Does that Inspector General’s report that’s in the headlines really debunk the theory that “undercover FBI agents” were among the Capitol rioters on January 6th? Sure, but it’s also a little more complicated than that.
The Report: https://oig.justice.gov/sites/default/files/reports/25-011_0.pdf
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Hey everybody, welcome to
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conspiracy the show.
I’m your host, Adam Todd Brown,
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joining me as Co host today.
Nobody, I’m all alone and I’m
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here to talk to you about the
news story that is at the top of
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every conspiracy theory leaning
mind in all the land right now,
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the New Jersey drones.
No, I actually covered that last
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week on the in broad daylight
podcast.
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Get it wherever podcast are at.
What I am here to talk to you
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about today is the Inspector
General’s watchdog report about
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the FBI and their actions
leading up to and on the day of
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the January 6th, 2021 capital
riots that dropped last week.
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And at a svelte 88 pages, it’s
not too labor intensive of a
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read.
Boring and frustrating in a lot
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of parts, but it’s not going to
take you a month to get through
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like those heroes who read all
400 pages of the Mueller report.
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If you want to read it yourself,
I’ll link to it in the show
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notes.
Almost everything I will mention
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today in terms of quotes, even
just general information, comes
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directly from that report.
The way this is being covered in
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the media is kind of
frustrating.
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In one corner, left-leaning
media outlets are treating this
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report as proof positive that
conspiracy theorists are wrong
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about undercover FBI agents
being the true agitators behind
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what happened on January 6th.
In the other corner, right
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leaning media outlets who are
adamant that this is all the
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evidence you need to prove they
are right and that January 6th
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was all a big FBI set up on
account of all the FBI
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informants who were present.
We’ll get to the informants
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versus agents thing later on,
but there’s also a third aspect
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back to this report that some
outlets have reported on, which
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is the idea that the FBI missed
a step in their preparation for
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January 6th that could have
helped prevent what happened.
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That part is worth talking about
too.
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It might even be the most
important finding in this
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report.
You see in the run up to huge
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events, including stuff like the
Super Bowl, that FBI will
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initiate a canvassing of all
their confidential human
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sources, as we’re supposed to
call paid informants now to
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identify possible threats that
might be directed toward that
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event.
For some reason they did that
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for almost every post election
event you can think of,
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including the meeting of the
electors on December 14th and
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the inauguration on January
20th, but not for the
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certification on January 6th.
In this report, FBI Deputy
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Director Paul Abate calls it a
quote, basic step that was
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missed.
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And I think it’s actually way
more important than that.
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And I also think it speaks to
what might be the real
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conspiracy here.
Prior to January 6th, informants
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had shared all sorts of
information about January 6th
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with to their respective
handlers and field offices,
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including that extremist members
of the Oath Keepers may become
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involved in violent activity on
January 6th.
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That the Oath Keepers contingent
heading to DC was 200 plus
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people.
They knew the travel plans being
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discussed by the Proud Boys.
They knew about a separate group
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of 500 people willing to storm
the Capitol.
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One informant related that they
had concerns for the safety of
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members of Congress on January
6th, but despite all that, the
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customary canvassing of
informants never happened, which
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is a very interesting choice.
And it wasn’t just the words of
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confidential human sources that
should have prompted the FBI to
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do a little more prep work prior
to the riots.
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This report also reminds us that
there were two separate million
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Mega March events in Washington
DC. 1 on November 14th, 2020,
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the other on December 12th,
2020.
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And that things got kind of
violent at both of those events.
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Also, the report also mentions
an FBI system called Guardian
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that’s used to keep track of
tips that they receive.
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At the end of the report there’s
an appendix that includes 16
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different Guardian system tips
that the FBI received pre
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January 6th.
And I don’t know, the tips all
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seem pretty specific to me and
definitely suggest the feds
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should have at least looked into
what might happen a little more.
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Like what about the Proud Boys
and their leader Enrique Tario
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that says, quote, these men are
coming for violence.
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They will cause mass unrest,
destruction and potentially kill
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many people in the streets of DC
on January 6th.
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And quote, or another that said,
bring food and guns.
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If they won’t listen to our
words, they can feel our lead
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come armed.
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And then one more, January 6th,
we burn the place to the ground.
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Leave nothing behind.
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And granted, these are all
mostly social media posts and
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such, but there are enough of
them just in this report to
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suggest that someone should have
had some idea that something was
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coming.
I want to reiterate, it’s
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mentioned at various points
throughout the report that the
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FBI issued all of the customary
requests for information and did
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all of the other customary FBI
things for a bunch of post
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election events like the meeting
of the electors on 1214, various
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court cases, the inauguration.
But they didn’t do it for the
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certification of the election.
There are details about several
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meetings or e-mail chains where
the matter was discussed, but
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for this one post election
activity, the one that people
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online were talking about
traveling to and carrying out
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assorted acts of aggression,
they didn’t take that step.
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The refusal to do it, at least
officially, seems like it came
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down to a matter of the tips not
including enough specific
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details or threats.
At one point, someone from the
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Washington Field Office
complaints about the abundance
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of information they’re getting
and the lack of specifics.
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Here’s a quote.
If there are no specifics, why
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are we stating violence is an
issue?
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And another.
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Lastly, while there is a better
way to tactfully say it, if
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you’re reporting says or does
not identify any violence,
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threat, criminal activity, then
why is it being reported?
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So basically, reports about
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potential violence on January
6th were met mostly with SAS,
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which is weird because in the
case of the certification in the
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Trump rally that coincided with
it, there was 0 mystery around
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when either of those things were
going to happen.
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And there’s only so many ways to
disrupt the government function
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happening inside the Capitol.
You’re going to have to get a
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lot of people inside the
Capitol.
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How much more specific do you
need this information to be?
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1 interesting moment in the
report pertains to the
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discussions about whether the
the Department of Defense or
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Department of Justice should
take the lead in the event of
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unrest.
You might remember we covered a
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documentary recently called War
Game about a war game exercise
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centered around another January
6th type event happening in the
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future.
And a lot of the talk when it
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came to calling in the National
Guard in that documentary was
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optics.
And sure enough, when the DOJ
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and DoD are going back and forth
about who should take the lead
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in the case of unrest leading up
to January 6th, the Department
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of Defenses main concern is that
they, quote, didn’t want it to
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look like a militarized event, a
militarized society.
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So they’re having all of these
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meetings with the various
agencies and the FBI keeps
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talking about no specific or
credible threats.
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And then, as if by magic, on
literally the eve of the
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certification, January 5th,
higher ups within the FBI
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finally start getting the
sinking feeling that January 6th
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was going to be a bigger problem
than they expected.
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And what’s crazy is that it’s
mentioned that this change in
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attitude was based on, quote, a
number of factors, including the
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angry rhetoric about the
election results and the fact
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that Trump would be speaking at
the Ellipse, as well as the
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domestic terror suspects who
would be traveling, and the
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crowd size.
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These are pretty much all things
that at least the FBI knew about
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well before the evening of the
5th, at least according to this
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report.
As for the angry rhetoric,
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that’s the thing the entire
country had known about for
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months.
But somehow the FBI didn’t
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connect all those dots until
January 5th.
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That seems unthinkable to me.
I don’t know that there was
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anything nefarious behind the
decision to not take this
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canvassing step in relation to
January 6th, but if you read
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this report, it’s pretty clear
that the agency could stand to
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be, I don’t know, streamlined a
little bit.
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Maybe, if I’m reading it
correctly, getting the ball
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rolling on that canvassing thing
would essentially just involve
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sending an e-mail.
You send an e-mail to your field
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offices, You tell them, hey, ask
all your confidential human
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sources if they have any
information about people
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traveling to Washington DC to
tear shit up on January 6th.
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Send all that information to us.
That’s it.
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That’s to send an e-mail.
Unless I’m completely missing
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some highly technical and
complicated step buried
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somewhere in this report that I
read every damn page of, it
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seems like they just have to
send an e-mail and there are
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what seems like two months worth
of meetings and e-mail chains
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about whether or not they should
send that e-mail.
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Just send the fucking e-mail,
all right?
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Damn.
At this point in the notes, I
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was 47 pages deep into this
report and it felt like most of
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it was just descriptions of
meetings about whether to issue
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this one request for
information.
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Meanwhile, within three hours
after the riots, the FBI did
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finally issue to a request to
field offices to, quote, canvas
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all sources including
confidential human sources,
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liaison and technical End Quote.
And it provided 2 questions that
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should be asked of those
sources.
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One, do you have any information
about, quote, the perpetrators
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of any criminal acts, End Quote,
at the Capitol.
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And two, do you know of any
plans to commit further violent
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criminal activity in Washington
DC or any other threats to
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federal facilities or other
property?
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And how hard was that?
The thing they debated doing
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tirelessly in the run up to
January 6th took three hours to
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accomplish after the fact.
Again, it’s probably not a
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nefarious thing, but it’s also
not a good thing.
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And I do find it highly
interesting that this was the
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one post election event they
decided to not hit up
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confidential informants about.
I don’t think I knew December
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14th is the day the electors
meet until this election.
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But that the FBI viewed that
event in 2020 as enough of a
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risk to warrant seeking further
information to fend off any
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potential threats.
But the certification, not so
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much.
It’s weird, it’s weird, it’s all
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even weirder.
The report says after the fact,
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the FBI started saying they did
do that canvassing.
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I feel like that’s a detail I’m
not seeing in a ton of the
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reporting around this.
But in the days after January
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6th, the FBI started getting a
lot of questions about a
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possible lack of preparedness on
their part.
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In response, they issued A9 page
chronology document called FB is
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planning, coordination and
response to US Capitol Breach.
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Under the section labeled Pre
January 6th, 2021 coordination
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summary overview, there’s a
bullet point that says the
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agency quote, canvassed all FBI
field offices to review their
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pending investigations to
determine whether any of their
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projects posed a threat to the
upcoming electoral certification
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and presidential inauguration.
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And requested their field
offices to another quote, canvas
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their confidential human sources
for any reporting regarding the
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potential for violence at such
events.
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But as this report makes clear,
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they very much did not do that.
That they said they did when
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they didn’t is portrayed in this
report as kind of an oopsie or
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or a misunderstanding, but I
don’t know.
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Read it and decide for yourself.
This oversight gets even harder
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to understand when you get to
the section in the report
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labeled Several FBI field
offices obtained intelligence
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from confidential human sources
related to January 6th, some of
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which was not adequately shared
with the Washington field
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office, or, if shared, not
adequately followed up on by the
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Washington field office.
That is a snappy title, and one
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that summarizes one of the
longest sections of this report
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perfectly.
Various FBI field offices did
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receive relatively specific
information about threats to the
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certification, and a lot of that
information either did not get
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to the office in DC that needed
it the most, or it wasn’t acted
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on when it did arrive.
Some of the concerns centered
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around Oath Keepers founder
Stuart Rhodes, who ended up
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being charged with seditious
conspiracy over his role in the
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capital riots.
As early as September 2020,
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there were field offices
gathering details about Rhodes
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and his plans to commit acts of
violence in the name of
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supporting Trump.
By November, there was talk
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about said acts of violence
taking place in DC by way of,
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quote, an armed force which
could potentially protect or
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take back the White House should
there be an attempt to remove
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the current administration.
End Quote.
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And that another quote.
Rhodes anticipates receiving
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some sort of approval or request
from the current administration
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before he and Oath Keepers would
initiate any violent action End
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Quote.
But also, no one needed
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confidential informants to be
hip to what Rhodes was planning
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because he also posted the
following statement on the Oath
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Keepers public website.
Here goes.
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We must all March on Washington
DC and directly back up and
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defend President Trump as he
fights against the ongoing coup
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that is attempting to steal the
election.
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Start rolling towards DC now.
End Quote.
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The Inspector General’s report
confirms that the FBI was aware
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of these and other website posts
that were similar in nature.
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And I don’t know, I think on the
basis of that alone, you send
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that canvassing e-mail just like
you did with everything else.
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Post election, Rhodes was so
open about his plans that one
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field office wanted to open a
domestic terrorism case against
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him based on potential
violations of the seditious
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conspiracy statute, the exact
thing he was eventually charged
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with.
In December, the same field
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office reported that Rhodes was
recruiting Oath Keepers members
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to travel with him to DC for the
events of January 6th and that
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they were, quote, very concerned
that extremist members of Oath
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Keepers or other groups may
become involved in unplanned
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violent activity on January 6th.
End Quote.
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Somehow these reports were never
emailed to the Washington field
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office.
Again, it’s just an e-mail.
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There was also information
coming in about the Proud Boys
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and their leader, Enrique Tario,
that was similarly alarming.
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And again, a lot of it was never
communicated to the Washington
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field office.
There are pages and pages and
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pages of this report that are
all about the information and
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warnings that we’re coming into
these field offices from
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confidential informants that
never gets reported to the
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Washington office.
And that’s definitely a failure
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on the part of those field
offices.
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But at the same time, if that
canvassing request was sent out,
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the Washington field office
probably would have gotten that
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information.
So now let’s talk about the two
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parts of this report that are
getting the most attention.
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Up first, the part that
left-leaning media is amplifying
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the most, which is the part
about how the FBI did not have
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any undercover employees at the
Ellipse on the National Mall or
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at the Capitol on January 6th.
That’s actually the title of the
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section about it.
It’s a really short section,
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literally 2 paragraphs that say
there’s no evidence the FBI had
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undercover agents or employees
at the Capitol that day.
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And I’m going to be honest, my
first thought upon hearing that
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wasn’t the conspiracy theorists
are wrong.
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My first thought upon hearing
there were no undercover FBI
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agents in the crowd on January
6th was why not?
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Well, as it turns out, the FBI
forbids having undercover agents
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at, quote, First Amendment
protected events absent some
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investigative authority.
End Quote.
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Was that abundance of reports,
both online and from
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confidential informants that the
Oath Keepers and Proud Boys both
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had plans to travel to DC to
tear shit up?
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Not enough to warrant some sort
of investigation?
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Apparently not, because the
report also says as an FBI field
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office asked the Washington
field office if they could send
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an undercover agent and the
request was denied.
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I personally don’t think this is
the great exoneration and
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debunking of all conspiracy
theories around January 6th that
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it’s being treated as.
And you know, I’d say it if I
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did, but so much of what the FBI
does involves informants as
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opposed to agents themselves.
There are plenty of informants
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on hand at the Capitol.
That’s the part the right
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leaning outlets are currently
howling about.
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There were 26 informants there,
in fact.
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That includes 2 who were sent
there by their respective field
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offices and a third whose field
office asked them to report on
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what they saw after he notified
them he was traveling to DC.
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The other 23 went there on their
own. 13 of them told their
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respective FBI handlers that
they were making the trip.
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Ten others did not.
It stated all throughout this
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section of the report that,
quote, no FBI confidential human
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source was authorized to enter
the capital or a restricted area
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or to otherwise break the law on
January 6th.
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Nor was any confidential human
source directed by the FBI to
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encourage others to commit
illegal acts on January 6th.
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End Quote.
That’s pretty interesting when
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you couple it with this quote.
Here goes.
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Of the 26 confidential human
sources who were in DC for the
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events of January 6th, the
records we reviewed showed that
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4 entered the capital.
On January 6th, 13 entered the
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restricted area and 9 attended
January 6th events, but did not
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enter the capital or a
restricted area or otherwise
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engage in illegal activity.
End Quote.
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And OK, So what about the ones
who did?
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Of the three that were
officially sent there by their
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handlers, 2 entered that
restricted area and one of them
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entered the capital.
That’s in addition to three
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other informants who we’ve also
been told entered the capital as
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well.
I don’t know my people on the
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left.
Do we not want any additional
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details at all about this part?
Here’s some interesting math
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that probably means nothing, but
4 informants entered the
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capital, and a fifth who was
sent there by their FBI field
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office or handler whatever
entered the restricted area, but
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not the building itself.
So that adds up to five, right?
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I don’t have a calculator on
hand, but that feels correct.
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As coincidence would have it.
That is the exact number of
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informants that the Washington
field office knew would be
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there, the report says.
If one field office officially
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sends an informant to another
field office’s area, they have
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to tell that field office that
they’re sending them.
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But if that informant is
traveling to the area of their
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own volition, there’s no such
requirement on the part of the
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field office.
Nevertheless, 1 lone field
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office that knew of two
informants traveling to DC did
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notify the Washington field
office how many of them entered
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the capital.
Was it both of them?
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I sure hope not, because that
would mean that of the four
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confidence potential human
sources present that day who did
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enter the capital, the
Washington field office knew all
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four of them were coming.
I honestly wish this report had
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an agent I could chat with or
something.
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And by that I mean a customer
service agent who will
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immediately answer my questions,
like when you’re shopping for
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car insurance and whatnot.
Because this report does not
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address how many of the five
informants the Washington field
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office knew about entered the
Capitol.
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And that feels like a huge
oversight to me because if it’s
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four out of five, that feels
like a smoking gun sort of
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thing.
It’s one thing if just that one
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informant who entered the
building was joined by three
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others randomly, but if all four
happened to be 4 of the five the
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FBI knew about, that strikes me
as a much bigger deal.
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Unfortunately, again, that’s not
addressed in the report.
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After the paragraph about how
the Washington Field Office knew
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about 5 confidential human
sources traveling to DC, the
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report moves into
recommendations for how the FBI
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can do better next time and a
response letter from the FBI
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that mostly boils down to them
pointing out all the things the
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report says they did right and
saying they don’t agree with the
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bad stuff and they’ll consider
fixing things in the future.
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So at least justice is served on
that front.
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At this point, I’m not sold on
the idea that this report is
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smoking gun proof that the FBI
was instrumental in stirring
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shit up on January 6th any more
than I am that it’s conclusive
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proof that there’s nothing at
all to see here when it comes to
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their actions that day.
If it is somehow confirmed that
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the four informants who entered
the Capitol we’re all among the
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group of five that Washington
knew was coming, then we’re
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getting a little closer to this
feeling like something way
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bigger to me.
Until then, if nothing else, I
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can definitely see this being a
let it happen because it will
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benefit us kind of thing.
Though it’s mentioned at one
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point in this report, and I
mentioned it earlier in the pod,
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that a field office wanted to
open a domestic terrorism case
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against Oath Keepers founder
Stewart Rhodes over potential
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seditious conspiracy charges,
That effort eventually failed
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because it was deemed the FBI
didn’t have sufficient evidence
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to pursue it.
Well, one of the unfortunate
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facts when it comes to a huge
national emergency type of
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incident like January 6th is
that a lot of times someone
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somewhere along the way benefits
from it somehow.
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Like how 9/11 made the Bush
administration’s foreign policy
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goals way easier to accomplish,
or how Pearl Harbor gave
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elements within the US
government and military who
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desperately wanted to enter
World War 2 all the reason they
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needed even natural disasters,
and with someone being paid to
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fix and rebuild things.
You know, along those lines.
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The FBI didn’t have sufficient
evidence to pursue Stewart
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Rhodes and his ilk as domestic
terrorists before January 6th,
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but they sure as hell did after
that day.
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It’s worth noting that part of
the FB is lukewarm response in
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the lead up to January 6th has
to do with the Department of
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Homeland Security failing to
designate the certification of
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the election as a national
security event.
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If they’d done that, the Secret
Service would have been
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responsible for event security,
and the FBI would have been the
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lead law enforcement agency on
the intelligence collection side
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of things.
Instead, because the Department
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of Homeland Security didn’t
issue that designation, these
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responsibilities fell to a
combination of the Capitol
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Police, the Metro PD, and the US
Park Police, some of the first
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names that come to mind when
conducting the kind of
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intelligence and security
operation needed to put down a
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potential insurrection.
Honestly, that part seems as
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scandalous to me as anything
else in this report.
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Secret Service is a law
enforcement agency that exists
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under the Department of Homeland
Security umbrella.
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So designating this as a
national security event would
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have meant that they’d have to
be involved in stopping the
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violence as opposed to, you
know, helping investigate the
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people who carried out the
violence afterward.
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By the end of January 2021, the
FBI had opened more than 400
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case files and issued more than
500 subpoenas and search
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warrants related to the riots.
As of right now, more than 1500
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people have been charged with
federal crimes.
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According to the Inspector
Generals report, though, the
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three informants tasked with
traveling to DC on January 6th,
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one of whom entered the Capitol
that day, a clear violation of
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laws they were instructed not to
break, are not among those 1500.
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Go figure.
But I’m sure we’ll learn all
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about them and what they got up
to inside the Capitol someday.
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Until then, that concludes this
deep dive into the Inspector
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General’s watchdog report about
the FBI and the January 6th
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riots.
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the month.
Leave the show a good review on
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ale or Spotify if you’re so
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And thanks everybody.
I love you.

