Conspiracy! The Show 315: That Report About January 6th and the FBI

December 17, 2024

Does that Inspector General’s report that’s in the headlines really debunk the theory that “undercover FBI agents” were among the Capitol rioters on January 6th? Sure, but it’s also a little more complicated than that.

The Report: https://oig.justice.gov/sites/default/files/reports/25-011_0.pdf

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Hey everybody, welcome to

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conspiracy the show.
I’m your host, Adam Todd Brown,

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joining me as Co host today.
Nobody, I’m all alone and I’m

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here to talk to you about the
news story that is at the top of

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every conspiracy theory leaning
mind in all the land right now,

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the New Jersey drones.
No, I actually covered that last

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week on the in broad daylight
podcast.

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Get it wherever podcast are at.
What I am here to talk to you

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about today is the Inspector
General’s watchdog report about

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the FBI and their actions
leading up to and on the day of

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the January 6th, 2021 capital
riots that dropped last week.

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And at a svelte 88 pages, it’s
not too labor intensive of a

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read.
Boring and frustrating in a lot

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of parts, but it’s not going to
take you a month to get through

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like those heroes who read all
400 pages of the Mueller report.

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If you want to read it yourself,
I’ll link to it in the show

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notes.
Almost everything I will mention

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today in terms of quotes, even
just general information, comes

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directly from that report.
The way this is being covered in

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the media is kind of
frustrating.

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In one corner, left-leaning
media outlets are treating this

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report as proof positive that
conspiracy theorists are wrong

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about undercover FBI agents
being the true agitators behind

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what happened on January 6th.
In the other corner, right

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leaning media outlets who are
adamant that this is all the

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evidence you need to prove they
are right and that January 6th

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was all a big FBI set up on
account of all the FBI

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informants who were present.
We’ll get to the informants

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versus agents thing later on,
but there’s also a third aspect

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back to this report that some
outlets have reported on, which

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is the idea that the FBI missed
a step in their preparation for

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January 6th that could have
helped prevent what happened.

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That part is worth talking about
too.

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It might even be the most
important finding in this

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report.
You see in the run up to huge

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events, including stuff like the
Super Bowl, that FBI will

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initiate a canvassing of all
their confidential human

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sources, as we’re supposed to
call paid informants now to

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identify possible threats that
might be directed toward that

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event.
For some reason they did that

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for almost every post election
event you can think of,

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including the meeting of the
electors on December 14th and

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the inauguration on January
20th, but not for the

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certification on January 6th.
In this report, FBI Deputy

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Director Paul Abate calls it a
quote, basic step that was

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missed.
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And I think it’s actually way
more important than that.

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And I also think it speaks to
what might be the real

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conspiracy here.
Prior to January 6th, informants

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had shared all sorts of
information about January 6th

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with to their respective
handlers and field offices,

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including that extremist members
of the Oath Keepers may become

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involved in violent activity on
January 6th.

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That the Oath Keepers contingent
heading to DC was 200 plus

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people.
They knew the travel plans being

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discussed by the Proud Boys.
They knew about a separate group

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of 500 people willing to storm
the Capitol.

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One informant related that they
had concerns for the safety of

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members of Congress on January
6th, but despite all that, the

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customary canvassing of
informants never happened, which

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is a very interesting choice.
And it wasn’t just the words of

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confidential human sources that
should have prompted the FBI to

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do a little more prep work prior
to the riots.

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This report also reminds us that
there were two separate million

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Mega March events in Washington
DC. 1 on November 14th, 2020,

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the other on December 12th,
2020.

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And that things got kind of
violent at both of those events.

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Also, the report also mentions
an FBI system called Guardian

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that’s used to keep track of
tips that they receive.

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At the end of the report there’s
an appendix that includes 16

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different Guardian system tips
that the FBI received pre

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January 6th.
And I don’t know, the tips all

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seem pretty specific to me and
definitely suggest the feds

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should have at least looked into
what might happen a little more.

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Like what about the Proud Boys
and their leader Enrique Tario

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that says, quote, these men are
coming for violence.

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They will cause mass unrest,
destruction and potentially kill

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many people in the streets of DC
on January 6th.

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And quote, or another that said,
bring food and guns.

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If they won’t listen to our
words, they can feel our lead

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come armed.
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And then one more, January 6th,
we burn the place to the ground.

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Leave nothing behind.
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And granted, these are all
mostly social media posts and

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such, but there are enough of
them just in this report to

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suggest that someone should have
had some idea that something was

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coming.
I want to reiterate, it’s

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mentioned at various points
throughout the report that the

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FBI issued all of the customary
requests for information and did

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all of the other customary FBI
things for a bunch of post

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election events like the meeting
of the electors on 1214, various

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court cases, the inauguration.
But they didn’t do it for the

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certification of the election.
There are details about several

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meetings or e-mail chains where
the matter was discussed, but

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for this one post election
activity, the one that people

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online were talking about
traveling to and carrying out

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assorted acts of aggression,
they didn’t take that step.

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The refusal to do it, at least
officially, seems like it came

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down to a matter of the tips not
including enough specific

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details or threats.
At one point, someone from the

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Washington Field Office
complaints about the abundance

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of information they’re getting
and the lack of specifics.

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Here’s a quote.
If there are no specifics, why

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are we stating violence is an
issue?

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And another.

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Lastly, while there is a better
way to tactfully say it, if

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you’re reporting says or does
not identify any violence,

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threat, criminal activity, then
why is it being reported?

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So basically, reports about

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potential violence on January
6th were met mostly with SAS,

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which is weird because in the
case of the certification in the

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Trump rally that coincided with
it, there was 0 mystery around

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when either of those things were
going to happen.

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And there’s only so many ways to
disrupt the government function

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happening inside the Capitol.
You’re going to have to get a

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lot of people inside the
Capitol.

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How much more specific do you
need this information to be?

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1 interesting moment in the
report pertains to the

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discussions about whether the
the Department of Defense or

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Department of Justice should
take the lead in the event of

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unrest.
You might remember we covered a

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documentary recently called War
Game about a war game exercise

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centered around another January
6th type event happening in the

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future.
And a lot of the talk when it

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came to calling in the National
Guard in that documentary was

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optics.
And sure enough, when the DOJ

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and DoD are going back and forth
about who should take the lead

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in the case of unrest leading up
to January 6th, the Department

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of Defenses main concern is that
they, quote, didn’t want it to

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look like a militarized event, a
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So they’re having all of these

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meetings with the various
agencies and the FBI keeps

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talking about no specific or
credible threats.

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And then, as if by magic, on
literally the eve of the

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certification, January 5th,
higher ups within the FBI

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finally start getting the
sinking feeling that January 6th

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was going to be a bigger problem
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And what’s crazy is that it’s
mentioned that this change in

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attitude was based on, quote, a
number of factors, including the

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angry rhetoric about the
election results and the fact

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that Trump would be speaking at
the Ellipse, as well as the

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domestic terror suspects who
would be traveling, and the

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crowd size.
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These are pretty much all things
that at least the FBI knew about

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well before the evening of the
5th, at least according to this

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report.
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that’s the thing the entire
country had known about for

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months.
But somehow the FBI didn’t

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connect all those dots until
January 5th.

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That seems unthinkable to me.
I don’t know that there was

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anything nefarious behind the
decision to not take this

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canvassing step in relation to
January 6th, but if you read

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this report, it’s pretty clear
that the agency could stand to

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be, I don’t know, streamlined a
little bit.

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Maybe, if I’m reading it
correctly, getting the ball

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rolling on that canvassing thing
would essentially just involve

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sending an e-mail.
You send an e-mail to your field

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offices, You tell them, hey, ask
all your confidential human

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sources if they have any
information about people

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traveling to Washington DC to
tear shit up on January 6th.

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Send all that information to us.
That’s it.

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That’s to send an e-mail.
Unless I’m completely missing

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some highly technical and
complicated step buried

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somewhere in this report that I
read every damn page of, it

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seems like they just have to
send an e-mail and there are

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what seems like two months worth
of meetings and e-mail chains

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about whether or not they should
send that e-mail.

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Just send the fucking e-mail,
all right?

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Damn.
At this point in the notes, I

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was 47 pages deep into this
report and it felt like most of

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it was just descriptions of
meetings about whether to issue

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this one request for
information.

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Meanwhile, within three hours
after the riots, the FBI did

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finally issue to a request to
field offices to, quote, canvas

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all sources including
confidential human sources,

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liaison and technical End Quote.
And it provided 2 questions that

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should be asked of those
sources.

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One, do you have any information
about, quote, the perpetrators

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of any criminal acts, End Quote,
at the Capitol.

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And two, do you know of any
plans to commit further violent

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criminal activity in Washington
DC or any other threats to

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federal facilities or other
property?

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And how hard was that?
The thing they debated doing

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tirelessly in the run up to
January 6th took three hours to

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accomplish after the fact.
Again, it’s probably not a

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nefarious thing, but it’s also
not a good thing.

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And I do find it highly
interesting that this was the

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one post election event they
decided to not hit up

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confidential informants about.
I don’t think I knew December

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14th is the day the electors
meet until this election.

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But that the FBI viewed that
event in 2020 as enough of a

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risk to warrant seeking further
information to fend off any

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potential threats.
But the certification, not so

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much.
It’s weird, it’s weird, it’s all

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even weirder.
The report says after the fact,

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the FBI started saying they did
do that canvassing.

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I feel like that’s a detail I’m
not seeing in a ton of the

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reporting around this.
But in the days after January

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6th, the FBI started getting a
lot of questions about a

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possible lack of preparedness on
their part.

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In response, they issued A9 page
chronology document called FB is

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planning, coordination and
response to US Capitol Breach.

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Under the section labeled Pre
January 6th, 2021 coordination

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summary overview, there’s a
bullet point that says the

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agency quote, canvassed all FBI
field offices to review their

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pending investigations to
determine whether any of their

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projects posed a threat to the
upcoming electoral certification

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and presidential inauguration.
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And requested their field
offices to another quote, canvas

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their confidential human sources
for any reporting regarding the

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potential for violence at such
events.

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But as this report makes clear,

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they very much did not do that.
That they said they did when

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they didn’t is portrayed in this
report as kind of an oopsie or

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or a misunderstanding, but I
don’t know.

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Read it and decide for yourself.
This oversight gets even harder

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to understand when you get to
the section in the report

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labeled Several FBI field
offices obtained intelligence

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from confidential human sources
related to January 6th, some of

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which was not adequately shared
with the Washington field

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office, or, if shared, not
adequately followed up on by the

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Washington field office.
That is a snappy title, and one

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that summarizes one of the
longest sections of this report

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perfectly.
Various FBI field offices did

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receive relatively specific
information about threats to the

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certification, and a lot of that
information either did not get

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to the office in DC that needed
it the most, or it wasn’t acted

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on when it did arrive.
Some of the concerns centered

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around Oath Keepers founder
Stuart Rhodes, who ended up

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being charged with seditious
conspiracy over his role in the

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capital riots.
As early as September 2020,

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there were field offices
gathering details about Rhodes

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and his plans to commit acts of
violence in the name of

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supporting Trump.
By November, there was talk

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about said acts of violence
taking place in DC by way of,

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quote, an armed force which
could potentially protect or

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take back the White House should
there be an attempt to remove

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the current administration.
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And that another quote.
Rhodes anticipates receiving

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some sort of approval or request
from the current administration

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before he and Oath Keepers would
initiate any violent action End

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Quote.
But also, no one needed

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confidential informants to be
hip to what Rhodes was planning

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because he also posted the
following statement on the Oath

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Keepers public website.
Here goes.

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We must all March on Washington
DC and directly back up and

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defend President Trump as he
fights against the ongoing coup

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that is attempting to steal the
election.

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Start rolling towards DC now.
End Quote.

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The Inspector General’s report
confirms that the FBI was aware

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of these and other website posts
that were similar in nature.

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And I don’t know, I think on the
basis of that alone, you send

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that canvassing e-mail just like
you did with everything else.

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Post election, Rhodes was so
open about his plans that one

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field office wanted to open a
domestic terrorism case against

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him based on potential
violations of the seditious

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conspiracy statute, the exact
thing he was eventually charged

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with.
In December, the same field

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office reported that Rhodes was
recruiting Oath Keepers members

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to travel with him to DC for the
events of January 6th and that

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they were, quote, very concerned
that extremist members of Oath

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Keepers or other groups may
become involved in unplanned

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violent activity on January 6th.
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Somehow these reports were never
emailed to the Washington field

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office.
Again, it’s just an e-mail.

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There was also information
coming in about the Proud Boys

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and their leader, Enrique Tario,
that was similarly alarming.

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And again, a lot of it was never
communicated to the Washington

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field office.
There are pages and pages and

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pages of this report that are
all about the information and

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warnings that we’re coming into
these field offices from

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confidential informants that
never gets reported to the

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Washington office.
And that’s definitely a failure

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on the part of those field
offices.

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But at the same time, if that
canvassing request was sent out,

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the Washington field office
probably would have gotten that

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information.
So now let’s talk about the two

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parts of this report that are
getting the most attention.

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Up first, the part that
left-leaning media is amplifying

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the most, which is the part
about how the FBI did not have

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any undercover employees at the
Ellipse on the National Mall or

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at the Capitol on January 6th.
That’s actually the title of the

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section about it.
It’s a really short section,

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literally 2 paragraphs that say
there’s no evidence the FBI had

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undercover agents or employees
at the Capitol that day.

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And I’m going to be honest, my
first thought upon hearing that

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wasn’t the conspiracy theorists
are wrong.

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My first thought upon hearing
there were no undercover FBI

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agents in the crowd on January
6th was why not?

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Well, as it turns out, the FBI
forbids having undercover agents

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at, quote, First Amendment
protected events absent some

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investigative authority.
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Was that abundance of reports,
both online and from

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confidential informants that the
Oath Keepers and Proud Boys both

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had plans to travel to DC to
tear shit up?

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Not enough to warrant some sort
of investigation?

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Apparently not, because the
report also says as an FBI field

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office asked the Washington
field office if they could send

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an undercover agent and the
request was denied.

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I personally don’t think this is
the great exoneration and

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debunking of all conspiracy
theories around January 6th that

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it’s being treated as.
And you know, I’d say it if I

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did, but so much of what the FBI
does involves informants as

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opposed to agents themselves.
There are plenty of informants

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on hand at the Capitol.
That’s the part the right

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leaning outlets are currently
howling about.

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There were 26 informants there,
in fact.

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That includes 2 who were sent
there by their respective field

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offices and a third whose field
office asked them to report on

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what they saw after he notified
them he was traveling to DC.

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The other 23 went there on their
own. 13 of them told their

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respective FBI handlers that
they were making the trip.

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Ten others did not.
It stated all throughout this

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section of the report that,
quote, no FBI confidential human

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source was authorized to enter
the capital or a restricted area

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or to otherwise break the law on
January 6th.

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Nor was any confidential human
source directed by the FBI to

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encourage others to commit
illegal acts on January 6th.

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End Quote.
That’s pretty interesting when

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you couple it with this quote.
Here goes.

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Of the 26 confidential human
sources who were in DC for the

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events of January 6th, the
records we reviewed showed that

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4 entered the capital.
On January 6th, 13 entered the

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restricted area and 9 attended
January 6th events, but did not

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enter the capital or a
restricted area or otherwise

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engage in illegal activity.
End Quote.

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And OK, So what about the ones
who did?

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Of the three that were
officially sent there by their

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handlers, 2 entered that
restricted area and one of them

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entered the capital.
That’s in addition to three

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other informants who we’ve also
been told entered the capital as

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well.
I don’t know my people on the

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left.
Do we not want any additional

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details at all about this part?
Here’s some interesting math

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that probably means nothing, but
4 informants entered the

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capital, and a fifth who was
sent there by their FBI field

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office or handler whatever
entered the restricted area, but

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not the building itself.
So that adds up to five, right?

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I don’t have a calculator on
hand, but that feels correct.

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As coincidence would have it.
That is the exact number of

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informants that the Washington
field office knew would be

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there, the report says.
If one field office officially

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sends an informant to another
field office’s area, they have

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to tell that field office that
they’re sending them.

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But if that informant is
traveling to the area of their

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own volition, there’s no such
requirement on the part of the

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field office.
Nevertheless, 1 lone field

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office that knew of two
informants traveling to DC did

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notify the Washington field
office how many of them entered

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the capital.
Was it both of them?

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I sure hope not, because that
would mean that of the four

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confidence potential human
sources present that day who did

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enter the capital, the
Washington field office knew all

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four of them were coming.
I honestly wish this report had

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an agent I could chat with or
something.

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And by that I mean a customer
service agent who will

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immediately answer my questions,
like when you’re shopping for

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car insurance and whatnot.
Because this report does not

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address how many of the five
informants the Washington field

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office knew about entered the
Capitol.

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And that feels like a huge
oversight to me because if it’s

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four out of five, that feels
like a smoking gun sort of

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thing.
It’s one thing if just that one

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informant who entered the
building was joined by three

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others randomly, but if all four
happened to be 4 of the five the

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FBI knew about, that strikes me
as a much bigger deal.

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Unfortunately, again, that’s not
addressed in the report.

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After the paragraph about how
the Washington Field Office knew

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about 5 confidential human
sources traveling to DC, the

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report moves into
recommendations for how the FBI

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can do better next time and a
response letter from the FBI

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that mostly boils down to them
pointing out all the things the

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report says they did right and
saying they don’t agree with the

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bad stuff and they’ll consider
fixing things in the future.

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So at least justice is served on
that front.

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At this point, I’m not sold on
the idea that this report is

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smoking gun proof that the FBI
was instrumental in stirring

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shit up on January 6th any more
than I am that it’s conclusive

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proof that there’s nothing at
all to see here when it comes to

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their actions that day.
If it is somehow confirmed that

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the four informants who entered
the Capitol we’re all among the

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group of five that Washington
knew was coming, then we’re

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getting a little closer to this
feeling like something way

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bigger to me.
Until then, if nothing else, I

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can definitely see this being a
let it happen because it will

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benefit us kind of thing.
Though it’s mentioned at one

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point in this report, and I
mentioned it earlier in the pod,

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that a field office wanted to
open a domestic terrorism case

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against Oath Keepers founder
Stewart Rhodes over potential

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seditious conspiracy charges,
That effort eventually failed

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because it was deemed the FBI
didn’t have sufficient evidence

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to pursue it.
Well, one of the unfortunate

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facts when it comes to a huge
national emergency type of

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incident like January 6th is
that a lot of times someone

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somewhere along the way benefits
from it somehow.

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Like how 9/11 made the Bush
administration’s foreign policy

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goals way easier to accomplish,
or how Pearl Harbor gave

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elements within the US
government and military who

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desperately wanted to enter
World War 2 all the reason they

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needed even natural disasters,
and with someone being paid to

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fix and rebuild things.
You know, along those lines.

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The FBI didn’t have sufficient
evidence to pursue Stewart

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Rhodes and his ilk as domestic
terrorists before January 6th,

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but they sure as hell did after
that day.

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It’s worth noting that part of
the FB is lukewarm response in

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the lead up to January 6th has
to do with the Department of

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Homeland Security failing to
designate the certification of

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the election as a national
security event.

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If they’d done that, the Secret
Service would have been

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responsible for event security,
and the FBI would have been the

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lead law enforcement agency on
the intelligence collection side

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of things.
Instead, because the Department

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of Homeland Security didn’t
issue that designation, these

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responsibilities fell to a
combination of the Capitol

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Police, the Metro PD, and the US
Park Police, some of the first

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names that come to mind when
conducting the kind of

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intelligence and security
operation needed to put down a

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potential insurrection.
Honestly, that part seems as

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scandalous to me as anything
else in this report.

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Secret Service is a law
enforcement agency that exists

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under the Department of Homeland
Security umbrella.

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So designating this as a
national security event would

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have meant that they’d have to
be involved in stopping the

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violence as opposed to, you
know, helping investigate the

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people who carried out the
violence afterward.

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By the end of January 2021, the
FBI had opened more than 400

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case files and issued more than
500 subpoenas and search

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warrants related to the riots.
As of right now, more than 1500

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people have been charged with
federal crimes.

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According to the Inspector
Generals report, though, the

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three informants tasked with
traveling to DC on January 6th,

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one of whom entered the Capitol
that day, a clear violation of

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laws they were instructed not to
break, are not among those 1500.

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Go figure.
But I’m sure we’ll learn all

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about them and what they got up
to inside the Capitol someday.

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Until then, that concludes this
deep dive into the Inspector

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General’s watchdog report about
the FBI and the January 6th

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riots.
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Save 25 on an annual
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ale or Spotify if you’re so
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And thanks everybody.
I love you.

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