Conspiracy! The Show Who Killed Michael Hastings?

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I.
Hey everybody, welcome to

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Conspiracy the show.
I’m your host, Adam Todd Brown,

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joining me as Co host this week.
My favorite Co host of all.

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No Co host, but I do have a
couple of guests.

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Case in point, she was just on
an episode recently.

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Jessica Singer’s here.
Hello.

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Jessica, how’s it going?
It’s going swell, it’s going

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swell.
My caffeine is finally kicked in

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and I’m happy to be here.
Finally.

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It took a minute this morning.
That’s why we’re recording so

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late in the afternoon.
I wanted you to tap me to kick

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in.
Thank you so much.

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Also joining us, Heather
Marouli’s here.

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Hello.
How’s it going?

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Pretty well, things are going
fine.

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Good for me considering the
past.

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It can only go up from here.
No recovering from getting hit

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by a car.
Yes.

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And I’m I’m doing well.
Things are fine.

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Thank you.
So thank you both for doing the

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pod today.
We are talking about some shit.

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I have wanted to cover this for
a long time and we just, I

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allude to it all the time on the
pod and we’ve never done a full

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episode about this.
We are talking about the death

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of investigative journalist
Michael Hastings, which happened

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in 2013.
It seems like a pretty cut and

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dry thing.
He was just in a car accident

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and died.
Or is it that cut and dry?

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I don’t know.
Let’s God damn find out.

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Did either of you have any prior
knowledge of this?

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Yep.
Mm hmm.

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I think about it every time I
drive down Highland.

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Every time I drive down
Highland, I think about Michael

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Hastings.
I can’t say, you know, it’s a

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really busy St. and it happened
in the middle of the night.

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But I still think about, and I
will talk about it, but like I

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still think about the mechanics
of that accident and how insane

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it is that the engine was so far
away from the actual car when it

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happened.
There’s a lot of weird details

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to it.
I also find the part where it

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happened on a very straight
stretch.

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Road it.
It’s a very straight St.

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Very straight and there’s lots
of curvy roads in LA, but that

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one straight.
So for people who are

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unfamiliar, let’s just talk a
little bit about Michael

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Hastings background.
He was an American journalist

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who worked for Rolling Stone and
BuzzFeed.

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Just a sidebar, BuzzFeed is
massively underrated as a media

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outlet and the thing that people
make fun of them for the most is

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just brilliant business model
shit.

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Those list articles are why they
could pay people like Michael

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Hastings to write the articles
he wrote at BuzzFeed.

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That was absolutely their
business model and it was

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fucking brilliant.
He initially gained attention

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for covering the war in Iraq in
the 2000s for Newsweek, which is

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another interesting outlet.
They are clearly not under the

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thumb of the American
government.

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And you can tell by the ship
they report that other outlets

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end up not reporting.
It’s very interesting.

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They’re the only outlet that
reported, I’ve said this a

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million times on the network of
basically undercover operatives

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that the Department of Defense
has been cultivating in the

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United States for the past 15
years or so.

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There’s more of them than there
are undercover CIA operatives.

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And that should be such a huge
story.

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And only Newsweek covered it.
Pretty fucking crazy.

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We probably know some of those
people.

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Like, their job is to just go
out into like, industries and

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movements and groups and just be
there and report back to the

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government.
I guarantee you there’s some

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fucking LA comics involved in
bullshit.

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No way there’s not.
So yeah, Hastings, he worked for

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Newsweek.
He covered the war in Iraq in

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the 2000s, but it was 2010 when
he really started making waves

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with the US government.
That’s the year he published a

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profile of General Stanley
McChrystal called The Runaway

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General.
Did either of you read this

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article?
Yeah, I wrote the whole thing.

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I listened to almost all of it
because I started it a little

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too late.
People call listening to Reddit

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now, right?
So I I read most of it.

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Yeah, yeah.
How crazy is it that this got

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him fired?
I get that he was making jokes

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about his boss but I feel like
in 2K24 this would be fucking

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blip on the radar.
No, it wouldn’t have done

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anything.
It it’s really interesting to

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think about in, you know, past
context.

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Yeah, how quickly things like
change like that.

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Yeah, and it’s interesting to
think about the administration

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it was happening under, which is
the Obama administration.

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This guy was probably the most
vocal opponent in the United

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States of the President, who is
possibly best known for drone

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striking an American citizen to
death.

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Well, people are talking about
that now way more.

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I hear people talk about the
drone strikes, he’s a war

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criminal, etcetera.
Nobody talked about that when it

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was happening because nobody, I
guess nobody, knew or didn’t

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want to acknowledge it.
I think people just didn’t want

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to acknowledge it more, so we
wanted to be like or like, not

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look into it as much, I guess
because we’re like, but he’s

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good, it’s fine.
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one, there was just a point
there where and this I feel like

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just kind of ended with Biden
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so.
But there was a point there

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where if you just criticized the
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like, oh, so you’re a Republican
now, huh?

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And I feel like that kind of
started with Obama because

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Republicans, definitely, that’s
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Once Obama got elected, for some
reason, Republicans went fucking

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crazy.
Don’t know what it was about

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Obama.
Yeah, I mean, that.

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I mean, to me, that’s why Trump
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It was like this total backlash
of like, OK, you elected that

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guy, we’re getting this guy in
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And it’s been nonsense ever
since.

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Like, unbelievable.
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And if you look throughout the
world where countries have

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elected people like Trump, it’s
a lot of times followed by that.

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It’s followed by about 8 to 10
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where this seething undercurrent
of the country feels like

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they’re not being represented
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It’s woke now.
And yeah, I think that had a lot

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to do with Trump getting
elected.

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I think you cannot discount the
fact that Obama was our first

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black president.
Oh, that’s definitely part of

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it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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I kind of thought that was
implied in our conversation.

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The whole MAGA.
Thing.

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Oh no, no, no, no.
I mean Democrats not wanting to

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criticize Obama.
Oh, OK.

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Yeah, that’s true.
Yeah, I think it’s on both

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sides.
I think he was played with like

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we played with him with kid
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Democratic side because we’re
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having more not old white men in
office.

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Yeah.
So yeah, this article parkins

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back to a different time when
you could lose your job in the

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military just for making fun of
someone in a Rolling Stone

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article.
But that’s basically what

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happened with this article.
Stanley McChrystal got fired

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very shortly after it came out.
And Obama was like, it’s not

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because of the Rolling Stone
article.

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Shut the fuck up.
Yes, it was.

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Everyone knows it was.
And he just, in this article, if

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you read it, he just repeatedly
criticizes Obama and Biden,

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makes fun of them, calls them
names.

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And he had to see this coming,
right?

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Did he think this reporter was
just not going to put any of

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that in the article?
Not writing it down, I don’t

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know, maybe.
I don’t know if he thinks about

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stuff like that.
Probably not.

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Just plainly, just like from
other things he said, he doesn’t

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seem like he’s like thinking.
You know, they talk about how he

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allegedly sleeps 4 hours a night
and eats one meal a day.

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Like he his brain might be
atrophied.

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Yeah.
He has no room.

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He has no room.
It’s focusing on like staying

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awake and staying.
Yeah.

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Yeah, and that even that ties
into like Alzheimer’s and shit.

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There’s a process that happens
in your brain that clears those

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plaques out that cause
Alzheimer’s, but you have to

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sleep a certain amount of time.
Oh, really?

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To happen?
Well, that’s interesting.

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So yeah, he’s probably just
riddled with dementia by this

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point too, and thinks it’s OK to
tell a Rolling Stone reporter in

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regards to a dinner he had to
attend with a French minister.

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Quote it’s fucking gay.
So funny choosing to have my

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laptop read this article to me.
There were some really funny

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things I said when he would like
call things Gucci or like curse

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or like, because I wouldn’t be
looking at the screen so I

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wouldn’t see it coming.
And then I just hear these

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things and I’m like, is this?
Does he know he’s funny?

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The mention of him loving the
movie Talladega Nights, I

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thought that was really
interesting.

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And then also the bit about his
wife thinking thinking gets cute

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and funny that he took her to
Jack-in-the-box or something on

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their anniversary.
No, she was already dressed up.

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Like he had her dress up, then
took her to jack-in-the-box and

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she’s like, isn’t that funny?
And it’s like, that’s awful.

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That’s actually awful.
I kind of feel bad for her.

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Unless it was like because we
met at a jack-in-the-box like.

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Talk about being ahead of his
time though.

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How many Instagram videos have
you seen where it’s the caption

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is taking my girlfriend to an
exclusive club for dinner and

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then they cut to them eating
Costco hot dogs and she’s

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looking all mad.
He should have put it on video.

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He would have kept his job.
Share that shit on social media.

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Should have vined it.
Was it in the time of Vine?

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Yeah, I think Vine was probably
the Yeah, just a six second clip

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of you pissing off your wife
goes viral, you keep your job.

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So yeah, I don’t think this kind
of scandal would get someone

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fired today.
I also don’t know that any

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outlet, maybe Rolling Stone,
would.

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They might be the exception, but
I don’t know that any outlets

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would write an article like this
anymore because mainstream

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outlets are so reliant on the
government and access to the

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government for their reporting.
Which I cannot stress enough, is

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not the way it should work.
But I don’t think a lot of major

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media outlets would want to risk
their relationship with the

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government by writing something
like this.

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Unless it was Trump, then that’s
fine because it’s not going to

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matter.
Like when the New York Times did

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that big expose of the Trump
family shielding their money

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from taxes by giving it to their
kids through, like, various

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gifts and things, it didn’t
matter.

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Nothing happened.
But he eventually turned this

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reporting into a book called The
Operators that included even

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more scandalous quotes about
McChrystal and his team.

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But there’s a really interesting
part in this book that people

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pointed to after Michael
Hastings died where he’s at a

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party with a bunch of Stanley
McChrystal staff.

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Everyone’s drunk.
And at one point, one of them

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turns to Michael Hastings and
says, you’re not going to fuck

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us, are you?
At which point another staffer

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chimes in and says, we’ll hunt
you down and kill you if we

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don’t like what you write.
And Michael Hastings chalk that

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up to drunken jokes in the book.
But where they, I don’t know.

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So I’m going to say something.
Oh, nothing.

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I think we were just face
reacting in an audio medium

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agreeing with you.
I think that’s.

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I I agree, yeah.
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like, yeah, that was probably a
lot scarier than a drunken hee

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hee moment.
Yeah, and I already mentioned a

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little Hastings was super duper
vocal about the Obama

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administration.
And I know that would make a lot

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of listeners tend to think, oh,
well, he’s like a right winger.

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Yeah, No, what he didn’t like
about Obama was Obama campaigned

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in large part on ending all of
the crazy war shit George W Bush

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was doing, including promising
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he never did.
But then when he got in office,

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it was the exact opposite.
He didn’t do anything to scale

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any of the war shit back.
He just kind of expanded it by

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introducing this drone program
into the mix as if that was like

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a more ethical way to fight
wars.

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And I don’t know about that.
He also took issue with the

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Obama administration spying on
journalists.

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He in May 2013 went on a podcast
and in response to a question

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about the drone strike program
that started under Obama, he

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said, quote, Obama enshrines
killing people and spying on

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journalists as the two major
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state.
End Quote.

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I think he would in today’s
political climate, I think this

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guy would get labeled a right
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this, even though he’s just
making valid criticisms of

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Obama’s performance in office.
But I don’t know that people

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would take it that way today.
I’m surprised they did back

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then.
I don’t think.

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I think even back then, people
were probably like, oh, so

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you’re a right winner then.
He also called an MSNBC

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contributor named Perry Bacon a
quote stenographer for the White

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House.
Drag him.

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Yeah, I wonder what Perry Bacon
said in response.

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But that’s the problem.
Now almost every journalist is a

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stenographer for to the White
House again, Zeppelin.

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Trump’s in office.
But even then, kind of so

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shortly after Obama’s re
election, Hastings published an

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e-book called Panic 2012, the
sublime and terrifying inside

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story of Obama’s final campaign.
And in February 2012, he

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partnered up with WikiLeaks,
fucking uh oh, and published

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another Rolling Stone article
that detailed the Department of

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Homeland Security’s efforts to
monitor the Occupy Wall Street

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movement.
Remember that shit that didn’t

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do anything?
I remember that it, it was many

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years, wasn’t it?
Like I don’t know how many years

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that was.
It lasted a while.

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I I moved to New York briefly in
late 2011 and it was still kind

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of going then, I believe.
Wait a second, why does the

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Wikipedia say it only lasted 59
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Are we having a Mandela Effect
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Oh, it could be.
Yeah, maybe it wasn’t used.

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I think there were some people
who were there for years.

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Probably.
They might have just been

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homeless though.
Sorry.

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People who were like voluntarily
living in a tent or something.

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I don’t know.
I was in college.

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I don’t have a lot of memories.
Yeah, I don’t remember how long

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it lasted. 59 days sounds more
right than years.

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That’s what it says, but it says
for the wider movement, see

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Occupy movement.
And that says it was from 2011

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to 2016, OK Occupy movement was
an international populist socio

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political movement that
expressed opposition to social

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and economic inequality.
And that was September twenty,

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11th November 2016.
So maybe that’s what I’m

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thinking of, yeah.
Probably same but different.

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Hastings was also the first
person to cover the story of

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Bowie Bergdahl, who was an
American soldier who basically

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deserted the military in
Afghanistan and ended up being a

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prisoner of war.
And in his profile of Bergdahl,

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Hastings suggested that there
were some people within the

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Department of Defense who did
not want him to be returned

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because of the things he knew
about what we were doing in

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Afghanistan.
But he was eventually they freed

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in 2014 and immediately faced
charges of desertion from the

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military sidebar.
Bowie Bergdahl was the subject

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of season 2 of the Serial
podcast, which I’ve still never

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listened to.
Oh, I didn’t either.

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I listened to the first season.
Oh, I didn’t listen to the first

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season.
I have, I have not.

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I don’t think it surprises
anybody that I haven’t listened

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to Serial.
Are you not a big true crime

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person?
I I’ll watch like documentaries.

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If I’m going to learn about
stuff like that, I’m going to

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watch it.
I’m not going to listen to it.

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Yeah, Serial.
I think the biggest impact it

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had on the world was for a while
there everyone decided their

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shit needed to be a series.
And when I say everyone I mean

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people running comedy shows.
Like there I would see comedy

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shows where it was like volume
three season 4 episode 6.

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It’s like shut the absolute fuck
up, what is wrong with you?

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You are doing a God damn comedy
show.

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No one has volumes of your
comedy show at home on their

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shelves you fucking weirdos.
God comics are weird.

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They are Jesus.
The worst people, honestly.

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So the last article Hastings
published was a BuzzFeed piece

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called Why Democrats Love to Spy
on Americans and it came out

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right after Was it Glenn?
Is it Glenn Greenwald?

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Is that his name?
Who?

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Yeah.
Who I think is probably a good

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example of the path Michael
Hastings career might have taken

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had he not tragically died in
Hancock Park.

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Because Glenn Greenwald is also
an investigative journalist, and

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you’ll hear a lot of people on
the left now who are like, man,

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fuck that guy.
And I don’t know exactly why,

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but I feel like there was a
pretty strong effort to

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discredit him and make him look
like a bad person when he’s one

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of the most vocal opponents of
the American government and one

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of the most honest opponents of
the American government.

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He doesn’t criticize the
American government from a, oh,

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I’m a Republican, I’m a Democrat
kind of position.

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It’s more a I’m questioning the
government, which that is

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getting more and more rare these
days.

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Yeah.
I think Glenn Greenwald lives in

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like, fucking Venezuela now.
Brazil.

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Brazil.
Well, because didn’t his husband

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get cancer and didn’t he pass
away?

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Could be.
I think I think he died and

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Glenn is down there with their
children.

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Yeah, that’s a bummer.
If I’m not mistaken at.

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Least he didn’t get his car
hacked.

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He did not get his car hacked,
no.

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And after Greenwald reported on
all that, that’s when Hastings

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wrote this article about why
Democrats love to spy on

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Americans.
And it was all about how

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Democrats, and this is all true
in 2006 and 2008 both, one of

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the things they campaigned
really hard on was, well, check

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out how the Bush administration
is spying on you.

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Don’t you want all that to go
away?

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We’re the good guys.
We’re going to get rid of all

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that.
And they did not, they

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dramatically expanded spying on
Americans under the Obama

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administration.
And that was one of Michael

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Hastings big sticking points
with Obama.

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So now let’s talk about his
death.

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He was killed on June 18th,
2013, approximately 4:25 AM in a

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single vehicle car crash in the
Hancock Park neighborhood of Los

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Angeles.
Is this?

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Close to where you live,
Heather.

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No, but I it’s a street.
Sometimes I pick to work.

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I’m on it frequently.
It’s a popular street, very

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popular street.
I take Highland to work

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everyday, yeah.
Yeah, witnesses said his car was

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traveling at a high rate of
speed, so much so that was

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creating sparks and flames
before crashing into a palm

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tree.
And surveillance video from

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around the scene seems to
confirm those reports.

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Heather already mentioned this.
The cars engine was ejected and

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it was like 50 to 60 yards from
the crash site.

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Why?
That’s so sketchy.

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I mean, to me it just it sounds
like a bomb like like a pile

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type.
Yeah, it sounds like something

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exploded because I’ve seen.
I mean, I don’t know, I guess if

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there’s a skeptic out there who
wants to dig into it.

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Find me a bunch of pictures of
car accidents where the engine

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flew 50 to 60 yards away.
Especially if you’re hitting a

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tree, it seems like you hit it
head on.

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Wouldn’t the engine just like?
Get crushed in it, yeah.

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Honestly, even just like one
other example, like I know you

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said, like many other examples,
was there like one or two other?

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Things I think I think maybe it
could happen in like a Formula

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One crash where there’s like
where they’re they’re driving so

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fast that.
Like.

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Debris can like fly crazy
distances but.

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OK.
One other resident, potential

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cash, you know.
I got a regular car accident

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like this it to me this it makes
no sense.

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No, I agree with that.
And his body was burned beyond

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recognition.
Very convenient.

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And very shortly after the
crash, the LAPD swooped in to

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assure the world there was no
evidence of foul play.

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Oh, thank God.
Yeah, since when do we not trust

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the LAPD, you know?
Have they lied before?

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I don’t think so.
I don’t think they have ever

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lied about anything and that’s
that’s why I trust them

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inherently.
Are you hearing this, LAPD?

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If you ever pull me over, just
know Adam Todd Brown trusts you

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inherently.
So I feel like any situation

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like this is very complicated.
You see this with Gary Webb

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also, who is the journalist who
broke the story about the CIA

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selling crack in the United
States.

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He eventually committed suicide
and it’s one of the weirdest

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suicides ever ever because he
shot himself twice in the head.

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Wait, what?
I never heard.

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About this, yeah.
The first shot went through his

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cheek and then the second shot
killed him.

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I think he was trying to make it
look like the CIA killed him

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when he shot himself the first
time because the CIA wouldn’t

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miss.
They’re not going to fucking

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miss shooting someone in the
head.

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And what’s really complicated
about it is his entire family

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swears he committed suicide.
And the other thing that makes

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me think, unlike Michael
Hastings, that Gary Webb wasn’t

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killed by the government, By the
time he committed suicide, the

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government had killed him.
He was still alive, but he had

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no fucking career.
He had no money.

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He was living with his mom the
night he committed suicide.

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His motorcycle got stolen, and
that was like his last God damn

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worldly possession.
So I think he killed himself.

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And I think that first shot
might have been, oh, well, if

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there’s two shots, they’ll think
the CIA did it and that’ll put

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some stink on them forever.
But I don’t think the CIA had

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reason to kill Gary Webb by that
point.

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Michael Hastings, on the other
hand, I absolutely think they

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had reason to kill him.
But you see the same thing where

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his family and his friends are
like, I don’t know, he was

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pretty depressed at the time and
he was acting pretty weird.

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Did he have a mental health
diagnosis of anything other than

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depression?
Was he bipolar or anything like

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that?
I haven’t read anything where he

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was specifically diagnosed with
that, but there is a quote from

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his brother.
His brother was apparently in LA

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at the time Michael Hastings
died because he was trying to

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orchestrate a intervention of
some sort and he thought Michael

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Hastings was having a drug
induced manic episode at the

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time he died.
And I get that, but also,

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wouldn’t that make it the
perfect time for the government

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to swoop in and kill him in a
way that looked like it could

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maybe have been suicide?
Yeah, no, that would they go

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well together in like a gross
way, Yeah, like to time that,

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yeah.
And I don’t know if I believe

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this, but there’s a theory out
there about Jimmy Hoffa that

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00:24:43,800 –> 00:24:47,960
suggests this serial killer
named Edward James Edwards.

442
00:24:48,080 –> 00:24:49,400
Is it Edward James or Edward
Ray?

443
00:24:49,400 –> 00:24:51,480
Hold on.
Edward Wayne Edwards.

444
00:24:51,560 –> 00:24:55,720
The, and it’s actually Edward
Wayne Edwards son who suggests

445
00:24:55,720 –> 00:24:58,840
that Edward Wayne Edwards might
have killed Jimmy Hoffa because

446
00:24:58,840 –> 00:25:01,000
Edward Wayne Edwards was a
serial killer.

447
00:25:01,080 –> 00:25:04,720
He was a serial killer of
opportunity where he would just,

448
00:25:04,920 –> 00:25:07,600
oh, if I can commit this murder
and fucking get away with it,

449
00:25:07,600 –> 00:25:10,040
I’m going to do it.
He was in Jimmy Hoffa’s inner

450
00:25:10,040 –> 00:25:15,400
circle at the time Jimmy Hoffa
died and he witnessed this big

451
00:25:15,400 –> 00:25:19,880
fight that Jimmy Hoffa had with
one of his associates right

452
00:25:19,880 –> 00:25:22,760
before he died.
And Edward Wayne Edwards son

453
00:25:22,760 –> 00:25:25,000
thinks so.
I think he saw that fight and

454
00:25:25,000 –> 00:25:27,960
knew if he killed Jimmy Hoffa in
that moment, they would blame it

455
00:25:27,960 –> 00:25:29,840
on that guy he had the fight
with.

456
00:25:29,920 –> 00:25:32,960
And this could have been the CIA
acting in that way.

457
00:25:33,040 –> 00:25:36,560
Yeah, because he was also
emailing his friends and family

458
00:25:36,560 –> 00:25:40,360
and telling them the FBI was
going to be talking to them.

459
00:25:40,480 –> 00:25:43,680
And everyone talked about how
weird he was acting, how he was

460
00:25:43,680 –> 00:25:46,480
agitated and paranoid.
Well, and if they’re hacking his

461
00:25:46,480 –> 00:25:48,720
car, they’re hacking his e-mail.
Sorry to interrupt you.

462
00:25:48,880 –> 00:25:51,840
Well, yeah, absolutely.
And the idea that he was

463
00:25:51,840 –> 00:25:56,880
agitated and paranoid, I mean,
this is a corny thing to quote

464
00:25:56,880 –> 00:26:00,440
in this moment, but there’s a
line from a Nirvana song that

465
00:26:00,440 –> 00:26:03,160
says just because you’re
paranoid don’t mean they’re not

466
00:26:03,160 –> 00:26:05,600
after you.
And it seems like they were

467
00:26:05,600 –> 00:26:08,360
after this guy when he was
paranoid about the government

468
00:26:08,360 –> 00:26:09,880
being after him.
Wait.

469
00:26:10,480 –> 00:26:13,160
Did his brother say what drugs
he was doing?

470
00:26:13,320 –> 00:26:15,600
Like was he doing coke?
But this is my question, was he

471
00:26:15,600 –> 00:26:19,040
doing cocaine they found?
Weed and amphetamines in his.

472
00:26:19,040 –> 00:26:22,480
System OK well I mean
amphetamines and cocaine make

473
00:26:22,480 –> 00:26:26,600
you really paranoid yeah I think
he had a reason to be paranoid

474
00:26:26,760 –> 00:26:31,560
but that it got turned up even
higher by that drug 1000.

475
00:26:31,560 –> 00:26:34,120
Percent, yeah, it’s not going to
make it better.

476
00:26:34,520 –> 00:26:38,240
Yeah, meth is not the drug to do
when you’re afraid the

477
00:26:38,240 –> 00:26:41,120
government is following you.
Yeah, but that’s how you think

478
00:26:41,120 –> 00:26:42,720
faster and you get ahead of
them.

479
00:26:42,720 –> 00:26:48,840
No, I’m just kidding.
But also, that paranoia, a lot

480
00:26:48,840 –> 00:26:51,880
of it turned out to not be
unwarranted.

481
00:26:52,080 –> 00:26:55,200
In the days before he died, he
started, like I said, emailing

482
00:26:55,200 –> 00:26:58,320
friends and colleagues to tell
them the FBI might be knocking

483
00:26:58,320 –> 00:27:03,120
on their door to ask questions.
The FBI, after he died, denied

484
00:27:03,280 –> 00:27:06,120
that they were surveilling
Michael Hastings or that they

485
00:27:06,120 –> 00:27:08,920
had any files on him.
To which the rest of the world

486
00:27:09,080 –> 00:27:12,560
replied, fucking yeah, right.
And of course, it later came

487
00:27:12,560 –> 00:27:15,880
out, the FBI absolutely
surveilling Michael Hastings.

488
00:27:16,160 –> 00:27:18,920
They had a file on him.
There was a Freedom of

489
00:27:18,920 –> 00:27:21,000
Information Act request that was
filed.

490
00:27:21,240 –> 00:27:24,440
The FBI tried to ignore it, and
these two journalists took them

491
00:27:24,440 –> 00:27:27,520
to court to get Michael Hastings
files.

492
00:27:27,520 –> 00:27:32,240
So we know the FBI lied about
whether they were following this

493
00:27:32,240 –> 00:27:35,320
guy.
And one of, I think the most

494
00:27:35,320 –> 00:27:39,080
interesting detail, and I think
the detail that points to this

495
00:27:39,080 –> 00:27:44,800
not being an accident, is around
12:30 AM the morning he died,

496
00:27:44,880 –> 00:27:48,200
Michael Hastings went to his
neighbor’s house, a woman named

497
00:27:48,200 –> 00:27:52,480
Jordana Thigpen, and asked if he
could borrow her car because he

498
00:27:52,480 –> 00:27:56,320
was afraid to drive his own car.
He said the car had been

499
00:27:56,320 –> 00:27:57,480
tampered with.
That’s.

500
00:27:57,760 –> 00:27:59,800
Huge.
That’s so huge.

501
00:28:03,040 –> 00:28:07,360
So significant like literally
less than 4 hours before his car

502
00:28:07,360 –> 00:28:09,960
killed him.
This is a quote from her.

503
00:28:10,000 –> 00:28:13,080
She just said he was scared and
he wanted to leave town.

504
00:28:13,200 –> 00:28:15,080
End Quote.
But she didn’t give him her car

505
00:28:15,080 –> 00:28:18,000
because she said her car had
mechanical issues.

506
00:28:18,000 –> 00:28:19,560
Probably didn’t have a car bomb
in it.

507
00:28:20,880 –> 00:28:23,640
But yeah.
He was like, do you want to

508
00:28:23,640 –> 00:28:25,800
trade cars?
And she was like, no, I don’t

509
00:28:25,800 –> 00:28:26,280
want to die.
It’s.

510
00:28:28,160 –> 00:28:31,320
Like come on, it’s a Mercedes.
I don’t know.

511
00:28:31,320 –> 00:28:33,960
And now I just like wonder what
they actually did because I feel

512
00:28:33,960 –> 00:28:37,440
like when there have been, you
know, like in movies, sometimes

513
00:28:37,440 –> 00:28:40,000
they’ll have like, you know,
somebody goes into a car and

514
00:28:40,000 –> 00:28:43,000
they turn the ignition at the
car just blows up right then.

515
00:28:43,360 –> 00:28:45,360
Yeah.
Like, is that a real thing

516
00:28:45,360 –> 00:28:47,320
they’ve done in real life?
Like Godfather.

517
00:28:47,320 –> 00:28:49,360
Style.
Yeah, like Godfather or like

518
00:28:49,360 –> 00:28:52,360
this is the Pelican Brief.
The Pelican Brief where like

519
00:28:52,360 –> 00:28:54,920
they, they, they were, they were
thinking about turning the

520
00:28:54,920 –> 00:28:56,960
ignition.
They’re like, wait, no, they

521
00:28:57,000 –> 00:28:59,680
don’t do it.
When when you say have they done

522
00:28:59,680 –> 00:29:01,560
it, do you mean the American
government or has that?

523
00:29:01,720 –> 00:29:04,360
Happened, but the government or
like somebody trying to kill

524
00:29:04,360 –> 00:29:07,000
somebody, like is that an
accurate like if that’s how they

525
00:29:07,040 –> 00:29:09,520
portray it in the movies, is
that as soon as you turn on the

526
00:29:09,560 –> 00:29:12,240
ignition, the car blows up, But
is that realistic?

527
00:29:12,680 –> 00:29:16,080
I think so that would that seems
like it would be an obvious way

528
00:29:16,080 –> 00:29:19,600
to trigger an explosive.
Yeah, maybe too obvious this

529
00:29:19,600 –> 00:29:21,280
time.
Well, that’s what I’m wondering,

530
00:29:21,280 –> 00:29:24,880
like, how would the mechanics of
this particularly work?

531
00:29:24,880 –> 00:29:28,880
So like he was driving and then
what happened exactly?

532
00:29:29,040 –> 00:29:31,960
I mean this is maybe had to like
hit a certain speed.

533
00:29:32,480 –> 00:29:36,720
So just the fact that he showed
up asking to borrow that car

534
00:29:36,760 –> 00:29:39,200
tells me at least he didn’t kill
himself.

535
00:29:39,320 –> 00:29:43,480
He didn’t like intentionally
drive his car into this tree.

536
00:29:43,480 –> 00:29:47,200
Because if you’re planning to
just kill yourself, why Like you

537
00:29:47,200 –> 00:29:49,720
would just get in your car that
you thought was tampered with

538
00:29:49,760 –> 00:29:52,440
and let the government have
their fucking way with you.

539
00:29:52,720 –> 00:29:54,960
Which seems like it’s exactly
what happened.

540
00:29:55,040 –> 00:29:58,320
But that makes me think he did
not commit suicide.

541
00:29:58,440 –> 00:30:03,680
Also, at the time of his death,
he was working on a profile of

542
00:30:03,680 –> 00:30:08,240
then CIA Director John Brennan
and his role in an Obama

543
00:30:08,240 –> 00:30:12,000
administration effort to crack
down on investigative

544
00:30:12,280 –> 00:30:15,560
journalists.
So he had already taken down a

545
00:30:15,560 –> 00:30:18,920
fucking military general with
one of his profiles.

546
00:30:19,000 –> 00:30:23,560
And he was not only working on
this story about CIA Director

547
00:30:23,560 –> 00:30:27,320
John Brennan, he told people he
needed to, like, go off the grid

548
00:30:27,400 –> 00:30:31,600
for a few days to work on it
because he was concerned about

549
00:30:31,640 –> 00:30:33,880
being followed by the
government.

550
00:30:34,520 –> 00:30:37,360
So that is all weird.
And then there’s this.

551
00:30:37,440 –> 00:30:41,000
Shortly after he died, former
U.S. intelligence official

552
00:30:41,000 –> 00:30:45,440
Richard Clark revealed that the
technology to allow someone to

553
00:30:45,440 –> 00:30:49,960
hack a car existed and that the
crash was consistent with a

554
00:30:49,960 –> 00:30:52,240
cyber attack.
This is kind of a long quote.

555
00:30:52,520 –> 00:30:54,560
Here goes.
There is reason to believe that

556
00:30:54,560 –> 00:30:58,600
intelligence agencies for major
powers, including the United

557
00:30:58,600 –> 00:31:02,200
States, know how to remotely
seize control of a car.

558
00:31:02,240 –> 00:31:05,120
What has been revealed as a
result of some research at

559
00:31:05,120 –> 00:31:09,640
universities is that it’s
relatively easy to hack your way

560
00:31:09,640 –> 00:31:13,520
into the control system of a car
and to do such things as cause

561
00:31:13,520 –> 00:31:17,240
acceleration when the driver
doesn’t want acceleration, to

562
00:31:17,240 –> 00:31:19,760
throw on the brakes when the
driver doesn’t want the brakes

563
00:31:19,760 –> 00:31:23,640
on to launch an airbag.
You can do some really highly

564
00:31:23,640 –> 00:31:27,960
destructive things now through
hacking a car and it’s not that

565
00:31:27,960 –> 00:31:29,880
hard.
So if there were a cyber attack

566
00:31:29,880 –> 00:31:33,680
on the car, and I’m not saying
there was, I think whoever did

567
00:31:33,680 –> 00:31:35,720
it would probably get away with
it.

568
00:31:35,760 –> 00:31:37,880
End Quote.
That’s Richard Clark.

569
00:31:37,960 –> 00:31:44,040
And I remember hearing about
that, and it sounds crazy, and

570
00:31:44,040 –> 00:31:47,600
people treated it like it was a
crazy suggestion.

571
00:31:47,600 –> 00:31:50,960
But I feel like you don’t even
have to think about it that long

572
00:31:50,960 –> 00:31:53,760
to realize it’s not crazy.
You’re just talking about

573
00:31:53,760 –> 00:31:56,080
hacking a computer.
So what if it’s in a car?

574
00:31:56,240 –> 00:32:00,160
Like people hack baby monitors.
They hack fucking home

575
00:32:00,160 –> 00:32:03,280
surveillance systems.
If it’s a computer, you can

576
00:32:03,280 –> 00:32:07,360
fucking hack it.
Yeah, so for years that was just

577
00:32:07,400 –> 00:32:11,280
a thing that had been suggested,
but everyone treated it like

578
00:32:11,320 –> 00:32:15,840
science fiction type shit.
But in 2017, WikiLeaks released

579
00:32:15,960 –> 00:32:20,320
a bunch of CIA documents, and
among them was proof that the

580
00:32:20,320 –> 00:32:24,480
CI, as Center for Cyber
Intelligence, had been exploring

581
00:32:24,480 –> 00:32:29,600
methods to hack into vehicle
systems since at least 2014.

582
00:32:30,080 –> 00:32:34,320
But the fact that Richard Clark
gave that quote in 2013 makes me

583
00:32:34,320 –> 00:32:38,000
think the intelligence community
knew about this shit way before

584
00:32:38,040 –> 00:32:41,200
2014.
And one of the documents was

585
00:32:41,200 –> 00:32:44,640
meeting notes that showed the
CIA has a division called the

586
00:32:44,640 –> 00:32:49,400
Embedded Development Branch that
was discussing a list of targets

587
00:32:49,440 –> 00:32:52,760
that could be hacked.
And it included vehicle systems,

588
00:32:52,800 –> 00:32:56,520
which was referring to computer
systems that started being built

589
00:32:56,520 –> 00:33:00,000
into cars in the 2000s.
And it mentions 1 specifically

590
00:33:00,000 –> 00:33:04,480
called QNX, which at that point
in history was in use in more

591
00:33:04,480 –> 00:33:08,680
than 50 million vehicles across
at least 14 different brands,

592
00:33:09,040 –> 00:33:12,960
accounting for 50% of the market
share for modern cars.

593
00:33:13,720 –> 00:33:17,880
That was part of my question is
what year vehicles is this in

594
00:33:17,880 –> 00:33:20,840
because I think my car is so old
that no one can hack it and I’m

595
00:33:20,840 –> 00:33:25,400
safe so in case I have an enemy.
I mean my car can get hacked by

596
00:33:25,400 –> 00:33:27,840
a fucking USB.
You can break into a Hyundai

597
00:33:27,840 –> 00:33:30,800
with a USB port so.
I heard from that.

598
00:33:31,160 –> 00:33:35,000
Yep, I use an old school thing
on my wheel because you can

599
00:33:35,000 –> 00:33:37,440
lock.
And you use the club?

600
00:33:37,760 –> 00:33:41,600
I use the club.
Wow, I love seeing an old school

601
00:33:41,600 –> 00:33:46,280
club out there.
It is what the Hyundai

602
00:33:46,280 –> 00:33:48,920
dealership and my local mechanic
have been like.

603
00:33:48,920 –> 00:33:50,960
Hey, you just got to use a club.
Wow.

604
00:33:52,240 –> 00:33:56,840
In 2024, OK.
This QNX computer system that is

605
00:33:56,840 –> 00:34:02,000
mounted in a bunch of cars, it’s
normally tied to Bluetooth and

606
00:34:02,000 –> 00:34:04,120
Wi-Fi and things like that.
It’s described as an

607
00:34:04,120 –> 00:34:07,240
entertainment system, but it can
also be used for things like

608
00:34:07,240 –> 00:34:12,120
accelerating and braking.
And this was one of the systems

609
00:34:12,120 –> 00:34:15,560
that in this WikiLeaks document,
the CIA talked about maybe

610
00:34:15,560 –> 00:34:18,560
having access to being able to
hack.

611
00:34:18,639 –> 00:34:22,239
And what’s worse is it doesn’t
just run cars.

612
00:34:22,239 –> 00:34:25,920
There’s like trains that use
this program, buses.

613
00:34:25,920 –> 00:34:30,800
There’s so many things that if
an intelligence outfit got the

614
00:34:30,800 –> 00:34:33,639
means to hack it, they could
cause a lot of fucking

615
00:34:33,719 –> 00:34:37,600
destruction without people
really ever knowing what

616
00:34:37,600 –> 00:34:39,960
happened.
And for the record, Hastings was

617
00:34:39,960 –> 00:34:44,960
driving a Mercedes when he
crashed and those do use the QNX

618
00:34:45,080 –> 00:34:47,960
system.
Only problem here is the CIA

619
00:34:47,960 –> 00:34:52,400
memo was dated 2014 and Hastings
died in 2013.

620
00:34:52,920 –> 00:34:54,639
Oh well, then it couldn’t have
been them.

621
00:34:54,840 –> 00:34:56,719
Yeah, couldn’t possibly have
been.

622
00:34:57,120 –> 00:35:02,120
See, my first thought when I
realized that discrepancy was,

623
00:35:02,120 –> 00:35:05,160
oh, maybe the CIA just planted
this document.

624
00:35:05,160 –> 00:35:09,640
But if they just did an Adobe
edit, they just, they just

625
00:35:09,640 –> 00:35:13,240
deleted the three and what, a
four or something?

626
00:35:14,400 –> 00:35:17,040
Yeah, it wouldn’t surprise me
because then if anyone came

627
00:35:17,040 –> 00:35:18,360
asking, they could be like,
what?

628
00:35:18,360 –> 00:35:20,360
We didn’t kill that guy.
We didn’t even start looking

629
00:35:20,360 –> 00:35:24,800
into this stuff until 2014.
That seems so impossible to

630
00:35:24,800 –> 00:35:26,760
believe because they’ve been
killing people for decades.

631
00:35:28,520 –> 00:35:30,160
Like what are they talking
about?

632
00:35:30,480 –> 00:35:33,320
Yeah, that’s the thing.
The CIA, I mean, this

633
00:35:33,320 –> 00:35:36,400
government, we have a pretty
long track record of killing

634
00:35:36,400 –> 00:35:37,520
people.
It’s just whether you want to

635
00:35:37,520 –> 00:35:39,640
believe the government did it or
not.

636
00:35:39,880 –> 00:35:44,560
But I’m sorry, it’s 2024.
There can’t possibly be anyone

637
00:35:44,560 –> 00:35:48,080
out there who still thinks that
string of assassinations in the

638
00:35:48,080 –> 00:35:51,440
60s was just all lone nuts.
Right.

639
00:35:51,520 –> 00:35:53,200
Yeah.
I do think there’s people that

640
00:35:53,200 –> 00:35:55,000
still think that.
Oh, I think there are.

641
00:35:55,000 –> 00:35:56,680
Yeah, absolutely.
OK, I thought you were saying

642
00:35:56,680 –> 00:35:58,720
that no one thinks that anymore.
I’m like, Oh no, there’s

643
00:35:58,760 –> 00:36:02,000
definitely.
I just can’t imagine thinking

644
00:36:02,000 –> 00:36:02,960
that.
No.

645
00:36:03,400 –> 00:36:05,440
Well, I mean that they were
Patsy.

646
00:36:05,440 –> 00:36:08,640
Some of them you know.
Well, yeah, I think James or Ray

647
00:36:08,640 –> 00:36:13,080
definitely didn’t kill MLK, but
so does his family and a jury in

648
00:36:13,080 –> 00:36:16,160
a civil trial.
But also, even with that

649
00:36:16,160 –> 00:36:19,720
discrepancy, who says it was the
CIA who did this?

650
00:36:19,840 –> 00:36:24,040
I feel like, and I know I’m
guilty of this, I just say CIA

651
00:36:24,120 –> 00:36:27,040
when I mean American
intelligence.

652
00:36:27,120 –> 00:36:31,360
But the CIA is busy toppling
foreign governments.

653
00:36:31,440 –> 00:36:34,960
This could have been fucking
naval intelligence, could have

654
00:36:34,960 –> 00:36:38,600
been the FBI, could have been
the fucking Postal Inspection

655
00:36:38,600 –> 00:36:42,240
Service.
It could have been so many of

656
00:36:42,240 –> 00:36:46,800
the, I think 18 intelligence
agencies we have in the United

657
00:36:46,800 –> 00:36:49,440
States.
So if the CIA was just looking

658
00:36:49,440 –> 00:36:53,240
into this in 2014, it could have
been them being like, do you

659
00:36:53,240 –> 00:36:55,440
hear what fucking Naval
intelligence did the Michael

660
00:36:55,440 –> 00:36:57,200
Hastings?
We got to figure out how to do

661
00:36:57,200 –> 00:36:59,720
that shit.
That’s crazy because we know

662
00:36:59,720 –> 00:37:02,640
these agencies don’t talk.
That’s fucking how 9/11

663
00:37:02,640 –> 00:37:06,240
happened.
The FBI and the CIA were just

664
00:37:06,240 –> 00:37:08,840
like keeping information to
themselves because they’re so

665
00:37:08,840 –> 00:37:10,040
competitive.
Yeah, I was going to say,

666
00:37:10,080 –> 00:37:11,720
they’re almost competing with
one another.

667
00:37:11,720 –> 00:37:14,960
Yeah.
Yeah, so if the CIA just started

668
00:37:14,960 –> 00:37:18,240
looking into this in 2014, I
wouldn’t be surprised if it was

669
00:37:18,240 –> 00:37:21,560
because of Michael Hastings.
And they were like, oh, who did

670
00:37:21,560 –> 00:37:23,720
that?
We need that shit.

671
00:37:23,800 –> 00:37:26,880
So this doesn’t do anything to
make me feel like Michael

672
00:37:26,880 –> 00:37:28,800
Hastings wasn’t murdered by the
government.

673
00:37:28,880 –> 00:37:32,560
It just makes me think maybe it
wasn’t the CIA because the CIA

674
00:37:32,880 –> 00:37:36,960
isn’t supposed to operate in the
United States anyway, which we

675
00:37:36,960 –> 00:37:38,880
don’t need them to.
We have so many other

676
00:37:38,880 –> 00:37:41,840
intelligence agencies.
But whatever the case, it seems

677
00:37:41,840 –> 00:37:43,920
like hacking a car isn’t
impossible.

678
00:37:44,000 –> 00:37:47,160
And again, it’s just a computer.
You can hack a computer, You can

679
00:37:47,160 –> 00:37:49,520
hack car.
You can hack the computer in a

680
00:37:49,520 –> 00:37:51,040
car.
And the fact that Michael

681
00:37:51,040 –> 00:37:55,200
Hastings, I wish he would have
went into detail when he told

682
00:37:55,200 –> 00:37:57,280
his neighbor that his car was
being tampered with.

683
00:37:57,320 –> 00:38:00,960
I wish he would have told her
exactly what was happening

684
00:38:01,040 –> 00:38:04,120
because I wonder if he was
having issues with like, it

685
00:38:04,120 –> 00:38:06,680
accelerating when it shouldn’t
have or braking when it

686
00:38:06,680 –> 00:38:10,680
shouldn’t have, because then,
yeah, I’d be fucking terrified

687
00:38:10,720 –> 00:38:13,160
if I was him and that shit was
happening.

688
00:38:13,160 –> 00:38:15,160
But last thing I want to talk
about.

689
00:38:15,400 –> 00:38:17,920
It’s probably not all that
surprising that this story

690
00:38:17,920 –> 00:38:21,080
involves a few figures who’ve
gone on to be involved with

691
00:38:21,080 –> 00:38:24,520
right wing outfits like Crowd
Boys or Q Anon.

692
00:38:24,600 –> 00:38:27,560
And one of the e-mail.
This, this is really fucking

693
00:38:27,600 –> 00:38:29,360
interesting to me.
Yeah.

694
00:38:29,640 –> 00:38:33,680
One of the emails Hastings sent
the day before he died was to a

695
00:38:33,680 –> 00:38:38,400
guy named Joe Briggs, who at the
time was just a military guy.

696
00:38:38,400 –> 00:38:41,440
I think he was in Afghanistan
and Hastings talked to him for

697
00:38:41,520 –> 00:38:44,400
his coverage on Afghanistan or
Iraq, one of the two.

698
00:38:44,520 –> 00:38:49,720
But since then, he is a member
of the Proud Boys who has been

699
00:38:49,720 –> 00:38:54,240
indicted in relation to the
January 6th insurrection.

700
00:38:54,280 –> 00:38:59,560
He is a family friend of the
Flynns, meaning Michael Flynn,

701
00:38:59,640 –> 00:39:03,280
the Q Anon enthusiast who kind
of sort of helped orchestrate

702
00:39:03,280 –> 00:39:07,280
January 6th, and Charles Flynn,
one of Michael Flynn’s brothers.

703
00:39:07,400 –> 00:39:11,920
Both of them were in Afghanistan
when Hastings published this

704
00:39:11,920 –> 00:39:16,120
article and got their boss,
Stanley McChrystal fired.

705
00:39:16,200 –> 00:39:20,040
Charles Flynn was head of
intelligence in Afghanistan when

706
00:39:20,040 –> 00:39:23,680
that happened.
And now Fast forward to 2023.

707
00:39:23,720 –> 00:39:27,800
Someone tweeted at Joseph Flynn,
who was Michael Flynn and

708
00:39:27,800 –> 00:39:31,480
Charles Flynn’s brother, about
all of these weird connections

709
00:39:31,560 –> 00:39:36,120
between Joe Biggs and the Flynn
family and Michael Hastings.

710
00:39:36,200 –> 00:39:40,200
And instead of just ignoring
that tweet or just replying and

711
00:39:40,200 –> 00:39:42,440
saying, Nope, we didn’t have
anything to do with it.

712
00:39:42,480 –> 00:39:46,840
Joseph Flynn first replied,
Michael H had some problems with

713
00:39:46,840 –> 00:39:49,840
his car that night.
Too bad, so sad.

714
00:39:49,880 –> 00:39:52,840
Which what do you mean by
problems with his car?

715
00:39:52,880 –> 00:39:56,520
That has never been said.
It’s only been said that he had

716
00:39:56,520 –> 00:39:58,600
a car accident.
He was driving too fast and he

717
00:39:58,600 –> 00:40:00,720
spun out.
What problems did he have with

718
00:40:00,720 –> 00:40:03,200
his car?
He also added, Well, it’s true.

719
00:40:03,280 –> 00:40:06,440
Very sad how that accident.
Happened.

720
00:40:06,520 –> 00:40:10,360
He was a relatively young guy.
Again, what the fuck do you mean

721
00:40:10,360 –> 00:40:14,960
by how that accident happened?
What would he know about how

722
00:40:14,960 –> 00:40:17,800
that accident happened?
And again, he could just be

723
00:40:17,800 –> 00:40:22,080
trolling or whatever, but that
would be a very tricky thing to

724
00:40:22,080 –> 00:40:24,920
troll people over.
It’s a very cocky troll.

725
00:40:24,920 –> 00:40:29,360
If it’s a troll, yeah, it’s like
he feels like he can’t.

726
00:40:29,560 –> 00:40:32,120
He’s untouchable if you can say
things like that.

727
00:40:32,200 –> 00:40:34,640
Which I’m sure he is.
Like, if this was a government

728
00:40:34,720 –> 00:40:37,160
initiative to kill Michael
Hastings, no one’s going to

729
00:40:37,240 –> 00:40:39,760
fucking go to jail for it.
So I don’t know, maybe Michael

730
00:40:39,760 –> 00:40:42,640
Flynn killed Michael Hastings.
Maybe he was the one who was

731
00:40:42,640 –> 00:40:45,160
behind it.
Or he’s just in support of it.

732
00:40:45,240 –> 00:40:48,560
Yeah, I mean, either way,
Michael Flynn, Charles Flynn

733
00:40:48,560 –> 00:40:51,320
were both in Afghanistan
working, understanding Stanley

734
00:40:51,320 –> 00:40:54,840
McChrystal when Michael Hastings
wrote this article that got

735
00:40:55,200 –> 00:40:58,000
still fired.
Joe Biggs is one of the last

736
00:40:58,000 –> 00:41:01,800
people Michael Hastings
contacted before he died.

737
00:41:01,880 –> 00:41:04,440
That’s when he was like reaching
out and telling people the FBI

738
00:41:04,440 –> 00:41:07,520
might be knocking on your door.
And I’m working on this big

739
00:41:07,520 –> 00:41:09,600
story about the director of the
CIA.

740
00:41:09,640 –> 00:41:14,160
So who knows who Joe Biggs went
and told after that and what

741
00:41:14,160 –> 00:41:17,680
happened from there.
But it seems like the Flynns

742
00:41:17,680 –> 00:41:20,880
fucking know something about
what happened to Michael

743
00:41:20,880 –> 00:41:22,960
Hastings.
And we’ll link to all this shit

744
00:41:22,960 –> 00:41:24,760
so people can read it for
yourself.

745
00:41:24,800 –> 00:41:28,320
The tweets from Joseph Flynn, if
you can believe it.

746
00:41:28,320 –> 00:41:30,240
His account has since been
suspended.

747
00:41:30,840 –> 00:41:36,320
Uh Oh yeah to an article that
has screenshots.

748
00:41:36,440 –> 00:41:38,440
I’ve been suspended before too,
you know.

749
00:41:38,560 –> 00:41:40,320
Was it because you killed
Michael Hastings?

750
00:41:40,400 –> 00:41:44,520
That’s right.
Yeah, that’s that’s why.

751
00:41:45,520 –> 00:41:48,000
If you haven’t been suspended
from Twitter, are you even

752
00:41:48,000 –> 00:41:51,320
living?
Exactly, exactly.

753
00:41:52,000 –> 00:41:53,200
Thank you.
Yeah, I know.

754
00:41:53,240 –> 00:41:54,960
I support it.
I don’t know what happened, but

755
00:41:54,960 –> 00:41:59,200
I’m sure I support it.
No, I always, I always just get

756
00:41:59,200 –> 00:42:02,000
in trouble when I’m fighting
like misogynists online.

757
00:42:02,000 –> 00:42:03,840
They’re like you.
Were mean you were mean to.

758
00:42:03,920 –> 00:42:07,000
A man you were mean to a man,
you’re banned.

759
00:42:07,240 –> 00:42:09,360
I mean, in their defense, don’t
be mean to men, you know?

760
00:42:09,360 –> 00:42:10,640
OK.
Geez.

761
00:42:10,640 –> 00:42:12,360
Yeah.
I’ll I’ll try not to.

762
00:42:13,040 –> 00:42:17,840
Men ever done to deserve that.
They’ve done some stuff.

763
00:42:19,960 –> 00:42:23,000
So what do we think?
Was Michael Hastings murdered?

764
00:42:23,000 –> 00:42:24,360
Yeah.
Yeah.

765
00:42:25,200 –> 00:42:29,000
I what I mean one hundred 100%.
Yeah, it’s almost.

766
00:42:29,240 –> 00:42:32,040
Crazier if he wasn’t at this.
Point yeah, no if.

767
00:42:32,040 –> 00:42:34,840
He wasn’t murdered then this
needs to be like.

768
00:42:34,840 –> 00:42:38,400
Steady.
Well, whatever model there needs

769
00:42:38,400 –> 00:42:41,080
to be a Mercedes recall.
Why didn’t they do that?

770
00:42:41,360 –> 00:42:44,640
They’re not like, I mean, it
makes no sense.

771
00:42:44,720 –> 00:42:47,800
No, that’s a great point.
Yeah, and I never did hear any

772
00:42:47,800 –> 00:42:51,840
of that follow up.
Aren’t they able to test debris

773
00:42:51,840 –> 00:42:56,320
from an explosion for C4 and
like other explosive type stuff?

774
00:42:56,320 –> 00:43:01,040
Yes, but when you say they, it
has to be a government agency

775
00:43:01,040 –> 00:43:05,200
that’s willing to do that.
Government agency like the NTSB

776
00:43:05,200 –> 00:43:07,560
or something?
They are not neutral.

777
00:43:09,800 –> 00:43:12,920
I think it’s kind of an oxymoron
to say a neutral government

778
00:43:12,920 –> 00:43:14,720
agency.
That’s the agency that

779
00:43:14,720 –> 00:43:17,160
investigates accidents.
Yeah, sure.

780
00:43:17,680 –> 00:43:21,960
They weren’t involved at all.
Well, NTSB is like airline and.

781
00:43:22,120 –> 00:43:25,400
No, I know usually it’s like,
you know, plane crashes.

782
00:43:25,880 –> 00:43:29,320
And so they will investigate a
traffic accident if it’s big

783
00:43:29,320 –> 00:43:32,120
enough, like they investigated
the, do you remember that

784
00:43:32,120 –> 00:43:34,240
limousine crash in upstate New
York?

785
00:43:34,600 –> 00:43:36,440
Oh yeah.
For like 20 people with that.

786
00:43:36,560 –> 00:43:39,320
See, that’s the thing I think
they investigate when it’s like,

787
00:43:40,200 –> 00:43:42,520
yeah, a a vehicle that’s
carrying people, sure.

788
00:43:42,520 –> 00:43:44,880
Carrying more than one person or
more than probably like three

789
00:43:44,880 –> 00:43:48,000
people or whatever.
Yeah, I did a bunch of episodes

790
00:43:48,000 –> 00:43:50,280
about the death of Paul
Wellstone.

791
00:43:50,400 –> 00:43:57,120
He was the only senator who
openly opposed the war in Iraq.

792
00:43:57,120 –> 00:44:02,800
He was the main opponent to
George W Bush’s foreign policy.

793
00:44:02,800 –> 00:44:11,560
He died in a plane crash.
That is highly suspicious and I

794
00:44:11,560 –> 00:44:14,040
did I think 3 or 4 episodes
about it.

795
00:44:14,040 –> 00:44:16,560
There’s a good book out there
called The Murder or the

796
00:44:16,560 –> 00:44:20,880
Assassination of Paul Wellstone,
but it’s very hard to find now.

797
00:44:20,880 –> 00:44:27,000
But they make a pretty good case
that he was killed in a plane

798
00:44:27,000 –> 00:44:29,800
crash that was caused
deliberately.

799
00:44:29,840 –> 00:44:35,080
And part of that conspiracy
involves the NTSB showing up and

800
00:44:35,080 –> 00:44:37,480
being like, Yep, nothing to see
here, don’t worry about it.

801
00:44:37,560 –> 00:44:39,920
And people are like, there’s
shit to see there.

802
00:44:39,960 –> 00:44:43,240
We know you’re fucking lying.
So yeah, I don’t, I don’t know.

803
00:44:43,360 –> 00:44:46,720
If the NTSB showed up, I
wouldn’t trust them to tell the

804
00:44:46,720 –> 00:44:50,160
truth about what happened here.
And yeah, there it would be an

805
00:44:50,160 –> 00:44:52,840
easy thing to test for.
But when the LAPD swoops in and

806
00:44:52,840 –> 00:44:57,080
goes Nope, no foul play.
They just get rid of the debris.

807
00:44:57,480 –> 00:45:01,000
Yeah, that’s a thing you see in
a lot of conspiracies is if the

808
00:45:01,000 –> 00:45:04,880
police show up and decide it’s
nothing, that’s a lot of times

809
00:45:04,880 –> 00:45:06,520
where it ends.
That’s the case with Kurt

810
00:45:06,520 –> 00:45:10,440
Cobain, where it was just a beat
cop who was like, oh, this looks

811
00:45:10,440 –> 00:45:13,360
like suicide in Seattle PD was
like, all right, I guess we

812
00:45:13,360 –> 00:45:15,840
won’t investigate then.
It’s like, damn, I think you

813
00:45:15,840 –> 00:45:18,440
should have investigated, but
that ship has sailed.

814
00:45:18,520 –> 00:45:20,760
So yeah, I think Michael
Hastings was murdered by.

815
00:45:20,800 –> 00:45:23,440
The.
Government, and I don’t think he

816
00:45:23,440 –> 00:45:25,400
was the first to be murdered by
the government.

817
00:45:25,400 –> 00:45:27,840
This shit isn’t new.
They’ve been doing that for a

818
00:45:27,840 –> 00:45:31,680
long time by this point, and I
think that’s our episode.

819
00:45:32,000 –> 00:45:34,720
Do we have any final thoughts?
I’m sorry, there’s no real

820
00:45:34,720 –> 00:45:38,360
resolution to this other than
the latest update being Joseph

821
00:45:38,360 –> 00:45:42,480
Flynn putting out shady tweets
about what might or might not

822
00:45:42,560 –> 00:45:44,520
have.
Happened now I, I’m going to

823
00:45:44,520 –> 00:45:47,360
continue to think about this
every six months for the rest of

824
00:45:47,360 –> 00:45:50,880
my life, Like every six months.
I’m like Michael Hastings, what

825
00:45:50,880 –> 00:45:54,040
happened there?
I, I talked to all my Co workers

826
00:45:54,040 –> 00:45:55,360
about this.
I was like, do you remember

827
00:45:55,360 –> 00:45:56,840
Michael Hastings?
They’re like, what are you

828
00:45:56,840 –> 00:45:59,640
talking about?
Like, you know, the guy who died

829
00:45:59,640 –> 00:46:03,400
in that weird car crash.
Yeah, it does seem like it’s

830
00:46:03,440 –> 00:46:07,200
pretty much a forgotten moment
in history now, like we’ve just

831
00:46:07,360 –> 00:46:09,560
moved on.
It happened under Obama.

832
00:46:09,600 –> 00:46:12,800
So everyone associates
government malfeasance with

833
00:46:12,800 –> 00:46:14,680
Republicans, unless you’re a
Republican.

834
00:46:14,760 –> 00:46:18,640
Yeah, it happened when I was
very much not paying attention

835
00:46:18,640 –> 00:46:20,600
to the news, like around that
time.

836
00:46:20,600 –> 00:46:22,440
So now think about it all the
time.

837
00:46:23,560 –> 00:46:26,160
Yeah.
But yeah, that’s crazy.

838
00:46:26,240 –> 00:46:28,480
Yeah, it’s a crazy fucking
story.

839
00:46:28,680 –> 00:46:31,160
Also, who’s tweeting in 2023?
No, I’m just kidding.

840
00:46:31,360 –> 00:46:33,360
Nazis.
Unfortunately, I am.

841
00:46:33,480 –> 00:46:36,080
Yeah, with the Nazis.
The Nazis are also there.

842
00:46:37,240 –> 00:46:39,360
Well, thank you for being on the
other side.

843
00:46:39,360 –> 00:46:45,560
So they have some sort of some
sort of people to fight against.

844
00:46:45,680 –> 00:46:49,920
I gave up.
Yeah, I I can’t do Twitter.

845
00:46:50,040 –> 00:46:52,000
So I think that’s our episode,
right?

846
00:46:52,000 –> 00:46:53,200
You did it.
We did it.

847
00:46:53,520 –> 00:46:55,200
We did it, meaning we killed
Michael Hayson.

848
00:46:55,200 –> 00:46:56,240
We did it.
We solved it.

849
00:46:56,360 –> 00:47:00,040
We solved, yeah.
We have solved the case.

850
00:47:00,040 –> 00:47:05,400
I assume Obama is going down
tomorrow soon as this episode

851
00:47:05,400 –> 00:47:09,280
comes out.
Thanks Obama and thank you 2 for

852
00:47:09,280 –> 00:47:12,720
doing the podcast.
What do we have to plug?

853
00:47:12,760 –> 00:47:14,760
This seems like a great time to
plug.

854
00:47:15,280 –> 00:47:18,000
I would like people to listen to
my solo podcast in Broad

855
00:47:18,000 –> 00:47:20,640
Daylight, which will be back
this week or next.

856
00:47:20,920 –> 00:47:26,240
I this is tax time for me, so
that’s been very busy, but it’ll

857
00:47:26,240 –> 00:47:28,480
be back very soon.
You can listen to it wherever

858
00:47:28,480 –> 00:47:31,080
podcasts are at or watch it on
YouTube at Adam Todd Brown

859
00:47:31,080 –> 00:47:33,160
Comedy and follow me on
Instagram.

860
00:47:33,160 –> 00:47:36,400
I guess Adam Todd, Brown Todd
with 1D Jessica, what do you got

861
00:47:36,400 –> 00:47:41,600
to plug?
Oh, you know, the usual I I

862
00:47:41,600 –> 00:47:44,520
changed my Instagram handle
because apparently it was hard

863
00:47:44,520 –> 00:47:47,680
to read.
So now it’s Jess period.

864
00:47:47,680 –> 00:47:52,600
I period can’t period singer
because it was Jess, I can’t

865
00:47:52,600 –> 00:47:56,480
singer and everyone thought it
was Jessica NT singer.

866
00:47:56,680 –> 00:47:59,120
So that’s that’s obviously very
interesting and I should keep

867
00:47:59,120 –> 00:48:01,800
talking about it.
No, but yeah, follow me and I’ll

868
00:48:01,800 –> 00:48:04,160
I’ll be performing around
Heather.

869
00:48:04,480 –> 00:48:07,320
Yes.
When is this being released?

870
00:48:09,080 –> 00:48:11,960
I don’t know a week or.
So, OK, well, you know, if it’s

871
00:48:11,960 –> 00:48:17,560
too late, if it’s too late, I,
I, so October 13th, I’m doing

872
00:48:17,560 –> 00:48:20,160
stand up comedy at Chatterbox
Comedy Night.

873
00:48:20,160 –> 00:48:22,560
And then the week after that,
I’m going to be in San

874
00:48:22,560 –> 00:48:26,240
Francisco.
I should be, I should be on the

875
00:48:26,480 –> 00:48:29,400
Punchline showcase that night of
the 20th.

876
00:48:29,400 –> 00:48:33,360
But listen, sometimes things
don’t work out in show business

877
00:48:33,400 –> 00:48:37,360
and that’s OK.
So I might be honest, I might

878
00:48:37,360 –> 00:48:39,840
not, you know, somebody needs to
go back to the ASAP.

879
00:48:39,840 –> 00:48:41,760
OK, so.
I.

880
00:48:42,200 –> 00:48:46,880
Am also on Twitter and Instagram
at fixed air Heather but on

881
00:48:46,880 –> 00:48:51,000
TikTok I’m at unruly Maruli
which I’m posting more on TikTok

882
00:48:51,000 –> 00:48:56,040
now because that’s what you’re
supposed to do and I’m obeying.

883
00:48:56,040 –> 00:48:59,360
I’m obeying the show business
gods by doing a TikTok.

884
00:49:00,000 –> 00:49:05,400
I do not.
I was going to say I’m on like a

885
00:49:05,400 –> 00:49:09,560
weird, crazy drunken Stoner
thing on October 30th.

886
00:49:09,560 –> 00:49:12,880
Come check out whatever that is.
It’s from like 4:00 PM to

887
00:49:12,880 –> 00:49:16,560
midnight.
I don’t know when I’m on. 4:00

888
00:49:16,560 –> 00:49:20,600
PM to midnight, you a tennis.
Tournament and then I’m on

889
00:49:20,640 –> 00:49:23,880
secondhand Sundays, which is I’m
on weed shows this month.

890
00:49:23,960 –> 00:49:27,720
Come on.
No one’s listening anymore.

891
00:49:27,920 –> 00:49:31,040
Let’s get out of here, Jessica.
Say goodbye.

892
00:49:31,640 –> 00:49:33,280
Well, no one’s listening.
Bye.

893
00:49:33,720 –> 00:49:37,720
Heather, say goodbye.
Goodbye and RIP Michael

894
00:49:37,720 –> 00:49:40,120
Hastings.
Goodbye everybody, we love you.