Adam and special guest Atif Myers discuss a bizarre conspiracy theory that’s been kicking around for a decade and a half now. Can Stevie Wonder see?
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Welcome to Conspiracy the Show,
the world’s most trusted
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conspiracy theory podcast with
your hosts Adam Todd Brown and
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Olivia Hydar.
Hey everybody, welcome to
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Conspiracy the show.
I’m your host Adam Todd Brown.
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Joining me is Co host this week.
Oh my favorite Co host of all.
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No Co host, but you have a guest
tiff Myers is here a tiff.
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How’s it going?
It’s going well.
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I honestly enjoy it whenever you
do the Oh no Co host.
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That’s like my favorite fucking
thing.
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I can leave now and I’ll be
happy.
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A tiff has been on.
You’ve been on the Conspiracy
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pod before, for sure.
You were on the Malcolm X
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episodes.
I know that.
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You’ve been on here on since, I
think, though I don’t know.
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Maybe.
Maybe.
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I don’t know.
I think there was one we did
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where it was like a bunch of
conspiracies or it was like or
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that might have been like a news
roundup.
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Yeah, that might have been a
conspiracy news roundup.
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We do that.
Either way, people know a TIF,
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Comedian, Minister of happiness.
I’ve changed the title in 24.
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The Discord hates me sometimes.
What do they hate you for?
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The.
Sauces was really fucking
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controversial fucking hating the
UK.
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Yeah, your opinion on the UK
still, one of my favorite
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podcast moments is you and Ethan
Lawrence on the 500th episode.
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And Ethan very cordially invites
you, if you’re ever in the UK,
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to take you out and show you
some of the better things about
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the UK.
And you in turn invited him.
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If he’s ever in the US.
You said you would take him to
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Chili’s.
Tell him how much fucking better
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it is and everything he would
show he was being paid like you
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did not let up on the gas at
all.
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But our conversation was like
very pleasant.
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It was very pleasant though.
Was it was great.
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I think both of you were
expecting me to come out guns
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blazing and just trying to
fight, but I was like, no, I’ll
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listen.
Like I like debating.
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I’ll listen and be civil about
it.
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I’m not like the other person
and like the con man, like that
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was fucking rough.
But like me and Ethan, we had a
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great time.
That guy’s awesome.
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Yeah, Ethan rules.
He’s going to be on.
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You don’t even like this show
again very soon.
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So we’re doing a My Favorite
Conspiracy episode.
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That means a tiff is here to
talk about a conspiracy that not
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necessarily your favorite.
Maybe it’s your favorite.
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It is my favorite.
It is my favorite.
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It’s like, yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
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That makes sense.
This is a fun one.
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This is a conspiracy That
doesn’t hurt.
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It heals.
Yes.
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And it’s also I guess in honor
of Black History Month I’m going
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with what I think is like the
blackest conspiracy and that’s
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that Stevie Wonder can see.
I I honestly think he, I think
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there’s he can see and it’s like
a 70% of me is like yo he can
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fucking see and so.
This is the thing I have talked
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about before.
There are some videos out there
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that are pretty interesting.
Damning to say the least.
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Let me say damning.
I’m going to go very strong with
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my words on this one.
And I think part of the reason
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we’re doing this now is I just
watched the documentary about
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the making of We Are the World,
Which one is really good?
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It’s very interesting.
It was actually way more
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interesting than I even expected
it to be.
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But also one, there’s a scene
where Ray Charles asks where the
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bathroom is, and Stevie Wonder
is the one who, like, pops up
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and offers to show them the
bathroom.
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And then they just walk off
together.
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It’s like literally the blind
leading the blind.
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I I’ve been asking you to do
this for like months.
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I think there was one e-mail
where it was like let us know
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you’re available to be on UNPOP.
Sorry to break the 4th wall and
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I responded with Stevie Wonder
exclamation point.
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Like I I I wanted this for so
long I was going to just jump
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right into it.
But you talk.
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Sorry.
Oh, I was just going to say.
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Also, there’s another moment
where Stevie Wonder just makes a
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joke about him driving everyone
home in the We Are The World
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documentary.
And that’s a part of why I think
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he’s faking a little bit,
because he’s way too cool about
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it.
Does that make sense?
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So I There’s another 4th wall
break if you If you don’t like
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this, listeners, I compiled the
notes, so blame me.
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But there is a section called A
Tiff Speculation, and one of
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them is because he’s way too
cool about being the butt of
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blind jokes to be blind.
Does that make sense?
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Maybe he’s just used to it by
now.
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He’s got, he’s got thick skin.
Dude, But like, there was a
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commercial about him going up to
Tracy, Tracy Morgan and elbowing
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him.
And big what up Tracy?
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And then Tracy’s?
Like, how do you do that?
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And it’s like, dude, like,
you’re already super talented.
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The blindness isn’t a hindrance
at all.
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It’s weird that you joke about
it so often, unless you’re meta
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joking and knowing that you’re
not actually blind.
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But you got us thinking you’re
blind, so therefore you’re
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laughing at us, laughing at your
presumptive blindness.
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That’s deep.
You’re really thinking about
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this?
If there was like a shampoo
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commercial and they’re like a
tiff, we need you to be in it.
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As a bald guy, I’d fucking be
furious.
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Like I’m like, don’t what the
fuck?
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I’m bald.
I mean, your shampoo commercial
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was bullshit, but no.
But if I had hair underneath the
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scalp and I’m like, I’m not
actually bald, I do it all day.
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You do make a good point in
that.
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I can’t think of a whole lot of
other people with disabilities
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at all who do commercials where
that is like the joke, like
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’cause there’s there’s
entertainers who have, you know,
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various disabilities.
Marlee Matlin, for example.
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I I haven’t.
I don’t think I’ve ever seen her
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in a commercial where it’s like,
isn’t it funny you can’t hear,
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idiot.
Right.
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It’s like fucking Stephen
Hawking was in a commercial for
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like, steps and like, was it?
Like A1 problem I can’t figure
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out.
Yeah, fucking dirtbag.
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No, he would never do that.
But Stevie Wonder is.
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He’s in like sketches where he’s
taking pictures, like he’s way
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too cool.
Ray Charles didn’t even do that.
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Like Ray, Charles is like Pepsi.
Commercial is just being himself
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as like the classiest beacon of
drinking Pepsi.
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So why do you say this is the
blackest conspiracy?
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It’s the blackest conspiracy
cause mainly only like the black
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community has been calling it
out and believes it.
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And also unlike other black
conspiracies like this one might
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not be true.
Like, I think a lot of black
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conspiracies are actually right
where they’re like the
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government’s putting crack in
the community and the government
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got Malcolm X killed.
Like those are like, that’s just
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news at this point.
But like Stevie Wonder, Stevie
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Wonder’s still, like the Stevie
Wonder can see is still
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prevalent amongst and no one
seems to address it.
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I didn’t realize how widespread
this theory was.
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There’s websites about it.
We’ll in a minute talk about all
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the different celebrity stories
about Steven Wonder.
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I just remember seeing the the
microphone stand thing and I was
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like, what the hell is that?
One of the videos I saw in
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research, some guy was like, you
never seen him with a walking
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stick, like a blind stick.
That’s a good ass point.
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You’ve never seen it with the
stick.
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That is true, yeah.
But you do always see him.
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With someone.
With someone like, there’s
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always someone nearby.
And I don’t know, like some of
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the arguments people make, I
don’t necessarily buy, like the
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clothes.
Like, he’s rich.
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He’s got a stylist.
Like he wouldn’t be picking out
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his own clothes if he could see.
That’s true.
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And it’s also like, no one’s
really going to let him go out.
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And rags.
Like, I don’t even think he
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would even own that, you know?
Yeah, even then there’s a video.
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I watched it, It was a TMZ video
and it said it was Stevie Wonder
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addressing people who claim he
can see but he actually doesn’t
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in the video.
But he was landing at LAX and he
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just had like a black T-shirt
and black pants and a fucking do
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rag on.
So you know, he doesn’t always
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dress like he’s in the I just
called to say I Love You video.
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But his his facial hair has been
bad for for like, decades.
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He’s had the worst mustache
around the mouth, half goatee,
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half.
I don’t know what it was bad.
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It’s been bad for a while.
But I think that’s that might be
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a part of the ACT though.
He’s like, look at me, try to
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cut my own facial.
Hair.
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Well, his hairline is getting
severe too.
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Oh, yes.
It’s a spectacle.
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And I do wonder.
I wonder, like, if he could see
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it, would he do, Would he be
like, shave it, shave it off?
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I don’t.
Think so?
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And like, who’s going to tell
him, right?
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But unless he knows and it’s a
part of the ACT.
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It could be, I mean, but what
would like?
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Wouldn’t it be a cooler story if
he could see to like, come out
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and be like, hey, guess what?
Figured it out.
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I can see again.
Like that would be huge news.
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It would probably like, like,
know what We don’t like?
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Stevie Wonder because he’s
blind.
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His music fucking rips.
Again, he’s been killing it
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since the 60s.
Like since he was like 10 years
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old, Like his music is
unbelievable.
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Wikipedia has each decade he’s
been performing as like in the
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60s it was just singles.
The 70s it was just classic
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albums, period.
Like, who the fuck has a classic
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albums period, right.
Yeah.
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And like an entire decade where
they’re like, he just made
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banger after banger and then the
80s, he’s sold out, They’re
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like, Nah, this is what he’s
selling at.
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Like, yeah.
It was all trash.
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But 20 years into a career, he’s
like, I guess I’m going to sell
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out now, you know?
It’s fucking crazy.
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Yeah, he’s definitely.
He’s had a long run.
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Maybe he’s just so talented and
so creative that like pretending
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to be blind is the only way he
can feel whole anymore.
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Like music is just so easy.
But navigating the world as a
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blind person who isn’t blind?
What if his glasses make him
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blind and that’s the thing?
Like he can see, but just just
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for the challenge?
He goes out in the world, not
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blind.
It’s it’s just crazy.
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And what he’s won 25 Grammys as
well as a lifetime achievement
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award in 96 which he was still
making music in 96 and it’s
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still making music now.
Like, yeah, it’s a lifetime
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achievement award in the middle
of his career.
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And then only one of four
artists who won the Grammy for
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album of the year three times
with the Tim Sinatra Paul Simon.
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Which is a weird one.
And then Taylor Swift.
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Yeah, I’m surprised at the Paul
Simon one.
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Right, the Taylor Swift 1.
Not that surprising.
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But the Paul Simon.
I’m like, how the fuck did that
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happen?
Yeah, I’m actually surprised
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there aren’t more people who’ve
won it three times.
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That’s interesting.
Yeah, like, not even like
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Michael Jackson.
Yeah, yeah, right.
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Mariah Carey.
Yeah.
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Michael Jackson, Mariah Carey,
Madonna Prince.
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Like there’s a lot of people
that you would that have like
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some real bangers that you would
think, yeah.
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Beyoncé has never even won one.
Yeah, that’s a scandal.
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That’s a scandal.
That’s the next conspiracy.
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They’re just hating on her.
So this theory you have in the
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notes, it rose to prominence in
2010.
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Yes, because the the video of We
Are the World catches the mic
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stand resurfaced.
Oh, the White House performance,
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you mean?
The White House performance?
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Yes.
Sorry.
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He caught.
So who ran by?
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Was it like sting?
It was someone.
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Wasn’t that Paul McCartney?
It was Paul McCartney.
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Paul McCartney ran by him, hit
the mic stand to get to like the
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piano and then.
But Stevie Wonder catches the
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mic stand like it was a one in a
million catch for like anyone
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who can see.
And he just fucking caught it.
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Yeah, that puts it back.
Yeah, it is a weird video.
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That’s the video that definitely
got me on board.
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So I guess, yeah, I’m an OG.
I’m on the ground floor of the
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Stevie Truther movement.
Right.
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Like, how did he do that?
Nobody knows how he did that.
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Like, I even watched there was a
blind guy who broke down Stevie
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Wonder blindness this.
He broke down his whole
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conspiracy theory.
Well, how’d he do it?
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That’s what I’m saying.
I don’t know.
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But he came.
He tried to come to his defense.
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But I’m like, dawg, you can’t
even see it either, man.
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Like, how are you?
How you defending him?
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He’s just like blind people do
cool tricks sometimes.
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I’m like, everybody has cool
tricks sometimes.
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Like he’s not Daredevil.
I know it does.
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At least I have read that, like
being a blind person, over time
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your other senses are going to
get a little more heightened and
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you’re going to really, like,
have a good sense of your body
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and like, where it is in space.
I don’t know.
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I don’t know.
But also, yeah, he caught that
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mic stand.
So like, maybe he just like,
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heard Paul McCartney knock it
over and go, whoo Hoo, and he
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just knew to reach out.
I don’t know.
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He, like, knew what direction it
fell.
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What if he was trying to grab
Paul McCartney’s Dick?
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But how would he even know Paul
McCartney’s height?
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You know what I mean?
Even then.
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Like the echolocation, like
package hitting the pants and
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he’s like there’s this hog and
then he grabs it.
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Yeah, I don’t know.
The the mic stand video is very
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odd.
Yeah, if we were a better
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podcast, we’d like have a blind
person on to.
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Talk about this.
And again, I hope this isn’t
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like, disparaging like blind
people.
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Like we’re not trying to do
that.
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But this guy, if it is, if it is
true, we can see he’s been
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making a profit off of your pain
for decades, like we’re doing.
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He was service.
I will say there there are some
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of these celebrity stories that
I think can be explained, even
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if he is blind.
I couldn’t find the Oprah video.
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I remember watching this episode
of Oprah where she gifted him a
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Bentley and I was just like, he
can’t even drive way unless he
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can see like, why on earth would
you give him that right?
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Like, am I crazy?
Yeah, I mean, it would be a
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weird choice.
A Rolls Royce back in O4 ’cause
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he sang at her 50th birthday
party.
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I mean, Stevie want he wants a
cool car like anyone else.
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Why?
Why do you want Stevie Wonder
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sitting in the passenger seat of
a fucking Hyundai or something?
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But he can’t fucking drive it
like.
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But I bet when people are like,
nice Rolls Royce Stevie, he’s
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like.
What’s that?
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What is that?
Describe it to me.
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Did he say?
Anything when she gave him.
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It’s not.
It was like, thank you and like,
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everybody’s like, what the fuck,
Oprah?
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‘Cause I remember we gave George
Bush hell for waving at Stevie
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Wonder.
Remember that?
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Yes.
He waved at Stevie Wonder and
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were like you.
Insensitive fucking monster,
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Read the room and Oprah’s like,
here’s a Cessna, learn to fly
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it.
I’m sure blind people can fly
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planes though.
I mean, there’s less things to
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hit up there, so they just got
to get up.
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How ironic would that be?
Like you can’t have shitty
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vision and fly a plane, but I
bet you can also be blind and
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fly.
But like, so there’s a Reddit
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post of today I learned Oprah
Winfrey bought Stevie Wonder
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Rolls Royce.
So thank you for singing Happy
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Birthday at our 50th birthday
party.
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You click on the link.
No longer exists.
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Yeah, I couldn’t find video of
this.
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They’re scrubbing and everybody
on Reddit, on Reddit, Excuse me,
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It’s like, does she know he’s
blind?
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I wonder if she also hired a
driver for him.
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I mean, he’s got to have a
driver.
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But yeah, like at some point,
almost any gift, it’s going to
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feel like, Why are you giving
that to a blind dude?
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That’s a good point.
Unless it’s like Braille.
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Unless it’s a Braille book.
Yeah, so Stevie Wonder just gets
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books.
That’s the only gift we’re
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allowing.
Stevie Wonder Books, audiobooks,
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books on CD, books on cassette,
things like that.
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And This is why this conspiracy
doesn’t get taken seriously is
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’cause it’s very funny.
You know, Like, it’s so fucking
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funny.
Yeah, yeah.
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I mean, it’s undeniably funny
that Oprah Winfrey gifted him a
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car.
It’s not funny that he’s blind,
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just like that LA comedian
Danielle Perez, who went on
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Price Is Right and won a
treadmill.
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And thing to note about Daniel
Perez wheelchair She’s in a
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wheelchair.
Missing her feet.
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Yes, missing her feet so
treadmill was an odd gift for
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Price is right.
So there’s also pictures of him
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taking pictures of other people.
Does that make sense?
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Like he’s there’s a picture of
him going around of him taking
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pictures of Michael Jackson.
That’s that is weird.
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That is weird.
And it’s like the blind guy in
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the video where he’s defending
Stevie was like, we like to have
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fun sometimes.
And I’m like, yeah, that’s
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funny.
But like Michael Jackson’s into
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the pose.
Like, he’s really going hard at
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this pose, like.
Maybe there was just no one else
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around and Michael Jackson
really needed that fucking
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picture.
And he’s like, Stevie, I need
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you.
Stevie, I need you to break
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character, but like this,
outfits are looking fucking
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dope.
I need this memorialized.
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You got to do it buddy.
Look like a sparkly bandleader
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right now.
Take this picture.
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But also like, this is like the
only conspiracy that I feel like
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celebrities willfully talk
about.
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Oh yeah, but like high profile
ones.
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You are right though.
Like, at least in this list of
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celebrities, it is exclusively
black celebrities.
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Yes, like Matthew McConaughey
isn’t out there.
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Like, yo, Stevie Wonder can
fucking see you guys.
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Is this going to be my niche?
Is this going to be like my
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Beatles moment where I just
steal from the black community
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and like run and make a career
out of Stevie Wonder?
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Can see.
I hope not.
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That’d be fucking sad.
Like, I just go full Stevie
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Truther all the time, all five
episodes a week.
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There’s so many videos of it
though.
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But like, I feel like a lot of
those videos are like mean
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spirited where he’s at like a
basketball game and they’re
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like, what the fuck does he need
to he can’t see the game.
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Like why does he have good
seats?
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And I’m like, we’re not doing
that here.
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Like he could enjoy his life.
It’s a lot of like he’s doing
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mundane things.
Fuck this guy.
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He’s lying to us and.
It’s not just that, It’s a lot
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of why is he enjoying his life?
Yeah, I just think him getting a
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car is fucking SUS fucking SUS
man.
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Yeah, the car thing is weird.
And yeah, let’s talk about some
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of the celebrity stories.
Speaking of cars, Lionel Richie.
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Lionel Richie is like, oh, you
know, Stevie Wonder.
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I saw him driving in my
neighborhood.
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Well, he didn’t say that.
He was backing out from his
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driveway.
He’s like, I saw Stevie Wonder
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backing out from his driveway.
Well, I’ve tracked down the
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video where he tells the story
and he says that he and Stevie
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Wonder were both in the car and
Stevie Wonder.
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When they get in the car for
some reason, Stevie Wonder’s
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like, I want to get in the
driver’s seat because he thought
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they were just like going to hop
in this car to like talk or
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something.
And either that or Lionel Richie
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was like, fuck it, you’re Stevie
Wonder.
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If you want to try and drive, go
ahead.
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But he said, Stevie Wonder turn
the car on and then did that
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thing where you put your arm
around the passenger seat and
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look behind you to start backing
up.
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And that he started backing up.
But then he stopped and like,
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said I gotcha.
Like he was just joking.
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Again, having way too much fun
being blind.
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Yeah, and where’d he learn the
Put your armor on the seat and
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look back thing.
Where do you know where the
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ignition was?
Like Lionel Richie wasn’t like I
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saw him bumbling for the keys.
It was smooth.
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Yeah, Lionel Richie I think
would have mentioned that if if
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it took him like 22 attempts to
get to 2 in the end, I I assume
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he would have brought that part
up.
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So yeah, I guess that is
interesting.
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But again, it wasn’t.
It was just like, apropos of
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nothing.
Like, no one was like, tell us
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your best Stevie Wonder story.
Like, all these people are
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willfully giving up these
stories.
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Yes, yes, right.
Like the next one, Shaq.
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Him and Shaq used to live in
like the same apartment
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building.
Right.
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And Shaq got on the elevator.
And then Stevie Wonder got on
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the elevator and was like, hi,
Shaq, how are you?
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And Shaq’s like, how did you
even know I was here?
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Do you?
Think Shaq has a scent?
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Oh.
Maybe.
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Everyone has a scent.
Every house has a scent.
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Like we all have our own fucking
aroma.
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And Shaq’s might just be
pungent.
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Stevie Wonder might have like
seen Shaq coming, so to speak,
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like before that elevator door
even opened.
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So, like, my dad was like an
enormous guy who’s a very heavy
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set guy, right?
But there’s some parts to him he
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couldn’t clean.
So maybe Shaq is like the same
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way.
He’s just like, there’s just a
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fold, like right behind the 11th
rib that he just doesn’t wash
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and it’s just musty.
That could be.
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See, we nailed it.
But then also, Stevie Wonder’s a
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musician.
We’re also kind of ignoring the
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fact that he plays piano and is
blind.
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So with Shaq, if this was a
place they both lived, Stevie
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Wonder’s going to have some
muscle memory built up when it
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comes to hitting that button.
And then, you know, like
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Braille.
Like all of those, hotel
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elevator buttons tend to have
Braille.
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But knowing it’s it’s it was
Shaq.
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Like that’s the weird part.
That part is weird.
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That part is weird.
I bet it’s a combination of
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scent, and I bet Shaq breathes
heavy.
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Oh yeah.
Oh yeah, 1,000,000%.
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Because he’s massive, everything
he does is like a strain on his
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00:23:07,240 –> 00:23:10,720
body.
Dude, I remember as a kid I met
432
00:23:10,720 –> 00:23:12,320
Rasheed Wallace.
Yeah.
433
00:23:12,880 –> 00:23:16,080
His kid was in the same class as
me in like third grade, 2nd
434
00:23:16,080 –> 00:23:19,240
grade, But I just remember him
walking in the room and then
435
00:23:19,240 –> 00:23:21,040
like, crouching to get in the
door.
436
00:23:21,200 –> 00:23:24,400
And he was not even shackite.
But I remember I walked up to
437
00:23:24,400 –> 00:23:26,440
him and I was like, yo, dude,
could you pick me up so I can
438
00:23:26,440 –> 00:23:29,120
touch the door?
And then a line of us kids and
439
00:23:29,120 –> 00:23:30,800
he picked us all up so we can
hit the door.
440
00:23:30,800 –> 00:23:33,240
He was like the nicest guy.
He was the best.
441
00:23:33,360 –> 00:23:34,960
That’s great.
Donald Glover.
442
00:23:35,480 –> 00:23:37,280
Donald Glover I think I can
explain.
443
00:23:37,480 –> 00:23:39,840
Please explain it.
Well, Donald Glover’s whole
444
00:23:39,840 –> 00:23:44,840
thing is he wanted to use some
of Stevie Wonder’s music in an
445
00:23:44,840 –> 00:23:48,840
episode of Atlanta.
And he said he was texting with
446
00:23:48,840 –> 00:23:51,160
Stevie Wonder about it.
And that was his first thing.
447
00:23:51,160 –> 00:23:52,560
He was like, how does he even
text?
448
00:23:52,560 –> 00:23:55,040
And it’s like, of course blind
people can text.
449
00:23:55,040 –> 00:23:57,000
Yeah, voice.
Yeah, voice.
450
00:23:57,200 –> 00:24:00,680
That’s very easy.
But his next thing was, well,
451
00:24:00,680 –> 00:24:03,520
Stevie Wonder was like, I want
to watch the episode first.
452
00:24:03,840 –> 00:24:06,280
And that’s where Donald Glover
was like what?
453
00:24:06,320 –> 00:24:07,440
How?
What do you mean you want to
454
00:24:07,440 –> 00:24:11,800
watch the episode?
And I know because I
455
00:24:11,800 –> 00:24:17,800
accidentally enabled it once,
There’s a setting on most TV’s
456
00:24:18,480 –> 00:24:24,120
that it’s like closed captioning
but for the movement and action.
457
00:24:24,400 –> 00:24:28,440
So instead of the words popping
up on the screen, there’s a
458
00:24:28,440 –> 00:24:32,880
voice that’s like Stevie Wonder
jumps in the car and starts the
459
00:24:32,880 –> 00:24:37,480
ignition.
Stevie Wonder drives away and I
460
00:24:37,480 –> 00:24:41,760
enabled it on accident somehow.
But it was on a show called The
461
00:24:41,760 –> 00:24:46,000
Good Fight, which is a very
weird and quirky show that does
462
00:24:46,040 –> 00:24:50,800
like strange shit sometimes.
And for like 10 minutes I was
463
00:24:50,800 –> 00:24:54,000
like, is this going somewhere?
Like, why are they having this,
464
00:24:54,000 –> 00:24:56,640
like, voice over?
Describe every movement?
465
00:24:56,640 –> 00:25:00,040
Like, what is, how is this
integral to the plot?
466
00:25:00,160 –> 00:25:03,760
And then eventually I was like,
oh, this is for blind people.
467
00:25:03,880 –> 00:25:05,280
Yeah, that’s what’s going on
here.
468
00:25:05,280 –> 00:25:07,440
This is for blind people.
The Donald Glover one, I think
469
00:25:07,440 –> 00:25:08,760
might be the it’s the weakest
one.
470
00:25:08,840 –> 00:25:10,080
Like that one is the weakest
one.
471
00:25:10,240 –> 00:25:13,040
But I I forgot one.
The Boy, George One.
472
00:25:13,240 –> 00:25:16,000
Oh yeah, that’s there’s a
Deadspin article.
473
00:25:16,160 –> 00:25:19,600
Yes, I think one of Stevie
Wonder’s friends where like they
474
00:25:19,600 –> 00:25:23,960
saw them choke Boy George at a
party, like went up to him
475
00:25:23,960 –> 00:25:25,760
through a crowd of people and
just choked them.
476
00:25:25,920 –> 00:25:28,800
Yeah, that is an anecdote that’s
out there.
477
00:25:29,200 –> 00:25:32,800
There’s just like no proof.
Isn’t it just someone saying
478
00:25:32,800 –> 00:25:35,800
they heard Boy George say in an
interview?
479
00:25:35,800 –> 00:25:38,280
Like, don’t even have the Boy
George interview.
480
00:25:38,480 –> 00:25:42,200
No, it says.
The quote is hollaback.
481
00:25:42,200 –> 00:25:46,240
Boy now I know why I didn’t put
it in from to seeing Boy George
482
00:25:46,240 –> 00:25:48,640
telling unknown interviewed
about drunk memory of his which
483
00:25:48,640 –> 00:25:51,880
is wonder choked him out No
that’s why it happened.
484
00:25:51,880 –> 00:25:55,160
It was a week the Stevie Wonder
one or excuse me, Steve Harvey
485
00:25:55,160 –> 00:25:56,520
one the.
Steve Harvey.
486
00:25:56,520 –> 00:25:59,760
One I couldn’t find.
He like, played a prank on Steve
487
00:25:59,760 –> 00:26:00,800
Harvey.
Is that correct?
488
00:26:01,040 –> 00:26:03,560
Sort of.
So Steve I got the Steve Harvey
489
00:26:03,560 –> 00:26:05,160
one and Lionel Richie one
confused.
490
00:26:05,160 –> 00:26:08,040
Where Steve Harvey at?
Like the end of an episode of
491
00:26:08,040 –> 00:26:10,680
Family Feud?
It was in like, the blind guy
492
00:26:10,880 –> 00:26:13,680
defending Stevie Video, an
episode of Family Feud.
493
00:26:13,680 –> 00:26:17,440
At the end of it, he just does
like a set where he’s like, I
494
00:26:17,440 –> 00:26:19,920
fucking saw Stevie Wonder drive
around in my neighborhood.
495
00:26:20,040 –> 00:26:23,200
Like he could fucking see, like
literally dropping F bombs after
496
00:26:23,200 –> 00:26:24,560
Family Feud.
It’s like, he’s like, he can
497
00:26:24,560 –> 00:26:27,400
fucking see like he’s fucking
lying all everybody.
498
00:26:27,600 –> 00:26:29,440
Like he just goes off with
Stevie Wonder.
499
00:26:29,440 –> 00:26:31,640
Steve Harvey was cursing.
Yes.
500
00:26:31,640 –> 00:26:33,800
Wow.
Because he, like, very famously
501
00:26:33,800 –> 00:26:35,560
stopped cursing.
Correct.
502
00:26:35,800 –> 00:26:40,120
So that’s why I was like, oh
damn, he this is this serious.
503
00:26:40,400 –> 00:26:43,200
If he’s like, he can fucking see
like he’s fucking lying
504
00:26:43,200 –> 00:26:44,560
everybody.
Like he’s like, I fucking saw
505
00:26:44,560 –> 00:26:47,040
him drive through my neighbor.
He’s like he was going slow, but
506
00:26:47,040 –> 00:26:47,960
he’s driving through my
neighbor.
507
00:26:48,280 –> 00:26:51,880
Wouldn’t that be risky, though,
If you’re Stevie Wonder, Yes,
508
00:26:53,280 –> 00:26:55,320
absolutely.
Because it’s not like he can
509
00:26:55,320 –> 00:27:00,880
just go to Subway or something.
Like everyone in the world is
510
00:27:00,880 –> 00:27:04,480
going to be like you, Sir.
Or Stevie Wonder.
511
00:27:04,680 –> 00:27:07,480
But.
Nobody or asking these people to
512
00:27:07,680 –> 00:27:10,880
say this is the crazy part, you
know what I mean?
513
00:27:10,880 –> 00:27:14,200
Like, no one’s like, what’s your
stance on Stevie Wonder’s if you
514
00:27:14,200 –> 00:27:15,960
can see or not?
Like, they just are.
515
00:27:15,960 –> 00:27:18,480
Like, yeah, yeah, yeah, Nuggets
are great, but Stevie Wonder
516
00:27:18,480 –> 00:27:21,520
could fucking see like.
It’s crazy.
517
00:27:21,600 –> 00:27:25,080
The Anthony Anderson one I
thought was a little
518
00:27:25,320 –> 00:27:28,000
interesting.
Where he’s just saying, hey, I
519
00:27:28,000 –> 00:27:31,080
know he could see, put things in
front of him and watch him dodge
520
00:27:31,080 –> 00:27:34,200
everything.
Yeah, ’cause what he says is
521
00:27:34,200 –> 00:27:38,920
that they were at a party and
Stevie Wonder just walked up to
522
00:27:38,920 –> 00:27:41,160
him and was like, hey, Anthony,
will you take me over to the
523
00:27:41,160 –> 00:27:43,360
piano?
And Anthony Anderson was like,
524
00:27:43,480 –> 00:27:46,720
what if, you know, if you just
walked up to me and knew it was
525
00:27:46,720 –> 00:27:49,640
me, seems like you could just
get to the piano, too.
526
00:27:49,640 –> 00:27:52,960
What’s going on?
And he’s like, Anthony Anderson
527
00:27:52,960 –> 00:27:55,800
seems serious about it.
He’s like, he had to start
528
00:27:55,800 –> 00:27:57,680
playing it off, ’cause he knows
he slipped up.
529
00:27:57,760 –> 00:28:02,960
But Stevie Wonder can see.
And like, nobody’s asking them,
530
00:28:03,120 –> 00:28:04,800
like, was Anthony Anderson
there?
531
00:28:04,800 –> 00:28:07,240
Like promote like a show.
He’s on a late, it was on a late
532
00:28:07,240 –> 00:28:08,240
night show, he’s there to
promote it.
533
00:28:08,240 –> 00:28:09,600
And then he just goes into this
tangent.
534
00:28:09,760 –> 00:28:13,200
Yeah, he was all dolled up too,
so he was promoting something
535
00:28:13,400 –> 00:28:16,320
serious.
The most serious one is by
536
00:28:16,320 –> 00:28:19,040
Beaumani Jones though.
Beaumani Jones will have to go
537
00:28:19,040 –> 00:28:21,400
into in detail, but we should
talk about Chica.
538
00:28:21,480 –> 00:28:26,320
Chica just said he can use zoom.
Yeah, and in that article, she
539
00:28:26,320 –> 00:28:28,400
was like that.
That was for me.
540
00:28:28,400 –> 00:28:31,200
That wasn’t for him.
Like we could have just talked
541
00:28:31,200 –> 00:28:33,600
on the phone, but I wanted to
see Stevie Wonder.
542
00:28:33,600 –> 00:28:37,240
OK, that’s another weak link.
You selfish monster, chica.
543
00:28:38,760 –> 00:28:42,040
The Beaumonti one is serious.
Yeah, the Beaumonti one.
544
00:28:42,040 –> 00:28:46,760
He really, really means it.
Where it’s just someone taking a
545
00:28:46,800 –> 00:28:49,320
recording from their phone of a
recording of a screen of
546
00:28:49,320 –> 00:28:52,960
Beaumonti going in on Stevie
Wonder being able to see.
547
00:28:53,080 –> 00:28:56,680
Yeah, it’s a weird video.
Beaumonti Jones must have like,
548
00:28:56,880 –> 00:28:59,080
deleted it.
I don’t know where he was.
549
00:28:59,080 –> 00:29:01,840
It doesn’t seem like he’s doing
ATV show because Beaumonti
550
00:29:01,840 –> 00:29:03,960
Jones.
For people who don’t know, he’s
551
00:29:04,000 –> 00:29:08,880
a very well respected sports
journalist and commentator.
552
00:29:09,000 –> 00:29:13,080
He had his own show on HBO.
I don’t know if he still does.
553
00:29:13,160 –> 00:29:15,560
It got cancelled.
Yeah, the first episode, the
554
00:29:15,560 –> 00:29:19,040
guest was Stephen A Smith, and
it was one of the most obnoxious
555
00:29:19,040 –> 00:29:21,080
episodes of television I’ve ever
seen.
556
00:29:21,080 –> 00:29:24,440
It was Stephen A Smith mostly
talking about how he feels like
557
00:29:24,440 –> 00:29:27,880
he is as famous as the athletes
he covers.
558
00:29:27,880 –> 00:29:32,320
It’s like, you know, we’re not.
I I could see his point to what
559
00:29:32,320 –> 00:29:36,680
extent, but it depends.
I mean, within the sports world,
560
00:29:36,680 –> 00:29:41,120
like if you’re like a sports
debate show person, Stephen A
561
00:29:41,160 –> 00:29:44,960
Smith is super famous.
But that, I mean, he’s on
562
00:29:45,280 –> 00:29:47,760
General Hospital too.
So I guess there’s that.
563
00:29:47,840 –> 00:29:49,760
Is Stephen A Smith on General
Hospital?
564
00:29:50,000 –> 00:29:52,920
Yeah, he has a recurring role on
General Hospital.
565
00:29:52,920 –> 00:29:58,600
I forget what his name is, what
he plays like a shadowy figure
566
00:29:58,720 –> 00:30:00,720
on.
Yeah, what’s his character name?
567
00:30:00,880 –> 00:30:02,280
I have no idea.
Brick.
568
00:30:02,600 –> 00:30:05,480
His name is Brick on General
Hospital.
569
00:30:05,640 –> 00:30:07,080
It’s true.
I believe it.
570
00:30:07,360 –> 00:30:10,160
I believe it.
Now there’s Spomani Jones video.
571
00:30:10,160 –> 00:30:13,600
It’s a four parter, but it’s
clearly before he was doing
572
00:30:13,600 –> 00:30:15,720
well, right?
Like he looks very rough.
573
00:30:15,800 –> 00:30:20,280
Well, it might just be an old
video too, because this dates
574
00:30:20,280 –> 00:30:23,120
back to 2010.
Yes, this could be him on the
575
00:30:23,120 –> 00:30:25,640
webcam in like 2K12 or
something.
576
00:30:27,120 –> 00:30:29,240
He’s just saying that Stevie
Wonder was trying to get on
577
00:30:29,240 –> 00:30:32,640
Dancing with the Stars.
That’s you go into it because I
578
00:30:32,640 –> 00:30:36,840
did not listen to this.
That’s his main argument is
579
00:30:37,160 –> 00:30:40,480
Stevie Wonder is going on
Dancing with the Stars and his
580
00:30:40,480 –> 00:30:44,280
whole thing is, can you do that
as a blind person?
581
00:30:44,600 –> 00:30:49,520
And I think today we would call
that being a little bit ableist.
582
00:30:49,560 –> 00:30:53,720
I think, yeah.
Because I mean, my thought was,
583
00:30:53,880 –> 00:30:57,880
yeah, of course blind people can
dance like.
584
00:30:58,280 –> 00:31:00,440
And I looked it up.
Have you seen any of those
585
00:31:00,440 –> 00:31:05,640
Instagram videos where it’s like
NBA dance teams and there will
586
00:31:05,640 –> 00:31:10,320
be one girl doing choreography
behind another girl and the girl
587
00:31:10,320 –> 00:31:14,560
in front has to like figure out
the choreography from just the
588
00:31:14,560 –> 00:31:17,240
sounds that are coming from
behind her.
589
00:31:17,800 –> 00:31:20,560
And like 9 times out of 10
they’re able to figure it out.
590
00:31:21,120 –> 00:31:26,120
I’m not blind and I didn’t,
like, take a course to confirm,
591
00:31:26,120 –> 00:31:31,040
but it seems like that’s how it
would work with a blind person.
592
00:31:31,040 –> 00:31:34,360
On Dancing with the Stars, I
also found, I mean, to give
593
00:31:34,360 –> 00:31:37,960
people an idea of just how
possible it is, I found a link
594
00:31:37,960 –> 00:31:44,760
to someone who teaches ballet to
blind people over the Internet.
595
00:31:45,120 –> 00:31:47,520
So yeah, Stevie Wonder could
have been on Dancing With the
596
00:31:47,520 –> 00:31:50,480
Stars.
Let’s just be real for a second.
597
00:31:50,480 –> 00:31:55,520
This conspiracy theory is mainly
ableist because it’s Stevie
598
00:31:55,520 –> 00:31:57,120
Wonder is too good at being
blind.
599
00:31:57,680 –> 00:32:01,720
There’s no way a blind guy is
just good at being blind.
600
00:32:01,840 –> 00:32:04,920
Well, the whole theory is
exactly what we’re doing here.
601
00:32:05,360 –> 00:32:09,560
It’s people who aren’t blind who
don’t have this disability.
602
00:32:09,720 –> 00:32:14,400
Not even asking people who do
have this disability, if any of
603
00:32:14,400 –> 00:32:18,280
this is valid, we’re just like,
listen, I know what I can do as
604
00:32:18,280 –> 00:32:22,040
a person who can see, and I’m
assuming blind people can do
605
00:32:22,040 –> 00:32:26,800
none of it because how would you
do it without your eyes?
606
00:32:26,960 –> 00:32:29,360
And you know it’s because they
got them.
607
00:32:29,360 –> 00:32:31,200
Daredevil senses everywhere
else.
608
00:32:31,520 –> 00:32:35,520
For sure, the Bomani also saying
that his friend sold Stevie
609
00:32:35,520 –> 00:32:37,560
Wonder three plasma TV’s at
once.
610
00:32:37,600 –> 00:32:43,200
Like Stevie Wonder, dressing the
same since 1972.
611
00:32:43,360 –> 00:32:48,280
I like it again, we’re we’re all
assuming blind people just sit
612
00:32:48,280 –> 00:32:52,880
at home in either silence or
they’re only listening to music.
613
00:32:52,880 –> 00:32:56,120
They’re never enjoying movies,
never enjoying TV shows.
614
00:32:56,360 –> 00:32:58,920
Why would you even have ATV you?
Absolutely.
615
00:33:00,520 –> 00:33:03,400
What is wrong with you?
What give that TV back?
616
00:33:03,600 –> 00:33:06,000
Why do you have it?
That’s where this theory is
617
00:33:06,000 –> 00:33:08,800
like, falls apart and gets like,
kind of mean.
618
00:33:09,320 –> 00:33:12,640
Yeah, I am one of the pretense.
Like, it’s weird he fucking
619
00:33:12,640 –> 00:33:14,480
caught that thing and it’s
weird.
620
00:33:14,640 –> 00:33:18,680
He’s like driving cars and isn’t
looking at people’s phones all
621
00:33:18,680 –> 00:33:21,880
the fun shit I get.
Like if he’s at basketball
622
00:33:21,880 –> 00:33:25,400
games, they’re loud and he’s the
courtside, so he’s hearing the
623
00:33:25,400 –> 00:33:26,720
game.
Yeah, like.
624
00:33:26,960 –> 00:33:31,040
And I wouldn’t be surprised if
he’s got like, a thing in where
625
00:33:31,040 –> 00:33:33,640
he can hear it.
Like, yeah, when I went to the
626
00:33:33,760 –> 00:33:35,520
US Open, that was a thing you
could do.
627
00:33:35,520 –> 00:33:37,400
You didn’t even have to be
blind.
628
00:33:37,400 –> 00:33:39,480
You just had to have an American
Express card.
629
00:33:39,800 –> 00:33:43,240
And for free, they would give
you these little radios that you
630
00:33:43,240 –> 00:33:49,040
can attach to your ear that
plays the ESPN broadcast while
631
00:33:49,040 –> 00:33:52,840
you’re watching the US Open.
Yeah, I am sure he’s got
632
00:33:52,840 –> 00:33:57,320
something like that.
And also I just like, I like the
633
00:33:57,320 –> 00:34:01,960
gumption to sit courtside as a
blind person like that.
634
00:34:02,040 –> 00:34:05,960
But we’ll fuck you to everyone
else who could have maybe SAT
635
00:34:05,960 –> 00:34:09,320
courtside and you know, they’re
like, you couldn’t sit in row
636
00:34:09,320 –> 00:34:12,360
three, motherfucker.
You are blocking my view.
637
00:34:13,120 –> 00:34:14,840
Guess we’re all Stevie Wonder
tonight.
638
00:34:14,840 –> 00:34:18,560
Thanks.
Those are again, those arguments
639
00:34:18,560 –> 00:34:21,639
are like the more fucked up ones
where it’s like he has money, he
640
00:34:21,639 –> 00:34:23,760
will sit courtside.
If you saw him with the
641
00:34:23,760 –> 00:34:25,719
nosebleeds, that’d be the
shocking part.
642
00:34:26,920 –> 00:34:28,520
Yes.
Because he can afford better
643
00:34:28,520 –> 00:34:30,600
seats.
Now that would be crazy.
644
00:34:31,880 –> 00:34:37,440
Just where’s Waldo’s Stevie
Wonder and the fucking Row Z,
645
00:34:37,440 –> 00:34:41,040
Section 343.
Like, God damn, how do you get
646
00:34:41,400 –> 00:34:43,120
up there?
He’s by himself.
647
00:34:43,480 –> 00:34:45,880
He’ll be at that seat that’s
like behind the pillar, like
648
00:34:45,880 –> 00:34:48,800
that’s where people want him to
sit, where you can’t even see
649
00:34:48,800 –> 00:34:52,520
the court.
Like, yeah, just tell him he’s
650
00:34:52,520 –> 00:34:56,080
courtside.
Again, and that’s also
651
00:34:56,080 –> 00:34:57,760
everybody’s comments.
So like, why don’t you just
652
00:34:57,760 –> 00:34:59,080
fucking lie to him?
And it’s like, you shouldn’t lie
653
00:34:59,080 –> 00:35:02,360
to him, but like dog he’s it’s
weird that he’s driving.
654
00:35:02,680 –> 00:35:06,680
It’s weird that he can catch
Mike stands like and he it’s
655
00:35:06,680 –> 00:35:09,800
weird that he’s all he’s cool
with all these jokes about him
656
00:35:09,960 –> 00:35:12,560
like.
Yeah, that part is, I mean, but
657
00:35:12,560 –> 00:35:15,920
I mean, you know, he’s just just
a good-natured guy do.
658
00:35:16,280 –> 00:35:20,480
You do you have more on Bomani?
Well, it really is him kind of
659
00:35:20,480 –> 00:35:24,800
repeatedly going back to the
Dancing with the Stars thing.
660
00:35:25,080 –> 00:35:30,480
And then he does go on a sort of
rant about people getting mad
661
00:35:30,480 –> 00:35:35,280
about this theory.
And his point is basically, I’m
662
00:35:35,280 –> 00:35:39,640
wishing vision on Stevie Wonder.
You’re wishing blindness on
663
00:35:39,640 –> 00:35:42,040
Stevie Wonder.
Why am IA bad person?
664
00:35:42,600 –> 00:35:46,480
Like, I hope he can see like
that’s what I want.
665
00:35:46,520 –> 00:35:49,680
Which that’s true.
And that’s, I mean, I think that
666
00:35:49,680 –> 00:35:55,480
is the part that makes this
conspiracy seem harmless.
667
00:35:55,760 –> 00:35:58,000
Yeah.
Is the the part where it’s like,
668
00:35:58,000 –> 00:36:00,840
well, yeah, like who cares if
Stevie Wonder can see?
669
00:36:00,840 –> 00:36:03,920
And I I still maintain, like,
cool, that’s great.
670
00:36:03,960 –> 00:36:07,320
If Stevie Wonder, like, regained
his vision at some point and is
671
00:36:07,320 –> 00:36:11,240
just pretending, that’s great.
I’m happy Stevie Wonder can see
672
00:36:11,240 –> 00:36:12,280
again.
Right.
673
00:36:12,280 –> 00:36:16,560
Like, ’cause it’s not like he
directly profited from being
674
00:36:16,560 –> 00:36:20,000
blind, if that makes sense.
Like, he’s not like a he’s not
675
00:36:20,000 –> 00:36:24,040
like a 24/7 GoFundMe because I’m
blind and just stealing people’s
676
00:36:24,040 –> 00:36:25,960
money.
These were the most talented
677
00:36:25,960 –> 00:36:28,160
musicians of all time.
Like, that’s it.
678
00:36:28,320 –> 00:36:30,120
So I think.
I think that’s also why this
679
00:36:30,120 –> 00:36:33,960
conspiracy is just so much fun,
is because he’s an enormous
680
00:36:33,960 –> 00:36:38,080
success and it’s just kind of
funny if he just wasn’t blind
681
00:36:38,080 –> 00:36:39,840
and he was just fucking with
everybody.
682
00:36:40,040 –> 00:36:42,560
Yeah, I agree.
It’s mostly harmless.
683
00:36:42,560 –> 00:36:46,960
It’s just the it’s it’s that so
much of it and it just kind of
684
00:36:46,960 –> 00:36:50,680
like registered as we were
recording this that like so much
685
00:36:50,680 –> 00:36:57,400
of it boils down to, well, blind
people can’t do stuff And like,
686
00:36:57,480 –> 00:37:01,720
yeah, they can like and and like
think about, all right.
687
00:37:01,720 –> 00:37:07,200
Like imagine you were blind and
you had to walk to the store,
688
00:37:07,480 –> 00:37:11,800
the nearest store.
Like imagine if someone put
689
00:37:11,800 –> 00:37:15,520
goggles on you that made you
blind and you had to walk to the
690
00:37:15,520 –> 00:37:16,520
store.
You would die.
691
00:37:16,520 –> 00:37:19,960
Like you’d probably die in
traffic or a fall or something.
692
00:37:20,200 –> 00:37:25,360
But then at the same time, think
about what a blind person needs
693
00:37:25,480 –> 00:37:28,400
to make that journey.
Like basically a stick.
694
00:37:28,720 –> 00:37:35,040
And for the fucking crosswalks
to be like dope, dope, dope, and
695
00:37:35,040 –> 00:37:36,480
that’s it.
They got it figured out.
696
00:37:36,480 –> 00:37:40,680
So like once you get that part
down, I bet it’s a lot like
697
00:37:40,800 –> 00:37:44,560
playing guitar where you just
get fucking better at it as time
698
00:37:45,120 –> 00:37:48,880
goes on and eventually it’s like
you kind of have eyes.
699
00:37:48,880 –> 00:37:53,320
I bet like the rest of your
senses probably get a little
700
00:37:53,320 –> 00:37:55,840
more fine-tuned.
I would sure as shit hope.
701
00:37:56,000 –> 00:37:57,960
For sure.
And it’s like, again, I think
702
00:37:58,160 –> 00:38:02,680
we’ve done a good job of not
being like, what the fuck?
703
00:38:02,680 –> 00:38:04,880
You shouldn’t be able, you
should be enjoying himself.
704
00:38:05,360 –> 00:38:08,400
Like not Dude, go do your thing.
But it’s like, it’s weird that
705
00:38:08,400 –> 00:38:10,560
you you can catch things.
It’s weird.
706
00:38:10,880 –> 00:38:14,400
It’s the mic stand thing.
Will always be weird to me
707
00:38:14,400 –> 00:38:16,640
because that’s like that’s so
quick.
708
00:38:16,680 –> 00:38:20,080
I would at least expect that it
would just fall and Stevie
709
00:38:20,080 –> 00:38:21,320
Wonder would be like, what was
that?
710
00:38:21,440 –> 00:38:23,040
What happened?
It was like when Daredevil
711
00:38:23,040 –> 00:38:25,560
caught that brick in like the
Spider Man movie.
712
00:38:26,520 –> 00:38:31,720
It’s an impressive video.
Yeah, but here’s my speculation,
713
00:38:31,840 –> 00:38:34,480
OK?
About what adds this fuel to me
714
00:38:34,480 –> 00:38:38,200
is I saw him live.
He maneuvered around the stage
715
00:38:38,200 –> 00:38:40,400
like a pro, like he didn’t have
no one helping him.
716
00:38:40,520 –> 00:38:44,240
That was fucking crazy.
But this one is my No one
717
00:38:44,240 –> 00:38:48,360
mentions this, but it’s like my
rapper theory, OK?
718
00:38:48,480 –> 00:38:53,400
Where so many rappers use Stevie
Wonder as like a line, right?
719
00:38:53,440 –> 00:38:56,000
Where they’re like, you can’t
see me, you’re blind like
720
00:38:56,000 –> 00:38:58,800
Stevie, like every rapper said
that.
721
00:38:58,960 –> 00:39:02,400
And Stevie Wonder has yet to be
like, fuck, you don’t make fun
722
00:39:02,400 –> 00:39:07,600
of me like he’s been like a
metaphor for brokenness, and
723
00:39:07,600 –> 00:39:11,480
he’s not once defended himself.
Yeah, but he might just not
724
00:39:11,480 –> 00:39:14,120
care, you know?
Maybe he doesn’t listen to rap
725
00:39:14,120 –> 00:39:16,240
music.
Someone of his team has got to
726
00:39:16,240 –> 00:39:18,600
be like, Stevie.
You know they’re associated you
727
00:39:18,600 –> 00:39:21,680
with being broke, right?
Like, right.
728
00:39:21,680 –> 00:39:23,840
Am I crazy?
I actually don’t see that being
729
00:39:23,840 –> 00:39:25,960
a thing Stevie Wonder would care
about.
730
00:39:25,960 –> 00:39:27,960
He’s Stevie Wonder, for one
thing.
731
00:39:27,960 –> 00:39:29,680
He’s got to worry about being
blind.
732
00:39:29,800 –> 00:39:33,160
So that’s fair.
Probably occupying a bunch of
733
00:39:33,160 –> 00:39:35,280
his time.
I just wish she’d be like, yo,
734
00:39:35,280 –> 00:39:37,960
stop using me as a fucking bar.
Like I’m not a fucking bar.
735
00:39:38,160 –> 00:39:40,480
Stop it.
Yeah, I mean, he comes from a
736
00:39:40,480 –> 00:39:44,200
different time.
He’s probably so used to it now
737
00:39:44,480 –> 00:39:48,360
that yeah, like, it just
probably doesn’t register with
738
00:39:48,360 –> 00:39:50,280
him at all.
I didn’t say it was a strong
739
00:39:50,280 –> 00:39:52,840
theory.
I’m just like, yo, if someone
740
00:39:52,840 –> 00:39:55,640
was like, you’re a myth, you’re
not a myth, you’re blind like a
741
00:39:55,640 –> 00:39:57,360
tiff.
I’d be so pissed.
742
00:39:58,120 –> 00:40:00,880
I’d be so fucking mad.
I’d be so mad.
743
00:40:00,880 –> 00:40:03,920
But.
I mean, hey, any publicity’s
744
00:40:03,920 –> 00:40:08,560
good publicity, Even a
conspiracy podcast about how you
745
00:40:08,560 –> 00:40:13,040
might not actually be blind.
But again, in conclusion, there
746
00:40:13,040 –> 00:40:15,640
are levels to blindness.
Just because you’re legally
747
00:40:15,640 –> 00:40:18,000
blind doesn’t mean that you
can’t see anything.
748
00:40:18,120 –> 00:40:21,200
There’s a picture of him without
his glasses on.
749
00:40:21,240 –> 00:40:23,400
He looks super blind.
I was gonna say like his eyes
750
00:40:23,400 –> 00:40:24,600
are.
That’s pretty bad.
751
00:40:24,880 –> 00:40:27,800
Yeah, it doesn’t look like he’s
got great vision.
752
00:40:27,960 –> 00:40:31,520
And normally, I know don’t judge
a book by its cover, but eyes,
753
00:40:31,520 –> 00:40:34,480
you can kind of look at him and
go, oh, you’re not using those
754
00:40:34,480 –> 00:40:37,560
for what they’re for?
Yeah, and if he’s been faking
755
00:40:37,560 –> 00:40:39,280
for this long, it’s fucking
impressive.
756
00:40:39,480 –> 00:40:42,600
Like, I’m not even mad.
It’s like, damn, you fooled
757
00:40:42,600 –> 00:40:44,280
everybody.
You get up to a point where you
758
00:40:44,280 –> 00:40:46,120
already made it and you’re still
doing it.
759
00:40:46,280 –> 00:40:49,760
Yeah, what if it’s just that
he’s such an icon to the blind
760
00:40:49,760 –> 00:40:53,000
community that he’s like, fuck,
I can’t let him know.
761
00:40:53,080 –> 00:40:56,000
It came back, came back.
I can see.
762
00:40:56,000 –> 00:40:58,920
I remember one of those craziest
stories I’ve ever heard.
763
00:40:58,920 –> 00:41:04,160
There was a woman who was blind
and for one of her birthdays she
764
00:41:04,160 –> 00:41:08,280
and her husband decided to
parachute out of a plane.
765
00:41:09,560 –> 00:41:13,280
You know all the other things
people parachute out of Zeppelin
766
00:41:13,600 –> 00:41:16,480
helicopter, Things like that
helicopter would be a smooth
767
00:41:16,520 –> 00:41:20,320
parachute experience.
While she was on the way down
768
00:41:20,320 –> 00:41:24,160
she heard a popping noise in her
head and like 3 days later she
769
00:41:24,160 –> 00:41:27,120
could see again.
And they have like doctors have
770
00:41:27,120 –> 00:41:31,360
no fucking clue what happened.
But maybe it was something like
771
00:41:31,360 –> 00:41:33,640
that.
Well, that’s like like with a
772
00:41:33,640 –> 00:41:35,920
Lasik.
How that got founded or
773
00:41:36,200 –> 00:41:39,560
discovered is because like
someone’s like in a car accident
774
00:41:39,680 –> 00:41:41,520
and they got a bunch of glass in
their eyes.
775
00:41:41,600 –> 00:41:43,080
So they had to take out all the
glass.
776
00:41:43,400 –> 00:41:45,960
And then when the eyes healed
themselves, like the dude’s
777
00:41:45,960 –> 00:41:48,120
vision was better.
So they’re like, why do we just
778
00:41:48,120 –> 00:41:50,640
keep cutting people’s eyes?
Like, this seems to work.
779
00:41:51,160 –> 00:41:56,960
Yeah, But I’m again, I’m like
70% sure that that I believe
780
00:41:56,960 –> 00:42:00,120
this conspiracy but not for the
dickish reasons.
781
00:42:00,200 –> 00:42:03,080
Like I’m in no way being like
you shouldn’t enjoy himself like
782
00:42:03,080 –> 00:42:05,560
he’s rich as shit.
Fucking go crazy.
783
00:42:05,560 –> 00:42:08,600
But the car, I don’t know why
you need that.
784
00:42:09,120 –> 00:42:12,640
It’s a weird gift to give a
blind guy and the fucking catch,
785
00:42:12,640 –> 00:42:17,040
the mic stand catch is insane.
Yeah, that video will always.
786
00:42:17,200 –> 00:42:19,120
That will always hold a place in
my heart.
787
00:42:19,280 –> 00:42:23,120
Even if it can be explained, I
don’t want to hear it.
788
00:42:23,480 –> 00:42:26,520
I don’t want to hear it that
that was Stevie Wonder in that
789
00:42:26,520 –> 00:42:29,760
moment like.
And are we sure Stevie Wonder’s
790
00:42:29,760 –> 00:42:35,400
completely blind?
Because I think I’ve heard that
791
00:42:35,400 –> 00:42:39,440
thing where he like sways from
side to side.
792
00:42:39,600 –> 00:42:41,520
I’ve.
I feel like I’ve heard that.
793
00:42:41,520 –> 00:42:45,320
That’s because some blind people
can like see a little bit of
794
00:42:45,320 –> 00:42:48,000
light and shadows and stuff and.
Then.
795
00:42:48,960 –> 00:42:52,200
It’s him following that.
But that’s just me.
796
00:42:52,280 –> 00:42:54,320
That’s just me riffing.
I would have to.
797
00:42:54,560 –> 00:42:57,400
I would have to do more research
into blindness.
798
00:42:57,400 –> 00:43:00,440
And again, we are not that kind
of podcast.
799
00:43:00,560 –> 00:43:02,840
No.
What do you think we are?
800
00:43:04,080 –> 00:43:06,880
And I hope this hasn’t offended
anybody.
801
00:43:07,160 –> 00:43:09,120
Oh, it’s certainly that’s
probably.
802
00:43:09,480 –> 00:43:10,800
Really.
Oh, I think this is a very
803
00:43:10,800 –> 00:43:13,240
harmless conspiracy, period.
Like.
804
00:43:13,400 –> 00:43:15,800
Yeah.
And I I actually, I don’t think
805
00:43:15,800 –> 00:43:19,640
people will be offended because
I feel like we did do a decent
806
00:43:19,640 –> 00:43:23,040
job of pointing out that, hey,
this is, this is a little blind
807
00:43:23,040 –> 00:43:26,760
people can’t do shit, Yeah.
Far as considered because people
808
00:43:26,760 –> 00:43:28,880
were so mean.
I’ve saw some of the videos
809
00:43:28,880 –> 00:43:31,520
where he’s like, what the fuck
you should fucking why is he in
810
00:43:31,520 –> 00:43:33,040
a Knicks game?
How the fuck does he know the
811
00:43:33,040 –> 00:43:35,400
Knicks are?
It’s like, relax.
812
00:43:35,560 –> 00:43:40,520
He doesn’t need to know that.
Yeah, like and I’m sure like you
813
00:43:40,520 –> 00:43:43,280
hear the descriptions of stuff
and you can probably just sort
814
00:43:43,320 –> 00:43:45,760
of piece it together in your
head.
815
00:43:45,960 –> 00:43:50,040
Yeah, like a backboard.
That’s pretty self-explanatory.
816
00:43:50,040 –> 00:43:52,440
Hoop ball.
Put the ball in the hoop.
817
00:43:52,640 –> 00:43:55,600
Names people.
Some people do it more than
818
00:43:55,600 –> 00:43:59,400
others, like that’s all.
Like, people were listening to
819
00:43:59,400 –> 00:44:04,160
sports exclusively on the radio
for a long, long, long time
820
00:44:04,160 –> 00:44:06,720
before.
Yeah, so you know.
821
00:44:07,280 –> 00:44:09,440
It’s a zany.
It’s a it’s a super zany
822
00:44:09,440 –> 00:44:12,200
conspiracy theory.
I mean, the courtside seats
823
00:44:12,200 –> 00:44:14,840
thing, if anything, just strikes
me as a waste of money.
824
00:44:17,400 –> 00:44:20,520
But he has plenty of it.
So, like, he’s got money to
825
00:44:20,520 –> 00:44:21,920
waste, so it’s fine.
Yeah.
826
00:44:22,120 –> 00:44:26,200
Yeah, I get.
I get why people like cling to
827
00:44:26,240 –> 00:44:30,720
it, because I mean, it is it’s
like a lot of conspiracy
828
00:44:30,720 –> 00:44:35,080
theories in that most of it is
rooted in stuff we don’t know.
829
00:44:35,280 –> 00:44:38,040
We’re like the people pushing
the theory.
830
00:44:38,200 –> 00:44:41,960
Like we’re clearly not experts
on blindness.
831
00:44:42,040 –> 00:44:45,320
And I’m sure if someone would
just ask all of these things can
832
00:44:45,320 –> 00:44:48,440
be pretty easily explained like,
because again we explained some
833
00:44:48,440 –> 00:44:52,360
of them like I guarantee him
watching Atlanta is like TV’s
834
00:44:52,360 –> 00:44:54,760
are set up for that.
Like they do that now and.
835
00:44:54,800 –> 00:44:57,040
Shaq probably fucking smells
like ass.
836
00:44:57,040 –> 00:44:58,800
There’s no way he’s washing
everything.
837
00:44:58,800 –> 00:45:02,120
He’s not getting behind his
kneecaps, right?
838
00:45:02,440 –> 00:45:06,320
And the elevator thing?
Like, I’m sure if it’s a place
839
00:45:06,320 –> 00:45:08,640
he lives, I’m sure he’s
comfortable enough with where
840
00:45:08,640 –> 00:45:12,440
the elevator button is to, like,
use it himself.
841
00:45:12,640 –> 00:45:15,520
Like, again, why do people use
elevators all the time?
842
00:45:15,760 –> 00:45:20,360
And again, I don’t think I’m not
mad you’re you don’t see mad
843
00:45:20,360 –> 00:45:23,880
that like on and off about him
maybe being able to see
844
00:45:24,120 –> 00:45:26,840
everybody’s so mad at him that
are truthers of this.
845
00:45:26,840 –> 00:45:30,560
It’s fucking crazy.
Yeah, that’s nuts.
846
00:45:30,720 –> 00:45:34,280
I don’t know why a person would
be mad at this.
847
00:45:34,360 –> 00:45:38,360
Like so Is it like cultural
appropriation or is it like he’s
848
00:45:38,520 –> 00:45:42,120
stealing from, stealing his act
from the blind community?
849
00:45:42,240 –> 00:45:45,720
Like what is there to be mad
about if Stevie Wonder was
850
00:45:45,720 –> 00:45:48,160
faking this?
It’s like the most harmless
851
00:45:48,160 –> 00:45:51,040
conspiracy theory.
Like yeah, that the government
852
00:45:51,040 –> 00:45:56,520
was behind, 911 lives were lost,
no voice to lose their life
853
00:45:57,240 –> 00:46:00,680
cause fucking Stevie Wonder
might be acting blind.
854
00:46:00,920 –> 00:46:04,200
Yeah, we’re not really accusing
him of much other than like
855
00:46:04,200 –> 00:46:07,240
making his life harder in public
than it needs to be.
856
00:46:07,400 –> 00:46:09,800
I don’t know.
And being funny, being very
857
00:46:09,800 –> 00:46:13,280
funny.
Yeah, Stevie Wonder does seem
858
00:46:13,280 –> 00:46:15,800
like a character.
That’s a thing that comes up in
859
00:46:15,800 –> 00:46:18,440
the We Are the World documentary
too.
860
00:46:18,640 –> 00:46:21,400
He’s just way too amped about
being blind and making jokes
861
00:46:21,440 –> 00:46:23,600
about it.
It’s that’s the off putting
862
00:46:23,600 –> 00:46:26,720
part.
Yeah, and he he does do it in
863
00:46:26,720 –> 00:46:29,320
that documentary.
Oh my God, it’s like Stevie, we
864
00:46:29,320 –> 00:46:32,240
get it all right?
You’re you’re like, you’re fine,
865
00:46:32,240 –> 00:46:33,840
man.
We love you for your music.
866
00:46:34,000 –> 00:46:37,040
Here’s a fun sidebar.
Do you think you can guess who
867
00:46:37,040 –> 00:46:41,440
the rowdiest, drunkest person in
the room was when they recorded
868
00:46:41,440 –> 00:46:43,080
We Are the World?
Sting.
869
00:46:43,240 –> 00:46:45,560
Al Jarreau What?
The fuck is Al Jarreau?
870
00:46:45,560 –> 00:46:48,320
He’s.
I mean, I guess you’ll have to
871
00:46:48,320 –> 00:46:52,480
look him up like he’s an like
he’s an older singer, like he’s
872
00:46:53,000 –> 00:46:57,280
he he’s definitely not the kind
of singer you would think of as
873
00:46:57,280 –> 00:46:59,920
being the fucking drunk guy in
the room.
874
00:46:59,920 –> 00:47:04,000
But he was so hammered.
I don’t know who Al Jarreau is.
875
00:47:04,080 –> 00:47:04,840
That’s.
I don’t.
876
00:47:05,400 –> 00:47:06,400
Wow.
Well, fine.
877
00:47:06,400 –> 00:47:07,640
Never mind.
I take it back.
878
00:47:07,800 –> 00:47:10,880
No, I mean, now that I’m seeing
him, like I’ve heard some of his
879
00:47:10,880 –> 00:47:15,080
shit, but I think he was just
like, super happy to be there.
880
00:47:15,240 –> 00:47:16,760
No, he was.
They talked about it.
881
00:47:16,880 –> 00:47:21,160
He was like pounding bottles of
wine, waiting around to sing his
882
00:47:21,360 –> 00:47:25,280
like one line in the song.
And by the time they finally got
883
00:47:25,280 –> 00:47:30,520
to him singing, he was trashed,
barely sing that one line.
884
00:47:30,600 –> 00:47:33,280
It was pretty great.
He was the 80s man like.
885
00:47:33,440 –> 00:47:34,960
Yeah, yeah.
That’s fine.
886
00:47:35,280 –> 00:47:37,720
So I think that’s our episode,
right?
887
00:47:37,800 –> 00:47:41,520
Yes, I think I still land on the
side of Stevie Wonder being
888
00:47:41,800 –> 00:47:46,560
blind, but superhero blind.
Like the kind of blind that can
889
00:47:46,560 –> 00:47:49,440
catch your falling mic stand.
I all agree to that.
890
00:47:49,520 –> 00:47:52,120
I can agree, yeah, that that is
very plausible.
891
00:47:52,120 –> 00:47:56,080
He’s Stevie Wonder’s Daredevil.
Yeah, like Stevie Wonder is good
892
00:47:56,080 –> 00:47:58,720
at music.
Like he’s one of the best ever
893
00:47:58,720 –> 00:48:00,000
at music.
It.
894
00:48:00,000 –> 00:48:02,040
Yeah.
Should not shock anyone.
895
00:48:02,040 –> 00:48:04,520
That he might be the best at
being blind.
896
00:48:06,040 –> 00:48:09,360
Like he might be the maestro of
being blind.
897
00:48:09,440 –> 00:48:12,640
Like he might be able to drive
and still be blind.
898
00:48:12,960 –> 00:48:16,040
Stevie Wonder his last name is
Wonder.
899
00:48:16,240 –> 00:48:19,320
Atif it’s.
Actually, like Judkins?
900
00:48:20,040 –> 00:48:21,680
Yeah.
His name’s Steveland.
901
00:48:22,120 –> 00:48:23,480
Steveland.
Hardaway.
902
00:48:23,480 –> 00:48:26,080
Judkins.
That’s the weird part is, his
903
00:48:26,080 –> 00:48:28,840
name’s Steveland.
Yeah, yeah.
904
00:48:28,840 –> 00:48:31,560
At least he never has to read
his real first name.
905
00:48:33,000 –> 00:48:37,120
See how weird it looks in print,
’cause it’s it’s not right,
906
00:48:37,120 –> 00:48:40,800
Steve and Steveland’s not even
spelled right.
907
00:48:40,920 –> 00:48:43,320
It should be spelled like
Cleveland, and it’s not.
908
00:48:43,320 –> 00:48:46,600
It’s like Steveland.
Yes, and I copy that right from
909
00:48:46,600 –> 00:48:48,480
Wikipedia.
So, like, it’s not like I fat
910
00:48:48,480 –> 00:48:51,000
fingered it.
Has his name been Stevie Wonder
911
00:48:51,000 –> 00:48:54,840
this whole time?
That’s the conspiracy.
912
00:48:56,000 –> 00:48:58,600
So, all right, we did it.
We did it.
913
00:48:59,480 –> 00:49:01,600
A tiff?
Thank you so much for doing the
914
00:49:01,600 –> 00:49:02,120
pie.
Thank.
915
00:49:02,120 –> 00:49:04,200
You.
I hope the notes were good
916
00:49:04,200 –> 00:49:06,760
enough.
Stevie Wonder is an icon.
917
00:49:06,880 –> 00:49:09,880
Yeah, you are actually the first
person to do notes for one of
918
00:49:09,880 –> 00:49:11,640
these.
Normally people just show up and
919
00:49:11,640 –> 00:49:13,400
talk.
So I appreciate it.
920
00:49:13,440 –> 00:49:14,360
Really.
Yeah.
921
00:49:14,440 –> 00:49:16,720
Yeah.
I felt like this is a lot.
922
00:49:16,720 –> 00:49:19,120
Probably a lot.
How like Stevie Wonder would do
923
00:49:19,120 –> 00:49:21,360
it?
Very bad.
924
00:49:21,520 –> 00:49:24,800
One else, do the notes form and
then the computer, yeah.
925
00:49:25,720 –> 00:49:29,120
I thought you have to do if it’s
your own conspiracy that seems
926
00:49:29,120 –> 00:49:31,480
weird to throw something at you
and have you do homework.
927
00:49:31,600 –> 00:49:33,800
No, I appreciate it.
I appreciate it.
928
00:49:34,160 –> 00:49:35,280
Okay.
Wow.
929
00:49:36,920 –> 00:49:40,720
What do we have to plug before
we get out of here?
930
00:49:40,720 –> 00:49:43,800
We got a new merch store.
You don’t show dot link slash
931
00:49:43,800 –> 00:49:45,640
shop.
You can buy conspiracy the show
932
00:49:45,640 –> 00:49:47,840
Shirts there.
Go do that and follow me on
933
00:49:47,840 –> 00:49:49,400
Instagram at Adam Todd Brown at
TIFF.
934
00:49:49,400 –> 00:49:51,840
What do you got?
Just add a tiff Myers on Twitter
935
00:49:51,840 –> 00:49:53,920
and Instagram.
I’m working on things.
936
00:49:54,000 –> 00:49:57,040
I don’t know if I can talk about
them, so I’m not going to all.
937
00:49:58,440 –> 00:50:00,560
Right.
All right, let’s get out of here
938
00:50:00,560 –> 00:50:01,920
at TIFF.
Say goodbye.
939
00:50:02,080 –> 00:50:03,520
Goodbye.
Goodbye, everybody.
940
00:50:03,520 –> 00:50:12,760
We love you, people of Earth.
Your planet has to be destroyed.
941
00:50:22,680 –> 00:50:24,480
Your planet has to be destroyed.