Adam and Olivia look back on that time Alex Jones made a Bohemian Grove documentary that looked suspiciously like The Blair Witch Project.
Documentary Link: https://youtu.be/hdet8urA_b8
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Welcome to conspiracy the show.
The world’s most trusted
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conspiracy theory podcast with
your host, Adam Todd Brown and
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Olivia haydar
Hey, everybody, Welcome to
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conspiracy the show.
I’m Adam Todd Brown.
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Who are you?
I’m Olivia haydar.
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I’m talking quieter than usual
because we are infiltrating
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Bohemian Grove today.
Oh, right, of course, yeah.
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Except just by way of an Alex
Jones documentary about Bohemian
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Grove Olivia, how’s it going?
It’s going.
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Okay, it’s going.
Okay, today’s episode was your
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idea, explain yourself.
It was and I’m sorry, but I will
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miss fascinating, but no on it
is fascinating.
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There’s a lot.
He it’s not fascinating for the
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reasons.
Alex, Jones wants it to be
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fascinating, that I found that
this exists to be very
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fascinating.
Right, right?
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Yeah, well, so ok, so hottest,
like being honest, I literally,
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just Googled, I didn’t know that
this existed, I vaguely knew.
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That Alex Jones had once broken
into bringing me in Grove ended
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like film stuff, but I didn’t
know that this documentary
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existed and I but I wanted to
talk about Bohemian Grove and so
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I Googled Bohemian Grove
documentary and this it’s not a
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great story but I just thought
it was funny that like I didn’t
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I kind of was hoping that there
would be like a documentary from
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like someone who I guess.
Wasn’t Alex jokes.
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Yeah, about it.
Yeah, I’m with you.
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I Find Bohemian Grove to be
fascinating.
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Yeah, but I find this
documentary to be fascinating
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for different reasons, right?
Like it starts to get into the
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history of Bohemian Grove and
I’m like, I don’t want this from
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Alex Jones, like I can know I
can find the history of Bohemian
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Grove on my own.
Yeah, I want to see all the
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other stuff, like Wikipedia
didn’t exist when this was made,
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but it sounds like maybe the
person who wrote the Wikipedia
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submarine for Bohemian Grove
just transcribe this because
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that’s just what it is.
It’s just a lot of wrote facts
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and it’s a very weird artifact.
I would say like just a very
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strange thing and like I this
might be fucked up, but I
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actually it made Bohemian Grove
seem less creepy to me, uh,
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agreed.
Which is a, I did not think was
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going to be.
I did not expect that to be the
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outcome.
It made Bohemian Grove seem like
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a very exclusive Music Festival.
Yeah.
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Yeah, we’re just like a shitty
summer camp, rich people.
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And what I like about it, one
Alex Jones by the year 2000, I
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think was capable of producing
better quality footage than
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this.
I’ve maybe Alex Jones and I’m
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not joking was trying to kind of
make another Blair Witch Project
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because this is one year removed
from From The Blair Witch
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Project and everything about the
way, it’s executed speaks to The
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Blair Witch Project from the
fact that a lot of the footage
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is just him sitting in a hotel
room talking to hear crew in
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like, it’ll de it all feels very
found footage horror movie.
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Like yeah, but uh, so with a
side dish of American propaganda
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where Every once in awhile for
reasons, that still make no
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sense, he’ll jump in and go,
you’re in all the international
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criminal court is coming.
And it’s like, no one cares
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about that.
Except the Bush Administration
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that is about to commit a bunch
of war crimes.
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In the Middle East like this
well, which doesn’t exist yet
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the Bush Administration,
technically, they come up.
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They know, I know, I know we get
to it even the way they come up.
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This to me.
Yeah, I will say it’s interest.
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Well, it’s interesting because I
watched the documentary that we
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see being made that is basically
the reason that this documentary
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got made which was made for the
channel for by the journalist
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Jon Ronson and it does offer
some interesting insights as far
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as background details and
technical things that Alex
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leaves out of his documentary.
And I mean, look is Still two
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thousand and two thousand is
basically the 90s.
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Yeah.
And like home video equipment,
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was very expensive, and not very
good.
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And so, even like the really
good stuff like they show that
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they bought like a mini DV
camera, you know?
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But like again we’re talking
about a little squat thing,
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Alex.
Just like this was in a scanner
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darkly by this point.
I know when do that, just get a
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Darkly is 6:00 okay.
Yeah, but I know he had been
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like he’ll been ranked like
Infowars was a thing by this
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point if it was but it was more
of a regional like he’s much
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more of a regional figure at
this point like people know him
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Nationwide Because the Internet
is starting to become a thing
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and so you know that’s how these
conspiracy theories kind of
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cohere Nationwide but like he’s
still very much a hit.
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This is nation-state.
He hasn’t like like because we
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both The he is absolutely a, at
least inadvertent, if not
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purposeful government plant.
Absolutely.
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Absolutely is fed information in
order to make it seem
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ridiculous, basically, but I get
the vibe that this is pre
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selling out if that makes sense.
Like, this is real early, Alex
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Jones still, as in the year 2000
which is kind of crazy, i-i’m
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just suspicious.
One of the things he tries to
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tie Bohemian Grove.
L’ve to the way he focuses on
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the international criminal
court, really Ruffles my
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feathers because he definitely.
Yeah.
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But that’s also part of that
globalist thing from pre 9/11,
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it is, but it’s such a specific
thing to worry about, because
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who would worry about that more
than the American government
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going into, don’t disagree.
Like and also the axe.
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Says he gets to Bohemian Grove,
this doesn’t feel like an
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infiltration.
It feels like an invitation.
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Well yes.
But also that’s the part that
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the British doc actually gets
into a lot more than the Alex
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Jones when, which is weird.
Because so much of the Alex
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Jones documentary that we’re
talking about today is like the
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first hour of it is just a road
trip.
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This Camp is 25 minutes long.
Oh yeah.
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Absolutely.
You gonna just got The point it
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out and you know what this
British documentary that I’ll
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reference a few more times.
It’s like 48 minutes long.
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It’s a very short it’s a very
short thing but it is
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interesting like we see him meet
with his Source because
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apparently he he does he doesn’t
mention this at all in his
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documentary.
It’s weird that he’s got this
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weird Source who’s a lawyer
named Rick who he knows has
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infiltrated.
Bohemian Grove in the past and
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is going to like give them tips
on how to lie.
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Get in.
And they have this whole like
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covert meaning where they talk
about disguises it shit and I’m
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just shocked.
The Alex Jones didn’t include it
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in his first of the documentary
because Rick is probably CIA or
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some.
She might be he might be in like
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that’s what I’m saying.
Like it.
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I I think that Alex is still, at
least at this point fully
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believes everything that he is
saying about this.
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I like that is just the
overwhelming.
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I’m Vibe you get and it’s just
yeah this lawyer Ric guy.
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He like tells them how to dress
like the vibe that you get and
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we like you mentioned is that
it’s a super exclusive Music
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Festival Dinner Party like
summer camp all rolled into one
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and when you’re super rich and
you’re wanting to like relax,
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your security is going to be
very relaxed and I feel like it
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probably isn’t.
If you look like you fit in as
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long as you make it past like a
security checkpoint, I feel like
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it might be pretty easy to get
in.
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So let’s get into the
documentary.
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Yes.
Sorry, yeah, we’re talking all
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around it.
All of this happens around July
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15th, 2000 that is when the
Gathering at Bohemian Grove of
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the Bohemian Club right happens.
The one in particular that Alex
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Jones infiltrates, he goes into
a bunch of history about
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Bohemian Grove and he talks
about how it was founded by.
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By like intellectuals who wanted
an escape from like judeo
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Christian Norms in the things
man.
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In something about him just
saying that made it seem a
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little less.
Like don’t get me wrong, I’m
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sure it’s sketchy.
Yeah but again it feels like
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Coachella sketchy like, it feels
like this is just a place, the
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very richest people go.
To you know, do some debauchery
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it.
Like this is The Purge and
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basically yes, I think that’s
absolutely it in like the thing
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is the thing that is scary
about.
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Bohemian Grove is that it’s all
of these powerful people from
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all sides of the political
spectrum, and economic strata
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coming together and hanging out,
and like, being all friendly and
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making deals with each other,
and going into back rooms of
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back rooms and shit like that.
And not that they are.
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Also like sacrificing people to
moloch or whatever or committing
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some bigger, I don’t give a
shit.
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That’s the thing.
Like Alex Jones believes in God,
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like he’s a Christian and he
believes that the devil and shit
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and so he is just terrified of
that as well.
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Yeah I mean he believes in, I
don’t know, I don’t know that
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Alex Jones genuinely believes.
Anything like well, no, I think
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Alex Jones is 100% government
plan.
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I don’t think there is a genuine
fiber in his being line.
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Oh, absolutely.
I honestly would not be
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surprised if he is Bill Hicks.
Like the circumstances
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surrounding the death of Bill
Hicks and the rise of Alex Jones
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are very fucking weird.
Like I feel like a Alex Jones
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has a fucking job to do and
you’re I think he’s doing it in
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this documentary, like I don’t
think for a second that Alex
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Jones mistrusts, the government
Alex Jones is the government, he
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is 100% the government and he
wouldn’t be in the position to
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show us the footage.
He shows us in this documentary,
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if he was not at least somewhat
connected to the government,
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this is like think about what
he’s attending.
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Is a gathering of all of the
biggest world leaders, right?
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And he shows up days in advance
and is interviewing locals and
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is like, I’m robbing a fucking
infiltrate them.
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Did, you know, they’re eating
babies in their release Lake?
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Where is the scene of the feds
kicking in his hotel room and
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black bag in this motherfucker
that just happened to an ABC
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News producer under the Biden
Administration.
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Yeah, Like Alex Jones, but that
the news producer was looking
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into a real stuff, right?
Exactly.
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Exactly.
Yeah.
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Alex Jones isn’t looking into
real stuff here.
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Alex Jones is trying to let
people know globalists and their
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international criminal courts
that will eventually want to
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take down the Bush
Administration for war crimes
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are real problem and it’s like,
no one’s.
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Yeah.
Fucking worried about the
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international criminal court,
it’s like this.
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So this feels like the
Government saw the Blair Witch
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Project and was like, let’s do
that to at least partially sell.
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What we’re about to do in the
Middle East and I know Bush
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wasn’t elected yet, but wasn’t
he wasn’t me.
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This is a conspiracy.
We are just right in those
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fucking pre 9/11 Vibes talking
about this.
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Yeah, exactly.
This is just this is all
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happening when you trust the
government way too much still.
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Yeah.
We’ve gotten into this before a
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little bit, but like, I don’t
think that he, I think the he
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believes in a like, as much as
he is like, clearly a bad person
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and like, doesn’t belong, like,
believe in the way that like,
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you were.
I or the people at home, like,
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believe in things but like, I
think he thinks some of this
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shit’s real and I think he might
be more unwitting at least at
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the especially at this point,
but we’re talking about into
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Thousand.
I like now, I don’t know.
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I will accept that he thinks
some of this stuff is real.
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Yeah.
But I 100% in my heart of
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hearts.
Think it’s because someone from,
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the government came to him, and
was like, Hey, all this stuff.
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Yeah.
You’re saying, it’s all.
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It’s all real.
So, how about how about you come
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work with us to sit?
Dopp it?
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Yeah, we’ll look, I think that’s
probably at least true.
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It’s not about this specific
thing that about a lot of stuff
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that he has to Talked about.
But also, I think a lot of those
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people also believe in that
shit.
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Like I think this kind of goes a
little bit further and like it’s
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not in this but it’s in the
British documentary, you see him
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before the documentary takes
place immediately before and
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he’s like a local celebrity in
Austin underground.
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Type celebrity guy who people
just know and he goes to a
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church and like gives a speech
about globalism and shit In the
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Pete, documentary crews in the
back and you see soldiers in
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like uniform like clapping
about, we’re going to take the
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shit back from them and like,
you know, we’re not going to let
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that let them destroy.
What we love that, that’s the
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thing.
And like I bet that those like,
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you know, there’s there’s a
route for information to get to
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him right there like because he
has very devoted fans who will
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bring him whatever, and he’s
going to believe it because
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they’re from the military.
I don’t know.
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He’s a fucking Crazy figure at.
But I there’s just so many off
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out of character moments
scattered throughout all this
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where I just feel like he
believes this shit.
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At least this shit.
I feel like he believed it.
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Yeah, he does engage in some
classic Alex Jones.
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Misdirection is it
misinformation?
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I don’t know.
He brings up David gergen who
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was a member of the Clinton
Administration and he talks
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about how David gergen joined.
Clinton administration and
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decided to quit all of these
groups.
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He was a part of and he shows
you this newspaper article and
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he like underlines align.
That makes it seem like David
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gergen was saying, I’m not going
to run around naked eye or are,
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right?
And if you look into it, David
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gergen, quit the Bohemian Club
because it was a group that
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discriminated based on sex,
right?
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And it was a bad look for
someone in the Clinton
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Administration to Be a member of
a group that didn’t allow women.
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Sure.
And Alex Jones is painting.
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It like, oh, well, this guy was
so fucking weirded out by all
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the things he saw inside
Bohemian Grove like David gergen
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at first was like, I’m not going
to quit.
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Like why would I quit?
The Bohemian Club?
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Are you crazy?
Ran pressure mounted and people
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were like you gotta quit the
same thing happened to Vince
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Foster.
Before he joined the Clinton
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Body Count, Of course, of
course.
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E was a member of some country
club that didn’t allow women.
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And at first, he was like, no,
but it’s rad, and I like being
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there.
So, I’m just going to stay
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there.
And eventually people are like,
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no, you have to quit, and he
did.
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Right.
But Alex Jones is painting this
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like, oh, this guy was so
sketched out by what he saw
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inside there.
He had to quit, no plant not
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what happened at all.
And if you’re in Alex Jones
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truther, mmm, you ought to ask
yourself, why he’s being that.
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Just about that detail because
it’s really the only like
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Outsider criticism that is
involved in that like there’s
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not he interviews some locals
but there’s no like other
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government people who’ve been
there who are like, man, right?
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I’m gonna fucking believe this.
Yeah.
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And it’s like, no, he’s like why
is he lying about it?
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Like, if you trust Alex Jones,
you should ask yourself.
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Why?
He’s lying about that yet
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seemingly Minor Detail.
Absolutely.
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Don’t trust Alex Jones.
Oh my God I still don’t trust
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Alex Jones.
It’s she’s a SATs right up there
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with trust in the government.
I can’t stress that enough.
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I did think for most of this,
that he the woman who was
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filming.
Him was his now, ex-wife.
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But apparently no, it’s the
girlfriend from earlier but I
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thought that was interesting.
She was a girlfriend though.
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Yeah.
Girlfriend at the time?
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Yeah.
Yeah.
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I didn’t know if she was just
like working for Infowars.
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No, I wouldn’t.
Yes.
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But well.
Yeah, obviously.
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But yeah, yeah.
I didn’t know they were dating.
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Yeah.
There’s a, some interesting
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interviews with her.
She lot of talk in the
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behind-the-scenes about guns.
Like they keep saying, man, I
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wish we could have guns here.
I mistrust so much about this.
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I hate.
Yeah, I hate the way.
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The camera shakes like The Blair
Witch Project like.
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Well, this is what I was talking
about, like, the behind like the
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camera is and mentions it
briefly in this, but Don’t
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really get a look at it.
The camera is this little shitty
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thing that goes in like a fake
pager.
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What?
And Alex Jones made this as a
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horror movie and the government
saw it and was like, no, no, no.
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We can use.
Yes.
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We can use it.
Maybe.
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Yeah.
That might be it like.
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Yeah.
And then they made this does
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have a very similar climax to
the last exorcist.
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Yeah.
The Last Exorcism very similar
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ending with a lot of fire and
people dancing around it has A
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lot of found footage fives, he
might have been going for Blair
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Witch, but it also did seem like
they were using like really
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shitty cameras and almost
comedic Lee trying to keep their
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shit it and it’s just really
hard.
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We talked about it a little bit
already but there’s a whole part
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of the documentary.
That’s just like, road trip
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footage.
Yes.
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And it’s the kind of thing.
Like I would watch this from
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Nirvana in the 90s like I would
watch.
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I would watch a road documentary
about Stone Temple Pilots,
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right.
I don’t give a shit about Alex
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Jones, getting to Bohemian
Grove, but he seems to think I
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really really, really give a
shit.
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And this is the part where it
also really felt, Blair, Witch
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Project, eat.
And right.
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Yeah, because there’s the whole
prologue other the prologue in
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Blair, which is like 15 minutes.
It’s very short.
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But also, there were scenes in
Blair Witch Project that are so
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similar to this where it’s like
oh sure.
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Oh you know this is just like
off the cuff banter and we’re
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just talking in a motel room and
like can you believe you you
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found this footage and then it’s
gonna build up.
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This amazing thing and it’s like
with Blair Witch, it worked.
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And with this it doesn’t like
well, sure.
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It’s a good movie.
When also its fake, its fake.
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Yeah.
But also if you remember how
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Blair Witch was sold I do.
Yeah.
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It was sold as if it wasn’t fake
like they write there was a
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minute where people were like oh
is it real?
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And that’s a thing that carried
on with found footage movies.
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My favorite Apollo.
Yeah, is Apollo 19 or Apollo 18.
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I don’t swallow.
And show some damn respect for
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the Fallen astronauts of Apollo
18, who died by way of rock.
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Spiders, Moon Rock spiders.
Yeah moon rocks which are
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spiders.
We all know this historical
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record.
If you look into the promotion
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behind that movie, they were
still are doing the, they do in
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arg4 that well, that they were,
there were people who were like,
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no, this is found-footage baby
and it’s like, there are actors
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on the MD be like we know this
CGI in it.
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It’s my the Rocks Moon Rock.
Spiders, never, that was actual
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knowledge of moon rock, spiders?
Good movie came out in like,
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2013, they say, people are still
buying the found footage thing.
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I didn’t know about that.
It was a little earlier than
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that.
It was it was earlier than that.
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I saw.
It was South Dakota.
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Yeah I lived in South Dakota
when I saw it so and I moved to
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LA in 2011 so huh?
I thought that was like a 22.
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Pins, classic 2009, 2011 2011.
Yeah there you go.
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There you go.
All right here the years off
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tail end of my time in South
Dakota like Cloverfield had come
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out already.
We had the big found footage by
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now.
Yeah.
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But this is this was 2000.
This is just a year removed from
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the Blair Witch Project.
Sure.
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And I put all so much of like
the camera work.
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Like it’s so reminiscent.
Then of that movie, I had to
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have been on their minds.
Like, there’s no way that it was
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and I’m sure that it was an
influence, but also like even if
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they did kind of use that to
sell like I don’t know how well
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this sold, I don’t know, widely
widely spread, this was like I
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just kind of stumbled upon it
and like I tried to lock it on
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letter box and it’s not on
letter and like everything is on
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letter.
But there are some TV show.
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Shows on letterbox, you can be
the pilgrims of dark sea gasps.
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Did you start thought about
Secrets?
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I was wondering, I did.
I looked at it?
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I looked and I find, I looked at
what I did was I looked up
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Scanner Darkly because I
couldn’t find it by searching
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for dark secret.
So I looked up a scanner darkly
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and found Alex Jones in the cast
and I went to his like page and
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like tried to find it in his
credit.
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So it wasn’t there.
He doesn’t have many credits.
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Go figure.
Yeah, I know.
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So this documentary is all
building up to showing us
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something called The Cremation
of care.
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Ceremony, Alex Jones keeps
bringing it up and like, at
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least that part, I appreciate
that is yeah, something I would
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expect.
I’d never see an investable
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itself like the valley.
Like, yeah, it’s essentially
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easily the opening night
ceremony of The Illuminati’s,
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fuck Olympics.
Yeah, it’s very eyes.
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Eyes Wide Shut.
Yeah.
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Which also was a recent film?
Ha ha.
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It’s the thing people.
Always talk about when it comes
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to Bohemian.
Grove is all they worship this
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giant owl and I appreciate the
documentary for at least doing
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that for right.
Letting me.
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See video of that entire thing.
It is inherently important.
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I am glad that he did this,
right?
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Like it’s the only positive
thing that Alex Jones is.
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Done.
Probably might be.
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Yeah.
Like I have here, thinking about
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that.
This is probably his greatest
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accomplishment, being what other
competition is it there’s so
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little anti-Semitism in this
everything, it’s there, but
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there’s just not as much as you
would expect that really got to
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dig for it.
You gotta be a real
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anti-Semitism Fanboy to spot at
all.
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You know, it’s packed way more
into the BBC, the channel 4
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documentary, because It’s like a
shorter than make sure.
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So it’s all its concentrate but
know that that video that
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footage is good and I enjoyed
the random man on the street
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stuff.
I thought that was pretty funny.
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There were some good thing, he
got some good like NorCal hippie
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types which was pretty fun.
They would just go to a
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dispensary.
Yeah, there’s he does a bunch of
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man on the street stuff and he’s
in classic Bill Hicks form.
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He’s cracking.
I mean, Alex Jones form its
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cracking jokes, But also I don’t
know what he’s expecting.
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This is where all of the world’s
Elites go to gather once a year
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to let out all of their most
carnal desires.
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Yeah and he’s just asking random
Town folk about what happens
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there that’s like going to the
Staples Center and asking a
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concession worker, right?
Who the Lakers are starting
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tonight.
They don’t really know that.
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Why would they know?
Oh, they have it doesn’t matter
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that they’re in the same
building.
434
00:26:12,600 –> 00:26:14,400
Yeah.
Might as well be in different
435
00:26:14,400 –> 00:26:15,600
worlds.
Yeah.
436
00:26:15,600 –> 00:26:17,800
A couple times.
He talks to people who used to
437
00:26:17,800 –> 00:26:22,400
work there and he’s if he acts
surprised that they don’t want
438
00:26:22,400 –> 00:26:25,400
to talk about it, like I
wouldn’t fucking talk about it.
439
00:26:25,500 –> 00:26:29,400
Are you kidding me?
If I fucking worked at the crazy
440
00:26:29,600 –> 00:26:34,400
Super Rich sex Resort like in
the middle of the goddamn Woods
441
00:26:34,500 –> 00:26:38,000
where I see like old men walking
around naked the whole time like
442
00:26:38,000 –> 00:26:40,000
I’m not gonna fucking talk.
About that shit.
443
00:26:40,100 –> 00:26:41,500
I know they’ll fucking murder
me.
444
00:26:41,900 –> 00:26:46,200
I’m nobody, not just that, but
people talk about how big of an
445
00:26:46,200 –> 00:26:51,100
employer Bohemian Grove is.
So that guy probably just wants
446
00:26:51,100 –> 00:26:55,100
to keep his options of may be
working there during their next
447
00:26:55,100 –> 00:26:57,000
bacchanalia or whatever the
fuck.
448
00:26:57,200 –> 00:26:59,100
I’m sure you got to keep your
mouth shut.
449
00:26:59,100 –> 00:27:00,800
Yeah.
I mean like I don’t like it.
450
00:27:00,800 –> 00:27:04,700
I don’t like this Gathering but
I know how the world works.
451
00:27:04,700 –> 00:27:08,000
And so I understand that it’s
going to be kind of exclusive
452
00:27:08,000 –> 00:27:11,200
and secretive.
If and he keeps talking about
453
00:27:11,200 –> 00:27:16,400
The Cremation of care and he
makes it seem like this really
454
00:27:16,500 –> 00:27:23,300
dark and almost satanic thing.
And I won’t deny that if you dig
455
00:27:23,300 –> 00:27:27,300
into the roots of it, it’s not
like the best.
456
00:27:27,300 –> 00:27:30,400
But like if you dig into the
roots of Halloween, it’s like
457
00:27:30,400 –> 00:27:33,400
kind of satanic.
My problem is he keeps pointing
458
00:27:33,400 –> 00:27:37,700
at all this symbology and he’s
like this, there’s a dead body
459
00:27:37,700 –> 00:27:42,100
on the program.
Yeah, I’ve been to Ozzfest like
460
00:27:42,700 –> 00:27:46,100
there’s something as a program.
Yeah, there’s a program.
461
00:27:46,200 –> 00:27:50,400
How many fucking Satanic rituals
you know, of where they remember
462
00:27:50,400 –> 00:27:53,500
the ending of Rosemary’s, Baby,
where they got her a playbill
463
00:27:55,900 –> 00:28:00,000
program for this event.
Like yeah, there’s like people
464
00:28:00,000 –> 00:28:04,900
there, it really seems like this
worshiping of the owl thing that
465
00:28:04,900 –> 00:28:08,800
everyone makes such a big deal
out of is just this kind of
466
00:28:08,900 –> 00:28:15,000
dorky thing where every year
some poor loser is in charge of
467
00:28:15,000 –> 00:28:18,000
putting on the burning of the
owl ceremony.
468
00:28:18,400 –> 00:28:22,300
In the end, everyone just fucks
sex workers for two weeks and
469
00:28:22,300 –> 00:28:24,900
goes.
Yes and then goes back to me
470
00:28:24,900 –> 00:28:27,100
thinking about how to ruin the
world.
471
00:28:27,200 –> 00:28:30,500
Like it seems like opening night
shit.
472
00:28:30,700 –> 00:28:33,000
It seems like usik Festival
shit.
473
00:28:33,100 –> 00:28:36,600
Absolutely.
It’s is so dorky, once we
474
00:28:36,600 –> 00:28:38,800
actually get to the get to the
vegans up.
475
00:28:39,000 –> 00:28:42,600
It’s so dorky, there’s a scene
in the documentary, when the
476
00:28:42,600 –> 00:28:46,500
owl, finally bursts into flames,
you can hear someone go.
477
00:28:46,500 –> 00:28:49,600
Well, that’s pretty.
Yeah, it’s like hell, fucking
478
00:28:49,900 –> 00:28:51,600
hopefully.
Yours jerky is all this.
479
00:28:51,600 –> 00:28:53,800
If there’s a guy in the back
like, oh my God.
480
00:28:53,800 –> 00:28:55,900
I’m gonna do that at 4th of July
next year.
481
00:28:55,900 –> 00:28:59,300
This crazy.
She’s watching it, you know.
482
00:28:59,900 –> 00:29:06,900
Cold.
Oh lemon robes it’s a purchase
483
00:29:06,900 –> 00:29:08,500
agreements.
Yeah.
484
00:29:08,600 –> 00:29:11,500
Who are just you know like the
guy that they see who tries to
485
00:29:11,500 –> 00:29:15,500
tell him how to get in like
lawyer Ric is like yeah, dress
486
00:29:15,500 –> 00:29:18,800
preppy and no one will really
notice you the mood is not
487
00:29:18,800 –> 00:29:25,100
young, it’s not like this, huh?
It’s like yeah, probably not
488
00:29:25,300 –> 00:29:29,600
lice, it’s old.
And this is clearly an event
489
00:29:29,600 –> 00:29:33,500
where people who make the
highest level decisions in the
490
00:29:33,700 –> 00:29:37,200
World.
Mmm are supposed to come to like
491
00:29:37,200 –> 00:29:40,500
let loose.
Yeah I don’t doubt that it takes
492
00:29:40,500 –> 00:29:44,400
a pretty visually stunning
ritual to get that into their
493
00:29:44,400 –> 00:29:46,100
heads.
Yeah.
494
00:29:46,500 –> 00:29:49,900
But otherwise they’re gonna be
on their fucking Blackberry.
495
00:29:49,900 –> 00:29:52,800
It’s 2000.
Like of course they’re going to
496
00:29:52,800 –> 00:29:57,400
still be making deals and shit
but you gotta burn in an owl to
497
00:29:57,400 –> 00:30:01,300
get these motherfuckers out of
their shell, so they can decide
498
00:30:01,300 –> 00:30:03,500
what governments to topple in
the next.
499
00:30:03,600 –> 00:30:06,900
Twelve months.
Yeah and like Alex and his like
500
00:30:06,900 –> 00:30:11,500
buddy Mike who are the two guys
who actually go into the Grove,
501
00:30:11,600 –> 00:30:15,000
they keep calling everything
satanic and they like keep
502
00:30:15,000 –> 00:30:19,400
saying that everything is a
reference to like the devil and
503
00:30:19,400 –> 00:30:23,300
some shit but we’re talking
about a place where all of the
504
00:30:23,300 –> 00:30:28,300
biggest Cristo fascists through
how American history have come
505
00:30:28,300 –> 00:30:32,000
to hang out?
It is very clearly a Christian
506
00:30:32,100 –> 00:30:36,000
play, but like it.
Old-timey then like Alex Jones
507
00:30:36,000 –> 00:30:38,400
and like his buddy are like
evangelists.
508
00:30:38,400 –> 00:30:41,200
So they don’t recognize the
old-timey Protestant
509
00:30:41,200 –> 00:30:45,300
Christianity and he keeps
talking about all the satanic
510
00:30:45,300 –> 00:30:50,300
stuff and then at one point he
shows a skull that’s on a sign
511
00:30:50,300 –> 00:30:53,400
over like an entrance in the
forest and he’s like, this is
512
00:30:53,400 –> 00:30:56,000
the only skull we found ya.
All right.
513
00:30:56,000 –> 00:31:00,200
Wow, skirt like well this place.
I think he saw others but he
514
00:31:00,200 –> 00:31:03,000
didn’t get video, sure, sure.
Oh yeah.
515
00:31:03,000 –> 00:31:06,100
That’s a That’s a thing.
We get a lot where he’s like
516
00:31:06,100 –> 00:31:07,800
hers.
There’s video of where people
517
00:31:07,800 –> 00:31:11,500
take suntan’s but also yeah
there was a bank of Television
518
00:31:11,500 –> 00:31:13,300
screens with wires going into
them.
519
00:31:13,400 –> 00:31:18,700
What he in the in the, in the
British that he mentions two old
520
00:31:18,700 –> 00:31:22,500
guys walking around naked who
are like, hey, why don’t we pee
521
00:31:22,500 –> 00:31:24,400
here?
And then they just pee, right?
522
00:31:24,400 –> 00:31:27,200
Where they’re standing like,
that’s the kind of depraved
523
00:31:27,200 –> 00:31:29,900
activities that he can think of
that.
524
00:31:29,900 –> 00:31:33,100
He saw that he didn’t capture,
but I’m like, yeah, that’s
525
00:31:33,100 –> 00:31:36,300
gross.
Someone shit on the side of the
526
00:31:36,300 –> 00:31:39,400
building where I’m recording
this podcast right now.
527
00:31:39,400 –> 00:31:42,300
Yeah, today’s watch.
I watched a person.
528
00:31:42,300 –> 00:31:45,700
Take a shit on the sidewalk in
front of me.
529
00:31:45,700 –> 00:31:48,700
Yeah, it’s it’s crazy to think
about how both of those people
530
00:31:48,700 –> 00:31:53,700
were in the Illuminati.
Yeah, I’m not absolutely not.
531
00:31:54,100 –> 00:31:56,500
Yeah.
I’m just like, I guess that’s
532
00:31:56,500 –> 00:31:59,500
that mean that’s gross but
again, it’s creepier than it
533
00:31:59,500 –> 00:32:03,400
might be Henry, Kissinger, it’s
weird.
534
00:32:03,800 –> 00:32:06,100
It’s weird.
That’s part that Parts make.
535
00:32:06,200 –> 00:32:09,500
Yeah, you mentioned already.
He breaks this documentary in
536
00:32:09,508 –> 00:32:11,600
two sections?
One of them is called the
537
00:32:11,600 –> 00:32:14,300
Redcoats and I still have no
idea what that section was
538
00:32:14,300 –> 00:32:16,600
actually about.
But then that is the Brits,
539
00:32:16,600 –> 00:32:18,300
that’s when he’s meeting the
British people.
540
00:32:18,300 –> 00:32:22,300
That’s why they’re the Redcoats.
Because British, oh, that’s all,
541
00:32:22,300 –> 00:32:24,200
that’s all.
That’s all okay, that’s it.
542
00:32:24,200 –> 00:32:27,300
Wow, yeah.
And then make that joke that
543
00:32:27,300 –> 00:32:30,300
goes into a section called the
locals.
544
00:32:30,400 –> 00:32:32,700
Yeah.
And again, yeah, this is this is
545
00:32:32,700 –> 00:32:36,200
his man on the Free stuff.
It’s very silly.
546
00:32:36,400 –> 00:32:40,100
It’s so silly.
Because again these people live
547
00:32:40,100 –> 00:32:45,100
where Bohemian Grove is I used
to live very, very for about six
548
00:32:45,100 –> 00:32:48,500
months.
I lived within pissing distance
549
00:32:48,500 –> 00:32:53,900
of the UN and I cannot tell you
things the first about what goes
550
00:32:53,900 –> 00:32:58,700
on inside the UN other than what
makes it out to the rest of the
551
00:32:58,700 –> 00:33:01,600
world.
I have no Insider knowledge
552
00:33:01,600 –> 00:33:04,800
about the UN despite my Close
proximity.
553
00:33:04,800 –> 00:33:07,800
Yeah, they’re do these people
like it finds one guy with
554
00:33:07,800 –> 00:33:09,900
dreadlocks, who’s like?
I heard it’s rich.
555
00:33:09,900 –> 00:33:12,800
White, dudes with prostitutes
and I’m like, yep.
556
00:33:12,800 –> 00:33:16,000
That’s probably it.
Yes, most people are like, I
557
00:33:16,000 –> 00:33:17,400
guess I’ve heard of that, I
don’t know.
558
00:33:17,400 –> 00:33:20,100
I mean and then he has to like,
probably like, wouldn’t you be
559
00:33:20,100 –> 00:33:21,700
mad?
If you found out that this was
560
00:33:21,700 –> 00:33:25,100
happening and like, he like
talks to this guy who looks like
561
00:33:25,800 –> 00:33:28,500
the only problem.
You were probably too old to
562
00:33:28,500 –> 00:33:33,500
ever watch A Goofy Movie but
probably, yeah, Goofy’s kid.
563
00:33:34,000 –> 00:33:39,200
Has like a friend named Bobby
Zimmer ruski and, and he looks
564
00:33:39,200 –> 00:33:42,400
just like, I’m gonna actually,
I’m going to sit here a picture.
565
00:33:42,500 –> 00:33:45,600
He looks just like one of the
guys that he, that he interviews
566
00:33:45,600 –> 00:33:46,900
in this piece.
It’s funny.
567
00:33:47,100 –> 00:33:48,800
I just couldn’t stop thinking
about it.
568
00:33:49,600 –> 00:33:52,600
Oh yeah.
Oh oh, yeah, that guy first.
569
00:33:52,600 –> 00:33:54,900
Think I remember him?
Yes, voice.
570
00:33:54,900 –> 00:33:56,800
Bye.
Pauly Shore because he guys got
571
00:33:56,800 –> 00:34:00,300
those glasses.
I like the guy who looks like
572
00:34:00,300 –> 00:34:04,200
Jimmy Chamberlin from Smashing
Pumpkins, who he’s the last guy,
573
00:34:04,200 –> 00:34:07,500
he interviews.
So, like the last guy, it’s a
574
00:34:07,500 –> 00:34:09,500
satanic.
They’re building that.
575
00:34:09,500 –> 00:34:13,500
Like it’s like watching someone
confessed to a crime.
576
00:34:13,500 –> 00:34:18,699
They didn’t commit.
Like Alex Jones is just feeding
577
00:34:18,699 –> 00:34:21,699
him the details and this guy’s
feed him back.
578
00:34:21,800 –> 00:34:24,300
And it’s like yeah.
Like watching someone get
579
00:34:24,300 –> 00:34:30,100
radicalized like in real time
like because he was clearly
580
00:34:30,100 –> 00:34:35,100
already kind of just a stodgy
Christian guy and Did Alex just
581
00:34:35,100 –> 00:34:37,500
keeps pushing to be like, what
about this?
582
00:34:37,500 –> 00:34:38,500
Don’t you think?
This sucks?
583
00:34:38,500 –> 00:34:40,199
What about this?
Isn’t this fucked up?
584
00:34:40,199 –> 00:34:42,100
Like what about this is that
satanic?
585
00:34:42,199 –> 00:34:44,500
And then the guys finally.
Like yeah.
586
00:34:44,500 –> 00:34:47,100
That’s fucking gross.
Fuck that place.
587
00:34:47,300 –> 00:34:51,400
You could use one adjective to
describe the satanic activity.
588
00:34:51,400 –> 00:34:55,100
What would it be?
It does like satanic, I think.
589
00:34:55,100 –> 00:34:58,500
Wow, what an amazing.
Yeah, it’s yeah, it’s insane.
590
00:34:58,500 –> 00:35:01,100
He’s very Jesse Ventura’s.
Get this documentary.
591
00:35:01,100 –> 00:35:05,100
I will say except not as Jesse’s
Chiller slightly.
592
00:35:05,100 –> 00:35:07,800
Especially the part at the end
where he’s like, we’re going to
593
00:35:07,800 –> 00:35:10,700
confront George Bush.
I’m like, I bet you’re not.
594
00:35:10,700 –> 00:35:13,600
Yeah, I bet you’re not now bet.
No, probably not.
595
00:35:13,800 –> 00:35:20,700
So finally, we get to D-Day and
that is Alex Jones has term for
596
00:35:20,700 –> 00:35:26,400
the day, he finally infiltrates
Bohemian Grove just like D-Day,
597
00:35:26,500 –> 00:35:29,700
mmm, same historical,
significance.
598
00:35:29,800 –> 00:35:33,200
And so, we like today, of
course, it opens with a scene of
599
00:35:33,200 –> 00:35:36,100
him.
Shaving rice because this is the
600
00:35:36,100 –> 00:35:40,400
Blair Witch Project part to
write well and and just like the
601
00:35:40,400 –> 00:35:44,400
real, D-Day immediately
beforehand a bunch of British
602
00:35:44,400 –> 00:35:48,000
people tell the American well,
why don’t you go on ahead and
603
00:35:48,000 –> 00:35:55,400
we’ll like film you.
I also this was the part where I
604
00:35:55,408 –> 00:36:00,500
had that thought, like, okay, if
this was really Alex Jones,
605
00:36:00,700 –> 00:36:03,700
infiltrating, Bohemian Grove.
Mmm.
606
00:36:03,700 –> 00:36:07,200
This is the part in the movie,
where the feds, kicked the hotel
607
00:36:07,200 –> 00:36:09,900
door in, right?
Because the not just going to
608
00:36:09,900 –> 00:36:12,600
let that.
That’s what I loved about, the
609
00:36:12,600 –> 00:36:16,400
storm Area 51 thing, where
people were like, right, they
610
00:36:16,400 –> 00:36:19,500
can’t shoot all of us the fuck
they can’t.
611
00:36:19,600 –> 00:36:23,900
Yeah, of course, I can shoot you
all and they will This is the
612
00:36:23,900 –> 00:36:26,100
American Military.
We’re talking about.
613
00:36:26,600 –> 00:36:30,800
They could start shooting today
and never stopped ever.
614
00:36:30,800 –> 00:36:35,200
It just wouldn’t in and the fact
that Alex Jones got to do all
615
00:36:35,200 –> 00:36:40,100
this build-up and then manages
to infiltrate Bohemian Grove, it
616
00:36:40,100 –> 00:36:43,200
feels like either.
The government wanted him there
617
00:36:43,400 –> 00:36:47,100
or Bohemian Grove isn’t as big
of a deal as people make it out
618
00:36:47,100 –> 00:36:51,000
to be and I think it’s the
latter, I do too more than
619
00:36:51,000 –> 00:36:55,500
anything and like Like but also
much like, Jesse Ventura how he
620
00:36:55,500 –> 00:36:59,700
liked his idea of infiltrating
is he literally basically, just
621
00:36:59,700 –> 00:37:01,800
walks in the front entrance,
conversely.
622
00:37:01,800 –> 00:37:04,300
The best part of the British
documentary is where there’s
623
00:37:04,300 –> 00:37:07,900
like several minutes of them,
doing preppy roleplay where they
624
00:37:07,900 –> 00:37:11,300
like pretend to have like preppy
conversations.
625
00:37:11,400 –> 00:37:16,700
Yeah, I don’t really.
Yeah, the fact that they get in
626
00:37:16,700 –> 00:37:19,900
just by showing up at the gate
and being like where members,
627
00:37:20,000 –> 00:37:22,100
right?
Well I think lies, nothing.
628
00:37:22,300 –> 00:37:24,900
Ask the gate.
I think they snuck past the gate
629
00:37:25,000 –> 00:37:30,700
like the guards, but like I do
fully believe that if you were
630
00:37:30,700 –> 00:37:35,500
inside that place, if you look
like you fit in like if you were
631
00:37:35,500 –> 00:37:40,300
dressed like an asshole and like
just you know we’re old or
632
00:37:40,300 –> 00:37:44,200
whatever and white or whatever.
I bet you could pass yourself
633
00:37:44,200 –> 00:37:47,600
off and be like yeah, I’m with
the you know he talks about how
634
00:37:47,600 –> 00:37:51,900
he says that he was with the
bushes from the hillbilly Camp
635
00:37:51,900 –> 00:37:53,900
because Apparently that’s the
name of the camp, where the
636
00:37:53,900 –> 00:37:57,800
bushes stay there.
And so he’s like well we know
637
00:37:57,800 –> 00:38:00,400
we’ve got the Texas accent so
we’ll just say we’re with bush
638
00:38:00,400 –> 00:38:03,900
and you know what, if they look
the part, I bet that would not
639
00:38:03,900 –> 00:38:06,600
have bet that would be fine.
Most of the time.
640
00:38:06,800 –> 00:38:09,500
Yeah.
All the footage of him sneaking
641
00:38:09,500 –> 00:38:14,500
in is incredibly dull.
Yes, like this is this is the
642
00:38:14,500 –> 00:38:17,100
point where it really feels
Blair.
643
00:38:17,100 –> 00:38:19,400
Witch e because it’s just shaky
camera.
644
00:38:19,400 –> 00:38:21,400
Footage of people walking
through the woods.
645
00:38:21,500 –> 00:38:23,700
Yeah.
Very lucky, they’re lucky that
646
00:38:23,700 –> 00:38:27,600
they’ve got to pay off at the
end because, yeah, I feel like
647
00:38:27,600 –> 00:38:32,600
there are a lot of these kind of
someone, you know, went out to
648
00:38:32,600 –> 00:38:36,200
find crazy footage of something,
you know, like the all those
649
00:38:36,200 –> 00:38:39,300
shows about Bigfoot in shit
where there’s no payoff, there
650
00:38:39,300 –> 00:38:41,900
can’t be because Bigfoot isn’t
real.
651
00:38:42,100 –> 00:38:44,700
And so, you know, at least this
thing is real.
652
00:38:44,900 –> 00:38:46,900
That’s that’s what it’s got
going for it.
653
00:38:47,100 –> 00:38:50,200
Yeah.
There’s a part where he talks
654
00:38:50,200 –> 00:38:53,000
about being approached by By a
sheriff’s.
655
00:38:53,000 –> 00:38:57,000
Deputy yes, and conveniently,
it’s right after they turn their
656
00:38:57,000 –> 00:38:59,100
cameras off.
It’s like, well, these are
657
00:38:59,100 –> 00:39:00,900
hidden cameras, turn them back
on.
658
00:39:01,000 –> 00:39:02,200
Yeah.
Yeah.
659
00:39:02,300 –> 00:39:07,400
He talks about how they saw a
bank of Television screens with
660
00:39:07,400 –> 00:39:11,300
wires that disappeared into the
forest, but they didn’t video
661
00:39:11,300 –> 00:39:14,500
any of that.
No, although I will say, like, I
662
00:39:14,500 –> 00:39:18,800
was very, I didn’t understand
why he was shocked that there
663
00:39:18,800 –> 00:39:23,400
might be security cameras in
this Resort for The Rich and
664
00:39:23,400 –> 00:39:27,000
Famous like makes it kind of
makes sense.
665
00:39:27,000 –> 00:39:30,700
It’s the same thing as when
Jesse Ventura was driving around
666
00:39:30,700 –> 00:39:32,900
where the Bilderberg Group
meets.
667
00:39:33,000 –> 00:39:35,400
Yeah.
It’s like War, why am I being
668
00:39:35,400 –> 00:39:37,800
followed?
And it’s like you’re at the
669
00:39:37,800 –> 00:39:40,500
Bilderberg Group, right?
Yeah.
670
00:39:40,500 –> 00:39:44,100
Like there are Bank Executives
in the United States so you
671
00:39:44,100 –> 00:39:47,300
can’t follow home from work
without getting followed
672
00:39:47,300 –> 00:39:49,500
yourself.
You know, most people don’t like
673
00:39:49,500 –> 00:39:51,800
being followed and rich people
can do.
674
00:39:52,200 –> 00:39:53,300
About it.
Yeah.
675
00:39:53,300 –> 00:39:55,200
People hate it.
That’s they have the money.
676
00:39:55,200 –> 00:39:57,300
That’s all it is really.
They’ll avoid it.
677
00:39:57,400 –> 00:40:02,400
Yeah, it’s it’s crazy here.
Neither of us are saying the
678
00:40:02,400 –> 00:40:05,900
nothing about this is sketchy.
It’s just that it it’s not
679
00:40:05,900 –> 00:40:09,400
confusing in the way that it
seems like Alex Jones is shocked
680
00:40:09,400 –> 00:40:12,800
by things.
My thing about Bohemian.
681
00:40:12,800 –> 00:40:17,800
Grove is it’s obviously sketchy,
I don’t love the roots of it.
682
00:40:17,800 –> 00:40:22,100
I don’t love the origins of it,
but it’s also when it comes to
683
00:40:22,300 –> 00:40:24,500
The world’s most powerful
people.
684
00:40:24,600 –> 00:40:28,400
They’re fucking fire Festival is
the least of our concerns.
685
00:40:28,500 –> 00:40:31,000
Yeah, I do.
There’s David house and
686
00:40:31,000 –> 00:40:34,200
Bilderberg Group and all of
these things that are the same
687
00:40:34,200 –> 00:40:39,100
kind of stuff and the bigger
problem even than all of that is
688
00:40:39,100 –> 00:40:42,400
the decisions that come out of
those meetings, right?
689
00:40:42,500 –> 00:40:45,700
And how they implemented on the
world stage, I don’t care how
690
00:40:45,700 –> 00:40:49,600
much fucking they’re doing it.
Bohemian Grove, like, I don’t
691
00:40:49,600 –> 00:40:51,200
want to hear about Henry,
Kissinger.
692
00:40:51,200 –> 00:40:52,400
Fucking.
I’m Sorry.
693
00:40:52,400 –> 00:40:54,100
Yeah.
I mean if there’s like sex
694
00:40:54,100 –> 00:40:58,100
trafficking happening, which I’m
sure there is a plea.
695
00:40:58,400 –> 00:41:02,800
I remember that to not be a
thing but it’s also what I don’t
696
00:41:02,800 –> 00:41:06,100
really fit if there is I doubt
any of the Rich and powerful
697
00:41:06,100 –> 00:41:10,000
people know or have anything to
do with it directly, you know
698
00:41:10,000 –> 00:41:12,900
what I mean?
Like right there, not there
699
00:41:12,900 –> 00:41:15,900
there to burn their cares and
not think about the things that
700
00:41:15,900 –> 00:41:18,500
they do.
They are there to burn an effigy
701
00:41:18,500 –> 00:41:22,000
of dull care which is what the
hell, the fuck are exact.
702
00:41:22,200 –> 00:41:24,400
This is weird.
It’s so weird.
703
00:41:24,400 –> 00:41:29,200
It’s very weird but it’s also
super dorky and super Christian.
704
00:41:29,300 –> 00:41:32,400
Like that’s where they kept
coming to is like this.
705
00:41:32,400 –> 00:41:36,100
Just feels like church but also
like a summer camp.
706
00:41:36,100 –> 00:41:39,100
It’s like when you do like a
summer camp play about your
707
00:41:39,100 –> 00:41:45,800
camps founding but instead it’s
this Back to not trusting, Alex
708
00:41:45,800 –> 00:41:49,100
Jones.
Sure, I’m supposed to believe
709
00:41:49,200 –> 00:41:54,300
that he couldn’t walk through
the woods with his video
710
00:41:54,300 –> 00:41:57,100
equipment out without being
questioned.
711
00:41:57,200 –> 00:42:02,300
But at the most important moment
of the night, when literally
712
00:42:02,300 –> 00:42:07,400
everyone who’s there is all
gathered in one place, he gets
713
00:42:07,400 –> 00:42:10,900
like a half hour of
uninterrupted footage.
714
00:42:11,100 –> 00:42:13,800
No one says anything.
It’s shitty.
715
00:42:14,000 –> 00:42:16,300
Footage.
But no, no one.
716
00:42:16,400 –> 00:42:19,900
There’s he sure there’s cameras
in these Woods.
717
00:42:20,200 –> 00:42:23,100
Right.
None of them saw him because
718
00:42:23,100 –> 00:42:26,900
he’s like, zooming in and out.
He’s like, well, okay, I can
719
00:42:26,900 –> 00:42:29,700
actually explain some of this.
And again, we, we might have to
720
00:42:29,700 –> 00:42:33,700
do a part, a part two of this
BBC, Channel 4, and the BBC.
721
00:42:33,800 –> 00:42:37,200
Because I’m American and I just
keep thinking of British TV is
722
00:42:37,200 –> 00:42:40,100
BBC, but they go into that a
lot.
723
00:42:40,100 –> 00:42:43,800
He fucking cut a hole in the bag
and had the camera.
724
00:42:43,900 –> 00:42:47,000
In the bag.
And like, he, he talks about
725
00:42:47,000 –> 00:42:52,900
like Carrie, like, under his
arm, and then again, there’s
726
00:42:52,900 –> 00:42:56,200
that Patron camp and all of the
zooms and stuff, our post their
727
00:42:56,200 –> 00:42:57,600
added.
I’m not again.
728
00:42:57,600 –> 00:43:01,900
I’m not saying he has no, I’m
not making excuses for Alex,
729
00:43:01,900 –> 00:43:08,300
Joe, but I am saying, I think he
actually did this and like, or
730
00:43:08,300 –> 00:43:11,900
at least know, I don’t doubt any
filmed it like obviously, right
731
00:43:11,900 –> 00:43:15,100
helmed it?
No, I mean like He did sneak in,
732
00:43:15,100 –> 00:43:18,200
even if he maybe had some help
that he didn’t know about, or
733
00:43:18,200 –> 00:43:22,300
was it really thinking about?
But like nothing tripped.
734
00:43:22,300 –> 00:43:27,000
My this didn’t happen radar.
No, I am suspicious if I
735
00:43:27,000 –> 00:43:29,400
Dreaming.
I just don’t think.
736
00:43:29,400 –> 00:43:32,300
I don’t believe he wasn’t
invited sure.
737
00:43:32,500 –> 00:43:35,700
I don’t think happen again.
I think he made a movie making,
738
00:43:35,700 –> 00:43:40,200
it seem shaky snuff, but in, but
there is evidence of another
739
00:43:40,200 –> 00:43:43,600
side of that.
Also, like, we have others.
740
00:43:43,900 –> 00:43:46,000
Material that we can we can get
to.
741
00:43:46,000 –> 00:43:48,900
But like I don’t know if this is
my this is now this is like a
742
00:43:50,000 –> 00:43:55,500
mystery but like yeah hehe if he
I don’t I’m not saying he wasn’t
743
00:43:55,500 –> 00:43:59,100
invited or like that they didn’t
know that he was gonna be there
744
00:43:59,100 –> 00:44:01,700
or whatever.
But I don’t necessarily think
745
00:44:01,700 –> 00:44:03,800
that.
I think he thinks he’s just even
746
00:44:03,800 –> 00:44:07,000
chirring it.
I think he really thinks that he
747
00:44:07,000 –> 00:44:11,500
just got in and it’s like fine.
Yeah, he might I just that’s it.
748
00:44:11,600 –> 00:44:13,800
I just as far as how he got in,
I don’t know.
749
00:44:13,900 –> 00:44:17,800
Yeah, I don’t know.
Yeah, I bet this Rick guy was
750
00:44:17,800 –> 00:44:21,700
like, if this Rick guy that they
that was their Source was a
751
00:44:21,700 –> 00:44:25,100
plant or whatever like that,
give that would be just as much
752
00:44:25,100 –> 00:44:28,300
of an explanation.
The footage of the ceremony
753
00:44:28,300 –> 00:44:31,900
itself is cool.
I mean, I guess it is cool, even
754
00:44:31,900 –> 00:44:33,600
the right word.
No I can’t.
755
00:44:33,600 –> 00:44:37,200
It’s the only, the kind of thing
where like, imagine you’re
756
00:44:37,600 –> 00:44:42,400
dating someone who’s really rich
and they’re like, we come to
757
00:44:42,400 –> 00:44:44,800
this thing with me tonight.
Like it’s a thing.
758
00:44:44,800 –> 00:44:48,700
My family goes to every year.
Yes, we can have lots of fun.
759
00:44:48,700 –> 00:44:53,300
It’s just that on night one,
they’re going to do this dorky
760
00:44:53,300 –> 00:44:57,400
thing where they set a fucking
owl on fire.
761
00:44:57,900 –> 00:45:02,400
And it’s pretty, when you’re
not, we play, we play ping-pong,
762
00:45:02,400 –> 00:45:05,600
we drink.
It’s a party wherever we want,
763
00:45:05,600 –> 00:45:08,600
but there’s this whole fucking
ritual and it’s going to be
764
00:45:08,600 –> 00:45:10,300
dorky.
But will you just please come
765
00:45:10,400 –> 00:45:13,000
when you sit this point?
It was guys only.
766
00:45:13,000 –> 00:45:17,400
Oh, yeah, that’s Through my
things stands that still someone
767
00:45:17,500 –> 00:45:22,200
no sure no.
I mean like yeah the footage is
768
00:45:22,200 –> 00:45:27,400
it’s cool that it exists like
I’m glad that we had like like
769
00:45:27,400 –> 00:45:29,900
we’ve said before I’m glad we
have this as like a historical
770
00:45:29,900 –> 00:45:34,100
document.
It is so dorky though like the
771
00:45:34,100 –> 00:45:38,400
actual ceremony they do a
fucking fireworks show to In the
772
00:45:38,400 –> 00:45:41,100
Hall of the Mountain King.
You know Bubba?
773
00:45:41,100 –> 00:45:51,100
Bubba Bubba pump up.
That is dorky shit and like the
774
00:45:51,100 –> 00:45:55,500
fucking the it’s an elaborate
fireworks display, right?
775
00:45:55,500 –> 00:45:57,100
Is all.
It is, that’s it.
776
00:45:57,100 –> 00:46:01,400
Yeah, it’s the type of event
where for who knows how long
777
00:46:01,500 –> 00:46:05,600
they did this, they would end
the show with like a jet like a
778
00:46:05,600 –> 00:46:09,300
Ragtime song like it was called
the fuck it.
779
00:46:09,300 –> 00:46:11,800
What was the song?
It was called hot time in the
780
00:46:11,800 –> 00:46:16,600
old town tonight.
That’s the name of the song and
781
00:46:16,600 –> 00:46:25,900
like it’s like, literally just
decided I was like, that’s how
782
00:46:25,900 –> 00:46:30,100
it would in and say hello.
My baby?
783
00:46:30,100 –> 00:46:34,700
Hello Mom.
Exactly.
784
00:46:34,800 –> 00:46:39,900
It’s so like, I just can’t be
frightened by it at all.
785
00:46:40,200 –> 00:46:44,700
Like, if it was if they were
actually sad, Sacrificing a
786
00:46:44,700 –> 00:46:47,100
human being that would be
different.
787
00:46:47,100 –> 00:46:52,200
Obviously, there’s a horrible,
there’s a part where Alex Jones
788
00:46:52,200 –> 00:46:56,600
does like enhanced video at the
end and girl thing.
789
00:46:56,600 –> 00:47:01,000
Again during all of that he goes
listen to the scream that comes
790
00:47:01,000 –> 00:47:04,600
from the sacrifice and it’s
like, okay there’s also a
791
00:47:04,600 –> 00:47:08,200
recording that goes or you’re
trying to burn me again.
792
00:47:08,200 –> 00:47:13,600
And yet that’s, that’s tapes,
tapes is what you’re hearing.
793
00:47:13,900 –> 00:47:16,700
Walter Cronkite used to be the
voice of this.
794
00:47:16,800 –> 00:47:20,600
I’ve had found that when
researching this, and that and
795
00:47:20,600 –> 00:47:23,500
much cooler, would it be if it
was still him?
796
00:47:23,500 –> 00:47:27,700
That would have been great.
And I did kind of John we’ve had
797
00:47:27,700 –> 00:47:30,400
with his, right?
I wish we Coulda seen, like, at
798
00:47:30,400 –> 00:47:34,200
least one like, really famous
guy.
799
00:47:34,200 –> 00:47:37,700
Yeah, you know, like, just
someone like in the background,
800
00:47:37,700 –> 00:47:45,500
huh, I have Liao was suck rocks,
like I will backwards this luau,
801
00:47:46,100 –> 00:47:47,600
that’s my hairy Terry.
Thank you.
802
00:47:47,800 –> 00:47:51,800
No, it was good, it was good.
Yeah, Bohemian Grove is a thing.
803
00:47:51,800 –> 00:47:56,700
I’ve not looked into that much.
I’ve always assumed was pretty
804
00:47:56,700 –> 00:48:00,900
weird and shady, and then
Against All Odds, seeing this
805
00:48:00,900 –> 00:48:04,200
documentary made me feel like
less concerned about it.
806
00:48:04,200 –> 00:48:08,200
Yeah, I at least, don’t think
that I mean it’s just again like
807
00:48:08,200 –> 00:48:11,900
it’s just so dorky.
I just can’t be threatened by
808
00:48:11,900 –> 00:48:15,200
like, I obviously It’s bad that
all of these people are so
809
00:48:15,200 –> 00:48:19,400
buddy-buddy and like are, you
know, basically getting together
810
00:48:19,400 –> 00:48:24,100
and choosing the course of some
World offense in, like this
811
00:48:24,100 –> 00:48:26,600
weird place where old men just
pee on the ground.
812
00:48:26,600 –> 00:48:32,800
But like, the ceremony itself is
not frightening at all.
813
00:48:32,800 –> 00:48:36,700
Oh, it were, I used to work for
an insurance company, that was
814
00:48:36,700 –> 00:48:41,500
owned by the Catholic church.
And when I started working there
815
00:48:41,500 –> 00:48:44,100
on the first day, they were
like, oh, oh, oh, Also, we kick
816
00:48:44,100 –> 00:48:47,500
off every meeting with a prayer
and sometimes you will be asked
817
00:48:47,500 –> 00:48:52,800
to lead that prayer and in that
moment I said, no, I won’t.
818
00:48:52,800 –> 00:48:55,900
I’m at work.
I’m not going to pray in
819
00:48:55,900 –> 00:48:59,500
meetings.
This ceremony feels like that
820
00:48:59,500 –> 00:49:04,000
person who gets tasked with
praying to open the meeting.
821
00:49:04,000 –> 00:49:07,600
They’re like, little I just want
to fucking come to Bohemian
822
00:49:07,600 –> 00:49:12,600
Grove and, you know, have sex
with what?
823
00:49:13,100 –> 00:49:14,200
Two women.
Sure.
824
00:49:14,200 –> 00:49:18,800
But now I’ve been tasked with
putting on the opening ceremony,
825
00:49:18,800 –> 00:49:24,500
it’s my year and I hate this.
Get the the camp itself is just
826
00:49:24,500 –> 00:49:29,300
North of San Francisco.
And Harry Shearer has talked
827
00:49:29,300 –> 00:49:32,400
about this.
The he was invited, like someone
828
00:49:32,800 –> 00:49:37,000
invited him to go to Bohemian
Grove once and he was so
829
00:49:37,000 –> 00:49:40,400
fascinated by his experience
that he actually made a movie
830
00:49:40,600 –> 00:49:42,600
that I’ve been pitching that we
should cover.
831
00:49:43,000 –> 00:49:47,300
Called Teddy Bears.
Picnic I’m all for it and he has
832
00:49:47,400 –> 00:49:52,000
like he says like he went with
someone who performed for the
833
00:49:52,000 –> 00:49:57,000
San Francisco Opera and so like
those like people from that
834
00:49:57,000 –> 00:49:59,000
Circle are getting invited to
this thing too.
835
00:49:59,000 –> 00:50:00,900
Is like a treat.
You know what I mean?
836
00:50:01,100 –> 00:50:04,000
Yeah.
So I imagine that’s the type of
837
00:50:04,200 –> 00:50:07,700
person who they’re picking to
like also do the ceremony.
838
00:50:07,900 –> 00:50:09,900
It’s got real theater kid
energy.
839
00:50:09,900 –> 00:50:10,800
Yeah.
Yeah.
840
00:50:10,800 –> 00:50:15,800
The ceremony for This one,
didn’t it had like a director
841
00:50:15,800 –> 00:50:19,700
credit, yes, on the pump on the
program, the fact that the
842
00:50:19,700 –> 00:50:22,700
bottom director, greipel low,
the burning dead body.
843
00:50:23,700 –> 00:50:28,300
So like how again, if they’re
handed Out programs.
844
00:50:28,400 –> 00:50:30,900
Yeah.
How fucking I bet we can go on
845
00:50:30,900 –> 00:50:35,400
eBay and buy a Bohemian Grove
program, a program.
846
00:50:35,400 –> 00:50:41,300
I, I bet I bet is like four
phone calls Max for one of us to
847
00:50:41,300 –> 00:50:44,800
get into bugging me.
And Grove to see the openings
848
00:50:44,800 –> 00:50:48,400
it’s probably like Club 33.
It Disney where it’s like?
849
00:50:48,400 –> 00:50:51,900
Yeah, I like if you give us 10
grand you can come in obviously
850
00:50:51,900 –> 00:50:54,000
exactly.
If you know somebody if you know
851
00:50:54,000 –> 00:50:58,800
who knows somebody or whatever.
Like as long as you fit in like
852
00:50:58,800 –> 00:51:02,500
I think that’s the that was the
biggest takeaway I had from all
853
00:51:02,500 –> 00:51:06,200
of this is that like everybody
there’s basically the same guy
854
00:51:06,200 –> 00:51:08,700
and I’ll just repeat it over and
over again.
855
00:51:09,000 –> 00:51:12,900
But like when you’re able to see
more of the area around, where
856
00:51:13,200 –> 00:51:16,800
They were filming the ceremony,
they’re just in a crowd of
857
00:51:16,800 –> 00:51:21,200
people like watching fireworks,
like it just was like a normal
858
00:51:21,600 –> 00:51:24,100
crowd.
It didn’t feel like that.
859
00:51:24,100 –> 00:51:28,400
Like, you feel like the really
famous people are probably have
860
00:51:28,400 –> 00:51:32,700
their own separate viewing area
for, you know, I bet there’s
861
00:51:32,700 –> 00:51:39,200
still a like a class strata
within the hyper was the.
862
00:51:39,400 –> 00:51:42,700
There’s a VIP Resort, sure,
right there.
863
00:51:43,000 –> 00:51:46,500
Has to be otherwise.
Why be so rich?
864
00:51:47,100 –> 00:51:51,300
And there’s I looked it up on
eBay, there is so much Bohemian
865
00:51:51,300 –> 00:51:54,700
Grove merch.
Yeah, our t-shirts, there are
866
00:51:54,700 –> 00:52:02,200
security badges, 1980, Bohemian,
Grove, staff, ID $30.
867
00:52:02,300 –> 00:52:05,200
That’s the thing is, it’s not
really a secret.
868
00:52:05,200 –> 00:52:08,200
That’s what’s so weird about the
whole Bohemian Grove thing and
869
00:52:08,200 –> 00:52:11,300
the guy I will never not find it
fascinating, no matter what
870
00:52:11,300 –> 00:52:16,400
actually is but It really is
just it just seems like no one
871
00:52:16,400 –> 00:52:18,400
really makes a big deal out of
it.
872
00:52:18,500 –> 00:52:21,600
They’re just like yeah we like
put on performances and we hang
873
00:52:21,600 –> 00:52:25,800
out and it’s just about Chillin.
I’m gonna buy this Bohemian
874
00:52:25,800 –> 00:52:29,500
Club.
Grove sesquicentennial Banner.
875
00:52:29,600 –> 00:52:36,700
It says Bohemian Grove 1872 to
2020 250 years and on the bottom
876
00:52:36,900 –> 00:52:41,700
it says weaving.
Spiders come not here and it is
877
00:52:42,200 –> 00:52:44,500
20.
Eighty-two dollars.
878
00:52:44,500 –> 00:52:49,100
And there are three available.
Do we both want one of these for
879
00:52:49,100 –> 00:52:54,300
our respective homes?
Because in I will buy that
880
00:52:54,300 –> 00:52:58,800
before we even and this podcast
without you even answering me.
881
00:52:58,900 –> 00:53:03,100
Hell yeah.
I’m not gonna not have a
882
00:53:03,100 –> 00:53:06,800
Bohemian Grove and it could be
an Etsy thing, but it doesn’t
883
00:53:06,800 –> 00:53:08,500
seem that secret.
That’s crazy.
884
00:53:08,500 –> 00:53:12,100
I bet it’s real, it’s happened
already this year, it happened.
885
00:53:12,300 –> 00:53:14,800
But they also Other ones.
That’s what it’s really like.
886
00:53:14,800 –> 00:53:17,300
The summer one is the one that
gets all the attention but
887
00:53:17,300 –> 00:53:20,800
apparently they do it in the
spring too or at least they do
888
00:53:20,800 –> 00:53:23,600
something similar.
It’s a business it’s like a
889
00:53:23,600 –> 00:53:27,200
place where pain is work and
they have to pay people.
890
00:53:27,700 –> 00:53:31,400
Yeah it’s not.
Yeah I really didn’t expect that
891
00:53:31,400 –> 00:53:37,300
outcome right from this
documentary but Alex Jones made
892
00:53:37,300 –> 00:53:41,800
me feel a whole lot better.
Yeah about oh he Mangrove he
893
00:53:41,800 –> 00:53:45,400
made a compelling case Maybe
that was what his overseers
894
00:53:45,400 –> 00:53:46,400
wanted.
Right?
895
00:53:46,500 –> 00:53:49,400
They they wanted us to be like,
no, this is actually cool.
896
00:53:49,500 –> 00:53:52,600
I actually to be clear, I don’t
think it’s cool.
897
00:53:53,000 –> 00:53:56,800
I want to be very clear mean.
You’ve made it pretty clear that
898
00:53:56,800 –> 00:54:00,900
you think what happens at
Bohemian Grove is cool?
899
00:54:01,100 –> 00:54:03,000
Well, I know, but I want to
clear this up.
900
00:54:03,200 –> 00:54:06,200
I really think it’s very dorky.
Like I think everybody goes
901
00:54:06,200 –> 00:54:10,200
there is a huge loser.
Yeah, it’s not that they don’t
902
00:54:10,200 –> 00:54:13,100
sign off on their ideas and
things.
903
00:54:13,100 –> 00:54:16,100
It’s just know.
I love moloch such nerds.
904
00:54:16,300 –> 00:54:19,300
I just think it’s very funny.
He talks about moloch.
905
00:54:19,300 –> 00:54:23,700
I bet if you said the word
Carthage to fucking Alex Jones,
906
00:54:23,700 –> 00:54:25,400
he wouldn’t know what you were
saying.
907
00:54:26,700 –> 00:54:29,700
Yeah, he doesn’t know what
fucking know anything about
908
00:54:29,700 –> 00:54:32,500
Carthage or human sacrifice
their shit.
909
00:54:33,200 –> 00:54:35,700
Oh it’s not letting me order
these banners.
910
00:54:35,700 –> 00:54:38,200
I’m going to get it figured out.
I’m gonna get it fixed.
911
00:54:38,300 –> 00:54:42,800
Figured out fucking government
work in a government man.
912
00:54:42,900 –> 00:54:45,400
They know they know we’re
talking about it.
913
00:54:45,400 –> 00:54:48,400
Yeah, they know we’re talking
about this but they did not
914
00:54:48,400 –> 00:54:51,100
know.
Alex Jones was parading around
915
00:54:51,100 –> 00:54:55,600
for three days in Bohemian Grove
Town, weight and infiltrate.
916
00:54:55,700 –> 00:54:58,100
Yeah, I mean, they definitely
knew he was there.
917
00:54:58,100 –> 00:55:02,800
He made a lot of noise, dr.
Bobby’s, a risky fucking win to
918
00:55:02,800 –> 00:55:05,400
the 7-Eleven and talk to that
guy with dreads.
919
00:55:05,400 –> 00:55:09,400
Like, like I Ruled have the
Declaration Independence on his
920
00:55:09,400 –> 00:55:13,300
T-shirt, it was funny.
So I think that’s our episode,
921
00:55:13,300 –> 00:55:14,400
right?
I think so.
922
00:55:14,400 –> 00:55:19,000
Yeah, this, well, I guess we
skipped over the part where Alex
923
00:55:19,000 –> 00:55:22,500
Jones it seems like it’s over
and then there’s a little shit.
924
00:55:22,500 –> 00:55:24,400
Yeah, we have to talk about
this.
925
00:55:24,400 –> 00:55:27,200
There’s a Lord of the Rings
moment where it seems like the
926
00:55:27,200 –> 00:55:32,500
documentary is over and then
just restarts and he goes well
927
00:55:32,500 –> 00:55:34,600
we’re going to confront George
Bush.
928
00:55:34,700 –> 00:55:37,000
Yeah.
And what he means is he’s going
929
00:55:37,000 –> 00:55:41,200
to stand the legally allowed
distance from where George Bush
930
00:55:41,200 –> 00:55:45,000
is and shouts across the street.
But he does like he’s like,
931
00:55:45,000 –> 00:55:48,600
yeah, like a few weeks after
they were there or like a week
932
00:55:48,600 –> 00:55:50,800
after they were there.
George Bush announced his
933
00:55:50,800 –> 00:55:55,600
running mate, was Dick Cheney at
Bohemian Grove which is crazy.
934
00:55:55,800 –> 00:55:59,300
That is weird.
And it also really weird, it
935
00:55:59,300 –> 00:56:04,700
buys into my whole theory behind
this documentary which is that
936
00:56:04,700 –> 00:56:09,400
this was the American government
want to instill some Trust in
937
00:56:09,400 –> 00:56:13,100
the international criminal court
because we knew we were about to
938
00:56:13,100 –> 00:56:16,400
fucking wreck the Middle East.
But also, you got to throw that
939
00:56:16,400 –> 00:56:20,800
tag on at the end but where Alex
Jones is like but no, I don’t
940
00:56:20,800 –> 00:56:23,200
like George Bush.
No, that’s not what this was
941
00:56:23,200 –> 00:56:26,600
about.
Well he’s like that was a king
942
00:56:26,600 –> 00:56:29,900
before the Tea Party you like
these kinds of right-wing
943
00:56:29,900 –> 00:56:33,200
Libertarians weren’t fans of the
Republicans.
944
00:56:33,200 –> 00:56:39,100
It’s a whole again we this is
like this is maybe the most Most
945
00:56:39,100 –> 00:56:43,800
pre 9/11 conspiracy theory
documentary that has ever been
946
00:56:43,800 –> 00:56:49,200
made because it was released in
like October of 2000 like a less
947
00:56:49,200 –> 00:56:53,900
than a year before 9/11 so, like
I can’t imagine another
948
00:56:54,300 –> 00:56:59,900
conspiracy theory documentary
being this much just that pre
949
00:56:59,900 –> 00:57:03,500
9/11 shit, which is so hard to
remember.
950
00:57:03,500 –> 00:57:06,900
Things have changed the
landscape has changed so
951
00:57:06,900 –> 00:57:12,700
drastically since Yeah, it’s an
interesting document.
952
00:57:12,700 –> 00:57:16,600
Yes, this documentary.
It is it’s worth watching.
953
00:57:16,600 –> 00:57:21,900
I yeah, like we we clearly have
strong feelings about it.
954
00:57:21,900 –> 00:57:25,000
Yeah, my main takeaway is still
that.
955
00:57:25,100 –> 00:57:29,000
I I expected to come away from
it far more suspicious of
956
00:57:29,000 –> 00:57:32,200
Bohemian Grove.
Yeah, now I’m just like, yeah,
957
00:57:32,200 –> 00:57:34,200
whatever.
It’s the fire Festival.
958
00:57:34,300 –> 00:57:38,100
Yes, it’s the fire Festival, if
the fire Festival worked.
959
00:57:38,500 –> 00:57:41,700
Yeah, if it was well, Ren.
Yeah, it’s what fire Fest wanted
960
00:57:41,700 –> 00:57:43,800
to be.
Yeah, there were a lot of shots
961
00:57:43,900 –> 00:57:48,300
like I went to the Virgin Music
Festival once and there’s a lot
962
00:57:48,300 –> 00:57:51,100
of shots where I was like, oh,
that’s what the Virgin Music
963
00:57:51,100 –> 00:57:54,500
Festival look like, it’s just
cut into the side of the forest
964
00:57:54,500 –> 00:57:57,000
and there’s like beer stands,
right?
965
00:57:57,000 –> 00:57:59,300
Yeah.
Like and you know like even that
966
00:57:59,300 –> 00:58:01,400
skull sign that they pointed
out.
967
00:58:01,400 –> 00:58:05,300
I’m like we’re talking about a
place that does a play with like
968
00:58:05,300 –> 00:58:07,800
Latin and shit and it but these
are dorks.
969
00:58:09,500 –> 00:58:12,200
Like they like that fucking
Renaissance you know you put a
970
00:58:12,200 –> 00:58:16,100
fucking skull in the painting in
order to evoke death or whatever
971
00:58:16,100 –> 00:58:22,100
like it’s all that 20-20-20
skullenbones shit like ivy
972
00:58:22,100 –> 00:58:26,300
league whatever?
Yeah it’s their larpers.
973
00:58:26,400 –> 00:58:29,100
Yes.
They’re just like their LARPing
974
00:58:29,100 –> 00:58:30,800
as Druids.
Yeah.
975
00:58:30,800 –> 00:58:34,900
Or like pay or like like you
know Bohemians like you know
976
00:58:34,900 –> 00:58:38,100
they’re like they’re LARPing is
people who you know.
977
00:58:38,300 –> 00:58:39,600
Have.
I don’t know.
978
00:58:39,600 –> 00:58:41,100
I don’t know.
It’s just weird.
979
00:58:41,100 –> 00:58:44,400
It’s a weird thing.
Would you go if they invited you
980
00:58:44,500 –> 00:58:48,200
if they invited me?
No probably not, no.
981
00:58:48,300 –> 00:58:50,100
Because I would that would feel
like a trap.
982
00:58:50,500 –> 00:58:53,500
Yeah.
If like if I knew someone who,
983
00:58:53,500 –> 00:58:56,000
you know, like like the Harry
Shearer thing, where it’s like,
984
00:58:56,100 –> 00:59:00,100
he’s friends with someone in the
fucking San Francisco Opera who
985
00:59:00,100 –> 00:59:03,500
is like hey you want to come?
See this crazy thing that I
986
00:59:03,500 –> 00:59:04,900
might do.
Yeah.
987
00:59:05,000 –> 00:59:08,100
But if I like got an invitation
and they’re like, hey you want
988
00:59:08,100 –> 00:59:11,500
to I’m check out our Bohemian
Grove come on.
989
00:59:11,600 –> 00:59:14,100
We’re free of at 8:00 here while
will pay for your playing.
990
00:59:14,100 –> 00:59:19,100
Just come on out, don’t pack?
Yeah, I think if I was like, not
991
00:59:19,100 –> 00:59:23,800
me if I was like my rich and
your, I just like started a
992
00:59:23,808 –> 00:59:27,600
fucking business and now I had
Untold sums of money and they
993
00:59:27,600 –> 00:59:32,200
invited me, then I’d go let me
see if this episode drops and
994
00:59:32,200 –> 00:59:34,900
then they invite me the next
day, right?
995
00:59:34,900 –> 00:59:36,600
I don’t know.
I don’t think so.
996
00:59:36,700 –> 00:59:38,100
I know, I definitely yeah, I
guess.
997
00:59:38,200 –> 00:59:42,000
If I were two totally different
person, if I were rich, I can
998
00:59:42,000 –> 00:59:43,700
only imagine what an awful
person.
999
00:59:43,700 –> 00:59:48,200
I would be I’d ask if I could
attend via Zoom socially
1000
00:59:48,200 –> 00:59:51,800
distance but I mean do you think
that was what they did in 2020?
1001
00:59:53,100 –> 00:59:56,300
Can I live sauce?
We need a sequel documentary.
1002
00:59:56,300 –> 00:59:58,500
That’s what we need.
Yeah, I want to find out about
1003
00:59:58,500 –> 01:00:03,300
that everyone’s watching.
Moloch get burned, but there’s
1004
01:00:03,300 –> 01:00:05,800
just a bank of TV screens with
people.
1005
01:00:05,800 –> 01:00:09,100
Yes, I have an MBA work.
During covid.
1006
01:00:09,100 –> 01:00:11,100
I get it.
Yeah, that’s great Zach, yeah.
1007
01:00:11,100 –> 01:00:12,800
Yeah, they’ve got a little
cardboard.
1008
01:00:12,800 –> 01:00:17,200
Like, cutouts of people with
like, dude, like an iPad on the
1009
01:00:17,200 –> 01:00:23,100
head pumpkin and crowd noise
people going.
1010
01:00:23,100 –> 01:00:28,700
Oh, at the fireworks, the
banner, I think there was a 2020
1011
01:00:28,700 –> 01:00:31,700
Banner on eBay.
We’re going to get some fucking
1012
01:00:31,700 –> 01:00:35,500
Bohemian Grove banners.
Yeah, Bobby lot more that’s
1013
01:00:35,500 –> 01:00:38,100
coming to your home.
There’s definitely more to say
1014
01:00:38,200 –> 01:00:41,500
About this.
Well, we’ll have to keep going.
1015
01:00:41,700 –> 01:00:45,800
Well, we should do a legitimate
Bohemian Grove episode about
1016
01:00:45,800 –> 01:00:49,600
like founding of it and things
of the like.
1017
01:00:49,600 –> 01:00:52,300
Yeah, but weird.
I mean, like, but it’s also
1018
01:00:52,300 –> 01:00:54,700
weird.
It’s weird in a rich person way.
1019
01:00:54,700 –> 01:00:58,100
It’s not weird, and like a
satanic cult way.
1020
01:00:58,400 –> 01:00:59,600
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
1021
01:00:59,600 –> 01:01:01,700
Like, have you ever been to a
rich person’s party?
1022
01:01:01,700 –> 01:01:05,900
The food is weird.
Like it’s yes, they don’t know
1023
01:01:05,900 –> 01:01:08,800
that you’re not people like not.
Us.
1024
01:01:08,900 –> 01:01:11,200
They’re not a yeah, things are
very good.
1025
01:01:11,200 –> 01:01:14,800
They have a totally different
understanding of reality when
1026
01:01:14,800 –> 01:01:17,600
you’re that wealthy.
Like it’s just a totally
1027
01:01:17,600 –> 01:01:18,700
different understanding.
I do.
1028
01:01:18,700 –> 01:01:22,900
I can’t comprehend it.
Yeah, the comparison I kept
1029
01:01:22,900 –> 01:01:26,900
coming up with in the notes for
Bohemian Grove, it’s like
1030
01:01:26,900 –> 01:01:29,200
burning man.
Like yeah, is anything that
1031
01:01:29,200 –> 01:01:33,200
happens at Burning Man?
Any less weird than what happens
1032
01:01:33,300 –> 01:01:35,300
at Bohemian Grove.
It’s just that.
1033
01:01:35,700 –> 01:01:40,200
Bohemian Grove is for the Ultra
rich and burning, man is for
1034
01:01:40,200 –> 01:01:44,700
like the medium Rich.
It’s yeah, it’s burning man for
1035
01:01:44,900 –> 01:01:49,800
wasps like old Rich.
Conservatives is like, well,
1036
01:01:49,800 –> 01:01:53,600
that’s what it is.
And it’s it’s just his dorky and
1037
01:01:53,600 –> 01:01:58,000
weird and as you would expect
from that description, yeah.
1038
01:01:58,000 –> 01:02:01,900
The CEO of a major Bank isn’t
going to be comfortable at
1039
01:02:01,900 –> 01:02:03,800
Burning Man.
No, no.
1040
01:02:03,900 –> 01:02:06,300
Because that’s all the lower.
One percent.
1041
01:02:06,400 –> 01:02:08,100
He needs to be with the upper
one.
1042
01:02:08,200 –> 01:02:12,000
Percent.
Yeah you might interact with a
1043
01:02:12,008 –> 01:02:14,300
poor person.
It’s man accidentally.
1044
01:02:14,600 –> 01:02:17,200
Well, they work their same as
Bohemian, right?
1045
01:02:17,200 –> 01:02:20,800
This is what I’m saying.
Like but that everybody works
1046
01:02:20,800 –> 01:02:22,100
it.
No, that’s not.
1047
01:02:22,100 –> 01:02:23,100
That’s probably not true.
I’m sure.
1048
01:02:23,100 –> 01:02:24,500
There are poor people who work
it.
1049
01:02:24,500 –> 01:02:27,400
Binding Groove.
I do like the part at the end
1050
01:02:27,400 –> 01:02:30,800
where Alex Jones calls.
George Bush.
1051
01:02:31,000 –> 01:02:33,500
A luciferian twit.
Yeah.
1052
01:02:33,500 –> 01:02:35,900
Liked it.
Yeah, I enjoy.
1053
01:02:35,900 –> 01:02:40,800
He’s like walking around, Texas.
Us with like someone in a robe,
1054
01:02:40,800 –> 01:02:44,300
a black robe with a rubber,
George Bush, mask on, and he’s
1055
01:02:44,300 –> 01:02:46,500
got a bullhorn, he’s like, stay
as he’s.
1056
01:02:46,500 –> 01:02:50,900
Like, there’s just how George
Bush dresses at Bohemian, Grove
1057
01:02:52,700 –> 01:02:57,900
like, that is gonna be the thing
that people are, like, what?
1058
01:02:58,900 –> 01:03:02,900
There’s a robe.
Yeah, like, he’s like, but it’s
1059
01:03:02,900 –> 01:03:05,400
not like this.
It’s more like a clan robe and
1060
01:03:05,400 –> 01:03:08,100
it’s like a man.
Does he you think they’re making
1061
01:03:08,200 –> 01:03:11,600
George Bush participate in the
burning of the owl.
1062
01:03:11,600 –> 01:03:14,100
Know he’s the one standing on
the other side of the water
1063
01:03:14,100 –> 01:03:16,600
going, that’s pretty.
Yeah.
1064
01:03:17,000 –> 01:03:20,200
Maybe but also like I’m in
another TV on he was in like
1065
01:03:20,200 –> 01:03:22,900
Skull and Bones and shit.
And I think for these people
1066
01:03:22,900 –> 01:03:27,900
like participating in the ritual
as part of the thing even then I
1067
01:03:27,908 –> 01:03:30,300
guarantee and skull and bones.
He was the guy in the back of
1068
01:03:30,300 –> 01:03:31,800
the room going.
That’s pretty.
1069
01:03:31,900 –> 01:03:36,200
Yeah, I mean, I’m sure George
Bush was mostly it’s going bodes
1070
01:03:36,400 –> 01:03:39,100
to get hammered.
That’s Basically, my
1071
01:03:39,100 –> 01:03:42,000
understanding of George, Bush’s
a young man.
1072
01:03:42,200 –> 01:03:44,700
So I think that’s our episode,
right?
1073
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You did it.
I think so we got it.
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01:03:46,600 –> 01:03:49,400
All covered will link to this
documentary for everyone who
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01:03:49,400 –> 01:03:51,300
wants to watch it.
I know that’s all of you,
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01:03:52,200 –> 01:03:55,800
Olivia, do we have anything to
plug before we get out of here?
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No.
Going back.
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01:03:57,700 –> 01:04:02,400
Our last podcast truck and run
along like halfway through
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01:04:02,400 –> 01:04:05,700
season one so that’s fun.
Other than that though, check
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01:04:05,700 –> 01:04:10,300
that out on wherever you go.
A bonus episodes of conspiracy
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01:04:10,300 –> 01:04:13,500
the show and it will be out for
free soon.
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01:04:13,500 –> 01:04:15,500
So you can listen to it that way
too.
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01:04:16,600 –> 01:04:20,000
I would like to plug Adam, Todd
Brown, dotsub stack.com.
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01:04:20,100 –> 01:04:23,600
I don’t know how many people
listening to this podcast know,
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01:04:23,600 –> 01:04:27,900
but I started out as a writer
for a website called
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01:04:27,900 –> 01:04:31,800
cracked.com, and I was kind of
like thrust into doing podcast
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01:04:31,800 –> 01:04:35,400
for a living, and I have finally
found time to start writing
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01:04:35,400 –> 01:04:38,600
again.
So, you can read Read my
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01:04:38,600 –> 01:04:42,100
writings at Adam, Todd Brown
dotsub stack.com.
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01:04:42,300 –> 01:04:46,600
I got an article up about
whether America is descending
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01:04:46,600 –> 01:04:50,600
into fascism and here’s the
thing, no, we’re not no matter
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01:04:50,600 –> 01:04:53,700
what anyone tells you we’ve been
fascist this whole time.
1093
01:04:53,800 –> 01:04:56,600
Yeah.
So ending it’s the verb uses the
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01:04:56,600 –> 01:04:57,200
from.
Yeah.
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01:04:57,800 –> 01:05:00,800
Yeah, exactly.
So check all that out.
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01:05:00,800 –> 01:05:03,100
I would appreciate it and I
think that’s it.
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01:05:03,100 –> 01:05:05,400
Lets get out of here.
Olivia say goodbye.
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Bye.
Goodbye everybody.
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We love you.
People of Earth.

