Conspiracy! The Show 238: Too Hot For Alien Con

March 14, 2023

Adam and Olivia try and fail to get press passes to Alien Con 2023, and then decide to go anyway.

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Welcome to conspiracy the show.
The world’s most trusted

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conspiracy theory podcast with
your host, Adam Todd Brown and

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Olivia haydar
Hey, everybody, Welcome to

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conspiracy the show.
I’m Adam Todd Brown.

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Who are you?
And I’m Olivia hide our that

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makes us your hosts and we are
recording in person.

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Yay, we are.
That’s true in the new studio

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setup.
Which no one at home would

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really know about.
Yeah, I had one whole setup in

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here.
The yes, since totally

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different.
Yeah, I had four tables in here.

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Yeah.
There’s and now those are all

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out in the other room.
Don, and it’s just fucking

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couches in here.
Love it.

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I got to say so far.
We’re just starting it out but

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big fan.
Yeah it feels like an upgrade.

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It’s definitely more
comfortable.

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Yeah, we are talking about some
shit.

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Yeah, some kind of shit because
here’s the thing, an event just

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passed here in Los Angeles,
Pasadena a specific, maybe you

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noticed an unusual amount Out of
unknown objects in the Skies

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over Pasadena.
Sure.

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Yeah.
Let me just say what we went to

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alien Khan.
Yeah.

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And it’s funny that you say, if
you noticed all the ships over

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the Skies of Los Angeles because
people at home I shit you not

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when we walked in oh yeah there
was a guy just standing outside

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looking up at the sky and he was
like I’m just looking to see if

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any UFOs.
He literally told the person

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that he was with.
You go on inside I’m going to

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just say I hear Check.
Yeah.

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And then proceeded to do look up
and stay there.

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Yeah.
It’s like is this guy cheating

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on his girlfriend?
And he’s gonna go – someone at

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Starbucks, when?
No.

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No clearly not.
Because we saw him say that he

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just hung out.
Yeah.

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We tried to get press passes.
Yeah.

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Alien Khan, too.
Hot for alien con.

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Yeah.
They shot us down.

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They heard our episode about
Chariots of the Gods simmer like

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excuse us, Eric fun.
A has a featured guest.

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We don’t want you coming here on
our dime.

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Yeah, I don’t know if that’s why
we were rejected because we are

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pretty vocal about Ancient.
Aliens, being some white

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supremacy, shit.
Yes, it could be that or they

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could have just fallen on the
well, you’re not big enough.

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Yeah, which sure that I would
call bullshit on.

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We are actually in the top, I
don’t remember.

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If it’s one percent or three
percent among most follow, And

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shared podcasts on Spotify, hell
you.

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So we do.
Alright.

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So I don’t think no, it’s that
we weren’t big enough.

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And here’s the thing, all they
had to do was be like, hey man,

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sorry, you’re hitting us up late
because I even gave him that

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out.
I was like, it’s like two days

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before, right?
I understand if I’m getting at

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you, too late in the game, I’ll
hit you up next year.

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They had me fill out this form
and I emailed to follow up

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because I had I ain’t heard back
in two days.

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Mmm, and the person just
referred me to an FAQ in the FAQ

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says, if you haven’t heard back
about your request for press

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passes, you were declined, and
it’s like, cool, okay?

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You couldn’t have just said
that.

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Yeah, that would have been easy
and I wrote back and said, okay,

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I’m definitely coming as here’s
the thing tickets for $65 a shot

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Illuminati shit, right?
No.

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It’s a any shit.
I didn’t know that it was a

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Until all of the press pass
thing happens.

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Yeah.
Same because, I guess I didn’t

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realize a, any owns the History
Channel because yesterday,

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aliens is on the History
Channel, right?

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Of course, of course because its
history history, right?

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Surely, it’s what will be taught
in our school books?

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Yes, country someday probably
God, I would not know him, he’s

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gonna put anything other than
the fucking Christian true.

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Bible in there, like, come on.
That’s true.

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That’s good point.
So, yeah, we decided to go

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anyway.
Yes, we did bought tickets, we

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hopped in the car.
My wife came along.

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Yeah, and we descended upon
Pasadena, California.

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We did Alien con 2023 to k23 for
short.

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And at first, I was worried.
We weren’t going to have that

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much to talk about.
Yeah, well we get there and it

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basically just seems like sci-fi
An almost right, but with a few

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more Outsider vendors.
We should mention when we got

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there, initially, something else
happened which is you turn to

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me.
Damn it and really didn’t want

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to talk about fuckin story and
to paraphrase.

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You were like I got a fucking
knife.

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They’re not gonna let me in with
this knife.

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Well I I okay, so we get there
and if you didn’t say it like

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that, I did it.
I almost Just almost did we get

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there?
And there’s of course because

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it’s a huge event with a bunch
of whack going to it.

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There’s a security checkpoint
with a bag.

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Check and the metal detector and
part of my as the kids would

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call it everyday.
Carry sure.

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Part of my everyday carry is to
pocket knives and a bunch of

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weed and I was like, I feel like
they’re not going to like this

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stuff.
Now.

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No, I don’t think we would have
gotten through.

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No I don’t think I would have
and we’re having this

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conversation within earshot of a
security guy who’s watching us

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for I’m like look, I can’t go
through the fuck.

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Imelda sir, I’ve got too many
sauces.

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Guns, out of our pocket session.
Look, I have a utility pocket

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knife that I use for everyday
uses and we’d things and I have

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a personal defense pocket knife
that is scary look Gagging and

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makes people go, I’m not gonna
talk to you anymore.

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And so, you know, I need these
things and I don’t think about

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them is contraband and so in
those fashion that a and he

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wouldn’t let us bring in the
alien.

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God, they said no knives and we
said the 2nd Amendment.

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No.
We said, I guess.

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We’ll walk back to where Angie
park the car and then walk back.

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Fortunately, it wasn’t too far.
It wasn’t.

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But I will say, Was a while my
ass.

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My ass is out of shape and that
was a tough way to begin a day

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that was mostly going to involve
walking around.

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Yeah, there was a lot of water.
So yeah, it was unfortunate but

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and even though they shot me
down for press passes, I’m not

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here to completely trash alien
con, my favorite part of any

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convention like that is always
that area where the merchants

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set up their booths.
I mean that was the highlight.

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I’m well yeah, That was the
highlight like from a personal

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enjoyment standpoint.
Yeah, of the day was going

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around and talking to the
vendors because I really enjoyed

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going around and talking to all
of these vendors.

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Yeah.
And we as people at home would

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expect, we talked to some
characters.

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Yes, there was a guy who made
CBD oil, but all he was my fav.

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Yeah.
Somehow it involved the sunwell

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was no more specifically it
involved.

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A giant Hollow pyramid.
Yes, I guess that is that they

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put that they then put the CBD,
you know, mixture into with the

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weed and shit and then they put
it in the pyramid and he’s like

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the energy comes through the
pyramid.

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I’m like okay sure whatever the
energy goes to the pyramid.

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He’s like other tinctures, you
know, they’ll be yellow but this

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it turns it a nice golden color
here.

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He whipped some out and it
looked like every weed texture

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and make like a yeah, I’m sure
it was good and I was curious.

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About one of his other items
that he was selling and I didn’t

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get the chance to ask because we
had to keep moving but he was

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selling.
It was a little ziplock sandwich

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bag full of what look like
sunflower seeds and they had a

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big pink sticker on the front
that said succeeds.

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Yeah they did.
And I really wanted to know what

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the sex scenes were.
I voted you had but I also

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didn’t want to hear that guy.
Tell me.

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He seemed he was nice.
Like, here’s the thing about and

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I want to be clear.
Basically, everybody that at

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least I talked to, I don’t know
if you maybe talk to some some

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jerks but like basically
everybody that I talked to was

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very nice.
There was one person who was

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also, he was very nice.
He complimented my Mariah Carey

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sweatshirt.
I was, yeah, I like that guy.

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But that guy, he was selling,
like, a bunch of stuff, but one

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of the things he was selling was
On blasters.

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Yes, which is the thing I’ve
talked about on the podcast

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punch.
And I actually bought one one

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point and I keep forgetting.
It looked like a little plastic

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skull.
Yeah, the ones he had he had

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some that were shaped like
pyramids also.

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And I went there kind of
thinking, I would maybe buy a

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new one to bring one to the
Sharia.

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Because one I have at home is,
you know, actively keeping

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ghosts demons first.
Feds away as Oregon blasters.

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Do.
Absolutely.

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And he had one that was Is
either shaped you.

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And I argued about this, it was
either shaped like the

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Millennium Falcon or the Nation
of Islam Mothership.

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Well I don’t know what that
looks like.

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I’ve never seen a picture of the
Nation of Islam.

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Mothership you ever seen
Independence Day?

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Yeah that ship is purple.
It is a ship is just the big

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ship is just a circle.
You mean like the little guys?

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Yeah, I don’t know.
I do.

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Okay.
But what was left running

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Millennium Falcon.
Want something.

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What’s important?
Orton is I picked it up and was

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like, oh that’s cool.
That does kind of look like the

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Millennium Falcon.
Maybe I’ll buy it for Jeff as a

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gag gift or something.
I was like, how much?

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And they said $77 here and I
said, that’s a little more than

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I want to spend.
And that man, fresh off of

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complimenting, my Mariah Carey
sweatshirt.

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Went, it’s not just a cute thing
to look at like, yeah, I know,

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he goodbye.
He’s very touchy.

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I got the feeling that maybe it
wasn’t the first time that

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someone had questioned.
Whether it was worse and you

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know what?
I didn’t send you any judgment

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coming off of you when you said
that and like these are

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handcrafted items.
Like you can charge 70, that’s

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fine.
It was funny to get very touchy

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about it, I guess.
But yeah, it was the Millennium

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Falcon though.
It had the little cockpit off

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the side around cockpit.
I don’t want to get the guy in

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copyright trouble.
I don’t want well George Lewis,

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we’re not saying his name.
And I’m sure I’m almost

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positive, he wasn’t the only
person selling Oregon blasters

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there.
Oh, no, absolutely not.

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Because there were multiple
shops centered around, just

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around ancient golden Starships.
Yes.

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Or ancient golden Jets.
Think it’s called the jakara

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bird.
Sure.

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I think is one of the things
they call that.

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Yeah.
And I didn’t stop at any of

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those places because I don’t
really care about any of that

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stuff.
The people that I was the most

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excited to talk to The people
like the CBD guy, the people who

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just had obviously just bought a
booth in this convention to be,

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like, I’ve got this stuff.
Yeah.

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Yeah.
And it wasn’t even all like UFO

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types, like there was an artist
there.

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I hate that.
I can’t remember his name, but

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he’s at conventions all the time
and like I have these Star Wars

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candle.
So, the pop art guy.

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Yeah, like he had that really
cool painting.

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That looked like a Tootsie Pop
wrapper.

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Hmm.
That stuff is fine.

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It had very much the vibe of
like a farmers market version of

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Spencer’s Gifts.
A little bit.

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Like there was just kind of a
little bit of everything all

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over the place.
Yeah.

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Oh, the weirdest thing speaking
of copyright infringement.

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So we’re walking around and all
of a sudden the giant robot

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version of Wally comes rolling
by and I was very surprised to

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see that.
Yeah I have video of some of

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that.
Whirs, R2-D2 all in, in there

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was also R2D2 and there’s like
the 50 First, which is a very

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famous Star Wars cosplaying
group a bunch of nerds.

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They were there and I’m like, I
feel like the theming is totally

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lost here.
I was not expecting to see like

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Disney like branded shit.
It was very jarring to have,

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like these very specific
characters.

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Yeah.
Yeah, they did seem out of

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place.
Yeah.

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Because like almost everybody
else is there because they

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honestly believe in some sort of
alien or a cult or alternate

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medicine type thing, right?
So it’s weird to have like

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cosplayers and like robot
Builders playing around with

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R2D2 and shit.
Yeah, I’m normally a sucker.

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For those kind of situations
those like Marketplace things at

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a con in that I’m always going
to buy something.

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Yeah and this time around I
didn’t there were a couple

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T-shirts.
It was really funny t-shirt that

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A picture of a UFO on it and it
said weather balloon.

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Yeah, Neath.
It was a good one but I also I

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can probably get that at $6
shirts or something.

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Yeah.
I mean why support small

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businesses but also I don’t know
how those motherfuckers voted

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you know.
Yeah this is the thing I’m and

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there was that one booth for the
Skinwalker Ranch where they had

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children working it.
And that’s another thing.

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I almost bought that Walker
Ranch hoodie, was that really

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bummed me out like Like really,
but I kind of disagree.

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I mean, if you mean from a child
labor standpoint?

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No, I just mean lately where I
do disagree because that

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happens.
I don’t know if that’s the

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environment for that part.
Yes, child.

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I’m not talking about teenagers
or whatever, like I’m talking

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about, little kids.
Yeah, it’s more.

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The thing where those kids are
convinced that there’s a ranch

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in Utah that has like wormholes
to other dimension.

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Yeah, that’s tough.
Bums me out, it bums me out, but

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Man, you know, and like I was
kind of in a very

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go-with-the-flow kind of
attitude at it.

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Just trying to asking questions
being open like we’re laughing

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now but we weren’t there making
fun of anybody or like laughing

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at anything.
Like we were taking everybody

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very seriously if we talk to
them.

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Yeah.
I mean my beef with alien Khan

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is ancient alien Theory?
Exactly like, that’s that’s what

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I well take issue with Not so
much.

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Like these are just people
trying to make a fucking living,

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right?
Like that.

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I’m not there to make foot and
this is what we were saying

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about.
Like, you know, we’re walking

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through this and we go to a
bunch of booze.

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We talked to a bunch of people,
we eat some lunch, and we’re

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like, is there an episode here,
right?

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Because neither of us, you know,
it’s fun to have a little bit of

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laugh about the goofballs but
like, is that an episode?

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Yeah, and I think I even said
that those aren’t the people.

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I want to like, Make fun of,
right?

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Exactly comedy conspiracy
podcast.

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Yeah, yeah, that’s just that’s
tight regular-ass people, man.

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Like I said, I had legitimately
good interactions with basically

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everybody that I talked to,
yeah, there they were all very

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genuine and forth.
Right?

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Before we move on to the other
part of our convention

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experience, I would just like to
shout out.

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Anyone who’s planning to go to a
leak on next year.

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If you’re attending at the
Pasadena Convention Center,

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Order.
The chef’s special.

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Yeah, there’s only one place to
eat.

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Yeah, it’s got like six things.
Yeah, the chef’s special is a

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bottle of water and tater tots
with cheese and sour cream and

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jalapenos on them.
Yeah.

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And it is a delight.
Yeah.

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It was the highlight of a lien
on for me.

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Yeah, I would say, don’t order
the chicken fingers, that was a

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bad move, they didn’t even have
barbecue sauce, they didn’t even

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have the fucking aliens.
Take it.

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What do you mean?
Yeah, partner.

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It got abducted by aliens, how
are you selling?

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Yeah.
Chicken tenders without one of

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the, most important components
they didn’t even have Ranch?

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No, and I don’t even like Ranch.
Yeah, so that wouldn’t have

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helped but like they were gross
and tough also so does tater

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tots.
Let me tell ya, the tater tots

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are good.
They were good time, they look

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good.
So yeah, we had kind of a crisis

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on our hands back to the
convention.

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Yeah.
That’s actually a sponsored ad

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for the The Pasadena Convention
Center, concession stand.

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We get 14 50 per 1000 listens.
Hey, there you go.

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So, we did have a little crisis
on our hands, right?

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Because we were like shit, this
isn’t, yeah, really an episode.

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Because the other thing I was
hoping they would have one of my

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favorite things, like at l.a.
Comic Con which used to be

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called Kamikaze.
I don’t know why they changed

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that name or I went to when the
Super Bowl was here last year.

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Yeah, NFL always sets up like a
NFL convention kind of thing,

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interests, think of.
And I went to that last year and

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What I like as much as the
marketplace thing is, there’s

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always like exhibits.
Hmm.

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At Comic-Con they’ll have, you
know, comic book shit like her

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Iron Man suits and things and
like shit.

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You can like, look at and take
pictures with really.

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There wasn’t really any of that.
Know it alien con not really, it

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was basically just a giant
Square Marketplace, and we have

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fucking Moon Rock already, come
on.

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And so, we’re desperately
scrambling at the schedule being

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like, we gotta find something.
To go to other than this

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Marketplace.
Like we don’t want to leave

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feeling like we’ve left some
experience on the table.

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Yeah.
And if we had left at that

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point, I don’t think we would
have necessarily done an

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episode.
Probably not.

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This would have been it.
Yeah, that position would be

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over, right?
Because that’s all I have to

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really say about the marketplace
because I don’t want to be

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overly mean some people, right?
And that would have sucked

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because the tickets weren’t
expensive but they weren’t

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cheap, right?
Guy, we didn’t plan it that

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well, but that’s because they
didn’t promote it that.

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Well, sure.
I mean, I didn’t know this was

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happening and I am such a
conspiracy theory influencer, so

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I don’t know why.
I wouldn’t know, but I didn’t

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hear about this until I was
watching the local news, like a

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fucking Grandpa one morning and
they said it was going to be in

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Pasadena, I think the following
week.

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Okay.
That’s when I like started

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reaching out.
Yeah, I texted me.

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Yeah, we ended up buying the
tickets.

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I Think the day before.
Yeah.

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So we didn’t plan it out that
well you know it was a

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spur-of-the-moment thing, right?
And so we get through the whole

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Marketplace.
Yeah.

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And we start looking at the
schedule, trying to figure out

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like because there’s
presentations, right?

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That’s it.
That’s all you got for variety.

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All you have is the marketplace
and then you can wait in line

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and go sit in a room and listen
to some people talk to you.

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And that’s it.
So first, we headed to Jupiter

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and Venus I don’t think either
of us at this point, have any

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idea what that meant?
Yeah, it was really, I mean, you

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know, it’s their cute names for
their exhibition Halls.

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Right?
Basically, and like and the

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lines were really long.
The lines were really long, I

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wasn’t sure what we were even
going to see in there.

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Yeah.
Like one of them was for

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something about very up our
alley.

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Like what does the government
know about he’ll either?

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I mean, it sounds like a parody
of a bookie alien.

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You know, it’s some panel about
what the government knows about

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aliens or something.
And the other one was about

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crypto zoology, right?
And we’re like, one of these

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will be fine.
Or, I guess, we could go to the

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other building because we hadn’t
been to the other building.

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We didn’t really know what the
map was awful.

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It just showed what the names of
the buildings were.

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Even the signs.
Like it would be like, Omni

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Hall, and it’s just pointing at
the ground.

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No, it’s not right there.
What are you talking about?

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So yeah, we kind of gotten both
long.

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We stood in all the lines, we
could stand in like we wanted.

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I wasn’t going to be robbed of
that rich experience, of course,

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of standing in various lines.
And you know, what?

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The line that we settled on for
as long as it was and it was

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very long, it was the longest
one, right?

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It also went fastest, that’s the
thing.

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We kept deciding that the line
we were in was too long and

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unknowingly jumping into longer
lines.

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Just continually escalating
until we’re just like, yeah.

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Well I guess we’re just here.
Yeah, and now we’re here and

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we’re outside in this.
Yeah.

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And none of us knew what panel
we were even in line for at this

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point because we left the
building that had the government

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one in the cryptozoology one.
And we’re like, fuck it.

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Let’s go see what’s in the other
building, at least before you

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leave.
And so, we get there and there’s

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a big line.
And so we’re like, I guess we’ll

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stand in this line.
The line was huge but it was a

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also, a huge Auditorium.
So that was promised and it

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seems like we’re really
hammering home how random it was

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that we ended up in this
specific line.

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If not, I’d like to drive home,
I really would because we

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there’s a Twist.
Come yeah, we had no idea what

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the panel was for who was going
to be on it.

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You know, it was going to be
about and we’re not going to ask

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anyone around us because I don’t
think any of us wanted to talk

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to anyone.
Who was I out?

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Also didn’t want to get called a
poser know.

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Of course, some guy that owns
property in Roswell, or I mean,

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I wouldn’t talk to anyone who is
around us, but I will say in

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this is, this is so
embarrassing, there were so many

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women who were my type there, as
I’m walking through, I’m like,

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oh, there’s a huge weirdo.
Oh yeah, there’s a really

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depressed weirdo.
Cool!

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Hey.
How’s it going?

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And like it would have been a
disaster.

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So we’re standing in this line.
Yes, we’re outside yet.

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It’s a huge Auditorium.
Horry and people are pouring in

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the line.
Okay?

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So when you’re standing facing
the building, the line starts

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going around the corner of the
building and disappears and then

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reappears coming back around
right the corner of the building

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to the doors.
So it was long.

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You don’t really I mean I guess
we could have locked up and

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checked yet.
You don’t really know what’s

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around that corner.
Yeah.

436
00:23:36,800 –> 00:23:40,000
You know you just know that it’s
really long.

437
00:23:40,000 –> 00:23:44,600
You don’t know exactly how log
because As part of its a

438
00:23:44,608 –> 00:23:48,200
mystery.
And speaking of mystery, I know,

439
00:23:48,200 –> 00:23:51,400
we could have just walked up and
seen how long it was.

440
00:23:51,600 –> 00:23:54,800
But I think the thing that kept
us from doing that was probably

441
00:23:54,800 –> 00:23:57,800
the alien line corralling
technology.

442
00:23:57,800 –> 00:24:02,200
They had in place.
Okay, so so as the line moves

443
00:24:02,200 –> 00:24:06,400
its you know because this one of
those theme park ride lines that

444
00:24:06,400 –> 00:24:10,300
like snakes around.
Yeah it starts to move in and it

445
00:24:10,300 –> 00:24:13,800
takes several minutes before
anyone that we can see.

446
00:24:14,000 –> 00:24:16,200
On our side, start moving,
right?

447
00:24:16,200 –> 00:24:21,200
And we get down there and it
goes down, a stairwell with a

448
00:24:21,200 –> 00:24:25,300
handrail, there’s a railing
between and people are going up

449
00:24:25,300 –> 00:24:28,900
one and down the other.
You go down and then around

450
00:24:28,900 –> 00:24:31,300
around and then back up this
ramp.

451
00:24:31,300 –> 00:24:37,400
But in because of how the shape
of the line had formed

452
00:24:37,800 –> 00:24:42,800
apparently during the waiting
period, people were for no

453
00:24:42,800 –> 00:24:44,800
reason whatsoever.
Whatsoever.

454
00:24:44,800 –> 00:24:50,800
Still maintaining the elongated
walking line 15 to 20 feet out

455
00:24:50,800 –> 00:24:54,700
of the way with no barrier,
because the railing ends.

456
00:24:54,700 –> 00:24:57,700
And as I’m going down, I was
like, oh, we should just turn

457
00:24:57,700 –> 00:25:00,300
right now.
It’s just very funny for a group

458
00:25:00,300 –> 00:25:03,700
of people who probably,
including myself all considering

459
00:25:03,700 –> 00:25:08,600
it themselves freethinkers.
And like, it will never be as

460
00:25:08,600 –> 00:25:11,100
funny to the people listening as
it was.

461
00:25:11,100 –> 00:25:13,800
It’s Russ and that men and black
look.

462
00:25:14,000 –> 00:25:17,200
Gentlemen, who only one other
guy kind of notice?

463
00:25:17,400 –> 00:25:21,400
Let me bust the alien technology
joke because it was like we were

464
00:25:21,400 –> 00:25:24,700
all just walking around this
invisible barrier, for no

465
00:25:24,700 –> 00:25:27,400
reason.
It was such a funny.

466
00:25:27,400 –> 00:25:31,500
Human psychology moment, be
funny if I tried to turn, right?

467
00:25:31,500 –> 00:25:34,700
And it just did that thing where
it’s like, says brought to you

468
00:25:34,708 –> 00:25:39,100
by Skinwalker Ranch.
When it buzzes, you said someone

469
00:25:39,100 –> 00:25:42,200
look like in my beat?
Like, literally there were like,

470
00:25:42,200 –> 00:25:45,600
four or five, guys.
Cosplaying as men and black

471
00:25:45,600 –> 00:25:49,400
cosplaying is federal agent.
I don’t cosplay or whatever

472
00:25:49,400 –> 00:25:54,700
fucking feds so weird.
What a confused mythology.

473
00:25:54,900 –> 00:25:58,300
So we make our way into this
Auditorium still.

474
00:25:58,300 –> 00:26:01,700
Not really sure what we’re going
to see but we noticed it’s a big

475
00:26:01,700 –> 00:26:03,900
hall, right?
It’s way bigger than either of

476
00:26:03,900 –> 00:26:07,300
the rooms that we were waiting
for and we set kind of in the

477
00:26:07,300 –> 00:26:09,200
back.
For obvious reasons.

478
00:26:09,200 –> 00:26:11,800
Of course we sit as close to the
exit as we Wrangle.

479
00:26:11,800 –> 00:26:13,800
Basically, this is an alien
contact.

480
00:26:15,400 –> 00:26:17,500
And I’m like, I’m sitting on the
aisle, please.

481
00:26:17,500 –> 00:26:20,400
Yeah, I wasn’t gonna be a super
liberal crash.

482
00:26:20,400 –> 00:26:23,900
I would you jump off in there?
Yeah, want to be able to get out

483
00:26:23,900 –> 00:26:26,900
as fast as I possibly can.
And so we’re sitting there

484
00:26:26,900 –> 00:26:30,200
waiting for this presentation to
start and there’s a video screen

485
00:26:30,200 –> 00:26:34,300
in.
All it says is alien con 2023,

486
00:26:34,500 –> 00:26:35,700
we didn’t really know what we
were.

487
00:26:35,700 –> 00:26:40,300
No see again, still?
No preface of get ready, I mean

488
00:26:40,300 –> 00:26:42,300
until you know, the show starts
or whatever.

489
00:26:42,400 –> 00:26:46,900
And so they finally come Come
out and this panel that we

490
00:26:46,900 –> 00:26:52,000
randomly stumbled into you as a
last-ditch measure, to find

491
00:26:52,000 –> 00:26:55,500
something to talk about on the
show, 1000% an accident to the

492
00:26:55,508 –> 00:27:00,300
point that I said, I honestly
would rather not see blank.

493
00:27:00,300 –> 00:27:06,200
So the first person who comes
out is the moderator, and he’s

494
00:27:06,200 –> 00:27:08,900
an executive producer on Ancient
Aliens.

495
00:27:08,900 –> 00:27:11,600
And I’m like, fuck off on up
here, something that’s nothing.

496
00:27:11,600 –> 00:27:13,700
Then this whole thing is like,
brought to you.

497
00:27:14,000 –> 00:27:17,500
Ancient Aliens.
And then I also didn’t get my

498
00:27:17,500 –> 00:27:20,200
hopes up when the next guy came
out.

499
00:27:20,200 –> 00:27:21,800
I didn’t even write his fucking
name down.

500
00:27:22,000 –> 00:27:24,400
He was described as Robert
Downey, jr.

501
00:27:24,400 –> 00:27:27,700
Spiritual Guru and it’s like, I
don’t think you’re doing that

502
00:27:27,700 –> 00:27:30,100
good.
Yeah, like, Robert Downey jr.

503
00:27:30,100 –> 00:27:31,800
Seems like a little bit of a
mess.

504
00:27:32,000 –> 00:27:33,800
Yeah, maybe he’s Robert Downey
jr.

505
00:27:33,800 –> 00:27:37,900
His career advisor and so I
didn’t give a shit about that.

506
00:27:38,000 –> 00:27:40,700
No.
But then, but then David

507
00:27:40,700 –> 00:27:43,800
Childress who’s people at home,
who are familiar with ancient

508
00:27:43,900 –> 00:27:46,800
And Aliens know he is a Mainstay
on that show.

509
00:27:46,800 –> 00:27:50,100
Yeah he’s written a whole bunch
of books so I was like oh shit,

510
00:27:50,100 –> 00:27:53,800
that’s cool.
And then yeah the aliens meme

511
00:27:53,800 –> 00:27:57,600
guy himself Giorgio fucking
sucralose.

512
00:27:57,600 –> 00:28:02,500
Yes comes out and I’m like oh
man we are at the panel.

513
00:28:02,600 –> 00:28:06,900
Yeah and then God damn it.
This way, there’s one more

514
00:28:06,900 –> 00:28:09,600
person coming out, not for a
brief second.

515
00:28:09,600 –> 00:28:11,400
I was like, please bring out an
alien.

516
00:28:11,400 –> 00:28:13,800
Please without an alien but even
better.

517
00:28:14,800 –> 00:28:18,300
They bring out Erich, von
daniken’s Nazi ass.

518
00:28:18,300 –> 00:28:22,700
My God.
I still can’t really believe it.

519
00:28:22,800 –> 00:28:25,200
It’s like, when I saw
Springsteen and he brought Neil

520
00:28:25,200 –> 00:28:27,300
Young out to play Rocking In The
Free World.

521
00:28:27,300 –> 00:28:29,100
And I was like, what was
happening.

522
00:28:29,100 –> 00:28:34,200
But like the inverse of that
kind of, the total opposite

523
00:28:34,200 –> 00:28:37,900
feeling because, I mean,
obviously, I was like, well, we

524
00:28:37,900 –> 00:28:42,300
obviously have an episode now,
but I was like, we are for sure

525
00:28:42,300 –> 00:28:43,700
going to have some stuff to talk
about.

526
00:28:44,000 –> 00:28:48,500
But I also I’m like, oh no.
I’m in the same room as Erich

527
00:28:48,500 –> 00:28:51,100
von daniken.
Yeah.

528
00:28:51,400 –> 00:28:53,100
Yeah.
And they were like selling

529
00:28:53,100 –> 00:28:54,700
pictures.
Like you could take pictures.

530
00:28:54,700 –> 00:28:57,400
Yeah, sucralose.
It’s like yeah, I’m not having

531
00:28:57,400 –> 00:29:00,700
that pop up on my social media
15 years from now when people

532
00:29:00,700 –> 00:29:04,500
finally figure out what ancient
aliens really is so fucked up.

533
00:29:04,700 –> 00:29:08,400
Oh man, I kind of freaked out a
little bit, not in a good way

534
00:29:08,600 –> 00:29:11,100
when Erich von daniken came out.
Yes.

535
00:29:11,100 –> 00:29:13,600
Like is this a trap?
I’m like, oh no.

536
00:29:13,900 –> 00:29:17,500
Also, this is the panel.
These are all of the Heavy

537
00:29:17,500 –> 00:29:21,800
Hitters that they advertised
from the Ancient Aliens World on

538
00:29:21,800 –> 00:29:25,500
one panel.
So, you know, that it’s going to

539
00:29:25,500 –> 00:29:30,600
be interesting and it was right
off the bat, the first thing

540
00:29:30,600 –> 00:29:33,000
that happened?
I don’t know if you recall, but

541
00:29:33,000 –> 00:29:35,500
I took detailed notes because
you weren’t allowed to film,

542
00:29:35,500 –> 00:29:37,100
right?
You weren’t allowed to record

543
00:29:37,100 –> 00:29:40,000
and I bless you for your
detailed notes because I can

544
00:29:40,000 –> 00:29:43,000
remember the event.
But like to say, what happened

545
00:29:43,000 –> 00:29:45,300
in, what order Sir, I don’t
think I possibly could.

546
00:29:45,300 –> 00:29:51,100
It’s a blur of just a bunch of
overlapping mildly whirring

547
00:29:51,100 –> 00:29:56,300
voices and the first of those
whirring voices was Giorgio

548
00:29:56,300 –> 00:29:58,800
Tsoukalos.
Who, as it turns out has

549
00:29:58,800 –> 00:30:03,000
definitely heard your concerns
America about Ancient Aliens

550
00:30:03,000 –> 00:30:07,600
being racist because at various
points, he’d be like, is that

551
00:30:07,600 –> 00:30:10,500
racist?
And it’s like, yes, two

552
00:30:10,500 –> 00:30:13,700
separate, people, two separate
people.

553
00:30:13,900 –> 00:30:16,100
A four-person panel.
Let’s wait.

554
00:30:16,100 –> 00:30:18,600
Before we get into the full
details of the other one.

555
00:30:18,600 –> 00:30:22,300
I’m not gonna say anything else.
I’m just saying to people made

556
00:30:22,500 –> 00:30:25,500
those kinds of jokes to the same
response.

557
00:30:25,500 –> 00:30:31,400
Yes, Applause fucking seals.
So the first person to speak is

558
00:30:31,400 –> 00:30:32,900
Giorgio Tsoukalos.
Yes.

559
00:30:33,000 –> 00:30:36,100
And yeah I took notes I wasn’t
even sure if I was supposed to

560
00:30:36,100 –> 00:30:37,000
do that.
Whatever.

561
00:30:37,000 –> 00:30:40,600
But I had my phone down and they
were just looking for people who

562
00:30:40,600 –> 00:30:43,400
have their phone out.
Exactly Giorgio Tsoukalos.

563
00:30:43,400 –> 00:30:46,600
He Talked about panspermia.
Yes, right away.

564
00:30:46,600 –> 00:30:52,400
I was like, sperm, that’s funny.
Yeah, I mean like they say that

565
00:30:52,400 –> 00:30:55,700
word a lot.
They said a whole lot that seems

566
00:30:55,700 –> 00:30:59,800
to be the new hotness as far as
like, the scientific sounding

567
00:30:59,800 –> 00:31:02,300
word for this absolute bullshit.
Yeah.

568
00:31:02,300 –> 00:31:06,200
Because if I grasped correctly
and I’m, you know, just

569
00:31:06,200 –> 00:31:08,200
spitballin here going off the
top of my head.

570
00:31:08,200 –> 00:31:11,400
So if there’s any panspermia
experts, listening fuck off.

571
00:31:12,200 –> 00:31:16,300
It seems like the general.
Idea of panspermia is like

572
00:31:16,300 –> 00:31:18,700
something just floats down from
the heavens.

573
00:31:18,700 –> 00:31:22,300
Sure, and lands on Earth and
that Clash.

574
00:31:22,300 –> 00:31:25,800
Yeah, leads to life.
It’s like, have you seen Ridley

575
00:31:25,800 –> 00:31:30,400
Scott’s Prometheus?
Yes, which is a great movie, and

576
00:31:30,400 –> 00:31:35,500
it begins with panspermia.
It begins with an alien coming

577
00:31:35,500 –> 00:31:39,000
down to earth, and drinking a
thing, and then dying and then

578
00:31:39,000 –> 00:31:42,900
becoming life.
Basically, now that would be

579
00:31:42,900 –> 00:31:45,500
direct Panspermia.
Yes, which is.

580
00:31:45,500 –> 00:31:48,800
They make very clear.
It’s a different thing than it

581
00:31:48,800 –> 00:31:52,300
just being random I guess.
And that’s what Giorgio

582
00:31:52,300 –> 00:31:54,400
sucralose wanted to talk about,
right?

583
00:31:54,400 –> 00:31:58,000
That’s what he believes in
direct panspermia.

584
00:31:58,300 –> 00:32:01,200
Yeah, look.
It’s a scientific.

585
00:32:01,400 –> 00:32:04,000
I’m not good.
I mean, it’s a fake scientific

586
00:32:04,000 –> 00:32:05,200
term.
It’s not like it describes a

587
00:32:05,208 –> 00:32:08,600
real event.
But yeah, man.

588
00:32:08,600 –> 00:32:13,600
We’re like pans is here my right
because that’s like a slang for

589
00:32:14,100 –> 00:32:16,200
Right?
So yeah, he talked about that

590
00:32:16,200 –> 00:32:20,400
for a bit and then Erich von
daniken basically did 15 minutes

591
00:32:20,400 –> 00:32:23,000
of stand-up comedy.
Erich von daniken.

592
00:32:23,100 –> 00:32:27,100
I’m not gonna say the Erich.
Von daniken had just taken

593
00:32:27,100 –> 00:32:30,800
cocaine before coming on stage
end of sentence.

594
00:32:30,800 –> 00:32:36,100
Yeah, I would never say Erich
von daniken was under the

595
00:32:36,100 –> 00:32:40,000
influence of any stimulants.
No, not at all, but he liked to

596
00:32:40,000 –> 00:32:42,300
talk.
You sure did and he liked to

597
00:32:42,300 –> 00:32:46,700
talk a lot and he like to talk
when at least once might have

598
00:32:46,700 –> 00:32:50,100
happened more than once.
A question is directly addressed

599
00:32:50,100 –> 00:32:53,600
to one of the other panelists
and Erich von daniken.

600
00:32:53,600 –> 00:32:56,100
Just answered it.
It was great.

601
00:32:56,700 –> 00:33:00,400
I did happen twice because the
first time it happened, the

602
00:33:00,400 –> 00:33:03,600
audience was just like, oh, just
let that old coot, right?

603
00:33:03,600 –> 00:33:05,600
Yeah.
And then because it happened to

604
00:33:05,608 –> 00:33:08,500
the same person, right?
Like Erich von daniken for a

605
00:33:08,500 –> 00:33:09,900
minute.
Just thought his name was

606
00:33:09,900 –> 00:33:13,700
William because fucking
Ironmans.

607
00:33:13,900 –> 00:33:17,100
And then of the line was named
William.

608
00:33:17,200 –> 00:33:20,200
And the moderator asked William.
A question Erich.

609
00:33:20,200 –> 00:33:21,800
Von daniken, took it?
Yeah.

610
00:33:22,000 –> 00:33:25,200
And then, when Erich von
daniken, got done talking 45

611
00:33:25,200 –> 00:33:29,800
minutes.
Later, you’ve got tried to ask

612
00:33:29,800 –> 00:33:32,000
William another question.
Uh-huh.

613
00:33:32,100 –> 00:33:34,400
And Erich, von daniken was like,
William.

614
00:33:34,400 –> 00:33:36,500
Yeah, it’s me Eric.
Then everyone laughs.

615
00:33:36,500 –> 00:33:39,300
Yeah.
Now Erich, von daniken’s answers

616
00:33:39,300 –> 00:33:41,300
to these questions.
They make sense.

617
00:33:41,600 –> 00:33:43,700
No, no, no, they don’t make any
sense.

618
00:33:43,800 –> 00:33:49,200
Since they were wild, he really
did just kind of seemed like he

619
00:33:49,200 –> 00:33:51,100
was rambling.
Yeah, it’ll bit.

620
00:33:51,200 –> 00:33:54,600
He domineer the panel basically.
He sure did.

621
00:33:54,600 –> 00:33:57,000
He talk about religious texts a
lot?

622
00:33:57,000 –> 00:34:02,400
Yeah, he is insistent that
because the Bible says God

623
00:34:02,400 –> 00:34:05,500
needed a vehicle.
Mmm, he’s like, well, my God

624
00:34:05,500 –> 00:34:07,500
doesn’t need a vehicle.
Yeah, talking about something

625
00:34:07,500 –> 00:34:09,699
else.
It’s like, damn, that’s you

626
00:34:09,699 –> 00:34:12,300
built an entire industry on
that.

627
00:34:12,300 –> 00:34:15,800
Leap will end that story.
That you’re talking about.

628
00:34:15,900 –> 00:34:19,000
That’s a story that took place
when he was in Catholic School.

629
00:34:19,000 –> 00:34:22,699
Oh yeah, yeah.
So like when he was young and

630
00:34:22,699 –> 00:34:27,900
he’s just that’s what his whole
life has been based on that and

631
00:34:27,900 –> 00:34:29,800
lies.
He was never young.

632
00:34:30,500 –> 00:34:35,100
It’s hard to believe.
I bet he was probably pretty old

633
00:34:35,199 –> 00:34:37,400
when Chariots of the Gods came
out.

634
00:34:37,400 –> 00:34:42,900
It’s very funny that Chariots of
the Gods exists and has been

635
00:34:42,900 –> 00:34:46,500
thoroughly debunked.
I bunked in every possible way

636
00:34:46,699 –> 00:34:52,300
that it could possibly be debug.
And yet A&E entertainment, hires

637
00:34:52,300 –> 00:34:56,600
this man with no Nazi ties to
come.

638
00:34:56,600 –> 00:35:00,700
Be just a casual panel at their
fun.

639
00:35:00,700 –> 00:35:04,800
Goofy alien convention Erich.
Von daniken was a question on

640
00:35:04,800 –> 00:35:07,600
Jeopardy, not too long ago.
Was he really I texted you when

641
00:35:07,600 –> 00:35:08,300
it happened?
Yeah.

642
00:35:08,300 –> 00:35:11,000
Oh yeah.
The answer was Chariots of the

643
00:35:11,000 –> 00:35:13,500
Gods, right?
Erich von daniken’s name was in

644
00:35:13,500 –> 00:35:16,900
the Kitchen that documentary got
nominated for an Oscar did.

645
00:35:17,200 –> 00:35:20,500
It’s Gary’s, it was huge.
We talked about in the episode

646
00:35:20,600 –> 00:35:25,100
and it was all bullshit.
Yeah, we did a whole episode on

647
00:35:25,100 –> 00:35:28,400
Chariots of the gas is theories
of evolved though.

648
00:35:28,700 –> 00:35:30,300
Listen.
Oh yes.

649
00:35:30,400 –> 00:35:33,100
But we can’t talk about Erich.
Von daniken the whole time.

650
00:35:33,100 –> 00:35:36,600
As much as he would.
Like, if we did, because we also

651
00:35:36,600 –> 00:35:40,600
have to talk about David
Childress has bit about Bigfoot.

652
00:35:40,700 –> 00:35:44,300
Oh, that was so weird.
He said some of the Best things

653
00:35:44,300 –> 00:35:48,100
I’ve ever heard about Bigfoot in
my life.

654
00:35:48,700 –> 00:35:52,200
At one point, he says Bigfoot is
like us, but doesn’t have speech

655
00:35:52,200 –> 00:35:54,500
ability.
It’s like man, you’re describing

656
00:35:54,500 –> 00:36:00,000
every animal.
Oh my God, the Bigfoot thing?

657
00:36:00,100 –> 00:36:03,300
I didn’t understand why we were
all of a sudden, talking about

658
00:36:03,300 –> 00:36:04,600
Bigfoot.
No clue.

659
00:36:04,600 –> 00:36:09,200
What it had to do with anything.
He also said Bigfoot, doesn’t

660
00:36:09,300 –> 00:36:11,700
eat cooked food.
Oh yeah, that was.

661
00:36:12,200 –> 00:36:15,400
Who does besides our yeah like
that’s a big part of our whole

662
00:36:15,400 –> 00:36:19,300
thing like this dogs out there
fucking pan fry in the scrap

663
00:36:19,300 –> 00:36:21,200
yet.
Find on the street he’s thinking

664
00:36:21,200 –> 00:36:24,300
about like the dragons on Game
of Thrones, that’s why they

665
00:36:24,300 –> 00:36:26,400
breathe fire because they need
to cook their food.

666
00:36:27,700 –> 00:36:33,400
They like a seared steak and I
honestly listeners.

667
00:36:33,500 –> 00:36:37,300
If anyone has an example of an
animal that needs to cook their

668
00:36:37,300 –> 00:36:41,200
meat, please let me know.
In some nerd Langer is going to

669
00:36:41,200 –> 00:36:45,100
reply and be like actually
there’s a with what I would like

670
00:36:45,100 –> 00:36:50,100
to know, I really don’t think
there is one I mean needs to

671
00:36:50,100 –> 00:36:53,200
cook like we need to cook.
I mean it would be weirder if it

672
00:36:53,200 –> 00:36:59,800
was an animal just like that.
Science has no idea.

673
00:37:01,600 –> 00:37:06,000
Yeah, it’s like when like
dolphins kind of seemed to Salt

674
00:37:06,000 –> 00:37:08,800
women for fun.
Yeah, you know, it’s like we

675
00:37:08,800 –> 00:37:11,700
have no idea why it’s some weird
thing.

676
00:37:11,900 –> 00:37:14,000
This is just their thing.
This is there.

677
00:37:14,000 –> 00:37:16,600
That’s just what they’re into.
Its name, a football team.

678
00:37:16,600 –> 00:37:18,800
After him.
Look dolphins are great, I got

679
00:37:18,800 –> 00:37:24,400
nothing to Can’t Stop.
Did you catch any of Iron Man’s

680
00:37:24,500 –> 00:37:29,800
neocortex activated stuff.
That seems to be a big deal.

681
00:37:30,000 –> 00:37:35,700
Just the idea that the neocortex
represents like Consciousness I

682
00:37:35,707 –> 00:37:38,800
guess in this Theory, like no,
this is rooted in real science.

683
00:37:39,200 –> 00:37:43,200
But like, you know, the idea is
that when our neocortex is

684
00:37:43,200 –> 00:37:47,600
activated, which I guess means
we evolved it or what, I don’t

685
00:37:47,600 –> 00:37:52,800
know what that means.
But like, Jesting that no aliens

686
00:37:52,800 –> 00:37:53,700
came down.
And did that.

687
00:37:53,700 –> 00:37:56,400
Sure fucking day like flip the
switch?

688
00:37:56,400 –> 00:38:00,800
Yeah, and gave us a neocortex
but like, I don’t know that

689
00:38:00,800 –> 00:38:05,300
that’s true.
I’m gonna say, I doubt.

690
00:38:05,300 –> 00:38:07,900
You know, press X to doubt the
video game.

691
00:38:08,900 –> 00:38:13,000
So, Erich, von daniken was just
he was throwing spaghetti at the

692
00:38:13,000 –> 00:38:15,500
wall to see if it sticks.
Maybe he went to go see his

693
00:38:15,500 –> 00:38:17,400
doctor earlier.
I don’t know.

694
00:38:17,400 –> 00:38:19,600
Dr. Feelgood, he still goes to
see, dr.

695
00:38:19,600 –> 00:38:21,300
Feelgood.
He’s still in business.

696
00:38:21,400 –> 00:38:24,700
But just for Erich, von daniken.
He said, there are two kinds of

697
00:38:24,700 –> 00:38:28,200
people religious in science and
it’s like, yeah, listen to our

698
00:38:28,200 –> 00:38:31,200
lost podcaster of course man of
science man Faith.

699
00:38:31,300 –> 00:38:33,700
He said neanderthals and humans
were not the same.

700
00:38:33,800 –> 00:38:35,500
That’s true.
Sure.

701
00:38:35,500 –> 00:38:38,200
He also brought up The Hobbit
people of Indonesia and I’m sure

702
00:38:38,200 –> 00:38:41,300
that’s not an offensive way to
put that at all.

703
00:38:41,500 –> 00:38:46,000
Yeah, I couldn’t tell if he was
referring to, like people who we

704
00:38:46,000 –> 00:38:49,000
would call pygmies, but I don’t
know.

705
00:38:49,000 –> 00:38:53,000
It was very unclear, obviously.
Anything having to do with race

706
00:38:53,000 –> 00:38:56,800
was extremely loaded.
Yeah.

707
00:38:56,800 –> 00:39:01,600
Because this is the point where
after Giorgio Tsoukalos gives

708
00:39:01,600 –> 00:39:07,700
this impassioned plea for God.
Believers of the Bible in

709
00:39:07,700 –> 00:39:10,900
evolution and Believers of
ancient alien Theory.

710
00:39:10,900 –> 00:39:13,900
His thing is well it’s all
correct and we just need to meet

711
00:39:13,900 –> 00:39:16,000
in the middle.
It’s like I don’t think that’s

712
00:39:16,000 –> 00:39:17,200
actually where you’re going,
actually.

713
00:39:17,200 –> 00:39:19,300
Can’t be all correct.
Yeah that’s unfortunately

714
00:39:19,300 –> 00:39:24,100
they’re very incompatible and
And after that Erich von daniken

715
00:39:24,100 –> 00:39:28,800
goes off on this Spiel and he
says, and I know we’re not

716
00:39:28,800 –> 00:39:31,600
supposed to say this word.
Yeah.

717
00:39:31,600 –> 00:39:37,200
But race and man did a palpable
tension fall over the room when

718
00:39:37,200 –> 00:39:40,400
Erich von daniken really, does
the word race or at least our

719
00:39:40,400 –> 00:39:44,400
row?
Yeah, I know, I can stuff.

720
00:39:44,400 –> 00:39:47,500
I think.
I audibly get II tensed up when

721
00:39:47,500 –> 00:39:50,400
he said and I know we’re not
supposed to say this because I’m

722
00:39:50,400 –> 00:39:55,200
like, oh, No, I was actually
honestly I’m a little relieved

723
00:39:55,200 –> 00:39:57,400
when it was just the word race.
Yeah.

724
00:39:57,400 –> 00:39:59,100
Because he said like some
nonsense.

725
00:39:59,100 –> 00:40:01,100
Yeah.
And he was just talking about it

726
00:40:01,100 –> 00:40:03,700
and like a D and D term to.
It was kind of weird like like

727
00:40:03,700 –> 00:40:07,400
when he was talking about how
Giants was him who exclaimed

728
00:40:07,400 –> 00:40:11,400
that Giants were real.
I want to say that was David

729
00:40:11,400 –> 00:40:13,200
chilled.
Yeah, yeah.

730
00:40:13,300 –> 00:40:17,200
I just remember that being a big
moment, well, because he had

731
00:40:17,200 –> 00:40:19,400
that whole thing about how
people are actually getting

732
00:40:19,400 –> 00:40:23,000
smaller.
Oh, that was Was fucking

733
00:40:23,000 –> 00:40:26,800
bizarre.
Oh, I forgot about that part

734
00:40:26,800 –> 00:40:28,900
until just now.
Holy shit.

735
00:40:28,900 –> 00:40:31,000
Because I believe, science says,
the opposite.

736
00:40:31,000 –> 00:40:34,300
It’s absolutely from based on
the archaeological evidence the

737
00:40:34,300 –> 00:40:35,500
opposite.
Yeah.

738
00:40:35,500 –> 00:40:38,400
And I could tell that’s a hill.
He will die on.

739
00:40:38,400 –> 00:40:45,700
He had a whole speech planned
for this topic and I’m like,

740
00:40:45,700 –> 00:40:49,900
this topic.
Yeah, he was, he was fired up.

741
00:40:49,900 –> 00:40:53,500
I don’t remember any of the
Tales of it because it didn’t

742
00:40:53,500 –> 00:40:57,400
make any sense to me at the time
and so, my brain couldn’t retain

743
00:40:57,400 –> 00:40:59,100
it.
Yeah, that felt like the moment

744
00:40:59,100 –> 00:41:04,800
where everyone else at the table
was like, David’s change, guys,

745
00:41:04,800 –> 00:41:07,300
he used to be cool.
Let’s become very animated, of

746
00:41:07,300 –> 00:41:10,400
course, Erich von daniken.
It was like, remember when Erich

747
00:41:10,400 –> 00:41:14,400
von daniken mentioned destroying
the Israelites?

748
00:41:15,300 –> 00:41:17,700
Yes.
And I was like, man in that

749
00:41:17,700 –> 00:41:22,400
accent, that sounds bad.
That sound It’s very bad coming

750
00:41:22,400 –> 00:41:26,100
from even though he was Ed not
talking about like he was

751
00:41:26,100 –> 00:41:29,800
talking about like biblical
stuff but like it also felt

752
00:41:29,800 –> 00:41:33,800
vaguely anti-semitic anyway.
He kept claiming that he was

753
00:41:33,800 –> 00:41:38,300
Jewish something like that.
That was really weird to me

754
00:41:38,300 –> 00:41:41,700
because he’s definitely not.
Yeah, I couldn’t tell if he was

755
00:41:41,707 –> 00:41:46,200
like claiming he was Jewish or
just because that’s a weird

756
00:41:46,200 –> 00:41:49,400
defense against anti-Semitism.
It sure is.

757
00:41:49,400 –> 00:41:51,300
And I don’t know if it’s gonna
play out.

758
00:41:51,400 –> 00:41:53,500
Out for him.
Call that the Jorge Santos

759
00:41:53,500 –> 00:41:57,300
defense.
I don’t know, he kept referring

760
00:41:57,300 –> 00:42:00,500
to our Jewish faith.
And I think, maybe what he

761
00:42:00,500 –> 00:42:04,600
actually meant was like, a
collective judeo Christian,

762
00:42:04,600 –> 00:42:06,200
right?
Or Judaism.

763
00:42:06,400 –> 00:42:10,700
May be sure, but it really felt
like he was trying to say that

764
00:42:10,700 –> 00:42:14,800
he was Jewish, but I looked.
And first of all, I knew that he

765
00:42:14,800 –> 00:42:19,500
was born a German Catholic but
also I looked to see if there

766
00:42:19,500 –> 00:42:23,100
had been updates.
And I was not able to find any

767
00:42:23,100 –> 00:42:25,000
information about it.
Yeah.

768
00:42:25,000 –> 00:42:29,800
I forgot the part from David
Childress is thing about people

769
00:42:29,800 –> 00:42:33,500
getting smaller, remember when
he said, it’s because of war,

770
00:42:33,600 –> 00:42:35,500
and he like, yes.
Oh yes.

771
00:42:35,500 –> 00:42:38,900
That’s the whole thing that is,
that was the center of his

772
00:42:38,900 –> 00:42:41,100
argument.
Now, it’s coming back where he’s

773
00:42:41,100 –> 00:42:44,100
like.
Yeah, because think about it,

774
00:42:44,100 –> 00:42:46,400
we’ve had so many.
This got first of all, talk

775
00:42:46,400 –> 00:42:50,600
about, definitely not on any
sort of solution like we’ve had,

776
00:42:51,400 –> 00:42:56,000
War throughout our history and
who do we send to fight the war?

777
00:42:56,300 –> 00:43:01,000
The tallest, the biggest, and
the strongest of our society.

778
00:43:01,200 –> 00:43:05,800
They go out and fight and die in
the war and that’s why we’re

779
00:43:05,800 –> 00:43:08,400
getting smaller.
And it’s like, what does this

780
00:43:08,400 –> 00:43:11,800
have to do with anything didn’t
have to do with any of the

781
00:43:11,800 –> 00:43:13,600
things that he was responding
to?

782
00:43:13,800 –> 00:43:16,900
But it was definitely, it was
entertaining.

783
00:43:16,900 –> 00:43:20,700
I didn’t understand a single
word of it but man, I remember

784
00:43:20,700 –> 00:43:22,200
that now.
Now, because that’s what he’s

785
00:43:22,200 –> 00:43:24,600
saying.
Like, you know, the Giants, man.

786
00:43:24,800 –> 00:43:26,800
The Giants.
I’m making them sound, like,

787
00:43:26,800 –> 00:43:36,200
fucking Shaggy from Scooby-Doo.
Shaggy, but yeah, what a sermon.

788
00:43:37,300 –> 00:43:41,500
And look, I feel bad about
making fun of any vendors at the

789
00:43:41,500 –> 00:43:44,800
marketplace.
I don’t feel bad at all about

790
00:43:44,800 –> 00:43:48,500
making fun of any of these
motherfuckers who makes so much

791
00:43:48,500 –> 00:43:51,100
Goddamn money on this awful
bullshit.

792
00:43:51,100 –> 00:43:56,800
And it was such a preaching to
the choir situation which that’s

793
00:43:56,800 –> 00:43:59,000
the thing.
Like if that is why we didn’t

794
00:43:59,000 –> 00:44:01,900
get press passes.
I mean, this is the thing like

795
00:44:01,900 –> 00:44:04,100
that’s why I said it might be
the Chariots of the Gods.

796
00:44:04,100 –> 00:44:05,800
Think the honestly, I don’t
know.

797
00:44:05,800 –> 00:44:06,900
Who knows?
Maybe they were.

798
00:44:07,100 –> 00:44:12,100
Cepting anybody we walk past the
a any press check-in desk and it

799
00:44:12,100 –> 00:44:16,000
seemed pretty slow got to say.
Yeah, that is true.

800
00:44:16,100 –> 00:44:19,400
And yeah, like Giorgio
Tsoukalos, he kept going back to

801
00:44:19,400 –> 00:44:23,300
that kind of talking point.
He’s just a fucking Showbiz guy.

802
00:44:23,500 –> 00:44:26,400
Everything he said ring, so
fucking fake to me.

803
00:44:26,500 –> 00:44:29,600
I don’t believe for a second
that he actually believes any of

804
00:44:29,600 –> 00:44:31,900
this shit.
Yeah, everything he was talking

805
00:44:31,900 –> 00:44:35,500
about, just seems so
disingenuous he was kept, you

806
00:44:35,508 –> 00:44:37,700
know, egging for Applause.
And shit.

807
00:44:37,700 –> 00:44:40,100
Yeah, one point.
He said who’s insulting who?

808
00:44:40,100 –> 00:44:41,400
Yeah.
Did you see the thing?

809
00:44:41,400 –> 00:44:45,800
When he came out, he liked
switched to of the name tag so

810
00:44:45,800 –> 00:44:47,500
he was sitting in a different
spot.

811
00:44:47,500 –> 00:44:48,900
Oh yeah.
What was that about?

812
00:44:49,200 –> 00:44:52,400
I don’t know if people laughed
so maybe it was a joke about

813
00:44:52,400 –> 00:44:55,700
him, wanting to sit between Eric
and someone else.

814
00:44:55,700 –> 00:44:56,500
I don’t know.
Yeah.

815
00:44:56,500 –> 00:44:58,800
Maybe he’s got like beef with
David Childress.

816
00:44:58,800 –> 00:45:00,900
Maybe.
I don’t know differing opinions.

817
00:45:00,900 –> 00:45:04,100
And, you know what?
I don’t care about that at all.

818
00:45:04,200 –> 00:45:06,800
I care about what they’re saying
at this bullshit thing.

819
00:45:07,100 –> 00:45:08,200
Haha.
Yes.

820
00:45:08,200 –> 00:45:11,400
But also this was around the
point where I stopped caring

821
00:45:11,400 –> 00:45:15,000
about what they were saying.
Yeah well I mean they talked for

822
00:45:15,000 –> 00:45:17,100
a while.
I didn’t look at the clock.

823
00:45:17,200 –> 00:45:20,100
So I wasn’t sure.
They could have been 10 minutes.

824
00:45:20,100 –> 00:45:23,400
It could have been an hour that
we had been listening to them.

825
00:45:23,700 –> 00:45:28,200
Just kind of free-associate
about various topics relating,

826
00:45:28,200 –> 00:45:32,400
to Ancient Aliens and things of
that sort.

827
00:45:32,700 –> 00:45:37,600
And then they got a Q&A, right?
Well, Giorgio suit Close brought

828
00:45:37,600 –> 00:45:41,800
it home talking about
bottlenecks and yes evolutionary

829
00:45:41,800 –> 00:45:47,600
revolutionary bottlenecks and
how we’ve survived two of those.

830
00:45:47,900 –> 00:45:50,600
That a third one is coming.
Sure.

831
00:45:50,600 –> 00:45:53,000
In that, we might not survive
that one.

832
00:45:53,300 –> 00:45:55,900
And I took that opportunity,
just because people had been

833
00:45:55,900 –> 00:45:59,900
applauding at the weirdest
points throughout the night when

834
00:45:59,900 –> 00:46:02,200
he said, we might not survive.
The third one.

835
00:46:02,200 –> 00:46:05,000
I just started class and no one
join me.

836
00:46:05,000 –> 00:46:10,100
It was weird, but It seems like
his opinion is that we survived

837
00:46:10,100 –> 00:46:12,500
those because aliens came down
and helped and now they’re not

838
00:46:12,500 –> 00:46:14,200
gonna because we’re not nice
anymore.

839
00:46:14,200 –> 00:46:16,200
Sure.
Because we’re mean to ya.

840
00:46:16,200 –> 00:46:21,100
Ancient, Aliens, aliens, he made
a couple of right and left they

841
00:46:21,100 –> 00:46:24,300
just need to come together man.
He said that a few times in

842
00:46:24,300 –> 00:46:27,900
addition to like talking about
like religion and science coming

843
00:46:27,900 –> 00:46:31,200
together and like facts, but I
don’t want to hear that from

844
00:46:31,200 –> 00:46:34,400
him, especially because of that
documentary, we covered a while

845
00:46:34,400 –> 00:46:37,400
back, where the guy was like,
no, you can see, It in a

846
00:46:37,400 –> 00:46:41,500
person’s DNA, if they’re like
extra enhance aliens and maybe

847
00:46:41,500 –> 00:46:44,400
people who’ve been impacted by
them, deserve some reparations

848
00:46:44,400 –> 00:46:46,600
and also genocide.
Yeah.

849
00:46:46,600 –> 00:46:50,600
I mean, like, I don’t know, I
find the whole ideology such a

850
00:46:50,600 –> 00:46:54,000
bummer and it’s, so, obviously
just money for him.

851
00:46:54,400 –> 00:46:56,600
Yeah, I don’t know.
Like, he’ll just go with

852
00:46:56,600 –> 00:47:00,300
whatever bullshit theory that
anyone wants to come up with.

853
00:47:00,600 –> 00:47:02,700
I’ve never really watched
Ancient Aliens.

854
00:47:02,700 –> 00:47:06,400
I’m going to say that.
Now, I’ve only watched maybe a

855
00:47:06,400 –> 00:47:09,000
full No, I don’t think I’ve ever
watched a full episode.

856
00:47:09,100 –> 00:47:12,900
I at one point had seen it all,
but that was like, 18 seasons

857
00:47:12,900 –> 00:47:15,600
ago because right, like seventy
five seasons of the show.

858
00:47:15,600 –> 00:47:19,200
I am going no idea how.
Yeah, it’s been going for so

859
00:47:19,200 –> 00:47:20,500
long.
Every episode.

860
00:47:20,500 –> 00:47:23,100
I have to imagine is the exact
same.

861
00:47:23,100 –> 00:47:26,000
I have to imagine that every
week they just are the same

862
00:47:26,000 –> 00:47:28,800
episode.
Well, we meaning me, and Laura

863
00:47:28,800 –> 00:47:33,400
Crawford, at one point tried to
do like, what you and I did.

864
00:47:33,400 –> 00:47:35,300
And I remember, Jesse Ventura
thing.

865
00:47:35,300 –> 00:47:38,100
Yeah.
And we got like a few episodes.

866
00:47:38,100 –> 00:47:39,100
Yeah.
It’s like it’s just going to be

867
00:47:39,100 –> 00:47:40,600
the same thing every fucking
time.

868
00:47:40,600 –> 00:47:42,400
We talked about yeah, we gave
up.

869
00:47:42,500 –> 00:47:44,600
Yeah.
And also it’s like always finish

870
00:47:44,600 –> 00:47:45,800
it.
Yeah it sucked.

871
00:47:45,800 –> 00:47:49,600
There was a but yeah it was
weird event man.

872
00:47:49,600 –> 00:47:51,300
The energy in the room was
weird.

873
00:47:51,400 –> 00:47:53,100
Yeah and then there was the key
word, right?

874
00:47:53,100 –> 00:47:57,400
And then there was the Q&A.
We both kind of were like oh oh

875
00:47:57,400 –> 00:48:01,400
this is worth its really fasten.
My seatbelt announced that was

876
00:48:01,400 –> 00:48:03,700
happening.
The event has finally begun.

877
00:48:04,100 –> 00:48:06,900
This is all been like the 20
like at the movie.

878
00:48:07,000 –> 00:48:09,800
They’re here, it’s not even the
trailers.

879
00:48:09,800 –> 00:48:14,200
It’s just like the little ads
beforehand and it was such a

880
00:48:14,200 –> 00:48:19,000
weird mix of like, hmm.
People coming up and being like

881
00:48:19,000 –> 00:48:23,600
thank you for everything you’ve
done for ya Eddie and it’s like

882
00:48:23,600 –> 00:48:27,900
people it’s a TV show ya what
have I done, what have they done

883
00:48:27,900 –> 00:48:31,500
for society?
And then there were also people

884
00:48:31,500 –> 00:48:35,300
who were asking questions.
But in that way, where they

885
00:48:35,300 –> 00:48:38,100
either knew what the answer was
going to be, Be, or they were

886
00:48:38,100 –> 00:48:40,100
like trying to impress
everybody.

887
00:48:40,100 –> 00:48:43,400
All right, babe, honestly, I
don’t know if anybody actually

888
00:48:43,400 –> 00:48:46,800
ever asked a question.
Like they would always say, I’ve

889
00:48:46,800 –> 00:48:50,400
got a question and then they
would ramble for a little while.

890
00:48:50,400 –> 00:48:52,300
Yeah.
And then they would stop talking

891
00:48:52,300 –> 00:48:56,300
and expectantly.
Wait, it was a lot like the

892
00:48:56,300 –> 00:49:02,000
Chris Farley sketch where they’d
be like, remember when you and

893
00:49:02,000 –> 00:49:05,600
John Lennon wrote that song.
Yeah, that was cool.

894
00:49:05,800 –> 00:49:08,200
Yeah.
Kind of questions, people were

895
00:49:08,200 –> 00:49:11,400
throwing out there, right?
Multiple times the panelists.

896
00:49:11,400 –> 00:49:16,300
And again, these are for people
who are fucking nut jobs, had to

897
00:49:16,300 –> 00:49:18,800
be like, I’m sorry.
I didn’t understand your

898
00:49:18,800 –> 00:49:24,400
question.
Yes, and it was the only time me

899
00:49:24,400 –> 00:49:26,800
in that panel really agreed on
anything.

900
00:49:27,100 –> 00:49:31,500
Yeah, I did not understand most
of those questions there were

901
00:49:31,500 –> 00:49:35,100
some like and I’ve talked about
this on the show before it was a

902
00:49:35,107 –> 00:49:38,800
guy who was talking about, I was
genetically modified.

903
00:49:38,800 –> 00:49:42,900
And like I’ve got microchips
under my skin and I’m like, oh

904
00:49:42,908 –> 00:49:45,000
my God, I really hope that guy’s
okay.

905
00:49:45,100 –> 00:49:48,100
And he, because he was also the
one who was, like, in the

906
00:49:48,100 –> 00:49:50,000
aliens, they have a message,
right?

907
00:49:50,100 –> 00:49:52,300
Right that I’m supposed to
deliver which is that they’re

908
00:49:52,300 –> 00:49:55,700
not coming here to harm us and I
was like, that’s what the aliens

909
00:49:55,700 –> 00:49:57,200
who are coming here to harm us
would say.

910
00:49:57,200 –> 00:49:59,400
That’s what they would do
through your psychically,

911
00:49:59,400 –> 00:50:02,200
hijacked body.
If that’s true.

912
00:50:02,200 –> 00:50:04,400
That was an alien inside a
problem.

913
00:50:04,400 –> 00:50:06,900
I don’t know that I trust that.
Yeah, I’m that Source.

914
00:50:07,400 –> 00:50:10,100
But also like, yeah, part was
awkward.

915
00:50:10,100 –> 00:50:11,400
Yeah.
And a little sad.

916
00:50:11,400 –> 00:50:13,400
That was, that was a bummer.
It really that.

917
00:50:13,400 –> 00:50:16,500
That happens every fucking alien
has to do.

918
00:50:16,700 –> 00:50:19,000
And what did they say?
Thank you for sharing your

919
00:50:19,000 –> 00:50:21,000
story.
Thank you for your Thank you for

920
00:50:21,000 –> 00:50:22,400
your courage.
Now.

921
00:50:22,400 –> 00:50:25,800
Please don’t go and cut your
skin open trying to dig the

922
00:50:25,800 –> 00:50:27,400
microchips out.
Right?

923
00:50:27,400 –> 00:50:29,800
Well, yeah, that was rough.
Yeah.

924
00:50:29,800 –> 00:50:32,900
Remember the guy talking.
What’s the record the guy kept

925
00:50:32,900 –> 00:50:35,500
bringing up and like oh the
akashic record.

926
00:50:35,600 –> 00:50:38,400
Oh, that was so funny.
Oh my God.

927
00:50:38,400 –> 00:50:42,400
So this guy had this really long
rambling question comment thing

928
00:50:42,400 –> 00:50:49,200
about like, how about a i AI
hacking or using AI to access

929
00:50:49,200 –> 00:50:51,400
the akashic?
Record akashic reading for

930
00:50:51,400 –> 00:50:54,300
people at home who don’t know
the akashic record is a

931
00:50:54,300 –> 00:50:58,800
collective psychic history of
the entire species as

932
00:50:58,800 –> 00:51:03,300
Consciousness, right supposedly
exists and The Ether literally a

933
00:51:03,300 –> 00:51:07,500
e th e aren’t of the world like
in the occult sense, right?

934
00:51:07,500 –> 00:51:12,300
And so basically it’s a library
of all human existence and he’s

935
00:51:12,300 –> 00:51:16,300
saying yeah, like the way that
we use AI to like search for

936
00:51:16,300 –> 00:51:20,900
porn on the cloud.
Can we use AI to To access the

937
00:51:20,900 –> 00:51:24,000
akashic record, and he said that
and then they were like sorry,

938
00:51:24,000 –> 00:51:27,100
we we didn’t understand, you
know, they would kind of talk a

939
00:51:27,107 –> 00:51:29,300
little bit.
They weren’t doing the we didn’t

940
00:51:29,300 –> 00:51:32,300
understand what you were saying,
but they did keep saying over

941
00:51:32,300 –> 00:51:35,600
and over having him repeat
akashic record and he said it

942
00:51:35,600 –> 00:51:40,100
like four times and then Giorgio
was like Oh, you mean the

943
00:51:40,100 –> 00:51:43,900
akashic records?
And the guy was like, yeah,

944
00:51:43,900 –> 00:51:47,200
that’s what I’ve been saying,
everyone.

945
00:51:47,200 –> 00:51:50,300
Except the panel, heard him.
Yeah is rustic.

946
00:51:50,300 –> 00:51:52,800
Record a million times really
funny.

947
00:51:54,600 –> 00:51:58,600
And that was another of those
questions where we finally spit

948
00:51:58,600 –> 00:52:00,200
it out.
It was just like, what do you

949
00:52:00,200 –> 00:52:02,500
think of that?
Yeah, and they were like, I

950
00:52:02,500 –> 00:52:04,400
don’t know.
Can we get out of here revised?

951
00:52:04,400 –> 00:52:05,700
Yeah.
Like that’s the thing about the

952
00:52:05,700 –> 00:52:08,000
Q&A.
It was it was like every bad

953
00:52:08,000 –> 00:52:10,400
Q&A.
Yeah, thing that you could do in

954
00:52:10,400 –> 00:52:15,800
a row one after the other, there
was the girl who is like, um, I

955
00:52:15,800 –> 00:52:19,900
am new to the show.
I was sick recently, so I caught

956
00:52:19,900 –> 00:52:22,900
up on Ancient Aliens and I’m
learning about all this.

957
00:52:23,100 –> 00:52:27,800
And I was just wondering if
you’d ever thought about talking

958
00:52:27,800 –> 00:52:31,300
about the impact of
hallucinogenics on the human

959
00:52:31,300 –> 00:52:34,800
brain and evolution and that
sort of thing and they’re like,

960
00:52:34,800 –> 00:52:38,200
yep, we’ve done that.
Yeah, she made it clear that she

961
00:52:38,200 –> 00:52:43,200
hadn’t watched the entire show
yet and she Even say, have you

962
00:52:43,200 –> 00:52:47,500
ever thought about it was almost
kind of like, well, why haven’t

963
00:52:47,500 –> 00:52:50,300
you talked about?
Yeah, that wasn’t Jensen

964
00:52:50,300 –> 00:52:53,300
psychedelics.
Like, that’s a thing that people

965
00:52:53,300 –> 00:52:56,500
talk about, in terms of alien
metal time and they were like we

966
00:52:56,500 –> 00:53:00,800
did they name the episode?
That’s such a desperate plea for

967
00:53:00,800 –> 00:53:02,800
attention.
Yeah, I’d be like, how come

968
00:53:02,800 –> 00:53:04,600
you’re not talking about
psychedelics even though I

969
00:53:04,607 –> 00:53:06,800
haven’t seen the whole show?
I kind of feel like maybe she

970
00:53:06,800 –> 00:53:10,100
was on psychedelics that time
seemed like she was really into

971
00:53:10,100 –> 00:53:11,900
it.
So that was a funny one.

972
00:53:12,000 –> 00:53:14,300
One.
And then there was, let’s see

973
00:53:14,800 –> 00:53:17,200
who were some of the other good
questions.

974
00:53:17,300 –> 00:53:19,900
There were no good question.
Well, you know what I mean?

975
00:53:19,900 –> 00:53:23,700
Like we’re like stand out so I’m
trying to remember, we did

976
00:53:23,700 –> 00:53:28,600
record audio of not to say we
did but I didn’t read it.

977
00:53:28,900 –> 00:53:31,900
I didn’t record any audio of
anything, you know.

978
00:53:32,100 –> 00:53:34,500
It’s not like anything that we
could play in the episode

979
00:53:34,500 –> 00:53:38,800
because they would not be good.
No, but we could access the

980
00:53:38,800 –> 00:53:43,300
akashic record and go back.
Watch and then maybe do a

981
00:53:43,300 –> 00:53:45,900
separate episode where we
attempt to answer all of those

982
00:53:45,900 –> 00:53:47,600
who knows?
Gge?

983
00:53:47,600 –> 00:53:50,600
Do sure.
Go ahead, famed, horror manga

984
00:53:50,600 –> 00:53:53,800
artist, huh?
He did a really great story that

985
00:53:53,800 –> 00:53:56,700
involved the akashic record that
was just really good.

986
00:53:56,900 –> 00:54:00,500
Didn’t that sort of come up?
I have something along those

987
00:54:00,500 –> 00:54:02,800
lines in the notes.
Okay, I didn’t.

988
00:54:02,800 –> 00:54:05,200
I don’t remember June GE do?
Yeah, I don’t know.

989
00:54:05,200 –> 00:54:08,300
But yeah, what a time it was
wild.

990
00:54:08,400 –> 00:54:11,000
I just can’t believe that we
stumbled into the fucking panel

991
00:54:11,000 –> 00:54:13,000
with Erich von I can?
Yeah.

992
00:54:13,000 –> 00:54:16,200
And he was a maniac.
Yeah, he was at everything that

993
00:54:16,200 –> 00:54:18,600
I thought he would be.
Yeah, it would be like going to

994
00:54:18,600 –> 00:54:21,800
a music festival and they don’t
tell you who’s on what stage,

995
00:54:21,800 –> 00:54:23,800
right?
Just like randomly see the

996
00:54:23,800 –> 00:54:25,500
headliner, right?
Exactly.

997
00:54:25,500 –> 00:54:28,000
Yeah, exactly.
Because it could have gone so

998
00:54:28,000 –> 00:54:30,900
many other ways.
Yeah, could have been awful but

999
00:54:30,900 –> 00:54:34,400
I we might not be having an
episode but because of the

1000
00:54:34,600 –> 00:54:40,900
celestial intervention of our
alien overlords everything

1001
00:54:40,900 –> 00:54:41,800
worked out.
Yeah.

1002
00:54:42,100 –> 00:54:45,400
We got a whole episode out of
our trip to alien con.

1003
00:54:45,400 –> 00:54:49,100
You just watch Prometheus.
I mean that would be good even

1004
00:54:49,100 –> 00:54:50,900
if not for an episode which is
just fucking watch.

1005
00:54:50,900 –> 00:54:52,900
Prometheus like yeah it’s a good
movie.

1006
00:54:52,900 –> 00:54:57,400
Is it to me just as a total
annihilation of ancient alien

1007
00:54:57,600 –> 00:55:01,100
Theory as something that is
desirable or interesting?

1008
00:55:01,100 –> 00:55:03,500
Or yeah.
This just like, yeah, okay,

1009
00:55:03,500 –> 00:55:06,100
sure.
Yeah, aliens made us and then

1010
00:55:06,100 –> 00:55:10,100
what so it turns out maybe
that’s awful.

1011
00:55:10,500 –> 00:55:13,500
Yeah, so I think that’s our
episode, right?

1012
00:55:13,500 –> 00:55:14,800
Do we have any final?
Thoughts?

1013
00:55:14,800 –> 00:55:16,800
Would you go back to alien con
next year?

1014
00:55:17,000 –> 00:55:20,900
Maybe I feel like I’ve gotten
everything that, I that mean.

1015
00:55:20,900 –> 00:55:23,800
I feel like it’s gonna be like
Ancient Aliens in that you go

1016
00:55:23,800 –> 00:55:26,000
back next year, right?
Pretty much the same.

1017
00:55:26,000 –> 00:55:28,900
It’ll just be a different Q&A,
right?

1018
00:55:28,900 –> 00:55:32,500
And maybe, maybe.
And I don’t know if that’s worth

1019
00:55:32,600 –> 00:55:36,300
the price of admission, but for
the one time, it was

1020
00:55:36,300 –> 00:55:39,200
interesting, I’ve enjoyed the
marketplace a lot.

1021
00:55:39,400 –> 00:55:42,900
Yeah, I mean, if you’re into
alien stuff, Yeah, sure.

1022
00:55:43,000 –> 00:55:47,000
Yes in town even if you don’t
believe in any sort of

1023
00:55:47,100 –> 00:55:52,000
alternative healing or whatever
like any sort of a cult or

1024
00:55:52,000 –> 00:55:55,000
alternative thing that you can
think of if you have an interest

1025
00:55:55,000 –> 00:55:59,600
in it at all like as a curiosity
that’s basically the most

1026
00:55:59,600 –> 00:56:04,500
concentrated different kinds of
that energy that you can get in

1027
00:56:04,500 –> 00:56:05,800
one place.
Yeah.

1028
00:56:05,800 –> 00:56:09,100
But it’s all sponsored by A&E
which is so fucking weird.

1029
00:56:09,200 –> 00:56:11,200
Oh, should we just get a booth
there next year?

1030
00:56:11,200 –> 00:56:13,500
Fuck.
No, we should get a booth at a

1031
00:56:13,500 –> 00:56:14,800
long time.
Next year.

1032
00:56:15,000 –> 00:56:18,200
Adam, we would get murdered in
the parking lot, but we should

1033
00:56:18,200 –> 00:56:22,400
absolutely try to get.
I I would actually be at.

1034
00:56:22,400 –> 00:56:24,100
That would be fun.
I think we might.

1035
00:56:24,100 –> 00:56:26,000
I think that would be really
fun.

1036
00:56:26,000 –> 00:56:28,800
Yeah, we’ll keep our eyes.
Okay, Evie of the fucking 50

1037
00:56:28,800 –> 00:56:31,500
First.
Can they’re just a cosplayers?

1038
00:56:32,400 –> 00:56:35,600
Come on now, either that or
we’ll just get concession stand

1039
00:56:35,600 –> 00:56:38,000
jobs, and then quit.
No work that day.

1040
00:56:38,100 –> 00:56:43,500
I’m good, not even for a joke.
True.

1041
00:56:44,400 –> 00:56:49,500
No, unless like you get like $50
an hour work at there and I

1042
00:56:49,508 –> 00:56:55,300
doubt it free chefs combo.
She’s so Chef special.

1043
00:56:55,300 –> 00:56:58,500
Sorry, yes.
So I think that’s our episode.

1044
00:56:58,600 –> 00:57:02,600
We did it, we did do it.
We did go to alien kind of

1045
00:57:02,600 –> 00:57:04,500
thing.
This is like the things we do

1046
00:57:04,500 –> 00:57:07,900
for you people, man.
You better?

1047
00:57:07,900 –> 00:57:10,000
Thank us.
Olivia, thanks so much.

1048
00:57:10,100 –> 00:57:11,800
Do you?
We have anything to plug?

1049
00:57:11,900 –> 00:57:16,500
Ugh, before we get out of here I
mean not really you can find me

1050
00:57:16,500 –> 00:57:18,700
on the dying website.
Twitter.com.

1051
00:57:18,900 –> 00:57:21,700
Hi, there hide our.
Other than that, I don’t care.

1052
00:57:21,800 –> 00:57:25,100
We’re about to record the season
finale of The Lost.

1053
00:57:25,100 –> 00:57:28,800
Yes, that’s it.
Which means the Lost podcast

1054
00:57:28,800 –> 00:57:31,200
will be out publicly, but yes.
Yeah.

1055
00:57:31,200 –> 00:57:34,700
And if you’re not a subscriber
and haven’t been listening to

1056
00:57:34,700 –> 00:57:38,200
the Lost pod, now, you’ll be
able to should without even

1057
00:57:38,200 –> 00:57:39,900
giving us any monies and ones
ending.

1058
00:57:39,900 –> 00:57:41,900
And you know what, you know, the
cool thing.

1059
00:57:42,000 –> 00:57:44,100
Thing about season two fucking
owns.

1060
00:57:44,100 –> 00:57:45,500
Yeah.
Season to a largely.

1061
00:57:45,500 –> 00:57:48,500
So excited to start watching.
Lost season 2.

1062
00:57:48,600 –> 00:57:52,400
Yeah, so yeah, check all that
out and I think that’s it.

1063
00:57:52,400 –> 00:57:55,200
Let’s get out of here.
Olivia, say goodbye.

1064
00:57:55,300 –> 00:57:56,500
Goodbye everybody.
We love you.

1065
00:58:01,900 –> 00:58:02,300
People have a boy.

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