Conspiracy! The Show 323: The Unabomber Manifesto

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Hey everybody, welcome to

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Conspiracy the Show.
I’m your host, Adam Todd Brown

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joining me as Co host this week.
Connor’s back.

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How’s it going?
Man?

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Doing good.
Also joining us, we had a guest

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this week, Dave Waits here.
Dave, how’s it going?

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Hey man, how you doing?
Good to be here.

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And we are talking about some
shit.

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Me and Connor threatened to do
this episode a few weeks ago,

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and now we are following through
on that threat.

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We’re talking about the
Unabomber manifesto, which I had

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never read despite hating the
government vehemently.

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And I had always heard it was
good and just kind of assumed it

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was good, and I’d heard the same
summary of it that everyone else

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has.
But when you dig a little

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deeper, it’s pretty bad shit.
Yeah, it’s not good.

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It’s not good at all.
Dave, had you ever read it

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before this?
Now I had watched, I watched a

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couple years ago there was a
show it was called Manhunt, not

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not to be confused with
Manhunters on Netflix.

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This was like a.
Or man tracker on A&E.

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Yeah, I think it’s A&E, right?
Man tracker’s a whole different

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show.
It’s just about a a man who

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tracks other men.
But it had Sam Worthington,

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which in my mind I can’t
separate him and Eric Bana.

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They are maybe the same guy.
They’re both mid.

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They’re mid as fuck.
And then I, Paul Bettany was Ted

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Kaczynski, which, you know, he’s
a good actor.

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I like him.
That was the first time I really

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had a deep dive in the Ted
Kaczynski world.

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Yeah, I wasn’t super familiar.
I feel like I maybe did watch

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Manhunt, but I also feel like I
might have been like super duper

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high and I just don’t remember
it, but I feel like I watched

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it.
But I’m the same.

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I had heard for years and years
and years that man the Unabomber

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Manifesto.
It really is a better read than

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you would expect, and I
disagree.

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I think it’s pretty fucking
stupid.

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It’s the subject of one of my
favorite Drew Michael jokes.

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He he says, what do you do when
you read the Unabomber manifesto

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and you find out it’s pretty
good?

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You know, it’s uncomfortable,
you know, to be that guy at the

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party who’s like, hey, well, you
know, he should really read his

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Ted Kaczynski stuff, the early
stuff.

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And now I got to now I got to
wonder if Drew Drew Michael even

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finished it, because I don’t
think he’s a white supremacist.

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Yeah, that’s the thing.
It gets really white supremacy

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pretty quick.
Even the opening I found kind of

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stupid where he’s talking about
how and we’re getting way ahead

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because I do want to talk about
some of the bombings also, but

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it just came off to me.
Sometimes people are too smart

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to realize how dumb they sound.
And I think that’s kind of

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what’s going on with the
Unabomber manifesto.

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This dude is just so high level
intelligent that he doesn’t

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realize he’s just spitting like
white supremacist word salad at

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us.
This is like the guy that the

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phrase lost in the sauce was
invented to describe.

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He is so lost in his own sauce
that he forgets his 1/2 good

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idea about the industrialization
and completely just spins out

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into these.
Just like thought fractals.

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I don’t even know how to
describe them, it’s almost

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unreadable.
Yeah, even the ideas in it that

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are good are just like kind of
the most basic talking points.

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Like he gets into AI at one
point and it’s like, Oh yeah, no

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shit AI is going to take our
jobs.

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Didn’t need to go to fucking MIT
to learn that, pal.

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Like everyone fucking knows
that.

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Yeah, my 8 year old neighbor
could have told me that.

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I did this joke recently.
If you end up writing a

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manifesto and you’re also
pooping in a bucket, maybe you

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need to go back to the
manifesto.

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And maybe, maybe the ideas
aren’t that great.

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If you got a poop bucket, your
manifesto probably isn’t cutting

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the snuff, you know?
That should be an official

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conspiracy to show.
Rule of thumb is the poop bucket

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rule.
Yeah, if you got jars of pee

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around your room, you’re not
ready to be published.

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You don’t know how to fix the
universe.

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It’s not time to be peer
reviewed.

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So let’s talk about some of the
bombings.

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The first bomb was found May
25th, 1978.

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It was left on the campus of the
University of Illinois at

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Chicago, but with a Northwestern
University return address.

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So someone picked it up and
returned it to Northwestern and

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it exploded there causing minor
damage.

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Fun sidebar, when my father
died, he was at University of

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Illinois at Chicago Hospital and
one night me and my sister were

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getting ready to go back to our
hotel and we were like yeah so

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we’re just going to walk back to
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And the nurses were like no, you
are not going to fucking walk to

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that hotel.
So we took a three block cab

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ride to our hotel from the
University of Illinois Chicago

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because it was in a treacherous
neighborhood that I’m sure has

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been fucking steamrolled and
gentrified by now.

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Adam, I thought you said this
fact would be fun.

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I’m scared.
So there was another bomb placed

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in a room at Northwestern a year
later, May 9th, 1979.

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Really foreshadowing his hatred
of professors.

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Yeah, he did seem to have it out
for professor types, which even

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in manifesto it doesn’t really
tie into his problems with

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industrialization.
Not really.

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It’s it reads much more like an
Adam Corolla, Dennis Prager,

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like, like fucking indictment of
safe spaces than anything.

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Yeah, that and this guy really
wants you to have to fight for

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your food, which I don’t know,
this feels like the government

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wrote it.
Getting ahead of ourselves.

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You think the government wrote
the Unabomber manifesto?

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There’s actually a hidden.
I mean, it reads to me like the

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anti communist manifesto a
little bit.

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It’s more like, man, if anyone
ever does anything to help you,

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you’re going to be profoundly
unhappy for the rest of your

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life.
It’s like that’s not true.

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Yeah, he wants like a government
that’s so small as just like 8

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dudes with big sticks and big
beards.

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Yeah, going.
No way.

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Just the military.
Well, he doesn’t really

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understand.
Like, you know, I guess he wants

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some sort of anarchism, but
maybe I guess more

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libertarianism, right, And then
he very anti socialization.

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But if you know, if you’re his
whole thing is he thinks, you

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know, technology is ruining the
environment, right, a lot of it.

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But if you want people to go
back to hunter and gatherers, I

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mean, hunter gatherer societies
are all about socialization and

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and people being together.
You know, he he’s putting his

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own fucked up bullshit of being
a guy in the woods and being

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like everybody should be a guy
in the woods to get you know,

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like that’s not a functional
society.

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That’s not what what we should
be striving for is all living in

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a woods, hooping in a bucket,
man.

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Yeah, and a lot of what’s in
this manifesto, a lot of it

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starts coming down to, well,
there’s not really anything we

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can do about this.
And it’s like, well then what

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the fuck are we even talking
about?

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Yeah, listen to how right I am.
Who Bucket press wouldn’t take

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this so I’m going to terrorist
it into the fucking newspaper.

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Oh yeah, there’s a quote later
on that we’ll get to about what

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would happen if he didn’t kill
people and how no one would read

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this.
It’s like, yeah, no shit.

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Dude, yeah, the surprising
moments of self-awareness are

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almost make it worse.
It’s a real shame sub stack

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wasn’t available back then.
We could have, probably.

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He could have had his 50
subscribers with a nice little

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echo chamber and that would have
been that.

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Yeah, save some lives.
There was like a long period of

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my life where I thought he was
called the Unabomber because he

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was like a solo bomber.
And then I, me too, realized,

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yeah, that it was an acronym.
Yeah, I didn’t.

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I, I think I didn’t realize
until researching this episode

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where the name Unabomber came
from.

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And it’s so boring.
It’s just the FBI’s naming

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convention.
UNA meant United Airlines, BOM

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meant bomb and people just added
or at the end.

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I thought it was university and
airline bomber, is that not

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right?
The bombs placed at Northwestern

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University, there was another
one placed there a year later,

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May 9th, 1979.
And then later that year another

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bomb that was inside a piece of
mail in the cargo section of an

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American Airlines flight
exploded.

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And that’s the one that got the
FBI involved.

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And when they open their case
file, it was United Airlines

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bomb.
And then they realized all of

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those four bombings were
connected.

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So that’s when I, I think if
they just called him the

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Unabomber, I don’t know.
We got to get the FBI on the pod

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to clarify.
Yeah, I think it’s kind of more

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fun if it was just he’s the
Unabomber because he’s the

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loneliest guy that ever lived.
Yeah, yeah.

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You know it works too well.
Yeah, it ended up being a very

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fitting name for sure.
I mean, if yeah, if he just

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socialized a little bit more, we
probably wouldn’t.

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Yeah.
But we should call that, we

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should call that guy in London
from a couple years ago the unit

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stabber, just because he was a
solo stabber.

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Was Ted Kaczynski the the 1st in
cell?

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Was he the patient zero of?
I mean, I’m sure there was

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others, but he was kind of ahead
of the curve.

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Yeah, a little bit.
I’m surprised there’s not more

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misogyny in this.
He just, he doesn’t talk about

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women much at all.
And I think it’s because he just

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kind of sees white dudes as
important.

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This is like yet another great
reminder that we should legalize

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and unionize sex work in this
country because I think that

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this could have been avoided
very easily.

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Three hand jobs and this guy
just would have had a blog.

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A couple rubbing tucks and he’d
have been.

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He would have seen his own
humanity.

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Oh, OK.
So June 3rd, 1980, Percy Wood,

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president of United Airlines,
gets a letter saying he’d soon

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be receiving a book of social
significance in the mail right

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there.
I’d have been like someone

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called the FBI.
What the fuck is this supposed

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to mean?
No one mails you a letter and

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says you’re going to get
something in the mail.

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Like announcing a letter.
Announcing another letter that

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is.
That is definitely a pooping and

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bucket move.
Yeah, and that’s softening you

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up so you’re more willing to
open this strange fucking book

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that someone sent you out of
nowhere.

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Also, what a fucking up your own
ass way to describe your little

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fucking blog.
A book of social significance.

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He even made the acronym BOSS.
The book he I ended up sending

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him was called Ice Brothers by
someone named Sloane Wilson.

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I wonder.
I didn’t bother looking up what

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that is about.
There must be some symbolism

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there.
I forgot that this was a

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different book.
That’s right.

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I thought it was one of the
worst Super Smash Bros

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characters.
So it wasn’t a book.

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No, it was hollowed out, had a
bomb in it.

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I mean, that’s fun we besides
killing people, but I love I

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love a hollowed out book with
something in it that gets me

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every time in a movie.
It’s very Looney Tunes, you

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know?
Remember that story?

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Probably 10-15 years ago now?
Some obsessed fan of Bjork got

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mad that she married a black
dude and tried mailing her a

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book bomb.
And what I remember about it is

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he also shot himself after he
did it.

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But he filmed all of it.
Like he filmed himself making

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the bomb.
He filmed himself killing

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himself.
Yeah, I remember seeing footage

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of that guy.
I mean he was a fucking real nut

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bar.
Yeah, he had like Darth Maul

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makeup on.
It was fucking.

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Weird.
Oh my God, how who’s a who’s a

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who’s a redneck Bjork fan?
Where did?

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How did that happen?
Yeah, who’s that much of A Bjork

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fan in general?
I I like the weirdest music I

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could find.
I could barely get into Bjork.

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Same.
Except for the album where Death

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Grips put Bjork samples into an
electronic drum kit and then

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just played the drum kit to make
all the beats.

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So it was just different Bjork
samples.

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That’s fun.
That’s my favorite Bjork album

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is N Words on the Moon by Death
Grips.

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So yeah, Unabom.
That’s how the Unabomber name

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was born.
He finally succeeded in killing

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someone December 11th, 1985.
That’s the thing, Unabomber only

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put up three deaths, sent 16
bombs, killed three people.

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So not an effective bomber I
would say.

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Less than 20%.
Yeah, if someone opens a bomb

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right in their face and it
doesn’t kill them, what are you

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doing?
Yeah, really.

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I mean, it’s just that’s just
kind of a seems like it must be

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a low payload or you or how
about this Unabomber use a

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bigger book?
Yeah.

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What about the Bible?
Yeah.

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Was The Beatles Anthology out by
this point?

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I don’t know.
I got a book about the clash

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upstairs that could take out 2-3
Senators.

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It’s so big.
So December 11th, 1985, computer

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rental store owner Hugh Scranton
bent over to pick up a package

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that was on the ground behind a
store and it exploded and killed

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him.
This.

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I don’t know why I didn’t put
where it happened, but I’m

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pretty sure that one was in
California.

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Think, I think that was like
Sacramento.

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That was that the intended
target of the bomb?

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Yeah, he was going after
computer stores and things of

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the like eventually.
Just a guy that owned a computer

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store.
I mean, wait, not the swing.

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Big big dog.
Steve Jobs was walking the

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Earth, you know.
Exactly.

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But you’re going down.
You’re going to take out Ed’s

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from Ed’s computers.
You know, you friggin Dick.

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That guy, what does he have to
do with it?

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Yeah, that was in Sacramento.
Yeah, that is a weird choice.

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I wonder why fucking Hugh
Scrutton’s computer Hut got it.

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Was it just like proximity?
Was he in the neighborhood?

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Maybe just to try to see terror
into the computer store owners

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of the country, you know, could
could happen to you type of

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thing.
Yeah, he was going to have to

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wait for the Internet to be a
thing before that was going to

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work.
News did not travel fast enough

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for that hysteria to spread.
Maybe that guy was just a Dick

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to him.
Overcharged him for AUSB cable

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you fucker.
I found out these AOL discs are

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free.
And so the second death

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happened.
December 10th, 1994.

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Advertising executive Thomas
Mosser opened a package received

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at his home in New Jersey.
It exploded and killed him, the

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last death four months later,
April 24th, 1995, Gilbert

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Murray, president of the
California Forestry Association.

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What that guy ever do?
He seems like he’d be on the

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right side of history.
Yeah, to the for the Unabomber.

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The whole thing about Unabomber
was he was thinking technology

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was destroying the fucking Earth
and you’re going to blow up a

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guy That’s job It is to fucking
protect the Forest Service.

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What the fuck?
This one, especially Mustang

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because the package was actually
addressed to Gilbert Murray’s

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predecessor.
And you know, he was like, what

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if it’s something cool, keep it,
and it’s a bomb and it killed

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him.
It’s probably a commemorative

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Zippo for his retirement that
just got here a little late.

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Two months later, June 28th,
1995, the New York Times and

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Washington Post both received
copies of a 35,000 word

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manifesto that claimed to be
from the Unabomber.

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They forwarded the manifesto to
the FBI like a bunch of narcs,

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at which point it was confirmed
to be authentic.

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The sender promised that if one
or both of the papers published

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the manifesto, he’d stop killing
people.

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The Washington Post published it
on June 28th, 1995.

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How do you think they figured
out which one of them had to

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publish it?
Did they do like a Rochambeau

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type of thing or flip a coin?
Yeah, I wonder if one just took

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the leap before the other.
Yeah, I guess it’s also a big

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scoop.
Maybe you want the scoop.

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Yeah, because I think they both
ended up publishing it, but the

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Washington Post was just first.
Maybe they just didn’t give a

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shit if it was fake.
They’re like fuck it, it’s a

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better read than people are
going to expect.

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If it bleeds, it leads.
I mean, it’s really an

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indictment of police work
because there was a push by the

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government to have these
newspapers publish it.

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You know, they want it because
they’re like, well, maybe

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somebody will know who he is.
But it’s like, this is your best

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chance is this at this point,
you know, like, I mean, that’s

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if you want to give Ted
Krasinski any sort of credit.

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It’s the fact that he turned
himself in, essentially.

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Didn’t his brother turn him in?
His brother turned him in, but

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he had to have known that once
they published it, they would

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figure out who he was right?
Because they they had no lead.

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Right.
And yeah, if I recall correctly

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his brother read the manifesto
and was like head come.

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On luckily it was back then when
we were store monoculture.

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Now it’s like you could plan to
list somebody’s manifesto and

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nobody, they would never even
know, you know?

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Yeah, I mean, it’s, it’s it’s
just the real heads like me and

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Adam would read in the Chris
Dorner Manifesto before we go to

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sleep.
Oh, the Chris Dorner manifesto.

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Funny you should bring that up
hanging right above me, a

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calendar from the film The
Hangover 3, which in his

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manifesto Chris Dorner was like,
sad that I’m not going to live

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to see The Hangover three.
Oh my God, it’s like, you know

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what, you didn’t miss much,
buddy.

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That movie fucking sucked.
The great Duck Stanhope bit

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about hearing that Chris Dorner
listed his top ten favorite

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comedians and he’s reading
through it with Glee because he

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can’t wait to see himself and he
realizes he’s been snubbed.

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Chris Dorner didn’t even.
You’d think Chris Dorner would

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have been a Stanhope guy too.
I mean, it’s just right there.

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I mean, cop killer, Stanhope
fan.

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It’s just just kind of adds up.
Who?

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Who was in his top 10?
Oh, it was like, oh, God, It was

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like, it was really, it was like
Margaret Cho.

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It was kind of, it was kind of
weird.

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It was, it was not what you’d
expect.

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It was not like counterculture
comedians.

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Margaret Cho was a good
comedian, but yeah, I wouldn’t

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expect her to be on the list.
Yes yes yes.

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She’s a great comedian but she’s
not cop killer vibes.

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Chappelle was in it right
because he talked about it and

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shit, right?
I think so.

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I don’t remember what they all
were.

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Katt Williams, Katt Williams,
you better be on that list.

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He better.
He better be in anybody’s top

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10, goddamnit.
Goddamn right.

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All right, so the manifesto,
there’s an introduction and it

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starts by talking about how the
Industrial Revolution has been a

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disaster for the human race,
inflicting indignities and

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mental and physical harm on
people all across the globe.

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Am I crazy that he never really
says how?

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He just says it’s harming people
and causing indignities.

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And I feel like if you sat him
down and pressed him police room

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interrogation style, eventually
he’d just be like, white people

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can’t say the N word anymore.
Yeah, there’s, there’s a lot of

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this manifesto where you’re
expected to sort of like fill in

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the blanks.
Yeah.

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And it also a big problem I have
with it is it only addresses

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what he calls leftists.
And as if, you know,

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Republicans, conservatives are
doing nothing to promote any of

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this.
He does at one point say, well,

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conservatives are dumb too
because they’re promoting all

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this.
That’s it.

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That’s the only thing.
Only one bar, Ted Kaczynski.

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In fucking Reagan era America,
that’s all that was going wrong

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was conservatives were pushing
technology and not destabilizing

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Central America so we could
invent Ms. 13 and send it back

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there.
Yeah, he was like, well, I

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support their good work ignoring
the AIDS epidemic.

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Yeah, I wouldn’t be surprised
if.

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That was the thing he said.
Because there was a point where

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he was talking about all the
like, big problems that modern

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society has that the primitive
cultures didn’t have.

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And I don’t remember what the
first one was because I just

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remember that the second one and
the only other one he listed was

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transsexuality.
That’s it.

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Like, all throughout history,
all these cultures, all the

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problems of the world today,
that’s the one.

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You’re like, man, life must have
been pretty sweet.

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Yeah.
They were eating rocks and twigs

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for breakfast, but no one was
dressed in the way they

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shouldn’t.
It’s like Jesus Christ.

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Dude, yeah.
And it’s it’s very clear that

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Ted, just Ted just wants to wear
like a, a, a shirt with a flower

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and then it holds somebody’s
hand.

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Yeah, he just wants to eat a
grape and look at a flower.

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He talks about how the
industrial technological system

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might survive but it might also
break down, and that it’ll be

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bad if it survives but also bad
if it breaks down, but that

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breakdown will be worse
depending on how big the system

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gets.
So let’s destroy it right now.

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And right now.
Meaning like 95 ish.

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That’s when he published this,
which even by then that feels

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like an unrealistic goal.
For one thing, even to get your

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manifesto published, it takes
some help from the industrial

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revolution.
Newspapers don’t fucking grow on

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trees.
Buddy, Yeah, really.

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I make a reluctant truce with
the printing press for this one

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purpose.
Yeah, these things, he should

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have handed these out in person.
Handwritten all 35,000 words.

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This is a quote from the part
where he talks about an

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overthrow of the technological
system.

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Quote.
We therefore advocate a

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revolution against the
industrial system.

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This revolution may or may not
make use of violence.

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It may be sudden, or it may be a
relatively gradual process

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spanning a few decades.
He’s not telling us shit there.

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Like he’s just trying to be
clever in how he says I don’t

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fucking know.
I don’t even know if it’s going

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to happen.
Like that’s he’s just covering

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all the bases.
Might be violent, might not.

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Might take long time, might not
take that long.

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This is like what fucking
storefront psychics do,

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basically.
Well, and it’s also like what

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what you see with a lot of white
supremacists is just, it’s like

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a fantasy.
They are stupid, obviously, but

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they’re smart enough to realize
that the race war is never

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coming.
So everything that they all,

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their, all of their media is
predicated on this fantasy.

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You know, so he’s like giving
himself a long enough timeline

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to like, well, it’s not my fault
it’s not happening.

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It could take a number of months
or years.

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So then there’s a section, The
Psychology of Modern Leftism.

434
00:22:39,320 –> 00:22:42,080
This is one of the quotes.
One of the most widespread

435
00:22:42,080 –> 00:22:46,320
manifestations of the craziness
of our world is leftism.

436
00:22:46,640 –> 00:22:50,560
He said on his bucket.
Another quote.

437
00:22:50,560 –> 00:22:53,600
When we speak of leftist in this
article, we have in mind mainly

438
00:22:53,600 –> 00:22:57,200
socialist, collectivist,
politically correct types.

439
00:22:57,240 –> 00:23:02,120
Feminists, gay and disability
activists, animal rights

440
00:23:02,160 –> 00:23:04,960
activists, and the like.
End Quote.

441
00:23:05,040 –> 00:23:07,400
He put together gay and
disability activists like

442
00:23:07,400 –> 00:23:09,720
they’re the part of the same
thing, like being gay is a

443
00:23:09,720 –> 00:23:13,160
disability.
And also tell me you’re a Nazi

444
00:23:13,160 –> 00:23:16,760
without saying you’re a Nazi.
Disability activists.

445
00:23:16,880 –> 00:23:18,640
Yeah, yeah.
You know what technology is

446
00:23:18,640 –> 00:23:20,160
ruining the world?
Wheelchairs.

447
00:23:21,520 –> 00:23:23,560
Elsewhere, I don’t know if it
was in the letter to somebody

448
00:23:23,560 –> 00:23:26,920
else, but he said he, you know,
he, he didn’t like Nazis and

449
00:23:26,920 –> 00:23:29,520
shit like that.
And I’m like, but yeah, the,

450
00:23:29,600 –> 00:23:33,640
the, the list you just gave was
the list of like the fascist

451
00:23:33,640 –> 00:23:35,760
enemies.
Yeah, I fucking hate Gargamel

452
00:23:35,760 –> 00:23:39,480
almost as much as I hate Smurfs.
If this guy was talking about

453
00:23:39,480 –> 00:23:41,600
math, that’s what he fucking
knew about.

454
00:23:41,640 –> 00:23:45,880
Yeah, I I would listen to him,
but he it’s like he didn’t read

455
00:23:45,880 –> 00:23:49,200
any fucking books about
sociology or fucking

456
00:23:49,320 –> 00:23:52,800
anthropology or about how human
society, I mean, because he’s

457
00:23:52,920 –> 00:23:55,520
unsocialized.
He’s a fucking guy in the woods.

458
00:23:55,840 –> 00:23:58,800
It’s infuriating.
Yeah, it’s a really

459
00:23:58,800 –> 00:24:03,120
self-righteous manifesto.
It’s very much, well, this is

460
00:24:03,120 –> 00:24:07,120
how I fucking get down, so this
is what everyone else should be

461
00:24:07,120 –> 00:24:08,240
doing.
It’s like man.

462
00:24:08,320 –> 00:24:10,440
You can’t.
You can’t have a revolution if

463
00:24:10,440 –> 00:24:12,920
you if there, if it’s just you,
you know.

464
00:24:13,480 –> 00:24:16,000
This, this, so this guy, this
happened in 1995.

465
00:24:16,040 –> 00:24:18,360
I’m thinking about Chris Dorner
and like, saying like, he’s just

466
00:24:18,360 –> 00:24:22,040
sad that he couldn’t fucking see
Hangover 3 before he died.

467
00:24:22,320 –> 00:24:25,520
I think if we could have just
shown Ted Kaczynski, Tommy Boy,

468
00:24:26,040 –> 00:24:27,720
he might have been like, you
know what?

469
00:24:27,800 –> 00:24:31,920
Modernity is, OK.
So yeah, he goes on to say that

470
00:24:31,920 –> 00:24:35,840
the two psychological traits
that provide the foundation for

471
00:24:35,840 –> 00:24:40,600
modern leftism are feelings of
inferiority and over

472
00:24:40,680 –> 00:24:42,240
socialization.
See.

473
00:24:43,120 –> 00:24:47,320
What the fuck is that?
We have a loneliness epidemic

474
00:24:47,320 –> 00:24:50,520
now and that was the 95.
We didn’t even probably wasn’t

475
00:24:50,520 –> 00:24:52,840
even as bad.
Yeah, people have too many

476
00:24:52,840 –> 00:24:54,200
friends.
When has that ever been a

477
00:24:54,200 –> 00:24:55,120
problem?
Yeah.

478
00:24:56,240 –> 00:25:01,960
And this really does read to me
like someone trying to reframe

479
00:25:02,120 –> 00:25:08,200
Nazi ideals as a rejection of
technology and embracing nature.

480
00:25:08,200 –> 00:25:11,760
And it’s like, no, you’re just
saying you Genesis shit here,

481
00:25:11,840 –> 00:25:15,440
but you’re like fucking raising
trees when you do it.

482
00:25:15,600 –> 00:25:18,120
And it’s not like we developed
technology to help the

483
00:25:18,120 –> 00:25:20,520
disenfranchise.
We barely ever use it for that.

484
00:25:20,560 –> 00:25:22,640
We use it for that only
extremely reluctantly.

485
00:25:23,520 –> 00:25:26,600
Yeah, that’s the thing too.
He talks about like welfare

486
00:25:26,600 –> 00:25:31,160
leeches in this and it’s like
that is a fucking creation of

487
00:25:31,440 –> 00:25:34,960
right wing minds.
It’s not even a thing.

488
00:25:35,040 –> 00:25:36,840
Reagan would always talk about,
I think, Tarrytown,

489
00:25:36,840 –> 00:25:39,560
Pennsylvania, and he’d be like,
the medium income is like

490
00:25:39,560 –> 00:25:43,400
$42,000 but everyone is on
welfare and the reason their

491
00:25:43,400 –> 00:25:46,600
medium income was $42,000 was
because like 1 billionaire lived

492
00:25:46,600 –> 00:25:49,280
on a house on a hill away in the
edge of town.

493
00:25:49,520 –> 00:25:53,160
Yeah, that sounds like fucking
Ronald Reagan reasoning.

494
00:25:53,200 –> 00:25:56,440
I put in the notes, I was 2
pages in and immediately I’m

495
00:25:56,440 –> 00:25:59,560
like, anyone, whoever told me I
should read this?

496
00:25:59,600 –> 00:26:01,200
I’m like, what’s going on with
you?

497
00:26:01,320 –> 00:26:03,320
What?
What did you get from this?

498
00:26:03,920 –> 00:26:07,440
The of course rails against
people who get mad when people

499
00:26:07,440 –> 00:26:11,120
use terms like Negro or Oriental
or handicapped.

500
00:26:11,240 –> 00:26:15,360
And it’s like, for all of the
complaining people like this

501
00:26:15,360 –> 00:26:20,200
dude do about the government
meddling in their affairs and

502
00:26:20,200 –> 00:26:23,560
not providing them enough
autonomy, why do you fucking get

503
00:26:23,560 –> 00:26:26,280
mad?
If people shit mad about words,

504
00:26:26,440 –> 00:26:27,840
why does that fucking bother
you?

505
00:26:27,840 –> 00:26:32,240
Let people go get mad at words
and you stay segregated from

506
00:26:32,240 –> 00:26:34,600
society like you want.
Fucking psychopath.

507
00:26:34,680 –> 00:26:37,160
Yeah, it seems that like this
guy in the woods could have

508
00:26:37,160 –> 00:26:40,400
successfully avoided all of this
shit that he hated by just not

509
00:26:40,400 –> 00:26:42,680
leaving.
Like he could have just kept on

510
00:26:42,680 –> 00:26:45,160
keeping on.
It’s like what he peddled in a

511
00:26:45,680 –> 00:26:47,600
town.
Every once in a while he rolls

512
00:26:47,600 –> 00:26:50,840
into the town dropping a bunch
of slurs and people like fuck

513
00:26:50,840 –> 00:26:53,200
I’m glad that guy lives in the
woods, fuck him.

514
00:26:54,280 –> 00:26:57,040
You know, right?
And he lived in rural Montana.

515
00:26:57,160 –> 00:27:00,280
So how what sort of crazy shit
was he saying to people out

516
00:27:00,280 –> 00:27:02,720
there where they were like, oh,
I don’t know about that?

517
00:27:03,120 –> 00:27:05,800
Yeah, well, you’re too lit for
rural Montana.

518
00:27:07,160 –> 00:27:09,400
Yeah, that’s bad times.
No bueno.

519
00:27:09,560 –> 00:27:13,040
He also argues that only people
who don’t belong to oppressed

520
00:27:13,040 –> 00:27:16,720
groups care about how oppressed
groups are labeled.

521
00:27:17,040 –> 00:27:19,240
And here’s the thing, fuck this
guy forever.

522
00:27:19,560 –> 00:27:23,440
But like, I would buy that if
we’re talking like homeless

523
00:27:23,440 –> 00:27:26,880
versus unhoused.
I feel like if you’re in that

524
00:27:26,880 –> 00:27:30,480
situation, you’re just like, I
use what term you want.

525
00:27:30,480 –> 00:27:32,320
Can I just have a fucking place
to live?

526
00:27:32,440 –> 00:27:38,600
But he keeps pushing that idea
to where it’s just, Oh well, if

527
00:27:38,600 –> 00:27:43,080
you care about a marginalized
group, it’s because you see them

528
00:27:43,080 –> 00:27:48,080
as inferior and you feel like
they can’t do anything to help

529
00:27:48,080 –> 00:27:51,360
themselves.
And he’s completely ignoring any

530
00:27:51,640 –> 00:27:56,640
systemic things that might
contribute to a person’s station

531
00:27:56,640 –> 00:27:59,480
in life.
In his version of the world, the

532
00:27:59,480 –> 00:28:03,440
government is both the biggest
enemy and also completely

533
00:28:03,440 –> 00:28:07,040
benevolent and almost to the
point that they don’t exist.

534
00:28:07,120 –> 00:28:10,720
Because you can’t write shit
like this and not acknowledge.

535
00:28:10,760 –> 00:28:14,360
Well, we’ve put some policies in
place over the few years that

536
00:28:14,360 –> 00:28:17,600
have kind of made things like
this for people, but he doesn’t

537
00:28:17,600 –> 00:28:20,480
take any of that into account
because he’s fucking rich and

538
00:28:20,480 –> 00:28:22,520
smart, So what the fuck does he
care?

539
00:28:22,600 –> 00:28:24,720
Was he rich?
I think he was, wasn’t he?

540
00:28:24,880 –> 00:28:28,280
I mean, he, he worked as a yeah,
he was a professor, so probably

541
00:28:28,280 –> 00:28:29,880
not that rich.
So what happened?

542
00:28:30,080 –> 00:28:33,120
Did he save up the bag?
And then he quit, right?

543
00:28:33,320 –> 00:28:34,920
And then he was just in the
woods for a long.

544
00:28:34,920 –> 00:28:38,440
Time maybe.
I mean, yeah, he lived a pretty

545
00:28:38,800 –> 00:28:41,600
low cost lifestyle eventually
there.

546
00:28:41,640 –> 00:28:45,800
Well, you once you invest in the
bucket, I mean, it’s for itself.

547
00:28:46,240 –> 00:28:48,760
They got like, his cabin on
display somewhere, right?

548
00:28:48,960 –> 00:28:51,680
It’s in some museum, right?
I think it is, yeah.

549
00:28:51,760 –> 00:28:56,720
He tried to give it to a woman
who like super duper supported

550
00:28:56,720 –> 00:28:59,840
him and corresponded with him
while he was in prison and the

551
00:28:59,840 –> 00:29:01,520
government wouldn’t let her keep
it.

552
00:29:02,080 –> 00:29:04,440
Shitty.
Well, flip that on eBay.

553
00:29:05,400 –> 00:29:08,120
Figure out where it is because I
think it’s in like a weird,

554
00:29:08,120 –> 00:29:11,520
creepy storage facility.
Like I think like the FBI has

555
00:29:11,520 –> 00:29:13,800
it.
Of course, that wouldn’t

556
00:29:13,800 –> 00:29:15,920
surprise me.
It’s bummer that it wasn’t on

557
00:29:15,920 –> 00:29:18,600
the FBI exhibit I saw at the
Reagan Library then.

558
00:29:18,680 –> 00:29:21,600
I think I didn’t want to see Ted
Kaczynski, Shaq, every bit as

559
00:29:21,600 –> 00:29:23,920
much as I wanted to see the gun
that shot Reagan.

560
00:29:24,520 –> 00:29:27,040
Man, what a gun.
So he was like, he got an

561
00:29:27,040 –> 00:29:29,440
experiment on like in the MK
Ultra, right?

562
00:29:29,440 –> 00:29:31,200
That’s what.
That’s what fucking made him

563
00:29:31,200 –> 00:29:33,320
nuts, huh?
That’s I’ve heard that I’ve

564
00:29:33,320 –> 00:29:38,240
heard he was part of some MK
Ultra experiments, which that

565
00:29:38,240 –> 00:29:41,280
wouldn’t surprise me that, you
know, sounds like conspiracy

566
00:29:41,280 –> 00:29:44,320
theory nonsense now, but that’s
people not taking he.

567
00:29:44,320 –> 00:29:45,280
Was at.
He was at.

568
00:29:45,680 –> 00:29:47,560
He went to Harvard right where
he went.

569
00:29:47,640 –> 00:29:50,840
Yeah, I believe so, yeah.
So he was there at the time when

570
00:29:50,840 –> 00:29:54,160
they were doing like acid tests
or the they were giving him like

571
00:29:54,160 –> 00:29:56,080
LSD and all that sort of stuff.
Totally.

572
00:29:56,080 –> 00:29:57,960
He could have been the next
Richard Alpert, we could have

573
00:29:57,960 –> 00:30:00,400
had another Ram Dass, but they
they just gave him the wrong

574
00:30:00,400 –> 00:30:03,120
amount.
Yeah, there are a bunch of

575
00:30:03,120 –> 00:30:06,080
surprising names that come up in
relation to MK Ultra.

576
00:30:06,160 –> 00:30:08,520
He’s one of them.
Charles Manson is another one.

577
00:30:08,640 –> 00:30:13,480
MK Ultra was so huge.
It covered the US and Canada.

578
00:30:13,560 –> 00:30:16,400
It was something like 130
different hospitals and

579
00:30:16,400 –> 00:30:18,800
universities.
And don’t forget whore houses.

580
00:30:18,880 –> 00:30:22,200
Yeah, Oh yeah, CIA brothels in
San Francisco.

581
00:30:22,320 –> 00:30:25,640
So I would venture a guess that
a lot more people got subjected

582
00:30:25,640 –> 00:30:29,200
to MK Ultra shit then we will
ever, ever, ever know.

583
00:30:29,400 –> 00:30:32,680
Here’s what kills me about this
section where he’s talking about

584
00:30:32,680 –> 00:30:36,760
how oppressed groups don’t care
about how other groups are

585
00:30:36,760 –> 00:30:38,960
labeled.
He follows it up by saying the

586
00:30:39,040 –> 00:30:41,880
quote Average black ghetto
dweller.

587
00:30:42,080 –> 00:30:45,200
End Quote.
Oh fuck, doesn’t care about this

588
00:30:45,360 –> 00:30:48,120
at all.
I feel like a lot of people in

589
00:30:48,120 –> 00:30:52,040
the United States would be a
highly bothered by being labeled

590
00:30:52,080 –> 00:30:55,880
average black ghetto dweller.
That sounds like like what?

591
00:30:55,880 –> 00:30:58,960
Like what what Kanye was going
to make his rap name back in

592
00:30:58,960 –> 00:31:01,760
like when he was going to be
average black.

593
00:31:01,760 –> 00:31:05,400
So Shoplifter I think it was.
It would be kind of a hard rap

594
00:31:05,400 –> 00:31:06,920
name.
Like if Ice Cube came out as

595
00:31:06,920 –> 00:31:08,560
average black ghetto dweller
like fuck.

596
00:31:08,560 –> 00:31:10,560
Yeah, that’d be an interesting
turn.

597
00:31:10,760 –> 00:31:12,200
It’d be a good Kendrick Lamar
album.

598
00:31:12,320 –> 00:31:14,760
Was he listening to like right
wing radio out there in that

599
00:31:14,760 –> 00:31:17,120
cabin by himself while he’s
pooping in the bucket?

600
00:31:17,120 –> 00:31:18,840
I mean, where is he getting
these ideas?

601
00:31:18,840 –> 00:31:20,560
Like is he?
That’s what I want to know.

602
00:31:20,560 –> 00:31:22,480
Is he reading the reading?
Reading in the paper?

603
00:31:22,480 –> 00:31:23,760
Like what?
Where is this?

604
00:31:23,760 –> 00:31:27,200
Just did the machinations of his
own lonely, racist mind?

605
00:31:27,280 –> 00:31:29,880
He’s got to have some kind of
Rush Limbaugh steering him in

606
00:31:29,880 –> 00:31:32,280
this direction.
Yeah, and I know.

607
00:31:32,320 –> 00:31:34,800
I mean, when he was working as a
professor, obviously he would

608
00:31:34,800 –> 00:31:38,280
have been out there in the world
and seeing people and doing

609
00:31:38,280 –> 00:31:40,760
things.
But yeah, eventually, like once

610
00:31:40,760 –> 00:31:43,160
you’re living in the woods,
where are you getting all this

611
00:31:43,160 –> 00:31:45,440
hate from?
Where are you taking in

612
00:31:45,440 –> 00:31:50,200
information if you reject the
Industrial Revolution so much?

613
00:31:50,280 –> 00:31:52,960
Because again, you can’t fucking
read without it, dude.

614
00:31:53,080 –> 00:31:55,200
That’s how it works.
You’re out there.

615
00:31:55,200 –> 00:31:56,840
Yeah.
You’re in rural Montana.

616
00:31:56,840 –> 00:31:59,600
There’s no other.
There’s just other white people

617
00:31:59,600 –> 00:32:01,520
out there, right?
Yeah.

618
00:32:01,520 –> 00:32:03,400
I mean, who, who’s he
interacting with?

619
00:32:03,400 –> 00:32:07,160
You know, I mean, but unless he
just crank, you know, listen, I

620
00:32:07,160 –> 00:32:10,360
mean, he probably could only
pick up AM radio in that chat.

621
00:32:10,440 –> 00:32:11,320
So.
Yeah.

622
00:32:11,360 –> 00:32:14,920
Yeah.
This is a quote from this

623
00:32:14,920 –> 00:32:17,160
section.
Political correctness has its

624
00:32:17,160 –> 00:32:20,840
stronghold among university
professors who have secure

625
00:32:20,920 –> 00:32:24,840
employment with comfortable
salaries and the majority of

626
00:32:24,840 –> 00:32:28,640
whom are heterosexual white
males from middle to upper

627
00:32:28,640 –> 00:32:31,320
middle class families.
End Quote.

628
00:32:31,440 –> 00:32:35,520
And So what he’s basically
getting mad at here is, well,

629
00:32:35,520 –> 00:32:38,000
you’re doing fine.
Why do you care about other

630
00:32:38,000 –> 00:32:39,720
people?
And that is based.

631
00:32:39,720 –> 00:32:42,920
That’s kind of the foundation of
conservatism.

632
00:32:43,000 –> 00:32:46,800
Like that is really sort of the
defining difference between the

633
00:32:46,800 –> 00:32:51,720
left and the right is the right
really does think, well, that

634
00:32:51,720 –> 00:32:53,440
doesn’t affect you, so why would
you care?

635
00:32:53,440 –> 00:32:56,400
There has to be some sort of
disingenuous reason that you’re

636
00:32:56,400 –> 00:32:59,200
pursuing this.
And meanwhile, the left tends to

637
00:32:59,200 –> 00:33:01,840
think more like, well, how is
this going to impact the world?

638
00:33:01,920 –> 00:33:04,680
And it’s such.
A schism, Yeah.

639
00:33:04,680 –> 00:33:07,080
He’s like, he’s like coming out
against altruism.

640
00:33:07,960 –> 00:33:11,600
Yeah, he really does get into in
certain sections.

641
00:33:11,600 –> 00:33:14,080
Just like you don’t want any
help, If people help you, you’re

642
00:33:14,080 –> 00:33:16,120
going to be unhappy.
That’s a fundamental

643
00:33:16,120 –> 00:33:19,240
misunderstanding of humanity and
how we got so far.

644
00:33:19,320 –> 00:33:22,680
Yeah, but that just human being,
the reason human beings are the

645
00:33:22,680 –> 00:33:26,280
top of the charts is because we
copied each other.

646
00:33:26,280 –> 00:33:29,120
We helped each other.
We were the first animal to set

647
00:33:29,120 –> 00:33:32,160
another animal’s bone.
And that’s what, you know, we we

648
00:33:32,680 –> 00:33:35,080
instead of being like, you broke
your bone, well, you’re going to

649
00:33:35,080 –> 00:33:37,160
die in that ditch.
See, you never, you know, I

650
00:33:37,200 –> 00:33:39,200
mean.
Yeah, that’s a great point.

651
00:33:39,200 –> 00:33:41,720
Like, isn’t it?
Isn’t our capacity to thrive

652
00:33:41,720 –> 00:33:45,360
like like sort of like entangled
with our like tribal dynamic?

653
00:33:46,640 –> 00:33:51,360
You can see various points in
this where he realizes he’s hit

654
00:33:51,480 –> 00:33:55,120
a talking point like that where
someone might object and he just

655
00:33:55,120 –> 00:33:58,720
brushes it off.
The example I’m thinking of,

656
00:33:58,800 –> 00:34:02,320
he’s at another point railing
against industrialization and

657
00:34:02,320 –> 00:34:04,280
things of the like.
And then he’s like, but yeah,

658
00:34:04,280 –> 00:34:07,560
from a medical standpoint, I
guess, you know, there were some

659
00:34:07,560 –> 00:34:10,719
pretty big threats prior to
industrialization that, you

660
00:34:10,719 –> 00:34:12,360
know, medicine has taken care
of.

661
00:34:12,639 –> 00:34:15,239
He gives it up for penicillin
and penicillin only.

662
00:34:15,600 –> 00:34:17,080
Yeah.
But then he’s just like,

663
00:34:17,520 –> 00:34:21,520
whatever, let’s carry on.
It’s like, no, no, but we need

664
00:34:21,520 –> 00:34:25,159
to talk about that part more
because he does also never

665
00:34:25,159 –> 00:34:29,360
really address, except in like
superficial ways like that, the

666
00:34:29,360 –> 00:34:33,000
benefits that industrialization
have had for people.

667
00:34:33,000 –> 00:34:35,159
None of that matters.
Like think about how many

668
00:34:35,159 –> 00:34:37,880
children got great jobs because
of industrialization.

669
00:34:38,520 –> 00:34:41,199
Exactly.
If you look at Ted Kaczynski,

670
00:34:41,760 –> 00:34:46,040
the whole thing as a more of a
warning of like tech Bros and

671
00:34:46,199 –> 00:34:49,440
technology and that they want us
to not socialize.

672
00:34:49,440 –> 00:34:54,600
And he’s kind of like the ID of
tech Bros in terms of like,

673
00:34:54,679 –> 00:34:57,640
they’re they fucking the tech
nerds.

674
00:34:57,720 –> 00:35:00,040
They had trouble fucking
socializing.

675
00:35:00,040 –> 00:35:02,800
So they created the fucking
Internet so they could get on

676
00:35:02,800 –> 00:35:05,560
there and fucking say whatever
dumb shit to each other.

677
00:35:05,640 –> 00:35:07,720
You know, the guy that invented
the ATM?

678
00:35:07,800 –> 00:35:10,880
The guy invented the ATM.
His biggest regret in life was

679
00:35:10,880 –> 00:35:15,120
that he he invented the ATM.
He because it took people away

680
00:35:15,120 –> 00:35:18,080
from going to the bank and
socializing with the bank teller

681
00:35:18,080 –> 00:35:21,000
because some for old people that
was maybe their only

682
00:35:21,000 –> 00:35:22,880
socialization and shit like
that.

683
00:35:23,120 –> 00:35:25,200
Yeah.
Interesting, I never heard that

684
00:35:25,200 –> 00:35:27,120
before.
I listen like this whole podcast

685
00:35:27,120 –> 00:35:30,000
about the guy, the bank teller
but the ATM.

686
00:35:30,000 –> 00:35:31,840
Thing about the guy who invented
the flashlight?

687
00:35:33,840 –> 00:35:36,440
If we could have just gotten Ted
Kaczynski one flashlight.

688
00:35:36,960 –> 00:35:40,320
Even though he’s like anti
technology, he he’s, I mean I

689
00:35:40,320 –> 00:35:43,640
guess his life is I don’t know
what the fuck he he was a dumb

690
00:35:43,640 –> 00:35:45,120
ass.
That’s all there is to it.

691
00:35:46,520 –> 00:35:50,320
Yeah, this is the section where
he argues that leftists only

692
00:35:50,320 –> 00:35:54,280
identify with the problems of
underrepresented groups because

693
00:35:54,280 –> 00:35:58,200
they see those groups as
inferior, as opposed to Ted

694
00:35:58,200 –> 00:36:01,800
Kaczynski, who sees them as
absolute equals, I’m sure.

695
00:36:01,800 –> 00:36:03,560
I don’t even understand that
point.

696
00:36:03,560 –> 00:36:08,000
Like we, so we’re doing it
supposedly because like it gives

697
00:36:08,000 –> 00:36:12,400
us a superiority complex.
Like, oh, I’ll feel happy and

698
00:36:12,400 –> 00:36:15,720
good and powerful because I
helped this inferior disabled

699
00:36:15,720 –> 00:36:19,280
person, says Ted.
Like what is he even saying?

700
00:36:19,360 –> 00:36:22,600
That’s what makes me so
suspicious about this.

701
00:36:22,760 –> 00:36:26,320
I mean, this is a conspiracy
theory podcast after all, and I

702
00:36:26,320 –> 00:36:29,600
get that the dude went to prison
or whatever, but so much of this

703
00:36:29,600 –> 00:36:35,040
just reads like really trying to
reframe Nazism, conservatism,

704
00:36:35,040 –> 00:36:37,280
whatever.
The fucking Reagan agenda.

705
00:36:37,400 –> 00:36:39,960
It sounds like you want the
smallest like possible

706
00:36:39,960 –> 00:36:41,440
government.
Yeah.

707
00:36:41,600 –> 00:36:45,240
And like, so much of it.
What I, what really bothers me

708
00:36:45,240 –> 00:36:50,200
is he’s a smart guy, smart ish.
So he knows most of what he’s

709
00:36:50,200 –> 00:36:54,920
talking about is not attainable.
Like shutting down industrial

710
00:36:54,920 –> 00:36:58,240
society is not possible.
But we could like, roll back

711
00:36:58,240 –> 00:37:01,240
some social reforms that have
caused the government to, like,

712
00:37:01,240 –> 00:37:05,400
take care of people in a way
that he deems destructive.

713
00:37:05,560 –> 00:37:08,120
Like we could do that.
It’s like Elon Musk shit.

714
00:37:08,160 –> 00:37:10,880
The social reforms has nothing
to do with technology.

715
00:37:10,960 –> 00:37:13,960
Right, also that.
It’s like either you’re anti

716
00:37:13,960 –> 00:37:16,720
technology, you know, the idea
that either you’re you think

717
00:37:16,720 –> 00:37:19,640
we’re destroying the earth.
OK, you’re, you’re probably

718
00:37:19,640 –> 00:37:23,080
right there.
But how is destroying the fabric

719
00:37:23,080 –> 00:37:25,120
of society going to help that,
you know?

720
00:37:25,200 –> 00:37:30,040
Yeah, he also suggests that
feminists are anxious to prove

721
00:37:30,040 –> 00:37:34,240
women are equal because they
think women aren’t equal.

722
00:37:34,320 –> 00:37:38,120
And it’s like, Are you sure it’s
not just that they recognize

723
00:37:38,120 –> 00:37:42,120
that women aren’t treated equal
as opposed to thinking women are

724
00:37:42,120 –> 00:37:45,560
inferior?
Maybe it’s just been recognized

725
00:37:45,560 –> 00:37:48,960
for a long time that in a lot of
situations in life, women are

726
00:37:48,960 –> 00:37:52,360
not treated equal to men.
Like the Trump administration is

727
00:37:52,360 –> 00:37:56,000
trying to make that law again.
You can’t, as a college right

728
00:37:56,000 –> 00:38:01,000
now, require that NIL money be
split equally between men and

729
00:38:01,000 –> 00:38:01,920
women.
That’s law.

730
00:38:01,920 –> 00:38:04,760
Now.
That’s a thing Trump did through

731
00:38:04,800 –> 00:38:11,560
executive order.
I mean, the fact that I would go

732
00:38:11,560 –> 00:38:13,760
off on a rant, but the fact that
Joe Biden didn’t make the

733
00:38:13,760 –> 00:38:17,720
fucking National Archivist just
put the fucking Equal Rights

734
00:38:17,720 –> 00:38:19,520
Amendment, he could have done
that.

735
00:38:19,600 –> 00:38:22,600
He should have just did it.
He was tired, Dave.

736
00:38:22,600 –> 00:38:28,680
OK, he needed a nap.
I know it was fucking bunch of

737
00:38:28,680 –> 00:38:29,880
bullshit.
I agree.

738
00:38:30,000 –> 00:38:33,000
If he was talking about
politically correctness, that

739
00:38:33,000 –> 00:38:34,640
means he was tied into the
culture.

740
00:38:34,640 –> 00:38:37,720
I mean, that that term doesn’t
come out until the late 80s, I

741
00:38:37,720 –> 00:38:39,400
think, right?
Or, you know, there was the

742
00:38:39,400 –> 00:38:42,440
movie PCU that that was that
whole period of probably the

743
00:38:42,440 –> 00:38:46,760
late 80s, early 90s where that
politically correctness first

744
00:38:46,840 –> 00:38:49,720
comes into vogue, right?
So he’s like, is he reading

745
00:38:49,720 –> 00:38:51,840
Newsweek?
Is he reading Time magazine?

746
00:38:51,840 –> 00:38:55,640
I mean, you know, he’s he, he’s,
he’s taking in information,

747
00:38:55,640 –> 00:38:57,440
obviously.
Yeah, there’s a lot of plot

748
00:38:57,440 –> 00:38:59,960
holes in this.
I’d be I’d be fascinated to see

749
00:38:59,960 –> 00:39:02,160
Ted Kaczynski’s reading list,
you know?

750
00:39:02,280 –> 00:39:04,560
Yeah, I bet that’s out there
somewhere.

751
00:39:04,680 –> 00:39:07,960
And when he was in prison, he
never did any interviews or he

752
00:39:07,960 –> 00:39:09,680
never granted interviews or
anything or what?

753
00:39:09,880 –> 00:39:12,960
Isn’t there a Netflix thing
about interviews with Ted

754
00:39:12,960 –> 00:39:15,440
Kaczynski?
Unabomber, in his own words,

755
00:39:15,440 –> 00:39:17,400
sounds like it.
Anchored by a rare interview,

756
00:39:17,400 –> 00:39:19,960
this Talk is Serious details Ted
Kaczynski’s path from a young

757
00:39:19,960 –> 00:39:22,360
intellectual to one of the most
feared people in U.S. history.

758
00:39:22,960 –> 00:39:25,640
Yeah, sounds like we can hear a
little Ted Ted in his own words.

759
00:39:25,640 –> 00:39:28,720
It’s.
Probably fucking AI Unabomber

760
00:39:28,720 –> 00:39:30,440
wasn’t even real.
Fuck this.

761
00:39:30,440 –> 00:39:32,040
I don’t think he even.
Existed.

762
00:39:32,160 –> 00:39:34,520
He was created by the Reagan
administration to fuck the

763
00:39:34,520 –> 00:39:36,760
Clinton administration.
Yeah, absolutely.

764
00:39:37,480 –> 00:39:40,040
So here’s a couple of quotes
from this section that

765
00:39:40,080 –> 00:39:43,200
especially bother me.
First one left ish.

766
00:39:43,320 –> 00:39:47,280
Philosophers tend to dismiss
reason, science, and objective

767
00:39:47,280 –> 00:39:50,840
reality and to insist that
everything is culturally

768
00:39:50,840 –> 00:39:52,520
relative.
End Quote.

769
00:39:52,600 –> 00:39:56,120
And like, given everything else
I’ve read up to this point, I

770
00:39:56,120 –> 00:39:59,720
really need to know what kind of
science he’s talking about,

771
00:39:59,720 –> 00:40:01,760
because I guarantee it’s some of
that.

772
00:40:01,800 –> 00:40:04,680
You can tell how smart a person
is by the shape of their head.

773
00:40:04,840 –> 00:40:08,600
Racist type bullshit.
He will sometimes be mad at

774
00:40:08,600 –> 00:40:10,720
science.
He actually has a whole section

775
00:40:10,800 –> 00:40:13,480
about how scientists.
Should not be trusted.

776
00:40:13,480 –> 00:40:18,000
But here people on the left are
dismissing science and objective

777
00:40:18,120 –> 00:40:20,240
reality.
It’s like I need to know what

778
00:40:20,240 –> 00:40:23,760
science he’s talking about.
I bet it’s some racist fucking

779
00:40:23,760 –> 00:40:26,000
science.
Yeah, phrenology.

780
00:40:26,880 –> 00:40:30,480
The guy was dosed with a too
much LSD and it brought out his

781
00:40:30,480 –> 00:40:33,000
schizophrenia and then all of a
sudden we’re reading his

782
00:40:33,000 –> 00:40:35,000
fucking.
It’s like if you just went and

783
00:40:35,000 –> 00:40:37,720
found a homeless guy that was
yelling shit on the street and

784
00:40:37,720 –> 00:40:40,000
asked him to write it down and
be like, oh, there’s some

785
00:40:40,200 –> 00:40:41,880
fucking.
You might have a couple of good

786
00:40:41,880 –> 00:40:44,600
ideas, but most of them it’s
going to be fucking nuts.

787
00:40:44,960 –> 00:40:47,400
Dude when it when I was first
reading through this, that was

788
00:40:47,400 –> 00:40:49,960
my thought it was this says
major not taking your pills

789
00:40:49,960 –> 00:40:52,760
vibes.
Yeah, yeah, he could use an SSRI

790
00:40:52,760 –> 00:40:55,040
for sure.
An antipsychotic, I think.

791
00:40:56,200 –> 00:40:58,480
Yeah, you throw him on some
lithium and see what the how

792
00:40:58,480 –> 00:41:02,960
different the manifesto is then.
Look Don, you take away 6/6 or 7

793
00:41:02,960 –> 00:41:04,760
pills.
I’m writing the manifesto, OK?

794
00:41:04,760 –> 00:41:05,760
No judgement.
Ted.

795
00:41:06,720 –> 00:41:09,240
But I’m saying that you, you
know, you got to have some, you

796
00:41:09,240 –> 00:41:11,480
got to take some, some of your
own that, you know, the personal

797
00:41:11,480 –> 00:41:12,920
accountability you’ve been
writing about.

798
00:41:13,240 –> 00:41:15,680
Maybe it’s time to grab a little
bucket of that for yourself, big

799
00:41:15,680 –> 00:41:17,800
guy.
Now, what’s the difference

800
00:41:17,800 –> 00:41:21,120
between like a a declaration and
a manifesto?

801
00:41:21,320 –> 00:41:23,440
Yeah.
Is it like word count structure

802
00:41:23,440 –> 00:41:25,040
like in poetry?
Something like that?

803
00:41:25,120 –> 00:41:28,840
Or is it just if you win or not?
I think it’s if you win or not.

804
00:41:28,840 –> 00:41:31,760
Because if, if, if the if we, if
America lost that shit, that

805
00:41:31,760 –> 00:41:36,160
would that would be called the
American Manifesto Best of

806
00:41:36,160 –> 00:41:38,160
independence.
Here’s another quote.

807
00:41:38,160 –> 00:41:41,680
Leftists prefer to give society
the credit or blame for an

808
00:41:41,680 –> 00:41:44,080
individual’s ability or lack of
it.

809
00:41:44,160 –> 00:41:47,360
End Quote and see, that’s that.
Pull yourself up from your

810
00:41:47,360 –> 00:41:50,320
bootstraps bullshit.
What I’m reading here is the

811
00:41:50,320 –> 00:41:54,400
leftist include both nature and
nurture in their assessment of a

812
00:41:54,400 –> 00:41:57,360
human being like.
Wild who would do it?

813
00:41:57,400 –> 00:41:59,680
Yeah.
To what end would you take into

814
00:41:59,720 –> 00:42:04,000
account all relevant factors?
Another quote Helping Black

815
00:42:04,000 –> 00:42:08,080
people is not their real goal.
Instead, race problems serve as

816
00:42:08,080 –> 00:42:12,440
an excuse for them to express
their own hostility and

817
00:42:12,440 –> 00:42:16,760
frustrated need for power.
In doing so, they actually harm

818
00:42:16,760 –> 00:42:20,600
Black people because the
activist hostile attitude toward

819
00:42:20,600 –> 00:42:24,600
the white majority tends to
intensify race hatred.

820
00:42:24,720 –> 00:42:27,600
End Quote.
So what he’s saying is don’t get

821
00:42:27,600 –> 00:42:31,040
mad at racist for being racist
because that’ll make him more

822
00:42:31,040 –> 00:42:33,280
racist.
Check and mate.

823
00:42:33,320 –> 00:42:35,000
I like it.
I just love a guy making all

824
00:42:35,000 –> 00:42:37,560
these sweeping generalizations
and it’s like he knows like

825
00:42:37,560 –> 00:42:40,400
three people, himself, his
brother and his dad, like.

826
00:42:40,760 –> 00:42:43,200
Yeah, and whatever people are in
that town, he, I mean, he, he

827
00:42:43,200 –> 00:42:45,080
biked in the town or whatever
the fuck I think.

828
00:42:45,120 –> 00:42:47,280
Yeah, yeah, the guy.
The guy at the fucking general

829
00:42:47,280 –> 00:42:49,080
store.
And whoever worked at the post

830
00:42:49,080 –> 00:42:54,880
office.
Yeah, right, Yeah, the guy mails

831
00:42:54,880 –> 00:42:58,080
an odd, oddly sized package once
every month and 1/2 or so.

832
00:42:59,120 –> 00:43:01,240
Well, he had to buy.
He had to buy the postage

833
00:43:01,240 –> 00:43:03,640
somehow, that that wasn’t
something you could print off

834
00:43:03,640 –> 00:43:05,520
back then.
So he had to get the postage

835
00:43:05,520 –> 00:43:08,000
from somebody.
Ironically, the Unabomber would

836
00:43:08,000 –> 00:43:10,320
have love stamps.com.
That’s a technological.

837
00:43:10,320 –> 00:43:13,440
Would have love stamps.com offer
code Unabomber.

838
00:43:14,400 –> 00:43:18,000
Yeah, Can we AI that commercial,
the Unabomber for stance.com?

839
00:43:18,000 –> 00:43:20,800
I want that next year’s Super
Bowl in Trump’s America.

840
00:43:20,880 –> 00:43:24,920
Want to stay off the radar?
He had to be listening to right

841
00:43:24,920 –> 00:43:26,920
wing radio, especially in
Montana.

842
00:43:26,920 –> 00:43:29,760
You’re probably getting that
pure uncut, like not the

843
00:43:29,760 –> 00:43:33,800
national one, the local 10.
That one’s probably real bonkers

844
00:43:34,160 –> 00:43:37,080
and he’s probably just hearing
the shit and then typing it on

845
00:43:37,080 –> 00:43:39,400
the fucking paper.
Yeah you’re right, he had to be

846
00:43:39,400 –> 00:43:44,440
taking in some current modern
information in his fucking anti

847
00:43:44,440 –> 00:43:47,600
techno shack in the middle of
the Montana woods.

848
00:43:47,840 –> 00:43:49,720
We look it up.
What was all found in there?

849
00:43:49,720 –> 00:43:52,000
Did they find a rate?
Yeah, they just found like an

850
00:43:52,160 –> 00:43:55,280
early version of a modem.
He was on the Internet the whole

851
00:43:55,280 –> 00:43:59,720
time.
He’s doing BBS boards. 40,000

852
00:43:59,720 –> 00:44:02,920
handwritten journal pages that
included his crimes.

853
00:44:03,680 –> 00:44:05,680
And pens with those pens made
with machines.

854
00:44:05,720 –> 00:44:08,040
This guys a fraud.
They were all written in his own

855
00:44:08,040 –> 00:44:10,440
blood.
I mean that I would respect.

856
00:44:10,440 –> 00:44:13,800
They written in his own poop man
bucket fresh.

857
00:44:15,320 –> 00:44:17,440
Get yourself a poop quill and
get to work.

858
00:44:18,640 –> 00:44:23,800
He also talks about leftist
being over socialized, but then

859
00:44:23,800 –> 00:44:26,440
he gives this additional
information.

860
00:44:26,520 –> 00:44:30,000
One of the most important means
by which our society socializes

861
00:44:30,000 –> 00:44:33,800
children is by making them feel
ashamed of behavior or speech

862
00:44:33,880 –> 00:44:37,200
that is contrary to society’s
expectations.

863
00:44:37,320 –> 00:44:40,200
End Quote.
So again, white people can’t say

864
00:44:40,200 –> 00:44:43,200
the N word without getting in
trouble for it anymore.

865
00:44:43,280 –> 00:44:46,600
I hear that, but I also hear a
little bit of like, OK, he talks

866
00:44:46,600 –> 00:44:48,040
about leftists or over
socialized.

867
00:44:48,040 –> 00:44:50,680
The people that don’t agree with
me have too many friends.

868
00:44:51,760 –> 00:44:54,720
And he’s like, what the the way
that they, you know, socialize

869
00:44:54,720 –> 00:44:56,960
children is to make them feel
ashamed of their opinions.

870
00:44:56,960 –> 00:44:58,200
Like what happened to little
Ted?

871
00:44:58,200 –> 00:45:00,200
What what did little Ted say in
fifth grade?

872
00:45:00,200 –> 00:45:01,440
It made you feel this way,
buddy?

873
00:45:01,440 –> 00:45:05,000
Like what happened?
Well, I guess here’s what

874
00:45:05,000 –> 00:45:07,640
happened.
I guess that he, he had a super

875
00:45:07,640 –> 00:45:10,680
high IQ and then he skipped a
grade and then when he got to

876
00:45:10,680 –> 00:45:15,240
the higher grade he I guess he
was like the socialized a lot

877
00:45:15,240 –> 00:45:17,800
and he was kind of the leader
and that when he skipped ahead,

878
00:45:17,800 –> 00:45:20,720
he didn’t fit in with the older
kids and they bullied him so.

879
00:45:20,960 –> 00:45:23,400
Dude I started tanking my grades
because of exactly the

880
00:45:23,400 –> 00:45:25,080
situation.
I was getting put up a grade in

881
00:45:25,080 –> 00:45:27,440
math and English.
They would send me to like from

882
00:45:27,480 –> 00:45:30,120
5th grade to 4th grade to 5th
grade or from 4th grade to 6th

883
00:45:30,120 –> 00:45:33,080
grade and I and I just got the
fucking depressed because I had

884
00:45:33,080 –> 00:45:34,760
nothing in common with the other
kids.

885
00:45:35,080 –> 00:45:37,400
That’s interesting, you saved
yourself from being the fucking

886
00:45:37,400 –> 00:45:39,240
Unabomber bud.
I know Jesus.

887
00:45:40,760 –> 00:45:44,080
Nice work, Apathy.
And it’s like, that’s your

888
00:45:44,080 –> 00:45:48,440
fucking villain origin story.
I got bullied a little bit for

889
00:45:48,440 –> 00:45:50,600
being too smart.
Fuck you.

890
00:45:50,800 –> 00:45:52,840
Yeah, really.
Got to go blow up a bunch of

891
00:45:52,840 –> 00:45:55,240
computer stores and kill the
people in them.

892
00:45:55,280 –> 00:45:57,640
Sure, no choice.
What else you going to do?

893
00:45:57,680 –> 00:45:59,760
This fucking guy.
You could have started the mean

894
00:45:59,760 –> 00:46:04,160
Boys podcast, pussy.
Robbed us of another podcast in

895
00:46:04,160 –> 00:46:06,880
the world.
I know and we need, we need, we

896
00:46:06,920 –> 00:46:10,400
need as many as we can get.
So he also talks about the power

897
00:46:10,400 –> 00:46:15,120
process, and this section is
mostly just about how bad it is

898
00:46:15,120 –> 00:46:17,640
when the government takes care
of their people.

899
00:46:17,760 –> 00:46:20,280
Here’s a quote.
Consider the hypothetical case

900
00:46:20,280 –> 00:46:24,400
of a man who can have anything
he wants just by wishing for it.

901
00:46:24,400 –> 00:46:27,800
Such a man has power, but he
will develop serious

902
00:46:27,800 –> 00:46:31,000
psychological problems.
At first he will have a lot of

903
00:46:31,000 –> 00:46:34,800
fun, but by and by he will
become acutely bored and

904
00:46:34,800 –> 00:46:37,840
demoralized.
End Quote and motherfucker.

905
00:46:37,840 –> 00:46:40,000
Based on what?
Citation needed.

906
00:46:40,320 –> 00:46:42,200
This sounds like his own
experience again.

907
00:46:42,200 –> 00:46:45,560
Like he’s he had his little lump
of professor cash, he had his

908
00:46:45,560 –> 00:46:47,760
cabin, he had everything he
wanted, and he’s still not

909
00:46:47,760 –> 00:46:48,840
happy.
Yeah.

910
00:46:48,920 –> 00:46:52,600
And someone told him to take
pills and he was like, no, I

911
00:46:52,600 –> 00:46:55,200
need nature.
Yeah, something like that had to

912
00:46:55,200 –> 00:46:58,600
have happened because he’s
taking this hypothetical

913
00:46:58,600 –> 00:47:02,720
situation and and adding like
concrete statements to it.

914
00:47:02,760 –> 00:47:06,120
Like this hypothetical man who
can have whatever he wants, he’s

915
00:47:06,120 –> 00:47:09,600
for sure going to end up getting
bored and demoralized over that.

916
00:47:09,680 –> 00:47:11,760
And Are you sure?
He’s not even studying another

917
00:47:11,760 –> 00:47:14,200
philosophical text here.
He’s not even like, so saith

918
00:47:14,200 –> 00:47:16,280
Homer or anything, you know?
Yeah, yeah.

919
00:47:16,280 –> 00:47:19,240
He’s just like, wording it in a
way that makes it sound

920
00:47:19,400 –> 00:47:22,440
profound.
Like like Trump’s tweet about

921
00:47:22,440 –> 00:47:26,600
how he who saves his country
cannot violate any law.

922
00:47:27,000 –> 00:47:29,360
It’s like you’re Trump.
Don’t say he who, you

923
00:47:29,360 –> 00:47:31,920
motherfucker.
Unless you’re singing along the

924
00:47:31,920 –> 00:47:33,640
Michael Jackson songs, don’t.
Don’t you?

925
00:47:33,640 –> 00:47:34,120
Yeah.
You.

926
00:47:34,120 –> 00:47:36,120
Fucking trying this Wikipedia
page.

927
00:47:36,200 –> 00:47:39,120
Gaslight me into thinking Trump
wrote something that started

928
00:47:39,120 –> 00:47:43,040
with He Who anyway.
For several weeks in 1966,

929
00:47:43,080 –> 00:47:46,120
Kaczynski experienced intense
sexual fantasies of being a

930
00:47:46,120 –> 00:47:49,480
female and decided to undergo
gender transition.

931
00:47:49,520 –> 00:47:51,960
And then he arranged to meet a
psychiatrist, but changed his

932
00:47:51,960 –> 00:47:56,520
mind in the waiting room.
Wow, you cannot make this stuff

933
00:47:56,520 –> 00:47:58,120
up.
I mean like if you go through

934
00:47:58,120 –> 00:47:59,560
his Wikipedia.
Like all this?

935
00:47:59,680 –> 00:48:01,720
Yeah.
And then apparently like the

936
00:48:01,720 –> 00:48:05,880
type of mathematics that he he
was teaching was going to be

937
00:48:05,880 –> 00:48:09,240
like, I guess phased out or some
shit.

938
00:48:09,240 –> 00:48:11,920
So like.
So he had some grievances for

939
00:48:11,920 –> 00:48:13,360
sure.
Yeah, yeah.

940
00:48:13,440 –> 00:48:15,640
Wow, I didn’t know math could
become obsolete.

941
00:48:15,640 –> 00:48:16,920
I didn’t think it worked like
that.

942
00:48:17,600 –> 00:48:20,000
Yeah, what are you doing
studying this fucking indie

943
00:48:20,000 –> 00:48:22,080
underground math in the 1st
place?

944
00:48:22,920 –> 00:48:28,160
Study something useful and he
even goes so far as to say in

945
00:48:28,160 –> 00:48:33,040
this section that getting things
like food, water and shelter too

946
00:48:33,040 –> 00:48:37,120
easily makes a person bored.
Which again, this is the anti

947
00:48:37,120 –> 00:48:39,760
communist manifesto is what this
is.

948
00:48:39,760 –> 00:48:43,440
This is him saying you don’t
want your needs taken care of

949
00:48:43,440 –> 00:48:45,160
too easily.
It’s going to make you sad.

950
00:48:45,240 –> 00:48:47,640
It’s to each according to his
race, to each according to his

951
00:48:47,640 –> 00:48:51,440
grumpiness.
He tried to live the Atlas

952
00:48:51,520 –> 00:48:54,560
Shrugged sort of thing, right?
He was like, I’m going to be the

953
00:48:54,560 –> 00:48:57,760
ultimate libertarian.
And then look how it ended up.

954
00:48:58,800 –> 00:49:03,760
And what he doesn’t understand,
and what no one of his ilk I

955
00:49:03,760 –> 00:49:08,520
think really understands, is
that to live this lifestyle he’s

956
00:49:08,560 –> 00:49:12,720
living, there’s got to be some
degree of privilege and, well,

957
00:49:12,720 –> 00:49:16,760
offness to it.
He’s benefited from the things

958
00:49:16,760 –> 00:49:21,400
he’s railing against and he just
cannot wrap his head around

959
00:49:21,560 –> 00:49:22,720
that.
You don’t.

960
00:49:22,720 –> 00:49:25,160
You don’t write a whole big long
book about how black people are

961
00:49:25,160 –> 00:49:28,080
the problem after your 8 hour
shift at Ross Dress for Less.

962
00:49:28,160 –> 00:49:29,960
You just don’t.
You’re too tired.

963
00:49:30,040 –> 00:49:33,480
Yeah, receiving significant
financial support from his

964
00:49:33,480 –> 00:49:36,200
family when he went to live the
simple life.

965
00:49:36,400 –> 00:49:39,640
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
That reminds me, there is a band

966
00:49:39,640 –> 00:49:41,640
called Tennis.
Very good band.

967
00:49:41,640 –> 00:49:46,440
But at one point they just went
and lived on a boat for a year

968
00:49:46,440 –> 00:49:49,440
to write one of their albums.
And they were doing this Reddit

969
00:49:49,600 –> 00:49:53,040
AMA about it and all the things
they had to do, like all the

970
00:49:53,040 –> 00:49:55,920
sacrifices and like how they did
it.

971
00:49:56,000 –> 00:49:58,760
And at some point someone just
jumped in with a question.

972
00:49:58,760 –> 00:50:00,920
Was like, are you going to
mention that your parents are

973
00:50:00,920 –> 00:50:04,120
rich and they had to get back in
there and be like, yeah, we

974
00:50:04,120 –> 00:50:07,040
should also mention that we have
parents that if anything went

975
00:50:07,040 –> 00:50:09,280
wrong, they would have bailed us
out immediately.

976
00:50:09,480 –> 00:50:12,280
It’s like, oh, there it is.
That that part matters.

977
00:50:12,280 –> 00:50:15,080
You’re going to send some
fucking poor person to live on a

978
00:50:15,080 –> 00:50:18,440
boat in the middle of the ocean
and then when shit goes wrong,

979
00:50:18,440 –> 00:50:20,960
their album’s never coming out
because their parents can’t bail

980
00:50:20,960 –> 00:50:22,480
them out?
Yeah, same thing with this guy.

981
00:50:22,480 –> 00:50:24,160
Fuck you.
You’re getting financial

982
00:50:24,160 –> 00:50:26,600
assistance from your family
living in the woods.

983
00:50:27,080 –> 00:50:29,880
Well, and it’s like Ted write a
useless prog rock album.

984
00:50:30,120 –> 00:50:35,480
We we know you listen to Rush,
OK Zach and hear the King

985
00:50:35,480 –> 00:50:38,240
Crimson vinyl in your in your
fucking screeds.

986
00:50:39,360 –> 00:50:42,080
He also talks about surrogate
activities.

987
00:50:42,080 –> 00:50:46,520
Those are a big deal for him.
And this is basically him saying

988
00:50:46,520 –> 00:50:51,280
if you aren’t forced to fight
for every scrap of food you eat

989
00:50:51,440 –> 00:50:54,400
and for every drop of water you
drink, then you’re just going to

990
00:50:54,400 –> 00:50:57,440
start doing stuff for fun.
And that’s, that’s not

991
00:50:57,440 –> 00:50:59,720
fulfilling.
And I, I don’t know, I feel like

992
00:50:59,720 –> 00:51:02,880
having fun and outside interest
is pretty good for a person

993
00:51:02,960 –> 00:51:05,840
myself.
I think if Ted, like went to a

994
00:51:05,840 –> 00:51:07,760
board game night or two, you
know?

995
00:51:08,120 –> 00:51:11,600
And people might be wondering,
well, what exactly did he mean

996
00:51:11,720 –> 00:51:14,680
by surrogate activities?
What kind of fun are we talking

997
00:51:14,680 –> 00:51:15,720
about?
Glad you’re asked.

998
00:51:15,720 –> 00:51:18,440
Here we go.
This is quote, scientific work,

999
00:51:18,560 –> 00:51:22,320
athletic achievement,
humanitarian work, artistic and

1000
00:51:22,320 –> 00:51:26,280
literary creation, climbing the
corporate ladder, acquisition of

1001
00:51:26,280 –> 00:51:29,520
money and material goods far
beyond the point at which they

1002
00:51:29,520 –> 00:51:32,760
cease to give any additional
physical satisfaction, and the

1003
00:51:32,760 –> 00:51:37,120
best one, and social activism
when it addresses issues that

1004
00:51:37,120 –> 00:51:40,920
are not important for the
activists personally, as in the

1005
00:51:40,920 –> 00:51:45,360
case of white activists who work
for the rights of non white

1006
00:51:45,560 –> 00:51:47,560
minorities.
End Quote.

1007
00:51:47,880 –> 00:51:49,960
This is a fucking government OP,
I don’t buy it.

1008
00:51:50,320 –> 00:51:52,360
It is so strange.
I don’t want to know what was in

1009
00:51:52,360 –> 00:51:54,840
his cabin, I want to know what
his prison cell looked like.

1010
00:51:54,920 –> 00:51:57,880
He broke two other books.
Is it even activism if it’s only

1011
00:51:57,880 –> 00:52:00,200
for your group?
Isn’t that just opportunism?

1012
00:52:00,960 –> 00:52:05,320
Yeah, activists who work for the
rights of non white minorities.

1013
00:52:05,840 –> 00:52:08,400
Yeah, he, he really is saying,
well, if you’re an activist, you

1014
00:52:08,400 –> 00:52:12,040
just like if you’re Chinese, you
only, you’re only an activist

1015
00:52:12,040 –> 00:52:13,720
for Chinese people.
And it’s like.

1016
00:52:13,720 –> 00:52:16,120
He just doesn’t trust people
doing shit for anyone else but

1017
00:52:16,120 –> 00:52:18,800
themselves.
And also, he’s failing to

1018
00:52:18,960 –> 00:52:22,480
recognize that white people
don’t really need activists.

1019
00:52:23,040 –> 00:52:25,200
Yeah, no shit.
If white people want to engage

1020
00:52:25,200 –> 00:52:29,360
in activist shit, they kind of
have to go to the oppressed

1021
00:52:29,360 –> 00:52:33,040
groups of the land, because
otherwise you’re just a white

1022
00:52:33,040 –> 00:52:35,840
supremacist.
Like an activist for white

1023
00:52:35,840 –> 00:52:39,960
people in this country is kind
of a white supremacist, because

1024
00:52:39,960 –> 00:52:43,440
white people are doing pretty
fucking good in this country.

1025
00:52:43,440 –> 00:52:46,360
Even those of us who aren’t are
doing pretty fucking good.

1026
00:52:46,600 –> 00:52:50,080
And even 30 years ago.
Yeah, it’s so wild.

1027
00:52:50,080 –> 00:52:52,600
Like it.
I mean like the the book he

1028
00:52:52,600 –> 00:52:55,080
wrote it.
I mean, it seems to be mostly

1029
00:52:55,080 –> 00:52:56,960
about like technology and all
this stuff.

1030
00:52:56,960 –> 00:53:00,720
Like the manifesto is like all
hung up on this race shit and

1031
00:53:00,720 –> 00:53:04,480
then like the later stuff
doesn’t seem to be deal with

1032
00:53:04,480 –> 00:53:06,480
that at all.
It’s kind of fucking wild.

1033
00:53:06,560 –> 00:53:08,320
Yeah, I mean, he’s got to change
the image now that he’s

1034
00:53:08,320 –> 00:53:12,240
mainstream.
This is his or bluesy and raw

1035
00:53:12,240 –> 00:53:15,480
stuff where he went corporate.
It’s Hip to Be Square by Ted

1036
00:53:15,480 –> 00:53:17,320
Kaczynski.
Or.

1037
00:53:18,400 –> 00:53:21,760
And yeah, there’s a section
about the sources of social

1038
00:53:21,760 –> 00:53:24,880
problems that it just makes no
sense.

1039
00:53:24,880 –> 00:53:27,480
It seems like he’s just saying
we need to be a little more

1040
00:53:27,480 –> 00:53:31,040
segregated than we are, which I
agree.

1041
00:53:31,040 –> 00:53:34,160
If we’re talking about social
media, I think that was a

1042
00:53:34,160 –> 00:53:36,560
problem.
I don’t know why we got it in

1043
00:53:36,560 –> 00:53:40,640
our heads that we needed to all
be hanging out in the same place

1044
00:53:40,640 –> 00:53:43,000
on the Internet.
Yahoo Groups were the way to go.

1045
00:53:43,000 –> 00:53:45,880
We should have stopped there.
But otherwise, no.

1046
00:53:46,000 –> 00:53:48,160
This is like this guy’s a
fucking Nazi.

1047
00:53:48,400 –> 00:53:51,040
Yeah, yeah.
I think we, I think are we going

1048
00:53:51,040 –> 00:53:53,480
to say the next part here, Adam?
Because I, I just think that’s a

1049
00:53:53,480 –> 00:53:55,840
really good point that like when
Nazis had their own corner of

1050
00:53:55,840 –> 00:53:58,560
the air, like when Nazis were
just on Stormfront and we all

1051
00:53:58,560 –> 00:54:01,080
went, Oh yeah, fuck those guys.
It was kind of a better system.

1052
00:54:01,160 –> 00:54:04,280
Yeah, it was way better.
And social media killed that.

1053
00:54:04,280 –> 00:54:07,840
Social media turned the Internet
into like a fucking town square

1054
00:54:07,920 –> 00:54:10,200
that everyone was forced to hang
out in and.

1055
00:54:10,320 –> 00:54:13,640
Then when you argue with the
Nazis online, you just amplify

1056
00:54:13,640 –> 00:54:15,240
their message to other people
you know.

1057
00:54:15,520 –> 00:54:17,920
Yeah, and all of a sudden my
Aunt Aaron is getting called a

1058
00:54:17,920 –> 00:54:19,720
race traitor for, you know,
like.

1059
00:54:20,160 –> 00:54:23,080
Yeah.
And so, yeah, we have been going

1060
00:54:23,080 –> 00:54:26,280
through this section by section.
But if people, if you want to go

1061
00:54:26,280 –> 00:54:28,800
read it, I’ll link to it.
It’s 58 pages long.

1062
00:54:28,840 –> 00:54:33,840
What again really bothers me is
he knows that none of these

1063
00:54:33,840 –> 00:54:37,480
things he’s talking about are
possible except for the part

1064
00:54:37,480 –> 00:54:41,440
where the government doesn’t
help you as much as it did then,

1065
00:54:41,480 –> 00:54:44,480
which, holy shit, we’re talking
80s, nineties.

1066
00:54:44,720 –> 00:54:47,200
I think even then the government
wasn’t doing a whole lot for

1067
00:54:47,200 –> 00:54:48,920
people.
Yeah, this guy really hates

1068
00:54:48,920 –> 00:54:51,400
himself and his rich parents
that he’s like, I need less

1069
00:54:51,400 –> 00:54:52,440
help.
I must.

1070
00:54:52,440 –> 00:54:54,880
I need more resistance in my
life.

1071
00:54:55,040 –> 00:54:58,240
Yeah, like did he try writing
this without financial

1072
00:54:58,240 –> 00:55:02,200
assistance from his parents?
I bet he didn’t.

1073
00:55:02,280 –> 00:55:05,760
I wonder when people are like,
all you gotta read Ted

1074
00:55:05,760 –> 00:55:07,760
Kaczynski, is it?
Are we getting?

1075
00:55:07,760 –> 00:55:11,680
The ideas that came out from his
book have been jumbled together

1076
00:55:11,680 –> 00:55:15,320
with his manifesto.
You know the way.

1077
00:55:15,320 –> 00:55:16,640
It’s possible.
Maybe.

1078
00:55:16,640 –> 00:55:20,720
Yeah, maybe the books are.
Are better or just the?

1079
00:55:21,160 –> 00:55:23,640
You got to stay with the series.
It gets better.

1080
00:55:23,640 –> 00:55:25,680
You know, the first episode
isn’t great, but.

1081
00:55:25,760 –> 00:55:27,840
Yeah, Phantom Menace isn’t the
best Star Wars movie.

1082
00:55:27,840 –> 00:55:30,120
You got to, you know, you
percolate.

1083
00:55:30,200 –> 00:55:33,200
Yeah, maybe that’s our problem.
We’re just not giving him enough

1084
00:55:33,600 –> 00:55:36,640
time to impress.
Well, I I’m not trying to defend

1085
00:55:36,640 –> 00:55:37,200
him.
I’m just.

1086
00:55:38,280 –> 00:55:41,120
I mean it is possible.
With like the ideas that we’re

1087
00:55:41,120 –> 00:55:44,800
like slaves to the machine and
you know, we’re we’re working in

1088
00:55:44,800 –> 00:55:47,920
service of technology and
technology kind of rules our

1089
00:55:47,920 –> 00:55:49,760
life or something.
It’s like some of the themes

1090
00:55:49,760 –> 00:55:52,680
that are like in his other book.
And I think that that’s kind of

1091
00:55:52,680 –> 00:55:55,800
what I think some of the message
that I think resonates with the

1092
00:55:55,800 –> 00:55:58,520
popular culture when they think
about Ted Kaczynski and not all

1093
00:55:58,520 –> 00:56:00,320
this other fucked up shit, you
know?

1094
00:56:00,320 –> 00:56:05,200
Yeah, my issue is I feel like
with Ted Kaczynski and pretty

1095
00:56:05,200 –> 00:56:09,600
much anyone who has Ted
Kaczynski’s other political

1096
00:56:09,600 –> 00:56:12,520
leanings, when he’s worried
about the government spying on

1097
00:56:12,520 –> 00:56:15,600
people, it’s because he thinks
it’s going to be a Democrat

1098
00:56:15,600 –> 00:56:17,560
government or a leftist
government.

1099
00:56:17,600 –> 00:56:20,240
I promise this motherfucker
doesn’t care about Republicans

1100
00:56:20,240 –> 00:56:22,960
spying on people because he
thinks they’re spying on the

1101
00:56:22,960 –> 00:56:26,040
right people.
So yeah, I I get that he

1102
00:56:26,080 –> 00:56:29,800
probably does make some good
arguments about surveillance and

1103
00:56:29,800 –> 00:56:33,280
things of the like, but so did
fucking Noam Chomsky in.

1104
00:56:33,480 –> 00:56:36,360
He wasn’t a vehement racist.
I mean, he’s still alive, I do

1105
00:56:36,360 –> 00:56:37,320
believe.
But like.

1106
00:56:37,480 –> 00:56:39,560
There’s still time for Noam to
do a racist.

1107
00:56:39,560 –> 00:56:41,400
He’ll turn.
Yeah, I wouldn’t.

1108
00:56:41,480 –> 00:56:43,480
I mean, it’s got to be common in
Trump’s America.

1109
00:56:43,480 –> 00:56:45,600
Him and Taylor Swift both right
everyone.

1110
00:56:45,600 –> 00:56:48,000
Gets a little senile, gets a
little, gets a little, gets a

1111
00:56:48,000 –> 00:56:49,920
little racy.
There’s also a section in this

1112
00:56:49,920 –> 00:56:53,440
called The Motives of
Scientists, and it’s all about

1113
00:56:53,440 –> 00:56:57,440
how scientists are lying when
they say they are motivated by

1114
00:56:57,440 –> 00:57:02,200
curiosity or the betterment of
society, and I don’t know.

1115
00:57:02,200 –> 00:57:03,880
So you’re saying they do their
jobs for money?

1116
00:57:03,920 –> 00:57:05,680
Why?
Yeah, that’s like a a whole

1117
00:57:05,680 –> 00:57:07,240
conservative talking point
there.

1118
00:57:07,240 –> 00:57:10,920
I mean, I’m so over that.
Like, people, I get when people

1119
00:57:10,920 –> 00:57:14,200
are corrupt, they view the world
as everybody is corrupt.

1120
00:57:14,280 –> 00:57:16,480
But yeah, the majority of people
are not corrupt.

1121
00:57:16,680 –> 00:57:19,680
You know, a lot of people do
things out of service to the

1122
00:57:19,680 –> 00:57:22,560
world or the government and, you
know, most people are doing

1123
00:57:22,560 –> 00:57:25,600
things altruistically, I think.
And most people don’t want to be

1124
00:57:25,640 –> 00:57:28,320
wildly wealthy or fucking too
bad shit.

1125
00:57:28,360 –> 00:57:31,120
But if you’re corrupt and you
want to do bad shit, that’s the

1126
00:57:31,120 –> 00:57:34,160
way you you everybody.
Yeah, I think there’s also a lot

1127
00:57:34,160 –> 00:57:36,840
of people doing bad shit who
think they’re doing oh shit,

1128
00:57:36,840 –> 00:57:39,480
altruistically.
Yeah, true.

1129
00:57:39,840 –> 00:57:42,480
Scarily enough, and I don’t
know, it’s not like scientists

1130
00:57:42,480 –> 00:57:44,280
don’t get paid off.
It’s not like Philip Morris

1131
00:57:44,280 –> 00:57:46,160
didn’t have a bunch of fucking
goons going.

1132
00:57:46,160 –> 00:57:47,520
What?
Smoking is good for your teeth?

1133
00:57:47,520 –> 00:57:49,760
It turns into a nice sturdy
shade of brown.

1134
00:57:50,600 –> 00:57:53,120
There’s a great Dead Kennedy
song about it called Well Paid

1135
00:57:53,120 –> 00:57:54,200
Scientist.
Yeah, it’s.

1136
00:57:54,560 –> 00:57:56,400
It’s definitely possible.
Yeah.

1137
00:57:56,400 –> 00:57:58,280
I mean, there’s definitely
people in every field that are

1138
00:57:58,280 –> 00:58:01,680
selling out, but I would say the
vast majority are not not.

1139
00:58:01,680 –> 00:58:05,280
Yet to say every scientist like,
yeah, like, it’s like, it’s like

1140
00:58:05,280 –> 00:58:07,000
saying every comedian just wants
attention.

1141
00:58:07,000 –> 00:58:09,200
Oh wait, that’s true.
Yeah, that part’s true.

1142
00:58:09,200 –> 00:58:13,240
But yeah, once you start making
like blanket suggestions like

1143
00:58:13,240 –> 00:58:16,760
that, like then you’re getting
into what’s happening in El

1144
00:58:16,760 –> 00:58:21,120
Salvador, where the president of
El Salvador, he’s like kind of

1145
00:58:21,120 –> 00:58:24,240
completely eliminated homicide
from El Salvador.

1146
00:58:24,320 –> 00:58:30,680
They dropped from 6000 murders
in 2015 to 114, I think in 2024.

1147
00:58:31,760 –> 00:58:35,640
And he’s like overseeing all
that, but with pretty harsh

1148
00:58:35,640 –> 00:58:39,200
tactics that a lot of
independence dependent media

1149
00:58:39,200 –> 00:58:41,320
outlets in the country have
called out.

1150
00:58:41,400 –> 00:58:45,480
So now his next thing is, oh,
well, there was this WikiLeaks

1151
00:58:45,480 –> 00:58:49,400
thing that said USAID was
spending billions of dollars

1152
00:58:49,760 –> 00:58:53,960
paying independent journalists
to plant stories about various

1153
00:58:53,960 –> 00:58:57,880
governments around the world.
And so all independent

1154
00:58:57,880 –> 00:58:59,640
journalists are money
launderers.

1155
00:58:59,720 –> 00:59:03,200
And now he’s promising to crack
down on white collar crime,

1156
00:59:03,640 –> 00:59:05,560
which of course would be money
laundering.

1157
00:59:05,560 –> 00:59:08,880
So he’s going to use that to
just like, round up journalists

1158
00:59:08,880 –> 00:59:10,680
and be like, see, I’m fighting
corruption.

1159
00:59:11,000 –> 00:59:13,840
And as long as there’s not a
plethora of gang murders in the

1160
00:59:13,840 –> 00:59:16,200
streets, no one’s going to
fucking give a shit.

1161
00:59:16,200 –> 00:59:17,640
Pretty good.
Tactically.

1162
00:59:17,640 –> 00:59:21,000
I have to give him some respect
because that is, that is a nice

1163
00:59:21,000 –> 00:59:23,160
move, yeah.
But I mean, what?

1164
00:59:23,280 –> 00:59:25,360
And we’re just taking this word
that there’s less murders.

1165
00:59:25,360 –> 00:59:28,200
I mean, is it, you know, like
how in Japan there’s in like

1166
00:59:28,200 –> 00:59:30,840
Japan, there’s no murders, you
know, all the time?

1167
00:59:31,360 –> 00:59:36,000
It’s really complicated.
There are my solo podcast this

1168
00:59:36,000 –> 00:59:39,200
week is about this.
But there are suggestions that

1169
00:59:39,200 –> 00:59:43,320
he’s made deals with the gangs
to give them like almost like

1170
00:59:43,320 –> 00:59:47,440
more autonomy to murder people
in prison instead of doing it on

1171
00:59:47,440 –> 00:59:50,600
the streets.
And then murders in custody

1172
00:59:50,600 –> 00:59:53,800
aren’t included in the murder
counts that he’s giving the

1173
00:59:53,800 –> 00:59:56,200
world.
So he’s like fudging the numbers

1174
00:59:56,200 –> 00:59:57,640
that way.
It’s all.

1175
00:59:57,720 –> 01:00:01,280
But even then, like imagine
you’re living in El Salvador and

1176
01:00:01,280 –> 01:00:04,520
there’s 6000 murders a year.
There’s 6 million people in that

1177
01:00:04,520 –> 01:00:07,240
country, less than the
population of New York City.

1178
01:00:07,480 –> 01:00:10,360
Imagine there are 6000 murders a
year in New York City.

1179
01:00:10,800 –> 01:00:13,960
No one would fucking go to New
York City and then now there’s

1180
01:00:13,960 –> 01:00:16,520
like 100 some.
You’re not really going to give

1181
01:00:16,520 –> 01:00:19,680
a shit how he did it, you’re
just going to be glad it’s done.

1182
01:00:19,720 –> 01:00:25,600
Like that guy won the 2024
Salvadoran election with 85% of

1183
01:00:25,600 –> 01:00:28,640
the vote, and you aren’t even
supposed to be able to run for

1184
01:00:28,840 –> 01:00:30,960
consecutive terms in El
Salvador.

1185
01:00:30,960 –> 01:00:34,480
He just fired the part of the
Supreme Court that would have

1186
01:00:34,480 –> 01:00:37,960
stopped him and replaced them
with his own judges and they

1187
01:00:37,960 –> 01:00:39,640
were like, sure, you can run
again.

1188
01:00:39,720 –> 01:00:41,760
And that guy’s 43.
He’s going to be running El

1189
01:00:41,760 –> 01:00:44,520
Salvador for like 50 fucking
years probably.

1190
01:00:44,680 –> 01:00:48,360
God, wow.
So I found this quote really

1191
01:00:48,440 –> 01:00:51,160
interesting.
This is right near the end.

1192
01:00:51,280 –> 01:00:53,960
Here goes.
If we had never done anything

1193
01:00:53,960 –> 01:00:57,520
violent and had committed the
present writings to a publisher,

1194
01:00:57,560 –> 01:00:59,720
they probably would not have
been accepted.

1195
01:00:59,800 –> 01:01:03,200
If they had been accepted and
published, they probably would

1196
01:01:03,200 –> 01:01:07,040
not have attracted many readers
because it’s more fun to watch

1197
01:01:07,040 –> 01:01:10,800
the entertainment but out by the
media than to read a sober

1198
01:01:10,880 –> 01:01:13,320
essay.
Even if these writings had many

1199
01:01:13,320 –> 01:01:16,640
readers, most of these readers
would soon have forgotten what

1200
01:01:16,640 –> 01:01:19,800
they have read as their minds
were flooded by the massive

1201
01:01:19,800 –> 01:01:22,440
material to which the media
exposed them.

1202
01:01:22,680 –> 01:01:25,400
In order to get our message
before the public with some

1203
01:01:25,400 –> 01:01:28,840
chance of making a lasting
impression, we’ve had to kill

1204
01:01:28,840 –> 01:01:29,920
people.
End Quote.

1205
01:01:30,000 –> 01:01:32,160
And here’s the thing, have you
ever considered maybe this is

1206
01:01:32,160 –> 01:01:35,560
just not good and that’s why it
wouldn’t get published?

1207
01:01:35,640 –> 01:01:39,320
And he’s using we.
Oh, that is because he published

1208
01:01:39,320 –> 01:01:43,600
it initially under a group name
called Freedom Club.

1209
01:01:43,720 –> 01:01:49,560
So all of the we in this is him,
I guess, still trying to kind of

1210
01:01:49,560 –> 01:01:53,680
hide his identity by tying this
to some group called Freedom

1211
01:01:53,680 –> 01:01:55,880
Club.
So that’s all we is about.

1212
01:01:55,880 –> 01:01:59,000
But yeah, I I agree with him
that this wouldn’t have gotten

1213
01:01:59,000 –> 01:02:01,960
published if he didn’t kill a
bunch of people.

1214
01:02:02,080 –> 01:02:07,200
And it’s because it’s not that
compelling in most arts.

1215
01:02:07,280 –> 01:02:11,320
And then there’s all the stuff
about how industrial society

1216
01:02:11,320 –> 01:02:14,600
can’t be reformed, and he’s
talking about these surrogate

1217
01:02:14,600 –> 01:02:18,480
activities people take on that
are never really going to see

1218
01:02:18,480 –> 01:02:21,640
their goals through.
So that’s what this manifesto is

1219
01:02:21,640 –> 01:02:23,600
too.
Like you’re just saying you’re

1220
01:02:23,600 –> 01:02:26,520
spinning your fucking wheels
right in this manifesto, but

1221
01:02:26,520 –> 01:02:29,240
you’re getting mad at everyone
else for spinning their wheels.

1222
01:02:29,520 –> 01:02:33,360
It’s almost as if this guy was
kind of crazy. 100%.

1223
01:02:33,480 –> 01:02:38,720
It’s just a normal bucket.
OK, happens to have poop in it.

1224
01:02:38,800 –> 01:02:41,640
Maybe if he just took a little
bit of grade of writing classes,

1225
01:02:41,640 –> 01:02:44,560
you know, and maybe you know,
wasn’t up his own ass.

1226
01:02:45,320 –> 01:02:48,160
Studying outdated math.
Yeah.

1227
01:02:48,160 –> 01:02:51,720
What is he like getting really
good in an Abacus or something?

1228
01:02:52,000 –> 01:02:52,760
Yeah.
What kind of what?

1229
01:02:52,760 –> 01:02:55,040
Kind of.
Math becomes irrelevant.

1230
01:02:55,040 –> 01:02:58,120
It’s it’s like the foundational
science of the language of the

1231
01:02:58,120 –> 01:03:00,000
universe.
And who decided?

1232
01:03:00,400 –> 01:03:02,080
Because there’s just a math
committee that was like, you

1233
01:03:02,080 –> 01:03:04,600
know what, fuck that math, you
don’t need it anymore.

1234
01:03:04,680 –> 01:03:10,040
I did find this bit near the end
kind of terrifying, but not

1235
01:03:10,040 –> 01:03:12,080
because of Ted Kaczynski.
Here goes.

1236
01:03:12,280 –> 01:03:15,920
Prior to that final struggle,
the revolutionaries should not

1237
01:03:15,920 –> 01:03:19,160
expect to have a majority of the
people on their side.

1238
01:03:19,240 –> 01:03:23,840
History is made by active,
determined minorities, not by

1239
01:03:23,840 –> 01:03:27,840
the majority, which seldom has a
clear and consistent idea of

1240
01:03:27,840 –> 01:03:30,840
what it really wants.
Until the time comes for the

1241
01:03:30,840 –> 01:03:35,920
final push toward revolution,
the task of revolutionaries will

1242
01:03:35,920 –> 01:03:39,600
be less to win the shallow
support of the majority than to

1243
01:03:39,600 –> 01:03:43,240
build a small core of deeply
committed people.

1244
01:03:43,320 –> 01:03:46,920
As for the majority, it will be
enough to make them aware of the

1245
01:03:46,920 –> 01:03:50,640
existence of the new ideology
and remind them of it

1246
01:03:50,640 –> 01:03:52,200
frequently.
End Quote.

1247
01:03:52,240 –> 01:03:56,000
That is fucking Trump supporters
in this country, or more

1248
01:03:56,000 –> 01:03:58,280
specifically Christian
nationalists.

1249
01:03:58,360 –> 01:04:02,640
We just did an episode about a
documentary called Bad Faith,

1250
01:04:02,640 –> 01:04:06,000
which is about Christian
nationalism in this country and

1251
01:04:06,080 –> 01:04:09,080
that’s their whole thing.
They asked a guy at the end of

1252
01:04:09,080 –> 01:04:13,760
that, well, how do you and to
the left like, bridge things and

1253
01:04:13,760 –> 01:04:16,200
move forward?
And he’s like, you don’t bridge

1254
01:04:16,200 –> 01:04:18,880
things with evil.
They have to be destroyed.

1255
01:04:18,960 –> 01:04:21,360
And that’s a small minority
group.

1256
01:04:21,360 –> 01:04:25,680
But I mean, Handmaid’s Tale
isn’t a documentary, but small

1257
01:04:25,680 –> 01:04:29,400
minority group in that series
that causes all that Handmaid’s

1258
01:04:29,400 –> 01:04:31,880
Tale shit.
And that is what Christian

1259
01:04:31,880 –> 01:04:33,680
nationalists want in this
country.

1260
01:04:33,760 –> 01:04:37,800
And it feels like they’re at
that point because they are so

1261
01:04:37,800 –> 01:04:40,880
deeply tied to the president
now.

1262
01:04:40,880 –> 01:04:43,520
Like they’re right at the
fucking door now.

1263
01:04:43,520 –> 01:04:46,960
They just got to start killing
people and then the mission will

1264
01:04:46,960 –> 01:04:49,320
be complete.
Yeah, I mean, that’s true.

1265
01:04:49,360 –> 01:04:52,480
I mean, I think that the tech
oligarchs have a different

1266
01:04:52,480 –> 01:04:54,640
agenda.
So we’ll see how it plays out.

1267
01:04:54,720 –> 01:04:57,280
Yeah, yeah, that’s the thing.
Maybe tech Bros will save us.

1268
01:04:57,600 –> 01:04:58,760
Well, I don’t think they’ll save
us.

1269
01:04:58,760 –> 01:05:02,080
I just think that there might be
like an internal war between the

1270
01:05:02,080 –> 01:05:04,040
two of them.
Yeah, I could see there being

1271
01:05:04,040 –> 01:05:06,880
some friction within the Trump
administration.

1272
01:05:06,920 –> 01:05:12,560
But yeah, Ted Kaczynski, he was
arrested April 3rd of 1996 after

1273
01:05:12,640 –> 01:05:14,560
the feds got a tip from his
brother.

1274
01:05:14,640 –> 01:05:16,840
He’s eventually convicted,
sentenced to life in prison,

1275
01:05:16,840 –> 01:05:19,320
committed suicide in prison in
2023.

1276
01:05:19,440 –> 01:05:20,960
Rats.
What’s the rush?

1277
01:05:21,440 –> 01:05:24,320
He had, he had terminal cancer.
That’s why he killed himself.

1278
01:05:24,400 –> 01:05:27,440
Did he?
Yeah, so like he was enjoying

1279
01:05:27,520 –> 01:05:29,040
life in prison up to that point.
Well.

1280
01:05:29,040 –> 01:05:31,640
Yeah, he was probably writing,
getting his fucking books out

1281
01:05:31,680 –> 01:05:33,040
there.
I got a publisher.

1282
01:05:34,080 –> 01:05:36,040
He’s like, I’m finally venturing
into fiction.

1283
01:05:36,240 –> 01:05:40,520
I’m having so much fun with it.
Well, these are all fiction,

1284
01:05:40,520 –> 01:05:41,840
honestly, and everything that
I’ve read.

1285
01:05:43,360 –> 01:05:46,240
Yeah, so that’s the Unabomber
manifesto.

1286
01:05:46,240 –> 01:05:49,440
I’ll link to it if anyone wants
to read it and get radicalized

1287
01:05:49,440 –> 01:05:52,560
in a super racist way.
It’s so stupid it’ll make you

1288
01:05:52,560 –> 01:05:55,320
less racist.
Kind of, yeah.

1289
01:05:55,400 –> 01:06:00,400
I definitely reject the notion
that the Unabomber Manifesto is

1290
01:06:00,400 –> 01:06:02,600
better reading than you would
expect.

1291
01:06:02,640 –> 01:06:05,320
It’s about what I expected, I
think.

1292
01:06:05,360 –> 01:06:07,080
Well, I mean, I don’t know.
I thought it was going to be

1293
01:06:07,080 –> 01:06:10,800
better just because people said,
but it’s not it’s.

1294
01:06:10,800 –> 01:06:13,840
Not nearly as good as like, say
for instance, the Twilight

1295
01:06:13,840 –> 01:06:16,320
series of books which were
published when Stephanie Meyers

1296
01:06:16,320 –> 01:06:18,160
did that string of anthrax
attacks.

1297
01:06:19,480 –> 01:06:22,880
True, You think it was all that
time by yourself and alone and

1298
01:06:22,960 –> 01:06:25,920
you you would have time to
really come up with a more

1299
01:06:25,920 –> 01:06:30,720
concise message, you know?
Yeah, ’cause he did deliver this

1300
01:06:30,720 –> 01:06:34,040
right at the end.
So he had his whole entire

1301
01:06:34,120 –> 01:06:37,000
Unabomber career to write this?
Also, couldn’t it be?

1302
01:06:37,000 –> 01:06:39,800
Longer 3458 pages.
Wow, that’s.

1303
01:06:40,280 –> 01:06:42,960
Yeah, that’s your entire life’s
work, bub.

1304
01:06:43,000 –> 01:06:47,000
Get out, go to a bar, hang out.
Stop being such a unibummer.

1305
01:06:49,200 –> 01:06:51,880
Exactly.
So I think that’s our episode.

1306
01:06:51,960 –> 01:06:54,640
We did it.
Dave Connor, thank you both to

1307
01:06:54,640 –> 01:06:58,120
do in the pod.
What do we have to plug before

1308
01:06:58,120 –> 01:07:01,200
we get out of here?
Besides the total destruction of

1309
01:07:01,200 –> 01:07:04,560
industrial society?
I would like you to follow me on

1310
01:07:04,560 –> 01:07:08,080
blue sky at Adam Todd Brown and
whatever the rest of that is.

1311
01:07:08,120 –> 01:07:12,640
That’s Todd with one DI want to
get off the Nazi platforms, so I

1312
01:07:12,640 –> 01:07:15,240
need a decent following
somewhere else first.

1313
01:07:15,240 –> 01:07:17,360
So follow me there.
That’s all I got.

1314
01:07:17,400 –> 01:07:20,560
Dave, what do you got to plug?
Me, I’m going to be at the

1315
01:07:20,560 –> 01:07:24,800
Sisyphus Brewing Company.
Brewing Company, Sisyphus.

1316
01:07:24,800 –> 01:07:27,360
It’s in Minneapolis, March 7th
and 8th.

1317
01:07:27,840 –> 01:07:29,800
Come on out.
There’s one show a night.

1318
01:07:29,920 –> 01:07:32,520
You’re in the Minneapolis area.
I imagine you probably have some

1319
01:07:32,520 –> 01:07:35,200
fans out there, Adam, right?
Yeah, I’ve done a bunch of shows

1320
01:07:35,200 –> 01:07:38,040
in Minneapolis.
So I’ll be there and then, you

1321
01:07:38,040 –> 01:07:41,640
know, I’m on Instagram, Dave
Waite Comedy and then I’m on

1322
01:07:41,640 –> 01:07:43,280
Threads.
I know you just said the thing,

1323
01:07:43,280 –> 01:07:46,800
but I just, you know, I get that
blue sky is probably better for

1324
01:07:46,800 –> 01:07:50,920
the world, but I I just don’t
have it in me to build it up.

1325
01:07:51,880 –> 01:07:54,760
I totally understand, Connor.
What do you got to?

1326
01:07:54,760 –> 01:07:57,680
Plug, you should definitely go
see David Tis of his brewing.

1327
01:07:57,680 –> 01:07:59,680
That’s a good club.
I like that club.

1328
01:08:00,080 –> 01:08:02,480
You can watch my comedy special
on my YouTube channel, Connor

1329
01:08:02,480 –> 01:08:06,680
Mcpadden, and listen to the Mean
Boys podcast, A Cavalcade of

1330
01:08:06,680 –> 01:08:10,000
Comedy Fun.
Oh shit, Cavalcade.

1331
01:08:10,120 –> 01:08:12,760
God damn right and.
I think that’s it.

1332
01:08:12,760 –> 01:08:15,480
Let’s get the fuck out of here.
Dave, say goodbye.

1333
01:08:16,359 –> 01:08:19,120
Hey, I want to say fuck Ted
Kaczynski, how about that?

1334
01:08:19,240 –> 01:08:21,240
And then?
Yeah, yeah, I concur.

1335
01:08:21,600 –> 01:08:23,880
Connor, say goodbye.
Who hurt little Ted?

1336
01:08:25,760 –> 01:08:27,720
Goodbye everybody.
We love you, but we hate Ted

1337
01:08:27,720 –> 01:08:28,200
Kaczynski.