Conspiracy! The Show 226: My Favorite Conspiracy: Paul Is Dead (w/Kym Kral)

December 15, 2022

Adam welcomes special guest Kym Kral to defend her favorite conspiracy theory, which is the one that claims music legend Paul McCartney actually died in 1966 and was replaced by an imposter.

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Welcome to conspiracy the show.
The world’s most trusted

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conspiracy theory podcast with
your host, Adam Todd Brown and

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Olivia haydar Hey everybody,
Welcome to conspiracy the show.

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I’m your host, Adam top brown
joining me as co-host today.

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Oh, my favorite co-host of all
know co-host, but I do have a

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very special guest comedian.
Kim, crawl is here Kim.

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How’s it going?
Hi, I’m excited.

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I’m nervous though to I am super
excited.

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This is like my one opinion that
stops every conversation once I

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bring it up, clears rooms.
Men have ghosted.

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Me like this is my one opinion
that like might be my one weird

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thing.
Yeah, I mean the whole reason

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we’re doing this is because you
were on an episode of the on

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pops podcast not too long ago
and you said the name Paul

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McCartney and then threw up some
air quotes.

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I did do that.
I do do that.

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What’s did actually kind of stop
the podcast in its tracks.

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So we could ask what the what
the air quotes were about.

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About and you think Paul
McCartney died in the 1960s,

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right?
A lot of people think Paul

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McCartney died in the 1960s.
That’s true.

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That’s true.
We’re doing kind of a format

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Buster here today.
Normally, I bring all the

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research, I do all the legwork
and I relay The Conspiracy to

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the co-host or the guests and
the audience and you know, they

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decide go in the other way.
This time Kim is going to tell

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me why.
It is true that Paul McCartney

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died in 1966.
I think 1966 November 9th 1960s

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911.
No November 9th 11:9, but I

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guess in an England though, it’s
a 911.

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Yeah God, yeah.
So Paul McCartney died on 9/11,

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go on.
Okay, so the story is the story

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is, and I watched a documentary
yesterday to in between power

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outages that made me kind of
believe it more.

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Or even though they called the
replacement a different name but

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the full name.
Okay, so basically in 1966

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around midnight, November 9th
1966, The Beatles, go into

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recording and Paul and John get
in a fight over lyrics, Right?

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Hmm.
They got in a big fight over

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lyrics, Paul gets increasingly
flustered upset.

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So he leaves he leaves and he
dies, he gets a big car accident

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and basically gets decapitated,
right?

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And so there’s two stories so
the Sorry I knew before and then

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the story from the documentary
because the story from the

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documentary and I’m kind of
using air quotes because I just

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I don’t feel like they can make
a documentary, call it a

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documentary.
How many kind of times can I say

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the word document?
I know it’s really I don’t even

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think it’s a real word anymore
take a drink every time I do

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it’s 9:00 a.m. that the story is
that like the manager they saw

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was Paul McCartney and it was
like you have to understand at

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the time in 1966 beatlemania was
at its height.

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Like it was like like Like
people were would have killed

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themselves, had someone like him
died, right?

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Also England was buzzing because
if they won the World Cup so go

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on a ride with me they’re like
fuck.

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We have like, right?
So the manager so the doc the

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doc documentary.
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Take a drink.
The documentary says that

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someone from Mi MI5, contacted
the remaining Beatles found

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them.
And this, by the way, this is

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set up as its George Harrison’s.
Last will and testament and this

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whole Memory is set up around
the fact that like that, the MI5

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was going to kill the Beatles if
they came forward with this

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Billy shears thing.
So that the documentary you’re

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talking about the one with the
George Harrison audio.

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Yes.
But it’s not him.

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If you go to IMDb and some guy
named or it’s like a

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mockumentary, I don’t think
tonight, I don’t think that’s

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like a real documentary.
I watch.

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I watch that like 10 years ago.
Was it called Paul is really

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dead.
We’re going to look this up.

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How do you, how do you know if
it’s a mockumentary?

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What if we drill by the way?
I thought this was real before I

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watched this documentary.
Hurry.

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But wait, it’s not a how it okay
where does it say mock you?

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I feel like that’s a spoof but I
don’t know.

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Maybe maybe I’m wrong.
Go on, I don’t.

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All right.
We’re gonna keep going.

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I don’t think it’s a spoof is
your food.

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I don’t know, either way, but
the podcast isn’t over because

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this is how I felt before I
watched this thing.

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So basically, they had held a
par McCartney look-alike contest

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randomly.
So they hold held this random

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pot like Tiger Beat something
like that.

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And this, this orphan, the
Scottish orphan named Billy

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shears, one.
So the contact Billy shears and

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they basically the plan was only
like a week or so, let’s just

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like this happened.
So suddenly let’s like give

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ourselves some time.
So we don’t have to announce,

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like, possibly one of the most
tragic deaths ever, right?

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Not really, but especially in
that time how how crazy

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beatlemania was.
So the plan was and then Billy

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shears wasn’t really that bad.
The thing is though, he’s a

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right handed guitar player.
Okay, I’m just going to read the

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notes now, you ready for the
that?

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That’s that’s the thing him for
the Beatles to have put a

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replacement Paul McCartney in
place and recorded the music.

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They recorded they D, they
needed way more than a

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look-alike like no.
And that’s the other thing

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though right?
Before Paul McCartney died, they

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had announced that they were
changing their look and stopping

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touring.
They decided to stop touring

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just randomly before that so
they were able to like take some

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time because they’re like we’re
changing our sound and that’s

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when Sgt pepper came out.
It was like a whole other and

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that album covers basically a
funeral to Paul that album cover

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has a lot of references to death
on it.

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And if you’re looking for
references to Paul McCartney’s

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death, you’ll find a lot of
references to death.

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Alright, that album cover but
you’ll also find references to

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death in literally everything.
And that thing you just said

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about them changing their look
and their sound and their style.

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Is that maybe what they’re
thrown the funeral for is the

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old version of The Beatles.
Eels.

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Now you are you sure?
Yes, cuz why wouldn’t they just

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say that?
Because they’re boring like, why

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would they, why would they say
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Why would they say this album
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the old Beatles Baby?
Like we knew like you knew that

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looking at it but that
represented a different version

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of The Beatles.
But it also could possibly be

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that there’s a bunch of
references to Paul dying.

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It could be.
But I I am not in any way shape

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or form convinced at all.
No, no.

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Okay.
This is how I feel McCartney was

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young in 1966.
And I’ve seen like, I’ve looked

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at the evidence and for one
thing a lot of the evidence is

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made up like all the stuff from
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The person who put that out into
the world has since made it

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clear that he was joking.
And that it’s not like he didn’t

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really intend people to take
that as As facts like the 28

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now, 28 and how it was like a
funeral.

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Like, okay.
Well, the weird thing is about,

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after all, that Paul is
different in every album cover,

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like every all the three
regional Beatles, the three

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original alive, Beatles, and
don’t get me wrong.

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I think.
Okay, the way I really think

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about this is if five or ten
years from now, Paul, McCartney,

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Paul McCartney was like, Hey,
I’m really Billy shears.

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That whole thing was real, it
wouldn’t be, it wouldn’t matter.

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Because he’s been Paul McCartney
like Paul McCartney.

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Number two, has been Paul
McCartney longer than Paul

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McCartney.
Number one was.

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So he’s basically Paul McCartney
Sophie came forward and was

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like, I’m actually this but I’m
so Paul McCartney.

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I would be like, I am not
surprised but if you know what I

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never told them, that’s the
whole thing with any good

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conspiracy theory.
A really important question to

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ask is why, like, why would this
be such a big deal?

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And you mentioned, well, the
Beatles were so huge in 1966 and

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people would have been All
upset.

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If what if think the devastated,
right?

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But four years later they
weren’t like the Beatles broke

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up four years later.
Yeah.

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And the and they say the reason
why they actually broke up was

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because the new Paul McCartney
and John couldn’t get along and

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John wouldn’t quit making all
these references on the album

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cover do you think I’m crazy?
I don’t think you’re crazy but I

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think you need to at least take
into account that John Lennon

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might have been fucking with you
know, like the Beatles new of

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Rumor like Paul McCartney was
interviewed in it, interviewed

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about it in Life Magazine
because after the rumor started

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spreading, he like Life Magazine
went to his fucking Farm.

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They also broke into his farm
and they actually broke into the

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farm in Scotland where Billy
shears is from.

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Now, if you and he was angry and
was like, fine, come in here and

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take these pictures whatever
will do the interview because

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they were like, we got a bunch
of pictures of you that you

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don’t want out there.
But if you give us an interview,

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like I don’t think it was was a
scheduled interview.

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I think they just want.
They just they just showed up at

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his place.
Yeah, which is what you do.

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If there’s a rumor that a fake
Paul McCartney is out there in

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the world you don’t call and
say, hey, can we talk to this

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fake?
Paul McCartney?

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You show up like Jesse Ventura
but he’s like Paul McCartney at

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this point, right?
Like he’s like at that point is

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Lifetime actors.
Billy shears died?

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At least yours died when pot
like the real Paul McCartney

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died.
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Meaning like that guy took on
and then that’s what.

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The maybe documentary that it
doesn’t say mockumentary

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anywhere.
It has to say that if it’s a

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mockumentary.
So what what does the

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documentary?
What is the documentary say?

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It?
Does it mention that Life

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Magazine interview?
Yes.

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And is that, let me guess.
That’s just part of the plot

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right now.
They will mentioned it.

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So briefly, I only know about
that from other research, I’ve

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done things I’m interested in.
It does seem pretty important

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that like actual journalist went
out to Paul McCartney at the

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time, this rumor was
circulating.

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Well, let me ask Ask you here,
he is, but if he’s there there

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look alike, there’s plastic
surgery.

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That’s what the documentary
said.

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They’re like, the reason why MI5
was so invested is that they

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were like we don’t want to have
mass hysteria on our hands will

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give this guy minor plastic
surgery, right?

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And so it was like, we’ve used
so much of the government

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resources.
Now it sounds really crazy.

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That’s saying that, like, you
can’t expose us because we

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shouldn’t tell the world were
using government resources to,

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like fake a beetle, but let me
ask you.

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The journal is go to the farm
and it is an in my world.

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It is a fake, not Paul
McCartney, just pretend it is

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right.
Pretend we know it is they’re

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not going to go there and be
like are you fake Paul McCartney

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and he’s not going to like this
is like a well-developed Li.

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And at this point this is like a
full-blown life.

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You know what I mean?
So like they’re going to show up

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and he’s not gonna be like I got
me with my pants down, you know

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like he’s gonna be like yeah,
I’m Paul McCartney because he’s

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had to be Paul McCartney was all
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It was Isn’t that long into it
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But it’s not.
It’s not like, it’s not like

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somebody, like I’m not famous
like that, right?

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Uh-huh, someday.
I leaned into my microphone, you

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can’t see it because of the
thing, but still they give

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someone like they decided to
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Instead of just letting me die.
Whoever replace me could like be

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themselves, most of the time,
Paul McCartney was like in the

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spotlight so Billy shears had.
So maybe it wasn’t that long

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into the rumor but it went on
for a couple of years before

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people started taking it.
Slowly it started in the states.

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Well, yeah it started with an
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Yeah.
Where it was just someone like

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asking about it.
But why did they ask about it?

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I couldn’t find like, why was
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Why did this person?
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the actual origin of this rumor
is kind of unknown and the only

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Genesis of it that we know is
the articles that start talking

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about it where like it was
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magazine where they were like,
no fucking Paul is not dead.

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It was covered in a couple
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It was covered on a radio show
but no one knows exactly where

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the rumor started.
I don’t know which version of

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the crash you believe because he
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Yeah.
And the version I’ve always

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heard is that he picked up a
hitchhiker named Rita.

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Oh, is that lovely Rita meter
maid?

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Let me guess maybe.
Here’s the thing that I yeah her

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name was Rita, they actually
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She came back and was like Hey
I’ve decided I would like money

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or something for keeping us dry
the version.

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I’ve always heard, it’s the girl
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crash. 20 I heard she didn’t die
and the version I’ve always

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heard is she gets in the car and
sees that it’s Paul McCartney

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that picked her up and she’s so
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She freaks out and hugs him and
they both died in a car crash

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which raises the question.
Question who witnessed her

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freaking out and grabbing his
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If it was easy, I always knew
she, I thought she lived.

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Well, tell me about her then.
Okay, so I heard she lived.

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So M13 go like this guy, a
Maxwell goes and gets the

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remaining Beatles at their
recording studio.

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You can’t make that face at me,
is this the Maxwell referenced

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in Maxwell’s, Silver Hammer.
I love how all of these people

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have names that match Beatles
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Here’s the thing.
Eleanor Rigby is apparently

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about Paul’s rip ears.
There’s only three people there.

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Wait, here’s the thing, MI6 and
the CIA both are brutal

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intelligence agencies.
If Johnny Lennon was

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intentionally putting Clues to
an MI6 plot on a Beatles album,

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they would fucking kill him.
I’m sorry.

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Where is John Lennon now.
Yeah, he died in 1980.

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You think they held him in 1984
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The Beatles.
I think that they receive from

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their albums.
Think the clues were very like,

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look what people were talking
about the clues?

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When the albums were out, like,
it was in the daily duties.

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Yes, like the article, the
article, you’re referencing

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where it all started in the
United States.

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That was like, 68.
Oh yeah, I know that.

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But like the the reason why they
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I don’t know much about John
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And that makes me really sad
because I don’t want to know why

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that guy did it.
But like, a lot of the articles

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are saying it’s because you’re
not a lot but You have the

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articles are saying not
understand how crazy I sound.

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By the way, I understand.
I’m just saying it’s one of the

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small ones that I’m, like, maybe
I don’t doubt.

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There might have been some
intelligence agency involvement

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in the death of John Lennon.
But if there was, it has nothing

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to do with Clues and beetles,
that because think of what you

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just, so he was gonna go to the,
the documentary, mockumentary,

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whatever it was was like, no, he
called George Harrison.

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He was like, enough’s enough.
Enough.

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I can’t live with this lie
anymore, it’s been enough time.

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I’m just going to I’m going to
move to the states and I’m gonna

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I’m going to come out with it.
Are you moved to the states?

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And then he’s like, I’m going to
come out with it.

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Finally, in George Harrison was
never.

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So this is another weird thing,
okay?

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Real quick George Harrison spent
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And after this, because he was,
like, I was so scared to leave

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because of all of this and
number two, and they were

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inducted into the Hall of Fame.
Paul McCartney, didn’t go and

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George Harrison was like, yeah,
you know, Wasn’t a part of that

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so it’s fine like there’s an
interview of George Harrison,

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actual George Harrison his face.
He didn’t say it was a part of

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that but he goes, yeah, he
wasn’t there and they’re like,

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do you find that weird?
And he’s like, no, we had a good

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time without him.
They didn’t get along.

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Like they’re really not every
member of Creedence Clearwater

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Revival showed up when they were
inducted into the Rock and Roll

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Hall of Fame.
It doesn’t mean John Fogerty

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faked his death in the 1960s.
It just means I fucking hated

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each other by the 80s.
Like there’s melee TV

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mini-series about how much John
and All fucking hated each

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other.
There’s nothing about Paul

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McCartney not showing up for the
Rock and Roll Hall of Fame,

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induction ceremony.
That leads me to believe he died

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in a car, crash in the 619 66
and I don’t know, I still if

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John Lennon was killed by
government forces, it would have

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been because of the kind of
person, he was in the influence

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he had because he was killed at
a huge turning point in world

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history.
The United States starts really

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going hard in the paint in Latin
America fighting communism and

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he’s 81.
What do you mean?

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I thought that was more 70s.
It was during the Reagan

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Administration, he was elected
in 1980.

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Okay, and John Lennon would
absolutely be the type who could

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organize people in rally them
around in anti-war message

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because it’s a thing he had
already done and I’m not

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speculating that.
That’s why John Lennon was

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killed, but if a government
entity killed him, it wouldn’t

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be because of Clues on a Beatles
album.

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You just said yourself.
If Paul McCartney came out

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tomorrow and was like, yeah, I
was actually Billy shears that

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whole time.
No one would give a fuck like

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what we wild and be a wild thing
to learn about, but it wouldn’t

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be like it would, it would be a
wild thing to learn about that.

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The world would care about for a
day or two.

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Yeah, I mean I would probably
care about longer I’ve dedicated

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a lot of time to I bet you
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long as you think.
I mean, maybe a week because

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it’s just it’s not that
important.

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Like it’s not and maybe that’s
what Paul McCartney now is like,

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this isn’t really that
important.

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I’ve lived a good life as Paul
McCartney I’m technically Paul

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McCartney.
Okay?

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So, tell me some of the other
Clues.

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Tell me about some of the other
proof.

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Well, it was mostly about the
album stuff, but you sort of

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devote that right away.
So do you want me to just

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dreaming?
Well, do you have?

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Can you run us through some of
the clues on the album cover?

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Yes.
All right, so let’s start over.

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I am, I did read about a bunch
of these and I have thoughts on

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some of them.
If you, if you get to those,

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okay?
Let’s say a group of reporters,

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broken to.
Alright, the rumors died out.

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Okay about the rumors, died
after the reporters, broke in

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and found out, you know, and the
Life Time Magazine, the rumors

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died shortly after that, and
they felt that the Beatles were

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right?
Okay.

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Then the reason why they’re
saying that they did the clues

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on the album was because the
Beatles were wracked with guilt

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about their friend dying and how
they just sort of continued on.

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Okay, so Sergeant Pepper’s
Lonely Hearts Club, am club club

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band I always said Club am as a
kid.

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Okay.
Like Club am it depicted?

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Paul’s Funeral the cover centers
around Paul who is wearing a

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page that said a patch that says
OPD officially pronounced dead.

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It’s actually Ontario.
Police Department.

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Yeah.
Providence.

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Ontario Provincial, profitable
probably has something like

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that, something like this is
profitable on my notes, but I

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don’t think that’s a word on the
back cover.

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George is pointing to a line
that says Wednesday at 5:00,

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because that is when Paul was of
officially pronounced dead and

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weirdly enough.
November 9th 1966 was a

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Wednesday and he died at 5:00
a.m. on Wednesday.

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Why is he pointing at that?
Do you have the Sergeant Pepper?

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Lonely heart.
Bam.

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Do you want me to get the album
out?

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And we do.
I know I’m familiar with the

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album cover and I’ve heard about
these Clues.

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But again, that’s like saying
why did John say the walrus was

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Paul because he’s fucking with
you, like The Beatles knew about

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these rumors.
By this point Talbot, they

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seemed mad about it in
interviews.

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Like like when you ask Paul Paul
was like, no I’m alive.

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Why are what first he was like
how would you feel if people

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every time you sat down for an
interview were like, hey can I

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can I compare your ears to this
old picture of you?

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And see if it’s really.
You, of course, you’d be mad.

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I don’t know, I think it is kind
of funny.

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Well, they obviously did think
it was kind of funny.

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That’s why they put all those
Clues on the Sergeant Pepper

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album, you think that they had.
Okay, so then Paul, is the only

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one who has his back turned on
the album.

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There are also dozens of other
symbols for death in other

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cultures, but there was like,
literally dozens.

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And I didn’t understand most of
them, it was like, oh, and

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Italy, they do this.
So this is why they did this,

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like, well was it things people
point to is everyone else is

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wearing red, and Paul is wearing
blue.

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Yeah, I would I’ll be the one
covered in blood because the

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guilt is on their hands.
The blood is on their hands.

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Yeah, they really felt guilty
about this.

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That’s that’s for damned point.
I’m not points me where they

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where they feel guilty.
Well, they can’t feel guilty

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because of they feel guilty,
then they come forward.

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And then they prove that this is
an, they like they can’t Cho

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Guild.
So that’s what the album cover

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is, is just like Clues because
they feel guilty.

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This is the longest I’ve ever
talked about this.

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And I honestly thought I had way
more evident because most of the

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time, I’m like I have a whole
like two pages written out, but

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most of the time, no one ever
lets me get this far and they

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either leave or they don’t, they
don’t allow me to go in circles.

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You don’t think that there’s a
tall a possibility.

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Why would this rumors start?
I mean, rumors.

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Like this start all the time.
There’s a rumor, like this about

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Avril.
Lavigne.

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Yeah.
That one might be real to that

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one is absolutely not real.
Like, have you seen her talk?

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Okay, this is my only proof.
Listen.

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What’s your name?
You in and out we wait different

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human.
You have to just look a little

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harder.
Yes.

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There are videos that show
Avril, Lavigne singing.

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And it sounds like a different
person singing.

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There is also a 15 minute video,
thousands and thousands of

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views.
Very easy to find on YouTube

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where an actual vocal coach
explains why those two videos

430
00:22:24,700 –> 00:22:27,500
sound different.
They’re in different settings,

431
00:22:27,600 –> 00:22:30,300
they are the Acoustics are going
to be different.

432
00:22:30,500 –> 00:22:34,100
She’s had vocal training since
her first album.

433
00:22:34,400 –> 00:22:37,700
So where people here?
Oh she can’t even sing that

434
00:22:37,700 –> 00:22:38,800
song.
The way she used to.

435
00:22:39,100 –> 00:22:42,200
It’s because it would wreck her
voice to do that.

436
00:22:42,300 –> 00:22:47,700
She has had training and is a
better singer now, she was not

437
00:22:47,700 –> 00:22:52,600
killed and replaced by a body
double Avril Lavigne especially

438
00:22:52,600 –> 00:22:56,000
like, what is Canada going to go
crazy if he, okay, so that’s the

439
00:22:56,000 –> 00:22:58,000
thing, the thing, okay?
Because first of all, I didn’t

440
00:22:58,000 –> 00:23:00,300
listen to the vocal.
I just listened to an interview

441
00:23:00,300 –> 00:23:01,900
of Talking.
And I’m like, oh yeah, it’s

442
00:23:01,900 –> 00:23:04,700
totally different person.
It’s 100% a different person.

443
00:23:05,200 –> 00:23:10,400
Like, my voice has been this
octave most of the time, right?

444
00:23:10,400 –> 00:23:13,200
Like, well, I actually smoked
for a long time and I honestly

445
00:23:13,200 –> 00:23:15,400
thought it would go back to
being as Mickey Mouse as it was

446
00:23:15,400 –> 00:23:17,600
before I started smoking.
And no, this is just what I

447
00:23:17,600 –> 00:23:20,200
sound like now, but like they
like not bocalee.

448
00:23:20,200 –> 00:23:22,200
I just looked at two different
interviews and I was like, yeah,

449
00:23:22,200 –> 00:23:24,500
I could see how that’s too but
that’s the other.

450
00:23:24,500 –> 00:23:26,700
That’s the point of a all, like,
first of all, they say she

451
00:23:26,700 –> 00:23:31,800
killed herself and it was like
she was like a teen Pop Idol or

452
00:23:31,800 –> 00:23:35,800
whatever and they didn’t want to
like glorify suicide 12.

453
00:23:36,200 –> 00:23:37,900
Yeah, I don’t think anybody
would care that much.

454
00:23:38,000 –> 00:23:41,600
So now that one I mean, I
wouldn’t I be like, okay, they

455
00:23:41,600 –> 00:23:44,800
say Katy Perry is JonBenet
Ramsey, but that gets debunked

456
00:23:44,800 –> 00:23:47,200
very quickly when you look at
the years.

457
00:23:47,300 –> 00:23:49,700
I don’t.
Yeah, I don’t think Katy Perry

458
00:23:49,700 –> 00:23:53,800
is JonBenet Ramsey.
I don’t tend to believe, really,

459
00:23:53,800 –> 00:23:57,400
any of the replacement
conspiracy theories.

460
00:23:57,400 –> 00:24:00,300
Like, there’s an Andrew w.k.
one.

461
00:24:00,500 –> 00:24:02,900
It’s like why the fuck would
Andrew w.k.?

462
00:24:02,900 –> 00:24:05,600
Get replaced by an imposter?
Even know who that is?

463
00:24:05,700 –> 00:24:07,000
See.
Exactly.

464
00:24:07,200 –> 00:24:08,800
That would be like someone
replacing.

465
00:24:08,800 –> 00:24:10,500
It makes sense.
That would be like someone

466
00:24:10,500 –> 00:24:14,200
replacing me with an impostor.
It’s like I said about, yeah,

467
00:24:14,200 –> 00:24:16,700
who the fuck cares?
Like, why would you even do it?

468
00:24:16,700 –> 00:24:20,600
Like, and with Paul McCartney,
here’s the thing about the

469
00:24:20,800 –> 00:24:24,700
Beatles, I don’t buy the mass
hysteria argument.

470
00:24:24,800 –> 00:24:29,400
I don’t think the British
government would go to these

471
00:24:29,400 –> 00:24:33,500
lengths.
To cover up the death of a pop

472
00:24:33,500 –> 00:24:35,300
star.
Like, I’m pretty sure the

473
00:24:35,300 –> 00:24:37,600
British government killed
Princess Diana.

474
00:24:37,900 –> 00:24:40,500
And boy was there.
Some uproar when that happened

475
00:24:40,800 –> 00:24:43,700
and they didn’t have any fucking
problem, unleashing that sadness

476
00:24:44,100 –> 00:24:47,600
on the country.
So I don’t think it from time

477
00:24:47,600 –> 00:24:51,600
though, different jet different,
different age group.

478
00:24:51,700 –> 00:24:53,600
You know what I mean?
Like are different, like people

479
00:24:53,600 –> 00:24:59,900
in power, sure, 20 years apart,
but also like people die, like

480
00:24:59,900 –> 00:25:01,800
people die.
All the time in the thing about

481
00:25:01,800 –> 00:25:04,300
the Beatles, is there The
Beatles.

482
00:25:04,400 –> 00:25:08,000
Like, they didn’t really need
another Paul McCartney.

483
00:25:08,000 –> 00:25:11,500
They had a John Lennon and a
George Harrison in the group.

484
00:25:11,700 –> 00:25:13,800
All right?
Courtney was one of the main

485
00:25:13,800 –> 00:25:17,200
ones like, he was there.
They have the Beatles are three

486
00:25:17,200 –> 00:25:19,100
people.
The Beatles are John Lennon,

487
00:25:19,100 –> 00:25:21,100
George Harrison and Paul
McCartney.

488
00:25:21,100 –> 00:25:25,200
Like they are the three primary
singer-songwriters hard Ringo.

489
00:25:25,400 –> 00:25:26,900
Yeah.
But I mean, Ringo’s highly

490
00:25:26,900 –> 00:25:29,700
underrated and also there’s a
reason he had to join the

491
00:25:29,700 –> 00:25:32,500
Beatles for The Beatles to get a
record deal, why?

492
00:25:32,500 –> 00:25:34,900
Because the drummer they had
wasn’t good enough and they

493
00:25:34,900 –> 00:25:37,400
said, yes, yeah.
They said you have to replace

494
00:25:37,400 –> 00:25:40,800
your drummer and they really
wants to eat best once a week.

495
00:25:41,000 –> 00:25:42,600
Yeah.
And they replaced him with Ringo

496
00:25:42,600 –> 00:25:44,400
Starr because he’s a good
drummer.

497
00:25:44,600 –> 00:25:46,600
What happened to Pete?
Best is dead, right?

498
00:25:47,100 –> 00:25:49,600
Oh I’m sure I think about him
once a week.

499
00:25:49,800 –> 00:25:52,800
Like can you just imagine?
Yeah I mean I bet he had a

500
00:25:52,808 –> 00:25:54,900
decent.
I mean you could build a career

501
00:25:55,000 –> 00:25:56,900
out of that.
You could go hit the club

502
00:25:56,900 –> 00:25:58,400
circuit.
No problem.

503
00:25:58,500 –> 00:26:00,300
Sure he did fine.
I hope you die.

504
00:26:00,700 –> 00:26:03,300
I don’t know, but I mean, we all
die but I think he I think he

505
00:26:03,308 –> 00:26:05,900
lives a while or maybe he died
really quick.

506
00:26:05,900 –> 00:26:09,200
I don’t know, in which case they
made the right choice because he

507
00:26:09,200 –> 00:26:10,600
was just going to die like an
idiot.

508
00:26:10,600 –> 00:26:13,000
Anyway just like Paul McCartney
and they would have had to

509
00:26:13,000 –> 00:26:18,000
replace Jeff best Pete.
Now the Ringo’s Ringo Starr was

510
00:26:18,000 –> 00:26:20,500
a star, right?
Like he was like the favorite

511
00:26:20,500 –> 00:26:23,400
Beatle like the heartthrob.
He was the one that everyone was

512
00:26:23,400 –> 00:26:27,500
attracted to sexually.
I still maintain like not

513
00:26:27,500 –> 00:26:31,400
musically but Ringo’s my
favorite beetle in terms of

514
00:26:31,400 –> 00:26:33,600
one’s, the ones I’d want to hang
out with.

515
00:26:33,600 –> 00:26:38,000
I think Ringo is the only one I
would want to hang out with.

516
00:26:38,200 –> 00:26:41,000
I know George Harrison seems
nice but if you watch that

517
00:26:41,000 –> 00:26:44,700
documentary about the making of
the, Let It Be album.

518
00:26:44,800 –> 00:26:50,500
Everyone always talks about like
Yoko Ono being the annoying

519
00:26:50,800 –> 00:26:55,900
presence in those last few days.
I think everyone but Yoko and

520
00:26:55,900 –> 00:27:00,100
Ringo were being annoying.
Yoko was pretty chill.

521
00:27:00,400 –> 00:27:02,600
No, just wanted to do his job,
John.

522
00:27:02,600 –> 00:27:05,200
Lennon would not stop hanging on
Yoko.

523
00:27:05,300 –> 00:27:08,400
Paul McCartney, brought fucking
kids to the studio like a real,

524
00:27:08,400 –> 00:27:11,700
and he’s even you even I did
that for your benefit and for

525
00:27:11,700 –> 00:27:14,800
the benefit of mr.
Kite, and George Harrison

526
00:27:14,800 –> 00:27:18,000
brought like a bunch of fucking
Hari krishna’s and just had him

527
00:27:18,000 –> 00:27:20,000
sit in the corner and stare at
people.

528
00:27:20,800 –> 00:27:22,900
Like I don’t want any fucking
part of that.

529
00:27:23,000 –> 00:27:27,600
Either give me that Ringo and
Yoko energy all day.

530
00:27:27,900 –> 00:27:31,400
Well, do you think to by that
point they were Like not like we

531
00:27:31,400 –> 00:27:32,800
know stars now.
Right.

532
00:27:32,800 –> 00:27:36,600
Like we know like famous people
now but those guys at that

533
00:27:36,600 –> 00:27:39,800
point, that’s like that was
unheard of, they were almost

534
00:27:39,800 –> 00:27:42,900
like gods and that gets to a
human’s brain, you know?

535
00:27:42,900 –> 00:27:44,500
So of course, they’re doing
weird shit.

536
00:27:44,500 –> 00:27:47,300
Like bringing a group of Hari
krishna’s and watching the whole

537
00:27:47,300 –> 00:27:49,500
thing, of course.
I mean, but don’t you, John

538
00:27:49,500 –> 00:27:52,700
Lennon speak sounds.
I mean, I think he’s a genius

539
00:27:52,700 –> 00:27:55,400
and I love Mo all of his music,
right?

540
00:27:55,500 –> 00:27:59,000
But he sounded almost
insufferable to listen to, you

541
00:27:59,000 –> 00:28:01,500
know, like when he’s like, yeah.
He was insufferable when he

542
00:28:01,500 –> 00:28:06,000
talked, oh man.
But do you honestly think if

543
00:28:06,000 –> 00:28:10,000
that was a fake Paul McCartney,
he would have that much Swagger

544
00:28:10,200 –> 00:28:14,400
within the group.
Like do you think a band that

545
00:28:14,400 –> 00:28:18,400
had been together since they
were kids would let a fake Paul

546
00:28:18,400 –> 00:28:22,100
McCartney come in and
essentially run the band because

547
00:28:22,200 –> 00:28:26,400
at that point in history, Paul
McCartney does kind of after

548
00:28:26,400 –> 00:28:29,700
Brian Epstein.
I think Brian Epstein died back

549
00:28:29,700 –> 00:28:32,100
in the STS.
But after they lose their

550
00:28:32,100 –> 00:28:35,600
manager, Paul McCartney does
step in for a while and kind of

551
00:28:35,600 –> 00:28:38,900
assumed the managerial role
within the band.

552
00:28:39,100 –> 00:28:41,000
Why would they let an imposter
do that?

553
00:28:41,100 –> 00:28:44,600
Okay, two things but that one
one of the conspiracies that was

554
00:28:44,600 –> 00:28:46,900
Brian Epstein.
That actually orchestrated this

555
00:28:46,900 –> 00:28:49,300
whole thing and was like we
can’t were only going to do a

556
00:28:49,300 –> 00:28:53,900
placeholder for a few days just
to figure out what to do to one

557
00:28:53,900 –> 00:28:56,800
of the things is John at when
they were talking about

558
00:28:56,800 –> 00:29:00,700
replacing him, John was like I
have enough sauce Sounds and

559
00:29:00,700 –> 00:29:03,600
music, that Paul and I wrote
together that we haven’t

560
00:29:03,600 –> 00:29:08,100
presented to the group that I
can keep the John Paul writing

561
00:29:08,100 –> 00:29:10,900
thing going on, albums for at
least 50 more songs.

562
00:29:11,100 –> 00:29:14,500
Like, I have enough material
that I can keep this going to,

563
00:29:14,700 –> 00:29:16,800
you only know what we saw,
right?

564
00:29:16,800 –> 00:29:20,400
So, it’s like, oh, Paul was sort
of the lead guy before he died,

565
00:29:20,400 –> 00:29:22,600
like him, and John were the lead
people before he died.

566
00:29:22,600 –> 00:29:26,400
So, in order to keep the thing
up, they’d have to show at least

567
00:29:26,400 –> 00:29:29,400
to the world.
That but John was in charge.

568
00:29:29,600 –> 00:29:32,300
I think John Was in charge of
the whole thing, okay?

569
00:29:32,700 –> 00:29:33,700
But how do you see the Wall
Street?

570
00:29:33,700 –> 00:29:37,000
Begs history, begs to differ,
like Paul McCartney did take on

571
00:29:37,000 –> 00:29:40,800
a bunch of managerial duties
within the Beatles after he is

572
00:29:40,800 –> 00:29:44,600
alleged to have died and I don’t
think the Beatles would have

573
00:29:44,600 –> 00:29:47,100
gone for that.
Like but I don’t it could have

574
00:29:47,100 –> 00:29:48,900
just been for.
Show is what I’m saying.

575
00:29:49,100 –> 00:29:51,300
Like Okay.
So, who was their manager then?

576
00:29:51,400 –> 00:29:53,300
I don’t know.
It was John Lennon, but they

577
00:29:53,300 –> 00:29:55,600
were having Paul McCartney
pretend to do it.

578
00:29:55,600 –> 00:29:58,800
He was the manager.
Maybe he’s hapten as Brian

579
00:29:58,800 –> 00:30:00,800
Epstein died.
They didn’t have a Major for a

580
00:30:00,808 –> 00:30:03,100
while.
So you get this mad every time

581
00:30:03,200 –> 00:30:07,600
someone had to step in and
assume that role.

582
00:30:07,700 –> 00:30:11,500
And for a long time, Paul
McCartney was that person in the

583
00:30:11,500 –> 00:30:16,400
Beatles who assumed that role?
And there’s also you mention

584
00:30:16,500 –> 00:30:19,700
John Lennon saying, well, I have
enough songs, huh?

585
00:30:19,900 –> 00:30:23,600
John Lennon and Paul McCartney
had very, very, very, very

586
00:30:23,600 –> 00:30:28,100
different writing styles.
Yeah but he had enough of his

587
00:30:28,100 –> 00:30:29,800
like they wrote enough songs.
Okay?

588
00:30:29,800 –> 00:30:31,700
I’ve enough Material.
I just Googled it.

589
00:30:31,700 –> 00:30:35,300
Hold on till now.
So now the conspiracy isn’t that

590
00:30:35,300 –> 00:30:39,700
they happen to find a perfect
look alike with the same musical

591
00:30:39,700 –> 00:30:43,800
chops as Paul McCartney.
Now it’s they just needed the

592
00:30:43,800 –> 00:30:46,700
look-alike and John Lennon wrote
the music.

593
00:30:46,800 –> 00:30:50,100
I’m sure Billy shears helped he
was a musician, he’s a

594
00:30:50,100 –> 00:30:52,000
right-handed guitar player,
okay.

595
00:30:52,100 –> 00:30:53,600
Have you ever learned to play
guitar?

596
00:30:53,700 –> 00:30:58,400
No, you cannot switch from
playing right hand guitar to

597
00:30:58,400 –> 00:31:02,400
left hand guitar in.
The amount of time it would have

598
00:31:02,400 –> 00:31:05,800
been necessary for Billy shears
to do that.

599
00:31:05,900 –> 00:31:09,100
Well, they weren’t playing live
so it’s not they.

600
00:31:09,100 –> 00:31:12,800
When they were doing it, they
played live on the rooftop

601
00:31:12,800 –> 00:31:15,900
during the, Let It Be sessions.
Who was playing what year was

602
00:31:15,900 –> 00:31:18,000
that?
It was 1969.

603
00:31:18,400 –> 00:31:20,200
Oh no.
I mean, you are right.

604
00:31:20,200 –> 00:31:23,500
That they stopped touring but oh
no but also real quick.

605
00:31:23,500 –> 00:31:26,000
Your manager question, the
manager.

606
00:31:26,000 –> 00:31:28,600
Allen Klein.
Took over the Beatles business

607
00:31:28,600 –> 00:31:31,200
Affairs in 1969.
Following the death of Brian

608
00:31:31,200 –> 00:31:31,700
Epstein.
Yeah.

609
00:31:31,708 –> 00:31:35,300
It’s one of the things that
broke the Beatles up because

610
00:31:35,300 –> 00:31:38,900
Brian Epstein died.
Paul McCartney starts assuming

611
00:31:38,900 –> 00:31:43,400
kind of a managerial role and
then John Lennon brings in that

612
00:31:43,400 –> 00:31:47,700
guy, who was the Rolling Stones
manager, and that is actually

613
00:31:47,700 –> 00:31:51,800
kind of the last nail in the
coffin for the Beatles.

614
00:31:51,800 –> 00:31:57,600
So it was them disagreeing on
business decisions and I still

615
00:31:57,600 –> 00:32:00,000
just don’t think they would have
let an imposter have.

616
00:32:00,200 –> 00:32:04,000
Much weight in those business
decisions.

617
00:32:04,200 –> 00:32:08,300
I also, if this involved, the
government, I still see no, no

618
00:32:08,308 –> 00:32:13,100
world where they would let the
Beatles, put all of these hints

619
00:32:13,100 –> 00:32:17,000
about this plot out to the
public, but they aren’t that

620
00:32:17,000 –> 00:32:19,200
obvious.
They also said and I documentary

621
00:32:19,200 –> 00:32:22,700
that the guy Maxwell called and
was like you guys have to stop

622
00:32:22,700 –> 00:32:25,400
doing this and then that’s when
The White Album came out where

623
00:32:25,400 –> 00:32:28,500
it was just the White Album.
But inside there were some

624
00:32:28,500 –> 00:32:30,900
Clues.
Also the theory is Is John was

625
00:32:30,900 –> 00:32:33,500
going crazy and that’s why he
was doing that and they were

626
00:32:33,500 –> 00:32:34,900
hoping they were going to get
away with it.

627
00:32:34,900 –> 00:32:38,100
George was like, this is scary.
That’s why he made those tapes

628
00:32:38,100 –> 00:32:41,100
that they tried to their.
I think it was a documentary,

629
00:32:41,100 –> 00:32:43,300
not a mockumentary because they
were like look we tried to

630
00:32:43,300 –> 00:32:46,300
authenticate these like but it’s
not really George Harrison on

631
00:32:46,300 –> 00:32:49,300
the tapes.
No, but I think that’s for movie

632
00:32:49,300 –> 00:32:52,000
purposes, right?
So you think someone heard the

633
00:32:52,000 –> 00:32:55,800
tapes and then rerecord it them
in their best George Harrison

634
00:32:55,800 –> 00:32:57,000
voice?
Yes.

635
00:32:57,100 –> 00:32:59,900
Why but not.
But for like the movie, why

636
00:32:59,900 –> 00:33:02,800
wouldn’t you Play the tapes in
the movie, I don’t know.

637
00:33:03,300 –> 00:33:05,100
I want you to know that.
I understand that there are a

638
00:33:05,100 –> 00:33:08,200
lot of holes in this.
There’s I have always felt there

639
00:33:08,200 –> 00:33:10,800
were a lot of holes in the Paul
is dead Theory.

640
00:33:11,200 –> 00:33:13,700
I just didn’t Howard.
I just don’t know where it would

641
00:33:13,700 –> 00:33:15,400
come from.
That’s the only thing that I’m

642
00:33:15,400 –> 00:33:19,100
like, like, how could this, this
type of rumor gets so much

643
00:33:19,100 –> 00:33:20,900
traction.
There’s a bag, then there’s no

644
00:33:20,900 –> 00:33:22,100
internet.
You know what I mean?

645
00:33:22,100 –> 00:33:23,900
There’s no internet.
The only thing we really have is

646
00:33:23,900 –> 00:33:27,200
like, magazines and newspapers
and like, I just don’t

647
00:33:27,200 –> 00:33:30,100
understand where this could have
with some college kid.

648
00:33:30,200 –> 00:33:35,100
He’s just like, oh, I think, I
mean, it started as a rumor but

649
00:33:35,100 –> 00:33:38,300
like rumors.
Paul McCartney was involved in a

650
00:33:38,300 –> 00:33:43,200
car accident in 1966.
I November 9th, I don’t think it

651
00:33:43,200 –> 00:33:47,000
was on November 9th, but he was
involved in a perfectly.

652
00:33:47,000 –> 00:33:50,100
Well, publicized car accident
and sustained some minor

653
00:33:50,100 –> 00:33:52,400
injuries.
The same thing happened with Bob

654
00:33:52,400 –> 00:33:58,000
Dylan Bob Dylan had a mysterious
motorcycle crash that like no

655
00:33:58,000 –> 00:34:00,900
one talked about like they What
happened?

656
00:34:00,900 –> 00:34:04,200
But there were no details, two
things, sorry to interrupt.

657
00:34:04,200 –> 00:34:08,199
Okay, one the rumor about Bob
Dylan is that that wasn’t a real

658
00:34:08,199 –> 00:34:09,800
car wreck.
It was just a way to get him

659
00:34:09,800 –> 00:34:11,400
into rehab.
Yeah.

660
00:34:11,800 –> 00:34:13,699
It could be.
And then and then the second

661
00:34:13,699 –> 00:34:17,600
one, what if they did that car?
What if they, well, publicized

662
00:34:17,600 –> 00:34:20,600
as big car wreck so they could
explain some of the scars on

663
00:34:20,600 –> 00:34:23,400
Paul McCartney.
What, if he just got scars in a

664
00:34:23,400 –> 00:34:25,500
car accident?
Well, no, he’s decapitated in

665
00:34:25,500 –> 00:34:27,600
that car accident.
There’s also rumors that he blew

666
00:34:27,600 –> 00:34:30,100
his own head off in that, that
act like he actually are able.

667
00:34:30,199 –> 00:34:33,699
It was mine own self in a car,
he didn’t notice that the light

668
00:34:33,699 –> 00:34:36,000
had changed.
That’s a line from A Day in the

669
00:34:36,000 –> 00:34:37,400
Life by.
No, I know.

670
00:34:37,400 –> 00:34:39,800
I just didn’t expect you to know
so much.

671
00:34:40,000 –> 00:34:42,199
I thought I was just going to
explain it all and then you’re

672
00:34:42,199 –> 00:34:45,199
gonna be like cool but you’re
like, no, I guess I didn’t know

673
00:34:45,199 –> 00:34:47,600
that.
You’d, I know a lot about the

674
00:34:47,600 –> 00:34:49,500
Beatles.
I’m a big Beatles fan.

675
00:34:49,500 –> 00:34:52,900
I rent when the Beatles put out
that Anthology Book, like the

676
00:34:52,900 –> 00:34:56,699
huge coffee table, size one, I
read that shit in three days.

677
00:34:56,900 –> 00:35:01,200
I like the Beatles a lot, and I
know a lot about Them and I’ve

678
00:35:01,200 –> 00:35:03,000
seen all of these clues in
there.

679
00:35:03,000 –> 00:35:06,700
All things.
It reminds me of that conspiracy

680
00:35:06,700 –> 00:35:09,800
where people are like, oh
Stanley Kubrick hides a bunch of

681
00:35:09,800 –> 00:35:11,900
Illuminati symbols in his
movies.

682
00:35:12,100 –> 00:35:13,000
Sure.
God.

683
00:35:13,200 –> 00:35:16,800
He hides for one thing.
He doesn’t hide any of that

684
00:35:16,800 –> 00:35:18,900
shit.
They’re just there and they are

685
00:35:18,900 –> 00:35:25,400
a cult symbols and a cult.
Symbology is prevalent in art

686
00:35:25,400 –> 00:35:30,100
all throughout history.
It doesn’t mean Stanley Kubrick.

687
00:35:30,200 –> 00:35:34,000
Is shouting out the Illuminati
and the Genesis of that

688
00:35:34,000 –> 00:35:38,200
conspiracy theory is a comedy
article that popped up on the

689
00:35:38,200 –> 00:35:43,300
internet in 1995.
I think and every example of

690
00:35:43,300 –> 00:35:47,000
that conspiracy sense, leaves,
that part out, no one ever

691
00:35:47,000 –> 00:35:49,300
mentions.
Oh well, the first person to

692
00:35:49,300 –> 00:35:53,300
bring this up, was joking like
that part always gets left out

693
00:35:53,400 –> 00:35:57,500
and that’s kind of the case with
the Beatles to like not so much

694
00:35:57,500 –> 00:36:01,100
with the sergeant pepper stuff.
But all of the Abbey, Road stuff

695
00:36:01,200 –> 00:36:04,900
because then you say well
Maxwell called them and said,

696
00:36:04,900 –> 00:36:07,000
hey I’m going to drop my silver
hammer on you.

697
00:36:07,000 –> 00:36:10,800
If you don’t stop putting these
Clues on your album covers well

698
00:36:10,800 –> 00:36:14,200
then explain Abbey Road that
comes out after the White Album

699
00:36:14,200 –> 00:36:17,400
and that’s got a ton of alleged
Clues.

700
00:36:18,000 –> 00:36:24,900
Well they did this they the baby
the baby and meet album.

701
00:36:24,900 –> 00:36:26,100
You know where they have the
doll head?

702
00:36:26,100 –> 00:36:27,700
Yeah, the butcher cover.
Yeah, yeah yeah.

703
00:36:27,700 –> 00:36:30,100
Well that’s not like they that
was the original cover.

704
00:36:30,200 –> 00:36:33,900
And now the one to the public is
Paul and a box, that’s when they

705
00:36:33,900 –> 00:36:35,900
said Maxwell called and says,
what are you doing?

706
00:36:35,900 –> 00:36:38,300
You can’t do this anymore.
And John was like, okay, well do

707
00:36:38,300 –> 00:36:40,500
this.
Well, I I do, I know the

708
00:36:40,500 –> 00:36:43,900
Beatles, got a phone call over
that butcher cover, but I think

709
00:36:43,900 –> 00:36:47,200
that’s, you know, I think it was
a, my, it’s MI6, not MI5.

710
00:36:47,300 –> 00:36:48,600
It might have been a
mockumentary.

711
00:36:48,700 –> 00:36:52,000
They called it at MI5.
There’s a my there’s MI5 and MI6

712
00:36:52,100 –> 00:36:53,900
our bow.
Okay, they called it MI5,

713
00:36:53,900 –> 00:36:56,500
British intelligence agencies.
Yeah, I don’t know the exact

714
00:36:56,500 –> 00:36:59,400
difference, but the thing about
the butcher cover, think about

715
00:36:59,400 –> 00:37:01,800
the Beatles.
Graphic at that time.

716
00:37:01,800 –> 00:37:04,800
It’s like teen girls.
Like they’re the first like

717
00:37:04,800 –> 00:37:09,500
legitimate boy baby and I think
the reason they were forced to

718
00:37:09,500 –> 00:37:13,500
change that cover is because
that is a shocking look to put

719
00:37:13,500 –> 00:37:17,700
out to a bunch of teenage girls.
You sitting around with meat

720
00:37:17,700 –> 00:37:22,200
Cleavers and bloody doll Parts,
like, I think that’s why it was

721
00:37:22,300 –> 00:37:24,400
changed.
Also, didn’t that album come out

722
00:37:24,400 –> 00:37:27,500
before 1966?
What’s it called?

723
00:37:27,700 –> 00:37:29,800
I would say I’m caught.
I think that’s yesterday and

724
00:37:29,800 –> 00:37:32,400
today.
Say, but I’m not know, some

725
00:37:32,500 –> 00:37:40,800
baby, baby Parts Beetle album.
This is how I Google everything

726
00:37:40,800 –> 00:37:44,100
Beatles butcher cover.
It is yesterday and yesterday

727
00:37:44,100 –> 00:37:49,500
and today and it came out in
June 1966, that blows up the

728
00:37:49,500 –> 00:37:52,300
theory a little bit, huh.
Oh my God.

729
00:37:52,500 –> 00:37:55,000
Okay.
Just make a documentary, and not

730
00:37:55,000 –> 00:37:58,600
have any facts in there.
I spent four dollars running

731
00:37:58,600 –> 00:38:01,300
this thing /, I bought it, I
just I decided to buy it because

732
00:38:01,300 –> 00:38:04,700
I was like, oh, watch it
multiple times obviously.

733
00:38:04,800 –> 00:38:06,000
Yeah, I was like, well, I’m
renting.

734
00:38:06,000 –> 00:38:08,500
It is two dollars and buying it
as 5 by.

735
00:38:08,500 –> 00:38:10,800
Why don’t I just buy it?
Because I can’t afford, not to

736
00:38:10,800 –> 00:38:13,600
buy it, you have to buy it,
right?

737
00:38:13,800 –> 00:38:16,100
All right, what about this?
Okay, this is another thing I

738
00:38:16,100 –> 00:38:21,200
had in 1960 68, an unknown
artist named Terry night, spent

739
00:38:21,200 –> 00:38:23,300
a lot of time with.
What would have been the

740
00:38:23,300 –> 00:38:26,200
replacement Paul?
When Paul McCartney wanted to

741
00:38:26,200 –> 00:38:30,000
sign Terry to their record
company Apple, which by the way

742
00:38:30,100 –> 00:38:33,900
way it was supposed to be
appalled it was appalled.

743
00:38:34,000 –> 00:38:37,400
They were doing like a thing
with Paul nevermind, I forgot

744
00:38:37,400 –> 00:38:42,900
what it was called, but never
mind album what, what go on.

745
00:38:44,000 –> 00:38:46,500
Okay.
So when Paul McCartney wanted to

746
00:38:46,500 –> 00:38:49,800
sign Terry to the record
company, Apple, he wrote a song

747
00:38:49,800 –> 00:38:52,700
called st.
Paul, which people said he was

748
00:38:52,700 –> 00:38:56,300
alluding to Paul being dead or
some think it was a reference to

749
00:38:56,300 –> 00:38:59,400
The Beatles being close to Jesus
because of what John had said

750
00:38:59,400 –> 00:39:01,300
earlier.
But Listen to the song and I

751
00:39:01,308 –> 00:39:04,000
thought it was more creepy.
Homage to Paul and said of

752
00:39:04,000 –> 00:39:06,200
evidence that Terry knew that it
was a fake Paul.

753
00:39:06,500 –> 00:39:09,000
I listen to it it was just more.
You know what song I’m talking

754
00:39:09,000 –> 00:39:09,800
about?
Yeah.

755
00:39:09,800 –> 00:39:13,600
And what I’ve always heard about
the song is that because again

756
00:39:13,600 –> 00:39:16,900
we talked about how at that
point in Beatles history there

757
00:39:16,900 –> 00:39:20,400
were a lot of business
differences more than creative

758
00:39:20,400 –> 00:39:23,700
differences like their music
like they were still fine when

759
00:39:23,700 –> 00:39:26,200
they were sitting around
recording songs the way they

760
00:39:26,200 –> 00:39:29,800
recorded songs which was also
very unique and not a thing.

761
00:39:29,800 –> 00:39:33,400
I think you could just slip in
imposter into but it’s fine but

762
00:39:33,400 –> 00:39:36,000
they had a lot of business
differences.

763
00:39:36,300 –> 00:39:39,200
And what I’ve always heard about
this song is that this guy was

764
00:39:39,200 –> 00:39:43,200
close enough to The Beatles at
the time that he saw a lot of

765
00:39:43,200 –> 00:39:46,800
those arguments and
disagreements and mostly sided

766
00:39:46,800 –> 00:39:49,400
with Paul McCartney.
And that’s what that song is

767
00:39:49,400 –> 00:39:52,700
about is him saying, hey, when
it comes to all this internal

768
00:39:52,700 –> 00:39:56,100
shit with the Beatles, Paul is
actually right as opposed to.

769
00:39:56,100 –> 00:40:00,600
Hey, Paul is dead and in heaven
right now because also So that

770
00:40:00,600 –> 00:40:05,200
guy, if again, if we’re talking
MI5, MI6, that guy gets murdered

771
00:40:05,200 –> 00:40:07,400
in the recording studio, like
that song.

772
00:40:07,500 –> 00:40:11,100
Immediately never come out if
that’s what that was about.

773
00:40:11,100 –> 00:40:14,200
Well, this okay, so that this
was this, okay, the song

774
00:40:14,200 –> 00:40:18,100
released in April, 69 months
after the rumor, the dead, the

775
00:40:18,100 –> 00:40:21,700
dead, Paul rumor started, the
publishing company took notice

776
00:40:21,700 –> 00:40:24,700
and re-released the single to
give credit to John and Paul.

777
00:40:24,700 –> 00:40:27,700
Because there were so many, Hey,
Jude references publish it, and

778
00:40:27,700 –> 00:40:29,200
it made sense publish it
correctly.

779
00:40:29,200 –> 00:40:32,000
And the royalties These are
handled properly, but also,

780
00:40:32,000 –> 00:40:35,500
there was a weird thing to that.
I read about the Roanoke, was in

781
00:40:35,500 –> 00:40:37,600
the documentary.
I just didn’t want to admit

782
00:40:37,600 –> 00:40:38,700
that.
I got that too.

783
00:40:38,700 –> 00:40:41,900
From the documentary.
It’s I’m starting to rethink, I

784
00:40:41,900 –> 00:40:43,800
can’t believe.
I spent five dollars on that.

785
00:40:43,800 –> 00:40:45,300
No regrets.
I’ll probably watch it a few

786
00:40:45,300 –> 00:40:47,700
more times.
So publish it correctly and then

787
00:40:47,700 –> 00:40:50,900
they can handle out the
royalties correctly, right?

788
00:40:51,400 –> 00:40:55,300
What people think is that the
fake Paul commissioned, Terry to

789
00:40:55,300 –> 00:40:57,900
write the song to tell people
the truth and when the song was

790
00:40:57,900 –> 00:41:00,000
a hit they just change up the
publishing.

791
00:41:00,400 –> 00:41:03,700
Stuff just to make the royalties
easier, the song isn’t proof but

792
00:41:03,700 –> 00:41:05,900
it’s definitely where most
people think the original

793
00:41:06,300 –> 00:41:08,400
Spirits.
He started the original

794
00:41:08,700 –> 00:41:11,300
conspiracy started in the
Detroit area and that is where

795
00:41:11,300 –> 00:41:16,400
Terry was from and Terry died in
2004 and never, gave a single

796
00:41:16,400 –> 00:41:18,700
interview on the subject.
That’s kind of weird.

797
00:41:18,900 –> 00:41:20,800
Wouldn’t he just be like, yeah,
that was Paul McCartney.

798
00:41:20,800 –> 00:41:22,800
Why are we?
So, why is no one just being

799
00:41:22,800 –> 00:41:24,700
like, why is Paul McCartney not
just going?

800
00:41:24,700 –> 00:41:27,400
Look, I’m Paul McCartney.
I know these rumors are still

801
00:41:27,400 –> 00:41:29,400
going on.
Marnie addressed it on Saturday

802
00:41:29,400 –> 00:41:31,700
Night Live.
I’ve what it but not, but not

803
00:41:31,700 –> 00:41:35,000
really he did, but it was like,
haha tongue-in-cheek, I’m really

804
00:41:35,000 –> 00:41:37,800
Paul McCartney.
I mean, how many times does Paul

805
00:41:37,800 –> 00:41:41,900
McCartney have to say, he’s Paul
McCartney, has he submitted a

806
00:41:41,908 –> 00:41:44,800
DNA test?
He doesn’t have to, oh no one

807
00:41:44,800 –> 00:41:47,000
has to do that unless it’s a
criminal thing.

808
00:41:47,000 –> 00:41:51,700
But I like if I was him I
wouldn’t I would why to get

809
00:41:51,700 –> 00:41:54,800
people to stop talking.
Like talk like, who cares?

810
00:41:55,000 –> 00:41:57,100
Yeah.
And there is one reason also,

811
00:41:57,100 –> 00:41:59,700
like if he submitted to a DNA
test, I would believe it.

812
00:41:59,900 –> 00:42:01,100
What?
If it came back and said he’s

813
00:42:01,100 –> 00:42:04,200
100% that bitch.
Well, I mean, I we both know

814
00:42:04,200 –> 00:42:07,000
that all of my thoughts on.
This aren’t grounded, incomplete

815
00:42:07,000 –> 00:42:10,100
facts.
I’d probably be bummed for a few

816
00:42:10,100 –> 00:42:12,900
days but then I would, I would
move on and be the same if I

817
00:42:12,908 –> 00:42:15,500
became out and it said, Paul
McCartney’s, not really Paul

818
00:42:15,500 –> 00:42:18,000
McCartney.
Also, Paul McCartney and I have

819
00:42:18,000 –> 00:42:21,000
the same birthday so that would
really bum me out if because I

820
00:42:21,008 –> 00:42:23,300
don’t have the same birthday as
Billy shears, I don’t know when

821
00:42:23,300 –> 00:42:26,800
that guy’s birthday is.
So who wrote All the wedding

822
00:42:26,800 –> 00:42:29,800
songs and all the bands that
Paul was in it?

823
00:42:29,800 –> 00:42:30,800
Some point.
Mmm.

824
00:42:31,200 –> 00:42:34,500
And all his some, all his solo
Records, who wrote probably him.

825
00:42:34,500 –> 00:42:37,000
I mean, this guy is a musician
when they found him.

826
00:42:37,000 –> 00:42:38,700
He’s a musician.
That’s the thing that they’re

827
00:42:38,700 –> 00:42:40,000
like.
Yeah, actually was a pretty good

828
00:42:40,000 –> 00:42:41,700
musician.
We the only thing that was weird

829
00:42:41,700 –> 00:42:45,000
is that he had the wrong and the
sound is different.

830
00:42:45,000 –> 00:42:49,300
And Paul sound is different from
when between the accidents, even

831
00:42:49,300 –> 00:42:50,900
though, yes, they announced
they’re going to make their

832
00:42:50,900 –> 00:42:53,400
sound different.
Paul was a growing young boy.

833
00:42:53,400 –> 00:42:56,100
Like yeah, off and on.
Underestimate that the Beatles

834
00:42:56,100 –> 00:42:58,300
were all like 14 when they broke
up.

835
00:42:58,300 –> 00:43:01,300
Like they’ve been they’ve been
making I’m exaggerating.

836
00:43:01,500 –> 00:43:04,700
Oh, I was like really but
they’ve been making music since

837
00:43:04,700 –> 00:43:08,100
they were like 14.
And the one thing I learned from

838
00:43:08,100 –> 00:43:10,900
this whole thing is that my
father was a die-hard Beatles

839
00:43:10,900 –> 00:43:16,800
fan and that means he was the
adult person that loved in sync

840
00:43:16,800 –> 00:43:19,800
in the 90s like he loved.
I mean, I know it’s a little

841
00:43:19,800 –> 00:43:22,600
different but it also is like,
God, dad, you made fun of me for

842
00:43:22,600 –> 00:43:26,000
liking crappy music.
I love Beetles, but if the

843
00:43:26,000 –> 00:43:28,800
Beetles are really the original
boy band and the way everyone

844
00:43:28,800 –> 00:43:31,400
made fun of the boy bands.
Now, right, we’re screaming

845
00:43:31,400 –> 00:43:33,600
girls.
Well, makes you look at your

846
00:43:33,600 –> 00:43:34,900
dad.
Different is all I’m saying.

847
00:43:34,900 –> 00:43:38,400
Yeah, people, they’re being a
little fast and loose with the

848
00:43:38,400 –> 00:43:40,400
rules though.
When they call the Beatles, a

849
00:43:40,400 –> 00:43:42,200
boy band.
And I know I just did it too,

850
00:43:42,300 –> 00:43:45,300
but I don’t know.
Like NSYNC wasn’t getting in a

851
00:43:45,308 –> 00:43:48,100
studio and sitting down and
Hammer and Out songs on

852
00:43:48,100 –> 00:43:51,300
instruments and shit.
Like there is a difference

853
00:43:51,300 –> 00:43:55,000
between the Beatles and like New
Kids on the Block new She

854
00:43:55,000 –> 00:43:58,900
obviously oh yeah like the
Beatles were actually talented

855
00:43:58,900 –> 00:44:03,700
musician and not just talented
singers and performers.

856
00:44:03,900 –> 00:44:06,600
They weren’t that amazing as
performers, that’s part of the

857
00:44:06,600 –> 00:44:09,400
reason they stopped touring.
I mean the reason they stopped

858
00:44:09,400 –> 00:44:11,900
touring is sink or the Beatles
The Beatles.

859
00:44:12,300 –> 00:44:14,200
Okay.
The reason the beetle stopped

860
00:44:14,200 –> 00:44:17,100
touring I don’t think it’s
because Paul McCartney died.

861
00:44:17,300 –> 00:44:20,600
It’s because the technology of
the time like the music

862
00:44:20,600 –> 00:44:23,500
equipment of the time couldn’t
really keep up with the

863
00:44:23,500 –> 00:44:26,100
audiences.
We’re pulling like they’re they

864
00:44:26,100 –> 00:44:29,400
were playing if you look at like
the Shea Stadium concert they’re

865
00:44:29,400 –> 00:44:34,400
playing with the kinds of amps
that you see a bar band use.

866
00:44:34,700 –> 00:44:37,000
Oh wow.
And meanwhile, they’re playing

867
00:44:37,000 –> 00:44:41,400
Shea Stadium with tens of
thousands of people screaming at

868
00:44:41,400 –> 00:44:44,100
the top of their lungs.
That’s why there’s not really

869
00:44:44,100 –> 00:44:48,000
any good beetles live albums
because all the beetles live

870
00:44:48,000 –> 00:44:49,900
stuff.
Sounds like, shit, because

871
00:44:50,200 –> 00:44:53,200
there’s just a billion fucking
people shrieking in the

872
00:44:53,200 –> 00:44:57,000
background while They’re playing
through the kind of equipment,

873
00:44:57,000 –> 00:45:00,300
you could put in your apartment
without getting into too much

874
00:45:00,300 –> 00:45:01,800
trouble for it.
Here’s the thing.

875
00:45:01,900 –> 00:45:05,100
One of the things people say
about conspiracy theories,

876
00:45:05,300 –> 00:45:08,900
especially the more outlandish
ones and why people believe in

877
00:45:08,900 –> 00:45:14,100
why they spread is people are
looking for an explanation to

878
00:45:14,100 –> 00:45:18,500
things that seem unexplainable.
Like what, how is it?

879
00:45:18,500 –> 00:45:21,100
There’s nothing in this.
That’s there’s not look at the

880
00:45:21,100 –> 00:45:25,900
Beatles pre Sergeant Pepper and
Sergeant Pepper.

881
00:45:26,000 –> 00:45:30,900
That is a jarring change even
though their music was heading

882
00:45:30,900 –> 00:45:35,800
in that direction Rubber Soul
and revolvers are way different

883
00:45:35,900 –> 00:45:39,600
than Please, Please Me.
And these albums where they were

884
00:45:39,600 –> 00:45:42,700
playing like R&B covers.
And I want to hold your hand and

885
00:45:42,700 –> 00:45:47,400
shit once they hit revolver and
Rubber Soul, their music starts

886
00:45:47,400 –> 00:45:50,100
getting weirder.
That’s when they start like

887
00:45:50,100 –> 00:45:53,800
fucking with the sitar, you
know, they’re like taking acid

888
00:45:53,800 –> 00:45:55,700
like that’s the thing.
The Beatles started taking

889
00:45:55,700 –> 00:45:57,600
drugs.
That’s why Sergeant Pepper looks

890
00:45:57,600 –> 00:45:59,600
the way it does.
It’s not because anyone died,

891
00:45:59,900 –> 00:46:04,200
but I think that change
alienated, a lot of people.

892
00:46:04,300 –> 00:46:07,700
It had to like, people who are
expecting them to show up in

893
00:46:07,700 –> 00:46:11,100
matching suits and go.
Who wants Sergeant here?

894
00:46:11,100 –> 00:46:12,900
Think that’s where it started
the rumor.

895
00:46:12,900 –> 00:46:15,000
Somebody made a rumor.
One of them must have died.

896
00:46:15,000 –> 00:46:17,900
That’s a wild.
That’s a wild thing to jump

897
00:46:17,900 –> 00:46:19,800
from.
Because really before I knew

898
00:46:19,800 –> 00:46:24,400
this, what it’s a why would why
would that be so wild that

899
00:46:24,400 –> 00:46:26,100
whatever?
Died and was replaced by an

900
00:46:26,100 –> 00:46:28,700
imposter.
That’s a crazy thing to make up.

901
00:46:29,300 –> 00:46:30,900
Why are you why are you yelling
at me?

902
00:46:30,900 –> 00:46:34,400
I didn’t make it up.
I’m not yelling, but someone

903
00:46:34,400 –> 00:46:37,300
made it up and I think that’s I
think that’s what it is.

904
00:46:37,300 –> 00:46:42,600
I think people were trying to
rationalize this metamorphosis.

905
00:46:42,600 –> 00:46:46,300
The Beatles went through at that
like you see when they were kids

906
00:46:46,400 –> 00:46:49,400
they were kids, they got a bunch
of Fame and then they were like

907
00:46:49,400 –> 00:46:53,400
cool kids to, you know.
So they were like, we were

908
00:46:53,400 –> 00:46:56,400
making all this money.
By being essentially boy but a

909
00:46:56,400 –> 00:46:59,300
boy band and we want to be real
artist.

910
00:46:59,300 –> 00:47:00,900
That’s what all artists go
through, right?

911
00:47:00,900 –> 00:47:03,500
They like get all their money
from the like fans and then they

912
00:47:03,500 –> 00:47:06,300
change fans don’t like change
Tres.

913
00:47:06,300 –> 00:47:09,300
Someone means hosted a podcast
since 2013.

914
00:47:09,400 –> 00:47:14,000
Let me tell you fans don’t
always like change and there is

915
00:47:14,000 –> 00:47:16,500
a change that you do that the
fans didn’t like.

916
00:47:16,600 –> 00:47:20,700
I mean I don’t know grew as a
person over the past 10 years

917
00:47:20,700 –> 00:47:24,600
like oh who knows but not like
the label or something.

918
00:47:24,800 –> 00:47:27,400
Logo, you can start talking in
an accent.

919
00:47:27,500 –> 00:47:32,400
There is a pretty famous video
of Beatles fans watching the

920
00:47:32,400 –> 00:47:36,800
video for strawberry fields for
the first time it’s like a live

921
00:47:36,900 –> 00:47:41,200
studio audience and everyone is
so fired up to watch it and then

922
00:47:41,200 –> 00:47:44,200
they see that crazy ass video
and it cuts back to that

923
00:47:44,200 –> 00:47:49,500
audience and they’re like, okay
I’ve seen that video that’s the

924
00:47:49,500 –> 00:47:53,000
be and they interview people in
some of them are like yeah man I

925
00:47:53,000 –> 00:47:57,000
think it’s pretty cool and And
there’s others who are like a

926
00:47:57,000 –> 00:47:59,000
cry.
Like, this is the worst thing

927
00:47:59,000 –> 00:48:02,100
I’ve ever seen the Beatles
changed, they change.

928
00:48:02,100 –> 00:48:04,600
Yeah.
And it makes porn into their

929
00:48:04,600 –> 00:48:09,100
music at the time as proof of a
death conspiracy, very easy

930
00:48:09,300 –> 00:48:12,700
because a lot of things in the
Beatles were changing and dying

931
00:48:12,700 –> 00:48:16,300
at the time, and that was coming
through in their work.

932
00:48:16,400 –> 00:48:19,800
I’ve dedicated a lot of time to
believing this also with stolley

933
00:48:19,800 –> 00:48:26,300
six hours tops but with stuff
like George Send pointing to

934
00:48:26,600 –> 00:48:31,900
Wednesdays and 5:00 at 5:00.
There’s a thing police do when

935
00:48:32,000 –> 00:48:34,900
they are interviewing someone
that they want to pin a murder

936
00:48:34,900 –> 00:48:36,600
on.
But don’t have enough evidence

937
00:48:36,700 –> 00:48:40,400
where they will feed that person
details, that they didn’t

938
00:48:40,400 –> 00:48:43,600
necessarily know with the hope
that eventually that person’s

939
00:48:43,600 –> 00:48:47,500
going to circle back around and
give them that detail for me to

940
00:48:47,500 –> 00:48:49,300
believe.
That’s George Harrison

941
00:48:49,300 –> 00:48:51,700
referencing.
Paul, McCartney’s death, I would

942
00:48:51,700 –> 00:48:56,700
need to see this rumor.
Discussed before that album came

943
00:48:56,700 –> 00:49:02,700
out because that album comes out
really, really soon after Paul

944
00:49:02,700 –> 00:49:07,500
McCartney died allegedly.
So, is that George Harrison

945
00:49:07,500 –> 00:49:11,400
pointing to Wednesday morning?
5 a.m. as when Paul McCartney

946
00:49:11,400 –> 00:49:14,300
died or are like, people months
after, right?

947
00:49:14,300 –> 00:49:17,000
So was this rumor discussed
before that.

948
00:49:17,100 –> 00:49:21,100
And did anyone before the
Sergeant Pepper album, ever say

949
00:49:21,500 –> 00:49:26,400
he died, Wednesday morning at
5:00 a.m. or Have people taken

950
00:49:26,600 –> 00:49:30,300
George Harrison pointing to
Wednesday morning at 5 a.m. on

951
00:49:30,300 –> 00:49:32,700
Sergeant Pepper?
As proof that that’s when Paul

952
00:49:32,700 –> 00:49:33,800
died.
I don’t know.

953
00:49:33,800 –> 00:49:36,500
Let me Google this you’re not
going to find an answer to that

954
00:49:36,500 –> 00:49:40,400
like its oh there’s a new video
thank God.

955
00:49:40,800 –> 00:49:44,200
I’m sure it blows everything
open his here’s the thing if you

956
00:49:44,400 –> 00:49:49,900
look into this rumor it didn’t
start getting discussed and it

957
00:49:49,900 –> 00:49:53,200
didn’t really start generating
steam until like 68.

958
00:49:53,300 –> 00:49:56,400
Like maybe late 60s 7.
But like the articles that come

959
00:49:56,400 –> 00:49:59,900
out about it in the radio
reports those are all like 68 69

960
00:50:00,000 –> 00:50:04,100
so by this point it’s just as
possible that the people

961
00:50:04,100 –> 00:50:07,900
spreading this fake story are
pulling the details of the story

962
00:50:08,100 –> 00:50:12,200
from the Sergeant Pepper album
cover as opposed to the Sergeant

963
00:50:12,200 –> 00:50:15,700
Pepper album cover being the
story because that’s really

964
00:50:15,700 –> 00:50:19,500
specific knowing that the day
that he got in the car wreck but

965
00:50:19,500 –> 00:50:21,800
then we also don’t know like
it’s not the way it is.

966
00:50:21,800 –> 00:50:25,200
Now like if someone got in a car
wreck now there’d be A million

967
00:50:25,200 –> 00:50:26,700
things.
We could Google, you know what I

968
00:50:26,700 –> 00:50:28,100
mean?
Like, Paul McCartney back.

969
00:50:28,100 –> 00:50:31,200
Then it’s like they’re probably
wasn’t even a news van there and

970
00:50:31,200 –> 00:50:35,400
they said, Rita died, and then,
Rita lost her leg changed her

971
00:50:35,400 –> 00:50:37,600
name.
And then, I believe became his

972
00:50:37,600 –> 00:50:41,000
wife.
So who’s who’s Linda Eastman

973
00:50:41,000 –> 00:50:42,900
supposed to be Rita?
I think so.

974
00:50:43,000 –> 00:50:44,400
Isn’t she the one who lost her
leg?

975
00:50:44,400 –> 00:50:46,100
And then they started doing
music together.

976
00:50:46,100 –> 00:50:49,300
Was that Jessica?
No, Heather Mills, Heather

977
00:50:49,300 –> 00:50:52,400
Mills.
Heather Mills was like in her

978
00:50:52,400 –> 00:50:54,300
thirties.
When she married, Paul McCartney

979
00:50:54,300 –> 00:50:56,900
how Old, was she when she got in
that car eight?

980
00:50:57,000 –> 00:50:59,400
I don’t know how when was that
when they got together?

981
00:50:59,500 –> 00:51:02,300
Heather, Heather Mills.
Like he married her in like the

982
00:51:02,700 –> 00:51:06,900
90s or maybe even the 2000’s.
He was married to Linda Eastman,

983
00:51:07,100 –> 00:51:10,600
not long after Linda, Eastman is
on the cover of the Life

984
00:51:10,600 –> 00:51:14,000
Magazine interview about the
death rumors.

985
00:51:14,400 –> 00:51:18,300
There’s a, there’s a magazine
article I found from The New

986
00:51:18,300 –> 00:51:22,700
York Times from like 1968
written by a guy who worked on a

987
00:51:22,707 –> 00:51:27,700
book with Linda Eastman Men and
it’s called no no no Paul is not

988
00:51:27,700 –> 00:51:32,800
dead what so yeah Heather look
Heather Mills is the article is

989
00:51:32,800 –> 00:51:34,500
called know Paul’s not dead.
Not the book.

990
00:51:34,600 –> 00:51:36,900
Yes. 40.
When they married in 2002,

991
00:51:37,000 –> 00:51:39,300
right?
And how old was he 109?

992
00:51:39,300 –> 00:51:43,700
Right 65 yeah.
So that’s how is he now?

993
00:51:43,700 –> 00:51:46,100
He just turned 80.
That’s probably not Rita.

994
00:51:46,300 –> 00:51:50,500
Then it okay I guess this
documentary laid heavily on the

995
00:51:50,500 –> 00:51:54,000
fact that some of us wouldn’t
look up some information and

996
00:51:54,000 –> 00:51:56,900
just take it.
It, that’s the thing, so many

997
00:51:56,900 –> 00:52:00,900
documentaries do that’s scary
for other stuff but it says,

998
00:52:00,900 –> 00:52:05,300
okay, here it says the rumors
started circulating in 1967 but

999
00:52:05,300 –> 00:52:08,800
it gained broad popularity in
1969, right?

1000
00:52:08,800 –> 00:52:12,100
Okay, real quick, the only
reason why I know this isn’t

1001
00:52:12,100 –> 00:52:15,600
hard facts but the only reason
why I believe that maybe I could

1002
00:52:15,600 –> 00:52:17,900
be wrong.
Paul McCartney, wrote a song for

1003
00:52:17,900 –> 00:52:21,600
John Lennon called here today
and he sings it live and it’s

1004
00:52:21,600 –> 00:52:23,800
one of the most hauntingly
beautiful songs I’ve ever heard

1005
00:52:23,800 –> 00:52:25,700
in my life.
And Don’t think Billy shears

1006
00:52:25,700 –> 00:52:28,300
could have written that about
some guy that he barely knew or

1007
00:52:28,300 –> 00:52:31,200
he knew enough.
But like yeah, also Paul

1008
00:52:31,200 –> 00:52:33,000
McCartney, also, wrote a song.
Have you ever heard?

1009
00:52:33,000 –> 00:52:36,500
Let me roll it.
No, John Lennon at the time.

1010
00:52:36,500 –> 00:52:38,600
Like in this, I think you would
also have to know.

1011
00:52:38,600 –> 00:52:41,700
John Lennon pretty fucking.
Well John Lennon, and Paul

1012
00:52:41,700 –> 00:52:45,100
McCartney at the time were
engaged in this public Feud

1013
00:52:45,100 –> 00:52:48,800
where John Lennon was like, oh
I’ll make the avant-garde music,

1014
00:52:48,800 –> 00:52:51,800
Baby, You’re making pop hits
impulsive partner.

1015
00:52:51,800 –> 00:52:54,500
They that he sounds like Austin
Powers everyone in it.

1016
00:52:54,600 –> 00:52:57,200
Well it sounds like Austin
Powers especially at that point

1017
00:52:57,200 –> 00:53:00,800
in history and Paul McCartney
was like bitch I can make the

1018
00:53:00,800 –> 00:53:03,800
music you make I’m just not a
fucking weirdo and so Paul

1019
00:53:03,800 –> 00:53:06,400
McCartney makes this song
called, Let Me Roll it.

1020
00:53:06,600 –> 00:53:11,600
That is essentially a John
Lennon song it in music and

1021
00:53:11,600 –> 00:53:14,600
lyrics in the way his fucking
voice sounds.

1022
00:53:14,700 –> 00:53:18,800
It is a John Lennon song but
it’s Paul McCartney doing it in

1023
00:53:18,800 –> 00:53:22,000
the whole point is motherfucker.
You’re not that special like I

1024
00:53:22,000 –> 00:53:24,500
just don’t make music the way
you do and you’re so

1025
00:53:24,700 –> 00:53:27,800
Self-righteous that you think
everyone should make music the

1026
00:53:27,808 –> 00:53:29,900
way you do.
It doesn’t make you special and

1027
00:53:29,908 –> 00:53:32,900
makes you an asshole.
And I don’t think an imposter

1028
00:53:33,000 –> 00:53:35,900
could have pulled a move like
that either.

1029
00:53:35,900 –> 00:53:38,000
Even at that point.
What year was that?

1030
00:53:38,400 –> 00:53:41,300
Let me roll it.
I think was 70 71 something like

1031
00:53:41,300 –> 00:53:43,400
that.
Six years later.

1032
00:53:43,500 –> 00:53:45,700
That’s I know a lot of people,
I’ve only known for a few years

1033
00:53:45,700 –> 00:53:47,400
that I know.
Well enough, and if you’re in

1034
00:53:47,400 –> 00:53:50,500
the studio, I don’t think that’s
a bunk fit your in the studio

1035
00:53:50,500 –> 00:53:52,300
and you spend that much time
with somebody who’s your in the

1036
00:53:52,300 –> 00:53:54,500
same band and your famous
together.

1037
00:53:55,200 –> 00:53:56,600
You get to know him pretty well.
Right?

1038
00:53:56,600 –> 00:53:58,800
Like how many people do you know
that you went on the road with

1039
00:53:59,000 –> 00:54:01,700
for like a month are you know
like you haven’t known them and

1040
00:54:01,700 –> 00:54:03,800
then you go on the road with him
for like a week you know him

1041
00:54:03,800 –> 00:54:06,500
pretty well afterwards, maybe
not enough to mimic their

1042
00:54:06,500 –> 00:54:09,800
comedy, but years is enough for
him to especially if he’s a

1043
00:54:09,808 –> 00:54:13,400
musician.
But also have you ever heard the

1044
00:54:13,400 –> 00:54:19,300
SNL story about John and Paul it
was Saturday Night Live.

1045
00:54:19,400 –> 00:54:23,600
Yes, there’s a very famous skit.
I think it was Lorne Michaels

1046
00:54:23,700 –> 00:54:27,800
but someone comes Out during the
opening monologue.

1047
00:54:28,000 –> 00:54:32,400
And basically offers the Beatles
like five hundred dollars to

1048
00:54:32,400 –> 00:54:35,500
reunite on SNL like he was
obviously joking.

1049
00:54:35,500 –> 00:54:37,500
Like, that’s not enough money.
Yeah.

1050
00:54:37,600 –> 00:54:40,300
And there was this funny thing
that happened a couple weeks

1051
00:54:40,300 –> 00:54:42,900
later, we’re just George
Harrison showed up.

1052
00:54:43,600 –> 00:54:47,000
It was like shit but for the
$500 that’s very funny.

1053
00:54:47,000 –> 00:54:49,400
Yeah.
But as coincidence would have it

1054
00:54:49,500 –> 00:54:51,900
John Lennon.
And Paul McCartney were in New

1055
00:54:51,900 –> 00:54:55,200
York hanging out together the
night that Happened and they

1056
00:54:55,200 –> 00:54:58,500
almost because Saturday Night
Live is live, and they almost

1057
00:54:58,500 –> 00:55:03,100
went down there in, did that.
Why would John Lennon and fake?

1058
00:55:03,100 –> 00:55:06,500
Paul McCartney, have a moment
like that.

1059
00:55:06,500 –> 00:55:10,300
What would be in it for John
Lennon to reunite with fake Paul

1060
00:55:10,300 –> 00:55:13,400
McCartney?
Just on some friendship stuff.

1061
00:55:13,500 –> 00:55:15,900
All those years later because
there’s when I say there’s like

1062
00:55:15,900 –> 00:55:19,100
a TV mini-series about it.
That’s what I mean, there’s a TV

1063
00:55:19,100 –> 00:55:22,900
movie about that night.
When John Lennon and Paul

1064
00:55:22,900 –> 00:55:24,400
McCartney were hanging out in
that sack.

1065
00:55:24,600 –> 00:55:28,100
The Nightlife thing happened, it
was on VH1 who played Paul

1066
00:55:28,100 –> 00:55:31,900
McCartney and John Lennon in the
Billy shears play.

1067
00:55:31,900 –> 00:55:35,500
Both I hate you like like Eddie
Murphy.

1068
00:55:35,800 –> 00:55:40,000
You just played cloth.
I mean, look like I yesterday

1069
00:55:40,000 –> 00:55:42,300
yesterday.
What am I?

1070
00:55:42,300 –> 00:55:44,700
What am I things?
As hilarious.

1071
00:55:47,200 –> 00:55:51,200
What am I one of the things that
I would not?

1072
00:55:51,200 –> 00:55:53,900
I don’t believe it is the John
and Paul.

1073
00:55:54,500 –> 00:55:56,100
Chip.
Like that’s the one thing that

1074
00:55:56,100 –> 00:55:57,900
keeps me from.
But everything else I’m like, I

1075
00:55:57,900 –> 00:55:59,900
don’t know man.
Crazier things have happened,

1076
00:55:59,900 –> 00:56:02,300
but the John and Paul
relationship or the one thing

1077
00:56:02,300 –> 00:56:04,200
that I’m like, that’s hard to
fake.

1078
00:56:04,200 –> 00:56:07,300
It’s very hard to fake.
And I don’t know that this is

1079
00:56:07,300 –> 00:56:10,000
the kind of thing.
Like, someone would have talked

1080
00:56:10,000 –> 00:56:14,400
like this would, this would have
to involve so many moving Parts,

1081
00:56:14,400 –> 00:56:17,400
because I really, I don’t be 10
people.

1082
00:56:18,100 –> 00:56:21,600
I don’t care how good of a
musician, you are.

1083
00:56:21,600 –> 00:56:24,500
I don’t care how much plastic
surgery you get.

1084
00:56:24,600 –> 00:56:28,000
It like a fake version of one of
my really good friends walked in

1085
00:56:28,000 –> 00:56:30,200
the room right now.
I’d be like, what the fuck’s

1086
00:56:30,200 –> 00:56:32,100
going on with you.
Like, why?

1087
00:56:32,300 –> 00:56:35,700
Like this is weird.
Like you seem like you but not

1088
00:56:35,700 –> 00:56:39,400
like you like it’s easy to say,
oh he was a good enough musician

1089
00:56:39,400 –> 00:56:43,300
that he could just fall into the
the band and he could write the

1090
00:56:43,300 –> 00:56:45,900
songs and he could learn to play
guitar with a different hand.

1091
00:56:45,900 –> 00:56:48,500
But they, that concerning
yourself.

1092
00:56:48,900 –> 00:56:51,100
What, who is he spending time
with at that time?

1093
00:56:51,100 –> 00:56:53,200
Those guys like, you’re that
famous.

1094
00:56:53,200 –> 00:56:56,300
You have four people around Do
you like you don’t go like you

1095
00:56:56,300 –> 00:56:59,500
don’t go to a party, huh?
Got a wife and kids you have

1096
00:56:59,500 –> 00:57:02,400
kids at that time.
He’s holding his kid on the

1097
00:57:02,400 –> 00:57:06,400
cover of the Life Magazine thing
or maybe, you know, Melinda

1098
00:57:06,400 –> 00:57:11,900
Eastman’s kids, I don’t know.
But then he also had like Paul

1099
00:57:11,900 –> 00:57:14,300
McCartney.
It wasn’t like I get that the

1100
00:57:14,300 –> 00:57:17,700
Beatles weren’t touring, but he
still had to do shit, like he

1101
00:57:17,700 –> 00:57:21,100
was still in March of 1969.
He had a kid, okay, his first

1102
00:57:21,100 –> 00:57:23,300
kid, okay?
That wouldn’t just made me not

1103
00:57:23,300 –> 00:57:25,400
believe any of it, if it kills.
And we’re involved.

1104
00:57:25,900 –> 00:57:29,200
But Paul McCartney still had to
do stuff like he was still a

1105
00:57:29,200 –> 00:57:32,400
person, he still had like the
Beatles had business things.

1106
00:57:32,400 –> 00:57:36,200
Going on the Beatles were
recording music this whole time.

1107
00:57:36,200 –> 00:57:40,200
Like it’s one thing to say yeah
they found an adequate musician

1108
00:57:40,400 –> 00:57:43,500
which also you don’t just need
an adequate musician to replace

1109
00:57:43,800 –> 00:57:48,000
Paul McCartney like you need
Paul McCartney to replace Paul

1110
00:57:48,000 –> 00:57:50,800
McCartney.
There is a reason the Beatles

1111
00:57:50,800 –> 00:57:54,300
are The Beatles in so many other
bands are who they are.

1112
00:57:54,500 –> 00:57:59,400
But it’s going to be way harder
to fit into that social scene

1113
00:57:59,400 –> 00:58:03,100
and do all the shit, The Beetles
start doing because there’s all

1114
00:58:03,100 –> 00:58:05,500
these videos of them like
fucking hanging out with Bob,

1115
00:58:05,500 –> 00:58:09,400
Dylan, and taking acid and
talking about drugs.

1116
00:58:09,800 –> 00:58:13,200
And these are all people who
knew Paul McCartney before and

1117
00:58:13,200 –> 00:58:17,200
not a single one was like, Hey,
you’re not Paul McCartney or the

1118
00:58:17,200 –> 00:58:21,900
government went to the entire
British pop scene at the time

1119
00:58:22,100 –> 00:58:24,100
and was like, don’t say shit,
you don’t say Shut.

1120
00:58:24,100 –> 00:58:28,900
Also We wouldn’t have somewhat
of not Jeff met showed up, but

1121
00:58:28,900 –> 00:58:31,300
look like Jeff may talk like
Jeff met.

1122
00:58:31,300 –> 00:58:33,400
You wouldn’t like Hammer him
thinking?

1123
00:58:33,400 –> 00:58:36,300
He was not Jeff mate you would
think is my friend.

1124
00:58:36,300 –> 00:58:39,400
Okay, what’s going on man?
I’d have questions either way

1125
00:58:39,400 –> 00:58:40,900
but you wouldn’t be like you’re
obviously not.

1126
00:58:40,900 –> 00:58:44,300
Jeff may, where’s the real?
No one thinks that way like no

1127
00:58:44,300 –> 00:58:46,500
one thinks you must be an
imposter.

1128
00:58:46,600 –> 00:58:49,800
That’s what makes me confused
where the I think you mean

1129
00:58:49,800 –> 00:58:52,800
impulse ter.
That was good, that was really

1130
00:58:52,800 –> 00:58:54,400
good things like to close.
All right.

1131
00:58:54,500 –> 00:58:55,700
Right?
Yeah, I don’t know.

1132
00:58:55,700 –> 00:58:59,200
I mean, maybe I’d get there
maybe at some point.

1133
00:58:59,200 –> 00:59:02,800
I mean, the way my head Works,
I’d think alien before like the

1134
00:59:02,800 –> 00:59:04,800
government replaced him.
I’d be like you was

1135
00:59:04,800 –> 00:59:07,500
shapeshifter, I can.
Would you really think that?

1136
00:59:07,600 –> 00:59:10,700
No, but I want to hire someone
that looks like me to hang out

1137
00:59:10,700 –> 00:59:13,700
with you and see if you.
I am willing to take up that

1138
00:59:13,700 –> 00:59:15,800
challenge, just for the you
hire.

1139
00:59:15,800 –> 00:59:17,900
Someone who looks like you part.
Yeah, I don’t know.

1140
00:59:17,908 –> 00:59:21,500
That’s the thing that yes, do
that show me how easy it is to

1141
00:59:21,500 –> 00:59:24,400
find someone who looks and
sounds exactly.

1142
00:59:24,600 –> 00:59:29,100
Really like you who could have
have fake Kim crawl host in

1143
00:59:29,100 –> 00:59:32,700
episode of your podcast sometime
and see if people notice, I

1144
00:59:32,700 –> 00:59:38,300
don’t like admitting that I
possibly could be wrong but but

1145
00:59:38,700 –> 00:59:42,200
I assume you didn’t know that
much and I was just gonna and,

1146
00:59:42,200 –> 00:59:44,700
you know, all of it.
I mean, I’ve looked into, I’ve

1147
00:59:44,700 –> 00:59:47,800
looked into this Theory, there’s
a reason we haven’t done an

1148
00:59:47,800 –> 00:59:50,200
episode about it because I just
don’t I don’t believe in.

1149
00:59:50,200 –> 00:59:53,500
Actually we’ve done episodes
about celebrities who people

1150
00:59:53,500 –> 00:59:57,300
claim were Laced by look-alikes,
and I’m sure whoever teased all

1151
00:59:57,300 –> 00:59:59,300
McCartney came up.
There’s Avril.

1152
00:59:59,300 –> 01:00:05,800
Lavigne, Andrew w.k., Eminem is
why I’m an m Eminem, in terms of

1153
01:00:05,800 –> 01:00:09,100
like physical features might be
the most compelling.

1154
01:00:09,100 –> 01:00:11,500
Like he does least Eminem, what
happened to him.

1155
01:00:11,600 –> 01:00:15,900
The rumor there is that he died
in, I think died of a drug

1156
01:00:15,900 –> 01:00:17,800
overdose.
It might have also been a car

1157
01:00:17,800 –> 01:00:21,000
crash though.
Maybe a drug-induced car crash

1158
01:00:21,000 –> 01:00:24,000
but something like that.
And then when they just wanted

1159
01:00:24,000 –> 01:00:27,800
to keep The money train going.
So they pumped out a new Eminem

1160
01:00:27,800 –> 01:00:30,600
and that’s why there was like 5
years between a couple of his

1161
01:00:30,600 –> 01:00:31,800
albums.
I don’t know.

1162
01:00:31,800 –> 01:00:34,800
I don’t believe it.
I think it’s, I think it’s also

1163
01:00:35,200 –> 01:00:38,200
not true.
If Eminem did get in a crazy car

1164
01:00:38,200 –> 01:00:40,900
accident, might explain why his
face looks different.

1165
01:00:40,900 –> 01:00:44,000
Well, have you, okay, what can
Spirit you do this podcast?

1166
01:00:44,100 –> 01:00:47,400
Mmm, do you not believe in any
conspiracy theories?

1167
01:00:48,500 –> 01:00:52,200
I believe in so many so many.
I feel defeated.

1168
01:00:52,300 –> 01:00:55,500
I feel like I didn’t come with
as much Much as I thought I came

1169
01:00:55,500 –> 01:00:58,300
with and you debunked it all
very quickly and I’m very

1170
01:00:58,500 –> 01:01:00,500
disappointed.
There’s just not that much to

1171
01:01:00,500 –> 01:01:02,600
it.
There’s not there’s not a lie,

1172
01:01:02,600 –> 01:01:05,500
still, it’s one of those that I
would believe if it happened

1173
01:01:05,500 –> 01:01:07,800
like if they were like how this
actually happened I would be

1174
01:01:07,800 –> 01:01:11,200
like oh I believe it.
Yeah, I could see someone trying

1175
01:01:11,200 –> 01:01:12,400
it.
I just don’t know if it would

1176
01:01:12,400 –> 01:01:17,500
have been as successful as it
was now but it wasn’t because

1177
01:01:17,500 –> 01:01:20,200
people found out today, not
enough.

1178
01:01:20,200 –> 01:01:23,400
That’s one of the things that
I’m like this, if this actually

1179
01:01:23,400 –> 01:01:26,400
was George Harrison’s Since last
will and testament and it was

1180
01:01:26,400 –> 01:01:29,500
like tapes, it wouldn’t have
been just some guy and some

1181
01:01:29,500 –> 01:01:31,600
small Studio.
That’s it’s been a

1182
01:01:31,600 –> 01:01:35,100
disappointing.
Few days, not that, I want Paul

1183
01:01:35,100 –> 01:01:37,300
McCartney to die because I love
Paul McCartney.

1184
01:01:37,600 –> 01:01:40,200
I have a beetle tattoo.
That’s it.

1185
01:01:40,200 –> 01:01:41,600
That’s, that’s a lot.
What it does?

1186
01:01:41,600 –> 01:01:43,700
It just say the Beatles know.
It says Paul McCartney.

1187
01:01:43,700 –> 01:01:47,700
He died in 1967.
It’s a tramp stamp.

1188
01:01:48,300 –> 01:01:51,200
That’s where the rumor started.
That’s right there right there.

1189
01:01:51,200 –> 01:01:53,500
No, it’s just a whisper words of
wisdom.

1190
01:01:54,100 –> 01:01:56,700
Oh, Oh, let it be.
All right.

1191
01:01:57,000 –> 01:01:58,500
Did anybody leave it in comments
for?

1192
01:01:58,500 –> 01:02:00,700
They were like, she’s making a
compelling.

1193
01:02:01,000 –> 01:02:04,800
No know where they mean to me.
No, there weren’t a lot of

1194
01:02:04,808 –> 01:02:07,600
comments.
I think people were just wrapped

1195
01:02:07,600 –> 01:02:09,600
with attention.
I don’t think that’s how you say

1196
01:02:09,600 –> 01:02:11,300
that though.
They were paying attention.

1197
01:02:11,400 –> 01:02:13,300
Yeah, yeah.
People are just listening.

1198
01:02:13,400 –> 01:02:15,800
They were waiting for you to
sell them and I’m sure some

1199
01:02:16,100 –> 01:02:17,300
listen.
I’m sure you did.

1200
01:02:17,300 –> 01:02:21,000
What are you gonna say somewhat?
I’m sure you sold some people on

1201
01:02:21,000 –> 01:02:23,000
it.
I don’t have any doubt, not me,

1202
01:02:23,200 –> 01:02:28,500
but but what Okay, I still stand
by one day, on Paul’s death bed,

1203
01:02:28,800 –> 01:02:31,200
he’s gonna be like I’m Billy
shears.

1204
01:02:31,300 –> 01:02:34,400
I would too if I was Paul
McCartney just to like fuck with

1205
01:02:34,400 –> 01:02:37,500
people even then you wouldn’t
believe it if he gives us a DIY

1206
01:02:37,800 –> 01:02:42,200
isn’t even a DNA test because he
doesn’t have to that’s like

1207
01:02:42,200 –> 01:02:45,600
asking why the Sandy Hook
parents don’t give Alex Jones,

1208
01:02:45,600 –> 01:02:49,700
DNA tests on other kids, okay?
It’s not exactly.

1209
01:02:49,700 –> 01:02:53,600
It is time you exactly the same
but it’s not that far off.

1210
01:02:53,600 –> 01:02:56,700
The answer is is because you’re
not entitled to that level of

1211
01:02:56,700 –> 01:02:59,300
information.
Just because you got a hunch

1212
01:02:59,300 –> 01:03:02,500
about Paul McCartney, like I
don’t want the information.

1213
01:03:02,500 –> 01:03:04,800
I think he should just give the
information.

1214
01:03:04,800 –> 01:03:08,600
So the rumor will die and Kim
can rest in peace.

1215
01:03:08,700 –> 01:03:11,200
You think the government,
couldn’t fake something like

1216
01:03:11,200 –> 01:03:13,200
that.
What do you have Paul

1217
01:03:13,200 –> 01:03:16,400
McCartney’s?
Real DNA, to compare it with C.

1218
01:03:16,400 –> 01:03:18,700
So do you think the government
can’t fake that?

1219
01:03:18,700 –> 01:03:21,000
But they can totally.
No, I’m saying.

1220
01:03:21,000 –> 01:03:23,800
What if Paul McCartney was like
swab?

1221
01:03:23,800 –> 01:03:26,200
My cheek Baby, what would you do
with that?

1222
01:03:26,200 –> 01:03:29,500
He doesn’t sound.
Would you you run that up 21 in

1223
01:03:29,500 –> 01:03:31,500
me and whatever or whatever it’s
called?

1224
01:03:31,600 –> 01:03:34,300
Do you want to see some pictures
that I pulled up that I had

1225
01:03:34,300 –> 01:03:36,000
ready?
So you can see the differences

1226
01:03:36,000 –> 01:03:39,400
between Paul McCartney before
1966 and Paul McCartney after

1227
01:03:39,400 –> 01:03:42,400
1966?
I mean I’ve seen those pictures

1228
01:03:42,600 –> 01:03:46,200
and that’s the same thing.
You see that in like the Avril,

1229
01:03:46,200 –> 01:03:49,900
Lavigne thing, where you got to
take perspective into account,

1230
01:03:50,000 –> 01:03:54,000
also in like the distance at
which pictures are being taken

1231
01:03:54,000 –> 01:03:56,900
the shape, Shadows.
If Paul McCartney was in a car

1232
01:03:56,900 –> 01:03:57,900
accident.
Was there.

1233
01:03:57,900 –> 01:04:00,700
Some sort of plastic surgery he
had to have that was

1234
01:04:00,700 –> 01:04:03,100
reconstructive in nature that
might change things.

1235
01:04:03,200 –> 01:04:06,900
Like, I’ve seen the pictures
your theory on the whole they

1236
01:04:06,900 –> 01:04:09,900
made it up and they were trying
to run with it on Sergeant

1237
01:04:09,900 –> 01:04:12,900
Pepper and no one really talked
about the time until after

1238
01:04:12,900 –> 01:04:15,200
sergeant pepper.
I’m still not convinced.

1239
01:04:15,300 –> 01:04:17,800
I still kind of believe it,
okay?

1240
01:04:17,800 –> 01:04:19,600
How did George Harrison know
what time?

1241
01:04:19,600 –> 01:04:23,800
Paul, McCartney died, because he
left the studio at like four

1242
01:04:23,800 –> 01:04:26,400
ish.
They got the call like six ish

1243
01:04:26,400 –> 01:04:29,300
and the cops, the hyena and mom
was like like five.

1244
01:04:29,300 –> 01:04:32,200
He was like, what was the exact
time of death baby?

1245
01:04:33,700 –> 01:04:36,500
Hari Krishna.
What time did he die?

1246
01:04:36,700 –> 01:04:38,600
I’m sure they told them, you
know?

1247
01:04:38,600 –> 01:04:40,800
And someone you know, I don’t
like you think the police were

1248
01:04:40,800 –> 01:04:44,000
like, oh mr.
Harrison, he died at 5 a.m. in

1249
01:04:44,000 –> 01:04:46,000
it.
He doesn’t sound like awesome

1250
01:04:46,000 –> 01:04:48,400
power ups cop.
Yeah, I mean but you know like

1251
01:04:48,400 –> 01:04:51,800
if your friend was in a car at
like if your clothes best friend

1252
01:04:51,800 –> 01:04:54,200
died in the car accident, they
tell you the time of death.

1253
01:04:54,400 –> 01:04:56,700
If he wasn’t like, hey can
someone tell me the time of

1254
01:04:56,700 –> 01:04:58,300
death?
Because I’m making this like,

1255
01:04:58,500 –> 01:05:01,400
no, they like they said that
they brought him to the, the,

1256
01:05:01,400 –> 01:05:04,500
the Maxwell brought them to the
car wreck to identify Paul

1257
01:05:04,500 –> 01:05:06,400
McCartney.
They were like, yeah, that’s our

1258
01:05:06,400 –> 01:05:08,500
friend, Paul McCartney, and
they’re like, yeah, time of

1259
01:05:08,500 –> 01:05:12,100
death was around 5:00 a.m.
Why did Maxwell take them?

1260
01:05:12,100 –> 01:05:14,600
Because he was the guy who was
handling the when they when they

1261
01:05:14,600 –> 01:05:18,100
found out that it was Paul
McCartney, they called mi3, who

1262
01:05:18,100 –> 01:05:21,100
knew it was Paul McCartney of
The Beatles had to come identify

1263
01:05:21,100 –> 01:05:23,000
him.
See that Parts on unclear?

1264
01:05:23,200 –> 01:05:27,700
It sure is Drita’s, the one who
knew it was Paul McCartney and

1265
01:05:27,700 –> 01:05:31,200
she will assign the room crying.
He was decapitated, and she was

1266
01:05:31,500 –> 01:05:34,100
in good enough Health that she
could be, like, it’s Paul

1267
01:05:34,100 –> 01:05:36,900
McCartney in it.
Oh, that had, that, that’s not

1268
01:05:36,900 –> 01:05:38,600
proof.
That happens all the time.

1269
01:05:39,000 –> 01:05:41,700
Someone in a car accident, walks
away and see how the other

1270
01:05:41,700 –> 01:05:45,900
person is fine who called the
police, and then the police, and

1271
01:05:45,900 –> 01:05:48,300
the police called Maxwell, damn
it.

1272
01:05:48,700 –> 01:05:50,400
I just, I don’t, I don’t know
why.

1273
01:05:50,800 –> 01:05:53,300
I don’t know why would that
would it would go down that way.

1274
01:05:53,300 –> 01:05:56,100
Like I get that the You know,
the Beatles are celebrities and

1275
01:05:56,100 –> 01:05:59,200
things.
But yeah, I mean, I just this

1276
01:05:59,200 –> 01:06:03,000
would be such a needlessly
elaborate thing.

1277
01:06:03,100 –> 01:06:06,800
When you could just as easily
sit people down and be like,

1278
01:06:06,800 –> 01:06:09,900
look, this is gonna hurt.
You’re going to be sad but Paul

1279
01:06:09,900 –> 01:06:12,400
McCartney died.
Like yeah, motherfuckers might

1280
01:06:12,400 –> 01:06:15,800
be distraught.
You might get a couple people

1281
01:06:15,800 –> 01:06:18,200
who would kill themselves but
those people were going to kill

1282
01:06:18,200 –> 01:06:21,700
themselves.
So anyway, you’re doing it over

1283
01:06:21,700 –> 01:06:24,200
Paul McCartney.
You were looking for an excuse

1284
01:06:24,400 –> 01:06:28,900
So I just don’t understand what
the motivation would be.

1285
01:06:28,900 –> 01:06:31,900
Even the part where so it’s
keeping the money going, The

1286
01:06:31,900 –> 01:06:35,200
Beatles could have kept going
without Paul McCartney, you

1287
01:06:35,200 –> 01:06:37,900
think so?
Yeah, I mean the Beatles talked

1288
01:06:37,900 –> 01:06:41,300
all the time about kicking
George out and adding Eric

1289
01:06:41,300 –> 01:06:44,100
Clapton to the band but that was
a joke.

1290
01:06:44,100 –> 01:06:47,200
No, I wasn’t like, trying to win
was a real dick.

1291
01:06:47,500 –> 01:06:50,600
Brennan was an asshole, but also
you got to think of all the

1292
01:06:50,600 –> 01:06:54,800
talent around them at the time
like Bob Dylan Ellen.

1293
01:06:54,800 –> 01:06:59,200
They could, they would have
found someone to join that band,

1294
01:06:59,200 –> 01:07:02,500
fucking Pete Townsend.
Could have joined that band,

1295
01:07:02,500 –> 01:07:05,900
just keep going back to like why
did this rumors start?

1296
01:07:05,900 –> 01:07:07,700
And how is it like it’s just
weird.

1297
01:07:07,700 –> 01:07:12,000
I’m telling you, it’s because
the Beatles changed so much and

1298
01:07:12,000 –> 01:07:15,900
people want an explanation for
that change that goes beyond

1299
01:07:16,000 –> 01:07:19,800
what people change sometimes,
but people don’t want that.

1300
01:07:19,800 –> 01:07:23,600
They want there to be some
extenuating circumstance.

1301
01:07:24,000 –> 01:07:28,000
That Has made the band that was
their favorite band, that

1302
01:07:28,000 –> 01:07:31,300
sounded one way and looked one
way now they sound a whole

1303
01:07:31,300 –> 01:07:33,500
different way and look a whole
different way.

1304
01:07:33,600 –> 01:07:38,100
And why, why did this happen,
why did this happen to me and

1305
01:07:38,100 –> 01:07:42,700
eventually some idiot landed on.
You know, when they said Paul

1306
01:07:42,700 –> 01:07:46,600
McCartney had a car accident in
1966, I bet he died and that’s

1307
01:07:46,600 –> 01:07:50,000
why the Beatles had to change
some never mind the fact that

1308
01:07:50,000 –> 01:07:54,000
they were writing a bunch of the
sergeant pepper stuff before his

1309
01:07:54,000 –> 01:07:56,100
election.
Alleged death date like that,

1310
01:07:56,100 –> 01:07:57,500
you know?
That’s the thing that they’re

1311
01:07:57,500 –> 01:07:59,300
saying though, too, is that
those songs were already

1312
01:07:59,300 –> 01:08:01,200
written.
Like John was like I already

1313
01:08:01,200 –> 01:08:04,700
have a lot of material that Paul
and I did together so that can

1314
01:08:04,700 –> 01:08:06,700
be debunked.
Yeah and the thing about John

1315
01:08:06,700 –> 01:08:11,200
Lennon he was usually pretty
honest about what his songs were

1316
01:08:11,200 –> 01:08:16,800
about and the Beatles were kind
of like the TV show Lost where

1317
01:08:16,800 –> 01:08:20,500
people just poured over their
shit, looking for all these

1318
01:08:20,500 –> 01:08:24,899
secret meanings and all these
hidden Clues and The song that

1319
01:08:24,899 –> 01:08:27,700
stands out to me.
It’s on Sergeant Pepper.

1320
01:08:27,700 –> 01:08:30,200
It’s called Being for the
Benefit of mr.

1321
01:08:30,200 –> 01:08:33,899
Kite, and for years and years
and years, people are like it’s

1322
01:08:33,899 –> 01:08:36,000
a drug song, isn’t it?
It’s about drugs.

1323
01:08:36,300 –> 01:08:38,600
And John Lennon was like, no,
those are words.

1324
01:08:38,600 –> 01:08:42,800
I saw on an old circus poster
and people are like okay,

1325
01:08:43,100 –> 01:08:45,800
whatever.
And then John Lennon produced

1326
01:08:45,800 –> 01:08:50,300
that fucking circus poster and
was like, see baby this is where

1327
01:08:50,300 –> 01:08:53,300
it came from.
So famous people sound like

1328
01:08:53,300 –> 01:08:56,500
awesome powers, Yes.
Famous British people and like

1329
01:08:56,500 –> 01:08:59,500
the same thing with Lucy in the
Sky with Diamonds.

1330
01:08:59,800 –> 01:09:03,000
He was like, that’s something
one of my kids said to me and

1331
01:09:03,008 –> 01:09:04,700
they were like, no, it’s about
LSD.

1332
01:09:04,700 –> 01:09:06,399
And here’s the thing, it could
be both.

1333
01:09:06,500 –> 01:09:11,100
But like, John Lennon was pretty
open about what every songs

1334
01:09:11,100 –> 01:09:12,800
meant even when they meant
nothing.

1335
01:09:12,800 –> 01:09:16,700
Like if you listen to I Am The
Walrus that song is good.

1336
01:09:16,700 –> 01:09:20,800
Shoe that song is gibberish.
It is absolutely meaningless.

1337
01:09:20,800 –> 01:09:24,200
And when asked about it, he was
like that song is gibberish.

1338
01:09:24,300 –> 01:09:26,399
Shhhh, hit me.
What about Eleanor Rigby?

1339
01:09:26,399 –> 01:09:29,700
They said that that song is
about Paul’s Funeral.

1340
01:09:29,700 –> 01:09:32,700
Like, the preacher says, a
sermon that no one will hear.

1341
01:09:32,800 –> 01:09:38,899
Eleanor Rigby is on the revolver
album.

1342
01:09:38,899 –> 01:09:41,200
When did that?
That came out before Sergeant

1343
01:09:41,200 –> 01:09:44,200
Pepper.
I think that came out before our

1344
01:09:44,200 –> 01:09:48,100
after he died.
At least I think it what year

1345
01:09:48,800 –> 01:09:57,500
did the revolver?
Album come out 1966.

1346
01:09:57,700 –> 01:09:59,100
Uh-huh.
What month.

1347
01:09:59,700 –> 01:10:04,300
Um oh no.
See that would have come back to

1348
01:10:04,308 –> 01:10:08,600
me, just make this documentary,
call it a documentary, and then

1349
01:10:08,600 –> 01:10:11,200
just put it out there into the
World.

1350
01:10:11,200 –> 01:10:14,700
By the way, it, before I watch
this thing, I am a very smart

1351
01:10:14,700 –> 01:10:16,700
person.
I know told me to watch this

1352
01:10:16,700 –> 01:10:19,600
because I told him, I believe,
Paul McCartney died in 66, he

1353
01:10:19,608 –> 01:10:21,000
was so, have you ever seen that
documentary?

1354
01:10:21,200 –> 01:10:24,500
I was like, no, I did my, I did
my own research.

1355
01:10:24,600 –> 01:10:26,600
Yeah.
I just became my own research

1356
01:10:26,600 –> 01:10:29,900
crowd.
Yeah, Eleanor Rigby was on the

1357
01:10:30,200 –> 01:10:31,800
revolver album that came out
before.

1358
01:10:31,800 –> 01:10:34,400
Sergeant Pepper.
Yeah, so any references to

1359
01:10:34,400 –> 01:10:39,600
anything on?
I think even strong Fields.

1360
01:10:39,600 –> 01:10:43,700
I think even came out before.
Paul McCartney, is alleged to

1361
01:10:43,700 –> 01:10:45,800
have died and that’s another
song where people like,

1362
01:10:45,800 –> 01:10:47,700
strawberry feel.
It’s a cemetery.

1363
01:10:47,900 –> 01:10:50,200
It was like, yeah.
But that doesn’t, no no, it came

1364
01:10:50,200 –> 01:10:53,100
out in.
Kevin, what did Strawberry

1365
01:10:53,100 –> 01:10:56,800
Fields, okay, but I think I
think that’s your Genesis for

1366
01:10:56,800 –> 01:11:00,000
this rumor.
I do honestly think it is that

1367
01:11:00,000 –> 01:11:02,900
the Beatles change their sound
in there.

1368
01:11:02,900 –> 01:11:07,000
Look so dramatically and as far
as their sound, it wasn’t that

1369
01:11:07,000 –> 01:11:10,400
dramatic people just weren’t
ready for those fucking suits

1370
01:11:10,400 –> 01:11:13,800
that they put on on the Sergeant
Pepper album but their sound was

1371
01:11:13,800 –> 01:11:15,600
already getting pretty
experimental.

1372
01:11:15,600 –> 01:11:18,800
They just got fucking weird on
the Sergeant Pepper album which

1373
01:11:18,800 –> 01:11:21,000
I honestly, I think is not one
of their better.

1374
01:11:21,100 –> 01:11:23,700
Albums.
But I know people love it.

1375
01:11:23,700 –> 01:11:25,000
Like the album.
Hold on, I know.

1376
01:11:25,000 –> 01:11:27,800
I like it, but, like, that’s the
other thing.

1377
01:11:27,800 –> 01:11:33,300
Like, if Paul McCartney was
replaced with an imposter, they

1378
01:11:33,300 –> 01:11:37,200
didn’t just find someone as good
as Paul McCartney, they found

1379
01:11:37,200 –> 01:11:40,100
someone better because Paul
McCartney, at least in my

1380
01:11:40,100 –> 01:11:43,500
opinion.
Does all of his best work after

1381
01:11:43,700 –> 01:11:46,600
sergeant pepper.
And I know there are people

1382
01:11:46,600 –> 01:11:49,400
who’d be like, see he was
replaced.

1383
01:11:49,500 –> 01:11:52,800
No, he’s just maturing as a
Songwriter, I think he still

1384
01:11:52,800 –> 01:11:55,300
could have been replaced.
No, he couldn’t.

1385
01:11:55,400 –> 01:11:57,800
No Hilt mockingly.
So yours was just a better

1386
01:11:57,800 –> 01:12:02,100
musician.
He could not like it would not

1387
01:12:02,100 –> 01:12:06,100
have fucking worked.
People would not have fallen for

1388
01:12:06,100 –> 01:12:09,800
that shit like there’s no.
And also your you’re crossing

1389
01:12:09,800 –> 01:12:13,100
your wires, like, half the time.
It’s well, they didn’t need him

1390
01:12:13,100 –> 01:12:15,100
to be that good because John
Lennon had all these songs

1391
01:12:15,100 –> 01:12:17,000
written.
Well then did this guy writes,

1392
01:12:17,000 –> 01:12:20,700
what if it was both?
What if it was both then, Then

1393
01:12:20,700 –> 01:12:22,500
what happened to all?
The songs John Lennon had

1394
01:12:22,500 –> 01:12:24,700
written but what if they were
like part of them?

1395
01:12:24,700 –> 01:12:27,000
What if he was like, I have
these songs and Billy shears.

1396
01:12:27,000 –> 01:12:29,800
Like I have some ideas, The
Beatles only made like four more

1397
01:12:29,800 –> 01:12:33,200
albums after this and then they
broke up because of the guilt.

1398
01:12:33,200 –> 01:12:36,700
They broke up because they hated
each other makes me so sad.

1399
01:12:36,700 –> 01:12:39,200
I’d rather the guilt but I don’t
know.

1400
01:12:39,300 –> 01:12:43,300
It’s not see that again, that’s
the that’s the exact same thing.

1401
01:12:43,400 –> 01:12:46,400
That’s you in your heart,
wanting it to be something other

1402
01:12:46,400 –> 01:12:49,600
than what it really is, which is
sometimes paid up.

1403
01:12:50,200 –> 01:12:53,100
Why sometimes people just don’t
get along anymore?

1404
01:12:53,300 –> 01:12:56,500
Like well yeah because well you
know, the Yoko Factor see how

1405
01:12:56,500 –> 01:12:59,100
they blamed Yoko but they
already had a bunch of problems

1406
01:12:59,100 –> 01:13:01,400
but it was easier just to blame
Yoko and that’s what the oh

1407
01:13:01,400 –> 01:13:05,400
cofactor is is like yeah I think
that’s a thing fans kind of

1408
01:13:05,400 –> 01:13:08,300
project on the Beatles to and I
think it’s the same thing where

1409
01:13:08,300 –> 01:13:11,600
they want to be like oh, why
would why would our Four Lads

1410
01:13:11,700 –> 01:13:14,700
from Liverpool break up.
And it’s like, oh, because they

1411
01:13:14,700 –> 01:13:17,400
had that evil outside influence,
that was the Oklahoma.

1412
01:13:18,400 –> 01:13:20,000
Oh, it’s because they didn’t get
along with him.

1413
01:13:20,200 –> 01:13:22,200
Mr. Paul, but real Paul was
cool.

1414
01:13:22,400 –> 01:13:24,900
It’s like, no, they just, they
broke up in.

1415
01:13:24,900 –> 01:13:28,700
It’s probably for the best.
Like, the alternative is the

1416
01:13:28,700 –> 01:13:32,300
Rolling Stones.
Like I say this all the time,

1417
01:13:32,600 –> 01:13:35,100
the Rolling Stones and the
Beatles have approximately the

1418
01:13:35,100 –> 01:13:38,800
same number of like actual hits.
Yes.

1419
01:13:38,800 –> 01:13:42,900
Just that the Beatles did it in
10 albums and the Rolling Stones

1420
01:13:42,900 –> 01:13:46,900
have like, 40, if 40 albums?
I mean, they’ve been making

1421
01:13:46,900 –> 01:13:50,100
music this whole time.
Like I don’t, I don’t know.

1422
01:13:50,200 –> 01:13:54,900
If they’ve cranked out a bunch
in the 2010s OR 2020s, but they

1423
01:13:54,900 –> 01:13:57,600
got a shit ton of albums.
I think they have like a leaker

1424
01:13:57,600 –> 01:13:59,600
T.
Some I don’t think that guy did

1425
01:13:59,600 –> 01:14:01,300
as much drugs is he says, he
did.

1426
01:14:01,400 –> 01:14:03,900
Who Mick Jagger or kiosk towards
follow them.

1427
01:14:03,900 –> 01:14:06,300
They’re still alive, maybe it’s
the drugs.

1428
01:14:06,300 –> 01:14:09,700
Keeping him alive, I don’t know,
but all the rock stars are dying

1429
01:14:09,700 –> 01:14:12,300
around 60 because it’s like well
you can’t do a bunch of drugs

1430
01:14:12,300 –> 01:14:14,000
and drink your whole life and
not.

1431
01:14:14,000 –> 01:14:15,800
Yeah, that’s true.
I don’t know.

1432
01:14:16,200 –> 01:14:19,300
Maybe we’re doing better drugs.
These days I could also be

1433
01:14:19,300 –> 01:14:23,100
that’s probably all Is what if
we don’t end this with me saying

1434
01:14:23,500 –> 01:14:26,900
you’ve convinced me but we in
this with both of us saying that

1435
01:14:26,900 –> 01:14:29,200
we could both maybe possibly be
right.

1436
01:14:29,400 –> 01:14:31,000
Oh, I know.
I’m right.

1437
01:14:32,200 –> 01:14:33,300
There’s part.
Okay.

1438
01:14:33,300 –> 01:14:36,500
And again, like I sit on this,
like I don’t like I Wouldn’t Die

1439
01:14:36,500 –> 01:14:41,000
on this hill but there are some
things that I’m like, maybe.

1440
01:14:41,000 –> 01:14:45,100
Yeah, I mean, there’s coming
Helen clues in anything.

1441
01:14:45,200 –> 01:14:48,500
Like if you I’ll use it as a
comparison.

1442
01:14:48,500 –> 01:14:50,600
Again, if you look into the
sand, A hook thing.

1443
01:14:50,600 –> 01:14:56,000
If you just read the surface
level claims about what happened

1444
01:14:56,000 –> 01:15:00,000
at Sandy Hook, a lot of it does
seem like compelling proof of a

1445
01:15:00,000 –> 01:15:03,000
conspiracy theory and all you
got, oh god, I didn’t even read

1446
01:15:03,000 –> 01:15:06,600
those.
But if you look into each one a

1447
01:15:06,600 –> 01:15:10,500
little bit deeper, like you can
debunk all of it, like there was

1448
01:15:10,500 –> 01:15:14,800
one that there’s a above head
photo from the day, the shooting

1449
01:15:14,800 –> 01:15:16,000
happened.
And there’s a bunch of Christmas

1450
01:15:16,000 –> 01:15:20,000
trees outside and people are
like, why did they have all the

1451
01:15:20,000 –> 01:15:22,000
money?
Memorial trees ready on the same

1452
01:15:22,000 –> 01:15:24,700
day, the shooting happened.
They didn’t they were selling

1453
01:15:24,700 –> 01:15:29,400
fucking Christmas trees at the
school like, oh God, I don’t

1454
01:15:29,400 –> 01:15:33,000
think it’s the same at all.
It’s not is like it’s the same.

1455
01:15:33,100 –> 01:15:35,700
It’s the same thinking, it’s
exactly what you said.

1456
01:15:35,700 –> 01:15:39,800
They know, people aren’t going
to look into it.

1457
01:15:39,900 –> 01:15:43,100
The people who do the least
amount of research in this world

1458
01:15:43,100 –> 01:15:45,700
are the, do your own research
crowd?

1459
01:15:45,700 –> 01:15:48,800
They don’t ya, they don’t
research, they follow Twitter

1460
01:15:48,800 –> 01:15:51,400
accounts that Later.
They think they are doing my

1461
01:15:51,400 –> 01:15:55,200
research on this.
Well, that’s the thing, like

1462
01:15:55,200 –> 01:15:58,000
watching a documentary, like
this isn’t enough.

1463
01:15:58,000 –> 01:16:00,300
Like it’s not I watch YouTube
videos.

1464
01:16:00,300 –> 01:16:03,800
I read articles.
There’s a quote from Ringo Starr

1465
01:16:03,800 –> 01:16:05,300
that he’s like, yeah, that did
happen.

1466
01:16:05,300 –> 01:16:08,200
And we’re sad, but we, we can’t,
there’s a quote somewhere, but

1467
01:16:08,200 –> 01:16:10,500
it was on the New York Post and
are the New York.

1468
01:16:10,500 –> 01:16:12,500
Yeah.
Like not the most, like an

1469
01:16:12,500 –> 01:16:16,200
Enquirer situation.
Yeah, it’s just so I did.

1470
01:16:16,200 –> 01:16:18,900
I did do some research.
I did do a lot of research.

1471
01:16:18,900 –> 01:16:20,000
I didn’t just watch a
documentary.

1472
01:16:20,500 –> 01:16:22,500
I just watched the documentary
yesterday because I thought it

1473
01:16:22,508 –> 01:16:25,400
would help me but it actually it
did not.

1474
01:16:25,400 –> 01:16:27,900
It made me kind of think.
I might have been wrong this

1475
01:16:27,900 –> 01:16:29,900
whole time.
Maybe I won’t say that you’ve

1476
01:16:29,900 –> 01:16:32,300
convinced me but you have
disappointed me.

1477
01:16:32,300 –> 01:16:35,000
I feel like I have secretly
convinced you, but you don’t

1478
01:16:35,000 –> 01:16:36,600
have to admit it.
It’s fine.

1479
01:16:36,900 –> 01:16:40,300
No, no worries.
It’s just, I liked that part of

1480
01:16:40,300 –> 01:16:44,100
my personality and the part that
thought Paul McCartney died in

1481
01:16:44,108 –> 01:16:46,800
the 60s, I am?
Yeah, I will be honest.

1482
01:16:46,800 –> 01:16:49,600
It is probably your defining
characteristic.

1483
01:16:49,800 –> 01:16:51,900
It’s The only thing people know
about me.

1484
01:16:51,900 –> 01:16:55,000
Yeah, I remember, I think I met
you through Jeff.

1485
01:16:55,000 –> 01:16:57,900
And I’m pretty sure the first
thing he said was, hey, you

1486
01:16:57,900 –> 01:17:01,500
should have my friend Kim on,
she believes Paul McCartney,

1487
01:17:01,500 –> 01:17:04,000
died in the 1960s.
She’s a really good comedian.

1488
01:17:04,000 –> 01:17:06,700
She’d probably like to come.
Try a McRib.

1489
01:17:06,900 –> 01:17:09,200
I think you were on the McRib
episode that was the first time

1490
01:17:09,200 –> 01:17:12,300
we met was the McRibs.
Yeah yeah that was that was I

1491
01:17:12,300 –> 01:17:13,900
have you to someone took a
picture of me.

1492
01:17:13,900 –> 01:17:18,900
Hating my first McRib?
Yeah which McRib just passed our

1493
01:17:18,900 –> 01:17:19,700
IP.
They claim.

1494
01:17:19,700 –> 01:17:22,800
They’re never Bring it back but
they always bring it back like

1495
01:17:22,800 –> 01:17:24,800
once a year.
So they do they say this is the

1496
01:17:24,800 –> 01:17:26,100
last time but I don’t believe
it.

1497
01:17:26,200 –> 01:17:28,500
Yeah.
That’s so that it’s my only.

1498
01:17:28,500 –> 01:17:31,400
So I would have what I’m gonna
do.

1499
01:17:31,400 –> 01:17:37,700
I’m gonna I’ve done all the
research I can and every time it

1500
01:17:37,700 –> 01:17:40,700
comes back to be just a weird
thing to make up, all right.

1501
01:17:40,700 –> 01:17:43,500
I’m not gonna say I have been
convinced otherwise but I’m

1502
01:17:43,508 –> 01:17:46,900
going to say I inch the other
way a few inches.

1503
01:17:47,100 –> 01:17:48,900
Well good.
And that’s like, that’s not

1504
01:17:48,900 –> 01:17:51,000
necessarily the point.
Eight of these episodes.

1505
01:17:51,000 –> 01:17:54,000
I’m not trying to change
people’s minds, but, you know,

1506
01:17:54,100 –> 01:17:56,300
just trying to do, you just
turn, you always change their

1507
01:17:56,300 –> 01:17:58,800
minds or do you off is the first
time we’ve done one of these?

1508
01:17:58,800 –> 01:18:02,200
You are, you are the pilot
program and it went very well.

1509
01:18:02,300 –> 01:18:03,700
It did, it did.
Oh, yeah.

1510
01:18:03,700 –> 01:18:05,000
This was great.
Okay, okay.

1511
01:18:05,000 –> 01:18:07,000
Okay.
That’s all I need my.

1512
01:18:07,900 –> 01:18:10,300
I feel like, I feel like I had
all this research, and then

1513
01:18:10,300 –> 01:18:16,200
you’re like, no.
And here’s why that is my job.

1514
01:18:16,200 –> 01:18:20,000
Well, so, Kim, thank you so much
for doing the episode of me.

1515
01:18:20,100 –> 01:18:22,900
Especially on such short.
Notice do you have anything to

1516
01:18:22,907 –> 01:18:25,600
plug before?
We’re out of here?

1517
01:18:25,700 –> 01:18:28,200
Yeah, I have a book in a
podcast.

1518
01:18:28,200 –> 01:18:31,400
I wrote a book about my dating
life called Confessions of a

1519
01:18:31,407 –> 01:18:36,100
recovering party girl and how
much I used to drink so drinking

1520
01:18:36,100 –> 01:18:39,100
and dating and then I have a
podcast called crawlspace Kim

1521
01:18:39,100 –> 01:18:42,300
crawl.
K ym kral space.

1522
01:18:42,800 –> 01:18:45,600
Um yeah.
All right do I have anything to

1523
01:18:45,608 –> 01:18:48,100
plug Adam?
Todd Brown, dotsub stack.com,

1524
01:18:48,200 –> 01:18:49,900
things are heating up over
there.

1525
01:18:50,100 –> 01:18:53,300
That’s where I write you can
give me money too, right?

1526
01:18:53,300 –> 01:18:55,800
Although everything on there is
free for right now but that’s

1527
01:18:55,800 –> 01:18:59,300
going to change very soon.
My most recent column is about

1528
01:18:59,300 –> 01:19:03,700
how I think there’s a good
possibility Trump and carry Lake

1529
01:19:03,700 –> 01:19:08,600
might run as an independent
ticket in 2024 and then storm

1530
01:19:08,600 –> 01:19:12,800
the capital when they don’t win.
So go read about down and other

1531
01:19:12,800 –> 01:19:15,000
than that that’s all I got two
plus three legs.

1532
01:19:15,000 –> 01:19:17,300
The broad from Arizona that
barely lost.

1533
01:19:17,300 –> 01:19:18,600
Who looks like.
She’s always in a filter.

1534
01:19:19,000 –> 01:19:21,500
Yeah, she’s a fucking Nightmare.
She’s a mess.

1535
01:19:21,500 –> 01:19:23,100
Yeah.
And I think that’s it.

1536
01:19:23,100 –> 01:19:24,500
We should get out of here.
Kim.

1537
01:19:24,500 –> 01:19:25,700
Say goodbye.
Hello.

1538
01:19:25,900 –> 01:19:27,600
Goodbye everyone.
Thanks for having me.

1539
01:19:27,800 –> 01:19:29,100
Goodbye everybody.
We love you.

1540
01:19:34,400 –> 01:19:34,900
People have.

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