Conspiracy! The Show 342: The RFK Assassination Files Pt. 4: The Pruszynski Recording

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I.
Hey everybody, welcome to

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Conspiracy the Show.
I’m your host Adam Todd Brown

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joining me as Co host this week.
Condom expands here.

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How’s it going, man?
Going good Adam.

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Well, honestly going less good
after I read the notes.

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This is a pretty infuriating
episode.

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It sure is.
These RFK episodes have all been

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kind of frustrating because of
all the conspiracies out there,

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this seems like the most obvious
one, the one that everyone seems

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to agree.
Yep, we should probably reopen

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this and look into it again.
I am now more certain that there

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were multiple shooters at the
RFK assassination than I am that

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Jeffrey Epstein didn’t kill
himself.

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That’s how insane this deluge of
evidence is.

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It’s just ridiculous.
Yeah, if I had to choose which

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hill to die on between this and
Elvis joined witness Protection,

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I would go with this.
Yeah, this is even taking

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precedence over our Elvis
Truther status here on the show,

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which as you know, is die hard
and robust.

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Yeah, what we’re talking about
this week.

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I mentioned on the last RFK
episode that a lot more files

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have been added to this archive.
And we’re doing 25 more RFK

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episodes in this series.
Minimum, probably.

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I’ll break it up a little bit,
but I feel like there’s going to

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be a lot.
On the last one, I mentioned

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that these files have changed a
bunch since they first uploaded

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them, and the stuff on the first
few pages is different now.

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And the first page of those
files, at least as of right now,

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is an FBI memo dated October
25th, 2012.

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We’ll link to it in the show
notes.

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And it is the FBI responding to
a request from RFK Junior to

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reopen the investigation into
his father’s assassination.

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And his request is based on
analysis of a piece of evidence

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in the RFK assassination called
the Przynski tape.

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I should have looked up to make
sure I’m pronouncing that right,

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but probably.
It looks like Przynski to me.

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Przynski, Przynski, maybe, maybe
put a little.

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A little in there, yeah.
I can spice it up a little bit.

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This is not the Kaminski method.
This is the Przynski tape.

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The Brzezinski tape is a
recording that was inadvertently

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made by a Polish journalist
named Stanislaw Brzezinski.

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Well, you know, he’s Polish, so
he does everything

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inadvertently.
That’s just the way it goes.

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He recorded RF KS speech at the
Ambassador Hotel like a real

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fucking nerd.
I mean that was you had to do

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that back then.
There was no YouTube.

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You couldn’t be like, I’ll find
it online later.

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You had to preserve this shit.
Yeah, and you had to quote

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people on stuff.
You know, that’s, that’s a lot

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of pressure.
If I I wouldn’t want to be going

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around quoting people off my
memory, I would want some

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receipts.
Yeah, absolutely.

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So after Kennedy finished his
speech, Przynski went to the

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podium to retrieve his tape
recorder and just forgot to turn

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it off.
Typical Polish behavior.

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And so he was still recording
when RFK was shot.

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And he had this tape and he went
back and listened to it and was

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like, oh shit, that that was all
when RFK was shot.

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But he also assumed other people
would have been recording and

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that authorities would have had
a copy of this tape also.

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So he just didn’t notify anyone.
He just went back to Montreal

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where he lived, fucking tossed
this tape in the back of his car

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and was like, that’s probably
not important.

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Can I just make a blanket
statement that modesty does

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history no favors when it comes
to assassination witnesses?

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You know, like that.
There’s no need for your little

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like, oh little old me shit.
Like just send the tape.

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Oh, I don’t want to bother the
police.

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Bother the police no matter
what.

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Or better yet, bother an
independent journalist or

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scientist.
Yeah, yeah, we’re kind of lucky

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he didn’t immediately give this
tape to the police, at least not

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the original.
But he was wrong about

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authorities having a copy or a
similar tape.

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So in early 1969, the FBI had
the Royal Canadian Mounted

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Police make a recording of his
tape.

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I wonder why it happened that
way.

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I wonder why they weren’t just
like, hey, we make a copy and

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we’ll come pick it up.
I wonder if he was like, no, but

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I’ll give it to the police and
you’d get it from them.

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Yeah, maybe.
I mean, I, I guess, I guess the

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Mounties have probably got a
nice tape deck.

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You know, I, I would imagine
they need that for something at

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this in 1960, whatever.
Yeah, because now that I think

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about it, home, like cassette
recording wasn’t a thing until

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the 70s, I believe.
Yeah, ’cause that’s when the

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Dead Kennedys left the B side of
the In God We Trust EP blank and

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wrote the home taping is killing
the record industry.

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We left the side blank so you
can help.

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There was a parody bumper
sticker of that that went around

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around the same time that said
home fucking is killing the porn

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industry.
I like that.

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That’s fun.
So yeah, after that they got the

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tape, the FBI concluded there
was nothing of value to be heard

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on it and it just went into the
LAPD’s files for a long time.

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The.
Fucking Federal Bureau of

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ignoring important shit.
And the LAPD, one of the things

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you hear about this
investigation from people back

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when it happened is, Oh well, we
don’t want all the JFK

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questions.
You know, we want this to be

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pretty transparent, which is
probably why they arranged for

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it to happen in a kitchen with a
shit ton of witnesses.

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But then it just turns
immediately into JFK shit with

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one example being the LAPD
refusing to release any of these

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files for like 19 years.
It’s like why?

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Why don’t you want these files
released?

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Who is it going to implicate
that you don’t want implicated

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that someone in the LAPD?
Never know.

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But those files were released
starting in 1988.

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Because you when when when we’ve
looked at all the evidence we’ve

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looked at here, how many people
on the LAPD had to just straight

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up do a bad job for this to good
like like slip through the

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cracks, straight up ignore
protocol, discard evidence, not

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catalog, but whatever.
Like there, there is a lot.

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I don’t believe that they’re
that incompetent.

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I mean, cop hater that I am, I,
I, I think they know what

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they’re doing to the degree that
they could find bullet holes in

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door frames and shit like that,
that they just didn’t.

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Yeah, and they did find bullet
holes in door frames even.

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And they were just like, Nah,
those aren’t bullet holes.

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It’s like you don’t want to test
that and make sure you’re just

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I.
Thought I thought that was one

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of the things they found later,
but I guess I’m wrong.

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Well, they found bullet holes,
but the lead investigator, who

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we’ll talk about him more in a
minute, he determined the metal

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inside the holes in the door
frame was was not bullets.

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And it’s like, you determine
that from just looking at the

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holes that had metal in them,
and you’re like, yeah, it’s not

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bullet metal.
I know a lot about holes, OK.

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Yeah, I and of course those door
frames have since been

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destroyed.
Oh, good.

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Perfect.
There’s not much.

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There’s wouldn’t have been any
museum space anywhere that

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wanted to hold on to those.
No, no, definitely not.

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Yeah, that’s the other thing.
You go to the Reagan library,

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they have every piece of
evidence from his attempted

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assassination there.
Those.

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Fuckers.
But this we don’t We just we’ve

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lost it all.
Except the Reagan Library has

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the souvenir program about
assassination.

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So you can review all the, you
know, key points.

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So this recording, it goes into
the LAP DS files.

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It’s eventually made public in
1990, but then it’s another 14

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years before anyone actually
finds this tape and listens to

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it.
It was 2004.

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ACNN reporter and RFK historian
named Brad Johnson found this

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tape, listened to it, and he
heard popping noises that he

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suspected might be gunshots.
He matched up the time of the

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recording with footage of the
scene and determined that this

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recording would have happened
when RFK was being shot.

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Because in video from the scene,
you can see Przynski go up and

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get his tape recorder and walk
off, and they know what time

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that happened.
And at the exact time he’s

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heading toward this pantry, you
see him on video heading to the

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pantry.
That’s when the shots are being.

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Fired, and I got to commend
whoever did this because I have

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had the sync audio of old Mean
boys shows to a video of old

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Mean Boys shows and I got to
wait until I’m getting spanked

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with a giant paddle to use that
as a slate.

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It’s very difficult to find
archival sync points between

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video and audio.
Yeah, 100%.

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Especially video and audio from
back then.

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Yeah, no shit.
And so he shares this recording

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with sound engineers at both CNN
and Paramount Pictures.

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And both of those people agreed
there were more shots than you

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could hear just with your naked
ear.

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And then he gave the recording
from there to two audio

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specialists, one Phil Van
Prague, an experienced audio

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engineer, another Spencer
Whitehead, an audio science

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professor at Georgia Institute
of Technology.

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Both of them also agreed that
more than eight shots could be

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heard on this tape in 2007.
Three other experts who examined

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the recording at Johnsons
request said they heard at least

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ten shots.
But these people are all

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Palestinian sympathizers.
Exactly.

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Yeah, that’s the thing.
What, what ends up happening

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here, spoiler alert, is this
gets in front of a judge.

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And this judge is like, yeah,
but there’s also some experts

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who refute what’s happening on
the tape, so I guess we don’t

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need to reopen the case.
And it’s like, what the fuck is

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that?
The judge is like don’t fuck up

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my fucking golf game for me,
asshole.

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Yeah, it really is that vibe.
He’s like, yeah, some other

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experts said it’s not real.
It’s like they’re writing a book

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about RFK that doesn’t factor
into your thinking at all.

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You don’t, you don’t want to be
the judge who goes around, you

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know, being a nuisance to the
deep state, Adam, you know, like

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that can’t be good for your
career on the bench.

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Yeah, there is an episode of The
Good Fight, the greatest

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television show of the last 25
years.

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It’s about a law firm and so you
see like court cases and shit,

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and a lot of it is based on real
things.

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It’s a spin off of The Good
Wife.

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And The Good Wife very famously
covered Oman Square, which is

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that black site in Chicago that
the police were operating

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without letting anyone know.
They did an episode about that a

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year before the story broke.
So they get into like ripped

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from the headlines type shit
sometimes before it makes the

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headlines.
In in a kind of ACSI type way

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and.
One of the things that happens

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in this whole season of The Good
Fight is these judges keep

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getting cases brought in front
of them, and then they get this

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memo and then they show up in
court and they’re like,

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actually, no, we’re going to
just dismiss the case.

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And it’s someone high up that’s
just like, don’t, don’t take

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that case.
There’s no way that shit doesn’t

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happen in real life.
It happened with with Epstein.

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I forget the exact, you know,
appeals court and the exact

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judge or whatever, but he said
basically like I was told he’s

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above my pay grade.
He’s intelligence back the fuck

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off.
I think that’s a that’s a quote

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from a guy.
Yeah, we did an episode of this

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podcast years ago about a group
called The Finders. 01 of the

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creepiest fucking shows we ever
did.

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The Finders is so creepy man.
And I mean, I’m convinced that

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was a human, like a child
trafficking.

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Yeah.
Oh definitely, most definitely.

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And it was willfully ignored.
Yeah, well, that’s the thing.

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It wasn’t willfully ignored
until it got to the CIA because

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there’s two different incidents
where people tried to like,

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pursue a case against them and
it kept getting kicked up to

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like, FBI, whoever.
I mean, because it’s some

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serious shit, right?
And both times it hit the CIA

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and they were like, Nope, Nope,
we’re not.

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We’re not going to look into
that at all.

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So don’t doubt that the judge in
this case might have had it put

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in his ear that I don’t give a
fuck what’s on that tape.

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You do not reopen this
investigation.

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Yeah, judges have still got a
little bit of that.

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Like you remember how we felt
about, you know, cops and shit

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before 911?
They got a little bit of that

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shine on them where we still
believe they’re public servants.

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But I I’m not buying it.
I think you’re just as corrupt

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as as the average male man.
Yeah, I think you’re allowed to

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be, you know, a good guy to some
point.

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And then you run into shit like
this and they’re like, yeah, you

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got to, you got to go the other
way.

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Because even I think you’re
right, judges do still have an

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air of respectability to them.
And you’re seeing it even now

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where there’s like judges Trump
appointed who now he’s putting

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their immigration shit in front
of them and they’re like, are

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you fucking crazy?
You cannot just deport people to

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fucking Venezuela.
But those are judges he

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appointed, so that gives me a
little bit of hope.

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I mean, until he starts sending
those judges to fucking hell.

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Yeah, until he, until we find
the camp judge somewhere exactly

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in the Gulf of America.
Somewhere.

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Yeah, Camp Judy.
Why do they call it Camp Judy?

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Camp Judy.
Would be a sick name for your

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like judicial concentration
camp.

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It’s all judges in there.
It stands for Judges unduly

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dying yesterday.
So we’ll link to a YouTube video

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of Phil van Praag explaining
this analysis himself if anyone

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wants to listen to it.
I think he makes a very

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convincing case.
He seems very, very, very

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believable.
He’s got a whole array of

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expensive looking audio
equipment behind him as he’s

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talking.
If I ever get shot, I totally

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trust this guy to determine the
number of shots based on any

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iPhone voice memo anywhere in
the building.

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Yeah, he seems super fucking
believable.

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He seems like a real nerd, yeah.
Yeah, an audio nerd, 100%, and

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he used an oscilloscope and a
spectrum analyzer.

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Same shit I would have used to
filter out the suspected gun

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sounds from the other ambient
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And there are apparently
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a gunshot that make it unique
from like balloons popping or

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firecrackers.
He said he found what appeared

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to be thirteen shots, but that a
scream at the end of the

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recording may have obscured a
14th shot.

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And there’s people who disagree.
We’ll talk about them more

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later.
But he found more than just

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extra gunshots.
He also claimed that shots three

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and four and shots 7 and 8 are
too close together to have been

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fired by the same gun.
Well, and Sir Han only had eight

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shots.
Yeah, he only had eight shots in

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his gun.
And like, even if there’s only

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eight shots, that part still
speaks to there being a second

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shooter, because even if there’s
only eight shots, 2 times those

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shots happened too fast for it
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So both in terms of the number
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yeah, it’s consistent with two
guns.

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And there was a Discovery Times
documentary, which is now

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Investigation Discovery that
tested this.

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They had a firearms expert fire
the same kind of gun Sir Han.

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Sir Han was firing and it was
like .3 seconds was the minimum

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amount of time he could get two
shots off.

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I’ve seen a couple of gifts of a
couple of fat guys that I would

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like to test this theory.
I think that they could perhaps

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produce some of the same numbers
based on what I’ve seen.

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But you know, this, this guy
couldn’t do it.

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That’s something.
The thing about that

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investigation, discovery,
experiment, one of the things

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people push back on is, oh,
well, they did those shots

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outside instead of doing them
inside a pantry.

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Like it actually happened.
And Phil Van Prag was like,

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yeah, that’s called ideal
conditions.

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So even under ideal conditions,
they could not get the shots off

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in that amount of time.
Once you factor in jostling

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around and people screaming then
it’s going to take even longer

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to get those fucking shots off.
It’s a great thing to watch a

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smart person talk to a stupid
person sometimes.

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Yeah, really is fun.
Van Prague also claimed his

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analysis showed that shots 35810
and 12 were all fired from a

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different gun because their
sound waves had a weird anomaly

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that the other sound waves did
not.

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And then he also found that the
five anomaly shots were fired

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from a different direction than
the other eight, as if the two

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shooters were facing different
directions.

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Once you get into shit like
that, I know we’re dealing with

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a goddamn expert here.
I feel like I could I could send

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this guy a tape of a recording
of me coming from 138 feet away

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and he’d be like, Connor hadn’t
jacked off in four days and he

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was watching gang bang porn.
This guy is unbelievable.

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Yeah, He also was able to
determine that those five

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anomaly shots that seemed like
they were coming from a

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different direction were fired
from an H&R 9/22/22 caliber

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revolver.
Sir Han, Sir Han was firing an

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Ivor Johnson Cadet 22 caliber
revolver.

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But do you know who did have an
H and R22 at the time of the

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shooting?
Bane?

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Eugene Cesar, the security guard
from the last episode, who a lot

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of history has come to suspect
was the actual shooter.

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The gun he sold was an H&R 22
caliber.

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Pistol and I’ve been thinking
about it there’s I really cannot

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come up with a more racist
sounding first name than Thane.

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It just screams something about
it is just prejudice.

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Well.
And it rhymes with Bane so it

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just feels like.
Movies menace to it, yeah.

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Yeah, feels like movie villain
shit.

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Why did he flee to the
Philippines?

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Is that where his goddamn lair
was at?

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Well, you know, if you’re black,
he’s the Thane of your

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existence.
Now we’ve reached the point

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where the shit gets.
We’re Palestinian.

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Yeah, we’ve reached the point
where the shit gets really

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frustrating.
I’ve said a million times that

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when it comes to conspiracy
stuff, the people pushing the

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theory get just scrutinized
endlessly.

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But we’ll take a debunking from
any fuck face on the Internet

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who wants to debunk it.
Like it can be a Geocities page

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with no fucking source links,
and someone’s going to be like,

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yeah, but this guy debunked it.
It’s like, I don’t trust that

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guy.
People just want to read a thing

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that’s like 19 words long and
they don’t have to click on a

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link and it just tells them
something comfortable to hear.

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Yeah.
And no one is actually sitting

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and down.
No one’s actually sitting down

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and doing and breaking out the
goddamn oscilloscope like Van

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Prague and doing some goddamn
work.

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Yeah, I don’t think you were on
the episode we did not too long

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ago about the deadly double.
Are you familiar with that

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conspiracy?
Well, it claims that there was

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an ad placed in New Yorker
magazine that was a tip off that

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Pearl Harbor was about to
happen.

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And there’s a Snopes article out
there that’s like, no, it’s just

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that’s just, that’s fake.
That’s not anything at all.

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And then right at the end,
they’re like, but also that guy

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was in a precursor to the CIA.
And it’s like, really, you’re

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going to leave it there?
So I looked into it more.

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Not only was that guy in a
precursor to the CIA, he also

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the office where he developed
this game was in the same

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building where the Japanese
consulate was at.

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So while he’s developing this
game that people think is a tip

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off to Pearl Harbor, he’s right
there next to the Japanese

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consulate.
The whole time was already in

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the military.
Oh, that’s very strange.

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At that point, there’s so much
weird shit about it, and Snopes

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is just like, yeah, we asked the
FBI.

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They didn’t know anything about
it.

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It’s like the FBI is not going
to tell you what.

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Was said that 911 was like the
new Pearl Harbor, like the new

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fake Pearl Harbor that they
picked up.

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It’s a well, no.
Well, Pearl Harbor was the fake

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Pearl Harbor.
There are a lot of advanced

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knowledge theories about Pearl
Harbor.

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I’ve read some of that stuff.
I’ve never looked into it.

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I probably should.
My grandmother was at Pearl

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Harbor when it was bombed.
She was three years old.

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Got got taken out on a on a bus,
was hiding under the bed when

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the fucking zeros were flying
over.

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That’s fucking intense.
Pretty crazy shit almost didn’t

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exist.
I read a book about the Office

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of Naval Intelligence not too
long ago.

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And at that point in history,
the debate in the United States

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was, should we get involved in
this war or should we stay out?

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And the people who wanted to get
into that war are the same

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people who would have known
about Pearl Harbor first, which

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is the Office of Naval
Intelligence.

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And the suspicion is they were
like, oh, that might be all

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right.
If that happens, we’ll just then

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we’ll obviously get into the
war.

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So it’s kind, it’s very similar
to 911 in that people think it

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wasn’t so much an inside job,
but that people knew it was

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going to happen and weren’t all
that upset about it because it

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would help them achieve their
goals.

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And, and from what I recall of
my 20th century civics, FDR was

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pretty isolationist.
And until this happened, like

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that was, he was pretty like he
kind of wouldn’t, but he’d

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mostly just play it safe and
just focus on America with the

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socialism and what have you.
But that’s fucking crazy.

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Yeah, it was.
Should we get in the war?

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And also should we spend a bunch
of money building up our naval

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intelligence resources or should
we, like, scale that back

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because America is safe from
their enemies and Pearl Harbor

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happened.
It’s like, I bet you fucking

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need us now, huh?
I bet you want Rosie to rivet

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some shit now.
So yeah, in this case, the

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person who’s debunking all of
this audio evidence is a writer

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named Mel Ayton.
And the thing about him, he was

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writing a book.
It came out in 2007, so

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suspiciously close to when this
tape becomes public knowledge

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because that was 2004.
And then in 2007, this guy

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publishes a book called The
Forgotten Terrorist, Sir Han.

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Sir Han and the Assassination of
Robert F Kennedy.

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And as the title implies, it is
a book about how Sirhan Sirhan

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definitely acted alone.
Irons ketchup, says Ketchup, a

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vegetable.
Exactly.

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And this guy was like, no, I’ve
reached out to my own audio

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experts and they all said you
can maybe hear seven or eight

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shots at best.
My cousin Dave has garage band

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and.
And one of the things, like I’ve

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said a million times, you can
always find a scientist who will

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back up your version of what you
think physical evidence means.

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Second, Dead Kennedy’s reference
of the show track to plastic

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surgery disasters.
Well paid scientist.

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Thank you very much, Jello.
And you see that that all the

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time.
So in this case, you have to ask

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yourself, who’s got more
motivation to lie here?

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Is it ACNN reporter who just
turned over this recording to a

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bunch of experts and now those
experts are telling him what

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they heard?
All on his own personal time and

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dime, right?
You know.

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And he’s not giving it to them
and being like, hey, will you

435
00:24:50,800 –> 00:24:53,080
tell me if you hear 12 or 13
shots on this?

436
00:24:53,280 –> 00:24:55,200
He’s just being like, tell me
what you hear.

437
00:24:55,360 –> 00:24:58,800
And everyone he talked to came
back and was like 10 to 13

438
00:24:58,800 –> 00:25:02,680
shots, I think.
So compare that to Mel Ayton,

439
00:25:02,840 –> 00:25:07,880
who is writing a book about how
Sir Han, Sir Han definitely

440
00:25:07,880 –> 00:25:11,680
acted alone, no second shooter.
Who’s got more motivation to

441
00:25:11,680 –> 00:25:14,120
lie.
It would undo his whole book if

442
00:25:14,120 –> 00:25:18,960
that fucking tape turned out to
actually show 10 to 13 shots.

443
00:25:19,400 –> 00:25:21,880
Yeah, and he doesn’t.
And he doesn’t want news that’s

444
00:25:21,880 –> 00:25:23,640
going to undo his whole book.
He doesn’t.

445
00:25:23,960 –> 00:25:26,400
He’s got an extreme case of
confirmation bias here.

446
00:25:26,400 –> 00:25:28,280
He’s almost done.
He’s like, let me just get this

447
00:25:28,280 –> 00:25:30,720
stupid audio expert thing and
then I could fucking sell this

448
00:25:30,720 –> 00:25:33,480
shit.
Yeah, some fucking dad can read

449
00:25:33,480 –> 00:25:37,240
it on an airport.
And we’ll link to an article

450
00:25:37,360 –> 00:25:42,240
where Mel Ayton goes into detail
about the advanced techniques

451
00:25:42,560 –> 00:25:46,200
his researchers used, and this
is what he lists.

452
00:25:46,280 –> 00:25:49,640
Oh this is great.
One, listening analytically to

453
00:25:49,640 –> 00:25:52,440
the recording via high quality
headphones.

454
00:25:52,640 –> 00:25:55,760
You can stop right there because
you’re just saying he listened

455
00:25:55,760 –> 00:25:57,440
to the tape.
That’s it.

456
00:25:57,880 –> 00:26:01,080
That’s not science.
No, he just, he was.

457
00:26:01,080 –> 00:26:04,800
He really is patting the words
there like he’s trying to write

458
00:26:04,800 –> 00:26:08,240
an essay in middle school.
Analytically, scientifically,

459
00:26:08,240 –> 00:26:13,080
carefully using the scientific
method, strategically extracted

460
00:26:13,080 –> 00:26:16,960
data from the situation
regarding the shooting, using

461
00:26:16,960 –> 00:26:20,320
audio technical tools and
abilities acquired by myself and

462
00:26:20,320 –> 00:26:22,000
my associates in the pursuit of
knowledge.

463
00:26:22,200 –> 00:26:24,400
You listen to it.
Oh yeah, he didn’t listen to it

464
00:26:24,400 –> 00:26:29,080
through iPod earbuds in 2007.
With his girlfriend with she had

465
00:26:29,080 –> 00:26:30,840
one-on-one side and he had one
on the other side.

466
00:26:31,320 –> 00:26:32,680
That was the best part about
middle school.

467
00:26:32,880 –> 00:26:35,000
Yeah, I don’t know why I said
yeah, like I was in middle

468
00:26:35,000 –> 00:26:36,600
school on.
The iPod game.

469
00:26:36,840 –> 00:26:42,080
Yeah, so much better than my
early 20s so #2 examining visual

470
00:26:42,080 –> 00:26:45,280
representations of the
recordings waveform again.

471
00:26:45,520 –> 00:26:48,040
Just dropped it in the audacity.
You just.

472
00:26:48,200 –> 00:26:51,560
You pulled it up in an audio
editing program and went look at

473
00:26:51,560 –> 00:26:53,000
that.
And then the last one is

474
00:26:53,000 –> 00:26:57,240
analyzing spectrograms.
So they did less work than Phil

475
00:26:57,240 –> 00:27:02,280
Van Prag did.
And somehow that ends up being

476
00:27:02,280 –> 00:27:06,800
enough to get this idea of
reopening the investigation.

477
00:27:06,800 –> 00:27:11,120
Shut down a judge literally is
like, yeah, but there’s other

478
00:27:11,120 –> 00:27:14,600
experts who say this guy’s
wrong, so I don’t think we need

479
00:27:14,600 –> 00:27:17,040
to look into it more.
You see, when even when even the

480
00:27:17,040 –> 00:27:20,440
judge is just like reading the
too long didn’t read click

481
00:27:20,440 –> 00:27:23,040
preview and he’s not even going
through the whole thing.

482
00:27:23,040 –> 00:27:24,400
It’s like how depressing is
that?

483
00:27:24,400 –> 00:27:26,200
It’s the truth.
Doesn’t even have a chance.

484
00:27:26,400 –> 00:27:30,920
Yeah, I don’t get that line of
thinking with, well, someone

485
00:27:30,920 –> 00:27:33,000
said it’s not true, so we don’t
have to look into it.

486
00:27:33,720 –> 00:27:36,120
How do you know they’re right
and not the person?

487
00:27:36,280 –> 00:27:38,320
It’s crazy.
And does nobody want to be the

488
00:27:38,320 –> 00:27:40,440
judge that reopened the RFK
case?

489
00:27:40,440 –> 00:27:43,240
I mean that to me that would be
a cool feather in my judge cap.

490
00:27:43,600 –> 00:27:47,960
Yeah, I’ll tell you this right
now, if RFK Junior can swing me

491
00:27:47,960 –> 00:27:52,440
a judge job somewhere, I’ll
absolutely reopen the.

492
00:27:52,760 –> 00:27:56,520
Rubber stamped open and shut.
Yeah, the first thing I do.

493
00:27:56,600 –> 00:27:58,440
I’ll even retire after that.
What else?

494
00:27:58,440 –> 00:28:00,480
Where else would there be for
you to go, Adam?

495
00:28:00,560 –> 00:28:03,280
I mean, no offense.
Yeah, that’s the peak.

496
00:28:03,360 –> 00:28:06,280
That’s Mount Everest for a
conspiracy theory podcaster.

497
00:28:06,520 –> 00:28:10,040
Unless we go and, and, and like,
steal Elvis’s bones or

498
00:28:10,040 –> 00:28:12,720
something.
I mean from Columbia Dignidad

499
00:28:12,720 –> 00:28:15,000
down in South America, where the
Nazis have guarded them for

500
00:28:15,000 –> 00:28:17,200
hundreds of years.
We did an episode about that

501
00:28:17,200 –> 00:28:20,040
place too, Colonia Dignidad.
Yeah, that was a good one.

502
00:28:20,480 –> 00:28:22,560
This is fucking wild.
I think I fucked the girl who

503
00:28:22,560 –> 00:28:24,200
was from there.
Oh, nice.

504
00:28:24,520 –> 00:28:27,480
Pretty scary.
You know, people, there’s people

505
00:28:27,480 –> 00:28:30,600
who still live there because
they’re just so fucked up they

506
00:28:30,600 –> 00:28:33,560
can’t live in regular society.
It’s nuts.

507
00:28:33,800 –> 00:28:38,840
So what’s especially wild about
all of this is how long people

508
00:28:38,840 –> 00:28:41,840
have suspected something was
strange about this

509
00:28:41,840 –> 00:28:44,320
assassination.
We covered that documentary on

510
00:28:44,320 –> 00:28:49,360
the last episode that came out
in fucking 73, so 4 years I.

511
00:28:50,280 –> 00:28:53,120
Mean hell, the pamphlet at the
Ronald Reagan Library came out

512
00:28:53,120 –> 00:28:55,640
the day after.
It came out the next day.

513
00:28:55,640 –> 00:28:58,640
And that had a lot of
interesting things in it.

514
00:28:58,760 –> 00:29:04,160
They had that queued up and
ready to go, which I still want

515
00:29:04,160 –> 00:29:06,920
someone to explain that shit to
me also.

516
00:29:07,080 –> 00:29:09,600
Be kind of like if Adam was
assassinated and the next day I

517
00:29:09,600 –> 00:29:12,720
had really nice RIP Adam Todd
Brown T-shirts for sale.

518
00:29:12,720 –> 00:29:14,840
It’s like, I wonder, I wonder if
Connor had something to.

519
00:29:16,400 –> 00:29:19,560
Yeah, just podcast ready to go.
All the fucking details.

520
00:29:20,040 –> 00:29:24,320
Yeah, man, I’ve I’ve gained
control of the RSS feed, so you

521
00:29:24,320 –> 00:29:28,680
know that that was good.
So what’s also crazy is that

522
00:29:28,680 –> 00:29:32,200
damn near every step of the way,
all the additional

523
00:29:32,200 –> 00:29:35,320
investigations, people looking
into this, they’ve all

524
00:29:35,320 –> 00:29:38,840
determined that there was
probably a second shooter.

525
00:29:39,080 –> 00:29:41,480
The only thing that points to
there being 1 shooter is they

526
00:29:41,480 –> 00:29:44,560
said there was.
Yeah, it’s literally just the

527
00:29:44,560 –> 00:29:46,720
government being like, Nope,
nothing to see here.

528
00:29:46,880 –> 00:29:49,160
It is just institutional gas
lighting.

529
00:29:49,440 –> 00:29:52,120
Yep, and a really good example
of that.

530
00:29:52,240 –> 00:29:58,520
In 1975, a judge in Los Angeles
convened a panel of seven

531
00:29:58,760 –> 00:30:03,120
forensic experts who examined 3
bullets from the shooting and

532
00:30:03,120 –> 00:30:08,280
compared them to bullets that
they test fired from the gun Sir

533
00:30:08,280 –> 00:30:12,400
Han Sir Han used.
And those bullets were not a

534
00:30:12,400 –> 00:30:18,640
match to Sir Han Sir Han’s gun,
which that alone you would think

535
00:30:18,720 –> 00:30:21,480
would have reopened this fucking
case.

536
00:30:21,680 –> 00:30:27,040
This 1975 investigation is also
the point in history when it was

537
00:30:27,040 –> 00:30:30,600
noticed that there were bullet
holes in the door frame in the

538
00:30:30,600 –> 00:30:34,080
kitchen and Sir Han Sir Han had
eight bullets.

539
00:30:34,240 –> 00:30:37,560
History would have us believe
three hit Kennedy, five hit

540
00:30:37,640 –> 00:30:40,120
other bystanders.
That accounts for his eight

541
00:30:40,120 –> 00:30:42,720
bullets.
So how did those bullets make it

542
00:30:42,720 –> 00:30:44,720
to the door frame?
And this is where that lead

543
00:30:44,720 –> 00:30:48,640
investigator comes into play.
His name’s Dwayne Wolfer, and he

544
00:30:48,640 –> 00:30:51,800
argued that the metal inside
those holes was not bullets.

545
00:30:52,000 –> 00:30:53,440
Be a good name for a competitive
eater.

546
00:30:53,440 –> 00:30:55,800
He’s the Wolfer.
He’s wolfing it down.

547
00:30:56,320 –> 00:30:59,600
And the door frames were
eventually destroyed.

548
00:30:59,760 –> 00:31:02,360
You know how you do with
historic door frames?

549
00:31:02,840 –> 00:31:05,000
Get him out of here.
They’re taking up space.

550
00:31:05,320 –> 00:31:07,760
Turn that shit.
Give Sir Han Sir Han’s gun to

551
00:31:07,760 –> 00:31:10,400
Raefer Johnson.
Take those door frames down.

552
00:31:10,760 –> 00:31:12,400
Let’s do some police.
Shit, you know what?

553
00:31:12,400 –> 00:31:14,600
Melt it down and make a statue
for Israel.

554
00:31:14,600 –> 00:31:17,280
I don’t care what, just as long
as it’s for them, you know?

555
00:31:17,280 –> 00:31:21,920
What just dawned on me, like
last night, Rosie Greer and

556
00:31:21,920 –> 00:31:25,680
Raefer Johnson were professional
athletes who were also very

557
00:31:25,720 –> 00:31:28,480
outspoken politically.
You think they were hoping they

558
00:31:28,480 –> 00:31:31,760
got shot too?
I don’t know, because Sir Han,

559
00:31:31,760 –> 00:31:34,800
Sir Han’s just shooting wildly.
You know, someone in the

560
00:31:34,800 –> 00:31:37,160
government was like, get that
fucking Greer guy.

561
00:31:37,320 –> 00:31:40,200
Like, while we’re at it, let’s
see if we can get Martin Luther

562
00:31:40,200 –> 00:31:42,520
King and everybody we don’t like
in there.

563
00:31:42,920 –> 00:31:45,560
Fucking.
Trifecta Noam Trotsky is here

564
00:31:45,560 –> 00:31:47,200
having a dinner with Robert F
Kennedy.

565
00:31:47,880 –> 00:31:52,560
This 1975 panel concluded that
Wolfer was sloppy in his

566
00:31:52,560 –> 00:31:55,880
investigation and that the case
should be reopened.

567
00:31:56,080 –> 00:31:59,440
And I just want to point out
that opinion is older than I am,

568
00:31:59,760 –> 00:32:02,600
so this is not conspiracy theory
shit.

569
00:32:02,760 –> 00:32:06,280
This is a judge and a bunch of
experts looking into this and

570
00:32:06,280 –> 00:32:09,680
being like reopen that shit
fucking 50 years ago.

571
00:32:09,880 –> 00:32:12,840
Yeah, it is crazy to call this a
conspiracy theory on some level

572
00:32:12,840 –> 00:32:15,320
when there is just such a deluge
of shit.

573
00:32:15,520 –> 00:32:18,840
Yeah, this.
I mean I feel like more than any

574
00:32:18,840 –> 00:32:21,920
other assassination this is the
one people should look at and be

575
00:32:21,920 –> 00:32:24,960
like God damn the government is
lying to us.

576
00:32:24,960 –> 00:32:28,160
This is kind of why you make all
conspiracy theories sound

577
00:32:28,160 –> 00:32:30,960
stupid, or you do everything you
can to enable conspiracy

578
00:32:30,960 –> 00:32:34,800
theories sounding stupid,
because it makes people ignorant

579
00:32:34,800 –> 00:32:38,000
and ignore details that are
relevant and actually

580
00:32:38,280 –> 00:32:40,080
substantive in the case like
this.

581
00:32:40,240 –> 00:32:42,600
Yeah.
That, I will always maintain is

582
00:32:42,600 –> 00:32:45,680
the most brilliant strategy.
I don’t know what you want to

583
00:32:45,680 –> 00:32:50,400
call it, but whoever decided oh
what we should do is stigmatize

584
00:32:50,400 –> 00:32:52,960
the phrase conspiracy theory,
then we don’t have to respond to

585
00:32:52,960 –> 00:32:56,520
shit then everything.
You just run it through Alex

586
00:32:56,520 –> 00:33:01,440
Jones, then it gets discredited,
which is that’s what tabloids

587
00:33:01,800 –> 00:33:04,680
do.
Also like tabloids a lot of

588
00:33:04,680 –> 00:33:07,400
times have a bunch of fake
bullshit in them.

589
00:33:07,600 –> 00:33:11,320
But also, like, the National
Enquirer probably did the best

590
00:33:11,320 –> 00:33:15,720
coverage of the OJ trial.
The National Enquirer solves the

591
00:33:15,720 –> 00:33:19,560
murder of Bill Cosby’s son.
Like, they published evidence

592
00:33:19,560 –> 00:33:22,120
and we’re like, it’s these guys.
And they were fucking right.

593
00:33:22,840 –> 00:33:27,200
Like that story was true.
And that’s one of the arguments

594
00:33:27,200 –> 00:33:30,080
or one of the things people
claim about tabloids is that

595
00:33:30,240 –> 00:33:33,800
they exist for that reason.
So when someone is selling a

596
00:33:33,800 –> 00:33:37,760
story, the New York Times can be
like, no, we’re not going to

597
00:33:37,760 –> 00:33:40,000
fuck with that.
And it gets kicked down to this

598
00:33:40,400 –> 00:33:43,360
outlet that people don’t trust.
And the writer is like, I guess

599
00:33:43,360 –> 00:33:45,040
if someone’s going to publish
it, that’s fine.

600
00:33:45,360 –> 00:33:47,520
And then it gets published by
the New York Post.

601
00:33:47,520 –> 00:33:49,200
And people are like, it’s the
New York Post.

602
00:33:49,360 –> 00:33:51,600
They’re like, smart.
It’s very smart.

603
00:33:51,680 –> 00:33:54,520
It is very smart.
It’s a good the system works.

604
00:33:54,920 –> 00:33:58,440
Yeah, yeah.
That’s the the phrase that that

605
00:33:58,440 –> 00:34:00,720
I heard from the book by by Jon
Ron.

606
00:34:00,720 –> 00:34:03,440
It’s either Jon Ronson or Ron
Johnson and I can never fucking

607
00:34:03,440 –> 00:34:04,320
remember.
I’m sorry.

608
00:34:04,800 –> 00:34:07,520
He wrote a great book called
them Adventures with Extremists

609
00:34:07,520 –> 00:34:09,840
and he spent time with all all
these people with different

610
00:34:09,840 –> 00:34:13,400
extreme beliefs.
He goes with the KKKS, with his

611
00:34:13,400 –> 00:34:16,320
Muslim fundamentalist leader in
the UK, and he spent some time

612
00:34:16,320 –> 00:34:18,360
with Alex Jones.
He actually goes to the Bohemian

613
00:34:18,360 –> 00:34:20,040
Grove with Alex Jones in this
book.

614
00:34:20,040 –> 00:34:23,360
It’s fucking fascinating.
But in the beginning he says, I

615
00:34:23,360 –> 00:34:25,280
think he might be a turd in the
punch bowl.

616
00:34:25,400 –> 00:34:29,600
He might be just someone that
they let do his thing to make

617
00:34:29,600 –> 00:34:33,679
the very medium he’s working in
less legitimate.

618
00:34:33,840 –> 00:34:39,000
That is also what Bill Cooper
said, the guy who wrote Behold A

619
00:34:39,000 –> 00:34:41,360
Pale Horse.
He said that exact thing he

620
00:34:41,360 –> 00:34:43,520
might have.
Been quoting Bill Cooper.

621
00:34:43,719 –> 00:34:46,880
Oh, maybe yeah.
But he was like, that guy is

622
00:34:46,880 –> 00:34:49,080
here to make us look like
fucking idiots.

623
00:34:49,639 –> 00:34:51,840
Yeah, yeah, because Alex Jones
is right.

624
00:34:51,920 –> 00:34:55,280
Every, not even every once in a
while, every, every, every 19

625
00:34:55,280 –> 00:34:56,000
things.
He’s right.

626
00:34:56,000 –> 00:34:58,680
You know, it’s like he’s, he
gets stuff right and has

627
00:34:58,720 –> 00:35:01,480
historically especially.
I don’t know if I can find the

628
00:35:01,480 –> 00:35:03,840
other thing, but have I ever
showed you this?

629
00:35:04,040 –> 00:35:05,000
No.
What’s that?

630
00:35:05,360 –> 00:35:06,640
Is it a?
Wax seal.

631
00:35:06,800 –> 00:35:12,760
That is, I bought a program from
I think right around the time

632
00:35:12,760 –> 00:35:17,600
George HW Bush was elected, but
it was a commemorative program

633
00:35:17,600 –> 00:35:20,480
from one of his appearances at
Bohemian Grove.

634
00:35:20,720 –> 00:35:23,760
Like Bohemian Grove.
You can buy Bohemian Grove shit

635
00:35:23,760 –> 00:35:26,240
on eBay.
Oh wow that’s cool.

636
00:35:26,440 –> 00:35:28,400
The fuck if I’ve been collecting
like an asshole?

637
00:35:29,240 –> 00:35:32,240
And I bought this like
announcement for George Bush

638
00:35:32,240 –> 00:35:36,600
appearing at Bohemian Grove and
when they sent it, it had this

639
00:35:36,600 –> 00:35:39,960
wax seal that is the Bohemian
Grove logo.

640
00:35:39,960 –> 00:35:42,360
That’s how the fucking envelope
was.

641
00:35:42,360 –> 00:35:45,800
Sealed.
And I have kept that shit.

642
00:35:46,000 –> 00:35:48,280
Your first appearance of
Bohemian Grove, that’s like,

643
00:35:48,280 –> 00:35:50,040
that’s like a deep state
quinceanera.

644
00:35:50,400 –> 00:35:54,280
You know, it’s when you really
come of age into your own, when

645
00:35:54,280 –> 00:35:58,120
you speak under Moloch’s wings.
Yeah, that’s the thing.

646
00:35:58,120 –> 00:36:01,120
Like we talk about all this shit
and we criticize it, but the

647
00:36:01,120 –> 00:36:04,480
second someones like you wanna
go to Bohemian Grove, I’m gonna

648
00:36:04,480 –> 00:36:06,520
go.
And here’s the fucked up part.

649
00:36:06,520 –> 00:36:10,800
I think they would like me.
Yeah, yeah, I probably that I

650
00:36:10,800 –> 00:36:12,760
could make a few friends.
Yeah.

651
00:36:12,760 –> 00:36:17,400
And so there are also this I
think came up in the 75

652
00:36:17,400 –> 00:36:21,000
investigation.
Also, there is a police memo out

653
00:36:21,000 –> 00:36:25,880
there that literally says
Kennedy and Weisel bullets not

654
00:36:25,880 –> 00:36:29,440
fired from same gun.
Weisel was the last name of an

655
00:36:29,440 –> 00:36:32,520
ABC News producer who was hit in
the shooting.

656
00:36:32,640 –> 00:36:37,360
Also that same memo also says
quote Kennedy bullet not fired

657
00:36:37,360 –> 00:36:40,080
from Sir Hans Revolver.
Conspiracy.

658
00:36:40,360 –> 00:36:42,600
Just another conspiracy theory
from the police.

659
00:36:43,520 –> 00:36:47,000
Police fucking lying about what
really happened, I mean.

660
00:36:47,280 –> 00:36:49,840
I mean they just want there to
be two shooters so they can

661
00:36:49,840 –> 00:36:52,560
spend more time not looking for
them eating Donuts.

662
00:36:53,440 –> 00:36:56,360
Making overtime fucking crooks.
Who’s the real crooks?

663
00:36:56,520 –> 00:36:57,800
That part’s actually probably
true.

664
00:36:57,800 –> 00:37:00,440
They probably were scamming.
They found some way to scam some

665
00:37:00,440 –> 00:37:01,840
overtime off this.
Come on, they’re cops.

666
00:37:01,840 –> 00:37:03,280
That’s what they do.
For sure.

667
00:37:03,480 –> 00:37:07,880
And just to add to the chorus of
voices who called for this

668
00:37:07,880 –> 00:37:11,280
investigation to be reopened
over the years, let’s talk about

669
00:37:11,280 –> 00:37:13,360
Paul Schrade.
He, at the time of the

670
00:37:13,360 –> 00:37:16,200
assassination, was the leader of
the United of the.

671
00:37:16,200 –> 00:37:18,120
Band at the David Letterman
Show.

672
00:37:18,320 –> 00:37:19,760
No, that’s fuck wrong.
Paul.

673
00:37:20,040 –> 00:37:25,040
Paul Schaefer.
Paul Schrade was shot in the God

674
00:37:25,040 –> 00:37:28,520
damn forehead during the RFK
assassin.

675
00:37:28,520 –> 00:37:32,320
Oh my God.
But he got shot with a 22 so it

676
00:37:32,320 –> 00:37:34,000
just lodged in his fucking
skull.

677
00:37:34,000 –> 00:37:36,840
That would at that point I’m
like just fucking kill me.

678
00:37:38,240 –> 00:37:40,920
Like ow.
What hurts more than a bullet

679
00:37:41,160 –> 00:37:43,720
not piercing your head?
That sounds awful.

680
00:37:44,000 –> 00:37:46,760
There is in the article we’ll
link too.

681
00:37:46,760 –> 00:37:49,760
There’s a picture of him sitting
in his hospital bed talking to

682
00:37:49,760 –> 00:37:53,600
reporters and the bandage around
his head is fucking nuts.

683
00:37:53,760 –> 00:37:55,800
No, I believe it.
He looks like goddamn

684
00:37:55,800 –> 00:37:59,080
Frankenstein, but he’s also just
sitting up in bed after having

685
00:37:59,080 –> 00:38:02,080
been shot in the head.
And yeah, the bullet just

686
00:38:02,080 –> 00:38:04,360
fractured his skull, didn’t
enter his brain.

687
00:38:04,560 –> 00:38:07,640
OK, he looks like he’s he looks
like he’s growing some kind of

688
00:38:07,640 –> 00:38:10,960
super brain that can read minds
underneath this giant bandage.

689
00:38:12,280 –> 00:38:15,400
And we met with reporters in his
hospital room.

690
00:38:15,760 –> 00:38:17,640
He said, quote, I didn’t see the
gunman.

691
00:38:17,760 –> 00:38:22,080
There could have been 1 or 10.
And in the years after that, he

692
00:38:22,080 –> 00:38:25,080
came to believe there were
definitely more shooters.

693
00:38:25,160 –> 00:38:28,400
This is a quote from Paul
Schrade speaking to The

694
00:38:28,400 –> 00:38:32,360
Washington Post in 2018.
Yes, he did shoot me.

695
00:38:32,480 –> 00:38:36,560
Yes, he shot four other people
and aimed at Kennedy.

696
00:38:36,680 –> 00:38:39,760
The important thing is he did
not shoot Robert Kennedy.

697
00:38:39,880 –> 00:38:41,920
Why didn’t they go after the
second gunman?

698
00:38:42,160 –> 00:38:44,600
End Quote.
He was so adamant about this.

699
00:38:44,600 –> 00:38:47,760
He tried suing the LAPD to try
and force them to release their

700
00:38:47,760 –> 00:38:49,480
files.
He lost in court.

701
00:38:49,680 –> 00:38:51,400
The LAPD fought that really
hard.

702
00:38:51,600 –> 00:38:56,120
And he then went on to become a
very vocal supporter of Sir Han,

703
00:38:56,120 –> 00:39:00,680
Sir Han’s quest to be paroled.
He attended Sir Han’s 15th

704
00:39:00,680 –> 00:39:04,080
parole hearing in 2016 and
according to The Associated

705
00:39:04,080 –> 00:39:07,080
Press, told him, quote, I should
have been here long ago.

706
00:39:07,280 –> 00:39:10,800
And that’s why I feel guilty for
not being here to help you and

707
00:39:10,800 –> 00:39:13,560
to help me.
And when Sir Han left the

708
00:39:13,560 –> 00:39:16,720
hearing, Shrade shouted.
Quote, I’m so sorry this is

709
00:39:16,720 –> 00:39:18,640
happening to you.
It’s my fault.

710
00:39:18,800 –> 00:39:21,480
And quote, I think he’s been a
little hard on himself.

711
00:39:21,480 –> 00:39:23,400
A.
Little bit, but he’s you could

712
00:39:23,400 –> 00:39:25,480
see he’s a sweet guy.
Yeah.

713
00:39:25,640 –> 00:39:29,480
And here’s the thing.
If you’re a skeptic, if you’re

714
00:39:29,480 –> 00:39:33,320
one of these people who, well,
all these other experts said

715
00:39:33,360 –> 00:39:36,320
that it’s not real, this guy was
in the room.

716
00:39:36,560 –> 00:39:39,320
He is one of the people who got
fucking shot.

717
00:39:39,480 –> 00:39:41,360
He’s a witness.
He was there.

718
00:39:41,520 –> 00:39:44,200
You have to believe him.
He witnessed that shit with his

719
00:39:44,200 –> 00:39:47,280
face.
Yeah, you got to take his word

720
00:39:47,280 –> 00:39:50,360
into account more than some fuck
face in the UK who was like.

721
00:39:50,720 –> 00:39:53,080
Sounds like only seven shots to
me mate.

722
00:39:53,640 –> 00:39:57,680
Like stay out of it.
I I I put it in FL Studio and I

723
00:39:57,680 –> 00:39:59,920
couldn’t find any more than 7
impacts.

724
00:40:00,920 –> 00:40:04,600
Like mind your business, this is
USA business.

725
00:40:04,960 –> 00:40:08,440
Sir, I get a fucking United
Kingdom out of here.

726
00:40:08,640 –> 00:40:12,600
Later in life, Paul Schrade was
instrumental in the success of a

727
00:40:12,600 –> 00:40:15,320
campaign to build a school at
the former site of the

728
00:40:15,320 –> 00:40:18,560
Ambassador Hotel.
Robert F Kennedy Schools complex

729
00:40:18,560 –> 00:40:21,840
opened in 2010.
Most expensive school built in

730
00:40:21,840 –> 00:40:24,200
the US at the time, $600
million.

731
00:40:24,960 –> 00:40:27,160
The library is named after Paul
Schrade.

732
00:40:27,880 –> 00:40:29,960
Isn’t that nice?
Yeah, good for him.

733
00:40:30,560 –> 00:40:34,120
I I would argue worth getting
shot in the forehead to have a

734
00:40:34,120 –> 00:40:37,360
library at a fucking school in
LA named after you.

735
00:40:37,640 –> 00:40:40,320
I mean, he lived to be like 97,
you know, I think he did all he

736
00:40:40,480 –> 00:40:42,120
did, OK.
Yeah, he did.

737
00:40:42,240 –> 00:40:46,960
He died very recently, I think
2022, something like that and.

738
00:40:47,240 –> 00:40:49,520
And he still sounded better than
RFK Junior.

739
00:40:50,000 –> 00:40:53,160
Yeah, hell yeah.
He sounds better than RFK Junior

740
00:40:53,160 –> 00:40:55,000
now.
Yeah, probably does.

741
00:40:55,200 –> 00:41:02,640
So in 2013, the FBI did what the
FBI does, and they entered this

742
00:41:02,640 –> 00:41:07,200
fray and issued a report of
examination that actually

743
00:41:07,200 –> 00:41:10,600
contradicted all the experts on
every side.

744
00:41:10,760 –> 00:41:14,760
They said the tape was quote of
insufficient quality to

745
00:41:14,760 –> 00:41:18,880
definitively classify the
impulse events as gunshots,

746
00:41:19,080 –> 00:41:23,280
confirm the number of gunshots,
or determine the identification

747
00:41:23,280 –> 00:41:25,840
of specific weapons.
End Quote.

748
00:41:26,000 –> 00:41:29,600
Bill van Prague says they used
antiquated technology to reach

749
00:41:29,600 –> 00:41:33,280
those findings and that they
also never reached out to him

750
00:41:33,480 –> 00:41:35,280
about his findings.
What are you talking about?

751
00:41:35,320 –> 00:41:37,920
They used the best programs that
Windows 98 could run.

752
00:41:38,360 –> 00:41:41,920
Yeah, they listened to it
through high quality headphones.

753
00:41:42,160 –> 00:41:44,920
Very these were these were skull
candy earbuds.

754
00:41:44,920 –> 00:41:49,720
They were very good beats.
By Dre on ear headphones OK

755
00:41:50,520 –> 00:41:54,480
studio Brad Johnson, the CNN
reporter who first found this

756
00:41:54,480 –> 00:41:58,520
tape, said, quote, the bureau’s
examination was incomplete and

757
00:41:58,520 –> 00:42:02,600
its report was inconclusive and
added it doesn’t rise to the

758
00:42:02,600 –> 00:42:05,960
level of the FBI in doing
serious work.

759
00:42:06,000 –> 00:42:09,320
They phoned it in without
picking up the phone and calling

760
00:42:09,320 –> 00:42:12,480
Van Prague.
That is crazy that they didn’t

761
00:42:12,480 –> 00:42:15,640
reach out to this guy at least.
Yeah, ’cause like it.

762
00:42:15,720 –> 00:42:19,120
If nothing else, it’s like hey
Mr. Debunker, debunk his fucking

763
00:42:19,120 –> 00:42:22,160
shit then look at what he didn’t
debunk it then you fucker.

764
00:42:22,160 –> 00:42:24,920
Like, if you’re all about
debunking shit, take a look at

765
00:42:24,920 –> 00:42:28,400
it, bitch.
And I think all of that is just,

766
00:42:28,600 –> 00:42:32,640
it’s so obvious that there is a
cover up here, but it’s been so

767
00:42:32,640 –> 00:42:35,040
long that what the fuck’s ever
going to come of it?

768
00:42:35,160 –> 00:42:38,880
I mean, the best chance we have
of this being reopened.

769
00:42:39,040 –> 00:42:42,240
I know RFK being, oh, yeah.
In the White House.

770
00:42:42,360 –> 00:42:43,800
RFK junior.
Yep.

771
00:42:43,960 –> 00:42:48,880
It’s strange Bedfellows Are We
Conspiracy, The Show and RFK

772
00:42:48,880 –> 00:42:50,680
Junior.
That’s right, yeah.

773
00:42:50,680 –> 00:42:53,360
We are on the same page about
exactly one thing.

774
00:42:54,240 –> 00:42:58,440
And RFK Junior has a sister who
is.

775
00:42:58,480 –> 00:43:01,400
Is she hot?
No, no, she’s a, she’s a Kennedy

776
00:43:01,400 –> 00:43:03,960
Connor.
Only the men are hot.

777
00:43:04,200 –> 00:43:08,560
She also thinks her dad was
killed by someone other than Sir

778
00:43:08,560 –> 00:43:09,240
Han.
Sir Han.

779
00:43:09,240 –> 00:43:11,960
So it’s not just the crazy
Kennedy kids.

780
00:43:12,320 –> 00:43:16,160
Because she’s like a what a God
damn it, Did I not put her?

781
00:43:16,480 –> 00:43:18,280
I can find it.
I’m good at research.

782
00:43:18,840 –> 00:43:21,320
Kerry Kennedy or Kathleen
Kennedy?

783
00:43:21,320 –> 00:43:26,720
Kathleen Kennedy Townsend, who
is she was Lieutenant governor

784
00:43:26,720 –> 00:43:31,200
of Maryland from 95 to 2003, ran
for governor of Maryland in

785
00:43:31,200 –> 00:43:34,920
2002.
She also does not think Sir Han.

786
00:43:34,920 –> 00:43:40,120
Sir Han killed her father.
So it’s not just RFK Junior that

787
00:43:40,120 –> 00:43:41,760
thinks there’s something weird
here.

788
00:43:41,760 –> 00:43:46,560
He thinks it was the CIA, which
that’s got to be uncomfortable

789
00:43:46,560 –> 00:43:49,680
being the CIA showing up to a
meeting with R&K Junior these

790
00:43:49,680 –> 00:43:51,000
days.
Yeah, right.

791
00:43:51,520 –> 00:43:52,880
So what do you want to talk
about?

792
00:43:52,880 –> 00:43:54,760
It’s like.
Your dad killed his dad.

793
00:43:55,280 –> 00:43:58,600
Yeah.
Your fucking nepotism dad killed

794
00:43:58,600 –> 00:44:01,680
his nepotism dad and now you’re
still here in the halls of

795
00:44:01,680 –> 00:44:05,200
power, just awkwardly avoiding.
Each other got to have an

796
00:44:05,200 –> 00:44:09,280
awkward sit down with Ted Cruz.
I know what your dad did.

797
00:44:09,600 –> 00:44:11,800
Zodiac killer Ted Cruz.
Yeah, exactly.

798
00:44:12,040 –> 00:44:15,960
So yeah, it, I mean, that is
kind of the boat we’re in.

799
00:44:16,240 –> 00:44:18,040
A broken clock is right twice a
day.

800
00:44:18,040 –> 00:44:22,240
I absolutely agree with RFK
Junior that this should fucking

801
00:44:22,240 –> 00:44:25,040
be reopened.
We have We thank you for your

802
00:44:25,040 –> 00:44:29,240
support, Adam, and we appreciate
define journalism you doing at

803
00:44:29,240 –> 00:44:32,160
the program.
That’s too melodious.

804
00:44:32,160 –> 00:44:34,160
I can’t make my voice sound bad
enough.

805
00:44:34,440 –> 00:44:36,040
Yeah, I got to start.
Smoking again?

806
00:44:36,520 –> 00:44:38,760
You got to like in and out and
talk.

807
00:44:40,360 –> 00:44:42,440
That’s going cash the car.
It comes through.

808
00:44:44,040 –> 00:44:46,280
Aw man, RFK junior, that fucking
guy.

809
00:44:46,320 –> 00:44:49,800
I still want to know why there
is a memo about tetanus

810
00:44:49,800 –> 00:44:52,800
vaccinations in the middle of
these RFK files.

811
00:44:53,280 –> 00:44:55,720
I still have not found an
explanation for that.

812
00:44:55,960 –> 00:44:58,520
I would not rule out sheer
negligence.

813
00:45:00,080 –> 00:45:04,520
Where the vaccine industry
killed RFK junior on some time

814
00:45:04,520 –> 00:45:06,880
travel shit.
They just haven’t done RFK

815
00:45:07,080 –> 00:45:09,320
knowing all right.
It’s very complicated.

816
00:45:09,480 –> 00:45:12,080
They tried to kill him by
killing RFK, but they didn’t go

817
00:45:12,080 –> 00:45:14,440
back in time far enough.
He’s already had the kid.

818
00:45:15,200 –> 00:45:18,200
Yeah, just sloppy research.
Not born yet, right?

819
00:45:18,200 –> 00:45:20,120
Kill him now.
You’re the worst.

820
00:45:20,120 –> 00:45:24,720
Looper we have ever hired.
So yeah, this will probably

821
00:45:24,720 –> 00:45:26,640
never be reopened, but it should
be.

822
00:45:26,720 –> 00:45:29,160
It absolutely should be.
Real heads know what’s up.

823
00:45:29,280 –> 00:45:31,400
I mean it’s it’s it’s like
Epstein.

824
00:45:31,400 –> 00:45:34,440
He’s fucking Mossad.
We know you know, it’s like this

825
00:45:34,440 –> 00:45:37,320
was the this was the goddamn
people that got the other

826
00:45:37,320 –> 00:45:40,080
Kennedy.
I mean it, it’s not that

827
00:45:40,080 –> 00:45:43,160
mysterious any when you look at
all this shit really, is it?

828
00:45:43,160 –> 00:45:45,640
You know, I mean the fucking
guys that were trying to get rid

829
00:45:45,640 –> 00:45:48,760
of all the secret societies that
they said so in the speeches and

830
00:45:48,760 –> 00:45:50,600
then the secret societies kill
them.

831
00:45:50,600 –> 00:45:54,240
I mean, it’s if you feel like a
loon repeating it over and over

832
00:45:54,240 –> 00:45:56,400
again, but it’s like, fuck, I
mean, what do you want from me?

833
00:45:56,640 –> 00:46:00,280
This is like the fucking if JFK
is the hydrogen of conspiracy

834
00:46:00,280 –> 00:46:01,840
theories, then this is the
helium.

835
00:46:02,080 –> 00:46:04,760
It’s it’s right.
It’s the very fundamental on the

836
00:46:04,760 –> 00:46:08,760
periodic chart.
And if you think about, OK, so

837
00:46:08,760 –> 00:46:13,360
let’s say the same group of
people who killed JFK killed

838
00:46:13,360 –> 00:46:17,480
RFK, If you think about them
constantly after this happened,

839
00:46:17,480 –> 00:46:20,320
people were saying, well, we
don’t want another JFK.

840
00:46:20,320 –> 00:46:23,440
We don’t want another Dallas
situation where people have all

841
00:46:23,440 –> 00:46:26,040
these questions.
It makes all the sense in the

842
00:46:26,040 –> 00:46:30,040
world to do it in a small room
with a bunch of witnesses.

843
00:46:30,240 –> 00:46:34,200
So everyone can be like that guy
Sir Han, Sir Han, he was the one

844
00:46:34,200 –> 00:46:37,280
shooting, obviously, because
then you would think, well,

845
00:46:37,280 –> 00:46:38,800
we’re not going to have any
questions.

846
00:46:39,000 –> 00:46:42,680
But then you shoot RFK right
behind the fucking ear.

847
00:46:42,720 –> 00:46:45,840
That’s where they fucked up.
Like I think they just fucked

848
00:46:45,840 –> 00:46:48,680
up.
Like whoever shot RFK should

849
00:46:48,680 –> 00:46:53,360
have done it from a little more
of a distance and instead shot

850
00:46:53,360 –> 00:46:56,360
him in the fucking head
execution style.

851
00:46:56,480 –> 00:46:58,920
And Sir Han, Sir Han just never
got that close.

852
00:46:59,120 –> 00:47:04,440
So I think they just fucked up.
And they very successfully

853
00:47:04,440 –> 00:47:07,360
shoved the narrative through.
Yeah, I say they fucked up, but

854
00:47:07,360 –> 00:47:09,760
they got away with it.
Yeah, yeah, they.

855
00:47:10,120 –> 00:47:13,720
Achieved their aims.
But like conspiracy the show

856
00:47:13,720 –> 00:47:16,680
listeners, don’t let them ever
tell you that they didn’t fuck

857
00:47:16,680 –> 00:47:20,640
up, OK?
Like like, remember all the shit

858
00:47:20,640 –> 00:47:22,080
you heard?
Like it was weird.

859
00:47:22,080 –> 00:47:24,760
You were right to think so.
Yeah, yeah, this is.

860
00:47:25,000 –> 00:47:28,680
This one’s so obvious and I’m
sure we’ll do other RFK

861
00:47:28,880 –> 00:47:32,720
episodes, but I am, I’m so
fucking I I was convinced before

862
00:47:32,880 –> 00:47:36,000
I looked at all these files, but
now there’s just so much in

863
00:47:36,000 –> 00:47:38,120
there.
There’s throughout history, we

864
00:47:38,120 –> 00:47:43,160
have 6 decades worth of people
looking into this case and being

865
00:47:43,160 –> 00:47:46,160
like there was another shooter
and this needs to be reopened.

866
00:47:46,280 –> 00:47:50,320
And it’s not conspiracy
theorists, it’s fucking cops.

867
00:47:50,360 –> 00:47:52,480
It’s judges.
It’s it’s.

868
00:47:52,480 –> 00:47:54,640
The family of the fucking
victim.

869
00:47:55,160 –> 00:47:57,800
Family of the victim, CNN
reporters.

870
00:47:58,000 –> 00:48:01,000
Everyone who looks into this
shit is like there were two

871
00:48:01,000 –> 00:48:04,360
people shooting and the only
people who say there weren’t are

872
00:48:04,360 –> 00:48:07,680
the government and the cops.
Everyone else seems pretty

873
00:48:07,680 –> 00:48:09,920
convinced.
You mean my dad, the government

874
00:48:09,920 –> 00:48:11,960
and the cops?
But I love them.

875
00:48:13,040 –> 00:48:15,280
Exactly.
They keep me safe.

876
00:48:16,440 –> 00:48:19,560
So yeah, I don’t know what the
next episode will be about.

877
00:48:19,640 –> 00:48:21,800
I’m going to dig back into the
files, and we’re not going to

878
00:48:21,840 –> 00:48:24,800
make every episode about RFK,
but we fucking could.

879
00:48:24,840 –> 00:48:26,840
Clearly.
Yeah, we definitely could.

880
00:48:27,040 –> 00:48:30,200
There’s enough.
And I haven’t even looked at the

881
00:48:30,200 –> 00:48:34,160
JFK files but.
On the next episode, RF Gay,

882
00:48:34,280 –> 00:48:39,040
what was he?
But a friend of mine texted me

883
00:48:39,040 –> 00:48:43,120
about the JFK files and was
like, so it says Lee Harvey

884
00:48:43,120 –> 00:48:45,160
Oswald was CIA.
It says that, huh?

885
00:48:45,640 –> 00:48:48,840
That’s quite a revelation that’s
in there.

886
00:48:48,920 –> 00:48:52,920
Like how does that not on the
nightly news every fucking day

887
00:48:52,920 –> 00:48:54,520
right now?
Yeah, really.

888
00:48:54,520 –> 00:48:56,160
Do we just not give a fuck
anymore?

889
00:48:56,160 –> 00:48:58,920
Does it have to be like a
gorilla juggling or something?

890
00:48:58,920 –> 00:49:02,160
You were, you know, and AI
grandma selling you jewelry Like

891
00:49:02,160 –> 00:49:06,040
is, is everything just horrible.
I think it’s the same as all

892
00:49:06,040 –> 00:49:09,720
those UFO videos that the
government keeps trying to show

893
00:49:09,720 –> 00:49:12,040
us and we’re like, are they
going to get Trump out of

894
00:49:12,040 –> 00:49:14,600
office?
Do they have a COVID vaccine if

895
00:49:14,880 –> 00:49:17,880
they make free energy?
So that we can fucking stop with

896
00:49:17,880 –> 00:49:22,320
this paradigm of oil and war.
Yeah, can they give me a ride to

897
00:49:22,320 –> 00:49:24,880
work because I can’t afford gas?
Then?

898
00:49:24,880 –> 00:49:26,600
No, I don’t give a shit about
UFOs.

899
00:49:26,840 –> 00:49:29,080
Can they at least do that thing
that they did at Scandia where

900
00:49:29,080 –> 00:49:31,480
they’d spin really fast and it
would stick me to the walls with

901
00:49:31,480 –> 00:49:33,800
centrifugal force ’cause I would
settle for that?

902
00:49:34,960 –> 00:49:37,880
And I think it’s kind of the
same thing here, like this is

903
00:49:37,880 –> 00:49:41,120
the perfect time to release
these fucking files because it

904
00:49:41,120 –> 00:49:43,760
is absolute chaos in this
country right now.

905
00:49:43,920 –> 00:49:46,240
You know what I’m thinking about
something I used to bring up on

906
00:49:46,240 –> 00:49:48,840
Conspiracy the show all the
time, which was the definition

907
00:49:48,880 –> 00:49:53,280
of propaganda that I like so
much, which was that which seeks

908
00:49:53,280 –> 00:49:56,360
to exhaust critical thinking and
annihilate the truth.

909
00:49:57,000 –> 00:49:59,560
And there’s just so much goddamn
news now.

910
00:49:59,560 –> 00:50:03,120
It’s like it’s nobody fucking
has time to surround and come up

911
00:50:03,120 –> 00:50:06,280
with an informed opinion about
whatever the fuck, you know,

912
00:50:06,440 –> 00:50:10,640
like you’re you’re demanded to
have an opinion RFK with the

913
00:50:10,640 –> 00:50:13,440
whale and every you know, that’s
every 5 seconds there’s a new

914
00:50:13,440 –> 00:50:15,400
thing.
So yeah, I mean, of course shit

915
00:50:15,400 –> 00:50:18,680
like this gets slipped through
the cracks, I guess the phrase.

916
00:50:18,880 –> 00:50:23,440
And I feel like there was a time
in history where these files

917
00:50:23,440 –> 00:50:26,760
being released would have been a
thing the news outlets of the

918
00:50:26,760 –> 00:50:29,480
world would have actually like.
In like 97.

919
00:50:29,480 –> 00:50:32,760
Yeah, for sure.
Yeah, or like seventies, 80s,

920
00:50:32,840 –> 00:50:36,240
any of that when motherfuckers
were doing actual journalism.

921
00:50:36,440 –> 00:50:40,240
Yeah, pretty much any time when
Hunter S Thompson still had his

922
00:50:40,240 –> 00:50:42,000
mental faculties, it would have
been game on.

923
00:50:42,280 –> 00:50:44,920
Yeah, yeah.
Back when people were actually

924
00:50:44,920 –> 00:50:47,680
challenging the government in
the media.

925
00:50:47,880 –> 00:50:50,840
But that ship has sailed.
So now you just got me in

926
00:50:50,840 –> 00:50:51,800
Connor.
Sorry.

927
00:50:51,880 –> 00:50:54,160
Yeah, I know now.
Now it’s just like now.

928
00:50:54,160 –> 00:50:56,880
Now everything’s a big fun
contest of who’s the best at

929
00:50:56,880 –> 00:50:58,600
sucking up to the government.
Yeah.

930
00:50:59,240 –> 00:51:01,240
Yeah, it sure is.
Buy this meme coin.

931
00:51:01,720 –> 00:51:05,040
Retweet and this is this is our
way to suck up to the government

932
00:51:05,040 –> 00:51:08,360
without really doing it because.
The government of China, maybe?

933
00:51:09,840 –> 00:51:13,640
So that’s our episode.
Connor, thank you so much for

934
00:51:13,640 –> 00:51:17,480
doing the pod, as always.
What do we have to plug before

935
00:51:17,480 –> 00:51:20,040
we get out of here?
Follow me on blue sky, I guess

936
00:51:20,160 –> 00:51:22,040
Adam top brown dot B sky dot
social.

937
00:51:22,840 –> 00:51:24,920
What do you got to plug?
Well, you know, if you want to

938
00:51:24,920 –> 00:51:27,840
see my less serious side, you
can watch my comedy special live

939
00:51:27,840 –> 00:51:32,320
in Tucson on youtube.com, Connor
Mcspadden’s channel, Very Funny

940
00:51:32,320 –> 00:51:36,120
Stuff, and listen to my comedy
podcast, Mean Boys, a cavalcade

941
00:51:36,120 –> 00:51:41,120
of comedy fun with sketches,
monologue jokes, games and more.

942
00:51:42,120 –> 00:51:43,160
Yeah.
It’s very fun.

943
00:51:43,280 –> 00:51:45,920
I’ve been on it before and I
think that’s it.

944
00:51:45,920 –> 00:51:48,360
Let’s get the fuck out of here.
Connor, say goodbye.

945
00:51:48,560 –> 00:51:50,680
Goodbye.
Goodbye everybody, we love you.