Adam and guest Cory Robinson discuss a mostly forgotten moment in American history when the family of Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. filed a civil lawsuit implicating a man named Loyd Jowers and various government agencies over his murder and won. Don’t let Snopes tell you it didn’t matter!
Show notes: https://conspirapod.link/ep302
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I.
Hey everybody, welcome to
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Conspiracy the Show.
I’m your host, Adam Todd Brown,
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joining me as Co host this week.
Oh, my favorite Co host of all.
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No Co host, but I do have a
fantastic guest, Corey
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Robinson’s here.
How’s it going, man?
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Hi everybody, good to see you
even though you can’t see me.
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You all know him, you all love
him.
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He’s been on the show before and
a bunch of other podcasts that
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we do.
Corey, thank you for doing the
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pod today.
Oh.
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No worries.
We’re talking about a thing that
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I’ve brought up a bunch on this
podcast, but I’ve never really
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done a full episode about it.
I did write a Cracked article
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way, way back in the day about
conspiracy theories that did
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actually happen, and boy do
people love to borrow from that
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article.
But this was one of the stories
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I included in that.
We are talking about the family
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of Doctor Martin Luther King
Junior and their lawsuit that
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they filed against the
government of the United States
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and a man named Lloyd Jowers in
1997.
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I believe they filed it and the
verdict came down in 1999 and
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the verdict of that trial was
Lloyd Jowers conspired with
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government agencies to kill
Martin Luther King Junior.
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Had you ever heard anything
about this lawsuit?
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I heard about the lawsuit just
in passing.
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And just as both a black man and
a comedian, people are just
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going to throw random facts out
at you and be like, did you know
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that Martin Luther King, his
family sued the government and
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won?
And I was like, not really.
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And I looked it up and like, oh,
shit, they sued the government
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and won because I, I didn’t
really look into the specifics
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of it, but I just Googled it to
see if he was just saying any
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bullshit or whatnot.
And I was like, get out of here.
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Yeah.
And it’s in line with everything
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that was happening with the FBI
and whatnot in the 60s and 70s
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and systematically taking out
the Black Panthers, Martin
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Luther King, Malcolm X, just
about everybody important in
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Black history.
Oh yeah, just anyone who was
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even sort of progressive got it
in the 60s.
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Fred Hampton, Macgyver’s.
The Kennedys.
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What a fucking time to be alive.
Or not.
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Yeah, exactly.
What a time to be UN alive.
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Yeah, James Earl Ray is
historically the person who
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killed Martin Luther King
Junior.
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That is what history has always
taught us.
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But he has maintained his
innocence all the way up until
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he died.
But starting about a year after
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the killing of Doctor King,
James O Ray changed the story
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and said his confession was
coerced.
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His lawyer pressured him into it
also, and that he was actually
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innocent.
And that’s one of the things
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that bothers me about this
theory, and we’ll get to it more
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later.
But just the fact that he
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changed his confession, a lot of
people now, when they look at
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this story in this new version
of events, they’re like, yeah,
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but he already confessed once.
And we have decades and decades
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of the police coercing
confessions out of people by
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now.
We see him do it in true crime
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shows.
We know how they do it.
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So I don’t give a shit if he
changed his.
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Story.
But who would ever think the
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police would wood forest someone
to do something that wasn’t
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true?
To get a confession and whatnot.
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That doesn’t happen at all.
Also to change your confession
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from killing Martin Luther King
as a white man in the 1960s.
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You.
Have to be like, I won’t say
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you’re innocent, but something’s
up because that’s one of the few
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things you can go to jail for in
the South.
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And you might be better off in
jail than out on the streets
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because that’s like killing
pedophiles around gang members.
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Like they’re going to treat you
like a king.
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They love you for that.
If you killed Martin Luther
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King, the person that was trying
to get equality for black people
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but unify all people and you’re
racist, you just did DD.
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You ain’t never got to pay for
soups, honey buns, nothing.
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Some we got you over here.
Yeah, I bet he was flush with
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ramen noodles till the day he
died.
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Now I do wonder if he was living
like Escobar in prison, just
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fucking eating steak and shit
because all those racists
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thought he killed Martin Luther
King.
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Yeah, the KKKS were going to
come by and just drop by tribute
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every few seconds.
You know, some of the, yeah,
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every bland food you can think
of.
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Help yourself.
So everyone should know the
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official version of events.
But if not the short one is
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James Earl Ray is alleged to
have shot and killed Doctor
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Martin Luther King while he was
standing on the balcony of a
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motel in Memphis called the
Lorraine Motel.
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And starting around 1997, ML KS
family, including his widow
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Coretta Scott King, began
voicing their concerns about
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James Earl Ray having been set
up and started demanding a new
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investigation.
And here’s my question about
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James Earl Ray and how he was
caught.
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And this is for any skeptics out
there who are like, the
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government would never lie to
us.
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Of course, James or Ray is the
person who did the shooting.
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He is often described as a
career criminal, but he’s a
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career petty criminal.
He wasn’t a violent criminal,
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but still a career criminal.
He was caught because he left
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the gun at the scene, wrapped in
a towel or a blanket or
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something or paper, and it had
his fingerprints on it.
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Would a career criminal do that
or would they know to take the
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fucking gun with them?
I don’t get it.
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I don’t understand why you leave
gun wrapped in a towel.
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That’s not conspicuous at all.
Also just as a side note, every
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time I read or hear James Earl
Ray, I think James Earl Jones
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and that’s a much funnier
version of events.
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Someone heard someone deep voice
leaving the scene of the crime.
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Yeah, it would be funny if James
Earl Jones actually did it and
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they just fucked up the name.
Somehow that was like James Earl
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Jones, rest in peace, rest in
power.
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It was also a very prominent
black man as far as just being
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an actor and portraying
important people.
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So if he was going to kill
Martin Luther King, that just
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that’s like a whole, that’s a
plot twist nobody saw coming.
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Yeah, that would be a turn of
events for sure.
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And so like I said earlier, one
of the big sticking points with
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James Earl Ray is that he
confessed at 1st.
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And that reminds me of whenever
I bring up the possibility that
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Kurt Cobain was murdered instead
of having committed suicide.
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The pushback I’ve gotten on that
is, well, you’re ignoring
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decades of depression or years
of depression.
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And no, I’m not, Not every
person who’s depressed commits
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suicide, for one thing.
But also that’s what people are
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ignoring here when they’re like,
oh, well, he confessed, so he
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did it.
It’s like, again, we have so
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many coerced confessions on the
books now, such a long history
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of people being exonerated and
let out of prison because we
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found out their confessions were
coerced.
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So that doesn’t do shit for me.
But also, let’s talk about
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Occam’s razor.
It’s a thing you hear all the
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time with conspiracy theories,
and it’s basically whatever
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answer doesn’t require the most
leaps in logic.
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That’s your answer.
And if you’re one of those
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people out there and you’re
thinking, ah, the government
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said James Earl Ray did it, it’s
probably that James Earl Ray did
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it.
What’s more likely, that a
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career criminal with barely
discernible political leanings
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just up and decided to escalate
his crimes to political
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assassination, or that the
agency that had been surveilling
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and harassing MLK, up to and
including sending him a letter
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telling him to commit suicide,
eventually just decided to go
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ahead and kill him?
Yeah, they had already made like
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the equivalent of a sex tape to
try and discredit him during
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that whole time frame.
And leaping ahead a little bit,
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they were found at least civilly
liable for the assassination of
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Martin Luther King.
So the evidence is there.
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And honestly, there’s not a big
enough outcry of that like the
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we have on the records, proof
that the federal government is
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responsible.
They’re not saying they killed
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him, but they are responsible
for his death.
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And it’s not a big enough deal.
Yeah, I know.
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I definitely am old enough that
if this was big news in 1999, I
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would have remembered I was
already in my 20s by then.
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I was just getting out of high
school.
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And that was like pre Internet.
So if we were I mean not pre
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Internet but like very early
Internet.
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Free social media.
Yeah, when we weren’t really
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getting our news from the
Internet.
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So yeah, I feel like we both
probably would have heard about
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this if it was a bigger deal.
And that’s one of the things
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people bring up about it is that
this happened and no one talks
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about it.
We’re going to talk about some
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of the debunking of this idea
later.
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A lot of it just boils down to,
yeah, but yeah, but nothing.
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A jury found the fucking
government complicit in killing
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Martin Luther King Junior.
There’s no.
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Yeah, but about that.
Not just complicit and
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responsible for.
It’s like, the same thing as,
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like, look, OJ was not guilty of
murder, but he was absolutely
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guilty in that civil trial.
Yeah.
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And had to pay like, or would
have been if not for his pension
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being covered.
He would have to pay, like,
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hundreds of millions of dollars
in restitution to the families.
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But that’s the point.
Look, we can’t get you on
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murder, but we know you did it.
So here’s a way to be fiscally
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responsible for their deaths.
OJ is actually a great point
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because by the reasoning here,
you could just as easily say,
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no, OJ didn’t murder Nicole
Brown Simpson.
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He went to court and he was
found not guilty.
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And then someone is going to
bring up, yeah, but the civil
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trial.
And you’re like, it’s a civil
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trial.
No one cares about that.
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It’s like, oh, that matters too.
I’ve had that exact same
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argument when I want to piss off
white people.
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So yeah, like the same beats
verbatim.
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And yeah, like I may be and I’m
talking out of my ass each time,
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but it’s an apartment
comparison.
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So why does the King family
doubt James Earl Ray was the
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killer?
Let’s talk about that.
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I would assume Occam’s razor it
poses the least questions.
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And what proof do they really
have of him carrying said rifle
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from the scene?
Nobody saw him actually leave
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with it.
The question you posed earlier
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is it make more sense that the
government that was proven to be
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complicit in his murder might
have had something to do with it
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than it does that this one guy
just happened to shoot him.
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Now, granted, there is a lot of
motive to just being a white
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dude shooting Martin Luther
King.
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That’s Ethan.
But I’m sure his family thinks,
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yeah, that’s easy.
There’s got to be more to it
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than that.
Yeah, I want people out there to
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imagine if a woman was being
stalked and the police had
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documented all this evidence of
her being stalked and followed.
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They know who’s stalking her.
They know who’s following her.
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And then one day she’s
mysteriously murdered, find some
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stranger’s fingerprints on a
soda bottle near her.
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And instead of going after the
people who’d been stalking her
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for months and months and
months, they’re like, oh, it’s
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probably the soda bottle person
that did it.
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No, it’s probably the people
who’ve been so focused on him
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for years before this.
We have so much documentation of
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the things they did to surveil
him, harass him, stalk him.
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And I don’t remember which
resource I was reading, but one
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of the things people point to,
oh, it’s actually a book by
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William Pepper, who was James
Earl Ray’s lawyer at the
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beginning of that book.
He points out the thing that
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probably got MLK killed above
everything else was right near
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the end of his life.
He came out in opposition to the
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Vietnam War.
Really.
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Strongly opposed to the Vietnam
War.
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I could see that being a thing
that would put the American
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government over the edge because
Vietnam was already such a huge
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sticking point with people and
MLK already had such a huge
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following.
You get those two things
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together, and that was going to
be big problems for the United
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States.
So yeah, it stands to reason
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that it would have been the FBI
over some lone wacko.
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And it brings me to a thing I
talked about on last week’s
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episode, which is whenever
there’s a story like this, you
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inevitably get some kind of
conspiracy expert who gets in
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the newspapers or on TV.
And it’s just like, look, this
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is just people trying to make
sense out of a world that
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doesn’t make sense.
And no, sometimes people just
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want answers and they’re not
getting them.
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And I think it’s really
offensive that they use that
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push back here.
Specifically, we’ll link to a
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Washington Post article where
they interview an MLK biographer
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named Dave Garrow.
So old white dude.
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And he lays that fucking
explanation on the King family.
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Here’s what he told the
Washington Post Quote.
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The King Children are part of a
larger population of American
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people who need to believe that
the assassination of a King or a
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Kennedy must be the work of
mightier forces rather than
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victims of small fry lifetime
losers.
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People need to see something of
a balance between effect and
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’cause that if something has a
huge evil effect, it should be
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the result of a huge evil cause.
End Quote.
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Notice how he called them the
King Children.
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Coretta Scott King has been
suspecting that the FBI did this
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since the day her husband died.
Obviously like it’s not just the
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kids, so it’s weird that he
called them the King children in
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that moment.
They’re the King family like his
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wife.
Also this.
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Line about the King children
needed to be more than just some
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wacko.
It makes sense from a writer
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standpoint, but it doesn’t make
sense from a logical standpoint.
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And what you said about Martin
Luther King opposing the Vietnam
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War, it’s funny to me that
because Martin Luther King was
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assassinated, for lack of a
better term, white America has
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whitewashed his legacy so deeply
that all we as Americans tend to
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remember is that I have a dream
speech.
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Yeah.
But even in that very speech, he
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was calling for much more than
just can’t we all just get
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along?
You know what I mean?
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Like, people love to take those
little sound bites of a black
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man who’s been oppressed and be
like, can’t we all just get
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along?
Or I dream of a day with my kids
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and your kids are play together
and were content of our
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character, not the color of my
skin.
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Yeah, they love doing that sound
effect, but they never go back
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to.
Oh, he opposed the Vietnam War
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or the non violence was just a
strategy to get the world to see
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how evil the the people against
him were.
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And after a few ass weapons
like, all right, we ain’t doing
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this shit no more.
Let’s get some security.
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And also he was staunchly about
reparations and I and
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personally, that’s what I
thought got him killed was the
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fact that there’s a speech out
there where he’s like, we’re
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coming next time we go to
Washington, we’re coming to get
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our check.
People tend to make Martin
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Luther King is just this
altruistic St. instead of a
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black man that wanted like he
wanted ultimately everyone to be
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able to live in harmony, but he
was also more about just hey,
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black people are getting
destroyed over here and this
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ain’t right.
And also patriotism is
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interesting.
Went all over the Midwest this
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summer doing comedy and you see
like people that just kind of
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believe that American dream is
love the flag and God family and
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football and all that stuff.
But we don’t take into account
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like the Vietnam War was mostly
us just fighting a proxy war
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with communism, but then we got
directly involved and the whole
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country that barely had anything
to do with it got bombed into
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the goddamn Stone Age.
Fuck you Henry Kissinger.
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CIA has toppled governments just
because of either American
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interests or billionaire
interests.
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That’s what the word term Banana
Republic comes from, and it’s
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not displaced by khakis.
And when we look past all that,
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we know that’s we know this for
a fact.
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It’s written down.
It’s in the like, history is
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written by the winters.
It’s still got in the history
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books that we did this right.
And we just look past all that
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and just go to like, USAUSA,
we’re ever in a direct military
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conflict instead of thinking of
all the things our military does
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and espionage of our government
does.
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That’s really some shady shit.
Like America is a second and a
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half world country.
Yeah.
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Not just corrupt, but I think
second and a half world country
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is a good way to put it.
Another thing I bring up all the
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time is freedom of the press in
this country.
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Like we love to think that we
are just the freest nation on
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earth.
And I mention all the time we’re
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like 51 on the press freedom
index 51.
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There are 50 countries ahead of
us where the press is way more
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free than we are, but our press
is better at being spun by the
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government.
I think our government controls
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the media better than any
government.
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We’re good.
At controlling the media with
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misinformation instead of just
outright.
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If you go to North Korea or
Russia or China, if you just say
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the wrong thing or God forbid
you even get it close to the
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airwaves, they will just have
you killed or disappeared just
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outright 0 tolerance.
We don’t even have to do that.
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We get people to believe the
propaganda so deep they’ll fight
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each other over that shit.
Yeah.
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There’s so much detail to the
James Earl Ray case and his
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claims that he is innocent.
I will make this a do your own
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research moment for people.
There’s a book out there by
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William Pepper, who was James
Earl Ray’s lawyer.
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It’s called An Act of State and
it lays out the entire case
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against the FBI basically as
being the ones who did this.
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And the short version of the
theory is J Edgar Hoover, via
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his long time assistant Clyde
Tolson, delivered cash to
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underworld figures in Memphis
and one of those figures hired a
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Memphis police sharpshooter to
fire the fatal shots.
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That actually sounds more
believable to me than a lone
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gunman who, like George Wallace,
a bunch, decided to do it.
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You not.
To mention it, the lone gunman
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idea kind of sounds like the
same dude.
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Like this kind of sounds like
the dude that took a shot at
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Trump at his rally allegedly.
Like that seems it feels like
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they just ChatGPT that story
back through a few more filters.
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Yeah, that wouldn’t surprise me
at all.
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And so a lot of why the MLK
family thinks James Earl Ray is
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innocent is because of a man
named Lloyd Jowers.
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He owned a cafe that was on the
ground floor of the fucking flop
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house that James Earl Ray is
alleged to have shot from, which
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go watch your documentaries
about this.
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If nothing else, that window he
would have had to shoot out of.
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It would have been tough to get
a clean shot off because it
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didn’t open that far.
So he would have almost had to
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bend down but also point up to
hit Doctor King.
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So that part’s weird.
But Lloyd Jowers owned a diner
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on the ground floor of that flop
house where he was staying
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called, I think, Jim’s Cafe,
something like that.
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And for years and years and
years, he.
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Claimed he had nothing to do
with it, but people did suspect
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him for some reason.
And then in 1993, he went on the
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ABC News program Prime Time Live
and claimed he’d been paid
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$100,000 by a Memphis mobster
named Frank Liberto to help
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coordinate ML KS assassination.
And one important note that ties
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him and James Earl Ray together,
they both implicate a strange
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Cuban dude named Raul, who in
James Earl Ray’s case, he says
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he met this Raul guy in Montreal
and hoped he could help him get
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paperwork to get out of the
country.
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And in exchange, he decides to
work with this Raul guy, like
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smuggling guns.
And James Earl Ray’s contention
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has always been, I delivered a
gun to Raul in Memphis that day,
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but I did not shoot Doctor King.
Lloyd Jowers also says he was
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working with a guy named Raul
who paid him to hire the hit man
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to kill Doctor King.
And Lloyd Jowers is the one who
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says he hired the basically
local Memphis sheriff who was a
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black dude.
I thought that part was
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interesting.
Which, if that’s true, and I
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think I have his name, Sheriff
Earl Clark is the Memphis
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sheriff who was claimed to be
the shooter by Lloyd Jowers.
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And that would be an odd detail
for sure.
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But also think about Fred
Hampton.
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That’s how it happened to Fred
Hampton.
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It was a black informant.
Yeah.
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Did it?
I mean, did He’s not who did it?
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But he was responsible, yeah.
Exactly, might as well be who
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did it and he ended up killing
himself.
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I’m not sure if it was because
of the guilt of that or
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whatever, but he ended up
committing suicide, so it was.
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The night that news report aired
about it, like he immediately
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went out and I believe walked
into traffic.
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So probably because of that.
The nature of this show being
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conspiracy, if you were being
paid by the FBI and then it
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finally comes out that you were
the one, maybe the same way.
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I don’t want to keep red herring
everything, but yeah, it makes
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sense that you decide to UN
alive yourself right as the
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heat’s coming down before
anybody can ask you any undo
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questions.
Yeah, that is.
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About 99% of why I don’t believe
Jeffrey Epstein committed
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suicide.
I think Jeffrey Epstein was
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killed.
I wouldn’t be surprised if Sean
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Combs dies in jail.
You know what’s interesting
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about both of those situations?
It’s funny.
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No one’s going to miss these
guys when Sean Combs allegedly
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unlived himself soon.
It’s one of those things where,
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like, we knew of them, but we
didn’t know what they were
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really all about.
Jeffrey Epstein, to a much
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lesser extent, because he’s not
a celebrity, but he was famous
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for being around people, for
being this type of evil.
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And we’ve all heard rumors about
this shit in Hollywood and in
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the music industry and whatnot
for decades.
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And now it’s just like coming
home to roost.
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To your point, though, this
happens so often that we laugh
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about it.
Like I said, it’s funny.
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But you know, if Diddy dies and
that’s it’s not going to be
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funny because he’s dead, it’s
going to be funny because I told
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you so, you know what I mean?
And it’s going to be funny
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because, oh wow, look, that’s
all we really can do with these
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type of things in America,
because we’ll never really know
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the truth and.
I don’t know if this was the
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case with Diddy, but it seems
like maybe, but definitely with
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Jeffrey Epstein.
It wasn’t just that he was a
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pedophile.
He’s holding these huge parties
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and then gathering blackmail
evidence when people are also
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being pedophiles at his party.
And that to me implies that
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you’re working for a government.
Probably because it’s one thing
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to blackmail powerful people.
It’s another to do it if you
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don’t have any extra backing.
Who the fuck is Jeffrey Epstein
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to Someone else who is also very
rich?
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But if he’s also very rich and
is like, also I’m doing this for
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Israel or I’m doing this for the
CIA, so you can try to push
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back, but that’s not going to
work.
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And I mean, if that’s the case,
fucking yeah, you’re a fed.
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You deserve whatever the fuck
you get on top of being a
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pedophile.
You’re a fedophile.
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That’s worse.
You’re a government pedophile.
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This is a.
Shot in the dark.
434
00:24:39,800 –> 00:24:41,800
Did you ever play any Grand
Theft Auto game?
435
00:24:41,960 –> 00:24:43,760
A little bit.
It never played through the
436
00:24:43,760 –> 00:24:45,960
story mode.
No, no, no.
437
00:24:45,960 –> 00:24:48,720
OK.
So whether it’s Grand Theft Auto
438
00:24:48,720 –> 00:24:54,840
3, San Andreas 4-5, at some
point you go from being a
439
00:24:54,840 –> 00:24:59,320
gangster that works, it’s just
working local and then you go up
440
00:24:59,320 –> 00:25:01,280
a little more and now you’re
like the bigger part of the
441
00:25:01,280 –> 00:25:03,520
city.
And then like the, But when you
442
00:25:03,520 –> 00:25:07,440
get to about 3/4 through the
game, that’s when you either
443
00:25:07,440 –> 00:25:12,600
start working with the police,
the some federal agency or both.
444
00:25:12,600 –> 00:25:16,240
And by the end of the game, you
got to do this crazy high stakes
445
00:25:16,280 –> 00:25:19,200
action set piece that involves
like stealing from like the
446
00:25:19,200 –> 00:25:21,920
Federal Reserve or blowing up
like the federal agency or
447
00:25:21,920 –> 00:25:24,600
something like that.
And I always say there’s a lot
448
00:25:24,600 –> 00:25:27,160
of truth and fiction.
And the reason why that trope
449
00:25:27,160 –> 00:25:29,960
works and has been used so many
times in the Grand Theft Auto
450
00:25:29,960 –> 00:25:33,760
game is because the further up
you go in crime, you you usually
451
00:25:33,760 –> 00:25:36,040
hit like Acia or something.
Oh yeah.
452
00:25:36,200 –> 00:25:39,400
Yeah, that does make sense.
And I need to play more Grand
453
00:25:39,400 –> 00:25:40,480
Theft Auto.
That sounds funny.
454
00:25:41,520 –> 00:25:44,840
It’s always great, especially
when you live in LA, is the most
455
00:25:44,840 –> 00:25:46,600
cathartic way to blow off from
steam.
456
00:25:47,840 –> 00:25:49,960
Like it’s the city they’ve
modeled.
457
00:25:49,960 –> 00:25:52,160
So yeah, I can finally blow up
people on the 405.
458
00:25:52,320 –> 00:25:53,600
Like, oh.
Yeah, this is what it was like
459
00:25:53,600 –> 00:25:57,440
driving home today.
And helicopters and gunshots and
460
00:25:57,440 –> 00:25:59,920
everything and.
So it’s important to note here,
461
00:25:59,920 –> 00:26:03,640
Lloyd Jowers, girlfriend at the
time, also came forward at one
462
00:26:03,640 –> 00:26:07,440
point and said she saw him
disassembling a rifle and hiding
463
00:26:07,440 –> 00:26:10,000
it under the counter at his
diner shortly after the
464
00:26:10,000 –> 00:26:13,400
shooting.
And with Lloyd Jowers, again, I
465
00:26:13,400 –> 00:26:16,800
think Occam’s razor, why would
he lie about this?
466
00:26:16,960 –> 00:26:21,520
Why after all these years would
you come out and say, oh, yeah,
467
00:26:21,520 –> 00:26:25,600
actually, I was involved in the
murder of Doctor Martin Luther
468
00:26:25,600 –> 00:26:26,560
King?
Because here’s the thing,
469
00:26:26,800 –> 00:26:28,760
There’s no statute of
limitations on murder.
470
00:26:29,040 –> 00:26:32,520
He’s taking a legitimate risk by
doing this.
471
00:26:32,720 –> 00:26:38,600
And so I don’t understand why he
would lie about this, which has
472
00:26:38,920 –> 00:26:41,280
been kind of the argument is,
Oh, well, he’s just lying.
473
00:26:41,720 –> 00:26:43,120
It’s like, yeah, I don’t know.
Yeah.
474
00:26:43,120 –> 00:26:46,320
Like, it’s keep doing this, but
it’s similar to the guy that
475
00:26:46,320 –> 00:26:48,560
killed Tupac.
Why would you come out 20 years
476
00:26:48,560 –> 00:26:50,200
later and do that?
There’s no statute of
477
00:26:50,200 –> 00:26:53,840
limitations on murder, and the
clout you get is just going to
478
00:26:53,840 –> 00:26:56,960
put you in prison.
Are you coming clean because
479
00:26:56,960 –> 00:26:58,240
you’re trying to make money off
this?
480
00:26:58,240 –> 00:27:00,040
Because if so, I don’t see the
angle.
481
00:27:00,280 –> 00:27:03,160
And if you’re coming clean just
because you got away with it,
482
00:27:03,160 –> 00:27:04,680
then pursue it.
Yeah.
483
00:27:04,920 –> 00:27:10,640
I think his problem was he
trusted the police because that
484
00:27:10,640 –> 00:27:14,480
murder happened in Las Vegas and
at one point he didn’t interview
485
00:27:14,480 –> 00:27:18,400
with the LAPD and they were
like, yeah, nothing You say
486
00:27:18,560 –> 00:27:21,560
we’re not going to prosecute you
over anything you say wasn’t.
487
00:27:21,800 –> 00:27:24,720
He a cop too.
No, Dwayne Davis was.
488
00:27:24,800 –> 00:27:27,640
Well, it depends on which
version of events you’re talking
489
00:27:27,640 –> 00:27:29,520
about, but Oh yeah, yeah, I’m
talking.
490
00:27:29,560 –> 00:27:31,120
Yeah, I’m sorry.
I’m talking about the rapper.
491
00:27:31,560 –> 00:27:36,320
Notorious BIG is the one who was
probably murdered by LAPD.
492
00:27:36,480 –> 00:27:38,400
Gotcha.
Tupac was probably killed by
493
00:27:38,800 –> 00:27:41,920
Diddy.
That’s what makes it funny.
494
00:27:41,920 –> 00:27:43,760
You killed Tupac on top of all
this.
495
00:27:43,880 –> 00:27:45,480
Oh, I can’t wait to.
See you get your commands.
496
00:27:46,880 –> 00:27:50,760
The guy who killed Tupac and
then started going on fucking
497
00:27:50,760 –> 00:27:54,040
podcasts and talking about it.
The reason he started doing that
498
00:27:54,040 –> 00:27:57,080
is he had this meeting with the
LAPD and they were like, all
499
00:27:57,080 –> 00:28:01,240
right, tell us everything you
know, and we won’t prosecute you
500
00:28:01,240 –> 00:28:03,120
for it.
And dude, you committed that
501
00:28:03,280 –> 00:28:05,840
crime in Las Vegas.
The LAPD doesn’t have any
502
00:28:05,840 –> 00:28:10,360
fucking jurisdiction over that.
So he got this promise from the
503
00:28:10,360 –> 00:28:14,000
LAPD and was like, cool, I’m
going to go on YouTube and talk
504
00:28:14,000 –> 00:28:16,480
about killing Tupac in Las
Vegas.
505
00:28:16,480 –> 00:28:18,880
PD was like, wait, what?
That’s interesting.
506
00:28:19,080 –> 00:28:20,240
Yeah, go.
On.
507
00:28:21,600 –> 00:28:24,720
Yeah, he was just dumb.
He took the cops word for it.
508
00:28:24,920 –> 00:28:26,320
Don’t.
Ever trust the police?
509
00:28:26,320 –> 00:28:29,320
That’s half the reason the
lawyers have jobs.
510
00:28:29,560 –> 00:28:33,000
So.
The trial itself, it lasted 4
511
00:28:33,000 –> 00:28:35,960
weeks.
It took the jury one hour to
512
00:28:36,120 –> 00:28:40,840
decide that Lloyd Jowers and
government agencies did conspire
513
00:28:41,000 –> 00:28:43,320
to kill Doctor Martin Luther
King Junior.
514
00:28:43,480 –> 00:28:45,920
I’ll link to a transcript of the
trial.
515
00:28:45,920 –> 00:28:49,880
It’s very involved.
We don’t have time to go into
516
00:28:49,920 –> 00:28:51,960
all the details.
The verdict is the more
517
00:28:52,080 –> 00:28:56,200
important part.
But if you are a subscriber, you
518
00:28:56,200 –> 00:29:01,120
can listen to last week’s bonus
episode where me and John Lewis
519
00:29:01,120 –> 00:29:06,640
cover interesting part of this
story after Lloyd Jowers gave
520
00:29:06,640 –> 00:29:12,160
that interview.
In 1993, HBO held a mock trial
521
00:29:12,360 –> 00:29:16,440
of James Earl Ray.
And when I say mock trial, it
522
00:29:16,440 –> 00:29:19,480
was actual lawyers.
It was an actual judge.
523
00:29:19,480 –> 00:29:23,400
I’ll be a retired judge.
They selected a jury the way
524
00:29:23,440 –> 00:29:26,240
those lawyers would have
selected the jury in the case.
525
00:29:26,560 –> 00:29:30,440
The only thing that wasn’t legit
was it was a mock trial.
526
00:29:30,440 –> 00:29:34,720
But otherwise it was very
similar to what a trial of James
527
00:29:34,720 –> 00:29:36,720
Earl Ray would have looked like.
Well, like a.
528
00:29:36,720 –> 00:29:40,480
Trial stimulation, yeah.
And they even questioned James
529
00:29:40,480 –> 00:29:44,440
Earl Ray from his prison cell.
So it’s interesting.
530
00:29:44,520 –> 00:29:48,280
It’s I don’t want to give it
away, but listen to last week’s
531
00:29:48,280 –> 00:29:52,920
episode if you want more details
about this trial and the HBO
532
00:29:53,040 –> 00:29:57,280
mock trial.
But the verdict, it was a civil
533
00:29:57,280 –> 00:30:01,600
suit and the jury only awarded
the King family $100.
534
00:30:01,840 –> 00:30:05,200
But that’s because that’s all
the family was requesting.
535
00:30:05,320 –> 00:30:08,040
They didn’t want it to look like
they were suing because of
536
00:30:08,040 –> 00:30:10,600
money, which we’ll talk about it
more later.
537
00:30:10,600 –> 00:30:12,280
But I feel like that was a
mistake.
538
00:30:12,600 –> 00:30:17,200
I do too, because one of the
pushbacks you get when people
539
00:30:17,200 –> 00:30:21,520
are debunking the idea that the
government was found responsible
540
00:30:21,680 –> 00:30:24,320
is, oh, well, they barely
defended themselves because
541
00:30:24,320 –> 00:30:27,360
there was nothing really on the
line.
542
00:30:27,600 –> 00:30:30,600
And did they barely defend
themselves or could they not
543
00:30:30,720 –> 00:30:34,160
defend themselves?
So they just decided to barely
544
00:30:34,320 –> 00:30:38,040
defend themselves instead
because there was never going to
545
00:30:38,040 –> 00:30:41,840
be any, especially with $100 on
the line.
546
00:30:42,040 –> 00:30:45,600
There was nothing really
incentivizing the government to
547
00:30:45,600 –> 00:30:47,360
tell the truth here.
We’re going to talk about
548
00:30:47,360 –> 00:30:50,800
another trial that’s coming up
soon where it might be a
549
00:30:50,800 –> 00:30:53,440
different story.
But yeah, I think the $100 was a
550
00:30:53,440 –> 00:30:55,520
mistake, I think.
It was a mistake just on a
551
00:30:55,520 –> 00:30:58,520
simple fact that you’re not,
you’re never going to get the
552
00:30:58,520 –> 00:31:01,880
money that you’re that the
Martin Luther King Junior estate
553
00:31:01,880 –> 00:31:06,400
is truly owed for the amount of
times they have plagiarized his
554
00:31:06,600 –> 00:31:10,680
speech, the amount of time they
use him, use his name, image and
555
00:31:10,680 –> 00:31:13,440
likeness.
Martin Luther King junior today
556
00:31:13,960 –> 00:31:17,800
was an NCAA Football player.
He would be worth hundreds of
557
00:31:17,800 –> 00:31:19,120
millions of dollars.
Yeah.
558
00:31:19,480 –> 00:31:22,880
So for that reason alone, they
should have gotten any money
559
00:31:22,880 –> 00:31:26,240
from in the US government.
Like, it’s not like I understand
560
00:31:26,240 –> 00:31:28,880
the principle of the thing and
you just want justice because
561
00:31:28,880 –> 00:31:30,400
that’s what Martin Luther King
is all about.
562
00:31:30,760 –> 00:31:34,280
But it’s also justice from a
business standpoint.
563
00:31:34,720 –> 00:31:37,280
Honestly, for the simple fact,
and I’m going to talk about my
564
00:31:37,280 –> 00:31:39,640
own people for a second.
The fact that every Martin
565
00:31:39,640 –> 00:31:43,880
Luther King Day, I see these
fucking club Flyers that have
566
00:31:44,280 –> 00:31:48,040
Martin Luther King with Faye and
align through it, the way that
567
00:31:48,040 –> 00:31:51,400
we’ve just been able to
bastardize this man’s image is
568
00:31:51,400 –> 00:31:54,240
like he the family should get
something for all this shit.
569
00:31:54,360 –> 00:31:57,120
Yeah.
That reminds me of the Marilyn
570
00:31:57,120 –> 00:31:59,840
Monroe shirts you see all the
time where she’ll have, like a
571
00:32:00,280 –> 00:32:03,160
bunch of tattoos and she’s
holding a soccer ball with a
572
00:32:03,480 –> 00:32:05,280
flag behind her.
Yeah.
573
00:32:05,280 –> 00:32:07,640
Like she’s like on the back of a
harlot, like she’s on the back
574
00:32:07,640 –> 00:32:09,400
of a Kawasaki.
And it’s like those didn’t even
575
00:32:09,400 –> 00:32:11,800
exist when she was alive.
What are you talking about?
576
00:32:12,120 –> 00:32:14,040
Yeah.
She’s wearing a Niners jersey
577
00:32:14,040 –> 00:32:17,600
and holding a gun like that is
not her image at all.
578
00:32:17,600 –> 00:32:20,160
That would be a bottle of pills
in her hand, not a gun.
579
00:32:20,320 –> 00:32:23,960
Damn, I’m pretty sure I’ve dated
a girl that’s had a Marilyn
580
00:32:24,080 –> 00:32:25,360
Monroe.
No, I’m certain I’ve dated a
581
00:32:25,360 –> 00:32:27,240
girl that had a Marilyn Monroe
tattoo.
582
00:32:27,400 –> 00:32:29,320
But she had like gold grill in
her smile.
583
00:32:29,480 –> 00:32:30,800
I like that.
Classy.
584
00:32:30,960 –> 00:32:32,600
Like she was a classy lady by
the way.
585
00:32:32,880 –> 00:32:35,640
Wait.
Did the girl have the gold grill
586
00:32:35,640 –> 00:32:39,640
or did the Marilyn Monroe tattoo
have the gold grill?
587
00:32:39,760 –> 00:32:42,880
Yes.
Like she wasn’t wearing it when
588
00:32:42,880 –> 00:32:49,160
I met her but she did possess 1.
And so, yeah, like I said, there
589
00:32:49,160 –> 00:32:52,680
were four weeks of testimony.
It took one hour for the jury to
590
00:32:52,680 –> 00:32:56,200
deliberate and find that Lloyd
Jowers as well as, quote,
591
00:32:56,240 –> 00:33:00,360
others, including governmental
agencies, were responsible for a
592
00:33:00,360 –> 00:33:05,560
conspiracy to assassinate MLK.
And at the time of the verdict
593
00:33:05,560 –> 00:33:09,960
in 1999, Dexter King, ML KS
youngest son, said, quote, this
594
00:33:09,960 –> 00:33:12,320
is vindication for us, End
Quote.
595
00:33:12,480 –> 00:33:16,680
And that he hoped history books
would be rewritten to encounter
596
00:33:17,000 –> 00:33:19,080
this version of his father’s
murder.
597
00:33:20,160 –> 00:33:22,440
They wouldn’t have done that if
it was in the judgment.
598
00:33:22,520 –> 00:33:26,760
That is like the US government
or any this is big bank take
599
00:33:26,760 –> 00:33:29,880
little bank one O 1.
At any point in time, when you
600
00:33:29,880 –> 00:33:34,360
win a case against a large
entity or a corporation or, or
601
00:33:34,920 –> 00:33:38,000
or a government, the first thing
they make sure that they put
602
00:33:38,000 –> 00:33:40,400
into that contract that they’re
paying you is that they don’t
603
00:33:40,400 –> 00:33:43,920
have to admit to any liability
to they don’t have, they don’t
604
00:33:43,920 –> 00:33:45,760
owe you an apology.
They don’t have to admit any
605
00:33:45,760 –> 00:33:47,240
wrongdoing.
Doesn’t even matter.
606
00:33:47,240 –> 00:33:50,200
Like they were found guilty, but
they’re not sorry that that’s
607
00:33:50,200 –> 00:33:52,680
the first thing we want to say.
So if we’re thinking they’re
608
00:33:52,680 –> 00:33:55,280
going to rewrite the history
books to put in, oh, Martin
609
00:33:55,280 –> 00:33:56,880
Luther King was assassinated by
the government.
610
00:33:57,000 –> 00:34:00,920
Sorry about that.
No, they like they’re they’re we
611
00:34:00,920 –> 00:34:04,840
have states that have taken
black history off the history
612
00:34:04,840 –> 00:34:07,720
books and you’re and you want
them to put something in.
613
00:34:07,960 –> 00:34:08,520
Yeah.
Good luck.
614
00:34:08,800 –> 00:34:12,760
They haven’t even updated the
Wikipedia page to say that James
615
00:34:12,840 –> 00:34:16,320
Wright didn’t do it, much less
fucking history books.
616
00:34:17,159 –> 00:34:21,600
I’ve mentioned a bunch of times
that Snopes wrote an article
617
00:34:21,639 –> 00:34:26,800
debunking the idea that the
government was found responsible
618
00:34:26,800 –> 00:34:31,560
for this, and it is one of my
least favorite articles on the
619
00:34:31,560 –> 00:34:33,760
Internet.
I’m glad I was able to find it
620
00:34:33,840 –> 00:34:37,080
again.
My problem with their debunking
621
00:34:37,239 –> 00:34:41,159
speaks to something I say about
the media all the time, which is
622
00:34:41,159 –> 00:34:45,480
that they just inherently trust
the government.
623
00:34:45,639 –> 00:34:49,920
If someone says the government
did something, so many times the
624
00:34:49,920 –> 00:34:52,639
media will reach out to the
government and go, did you do
625
00:34:52,639 –> 00:34:53,960
this thing that people are
saying?
626
00:34:53,960 –> 00:34:57,480
And when the government says no,
they label it a conspiracy
627
00:34:57,480 –> 00:34:59,400
theory.
That’s not journalism.
628
00:34:59,400 –> 00:35:02,280
You’re helping the government
get away with shit.
629
00:35:02,400 –> 00:35:07,560
And this Snopes article, to me
is just such a representative
630
00:35:07,640 –> 00:35:14,400
example of that because all they
refer to in debunking this is
631
00:35:14,680 –> 00:35:18,360
this Department of Justice
investigation that was done
632
00:35:18,360 –> 00:35:22,840
after this verdict came out,
where, surprise, the government
633
00:35:22,840 –> 00:35:25,480
looked into it and found that
none of these claims were
634
00:35:25,480 –> 00:35:29,240
credible and that James Earl Ray
acted alone and was the only
635
00:35:29,240 –> 00:35:31,320
shooter.
And well, yeah, no shit.
636
00:35:31,480 –> 00:35:33,200
Like, no shit they would say
that.
637
00:35:33,320 –> 00:35:38,880
And I again, I know a lot of
times it’s more like Democrats
638
00:35:38,880 –> 00:35:43,560
and liberal types who are so
hesitant to believe a theory
639
00:35:43,560 –> 00:35:46,840
like this.
But at the same time, we’ll
640
00:35:46,840 –> 00:35:50,840
fucking howl when there’s a
police shooting and the police
641
00:35:50,840 –> 00:35:53,360
are like, don’t worry, we’re
going to investigate.
642
00:35:53,520 –> 00:35:55,680
And no, you don’t get to
investigate.
643
00:35:55,920 –> 00:36:00,040
You did it.
And it’s the same thing here.
644
00:36:00,040 –> 00:36:04,080
But so many people in this case
are like, see, the government
645
00:36:04,080 –> 00:36:06,320
looked into it and decided they
didn’t do it.
646
00:36:06,560 –> 00:36:08,840
Of course they decided they
didn’t do it.
647
00:36:08,960 –> 00:36:11,240
Don’t be dumb.
Real quick to that point about
648
00:36:11,240 –> 00:36:13,600
the police investigating the
police shooting, the one time
649
00:36:13,600 –> 00:36:18,160
I’ve seen the police shooting go
the way that the justice system
650
00:36:18,320 –> 00:36:23,560
should is when in Minnesota when
that I think he was Ethiopian or
651
00:36:23,560 –> 00:36:26,200
Kenyan or something.
That was a Ethiopian immigrant
652
00:36:26,440 –> 00:36:29,080
police officer.
Black man killed a white woman
653
00:36:29,080 –> 00:36:32,480
from Australia, and they threw
that dude under the jail within
654
00:36:32,480 –> 00:36:35,040
a month.
Yeah, they were convicted of
655
00:36:35,040 –> 00:36:37,280
murder.
Wrongful or not murder.
656
00:36:37,280 –> 00:36:40,240
It was like, like the worst kind
of manslaughter possible.
657
00:36:40,240 –> 00:36:44,160
Yeah, like 15 years, no backing
from the police union and the
658
00:36:44,160 –> 00:36:46,760
city, like, immediately gave
that woman’s family like $25
659
00:36:46,760 –> 00:36:48,920
million.
And I was like, huh, Yeah.
660
00:36:49,720 –> 00:36:52,840
Wow, Wow, how fast that works.
Well, they.
661
00:36:52,840 –> 00:36:55,640
Want white people to think
they’re still safe from the
662
00:36:55,640 –> 00:36:58,240
police?
Obviously, thank you for saying.
663
00:36:58,240 –> 00:37:03,640
The part that I could, yeah.
Snopes throughout this whole
664
00:37:03,640 –> 00:37:06,920
thing, they’re just citing this
department, which we’ll link to
665
00:37:06,920 –> 00:37:09,200
the Department of Justice
investigation too.
666
00:37:09,360 –> 00:37:14,120
And I don’t know why anyone
would consider that journalism
667
00:37:14,280 –> 00:37:17,600
or why anyone would look at this
and go, oh, yeah, well, Snopes
668
00:37:17,600 –> 00:37:20,640
said they didn’t do it, so of
course they didn’t do it.
669
00:37:20,760 –> 00:37:24,760
And another really frustrating
thing about their article is we
670
00:37:24,760 –> 00:37:28,840
mentioned that $100 in damages
before they bring that up in
671
00:37:28,840 –> 00:37:32,720
this Snopes article as if to
say, oh, well, that’s all the
672
00:37:32,920 –> 00:37:37,880
jury gave them was $100.00.
So this paltry award and you
673
00:37:37,880 –> 00:37:39,800
think this lawsuit means
something?
674
00:37:39,960 –> 00:37:42,480
And meanwhile, I already
mentioned it’s what the King
675
00:37:42,480 –> 00:37:47,320
family asked for was $100.
It’s not like Trump versus the
676
00:37:47,320 –> 00:37:51,720
NFL, where he sued the NFL and
won, but the jury was like,
677
00:37:51,800 –> 00:37:55,400
we’re going to give you a dollar
because they hate you and this
678
00:37:55,400 –> 00:37:57,000
is stupid.
This is.
679
00:37:57,000 –> 00:37:59,040
Different.
They were just trying to like
680
00:37:59,160 –> 00:38:01,960
make a point by not asking for
money.
681
00:38:02,120 –> 00:38:05,920
And I think the way history
looks back on it now is, oh,
682
00:38:05,920 –> 00:38:07,920
$100.
It must have been nothing.
683
00:38:07,960 –> 00:38:09,120
There must have been nothing to
it.
684
00:38:09,360 –> 00:38:12,800
And Nope, that’s not correct.
The only people who think
685
00:38:12,800 –> 00:38:16,520
there’s nothing to this are
Snopes and the government that
686
00:38:16,520 –> 00:38:19,000
was found liable for doing this
My.
687
00:38:19,080 –> 00:38:22,400
My comedian brain wants to
think, wants to make this this
688
00:38:22,400 –> 00:38:27,160
trial in like 1970 where $100
was like 10 grand.
689
00:38:28,880 –> 00:38:32,720
But even then it’s not enough.
So yeah, they sued for $100 in
690
00:38:32,760 –> 00:38:33,920
1922.
What else?
691
00:38:33,920 –> 00:38:38,520
Enough to buy a state.
Yeah, on our episode last week,
692
00:38:38,520 –> 00:38:43,720
we talked about this MK Ultra
psychiatrist who the CIA gave
693
00:38:43,720 –> 00:38:48,640
him $60,000 for his work that
spanned a bunch of years.
694
00:38:49,000 –> 00:38:54,240
Well, that doesn’t sound like
much in today’s money, $690,000.
695
00:38:54,600 –> 00:38:56,680
Oh yeah, that is.
That’s quite, quite a that’s
696
00:38:56,720 –> 00:38:58,440
pretty good.
But in today’s money, you would
697
00:38:58,440 –> 00:39:00,800
still be getting like millions
of dollars for a for a
698
00:39:00,800 –> 00:39:02,960
conspiracy theory.
Oh yeah, you got to break me
699
00:39:02,960 –> 00:39:04,800
off, bro.
Oh yeah. 8.
700
00:39:04,840 –> 00:39:06,560
Figures 8.
Figures no less.
701
00:39:07,800 –> 00:39:13,320
But that $100 might have made
this case seem a little less
702
00:39:13,320 –> 00:39:15,120
legitimate in the eyes of
people.
703
00:39:15,200 –> 00:39:17,880
But now here comes the Malcolm X
family lawsuit.
704
00:39:17,920 –> 00:39:23,360
I am super interested to see how
this goes because it was filed
705
00:39:23,360 –> 00:39:26,760
last year and it seems like
there hasn’t been a trial yet.
706
00:39:26,760 –> 00:39:30,520
So there’s not a ton of
information about it other than
707
00:39:30,600 –> 00:39:36,400
that the family is seeking $100
million from the government.
708
00:39:36,560 –> 00:39:41,000
And this one is super
interesting because if people
709
00:39:41,000 –> 00:39:44,920
haven’t been following the news,
two of the three men who were
710
00:39:44,920 –> 00:39:49,320
convicted of killing Malcolm X
have been exonerated and
711
00:39:49,560 –> 00:39:52,480
released.
There was the and the one who
712
00:39:52,480 –> 00:39:56,200
hasn’t been exonerated was
literally like caught with a gun
713
00:39:56,200 –> 00:39:59,400
in his hand and beat by a crowd
of people at the scene.
714
00:39:59,720 –> 00:40:03,760
So he confessed, but also when
he confessed, he was like those
715
00:40:03,760 –> 00:40:06,320
two other dudes you arrested.
That’s not who did it.
716
00:40:06,640 –> 00:40:08,960
Those are, I had help, but
that’s not who it was.
717
00:40:09,160 –> 00:40:14,200
And all these years later, like
immediately after he said that,
718
00:40:14,200 –> 00:40:16,560
we released them 40 years later
or so.
719
00:40:16,800 –> 00:40:20,560
And that means the other
involved parties are either
720
00:40:20,560 –> 00:40:24,440
still alive or lived out the
rest of their lives, never
721
00:40:24,440 –> 00:40:27,040
having been taken to task for
what they did.
722
00:40:27,200 –> 00:40:29,200
But.
Very important detail.
723
00:40:29,200 –> 00:40:32,840
And the FBI themselves are the
ones who have acknowledged this.
724
00:40:33,040 –> 00:40:37,960
There were 10 FBI agents in the
room when Malcolm X was killed.
725
00:40:38,120 –> 00:40:39,400
What?
Yeah.
726
00:40:39,560 –> 00:40:43,480
Not just that, but the venue
where he was at.
727
00:40:43,600 –> 00:40:47,920
Again, this is the 1960s and
this venue where he was at was
728
00:40:47,920 –> 00:40:53,880
known to hold events by black
progressives very regularly, so
729
00:40:54,040 –> 00:40:57,840
you won’t be surprised at all to
know it was normally swimming
730
00:40:57,840 –> 00:41:01,400
with fucking police.
They’re normally police all
731
00:41:01,400 –> 00:41:04,000
around that building.
The day Malcolm X was killed,
732
00:41:04,000 –> 00:41:06,120
there were two cops on the roof
and that’s it.
733
00:41:06,240 –> 00:41:08,920
There were none at the door,
there were none inside, there
734
00:41:08,920 –> 00:41:13,520
were none patrolling.
But there were 10 FBI agents in
735
00:41:13,680 –> 00:41:16,960
the room.
Fucking Elijah Muhammad’s like
736
00:41:16,960 –> 00:41:20,960
second in command was an FBI
informant.
737
00:41:22,120 –> 00:41:25,480
Yeah.
So this lawsuit is going to be
738
00:41:25,480 –> 00:41:30,560
really fucking interesting, and
it’s not 1999 anymore.
739
00:41:30,560 –> 00:41:33,720
I think if this goes not the
government’s way, we’re going to
740
00:41:33,720 –> 00:41:38,200
hear a fucking lot about it and
I hope that would be good, that
741
00:41:38,200 –> 00:41:39,720
is.
Some crazy details you just
742
00:41:39,720 –> 00:41:42,760
dropped on me because what I
know about Martin Luther UPS
743
00:41:42,760 –> 00:41:46,280
yet, but Malcolm X assassination
was it it looked like it was the
744
00:41:46,280 –> 00:41:49,200
Nation of Islam.
But if you tell me it’s FBI, I
745
00:41:49,240 –> 00:41:52,400
totally believe it.
You say there’s 10 agents in the
746
00:41:52,400 –> 00:41:54,680
room when he died and that’s
confirmable.
747
00:41:54,680 –> 00:41:56,760
Then they then that was an
assassination.
748
00:41:56,760 –> 00:41:59,560
Like they, they sanctioned it
because they were there and they
749
00:41:59,560 –> 00:42:04,040
did nothing to stop it, right?
And even if no one in the FBI
750
00:42:04,040 –> 00:42:09,520
pulled the trigger, I think the
FBI does the same thing to
751
00:42:09,720 –> 00:42:15,360
social justice and progressive
movements that the CIA does in
752
00:42:15,480 –> 00:42:19,640
other countries where instead of
being directly responsible for
753
00:42:19,640 –> 00:42:23,280
what happens, they’ll just send
someone in pretending to be part
754
00:42:23,280 –> 00:42:26,680
of that group who just starts
putting shit in people’s ears
755
00:42:26,880 –> 00:42:30,120
about what they might want to
consider doing.
756
00:42:30,160 –> 00:42:34,160
And in other countries, it’s the
CIA being like, hey, you sure
757
00:42:34,160 –> 00:42:36,600
you don’t want to topple this
government you’re living under?
758
00:42:36,840 –> 00:42:38,520
We got people.
We can tell you how to do it.
759
00:42:38,520 –> 00:42:40,440
We don’t want to do it.
But if you want to do it, we’ll
760
00:42:40,440 –> 00:42:42,920
help you do it.
And with the FBI, all it would
761
00:42:42,920 –> 00:42:47,120
have taken was them getting
someone in the Nation of Islam
762
00:42:47,360 –> 00:42:50,920
to just keep suggesting, you
know, Malcolm X is becoming a
763
00:42:51,160 –> 00:42:54,440
bit of a problem.
And he was within the Nation of
764
00:42:54,440 –> 00:42:57,440
Islam.
Like there was some conflict
765
00:42:57,440 –> 00:43:01,200
between him and Elijah Muhammad,
so it wouldn’t have been hard
766
00:43:01,200 –> 00:43:05,760
for the FBI to just stoke those
kind of tensions to the point
767
00:43:05,760 –> 00:43:08,880
that someone fucking shot
Malcolm X, you said.
768
00:43:08,880 –> 00:43:12,080
Yourself that that Elijah
Muhammad’s second in command was
769
00:43:12,080 –> 00:43:14,640
an informant.
So they already it’s that’s all
770
00:43:14,640 –> 00:43:16,600
I really need to know.
Like they have they’re that high
771
00:43:16,600 –> 00:43:18,000
up.
Then what else is the of course
772
00:43:18,000 –> 00:43:19,560
they could do that.
Maybe that’s the guy that was
773
00:43:19,560 –> 00:43:20,440
saying it.
Yeah.
774
00:43:20,600 –> 00:43:24,520
Yeah, that wouldn’t surprise me.
And so, yeah, I’m fascinated to
775
00:43:24,520 –> 00:43:29,520
see how this trial goes.
If it goes to trial, which it
776
00:43:29,520 –> 00:43:32,880
absolutely should, I don’t know
how it can’t, now that two
777
00:43:32,880 –> 00:43:35,760
innocent men have been
exonerated in this killing,
778
00:43:35,760 –> 00:43:38,520
fucking fire it back up.
Let’s see who actually did it.
779
00:43:38,600 –> 00:43:41,160
Who you going to frame next?
Interested to see.
780
00:43:41,280 –> 00:43:43,120
I can see.
How I could go, not go to court.
781
00:43:43,120 –> 00:43:46,320
I can see like how they can
settle for like 75,000,000 out
782
00:43:46,320 –> 00:43:49,680
of court because like we said
earlier in this episode, we, the
783
00:43:49,680 –> 00:43:53,800
Pentagon lost $5 trillion just,
you know, in the couch cushion
784
00:43:53,800 –> 00:43:55,800
somewhere.
Hey, I never know, You know,
785
00:43:56,000 –> 00:43:58,080
they could have fallen off a
truck or something like that.
786
00:43:58,600 –> 00:44:01,480
So, like, it wouldn’t be hard
for them to just.
787
00:44:01,640 –> 00:44:04,720
If it keeps them from asking a
lot of difficult questions, I
788
00:44:04,720 –> 00:44:06,800
can see them just paying that
money out and be like, fuck it.
789
00:44:06,800 –> 00:44:09,160
The same way Diddy was Like, how
much you want 50 million?
790
00:44:09,160 –> 00:44:09,880
Give it to her.
Fuck it.
791
00:44:09,880 –> 00:44:11,600
Let’s avoid this as long as we
can.
792
00:44:11,760 –> 00:44:13,160
Yeah.
And especially with the
793
00:44:13,160 –> 00:44:17,440
government, that’s always a sign
that something is up because
794
00:44:17,440 –> 00:44:20,480
otherwise the government will
fight the shit out of people who
795
00:44:20,480 –> 00:44:24,040
say they’re doing wrong.
Yeah, a good example is there’s
796
00:44:24,040 –> 00:44:27,880
that Netflix documentary
Wormwood, which is about CIA
797
00:44:27,880 –> 00:44:33,000
agent Frank Olson, who the
official story is still that the
798
00:44:33,000 –> 00:44:37,400
CIA gave him too much LSD and
oops, he went crazy and jumped
799
00:44:37,400 –> 00:44:40,920
out of window.
It seems pretty likely that the
800
00:44:40,920 –> 00:44:44,200
CIA murdered him.
He did not jump out of window.
801
00:44:44,400 –> 00:44:48,680
And it wasn’t, yes, they gave
him too much acid, but the acid
802
00:44:48,680 –> 00:44:50,800
didn’t make him crazy.
It gave him a conscience.
803
00:44:51,000 –> 00:44:55,120
And what they suggest in that
documentary is Frank Olson was
804
00:44:55,120 –> 00:44:58,800
going to go public and tell
people that we used chemical
805
00:44:58,800 –> 00:45:01,840
weapons in Korea during the
Korean War.
806
00:45:01,960 –> 00:45:05,360
And that whole thing where if
you watch the documentary, they,
807
00:45:05,360 –> 00:45:08,760
like, sequester him for a few
days, take him away from his
808
00:45:08,760 –> 00:45:12,800
wife, and it’s like they’re just
trying to talk to him and trying
809
00:45:12,960 –> 00:45:16,200
to get him to change his mind.
And it seems like that’s what
810
00:45:16,200 –> 00:45:17,840
was happening.
They were like, all right, so
811
00:45:17,840 –> 00:45:20,760
you’re not actually going to say
that We used chemical weapons.
812
00:45:21,040 –> 00:45:25,080
And it seems like he, for the
most part, was like, yeah, I am.
813
00:45:25,280 –> 00:45:27,760
And they fucking tossed him out
a window over it.
814
00:45:28,080 –> 00:45:32,040
And what’s interesting about
that is when his family started
815
00:45:32,240 –> 00:45:35,760
complaining and asking
questions, the CIA immediately
816
00:45:35,760 –> 00:45:38,480
was like, yeah, you’re right.
We gave him too much LSD and he
817
00:45:38,480 –> 00:45:41,480
jumped out a window.
Got us, You got us.
818
00:45:41,720 –> 00:45:43,240
Wait a minute.
Wait, wait, wait.
819
00:45:43,240 –> 00:45:47,400
Comrade, you’re telling me man
was agent of CIA, those
820
00:45:47,800 –> 00:45:51,560
experiments for CIA and then
next thing you know he has
821
00:45:51,560 –> 00:45:55,360
secrets about federal agency and
finds his way out the window?
822
00:45:55,440 –> 00:45:58,680
Sounds very Russian to me.
Exactly.
823
00:45:58,880 –> 00:46:00,360
It’s like.
Was he running for office
824
00:46:00,360 –> 00:46:04,760
against Putin?
And yeah, the fact that the CIA,
825
00:46:04,760 –> 00:46:08,680
not only did they accept
responsibility for that part of
826
00:46:08,680 –> 00:46:10,920
the story, oh, yeah, we gave him
too much acid and he committed
827
00:46:10,920 –> 00:46:11,760
suicide.
Sorry.
828
00:46:12,120 –> 00:46:14,280
They were also like, you want to
meet the president, you guys
829
00:46:14,280 –> 00:46:16,680
commit.
Does he want you’ll meet Gerald
830
00:46:16,680 –> 00:46:19,360
Ford?
And when is the CIA ever like
831
00:46:19,360 –> 00:46:21,320
that?
Never right?
832
00:46:21,360 –> 00:46:23,400
Before they kill you, I would
assume Yeah.
833
00:46:23,400 –> 00:46:25,480
When?
Do they even acknowledge that
834
00:46:25,480 –> 00:46:28,520
they fucking exist?
And in that case they were like,
835
00:46:29,160 –> 00:46:30,320
got us?
Nope.
836
00:46:30,480 –> 00:46:33,360
You’d use chemical weapons in
Korea, probably, remember.
837
00:46:33,360 –> 00:46:39,360
That time the CIA got busted for
basically facilitating drugs to
838
00:46:39,360 –> 00:46:44,480
be or crack to exist in America
and went all the way up to one
839
00:46:44,480 –> 00:46:47,640
of the generals in the army and
the sitting vice president at
840
00:46:47,640 –> 00:46:50,480
the time didn’t.
Matter rumors.
841
00:46:50,920 –> 00:46:53,440
We’ve only had 6 movies and two
TV’s.
842
00:46:53,480 –> 00:46:57,400
Multi season TV series about
this very same subject.
843
00:46:57,560 –> 00:46:59,080
Nobody seems to care.
Just good.
844
00:46:59,080 –> 00:47:01,400
It’s just good content.
It’s just rumors.
845
00:47:01,760 –> 00:47:05,320
Corey, here’s what was happening
was inner city black people
846
00:47:05,320 –> 00:47:09,160
taking very expensive flights to
South and Central America,
847
00:47:09,320 –> 00:47:12,560
buying cocaine and then easily
smuggling it back across the
848
00:47:12,560 –> 00:47:14,600
border.
That’s obviously what happened.
849
00:47:14,760 –> 00:47:16,120
Yeah, because.
No one checked black people’s
850
00:47:16,120 –> 00:47:19,200
bags at the airport, No.
No, that would that would go
851
00:47:19,200 –> 00:47:21,840
really smooth, yeah.
And who would and what?
852
00:47:21,880 –> 00:47:24,560
What reason?
Wouldn’t some, some black guy
853
00:47:24,560 –> 00:47:28,160
from South Central Los Angeles
have to go to Nicaragua or or or
854
00:47:28,160 –> 00:47:30,320
Colombia?
He knows people out there.
855
00:47:30,320 –> 00:47:31,360
Come on.
Exactly.
856
00:47:31,400 –> 00:47:37,600
Yeah, yeah, the that CIA story
is nuts, but it is just another
857
00:47:37,600 –> 00:47:40,200
example of a thing I say all the
time.
858
00:47:40,280 –> 00:47:42,000
So what?
What are we going to do about
859
00:47:42,000 –> 00:47:44,600
it?
Like it’s the CIA, I say all the
860
00:47:44,600 –> 00:47:47,560
time, this is essentially just a
true crime podcast.
861
00:47:47,560 –> 00:47:49,240
But the criminal is always the
government.
862
00:47:49,400 –> 00:47:50,920
Yeah.
And, and you’re right.
863
00:47:50,920 –> 00:47:54,080
What can we do?
Because like, you’re trying to,
864
00:47:54,680 –> 00:47:57,720
like you keep presenting
evidence about the government to
865
00:47:57,720 –> 00:48:00,400
the government against the
government, expecting the
866
00:48:00,400 –> 00:48:02,160
government to be like, all
right, we did it.
867
00:48:02,840 –> 00:48:06,480
Yeah, never.
Going to happen unless you come
868
00:48:06,480 –> 00:48:09,440
up with a better cover story
than the one they’re telling the
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00:48:09,440 –> 00:48:12,360
only.
Way anything could happen is in
870
00:48:12,400 –> 00:48:15,720
in some world where America
wasn’t like a world leader in
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00:48:15,720 –> 00:48:21,520
both finance and military.
If NATO or like the UN is able
872
00:48:21,520 –> 00:48:24,400
to sanction us because there’s
otherwise it is.
873
00:48:24,440 –> 00:48:26,800
We’re literally, you can’t bully
the bully.
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00:48:26,920 –> 00:48:28,920
Yeah.
Like we’re too powerful for
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00:48:28,920 –> 00:48:30,480
anything to happen.
Yeah.
876
00:48:30,680 –> 00:48:36,360
Yeah, for now at least.
Yeah, Empires don’t usually last
877
00:48:36,360 –> 00:48:38,760
this long, Yeah.
Rome wasn’t built in the day,
878
00:48:38,760 –> 00:48:40,080
but it fell pretty fast, didn’t
it?
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00:48:40,160 –> 00:48:41,960
Yeah.
Yeah, did fall pretty quick.
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00:48:42,240 –> 00:48:45,040
So yeah, I think that’s our
episode.
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00:48:45,040 –> 00:48:48,840
I just want to reiterate, when
people say this story isn’t as
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00:48:49,080 –> 00:48:51,880
major as it seems, I think
that’s propaganda.
883
00:48:52,040 –> 00:48:54,880
I think that’s I mean, there’s
that government report, the
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00:48:54,880 –> 00:48:57,280
Department of Justice report.
If you want to take the
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00:48:57,280 –> 00:49:02,120
government at their word over
the killing of of Martin Luther
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00:49:02,120 –> 00:49:06,400
King junior, I guess go ahead.
But that seems like a silly
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00:49:06,400 –> 00:49:10,040
fucking proposition this
government you trust to be
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00:49:10,040 –> 00:49:13,760
telling the truth about this.
OK, OK, it’s fine.
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00:49:13,960 –> 00:49:15,960
We’ll see how the Malcolm X
trial goes.
890
00:49:16,200 –> 00:49:18,360
Corey, thank you so much for
doing the pod.
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00:49:18,480 –> 00:49:20,040
I appreciate it.
Thanks for having.
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00:49:20,560 –> 00:49:22,880
Fun.
What do we have to plug before
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00:49:22,880 –> 00:49:24,960
we get out of here?
All I got is my solo podcast in
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00:49:24,960 –> 00:49:26,560
broad daylight.
You can listen to it wherever
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00:49:26,560 –> 00:49:30,200
podcasts are or on YouTube at
Adam Todd Brown comedy.
896
00:49:30,280 –> 00:49:32,760
And I guess you can follow me on
Instagram at Adam Todd Brown.
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00:49:32,760 –> 00:49:35,160
That’s Todd with 1D.
Corey, what do you got to plug?
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00:49:35,400 –> 00:49:37,440
Let’s.
See, I will be in the Santa Cruz
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00:49:37,440 –> 00:49:41,320
Comedy Festival this week on the
10th up there in Santa Cruz.
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00:49:41,320 –> 00:49:44,360
Check the website
santacruzcomedyfestival.com for
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00:49:44,360 –> 00:49:47,440
all that goodness I’m doing.
I’m producing a show in
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00:49:47,440 –> 00:49:51,360
Pleasanton, CA at Tommy Tease on
November 27th, the day before
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00:49:51,640 –> 00:49:55,200
Thanksgiving and other than
that, I am just looking for work
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00:49:55,200 –> 00:49:57,720
out here in these streets.
Follow me on Instagram at Corey.
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00:49:58,400 –> 00:50:00,800
All right.
And let’s get out of here,
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00:50:01,040 –> 00:50:02,560
Corey, say goodbye.
Bye.
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00:50:02,560 –> 00:50:04,560
Everybody have a good one.
Don’t trust the government.
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00:50:05,520 –> 00:50:07,920
Goodbye everybody, Definitely do
not trust the government.
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00:50:07,920 –> 00:50:09,640
We love you.
And fuck the police.