Conspiracy! The Show 284: The Death of Elvis Presley Pt. 2: Dr. Nick

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Elvis Presley was a giant on
America’s cultural landscape, a

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man filled with passion and fire
at a time when most of the rest

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of the country was sleepwalking
through its cultural life.

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He didn’t invent rock’n’roll, he
just hand carried it into the

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mainstream.
Elvis Presley was different, and

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because he was good at it, it
paid off.

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All 28 of his movies were money
makers, and his records have

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sold somewhere between 7 and 800
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That works out to roughly one
Elvis Presley record for each

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family on the face of the earth.
Despite the fact that hundreds

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of thousands of people
worshipped him, the King

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demonstrated the fact of his
mortality when he died at the

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age of 42.
They told us of a heart attack.

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But did Elvis Presley really die
of a heart attack?

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Welcome to Conspiracy the Show,
the world’s most trusted

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conspiracy.
Theory podcast with your hosts.

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Adam Todd Brown and Olivia
Hydar.

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Hey everybody, welcome to
Conspiracy the Show.

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I’m your host, Adam Todd Brown.
And let me tell you, I’m all

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shook up for this week’s Co
host.

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My favorite Co host of all.
No Co host.

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I don’t even have any guests
unless you count the alleged

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ghost of Elvis a Ron Presley.
I am continuing my deep dive

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into his death.
I don’t know.

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I’m still not convinced, no
matter how much Geraldo Rivera

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wants me to be.
Remember that I mentioned him at

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the end of last week’s episode?
Or did you pretend you didn’t

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hear it?
Understandable.

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If so, that guy kind of sucks.
But the fact remains, Geraldo

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Rivera was actually a key figure
in the reporting around a

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potential cover up in the death
of Elvis Presley.

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He was coming at it from a
different angle than last week’s

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subject, GAIL Brewer Giorgio.
While her suspicion is that

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Elvis faked his death, Geraldo
is more convinced that the local

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medical examiner was involved in
a cover up meant to hide the

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truth, which is that Elvis died
of a drug overdose.

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It’s exactly the kind of story
that would make a person like

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Elvis want to fuck off to
Argentina forever.

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I get that we’re talking about
one of the most famous people of

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all time, but hey, Elvis wasn’t
an elected official.

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Taxpayer money didn’t pay his
salary.

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His job did not involve public
safety, no matter what happened

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on August 16th, 1970. 77 There
has never been a point in

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history when we, the public,
were entitled to know every

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single detail about how or even
if Elvis died.

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And we probably never will.
But my concerns about this

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Geraldo story go beyond
invasions of privacy and HIPAA

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violations.
HIPAA didn’t even exist back

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then.
Anyway.

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I’ll put it this way, if Elvis
did die in 1977, Geraldo is

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absolutely right about what he’s
getting at in this report.

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But if Elvis did fake his death
with the help of the FBI and

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join the witness protection
program, which is the claim that

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all of this is building up to,
if that is what happened, this

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Geraldo Rivera 2020 report is,
intentionally or not, absolutely

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part of that scheme.
And when I say absolutely, I

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mean it in that non absolute.
I can never prove it.

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So I’m not actually saying it
happened kind of way.

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All we got anymore is our gut
when it comes to a lot of this

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stuff.
And my gut tells me this 2020

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report is up to something.
Let’s talk about the report

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itself and then we’ll talk about
why I feel that way.

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One of the first people Geraldo
talks to is Ginger Alden, Elvis

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Presley’s then fiance.
She is the person who found his

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body.
Geraldo asks what she was told

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killed him and she says that she
was told Elvis died of a heart

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attack.
This is an interesting detail

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aside from the part where it
would involve other people.

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I kind of wish I was doing this
episode live or with other

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people because I am curious
about what people these days

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think did kill Elvis.
Everyone knows he died on or

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around the toilet, but I think
folks might be surprised to know

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that the exact cause of Elvis’s
death is a hotly debated topic

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that still hasn’t been
completely settled throughout

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this episode.
You’re going to hear references

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to the autopsy results.
If you Google around a little,

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you’ll find a document out there
that’s often referred to as the

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autopsy report.
It is not the document that’s

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out there is the medical
examiner’s report.

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And there is a bunch of
weirdness around that document

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as well.
And we’ll get to it in a bit.

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But the autopsy results, we for
the most part, still have not

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seen those.
Vernon Presley, Elvis’s dad,

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ordered that they be sealed for
50 years.

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The autopsy results won’t be
released until 2027.

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Did you know that?
I did not know that.

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I’m sure I’ve heard it at
various points throughout my

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conspiracy theory travels, but
if so, it wasn’t a detail I’d

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committed to memory.
You’ll see some tabloid ish

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articles out there that claim to
reveal the results of that

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autopsy, but they’re actually
just accounts of what a guy who

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claims to have seen the autopsy
results has to say about it.

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What’s the difference between a
medical examiner’s report and

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autopsy results?
I also did not know that, but I

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looked it up and from what I
gather, the coroner or medical

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examiner’s report rules on the
circumstances or manner of

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death, natural causes, accident,
homicide, et cetera.

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And then the autopsy is the deep
dive that figures out why the

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deceased got unalived in the way
that they did.

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That makes perfect sense because
the autopsy report in air quotes

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that you can find online is 2
pages long, and it has none of

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the gory details you’d expect
from an autopsy report.

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Geraldo’s claims in this 2020
episode center around the

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medical examiner’s report and
Geraldo’s belief that releasing

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the autopsy results will confirm
his claims.

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The main gripe he has is that
allegedly lots of people who

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were in the room for the autopsy
wanted to issue a ruling that

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Elvis died from unknown
circumstances.

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But that awesomely named Shelby
County Medical Examiner Doctor

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Jerry Francisco went rogue and
immediately told the world Elvis

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died of a heart attack.
That’s the elevator pitch

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version of what’s happening in
this 2020 episode.

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The medical examiner says it’s a
heart attack, Geraldo thinks

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it’s drugs, and he wants to see
the autopsy results so he can

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confirm it.
After running through all of

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those questions, the 2020 report
moves on to a reconstruction of

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the last 12 hours of Elvis’s
life.

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One hour before midnight on the
night before he died, Elvis had

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a dentist appointment.
That’s being rich and famous for

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you. 11:00 PM Dental
appointments.

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As mentioned on the last
episode, Elvis was scheduled to

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leave for a tour on the day he
died, and he was trying to get

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his teeth cleaned for it.
Granted, he didn’t order any

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costumes for that tour, and he
didn’t have his hair or

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sideburns dyed for that tour, if
Gale Brewer Giorgio is to be

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believed, and that sure is
weird.

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But he did get his teeth
cleaned, sure, but also that

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dental appointment probably
wasn’t all that it seemed to be.

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We’ll get to that in a minute.
After a couple hours of typical

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Elvis night owl, jibber jabber
with his team around 4:00 AM or

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so, Elvis did exactly what you’d
expect fat, drug addled end of

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days Elvis to do at 4:00 in the
morning.

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He played a couple hours of
racquetball from there.

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Ginger Alden says he called for
medication to help him sleep at

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around 6:30 AM, and after taking
it he started reading a book

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about psychic energy.
That all does definitely sound

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like the Elvis we know.
He got up again at 8:00 AM

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because he couldn’t sleep, at
which point he requested more

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drugs.
It’s worth noting, as far as I

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can tell, this 2020 report is
kind of where this version of

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events comes from, and it is the
official version of events.

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This is original Geraldo
reporting built from interviews

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with people who were there.
It’s possible that reporting and

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people who were there might
deserve some air quotes.

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Whatever the case, while there
were definitely actual court

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cases and things of the like in
regards to the death of Elvis,

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it all comes after this 2020
report.

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And it’s this report that
prompted the biggest criminal

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case in the death of Elvis
Presley.

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But more on that later.
Back to those last 12 hours in

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the life of Elvis.
After getting that second batch

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of medicine, he gets up a third
time and takes the book about

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psychic energy to the bathroom.
Ginger Alden tells him not to

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fall asleep, and then she
immediately falls asleep.

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She eventually finds him dead in
the bathroom around 2:00 PM that

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day.
Authorities arrive.

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He’s taken to the hospital.
He’s dead.

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Let’s get into one of Geraldo’s
first claims.

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Item ABC News has learned that
no immediate discovery was made

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of any disease or injury which
could have caused Elvis’s death.

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His heart was indeed enlarged
and muscular, and there was

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significant blockage of the
arteries.

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But according to two doctors
present at the autopsy, serious

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heart disease was still years
away for Elvis Presley.

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So Elvis had an enlarged heart
and some arteries were blocked,

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but he was still years away from
serious heart disease That comes

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up in this episode.
What’s interesting about this is

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what isn’t said, Geraldo is
claiming this is coming from

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people who were present for the
autopsy, and he talks to some of

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those people.
And you know what?

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No one ever says Elvis had a
colon the size of a baby whale.

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I don’t know that he did.
But that has become a detail of

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this story in the years since,
mostly starting with those

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tabloid articles from a few
years ago.

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That’s one of the details about
this 2020 report.

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That kind of doesn’t sit right
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Geraldo is talking to doctors
and hospital personnel who say

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they were in the room for the
autopsy.

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And all of them sort of weave in
and out of openly sharing

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details about what they saw,
like how they were convinced it

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was a drug overdose, but then
also saying they can’t tell him

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what they saw because of privacy
reasons.

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So we hear all about how they
think it was drugs, but any

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specific details fall victim to
medical privacy.

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We can’t say.
And now we’ve been through this

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next part already.
Doctors decide to tell the world

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Elvis died of, quote, unknown
causes on account of him having

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some but not enough heart
disease and an apparently

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unremarkable colon.
But then Doctor Jerry Francisco

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comes out and tells the world
that Elvis died of a heart

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attack.
Geraldo talks about how Doctor

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Francisco refused to be
interviewed and also refused to

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release the autopsy results.
2020 eventually sued to get a

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copy of that autopsy report, and
that’s what got the autopsy

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report sealed for 50 years.
This seems to be correct.

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They interviewed Doctor Neil
Florendo, who was also in the

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autopsy room.
Doctor.

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Florenda, in your medical
judgement, was there any

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evidence that Elvis Presley died
of a heart attack?

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From what I saw grossly.
And from what my limited.

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Judgment was at that particular
time, there was no gross

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evidence of a heart attack.
There was no gross evidence of a

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heart, no gross evidence of a
heart attack.

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Were you surprised by Doctor
Francisco’s announcement that he

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had died of cardiac arrhythmia?
Personally, yes, I was

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surprised.
There’s another important figure

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in this Doctor Muirhead, who
tells Geraldo there was no sign

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of a heart attack.
He also runs down the list of

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drugs that were alleged to have
been in Elvis’s system.

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Codeine, morphine, Quaalude,
Valium, Valmid, Placidyl,

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Nemgetol, Phenobarbital,
Pentobarbital, butibarbital.

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It’s explained that all of these
are central nervous system

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depressants, often abused,
several of them very addictive.

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There are some weird details
about this toxicology report

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where this list of drugs comes
from.

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It seems like at the time the
hospital where Elvis’s autopsy

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is alleged to have been done,
they didn’t have a lab that was

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capable of doing the kind of
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So these results come from a lab
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And there is, as we’ll find out
later on, some dispute as to

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their news worthiness.
But first, let’s hear from

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Geraldo again.
Item Elvis’s stomach contents

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were destroyed without ever
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OK, now that’s a tasty detail.
You can determine a lot of

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things from stomach contents,
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That’s one detail history seems
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We know the window of time in
which he died thanks to this ABC

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2020 report And Ginger Alden
later writing a book about her

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experience with Elvis.
Destroying the stomach contents

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could be a means of hiding that
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It could also be a sign that no
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You know, maybe there are no
stomach contents.

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Whatever the case, Doctor Jerry
Francisco comes out two months

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later and double S down on his
finding that a heart attack

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killed Elvis.
So what’s fascinating about this

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to me is that someone S lying,
right?

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The only question is why and
who.

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Speaking of that, Cyril Wecht
shows up in this.

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Geraldo takes the findings of
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lab in California and shows them
to several different

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pathologists and various medical
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Cyril Wecht is one of them.
I don’t know how much I trust

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that guy.
He shows up in pretty much any

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case where the media has a role
in crafting a potentially

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incorrect version of events.
Celebrity pathologists don’t

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become celebrities by being the
best, they do it by saying what

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people want them to say in the
right moments.

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Look into the details of any
high profile murder case.

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Michael Peterson, Scott
Peterson, Steven Avery, you name

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it.
In every case, one side finds a

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medical expert who’s willing to
say the evidence points to one

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finding, and the other side
always finds a medical expert

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who’s willing to say the
evidence points to their

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finding.
It’s almost as if some of the

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science we use to send people to
prison could maybe be a little

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more faulty than we’ve been led
to believe.

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But hey, that’s a talk for
another day.

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Let’s listen to Cyril Wecht.
To be certain, we asked for a

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second expert opinion.
We provided the data to Doctor

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Cyril Wecht, the coroner for
Pittsburgh and Allegheny County,

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for analysis.
Doctor Wecht is one of the

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foremost medical examiners in
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I believe that Mister Presley
died as a result of a combined

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drug effect.
Various drugs, all of which are

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known to be central nervous
system depressants, collectively

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cause the heart and lung to be
depressed.

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The brain controls the
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involuntarily, and when the
brain is depressed by multiple

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drugs, such as happened in this
case, in my opinion, the heart

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and lungs will not function
properly.

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What drugs specifically are we
referring to, doctor?

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There were several drugs
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The principal offender in this
case was codeine, which is a

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pain reliever but which is known
to have ACNS depressant defect.

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They also interview Elvis’s
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He tells Geraldo he saw Elvis
abusing drugs regularly.

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Another stepbrother, Rick
Stanley, says he picked up a

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prescription for Dilaudid for
Elvis the night before he died.

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And that’s where they get into
Elvis’s history with

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prescription medications.
These were all legally

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prescribed drugs, albeit
potentially over prescribed.

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Next, we talked to former LAPD
detective John O’Grady.

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He’s interviewed in this 2020
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And oh man, the LAPD.
There’s a name I trust to not be

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involved in high level
conspiracies involving the

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American government.
He says he frequently worked

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with Elvis’s father, Vernon, to
investigate where Elvis was

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getting his drugs from.
This feels like a plot hole in

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the Geraldo report.
They act like where Elvis was

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getting his drugs from was a
mystery to people while also

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interviewing people who talk
about filling lots and lots of

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prescriptions for Elvis.
If anyone’s going to know what

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doctors were giving him these
drugs, it’s going to be the

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people around him who just went
and picked up the drugs.

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I don’t understand all of this
extra investigative work.

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It feels like they might be
trying a little too hard.

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So what’s this LAPD guy’s deal,
you know?

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Nevertheless, let’s listen to a
quote from former LAPD Detective

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John O’Grady.
Should his attending physicians

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have noticed the fact that he
was abusing these drugs, he’d

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either have to be a retarded
alligator not to notice that, or

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a totally incompetent medical
doctor.

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OK, well fuck that guy.
So next Geraldo starts chatting

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up the doctors who prescribed
Elvis his drugs.

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One of them being Max Shapiro
who is described as a doctor

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feel good type who was known for
prescribing narcotics more than

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most doctors would.
He is a dentist who also makes

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house calls as dentists often
do.

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I don’t think he says he
prescribes medication more than

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most doctors but does it out of
compassion.

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And Geraldo asked to see the
inside of Doctor Max’s silver

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briefcase and he says no but
confirms there’s a shit ton of

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drugs in there.
It’s worth noting Dr. Max seems

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like a movie character.
This part is weird.

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I didn’t find a whole lot of
references to Doctor Max Shapiro

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outside of this episode.
There’s a timeline thing on a

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website that says Lisa Marie
took a trip with him in 1973,

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but that’s about it.
Granted, I didn’t spend an

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entire day looking for those
references or anything like

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that, but if they’re out there,
they don’t pop up immediately.

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There’s a book out there called
Doctor Feel Good about a Doctor

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Who treated Elvis, JFK, a whole
bunch of other famous people,

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but his name was Max Jacobson.
Sorry, Doctor.

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Max Jacobson, for whatever
reason, despite openly

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confessing to probably maybe
over prescribing drugs on a

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national news program, it seems
like none of the consequences

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that befall the next guy we’re
going to talk about ever come

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down on Doctor Max’s head.
I don’t know why that is, but

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next Geraldo interviews Doctor
George Nikopoulos, AKA Doctor

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Nick.
This guy is a pretty notorious

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figure in Elvis fandom.
Good friend of Elvis, his

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personal physician Geraldo.
We find out from an article

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related to this ABC News story,
just sort of ambushes Dr. Nick.

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He shows up at his office and
says, hey, you can sit down with

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me for an interview right now or
I’ll wait for you to leave for

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the day.
I’ll stick a microphone in your

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face.
You can say no comment and

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that’s good enough.
I’ll be able to say whatever I

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want about you on this ABC News
program.

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So Doctor Nick sits down for an
interview with Geraldo.

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And one thing that stands out
about Doctor Nick compared to

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Doctor Max, Elvis’s dentist, who
seems like he was cast to play a

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drug dealing dentist, when they
ask him about prescribing these

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medications, he knows he did it.
So he pushes back with stuff

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like, well, I don’t want people
to be in pain.

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That’s my whole thing is I make
sure my patients are never in

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pain.
So yeah, I probably over

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prescribe.
Dr. Nick, on the other hand,

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vehemently denies that he
prescribed drugs to Elvis, to

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the degree that Geraldo is
claiming he’s got a soft voice.

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He seems very nervous, as anyone
would probably be if a national

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news show came to your job and
started asking you questions

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about the death of one of the
most popular musicians of all

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time.
The records indicate that

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especially in the last year of
his life, he prescribed certain

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medications to Elvis Presley in
quite extraordinarily large

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amounts.
Why?

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I can’t comment on that.
And I don’t believe that’s true.

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Well, the records we have doctor
and I’ll say this as gently as I

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possibly can indicate that from
January 20th, 1977 until August

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16th, 1977, the day he died, you
prescribed to Elvis Presley and

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the prescriptions are all signed
by you over 5000 scheduled to

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narcotics and or amphetamines
that comes out to something like

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25 per day.
I don’t believe that.

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Well, is it something that you’d
like to refresh your

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recollection on or is it
something that you deny?

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I deny.
He sticks to those denials

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throughout this whole interview.
He is steadfast in his denial

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that no, he did not prescribe as
many drugs as Geraldo is

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claiming.
Before we get into that more,

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Anyway, let’s get to one of

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Geraldo’s complaints that is
almost completely glossed over

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here.
Here goes.

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Item All the photographs taken
of the death scene, all the

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notes of the medical examiner’s
investigator, and all of the

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toxicological reports allegedly
prepared by the medical examiner

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are missing from the official
files.

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That’s convenient.
No pictures of the death scene,

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No pictures of the autopsy.
What an unfortunate but surely

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accidental miscarriage of proper
procedure.

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There’s also this guy.
Item Officials of the county

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government believe there’s been
a cover up.

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The Elvis mystique completely
pervades the Memphis area, and

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if there are individuals who are
so concerned with the mystique

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that they do not care to know
the truth, then I feel that

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somewhere along the way someone
has to take it upon himself.

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To see that the truth.
Is brought up, but you

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definitely feel there’s a cover
up.

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I’m positive about that.
That one is important.

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That’s Doctor Vasco Smith, and
he is confident that there was a

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cover up of some sort happening
in the death of Elvis.

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He actually comes up in Gale
Brewer Giorgio’s book.

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He was approached years later by
an outlet that was looking into

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claims of a cover up of some
sort in Elvis Presley’s death.

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And when they asked him about
Elvis, first, he says I was more

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of a jazz fan, which I like
that.

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And then they’re like, no, no,
no, no, no, we’re asking about

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the cover up.
You said that thing on the ABC

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2020 report.
And Doctor Vasco Smith is like,

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Nah, I’m not talking about that
anymore.

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And people not wanting to talk
specifically about this ABC 2020

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report, weirdly, is going to
become a pattern.

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And I know we love a pattern on
the Internet these days, right?

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And for good reason.
Very helpfully, the video I’m

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watching, which I will link to,
tags a follow up report from a

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later episode about the
indictment of the aforementioned

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Dr. Nick.
Several years later, he was

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finally indicted in the death of
Elvis Presley.

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I say several years later, it
was three.

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It was 1980.
I want to point out here that

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when I’m covering a documentary
or a news report like this, I

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take notes as I watch, and
sometimes my notes include my

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hunches as to where things might
be going.

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I bring that up only to mention
that my first note after

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watching that part of the 2020
report was this.

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Here’s a quote from my own
notes.

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This guy would have been really
easy to set up as part of a fake

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death plot.
End Quote.

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So here’s the thing.
A lot of what has developed with

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this case in the years since.
All of what I’m talking about

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right now centers around what we
didn’t know back in the 1970s.

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00:27:28,720 –> 00:27:32,520
And what’s a thing that we
didn’t quite know as well in the

436
00:27:32,520 –> 00:27:35,640
70s that we all pretty much know
now.

437
00:27:35,760 –> 00:27:40,280
It’s that the police are quite
often quite shady.

438
00:27:40,400 –> 00:27:42,480
They were back then.
They are now.

439
00:27:42,560 –> 00:27:46,440
We just didn’t have the video
evidence to prove it back then.

440
00:27:46,600 –> 00:27:49,000
And yeah, we kind of did even
then, too.

441
00:27:49,240 –> 00:27:51,360
That’s another episode.
Let’s listen to her.

442
00:27:51,360 –> 00:27:53,880
All those thoughts on the
prosecution’s case here.

443
00:27:54,360 –> 00:27:57,520
So almost three years after the
death of Elvis Presley, his long

444
00:27:57,520 –> 00:28:00,840
time personal physician has
finally been indicted, in part

445
00:28:00,840 –> 00:28:03,240
because of the way he cared for
his famous patient.

446
00:28:04,000 –> 00:28:07,360
If convicted, Dr. Nakopolis
would face between 2 and 10

447
00:28:07,360 –> 00:28:11,800
years in prison for each of the
14 counts, and ABC News has

448
00:28:11,800 –> 00:28:15,080
learned that the prosecution
feels the case against him is.

449
00:28:15,160 –> 00:28:17,560
Airtight.
OK, interesting.

450
00:28:17,720 –> 00:28:20,840
And why does he think that case
is airtight?

451
00:28:21,000 –> 00:28:23,840
Here’s another.
Clip For instance, in April and

452
00:28:23,840 –> 00:28:27,840
again in July of 1977, Doctor
Nick’s medical bag was reported

453
00:28:27,840 –> 00:28:30,560
stolen after the contents had
been taken.

454
00:28:30,560 –> 00:28:32,360
The bags were recovered by the
police.

455
00:28:32,760 –> 00:28:35,720
Before returning the bag to the
doctor, the police apparently

456
00:28:35,720 –> 00:28:39,000
copied down his schedules for
dispensing drugs to Elvis

457
00:28:39,000 –> 00:28:41,240
Presley.
In other words, from the

458
00:28:41,240 –> 00:28:45,680
doctor’s own notes found inside
his own medical bag, the state

459
00:28:45,680 –> 00:28:48,320
knows exactly what he gave to
Elvis and when.

460
00:28:48,680 –> 00:28:51,280
OK.
Let’s be honest, the police

461
00:28:51,280 –> 00:28:54,080
stole those bags, right?
Or at the very least, they had

462
00:28:54,080 –> 00:28:57,080
those bags stolen.
In the lead up to one of the

463
00:28:57,080 –> 00:29:01,000
biggest conspiracy theories of
all time, the police magically

464
00:29:01,000 –> 00:29:05,600
recovered a bag of stolen
narcotics from the doctor at the

465
00:29:05,600 –> 00:29:09,760
center of all this.
Twice within the span of three

466
00:29:09,760 –> 00:29:13,360
months and before they return it
to him, they crack it open and

467
00:29:13,360 –> 00:29:15,840
write down everything it says
about Elvis.

468
00:29:16,040 –> 00:29:20,760
I understand that this was an
instantly accepted detail that

469
00:29:20,760 –> 00:29:25,480
elicited 0 scrutiny in the late
70s when Barney Miller ruled the

470
00:29:25,480 –> 00:29:28,720
airwaves, but it is 2K goddamn
24.

471
00:29:28,960 –> 00:29:33,680
We know how the cops do.
If anyone could have been

472
00:29:33,680 –> 00:29:38,760
enlisted to plant evidence in a
scheme to fake Elvis’s death, it

473
00:29:38,760 –> 00:29:43,560
is literally any cop in the 70s.
And no shit this is presented as

474
00:29:43,560 –> 00:29:48,760
conclusive proof that this guy
over prescribed Elvis a shit ton

475
00:29:48,760 –> 00:29:50,600
of drugs.
Are you skeptical?

476
00:29:50,760 –> 00:29:54,240
You should be for a few reasons.
For one thing, Doctor Nick was

477
00:29:54,240 –> 00:29:58,680
acquitted when this finally went
to a criminal trial twice.

478
00:29:58,840 –> 00:30:02,280
He was acquitted twice.
So that should give you some

479
00:30:02,280 –> 00:30:05,920
pause, just on the surface.
But also consider this.

480
00:30:06,080 –> 00:30:10,360
We’re talking about the Doctor
Who was accused of killing

481
00:30:10,520 –> 00:30:17,880
Elvis, and he went on trial in
Elvis’s home state and a jury

482
00:30:17,880 –> 00:30:21,520
acquitted him twice.
You think the people of

483
00:30:21,520 –> 00:30:25,840
Tennessee wouldn’t have loved to
send Doctor Nick straight to

484
00:30:25,840 –> 00:30:28,120
hell for murdering Elvis
Presley?

485
00:30:28,280 –> 00:30:29,840
Sure they would.
But they didn’t.

486
00:30:30,000 –> 00:30:32,080
And I promise you it’s not
because of Doctor Nick’s

487
00:30:32,080 –> 00:30:37,360
personality and joie de vive.
Also, I found an article from

488
00:30:37,360 –> 00:30:41,320
Memphis magazine from back in
the day where they interview the

489
00:30:41,320 –> 00:30:44,080
ABC producers behind this
Geraldo report.

490
00:30:44,240 –> 00:30:47,000
I’ll link to it.
It reveals some highly

491
00:30:47,000 –> 00:30:50,520
interesting details that you
don’t see in that 2020 report.

492
00:30:50,640 –> 00:30:53,880
It was published while Doctor
Nick was before the medical

493
00:30:53,880 –> 00:30:57,200
board in Tennessee to decide if
he got to keep his medical

494
00:30:57,200 –> 00:30:59,600
license.
For what it’s worth, despite the

495
00:30:59,600 –> 00:31:02,400
claims that he basically
murdered Elvis through medical

496
00:31:02,400 –> 00:31:06,200
negligence, his license was
eventually suspended for all of

497
00:31:06,200 –> 00:31:09,800
three months.
That time in 1995, they

498
00:31:09,800 –> 00:31:13,320
eventually took it for good.
Look, I’m not saying Doctor Nick

499
00:31:13,520 –> 00:31:17,640
didn’t over prescribe drugs, OK?
But what’s interesting about

500
00:31:17,640 –> 00:31:20,240
this article is that it gets
into some of the behind the

501
00:31:20,240 –> 00:31:22,720
scenes details of that Geraldo
report.

502
00:31:22,960 –> 00:31:27,400
That article is called How ABC
Unearthed the Elvis Story by Tom

503
00:31:27,400 –> 00:31:29,960
Martin, writing for Memphis
magazine.

504
00:31:30,360 –> 00:31:32,560
We’ll link to it.
They interviewed 2 ABC

505
00:31:32,560 –> 00:31:35,400
producers, Charlie Thompson and
James Cole.

506
00:31:35,520 –> 00:31:37,840
They both claimed that when a
local reporter named EB

507
00:31:37,840 –> 00:31:40,880
Blackburn, who wrote for a
Memphis outlet called Commercial

508
00:31:40,880 –> 00:31:44,760
Appeal, which still exists, it’s
the USA TODAY property, found

509
00:31:44,760 –> 00:31:48,360
out that they had copies of
Elvis’s toxicology report.

510
00:31:48,520 –> 00:31:51,560
Cole and Thompson both claim he
called and told them that there

511
00:31:51,560 –> 00:31:53,080
was nothing to see there.
There.

512
00:31:53,440 –> 00:31:56,160
Elvis didn’t die of drugs.
And hey, you should just, you

513
00:31:56,160 –> 00:32:01,120
know, destroy those reports
before those irresponsible folks

514
00:32:01,120 –> 00:32:03,640
from the New York Times and the
BBC come to town.

515
00:32:03,760 –> 00:32:07,600
But here’s the thing.
EB Blackburn denies that in the

516
00:32:07,600 –> 00:32:10,280
very next paragraph.
Here’s a quote.

517
00:32:10,440 –> 00:32:13,840
Charlie Thompson and I had a
very brief conversation, and I

518
00:32:13,840 –> 00:32:16,360
certainly never called anyone
irresponsible.

519
00:32:16,480 –> 00:32:21,800
I have no desire to get into any
dispute with ABC or any other

520
00:32:21,800 –> 00:32:25,240
arm of the media.
We pursued the story as far as

521
00:32:25,240 –> 00:32:27,800
we could go.
At the time, we were the first

522
00:32:27,800 –> 00:32:31,640
news agency to ever hint that
drugs were involved.

523
00:32:31,800 –> 00:32:36,000
We did print that toxicology
data and we tried to get the

524
00:32:36,000 –> 00:32:40,080
autopsy, but we ran into all the
walls that everyone else has

525
00:32:40,080 –> 00:32:43,080
since run into.
I’m satisfied that we pursued

526
00:32:43,080 –> 00:32:45,880
the story at the time as far as
we could.

527
00:32:46,080 –> 00:32:51,880
I can’t begin to tell you why
ABC developed such a late

528
00:32:51,960 –> 00:32:53,880
interest in it.
End Quote.

529
00:32:55,120 –> 00:33:00,480
So this comes down to a matter
of who do you believe, Geraldo

530
00:33:00,480 –> 00:33:05,840
Rivera and these two ABC News
producers who sort of imply that

531
00:33:05,840 –> 00:33:11,800
local reporter EB Blackburn is
at least incompetent in his

532
00:33:11,800 –> 00:33:17,040
coverage of this story, if not
maybe involved in a cover up of

533
00:33:17,040 –> 00:33:19,240
this story.
Do you believe that?

534
00:33:19,360 –> 00:33:23,480
Or do you believe EB Blackburn
when he says, no, we published

535
00:33:23,480 –> 00:33:27,400
it and it wasn’t as newsworthy
as you think because that’s a

536
00:33:27,400 –> 00:33:31,280
big discrepancy.
Charlie Thompson and James Cole.

537
00:33:31,400 –> 00:33:36,640
On top of claiming that EB
Blackburn tried to shut down

538
00:33:36,960 –> 00:33:40,560
Geraldo’s reporting on this
toxicology report, they also

539
00:33:40,560 –> 00:33:44,120
claim that the outlet he worked
for never published it.

540
00:33:44,240 –> 00:33:48,640
As if to imply that they had it,
but just kind of sat on it for

541
00:33:48,640 –> 00:33:50,760
what?
To hide the fact that drugs were

542
00:33:50,760 –> 00:33:53,720
involved in Elvis’s death?
But if they did publish it, that

543
00:33:53,720 –> 00:33:56,760
blows up Geraldo’s theory
entirely.

544
00:33:57,000 –> 00:33:59,920
And then the very next
paragraph, we get this quote.

545
00:34:00,040 –> 00:34:02,240
This is directly from the
article.

546
00:34:02,320 –> 00:34:04,960
Here goes.
Beth Tamke, who has since been

547
00:34:04,960 –> 00:34:09,280
reassigned to the Papers Action
Pleas column, refuses to discuss

548
00:34:09,280 –> 00:34:11,719
the matter now.
I’ve kept my mouth shut for

549
00:34:11,719 –> 00:34:15,960
three years, and I’m not going
to start talking now, she says.

550
00:34:16,159 –> 00:34:19,679
I’m an employee here and I
fulfill my duties, and that’s as

551
00:34:19,679 –> 00:34:22,080
far as I go.
End Quote.

552
00:34:22,239 –> 00:34:25,159
So there’s that.
It seems like people at this

553
00:34:25,159 –> 00:34:29,880
paper did report on it.
They did all the things they

554
00:34:29,880 –> 00:34:32,480
were supposed to do in pursuit
of this story.

555
00:34:32,679 –> 00:34:37,719
And then ABC News comes to town
and one, decides this story is a

556
00:34:37,719 –> 00:34:41,360
way bigger deal than it is.
And two, starts telling local

557
00:34:41,360 –> 00:34:45,360
news outlets that Commercial
Appeal dropped the ball when it

558
00:34:45,360 –> 00:34:47,480
comes to reporting on the death
of Elvis.

559
00:34:47,679 –> 00:34:49,600
And so again, it comes down to
who do you trust?

560
00:34:49,760 –> 00:34:53,719
Which brings us back to the
Doctor Nick interview.

561
00:34:53,880 –> 00:34:58,040
This article also reveals that
there might have been some

562
00:34:58,040 –> 00:35:01,240
trickery involved there.
Here’s a direct quote from the

563
00:35:01,240 –> 00:35:02,520
article.
I’m sorry it’s a little bit

564
00:35:02,520 –> 00:35:04,760
long.
Rivera then pulled out a scrap

565
00:35:04,760 –> 00:35:07,960
of paper about the size of a
prescription form.

566
00:35:08,080 –> 00:35:12,280
He asked once more if Nicopolis
was sure he hadn’t prescribed

567
00:35:12,600 –> 00:35:15,640
huge doses of narcotics to
Presley.

568
00:35:15,760 –> 00:35:20,200
Nicopolis said nothing, as Cole
later described it, but believe

569
00:35:20,200 –> 00:35:23,640
Doctor Nick thought Geraldo was
actually holding a prescription.

570
00:35:23,760 –> 00:35:28,000
In fact, he still believes to
this day that we brought stolen

571
00:35:28,000 –> 00:35:30,000
prescriptions with us to the
interview.

572
00:35:30,120 –> 00:35:32,240
He never asked Geraldo if the
piece of paper was a

573
00:35:32,240 –> 00:35:34,760
prescription.
If he had, I don’t think Geraldo

574
00:35:34,760 –> 00:35:37,200
would have lied about it.
But Geraldo did ask the

575
00:35:37,200 –> 00:35:40,040
questions with great authority
and insistence.

576
00:35:40,240 –> 00:35:43,920
I can see how Necopolis could
have had the impression that we

577
00:35:43,920 –> 00:35:47,040
had some prescriptions with us.
End Quote.

578
00:35:47,200 –> 00:35:50,760
And again, Doctor Nick is indeed
very insistent that he did not

579
00:35:50,760 –> 00:35:54,920
prescribe drugs to Elvis in the
manner that Geraldo is claiming.

580
00:35:55,040 –> 00:35:59,240
And I just want to remind people
that we eventually found out

581
00:35:59,400 –> 00:36:03,320
that the details about how often
he prescribed drugs to Elvis

582
00:36:03,480 –> 00:36:07,080
comes from what the police claim
they found when they recovered

583
00:36:07,400 –> 00:36:12,440
his stolen bag and wrote down
what was in his notes twice in

584
00:36:12,440 –> 00:36:15,800
the span of three months.
Another reminder, the ultimate

585
00:36:15,800 –> 00:36:19,360
claim here is Elvis joined
witness protection if that

586
00:36:19,360 –> 00:36:22,560
happened and death by
combination of bad living and

587
00:36:22,920 –> 00:36:25,360
too many drugs is your cover
story.

588
00:36:25,600 –> 00:36:29,000
Planning evidence on Doctor Nick
during those two stolen bag

589
00:36:29,000 –> 00:36:32,360
incidents that happened a few
short months prior to Elvis

590
00:36:32,360 –> 00:36:37,640
dying would not be impossible at
all, and I suspect that might

591
00:36:37,640 –> 00:36:39,720
have a lot to do with why he was
acquitted.

592
00:36:39,920 –> 00:36:43,440
You know, we talk all the time
about how true crime types love

593
00:36:43,440 –> 00:36:47,400
to parrot that police talking
point that there’s no such thing

594
00:36:47,720 –> 00:36:50,200
as a coincidence when you’re
talking about crime.

595
00:36:50,360 –> 00:36:54,480
Doctor Nick getting his bag
stolen twice in three months and

596
00:36:54,480 –> 00:36:59,240
having it recovered both times
by spy cops is not a

597
00:36:59,240 –> 00:37:01,640
coincidence.
At least I have a hard time

598
00:37:01,640 –> 00:37:05,360
believing it’s a coincidence.
I said this about the Orion book

599
00:37:05,360 –> 00:37:08,160
last week, and I’ll say it about
Doctor Nick this week.

600
00:37:08,320 –> 00:37:11,200
I don’t know what the fuck is
going on with Doctor Nick, but

601
00:37:11,200 –> 00:37:13,480
something.
The fuck is going on with Doctor

602
00:37:13,480 –> 00:37:15,480
Nick?
Maybe or maybe not.

603
00:37:15,640 –> 00:37:20,520
Again, I will reiterate what I
said about this 2020 report at

604
00:37:20,520 –> 00:37:24,640
the top of the episode.
If Elvis died in 1977, this is

605
00:37:24,640 –> 00:37:28,360
probably just good journalism
that was aided in large part by

606
00:37:28,360 –> 00:37:31,040
questionable law enforcement
activities.

607
00:37:31,240 –> 00:37:36,280
If Elvis did cooperate with the
FBI on an investigation into a

608
00:37:36,280 –> 00:37:39,600
criminal syndicate called the
fraternity and then fake his

609
00:37:39,600 –> 00:37:42,400
death so he could join witness
protection, I think it’s at

610
00:37:42,400 –> 00:37:45,560
least possible that this 2020
report is a part of that.

611
00:37:45,680 –> 00:37:50,160
Because it certainly shifted all
of the public attention and

612
00:37:50,160 –> 00:37:54,800
controversy about a cover up in
Elvis’s death not to.

613
00:37:54,880 –> 00:37:58,120
Did he fake his death, which is
a thing people were also talking

614
00:37:58,120 –> 00:38:01,360
about a whole lot back when it
happened, But instead to no, no,

615
00:38:01,360 –> 00:38:04,200
no, no, we’re sure he died.
We just want to know how we

616
00:38:04,200 –> 00:38:07,240
disagree on how he died.
That’s definitely going to

617
00:38:07,400 –> 00:38:10,360
deflect the attention you want
it to deflect.

618
00:38:10,560 –> 00:38:14,200
And the best part is that we
will never, never, ever, ever,

619
00:38:14,320 –> 00:38:16,080
ever know.
I should mention that those

620
00:38:16,080 –> 00:38:19,040
tabloid articles out there that
claim to know what’s in the

621
00:38:19,040 –> 00:38:22,840
Elvis autopsy report, the quotes
in those come from a guy named

622
00:38:22,840 –> 00:38:26,320
Dan Warlick, who was chief
investigator for the Tennessee

623
00:38:26,320 –> 00:38:29,480
Office of the state Chief
Medical Examiner.

624
00:38:29,560 –> 00:38:32,440
Here’s a quote.
Presley’s chronic Constipation,

625
00:38:32,680 –> 00:38:35,800
the result of years of
prescription drug abuse and high

626
00:38:35,800 –> 00:38:39,920
fat, high cholesterol gorging,
brought on what’s known as

627
00:38:40,200 –> 00:38:44,280
Valsalva’s maneuver.
Put simply, the strain of

628
00:38:44,280 –> 00:38:48,760
attempting to defecate compress
the singer’s abdominal aorta,

629
00:38:49,080 –> 00:38:51,320
shutting down his heart.
End Quote.

630
00:38:51,480 –> 00:38:53,440
And oh, hey, look at that.
Everyone’s right.

631
00:38:53,600 –> 00:38:57,200
It was a heart attack caused by
Constipation, which was caused

632
00:38:57,200 –> 00:39:01,000
by drug abuse.
That’s if he really died, of

633
00:39:01,000 –> 00:39:03,080
course.
On next week’s episode, I’m

634
00:39:03,240 –> 00:39:07,080
going to wrap things up by
tagging GAIL Brewer Giorgio back

635
00:39:07,080 –> 00:39:12,000
in for the rubber match and
diving into her seriously hard

636
00:39:12,000 –> 00:39:15,840
to find 1997 book Elvis Is
Alive.

637
00:39:16,160 –> 00:39:19,280
It covers an FBI investigation
called Operation Fountain Pen

638
00:39:19,400 –> 00:39:23,840
and her suspicion that Elvis was
a cooperating witness in that

639
00:39:23,840 –> 00:39:27,160
investigation and faked his
death to join witness

640
00:39:27,160 –> 00:39:29,160
protection.
We already talked about it a

641
00:39:29,160 –> 00:39:32,640
little bit on an older episode
of the pod, where we also get

642
00:39:32,640 –> 00:39:36,280
into some of the various clues
and sightings over the years

643
00:39:36,720 –> 00:39:40,360
that point to Elvis maybe living
a little longer than we all

644
00:39:40,360 –> 00:39:42,320
thought.
Give that a listen to prep for

645
00:39:42,320 –> 00:39:45,160
next week’s Elvis finale.
If you want, I’ll link to it in

646
00:39:45,160 –> 00:39:47,200
the show notes.
And hey, that’s it.

647
00:39:47,320 –> 00:39:48,880
Thanks everybody.
We love you people of Earth.

648
00:39:48,880 –> 00:39:56,400
Your planet is about to be
destroyed.

649
00:39:56,640 –> 00:40:09,280
Your planet is about to
be destroyed.