Conspiracy! The Show 279: The 5 Most Suspicious Whistleblower Suicides (Since 2020)

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Welcome to Conspiracy the Show,
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Olivia Hydar.
Hey everybody.

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Welcome to Conspiracy the show.
I’m your host, Adam Todd Brown.

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Joining me is Co host.
This week we got a guest.

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Co host John Lewis is here.
How’s it going, John?

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All right.
What up though?

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Y’all.
I’m back.

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This is going to be an exciting
episode.

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We’re covering a story that is
all over the news right now, but

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John is the first person to have
messaged me about it.

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So here we are.
We’re talking about the Boeing

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whistleblower suicide.
People can’t see the air quotes.

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I just did.
But it’s this is a fishy story

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and.
Like, this story is a good gauge

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for how much of A bootlicker you
all If you don’t find this one

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suspicious, you just trust the
media and the government way too

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much.
Yeah, I absolutely agree with

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that.
And one of the stories that

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we’ll link to, there’s a lot of
people covering this right now.

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But the story we’re going to
link to is from a site called

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prospect.org.
Writer is named Maureen Kasich,

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Tuck Asich, something like that.
And I don’t mean to just single

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this article out, but I do think
it is a pretty good example of

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how the media tends to cover
stuff like this, where all of

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the details really do kind of
point to this being suspicious.

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But people are so reluctant.
We’re so concerned about being

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called a conspiracy theorist,
that they just have to interject

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at some point and be like, well,
I personally don’t think Boeing

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would commit this murder.
And it’s like, motherfucker,

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yeah, they would.
What are you talking about?

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Also, I’m just curious if that a
lot of that could have to do

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with being found liable, stuff
like that, you know, because

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they are writing for a big
corporation and stuff like that.

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Because, you know, our legal
system is a mess.

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It’s, you know, you.
I wouldn’t put it above Boeing

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to hit some reporter with a slap
lawsuit or something like that,

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you know?
Yeah, that wouldn’t surprise me

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at all.
So let’s talk about this story.

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The guy’s name was John Barnett.
He was a whistleblower at

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Boeing.
And what I really dislike about

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the article that we’ll link to
is, again, they point out all

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these things that seem to point
to murder and then she’s like,

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well, I don’t think Boeing would
have planned this murder because

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there’s all these other
whistleblowers in the same area

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and why not kill them also.
But then later in the article,

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they address their own concern
when they point out that unlike

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most whistleblowers who you get
fired and you just get escorted

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out of the building without
access to your files, John

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Barnett left Boeing with
everything.

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He kept meticulous records about
all of the claims he was making

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so he could prove that they were
true.

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So if you’re one of those
skeptics out there who’s going

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to push back with, OK, well,
there were a lot of Boeing

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whistleblowers and none of them
died, for one thing.

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That part part where he left
with documents.

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He didn’t just see shit.
He had shit.

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Yeah, this guy he knew where the
bodies, you know, figuratively

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speak.
He knows where the bodies are

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buried.
He got like the type of stuff

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that you can make entire
documentaries about instead of

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just some, you know, whatever
level person makes talking to

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the human resources or
something.

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This guy was, he was kind of OCD
with it, but probably turned,

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well, not probably.
He turned out to be right about

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everything also.
Yeah.

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And given what’s going on with
Boeing right now, he’s arguably

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the worst possible person that
could come forward, at least as

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far as Boeing is concerned,
because everything happening

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with them is surrounding claims
that they really cut their

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quality assurance standards
within their manufacturing

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plants.
And that’s the last thing you

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want when you’re building
machines that keep hundreds of

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people afloat in the sky.
And this guy, John Barnett was

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the head of the department that
oversaw the workers who built

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the planes.
So he was at the very top of the

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quality assurance chain.
And if anyone is going to know

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about what Boeing was getting up
to, it would be him.

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So I don’t care if there’s a lot
of other whistleblowers.

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This guy is the perfect target
for a murder in a situation like

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this.
Yeah.

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And with him being in that and
the notes he sent over Boeing

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was like, yeah, well, we don’t
really think the quality

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insurance department is that
important.

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That’s like the Police
Department saying, well, you

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know, we think we can cut down
on internal affairs.

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And for one, I don’t know if
this, if this exists in other

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countries, but it really seems
like jobs like this should be

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third party.
The company shouldn’t even be

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able to be in control of their
own quality assurance, because

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then they can just be like, Nah,
we’ll just look aside.

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And in this case, you can’t even
really trust the government to

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be the ones who step in and make
Boeing take responsibility for

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what they’ve done.
Because one of the other aspects

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of this Boeing scandal is that
the government, especially the

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Department of Justice, has
clearly been doing their best to

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keep Boeing from being
prosecuted or facing any

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consequences.
And it’s because Boeing isn’t

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just a private company.
It’s also a huge government

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contractor.
They make a lot of our weapons

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that we use to go to war.
They make our jets that we use

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to go to war.
So the government has been super

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lenient toward them.
So yeah, you’re right.

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It’s got to be some kind of
independent third party.

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It can’t just be, Oh well, the
government will step in and help

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us in this situation.
No, they won’t.

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No, they won’t.
Yeah.

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And also at that point, ideally
it could be the government, but

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when people have been saying
this for years, but corporations

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are the ones that run America.
So at that point, who do you

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even whistle blow to?
What?

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You got to go to the United
Nations, I guess.

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Like, yeah, who could he even
talk to?

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Because it’s a saying.
But the corporations literally

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do run America.
We see the news story every

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other week.
I think it was about this.

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Some person on the Supreme
Court, some high-ranking

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political person.
They sold all of their stock

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like a month before all of this
shit came out.

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It was only $50,000, but still.
Still, yeah, yeah, that’s shady.

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That’s really shady.
This.

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I put this in the notes and
people are going to have to bear

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with me while I explain this is
Jeffrey Epstein in The Sky

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Boeing.
It’s not the same kind of

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crimes, obviously, but you see
the same thing here that you saw

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with Jeffrey Epstein, where for
the longest time, the government

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either just ignored what was
happening or actively tried to

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avoid prosecution over what was
happening.

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And eventually they hit a point
where, all right, the news

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around this is too intense,
we’re going to have to take some

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kind of action.
And with Jeffrey Epstein, that

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meant he got this insane plea
deal where he just had to, I

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think guilty to misdemeanor and
he got house arrest.

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Even then, he didn’t stay at his
house and eventually his victims

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found out about that and they
sued the government because they

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were supposed to be informed if
the government reaches A plea

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deal.
And not only did the government

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not inform them, they reached
this plea deal that basically

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let him walk.
Same thing happened here, A

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Boeing 737 crashed five years
ago, killed everyone on board.

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There was a lot of talk about
the cause of that crash being

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Boeing’s shitty quality
standards, and there was a

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lawsuit filed and eventually the
government let Boeing off with

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what is called a deferred
prosecution agreement.

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And all that means is for the
next three years after hit

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Boeing with that Boeing was
required to comply with any

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government investigations.
That’s all the repercussions.

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Boeing got over this 737 crash
that killed hundreds of people

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and same thing.
The victims families found out

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and they sued the DOJ for access
to the files.

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That would explain this decision
to close the Boeing case.

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And they so far are not winning.
The government has done their

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best to keep that information
from coming out.

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And another thing I hate about
this prospect.org article which

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it is very informative, it tells
you everything you need to know

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about the John Barnett case.
But they also mentioned that

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they themselves just did an
article about all of the, and

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this is a quote incestuous links
between the lawyers responsible

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for that Epstein settlement and
the lawyers involved in this

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Boeing settlement.
And then they follow that up by

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calling anyone who might find
that weird.

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Conspiracy theorists?
Who the fuck wouldn’t find that

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weird?
Right.

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It’s weirder for them to put
that in there than to just say,

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I I don’t know, yeah, what other
conclusion Y’all expect people

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to come to?
And it’s not like this one isn’t

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even that big of a leap.
Literally everybody reading.

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It’s like, so yeah, they
definitely killed that guy,

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right?
Right.

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And so, yeah, those are
obviously the lawyers the

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government sends when they’re
trying to protect assets.

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Obviously, it doesn’t even seem
like a conspiracy theory.

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And that brings us to the next
part of the John Barnett story

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that makes him so different and
that makes it so likely that he

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could have been murdered after
that door blew off that 7:37

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earlier this year.
Things got really hot for the

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Department of Justice because
people, after they had really

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just let Boeing slide over this
737 crash five years ago that

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got brought back into the
spotlight after that door

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incident.
So then the Department of

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Justice probably very
begrudgingly opened an

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investigation into Boeing’s
culpability for that door

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mishap.
So everything John Barnett was

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talking about in this deposition
was being revealed in a much

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different climate than other
whistleblowers were working in.

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Now Boeing really is facing
government repercussions, and it

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makes it kind of the perfect
situation where a guy like this

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would be killed.
He has the receipts to prove his

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claims and oops, he shoots
himself in the head.

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A day before he was going to get
vindication, he had one more day

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of giving depositions, and then
the trial was set to start in

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June.
He had reached the fucking

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finish line and now he kills
himself, right?

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And some other smaller details
on those notes you sent over.

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Also, what Bowie had been doing
to save money is they moved one

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of their plants to is South
Carolina, right?

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Yeah.
They moved to.

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Yeah, a non union factory
because before they had union

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machinists and people that have
worked in union versus non union

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places may not really, I mean
that haven’t worked, may not

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know the difference in the union
plant.

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I worked in the union plant.
You have things set up X amount

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they can’t they have to give you
break.

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It’s more enforced.
Y’all can’t push us over this

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number.
So in that non union factory

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they probably were just working
with people like crazy.

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They may not have had this
people who have to check the

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quality and stuff because at
that point they’re more focused

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on, you know, profit as far and
instead of quality.

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And Boeing is probably like
pretty much every other company

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in this America is probably
owned by BlackRock or some other

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venture capital, you know, some
fun or something like that,

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where the whole thing is profit
instead of safety.

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Yeah.
You’re right, they were

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overworked.
And it’s one of the things John

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Barnett has, or John Barnett
said in his filings about

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Boeing.
Because his job was to oversee a

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team of quality assurance
inspectors who then oversaw the

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mechanics who were building the
planes, basically.

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And when he was working in, I
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they were before these people he
oversaw, they were responsible

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for overseeing a group of about
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Once they moved to South
Carolina, that went to about 50

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to 55 mechanics each.
Which mistakes are going to

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happen when you put that kind of
extra workload on people, but

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don’t expand the number of
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That’s common sense, yeah.
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Also things like that is why
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expensive because even if you
make a mistake as a non union

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worker you may be afraid to even
say something.

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But as far as opposed to a UAW
job, you know, you have an

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incentive to say, hey, we need
to stop the line or we did this

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or that and you know, yo, you
know, your job is the least

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protected.
To an extent, it’s the reason

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why Tesla’s have such bad
quality compared to all of these

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other brands.
Tesla’s aren’t union or they

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don’t have any union factories.
They’re I’m pretty sure they’re

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the only American car company
that’s not UAW.

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Unless it’s some of these other
small ones.

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But yeah, the UNW, it’s a
reason, you know, of course

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everybody has recalls, but it’s
a reason forwarding them has

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been in business for hundreds of
years, that protection.

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Yeah, it’s a thing we used to
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country.
It really was Reagan breaking

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that air traffic controller
strike in the 80s.

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Once he did that, that just
really got the ball rolling on

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gutting unions.
Oh yeah, in this country.

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What’s interesting is this
Boeing scandal also kind of

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reminds me of the Albuquerque
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The Albuquerque PD for the
longest time was one of the most

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violent police forces in America
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They killed more people than the
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which is shocking.
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that at one point they got all
this extra budget money to hire

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cops and no one wanted to be a
cop in Albuquerque because

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Albuquerque is a lawless
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And So what they started doing
was cutting their standards in

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terms of hiring.
And they put this rule in place

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where if you left your last cop
job in good standing, then they

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wouldn’t do a background check
if you applied at the

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Albuquerque PD.
They were just hired.

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And what they ended up getting
were a lot of cops who were

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dirty cops who were just like
allowed to leave their

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departments instead of being
fired.

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So there was nothing on their
record that showed they had been

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disciplined in any way.
So Albuquerque didn’t check and

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they got this one class of
recruits that were just unhinged

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fucking lunatics.
And with this story at Boeing,

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it’s not quite that.
But when they moved to South

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Carolina to get around the
machinist union, the thing about

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where they were before,
machinists would move there so

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they could work for Boeing,
because there was a union and it

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was a good job where they moved
to.

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In South Carolina, there weren’t
machinists.

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So they were hiring, according
to John Barnett’s words, people

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who were flipping burgers the
week before.

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And it was his job to train
these people to not only build

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planes, but also inspect the
people building planes nuts.

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Yeah, you’re not about to
relocate as a machinist to some

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other state with a non union
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You can just if I’m if I’m a
relocate, I’m a relocate with

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someone you know with a company
that has the best benefits and

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also to backtrack a little bit
that ABQ, the Albuquerque

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police, they got a whole another
scandal that’s actually still

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folding, that’s still coming out
because I just dropped.

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Yeah, I guess I early plugged
myself and I just dropped a new

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video about why police
corruption had never changed.

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And I was trying to look up that
story because I remember you

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talking about it years ago.
And Google was like, well, how

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about this?
We got a brand new story for you

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like 4-4 or five police and the
lawyer just got their homes

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raided by the FBI because they
had some DUI scandal going on.

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And it was so weird.
I had to read like three

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articles to find out because
it’s still detailed.

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So essentially what was
happening is they would pull

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people over for Duis and then
they had some deal with the

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judge where when it was time to
go to court, they would just not

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show up.
And I guess they were the judge

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was paying them.
But also because it is they just

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threw out 150 people DUI cases
because they wouldn’t say it in

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the article, but it sounds like
the police were like, hey,

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either you can pay me now or I’m
charged you for a DUI or

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something.
I couldn’t get all of the

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details because just literally
the raid literally happened a

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week or two as I was writing an
article.

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But yeah, so Albuquerque police,
they like that.

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They like one of those things
that you don’t expect to win the

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March Madness, but you know,
they they gonna come out of

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nowhere if we do, on the top
four worst police departments.

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They got a good chance of
winning it, yeah.

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Albuquerque would be way up
there.

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It’s crazy.
And so, yeah, back to Boeing,

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This John Barnett guy, he voiced
all of these complaints and

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concerns and was just ignored.
And then that 737 crashed five

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years ago and lots of people
died.

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And now John Barnett is dead
too.

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And and if you don’t think that
is suspicious, you are the

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government.
This is so, so suspicious.

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And if you will link two
articles about this, if you read

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deeper into it, there are people
who knew John Barnett.

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His lawyers talk in these
articles and they’re all like,

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man, he was right at the finish
line.

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He was about to get vindication
for everything he’d been saying

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all these years.
It makes no sense that he would

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commit suicide.
He was doing this deposition he

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had, apparently, the first day.
It went really well.

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Second day, it didn’t go that
great.

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They took a break or they broke
for the day.

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At 6:00 PM they were going to
come back.

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The next morning.
John Barnett left, went to a

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Taco Bell drive through, as one
does if you’re about to commit

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suicide, then went to his hotel.
His lawyers are trying to call.

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They can’t reach him and they
ask someone at the hotel to go

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check and that’s when they find
him dead.

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So soon after he bought Taco
Bell that there was still

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condensation on his cup.
And here’s.

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How did they say he committed
suicide again?

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Shot himself in the head so.
Nobody put from the Nobody in

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the hotel heard a loud ass
gunshot to call the police while

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they were looking for this man.
What?

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They claim is that it was
raining and so they get the.

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Hell out of here.
Yeah.

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We’ve heard it couldn’t have
been raining that hard to muffle

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a gunshot in a hotel room.
Yeah, Yeah.

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I think he was actually in his
truck, which would have made it

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even easier to hear.
Yeah.

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And yeah, yeah, I think this guy
was murdered doesn’t.

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I mean, it’s.
Yeah.

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Murder.
One of those cases where a

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forced suicide they like either
you do this or it’s going to be

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your family or something like
that, you know, which is

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basically SUIC.
What?

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Second degree suicide?
I don’t know what you would call

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that, but yeah.
Yeah, in it.

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This is a thing.
I always think of this kind of

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stuff when people are like, oh,
Russia murders journalists.

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I don’t know how many people saw
the title of this episode, but

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it’s the five most suspicious
whistleblower deaths since 2020.

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This is all just within the past
four years that all of these

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people who have come forward and
said that something was going

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on, no matter what, they were
reporting on all these people.

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Turn up dead from suicide and.
Also, he had Russia murders

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journalist, but so does
American.

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Also civil rights activist, So
yeah.

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Yeah, absolutely.
And even with the Russia thing,

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we immediately, especially in
the media, we always jump right

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to.
Well, Putin murders journalists,

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and I don’t know that the
government would have killed

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John Barnett, but I could see
rich people with a vested

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interest in Boeing having John
Barnett killed in the same thing

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in Russia.
Sometimes it might be Putin, but

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sometimes it’s just fucking
oligarchs that some

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investigative reporter got on
the wrong side of, and then they

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have them killed.
Yeah, I mean, we know, like I

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said, in America, the
corporations run it.

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We got, we have countless
examples of corrupt police

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youth, stuff like this.
You know, it’s not like it’s not

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exactly a Tom Clancy book or
something like that.

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One of these things happen.
It’s been happening forever.

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Yeah I’m probably if we’re doing
a rankings I probably only only

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person I could see that’s that’s
believes more real.

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I would say I believe that
probably the most more the most

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realistic conspiracies.
After you I was going to say

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what’s the name, but also the
whole John Lennon thing is

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ridiculous.
So which?

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Part of it that he’s.
A clone.

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I don’t believe a single is.
That, yeah.

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I can get in a mixed up, Yeah.
Whose conspiracy is that?

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I.
Mean.

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That’s a conspiracy that’s been
around since the 60s.

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It’s Kim Krall.
That super duper.

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Yeah.
Kim Krall, I was going to say

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she might be the only person.
I think that believes more

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conspiracies, but I think I
believe the most realistic ones,

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because that’s that’s still one
of the funniest episodes ever

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heard in this network.
The whole talking point is who

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makes up rumors?
What?

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Everybody, and especially bored
people in college?

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Yeah.
All right, this next one.

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Valentine Brookschmidt.
This one, I feel like I’d

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probably heard of it and just
forgot.

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But back when Trump was in
office, one of the myriad

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investigations into his behavior
included one that involved his

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relationship with Deutsch Bank,
which is a German bank.

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They were his lender of choice
for years and years and years,

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and as various investigations
into them revealed, they were

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also essentially a criminal
organization for years and years

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and years probably still are.
I’m sure they just paid a fine

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and got to keep doing it.
But among the misdeeds, they

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were accused of manipulating
markets, evading taxes, bribing

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foreign officials, violating
international sanctions,

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defrauding customers and
laundering money for Russian

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billionaires.
Otherwise known as a regular

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bank, yeah.
So just a straight up bank makes

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sense why Trump made them his
Bank of choice.

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Criminals are probably by that
point the only ones who would

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loan money to Trump.
I know a lot of banks in the US,

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way before he became president,
had stopped giving Trump money,

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’cause he doesn’t pay it back.
Yeah, he because Trump, by this

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time he was basically the wash
up NBA player.

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He’s good enough to go play in
Europe or Greece or something,

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just not the NBA.
And that’s basically what his

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bank was.
You can make good money, but

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you’re not NBA quality.
So he had to go find because

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what they listed things they did
is chase pretty much every other

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bank in America I’m sure is
doing it.

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They just were like, yeah, we’re
not going with Trump.

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As things were unravelling
around Deutsche Bank, a senior

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executive there, Bill broke.
Schmidt committed suicide by

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hanging.
And shockingly, that is not what

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we are here to talk about,
although there was a highly

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suspicious string of deaths
among people involved in that

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investigation.
But after his death?

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A treasure trove of internal
Deutsche Bank documents fell

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into the hands of his son,
Valentine Brooke Schmidt, and

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this included files involving
Deutsche Bank’s relationship

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with Trump.
And I think Valentin’s failing.

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Here was it seemed like he
didn’t just want to be a

439
00:24:27,440 –> 00:24:30,600
whistleblower, he wanted to be a
celebrity about it.

440
00:24:30,960 –> 00:24:33,880
Exactly.
I put in my notes it it’s like

441
00:24:33,880 –> 00:24:37,240
he was planning his Disney trip
before the Super Bowl even

442
00:24:37,240 –> 00:24:42,120
started.
Like, dude, you doing victory

443
00:24:42,120 –> 00:24:43,960
laps?
Why don’t you put it out?

444
00:24:43,960 –> 00:24:46,280
Who the hell does an interview
before you?

445
00:24:46,280 –> 00:24:48,400
Whistleblow.
I’m going to be the next

446
00:24:48,400 –> 00:24:51,240
American whistleblower.
They’re going to make movies and

447
00:24:51,240 –> 00:24:55,400
documentaries about me.
That’s a quote, he said.

448
00:24:55,400 –> 00:24:59,680
That I want to know the next
Great American whistleblower.

449
00:24:59,920 –> 00:25:02,520
That’s not a thing, dude.
Like who?

450
00:25:02,920 –> 00:25:05,520
Who was the first American
whistleblower?

451
00:25:06,200 –> 00:25:09,000
Can’t you think of nobody?
I mean, I hear the guy that told

452
00:25:09,000 –> 00:25:12,600
about the CIA smuggling coke,
but still, yeah.

453
00:25:12,600 –> 00:25:14,280
Gary Webb.
Daniel Ellsberg.

454
00:25:14,280 –> 00:25:16,520
The guy who published the
Pentagon Papers?

455
00:25:16,520 –> 00:25:18,760
Maybe they not.
Exactly famous, yeah.

456
00:25:20,120 –> 00:25:23,680
They don’t have shoe contracts.
They’re just dead.

457
00:25:25,200 –> 00:25:28,560
Right, Honestly, this guy was
asking for it the most it.

458
00:25:28,800 –> 00:25:30,880
Really was when you.
Whistle blow.

459
00:25:31,000 –> 00:25:33,600
It’s supposed to come out and
then we find out about you.

460
00:25:33,600 –> 00:25:36,440
We are supposed to know about
you counting down like that shit

461
00:25:36,440 –> 00:25:39,360
is a album drop.
All right, 1201, man, I’m

462
00:25:39,360 –> 00:25:42,000
staying up tonight for that new
Whistleblower album and.

463
00:25:42,000 –> 00:25:45,040
He really did.
He there’s in 2019, there was

464
00:25:45,040 –> 00:25:49,560
this huge story about him in the
New York Times.

465
00:25:49,680 –> 00:25:53,240
And it’s like, dude, look into
the New York Times relationship

466
00:25:53,240 –> 00:25:55,600
with the government.
You’re sort of talking to the

467
00:25:55,600 –> 00:26:00,200
government already when you’re
talking to the New York Times.

468
00:26:00,280 –> 00:26:03,560
And he’s doing all this while
Trump is in office.

469
00:26:03,680 –> 00:26:07,760
So Trump is the government at
the point he does this New York

470
00:26:07,760 –> 00:26:11,720
Times article.
And he yeah, he talks about how

471
00:26:11,760 –> 00:26:15,480
when his dad died, he got all of
these files and everyone knew he

472
00:26:15,480 –> 00:26:18,520
had these files.
Adam Schiff reached out to him

473
00:26:18,520 –> 00:26:21,800
at one point.
The FBI reached out to him, and

474
00:26:21,960 –> 00:26:26,520
in this interview he talks about
the FBI wanting him to be a

475
00:26:26,520 –> 00:26:29,400
whistleblower and how excited he
is to do it.

476
00:26:29,680 –> 00:26:31,800
And then he goes missing for a
year.

477
00:26:32,520 –> 00:26:35,480
Yeah, almost a year to the date,
exactly, yeah.

478
00:26:35,520 –> 00:26:39,880
He what there was a couple of
years I think in between that

479
00:26:39,880 –> 00:26:43,280
profile and when he goes missing
because the profile I think came

480
00:26:43,280 –> 00:26:46,680
out in 2019 and he went missing
in 2021.

481
00:26:46,680 –> 00:26:49,840
But he’s he just goes missing.
And I don’t know whatever came

482
00:26:50,120 –> 00:26:54,800
of his Deutsche Bank information
seems like not much, if anything

483
00:26:54,800 –> 00:26:58,680
at all.
But he goes missing in 2021 in

484
00:26:58,720 –> 00:27:03,600
LA and then turns up, like you
said, almost a year to the day

485
00:27:03,600 –> 00:27:08,880
later, dead on the campus of a
California high school called

486
00:27:09,200 –> 00:27:12,080
Woodrow Wilson High School in
El.

487
00:27:12,160 –> 00:27:14,080
The way they wrote it, it’s El
Sereno.

488
00:27:14,080 –> 00:27:18,080
I don’t know if it’s actually El
Sereno, but California and that

489
00:27:18,080 –> 00:27:23,240
was reported in late April of
2022 and I could not find shit

490
00:27:23,240 –> 00:27:28,320
else about the story after that,
which I find that suspicious

491
00:27:28,320 –> 00:27:32,160
given his manner of death.
The only other thing I found is

492
00:27:32,160 –> 00:27:35,760
the writer who did that original
New York Times article

493
00:27:35,920 –> 00:27:40,240
eventually tweeted out the
medical examiner’s report that

494
00:27:40,240 –> 00:27:44,880
said this guy died of blunt
force trauma to the abdomen, but

495
00:27:44,880 –> 00:27:48,120
that there was nothing
suspicious about his death.

496
00:27:48,400 –> 00:27:49,840
How does?
That even happen and.

497
00:27:49,840 –> 00:27:53,120
I saw a thing that said he spent
the weekend alone at that high

498
00:27:53,120 –> 00:27:55,440
school before he died.
It’s like, what?

499
00:27:56,040 –> 00:27:58,640
And the thing about him going
missing, people were still in

500
00:27:58,640 –> 00:28:01,600
contact with him.
His lawyer had talked to him in

501
00:28:01,600 –> 00:28:04,440
January of that year.
His family had talked to him,

502
00:28:04,440 –> 00:28:07,800
but just no one knew where he
was, apparently.

503
00:28:07,880 –> 00:28:11,160
And then he turns up dead at a
high school in California.

504
00:28:11,160 –> 00:28:14,480
And that is the end of the
story, as far as I can tell.

505
00:28:14,840 –> 00:28:18,320
And what sucks the most about
him is kind of died for no

506
00:28:18,320 –> 00:28:20,760
reason, because I think he
greatly underestimated how

507
00:28:20,760 –> 00:28:23,480
strong the political cult of
Trump is.

508
00:28:23,480 –> 00:28:26,320
Because even if all this stuff
came out, he was already

509
00:28:26,320 –> 00:28:27,520
president.
It’s not like the people were

510
00:28:27,520 –> 00:28:30,440
going to be like, oh man, he was
working with the Russians, I

511
00:28:30,440 –> 00:28:31,680
guess I’m not going to vote for
him.

512
00:28:31,920 –> 00:28:34,440
It’s been proven.
New information doesn’t change.

513
00:28:34,440 –> 00:28:38,280
It needs people’s mind.
Yeah, we knew by that point that

514
00:28:38,320 –> 00:28:41,560
it was going to take more than
just a regular ass scandal to

515
00:28:41,560 –> 00:28:45,480
take Trump down.
And this was kind of just a

516
00:28:45,480 –> 00:28:48,080
regular ass, yeah?
This scandal, this might have

517
00:28:48,080 –> 00:28:50,800
just been like a petty murder,
just because if it was a

518
00:28:50,840 –> 00:28:53,800
suicide, it’s like it really
wasn’t going to change anything

519
00:28:53,800 –> 00:28:54,920
anyway.
Yeah.

520
00:28:55,000 –> 00:29:00,440
And there are people interviewed
in the articles we’ll link to

521
00:29:00,440 –> 00:29:05,560
who are really bothered by the
insinuation that he might have

522
00:29:05,560 –> 00:29:09,520
been murdered.
And one thing I noted about that

523
00:29:09,520 –> 00:29:14,520
is it wasn’t family or friends.
It was reporters he had talk to

524
00:29:14,520 –> 00:29:18,720
in the course of all this, and
that doesn’t do anything to make

525
00:29:18,720 –> 00:29:21,680
me feel better about what
happened to him.

526
00:29:21,760 –> 00:29:28,280
We’ve done episodes before about
CIA influence on the media.

527
00:29:28,360 –> 00:29:33,040
We know that the government can,
when needed, pull the right

528
00:29:33,040 –> 00:29:37,040
strings to get the media to say
what they want them to say.

529
00:29:37,080 –> 00:29:41,120
I feel like most governments are
able to do that, Ours

530
00:29:41,280 –> 00:29:44,720
especially.
And yeah, some reporter, he gave

531
00:29:44,720 –> 00:29:48,120
us information to being like,
oh, in my part of the conspiracy

532
00:29:48,120 –> 00:29:49,640
now too.
I don’t know, man.

533
00:29:49,640 –> 00:29:52,000
Maybe.
Maybe.

534
00:29:52,760 –> 00:29:56,520
But also, who the hell dies of
blunt force to the abdomen at a

535
00:29:56,520 –> 00:29:57,720
high school?
Yeah.

536
00:29:57,720 –> 00:30:02,600
What the fuck happened?
And just tell us what happened.

537
00:30:02,720 –> 00:30:03,880
I was.
He I.

538
00:30:03,880 –> 00:30:06,680
Could not find a single other
article that was like, hey,

539
00:30:06,800 –> 00:30:08,600
follow up, here’s how this guy
died.

540
00:30:08,720 –> 00:30:11,760
Practicing the bad ass kick
flipping fell on the rail.

541
00:30:11,760 –> 00:30:13,600
How was he?
Virtual abdomen at a high

542
00:30:13,600 –> 00:30:16,480
school.
And presumably outside.

543
00:30:16,480 –> 00:30:20,000
He was found outdoors, so it
wasn’t even in the high school.

544
00:30:20,000 –> 00:30:22,000
He was just fucking around on
the campus.

545
00:30:22,280 –> 00:30:25,520
I don’t get it.
It’s weird and I truly could not

546
00:30:25,520 –> 00:30:29,000
find a ton of follow up.
That said, let me tell you,

547
00:30:29,240 –> 00:30:34,120
finding four other suspicious
whistleblower deaths on the

548
00:30:34,120 –> 00:30:37,160
Internet right after a
suspicious whistleblower death

549
00:30:37,240 –> 00:30:39,840
has happened is such a fucking
challenge.

550
00:30:40,320 –> 00:30:44,360
Every result was just about John
Barnett and I would scroll and

551
00:30:44,360 –> 00:30:47,560
scroll and scroll and then it’d
be like Sacramento prison.

552
00:30:47,640 –> 00:30:49,680
Oh, OK, that’s a new one, but
man.

553
00:30:49,680 –> 00:30:51,560
You got to learn to use Reddit,
that’s why.

554
00:30:51,880 –> 00:30:56,040
Yeah, I suppose.
But I feel like if I use Reddit,

555
00:30:56,040 –> 00:30:57,720
I’m going to get people’s
opinions too.

556
00:30:58,240 –> 00:31:01,080
Oh yeah, it’s probably it might
just be a good way to source it.

557
00:31:01,080 –> 00:31:02,280
And then you go search them.
Go.

558
00:31:02,440 –> 00:31:04,400
Next time just go to the
conspiracy.

559
00:31:04,400 –> 00:31:05,560
I’m pretty sure it’s a
conspiracy.

560
00:31:05,560 –> 00:31:07,480
Celebrated and type
whistleblower.

561
00:31:07,480 –> 00:31:09,200
See what comes up.
Oh yeah.

562
00:31:09,680 –> 00:31:13,640
I do that on Wikipedia.
Sometimes when I need topics for

563
00:31:13,640 –> 00:31:16,320
this show, I’ll just search
conspiracy and see what it

564
00:31:16,320 –> 00:31:20,120
fucking tells me.
So Philip Haney, let’s let’s

565
00:31:20,120 –> 00:31:22,480
hear it from the right wingers
listening to this.

566
00:31:22,640 –> 00:31:24,880
This is your moment.
We’re going to talk about one of

567
00:31:25,200 –> 00:31:29,400
your suspicious suicides, The
death of Philip Haney.

568
00:31:29,440 –> 00:31:32,760
This is a weird one.
He was a former Department of

569
00:31:32,760 –> 00:31:36,680
Homeland Security official
turned whistleblower who wrote a

570
00:31:36,680 –> 00:31:42,280
whole entire book about how the
Obama administration failed to

571
00:31:42,280 –> 00:31:46,200
protect America from terrorist
threats, but also allowed those

572
00:31:46,200 –> 00:31:49,720
threats to infiltrate the
highest levels of government.

573
00:31:49,880 –> 00:31:53,440
His book was called See
Something, Say Nothing.

574
00:31:54,000 –> 00:31:58,040
He was found dead from a single
gunshot wound to the head next

575
00:31:58,040 –> 00:32:02,320
to his car in a park and ride
lot a few miles from his home on

576
00:32:02,400 –> 00:32:05,960
February 21st, 2020.
The fact that he wrote this book

577
00:32:05,960 –> 00:32:09,080
makes me think he was not
murdered by the government also.

578
00:32:09,080 –> 00:32:12,120
My question is okay.
So did we even have any

579
00:32:12,120 –> 00:32:14,200
terrorist attacks?
What do you mean they failed to

580
00:32:14,200 –> 00:32:15,520
prevent him?
It sound like they did their

581
00:32:15,520 –> 00:32:18,640
job.
Yeah, that’s always the hallmark

582
00:32:18,640 –> 00:32:22,480
of a really shady conspiracy
theory is, well, what?

583
00:32:22,480 –> 00:32:25,720
To what end?
Did the Obama administration do

584
00:32:25,720 –> 00:32:26,800
this?
Because you’re right, there

585
00:32:26,800 –> 00:32:32,160
weren’t any terrorist attacks
within our borders during the

586
00:32:32,200 –> 00:32:36,520
Obama administration.
And it seems like his complaints

587
00:32:36,520 –> 00:32:40,320
actually start with the Bush
administration and even to the

588
00:32:40,320 –> 00:32:46,320
point that he says, I I read a
quote from just a write up about

589
00:32:46,320 –> 00:32:52,200
his book and he says by the time
Obama got to office, the Muslim

590
00:32:52,200 –> 00:32:55,920
Brotherhood was already
infiltrating the government.

591
00:32:56,560 –> 00:32:59,520
And it’s like well that implies
that it was George Bush’s fault

592
00:32:59,920 –> 00:33:03,680
and Obama just kind of inherited
it, like so many other things,

593
00:33:03,680 –> 00:33:06,600
right Wingers blamed on Obama.
Yeah.

594
00:33:06,600 –> 00:33:09,880
And also infiltrating to do what
what is actually what did what

595
00:33:09,880 –> 00:33:13,480
was supposed to be stopped.
Because if it’s if it’s argument

596
00:33:13,480 –> 00:33:17,320
was domestic terrorists have
infiltrated the government.

597
00:33:17,680 –> 00:33:20,760
I’ll believe that because I was
just reading a book not that

598
00:33:20,760 –> 00:33:24,240
long ago that they tried to warn
the FBI, they were like, hey,

599
00:33:24,240 –> 00:33:26,560
just so you know, white
supremacists are infiltrating

600
00:33:26,560 –> 00:33:28,520
police departments all across
America.

601
00:33:28,520 –> 00:33:30,560
And they were like, Nah, that’s
not possible.

602
00:33:30,760 –> 00:33:33,680
Test that out.
And, I mean, it’s they really

603
00:33:33,680 –> 00:33:36,960
don’t need to infiltrate it when
the history of policing is white

604
00:33:36,960 –> 00:33:39,040
supremacy.
But yeah, he’s saying

605
00:33:39,360 –> 00:33:41,920
terrorists.
Look at who controls the police,

606
00:33:41,920 –> 00:33:45,400
the FBI, the CIA.
That’s home grown shit.

607
00:33:45,680 –> 00:33:47,600
They don’t need to infiltrate.
Yeah.

608
00:33:48,280 –> 00:33:51,680
And white supremacists
infiltrating the police, like

609
00:33:51,680 –> 00:33:54,640
you said, that’s just people
getting jobs as cops.

610
00:33:54,840 –> 00:33:59,080
You’re kind of upholding white
supremacy, just joining most

611
00:33:59,080 –> 00:34:02,480
police forces.
And so yeah, I think that would

612
00:34:02,480 –> 00:34:05,600
be the reason why police
officials don’t do shit about

613
00:34:05,600 –> 00:34:07,680
it, ’cause they’re mostly a
bunch of fucking white

614
00:34:07,680 –> 00:34:10,080
supremacists themselves.
Yeah, and they protect

615
00:34:10,080 –> 00:34:13,440
themselves.
So what did he say to Muslim

616
00:34:13,440 –> 00:34:16,800
Brotherhood was doing with
making people’s diet healthier?

617
00:34:16,800 –> 00:34:20,320
I guess, Yeah.
I actually kind of want to read

618
00:34:20,320 –> 00:34:25,920
the book because there aren’t a
lot of specifics out there in

619
00:34:26,000 –> 00:34:29,280
the various articles and things
about it in terms of what his

620
00:34:29,280 –> 00:34:34,320
actual complaints are.
I did see that he sort of starts

621
00:34:34,320 –> 00:34:39,880
it with George W Bush and says
the problem was that George Bush

622
00:34:39,920 –> 00:34:48,360
defined the enemy as terrorism
and not as Islam, which to me, I

623
00:34:48,360 –> 00:34:51,159
hear that and I’m like, oh, so
you’re racist?

624
00:34:52,440 –> 00:34:56,040
Exactly right.
Like, what do you mean?

625
00:34:56,159 –> 00:34:58,480
Like what?
So you mad?

626
00:34:58,480 –> 00:35:00,920
Did they not?
The government isn’t racist

627
00:35:00,920 –> 00:35:03,040
enough.
Yeah, this kind of just sounds

628
00:35:03,040 –> 00:35:06,080
like some shit, right?
Winger thought up because they

629
00:35:06,080 –> 00:35:08,520
thought Obama was Muslim or some
shit like that.

630
00:35:08,600 –> 00:35:09,960
I would.
Say so, yeah.

631
00:35:10,200 –> 00:35:13,160
So I’m interested to see what
his specific claims are.

632
00:35:13,160 –> 00:35:15,560
I’ll probably read his book just
to see.

633
00:35:15,560 –> 00:35:20,000
But this guy won the government.
He got away with writing the

634
00:35:20,000 –> 00:35:24,160
book, So what reasoning would
they have to have killed him

635
00:35:24,160 –> 00:35:26,400
four years after that book came
out?

636
00:35:26,440 –> 00:35:32,800
But also, he left a note that he
taped to the dashboard of his

637
00:35:32,800 –> 00:35:34,920
car.
He was found next to his car,

638
00:35:35,000 –> 00:35:39,640
but he also left a meticulous
set of documents at his home,

639
00:35:39,720 –> 00:35:44,120
explaining how he wanted his
possessions distributed in his

640
00:35:44,120 –> 00:35:47,240
assets and how to access them.
And all that.

641
00:35:47,480 –> 00:35:52,160
That feels like suicide to me.
That’s a lot of work for a

642
00:35:52,160 –> 00:35:57,200
staged suicide, I think.
Yeah, and this guy didn’t seem

643
00:35:57,200 –> 00:36:01,120
to make out a a serious case.
Or maybe he was upset his book

644
00:36:01,120 –> 00:36:04,200
didn’t get bought by Vice and
turned into a documentary or

645
00:36:04,200 –> 00:36:05,240
something.
Maybe.

646
00:36:07,240 –> 00:36:10,240
And also his neighbors said he
seemed depressed.

647
00:36:10,240 –> 00:36:13,840
He gave all his plants away to
one of his neighbors right

648
00:36:13,840 –> 00:36:16,000
before he died, Which?
Yeah.

649
00:36:16,000 –> 00:36:18,520
That kind of sounds like
somebody that’s on their way

650
00:36:18,520 –> 00:36:22,480
out, because, yeah.
Yeah, a lot of that makes it

651
00:36:22,480 –> 00:36:25,280
seem like he really did commit
suicide.

652
00:36:25,360 –> 00:36:30,280
That said, after he died, an FBI
analysis of his computer and a

653
00:36:30,280 –> 00:36:32,720
bunch of thumb drives determined
that quote.

654
00:36:32,720 –> 00:36:36,640
Many documents found are the
property of the US Customs and

655
00:36:36,640 –> 00:36:40,840
Border Protection, and Customs
and Border Protection demanded

656
00:36:40,840 –> 00:36:42,720
to have those documents
returned.

657
00:36:42,720 –> 00:36:46,080
They called them contraband
documents and the local

658
00:36:46,080 –> 00:36:50,000
Sheriff’s Office complied.
So I guess we will never know

659
00:36:50,040 –> 00:36:52,480
what’s in those files.
I don’t like that part.

660
00:36:52,560 –> 00:36:56,720
Also, the gun that was used,
they said was traced to him as

661
00:36:56,720 –> 00:37:00,040
the owner, but they actually
traced it to the person it was

662
00:37:00,040 –> 00:37:03,000
registered to.
And he said he was a friend of

663
00:37:03,000 –> 00:37:05,840
this guy and sold him the gun a
few years ago.

664
00:37:05,920 –> 00:37:10,560
So that’s kind of tracing the
gun to him, but not really,

665
00:37:10,720 –> 00:37:15,160
because we just have that guy’s
word that he sold this gun to

666
00:37:15,160 –> 00:37:17,920
Philippine.
Yeah, but this one seems at

667
00:37:17,920 –> 00:37:20,680
least plausible.
Sound like just a nutty guy who

668
00:37:20,680 –> 00:37:25,160
was upset that America wasn’t
outwardly racist enough?

669
00:37:25,160 –> 00:37:26,200
I guess.
I I don’t know.

670
00:37:26,760 –> 00:37:29,760
It yeah, it does sound like
that, because then the question

671
00:37:29,760 –> 00:37:31,760
is, So what?
You want to ban Islam, right?

672
00:37:33,640 –> 00:37:35,640
Yeah, that’s what I’m thinking.
What what did you want the end

673
00:37:35,640 –> 00:37:37,160
game to be?
Ban Islam?

674
00:37:37,800 –> 00:37:40,760
That’s going to be tricky.
Talk about something that will

675
00:37:40,760 –> 00:37:43,720
start a jihad in this country,
probably.

676
00:37:43,720 –> 00:37:46,800
That, and what do you mean
infiltrated outside of Rasheeda

677
00:37:46,800 –> 00:37:48,080
to leave?
And I only know about her

678
00:37:48,080 –> 00:37:50,640
because I live in Michigan.
It’s not like it’s a bunch of

679
00:37:50,880 –> 00:37:54,360
Middle Eastern or Muslim
politicians in America anyway,

680
00:37:54,520 –> 00:37:56,160
yeah.
I mean, unless he’s talking

681
00:37:56,160 –> 00:37:59,240
about Saudi Arabia, which I
guarantee he’s not, we’re never

682
00:37:59,240 –> 00:38:02,920
talking about Saudi Arabia when
it comes to stuff like this.

683
00:38:03,400 –> 00:38:06,040
So who knows?
I’ll check out the book, We’ll

684
00:38:06,040 –> 00:38:08,680
see how it goes.
But yeah, the fact that he wrote

685
00:38:08,680 –> 00:38:12,320
the book makes me feel like he
did not commit suicide.

686
00:38:12,320 –> 00:38:14,000
I feel the same way about Gary
Webb.

687
00:38:14,200 –> 00:38:17,200
That’s the guy who broke the
story about the CIA selling

688
00:38:17,200 –> 00:38:19,840
crack.
They did such a good job killing

689
00:38:19,840 –> 00:38:23,560
him in the media after that
story came out.

690
00:38:23,840 –> 00:38:25,280
They didn’t need to kill that
guy.

691
00:38:25,360 –> 00:38:29,360
Just look at what has happened
since that story came out.

692
00:38:29,440 –> 00:38:32,160
Nothing.
That is arguably the hugest

693
00:38:32,160 –> 00:38:36,640
possible scandal in this country
and nothing came of that shit.

694
00:38:36,720 –> 00:38:40,040
So something.
Came of it more billion dollar

695
00:38:40,040 –> 00:38:42,960
prison industry.
But yeah, no, nothing came from

696
00:38:42,960 –> 00:38:46,120
the government.
No repercussions for the

697
00:38:46,120 –> 00:38:47,280
government, but.
Yeah.

698
00:38:47,640 –> 00:38:50,080
And at that level what they they
like what you want us to do

699
00:38:50,120 –> 00:38:53,560
discipline ourselves, we had to
fund the Contras.

700
00:38:53,560 –> 00:38:55,120
What you talking about?
Exactly.

701
00:38:55,120 –> 00:38:57,000
And fill those private prisons,
right?

702
00:38:57,080 –> 00:39:00,880
Right.
I honestly think Gary Webb, when

703
00:39:00,880 –> 00:39:05,880
he killed himself, was trying to
make it look like the CIA did it

704
00:39:06,000 –> 00:39:10,080
because he shot himself twice.
And the first time was just

705
00:39:10,080 –> 00:39:14,440
through his cheek, which I do
wonder if he was like, when

706
00:39:14,440 –> 00:39:17,000
people find me, they’re going to
be like, wait, he shot himself

707
00:39:17,000 –> 00:39:19,520
twice?
The CIA must have done it when

708
00:39:19,680 –> 00:39:21,080
you could definitely shoot
yourself.

709
00:39:21,080 –> 00:39:23,920
I’ve seen, I saw an Internet
video of guys shoot himself in

710
00:39:23,920 –> 00:39:26,480
the fucking cheek once.
Open your mouth wide enough.

711
00:39:26,480 –> 00:39:28,520
That bullet, it’s just going to
hit your fucking cheek.

712
00:39:28,520 –> 00:39:30,240
You’re not going to die.
Then you shoot yourself in the

713
00:39:30,240 –> 00:39:31,840
head.
Looks like you got shot twice.

714
00:39:32,160 –> 00:39:34,840
And now we all think the CIA
killed Gary Webb.

715
00:39:34,840 –> 00:39:39,280
But in this one fucking
instance, I think they probably

716
00:39:39,280 –> 00:39:41,360
did not.
Yeah, because at that point,

717
00:39:41,360 –> 00:39:43,720
it’s like the people that don’t
believe me anyway.

718
00:39:43,720 –> 00:39:45,640
It’s nothing that’s going to
change your mind anyway.

719
00:39:45,960 –> 00:39:48,240
Oh no.
Black folks just all of a sudden

720
00:39:48,240 –> 00:39:52,880
got access to connections in
Nicaragua boats to bring kilos

721
00:39:52,880 –> 00:39:55,480
of coke that no way the
government could have did that.

722
00:39:55,920 –> 00:39:58,200
No, no.
Yeah, you just drive down to

723
00:39:58,200 –> 00:40:01,360
Nicaragua, pick that shit up,
bring it back to Detroit.

724
00:40:01,960 –> 00:40:06,160
So let’s switch gears a bit and
talk about a few whistleblowers

725
00:40:06,160 –> 00:40:08,880
who weren’t targeting the
federal government when they

726
00:40:08,880 –> 00:40:10,960
died.
This first one’s pretty crazy.

727
00:40:11,040 –> 00:40:14,160
Kevin Steele?
Yes, 56 at the time.

728
00:40:14,200 –> 00:40:19,040
When he died, he was a prison
guard who made some pretty

729
00:40:19,040 –> 00:40:23,440
inflammatory claims about
California State Prison in

730
00:40:23,440 –> 00:40:28,120
Sacramento, according to Steele.
And you could knock me over with

731
00:40:28,120 –> 00:40:31,760
a feather when I heard this.
So shocking to hear about

732
00:40:31,760 –> 00:40:35,040
corrections officers, but
according to his claims, they

733
00:40:35,040 –> 00:40:39,760
had fake documents, implanted
drugs and weapons on inmates to

734
00:40:39,760 –> 00:40:42,480
obtain more overtime pay.
What they would do is near the

735
00:40:42,480 –> 00:40:46,720
end of their shift, just plant
drugs on someone, go in, find

736
00:40:46,720 –> 00:40:49,880
the drugs and be like, oh, I got
to stay a few hours late tonight

737
00:40:49,880 –> 00:40:52,680
to write this report and they
would get overtime for that.

738
00:40:52,880 –> 00:40:56,400
For that, they were willing to
just ruin lives even further

739
00:40:56,480 –> 00:40:58,560
than they were already ruined by
being in prison.

740
00:40:58,680 –> 00:41:01,760
He also alleged that guards
would spread false rumors about

741
00:41:01,760 –> 00:41:05,920
inmates and relay details from
inmate files to other inmates,

742
00:41:06,040 –> 00:41:10,400
and claimed that on at least two
occasions guards were directly

743
00:41:10,400 –> 00:41:14,160
involved in the killing of a
Sacramento inmate.

744
00:41:14,360 –> 00:41:17,960
He told an attorney for an
inmate at the prison that guards

745
00:41:18,080 –> 00:41:21,000
allowed inmates to conduct a
practice run.

746
00:41:21,160 –> 00:41:24,360
A week before, 2 inmates killed
a fellow prisoner who was

747
00:41:24,360 –> 00:41:28,400
handcuffed to a chair.
Yeah, and this all just sounds

748
00:41:28,400 –> 00:41:31,920
like regular cop shit, except
instead of official cops, they

749
00:41:31,920 –> 00:41:35,360
were just correctional officers.
But I mean, it’s just at least

750
00:41:35,960 –> 00:41:38,200
if you know, inmates you’ve been
hearing for years.

751
00:41:38,200 –> 00:41:40,880
That’s how most of the
contraband gets in due to

752
00:41:40,880 –> 00:41:43,240
correctional officers, they not
getting searched.

753
00:41:43,240 –> 00:41:47,040
They and the inmates had died.
It was probably some type of

754
00:41:47,040 –> 00:41:48,560
extortion or something like
that.

755
00:41:48,560 –> 00:41:51,960
The person they were extorting
didn’t want to kick up money or

756
00:41:51,960 –> 00:41:54,560
do whatever.
And you know, yeah, it’s so much

757
00:41:54,560 –> 00:41:59,720
corruption in prisons, the
entire in prison industrial

758
00:41:59,720 –> 00:42:04,080
complex, it’s a billion dollar
thing and entire economies run

759
00:42:04,080 –> 00:42:07,880
on prisons existing in these
rural areas, you know, Yeah.

760
00:42:08,120 –> 00:42:12,960
It kills me that corrections
officers also have their version

761
00:42:13,040 –> 00:42:17,400
of the thin blue line, because
what people don’t take into it’s

762
00:42:17,400 –> 00:42:19,280
crazy that firefighters have it
too.

763
00:42:19,320 –> 00:42:23,240
Because what people don’t take
into account is that when police

764
00:42:23,240 –> 00:42:26,560
are saying the thin blue line,
what they are saying is that

765
00:42:26,560 –> 00:42:32,960
they are the thin blue line that
separates average law abiding

766
00:42:33,040 –> 00:42:37,800
citizens from the criminal
element of the world.

767
00:42:37,960 –> 00:42:41,280
For corrections officers to have
that, what they’re saying is

768
00:42:41,280 –> 00:42:46,040
they are the ones who protect us
from inmates or what?

769
00:42:46,040 –> 00:42:48,640
No, the walls protect us from
the inmates.

770
00:42:48,640 –> 00:42:51,040
You dip shits.
You’re just there to sell them

771
00:42:51,040 –> 00:42:57,920
cigarettes and black, Yeah?
That you snuck in your Doritos

772
00:42:57,920 –> 00:43:00,200
bag.
We also got to remember these

773
00:43:00,200 –> 00:43:02,920
people have they have an
inferiority complex, they

774
00:43:02,920 –> 00:43:05,840
couldn’t make it on police,
which already has a low

775
00:43:05,840 –> 00:43:08,200
standards for what you need to
do to become a cop.

776
00:43:08,480 –> 00:43:10,840
And I guess early spoiler one,
that’s my plug.

777
00:43:10,840 –> 00:43:13,200
I just dropped the video about
policing in America.

778
00:43:13,400 –> 00:43:15,960
So now in their mind they’re
like, well, we just like the

779
00:43:15,960 –> 00:43:18,400
cops too.
So we got to protect this and do

780
00:43:18,400 –> 00:43:19,840
that.
But also, it’s a lot of

781
00:43:19,840 –> 00:43:22,920
corruption because you work and
you’re surrounded by criminals

782
00:43:23,320 –> 00:43:25,200
and at the end of the day,
they’re going to believe the

783
00:43:25,360 –> 00:43:27,760
they’re going to believe you
over the inmates anyway.

784
00:43:28,240 –> 00:43:31,040
Absolutely, yeah.
It’s a huge power imbalance.

785
00:43:31,040 –> 00:43:35,400
And that’s why in a perfect
world, there would be a lot of

786
00:43:35,440 –> 00:43:39,440
oversight and limits on what
kind of interaction corrections

787
00:43:39,440 –> 00:43:42,440
officers can have with inmates.
But there’s not.

788
00:43:42,600 –> 00:43:46,240
So shit like this happens at
various points.

789
00:43:46,240 –> 00:43:50,440
Kevin Steele also went to prison
officials above him with

790
00:43:50,440 –> 00:43:55,760
concerns about the treatment of
a prison investigation unit

791
00:43:55,840 –> 00:43:58,760
employee named Valentino
Rodriguez.

792
00:43:58,760 –> 00:44:02,920
He had tried to report
misconduct within the prison and

793
00:44:02,920 –> 00:44:07,400
was harassed and ridiculed by
his fellow colleagues over it.

794
00:44:07,480 –> 00:44:11,480
According to his claims, guards
routinely used racial and

795
00:44:11,480 –> 00:44:14,520
homophobic slurs against
inmates.

796
00:44:14,640 –> 00:44:18,560
They also harassed him
personally with the same kind of

797
00:44:18,560 –> 00:44:22,120
slurs and he claimed that when
he went to his supervisors with

798
00:44:22,120 –> 00:44:26,960
this information, they told him
to shut up about it or he would

799
00:44:26,960 –> 00:44:31,320
be replaced.
And at one point, this guy,

800
00:44:31,320 –> 00:44:35,540
Valentino Rodriguez texted his
wife and said that his Co

801
00:44:35,540 –> 00:44:39,800
workers had found out he was the
one filing these complaints

802
00:44:39,920 –> 00:44:44,160
about them, and she found him
dead on the bathroom floor that

803
00:44:44,160 –> 00:44:49,040
night of a fentanyl overdose.
But that’s just an accidental

804
00:44:49,040 –> 00:44:50,440
death.
Nothing to see here.

805
00:44:50,520 –> 00:44:52,960
That guy wasn’t murdered at all.
Yeah.

806
00:44:52,960 –> 00:44:56,680
And as far as with him trying to
tell hire people, the thing you

807
00:44:56,680 –> 00:45:00,280
got to realize is with these
state prisons and federal

808
00:45:00,280 –> 00:45:03,960
prisons also, they’re all in the
rural parts of America.

809
00:45:03,960 –> 00:45:08,480
So you’re essentially in a small
town and at a job that the

810
00:45:08,600 –> 00:45:13,320
entire town’s economy relies on.
I just finished the book of the

811
00:45:13,320 –> 00:45:16,240
New Jim Crow if anybody want to
check it out, as long as, say I

812
00:45:16,240 –> 00:45:19,080
listen to the audio version.
But yeah, these little rural

813
00:45:19,080 –> 00:45:22,240
areas, they all rely on these
jobs.

814
00:45:22,240 –> 00:45:24,360
So he’s like, they’re looking at
him like, dude, you bout to mess

815
00:45:24,360 –> 00:45:25,760
it up for all of us.
Shut the hell up.

816
00:45:25,840 –> 00:45:28,600
Yeah, they don’t.
They looking at it like we

817
00:45:28,600 –> 00:45:31,040
basically work at a zoo because
the people that work in these

818
00:45:31,040 –> 00:45:33,320
jobs, they don’t see the
prisoners as people anyway.

819
00:45:33,440 –> 00:45:37,360
There’s.
A pretty interesting Apple TV

820
00:45:37,360 –> 00:45:41,600
show out there called the Mayor
of Kingstown I.

821
00:45:41,760 –> 00:45:43,320
Mean, it started.
I heard it’s really good.

822
00:45:43,560 –> 00:45:44,480
It’s.
Really good.

823
00:45:44,480 –> 00:45:47,360
And it’s about exactly what
you’re describing.

824
00:45:47,360 –> 00:45:53,240
It’s a small town where the
entire economy is a prison, and

825
00:45:53,320 –> 00:45:59,640
Jeremy Renner plays a guy who
acts as a liaison between the

826
00:45:59,640 –> 00:46:03,640
police and criminals inside the
prison.

827
00:46:03,680 –> 00:46:07,160
It’s interesting.
And yeah, I can imagine if

828
00:46:07,160 –> 00:46:10,360
you’re in a situation like that,
people are going to be really

829
00:46:10,360 –> 00:46:14,360
reluctant to hearing information
that might, I don’t know, shut

830
00:46:14,360 –> 00:46:18,000
the prison down with Making a
Murderer, Steven Avery, the

831
00:46:18,000 –> 00:46:21,280
original true crime documentary
series.

832
00:46:21,280 –> 00:46:23,880
I mean, it’s not, but it’s the
reason every true crime

833
00:46:23,880 –> 00:46:29,120
documentary is 6 episodes now.
People who are skeptical of him

834
00:46:29,120 –> 00:46:33,440
being framed are like, well,
what motivation would the police

835
00:46:33,440 –> 00:46:37,160
have to frame this guy?
He was about to win a lawsuit

836
00:46:37,160 –> 00:46:41,720
that was probably going to end
That Police Department, a small

837
00:46:41,720 –> 00:46:45,160
town Police Department was not
going to survive the kind of

838
00:46:45,160 –> 00:46:47,320
financial hit they were about to
take.

839
00:46:47,440 –> 00:46:52,440
So many people had every reason
to want to frame that guy and

840
00:46:52,440 –> 00:46:53,840
they did, and they got away with
it.

841
00:46:53,880 –> 00:46:57,040
And I I can see that being a
thing here too.

842
00:46:57,040 –> 00:47:00,400
Who knows?
But the entire rest of the team

843
00:47:00,400 –> 00:47:04,680
Rodriguez worked for were fired,
and ten of them are facing

844
00:47:04,680 –> 00:47:09,200
discipline over his death,
according to a 2021 report.

845
00:47:09,200 –> 00:47:13,440
But nothing to see here.
Now the only thing is the Fenton

846
00:47:13,440 –> 00:47:16,160
overdose it seemed.
I don’t know how what what is

847
00:47:16,160 –> 00:47:17,480
your theory on what that could
be?

848
00:47:17,480 –> 00:47:20,800
Because unless he was just, I
mean, it is a lot of people that

849
00:47:20,800 –> 00:47:24,320
regularly do heroin just
casually, you know, a lot of

850
00:47:24,320 –> 00:47:27,320
people think that you can spot a
addict walking on the street.

851
00:47:27,320 –> 00:47:28,760
It’s a lot of functional
addicts.

852
00:47:29,080 –> 00:47:31,360
So you think he just got a hot
pack or something like that?

853
00:47:31,400 –> 00:47:33,920
Yeah.
I mean, it could be, it could

854
00:47:33,920 –> 00:47:40,560
be, you know, someone within the
prison who he trusted maybe came

855
00:47:40,560 –> 00:47:43,680
over to talk to him and it
happened that way.

856
00:47:43,880 –> 00:47:45,240
I don’t know.
Yeah.

857
00:47:45,240 –> 00:47:48,000
And it could have just been an
accidental overdose that

858
00:47:48,000 –> 00:47:51,040
happened at a highly
coincidental time.

859
00:47:51,040 –> 00:47:54,240
Coincidences do happen, too.
But, yeah, I don’t know.

860
00:47:54,240 –> 00:47:57,760
That’s the thing about fentanyl.
It’s it doesn’t take a lot of it

861
00:47:58,000 –> 00:48:00,880
to kill a person.
You could have, I’m assuming you

862
00:48:00,880 –> 00:48:04,080
could dissolve it in a drink and
kill a person that way, too.

863
00:48:04,160 –> 00:48:07,000
So I don’t know.
But it’s actually not the only

864
00:48:07,000 –> 00:48:10,720
death in this story.
Because remember, we started by

865
00:48:10,720 –> 00:48:15,040
talking about Kevin Steele.
About a year after Valentine

866
00:48:15,200 –> 00:48:18,840
Rodriguez turned up dead.
Or Valentino Rodriguez.

867
00:48:18,840 –> 00:48:23,400
Sorry, Kevin Steele turned up
dead once again from a single

868
00:48:23,400 –> 00:48:27,120
gunshot wound to the head in
Miller County, Missouri, where

869
00:48:27,120 –> 00:48:31,720
he had fled to after word of his
reporting on fellow corrections

870
00:48:31,720 –> 00:48:35,520
officers got out.
And as far as I can tell, the

871
00:48:35,520 –> 00:48:37,960
Rodriguez death was ruled an
accident.

872
00:48:38,000 –> 00:48:40,920
Kevin Steele’s death was ruled a
suicide.

873
00:48:41,000 –> 00:48:43,880
And that’s it.
That’s where the story ends.

874
00:48:44,160 –> 00:48:47,640
And I’m sure things are so much
better inside that prison now,

875
00:48:47,800 –> 00:48:49,440
yeah.
And the prison?

876
00:48:49,440 –> 00:48:52,480
What state is it in again?
It’s in California.

877
00:48:52,480 –> 00:48:54,600
It was in Sacramento, OK?
It’s in the.

878
00:48:54,600 –> 00:48:56,760
Capital of California, so not a
small town.

879
00:48:57,000 –> 00:48:59,240
They have a sports team at
least.

880
00:48:59,480 –> 00:49:01,240
Oh.
It was in actual Sacramento

881
00:49:01,240 –> 00:49:03,680
proper.
Yeah, yeah, OK, because I know a

882
00:49:03,680 –> 00:49:06,800
lot of prisons and stuff are in
smaller areas.

883
00:49:07,000 –> 00:49:09,400
I wonder, was that a minimum
security prison or something?

884
00:49:09,520 –> 00:49:12,000
Because a lot of these prisons
and stuff, they keep them kind

885
00:49:12,000 –> 00:49:14,080
of far, yeah.
I don’t know.

886
00:49:14,160 –> 00:49:15,880
You’re right.
That is true.

887
00:49:15,880 –> 00:49:19,840
But in California, like, you
can’t really keep people too far

888
00:49:19,840 –> 00:49:22,520
away because the state’s so big.
I mean, I guess you could.

889
00:49:23,120 –> 00:49:26,760
I don’t know where in California
these inmates committed their

890
00:49:26,760 –> 00:49:29,480
crimes.
They could be from Southern

891
00:49:29,480 –> 00:49:34,920
California and Sacramento is
Northern California or kind of

892
00:49:34,920 –> 00:49:38,600
Central California.
But it’s in terms of driving

893
00:49:38,600 –> 00:49:42,200
from LA, it’s a state’s drive
away, yeah.

894
00:49:42,400 –> 00:49:45,840
Yeah, California is huge.
Just like sex is one of the

895
00:49:45,840 –> 00:49:48,920
places that people were like, oh
man, I don’t understand why

896
00:49:48,920 –> 00:49:52,080
Americans don’t go abroad more.
Maybe because your entire

897
00:49:52,080 –> 00:49:53,720
country can fit in one of our
states.

898
00:49:53,880 –> 00:49:55,360
Yeah.
Exactly, Yeah.

899
00:49:55,360 –> 00:49:57,480
I got to see all of the states
here.

900
00:49:57,480 –> 00:49:59,720
First we call foreign countries
states.

901
00:49:59,840 –> 00:50:02,240
I still got stuff to see here,
although I did just go to

902
00:50:02,240 –> 00:50:03,320
Coastal Recon.
That was cool.

903
00:50:03,400 –> 00:50:05,600
All right, let’s talk about this
last one.

904
00:50:05,920 –> 00:50:09,080
Speaking of prisons, Gabriela
Contreras.

905
00:50:09,200 –> 00:50:15,240
This one is very, very strange.
She leaked surveillance videos

906
00:50:15,480 –> 00:50:20,280
from inside the Lewis prison
complex in Arizona.

907
00:50:20,320 –> 00:50:24,200
And this is in, I’m pretty sure,
a pretty small town.

908
00:50:24,200 –> 00:50:27,320
It’s called Buckeye, AZ.
You ever been, ever been to

909
00:50:27,320 –> 00:50:28,880
Buckeye AZ?
Right.

910
00:50:28,880 –> 00:50:31,560
I think Arizona only has one
city that people heard of

911
00:50:31,560 –> 00:50:32,440
anyway.
Yeah.

912
00:50:32,600 –> 00:50:33,600
Kind of.
Phoenix.

913
00:50:33,600 –> 00:50:36,400
Well, Phoenix, Scottsdale,
Flagstaff.

914
00:50:36,560 –> 00:50:40,120
I can name Kingman, but only
because I’ve driven past it on

915
00:50:40,120 –> 00:50:43,760
the way to Albuquerque a bunch.
But yeah, yeah, I can’t.

916
00:50:43,760 –> 00:50:45,360
Scottsdale.
Flagstaff ain’t they ain’t

917
00:50:45,360 –> 00:50:47,720
getting no, they ain’t getting
no star on the map, so they

918
00:50:47,760 –> 00:50:49,000
don’t really count.
Those are like.

919
00:50:50,480 –> 00:50:52,320
I did a great show in
Scottsdale.

920
00:50:52,480 –> 00:50:54,960
We love you, Scottsdale.
Or was it never heard of staff?

921
00:50:55,000 –> 00:50:58,760
I don’t.
I just know it wasn’t Phoenix.

922
00:50:58,760 –> 00:51:00,640
And I was like, oh, Phoenix
would have been cool.

923
00:51:00,800 –> 00:51:01,840
Anyway.
Speaking.

924
00:51:02,000 –> 00:51:04,880
Prison misconduct.
Gabriella Contreras, did you

925
00:51:04,880 –> 00:51:06,200
watch this video?
No.

926
00:51:06,200 –> 00:51:09,680
I just read all of the notes.
It is nuts.

927
00:51:09,760 –> 00:51:14,560
What this video shows is that
inside this prison she worked

928
00:51:14,560 –> 00:51:18,880
at, the inmate’s cells didn’t
lock at all.

929
00:51:18,880 –> 00:51:24,320
So this video is of two
corrections officers in a fight

930
00:51:24,320 –> 00:51:27,880
with two inmates.
And as this fight is carrying

931
00:51:27,880 –> 00:51:32,160
on, all the other inmates are
just opening their doors freely

932
00:51:32,520 –> 00:51:36,160
and seeing this happening and
running down to join in this

933
00:51:36,160 –> 00:51:38,640
fight.
And this was apparently a

934
00:51:38,640 –> 00:51:42,640
problem for 10 years at this
prison.

935
00:51:42,720 –> 00:51:48,600
And they knew about it and just
didn’t fix it, which I can’t

936
00:51:48,600 –> 00:51:50,240
fathom that.
Yeah, why?

937
00:51:50,240 –> 00:51:52,560
This doesn’t even need to be
leaked.

938
00:51:52,600 –> 00:51:55,320
This is something that employees
Yeah, we’re not coming to work

939
00:51:55,320 –> 00:51:57,400
today.
Let’s y’all fix the goddamn

940
00:51:57,400 –> 00:52:00,880
prison door.
And see, I wonder if this is

941
00:52:00,880 –> 00:52:05,480
what you were talking about.
Because Buckeye, AZ, I bet

942
00:52:05,480 –> 00:52:08,040
there’s not a shit ton of jobs
in Buckeye.

943
00:52:08,200 –> 00:52:11,800
And I bet what it was was people
would go to their superiors and

944
00:52:11,800 –> 00:52:15,440
be like, hey, we would like
these doors fixed so we don’t

945
00:52:15,440 –> 00:52:18,120
die at the job.
And I bet those superiors were

946
00:52:18,120 –> 00:52:22,320
like, hey, there’s a McDonald’s
in town that you can work at if

947
00:52:22,320 –> 00:52:26,000
you’d rather go do that.
And so it takes someone like

948
00:52:26,000 –> 00:52:30,560
Gabriela Contreras to put this
information out to the public so

949
00:52:30,600 –> 00:52:35,920
people outside that ecosystem
can get outraged a little bit.

950
00:52:36,080 –> 00:52:39,840
Not only that, but she’s the one
who leaked the videos.

951
00:52:40,280 –> 00:52:45,240
And then Arizona launched an
investigation, and the governor

952
00:52:45,520 –> 00:52:50,200
ordered that the prison produce
a report, a detailed report

953
00:52:50,240 –> 00:52:53,320
about every one of the locks
that didn’t work.

954
00:52:53,440 –> 00:52:57,400
And when they did those reports,
the supervisors at the prison

955
00:52:57,520 –> 00:53:02,200
ordered the corrections officers
to alter those reports before

956
00:53:02,200 –> 00:53:03,840
sending them back to the
governor.

957
00:53:04,160 –> 00:53:08,080
And Gabriella Contreras reached
out to the governor when that

958
00:53:08,080 –> 00:53:11,400
was happening and told him about
that also.

959
00:53:11,440 –> 00:53:16,640
And she was anonymous for a
long, long time, but finally

960
00:53:16,640 –> 00:53:20,400
gave an interview with a local
ABC affiliate there.

961
00:53:20,480 –> 00:53:24,400
And just a little over a year
after she initially leaked the

962
00:53:24,400 –> 00:53:29,680
videos and the story broke,
police responded to a domestic

963
00:53:29,680 –> 00:53:34,520
disturbance call at her home and
found her dead from a single

964
00:53:34,680 –> 00:53:38,160
gunshot wound to the head.
They immediately ruled it a

965
00:53:38,160 –> 00:53:43,720
suicide and shut it down right
away and man something about

966
00:53:43,720 –> 00:53:48,000
them responding to a domestic
disturbance makes me feel like

967
00:53:48,000 –> 00:53:51,000
maybe the neighbors heard
something more than a single

968
00:53:51,000 –> 00:53:55,320
gunshot because otherwise the
police would be responding to

969
00:53:55,720 –> 00:53:59,240
gunshots.
Yeah, or at least another person

970
00:53:59,240 –> 00:54:01,920
or something like that.
They didn’t mention a boyfriend

971
00:54:01,920 –> 00:54:04,600
or anybody in the house.
How the hell is it a domestic

972
00:54:04,600 –> 00:54:06,080
disturbance?
And then the suicide.

973
00:54:06,320 –> 00:54:09,880
Yeah, and the fact that the
neighbors called it a domestic

974
00:54:09,880 –> 00:54:13,520
disturbance makes me feel like
they did hear possibly a man’s

975
00:54:13,520 –> 00:54:18,000
voice in that moment, but
immediately ruled a suicide and

976
00:54:18,160 –> 00:54:23,560
nothing else ever came of it.
And with her, it’s not even that

977
00:54:23,920 –> 00:54:27,680
she was at the finish line in
terms of what she was trying to

978
00:54:27,680 –> 00:54:30,400
do.
It got done because of what she

979
00:54:30,400 –> 00:54:33,600
did.
There were like 1000 locks that

980
00:54:33,600 –> 00:54:36,440
were replaced within that
prison.

981
00:54:36,520 –> 00:54:40,400
The entire prison leadership was
fired and replaced.

982
00:54:40,400 –> 00:54:45,560
The prison’s name was changed.
But also again, small town, the

983
00:54:45,560 –> 00:54:48,320
prison is probably the main
employer.

984
00:54:48,360 –> 00:54:53,000
So even though all that got
done, you know there were still

985
00:54:53,000 –> 00:54:56,960
lots of people with a whole lot
of motivation to want to kill

986
00:54:56,960 –> 00:54:59,840
her for no other reason than
revenge, maybe.

987
00:54:59,960 –> 00:55:01,920
Yeah.
They had some incentive for not

988
00:55:01,920 –> 00:55:04,200
wanting those locks fixed, you
know?

989
00:55:04,600 –> 00:55:06,680
Yeah.
It’s and I wonder what that

990
00:55:06,680 –> 00:55:10,280
would be.
Why would you not want to fix

991
00:55:10,280 –> 00:55:12,760
that?
But as far as I can tell, there

992
00:55:12,760 –> 00:55:16,600
hasn’t been any other
investigation taken into her

993
00:55:16,600 –> 00:55:17,960
death.
There’s not even a lot of

994
00:55:17,960 –> 00:55:23,080
reporting about this one.
It’s the other prison story.

995
00:55:23,080 –> 00:55:26,280
There’s a podcast series about
it, and there’s a bunch of

996
00:55:26,280 –> 00:55:28,760
information out there about
this, but about that one.

997
00:55:28,760 –> 00:55:31,400
But this is local news reports
mostly.

998
00:55:32,200 –> 00:55:35,480
What was her name again?
Gabriella Contreras.

999
00:55:36,120 –> 00:55:39,160
Yeah, well, that’s not exactly
the name Americans really care

1000
00:55:39,160 –> 00:55:41,360
about.
They like that’s that’s a little

1001
00:55:41,360 –> 00:55:43,480
too ethnic for them to make a
big deal out of.

1002
00:55:43,480 –> 00:55:46,120
They’re like, listen, we only
get one cereal a decade for a

1003
00:55:46,120 –> 00:55:47,400
four and last name.
That’s.

1004
00:55:48,680 –> 00:55:49,760
True.
That’s true.

1005
00:55:50,440 –> 00:55:52,760
So no, seriously though, the
minority dies.

1006
00:55:52,760 –> 00:55:55,800
You better hope that it’s better
hope that it’s enough

1007
00:55:55,800 –> 00:55:57,880
circumstances for us to care
about.

1008
00:55:57,880 –> 00:55:59,640
I wrote a line in my newest
video.

1009
00:55:59,640 –> 00:56:02,760
The only reason the Eric Garner
happened because everybody was

1010
00:56:02,760 –> 00:56:04,200
home.
Otherwise, that would have just

1011
00:56:04,200 –> 00:56:06,160
been another Saturday.
Whatever.

1012
00:56:06,160 –> 00:56:07,880
In America, yeah.
Yeah.

1013
00:56:08,400 –> 00:56:11,720
So we could talk about more.
I’m sure there’s more that have

1014
00:56:11,720 –> 00:56:16,280
even happened since 2020, but I
put the 2020 limit on this one

1015
00:56:16,280 –> 00:56:20,400
to just show how often this
happens and also to rein it in a

1016
00:56:20,400 –> 00:56:22,680
little bit.
But there’s more.

1017
00:56:22,680 –> 00:56:25,080
There’s lots of examples of
whistleblowers throughout the

1018
00:56:25,080 –> 00:56:29,760
years being suspiciously
suicided, I guess is a good way

1019
00:56:29,760 –> 00:56:32,280
to put it.
And I don’t doubt that John

1020
00:56:32,280 –> 00:56:37,040
Barnett is another.
And I don’t doubt that nothing

1021
00:56:37,040 –> 00:56:40,520
will ever come of it.
Like, I can’t imagine this being

1022
00:56:40,520 –> 00:56:42,800
any different.
I don’t think anyone’s going to

1023
00:56:42,800 –> 00:56:47,440
get prosecuted for murder in the
John Barnett case, but we’ll

1024
00:56:47,440 –> 00:56:49,200
see.
You know, what I almost put on

1025
00:56:49,200 –> 00:56:55,000
the list was Jean Luc Brunel.
He was the European wing of the

1026
00:56:55,000 –> 00:57:00,040
Jeffrey Epstein operation, and
he also committed suicide under

1027
00:57:00,040 –> 00:57:04,120
very suspicious circumstances
after he was arrested.

1028
00:57:04,200 –> 00:57:07,640
And that got a whole lot less
attention than, I mean, for

1029
00:57:07,640 –> 00:57:10,240
obvious reasons, than the
Jeffrey Epstein thing, but

1030
00:57:10,440 –> 00:57:14,960
still, it’s pretty shady.
Yeah, yes.

1031
00:57:15,160 –> 00:57:18,640
And also with the Boeing thing,
like that’s one of what two

1032
00:57:18,760 –> 00:57:22,080
companies the average person can
name that does airplanes.

1033
00:57:22,080 –> 00:57:25,240
What I know Boeing and then I
look without Google, I know

1034
00:57:25,240 –> 00:57:27,160
Rolls Royce makes the jet
engines.

1035
00:57:27,520 –> 00:57:31,560
They got such a large share of
the market, they got Buku money

1036
00:57:31,560 –> 00:57:34,080
to do whatever.
And there’s so many people that

1037
00:57:34,080 –> 00:57:37,240
has vested interests and things
going away.

1038
00:57:37,320 –> 00:57:41,680
It’s just ridiculous, you know?
Yeah, Boeing would absolutely

1039
00:57:41,680 –> 00:57:44,680
have the resources to make this
happen.

1040
00:57:44,960 –> 00:57:48,640
And I don’t know.
I can’t imagine being skeptical

1041
00:57:48,640 –> 00:57:53,040
enough to hear that John Barnett
story and be like, come on,

1042
00:57:53,040 –> 00:57:56,640
Boeing wouldn’t do that.
Boeing makes machines that kill

1043
00:57:56,640 –> 00:57:57,760
people.
Right.

1044
00:57:58,360 –> 00:58:01,840
I really curious how these
people that just don’t believe

1045
00:58:01,840 –> 00:58:05,000
these stories, what level of
privilege or how do you live

1046
00:58:05,000 –> 00:58:08,120
your life that you just trust
the government and police and

1047
00:58:08,120 –> 00:58:11,360
all of that stuff, Yeah.
I can’t imagine.

1048
00:58:11,360 –> 00:58:15,480
And it it’s because the
government has done such an

1049
00:58:15,480 –> 00:58:20,400
amazing job of stigmatizing the
word conspiracy.

1050
00:58:20,440 –> 00:58:26,160
And once people can say, oh, so
you believe conspiracies, then

1051
00:58:26,160 –> 00:58:29,080
it’s done.
It’s there’s a whole portion of

1052
00:58:29,080 –> 00:58:32,680
the population that’s just not
even going to engage in the

1053
00:58:32,680 –> 00:58:35,880
conversation when they hear the
word conspiracy.

1054
00:58:35,880 –> 00:58:39,600
I send those booking emails out
to book guests for the podcast.

1055
00:58:39,600 –> 00:58:45,680
There are guests who respond for
every single show except the

1056
00:58:45,760 –> 00:58:50,960
conspiracy podcast every time,
and I guarantee it’s because

1057
00:58:50,960 –> 00:58:56,040
they’re liberals or progressives
don’t believe right wing

1058
00:58:56,040 –> 00:58:59,080
conspiracies.
And when they hear the word

1059
00:58:59,080 –> 00:59:03,160
conspiracy, they immediately
think right wing conspiracies.

1060
00:59:04,120 –> 00:59:07,080
Yeah, like I said, like I always
say, it’s too Americas.

1061
00:59:07,080 –> 00:59:08,720
Because sometimes I listen to an
episode.

1062
00:59:08,840 –> 00:59:10,720
I’m like, oh wait, that’s the
conspiracy.

1063
00:59:10,720 –> 00:59:12,360
Every black personado believes
that.

1064
00:59:12,720 –> 00:59:15,280
We just a lot of the stuff that
people consider conspiracies.

1065
00:59:15,280 –> 00:59:18,600
Nah, we’ve been telling you all
this shit for years that entire

1066
00:59:18,600 –> 00:59:20,640
economies run on locking up
black men.

1067
00:59:20,640 –> 00:59:24,320
This entire books written about
this shit like it would U.S.

1068
00:59:24,320 –> 00:59:27,560
government would mean the
economy would literally change

1069
00:59:27,960 –> 00:59:29,760
it.
There’s literally lobbyists and

1070
00:59:29,760 –> 00:59:33,680
stuff so that we don’t just to
keep federal laws and stuff like

1071
00:59:33,680 –> 00:59:35,960
it’s.
But yeah, I know we it’s not the

1072
00:59:35,960 –> 00:59:38,280
plug section.
But seriously guys, if the audio

1073
00:59:38,280 –> 00:59:40,640
version, check out the New Jim
Crow.

1074
00:59:40,840 –> 00:59:43,960
The 10th anniversary edition
came out a couple years ago.

1075
00:59:44,240 –> 00:59:47,840
That’s when I listened to so it
the original book came out in

1076
00:59:47,840 –> 00:59:51,120
2010.
So it was written during Obama’s

1077
00:59:51,120 –> 00:59:53,080
era.
So the 10th anniversary came out

1078
00:59:53,080 –> 00:59:55,120
in 2020.
So it’s super interesting

1079
00:59:55,120 –> 00:59:58,800
because she, the author, she
goes into the failings of Obama,

1080
00:59:59,160 –> 01:00:03,480
what Trump made words and why
our system is just is deeper.

1081
01:00:03,480 –> 01:00:05,960
See it was way deeper than you
can imagine, even if you

1082
01:00:06,200 –> 01:00:09,240
understand that you know that
police perform off a white

1083
01:00:09,240 –> 01:00:11,040
performance and just locking
minorities.

1084
01:00:11,040 –> 01:00:13,640
But it’s even deeper the
information in that book.

1085
01:00:13,720 –> 01:00:15,320
Yeah.
People should check that out.

1086
01:00:15,520 –> 01:00:16,800
I have not read it.
Don’t read that.

1087
01:00:17,000 –> 01:00:20,680
And we should get the plugs
because I think we have hit the

1088
01:00:20,720 –> 01:00:23,000
end of the episode.
Thanks so much for doing the

1089
01:00:23,000 –> 01:00:24,560
pod.
I appreciate it.

1090
01:00:24,560 –> 01:00:28,080
No problem.
What do I have to plug before we

1091
01:00:28,080 –> 01:00:32,160
get out of here?
You don’t pod.supercast.com.

1092
01:00:32,200 –> 01:00:36,400
You can go there to get bonus
episodes of Conspiracy to Show

1093
01:00:36,400 –> 01:00:39,880
and all of our other shows.
We still have a Patreon also

1094
01:00:39,880 –> 01:00:43,560
patreon.com slash on pops, but
there’s only one level, it’s

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01:00:43,760 –> 01:00:46,680
$18.00 a month.
You have more flexibility at

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01:00:46,680 –> 01:00:50,720
Supercast, so check that out and
that’s all I got for now.

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01:00:50,920 –> 01:00:53,800
What else do you got to plug?
Just my YouTube channel, John

1098
01:00:53,800 –> 01:00:57,240
Lewis JAWN and it’s Louis.
Like Louis Vuitton.

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01:00:57,240 –> 01:01:00,120
That’s the easiest way because
I’m constantly changing the

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01:01:00,600 –> 01:01:02,640
titles of some of my videos for
the algorithm.

1101
01:01:02,640 –> 01:01:05,840
But my newest one that’s out by
the time this comes out it’s

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01:01:06,200 –> 01:01:09,360
basically it’s called I just
changed it to Why police

1103
01:01:09,360 –> 01:01:13,640
Corruption and Never Change And
yes it’s basically about all of

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01:01:13,640 –> 01:01:15,680
that stuff.
But yeah it’s doing pretty good.

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01:01:15,680 –> 01:01:18,840
It’s my previous video flopped,
but I’ll tell y’all ahead of

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time.
Sorry for the audio, I had a bit

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01:01:20,440 –> 01:01:22,360
of audio issue.
The game was teaching a little

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01:01:22,360 –> 01:01:26,080
bit, but it’s still worth to
watch and I’ll be I’m working on

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01:01:26,080 –> 01:01:27,880
my next video right now.
Nice.

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01:01:28,680 –> 01:01:31,560
And I think that’s it.
Let’s get the fuck out of here,

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01:01:31,560 –> 01:01:32,680
John.
Say goodbye all.

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Right guys, I’m I’ll hear y’all
for the next conspiracy because

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01:01:36,360 –> 01:01:38,440
the list is really short for
guests.

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01:01:39,320 –> 01:01:47,560
Goodbye everybody.
We love you, people of Earth.

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Your planet has to be destroyed.
Your planet has to be destroyed.