Conspiracy! The Show 186: The Jesse Ventura They Don’t Want You To See Pt. 9 – HAARP

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Which of the transparent you?
This whole upper chest?

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Hey, everybody.
Welcome to conspiracy the show.

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I’m Adam Todd Brown.
Who are you?

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I’m Olivia hide our, and we are
your hosts.

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I did a solo episode last week.
So cold, and lonely here in the

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studio.
Olivia’s back, Olivia.

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Hey, it’s me.
How was your trip to the West

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Coast?
It was, it was lovely.

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I mean, yeah, it was exhausting
because it was mostly work, but

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it was a lot of fun.
I got to see you.

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Yeah, we did an episode that was
fun.

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Then I bought a bunch of weeds
and I smoked it back to Indiana

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which is which is fun.
Don’t tell the TSA.

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But yeah, how much did you get
back to Indiana?

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3 oz, not bad.
Wow.

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Yeah.
So what are we talking about

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this week?
Mmm, Chuck your pets for Tex.

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Oh, Jesse talking about Jesse
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researchers, and support staff
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archives.
Looking for.

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More evidence that an active
cover-up is keeping the world

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from seeing every single episode
of Conspiracy Theory with Jesse

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Ventura.
Like God, intended gonna and you

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won’t believe what they found.
We found two more episodes that

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Robo to holy shit.
Yeah, there’s there’s two more

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episodes that are just banned
their band.

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Yeah.
From the from the world.

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If you go totally, if you go on
Amazon, it says currently

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unavailable.
And if they’re not on Amazon,

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where the fuck are they?
Yeah, I know exactly.

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There’s where else do you even
buy, like, episodes of TV?

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Where do you buy things besides
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Yeah, like grocery stores.
What’s that?

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Yeah, never heard of them.
So we already covered.

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Into the highly band second
season.

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Yes of Conspiracy Theory with
Jesse Ventura.

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So now we’re going to cover
these two straggler episodes

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that for some reason.
Are also, unavailable are I feel

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like we should speculate on?
Why these episodes are banned on

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this first one.
I think it’s just because all of

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this is true.
Ha ha ha.

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Oh boy.
Oh boy.

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That’s my, that is my main.
Main thanking here.

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Are you in?
Or are you not a harp believer?

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No, no, not really.
Especially not based on what

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just presented in this episode.
What that’s the thing.

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It’s one thing for a conspiracy
theory to be believable and it’s

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a whole other thing for Jesse
Ventura to deliver it in a

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believable way, right?
Yeah, because this is a theory

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that I think there’s a good deal
of actual evidence that it’s

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not.
I mean, I don’t think it has To

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work exactly the way people
think it works, right?

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Governments doing something else
with HAARP than what they say.

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I mean, look, I’ve said this in
the past when it comes when I’m

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ramping up to being skeptical
about whatever the subject of an

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episode is, but, like, look, I
am not here to like claim that

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the government could not
possibly do the things that’s

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being accused of as far as harp
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I was like, well, okay.
I am going to say that the

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government is not controlling,
whether that’s the thing.

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I’m just going to come down hard
on and say that’s not happening

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and a if I’m an idiot later on,
okay, but that just that doesn’t

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work for me.
But as far as all the stuff

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about mind control and stuff
that’s happening in this

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episode.
Like look maybe like I wouldn’t

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be shocked if I was told that
that was actually happening.

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But like see I’m hiding from
maybe on the weather.

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And less on the mind control
because well like manipulating

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the weather isn’t science.
Fiction.

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Like there’s a thing called
cloud seeding.

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Granted cloud seeding is sort of
the basis of Snowpiercer.

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But yeah, it’s eating existed
before Snowpiercer.

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Yeah, but also been done but
like cloud seeding is a is not

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it’s not the same thing.
But if yeah relating the way it

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is, but it’s on such a smaller
scale than what’s being.

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Not even in this episode than in
then like conspiracy theories.

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Broadly Claim about what how
harp is manipulating the weather

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in which like, which is kind of
thinking about technically what

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like what HAARP is even doing as
like, you know, it’s got this

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very large, we should talk about
what HAARP even is honestly

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because people might not know
what we’re talking about.

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Yeah it and for the record we
did an episode about this.

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We should probably redo it.
Because I feel like once I get

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like a year or two removed from
something.

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I’ve put out like it’s like
looking at a picture of myself

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with big ears or something.
Yeah, I’m like man I could have

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done so I I’m a mess.
Like I need to do that better

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and I feel like I should redo
the harp episode at some point,

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but we do have an episode out
there about HAARP.

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It’s an acronym that means high
frequency active, auroral

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research.
Program Huff, ARP.

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If you want to be more precise,
I get where they, why they

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shortened it to heart.
It is when it’s hyphenated.

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I don’t think you usually.
Yeah, true.

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The world’s most capable high
power high frequency transmitter

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for study of the ionosphere.
It’s basically a big field of

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antennas there each like 72 feet
tall, right?

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And what the government claims
is that they’re pointing at the

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ion.
Fear to track the weather.

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Yes, and there are critics out
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used for other things.
Be it to control the weather, to

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manipulate the minds of the
masses like Mass mind control.

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Right.
Is a thing that they say this is

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capable of and again, if you
watch this episode and you don’t

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have any other prior knowledge
of heart, the governor is not

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going to sell you on it.
Probably he doesn’t he’s not

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good at selling any Theory.
Really not really.

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Yeah.
No, I like the closest he comes

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is when he falls backwards
basically into a real thing that

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exists and is actually like
hurting the world like with the

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banks like we did the episode
about Wall Street and that sort

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of thing like there.
He’s like found a real thing

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that sucks and he’s bringing
attention to it and it actually

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his like weird upfront Style.
Actually, you know, gets to some

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really interesting truths, but I
would say in this case he is

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mostly just kind of going along
with a as usual with what

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everybody tells him and just
believing everything.

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I should have had you listened
to the episode before this

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because the device in question
or the idea that harp would be

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able to do what people say it
would be able to do like they

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touch on it a little bit in this
episode, but the guy Guy who

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developed HAARP worked for the
Reagan Administration and it’s

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working specifically on missile
defense systems.

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And that’s what he patented this
as like, that’s what he invented

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this as was a thing that could
be used to one manipulate the

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weather and to act as a defense
against missile attacks in the

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United States.
So, yeah, the the short version

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is people think the government’s
using this as a weapon.

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Been to cause natural disasters.
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of this theory is that this
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viable missile defense system.
And I get why the government

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would be like, yeah, fucking
control the weather, believe

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whatever I want.
It’s fine because there’s that

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like, there’s, there’s no way if
this is actually a missile

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defense system.
The American government is going

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to be like and here’s our
beautiful missile defense

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system, right?
Or like Likes of which No Other

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Nation possesses, right?
But it’s also possible that like

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the whole missile defense thing
was basically just what this

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guy, you know, talk about Ted
Stevens, Ted Stevens, Ted’s.

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Well, Ted Stevens was the guy,
the Republican senator, who

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helped push the the project
through in the Senate.

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No, there’s a guy named Bernard
eastlund, Bernard, eastlund.

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Okay, but I mean, it’s also
possible that it’s just, they

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want money for Alaska and now
They’re using it for like

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whatever.
They’re shooting things in like

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radio waves into the ionosphere
whatever but yeah, like it could

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also be a missile defense.
I find both of those things like

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reasons, way more compelling
than weather control simply

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because that would take so much
energy and we would know we

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would notice other places would
notice like so much.

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Well, it’s one of those things
where there are people who claim

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they have Visual Evidence.
Of this happening.

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And then it’s a matter of.
Do you believe that like, to me

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that comes down to like, UFOs?
Like sure, you can guess you

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hear people who are so vehement
lie against UFOs, who are like,

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well, where’s the evidence?
It’s like people fucking post it

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all the time and you don’t
believe it because it’s not Bush

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telling you that it’s UFOs,
right?

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Well II.
But like, but what is this is a

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whole separate conversation.
But like what does Visual

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Evidence even mean when we’re
talking about something that

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uses?
Visible energy to cause changes

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in the atmosphere, the example
they use.

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Now.
I’m getting my wires crossed as

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to whether this comes up in this
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documentary about HARP, but the
example they use this changes in

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the northern lights and Aurora
Borealis.

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If you’re a science nerd like me
and Olivia, right?

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Of course, yeah.
Huge science nerds, big car

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people to yeah, absolutely
tonic.

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Spect that huge car, but that’s
the thing.

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They cite is well, when this is
operating and the Aurora

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Borealis is different, then they
tie it to different natural

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disasters.
I still think the weather is, I

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mean, I think it’s more
plausible than mine control, but

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I still think it’s usually
missile defense.

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System is the most plausible X.
Yeah, I think that’s the things.

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Like it’s what I want it to be.
That’s for damn.

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Sure.
I mean, it makes sense on a And

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many different levels,
especially if it was built

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during the Cold War.
It makes sense.

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Then my it would be built in
Alaska.

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Like it just kind of all.
Yeah, you know, ties together

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very nicely whereas and, you
know, we’ll get into this much

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deeper as we get further into
the episode.

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But like the reason, I lean more
towards mind control is a

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slightly like barely more
plausible than, than weather

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control is just because we know
the government’s tried to do it,

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but for and the government
doesn’t really try on large

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scale weather, can has never
really tested that before.

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As far as you know, we don’t
have any records of parents.

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That’s as far as we know.
Sure.

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It had their way.
We wouldn’t know that they tried

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out mind control.
You won’t.

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Right.
I know but also we do know like

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and that was because they
Declassified it because didn’t

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work or at least didn’t work in
that way.

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Well, no, we don’t we don’t know
about the mind control because

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they Declassified it we know
about it because The church

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committee hearings and because a
few documents got wild in the

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wrong no place.
Otherwise that would have died

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with history.
But with this there are some

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weird government ties to it.
Like one of the things that

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comes up, I don’t think in the
episode but in the the theory in

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general is that there are Air
Force documents out there that

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are like, well one of the things
we’re really interested in is,

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can you control the weather for
right military purposes?

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And there was a point in history
when the website for harp very

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specifically said that.
And I think I link to this in

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the notes, but it very
specifically said that one of

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its purposes was for defense and
for studying the weather for

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defense purposes, and they
eventually just took that part

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out of the description on the
website and never really

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explained why.
So there is some suggestion that

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at some point at least in the
past the government viewed.

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This as a thing that could be
used for defense or War cheering

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purposes in Sutter way.
So yeah, which tracks with

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missile defense it does.
Yeah that again that’s what I

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want it to be this Theory, all
centers around a thing called

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the Eastland patent.
It was developed by a guy named

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Bernard eastlund will link in
the show notes to a clip of him

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talking about this device on ER,
in 1988, and he in that

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interview, they asked him if
this is a thing that could be

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used for defense purposes, or if
the Pentagon has reached out to

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him about that and he just
straight up, says, yes, the

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Pentagon has reached out to me
about that.

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But I cannot disclose the nature
of that contact.

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So there’s that too.
But the sticking point is that

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the official hat Aunt calls for
a single beam of energy.

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You would fire into the
ionosphere and that is how you

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would manipulate the weather.
And what the government’s line

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has always been is we don’t have
a single beam that powerful.

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We have 180 far less powerful
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It says for the weather or does
it is this talking about for

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missile defense in?
What do you mean this beam?

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I guess I lost four.
We’re in the Hatton.

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It’s right.
Yeah single beam and it’s for

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here’s the thing.
It’s for both like he pitches it

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as I think writing the patent as
a thing that could both control

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the weather and act as a missile
defense thing and he cites a

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Nikola Tesla.
I don’t know if it was a patent

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but plan their Tesla had for a
similar thing that would

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manipulate weather.
Right?

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And the government’s defense has
always been well.

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Yeah, what’s in the patent would
work but it’s a single beam and

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we have 180 beams and in this
CBC.

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That will link to someone gets
access to a government,

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basically operation manual about
HARP.

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And it very explicitly says that
all 180 of those beams can be

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concentrated into one much
stronger mean beam.

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Sure.
Well, no, they sure.

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But the government denies that,
when people ask them about it,

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they’re like no.
I mean, I’m sure from the point

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of view of someone who doesn’t
know shit about how any of that

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would work is the same.
And this is the problem with a

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lot of this stuff is like, you
know, it’s a lot of people who

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aren’t scientists mostly or at
least not in this specialty like

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claiming a bunch of stuff that I
don’t know.

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It’s a big, it’s a big ask and
like even though the patent

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might mention stuff about
whether control that doesn’t

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mean that, that, that is any
real basis in like reality, as

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long as the mechanisms are
accurate.

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Like, it doesn’t, the outcome
isn’t really necessary.

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Yeah.
But the person who is most

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adamant that it can be used for
that as the scientist who

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developed it right before it
existed like, you know, so like

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HAARP exist like they but he
filed his patent in 1988 and

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they pretty much started working
on, right, building it right

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after that.
That’s what I’m saying though,

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like before it was built before,
you know, like I just say it,

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there’s not a lot.
I don’t know.

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Yeah.
I just don’t know if the

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government would have pumped
that much.

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Much money and effort into it if
there wasn’t some science behind

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it, but I don’t know.
So I don’t know.

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There’s a lot of stuff going on
here and I’m obviously no expert

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and like so I don’t want to talk
out my ass.

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It’s just that I I’m going to
need even I’m good.

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I know that this is a like
whatever cop out but I just have

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good to need some pretty
hardcore evidence.

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Like hardcore evidence to prove
that the the weather is being

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manipulated.
I just I’m going to need that.

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And I can’t really do anything
II.

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Just that’s what my like I said,
my I still think it’s most

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likely that it’s a missile
defense thing.

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I think that makes the most
sense.

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That’s also not a thing.
The government is up front

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about, right.
It’s more.

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A question of is harp just a
thing that studies the weather

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or is it a thing that does
something else, right?

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And I think there’s a good
chance.

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It does something else.
It just it seems like a lot of

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effort just to monitor the
weather.

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Like I don’t know why you
couldn’t put that somewhere less

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remote well because I there’s
remote and then there’s where

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harp is.
Well, right, but also, I mean I

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would guess and look again.
We’re not a I’m not an expert.

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But a lot of these things like
the very large array in New

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Mexico.
They need Open Spaces in order

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to function properly.
They can’t Around a lot of

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interference, especially if
we’re talking about radio

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signals, then it’s going to want
to be in a remote place so that

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there’s a lot of radio
interference regardless.

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Yeah, I get that but still like
this is this is what I’m like

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when civilization collapses 500
years from now or five hundred

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years after wow, that’s
archaeologists are going to find

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harp and be like, what the fuck
was this?

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It is going to be the Stonehenge
of there.

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That day.
Well, I was gonna say, I mean,

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like, that’s fair and like, I
agree obviously, except for it

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won’t be nearly as durable as
Stonehenge because it’s made out

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of metal is going to rust.
But or, you know, at least wow.

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Now who’s the scientist?
I’m just saying.

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And also like we have a lot of
archaeological like artifacts

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that we have today.
We were like, what the fuck is

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this being used?
For?

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I don’t understand this at all,
and, you know, That’s, of

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course, it’ll happen.
I hope it does.

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I’ll be funny.
Yeah, but like the thing that

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this just, that harp always
reminds me of and I mentioned,

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it was is the very large array
in New Mexico, which is a very

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creepy installation.
A very weird looking thing.

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If you are just looking at it
without knowing any of the

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context for why it exists and
why it looks the way it does.

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And you know, I think that it’s
very easy for that to be similar

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thing that’s happening here
where we get all very weird

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thing that kind of Looks like a
like, if you see a picture of

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it, it kind of looks like, like
a surrealist, like power plant

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or something.
Like, I don’t know.

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Like it’s very odd.
Yeah, Tesla would come up with?

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Yeah, a little bit, a little
bit, but also, like should we is

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it partially is?
Yeah, I mean, but yeah, anyway,

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it’s a weird thing.
So I get way of bunch of people

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would be like, coming up with
like reasons why it might be so

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creepy.
So, let’s get into this episode.

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Yes, please.
Oh, here we go.

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It’s on Dailymotion.
You got to know how to

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manipulate the internet.
Just like, in the show notes

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will link to it.
I was very nervous right away

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because the lip sync in the
intro of this episode is

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approximately the quality of a
kung fu movie.

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Okay?
I’m glad that it wasn’t just me.

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Okay, that’s good.
Yeah, I was scared that was

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going to carry on the whole time
and that would have been that

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would have this would have
turned into an audio episode.

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Oh, Dove Conspiracy Theory with
Jesse Ventura because I wouldn’t

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have been able to watch.
It would have been tough and I

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will.
But I did want to say, I wanted

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to read the description from the
from the Daily Motion Channel.

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I took a screenshot of it go
forth.

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I was very funny, here is the
best documentary on control mind

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made with EMP and radio
frequency and how to walk a path

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to defense against it.
What?

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Yeah, it is.
Almost none of those things.

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No, it’s definitely not a
documentary, just so that’s

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pisode of a true TV show.
Yeah, TR U TV, the name of the

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network, the right, of course,
of course, not that.

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This is the essence of
Television.

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This is true television has.
This is what television was made

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to be.
Exactly.

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So the governor he gets a call
from a guy named Jerry Smith.

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If that is your real name.
Oh, And they meet at a bar in

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st.
Paul.

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Great City.
Absolutely.

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The guy he’s meeting with as an
author of a book about how harp

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is secretly a weapon and I don’t
get why they play this up.

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Like Jesse has no idea what
they’re meeting about.

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Yeah, like you’re meeting a guy
who wrote a book about HARP on

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the harp episode of your shirt.
Roxy fucking cut the drama.

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Yeah.
Well, this was an early one,

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right?
This is one that got yes.

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And season 1 episode 2, they
came to came out of the gates

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hot.
Yeah, maybe he’s like, they’re

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still I have figuring out the
format of the show a little bit.

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That explains a lot of stuff.
Yeah, the next episode we’re

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going to cover its way at the
other end of the spectrum.

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It’s from season 3.
And I would argue.

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It’s worse.
This show, in terms of

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production, gets worse as it
carries on, right?

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Yes.
This was like, this was the,

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this was the golden years, huh?
This was the Glory Days of can

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see ya?
See Theory.

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I must call it conspiracy, the
show.

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Hey, we should get Jesse Ventura
to host this.

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Look and kick back and chill.
Do the research.

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I’ve said it before, I would
like to smoke weed with Jesse

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Ventura.
So I definitely would like to do

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that.
I would be into it.

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Yeah, he’s one of the few guests
that I would just let, come on

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and rambled Joe style.
At least for a little while.

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If actually I’d get high enough
and I’d be like, all right.

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No, that’s enough. 9/11 was not
Holograms.

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Yeah.
No Trump had a good president.

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Oh, yeah, is he?
Okay?

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Yeah, nevermind key might be.
Well, then, I rescind my

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invitation to smoke weed with
me, but I would like to play the

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game where I try to see what I
can get him to believe.

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Like well, yeah, just like
straight face come up with the

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most insane Theory I could think
of like did you know the

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government uses unicorns to give
vaccines?

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Yes, and like he’d be like
that’s that’s interesting.

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I had never heard that theory
before.

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You have any evidence to back
that up?

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And I would say, yes, Jesse.
I do.

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I have these papers.
Oh, I wouldn’t even say that.

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I’d be like, yeah.
Sources told me.

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Oh, that’s a good call.
And he’d be like, holy shit

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sources.
Fuck situation has wait.

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Did you say horses or sources
sources?

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Jesse not horses.
So The lip-sync ends up being

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fine.
Yeah, it’s fine.

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It’s fine.
It’s fine.

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I was happy about that.
Jesse.

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He goes to meet Jerry Smith.
Jerry gives a really basic

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rundown of harp.
He gets the number of beams.

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Wrong says the 360 and it’s
actually everyone else always

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says 180, but I don’t know.
And he says they can all

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consolidate into one.
They don’t dwell on that.

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But that is actually a point of
contention, right?

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One side says, no, they can’t.
The other side says yeah, they

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can.
Yeah, that’s kind of the the

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crew.
Of the issue if they can then

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this is the Eastman patent and
if they can’t right then it’s

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not.
So He suggests that this is at

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least in part A ground-based
Star Wars, defense system and

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that I can see but I could also
see it being a may be obsolete.

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Ground defense system by now.
Right now.

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We’re fucking with hypersonic
weapons.

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Those may be a whole different
thing because at one point the

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government Did Han this control
of this from the air force over

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to like fucking Baltimore parks
department or something weird?

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Yeah.
Yeah.

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The idea of it being like
now-defunct as a military

435
00:25:36,600 –> 00:25:40,700
operation also fits with how
they have been operating

436
00:25:40,700 –> 00:25:43,200
recently where they’ve been
doing like, open houses and

437
00:25:43,200 –> 00:25:47,700
stuff and letting people in like
if I do an open house every two

438
00:25:47,700 –> 00:25:50,200
years or at least that’s what
they said in the episode.

439
00:25:50,200 –> 00:25:52,600
I don’t know if that, I think
it’s every year now.

440
00:25:52,700 –> 00:25:53,800
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.

441
00:25:54,100 –> 00:25:57,200
We got whatever meanings we got.
I would love it.

442
00:25:57,300 –> 00:26:01,000
Yeah, I would I would I would
hop on an Alaskan cruise.

443
00:26:01,300 –> 00:26:05,100
Yeah, and then I’m sure harp is
easy to get to from them.

444
00:26:05,300 –> 00:26:07,400
Absolutely.
I’m sure it’s real easy to get

445
00:26:07,400 –> 00:26:08,700
to.
Yeah, you probably have to be

446
00:26:08,700 –> 00:26:12,400
smuggled to it.
I can’t even just go there.

447
00:26:12,500 –> 00:26:16,900
I’m gonna write on a tornado.
So he talks a little bit about

448
00:26:16,900 –> 00:26:21,200
how harp eventually falls into
military hands.

449
00:26:21,200 –> 00:26:23,700
That sort of the the way he puts
it.

450
00:26:24,200 –> 00:26:26,800
And He suggests.
It’s a ground-based Star Wars

451
00:26:26,800 –> 00:26:30,400
defense type system.
But he’s also the one who says

452
00:26:30,400 –> 00:26:33,800
that it operates on the same
frequency that brainwaves

453
00:26:33,800 –> 00:26:35,800
operate on, right?
Meaning.

454
00:26:35,800 –> 00:26:40,900
It’s also capable of large-scale
mind control and it’s like this

455
00:26:40,900 –> 00:26:45,800
is some infomercial shit.
Yeah, like what else can it do,

456
00:26:46,200 –> 00:26:47,800
right?
Well, this is the thing.

457
00:26:47,800 –> 00:26:51,800
And again, this is where I get
into the weeds with like there

458
00:26:51,800 –> 00:26:55,000
are way too many theories.
He’s about this thing.

459
00:26:55,000 –> 00:26:57,100
It can’t be all of them.
I’m sorry.

460
00:26:57,100 –> 00:27:01,600
It wasn’t 100% agree with that.
It can’t be mine, control and

461
00:27:01,600 –> 00:27:04,800
weather and everything else.
I’m and also a prized we

462
00:27:04,800 –> 00:27:09,800
disagree on the most unlikely of
the three because I right.

463
00:27:09,800 –> 00:27:11,100
Yes.
Yeah, sure.

464
00:27:11,200 –> 00:27:12,700
That we would both agree.
Mind.

465
00:27:12,700 –> 00:27:15,600
Control is the least likely but
no.

466
00:27:15,600 –> 00:27:18,700
Yeah.
No, I mean, look again, but we

467
00:27:18,700 –> 00:27:22,300
all get back into it but no no,
but he is the thing is like I

468
00:27:22,300 –> 00:27:26,300
really feel like I don’t know
about the quote-unquote

469
00:27:26,300 –> 00:27:29,200
frequency that the human brain
is on.

470
00:27:29,200 –> 00:27:32,400
I don’t know what that really
means in this context.

471
00:27:32,400 –> 00:27:36,300
But also, if there is a radio
frequency that the human brain

472
00:27:36,500 –> 00:27:41,500
operates on, it seems like that
would be a bad frequency to do

473
00:27:41,500 –> 00:27:45,400
other stuff on just because it’s
good.

474
00:27:45,400 –> 00:27:48,100
You’re going to have a hard time
operating that equipment.

475
00:27:48,100 –> 00:27:53,700
I feel like sure if you are like
working at this.

476
00:27:53,900 –> 00:27:57,300
Station that blasts the same
brain.

477
00:27:57,300 –> 00:28:01,000
Frequency is you.
I feel the same way about people

478
00:28:01,000 –> 00:28:04,500
who are like, whoa, 5G.
Technology is used to spread

479
00:28:04,500 –> 00:28:06,500
covid.
It’s like, well, then everyone

480
00:28:06,500 –> 00:28:09,200
who installs 5G.
Technology would have covid.

481
00:28:09,200 –> 00:28:14,400
That’s a, I’d not heard that
specific covid.

482
00:28:14,400 –> 00:28:17,400
It was here only one.
It was an early add because

483
00:28:17,400 –> 00:28:21,400
people were like, well, it
coincided with 5G internet being

484
00:28:21,400 –> 00:28:25,600
released in Wuhan, and it’s like
it, Also coincided with it being

485
00:28:25,600 –> 00:28:28,500
released in like nine other
cities in China.

486
00:28:28,500 –> 00:28:33,900
That is no, any case is a covid.
So like okay, it’s just a bit

487
00:28:33,900 –> 00:28:37,200
like how the fuck is 5G supposed
to transmit a virus.

488
00:28:38,200 –> 00:28:43,000
I don’t understand that at all.
I’m sorry.

489
00:28:43,000 –> 00:28:44,800
I’m Dino, that were way off
topic.

490
00:28:44,800 –> 00:28:46,900
It’s not just grandparents
internet.

491
00:28:46,900 –> 00:28:51,200
Olivia.
Oh my God, welcome to the

492
00:28:51,200 –> 00:28:53,600
meadow.
You know what maybe I do?

493
00:28:53,800 –> 00:28:56,400
Like how do you not believe that
we’re like mine kids?

494
00:28:56,400 –> 00:28:58,700
Like where is turning a stupid
or some shit?

495
00:28:58,700 –> 00:29:02,600
Like come on, I do I think it’s
just on the internet.

496
00:29:02,900 –> 00:29:06,400
Well, this is the thing.
Yeah again for I just want to

497
00:29:06,400 –> 00:29:08,100
say before we get into the
people.

498
00:29:08,100 –> 00:29:09,200
We’re going to have a team
meeting.

499
00:29:09,200 –> 00:29:11,500
But before we get into the
people that they talked to in

500
00:29:11,500 –> 00:29:14,200
this episode, I just want to say
really bum me.

501
00:29:14,200 –> 00:29:16,900
The fuck out watching this
episode from that thing going

502
00:29:16,900 –> 00:29:21,600
because these people are very
they make me very sad because

503
00:29:21,600 –> 00:29:25,000
they are going through a lot.
Well you have a The experts, he

504
00:29:25,000 –> 00:29:29,100
tracks down in a lot of cases.
It’s like, oh, this is a good

505
00:29:29,100 –> 00:29:31,800
television.
This isn’t know that he

506
00:29:32,000 –> 00:29:35,300
production right now.
Yeah, but first, it’s time for a

507
00:29:35,300 –> 00:29:37,300
team meeting.
Of course, of course, team

508
00:29:37,300 –> 00:29:39,700
meeting time.
June sarpong says, she has

509
00:29:39,700 –> 00:29:42,800
tracked down a physicist who
says, harp does exactly what

510
00:29:42,800 –> 00:29:45,700
people say it can do.
And he’s going to perform an

511
00:29:45,700 –> 00:29:47,800
experiment to prove it.
Mmm.

512
00:29:48,100 –> 00:29:51,900
It’s an interesting experiment.
Well, yeah, and it’s interesting

513
00:29:51,900 –> 00:29:54,800
because people say it can do.
Multiple things.

514
00:29:54,800 –> 00:29:56,900
So yeah.
Yeah, that’s a no which one

515
00:29:56,900 –> 00:29:59,000
experiments in this that I’m
very skeptical of.

516
00:29:59,000 –> 00:30:00,900
I’m like, this isn’t really
proving what you?

517
00:30:00,900 –> 00:30:03,400
Yeah.
What you think it’s proven?

518
00:30:03,400 –> 00:30:09,100
Yeah, and it seems like they’re,
they’re suggesting that it

519
00:30:09,100 –> 00:30:10,400
doesn’t seem like they’re
suggesting.

520
00:30:10,400 –> 00:30:14,300
They are suggesting that that
huge tsunami in Indonesia in

521
00:30:14,300 –> 00:30:17,800
right. 2003-2005.
Something like that.

522
00:30:17,800 –> 00:30:18,900
Yeah.
And mid-2000s.

523
00:30:18,900 –> 00:30:23,700
Yeah, that that was caused by
harp and Alex the skeptic pipes.

524
00:30:23,900 –> 00:30:25,700
Up and is like, why would they
do that?

525
00:30:27,300 –> 00:30:31,100
And it’s either Jesse Ventura or
June is like, dude.

526
00:30:31,100 –> 00:30:33,400
Maybe it was an accident.
Maybe they were just test it out

527
00:30:33,400 –> 00:30:35,200
harp and that’s what.
Yeah, and and they’re like,

528
00:30:35,200 –> 00:30:38,400
yeah, maybe know.
Like also looks at a certain

529
00:30:38,400 –> 00:30:41,100
point.
It just becomes weird government

530
00:30:41,100 –> 00:30:43,000
fanfiction.
That’s the thing.

531
00:30:43,000 –> 00:30:46,600
They really don’t do.
A good job presenting evidence

532
00:30:46,600 –> 00:30:50,200
in those.
So now they hit the road Alex

533
00:30:50,200 –> 00:30:53,200
the skeptic.
He’s headed to Fairbanks Alaska

534
00:30:53,200 –> 00:30:56,700
to meet with One of the heads of
HARP Research.

535
00:30:57,100 –> 00:31:01,900
Meanwhile, Michael Braverman.
Oh, who buy season 3.

536
00:31:01,900 –> 00:31:04,500
They’re just calling Braverman.
Yeah, I’d missed.

537
00:31:04,500 –> 00:31:07,100
His first name.
I missed his first name getting

538
00:31:07,100 –> 00:31:08,800
dropped.
He’s headed to Stanford

539
00:31:08,800 –> 00:31:13,500
University to talk to Harper,
researchers also, so, it seems a

540
00:31:13,500 –> 00:31:16,500
little redundant that are both
going out to talk to Heart

541
00:31:16,500 –> 00:31:18,800
research.
And also, what does harp

542
00:31:18,800 –> 00:31:21,400
researchers mean?
No rights Theory.

543
00:31:21,400 –> 00:31:23,700
We’re harp researchers.
Yeah, I mean.

544
00:31:23,900 –> 00:31:27,500
Typically as I’ve demonstrated
this episode, I have such a

545
00:31:27,508 –> 00:31:30,000
wealth of expertise on the
subject.

546
00:31:30,000 –> 00:31:31,800
Yeah.
Where was my, where was my phone

547
00:31:31,800 –> 00:31:34,500
call?
When I can episodes about HAARP.

548
00:31:34,900 –> 00:31:38,400
I do want to say very quickly
that I’m very like, I can’t

549
00:31:38,400 –> 00:31:42,000
believe I’m saying it but I’m I
was glad that it was Alex.

550
00:31:42,000 –> 00:31:47,300
The skeptic in this episode who
somehow is the least annoying of

551
00:31:47,300 –> 00:31:50,500
the Skeptics on the show.
I don’t know how but he is.

552
00:31:50,900 –> 00:31:53,700
Yeah probably there’s only the
two Skeptics though, right?

553
00:31:53,800 –> 00:31:55,300
Right.
Well then yeah, I guess the

554
00:31:55,300 –> 00:31:57,700
other guy I’m thinking of the
new characters in The Next

555
00:31:57,700 –> 00:32:00,700
Episode who I guess aren’t
skeptic.

556
00:32:00,700 –> 00:32:03,500
Definitely aren’t Skeptics.
Ha ha ha.

557
00:32:04,100 –> 00:32:09,300
So yeah, certainly is not a
skeptic, the Ozark oz art.

558
00:32:09,300 –> 00:32:13,600
Okay, but Mark of Oz, don’t you
see it?

559
00:32:15,800 –> 00:32:19,500
So yeah, but like I think Alex
is better than Daniel, I think

560
00:32:19,500 –> 00:32:22,600
death.
Yeah, Daniel whole sucked so

561
00:32:22,600 –> 00:32:23,700
bad.
I hated that.

562
00:32:23,800 –> 00:32:25,900
Yo, yeah, he was a piece of
shit.

563
00:32:25,900 –> 00:32:30,200
So Braverman, he’s talking to
these two Stanford boobs, and

564
00:32:30,200 –> 00:32:32,900
they seem like they’re, they’re
a little out of their depth.

565
00:32:33,000 –> 00:32:36,800
I don’t think they expected to
be answering questions from the

566
00:32:36,800 –> 00:32:41,500
conspiracy theory team, right?
I think they thought this was

567
00:32:41,500 –> 00:32:43,700
going to be more.
So, tell us how does this

568
00:32:43,700 –> 00:32:46,600
monitor the weather, right?
No, they’re getting.

569
00:32:46,600 –> 00:32:48,900
They’re getting hit with the
hard questions.

570
00:32:49,100 –> 00:32:51,100
Yeah.
There’s no soft balls being

571
00:32:51,100 –> 00:32:56,200
lobbed at this team and the Alex
was going to talk to finds out

572
00:32:56,200 –> 00:32:59,000
who he’s with and is like, nope.
No, thanks.

573
00:32:59,100 –> 00:33:01,500
Yeah, we are not going to do
that.

574
00:33:01,600 –> 00:33:05,800
Well, talk to you.
That’s the other funny little

575
00:33:05,800 –> 00:33:09,700
tidbit that I found was that
there were like, apparently,

576
00:33:09,700 –> 00:33:13,700
like an Air Force.
Spokeswoman was like, yeah, he,

577
00:33:13,800 –> 00:33:15,800
he said he was, he wanted to
come.

578
00:33:15,800 –> 00:33:19,000
He went, he made like an
official request to come visit

579
00:33:19,000 –> 00:33:23,400
and he said he wanted to, but we
said no, because it’s a

580
00:33:23,400 –> 00:33:25,800
conspiracy.
You see theories show and then

581
00:33:25,800 –> 00:33:29,900
he had his crew, they showed up
anyway, and so we denied them

582
00:33:29,900 –> 00:33:34,500
access.
Yeah, classic classic adventure

583
00:33:34,600 –> 00:33:39,700
Conspiracy Theory with Jesse
Ventura and maneuver early on in

584
00:33:39,700 –> 00:33:42,300
the series.
So what do we think of June

585
00:33:42,300 –> 00:33:45,400
sarpong?
And this experiment that dr.

586
00:33:45,400 –> 00:33:49,500
Brooks Agnew at runs at The
Conspiracy Theory offices.

587
00:33:49,500 –> 00:33:53,600
He seems to have built a device
designed specifically to show.

588
00:33:53,700 –> 00:33:57,400
That harp does what?
It says it does.

589
00:33:57,400 –> 00:34:00,400
The problem is not a single
person.

590
00:34:00,400 –> 00:34:06,000
He will ever show this to has
the understanding of science or

591
00:34:06,000 –> 00:34:11,000
whether necessary to know if
that thing is actually doing

592
00:34:11,100 –> 00:34:15,300
what our does and it’s good that
this is not an

593
00:34:15,300 –> 00:34:17,500
impressive-looking never meant.
This.

594
00:34:17,500 –> 00:34:22,900
Is it sit for its the whole rub
of the whole thing, which is

595
00:34:22,900 –> 00:34:26,500
there not Giving any of the
cortical evidence to the people

596
00:34:26,500 –> 00:34:32,199
who know what any of it means.
And also this thing was chintzy

597
00:34:32,199 –> 00:34:35,800
as hell.
Like I went to the while I was

598
00:34:35,800 –> 00:34:37,100
in LA.
I went to the Griffith

599
00:34:37,100 –> 00:34:41,600
Observatory and it had things
like exhibits, that were more

600
00:34:41,600 –> 00:34:46,500
convincing than this fucking
little Cloud box or whatever.

601
00:34:46,500 –> 00:34:49,100
The hell it was.
I look like a vaporizer.

602
00:34:49,100 –> 00:34:52,400
I want to smoke weed out of this
thing like Jesus like there.

603
00:34:52,400 –> 00:34:56,400
Yeah, there’s no way that.
We could ever verify what was

604
00:34:56,400 –> 00:34:59,800
happening inside this machine.
It just is it possible?

605
00:34:59,800 –> 00:35:01,700
They like what?
Unless we get up, take a look

606
00:35:01,700 –> 00:35:05,400
inside of it.
Actually, so that this doctor

607
00:35:05,700 –> 00:35:09,600
Brooks Agnew and suggests that
the reason the first war in Iraq

608
00:35:09,600 –> 00:35:13,500
turned out the way it did.
Yeah is because that was an

609
00:35:13,500 –> 00:35:17,700
early example of us deploy and
harp and that’s why troops just

610
00:35:17,700 –> 00:35:22,500
gave up in Mass the way they did
because we controlled their

611
00:35:22,500 –> 00:35:26,200
minds and made them.
Do it and I don’t know I would

612
00:35:26,200 –> 00:35:29,700
have given up too.
If you look into the first war

613
00:35:29,700 –> 00:35:30,800
in Iraq.
Another thing.

614
00:35:31,500 –> 00:35:35,400
We’ve done a podcast episode
about on a show called the 90

615
00:35:35,400 –> 00:35:38,500
sucked, look into the highway of
death.

616
00:35:38,600 –> 00:35:43,500
Yes, you’ll understand why
people surrendered without

617
00:35:43,500 –> 00:35:46,200
risking a battle with the
American Military.

618
00:35:46,200 –> 00:35:52,900
We were slaughtering, people has
he not looked at the history of

619
00:35:52,900 –> 00:35:55,700
America?
Warfare like even the 21st

620
00:35:55,700 –> 00:36:00,100
century like come on man.
You’re 2011 with this shit like

621
00:36:00,100 –> 00:36:03,700
you can’t tell that like this is
just what we do.

622
00:36:04,400 –> 00:36:07,500
Yeah, and if people aren’t
familiar the highway of death,

623
00:36:07,500 –> 00:36:11,400
there was this situation that
happened during the first war in

624
00:36:11,400 –> 00:36:14,600
Iraq where I believe it was.
People were told to get out of

625
00:36:14,600 –> 00:36:16,300
Kuwait.
Hmm.

626
00:36:16,300 –> 00:36:22,000
And return to Iraq and there was
one stretch of highway that they

627
00:36:22,000 –> 00:36:25,900
were able to take two.
Do this and the American

628
00:36:25,900 –> 00:36:27,600
government’s like get the fuck
out.

629
00:36:27,700 –> 00:36:31,600
And once people start fleeing.
We blocked both ends of the

630
00:36:31,600 –> 00:36:35,300
highway and just started bombing
the shit out.

631
00:36:35,400 –> 00:36:39,100
I think the highway of death
speaks more to why people were

632
00:36:39,400 –> 00:36:44,200
surrendering the way they were.
Hey Iraq war well, but also they

633
00:36:44,200 –> 00:36:48,200
weren’t all surrendering know.
We there was a war we were

634
00:36:48,200 –> 00:36:50,400
fighting.
So for one thing why don’t we

635
00:36:50,400 –> 00:36:51,300
just make them all?
Do it?

636
00:36:51,300 –> 00:36:56,200
And for another thing the people
who Nerd saw what happened to

637
00:36:56,200 –> 00:37:00,300
the people who didn’t and look,
I’m not an imperialist.

638
00:37:00,300 –> 00:37:01,700
I think it’s awful.
What?

639
00:37:01,700 –> 00:37:03,700
We’re conducting ourselves
around the world.

640
00:37:03,700 –> 00:37:09,900
But like, if I’m a republic
guard soldier in the first war,

641
00:37:09,900 –> 00:37:12,900
I’m gonna fuck it.
Surrender to like, obviously.

642
00:37:12,900 –> 00:37:18,000
Yeah, and my last gripe with
this part of the episode is

643
00:37:18,000 –> 00:37:20,400
well, if the military can do
that.

644
00:37:20,600 –> 00:37:22,600
Well, what happened in
Afghanistan?

645
00:37:22,700 –> 00:37:25,400
We were in Afghanistan.
And for there are people.

646
00:37:25,400 –> 00:37:29,400
I know who have been alive less
time than we were in

647
00:37:29,500 –> 00:37:32,700
Afghanistan.
Yeah, why didn’t we just maybe

648
00:37:32,700 –> 00:37:36,200
fire this weapon at the Taliban
10 million years ago?

649
00:37:36,200 –> 00:37:40,000
Something like that when we had
it, so I don’t know.

650
00:37:40,200 –> 00:37:42,800
I don’t know.
I, I dunno.

651
00:37:42,800 –> 00:37:46,100
I know that that didn’t happen.
I know that the that harp.

652
00:37:46,100 –> 00:37:49,000
I’m just gonna say it.
I’ll think heart was used to get

653
00:37:49,000 –> 00:37:52,200
it, araki’s to surrender in the
first Gulf War.

654
00:37:52,200 –> 00:37:56,700
I do love the Scallops scenario
that this doctor says harp is

655
00:37:56,700 –> 00:37:58,400
capable of producing.
Basically.

656
00:37:58,400 –> 00:38:00,900
He says, look, you’re shooting
all this energy up into the

657
00:38:00,900 –> 00:38:03,800
ionosphere.
If for some reason that gets

658
00:38:03,800 –> 00:38:07,000
deflected back to Earth, you are
going to have.

659
00:38:07,000 –> 00:38:12,400
And this is a quote, a lightning
bolt of devastating proportions,

660
00:38:12,700 –> 00:38:14,800
picture 50 Mount st.
Helens.

661
00:38:14,800 –> 00:38:17,700
Volcanoes.
Going off every second for a

662
00:38:17,707 –> 00:38:23,900
minute and I did picture that.
Hell, yeah, this is how I I want

663
00:38:23,900 –> 00:38:25,800
the world to end.
Are you kidding me?

664
00:38:26,100 –> 00:38:29,200
I would watch that movie.
Absolutely.

665
00:38:29,500 –> 00:38:34,000
It’s visually stunning.
Yeah, like if Roland emmerich,

666
00:38:34,100 –> 00:38:36,900
you know wants to make and like
fuck that guy.

667
00:38:36,900 –> 00:38:41,700
But like if he wants to make a
movie about like harp-like

668
00:38:42,100 –> 00:38:46,100
causing crazy lightning strikes
that destroy the world I watch

669
00:38:46,100 –> 00:38:48,300
it.
I absolutely will.

670
00:38:48,700 –> 00:38:54,600
But like this is again the whole
problem like This guy is just

671
00:38:54,600 –> 00:38:57,800
epitomizing, the problem which
is he’s saying it’s doing like

672
00:38:57,800 –> 00:39:00,600
four things.
Same time that don’t have

673
00:39:00,600 –> 00:39:04,300
anything to do with each other.
So like shit man.

674
00:39:05,500 –> 00:39:08,700
I feel like pick a lane and
maybe try to, you know, choose

675
00:39:08,700 –> 00:39:12,800
that one instead because also
there’s no way that it’s going

676
00:39:12,800 –> 00:39:15,200
to cause lightning strikes do
it.

677
00:39:15,200 –> 00:39:18,100
Do you know how much energy
there is a lightning strikes so

678
00:39:18,100 –> 00:39:21,400
much.
So it’s time for another team

679
00:39:21,400 –> 00:39:23,200
meeting at this team meeting
June.

680
00:39:23,700 –> 00:39:27,400
They talked to a guy named Nick
begich and he has kind of the

681
00:39:27,700 –> 00:39:32,600
like he’s the leading figure in
anti harp, the anti harp

682
00:39:32,600 –> 00:39:41,400
Community, the DIY anti harp,
and he says he will talk but

683
00:39:41,400 –> 00:39:44,600
he’ll only talk to Jesse and
June says, it’s because his

684
00:39:44,600 –> 00:39:48,100
brother is a senator.
So he trusts Jesse to which

685
00:39:48,100 –> 00:39:50,800
Jesse replies are u.s.
Senator.

686
00:39:51,900 –> 00:39:55,400
It’s like no, Jesse of
Venezuelan Senator, right?

687
00:39:55,400 –> 00:39:58,400
Well, yeah, of course.
Question is that so Jesse heads

688
00:39:58,400 –> 00:40:00,500
out on the road again.
He’s heading to the head of the

689
00:40:00,500 –> 00:40:05,200
Dragon he’s going directly to
harp of course since Southwest

690
00:40:05,200 –> 00:40:07,000
Alaska.
So it’s on another planet.

691
00:40:07,000 –> 00:40:09,700
Basically, I’ve said this
before, I feel like we bought

692
00:40:09,800 –> 00:40:13,600
Alaska mostly for research and
development purposes.

693
00:40:14,000 –> 00:40:16,100
We were like that.
Yeah, we can do, or you do

694
00:40:16,100 –> 00:40:18,400
something with that land and
it’s not even connected to us.

695
00:40:18,400 –> 00:40:22,500
So, if things go wrong, mmm,
sorry, Canada, hmm.

696
00:40:23,400 –> 00:40:28,900
So here, maybe I look I’ll what,
you know, it definitely didn’t

697
00:40:28,900 –> 00:40:31,500
make sense from most other
reasons.

698
00:40:31,700 –> 00:40:34,700
Well, my sources, tell me, oh,
of course sources done.

699
00:40:34,700 –> 00:40:36,900
Well, then, of course, it must
be true.

700
00:40:37,100 –> 00:40:39,700
The government pumps those
sources into my head using

701
00:40:39,700 –> 00:40:43,500
Hearts, Jesus, fucking Christ,
vicious vicious circle.

702
00:40:44,300 –> 00:40:47,400
So Jesse’s getting a helicopter
view a harp.

703
00:40:47,400 –> 00:40:52,300
It does look pretty creepy sure,
but any installation of anything

704
00:40:52,300 –> 00:40:53,900
in the middle of nowhere.
Looks creepy.

705
00:40:54,000 –> 00:40:56,600
Yes.
Someone in the helicopter

706
00:40:56,600 –> 00:41:00,400
mentions that the employees at
heart, don’t really know exactly

707
00:41:00,400 –> 00:41:04,400
what HAARP is used for which
that would definitely be true if

708
00:41:04,400 –> 00:41:07,300
HAARP is yeah.
Used for nefarious purposes.

709
00:41:07,600 –> 00:41:09,800
Sure.
Like there’s going to be most of

710
00:41:09,800 –> 00:41:12,100
the people aren’t going to know
that, right?

711
00:41:12,100 –> 00:41:16,300
Because that’s going to be hard.
Secret to keep also was Alex

712
00:41:16,300 –> 00:41:20,000
flying this helicopter.
I could not tell he was in the

713
00:41:20,000 –> 00:41:23,000
front.
So, yeah.

714
00:41:23,100 –> 00:41:25,400
I don’t know.
Maybe he’s a pilot.

715
00:41:25,400 –> 00:41:27,000
Yeah, he was where I would
expect.

716
00:41:27,000 –> 00:41:31,200
Jesse Ventura to have been.
Yeah, like maybe they like

717
00:41:31,500 –> 00:41:34,000
that’s a that’s a, you know,
skilled that they should have

718
00:41:34,000 –> 00:41:36,700
used more like her on if he’s a
helicopter pilot.

719
00:41:37,300 –> 00:41:40,700
And as you mentioned earlier,
they tried to arrange a tour

720
00:41:40,700 –> 00:41:43,200
ahead of time.
Yeah, the people at Harper like

721
00:41:43,200 –> 00:41:45,100
absolutely not.
No, thank you.

722
00:41:45,700 –> 00:41:50,000
So they just show up and start
ringing the buzzer and I love

723
00:41:50,000 –> 00:41:53,600
that the people at heart just
disable the buzzer and Like

724
00:41:53,600 –> 00:41:57,000
either that or Jesse Ventura.
Probably, okay.

725
00:41:59,200 –> 00:42:02,300
What do we think of the creepy?
Civilian who just shows up when

726
00:42:02,300 –> 00:42:04,900
they’re there?
And I was like, yeah, he was

727
00:42:04,900 –> 00:42:06,600
weird.
He’s a weirdo.

728
00:42:06,600 –> 00:42:10,900
I’ll be sure and like look,
maybe maybe he’s just some

729
00:42:10,900 –> 00:42:14,100
random guy who got on camera and
they got him to sign a

730
00:42:14,107 –> 00:42:17,600
disclosure agreement, but look
the show.

731
00:42:18,000 –> 00:42:21,100
And I don’t want to cast
aspersions on Conspiracy Theory

732
00:42:21,100 –> 00:42:24,200
with Jesse Ventura, but it Uses
actors.

733
00:42:24,400 –> 00:42:30,100
It you whe know, it uses actors,
like we know it does because I’m

734
00:42:30,100 –> 00:42:35,100
pretty sure one of his regulars
is in this episode if I’m not

735
00:42:35,100 –> 00:42:37,200
mistaken.
If not, it’s the next one.

736
00:42:37,600 –> 00:42:42,900
Mr. White van, but oh, yeah, so
yeah, I don’t know, maybe this

737
00:42:42,900 –> 00:42:46,000
guy is like some random guy but
confusing moment.

738
00:42:46,000 –> 00:42:49,100
This guy shows up and is like
look if we were just in the bar

739
00:42:49,200 –> 00:42:52,800
and you were, you know shooting
the shit and you brought up

740
00:42:52,800 –> 00:42:54,500
hard.
Then you were like, can I get a

741
00:42:54,500 –> 00:42:56,800
tour?
Maybe things would be different

742
00:42:56,800 –> 00:42:58,600
and Jesse.
Yeah, sure is like, so if I turn

743
00:42:58,600 –> 00:43:02,200
the cameras off, we can go in
and he’s like, absolutely not.

744
00:43:03,100 –> 00:43:05,900
You get Nat, then just wear.
Why are you even here?

745
00:43:05,900 –> 00:43:10,600
And Jesse Ventura says, when I
get denied something, I do the

746
00:43:10,600 –> 00:43:14,900
opposite of getting intimidated,
I get angry and then they just

747
00:43:14,900 –> 00:43:16,400
get the fuck out of there.
Right?

748
00:43:16,400 –> 00:43:18,500
So they leave, something starts
to interfere.

749
00:43:18,500 –> 00:43:21,200
They claim something started
interfering with camera

750
00:43:21,200 –> 00:43:24,200
equipment, which would be sure.
Hilarious.

751
00:43:24,200 –> 00:43:26,900
Yeah, that’s what it was.
Like just point one of the beams

752
00:43:26,900 –> 00:43:30,800
just wondering beams down there.
Like, what they could have.

753
00:43:30,800 –> 00:43:34,100
Just, but again, we’re talking,
if we’re talking about the beam,

754
00:43:34,100 –> 00:43:36,800
then like it makes it difficult
to believe that it’s directed at

755
00:43:36,800 –> 00:43:40,600
the ground for any reason.
But, you know, like, they could

756
00:43:40,600 –> 00:43:43,500
have at least like run a magnet
or something over the top of the

757
00:43:43,500 –> 00:43:45,300
camera.
Like that’s something to make it

758
00:43:45,300 –> 00:43:49,800
go like squiggly, you know, to
like really sell the camera

759
00:43:49,800 –> 00:43:51,900
Distortion.
It wouldn’t be good.

760
00:43:52,100 –> 00:43:54,300
Yeah.
It would have helped.

761
00:43:54,500 –> 00:43:56,400
But I mean, this is such a long
time ago.

762
00:43:56,400 –> 00:43:58,800
They we didn’t, I don’t think we
even had the technology.

763
00:43:58,900 –> 00:44:01,300
Of course, of course, we didn’t
have magnets back then.

764
00:44:01,400 –> 00:44:04,800
Yeah, but but also, this is the
second episode.

765
00:44:04,800 –> 00:44:07,800
I guess you’re still figuring
out how to how the bullshit.

766
00:44:08,000 –> 00:44:10,700
Yeah, they’re still crawling.
They’re still learning to walk.

767
00:44:10,900 –> 00:44:13,900
That’s Point.
June, heads off, to talk to the

768
00:44:13,900 –> 00:44:18,900
son of Bernard, Eastman the
scientists, behind the Eastman

769
00:44:18,900 –> 00:44:19,800
patent.
Hmm.

770
00:44:19,900 –> 00:44:24,400
He says, his dad developed HAARP
strictly for Or cold war defense

771
00:44:24,400 –> 00:44:28,200
purposes and to do good around
the world.

772
00:44:28,300 –> 00:44:31,300
Sure.
He says, his dad’s developed

773
00:44:31,300 –> 00:44:35,300
this thing just for you know, to
do good and to protect the

774
00:44:35,300 –> 00:44:39,800
United States.
And for one, if that’s true,

775
00:44:39,800 –> 00:44:43,400
like how much of a fucking
idealist were you working in the

776
00:44:43,400 –> 00:44:46,900
Reagan Administration that late
in the Reagan Administration?

777
00:44:47,600 –> 00:44:50,100
And they’re like, oh they’re
just going to use this for good.

778
00:44:50,200 –> 00:44:52,300
It’s fine.
It’s like yeah, of course it

779
00:44:52,300 –> 00:44:54,700
would have turned into A weapon
if it was capable of being a

780
00:44:54,700 –> 00:44:56,800
weapon.
And I don’t know that I trust,

781
00:44:56,800 –> 00:45:00,600
that his dad didn’t know that,
right?

782
00:45:00,700 –> 00:45:03,300
Like you’re not going to just
tell your kid, you help the

783
00:45:03,300 –> 00:45:04,800
government.
Build a death ray?

784
00:45:04,800 –> 00:45:07,200
Haha.
Maybe would if you weren’t for

785
00:45:07,200 –> 00:45:09,400
the Reagan Administration, I
guess.

786
00:45:09,400 –> 00:45:10,300
Yeah.
Yeah.

787
00:45:10,300 –> 00:45:12,200
Just working for the Reagan
Administration.

788
00:45:12,300 –> 00:45:14,900
I wouldn’t want to tell my kid
that exactly, this is what I’m

789
00:45:14,900 –> 00:45:19,100
saying.
So Eastland is the best source

790
00:45:19,100 –> 00:45:22,500
they talk to because he has
intimately familiar with the

791
00:45:22,508 –> 00:45:24,000
person.
Who developed this thing?

792
00:45:24,300 –> 00:45:27,000
So, of course, they spend the
least amount of time talking to

793
00:45:27,000 –> 00:45:33,700
him and they move on to Jesse
heading to the Village next to

794
00:45:33,700 –> 00:45:36,700
harp.
And this is a yard weird, weird

795
00:45:36,700 –> 00:45:38,200
moment.
For one thing.

796
00:45:38,200 –> 00:45:43,500
He sends a private investigator
first because he hears that the

797
00:45:43,500 –> 00:45:46,400
locals, don’t don’t like when
strangers show up.

798
00:45:46,600 –> 00:45:51,400
Hmm, and he sends this private
investigator and she comes back

799
00:45:51,400 –> 00:45:54,100
and is like you had a locals
don’t like Stranger show up.

800
00:45:54,400 –> 00:45:59,000
And so, of course, Jesse and the
team, then just go knock on the

801
00:45:59,000 –> 00:46:02,800
door of every local in town.
Hoping to find someone who will

802
00:46:02,800 –> 00:46:05,000
talk to them.
It’s like, what was the whole

803
00:46:05,000 –> 00:46:07,600
private investigator thing?
Even for that?

804
00:46:07,600 –> 00:46:09,000
Just sounds cool.
Yeah.

805
00:46:09,000 –> 00:46:12,100
I feel like she was just going
around asking questions and also

806
00:46:12,100 –> 00:46:14,500
being like hey if a guy who
looks like he’s from the

807
00:46:14,508 –> 00:46:16,300
government shows up, don’t shoot
him.

808
00:46:16,300 –> 00:46:19,800
It’s Jesse Ventura.
He’s, he’s here from the

809
00:46:19,800 –> 00:46:23,800
anti-government.
I feel like we have Have totally

810
00:46:23,800 –> 00:46:27,400
missed talking about, like, the
interviews with like Harlan,

811
00:46:27,400 –> 00:46:31,700
Girard in the people who claim
to be targeted by this, like,

812
00:46:31,700 –> 00:46:36,200
mind control from harp-like,
because that comes out

813
00:46:36,200 –> 00:46:39,000
throughout the episode.
And I found that that’s the part

814
00:46:39,000 –> 00:46:42,300
where I was saying it.
I find extremely sad because he

815
00:46:42,300 –> 00:46:43,900
also talked to some people up
close.

816
00:46:43,900 –> 00:46:48,100
I think you also talked to some
people like closer to harp.

817
00:46:48,600 –> 00:46:51,300
Yeah.
He talks to well, he goes to the

818
00:46:51,300 –> 00:46:54,700
Village directly next to Yeah,
and talks to a bunch of people

819
00:46:54,700 –> 00:46:56,100
there.
Right?

820
00:46:57,000 –> 00:46:58,800
But then he also is talking to
like a few other.

821
00:46:58,800 –> 00:47:05,400
Like the guy I sent you a link
for this article that has a lot

822
00:47:05,400 –> 00:47:07,000
to do with.
Oh, yeah, I read that.

823
00:47:07,000 –> 00:47:08,900
Is that that guys in this
episode?

824
00:47:08,900 –> 00:47:11,900
Yeah that he’s the old guy in
the episode.

825
00:47:12,000 –> 00:47:16,400
You’re very old man who we
skipped like he’s there’s

826
00:47:16,400 –> 00:47:19,300
several cutaways to this guy
into a couple other people

827
00:47:19,300 –> 00:47:23,400
talking about their experiences
with mind control and And I

828
00:47:23,400 –> 00:47:26,100
mean, the problem with these
segments.

829
00:47:26,400 –> 00:47:30,300
I just want to touch on them
because it really made an impact

830
00:47:30,300 –> 00:47:33,100
on me.
But the problem with these

831
00:47:33,100 –> 00:47:36,400
segments is that they are just
very sad because they are

832
00:47:36,400 –> 00:47:41,500
clearly people who are suffering
from some sort of late-onset,

833
00:47:41,500 –> 00:47:45,800
schizophrenia of some sort and
are talking about the voices

834
00:47:45,800 –> 00:47:49,600
that they hear, and their heads
and the way that it’s causing to

835
00:47:49,600 –> 00:47:55,100
be extremely paranoid about ass.
Sex of their everyday life.

836
00:47:55,200 –> 00:47:58,900
This article may we can link to
it in the notes?

837
00:47:58,900 –> 00:48:04,200
Yeah, they talk about like
imagining that his like family.

838
00:48:04,200 –> 00:48:07,600
And neighbors are like, putting
on a show around him and like

839
00:48:07,600 –> 00:48:10,200
being on a plane and that the
passengers are mimicking his

840
00:48:10,200 –> 00:48:14,600
behavior and that sort of thing,
which is very like creepy and

841
00:48:14,600 –> 00:48:17,700
like if I experienced that, I
would be freaked out but like

842
00:48:17,700 –> 00:48:21,600
the main angle that I get, you
know, and he also talks to a

843
00:48:21,600 –> 00:48:26,700
woman and in this Episode who
claims that these same voices

844
00:48:26,700 –> 00:48:30,200
and rays are causing her pain
throughout her body?

845
00:48:30,200 –> 00:48:31,700
Like electric shock.
Yeah.

846
00:48:31,700 –> 00:48:37,300
Pain and that and like it just
and look, I’m, I’m not only am I

847
00:48:37,300 –> 00:48:41,200
not a radio technician or a
meteorologist.

848
00:48:41,200 –> 00:48:45,600
I’m also not a psychologist.
So I can’t like diagnose these

849
00:48:45,600 –> 00:48:48,900
people but like, it just sounds
like it’s like, especially with

850
00:48:48,900 –> 00:48:51,700
Harlan who gets the most
screenplay in this episode and

851
00:48:51,700 –> 00:48:56,600
screen time in the In the
article, like he’s it just

852
00:48:56,600 –> 00:48:59,000
sounds like there’s people who
have a stigma against mental

853
00:48:59,000 –> 00:49:02,900
illness and who don’t like to be
perceived as crazy and have

854
00:49:02,900 –> 00:49:06,700
developed these symptoms at a
point in life, where they, you

855
00:49:06,700 –> 00:49:10,100
know, have established an image
of themselves as sane.

856
00:49:10,500 –> 00:49:15,500
And it’s just very sad that, you
know, they’d fallen into this

857
00:49:15,500 –> 00:49:17,700
community.
That is, I mean, they’re finding

858
00:49:17,700 –> 00:49:20,900
comfort in it, in some ways,
which is good, I guess, but it’s

859
00:49:20,900 –> 00:49:24,000
just sad and like, Jesse was
just going I mean like this is

860
00:49:24,000 –> 00:49:26,000
amazing.
I can’t believe this isn’t what

861
00:49:26,000 –> 00:49:28,800
an incredible experience.
Thank you so much for telling us

862
00:49:28,800 –> 00:49:32,800
your truth and it’s just kind of
exploited if I didn’t like it.

863
00:49:32,900 –> 00:49:37,000
Yeah, it’s a thing.
You see with a lot of conspiracy

864
00:49:37,000 –> 00:49:40,200
related media is stuff like
that.

865
00:49:40,200 –> 00:49:43,200
It’s easy to run it by someone
else or do a little more

866
00:49:43,200 –> 00:49:45,800
research and be like, well,
here’s what it could also be

867
00:49:45,900 –> 00:49:48,400
right.
And yeah, you never really see

868
00:49:48,400 –> 00:49:52,000
that with them.
The Conspiracy Theory with Jesse

869
00:49:52,000 –> 00:49:56,100
Ventura team.
Absolutely, not and you know,

870
00:49:56,100 –> 00:50:00,500
and I had the same complaint
when funny enough in the episode

871
00:50:00,500 –> 00:50:04,000
right before this one, the first
episode of the series, the 911

872
00:50:04,300 –> 00:50:09,500
episode where he’s bringing out,
you know, grieving spouses and

873
00:50:09,500 –> 00:50:11,200
stuff like that.
I’m just like, that’s gross.

874
00:50:11,300 –> 00:50:14,600
You don’t need that shit.
Yeah, and in this episode when

875
00:50:14,600 –> 00:50:19,300
he goes looking for people who
are willing to talk he ends up

876
00:50:19,300 –> 00:50:23,200
finding like the the
owner-operator of a little Snack

877
00:50:23,200 –> 00:50:25,800
Shack who?
Yeah, she’s just like, yeah,

878
00:50:25,800 –> 00:50:27,000
man.
People think it’s the

879
00:50:27,000 –> 00:50:31,700
government, then he talks to a
snowplow operator who says he

880
00:50:31,700 –> 00:50:35,100
used to plow the snow out by
heart and you can tell with that

881
00:50:35,100 –> 00:50:36,600
guy.
I don’t know.

882
00:50:36,600 –> 00:50:41,100
I feel like he’s gaining
confidence in what he can tell

883
00:50:41,100 –> 00:50:44,800
Jesse Ventura without Jesse
Ventura sounding skeptical.

884
00:50:45,000 –> 00:50:47,000
Yeah.
Because it starts with him just

885
00:50:47,000 –> 00:50:49,700
being like, yeah, you know, I
just thought it was weird out

886
00:50:49,700 –> 00:50:52,800
there and then he’s like, oh,
well, we’re not once I was at a

887
00:50:52,800 –> 00:50:54,500
bar.
And I overheard someone talking

888
00:50:54,500 –> 00:50:57,200
about mind control.
I went up and asked him and he

889
00:50:57,200 –> 00:50:59,900
was like, yeah, man, we can do
all kinds of mind control and

890
00:50:59,900 –> 00:51:01,800
it’s like, nope.
That’s not how that would work.

891
00:51:04,700 –> 00:51:07,300
Yeah.
I don’t know if he needed.

892
00:51:07,300 –> 00:51:09,500
I feel like this was an
unnecessary step.

893
00:51:09,500 –> 00:51:12,200
I get that you want to talk to
the people who live near it, but

894
00:51:12,200 –> 00:51:14,700
also maybe they don’t want to
talk to you.

895
00:51:14,700 –> 00:51:17,600
For the same reason the woman
who bought Kurt Cobain’s House

896
00:51:17,600 –> 00:51:19,900
doesn’t want to talk to him,
right?

897
00:51:20,000 –> 00:51:22,800
Because they just want to be
fucking left alone right now.

898
00:51:22,900 –> 00:51:26,000
Yeah, and like and yeah, I just
think this episode could

899
00:51:26,000 –> 00:51:30,500
definitely have done without any
sort of Civilian, non

900
00:51:30,500 –> 00:51:32,800
quote-unquote, expert
interviews.

901
00:51:32,900 –> 00:51:37,200
I think the yeah, getting into
the people who are supposedly

902
00:51:37,200 –> 00:51:39,300
affected by this thing is just
gross.

903
00:51:39,500 –> 00:51:42,200
There’s one really great moment
where Jesse’s interview in the

904
00:51:42,200 –> 00:51:45,300
snowplow operator.
In the guy goes you ever heard

905
00:51:45,300 –> 00:51:47,000
of that mind?
Control the Russians use on

906
00:51:47,000 –> 00:51:49,600
their prisoners.
And in Jesse just goes, yeah.

907
00:51:49,700 –> 00:51:50,900
Yeah.
It’s on.

908
00:51:51,000 –> 00:51:52,400
It’s like you don’t need any
other.

909
00:51:53,200 –> 00:51:54,900
Do you want to elaborate in the
guy?

910
00:51:54,900 –> 00:51:57,200
The guy sort of does he goes
they send out a frequency and

911
00:51:57,200 –> 00:51:59,500
then people do what they want.
Sure.

912
00:51:59,800 –> 00:52:03,000
Okay, can we get, can you put a
link to a Wikipedia page on the

913
00:52:03,000 –> 00:52:05,600
screen or something?
This guy’s dog.

914
00:52:05,600 –> 00:52:08,200
Certainly seem to agree that
some sure going on.

915
00:52:08,600 –> 00:52:11,700
It was a good boy because they
are they’re losing their shit in

916
00:52:11,700 –> 00:52:14,100
the background.
Yeah, that’s person they talked

917
00:52:14,100 –> 00:52:18,600
to is dr.
Begich, who is probably the

918
00:52:18,600 –> 00:52:22,800
leading Authority on anti harp
information.

919
00:52:22,900 –> 00:52:26,800
He looks like the keyboard
player in an 80s, New Wave band,

920
00:52:26,800 –> 00:52:31,100
but in 2010, right?
And he says, cool is what you’re

921
00:52:31,100 –> 00:52:32,600
saying?
Looks very cool.

922
00:52:32,700 –> 00:52:36,300
He looks very cool.
He says, we have this technology

923
00:52:36,300 –> 00:52:39,600
in that Russia and China are
pursuing it as well.

924
00:52:39,600 –> 00:52:44,000
And he brings up that there is
actually a 1977 treaty against

925
00:52:44,100 –> 00:52:46,200
manipulating the weather and I
looked it up.

926
00:52:46,200 –> 00:52:48,100
And yes, it’s part of the
church, the convention.

927
00:52:48,800 –> 00:52:50,400
Yeah.
So again, it’s clear.

928
00:52:50,400 –> 00:52:53,700
It’s not that crazy.
That I guess.

929
00:52:53,700 –> 00:52:55,800
But that doesn’t mean that it’s
possible.

930
00:52:56,700 –> 00:52:59,100
I mean that it’s impossible.
Well, no, it did.

931
00:52:59,100 –> 00:53:01,200
I sing.
It means it’s impossible but

932
00:53:01,200 –> 00:53:05,100
like, you know, shit man, I feel
like it’s Geneva Convention is

933
00:53:05,100 –> 00:53:06,800
just trying to be pretty
comprehensive.

934
00:53:06,800 –> 00:53:12,000
They’re like, yeah, maybe so dr.
Begich demonstrates.

935
00:53:12,000 –> 00:53:16,500
The Mind Control capabilities of
harp on Jesse Ventura, and

936
00:53:16,500 –> 00:53:19,300
here’s another experiment where
I’m like, yeah, but no you’re

937
00:53:19,300 –> 00:53:23,100
not, you’re not actually doing
what heart does because What he

938
00:53:23,100 –> 00:53:27,200
does, is he attaches these
Piezo, electric pickups

939
00:53:27,200 –> 00:53:30,300
basically like those are what
are in guitars guitar, pickups

940
00:53:30,800 –> 00:53:37,000
that, and he put some on Jesse
Ventura’s prominent jawline.

941
00:53:37,100 –> 00:53:39,800
And then he pumped some, some
music to it.

942
00:53:39,800 –> 00:53:42,600
And Jesse Ventura says, he hears
it like it’s coming through the

943
00:53:42,600 –> 00:53:44,500
top of his head or hears it in
his head.

944
00:53:44,700 –> 00:53:46,600
Sure.
That’s not how harp works.

945
00:53:46,800 –> 00:53:50,800
That’s not that’s not how that
heart you if HAARP works if I

946
00:53:50,800 –> 00:53:56,200
have to attach.
Fevers to my jaw to pop messages

947
00:53:56,200 –> 00:53:57,000
to me.
I’m fine.

948
00:53:57,000 –> 00:53:59,700
I feel like we can.
Yeah, I feel like that’s a

949
00:54:00,200 –> 00:54:02,300
intrusion into my life that I
can avoid.

950
00:54:02,300 –> 00:54:04,000
Right?
Yeah, it would just choose not

951
00:54:04,000 –> 00:54:06,500
to do that.
And also that’s technology.

952
00:54:06,800 –> 00:54:10,600
I don’t know how far we were
from developing it by the time

953
00:54:10,600 –> 00:54:13,800
the show came out but like
that’s a thing now, there’s bone

954
00:54:13,800 –> 00:54:17,700
conduction.
Yes that existed in 2011 yet not

955
00:54:17,700 –> 00:54:21,000
broke adduction earphones, but
like thing and things like like

956
00:54:21,000 –> 00:54:24,000
a throat Mike, you know, where
you You have like a microphone

957
00:54:24,000 –> 00:54:26,500
on your throat instead of on in
your ear.

958
00:54:26,800 –> 00:54:31,200
Yeah, like yeah that shit exists
yabbos makes glasses.

959
00:54:31,400 –> 00:54:35,400
That sure where am it works
using bone conduction.

960
00:54:35,400 –> 00:54:38,100
But like in your the area of
your temples, well, it’s like

961
00:54:38,100 –> 00:54:40,800
you said their pickups there.
That’s that’s how pickups work

962
00:54:40,800 –> 00:54:42,900
and electric guitars.
That’s what that is.

963
00:54:43,200 –> 00:54:47,200
It’s transmitting the signal
through an electric cord, to an

964
00:54:47,200 –> 00:54:51,200
amp.
So I do still think there’s

965
00:54:51,200 –> 00:54:55,900
something weird about her.
I just again suspicions

966
00:54:55,900 –> 00:54:58,400
confirmed.
They did not do a great job of

967
00:54:58,500 –> 00:55:01,800
presenting the theory in this
episode.

968
00:55:02,100 –> 00:55:05,700
I don’t think the any of these
experiments were that

969
00:55:05,700 –> 00:55:09,000
compelling.
No, this one is not again.

970
00:55:09,000 –> 00:55:12,400
It’s not like if he had said,
all right, I’m going to show you

971
00:55:12,400 –> 00:55:16,000
how harp works and just pulled a
fucking gun out of his pocket

972
00:55:16,000 –> 00:55:19,700
and fired a beam up at the
ceiling and it bounced back down

973
00:55:19,700 –> 00:55:21,900
and hit Jesse Ventura and the
head, right?

974
00:55:21,900 –> 00:55:26,900
It’s like, it’s not mine.
My Sharona, holy shit, that is

975
00:55:26,900 –> 00:55:32,100
how hard works you did.
This is not harp works also

976
00:55:32,100 –> 00:55:34,700
which part of heart.
O is the Mind Control part.

977
00:55:34,800 –> 00:55:36,700
Okay, not the weather part.
Okay.

978
00:55:37,300 –> 00:55:39,000
Look, it’s probably missile
defense.

979
00:55:39,000 –> 00:55:41,600
If it’s anything and maybe that
was even scrapped because Star

980
00:55:41,600 –> 00:55:44,900
Wars didn’t work either.
So, you know, yeah, well I could

981
00:55:44,900 –> 00:55:47,800
see it again.
Having been a missile defense

982
00:55:47,800 –> 00:55:50,500
thing that fell out of might use
at say.

983
00:55:50,500 –> 00:55:52,800
That’s what I’m saying.
Yeah, like weapons.

984
00:55:53,100 –> 00:55:57,800
And I do love Jesse’s final
conclusion as this episode ends,

985
00:55:57,800 –> 00:56:00,800
which is that a government
program run by the US Navy

986
00:56:00,800 –> 00:56:04,200
doesn’t shut out a former Navy
SEAL unless they’ve got

987
00:56:04,200 –> 00:56:06,500
something to hide.
Wow.

988
00:56:06,600 –> 00:56:09,000
Yeah.
Clearly, they’ve got everyone

989
00:56:09,000 –> 00:56:10,900
has something to hide from Jesse
Ventura.

990
00:56:11,000 –> 00:56:12,600
Yeah.
Absolutely.

991
00:56:12,600 –> 00:56:15,400
That’s absolutely clear.
But yeah, the government has

992
00:56:15,400 –> 00:56:17,400
stuff to hide.
Of course they do.

993
00:56:17,400 –> 00:56:18,900
I do.
This is a whole thing.

994
00:56:19,100 –> 00:56:22,700
Is that how being a Navy SEAL
works you just show up and yeah.

995
00:56:22,800 –> 00:56:25,300
Yeah, pull your challenge coin
out of your pocket and you’re

996
00:56:25,300 –> 00:56:29,200
exactly and I’m a Navy SEAL.
Yeah, you flash your badge.

997
00:56:29,300 –> 00:56:31,900
Then you get shot in the knee.
Right?

998
00:56:33,500 –> 00:56:36,600
So that’s our episode.
I think you have any final

999
00:56:36,600 –> 00:56:40,800
thoughts on harp?
No, I don’t have any thoughts on

1000
00:56:40,800 –> 00:56:44,500
harp any like this, is it that
we’ve gotten them all on tape.

1001
00:56:44,600 –> 00:56:46,800
I think it’s weird.
It’s a cool place.

1002
00:56:47,000 –> 00:56:51,400
I do encourage people to watch
the CBC documentary about HAARP

1003
00:56:51,400 –> 00:56:52,600
will link to it.
Yeah.

1004
00:56:52,900 –> 00:56:58,300
In the show notes, they are you
a representative from heart

1005
00:56:58,300 –> 00:57:02,300
piece of government guy, and he
more than anything else will

1006
00:57:02,300 –> 00:57:05,600
convince you that there is
something Shady going on with

1007
00:57:05,600 –> 00:57:09,500
harp-like, even the mind-control
stuff when they asked him about

1008
00:57:09,500 –> 00:57:13,200
it.
He’s like, yeah, it’s possible.

1009
00:57:13,200 –> 00:57:16,400
Nah, but I don’t know what we
would use it for.

1010
00:57:16,500 –> 00:57:22,700
I mean, sure, that’s convincing
honestly like, okay.

1011
00:57:22,800 –> 00:57:25,400
Yeah, yeah, that makes sense.
That’s kind of what I feel about

1012
00:57:25,400 –> 00:57:27,000
it.
Yeah, let’s do it.

1013
00:57:27,000 –> 00:57:29,600
Might as well be petting a cat
during this in.

1014
00:57:29,600 –> 00:57:31,700
Yeah.
Interview like he is up to

1015
00:57:31,700 –> 00:57:34,200
something should be twiddling a
mustache.

1016
00:57:34,300 –> 00:57:37,200
Yeah, my other last heart.
Thought is that?

1017
00:57:37,200 –> 00:57:39,500
I would like to go there.
I think it’d be cool.

1018
00:57:39,700 –> 00:57:42,700
It looks cool.
I would too until I feel like

1019
00:57:42,700 –> 00:57:45,300
until I got there.
Yeah be like, alright, we saw

1020
00:57:45,300 –> 00:57:47,900
harp where we eating tonight.
Well sure.

1021
00:57:48,000 –> 00:57:50,900
Oh no, this is I mean eat a
bear.

1022
00:57:51,100 –> 00:57:52,700
This is something you have to
contend.

1023
00:57:52,900 –> 00:57:57,300
Basically anywhere in the rule
and like Alaska that you want

1024
00:57:57,300 –> 00:58:02,300
to, you want to visit any sort
of Arctic claim just going to be

1025
00:58:02,300 –> 00:58:05,000
kind of tough for.
You know, I doubt they have a

1026
00:58:05,000 –> 00:58:07,300
lot of like Steak and Shakes or
anything up there.

1027
00:58:07,600 –> 00:58:09,300
Man.
I fuck with a steak and shake.

1028
00:58:09,600 –> 00:58:11,600
I think it’s gotten worse than
it used to be.

1029
00:58:11,700 –> 00:58:14,300
I don’t think it’s as good as it
used to be now, but it’s still

1030
00:58:14,300 –> 00:58:16,700
pretty good.
Can’t keep one open and Lala.

1031
00:58:16,800 –> 00:58:19,900
I know they’re all they’re not
even 24 hours in Indiana

1032
00:58:19,900 –> 00:58:21,000
anymore.
At least not near me.

1033
00:58:21,600 –> 00:58:23,900
Oh, come on bullshit.
The point of having breakfast.

1034
00:58:24,000 –> 00:58:26,400
This is what is the point of a
steak and shake?

1035
00:58:26,400 –> 00:58:28,900
That’s not 24 hours.
That’s my final thought on.

1036
00:58:29,000 –> 00:58:31,300
Yeah.
Yeah, you know, I feel like

1037
00:58:31,300 –> 00:58:33,300
HAARP is the reason.
Yes.

1038
00:58:33,300 –> 00:58:39,000
Oh my God, they pointed one of
their 330 beans at the stake as

1039
00:58:39,000 –> 00:58:41,100
shakes and they’re like, no,
you’re closing.

1040
00:58:41,100 –> 00:58:48,600
Yeah, sonic did this those
dastardly fools at Sonic.

1041
00:58:48,700 –> 00:58:52,200
They’ll know what they’re
tampering with Johnny Rockets

1042
00:58:52,200 –> 00:58:54,400
that may I I always thought that
was a government thing with a

1043
00:58:54,408 –> 00:58:58,800
name, like Johnny Rockets, of
course, of course, so that’s our

1044
00:58:58,800 –> 00:59:04,000
episode next week.
We’re going to do, I think I’m

1045
00:59:04,008 –> 00:59:06,900
gonna put this episode out for
free, just a little.

1046
00:59:06,900 –> 00:59:09,900
This is one of the things we get
up to when we do bonus episodes.

1047
00:59:09,900 –> 00:59:11,500
Yeah.
Hey, everybody.

1048
00:59:12,400 –> 00:59:16,300
There are nine more of these
floating around the, well, the

1049
00:59:16,300 –> 00:59:20,200
the ninth one tenth total will
be next week, which will yes, a

1050
00:59:20,200 –> 00:59:24,500
subscriber, only episode but We
talked about Jesse Ventura a lot

1051
00:59:24,500 –> 00:59:27,200
and I feel like yeah, around and
third heading for home when it

1052
00:59:27,200 –> 00:59:30,400
comes to cover in this series,
literally rounding third.

1053
00:59:30,400 –> 00:59:34,600
Yeah, third season.
Yeah, we’ve covered most of the

1054
00:59:34,600 –> 00:59:36,600
episodes.
There’s a couple stragglers that

1055
00:59:36,600 –> 00:59:38,400
we haven’t gotten to, which I’m
sure we will.

1056
00:59:38,700 –> 00:59:42,200
But you know, if you had told me
like a few years ago that I

1057
00:59:42,200 –> 00:59:46,000
would watch every single episode
of Conspiracy Theory with Jesse

1058
00:59:46,000 –> 00:59:49,300
Ventura from 2011.
I probably would have laughed at

1059
00:59:49,300 –> 00:59:53,000
your face and yet here we are.
I would have been like I Ready?

1060
00:59:53,000 –> 00:59:58,200
Did you mean?
I’m gonna watch it again and

1061
00:59:58,200 –> 01:00:01,500
you’ve watched bork is now you
seen the police state episode.

1062
01:00:01,700 –> 01:00:03,500
Oh, that’s right.
Well, no, I saw the police state

1063
01:00:03,500 –> 01:00:06,300
episode only was pulled after
it.

1064
01:00:06,300 –> 01:00:08,700
Got I thought it was one that
just didn’t go to Eric.

1065
01:00:08,900 –> 01:00:13,300
Oh, hot for TV.
So, yeah.

1066
01:00:13,300 –> 01:00:15,000
Do stay tuned for that.
Episode.

1067
01:00:15,000 –> 01:00:17,300
Subscribe at patreon.com slash
on pops.

1068
01:00:17,300 –> 01:00:19,700
On pops, Network that super
cast, out Tech or right in the

1069
01:00:19,700 –> 01:00:21,300
Spotify app.
Yeah.

1070
01:00:21,300 –> 01:00:25,200
I want to hear.
Those bonus episodes and that’s

1071
01:00:25,200 –> 01:00:29,600
all I got to plug.
How about you you can find me at

1072
01:00:29,600 –> 01:00:30,500
Twitter.
Hi there.

1073
01:00:30,500 –> 01:00:33,000
Hide our.
I’m also on letterbox.

1074
01:00:33,000 –> 01:00:36,200
I’ve been, I’ve been really
keeping up with my letterbox

1075
01:00:36,200 –> 01:00:38,200
this year.
I don’t know what that is.

1076
01:00:38,500 –> 01:00:41,100
It’s a movie review.
It’s like Twitter but for movie

1077
01:00:41,100 –> 01:00:46,200
reviews and it’s not annoying.
So, yeah, it sounds unlikely.

1078
01:00:46,200 –> 01:00:49,100
But okay.
I mean look, it might be

1079
01:00:49,100 –> 01:00:54,300
annoying if you follow me, but
but In general, I don’t have to

1080
01:00:54,300 –> 01:00:57,400
look at my feet.
So in general, it’s a pretty

1081
01:00:57,400 –> 01:01:00,500
good site.
Alright, I think that’s it.

1082
01:01:00,500 –> 01:01:02,700
Let’s get out of here.
Olivia say goodbye.

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Bye.
Goodbye.

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Everybody.
We love you.