Conspiracy! The Show 303: The Five Eyes Are Watching You

October 15, 2024

Adam and Connor welcome comedian Danielle Radford to talk about an intelligence alliance that dates back to WWII and why you should care about it now more than ever.

Show notes: https://conspirapod.link/ep303

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I.
Hey everybody, welcome to

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Conspiracy the Show.
I’m your host Adam Todd Brown,

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joining me as Co host this week.
Connors here.

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How’s it going, man?
How’s it going, Adam?

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Just fantastic.
Excited for today’s topic and we

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have a fantastic guest in the
proverbial room, Danielle

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Radford’s here.
Hi, I’m a guest in the

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proverbial room.
In the proverbial room, we’re

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not all in the same room.
That’s the side room at the

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comedy club for the B&C level
headliners.

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Yeah, the.
Proverbial room.

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It seats 40 to 50.
It’s a proverbially on.

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It could be pretty good, but,
you know, not usually.

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That’s where I do my weekly
showcase.

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I have been threatening to do a
series of episodes about the

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various intelligence agencies of
the United States, and that is

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finally happening.
The first episode upcoming will

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be about Naval Intelligence,
which is actually the country’s

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first ever intelligence agency.
Stay tuned for that.

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I thought that was belly button
science.

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What?
Naval Intelligence.

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I get it.
I hate that I didn’t get it at

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first.
It’s also the study of oranges,

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yes.
It is, yeah.

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Too today, we are not talking
about a specific intelligence

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agency, we’re talking about an
intelligence alliance called the

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Five Eyes.
Yeah, yeah.

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Yeah, yeah, It’s an alliance.
It’s like Survivor, but only the

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white people win.
So it’s like Survivor?

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Exactly.
This is always one of these

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things that comes up in
conspiracy theories where I

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always go, there’s got to be
more there.

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New Zealand’s up to something,
you know.

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Never trust a Kiwi.
A bunch of white people on an

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island is usually never.
You know that’s how Yaqoob got

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started.
Come on.

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Connor, you mentioned there has
to be something more to stuff

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like this.
I did an episode about this in

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2021 on the Unpopular Opinion
podcast, and I mentioned that,

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hey, maybe this is about white
supremacy a little bit because

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of the countries involved and
all the things they share.

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And someone actually got in the
comments and told me that they

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went on the Five Eyes website
and didn’t find anything about

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white supremacy.
So I’m wrong.

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It’s like, Oh yeah, that’s how
that would work.

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They would just have.
To be fair, sometimes you go on

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these websites, Adam, and you
know this and it’ll be like the

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Five Eyes is the foundation
rooted in white supremacy.

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Like it’s just right there in
the yeah, the mission statement.

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So you got to check.
I mean the CIA has freaking shit

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about the Hindu Vedas and UFOs
from the 1950s and their goddamn

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website.
I think, yeah, there’s also a

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lot of people who are from the
newer generations not to get

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all, like, back in my day, our
dog whistles were dog whistles.

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They didn’t say the quiet part
out loud.

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Now there’s a generation of
people who grew up where the

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quiet part has been said out
loud, and so it’s harder for

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them to recognize what a dog
whistle is.

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We’ve never done a full on
episode about the Five Eyes on

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this podcast and.
Then there’s some people like

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too short, just going blow the
whistle, I mean, and let’s hear

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it.
So we’re going to suck in talk

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about it today.
And they’re up to new hijinks.

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Since 2021, they’ve shifted
focus into AI and things of the

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like.
So there’s updates, but let’s

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talk about that website and the
official description of the Five

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Eyes.
It is an alliance between the

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five Anglosphere nations,
Australia, Canada, New Zealand,

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UK and the US.
Not even letting.

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Spain in oh, I mean, Germany’s
not even in man.

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Yeah.
So it’s not even the all of the

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white nations.
It’s just.

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You ever go to the the paper
section on Office Depot and it’s

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like bright lights, you know,
like this is like the bright

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whites.
That term, Anglosphere, refers

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to a community of English
speaking countries that share a

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common cultural and historical
heritage.

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Yeah, man, we just love like
imperialism.

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We’re like, so good at it.
Yeah, I I was going to say

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genocide, but either one.
Yeah, that’s a good term.

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A lot of names on that list have
that in common.

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New Zealand calls up Australia,
That thing you did with the

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Aboriginals back in the 70s.
Yeah.

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We’re thinking about trying
something like that up here

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’cause you could, we could.
Great, great.

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We’ll see you.
We’ll see you next week.

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Everybody’s talking to their
great friends in the US and

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Canada.
Canada, I know everyone all just

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talks about how nice you are.
You’re not getting away with it.

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We know what y’all do to
Indigenous women up there.

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Oh man.
They at least read a little

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fucking poem or whatever they
do, you know, don’t they?

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I went to Canada once and I was
like, they were doing that and I

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was like, oh shit, someone’s
even to their they pretend to

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care up here.
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Not really though.
Canada’s rough.

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And the redneck part says you’re
just in Alabama but cold.

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Yeah, their police just kill
Indigenous people instead of

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black people.
That’s the main difference.

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There’s not as many black people
to kill, so they have to shift

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focus.
And you have a whole cottage

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industry of going into the woods
to kill things for fun that’s

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very available to you.
But you’re like, yeah, but it’s

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it doesn’t.
The Moose doesn’t have a family

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and a job.
Which is wild because it’s like,

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can’t y’all just do like weird
woods porn like like a lot of

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other places do?
It’s like, no, that’s where

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murders happen.
And then we just tell everyone

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that Bigfoot’s up there and so
if they see anything weird,

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they’re like, it’s Bigfoot and
definitely not weird murder I.

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Like the idea that if we did
finally encounter Bigfoot in

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this country, the first thing
we’d probably do is deport him

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back to Canada.
Yeah.

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Like, that would be first order
of business.

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He’s.
Taking our jobs?

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Yeah, he’s he’s taking our
loping and being fuzzy on

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photograph jobs.
There is a genre of guy of Rudy

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Giuliani genius that would hear
the news about Bigfoot and

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immediately think, oh fuck,
there’s going to be land rights

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issues and Portland, Washington,
a whole cottage industry of

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legal sub branches that end up
dealing with this.

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Yeah, that sounds like a
goldmine.

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I’m getting into Bigfoot law.
Bigfoot wants to come here.

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He needs to do it the right way
and that means you better be

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able to afford a plane ticket.
Otherwise, don’t come to this

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country.
They put better overstay his

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visa like the rest of us.
Yeah.

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And even then it’s just a soft
maybe, but.

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Yeah, I assume it would just be
a lot of people we can just do

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remember that thing we used to
do the what was that?

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The slavery?
That seemed to work out really

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well for a couple of us.
So I don’t know, man, How much

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can you carry?
And they’re even stronger than

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people.
Yeah, real big.

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Too real tall.
Hey Elon Musk, I got a Tesla bot

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for you.
He’s 8 feet tall and his shits

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as big as a Boston Terrier.
More durable than a fucking

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cyber truck.
He throws a heavy metal ball at

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the Bigfoot and he’s just like
ow what the dude, come on.

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Come on man, you broke my
glasses.

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You’re.
Going to be chained up like King

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Kong with like a little dignity
here.

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Here’s a quote from the Office
of the Director of National

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Intelligence website.
The Council members exchange

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views on subjects of mutual
interest and concern, compare

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best practices and review and
oversight methodology, explore

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areas where cooperation on
reviews and the sharing of

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results is permitted.
Where appropriate, They fucking

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cooperate.
I need to know more about this

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council, mostly.
Are there cloaks involved?

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Is there a secret knock?
I need to know these things

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because it sounds very
draconian.

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Yeah, how many candles must be
lit?

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Yeah, there’s an owl statue in
these meetings for sure.

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Where’s Moloch and all this?
Yeah, exactly.

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They set it on fire at the end
of each meeting.

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Very ceremonial.
We got to start incorporating

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shit like that into these
podcasts.

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Why not?
Government doesn’t.

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It’s got to be to some end.
What if our lives change

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immediately for the better?
Appealing to the subconscious

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impact of the Sumerian blood
deity through ritual and

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sacrifice.
I mean, this it’s, it would

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almost be weird if it had no
effect on the universe.

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I mean, come on, right?
We’ll throw it in for fun and

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maybe we get lucky and we
fucking sacrifice something to

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the right God.
Right I’m I don’t know man, I

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play D and DI.
Could be a convincing druid.

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Hell yeah.
Low intelligence, high wisdom

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build.
That’s kind of what you want in

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the conspiracy world a little.
Bit right?

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You just need that bullshit
detector.

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So let’s talk about the history
of the Five Eyes a little bit.

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PBS describes them as an
exclusive club made-up of,

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quote, the five countries that
don’t spy on each other.

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End Quote.
And that’s really fucking

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accurate.
If you’re one of these five

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countries, we won’t spy on you.
And I know that sounds like, Oh

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yeah, right, sure you don’t.
But it seems like what this is,

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at least right now, is a way for
countries to spy on their own

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citizens without actually doing
it themselves.

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Outsource it to New Zealand.
It’s like we didn’t do it.

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We just heard from New Zealand
that you guys were.

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Well, it’s exactly that.
When Edward Snowden released all

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those documents back in like
2013, one of the things that was

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revealed was that the US was
paying the UK to spy on our

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citizens and then send the
information to the NSA because

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we’re not allowed to spy on our
own citizens, but another

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country can.
Yeah, because it’s like, you

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know, when you go on TikTok and
those girls are like, hey, you

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know, give me 50 bucks and I’ll
see if your man’s been cheating

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on you.
And then like, they go into your

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man’s DMS, report back if he
takes him up on it.

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It’s like that.
It’s like we have an open phone

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policy.
I don’t see why it needs to be a

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girl offering this service.
I could do this with three or

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four stock images, couple of
copy and paste prompts.

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I know I agree but I think it’s
just they want just in case the

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guy presses for video time,
which as we know the UK has got

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a lot of because they have those
cameras everywhere.

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Everywhere we don’t, but the UK
does.

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We don’t need to.
We have, can’t we have our

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cameras?
Yeah, the UK is just more honest

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about who gets access to those
cameras.

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They’re like, no, the police
can’t look at your Ring doorbell

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footage.
No, yeah, of course they can.

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What’s interesting about the
Five Eyes?

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We just found out about them
officially in 2010 when the UK

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government bunch of documents
about it but it dates back to

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fucking World War 2.
This is.

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Crazy.
Like Area 51 was only officially

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confirmed when Barack Obama made
like a bad Jimmy Kimmel joke

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about like, well, it was
probably locked up in Area 51.

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This partnership, it dates back
to World War 2 and it started

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with a secret 7 page agreement
between the US and the UK.

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And at first it was just an
intelligence partnership meant

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to spy on Russia, which that’s
not surprising at all.

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It went from two eyes to three
eyes in 1948 when Canada joined

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for some reason.
Can’t we just fucking spy on

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them?
Why was it the fucking two eyes?

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Why don’t we just call it the
eyes?

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That’s how many eyes almost
everything but Tarantulas has.

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I think it was, it’s still
technically, I think called the

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UKUSA agreement.
They just started calling it the

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Five.
I, I don’t know actually who

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came up with the Five Eyes.
The name.

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It’s a bitching name though.
Yeah, that is actually a really,

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that feels like one of those
things where it’s like, oh, the

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government hired its best, you
know, the best genre writers to

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come up with some wacky shit, to
name things.

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But then half the shit is like,
and we’re going to call it

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Operation Thunder.
Fuck yeah.

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OK, so this was like the two
week window where as a

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freelancer you could get paid.
You know, it’s like when all of

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a sudden there were all of those
like apps where people were

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getting paid to make like short
form comedy.

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It’s like that except with
naming.

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Weird.
Government.

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This is the Quivi and so a
renaissance of government.

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Covert operation naming.
I mean they can’t all be MK

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Ultra and sound like a fucking
Thor villain.

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See, that’s fucking cool.
That’s a good name too.

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So much better than shock and
awe or any of like that.

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Australia and New Zealand joined
in 1956 and that’s when they

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were 5.
I don’t know if they started

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calling them the Five Eyes then,
but that’s when it became an

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alliance of five countries and
it’s basically just a global

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surveillance network.
They just spy on people.

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They pledged to share electronic
surveillance information with

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each other and to not spy on
each other.

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So I don’t know if people
remember that thing that

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happened under Obama where we
got caught spying on Germany and

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people were like, why would you
spy on one of your allies?

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And it’s because we literally
have four countries that we

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won’t spy on anyone else his
fucking fair game, including

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fucking Israel, Germany, France,
South Africa, any of the

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countries that you normally
think of as our tightest allies.

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We’re like no promises, we still
might spy on your shit.

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What do we have on New Zealand?
What kind of Jeffrey Epstein

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shit makes us go, oh, they’ll be
cool, don’t.

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I’m not worried about New
Zealand.

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Yeah, no idea what do.
New Zealand to me feels like the

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Canada of Australia in.
Once you have Australia, do you

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need New Zealand to participate?
Yeah, but then if we don’t have

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New Zealand, then we’re the four
eyes, and that doesn’t sound

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cool.
There was like a bunch of dorks.

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We’re Milhouse, Yeah.
Fucking nerds.

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Yeah, that wouldn’t be good.
No, you got to round it out.

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Yeah, I just sort of think of
New Zealand as like being an

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even split between like a
dwindling population of white

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ancestral sheep fuckers.
Irish guy here in those shade.

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And I’ve been like a bunch of
Gabe Newell new money tech

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billionaires like building their
like apocalypse built bunkers in

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the rolling hills.
I have no preconceived notions

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of New Zealand that extend
beyond Flight of the Conchords.

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I assume that’s everyone in New
Zealand, so it seems like a cool

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place to me.
Yeah, I got a real Lord of the

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Rings focused view.
Everywhere is just hobbiting to

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me, man.
I don’t know.

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Yeah, I hope it’s like a mash
up.

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I hope it’s just really funny
hobbits.

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Like really skilled musical
comedy hobbits.

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Look at all these droll little
fellas.

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That would be great.
Yeah, I’m in in the comments, if

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we’re right, New Zealand.
They made us a flagon of

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strawberry cordial.
Just sitting there smoking pipe

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weed sounds dope.
I think that’s actually a Red

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Wall reference, not a Lord of
the Rings reference.

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But I reveal myself God.
Damn it, Connor, you’re

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embarrassing us.
I know I’m going to.

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I got the Salmarillion upstairs
too.

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I should be ashamed of myself.
I just mentioned Germany and how

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we were spying on them under
Obama and probably under Trump,

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Biden, Clinton, Bush, every
other president and France also.

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They found your toilet cameras.
They both have wanted to be in

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the Five Eyes for a long, long
time.

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I can’t see the Five Eyes.
They don’t speak American.

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That’s why we only want people
who speak American.

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It’s so unfair.
Yeah, I think that’s a big part

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of it.
There’s going to be a language

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barrier.
And also we don’t need them

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because the point of this is to
have eyes in pretty much every

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part of the world.
Yeah, it’s the Five Eyes, not

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the sex, Algin.
And.

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One German guy is going out.
The UK can cover Europe,

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Australia and New Zealand.
They’re close enough to any

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Asian nation.
We’d need to spy on that.

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We break it up like fucking
sports divisions.

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Kinda, yeah.
New Zealand’s the AFC East of

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reading your emails.
Correct.

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OK, yeah, I think we’re the
commissioner of this fucking

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league.
I think we kind of run it, but

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yeah, that’s actually a good way
to put it.

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I think we just direct all these
different intelligence agencies

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around the world when we want
them to spy on some shit for us.

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So Germany is like Seattle, just
like begging to get back in the

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game.
Yeah, shouldn’t have sent your

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franchise to Oklahoma City,
idiot.

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I’m from Seattle.
I shouldn’t have brought it up.

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I’m very, I’m still, I’m still
very upset.

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Only sonics you’re getting got
the two gay guys in the

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commercials eating slushy drinks
and cheese tots and what have

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you.
So an intelligence expert

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speaking to PBS in 2013 said the
arrangement the Five Eyes have

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quote makes it quicker to
connect the dots.

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End Quote.
I think 5 eyes taste better than

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Sonic because they do these
Cajun fries.

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They don’t.
They don’t season their meat

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though is the problem.
Boy, they got the real ice cream

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and the milkshakes and the
fucking free peanuts.

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I mean, call me an elephant.
I love free peanuts.

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That same expert added You can’t
underestimate the importance of

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the common language, legal
system and culture, and then

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added above all, there is total
trust.

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I doubt that.
The culture, What do they mean?

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Blue jeans?
What culture?

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What do they?
They could have just written the

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absence of melanin, yeah.
You think they just mean

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capitalism?
Yeah.

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Yeah, I mean, that is the
dominant culture of the Earth.

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I’m sure that’s all they really
mean.

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Yeah, like the fucking people
are gonna be like who are the

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most important people in human
history after they collapse and

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be like, shit.
I’m pretty sure based on from

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what we could tell, it was Goku
and Mickey Mouse were kind of

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like the Kennedy and Khrushchev
of the whole thing.

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Not even Superman anymore.
Damn.

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Step your game up, Clark Kent.
Yeah, sucks.

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He’s always a fucking mediocre
character.

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I’m a fucking lazy comedy
writer, and I know lazy writing

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when I see it.
And those, those two Jews were

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phoning it in that day.
And he’s stronger than

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everything.
And I don’t know, fuck it.

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Ice breath.
When you get the ice breath,

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it’s like, eat shit, All right?
What are you?

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What are we talking about
anymore?

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My eyes are hot.
My breath is cold.

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So the other reason we all agree
not to spy on each other?

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This is a quote from a retired
official familiar with the Five

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Eyes project.
There is very little we need to

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know about these countries and
their leadership’s views that

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the leaders wouldn’t tell us
themselves.

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And that seems like also kind of
the point that if you get one of

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these world leaders in a room
alone, they know they can talk

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to you without being recorded,
which I don’t know how that

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prevents like an outside country
from recording both of you, but

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sure.
Or from the Prime Minister of

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New Zealand about gossiping
about the Prime Minister of

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Canada.
Yeah.

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That’s where I have a hot tea
gets spilled.

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Loose lip sink ships.
He still does the blackface sink

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in private.
I don’t know why there’s a

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German Prime Minister of New
Zealand.

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And again, I’m asking like, what
is this like presumption of

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trust?
Is this like some like, do I

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need to think about this in more
brass fucking the real

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Polythique terms?
Is it just a fact of the matter

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that these five countries share
so many common interests it

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would be silly or antithetical
to the engine of capitalism to

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compete or deceive one another?
I don’t know, It’s just fucking

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strange.
It’s bro code.

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Who gets along with anybody?
Yeah, I think it’s just mutually

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beneficial.
Yeah.

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Two of these countries spun off
from one of the other countries.

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Like with how we forgot about
that. 3.

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Oh yeah, Mormon.
I think all of them they’re.

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All England spinoffs.
We’re all their kids.

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It’s like succession, just we’re
all trying to do better than

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Daddy.
This is the Joey of England.

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00:20:18,680 –> 00:20:20,960
Yeah, yeah.
I actually like Joey the.

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Way they describe it, it seems
like it’s just easier if say,

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there’s someone in Australia
that we need to to track or

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monitor or surveil.
We just dial up Australia and

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have their people do it.
And same thing for Australia.

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If they’re tracking an
Australian dissident, I don’t

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know if those exist except for
the band Midnight Oil and shit.

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But other than that, if they
have to track someone in the US,

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they have us do it.
It’s easy.

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We should have something like
that in place.

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It’s like if the Mean Boys took
our 5000 Die Hard podcast fans

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00:20:54,080 –> 00:20:58,120
and we found the band with 5000
Die Hard noise rock fans.

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And we just feel like let’s just
share venues.

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00:21:00,560 –> 00:21:02,960
We’re drawing about the same
crowds, you know, we could use

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00:21:02,960 –> 00:21:05,760
the contacts like.
I think that’s just comedy in

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the mid 2000s.
That’s just the way that we were

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00:21:08,760 –> 00:21:11,360
doing it back then.
Yeah, I mean, what is it now?

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I just I.
Don’t know man, I do all my shit

408
00:21:13,240 –> 00:21:14,880
on the Internet now.
Fucking Zoom.

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00:21:15,080 –> 00:21:16,640
Yeah, I was going to say Zoom
link.

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00:21:16,840 –> 00:21:20,360
Yeah, this podcast.
There’s no one fucking driving

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00:21:20,360 –> 00:21:22,840
to places that smell like urine
anymore for anyone.

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00:21:23,080 –> 00:21:25,000
We used to be a proper country,
sorry.

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I’m not fucking driving anywhere
for anyone.

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00:21:27,160 –> 00:21:30,040
It’s for God damn sure.
Adam loves the Great Reset.

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00:21:30,080 –> 00:21:34,640
Every unpopped since 2020 has
been digital.

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Yeah, sorry you both didn’t have
to drive an hour and a half to

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do this today.
I know that would have been way

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cooler.
So just because we don’t promise

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to not spy on a country doesn’t
mean they don’t want to work

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with us.
We are the greatest God bless

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nation on earth, after all.
So to that end, there are

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extended versions of the Five
Eyes partnership.

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These are the Five Eyes kill a
bees.

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Yes, yes.
The associates.

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The Wu Tang affiliates the Nine
Eyes, that agreement adds

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Denmark, France’s whiny ass, the
Netherlands and Norway.

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And Redman wait.
And Buddha Monk, Young dirty

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bastard, you want me to keep
going?

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I kind of do, kind of do.
All right, well, as soon as this

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Wikipedia page loads.
Again, those countries are not

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safe from being spied on by the
Five Eyes.

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The grave diggers.
Remember them?

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But they do get some sort of
unknown benefits for not being

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mad about it.
I guess no one really knows what

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the Nine Eyes countries get for
their relationship with us.

436
00:22:48,880 –> 00:22:53,480
I know like Norway, that gives
us a Nine Eyes country on the

437
00:22:53,480 –> 00:22:57,240
border with Russia, so I’m sure
that’s why they’re beneficial to

438
00:22:57,240 –> 00:23:00,480
us.
But there’s also the 14 Eyes.

439
00:23:00,480 –> 00:23:02,720
Yeah, and Russia was like, hey,
Cuba, we fucking.

440
00:23:02,720 –> 00:23:05,120
We just love weird sandwiches
and old cars.

441
00:23:05,120 –> 00:23:09,760
We want to be friends, right?
There’s also the 14 Eyes, which

442
00:23:09,760 –> 00:23:15,760
adds Belgium, Germany, Italy,
Spain and Sweden to the party.

443
00:23:15,920 –> 00:23:20,080
It’s also the 20 eyes, which
adds all four of the original

444
00:23:20,080 –> 00:23:22,360
misfits.
Anybody walk among us?

445
00:23:22,360 –> 00:23:26,040
No, okay.
No, it just, it’s starting to

446
00:23:26,040 –> 00:23:29,520
sound a lot like the Greek
organizations where you have the

447
00:23:29,520 –> 00:23:32,360
ones that like work together and
then, hey, if you’re cool with

448
00:23:32,360 –> 00:23:35,360
us, then we’ll have sorority and
fraternity parties and we all

449
00:23:35,360 –> 00:23:38,320
get to hang out and have a big
kegger and a big rager, you

450
00:23:38,320 –> 00:23:40,600
know, And that’s like the
benefit is that you get to come

451
00:23:40,600 –> 00:23:43,360
and touch the orb or whatever.
Went over to her house last

452
00:23:43,360 –> 00:23:46,160
night, she let me touch the orb.
There it is.

453
00:23:47,200 –> 00:23:51,240
I also wonder if part of it is,
Well, if you let us spy on your

454
00:23:51,240 –> 00:23:55,600
citizens, we’ll let you know if
they’re up to anything like I, I

455
00:23:55,600 –> 00:23:59,840
bet we just want to be able to
spy on everyone everywhere.

456
00:24:00,000 –> 00:24:04,600
And so I wonder if the different
levels are the degree to which

457
00:24:04,800 –> 00:24:08,320
they let us spy on them.
I mean, I kind of think at a

458
00:24:08,320 –> 00:24:11,520
certain point it’s like we’re
going to do it anyway.

459
00:24:11,720 –> 00:24:15,640
So either you can be really cool
about it or not.

460
00:24:15,840 –> 00:24:19,280
You know, we’re almost like, you
know, the guys coming in to a

461
00:24:19,280 –> 00:24:22,440
new restaurant or convenience
store, like holding the baseball

462
00:24:22,440 –> 00:24:24,680
bat.
Like, man, it’d be really messed

463
00:24:24,680 –> 00:24:28,320
up if somebody fucked your cute
little country up here, but you

464
00:24:28,320 –> 00:24:31,880
know, if you let us look over
everything for you, then we’ll

465
00:24:31,880 –> 00:24:35,120
keep you safe.
Hit, hit, hit, hit on the hand.

466
00:24:38,400 –> 00:24:40,560
I guess in the rest of the world
they say like when America

467
00:24:40,560 –> 00:24:43,480
visits we get a scolding, when
China visits, we get a hospital

468
00:24:43,880 –> 00:24:46,720
with their whole like Belton Rd.
initiative of just giving

469
00:24:46,720 –> 00:24:49,200
infrastructure to people with
all their slavery money or

470
00:24:49,200 –> 00:24:51,800
whatever the fuck.
And we’re still on the fucking.

471
00:24:51,800 –> 00:24:55,440
We’re still on mean dad.
We’re still on mean 50s coach

472
00:24:55,440 –> 00:24:58,480
dad mode.
Fucking crew cut, take a salt

473
00:24:58,480 –> 00:25:02,560
tablet, stop being gay.
Do some push ups on them.

474
00:25:02,760 –> 00:25:05,720
Oh, but we got New Zealand, so
we’re fine.

475
00:25:05,920 –> 00:25:08,280
Any threats coming in from the
North Pole?

476
00:25:09,320 –> 00:25:11,280
I don’t know if that’s
completely accurate when it

477
00:25:11,280 –> 00:25:14,440
comes to China’s dealings around
the world.

478
00:25:14,640 –> 00:25:17,720
Not the full picture.
They’re going out and issuing

479
00:25:17,920 –> 00:25:20,920
loans to countries where they
know those countries aren’t

480
00:25:20,920 –> 00:25:22,560
going to be able to pay those
loans back.

481
00:25:22,720 –> 00:25:25,480
Some Tony Soprano Happy Wanderer
China loans.

482
00:25:25,720 –> 00:25:28,560
Yeah, and then they call those
loans in and they’re like, all

483
00:25:28,560 –> 00:25:31,280
right, well, just give us all
your fucking lithium then so we

484
00:25:31,280 –> 00:25:34,200
can make smart.
Yeah, all these countries are

485
00:25:34,200 –> 00:25:37,120
just the mobs, yeah.
You get mineral rights.

486
00:25:37,120 –> 00:25:40,240
You’re so golden.
Well, that is what China in

487
00:25:40,280 –> 00:25:43,640
large part is pushing for around
the world is mineral rights.

488
00:25:43,640 –> 00:25:45,640
Someone’s got to have them.
Someone’s got to make all these

489
00:25:45,640 –> 00:25:49,440
fucking gadgets and devices that
we fucking rely on.

490
00:25:49,800 –> 00:25:51,600
And China wants to be the
country that does it.

491
00:25:51,760 –> 00:25:53,640
And you know what?
They make a good product.

492
00:25:53,760 –> 00:25:56,800
Why the fuck not?
A Huawei phone is my favorite

493
00:25:56,800 –> 00:25:59,640
phone I’ve ever had.
It was like having a top of the

494
00:25:59,640 –> 00:26:03,320
line iPhone that I paid $249
for.

495
00:26:03,480 –> 00:26:06,320
Are you serious?
Yeah, that’s what the 2021

496
00:26:06,320 –> 00:26:11,720
episode was in large part about,
was the demonization of Huawei.

497
00:26:11,880 –> 00:26:15,440
At that point in history, they
were the number 2 smartphone

498
00:26:15,600 –> 00:26:21,040
company in the world.
It was, I think Samsung was #1.

499
00:26:21,440 –> 00:26:24,960
And that’s this company is owned
by Borat Lili.

500
00:26:25,640 –> 00:26:30,160
Yeah, well, it’s it’s a Chinese
company, and so we accuse them

501
00:26:30,160 –> 00:26:33,360
of using their devices to spy on
citizens.

502
00:26:33,560 –> 00:26:37,440
And I think it’s the same thing
as TikTok, where it’s not that

503
00:26:37,440 –> 00:26:40,120
we care about spying, we just
want to be the ones to do it.

504
00:26:40,400 –> 00:26:41,680
Right.
And if anybody else does it,

505
00:26:41,680 –> 00:26:44,080
then now we have competition,
so.

506
00:26:44,320 –> 00:26:47,040
Yeah, we’ve almost just been
doing the climax of The Dark

507
00:26:47,040 –> 00:26:51,200
Knight for the last 15 years.
Who controls the network of

508
00:26:51,200 –> 00:26:53,600
Spire?
You know the of information of

509
00:26:53,600 –> 00:26:56,240
the zeros and ones of every cell
phone on earth, you know.

510
00:26:56,480 –> 00:27:00,600
Yeah, it kind of seems like it.
So there’s also third party

511
00:27:00,600 –> 00:27:03,160
contributors.
Those are countries that

512
00:27:03,160 –> 00:27:06,120
sometimes share intelligence
with the Five Eyes, but they get

513
00:27:06,120 –> 00:27:10,160
even fewer benefits for it.
Somehow Israel is on that list.

514
00:27:10,400 –> 00:27:12,480
That’s probably that’s
diversionary.

515
00:27:12,920 –> 00:27:15,040
That’s like, hey, but we really
know.

516
00:27:15,200 –> 00:27:17,440
Well, no, I think it’s just
because we’re talking

517
00:27:17,440 –> 00:27:20,920
surveillance and Israel doesn’t
need our fucking help spying on

518
00:27:21,160 –> 00:27:22,880
anybody.
I thought it was more like when

519
00:27:22,880 –> 00:27:26,000
you keep your side piece in your
phone as like, you know,

520
00:27:26,040 –> 00:27:27,200
carpeting guy.
Or whatever.

521
00:27:27,240 –> 00:27:28,920
Yeah, that.
Could be.

522
00:27:29,320 –> 00:27:31,560
So bad I am a cheating.
I was like, yo what’s, what’s a

523
00:27:31,560 –> 00:27:33,240
good person I would text.
A guy.

524
00:27:36,360 –> 00:27:39,760
Yeah, a carpet guy too.
Not like that implies you have

525
00:27:40,040 –> 00:27:43,880
the need for carpet regularly.
I don’t go to the big chains.

526
00:27:45,560 –> 00:27:47,720
Got a small batch.
It’s about personal

527
00:27:47,720 –> 00:27:49,360
relationships, the carpet
business.

528
00:27:49,720 –> 00:27:52,040
Yeah, small batch artisan
carpets.

529
00:27:52,680 –> 00:27:55,760
So yeah, the simplest definition
of the 5I’s is that it’s a

530
00:27:55,760 –> 00:28:00,240
global surveillance alliance.
We learned from the Snowden

531
00:28:00,240 –> 00:28:03,800
documents that they have a few
different programs at their

532
00:28:03,800 –> 00:28:07,040
disposal.
One is called ECHELON, which is.

533
00:28:07,040 –> 00:28:08,960
Sick name.
Yeah, it’s a great name.

534
00:28:09,440 –> 00:28:12,640
It uses communication satellites
to intercept private

535
00:28:12,720 –> 00:28:17,120
communications, and then those
are stored and analyzed if need

536
00:28:17,120 –> 00:28:19,480
be.
There’s also the PRISM program,

537
00:28:19,480 –> 00:28:22,560
which does the same thing, but
it collects communications from

538
00:28:22,720 –> 00:28:26,760
social media and tech companies.
The Five Eyes were also behind

539
00:28:27,160 –> 00:28:30,000
the push to pass the Patriot
Act, so that’s great.

540
00:28:30,160 –> 00:28:33,480
Australia and the UK passed
similar laws to the Patriot Act

541
00:28:33,480 –> 00:28:38,360
in 2015 and 2016.
No rush, just wait for us to win

542
00:28:38,360 –> 00:28:41,960
the War on Terror and then start
passing your Patriot Acts.

543
00:28:42,080 –> 00:28:46,440
Also they are adamantly opposed
to encryption on messaging

544
00:28:46,480 –> 00:28:49,240
platforms, which should tell you
all you need to know about

545
00:28:49,240 –> 00:28:53,800
encryption on messaging
platforms and how important it

546
00:28:53,800 –> 00:28:55,840
is.
They released a statement in

547
00:28:55,840 –> 00:28:59,440
2018 saying they were going to
try and force tech companies to

548
00:28:59,480 –> 00:29:03,840
provide access to bypass
encryption and Australia passed

549
00:29:03,840 –> 00:29:07,200
a law that makes that a thing in
2018.

550
00:29:07,560 –> 00:29:09,960
Hasn’t happened here yet, but.
You got to wonder though, if

551
00:29:09,960 –> 00:29:12,080
Australia’s got this thing where
Apple has to build in a

552
00:29:12,080 –> 00:29:14,040
backdoor.
Well, now somebody’s built the

553
00:29:14,040 –> 00:29:16,400
backdoor for Apple.
I wonder if we could use it.

554
00:29:16,600 –> 00:29:20,160
Yeah, how hard could it be to
access that once it exists?

555
00:29:20,160 –> 00:29:22,320
Because they’re our best friend.
They’re our very best friend.

556
00:29:22,520 –> 00:29:25,960
Yeah, if just some guy on
YouTube can get like the poorly

557
00:29:25,960 –> 00:29:29,000
coded in the 1st place and
poorly made in design Kenny

558
00:29:29,000 –> 00:29:33,800
versus Spenny fan game from 2003
running off of like an Internet

559
00:29:33,800 –> 00:29:36,240
Archive RIP that was incomplete,
you know what I mean?

560
00:29:36,240 –> 00:29:39,960
Like the United States
government can go on a GitHub

561
00:29:39,960 –> 00:29:43,120
page and grab that fucking
decrypto.

562
00:29:43,320 –> 00:29:49,720
Yeah, and I’ve also read stories
that claim the FBI can pretty

563
00:29:49,720 –> 00:29:52,200
much get into any phone no
matter what.

564
00:29:52,360 –> 00:29:54,760
There’s some, but also I’ve
heard they can’t get into Eric

565
00:29:54,760 –> 00:29:57,240
Adams phone, which that’s funny
to me.

566
00:29:57,360 –> 00:30:00,800
Like of all the people who just
has the best phone security,

567
00:30:01,120 –> 00:30:04,200
it’s that guy.
Which is maybe because maybe he

568
00:30:04,200 –> 00:30:07,800
was so sloppy because he thought
that his phone was so good, that

569
00:30:07,800 –> 00:30:10,360
he didn’t like it was OK, that
he was making a bunch of just

570
00:30:10,360 –> 00:30:13,640
like baby’s first crime
mistakes, you know?

571
00:30:13,840 –> 00:30:16,360
Yeah, could be.
I think they can’t get into it

572
00:30:16,360 –> 00:30:19,360
’cause there’s so many Dick pics
they they can’t even load the

573
00:30:19,400 –> 00:30:22,560
interface to delete them to
clear space to make the phone

574
00:30:22,560 –> 00:30:24,160
more usable.
You ever have that?

575
00:30:24,480 –> 00:30:25,920
Yes.
No, it’s pictures of your Dick.

576
00:30:26,480 –> 00:30:29,600
Well, pictures of your Dick.
Yeah, specifically, yeah, I got

577
00:30:29,600 –> 00:30:31,240
all those pictures of Connor’s
Dick in my.

578
00:30:32,520 –> 00:30:35,320
Every night he asks for a wake
up call and every morning I get

579
00:30:35,320 –> 00:30:38,640
this feel.
It’s how you show you care, man,

580
00:30:38,840 –> 00:30:43,520
Guy, time.
So one of the push backs you

581
00:30:43,520 –> 00:30:47,720
always get when it comes to the
Five Eyes and just government

582
00:30:47,720 –> 00:30:51,360
surveillance in general is Oh
well, if you aren’t breaking the

583
00:30:51,360 –> 00:30:54,280
law, you don’t have anything to
worry about.

584
00:30:54,440 –> 00:30:58,720
And that is so incorrect.
You obviously have something to

585
00:30:58,720 –> 00:31:02,760
worry about if there are
entities out there collecting

586
00:31:02,920 –> 00:31:06,680
just all of your personal
information and communications

587
00:31:07,080 –> 00:31:11,440
and storing them somewhere.
Because even if the regime

588
00:31:11,440 –> 00:31:15,680
that’s in charge now isn’t using
it for nefarious shit, there

589
00:31:15,680 –> 00:31:19,440
could very well be a regime that
comes along at some point and

590
00:31:19,440 –> 00:31:22,200
decides to use that for
nefarious shit.

591
00:31:22,360 –> 00:31:27,280
Also, it’s just, it’s that same
thing of like anybody can sue

592
00:31:27,280 –> 00:31:29,000
for anything.
It doesn’t mean that the

593
00:31:29,000 –> 00:31:30,640
lawsuit’s going to be
successful.

594
00:31:30,880 –> 00:31:34,560
It doesn’t mean you know that
there is a guilty party.

595
00:31:34,760 –> 00:31:39,680
It just means that anyone can
sue for anything and you might

596
00:31:39,680 –> 00:31:43,760
be innocent, but it’s still a
pain in the ass for two years.

597
00:31:44,000 –> 00:31:47,120
And so imagine if that pain in
the ass is coming from the

598
00:31:47,120 –> 00:31:50,440
government and you having to
fight the government to prove

599
00:31:50,680 –> 00:31:53,240
that you’re innocent to the
government.

600
00:31:53,480 –> 00:31:56,640
And in the meantime, all of your
personal information is out

601
00:31:56,640 –> 00:31:59,800
there in discovery documents
where just anybody could read it

602
00:31:59,800 –> 00:32:03,280
or, you know, when the Justice
Department releases anything or

603
00:32:03,440 –> 00:32:05,960
you know, like that, that can
happen.

604
00:32:05,960 –> 00:32:09,440
So and I used to be a paralegal,
so these are things I think

605
00:32:09,440 –> 00:32:12,720
about.
So even if you are innocent,

606
00:32:13,080 –> 00:32:16,120
that doesn’t mean your life
can’t still be completely

607
00:32:16,120 –> 00:32:19,640
destroyed.
Then ways that are legal and OK

608
00:32:19,640 –> 00:32:22,000
by the way that the legal system
works.

609
00:32:22,240 –> 00:32:24,400
They have so much more access
and so much more leverage.

610
00:32:24,400 –> 00:32:26,200
You’re right.
It is like trying to convince

611
00:32:26,240 –> 00:32:28,080
Stanto that you’re a good
person.

612
00:32:28,440 –> 00:32:35,320
He’s like, well, I do know about
the Laffy Taffy’s in second you.

613
00:32:35,400 –> 00:32:39,520
You remember the Laffy Taffy’s?
Yeah, one of the articles we’ll

614
00:32:39,520 –> 00:32:44,360
link to about this points to
China’s social credit system as

615
00:32:44,360 –> 00:32:48,280
an example of how all this data
collection could go wrong really

616
00:32:48,280 –> 00:32:51,400
quick.
And I feel like we’re probably

617
00:32:51,400 –> 00:32:55,280
not as far away from something
like the social credit system

618
00:32:55,400 –> 00:32:58,600
here in the United States than
people would like to think.

619
00:32:58,760 –> 00:33:01,600
I feel like the infrastructure
has been like getting laid down.

620
00:33:01,840 –> 00:33:05,320
I also sidebar do wonder how
many, like how many acres of the

621
00:33:05,320 –> 00:33:09,000
rainforest have been burned to
just turn my fucking pornhub

622
00:33:09,000 –> 00:33:12,400
search history into a string of
zeros and ones for no reason.

623
00:33:12,560 –> 00:33:17,480
You know, yeah.
And think about Project 2025, if

624
00:33:17,480 –> 00:33:21,280
you’ve looked into that at all,
it is essentially demands

625
00:33:21,280 –> 00:33:25,040
loyalty to the president.
That’s one of the foundational

626
00:33:25,040 –> 00:33:29,520
things about Project 2025.
And that includes government

627
00:33:29,520 –> 00:33:32,200
workers.
Like they want kind of a purity

628
00:33:32,200 –> 00:33:34,800
test, I guess, for civil
servants.

629
00:33:34,800 –> 00:33:37,960
And if you’re not loyal to the
Trump administration, you’re

630
00:33:37,960 –> 00:33:41,160
fired, and they’re going to
replace you with someone who is.

631
00:33:41,320 –> 00:33:45,680
What happens when they expand
that to something like a social

632
00:33:45,680 –> 00:33:49,880
credit system where, well, Trump
is our president?

633
00:33:49,920 –> 00:33:54,280
And you have said all this shit
about Trump on social media over

634
00:33:54,280 –> 00:33:57,120
the years, Now you can’t rent an
apartment.

635
00:33:57,360 –> 00:34:00,440
Sorry.
Like it would take maybe a month

636
00:34:00,640 –> 00:34:04,440
for a Trump administration to
implement something like that

637
00:34:04,720 –> 00:34:08,080
because they have all this
goddamn data already, and I

638
00:34:08,080 –> 00:34:09,480
would.
Be surprised if there’s some

639
00:34:09,480 –> 00:34:13,159
fucking thing you can queue up
in a database somewhere where

640
00:34:13,159 –> 00:34:18,280
it’s like, Oh yes, Mr. Mcspadden
has torrented over 98 feature

641
00:34:18,280 –> 00:34:24,880
films and 23 television shows.
He’s stolen about $19,000 worth

642
00:34:24,880 –> 00:34:27,520
of Crystal Light packets from
his local target.

643
00:34:28,400 –> 00:34:29,880
You know what I mean?
And then he’s just, and it’s

644
00:34:29,880 –> 00:34:35,080
like that, that con man, you’re
at a 63% out of 100, you know

645
00:34:35,080 –> 00:34:37,800
that’s going to stop you from,
you can’t ride the train

646
00:34:37,800 –> 00:34:39,639
anymore, No Amtrak or something,
you know what I mean?

647
00:34:39,639 –> 00:34:42,280
It’ll be some weird shit like.
Yeah, Spectrum already has all

648
00:34:42,280 –> 00:34:44,520
of that information.
And even, you know, there’s that

649
00:34:44,520 –> 00:34:48,280
Google lawsuit where if you used
private browsing, it’s not as

650
00:34:48,280 –> 00:34:50,080
private as they said that it
was.

651
00:34:50,280 –> 00:34:53,679
And so, yeah, you know, one of
these days you’re trying to get

652
00:34:53,679 –> 00:34:57,440
on Amtrak or trying to get on a
flight, but it turns out you

653
00:34:57,440 –> 00:35:01,720
can’t because you have 250 gigs
of big titty Milfs and now no

654
00:35:01,720 –> 00:35:03,840
more flying for you.
You can’t even get on Spirit.

655
00:35:04,000 –> 00:35:07,800
As much as a of a crazy
conspiracy tech guys, I’ve been

656
00:35:07,800 –> 00:35:11,360
my entire life, never used the
VPN, never even fucking hit

657
00:35:11,360 –> 00:35:16,560
control shift and come kill me
leak all of it.

658
00:35:16,600 –> 00:35:19,080
I am who I am.
He’ll take his big titty milfs

659
00:35:19,680 –> 00:35:23,400
from his cold dead hands.
So I wish it was big titty milfs

660
00:35:23,440 –> 00:35:26,600
Daniel.
Aren’t the big titty milfs worth

661
00:35:26,600 –> 00:35:29,080
the sacrifice also?
That’s my America.

662
00:35:29,240 –> 00:35:31,120
Yeah, you can take boats to get
places.

663
00:35:31,120 –> 00:35:33,920
What do you need to fly for?
You, one of the Wright brothers.

664
00:35:34,240 –> 00:35:36,400
You can just float there you big
titty MILF.

665
00:35:37,560 –> 00:35:40,840
Walk down the river with those
jumbo Yum yums.

666
00:35:41,760 –> 00:35:44,680
But yeah, I absolutely could see
something like that being a

667
00:35:44,680 –> 00:35:47,240
thing.
Especially there was that huge

668
00:35:47,280 –> 00:35:51,800
hack recently where they just
announced, hey, everyone knows

669
00:35:51,800 –> 00:35:54,800
your Social Security number.
Now they it’s out there on the

670
00:35:54,800 –> 00:35:57,240
dark web.
As that happens more and more, I

671
00:35:57,240 –> 00:36:01,320
think people are just going to
not trust our current credit

672
00:36:01,320 –> 00:36:04,880
system.
You have been asking so many

673
00:36:04,880 –> 00:36:09,640
questions about Mr. Presley, Mr.
Brown.

674
00:36:11,360 –> 00:36:13,400
Yeah.
I mean, it could very easily be

675
00:36:13,400 –> 00:36:15,520
that.
And think about sites like Next

676
00:36:15,520 –> 00:36:19,400
Door that are just training.
Oh my God.

677
00:36:19,440 –> 00:36:22,160
Populations to spy on each
other.

678
00:36:22,320 –> 00:36:25,000
Every fucking aspect of the
surveillance state that’s

679
00:36:25,000 –> 00:36:26,880
entered our lives, it’s been so
funny.

680
00:36:26,880 –> 00:36:31,120
We have welcomed it in and paid
$1000 and stood in line for it,

681
00:36:31,640 –> 00:36:34,120
you know, like they just make
all this shit seem cool, like,

682
00:36:34,160 –> 00:36:37,000
oh, you’re helping your
neighborhood by being a fucking

683
00:36:37,000 –> 00:36:39,440
snitch, you know?
Alert, alert.

684
00:36:39,440 –> 00:36:41,000
Everybody make sure to pay
attention.

685
00:36:41,000 –> 00:36:44,040
I saw a car, they were going and
they seemed to drive by an

686
00:36:44,040 –> 00:36:46,720
address and then look at the
address and then shake their

687
00:36:46,720 –> 00:36:49,000
heads and then say I don’t think
this is the right address and

688
00:36:49,000 –> 00:36:50,800
then keep moving.
And they were wearing a hoodie.

689
00:36:50,960 –> 00:36:53,480
Do I call the police?
Everyone pay attention.

690
00:36:53,480 –> 00:36:55,880
It’s like, what are we doing?
Yeah, the first comments going

691
00:36:55,880 –> 00:36:57,280
to be, were they black?
Yeah.

692
00:36:57,600 –> 00:36:59,680
I was about to say 5 minute
period.

693
00:36:59,680 –> 00:37:00,680
No one responds.
Bread.

694
00:37:00,680 –> 00:37:05,640
This is black.
Yeah, that’s mostly what Next

695
00:37:05,640 –> 00:37:08,240
Door is for.
It’s for reporting when black

696
00:37:08,240 –> 00:37:10,360
people show up in your
neighborhood.

697
00:37:10,600 –> 00:37:12,360
It’s the act.
The full name of the app is

698
00:37:12,360 –> 00:37:14,240
actually called next door
parentheses.

699
00:37:14,240 –> 00:37:19,480
I don’t want them living.
So I don’t know.

700
00:37:19,560 –> 00:37:24,280
I think that is what you should
tell a person when they say, oh,

701
00:37:24,280 –> 00:37:26,000
if you’re not breaking the law,
who cares about all that

702
00:37:26,000 –> 00:37:27,640
surveillance?
You got to think about the

703
00:37:27,640 –> 00:37:29,400
future.
Well, yeah, that’s what I was

704
00:37:29,400 –> 00:37:30,680
thinking about the social credit
score.

705
00:37:30,680 –> 00:37:33,200
If it’s retroactive, I’m boned.
I was.

706
00:37:33,240 –> 00:37:35,240
I was boned by Episode 8 of Mean
Boys.

707
00:37:35,720 –> 00:37:38,440
But if it’s going forward, I
mean, I know how to pimp the

708
00:37:38,440 –> 00:37:40,320
system.
I can fucking pretend.

709
00:37:40,320 –> 00:37:42,800
I love the Chinese governments.
That’s not hard.

710
00:37:43,080 –> 00:37:45,680
They give us so much.
Guys, come on.

711
00:37:46,280 –> 00:37:48,960
Yeah, I wonder what their
impression of me is from that

712
00:37:48,960 –> 00:37:53,200
time I owned a Huawei phone.
I hope they like me in case they

713
00:37:53,200 –> 00:37:55,760
ever take over the world.
Some guy with big headphones

714
00:37:55,760 –> 00:37:58,520
who’s for some reason in a
Chinese van that says Larry’s

715
00:37:58,520 –> 00:38:03,640
Flowers.
More Mariah Carey than I was

716
00:38:03,640 –> 00:38:07,840
expecting.
Every time it clicks on your

717
00:38:07,840 –> 00:38:10,080
thing, she just you just hear
her Christmas time saying like

718
00:38:10,080 –> 00:38:13,880
it’s time over and over again.
Kylie loves Christmas.

719
00:38:14,280 –> 00:38:17,600
In my official file, huh?
Yeah, yeah.

720
00:38:17,600 –> 00:38:21,360
The reason I bought that Huawei
phone is as soon as I heard that

721
00:38:21,360 –> 00:38:24,080
the government was concerned
China could use it to spy on me,

722
00:38:24,280 –> 00:38:27,080
my thought was oh, so that means
you can’t spy on me with.

723
00:38:28,120 –> 00:38:30,440
It.
Yeah, between the two, I’m going

724
00:38:30,440 –> 00:38:33,280
to pick China spying on me over
the US government.

725
00:38:33,280 –> 00:38:35,800
I have more gripe with the US
government.

726
00:38:36,040 –> 00:38:38,640
Not that I have no gripes with
Chinese government, but.

727
00:38:38,800 –> 00:38:41,320
We should all have gripe with
every government, just as a

728
00:38:41,480 –> 00:38:44,600
general rule.
I do, I do have to.

729
00:38:44,600 –> 00:38:46,800
I’m just was marveling at Adams
conspiracy.

730
00:38:46,880 –> 00:38:49,480
Occam’s razor there.
That was really beautiful.

731
00:38:50,600 –> 00:38:51,760
Thank you.
I don’t want I’m going to get

732
00:38:51,760 –> 00:38:53,880
one of those phones now.
How’s the camera?

733
00:38:53,880 –> 00:38:55,360
Is the camera good?
It was great.

734
00:38:55,360 –> 00:38:56,720
It was.
I’m telling you, it’s one of the

735
00:38:56,720 –> 00:38:59,120
best phones I ever had.
But I think they’re like

736
00:38:59,120 –> 00:39:02,920
borderline illegal to buy in
this country now.

737
00:39:03,480 –> 00:39:06,760
When the price point just
doesn’t scream consensual labor.

738
00:39:07,600 –> 00:39:08,800
Yeah.
Exactly.

739
00:39:09,160 –> 00:39:13,080
Yeah, as opposed to all the
happy fun times people putting

740
00:39:13,400 –> 00:39:17,400
Apple phones together.
They got a net.

741
00:39:20,400 –> 00:39:22,560
It’s the happy net.
It’s where happy people show how

742
00:39:22,560 –> 00:39:24,360
happy they are by jumping into
the net.

743
00:39:25,640 –> 00:39:28,440
Divorced of the life of
servitude.

744
00:39:28,640 –> 00:39:30,440
Looks kind of fun to jump in a
giant net.

745
00:39:30,440 –> 00:39:33,080
I mean, I used to go to the
gymnastics gym on Sundays in my

746
00:39:33,080 –> 00:39:34,200
neighborhood.
There’s an open gym.

747
00:39:34,200 –> 00:39:35,600
It’s 10 bucks.
You play in the big long

748
00:39:35,600 –> 00:39:37,280
trampoline.
I don’t see much of a

749
00:39:37,280 –> 00:39:40,840
difference.
Yeah, that would be so brutal.

750
00:39:41,200 –> 00:39:45,400
You are so unhappy in your job
that you jump off the fucking

751
00:39:45,400 –> 00:39:48,800
building.
Only to roll back down to the

752
00:39:48,800 –> 00:39:52,640
first floor into the lobby.
You get a Nat and just bounce

753
00:39:52,640 –> 00:39:55,520
right back to your fucking task
on the 15th floor.

754
00:39:55,520 –> 00:39:56,760
Oh God.
Damn.

755
00:39:57,480 –> 00:40:00,360
It That’s when Sideshow Bob
works at the I iPhone factory.

756
00:40:02,400 –> 00:40:06,840
So the other thing I always
worry about when it comes to all

757
00:40:06,840 –> 00:40:09,440
of this data collection, and
I’ve said this a bunch before,

758
00:40:09,440 –> 00:40:13,120
not just all the data
collection, but just the fact

759
00:40:13,320 –> 00:40:19,760
that Dreamers are a thing in
this country, DACA, it’s

760
00:40:19,760 –> 00:40:22,320
obviously a good thing.
I’m not in favor of mass

761
00:40:22,320 –> 00:40:25,560
deportations by any stretch of
the imagination.

762
00:40:25,680 –> 00:40:29,880
But now that they’re on the
table with Trump maybe becoming

763
00:40:29,880 –> 00:40:33,880
our next president again, DACA
is also just a really great

764
00:40:33,880 –> 00:40:37,760
database of people who are
probably going to get deported

765
00:40:37,760 –> 00:40:40,040
first.
Yeah, yeah.

766
00:40:40,240 –> 00:40:43,240
All that shit happens.
I was having a fight one time

767
00:40:43,240 –> 00:40:46,000
with a buddy of mine who’s from
Africa and the buddy of mine

768
00:40:46,000 –> 00:40:48,240
who’s gay.
So they’re obviously probably

769
00:40:48,240 –> 00:40:50,800
pretty different view of HIV and
AIDS.

770
00:40:50,800 –> 00:40:53,320
And my friend from Africa was
saying like this is like a

771
00:40:53,320 –> 00:40:55,320
global health risk.
There should be a list of

772
00:40:55,320 –> 00:40:58,000
everyone in the world in the
world with HIV and for whatever

773
00:40:58,000 –> 00:41:01,040
some uneducated guys is not the
craziest opinion to have.

774
00:41:01,040 –> 00:41:03,880
And my gay friend was like, it’s
never been a good idea for there

775
00:41:03,880 –> 00:41:05,800
to be a giant list of gay
people.

776
00:41:05,800 –> 00:41:06,680
You.
Fucking idiot.

777
00:41:07,280 –> 00:41:08,520
And then, yeah, I think that’s
true.

778
00:41:08,800 –> 00:41:13,120
So yeah, that that’s something
to keep in mind when people

779
00:41:13,120 –> 00:41:15,640
write this off as nothing that
important.

780
00:41:15,840 –> 00:41:17,920
That is so funny.
It’s not even like expanding

781
00:41:17,920 –> 00:41:20,280
executive power in terms of what
you got to worry about like the

782
00:41:20,280 –> 00:41:22,840
next guy using it.
It’s like we literally, we made

783
00:41:22,840 –> 00:41:25,560
a list of vulnerable people to
help and it’s like, oh fuck no,

784
00:41:25,560 –> 00:41:27,040
I mean nowhere.
All the vulnerable people.

785
00:41:27,040 –> 00:41:29,440
Yeah, now they have a list of
end addresses and their parents.

786
00:41:30,520 –> 00:41:33,640
Yeah, and I’m pretty sure that
program requires you to like

787
00:41:33,840 –> 00:41:35,600
regularly check in like you’re
on.

788
00:41:35,800 –> 00:41:39,480
Pretty sure, yeah.
I mean, that’s what, when people

789
00:41:39,480 –> 00:41:42,880
are talking about Haitian
immigrants flocking to

790
00:41:43,000 –> 00:41:47,000
Springfield, OH, the program
they’re doing that under is

791
00:41:47,000 –> 00:41:49,360
literally called humanitarian
parole.

792
00:41:50,560 –> 00:41:53,960
So it’s God.
That’s a weird word to use for

793
00:41:53,960 –> 00:41:54,600
it.
Yeah.

794
00:41:54,960 –> 00:41:57,760
Yeah, right.
We got to, we got to fold it

795
00:41:57,760 –> 00:42:00,280
into the penal system somehow,
always, you know?

796
00:42:00,600 –> 00:42:04,600
Yeah, because it just makes it
sound like they they are bad.

797
00:42:04,600 –> 00:42:06,640
But we are helping, you know
what I mean?

798
00:42:06,640 –> 00:42:11,920
Like it doesn’t it already kind
of sets them in a light of being

799
00:42:11,920 –> 00:42:14,760
suspicious just by having the
word parole there because of

800
00:42:14,760 –> 00:42:17,240
what we use the word parole for
colloquially be.

801
00:42:17,480 –> 00:42:19,480
Like if you called Nelson
Mandela getting out of jail a

802
00:42:19,480 –> 00:42:21,920
work release.
Yeah, yeah, a little bit.

803
00:42:22,120 –> 00:42:24,680
Kind of, I don’t know, Sometimes
I cook up an analogy and I get

804
00:42:24,680 –> 00:42:25,960
real confident and I’m like, is
that?

805
00:42:26,920 –> 00:42:30,520
Even.
So I already mentioned the five

806
00:42:30,720 –> 00:42:37,400
is are getting into AI now.
They held a summit recently, and

807
00:42:37,440 –> 00:42:39,920
for one thing, they’re starting
to show their faces in public.

808
00:42:39,920 –> 00:42:43,720
The leaders of the Five Eyes
almost never emerge from their

809
00:42:43,760 –> 00:42:45,320
layers.
This is like you.

810
00:42:45,320 –> 00:42:46,680
They don’t even show their
faces.

811
00:42:46,680 –> 00:42:48,880
There’s no you can’t.
Like Jon Ronson and Alex Jones

812
00:42:48,880 –> 00:42:51,360
never even broke into their
secret clubhouse with a fucking

813
00:42:51,360 –> 00:42:55,120
flip Cam in 1998 and took grainy
video of them doing anything.

814
00:42:55,120 –> 00:42:59,480
There’s no fucking TMZ picture
of them going into the Plaza

815
00:42:59,480 –> 00:43:01,560
Hotel.
Fucking doctor claw man, we got

816
00:43:01,560 –> 00:43:01,960
nothing.
This.

817
00:43:02,280 –> 00:43:04,640
Is Doctor Claw.
Yeah, there is now.

818
00:43:04,760 –> 00:43:07,240
Now they’re starting to show up.
But.

819
00:43:07,400 –> 00:43:11,000
And that almost makes me feel
even less good about.

820
00:43:11,120 –> 00:43:13,600
That they’re like we can show
our faces in public now the

821
00:43:13,600 –> 00:43:15,400
sunlight no longer burns our
skin.

822
00:43:15,960 –> 00:43:17,880
Yeah, yeah.
And it’s also that thing that I

823
00:43:17,880 –> 00:43:20,600
was talking about earlier about
the dog whistles, when you no

824
00:43:20,600 –> 00:43:24,120
longer feel like you have to use
them because you can just say

825
00:43:24,120 –> 00:43:26,000
the quiet part out loud.
It’s like, oh, I can’t.

826
00:43:26,000 –> 00:43:27,280
There’s nothing you can do to
me.

827
00:43:27,280 –> 00:43:30,000
I can just be public.
Yeah, yeah, really.

828
00:43:30,280 –> 00:43:36,440
And I’ve talked a bunch on this
podcast about how the CIA has an

829
00:43:36,520 –> 00:43:41,360
investment fund, like a Silicon
Valley tech bro investment fund

830
00:43:41,360 –> 00:43:43,840
called Intel Q.
To the moon.

831
00:43:44,400 –> 00:43:46,720
I would buy that shit.
That would be my whole take it

832
00:43:46,720 –> 00:43:53,120
all out of index funds, the S&P
500, Intel Q to the moon, me and

833
00:43:53,120 –> 00:43:56,880
Pelosi baby.
Yeah, they, among other things,

834
00:43:56,880 –> 00:44:01,760
were early investors in Google
Earth, if you can believe that.

835
00:44:02,040 –> 00:44:07,000
The CIA for some reason wanted
to pump money into the program

836
00:44:07,000 –> 00:44:09,360
that will take a picture of
anywhere on earth.

837
00:44:09,640 –> 00:44:12,200
Weird time, crazy.
Go figure.

838
00:44:12,360 –> 00:44:14,600
Yeah, they just really want to
see a picture of my parents

839
00:44:14,600 –> 00:44:15,520
backyard.
That’s tight.

840
00:44:15,640 –> 00:44:17,760
Trying to find that river full
of milfs from earlier.

841
00:44:18,160 –> 00:44:26,080
Yeah, river MILF.
MILF river wider than a mile.

842
00:44:27,800 –> 00:44:33,320
You’re jiggling in style, OK?
I bring the CI as investment

843
00:44:33,320 –> 00:44:37,720
fund up because the Five Eyes
are now hosting an annual tech

844
00:44:37,720 –> 00:44:41,080
conference in Silicon Valley
because.

845
00:44:41,280 –> 00:44:44,200
Even if you told me ISIS was
having a Bake Off, you know I

846
00:44:44,200 –> 00:44:46,480
wouldn’t be through.
It’s whatever these guys are

847
00:44:46,480 –> 00:44:48,040
doing.
It’s not great, but that seems

848
00:44:48,040 –> 00:44:51,640
especially bad.
Yeah, I mean that to me.

849
00:44:51,640 –> 00:44:56,960
Just it kind of speaks to what
Danielle was saying in that it’s

850
00:44:56,960 –> 00:45:01,800
really just normalizing the fact
that, yeah, the government’s on

851
00:45:01,800 –> 00:45:05,000
your phone, like they listening
to everything.

852
00:45:05,160 –> 00:45:06,920
Remember when?
Yeah, that just seemed like the

853
00:45:06,920 –> 00:45:09,920
kind of thing that you would
have to watch a Vice special to

854
00:45:10,000 –> 00:45:12,920
see, you know what I mean?
It wasn’t some big thing that

855
00:45:12,920 –> 00:45:15,640
was right out in the open.
You’d have to go to your buddy’s

856
00:45:15,640 –> 00:45:21,160
smelly garage and listen to a 20
minute analysis of some cool

857
00:45:21,160 –> 00:45:26,640
lyrics and then.
Yeah, and now it’s just, well,

858
00:45:26,640 –> 00:45:30,080
like Connor was saying earlier,
a lot of the things that are

859
00:45:30,080 –> 00:45:33,760
used to spy on us, we fucking
stand in line to get it.

860
00:45:33,920 –> 00:45:36,120
And the example I always bring
up, Alexa.

861
00:45:36,680 –> 00:45:40,640
Yeah, exactly.
I covered a book on a couple

862
00:45:40,640 –> 00:45:43,480
episodes a while back called The
CIA and the Cult of

863
00:45:43,480 –> 00:45:45,680
Intelligence.
That one’s the ones that’s out

864
00:45:45,680 –> 00:45:47,160
of print, right?
Yeah, yeah.

865
00:45:47,160 –> 00:45:49,320
It’s long out of print.
It was the first book the

866
00:45:49,320 –> 00:45:53,880
government ever tried to get
censored and they did get a lot

867
00:45:53,880 –> 00:45:57,720
of it censored me and.
ATB got some fucking hard to get

868
00:45:57,720 –> 00:46:00,400
as books that we don’t need to
be reading.

869
00:46:01,760 –> 00:46:06,960
And one of the big concerns in
that book, and that book was

870
00:46:06,960 –> 00:46:09,640
published in like 71, something
like that.

871
00:46:09,800 –> 00:46:13,360
One of the big concerns is, Oh
well, someday the government

872
00:46:13,600 –> 00:46:17,160
will probably just have a way to
take a picture of every piece of

873
00:46:17,160 –> 00:46:20,760
mail that’s sent to your house.
You can just sign up for that

874
00:46:20,760 –> 00:46:23,440
now.
That’s just a USPS program

875
00:46:24,160 –> 00:46:26,960
called Informed.
That’s so funny, in case you

876
00:46:26,960 –> 00:46:31,280
know your mailbox is 100 yards
away and you need an informed

877
00:46:31,440 –> 00:46:34,200
decision on whether you should
get up and walk that far that

878
00:46:34,200 –> 00:46:36,040
day.
I think we’re we’re pretty

879
00:46:36,040 –> 00:46:40,160
aggressively self parodying the
most ham fisted first thought

880
00:46:40,200 –> 00:46:44,680
analogy, which is 1984 the
fucking telescreens where you

881
00:46:44,680 –> 00:46:47,280
watch a thing that tells you
what to think all day and it

882
00:46:47,280 –> 00:46:49,640
looks at everything you do so it
can make sure that you’re not

883
00:46:49,840 –> 00:46:52,920
fucking up.
And like, how close have we?

884
00:46:52,920 –> 00:46:54,840
And we all know that’s the
relationship.

885
00:46:54,840 –> 00:46:57,840
Every fucking Uber driver I’ve
ever met makes a joke about how

886
00:46:57,840 –> 00:46:58,920
their phone is listening to
them.

887
00:46:58,920 –> 00:47:02,920
It’s not a concept that is
hidden behind some barrier of

888
00:47:02,920 –> 00:47:06,320
libertarian douchebaggery.
We all like know about this shit

889
00:47:06,600 –> 00:47:10,120
and we’re just like, well,
that’s where I get my fucking

890
00:47:10,120 –> 00:47:13,680
Costco family boom.
Or do.

891
00:47:14,360 –> 00:47:17,120
And your employers do it too.
I remember when I got I got a

892
00:47:17,120 –> 00:47:21,040
work issue laptop for a job that
I was on and I noticed that like

893
00:47:21,040 –> 00:47:24,960
my boss had like a piece of
opaque tape that she would put

894
00:47:24,960 –> 00:47:27,960
over her camera every time she
would bust her computer out.

895
00:47:27,960 –> 00:47:32,840
And I was like, oh, you’re like
in charge of most of this.

896
00:47:33,000 –> 00:47:35,640
I should probably do that with
my work computer as well.

897
00:47:35,880 –> 00:47:37,600
Oh, Zuckerberg has one.
You ever see that?

898
00:47:38,000 –> 00:47:40,320
Yeah, about the only time you
want to take a cue from him

899
00:47:40,320 –> 00:47:42,760
about anything but.
Yeah, there were.

900
00:47:42,760 –> 00:47:45,560
I don’t remember who it was, but
someone was visiting Facebook

901
00:47:45,560 –> 00:47:49,160
headquarters and they saw Mark
Zuckerberg had tape over his

902
00:47:49,160 –> 00:47:50,600
webcam.
And they were like, fuck, I

903
00:47:50,600 –> 00:47:52,200
better put tape over my webcam,
huh?

904
00:47:52,240 –> 00:47:54,640
Yeah, yeah.
There’s a few things where I’m

905
00:47:54,640 –> 00:47:58,160
like, there’s some people.
I say take it all in.

906
00:48:00,280 –> 00:48:03,880
Look, I use my webcam as a
mirror sometimes, so definitely

907
00:48:04,000 –> 00:48:07,920
not the best, just not ideal.
And the idea that your phone is

908
00:48:07,920 –> 00:48:13,560
listening to you, you still get
so much pushback from people on

909
00:48:13,560 –> 00:48:15,240
that.
And it’s like you’re fucking

910
00:48:15,240 –> 00:48:17,680
smart.
TV is listening to you.

911
00:48:17,680 –> 00:48:20,200
It’s it’s job.
Yeah, we know.

912
00:48:20,200 –> 00:48:24,800
As again, part of the Snowden
documents that were released,

913
00:48:25,000 –> 00:48:28,560
the CIA had a program called
Weeping Angel, and it just

914
00:48:28,560 –> 00:48:31,320
turned smart TV’s into listening
devices.

915
00:48:31,360 –> 00:48:33,320
It would just activate
listening.

916
00:48:33,320 –> 00:48:35,920
That was before they turned into
9 Inch Nails.

917
00:48:35,920 –> 00:48:38,880
They were called Weeping Angel.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

918
00:48:38,880 –> 00:48:40,600
It’s a spin off of filter
actually.

919
00:48:40,760 –> 00:48:44,360
Yeah, OK.
That was the same team behind

920
00:48:44,360 –> 00:48:46,040
Five Eyes.
That name’s kind of hard.

921
00:48:46,040 –> 00:48:47,360
I wanted to hate it but I was
like.

922
00:48:47,600 –> 00:48:48,760
Yeah, that goes pretty fucking
hard.

923
00:48:48,800 –> 00:48:50,360
I don’t know.
I don’t know the correlation

924
00:48:50,360 –> 00:48:52,640
between that and ATV, but I’m a
Finder.

925
00:48:52,640 –> 00:48:54,720
It sounds pretty great.
Yeah, I do need.

926
00:48:54,720 –> 00:48:56,680
I wish I was in that room when
they were like, you know what?

927
00:48:56,680 –> 00:48:58,400
We should call this Weeping
Angel.

928
00:48:58,560 –> 00:49:02,360
That’s probably the scariest
part of that program.

929
00:49:02,440 –> 00:49:06,000
Whatever reasoning they have for
calling it Weeping Angel, that’s

930
00:49:06,000 –> 00:49:08,640
the part where if you read it,
you would just drop dead on

931
00:49:08,640 –> 00:49:11,320
sight from the shots.
Yeah, yeah.

932
00:49:11,440 –> 00:49:13,240
Or it’s just a Doctor Who thing.
I don’t.

933
00:49:13,320 –> 00:49:17,560
Know random name generator.
One thing I saw at an Art Museum

934
00:49:17,560 –> 00:49:20,120
in Phoenix one time, but they
you can Google the thing.

935
00:49:20,120 –> 00:49:23,480
It’s real.
It is patches for classified

936
00:49:23,480 –> 00:49:28,200
government military programs and
they’re fucking insane.

937
00:49:28,200 –> 00:49:33,640
One of them is like a starry
sky, a spaceship, an alien, and

938
00:49:33,640 –> 00:49:37,800
it says embroidered underneath,
a lifetime of silence behind the

939
00:49:37,800 –> 00:49:40,280
green door.
OK.

940
00:49:40,520 –> 00:49:43,400
OK.
Oh no, that’s not the behind the

941
00:49:43,400 –> 00:49:45,560
green door I first think of, but
OK.

942
00:49:46,800 –> 00:49:48,000
What’s the green door you think
of?

943
00:49:48,400 –> 00:49:50,680
Oh, that’s that one really
famous porn movie from what,

944
00:49:50,680 –> 00:49:52,520
like the 70s or some ship?
Oh, shit.

945
00:49:52,920 –> 00:49:54,120
Oh, is it, man?
Yeah.

946
00:49:54,120 –> 00:49:55,240
It’s like, great.
Shame on me.

947
00:49:55,240 –> 00:49:58,720
I don’t know my history.
I’m look, if you don’t know your

948
00:49:58,720 –> 00:50:00,200
history, you’re doomed to
repeat.

949
00:50:01,800 –> 00:50:04,160
It means there’s a lot of push
in our future, yeah.

950
00:50:06,320 –> 00:50:10,120
So yeah, the government’s spying
on you wherever you are, if

951
00:50:10,120 –> 00:50:13,120
you’re in an English speaking
nation, especially government’s

952
00:50:13,320 –> 00:50:15,920
listening.
And I don’t know, I feel like we

953
00:50:15,920 –> 00:50:19,520
should all know that by now.
And the reason I brought up the

954
00:50:19,520 –> 00:50:23,440
smart TV thing, if they can turn
that into a listening device,

955
00:50:23,440 –> 00:50:28,160
they can turn the thing that has
a microphone that you speak into

956
00:50:28,400 –> 00:50:31,040
if you’re still taking phone
calls like a fucking psychopath.

957
00:50:31,200 –> 00:50:33,800
They just have a phone so they
can put a microphone in it.

958
00:50:34,440 –> 00:50:38,400
And yeah, and if you what I’ve
never understood about the idea,

959
00:50:38,400 –> 00:50:39,960
no, your phone’s not listening
to you.

960
00:50:40,160 –> 00:50:42,680
Well, then how come it answers
me when I call its name?

961
00:50:43,480 –> 00:50:45,880
It’s got to be listening to me.
Huawei.

962
00:50:46,080 –> 00:50:50,520
Sometimes when I don’t say its
name, it thinks I said its name

963
00:50:50,640 –> 00:50:52,400
and it’s like, what up?
What do you need?

964
00:50:52,600 –> 00:50:54,920
So of course your phones fucking
listening to you.

965
00:50:55,080 –> 00:50:58,560
There’s no way it’s a
coincidence when that thing

966
00:50:58,560 –> 00:51:01,520
happens where you’re having a
conversation with someone in

967
00:51:01,520 –> 00:51:04,880
your living room and then you go
on Instagram and get an ad for

968
00:51:04,880 –> 00:51:06,680
the fucking thing you were just
talking about.

969
00:51:06,840 –> 00:51:10,960
Or worst of all, your Apple
Watch randomly goes Googling how

970
00:51:10,960 –> 00:51:15,520
many dead babies did the Hamas
fighters actually assault?

971
00:51:15,760 –> 00:51:18,960
Yeah.
So yeah, I’m gonna get a Nokia,

972
00:51:19,440 –> 00:51:23,360
Adam.
Let’s get like a 28 to 35 mile

973
00:51:23,360 –> 00:51:26,920
long piece of twine and two red
cups.

974
00:51:27,160 –> 00:51:29,640
Yeah.
That’s not a bad we could record

975
00:51:29,640 –> 00:51:32,080
that way too.
We pop one other line off the

976
00:51:32,080 –> 00:51:34,200
end for Danielle and then a
fourth.

977
00:51:34,200 –> 00:51:36,560
Line 3 way calling, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

978
00:51:36,640 –> 00:51:38,400
We’d have to.
Well, we if we can afford the

979
00:51:38,400 –> 00:51:41,440
cups, but as long as we’re
holding it taught, it should be

980
00:51:41,720 –> 00:51:43,080
fine.
As long as it’s taught.

981
00:51:43,400 –> 00:51:45,480
Good work.
I’m sure the government can hack

982
00:51:45,480 –> 00:51:47,600
that too.
That’s been around forever.

983
00:51:47,760 –> 00:51:50,800
That’s kind of technology.
Somewhere around the city of

984
00:51:50,800 –> 00:51:53,320
Downey, the feds added a fifth
string.

985
00:51:53,520 –> 00:51:59,360
Laughing Angel, that program.
So I think that’s our episode.

986
00:51:59,360 –> 00:52:01,240
We did it.
Turn your phones off, throw them

987
00:52:01,240 –> 00:52:03,880
in the river.
Danielle Connor, thank you both

988
00:52:03,880 –> 00:52:06,040
for doing the pod.
I appreciate it.

989
00:52:06,360 –> 00:52:10,040
It seems like the I appeal time
to plug some shit.

990
00:52:10,200 –> 00:52:13,120
I would like people to listen to
my solo podcast in broad

991
00:52:13,120 –> 00:52:15,160
daylight.
It will be back next week.

992
00:52:15,280 –> 00:52:17,600
This is tax time for me, so I’ve
been busy.

993
00:52:17,800 –> 00:52:21,120
You can get it wherever podcasts
are at or watch it on YouTube at

994
00:52:21,160 –> 00:52:23,760
Adam Todd Brown Comedy.
It’s short, it’s fun, it’s

995
00:52:23,760 –> 00:52:26,280
informative, but listen to it.
Danielle, what do you got to

996
00:52:26,280 –> 00:52:28,760
plug?
Oh, it’s find me on my socials.

997
00:52:28,760 –> 00:52:31,120
Anything I’ve got coming up, I
got, I got on there.

998
00:52:31,120 –> 00:52:33,560
I’m just Daniel Radford.
I’m still one of the last people

999
00:52:33,560 –> 00:52:37,680
clinging to the fucking Titanic
door on Twitter and I’m now

1000
00:52:37,680 –> 00:52:39,400
posting more on the many people
website.

1001
00:52:40,400 –> 00:52:42,920
No, I won’t.
I won’t.

1002
00:52:43,120 –> 00:52:45,560
Die com.
It isn’t even me.

1003
00:52:45,760 –> 00:52:48,200
It’s not even me being like fuck
Elon.

1004
00:52:48,200 –> 00:52:50,480
It’s just like I’m not doing it
like I.

1005
00:52:50,800 –> 00:52:53,200
I’m just.
Kidding, I’ve lived in the 90s,

1006
00:52:53,200 –> 00:52:56,240
I can’t call something X like.
It just feels too.

1007
00:52:56,240 –> 00:52:58,480
Douchey.
It’s so douchey.

1008
00:52:58,880 –> 00:53:02,760
There’s only 1X and they they
there are punk bands from 1979.

1009
00:53:02,760 –> 00:53:04,040
Damn it.
Here we go.

1010
00:53:04,560 –> 00:53:08,240
I will from time to time say
Twitter, currently known as X.

1011
00:53:08,400 –> 00:53:09,720
Yeah, I’ll do that if I have to.
Like, yeah.

1012
00:53:10,200 –> 00:53:13,520
I will never ever say X.
Formerly known as Twitter.

1013
00:53:13,600 –> 00:53:15,920
It’s like fucking stop it.
Stop saying that.

1014
00:53:16,160 –> 00:53:18,520
I only say it as a joke.
Yeah, it’s so funny.

1015
00:53:18,520 –> 00:53:21,440
Currently X.
Currently, yeah.

1016
00:53:21,440 –> 00:53:23,120
And then I’m also on the Pretty
People website, I’m on

1017
00:53:23,120 –> 00:53:24,920
Instagram.
It’s just Danielle under score

1018
00:53:24,920 –> 00:53:27,880
Radford and I’m trying to get on
to the other ones, but everyone

1019
00:53:27,880 –> 00:53:31,600
on Blue Sky is boring and
Threads is like weird.

1020
00:53:31,680 –> 00:53:33,680
I’m working on it, y’all?
I’m figuring it out.

1021
00:53:34,000 –> 00:53:35,840
I’m old.
Connor, what do you got to plug?

1022
00:53:36,160 –> 00:53:38,520
Hey, watch my one hour stand up
comedy special jokes about

1023
00:53:38,520 –> 00:53:42,120
Fucking on youtube.com and check
out the Mean Boys podcast.

1024
00:53:42,120 –> 00:53:46,400
It’s back for new episodes.
It is how do I describe it in 10

1025
00:53:46,400 –> 00:53:48,280
seconds?
It is a cavalcade of comedy.

1026
00:53:48,280 –> 00:53:53,360
We have monologue jokes, games,
fucking sketches, all kinds of

1027
00:53:53,360 –> 00:53:55,400
crazy shit.
We put a lot of writing and

1028
00:53:55,400 –> 00:53:58,800
effort into every show to make
it a finally spun piece of

1029
00:53:58,800 –> 00:54:01,800
audible taffy for you to do on
throughout your day.

1030
00:54:01,800 –> 00:54:04,480
And it’s a very enjoyable Adam.
But I guess many times we got

1031
00:54:04,560 –> 00:54:05,880
happy back.
Yeah, let’s do it.

1032
00:54:06,160 –> 00:54:07,760
You’ve made a couple of taffy
references now.

1033
00:54:07,760 –> 00:54:10,040
Now I am wondering what your
porn search looks like.

1034
00:54:10,240 –> 00:54:14,960
Yeah, a lot of salt water.
Worst taffy.

1035
00:54:15,240 –> 00:54:17,120
All right, let’s get out of
here.

1036
00:54:17,120 –> 00:54:19,920
Danielle, say goodbye.
Bye Connor.

1037
00:54:19,920 –> 00:54:21,720
Say goodbye.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1038
00:54:22,920 –> 00:54:24,200
Goodbye everybody, we love you.

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