 00:25:14,000
evacuate these camps well ahead
of time.

449
00:25:14,280 –> 00:25:17,480
And recognize it’s been it’s
been an unusually long time

450
00:25:17,480 –> 00:25:20,040
since we’ve had a flash flood
and flash flood alley.

451
00:25:20,280 –> 00:25:25,640
And it seems like the reason
they didn’t evacuate is because

452
00:25:25,640 –> 00:25:28,760
it was the 4th of July and they
didn’t want to like.

453
00:25:29,000 –> 00:25:31,680
The Jaws defense.
Yeah, kind of.

454
00:25:31,920 –> 00:25:34,400
They like, didn’t want to
disappoint all these kids.

455
00:25:34,520 –> 00:25:37,800
And it’s like you’re not setting
off fireworks during historic

456
00:25:37,800 –> 00:25:40,520
rainfall, bub.
Get those fucking kids out of

457
00:25:40,520 –> 00:25:42,360
there.
Well, and you know, it’s pretty

458
00:25:42,360 –> 00:25:45,800
disappointed kids when they’re
dead because they can never have

459
00:25:45,800 –> 00:25:47,200
ice cream.
Exactly.

460
00:25:47,640 –> 00:25:49,200
Exactly.
Now those kids will never see

461
00:25:49,200 –> 00:25:51,400
4th of July.
So yeah, this could have been

462
00:25:51,400 –> 00:25:55,120
avoided for sure, if even just
those National Weather Service

463
00:25:55,120 –> 00:25:58,240
warnings were acted on.
So that sucks.

464
00:25:58,480 –> 00:26:02,000
We also haven’t mentioned it
because of course it doesn’t

465
00:26:02,000 –> 00:26:05,280
come up in any of the conspiracy
theories about this, but climate

466
00:26:05,280 –> 00:26:08,760
change is obviously a huge
factor in all of this.

467
00:26:08,920 –> 00:26:13,040
I don’t know how, I don’t know
how climate change works, but I

468
00:26:13,040 –> 00:26:15,760
have no doubt that that is a big
part of this.

469
00:26:15,920 –> 00:26:19,880
The little carbon atoms go up
into the sky and then the sun

470
00:26:19,880 –> 00:26:22,520
bounces off of them.
Adam, don’t you remember?

471
00:26:22,680 –> 00:26:25,600
I do not remember.
Al Gore laid this shit out for

472
00:26:25,600 –> 00:26:29,280
you in like 2003 brother.
I did see that documentary in

473
00:26:29,280 –> 00:26:33,360
theaters, which in retrospect,
what a fucking government

474
00:26:33,360 –> 00:26:35,840
bootlicker I am.
I want to see Al Gore in

475
00:26:35,840 –> 00:26:39,000
theaters.
Yeah, I, I, I’d be interested to

476
00:26:39,000 –> 00:26:41,960
watch that documentary now
because obviously, like we’re

477
00:26:42,200 –> 00:26:45,120
like a lot of shit did happen
and a lot of shit didn’t happen.

478
00:26:45,520 –> 00:26:49,040
I well, what’s what’s I, I don’t
think we were really expecting

479
00:26:49,040 –> 00:26:51,880
about climate change is like it
will just change and get

480
00:26:51,880 –> 00:26:54,200
stranger.
Like now there’s fucking more

481
00:26:54,200 –> 00:26:56,000
hurricanes and shit like that,
you know, and.

482
00:26:56,200 –> 00:26:58,000
It seems like that’s all
happening.

483
00:26:58,200 –> 00:27:03,200
I remember Jesse Ventura when he
had his conspiracy theory TV

484
00:27:03,200 –> 00:27:06,920
show, which fantastic me and
Olivia Hydar reviewed every

485
00:27:06,920 –> 00:27:09,680
episode of it.
He’s got an episode about Al

486
00:27:09,680 –> 00:27:15,640
Gore and climate change, and his
argument is just Al Gore wants

487
00:27:15,640 –> 00:27:17,840
to make money.
That’s it.

488
00:27:19,000 –> 00:27:21,800
That’s his whole argument is Al
Gore’s just doing it for money,

489
00:27:21,920 –> 00:27:25,000
which the climate still sucks.
So maybe, yeah.

490
00:27:25,000 –> 00:27:27,960
It’s a good business, you know,
like, it’s one of the if you go

491
00:27:27,960 –> 00:27:30,360
around and say something sucks
and you say politics sucks, so

492
00:27:30,360 –> 00:27:32,600
politics probably going to suck
in 30 years, you know?

493
00:27:32,760 –> 00:27:34,720
Yeah.
Bill Maher continues to have a

494
00:27:34,720 –> 00:27:37,440
job.
And yeah, if we didn’t mention

495
00:27:37,440 –> 00:27:40,400
climate change here, someone in
the fucking comments would have

496
00:27:40,400 –> 00:27:43,520
mouthed off about it, and we
don’t have time for that.

497
00:27:43,800 –> 00:27:47,800
But yeah, obviously climate
change is the culprit here.

498
00:27:48,240 –> 00:27:51,840
And more specifically, you’re
the climate change from your car

499
00:27:51,880 –> 00:27:53,680
did it.
Yes, yes.

500
00:27:53,840 –> 00:27:58,200
I don’t drive because I don’t
have a license, so I did not

501
00:27:58,200 –> 00:28:02,240
contribute to this at all.
Yeah, Adam cuts his lines with a

502
00:28:02,240 –> 00:28:07,440
Ralph’s card.
So people have been quick to

503
00:28:07,440 –> 00:28:12,440
blame the Trump administration
and their Dodge efforts for the

504
00:28:12,440 –> 00:28:15,520
failure to respond to this
disaster in a way that could

505
00:28:15,520 –> 00:28:19,480
have saved lives.
And that is not unwarranted at

506
00:28:19,480 –> 00:28:24,000
all, if you can believe it.
Department of Homeland Secretary

507
00:28:24,040 –> 00:28:28,760
slash absolute fucking ghoul of
a person Christy Noem recently

508
00:28:28,760 –> 00:28:32,120
put a rule in place that
requires every contract and

509
00:28:32,120 –> 00:28:35,800
grant over $100,000.
These are FEMA contracts and

510
00:28:35,800 –> 00:28:40,400
grants to be signed off on by
her personally before they can

511
00:28:40,520 –> 00:28:43,040
be approved.
This is a quote from a FEMA

512
00:28:43,040 –> 00:28:48,160
official speaking to CNN.
We were operating under a clear

513
00:28:48,160 –> 00:28:52,520
set of guidance, lean forward,
be prepared, anticipate what the

514
00:28:52,520 –> 00:28:55,040
state needs and be ready to
deliver it.

515
00:28:55,160 –> 00:28:58,480
That is not as clear of an
intent for us at the moment, End

516
00:28:58,480 –> 00:29:00,720
Quote.
So that sucks.

517
00:29:01,160 –> 00:29:04,240
Again, what does this even mean?
Is this was is this taped to the

518
00:29:04,240 –> 00:29:07,160
break room wall of like the pink
Berry that I work at?

519
00:29:07,360 –> 00:29:10,920
Yeah, Lean forward, be prepared,
anticipate what the state needs

520
00:29:10,920 –> 00:29:13,640
and be ready to deliver it.
Yeah, it seems like he’s trying

521
00:29:13,640 –> 00:29:17,320
to say we used to be able to act
and now we’re not, but.

522
00:29:17,760 –> 00:29:20,360
Yeah, something like that.
He took the long way around.

523
00:29:20,520 –> 00:29:23,920
One example that’s cited of how
this change impacted the

524
00:29:23,920 –> 00:29:28,240
response is that in the past
FEMA would have pre positioned

525
00:29:28,280 –> 00:29:32,520
urban search and rescue crews in
the area and they were not able

526
00:29:32,520 –> 00:29:35,680
to do that this time around
without Christie Gnome’s

527
00:29:36,000 –> 00:29:38,880
approval.
And the Trump administration

528
00:29:38,880 –> 00:29:43,160
responded to all of these claims
in the only way they know how by

529
00:29:43,160 –> 00:29:47,000
just saying no, that’s not true.
This is a quote from Department

530
00:29:47,000 –> 00:29:49,520
of Homeland Security
spokesperson Tricia McLaughlin.

531
00:29:49,640 –> 00:29:54,640
FEMA is shifting from bloated DC
centric dead weight to a lean

532
00:29:54,640 –> 00:29:59,080
deployable disaster force that
empowers state actors to provide

533
00:29:59,080 –> 00:30:02,360
relief for their citizens.
The old processes are being

534
00:30:02,360 –> 00:30:06,360
replaced because they failed
Americans in real emergencies

535
00:30:06,360 –> 00:30:08,880
for decades.
I feel like these procedures

536
00:30:08,880 –> 00:30:14,120
failed Americans in an emergency
also because more than 100

537
00:30:14,120 –> 00:30:18,680
people died.
So that quote is batshit insane

538
00:30:18,840 –> 00:30:21,440
to me.
Yes, at least it’s like all all

539
00:30:21,440 –> 00:30:23,200
bullshitting in the same
direction.

540
00:30:23,200 –> 00:30:27,000
I understand what she’s trying
to convince me to do for the on

541
00:30:27,000 –> 00:30:29,480
behalf of the man.
And it’s this is just like

542
00:30:29,520 –> 00:30:32,120
classic, like classic, like
something you shouldn’t tell

543
00:30:32,120 –> 00:30:33,400
you.
It’s just it’s to Sunday.

544
00:30:33,400 –> 00:30:36,800
It’s like fucking a lean
deployable disaster force.

545
00:30:36,800 –> 00:30:39,760
Like, I’m sorry, what is this?
It’s fucking South Park bid.

546
00:30:39,760 –> 00:30:41,160
There’s this team of
superheroes.

547
00:30:41,160 –> 00:30:43,920
You’re talking about a lean
deployable disaster.

548
00:30:43,920 –> 00:30:47,840
Like that’s just a nice way of
saying we we cut all the money

549
00:30:47,840 –> 00:30:49,960
out of your disaster force.
Yeah.

550
00:30:49,960 –> 00:30:54,560
And it’s, it really is a classic
Trump administration thing where

551
00:30:54,560 –> 00:30:58,360
people are like, well, this,
this, this is happening because

552
00:30:58,360 –> 00:31:01,080
of your policy.
And not only do they deny it,

553
00:31:01,080 –> 00:31:03,600
but they’re like, no, this, this
and this is actually going

554
00:31:03,600 –> 00:31:05,720
great.
It’s all all those things you

555
00:31:05,720 –> 00:31:07,680
said that are going bad.
They’re actually going great.

556
00:31:07,920 –> 00:31:10,480
Or things that people hate
because they’re underfunded, The

557
00:31:10,480 –> 00:31:12,520
solution is to defund them
entirely.

558
00:31:12,640 –> 00:31:15,480
Yeah, exactly.
And yeah, this is another

559
00:31:15,480 –> 00:31:18,720
example of that, of people being
like, man, FEMA sure was slow to

560
00:31:18,720 –> 00:31:21,480
reply.
And the Trump administration’s

561
00:31:21,480 –> 00:31:24,280
like, no, oh, they got there
faster than anyone’s ever seen.

562
00:31:24,440 –> 00:31:26,520
Trump said that.
He said you had people there, as

563
00:31:26,720 –> 00:31:29,480
has anybody’s ever seen.
No, you fucking didn’t.

564
00:31:29,640 –> 00:31:31,640
You did not.
God damn it.

565
00:31:32,000 –> 00:31:34,000
We people say, well, like, you
know, we don’t have a

566
00:31:34,000 –> 00:31:36,000
meritocracy.
We have like a Kecka stock

567
00:31:36,000 –> 00:31:38,320
recei.
We have like a Dick ride talk

568
00:31:38,320 –> 00:31:40,920
recei.
It’s it’s just like whoever can

569
00:31:40,920 –> 00:31:45,280
ride the his fucking points.
Like it’s, it’s just the game is

570
00:31:45,280 –> 00:31:47,280
pretending that whatever he said
is real.

571
00:31:47,280 –> 00:31:49,960
And whoever is the best at that
rises the highest and the

572
00:31:49,960 –> 00:31:50,720
fastest.
Yeah.

573
00:31:51,680 –> 00:31:54,960
So another really easy to
identify culprit here is the

574
00:31:54,960 –> 00:31:58,640
fact that despite being firmly
positioned in an area called

575
00:31:58,640 –> 00:32:03,600
Flash Flood Alley, Kerr County
has no dedicated flood warning

576
00:32:03,600 –> 00:32:07,000
system at all.
They started planning one years

577
00:32:07,000 –> 00:32:09,720
ago but didn’t have the money to
pay for it.

578
00:32:09,880 –> 00:32:12,320
So to that end, they turn to
FEMA.

579
00:32:12,440 –> 00:32:16,280
But all available FEMA money was
already earmarked for other

580
00:32:16,480 –> 00:32:18,880
projects.
So that’s one of the big

581
00:32:18,880 –> 00:32:20,920
problems here.
Kerr County is just one of a

582
00:32:20,920 –> 00:32:24,200
whole bunch of areas in Texas
that need to tighten up their

583
00:32:24,200 –> 00:32:26,880
flood warning and response
practices.

584
00:32:27,080 –> 00:32:31,480
There are currently $54 billion
in flood projects that are

585
00:32:31,480 –> 00:32:33,320
waiting to be built in the
state.

586
00:32:33,440 –> 00:32:35,960
You know, I briefly thought a
lot of moving to Texas and I

587
00:32:35,960 –> 00:32:39,800
cannot for the life of me
understand what possessed me to

588
00:32:39,800 –> 00:32:42,760
even consider that shit.
Yeah, that seems very odd for

589
00:32:42,760 –> 00:32:46,160
you.
It’s very hot, very lame.

590
00:32:46,480 –> 00:32:51,000
Well I hot I don’t mind because
I grew up in the Midwest so I’m

591
00:32:51,000 –> 00:32:53,760
never going back to winter
weather.

592
00:32:54,320 –> 00:32:58,560
Also the lack of legal weed
definitely put me off.

593
00:32:58,680 –> 00:33:03,040
But also just all of this shit.
Texas is fucking falling apart.

594
00:33:03,200 –> 00:33:06,520
I think it was that the thing
that like sealed the deal for me

595
00:33:06,520 –> 00:33:11,480
not considering moving to Texas
was those winter storms and how

596
00:33:11,480 –> 00:33:13,760
bad their grid handled that
shit.

597
00:33:13,880 –> 00:33:17,000
No thanks.
Yeah, because then you know what

598
00:33:17,000 –> 00:33:20,840
the the next step of that little
thought experiment is?

599
00:33:20,880 –> 00:33:22,720
You know who has guns?
Everybody.

600
00:33:22,880 –> 00:33:25,640
Yeah, exactly.
I mean, I’d get a gun if I moved

601
00:33:25,640 –> 00:33:27,440
to Texas.
Well, you might need you might

602
00:33:27,440 –> 00:33:29,200
need groceries if the power grid
goes out.

603
00:33:29,480 –> 00:33:32,560
Yeah, exactly.
And so now this money is going

604
00:33:32,560 –> 00:33:36,560
to be even harder to come by
with Trump cutting FEMA funding

605
00:33:36,720 –> 00:33:40,040
and putting the responsibility
of recovering from disasters on

606
00:33:40,040 –> 00:33:42,520
the states.
This is a quote from Christopher

607
00:33:42,520 –> 00:33:46,480
Stubing, executive director of
the Texas Floodplain Management

608
00:33:46,520 –> 00:33:48,440
Association.
TIFMA.

609
00:33:48,600 –> 00:33:51,480
I think it’s going to be a big
gap to fill.

610
00:33:51,600 –> 00:33:55,040
FEMA has a reason to be around,
and they need to be there.

611
00:33:55,200 –> 00:33:58,000
There’s a lot of programs that
they engage with and oversee

612
00:33:58,000 –> 00:34:00,320
that communities rely on.
End Quote.

613
00:34:00,680 –> 00:34:03,600
Yeah, like, building all those
camps to put dissidents in.

614
00:34:03,720 –> 00:34:07,520
Remember that shit when George
Bush was in office and every

615
00:34:07,520 –> 00:34:11,400
person on the left was convinced
he was building FEMA camps to

616
00:34:11,400 –> 00:34:14,239
put people in?
And then cut to 10 years later

617
00:34:14,239 –> 00:34:16,840
and everyone on the left is
like, shut up you conspiracy

618
00:34:16,840 –> 00:34:18,480
theorists.
Yeah, I don’t know.

619
00:34:18,480 –> 00:34:23,199
I think I was busy being 11, but
I’m sure that was happening.

620
00:34:23,280 –> 00:34:27,880
Yeah, that would explain your
blatant ignorance of.

621
00:34:28,440 –> 00:34:29,920
I didn’t.
I didn’t know I was a hair’s

622
00:34:29,920 –> 00:34:32,920
breadth away from being put in
the labor camp.

623
00:34:33,120 –> 00:34:37,480
It was such a talking point when
Bush was in office, like people

624
00:34:37,480 –> 00:34:41,159
were convinced he was opening
FEMA camps to put like

625
00:34:41,159 –> 00:34:45,199
protesters and shit in.
It’s like, come on, we would put

626
00:34:45,480 –> 00:34:47,800
immigrants there first,
obviously.

627
00:34:48,320 –> 00:34:50,400
Like we’re doing now, yeah.
Exactly.

628
00:34:50,600 –> 00:34:52,239
And then and you know who’s
next?

629
00:34:52,320 –> 00:34:54,480
Homeless people.
Yeah, we’re going to start

630
00:34:54,480 –> 00:34:56,280
killing homeless people like
tomorrow.

631
00:34:56,400 –> 00:34:58,880
Yeah, it’s going to be
immigrants, homeless people,

632
00:34:58,880 –> 00:35:02,480
trans people, I think our top
three that are going to get it

633
00:35:02,640 –> 00:35:06,560
first and then probably
podcasters after that.

634
00:35:07,720 –> 00:35:10,600
Yeah, I think so.
Independent Media, I mean,

635
00:35:10,600 –> 00:35:14,200
independent media is going to
fucking get it too because he

636
00:35:14,200 –> 00:35:17,880
can’t like withdraw funding from
those outlets.

637
00:35:18,080 –> 00:35:19,680
So he’s going to have.
To and he can’t say I’m going to

638
00:35:19,680 –> 00:35:22,560
stop calling into conspiracy the
show so we we don’t get our

639
00:35:22,560 –> 00:35:24,640
scoop.
Yeah, exactly.

640
00:35:24,800 –> 00:35:29,360
He has also said he just wants
to eliminate FEMA altogether

641
00:35:29,520 –> 00:35:32,200
eventually.
But the Trump administration

642
00:35:32,200 –> 00:35:36,720
recently ended a $4.6 billion
program called Brick Building

643
00:35:36,720 –> 00:35:40,320
Resilient Infrastructure and
Communities, which included a

644
00:35:40,320 –> 00:35:44,280
bunch of already approved grants
for flood projects around the

645
00:35:44,280 –> 00:35:47,120
country.
So this shit will probably

646
00:35:47,400 –> 00:35:51,160
happen again.
In 2024, Texas released a

647
00:35:51,160 –> 00:35:54,640
statewide plan for addressing
flood risk, and one of their

648
00:35:54,640 –> 00:35:58,920
findings in this report, they
put out one in every six people

649
00:35:58,920 –> 00:36:02,200
in Texas lives or works in a
flood hazard area.

650
00:36:02,920 –> 00:36:05,200
You wouldn’t.
Expect that Texas is going to be

651
00:36:05,320 –> 00:36:08,480
the state that falls into the
ocean someday, but here we are.

652
00:36:08,560 –> 00:36:10,840
Maybe it’s going to be.
Yeah, I mean, I guess I always

653
00:36:10,840 –> 00:36:13,880
thought Galveston would end up
being there, you know, some fun

654
00:36:13,880 –> 00:36:17,680
little redneck Atlantis, but I
didn’t know that they were just

655
00:36:18,480 –> 00:36:21,200
getting rained out in the
fucking floods all the God damn

656
00:36:21,200 –> 00:36:24,600
time.
Yeah, I always pictured Texas as

657
00:36:24,600 –> 00:36:28,680
like, not having that much rain.
I’ve never been rained when I’ve

658
00:36:28,680 –> 00:36:29,560
been there.
Yeah, I know.

659
00:36:29,560 –> 00:36:31,720
It’s the I’ve always thought it
was just hot and dry.

660
00:36:32,120 –> 00:36:35,200
But also, I’m stupid about stuff
like that.

661
00:36:35,440 –> 00:36:39,640
The first time I ever toured,
the first show we ever did was

662
00:36:39,640 –> 00:36:43,840
in Albuquerque, NM, and I did an
interview with a college

663
00:36:43,840 –> 00:36:46,040
newspaper the day before the
show.

664
00:36:46,200 –> 00:36:51,000
And the show was in November and
this kid interviewing me goes,

665
00:36:51,160 –> 00:36:53,280
you’re coming here from LA.
Are you ready for the cold

666
00:36:53,280 –> 00:36:55,080
weather?
I was like, excuse me, you’re in

667
00:36:55,080 –> 00:36:56,160
the desert.
It’s not.

668
00:36:56,320 –> 00:36:58,640
It’s not going to be cold there
at all.

669
00:36:58,800 –> 00:37:02,520
And just ignoring that, all you
ever hear about the desert is

670
00:37:02,800 –> 00:37:05,960
cold as shit at night.
And yeah, Albuquerque, it was

671
00:37:05,960 –> 00:37:08,960
fucking freezing.
Had I not done that interview, I

672
00:37:08,960 –> 00:37:12,520
would have had to like touchdown
and go buy a coat somewhere

673
00:37:12,680 –> 00:37:16,440
because I had no fucking concept
that Albuquerque was going to be

674
00:37:16,440 –> 00:37:18,160
cold.
You pack all your Greenland

675
00:37:18,160 –> 00:37:20,800
clothes for your Iceland trip
and all your Iceland clothes for

676
00:37:20,800 –> 00:37:24,640
your Greenland trip.
So there’s another issue at play

677
00:37:24,640 –> 00:37:27,400
here, and this one is a little
complicated.

678
00:37:27,560 –> 00:37:29,640
There are these things called
FEMA flood maps.

679
00:37:29,840 –> 00:37:32,680
They identify Bruno Mars
concerts in your area.

680
00:37:33,920 –> 00:37:37,960
They are maps meant to show what
parts of the country like, right

681
00:37:37,960 –> 00:37:41,960
down to individual homes and
businesses, are situated within

682
00:37:42,000 –> 00:37:45,000
flood zones.
And for the longest time,

683
00:37:45,000 –> 00:37:48,680
experts have said these maps
actually underestimate the risks

684
00:37:48,680 –> 00:37:50,920
of flooding and should be
expanded.

685
00:37:51,120 –> 00:37:54,960
Unfortunately, can’t Mystic,
along with around three dozen

686
00:37:54,960 –> 00:38:00,600
nearby luxury homes, managed to
shrink the flood zones around

687
00:38:00,600 –> 00:38:03,800
their properties.
They did it by way of something

688
00:38:03,800 –> 00:38:06,000
called a letter of map
amendment.

689
00:38:06,280 –> 00:38:09,120
That’s some shit that only rich
people have time to do is send

690
00:38:09,120 –> 00:38:11,680
in a letter of map amendment.
Oh my God.

691
00:38:11,680 –> 00:38:14,240
And the article we’ll link to
about this from the Houston

692
00:38:14,240 –> 00:38:16,920
Chronicle points out that exact
thing.

693
00:38:16,960 –> 00:38:19,200
You’re not getting a lot of
these letters coming from

694
00:38:19,200 –> 00:38:22,960
fucking trailer parks.
It’s rich people building really

695
00:38:22,960 –> 00:38:25,840
nice homes.
Jeeves, you need to look up that

696
00:38:25,840 –> 00:38:29,400
map thing.
And basically what you do is you

697
00:38:29,400 –> 00:38:33,200
send this, you have surveyors
come out and if they can

698
00:38:33,200 –> 00:38:37,000
determine that your property is
even 6 inches above this

699
00:38:37,000 –> 00:38:41,160
floodline, FEMA will remove your
property from this map.

700
00:38:41,280 –> 00:38:46,000
And what that means is you don’t
have to get flood insurance.

701
00:38:46,200 –> 00:38:49,520
Your regular homeowners or
business insurance is going to

702
00:38:49,520 –> 00:38:53,680
be way cheaper because you’re
not in that flood zone.

703
00:38:53,800 –> 00:38:58,760
And a 2017 study found that
nearly 9 out of 10 of these

704
00:38:58,760 –> 00:39:03,320
appeals are successful.
And what I found interesting

705
00:39:03,640 –> 00:39:08,440
about this is in this article,
they mention, you know, this is

706
00:39:08,440 –> 00:39:12,280
just kind of A to buy product.
This is sort of a Side Story.

707
00:39:12,480 –> 00:39:17,120
Even if these buildings were on
the FEMA flood maps, it isn’t

708
00:39:17,120 –> 00:39:19,840
like that would have saved any
lives.

709
00:39:20,040 –> 00:39:25,360
And I don’t think I agree with
that because on the one hand, if

710
00:39:25,360 –> 00:39:28,480
you’re just a rich person
building a house and you’re

711
00:39:28,480 –> 00:39:31,480
willing to roll the dice on not
having flood insurance in a

712
00:39:31,480 –> 00:39:34,920
flood area, who fucking cares?
Like, go nuts.

713
00:39:34,920 –> 00:39:36,800
That’s exactly what’s happening
the.

714
00:39:36,880 –> 00:39:39,680
United States of America, you
know, like.

715
00:39:40,440 –> 00:39:42,920
They even interview a guy who’s
like, yeah, I’m going to have to

716
00:39:42,920 –> 00:39:45,080
pay for all this flood damage,
but I’m fucking rich, I don’t

717
00:39:45,120 –> 00:39:47,160
give a shit.
All that money I saved on flood

718
00:39:47,160 –> 00:39:50,080
insurance.
But Camp Mystic feels different.

719
00:39:50,240 –> 00:39:54,360
Camp Mystic owners have
successfully petitioned to

720
00:39:54,360 –> 00:39:59,280
remove 30 buildings at their
site from the FEMA maps, with

721
00:39:59,400 –> 00:40:02,840
some of those buildings just
sitting a foot or two above the

722
00:40:02,840 –> 00:40:06,040
floodline.
And that for me raises the

723
00:40:06,040 –> 00:40:10,680
question of if those 30
buildings were not removed from

724
00:40:10,680 –> 00:40:12,680
the flood map, they would have
had to.

725
00:40:13,160 –> 00:40:15,600
Pay a whole bunch of money in
extra insurance.

726
00:40:15,800 –> 00:40:19,680
Would this camp have still been
there if they didn’t get removed

727
00:40:19,680 –> 00:40:22,200
from that flood map?
Or would it have made it too

728
00:40:22,200 –> 00:40:26,960
expensive to operate there?
Because if that’s the case, this

729
00:40:26,960 –> 00:40:28,720
absolutely would have saved
lives.

730
00:40:28,880 –> 00:40:33,120
Because one thing you find when
you’re looking into this, this

731
00:40:33,120 –> 00:40:35,520
is a thing that happens
everywhere.

732
00:40:35,840 –> 00:40:39,840
These camps, they intentionally
put their camps right next to

733
00:40:39,840 –> 00:40:43,080
rivers because the land tends to
be flat and it’s pretty.

734
00:40:43,320 –> 00:40:46,600
But in this case, you’re not
just next to a river, you’re

735
00:40:46,600 –> 00:40:49,760
next to a river.
That one has killed more than 20

736
00:40:49,760 –> 00:40:55,040
people since the fucking 80s.
And also you’re in a flash flood

737
00:40:55,040 –> 00:40:57,560
zone.
So if they didn’t get removed

738
00:40:57,560 –> 00:41:01,920
from those FEMA maps, would they
have been able to put that camp

739
00:41:01,920 –> 00:41:05,120
there in the 1st place?
Would it have been financially

740
00:41:05,320 –> 00:41:09,240
feasible for him to do it?
And if not, then I think this is

741
00:41:09,240 –> 00:41:13,080
actually a big part of why those
girls died because this camp

742
00:41:13,280 –> 00:41:16,000
probably shouldn’t have been
there in the 1st place.

743
00:41:16,200 –> 00:41:20,680
It’s there’s and there’s even
other buildings and other areas

744
00:41:20,680 –> 00:41:24,440
of this camp that got no
flooding at all because they’re

745
00:41:24,440 –> 00:41:26,440
just situated in a different
spot.

746
00:41:26,760 –> 00:41:30,520
But they put all the youngest
campers right next to the river

747
00:41:30,680 –> 00:41:34,000
and that is who primarily died
at that camp.

748
00:41:34,120 –> 00:41:37,920
And I just you like with that
FEMA flood map that might have

749
00:41:38,080 –> 00:41:42,160
made it not possible for them to
do that financially and those.

750
00:41:42,160 –> 00:41:46,360
Kids to close those buildings,
you know, maybe.

751
00:41:46,680 –> 00:41:49,200
Yeah, that’s a great point.
Could have been prohibitively

752
00:41:49,200 –> 00:41:51,360
expensive.
Yeah, they might have, you know,

753
00:41:51,360 –> 00:41:55,680
had to move the camp somewhere
else that’s less pretty, but at

754
00:41:55,680 –> 00:41:58,520
least you wouldn’t have dozens
of campers dead from.

755
00:41:58,760 –> 00:42:02,320
Flooding less pretty, less
floody, you know, yeah, it’s

756
00:42:02,360 –> 00:42:05,080
kind of a, it’s kind of a
balance Every, every camp owner

757
00:42:05,080 –> 00:42:08,000
has to ask himself.
I mean, flooding can be pretty,

758
00:42:08,160 –> 00:42:11,720
you know.
Yeah, imagine a guy on the sheet

759
00:42:11,720 –> 00:42:14,160
of plywood just floating through
downtown Los Angeles.

760
00:42:14,160 –> 00:42:16,040
Just kind of kind of beautiful,
you know?

761
00:42:16,160 –> 00:42:19,120
Yeah.
So I think, I think that’s our

762
00:42:19,120 –> 00:42:21,000
episode.
We we did it.

763
00:42:21,200 –> 00:42:24,040
Do we have any final thoughts on
Texas flooding?

764
00:42:24,040 –> 00:42:26,640
I would like to make it clear, I
don’t actually think the

765
00:42:26,640 –> 00:42:29,400
Rainmaker company is responsible
for this.

766
00:42:29,480 –> 00:42:34,120
I just love the coincidence that
a company called Rainmaker

767
00:42:34,120 –> 00:42:38,240
showed up two days before all
this and boy did someone make it

768
00:42:38,240 –> 00:42:39,520
rain.
But definitely.

769
00:42:39,520 –> 00:42:41,560
Not then.
I think the rainmaker from the

770
00:42:41,560 –> 00:42:44,560
film Looper was behind this.
That guy was no good.

771
00:42:44,840 –> 00:42:47,400
He had to give look he was he
was causing problems in the

772
00:42:47,400 –> 00:42:48,600
future.
What makes you think he wouldn’t

773
00:42:48,600 –> 00:42:51,200
cause problems in the past?
That’s an excellent point.

774
00:42:51,360 –> 00:42:54,840
So Connor, thank you so much for
doing the pod, as always.

775
00:42:55,040 –> 00:42:57,960
What do we have?
This feels like the ideal time

776
00:42:58,160 –> 00:43:00,680
to plug some shit.
We’re going to have a new

777
00:43:00,680 –> 00:43:03,360
website soon.
I know I said that last episode,

778
00:43:03,360 –> 00:43:06,800
but it’s coming.
And also a couple new podcasts

779
00:43:06,800 –> 00:43:10,360
in your area, which is about
local news from around the

780
00:43:10,360 –> 00:43:12,680
country that’s not getting
enough attention.

781
00:43:12,880 –> 00:43:15,800
And what in the world?
Same thing but international

782
00:43:15,800 –> 00:43:17,600
news.
You can get both of those in the

783
00:43:17,600 –> 00:43:21,200
same feed as you don’t even like
this show, which is now called

784
00:43:21,200 –> 00:43:22,880
the Monday show.
That’s back too.

785
00:43:23,040 –> 00:43:25,160
And that’s all I got.
Connor, what do you want to?

786
00:43:25,480 –> 00:43:27,840
Plug You can check out my comedy
special live in Tucson on

787
00:43:27,840 –> 00:43:32,320
youtube.com youtube.com Connor
Mcspadden live in Tucson for an

788
00:43:32,320 –> 00:43:35,080
hour of laughs.
And I think that’s it.

789
00:43:35,120 –> 00:43:37,200
Let’s get the fuck out of here.
Connor, say goodbye.

790
00:43:37,520 –> 00:43:39,600
Bye everybody.
Goodbye everybody, we love you.