Conspiracy! The Show 263: The Clinton Body Count

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Welcome to Conspiracy the Show,
the world’s most trusted

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conspiracy theory podcast with
your hosts Adam Todd Brown and

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Olivia Hydar.
Hey everybody, welcome to

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Conspiracy the show.
I’m your host, Adam Todd Brown.

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Joining me is Co host this week.
Connor Mcspadden’s here.

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Hey, hey.
How’s it going, man?

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Good to see you, Adam.
Good to see you also.

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We got a guest, very rare.
We don’t do guests a lot on

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Conspiracy the show comedian
Harry Riley’s here.

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Hello.
How’s it going?

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I’m doing great.
How you guys doing?

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Oh, I’m fantastic.
I can’t complain.

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I’m fresh off a week vacation.
You’re talking about a classic

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today.
Yeah, I can’t believe we’ve

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never covered this before.
We on one of our first episodes,

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we talked about a small aspect
of it.

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Which is the murder of Seth
Rich.

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But this week, we’re talking
about the Clinton body count,

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yeah.
Which was the band Bill Clinton

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started in the 90s.
They released that cop killer

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song.
Wait, no, that’s.

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It’s.
Kind of the free bird of

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conspiracies A.
Little bit.

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This is a really simple theory
to explain.

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It basically claims that Bill
and Hillary Clinton just murder

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anyone who gets in there way.
Like anyone any?

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Yeah, they got a lot of numbers.
Yeah, they’re putting up playoff

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numbers.
I.

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Don’t know even even the ones
that are even slightly plausible

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is kind of a long list.
Yeah, and that’s the thing.

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It’s a highly padded, already
long list.

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There are some examples out
there that aren’t like they’re a

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little suspicious, but I mean,
in the big scheme of things, did

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the Clintons really accomplish
everything they wanted?

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Like I feel like they still run
up against some obstacles.

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I feel like Hillary would be so
annoying carrying out a secret

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murder because she’d want to do
everything by the secret murder

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book.
You know what I mean?

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She’d be a nerd about it.
And the guys at the CIA would be

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like, let’s just just drive him
out in the field and shoot him

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in the head twice.
Come on, what have we we’ve done

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this before.
And she’s like, no, no, no, no.

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So I don’t know.
I I feel like Hillary might not

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be as proliferate as a secret
murderer as I’m as as you maybe

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wanted to be as a fan is all I’m
saying.

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Like I kind of want this theory
to be true.

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I don’t know why.
It’ll make life more

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interesting.
If it’s got some nice

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alliteration to it, Clinton body
count, that’s it’s fun to say,

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oh, it’ll make life more
interesting if, you know, we had

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a president and first lady that
was just bodying people all over

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the place.
Just house the cards and

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motherfuckers left and right,
Yeah.

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I one of my I guess the the.
Doubts I have about this is if

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they were doing this, like those
are the kind of people that

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don’t really pay attention to
like, term limits either.

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Like, I feel like Bill Clinton
would still be in office if this

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was his actual MO.
He probably would have won

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again.
He’s pretty damn.

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You know, we forget how
charismatic he is.

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Oh yeah, If he was allowed to
run for a third term, he would

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have fucking mopped the floor
with George Bush.

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He’s a Rascal.
That’s one way to put it.

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And so this is a theory that’s
been circulating a long, long

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time, at least since Clinton was
president, which that alone was

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a long damn time ago.
And it’s one of those theories

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that’s both true and false,
because all of the people named

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here did die.
Like there’s no one on the

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Clinton bout body count list
who’s like, no, actually, I’m

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I’ve been alive this whole time.
And it’s true that all of the

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people like are kind of
connected to the.

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Except, except for Jeffrey,
Epstein is still alive.

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But that’s a whole other we.
I do actually kind of believe

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that.
Harry, What is your stance on

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Jeffrey Epstein?
Dead or alive?

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Well, he did his shit.
You think so?

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Yeah.
I don’t know.

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You don’t.
You don’t think he could have

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paid his way out of that or and
or been protected by whatever

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government he was working for?
I think so.

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I think it’s a possibility, but
I think it would be more likely

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that they would just kill them
like Trump and Clinton who both

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probably tea bags some young UNS
on that island.

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They probably was like you know
what, let’s just join together

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and and just murder this bitch,
man.

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Let’s get him over with.
It it’s hard for me to see what

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usefulness he has alive.
Yeah, as fun as it As fun as it

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is to dream about old Jeff.
But at the same time, the notion

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that Bill and and or Hillary
Clinton had all these people

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killed is kind of absurd.
Snopes, which is a site that I

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don’t always trust.
Like sometimes you have to be a

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little skeptical of the
debunkers too.

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But they did a pretty thorough
takedown of this theory way

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back.
In the early 2000s and.

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There’s there’s Snopes, like SNL
where different areas were good

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and some areas were bad, like,
oh, this is early 2000s Snopes,

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this is when Kevin Nealon was.
It’s actually pretty good.

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I don’t think so.
I think it’s always been like

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the same husband and wife
running Snopes.

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Really.
Which is like who the fuck are

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they to tell me ML KS family
didn’t successfully sue the

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American government?
To tell me what’s bunker

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exactly.
So they rightly point out that

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this is the kind of conspiracy
theory that relies on just sort

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of wearing people out with as
many examples as possible.

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Because once you’re like 25
names in, you stop asking

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questions like what does the
death of Bill Clinton’s

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chiropractor’s mother have to do
with anything, Which that is.

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One of the names on this
extensive list is.

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His chiropractor’s mom.
It’s like, what the fuck did she

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know?
What does chiropractor even

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know?
Well, here’s the other thing.

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Maybe Bill Clinton just has a
really big mouth and he’s got

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like, fuck, fuck, I got to kill
another pool guy I accidentally

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told him I love as teabag and
young UNS on an island as hairy.

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Yeah.
And there’s also quite a few

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deaths listed that aren’t all
that mysterious like accidents

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do.
Happen.

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In one case, we’ll talk about a
girl tried to wrestle a gun away

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from a guy who was robbing a
Starbucks and like, not the

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victim blame, but that
Starbucks.

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Sure, I I for one thing, I hope
she like, owned it or something.

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Otherwise, why are you trying to
be a hero in that situation?

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Let that man rob that Starbucks
in peace.

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Lady.
Yeah, bitch.

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What’s Fonzie like?
But also, how would Bill Clinton

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have orchestrated something like
that?

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That’s the question to ask with
a lot of these, too.

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It’s like.
What?

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Or Or Adam?
Who else but Bill Clinton could

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have orchestrated something like
that?

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That’s also.
It takes the vast resources of a

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former president to plant a
robber in a Starbucks, at the

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same time subconsciously
developing a hero complex within

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the victim.
I don’t know.

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Just playing devil’s advocate
here.

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Yeah, maybe it’s some MK Ultra
shit could be.

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Oh.
You never know.

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The government loves wasting
money.

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I’m just, I’m let’s just
remember that.

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And another important question
to ask yourself if you are a

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believer in the Clinton body
count conspiracy, which I think

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a lot of people are.
Oh, a lot of people.

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I’ve seen a lot of stickers on a
lot of trucks.

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Yeah, yeah.
Harry, do you know anyone

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personally who is a Clinton body
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No.
But I know a lot of dumb ass

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comedians.
So it’s, it’s, It’s so probably.

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Yeah, I do.
Yeah, I I know comedians.

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So sure.
I I think I know at least one

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comedian who would definitely
vouch for the Clinton body count

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conspiracy, but only because he
I’m.

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I’m right here.
But it’s only because he made a

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stupid joke on Twitter and got
cancelled for it and had to join

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the right wingers.
So now he’s like Duty bound.

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To accept the Clinton body count
conspiracy.

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Ain’t that all?
That is one of the things that

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comes with when you change good
you go like, hey, you kind of

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got to be a Trump guy.
You have to kind of fuck with a

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Clinton body count.
You have to start using and

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selling strange supplements.
All of that but another.

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An important question to ask
yourself if you really are a

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believer in the Clinton body
count conspiracy is what about

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all those people who testified
against Clinton, Who made sexual

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assault allegations against
Clinton without being murdered

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like there’s such a long list?
All the people who investigated

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the Monica Lewinsky scandal like
Monica Lewinsky, Why did none of

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them die?
How come Kenneth Starr?

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Didn’t get fucking OFT.
Yeah, I just saw Monica Lewinsky

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on the Today Show.
She’s she’s writing books and

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shit.
That’s somebody who definitely

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want murdered.
It’d be well if they killed her

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now.
Yeah.

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It would be great, Yeah.
That would.

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That would be a lot of balls if
if it was like an obvious well

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like shot shot herself twice in
the head Type 1.

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Yeah, yeah.
Like the Gary Webb thing.

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Yeah.
Yeah.

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By the time I kind of feel like
Gary Webb.

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Was trying to, like reverse
engineer things and like make

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people think the CIA had their
hand in it.

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Oh, like what I would do if I
killed myself, yeah.

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‘Cause he he shot himself
through the cheek that first

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time and then shot himself in
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It’s like, damn.
You had to know that cheek shot

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wasn’t going to do the job.
Well, ’cause he’s kind of a pro

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on some level.
Yeah.

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Because it was pretty late in
the game for the CIA.

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Like the CIA killed him while he
was still alive.

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Like they fucking in conjunction
with the fucking LA Times.

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Like they really derailed that
guy’s fucking life.

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Yeah, that’s almost better than
just killing someone.

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It’s just destroying their life
to the point that, you know,

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everything that they worked for
is gone.

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That’s that’s almost as good.
That’s what I’m trying to do to

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Connor.
And step, step by step you do

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Adam.
Slowly but surely so.

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The list of names as it pertains
to Clinton have also changed a

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bunch over the years.
So there isn’t really a truly

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definitive list of the Clinton
body count anymore, but there’s

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still lists.
And back when these lists

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started circulating.
What what I like that each fan’s

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interpretation of the list tells
you a little bit about who they

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are, You know, so this really
sort of is how Clinton body

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count people express themselves.
Well, my list has 178, but you

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know, that’s conservative.
Yeah, I miss those BuzzFeed

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quizzes that would tell you
like, what version of the

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Clinton body count conspiracy
you are.

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Those are fun.
Yeah.

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And so back when these lists
started circulating, one of the

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things you heard from all the
true believers was, well, the

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media hasn’t looked into any of
this.

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So how do you know it’s not
true?

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See, I don’t like that that
that’s always a a weird little

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cop out.
When people want to use

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something as a conspiracy, they
go, well, well, the media hasn’t

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looked into it.
It’s like have you checked every

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media outlet?
Because there’s a lot of, you

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know, news gathering
organizations and some of them,

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you know, might want to pick up
on some bullshit.

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So you just got to look and
you’ll find something.

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Shit, I found news report on
some hamster races a couple

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weeks ago.
Everything is getting reported.

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What’s the conspiracy there?
Doping fucking buff ass hamster.

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He’s actually a Guinea pig.
That they.

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They say this hamster’s only six
months old, but it’s from Russia

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and he looks like it’s at least
nine months old and.

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The the thing about that claim
as it pertains to the Clinton

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body count is, yeah, maybe that
was true back then, but.

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This theory started circulating
more than 20 years ago.

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Media outlets have looked into
it since then and not a single

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one has come out of it convinced
that Bill Clinton has had all

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these people killed.
Like, I don’t even think Fox

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News is on board with this.
Maybe like Newsmax when you get

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out into the the fringes.
I was in South Dakota recently

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visiting family and we were
eating at a restaurant and there

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was a news channel on.
And they were just talking about

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Hamas and Israel.
So I didn’t really register like

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what I was watching, ’cause they
had the sound off also.

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And then I looked down in the
corner, fucking Newsmax, like in

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public for for people to
consume.

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That’s what the Midwest is like
now.

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God damn.
Wow.

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That’s like they’re serving Taco
Bell in schools.

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I mean, that’s all right.
Yeah, that would kind of rip

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actually.
Did they not do Pizza Hut at the

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school you went to?
Nope, not not so lucky, Adam.

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Yeah, we had Pizza Hut one
Friday every month.

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They would just come in and.
You could buy pizza from them.

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You know how Pizza Hut works,
man.

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We got to read books to get on
Pizza Hut.

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We did that too.
They just didn’t want us to.

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Like, you know, like when your
cat’s on a schedule and it’s

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like half an hour before and
it’s just standing there looking

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at its bowl, you feel bad.
You wanna hit it with some extra

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food?
That was us.

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Like we, but since I know how
school works, I know that they

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only gave you this little token
of fun so they could make

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everything else slightly less
fun in some way.

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So I’m sure you paid for this
pizza existentially.

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Well, for one thing, if you were
poor, you just did not get to

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participate.
Like, yeah, that’s that’s an

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existential cost that that was.
Yeah, Pizza Hut didn’t show up

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and accept your free lunch card.
Regular ass lunch while all the

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all the middle and upper income
kids were throwing down on.

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Pizza Hut’s about that Cash
money.

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That and making kids read, which
that’s fine.

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So we’re going to go through
some of the more famous examples

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from the Clinton body count list
and just talk about how and why.

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They are all pretty fucking
absurd.

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Like there’s a lot of leaps that
you got to make to get a lot of

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this stuff to stick.
The first example is one I’ve

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already cited, Mary Mahoney.
She was a former White House

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intern and the claim here is
that she was killed because she

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was going to testify about
sexual harassment within.

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The Clinton White House, which
famously is a thing no woman has

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ever been allowed to do without
being murdered.

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So actually, I think I have her
name wrong too.

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It’s Mary Mahone or Mahane.
Come on, let me Google it.

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I don’t want any Clinton body
count fanboys getting in the

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comments.
And me and like, actually it’s

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Mary Mahane.
Yes, Mary Mahane.

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Rest in peace, Mary.
She was again clearly murdered

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by Bill Clinton in the most
obvious way possible, in that

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she was killed during a robbery
at a Starbucks along with two

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other victims.
The thing people point to here

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as being suspicious is that
nothing was taken during the

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robbery.
So clearly, Bill Clinton

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orchestrated all this.
Since the copies of Shania

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Twain’s greatest hits were
intact?

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Exactly.
It’s kind of hard to take stuff

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when you’re busy murdering a
group of people, man.

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Yeah, usually if you’re
murdering people, that means the

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robbery has gone awry.
It is like secondary now.

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Yeah, he was.
He was on.

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He had his mind set on murder
now, and the $35 they had in the

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in the tip jar was like nothing
to him now.

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Yeah, yeah.
This was the heyday of tips at

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Starbucks, probably.
And that’s going to make a lot

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of noise running away with the
change jangling around, it’s

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going to be tough to evade the
authorities.

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And the reason nothing was taken
during the robbery is because

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the perpetrator, Carl, Derrick,
Havard Cooper.

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Good graces.
Yeah, probably one spent a good

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30 minutes telling them what to
write on his cup.

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For what his order is.
That’s an unwieldy ass name.

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But he wasn’t expecting to shoot
anyone like he he robbed the

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Starbucks.
Assuming, well, they’re these

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are Starbucks employees.
They’re not.

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What are.
What’s someone going to do?

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Try to wrestle the gun away from
me so he manages to corral

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everyone into the backroom.
And first, Mary Mahone like

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tried to run away when he fired
a warning shot.

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He managed to get her and
corralled everyone into the

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backroom and that’s where she
tried to wrestle the gun away

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and she was shot in the scuffle
and wanting to leave.

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No other witnesses.
He killed the other two

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employees after that and then he
just left because he assumed,

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well, that was a lot of gunshots
and scream and the police are

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probably on their way, so I
should just get out of here.

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Which still doesn’t make sense
to me, Like how long is it going

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to take to get in that cash
register?

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And grab a scone, You know, I
mean that.

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Yeah, but also, maybe that was
the thing.

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Maybe he realized, Fuck, I
needed one of those to open the

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cash register for me.
That’s what?

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Oh, sure.
Yeah, that’s what happened when

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you just start pulling the
trigger.

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Yeah, and so.
Amateurs all around.

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It still doesn’t explain why she
went for the gun.

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Like, I mean, again, not the
victim blame, but don’t, don’t

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be a hero.
It was the testosterone shots

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that Bill Clinton had been
secretly injecting into her calf

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muscles every morning.
That could be.

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All right.
Let’s talk about Vince Foster.

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He is.
He’s Mount Rushmore material

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when it comes to the Clinton
body count.

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He’s on everybody’s list, yeah,
yeah, he’s, he’s.

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Usually top of the list.
Vince Foster.

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He was White House Deputy
Counsel when he committed

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suicide on the night of July
20th, 1993 by way of a single

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gunshot to the head.
There was no suicide note found,

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but there was a very sad
resignation letter that was

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found in his briefcase about a
week later.

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He had contacted his doctor
about being depressed the day

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before his.
Death And no matter how weird

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the circumstances around this
one are, there’s one really big

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detail that makes his death seem
not suspicious.

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Ken Starr, who was investigating
Bill Clinton for anything he

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could possibly find.
He investigated this and he was

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the third person to investigate
it and he came to the conclusion

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that there was nothing
suspicious about Vince Foster’s

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death.
And like So what else do you

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need to hear like I?
He worked for Hillary Clinton.

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He was going to kill himself.
And didn’t Ken Starr make a big

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deal out of a sperm covered
dress?

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He would have definitely found
something, you know, with a damn

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murder victim if there was
something tied to Clinton in it.

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Good gracious, Yeah, they were
only ever to get ever able to

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get Clinton on, like, perjury,
basically.

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But yeah, Ken Starr, he he left
no God damn stone unturned.

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Like if he could have got
Clinton for fucking murder, he

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would have done it.
Yeah, man, he would have.

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He would have came in his pants
just thinking about it right on

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that blue dress.
Ken Starr’s cross contaminated

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the samples the night before the
investigation.

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All right, how about Paul Tully?
He was the DNC political

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director conspiracy theory
version of his death claims.

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He was found dead in a hotel
room with no apparent cause, and

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that no autopsy was ever
performed.

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There are two minor details that
are wrong about that claim.

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One, there was absolutely an
autopsy performed.

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And two, it did find A cause of
death, which was a massive heart

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attack.
And I know what you’re thinking,

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but how is a strapping young DNC
political insider, probably in

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the best shape government money
can buy come to a heart attack

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at such a young age?
Paul Tully was obese, a heavy

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drinker and a chain smoker in, I
think, like his early 40s, which

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that’s kind of the Holy Trinity
of things that kill people in

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their early 40s.
Yeah, he sounds like a comedian.

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Kinda, yeah.
That’s how I want to go in a

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hotel room.
Yeah, sleep apnea in a hotel

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room.
Yeah, it’s nice to see a

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political operative that’s not
all buttoned up and model UN

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type, You know, a low down and
dirty fella.

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Exactly.
The local coroner at the time

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actually told the Washington
Post that he assumed it was a

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stroke or heart attack even
before he did the autopsy.

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And the autopsy just kind of
confirmed what he already knew.

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But.
Is that what the coroner likes

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to do?
He goes like, all right, I’m

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going to call this one.
Does seem a little unethical.

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Yeah, to be like this fat
bastard here.

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Probably a heart attack.
Heart attack or stroke?

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Dimes to dollars or Clinton
killed him, smothered him with

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his pillow or something.
Yeah, you see a lot of this on

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the Clinton body count lists,
where all it takes is for

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someone to die in a location
that’s not their home.

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And people are like, oh, that’s
suspicious.

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No, people get debauched as hell
when they’re bobblesagged.

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It was killed by Bill Clinton
when he moved that end table.

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Is that what he hit his head on?
I believe so, yeah.

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Yeah, that was crazy.
I don’t have end table hotel or

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room on it so.
Yeah, you’re safe in the motel.

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You.
Then you just catch syphilis.

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All right, let’s talk about Ed
Willey.

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This one is weird, but not weird
in the oh, I think maybe Clinton

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was in on this one.
It’s just the details are

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fucking weird.
Ed Willey was a former Virginia

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State senator and a lawyer.
His wife, Kathleen, was active

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in Democratic state politics.
She eventually testified in the

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Paula Jones lawsuit and claimed
Clinton groped her so obviously

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he had her husband killed, which
is how this theory goes.

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There are a few problems here.
For one, this guy, his death, I

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don’t think I mentioned was
suicide and he had lots of

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motivation to kill himself.
He had stolen $275,000 from an

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organization he worked with and
that was going to be found out

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soon.
He owed the IRS another half,

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$1,000,000.
He left a note addressed to his

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wife that said saying I’m sorry
doesn’t begin to explain, I hope

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one day you will forgive me.
And on top of that, while it is

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true that Bill Clinton is
alleged to have groped Ed

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Willie’s wife, it was happening
at the exact same time Ed Willie

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killed himself.
Damn, that’s cold.

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That is such a weird detail.
But it also makes it pretty

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clear that Ed Willie was not
killed because his wife was

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going to talk about that
groping.

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Or, in his infinite foresight,
Bill Clinton had his murdered at

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the exact same moment he would
make his carnal move.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
He was just comforting her.

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How did he know already?
You know that disturbance in the

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forest you just felt and so
yeah, she was meeting with

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Clinton when the suicide
happened.

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So the chances of him being
involved, Yeah, he just

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literally 0.
Yeah, Clinton just happened to

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be a disgusting jerk and was
feeling up.

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That would be nuts if he, like
had this guy killed in advance.

438
00:25:53,910 –> 00:25:55,710
That that would be a lot of
foresight though.

439
00:25:55,990 –> 00:26:01,070
So Jerry Parks, he is one of the
more mysterious deaths on the

440
00:26:01,070 –> 00:26:03,270
list.
His death was very subtle.

441
00:26:03,270 –> 00:26:07,510
He was shot 10 times with a 9
millimeter handgun after leaving

442
00:26:07,510 –> 00:26:10,310
a Mexican restaurant in Little
Rock.

443
00:26:10,310 –> 00:26:12,470
Which I bet that food.
Sucked.

444
00:26:12,960 –> 00:26:14,600
Oh yeah, that had to be
terrible.

445
00:26:14,600 –> 00:26:17,560
I got Mexican food in Arkansas
once and it was like hamburger

446
00:26:17,560 –> 00:26:20,440
Help Helper and sour cream was
really bad.

447
00:26:22,480 –> 00:26:26,360
That does sound bad.
So the thing about Jerry Parks

448
00:26:26,520 –> 00:26:31,360
is his security company guarded
the Clintons campaign

449
00:26:31,360 –> 00:26:35,000
headquarters in 1992.
And there’s a documentary out

450
00:26:35,000 –> 00:26:39,840
there where Jerry Park’s son
Gary claimed his dad was

451
00:26:39,840 –> 00:26:44,680
gathering a dossier of Bill
Clinton’s various indiscretions,

452
00:26:44,880 –> 00:26:49,880
and that his dad was using that
to blackmail Bill Clinton.

453
00:26:50,040 –> 00:26:53,320
But also, he never, like
produced any of that evidence

454
00:26:53,320 –> 00:26:57,760
his dad was collecting, so
there’s no, like, details about

455
00:26:57,760 –> 00:27:00,280
where that information went.
I know where they went.

456
00:27:01,720 –> 00:27:04,480
Yeah.
Land of Make believe he didn’t

457
00:27:04,520 –> 00:27:09,200
have shit and a homicide
detective investigated this, and

458
00:27:09,200 –> 00:27:12,000
while it remains unsolved, it
seems like the most likely

459
00:27:12,000 –> 00:27:16,480
culprit was Jerry Parks, former
business partner who he had a

460
00:27:16,480 –> 00:27:20,200
massive falling out with.
Who was Bill Clinton?

461
00:27:23,080 –> 00:27:28,840
Chelsea Clinton, actually.
I mean, that is like the oldest

462
00:27:29,200 –> 00:27:31,600
motivation for murder ever is
money.

463
00:27:31,840 –> 00:27:35,600
If some sort of business deal
went awry like this just

464
00:27:35,600 –> 00:27:38,160
doesn’t.
For one thing, it doesn’t fit

465
00:27:38,160 –> 00:27:42,720
the Clinton body count.
MO like, this isn’t a mysterious

466
00:27:42,720 –> 00:27:46,560
suicide.
It’s not someone falling.

467
00:27:46,560 –> 00:27:49,720
I’ll like this is a blatant
assassination.

468
00:27:50,040 –> 00:27:53,320
Yeah.
Which they outsource this one.

469
00:27:54,440 –> 00:27:57,400
He couldn’t get the normal guy,
and he had to switch up his

470
00:27:57,400 –> 00:27:59,080
methods.
Yeah, they called the normal

471
00:27:59,080 –> 00:28:00,360
guy.
And he’s like, no, no, no, no.

472
00:28:00,360 –> 00:28:02,280
My friend’s cool.
Yeah, he’ll just, he’ll just,

473
00:28:02,280 –> 00:28:03,600
he’ll make it look like a
suicide.

474
00:28:03,600 –> 00:28:06,920
No problem.
Clinton calls him the next day.

475
00:28:06,920 –> 00:28:09,920
Like, what the fuck, man?
Talking 10 times.

476
00:28:10,200 –> 00:28:12,280
That was a good Clinton, by the
way.

477
00:28:14,000 –> 00:28:18,040
All right, John Wilson, If this
guy was connected, how come he

478
00:28:18,040 –> 00:28:20,560
still got that HBO show, for one
thing.

479
00:28:22,630 –> 00:28:26,550
But the conspiracy theory here
claims that this guy was a

480
00:28:26,590 –> 00:28:31,470
former Washington DC Council
member who had ties to the

481
00:28:31,470 –> 00:28:36,590
Whitewater scandal and died of a
very suspicious hanging suicide.

482
00:28:36,750 –> 00:28:42,030
I will say a a faked hanging to
me is the most impressive.

483
00:28:42,190 –> 00:28:46,750
Like political assassination
means, that takes some upper

484
00:28:46,750 –> 00:28:48,830
body strength to take some
finesse.

485
00:28:49,270 –> 00:28:51,030
Yeah, you got to hold the guy
down.

486
00:28:51,190 –> 00:28:53,830
You got to write a note.
We are going to make him write a

487
00:28:53,830 –> 00:28:55,750
note if you’re really good,
yeah.

488
00:28:55,830 –> 00:29:01,230
Yeah, make him write that note.
It’s cold blooded.

489
00:29:02,230 –> 00:29:06,230
The truth with this one is that
for starters, this guy had zero

490
00:29:06,230 –> 00:29:09,270
connections to Bill Clinton.
They just lived in the same

491
00:29:09,430 –> 00:29:11,110
city.
That’s Bill City.

492
00:29:13,310 –> 00:29:15,790
Sure is.
He’s had tight control of it

493
00:29:15,790 –> 00:29:20,470
ever since he’s been president.
Other side has had no influence

494
00:29:20,470 –> 00:29:24,630
there at all.
And also John Wilson had a long

495
00:29:24,630 –> 00:29:27,990
history of depression.
He had marital problems and

496
00:29:28,150 –> 00:29:31,190
really important detail.
He had tried to kill himself

497
00:29:31,350 –> 00:29:33,510
four other times.
Damn.

498
00:29:33,790 –> 00:29:36,550
Before this, which is.
Glad he finally got it done.

499
00:29:36,790 –> 00:29:38,870
Yeah, right.
That’s kind of that’s like a

500
00:29:38,870 –> 00:29:43,130
weird way to think about it.
But I feel like with each failed

501
00:29:43,130 –> 00:29:46,650
attempt, you’re just gonna get
more and more depressed.

502
00:29:46,650 –> 00:29:50,530
Like, yeah, I know that’s an old
joke, but like, like you.

503
00:29:50,530 –> 00:29:53,020
Can’t not not that old.
Yeah.

504
00:29:54,260 –> 00:29:55,580
I don’t hear that one all the
time.

505
00:29:56,420 –> 00:29:58,740
And then the third time he
killed himself.

506
00:29:58,740 –> 00:30:02,860
He was even more depressed.
But the fourth time?

507
00:30:02,860 –> 00:30:04,900
Oh my God.
But it would be a little

508
00:30:04,900 –> 00:30:07,340
disheartening to keep trying and
fucking it up.

509
00:30:07,500 –> 00:30:10,260
Oh, sure, yeah, definitely.
It’s like that old joke goes.

510
00:30:12,740 –> 00:30:14,300
I heard it on The Tonight Show
once.

511
00:30:14,460 –> 00:30:16,580
Now, that’ll make you want to
kill yourself four times

512
00:30:16,700 –> 00:30:21,670
watching The Tonight Show.
All right, Paul Wilcher.

513
00:30:21,790 –> 00:30:26,270
This one is a good example of
how literally any death that

514
00:30:26,270 –> 00:30:29,870
happened during the Clinton
administration gets thrown on to

515
00:30:29,870 –> 00:30:33,230
these lists, even when it makes
zero sense.

516
00:30:33,230 –> 00:30:37,630
In this case, Paul Wilcher was
found dead on the toilet in his

517
00:30:37,630 –> 00:30:41,550
home.
Oh yeah, his death was

518
00:30:41,550 –> 00:30:46,290
attributed to natural causes,
and what makes him being killed

519
00:30:46,290 –> 00:30:50,690
by Clinton so unlikely is that
Wiltshire was investigating the

520
00:30:50,690 –> 00:30:57,330
theory that an October surprise
in the 1980 election is

521
00:30:57,450 –> 00:31:01,650
basically what got George Bush
and Ronald Reagan elected.

522
00:31:01,730 –> 00:31:05,250
And the theory is that George
Bush travelled to Paris for a

523
00:31:05,250 –> 00:31:08,930
meeting where he secretly
requested that the release of

524
00:31:08,930 –> 00:31:14,360
those 52 American hostages in
Iran be delayed until after the

525
00:31:14,360 –> 00:31:16,480
election.
And so, like, why would Clinton

526
00:31:16,480 –> 00:31:18,960
have that guy killed?
Why would he have someone who is

527
00:31:18,960 –> 00:31:21,760
investigating the other side
killed?

528
00:31:22,040 –> 00:31:24,920
I feel like George Bush put this
one on the list.

529
00:31:28,840 –> 00:31:32,760
Because if you don’t, yeah, if
it’s a BBC, the Bush body count,

530
00:31:32,800 –> 00:31:36,120
you don’t hear about that one.
Got JFK on it.

531
00:31:36,160 –> 00:31:37,720
Way more impressive.
Body count.

532
00:31:38,080 –> 00:31:40,080
Yeah, that is JFK is on that
one.

533
00:31:40,390 –> 00:31:43,950
And yeah, I don’t there’s
there’s just no reason why he

534
00:31:43,950 –> 00:31:46,350
would have done this.
Also, whenever someone dies on

535
00:31:46,350 –> 00:31:50,910
their toilet, I my assumption is
that they’ve joined Witness

536
00:31:50,910 –> 00:31:53,430
Protection and went to live
wherever Elvis.

537
00:31:53,630 –> 00:31:57,790
Lived in Argentina with all the
form Nazis.

538
00:31:57,790 –> 00:32:02,310
That’s like government code for
like they went to a farm upstate

539
00:32:02,310 –> 00:32:06,110
with Elvis and yeah, yeah,
that’s that’s my head Cannon.

540
00:32:06,350 –> 00:32:08,510
That’s too.
That’s too embarrassing.

541
00:32:08,590 –> 00:32:12,060
I mean just.
Why can’t they just do like back

542
00:32:12,060 –> 00:32:16,140
in the in the old days when
someone died from autoerotic

543
00:32:16,140 –> 00:32:19,580
asphyxiation and just said that
they committed suicide by

544
00:32:19,580 –> 00:32:22,420
hanging or something?
Don’t tell them I was taking a

545
00:32:22,420 –> 00:32:26,820
crap and the crap was so massive
that my heart just gave out.

546
00:32:26,820 –> 00:32:30,740
Don’t tell them that to death on
the toilet.

547
00:32:31,180 –> 00:32:33,860
Well, they just alluded to it by
saying where you died.

548
00:32:36,540 –> 00:32:38,460
That’s your imagination there,
this.

549
00:32:40,460 –> 00:32:45,500
To fucking ate in shit.
All right, let’s talk about Ron

550
00:32:45,500 –> 00:32:47,020
Brown.
No relation.

551
00:32:47,460 –> 00:32:50,620
He was former Commerce
secretary.

552
00:32:50,780 –> 00:32:55,620
He died in a plane crash in
Croatia in 1996.

553
00:32:56,100 –> 00:33:01,540
And on the one hand, I love a
conspiracy theory that involves

554
00:33:01,540 –> 00:33:05,500
a plane crash, because it’s not
like you can’t rig a plane to

555
00:33:05,500 –> 00:33:08,820
crash.
Like, that’s perfectly possible.

556
00:33:09,100 –> 00:33:14,340
But the conspiracy here claims
that an X-ray of Ron Brown’s

557
00:33:14,340 –> 00:33:18,180
skull revealed that he had
actually been shot in the head.

558
00:33:18,220 –> 00:33:21,220
Which like just try to wrap your
head around that.

559
00:33:21,780 –> 00:33:28,180
Like in order, like in Plainview
of 34 other passengers, they

560
00:33:28,180 –> 00:33:32,620
shoot this guy in the head and
then crashed the plane so

561
00:33:32,740 –> 00:33:36,290
there’s no more witnesses.
Like if you were going to crash

562
00:33:36,290 –> 00:33:40,570
the plane, why shoot him?
Just crash the plane also.

563
00:33:40,890 –> 00:33:43,050
Sounds like Bill Clinton really
wanted to make an example out of

564
00:33:43,050 –> 00:33:48,370
this guy.
Also, how did they get off the

565
00:33:48,370 –> 00:33:50,330
plane?
Like, I guess that would be the

566
00:33:50,370 –> 00:33:54,130
easiest answers.
You would parachute out of

567
00:33:54,130 –> 00:33:56,290
there, but.
Oh, Indiana Jones.

568
00:33:56,290 –> 00:33:59,290
It That’s what they did.
Yeah, AB Cooper.

569
00:33:59,410 –> 00:34:04,150
But also, another 14 Commerce
Department staffers died in that

570
00:34:04,150 –> 00:34:06,390
crash.
So you can Add all those names

571
00:34:06,390 –> 00:34:08,110
to this list too, which people
do.

572
00:34:08,230 –> 00:34:10,350
But this was just a plane crash.
Like, why?

573
00:34:10,790 –> 00:34:13,230
Why would you shoot someone in
the head and then cause a plane

574
00:34:13,230 –> 00:34:15,630
crash?
Well, you know the aviation

575
00:34:15,630 –> 00:34:21,630
standards in Croatia in the mid
90s were absolutely tip top, so

576
00:34:21,670 –> 00:34:23,870
it couldn’t have been anything
with to do with those.

577
00:34:24,389 –> 00:34:28,630
Right the this is the same kind
of the same deal with these next

578
00:34:28,630 –> 00:34:33,420
two Kevin Ives and Don Henry.
Oh, and I see this one is this

579
00:34:33,420 –> 00:34:36,500
one.
I have a thing on this one.

580
00:34:36,780 –> 00:34:39,980
Oh, yeah, yeah.
This is a deep conspiracy right

581
00:34:39,980 –> 00:34:42,500
here.
This is all conspiracy theory.

582
00:34:42,699 –> 00:34:46,500
Oh yeah, definitely.
Yeah, these were Kevin Ives and

583
00:34:46,500 –> 00:34:48,780
Don Henry.
There were a couple of teens who

584
00:34:48,980 –> 00:34:52,340
stole from a drug dealer and got
beat to death over.

585
00:34:52,340 –> 00:34:56,620
It basically is what it seems.
And their bodies were placed on

586
00:34:56,620 –> 00:34:59,540
train tracks and they got hit by
a train.

587
00:35:00,230 –> 00:35:04,350
And because this happened in
Arkansas, they got added to the

588
00:35:04,350 –> 00:35:08,590
Clinton body count list because
Bill Clinton is responsible for

589
00:35:08,590 –> 00:35:11,790
every murder that ever happened
in Arkansas.

590
00:35:12,110 –> 00:35:15,190
That’s his state, yeah.
If it goes, it doesn’t go down

591
00:35:15,190 –> 00:35:18,470
there without him knowing about
him, Yeah, yeah, he’s, he’s the

592
00:35:18,470 –> 00:35:22,230
J Prince of Arkansas, you know,
fucking like talking to him.

593
00:35:23,470 –> 00:35:28,040
So from that point on, every
person that these two knew who

594
00:35:28,040 –> 00:35:32,320
have ever died are also included
in the Clinton body count

595
00:35:32,320 –> 00:35:35,240
conspiracy.
And there there are a few

596
00:35:35,240 –> 00:35:37,680
murders of people who before
they died, said they had

597
00:35:37,680 –> 00:35:41,840
information about the death of
Ives and Henry.

598
00:35:41,960 –> 00:35:45,480
But again, those two were
murdered by probably by a drug

599
00:35:45,480 –> 00:35:49,320
dealer for stealing drugs.
So it stands to reason that that

600
00:35:49,400 –> 00:35:54,080
person would also kill witnesses
and things of the like.

601
00:35:54,600 –> 00:35:58,260
Well, they say the well.
This is a whole different

602
00:35:58,260 –> 00:36:04,220
conspiracy theory, but they say
that the people who were dealing

603
00:36:04,220 –> 00:36:09,340
the drugs had a connection to
Clinton and that’s how they kept

604
00:36:09,340 –> 00:36:12,260
the cover up going.
So I I didn’t even know that

605
00:36:12,340 –> 00:36:14,900
they were on the Clinton kill
list.

606
00:36:14,900 –> 00:36:18,740
That’s a whole different
conspiracy that they just rammed

607
00:36:18,740 –> 00:36:21,140
into.
They’re merging universes.

608
00:36:22,710 –> 00:36:24,430
So wait, what?
They were they were kicking up

609
00:36:24,430 –> 00:36:27,310
to Bill Clinton when they were
selling meth on the street.

610
00:36:27,310 –> 00:36:31,790
What were they doing?
Well, so well, they it was like

611
00:36:31,790 –> 00:36:38,830
a lawyer something and they knew
Clinton somehow and when they

612
00:36:38,870 –> 00:36:42,350
were getting investigated,
Clinton shut it down the whole

613
00:36:43,230 –> 00:36:49,070
murder and drug dealing bit.
And that’s how he was connected

614
00:36:49,070 –> 00:36:51,310
to those boys.
Like he didn’t.

615
00:36:52,420 –> 00:36:55,260
Have them killed.
But the person who did the

616
00:36:55,260 –> 00:36:57,660
killing, he kept them out of
jail.

617
00:36:58,060 –> 00:37:00,300
And that’s how that conspiracy
theory went.

618
00:37:00,660 –> 00:37:04,900
Oh yeah.
I mean, I could see that, but

619
00:37:05,780 –> 00:37:08,340
one that would be such a risky
move on.

620
00:37:08,340 –> 00:37:13,340
His part, and also it seems like
it would be a bigger deal in,

621
00:37:13,340 –> 00:37:17,340
like, legitimate political
discussion, because that would

622
00:37:17,340 –> 00:37:22,860
be a thing that would be really
easy to confirm if he killed

623
00:37:23,140 –> 00:37:27,340
some sort of investigation into
a drug dealer that people know

624
00:37:27,340 –> 00:37:31,540
was committing murders.
What we hear about that all the

625
00:37:31,580 –> 00:37:34,140
time.
I still want to check now,

626
00:37:34,140 –> 00:37:38,740
though, because that was the
thing with Jeffrey Epstein.

627
00:37:38,740 –> 00:37:42,420
Like for a long time, people
didn’t realize what his plea

628
00:37:42,420 –> 00:37:48,540
deal was like, and it was pretty
fucking outrageous and it was

629
00:37:48,540 –> 00:37:50,780
clearly, like, politically
motivated.

630
00:37:51,020 –> 00:37:53,170
Yeah.
So, I don’t know, maybe.

631
00:37:53,370 –> 00:37:56,530
But I mean, it was the the 80s,
nineties.

632
00:37:56,650 –> 00:37:59,770
I mean, a lot of stuff could
slip through the cracks, but I

633
00:37:59,770 –> 00:38:01,810
doubt it.
It just seems too.

634
00:38:02,050 –> 00:38:05,490
Why would Bill Clinton be
worrying about, you know, drug

635
00:38:05,490 –> 00:38:09,250
money when he’s got the entire
state of Arkansas to fleece?

636
00:38:09,450 –> 00:38:11,890
Yeah.
Yeah, that’s a much bigger bag.

637
00:38:12,170 –> 00:38:16,610
Yeah, he can treat Arkansas as
like his drugged in instead of.

638
00:38:16,920 –> 00:38:20,080
You know, just just these
nickels and downs.

639
00:38:23,880 –> 00:38:26,800
Yeah.
And so the other thing about the

640
00:38:26,800 –> 00:38:32,640
Clinton body count conspiracy is
you can kind of do this with any

641
00:38:32,960 –> 00:38:38,480
high profile, enough figure.
Like you can find strange deaths

642
00:38:38,800 –> 00:38:42,400
attributed to them.
Like Trump is a good example,

643
00:38:42,400 –> 00:38:43,720
for one.
There’s the hundreds of

644
00:38:43,720 –> 00:38:49,440
thousands of people he killed
with his COVID policies, which I

645
00:38:49,480 –> 00:38:52,280
guess that’s that’s cheating.
That’s padding the list out a

646
00:38:52,280 –> 00:38:54,720
little bit.
But with even with Trump,

647
00:38:54,720 –> 00:38:58,640
there’s a thing that happened in
1989 where these three

648
00:38:58,640 –> 00:39:03,080
executives who ran Trump’s
casinos in Atlantic City were

649
00:39:03,080 –> 00:39:08,600
killed in a helicopter crash.
And at that time, all of those

650
00:39:08,600 –> 00:39:11,880
casinos were struggling a whole
bunch.

651
00:39:12,080 –> 00:39:17,540
And eventually they all failed
and Trump blamed the failure of

652
00:39:17,540 –> 00:39:20,660
those casinos on those 3
executives.

653
00:39:20,860 –> 00:39:24,460
But like, does that mean he
crashed that helicopter?

654
00:39:24,980 –> 00:39:29,220
No, it was actually a freak
accident that was investigated.

655
00:39:29,220 –> 00:39:33,820
He just took the opportunity now
that those three were dead, to

656
00:39:33,820 –> 00:39:36,700
be like, Oh yeah, it was those
three fuck faces who were

657
00:39:36,700 –> 00:39:39,180
fucking things up, not me.
Because what were they going to

658
00:39:39,180 –> 00:39:40,700
do?
Say he was lying.

659
00:39:41,100 –> 00:39:44,100
I wonder, I wonder, how many
rich people die in helicopter

660
00:39:44,100 –> 00:39:46,460
accidents every year?
Because it does seem like that’s

661
00:39:46,460 –> 00:39:48,660
like a natural disaster for
being rich.

662
00:39:48,660 –> 00:39:50,900
You just will randomly get in a
helicopter crash.

663
00:39:51,140 –> 00:39:55,540
Yeah, rich people and Marines,
they all seem seem to die in

664
00:39:55,540 –> 00:39:58,700
helicopters.
Yeah, yeah, like once you’re

665
00:39:58,700 –> 00:40:01,980
beaten traffic with a
helicopter, like you’re, you’re

666
00:40:01,980 –> 00:40:04,530
like.
Upper level like that’s that’s

667
00:40:04,530 –> 00:40:09,130
the extreme 1%, that’s the 1%
test of the 1%.

668
00:40:10,130 –> 00:40:12,530
You go to parties where they use
people like tables.

669
00:40:15,410 –> 00:40:20,570
There is also a conspiracy
theory that claims Russians tied

670
00:40:20,570 –> 00:40:26,050
to Trump’s 2016 election
malfeasance are just dying left

671
00:40:26,050 –> 00:40:29,130
and right.
But there’s like only one name

672
00:40:29,130 –> 00:40:30,850
that people have attached to
that.

673
00:40:30,850 –> 00:40:34,810
It’s a guy named Alex Orinov.
And he was absolutely not

674
00:40:34,810 –> 00:40:38,490
murdered.
His family came out when news of

675
00:40:38,490 –> 00:40:42,730
his death started making the
rounds in 2017, and they came

676
00:40:42,730 –> 00:40:45,370
forward and we’re like, no, he
had a long illness.

677
00:40:45,410 –> 00:40:47,970
He had no connections to Trump.
He just died.

678
00:40:48,450 –> 00:40:52,050
He was not murdered.
And that’s like, the only real

679
00:40:52,050 –> 00:40:55,420
name people attribute to that
conspiracy.

680
00:40:55,420 –> 00:40:57,820
But if you want to believe crazy
shit about Trump.

681
00:40:57,980 –> 00:41:00,900
Well, that’s because that’s
because liberals are lazy and

682
00:41:00,900 –> 00:41:03,500
they didn’t come up with more
people for this list.

683
00:41:03,940 –> 00:41:08,300
Yeah, I wonder if we could get
like a consulting job concocting

684
00:41:08,300 –> 00:41:10,260
conspiracy theories for the
left.

685
00:41:10,660 –> 00:41:13,620
Oh man.
Oh, doing some R&D.

686
00:41:13,620 –> 00:41:15,020
Yeah, they could use some of
that, huh?

687
00:41:15,580 –> 00:41:17,700
Yeah, Really galvanized the
base.

688
00:41:17,860 –> 00:41:20,260
Like there’s plenty of insane
shit you can say about the

689
00:41:20,260 –> 00:41:22,380
right.
That give, give, give my dad

690
00:41:22,380 –> 00:41:29,510
believe in the Trump body count.
Exactly, yeah.

691
00:41:29,510 –> 00:41:34,430
There’s also the JFK one that
all of these people associated

692
00:41:34,670 –> 00:41:38,110
with the JFK assassination, like
witnesses and things.

693
00:41:38,510 –> 00:41:40,710
Oh, I’ve seen.
Yeah, I’ve seen that one too.

694
00:41:40,750 –> 00:41:43,030
And that was just as ridiculous.
Yeah.

695
00:41:43,230 –> 00:41:48,670
I did a sub stack article about
this thing I found at the Reagan

696
00:41:48,670 –> 00:41:51,310
Library.
I went to the Reagan Library

697
00:41:51,310 –> 00:41:56,450
because there was an FBI exhibit
there, and I like crime shit, so

698
00:41:56,450 –> 00:41:58,170
I went to see all the crime
stuff.

699
00:41:58,170 –> 00:42:02,290
They had the funniest thing.
There was their plaque about how

700
00:42:02,410 –> 00:42:05,130
they have always been invested
in civil rights.

701
00:42:06,050 –> 00:42:12,530
Yeah, but on what spot?
But in a gift shop, I was like,

702
00:42:12,810 –> 00:42:15,050
all right, well, I fuck with a
gift shop.

703
00:42:15,210 –> 00:42:17,450
Like, hard.
You put me in a gift shop.

704
00:42:17,450 –> 00:42:21,830
I’m going to buy something, but
I wasn’t going to buy anything

705
00:42:21,990 –> 00:42:24,150
with Reagan’s name on it,
obviously.

706
00:42:24,230 –> 00:42:29,590
Which left me two options.
A massively inflated price wise

707
00:42:29,710 –> 00:42:33,430
bag of just regular ass Jelly
Belly Jelly beans they didn’t

708
00:42:33,430 –> 00:42:36,710
have like Reagan’s.
On them or anything.

709
00:42:36,710 –> 00:42:39,390
It’s just a bag of Jelly beans
and I can get those at

710
00:42:39,390 –> 00:42:43,230
Albertson’s or any number of
locations, which meant the only

711
00:42:43,230 –> 00:42:49,930
other thing I could get was a
souvenir program from the Bobby

712
00:42:49,930 –> 00:42:53,330
Kennedy assassination.
And I’m not fucking joking when

713
00:42:53,330 –> 00:42:59,250
I say it was a souvenir program.
It it’s the weirdest fucking

714
00:42:59,250 –> 00:43:03,170
thing I’ve ever seen.
It came out the day after Bobby

715
00:43:03,170 –> 00:43:08,210
Kennedy was assassinated, and it
already had bullet trajectories

716
00:43:08,530 –> 00:43:12,810
and like all of this information
about his murder.

717
00:43:12,970 –> 00:43:18,070
And it like ended one with there
was this, like, profile of the

718
00:43:18,070 –> 00:43:21,870
Kennedy family and it just said
one son left and it was a

719
00:43:21,870 –> 00:43:27,150
picture of the fucking Kennedy
who dragged the woman into the

720
00:43:27,150 –> 00:43:28,510
water.
Yeah, Ted Kennedy.

721
00:43:28,870 –> 00:43:30,910
Damn.
And there was this picture that

722
00:43:30,910 –> 00:43:36,550
said one son left and then the
next when you flip the page, it

723
00:43:36,550 –> 00:43:40,510
was an article about how crazy
it is that you can still buy

724
00:43:40,510 –> 00:43:45,050
guns through the mail and how
that’s just a recipe for someone

725
00:43:45,050 –> 00:43:48,570
wanting to carry this on to
maybe do the same thing.

726
00:43:48,570 –> 00:43:51,370
And it’s like you’re trying to
get people to kill Ted Kennedy

727
00:43:51,370 –> 00:43:55,450
with this, right?
Obviously what’s happening here,

728
00:43:55,650 –> 00:43:58,210
It’s so goddamn weird.
I still have it.

729
00:43:58,210 –> 00:44:00,050
It came with a certificate of
authenticity.

730
00:44:00,410 –> 00:44:03,690
So it’s like a period piece.
It was something that’s actually

731
00:44:03,690 –> 00:44:06,090
from 1960.
Whatever.

732
00:44:06,410 –> 00:44:13,000
Yeah, it was produced by this
weird publisher in LA who the

733
00:44:13,000 –> 00:44:15,840
only other thing they had
published before that they were

734
00:44:15,840 –> 00:44:20,400
sued for publishing.
Like they just came up with this

735
00:44:20,400 –> 00:44:24,520
idea that if you recopied books
a certain way, you couldn’t be

736
00:44:24,520 –> 00:44:28,360
sued for plagiarism.
And they, like, copied this book

737
00:44:28,360 –> 00:44:33,360
and obviously got sued.
And then I tried as hard as I

738
00:44:33,360 –> 00:44:37,480
could to find out anything about
anything else they put out, and

739
00:44:37,480 –> 00:44:41,240
the only other thing was this
fucking Bobby Kennedy souvenir

740
00:44:41,280 –> 00:44:44,560
assassination program.
That’s so weird.

741
00:44:44,960 –> 00:44:47,160
It’s a short history.
Yeah.

742
00:44:47,160 –> 00:44:49,200
Yeah, maybe I should do an
episode about that thing.

743
00:44:49,480 –> 00:44:51,440
God damn.
Or you could just go read my Sub

744
00:44:51,440 –> 00:44:54,400
Stack article and hey, I think
we’ve made it to the end of this

745
00:44:54,400 –> 00:44:55,880
episode, right?
Read that sub stack.

746
00:44:56,000 –> 00:44:57,800
God damn it.
God damn it.

747
00:44:57,800 –> 00:45:01,120
And I’m going to start using it
more now that my fucking surgery

748
00:45:01,120 –> 00:45:04,200
drama is over and I’m mostly
recovered.

749
00:45:04,640 –> 00:45:06,760
It’s a very long fucking time
for my face to heal.

750
00:45:06,760 –> 00:45:10,610
It’s been miserable, but hey,
thank you both for doing the

751
00:45:10,610 –> 00:45:12,490
pod.
I appreciate it.

752
00:45:12,690 –> 00:45:15,010
Thanks for having me.
Yeah, thanks for having me, man.

753
00:45:15,010 –> 00:45:18,370
I really appreciate it.
This is my, this is my podcast

754
00:45:18,970 –> 00:45:23,130
when it comes, when it comes
out, I’m like, oh shit, I got to

755
00:45:23,170 –> 00:45:25,490
be.
I can’t be around other people.

756
00:45:25,490 –> 00:45:27,570
I got to be.
I got to be chilling in my car

757
00:45:27,570 –> 00:45:31,090
for this one.
Well, thank you for doing it.

758
00:45:31,170 –> 00:45:33,890
I appreciate it.
What do we have to plug?

759
00:45:33,890 –> 00:45:37,250
Me and Connor Have a show
November 10th at the Sardine in

760
00:45:37,250 –> 00:45:39,660
San Diego.
It’s going to be good times.

761
00:45:39,660 –> 00:45:41,460
Lindsay Adams is also on the
lineup.

762
00:45:41,460 –> 00:45:44,460
Kevin Anderson, there’s music
afterwards.

763
00:45:44,460 –> 00:45:46,580
Countless thousands is playing a
set.

764
00:45:46,780 –> 00:45:49,420
Other bands.
Tickets for that will be on

765
00:45:49,420 –> 00:45:51,700
sale.
They’re actually on sale if you

766
00:45:51,700 –> 00:45:54,220
check Dangers.
Instagram, he’s got it posted.

767
00:45:54,220 –> 00:45:57,460
I’ll post it on my Instagram,
which is the other thing I want

768
00:45:57,460 –> 00:46:00,220
to plug at Adam Todd Brown.
That’s where I’m going to start

769
00:46:00,220 –> 00:46:02,980
doing updates about the podcast.
I’m not keeping social media

770
00:46:02,980 –> 00:46:04,620
going for every fucking show I
do.

771
00:46:04,620 –> 00:46:06,340
That’s insane.
It’s insane.

772
00:46:06,340 –> 00:46:07,620
It’s.
Ridiculous.

773
00:46:07,820 –> 00:46:09,700
Hey Harry, what do you got to
plug?

774
00:46:09,980 –> 00:46:14,060
I have a special coming out.
I don’t know if I should call it

775
00:46:14,060 –> 00:46:16,540
a special.
I’ve filmed myself doing comedy

776
00:46:16,700 –> 00:46:18,980
and I’m putting it out on
YouTube this Friday.

777
00:46:19,340 –> 00:46:22,780
It’s called Harry J Riley, The
Return of King Pepper Snake.

778
00:46:23,100 –> 00:46:26,180
Check it out Connor, What do you
got?

779
00:46:26,500 –> 00:46:28,940
I have a special out on YouTube
called Live in Tucson.

780
00:46:28,940 –> 00:46:31,700
You just searched up Connor
Makes Bad in Live in Tucson and

781
00:46:31,700 –> 00:46:33,380
that’s it.
It’s our special.

782
00:46:33,380 –> 00:46:34,500
It’s really funny.
Go check it out.

783
00:46:34,500 –> 00:46:35,500
That’s good.
That’s good.

784
00:46:36,020 –> 00:46:38,610
Oh, thanks man.
Yeah, and I think that’s it.

785
00:46:38,610 –> 00:46:40,610
Let’s get the fuck out of here,
Connor.

786
00:46:40,610 –> 00:46:42,090
Say goodbye.
Goodbye everybody.

787
00:46:42,290 –> 00:46:43,930
Harry, say goodbye.
Bye.

788
00:46:44,570 –> 00:46:51,770
Goodbye everybody.
We love you, people of Earth.

789
00:46:52,650 –> 00:46:54,410
Your planet just has to be
destroyed.