Originally released as a subscriber only bonus episode in May 2021. Now it’s free for all! Adam and Fizaa discuss all of the weird 1950s sightings documented in the recently released CIA UFO files!
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The episode is about that huge
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released earlier this year,
specifically, it covers some of
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the highly weird 1950s UFO
sightings that are documented in
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those files if you’re listening
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In the room.
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Hey everybody.
Welcome to conspiracy the show.
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I’m your host, Adam Todd Brown
joining me is co-host today.
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Who are you?
Oh, I’m visiting Saudi.
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I don’t know why.
I said, oh, before I like, I’m
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Irish surprise.
You know, Italian, I’m sorry.
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I’m sorry.
My name is physical Dasani.
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Physical name.
Is that you haven’t been on in a
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while because I went down that
big you are on the first
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Jonestown.
Episode Jonestown.
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And then I did about eight more
of those and boy that boy, was
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that shit dark.
Oh, I bet but we’re back now
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talking about.
This is kind of light-hearted.
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Right?
No one dies.
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I don’t think this is not as
heavy literally as well.
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Yeah, technology.
Yes.
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It’s going into space.
You got to be lightweight and
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agile for that propulsion
technology.
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We’re talking about the CIA UFO
files.
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This is a thing I brought up on
an episode.
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So done pops recently that the
CIA had to release a bunch of
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their UFO files because of
Donald Trump’s last covid
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stimulus.
Bill for some reason called for
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the release of all these UFO
files and there’s about 2,700
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files and I haven’t read them
all.
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But I’ve looked at them all and
I’ve put them all into folders.
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Like I’ve organized them into
folders so I can just mind them.
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Episodes for like, the next 10
years and now this is the first
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of those episodes.
It’s a bonus episode.
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And we’re talking about flying
saucers because man, the flying
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saucers in the 50s.
They were everywhere.
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Would you say it was the Golden
Age?
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I would definitely call it the
golden age.
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If you if he especially even if
you just look at these files in
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the 1950s, there’s so much shit.
And then if I do another episode
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it’s going to have to be like
60. 70, s 80s and 90s all
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combined.
Well, it’s a pleasure.
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And an honor to kick off another
series with you.
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Yeah.
I hope I don’t end up doing all
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of these in a row because that
always ends up getting even
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though it had.
No, it’s still interesting like
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researching it after a while
just gets to be tedious and I
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had that change it up and talk
about.
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I don’t know that CIA child sex
trafficking ring that we did an
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episode about that one time.
Yeah.
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Light it up sometimes.
So yeah, we’re going to talk on
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this episode about some of the
Easier, UFO.
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Sightings that are in the CIA
files and there are a lot of UFO
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sightings in these files.
According to these files from
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1947 to 1950 to there were 1,500
reported UFO, sightings, which I
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feel like is more than we’ve
heard, because I know about like
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Roswell from back then and I
haven’t heard much else.
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But there’s a lot.
I mean that’s a striking number
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and that’s Like the impression
history books have given us
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whatsoever.
And what’s interesting about
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these files is the one thing
that almost never comes up is
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aliens like they’re not, they’re
not easy.
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It’s not even suggested that.
These might be aliens.
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It’s all about Russia and
whether this is Russia building
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these things.
It’s pretty fucking weird.
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But the first file that caught
my attention was a 1952 report
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from the deputy director of the
CIA.
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A to the director of the CIA
regarding a visit to the Air,
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Force are technical Intelligence
Center, which didn’t know that
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existed until I started digging
into this.
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I wonder if that still exists.
We do have 16 intelligence
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agencies in this country.
So I’m sure they’re still out
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there getting that intelligence
in the sky.
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Yeah, be interesting to, I was
going to do a quick Google.
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Yeah, I thought about doing an
episode of this podcast about
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each individual intelligence
service.
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And trying to figure out what
they do.
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We learned this week that the
postal inspection service is
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vehement Lee.
Monitoring our social media use?
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Like they have a whole team
because you know how the post
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office can be impacted by our
social media posts.
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Yeah.
So in this report, there’s three
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different UFO sightings listed
in this, there’s one where
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Florida, man, of course,
reported.
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He was driving.
In West Palm Beach.
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Florida.
With for Boy Scouts, which
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immediately gave me creepy,
Jeffrey, Epstein Vibes.
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Yeah, that’s I mean that it
could be a little bit of a red
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red flag unless he’s like a Lego
will will learn a little bit
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more about this Florida man
shortly.
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Yeah that and I know what you
were probably about to say
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unless he was a scout master
scoutmaster, but I’ve never like
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I wanted to do Girl Scouts and I
was younger and I never my mom
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never put me in the brownies.
So I don’t know what the
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hierarchy is.
So I decided added to yeah.
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Well, I’m glad you.
Well.
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The thing is, they never call
him that because the yeah, so
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it, who knows?
He could have literally been
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kidnapping.
These kids.
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I don’t know.
It did there’s no context given.
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Yeah, they don’t.
I mean, this is the CIA.
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They don’t give a shit.
They just want to know about
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those.
UFOs are like those kids.
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We don’t care.
Are we lucky if they just have
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enough words, redacted.
So we can put together, like,
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sentences with subject and
predicate.
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Yeah.
There are some of these even the
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UFO sighting files, where there
will be one person.
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Paragraph and then it’s just
three pages of redactions.
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That’s like what is in there?
That’s what I want to know.
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Another good shit.
Yeah.
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It kind of makes me wonder if
the sightings that are redacted
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are sightings of shit.
We were working on at the time
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whereas the other ones are just
like who knows what us, but
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yeah, this guy, he’s driving
through West Palm Beach.
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Florida with for Boy Scouts a
nice even number.
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Yeah, I don’t know where they
were going, but they while
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they’re driving.
They see a strange light coming
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out of the woods, just off the
side of the road and this man
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pulls over and goes in to
investigate which right there.
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That’s some white person in a
horror movie shit.
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Like you.
I would I would just kind of
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drive by and be like, oh, did
you see that weird light?
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Probably something.
I don’t have any business
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checking out.
Yeah, especially if you have the
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welfare of for Boy Scouts in
your hands like Ignorant don’t
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pull over on the side of the
Florida Highway and you’re in a
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remote part of Florida.
I shit you not.
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My first thought would be oh
someone’s burying a body over
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there.
I better keep it moving.
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Yeah, I mean like in Florida
when you see something like
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that.
It’s called someone else’s
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business.
Yeah.
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Most people would ya like I
think but who knows this was a
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different time.
Maybe.
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Yeah, you know, it people were
more neighborly, lights, were
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still knew back.
Then I go look at the color of
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that one.
I mean, it was floor.
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Ida, you know like shout out to
anyone who lives in Florida for
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central air.
Yeah.
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Was this guy not worried about
Gators going in that fucking
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Florida.
Jungle?
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Yeah.
That’s a real thing.
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By the way.
Hmm.
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People get snatched up by those
gators.
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It’s who not a.
It was, how crazy would it have
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been if he ran over there?
And it was just Gators using
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light to lure people in.
Oh, yeah.
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How do you set that up with your
little arms Gators, so he goes
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in to investigate even touch
their mouth.
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But they’re still smoking.
They’re cool Gators.
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Yeah.
He’s so he goes in to
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investigate this light and fails
to return after a few minutes.
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So the Boy Scouts be in Boy
Scouts, they do their Duty and
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go in after him.
But before they could get there
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he comes stumbling out of the
woods with burns on his forearms
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and what he claimed happened is
that he’d seen a large circular
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object about 8 feet over his
head which released a fireball
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that descended on him.
Him at which point he blacked
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out briefly and there were
samples of grass taken from the
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area, and they differed
strangely in appearance from
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samples nearby, but the report
also mentions that the source of
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this claim had quote and
unsavory personal reputation and
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criminal report and quote
leading them to think it was
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maybe a hoax even though they
couldn’t explain the weird grass
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samples.
I wouldn’t be able to explain
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why he only got burned on his
forearms.
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I mean it was a fireball and
then also, I mean, it could be
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that the large circular object
was a humongous cigarette
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because the arms are so short
for the alligators that he has a
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really big cigarette to get into
their mouths.
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And maybe they just like, we’re
like man, why are you spoiling
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our buzz and burned him fucking
Gators partying over there?
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Alien Gator?
No, that’s that is strange.
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It’s weird.
It’s only the only thing I can
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think of is if he looked up and
I’m sure everyone listening can
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Can see me doing this too.
And when he saw the fireball did
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like a defensive.
Oh, yeah, so a defensive plays
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where he uses four arms to block
his face or right?
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Okay, makes sense.
And they said the grass was
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Disturbed.
So that’s, that’s weird.
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But I mean, that the grass is
something you could fake.
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Like, it would take a little
effort, but you could probably
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fake that.
But who knows the government,
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certainly didn’t seem that
concerned about this report?
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Yeah.
And again, Just like this dude.
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They you know, they’re like,
well, we’re not going to take
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this claim.
Seriously.
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What did we do?
We follow up with the Boy
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Scouts?
Yeah.
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I’m at.
Well, they just saw the
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aftermath though.
They just saw the guy come out,
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but I’m assuming they saw the
light to that would have been an
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elaborate hoax.
If he set that light up ahead of
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time.
I’m referring to the well-being
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of the have the boy scout.
It’s I got eaten by the Gators.
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See, the shouldn’t have you
don’t pull over for everything
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now.
So this man came to the CIA and
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brought the story to the CIA
document, the burns on his arm
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or was this, you know, did he
bring the grass sample or D?
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Bring the CIA to the location?
How many details are included in
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a lot of these?
There’s not many details.
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I’ve usually pulled out most of
the interesting stuff.
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Yeah, and they, yeah, they don’t
say anything about that.
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The fact that they did the grass
samples, I don’t know if that
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means, they did it.
Or if just local authorities
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were like, oh, look at the
grass.
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It looks different.
Yeah.
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It did say they couldn’t account
for the difference in the, the
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grass, in the surrounding area,
compared to those samples.
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So maybe they thought he might
have seen something real.
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But yeah, it that’s one thing
you don’t get in.
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Any of these files is the cia’s
movements.
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Like there’s one of the reports
we’re going to talk about.
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About at the end every name,
location.
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Everything is redacted.
You get the details, but you
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don’t really know when it’s
happening where it’s happening
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who it’s happening to.
So, yeah, there’s not, there’s
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not a lot of that it when there
is it’s fascinating, like,
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there’s there are things will
get to on.
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I think I’m going to do an
episode just about all the files
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about them watching people and
that shit’s really interesting
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because then you pick up on some
of the tricks and shit.
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Yeah, but yeah in these it’s the
the We’re talking about today
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are the ones that have the most
detail.
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There’s a few more.
We might do a second part of the
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1950s one.
But this the, in this report,
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there’s a second sighting that I
won’t go into detail about
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because the conclusion was that
they were just seeing, Jupiter
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is just Jupiter was visible at
the time.
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Well, that’s so strange because
it was described as a circular
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orange object, with four green
lights nearby.
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Oh, yeah, see if you just
Google.
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How many moons of Jupiter?
The first picture that comes up?
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It’s like an orange orb, but you
do see three or four green orbs
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around it that are four of the
moon’s.
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So yeah, these dip shits, who I
believe we’re in the Navy.
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We’re just seeing Jupiter.
They were looking spacecraft and
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it’s notably large to.
Yeah, so you would have been
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able to see Jupiter even
probably with the naked eye at
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some points, but this third
side.
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Eating that’s in these files is
really interesting.
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It happened in tremens in Utah
on July 2nd 1952.
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And if you Google this, there’s
you can even find the video.
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You can find an old-timey
government.
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Like the government used to do
this thing where they would like
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re-enact events and make them
news clips that would go in like
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that would play before movies
and shit.
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And there’s a weird thing like
that about this UFO incident,
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but other than that, That this
isn’t a really famous one that
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has been written about a lot.
And the report describes, the
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person who filmed this video,
who is named Albert, new house.
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And in this video, there are 10
objects that appear to be
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Milling about.
It says in the report traveling
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in a Westerly Direction, in the
sky and at one point, one object
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separates from the rest and
reverses course and flies across
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the sky.
And the report also includes
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these conclusions from an
investigator of the film done by
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the are technical Intelligence
Center.
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There.
They are again, ten objects all
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alike and movement in size
decidedly improbable that they
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are birds or balloons exact
nature.
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Cannot be determined.
It would probably be extremely
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difficult to imitate.
This photography for fraudulent.
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Purposes, is imitate the right
word there wouldn’t be like
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manipulate or something like
that.
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I don’t know.
Yeah, cuz imitate would be
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making a copy of something real.
Yeah.
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Yeah, so I think they might have
used in correct wording there,
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but you get what they’re saying.
It would be hard to fake this
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video.
Yeah, huh?
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Okay.
I mean it’s 1952 at home camera
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technology.
So you hear like flapping noises
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in the background and it’s not
super clear, but you can see it.
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You can see the 10 objects,
they’re talking about, and they
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are all moving in unison, and
then one of them just fucking
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take.
Off in a different direction,
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really fast.
It’s strange.
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It almost looks like the Phoenix
Lights.
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If you’re familiar with that
which the Phoenix Lights, if you
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look at them, now, they just
look like drones, but they were
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doing the same thing.
That was a 1997 UFO incident.
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That was first reported by Kurt
Russell, noted pilot, Kurt
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Russell.
He was flying his son to go
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visit his girlfriend.
Like, what?
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A fucking cool dad and then he
spots a UFO, rich.
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People have the best fucking And
lives, man.
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There’s another incident in
these files that happened.
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October, 29th. 1950 to 1952 is a
hot year.
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Yeah.
In terms of UFOs, that whoever
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built these, I feel like that’s
the year.
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They really got it down and
started mass-producing them
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because yeah, they’re just
people are finding them all over
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the place.
They really are.
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They’re everywhere.
And they’re like, this is just a
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fraction of the reported.
Things from these files will
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link to where you can see all
these files there on a site
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called The Black Vault, which
just compiles FBI and CIA
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documents into a readable form.
So thanks to them for doing that
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because that’s where I got all
these files from question.
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Yes or flying saucers in the
Zeitgeist at the time.
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Yeah.
They had already started being
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written about in science fiction
and things like that.
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It was definitely a thing that
In the public Consciousness at
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the time, and that does come up
a lot in this.
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That there are a lot of people
writing on this subject.
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One of the people that ends up
getting kind of followed the
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most, or that gets the most
attention from them, is a guy
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named Major, Daniel Kehoe, who
was in the Marines and he had
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this theory that the CIA was
going around and threatening
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people.
Into not talking about UFOs,
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which that doesn’t sound like
the government at all, but he
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four years before that was a
science fiction, writer also.
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And he wrote about UFOs a lot.
So that comes up a lot in his
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file where they’re like this
guy.
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He’s a sensationalist like yeah,
but he’s just saying you
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intimidate Witnesses, which you
probably do.
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So this is one that happened.
October 29, 1952 Tarn, France,
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ever been.
I’ve haven’t personally.
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Either this incident around 100,
people all report, seeing the
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same thing.
They report, witnessing a flying
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saucer formation around, 16
crafts, which revolved and gave
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off a bluish light at the sides
as an important detail because
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it comes up again in another
report.
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Yeah, and they also reported an
elongated cylinder in the center
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of the saucer formation.
The weirdest part of the report.
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Is that all the objects?
These were said to have
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discharged shining whitish
particles, which look like glass
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wool and accumulated on tree
branches and Telegraph wires.
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Many of the person said that
they’ve been able to gather
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clusters of such particles, but
that these had quickly,
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disintegrated making it
impossible to have them analyzed
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later in a lab.
Yeah.
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That’s literally, the only
reason this one is in the notes.
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Well, now because that
description matches a
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description that we here, in a
couple other, It’s but that
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white particles thing.
I have never heard that in any
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UFO sighting report ever.
It’s nowhere else in these files
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and it’s like I’ve never heard
it just generally.
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So that one’s weird.
Those people are all aliens.
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Now, it’s 100 people that be
cool.
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He picked it up and turned into
an alien.
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But only if it turned you into
an alien that can survive our
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atmosphere obviously, so they
absorbed The glass wool.
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Well, not the real glass.
I wasn’t really glass wool, but
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the is probably just that stuff
that’s in the packets that says,
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do not eat pair of shoes, which
by the way, you know, what
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happens.
If you eat that?
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I don’t nothing.
Nothing at all.
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Have you tried?
No, but I read a very lengthy
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article about it.
Like, you shouldn’t eat it and
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you wouldn’t definitely wouldn’t
want to eat a lot of it if you
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do.
But yeah, it’s not going to
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kill.
You probably wouldn’t even kill
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your pets.
Yeah, so they’re just saying
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like it’s not made for
consumption.
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Yeah.
It happens after that.
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Is he on you?
Because it does, it sure does
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have like, a salt packet kind of
aesthetic to it.
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Oh, yeah, so I could see people
mistaken it for a salt packet,
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back in the days when people had
salt packets in their home.
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I don’t know if that ever
happened, that’s restaurant
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shit.
Anyway, that was that was a that
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was a worthy deviation, but
let’s get back to UFOs, July
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1952 Berlin, man.
And metallic clothing.
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Again. 1952 this This is a weird
one.
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It happened in Berlin, a man and
his daughter were driving home
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when he blew a tire on his
motorcycle and he stops to pull
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over and fix it and the daughter
notices something laying in the
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road up ahead of them.
So he assumes it’s a deer and he
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goes to investigate and instead
of a deer, he claims.
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He saw two men dressed in shiny
metallic clothing.
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Stooped over and looking at
something lying on the ground
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who stylish, right?
I See those suits and flexible
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and as he got closer, he saw
quote a large object whose
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diameter is estimated to be
between 13 and 15 meters.
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It looked like a huge frying
pan.
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There were rows.
There were two rows of holes on
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its periphery about 30 cm in
circumference, the space between
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the two rows was about .45
meters on the top of this metal
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object was a black conical Tower
about Three meters high.
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That sounds cool.
It does.
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I would drive the shit out of
that.
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And he said that as he was
looking at all this, his
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daughter approach from behind in
called out to him, at which
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point the man in metallic
clothing scrambled to jump in
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the object that the man
described it.
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Then started glowing green
before taking off into the sky
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launching vertically.
And I because I’m great at this.
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I actually left a very important
detail out.
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For it took off into the sky.
It glowed green at first and
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then it was glowing blue as it
took off the sky just like that
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report.
Not too long ago.
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Yeah.
So look like a frying pan.
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They got to a frying pan.
So there was no roof on this
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object.
Yes.
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He frying pan, doesn’t sound
accurate because you’re right.
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If it had that conical Tower at
the top, then that had to be
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sitting on something.
So, yeah, I mean, couldn’t you
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just say round?
Like because now, Now I am kind
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of picturing just an actual
giant frying pan with a handle
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on it.
And that would be funny.
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If this was just like a carnival
ride.
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Yeah.
Put together piece of shit, but
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from space.
Yeah, I mean at first I was
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like, well, how does it look
like a deer and how do they get
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into this vehicle?
If it’s like flat, you know,
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like if it’s like a pan if it’s
flat with a you know, like a the
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column thing in the middle like
yeah, is it like an open?
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Is it like a like a Jeep version
of a UFO where it’s just In an
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Airy.
Yeah, I believe he said the
438
00:24:11,100 –> 00:24:16,800
sides opened up in a way that
the dudes could get in there.
439
00:24:17,100 –> 00:24:19,800
So maybe they could, they could
package their vehicles like, and
440
00:24:20,300 –> 00:24:22,800
they don’t have any issue.
Parking aliens.
441
00:24:22,900 –> 00:24:23,700
Right?
Right.
442
00:24:23,700 –> 00:24:28,100
Yeah, that was the part.
I didn’t get because he mentions
443
00:24:28,100 –> 00:24:31,300
like, yeah.
The, I don’t know how he mistook
444
00:24:31,300 –> 00:24:36,300
any of this for a deer because
two men and shiny metallic suits
445
00:24:36,300 –> 00:24:40,500
I would Definitely not assumed
was a dead deer in the road, and
446
00:24:40,500 –> 00:24:44,200
when he describes seeing this
craft, he says, he peeked over a
447
00:24:44,200 –> 00:24:47,300
fence and saw it.
So, now, what where was that
448
00:24:47,300 –> 00:24:49,900
fence?
Yeah, like that fence wasn’t in
449
00:24:49,900 –> 00:24:52,200
the middle of the road.
Was it like that would be, that
450
00:24:52,200 –> 00:24:54,500
would be way more alarming to me
than a deer.
451
00:24:54,900 –> 00:24:57,100
Someone just put up a fence in
the middle of the road.
452
00:24:57,100 –> 00:24:58,600
It’s like I’m driving through
it.
453
00:24:58,600 –> 00:25:01,000
But the road ends here, buddy.
Sorry.
454
00:25:01,000 –> 00:25:04,100
Yeah, it’s a weird sighting in
it.
455
00:25:04,200 –> 00:25:06,600
Seems like they didn’t
completely.
456
00:25:07,000 –> 00:25:08,900
Tim but they were also like why
would he lie?
457
00:25:09,000 –> 00:25:13,100
Like he doesn’t there’s not
really any motive form to lie
458
00:25:13,200 –> 00:25:17,200
and the report also mentions
though that other people in the
459
00:25:17,200 –> 00:25:20,800
area did report seeing something
that many of them described as
460
00:25:20,800 –> 00:25:24,900
quote a comet moving away from
the earth at the same time.
461
00:25:24,900 –> 00:25:28,000
So that would probably fit the
description of a UFO.
462
00:25:28,100 –> 00:25:31,600
A comet.
The description is different.
463
00:25:31,600 –> 00:25:33,500
It’s interesting.
Like, you know, if let’s say
464
00:25:33,500 –> 00:25:37,200
this vehicle is parked this
flying object is Mark.
465
00:25:37,200 –> 00:25:38,900
Yeah, maybe it does look a
frying pan.
466
00:25:38,900 –> 00:25:41,700
And who knows what kind of
Technology there is where you
467
00:25:41,700 –> 00:25:46,900
know it in the air.
It’s a full spacecraft.
468
00:25:46,900 –> 00:25:51,500
Yeah, I mean it would have more
of a like a comet appearance.
469
00:25:51,800 –> 00:25:55,400
Frying pans do have lids though.
So maybe he meant it look like a
470
00:25:55,408 –> 00:25:59,300
frying pan with a lid on it.
I don’t know, I did.
471
00:25:59,500 –> 00:26:02,200
Yeah.
I know someone here isn’t there
472
00:26:02,200 –> 00:26:06,300
is a really interesting quote
from the man who witnessed this
473
00:26:06,400 –> 00:26:08,100
in the report.
Here goes the quote.
474
00:26:08,100 –> 00:26:12,100
I had never heard of the term
Flying Saucer before I escaped
475
00:26:12,100 –> 00:26:14,800
from the Soviet zone into West
Berlin.
476
00:26:14,900 –> 00:26:18,300
When I saw this object, I
immediately thought that it was
477
00:26:18,300 –> 00:26:22,600
a new Soviet military machine.
I confess that I was seized with
478
00:26:22,600 –> 00:26:26,100
fright because the Soviets do
not want anyone to know about
479
00:26:26,100 –> 00:26:28,100
their work.
Many persons have been
480
00:26:28,100 –> 00:26:31,500
restricted to their movements
for many years in East Germany,
481
00:26:31,700 –> 00:26:36,300
because they know too much.
Now, here’s what’s interesting
482
00:26:36,300 –> 00:26:40,900
about That to me, one of the
things we’ll get into in a later
483
00:26:40,900 –> 00:26:45,000
episode and we’ve touched on it
on this podcast before is this
484
00:26:45,000 –> 00:26:49,900
Theory called Project Blue beam
that theory claims that.
485
00:26:49,900 –> 00:26:54,700
At some point, the United States
is going to basically fake an
486
00:26:54,700 –> 00:26:59,400
alien invasion as a means of
taking over the world and
487
00:26:59,400 –> 00:27:01,300
ushering in a one world
government.
488
00:27:01,300 –> 00:27:05,700
And one of the people that the
CIA is the most interested in in
489
00:27:05,700 –> 00:27:09,300
these files as a guide.
Dr. Leon Davidson, and Leon
490
00:27:09,300 –> 00:27:13,300
Davidson’s theory, was that the
CIA was faking all of this for
491
00:27:13,300 –> 00:27:17,700
that same reason because they
were going to use UFOs to
492
00:27:17,700 –> 00:27:21,700
basically suppress rights of
people in the United States and
493
00:27:21,700 –> 00:27:23,000
abroad.
Of course.
494
00:27:23,000 –> 00:27:26,200
And I got to kind of wonder if
that’s why there’s so many
495
00:27:26,200 –> 00:27:29,100
sightings and like 52, 53 and
54.
496
00:27:29,100 –> 00:27:32,200
Because what if the CIA was
faking this shit.
497
00:27:32,200 –> 00:27:34,800
Oh like they were trying to
bring it on earlier.
498
00:27:35,000 –> 00:27:38,600
Yeah, I mean will prolong the
Next episode, we talked about
499
00:27:38,600 –> 00:27:41,900
how they were planning to use it
for psychological warfare.
500
00:27:41,900 –> 00:27:47,100
But there’s it is strange that
there’s this huge proliferation
501
00:27:47,100 –> 00:27:51,300
of UFOs, right.
Around the same time the CIA
502
00:27:51,300 –> 00:27:54,700
starts deciding.
I wonder if we could fake those
503
00:27:54,800 –> 00:27:59,900
and use them for our own means
and they sure make a point of
504
00:27:59,900 –> 00:28:03,300
documenting damn near every
sighting from that point on.
505
00:28:03,400 –> 00:28:06,100
And it was definitely it’s
definitely like the United
506
00:28:06,100 –> 00:28:10,300
States in general.
To pin something on the Soviet
507
00:28:10,300 –> 00:28:14,100
Union which there was a make it
go down smoother with the public
508
00:28:14,200 –> 00:28:17,300
especially back then.
So it was a it was propaganda
509
00:28:17,300 –> 00:28:19,700
with the production budget kind
of.
510
00:28:19,708 –> 00:28:22,000
Yeah.
I mean that’s that’s a lot of
511
00:28:22,200 –> 00:28:23,500
this country.
Yeah.
512
00:28:23,500 –> 00:28:26,400
It’s interesting because around
the time was there.
513
00:28:26,400 –> 00:28:29,400
A lot of fear around UFOs.
I know there’s definitely fear
514
00:28:29,400 –> 00:28:34,400
about her about the Soviet Union
because the US government
515
00:28:34,400 –> 00:28:36,400
wouldn’t have it any other way
at the time.
516
00:28:36,600 –> 00:28:37,200
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
517
00:28:37,200 –> 00:28:43,000
Yeah, I think there was because
Roswell happened in 47 and that
518
00:28:43,000 –> 00:28:46,000
really kicked things off,
because that when Roswell was
519
00:28:46,000 –> 00:28:49,500
first reported, they were like,
we found a fucking UFO and there
520
00:28:49,500 –> 00:28:51,900
are aliens in it and then like,
three days later.
521
00:28:51,900 –> 00:28:54,900
The government was like, no, it
was, it was a weather balloon
522
00:28:55,400 –> 00:28:57,600
with aliens in it.
Why were they in there?
523
00:28:57,900 –> 00:29:00,600
So, these reports had started
getting out in.
524
00:29:00,600 –> 00:29:05,800
A lot of the reports in these
files are news reports from
525
00:29:05,900 –> 00:29:09,000
other countries.
Especially in the earlier ones
526
00:29:09,300 –> 00:29:12,900
and also the 90s in the 90s.
I think being in the CIA just
527
00:29:12,900 –> 00:29:16,100
meant you watched foreign
television and write down
528
00:29:16,100 –> 00:29:19,400
anything interesting that
happens because that’s what most
529
00:29:19,400 –> 00:29:22,400
of the files are in the 90s and
that would have been great TV
530
00:29:22,400 –> 00:29:26,100
reviews.
Yeah, I would love fucking recap
531
00:29:26,100 –> 00:29:29,000
and Al Jazeera for the CIA.
Sure, whatever.
532
00:29:30,000 –> 00:29:33,700
That would be such a easy job.
I’d rather do someone other than
533
00:29:33,700 –> 00:29:36,800
Al Jazeera, like I would watch
one America news.
534
00:29:36,900 –> 00:29:38,700
Work.
Yeah, and document it for the
535
00:29:38,700 –> 00:29:42,300
CIA but they probably started
that to this.
536
00:29:42,300 –> 00:29:45,800
Next file is one of my
favorites.
537
00:29:45,900 –> 00:29:49,800
It doesn’t pertain to an actual
UFO sighting.
538
00:29:49,800 –> 00:29:56,200
It is it’s a dated November 1955
and it’s a letter from an
539
00:29:56,300 –> 00:30:02,000
unidentified, probably a CIA
asset in Belgian Congo.
540
00:30:02,000 –> 00:30:05,900
And he’s asking if he can buy
this, certain type of telescope
541
00:30:05,900 –> 00:30:08,400
that I don’t know.
The American government only had
542
00:30:08,400 –> 00:30:12,800
access to at the time but this
he seems to be under the
543
00:30:12,800 –> 00:30:17,100
assumption that this telescope
is the key to seeing these UFOs
544
00:30:17,100 –> 00:30:20,700
for yourself and it is some
sassy.
545
00:30:20,700 –> 00:30:24,400
Let me speak to your manager
shit, and I love it.
546
00:30:24,400 –> 00:30:27,100
Here is these are the two
paragraphs from the letter that
547
00:30:27,100 –> 00:30:29,500
are in the file as you
Americans.
548
00:30:29,500 –> 00:30:34,700
Do not want to tell us what the
so stupidly called flying
549
00:30:34,700 –> 00:30:38,500
saucers are and Of all what they
want.
550
00:30:38,500 –> 00:30:40,700
In this may be very important in
the future.
551
00:30:40,700 –> 00:30:44,600
I need your excellent telescope
for myself in my observation
552
00:30:44,600 –> 00:30:47,700
Group, which I am just starting.
The UFOs are coming more and
553
00:30:47,700 –> 00:30:52,500
more over this country and owing
perhaps to the very nature of
554
00:30:52,500 –> 00:30:55,100
this land and it’s beautiful
nights.
555
00:30:55,100 –> 00:31:00,500
We here look more often in the
sky than the busy Americans damn
556
00:31:00,500 –> 00:31:05,000
shots fired.
He is salty AF, but he also
557
00:31:05,000 –> 00:31:08,800
seems like he still thinks he’s
going to get Telescope like he
558
00:31:08,800 –> 00:31:11,100
can talk to the CIA.
However, the fuck he wants
559
00:31:11,200 –> 00:31:12,900
because this is the last
paragraph.
560
00:31:12,900 –> 00:31:16,000
When telling me the prices.
Please remember that the packing
561
00:31:16,000 –> 00:31:19,400
must be almost armor-plated
because otherwise, the local
562
00:31:19,400 –> 00:31:21,500
vandals May destroy the
telescope.
563
00:31:21,700 –> 00:31:25,500
Even before it reaches me.
I wonder how the CIA took.
564
00:31:25,500 –> 00:31:27,800
It like someone telling them how
to do their job.
565
00:31:28,200 –> 00:31:32,000
What if this was like that last
part was just in the delivery
566
00:31:32,000 –> 00:31:35,600
instructions box.
Yeah, delivery notes.
567
00:31:35,900 –> 00:31:41,600
Um, Delivery notes Rebels won’t
let Aid through to my country,
568
00:31:41,700 –> 00:31:43,800
but you know what?
Like these are valid like, do
569
00:31:43,800 –> 00:31:46,200
you know how many packages?
UPS packages.
570
00:31:46,200 –> 00:31:48,900
I have stolen from our lobby?
Oh, yeah.
571
00:31:48,900 –> 00:31:52,500
I don’t steal that I’m saying my
packages that have been hadn’t
572
00:31:52,500 –> 00:31:54,500
stolen.
Oh my God.
573
00:31:55,400 –> 00:31:57,800
Yeah, you gotta you gotta think
about these things.
574
00:31:58,100 –> 00:32:03,800
Yeah, and if you’re a CIA asset,
which this guy had to be because
575
00:32:04,100 –> 00:32:08,000
the CIA got this letter, but
also it says, In the beginning
576
00:32:08,000 –> 00:32:11,300
that they receive this letter at
and then it’s redacted.
577
00:32:11,300 –> 00:32:13,500
So you don’t know exactly where
he sent it.
578
00:32:13,500 –> 00:32:17,300
But if you are any kind of
government asset in Belgian
579
00:32:17,300 –> 00:32:21,500
Congo and you’re just seeing
UFOs every fucking night and you
580
00:32:21,500 –> 00:32:24,300
asked the CIA and they’re like,
we can’t tell you what that’s
581
00:32:24,300 –> 00:32:25,000
about.
Like.
582
00:32:25,000 –> 00:32:28,300
It’d be one thing if they were
like, well, no either man, but
583
00:32:28,300 –> 00:32:30,900
they’re like we can’t tell you.
Yeah, of course, you’re gonna
584
00:32:30,900 –> 00:32:34,000
want to be like fine.
I’ll figure it out myself as if
585
00:32:34,000 –> 00:32:36,100
it’s that easy.
It’s like just send me your
586
00:32:36,100 –> 00:32:38,000
best.
Maybe because you guys are
587
00:32:38,000 –> 00:32:40,500
wasting your time.
With your technology.
588
00:32:40,800 –> 00:32:42,900
You build me an observatory,
please.
589
00:32:43,400 –> 00:32:46,800
I’ll expect it tomorrow.
I hope that guy got that
590
00:32:46,800 –> 00:32:50,100
telescope Dudu.
He’s really kind of the underdog
591
00:32:50,100 –> 00:32:53,700
little entitled.
But, you know, it’s a CIA so
592
00:32:54,100 –> 00:32:57,800
they can, they can handle some
sass be bummed if he didn’t get
593
00:32:57,800 –> 00:33:01,000
it.
Another file that’s in there.
594
00:33:01,300 –> 00:33:04,100
This one.
I don’t remember the date.
595
00:33:04,100 –> 00:33:09,700
I think it’s 1958 though.
And this is it doesn’t deal
596
00:33:09,700 –> 00:33:13,400
directly with a UFO sighting.
It’s just a creepy letter about
597
00:33:13,400 –> 00:33:18,000
a guy who took some photos of a
UFO and one of the things that’s
598
00:33:18,000 –> 00:33:22,700
creepy about it is it’s just
blatantly the CIA spying on
599
00:33:22,900 –> 00:33:25,300
American citizens at one point
there.
600
00:33:25,300 –> 00:33:28,200
Even like hey, we already have
somewhat of a file on this guy
601
00:33:28,200 –> 00:33:30,700
because we’re spies.
And on his friend in the process
602
00:33:30,700 –> 00:33:35,600
of something else, but we know
that this is them spying on an
603
00:33:35,600 –> 00:33:39,200
average citizen because the
report begins with quote, it has
604
00:33:39,200 –> 00:33:42,200
come to my attention that a
civilian has been experimenting
605
00:33:42,200 –> 00:33:45,300
with new kinds of films and
emulsions, which he has been
606
00:33:45,300 –> 00:33:49,400
exposing through a telescope set
up in his backyard here in
607
00:33:49,400 –> 00:33:53,100
Washington and quote.
And also, for some reason, there
608
00:33:53,100 –> 00:33:58,700
are a bunch of redacted words
between civilian and has been so
609
00:33:58,800 –> 00:34:03,000
The the sentence reads, it has
come to my attention, that a
610
00:34:03,000 –> 00:34:07,300
civilian and then it looks like
maybe five or six words are
611
00:34:07,300 –> 00:34:09,699
redacted.
And then it says has been.
612
00:34:09,699 –> 00:34:15,600
So I’m assuming his identity,
probably where he works or
613
00:34:15,900 –> 00:34:18,500
something along those lines.
Yeah, maybe his name or his
614
00:34:18,500 –> 00:34:23,800
address and the person riding
the document mentions that one
615
00:34:23,800 –> 00:34:26,300
of his men.
That’s a quote was at this guy’s
616
00:34:26,300 –> 00:34:28,699
place in the course of an
investigation.
617
00:34:29,000 –> 00:34:33,699
Into some sort of photographic
process, the name of what they
618
00:34:33,699 –> 00:34:38,100
were investigating is also
redacted, but it was some sort
619
00:34:38,100 –> 00:34:41,300
of photographic process that
took really good pictures of the
620
00:34:41,308 –> 00:34:43,900
sky is basically what it sounds
like.
621
00:34:43,900 –> 00:34:48,900
And during that investigation
this agent noticed what appeared
622
00:34:48,900 –> 00:34:54,900
to be a bunch of like remarkably
clear UFO photos and this letter
623
00:34:54,900 –> 00:34:58,600
is about well, how are we going
to get these photos from this
624
00:34:58,600 –> 00:34:59,200
guy?
Guy.
625
00:34:59,200 –> 00:35:04,100
And there’s a sentence where it
says that he is is a quote
626
00:35:04,100 –> 00:35:09,000
exceedingly kg in his handling
of these materials and would not
627
00:35:09,000 –> 00:35:13,700
permit anyone to borrow any of
these materials and quote, and
628
00:35:13,700 –> 00:35:17,800
that he quote, again appears to
feel that he has some real
629
00:35:17,800 –> 00:35:22,500
evidence of the existence of
unidentified flying objects in
630
00:35:22,500 –> 00:35:25,800
his photography and I am sure he
would consider delivering them
631
00:35:25,800 –> 00:35:28,600
to somebody only for a price
yet.
632
00:35:28,900 –> 00:35:31,700
Specified, you spot it.
You got it.
633
00:35:31,700 –> 00:35:34,600
And for some reason, it’s the
next sentence that creeps me
634
00:35:34,600 –> 00:35:35,800
out.
Most here.
635
00:35:35,800 –> 00:35:40,100
It goes, my copy of this
memorandum to name, redacted
636
00:35:40,100 –> 00:35:43,300
would bring him up to date on
this subject in case you would
637
00:35:43,300 –> 00:35:45,800
like to take it up unilaterally
with him.
638
00:35:45,900 –> 00:35:49,500
Oh, wow, who is that guy?
And what’s he gonna do?
639
00:35:49,500 –> 00:35:51,900
If they take it up unilaterally
with him.
640
00:35:52,000 –> 00:35:55,300
He is the cleanup guy and he
does not need anyone’s
641
00:35:55,300 –> 00:35:58,700
permission to handle this, you
know, do what you gotta do.
642
00:35:58,800 –> 00:36:02,700
Do, that’s are unilateral power.
There’s a documentary called
643
00:36:02,700 –> 00:36:05,400
wormwood that we covered on this
podcast.
644
00:36:05,400 –> 00:36:08,400
It’s on Netflix.
And they talked in that
645
00:36:08,400 –> 00:36:12,000
documentary about how there are
two kinds of CIA agents.
646
00:36:12,000 –> 00:36:16,000
There are the analysts who go
out and get information like
647
00:36:16,000 –> 00:36:18,000
this.
And then there’s the other guys
648
00:36:18,100 –> 00:36:22,500
who go out and take care of
information like this, if they
649
00:36:22,500 –> 00:36:26,500
need to.
And the only thing now because
650
00:36:26,500 –> 00:36:30,300
even then they they say that
those Analysts, like if they
651
00:36:30,300 –> 00:36:32,800
need to contact one of those
people, they can.
652
00:36:32,800 –> 00:36:36,800
So the fact that he knows this
guy’s name doesn’t really make
653
00:36:36,800 –> 00:36:39,500
it any more comforting.
I don’t know.
654
00:36:39,500 –> 00:36:42,100
It’s just, it’s feel.
It’s feels like an ominous
655
00:36:42,100 –> 00:36:43,600
sentence.
Yeah.
656
00:36:43,600 –> 00:36:46,100
I mean unilaterally, it’s like
it just set.
657
00:36:46,100 –> 00:36:50,400
The implication is do what you
have to do, right, you know,
658
00:36:50,400 –> 00:36:55,000
based on what the situation is.
But like also describing him is
659
00:36:55,000 –> 00:36:58,000
exceedingly kg.
It’s like this dude is literally
660
00:36:58,000 –> 00:37:02,000
being spied on Don.
Yeah, he’s being spied on by his
661
00:37:02,000 –> 00:37:03,800
people.
He thinks are friends.
662
00:37:03,900 –> 00:37:08,100
No less because the well, I
guess I don’t know why the the
663
00:37:08,100 –> 00:37:10,000
guy was at his place.
But yeah.
664
00:37:10,000 –> 00:37:12,900
Also the well, no, because
they’re also investigating one
665
00:37:12,900 –> 00:37:16,000
of his friends because they’re
all they’re trying to get more
666
00:37:16,000 –> 00:37:18,300
details and what this like,
you’re the CIA.
667
00:37:18,300 –> 00:37:20,900
Can’t you just ask what this
photo process is.
668
00:37:21,500 –> 00:37:23,900
Like you’re you’re out here
whipping up UFOs.
669
00:37:23,900 –> 00:37:27,000
You can’t whip up the technology
to take good pictures of them.
670
00:37:27,000 –> 00:37:28,700
Take a fucking picture of it
while it’s still.
671
00:37:28,800 –> 00:37:31,900
The garage before you send it up
and then just paste that into
672
00:37:31,900 –> 00:37:33,400
stuff.
So, weird.
673
00:37:33,700 –> 00:37:37,300
It’s a weird is a very weird
document and there’s a lot of
674
00:37:37,300 –> 00:37:39,000
them like this.
There’s a lot of them where
675
00:37:39,000 –> 00:37:43,100
they’re like, just watching
people relentlessly probably all
676
00:37:43,100 –> 00:37:45,300
of us.
Yes, especially with technology
677
00:37:45,300 –> 00:37:47,400
now.
Yeah, so much easier.
678
00:37:47,500 –> 00:37:49,400
I hope they’re enjoying this
episode.
679
00:37:49,600 –> 00:37:51,700
I’m sure they are.
It’s entertaining at the very
680
00:37:51,700 –> 00:37:53,400
least for them.
Maybe.
681
00:37:53,600 –> 00:37:56,200
Yeah.
That one of the things you see a
682
00:37:56,200 –> 00:38:00,400
lot in CIA files.
Is at some point there will just
683
00:38:00,400 –> 00:38:04,500
be like article after article
after article of like whatever
684
00:38:04,500 –> 00:38:06,900
subject it is.
And I like to think if I have a
685
00:38:06,900 –> 00:38:12,300
CIA file, it’s just like an RSS
feed my podcast, like that would
686
00:38:12,300 –> 00:38:14,900
be my nightmare.
If I filed a Freedom of
687
00:38:14,900 –> 00:38:18,800
Information Act requests on my
own name and they sent it to me
688
00:38:18,800 –> 00:38:20,700
and it was just a list of all my
podcasts.
689
00:38:20,700 –> 00:38:23,800
I’d be like, oh, come on.
Nothing else.
690
00:38:23,800 –> 00:38:27,900
You’re listening, bastards.
Give me some feedback, and
691
00:38:27,900 –> 00:38:30,000
there’s one episode.
So redacted, and I have to
692
00:38:30,000 –> 00:38:33,600
figure out one that is, what was
I talking about?
693
00:38:34,000 –> 00:38:37,200
So let’s talk about, let’s go
back to 1952.
694
00:38:37,200 –> 00:38:42,500
Here comes another 1952 citing,
this time in Norway, in Norway,
695
00:38:42,500 –> 00:38:46,200
August 1952.
Interesting part about this is
696
00:38:46,200 –> 00:38:52,100
this UFO crashed and there is a
detailed description of the
697
00:38:52,100 –> 00:38:55,600
examination of that UFO.
The report claims that a team of
698
00:38:55,600 –> 00:38:58,500
Norwegian and German rocket
experts.
699
00:38:58,700 –> 00:39:02,700
Went to the site of a UFO crash
and discovered.
700
00:39:02,800 –> 00:39:07,000
Here’s a quote, a radio piloting
transmitter with a nucleus of
701
00:39:07,000 –> 00:39:13,200
plutonium transmitting on all
wavelengths with 934 hurts.
702
00:39:13,500 –> 00:39:16,300
A measure that has been unknown
so far.
703
00:39:16,300 –> 00:39:17,700
So that’s weird.
Yeah.
704
00:39:17,800 –> 00:39:21,100
It also says the investigation
showed that the saucer crashed
705
00:39:21,100 –> 00:39:24,900
because of a defect in its radio
piloting system and that it was
706
00:39:24,900 –> 00:39:29,500
constructed from an unknown
alloy and the Ask quote, which
707
00:39:29,500 –> 00:39:32,800
sounds a lot like they’re
talking about something similar
708
00:39:32,800 –> 00:39:36,700
to what was spotted in that
early siding with the sixteen
709
00:39:36,700 –> 00:39:38,700
ships.
And then one in the middle is a
710
00:39:38,700 –> 00:39:43,200
quote, it consists of an
exterior disc provided at its
711
00:39:43,200 –> 00:39:46,200
peripheral with 16 automatic
Jets.
712
00:39:46,200 –> 00:39:50,200
This disk pivots around the
central sphere which contains
713
00:39:50,200 –> 00:39:53,400
the measurement and remote
control equipment, but was it
714
00:39:53,400 –> 00:39:56,200
drop and white particles?
That’s what I want to know.
715
00:39:56,800 –> 00:39:59,900
Well, glass is in a great.
Great insulation.
716
00:39:59,900 –> 00:40:02,900
It sounds like stuff that in the
walls of your home.
717
00:40:02,900 –> 00:40:05,400
So I know something that they’re
going to tell us like, all
718
00:40:05,400 –> 00:40:08,000
right, this is cancerous.
Yeah, it’s probably how they
719
00:40:08,000 –> 00:40:11,300
spread whatever disease was
annihilating us in the 50s,
720
00:40:11,300 –> 00:40:14,100
polio still.
I don’t know when we cured polio
721
00:40:14,300 –> 00:40:19,500
also the last line of that UFO
examination.
722
00:40:19,500 –> 00:40:21,400
Report.
The measurement instructions
723
00:40:21,400 –> 00:40:25,200
have an inscription in Russian.
Do they drop the mic there?
724
00:40:25,500 –> 00:40:29,900
Yeah, they did.
And again I’m like, % inclined
725
00:40:29,900 –> 00:40:34,300
to believe Russia was building
UFOs and that the CIA was faking
726
00:40:34,300 –> 00:40:37,400
UFOs.
Like if you put the if you slid,
727
00:40:37,400 –> 00:40:41,700
the answer to me in an envelope
across the table and I opened it
728
00:40:41,900 –> 00:40:42,900
either way.
I’d go.
729
00:40:43,300 –> 00:40:46,700
Yeah, that makes sense.
Either explanation would not
730
00:40:46,700 –> 00:40:50,600
surprise me because the CIA
could put a Russian inscription
731
00:40:50,600 –> 00:40:52,700
on something.
They built that’s probably they
732
00:40:52,700 –> 00:40:55,500
probably would do that.
If it was some kind of
733
00:40:55,900 –> 00:40:59,600
Technology like this.
Yeah, who Knows then there’s the
734
00:40:59,600 –> 00:41:01,200
Mystery Train.
Citing.
735
00:41:01,200 –> 00:41:05,400
This is the last one.
I love this one because this is
736
00:41:05,400 –> 00:41:09,900
the most secret one, but it also
has so many details to it.
737
00:41:09,900 –> 00:41:14,000
We know it happened on a train
and just from the way it’s
738
00:41:14,000 –> 00:41:16,700
written like compared to all the
other files.
739
00:41:17,100 –> 00:41:20,100
It either happened in the 50s or
60s and I’m leaning toward the
740
00:41:20,107 –> 00:41:25,200
50s, but even the date is not
specified and all the country
741
00:41:25,200 –> 00:41:28,600
names are redacted, all the
names of the people.
742
00:41:28,700 –> 00:41:31,100
Evolved.
It has none of that but it also
743
00:41:31,100 –> 00:41:36,300
has so many Rich details about
what the train looked like how
744
00:41:36,300 –> 00:41:40,100
the train was laid out, some
creepy stuff about the civilians
745
00:41:40,100 –> 00:41:43,400
who are in the compartments
around them, like after reading
746
00:41:43,400 –> 00:41:45,600
that.
If anyone walks up to me in
747
00:41:45,600 –> 00:41:47,500
public and Strikes up a
conversation.
748
00:41:47,500 –> 00:41:51,400
I’m going to be like CIA.
Not telling you anything.
749
00:41:51,500 –> 00:41:53,400
My Name is Earl.
My Name is Earl.
750
00:41:53,400 –> 00:41:57,200
Like the TV show.
Yeah, so everything’s redacted
751
00:41:57,200 –> 00:41:59,100
and it’s clear that who’s
writing this.
752
00:41:59,100 –> 00:42:01,600
The person riding.
This is on some kind of
753
00:42:01,600 –> 00:42:05,700
Espionage or detail gathering
mission somewhere.
754
00:42:05,700 –> 00:42:10,200
They’ve it sounds like they have
infiltrated some country as part
755
00:42:10,200 –> 00:42:13,000
of a tour and group.
But other than that, when I say
756
00:42:13,000 –> 00:42:17,300
it’s detailed, I mean like, 15
pages T tailed like there’s tons
757
00:42:17,300 –> 00:42:19,500
of details about the incident
itself.
758
00:42:19,500 –> 00:42:24,300
So at one point during their on
a train leaving some, we’re
759
00:42:24,300 –> 00:42:27,300
headed somewhere, all that’s
blacked out and at one point
760
00:42:27,300 –> 00:42:31,200
during the trip, someone Runs
into the compartment that the
761
00:42:31,200 –> 00:42:33,300
writer of this report is in and
yells.
762
00:42:33,400 –> 00:42:38,800
I just saw a flying saucer and
everyone ran to that guy’s cabin
763
00:42:38,900 –> 00:42:42,000
turned off the lights and
witness something that looked
764
00:42:42,000 –> 00:42:45,700
like the end of a search light,
but with no beam coming up from
765
00:42:45,700 –> 00:42:48,600
the ground, like you would see
with a Searchlight, but then
766
00:42:48,600 –> 00:42:51,400
they realize that is a
Searchlight and they can see
767
00:42:51,400 –> 00:42:54,000
what it’s searching for.
And this is a quote, it
768
00:42:54,000 –> 00:42:56,600
swirling.
I then noticed an object
769
00:42:56,600 –> 00:42:58,500
slightly to the right of the
search light.
770
00:42:58,700 –> 00:43:02,200
Right, it had two shining eyes
and seem to be rising
771
00:43:02,200 –> 00:43:04,600
vertically.
It then seemed to change course
772
00:43:04,600 –> 00:43:08,600
and to approach the Train on
more of a horizontal course, but
773
00:43:08,600 –> 00:43:13,200
still ascending slightly and
what’s fascinating about this?
774
00:43:13,400 –> 00:43:16,700
Not just all the secrecy.
But the thing that happens.
775
00:43:16,700 –> 00:43:22,200
Next, the porter on the train,
walks into this cabin and just
776
00:43:22,200 –> 00:43:25,700
pulls down the blinds and goes,
It’s better this way.
777
00:43:26,500 –> 00:43:30,000
So mysterious it is.
Like, what do you know?
778
00:43:30,100 –> 00:43:33,400
And in the report?
The guy says he gets the sense
779
00:43:33,400 –> 00:43:37,200
that they were traveling through
some kind of restricted area and
780
00:43:37,200 –> 00:43:41,000
that this Porter was supposed to
pull down the shades, no matter
781
00:43:41,000 –> 00:43:42,900
what.
And while he’s doing that.
782
00:43:42,900 –> 00:43:44,800
They’re like fucking UFO out
there.
783
00:43:44,800 –> 00:43:49,000
So that’s weird timing.
And then you get to see all
784
00:43:49,000 –> 00:43:53,800
kinds of CIA spy, shit about
them, like, trying to figure out
785
00:43:53,800 –> 00:43:56,800
where exactly they are.
They’re like, okay, ask him.
786
00:43:56,800 –> 00:43:59,200
What station?
We just passed and then ask what
787
00:43:59,200 –> 00:44:02,000
station were going to next,
which is smart because then
788
00:44:02,000 –> 00:44:05,200
you’re going to be able to
really get narrow down.
789
00:44:05,200 –> 00:44:05,700
What?
Yeah?
790
00:44:05,700 –> 00:44:09,100
What part of the country you
were in and the porter refuses
791
00:44:09,100 –> 00:44:14,000
to tell them he was being cagey.
He he was, they’re gonna have to
792
00:44:14,000 –> 00:44:16,400
send that guy to deal with it.
Unilaterally.
793
00:44:17,400 –> 00:44:19,400
What if that guy was already on
the train.
794
00:44:19,600 –> 00:44:22,300
He’s just in the compartment.
Like, let me give me the word.
795
00:44:22,400 –> 00:44:24,200
Give me the words.
Small community.
796
00:44:24,300 –> 00:44:26,400
Give me the fucking word.
I’ll get the names of those
797
00:44:26,400 –> 00:44:28,000
stations.
He pulls out of fucking
798
00:44:28,000 –> 00:44:30,800
suitcase.
With syringes and saws in it.
799
00:44:30,900 –> 00:44:34,600
Calm down Larry.
Of course, it’s a Larry.
800
00:44:35,900 –> 00:44:38,100
I think they do eventually get
the name.
801
00:44:38,100 –> 00:44:39,700
Well, they get the name of the
next station.
802
00:44:39,700 –> 00:44:43,500
They went to because they passed
it or no, they stopped there but
803
00:44:43,800 –> 00:44:46,600
I don’t think they ever got the
name of the previous station,
804
00:44:46,900 –> 00:44:50,800
but you’d be able to dig deep
for a probably be able to narrow
805
00:44:50,800 –> 00:44:53,000
it down.
I mean, you’re not going to go
806
00:44:53,000 –> 00:44:56,600
home and Google it in the 1950s,
but I’m sure they had resources
807
00:44:56,700 –> 00:44:58,500
and he called the library back
then.
808
00:44:59,000 –> 00:45:00,300
Do you ever have to do that?
As a kid?
809
00:45:00,400 –> 00:45:02,600
That was the internet before
there was the internet, you call
810
00:45:02,600 –> 00:45:05,400
the library.
What’s the capital of Alabama?
811
00:45:05,400 –> 00:45:10,100
Hope the librarian isn’t feeling
saucy that day in lies to you.
812
00:45:10,200 –> 00:45:13,800
So I yeah, I didn’t call the, I
didn’t call like the librarian
813
00:45:13,800 –> 00:45:18,100
like, they were asked Jeeves and
it used the library that way.
814
00:45:18,100 –> 00:45:20,700
What a fool I am.
Yeah, you totally could.
815
00:45:20,700 –> 00:45:23,000
Yeah.
Library, like, back back then
816
00:45:23,100 –> 00:45:26,000
because you’re not going to run
to the fucking library to find
817
00:45:26,000 –> 00:45:29,800
out some nitpicky detail.
Like That yes call up the
818
00:45:29,800 –> 00:45:31,500
librarian bother her with that
shit.
819
00:45:31,600 –> 00:45:36,600
So whip out her encyclopedias.
So yeah, that’s that’s the last
820
00:45:36,600 –> 00:45:39,100
sighting that we’re talking
about on this episode.
821
00:45:39,100 –> 00:45:43,000
There are there are a lot more
interesting ones in those files
822
00:45:43,100 –> 00:45:46,700
and probably do an episode about
the rest of them, but I don’t
823
00:45:46,700 –> 00:45:50,400
know something about the 1950s
and especially the early 1950s
824
00:45:51,300 –> 00:45:53,200
1952.
Yeah.
825
00:45:53,200 –> 00:45:57,000
That is that’s the year.
That’s that’s the that’s the
826
00:45:57,000 –> 00:45:59,200
draft class.
That’s when all the The stars
827
00:45:59,200 –> 00:46:01,800
came out 1952.
I don’t know.
828
00:46:02,200 –> 00:46:06,900
And also by 1953 in there’s
other reports that we’re going
829
00:46:06,900 –> 00:46:12,400
to cover the CIA by 1953 is like
don’t tell anyone we’ve been
830
00:46:12,400 –> 00:46:17,300
involved in any of this.
They sponsor a report in 1952
831
00:46:17,300 –> 00:46:21,400
about UFOs and by 1953.
They’re like don’t tell anyone
832
00:46:21,500 –> 00:46:25,200
don’t you didn’t see us, we
didn’t we don’t we just leave
833
00:46:25,200 –> 00:46:28,500
our name out of it, which I also
find kind of suspicious.
834
00:46:28,900 –> 00:46:32,900
But at first they were like, oh,
this is a threat psychological
835
00:46:32,900 –> 00:46:35,800
warfare implications.
And then they’re just like, we
836
00:46:35,800 –> 00:46:38,200
didn’t say that.
You said that, I didn’t say
837
00:46:38,200 –> 00:46:39,700
that.
Did you hear?
838
00:46:40,300 –> 00:46:42,800
They’re being cagey.
We don’t ya.
839
00:46:43,000 –> 00:46:46,800
How come the public doesn’t have
a guy to call when the CIA is
840
00:46:46,800 –> 00:46:49,200
being cagey.
I know there’s a could take it
841
00:46:49,200 –> 00:46:52,400
up unilaterally with him and
then he goes and gets us all the
842
00:46:52,400 –> 00:46:56,300
information we need about where
this fucking train was going to.
843
00:46:56,300 –> 00:47:00,400
And from I got a briefcase I can
put Syringes in it right?
844
00:47:00,400 –> 00:47:03,200
Nice size.
Yeah, who knows?
845
00:47:03,200 –> 00:47:06,100
You know, just let me know what
you need.
846
00:47:06,200 –> 00:47:09,000
I got you.
It’s better this way.
847
00:47:09,800 –> 00:47:12,200
It’s better this way.
We close the curtain.
848
00:47:13,900 –> 00:47:16,200
I’m going to say that any time I
do anything.
849
00:47:16,200 –> 00:47:20,400
Someone even moderately, doesn’t
like, anyway, we should probably
850
00:47:20,400 –> 00:47:23,400
wrap this episode up.
Let’s wrap it up.
851
00:47:23,400 –> 00:47:25,900
This is a, do you have anything
to plug before we get out of
852
00:47:25,900 –> 00:47:27,900
here?
Yeah, just hit me up on the
853
00:47:27,900 –> 00:47:29,100
Internet.
Stay in touch.
854
00:47:29,100 –> 00:47:31,900
I’m at fizzled.
Asani on all platforms,
855
00:47:31,900 –> 00:47:36,900
Instagram, Twitter Clubhouse,
all of that good stuff.
856
00:47:37,000 –> 00:47:43,700
I’ll spell it.
Fi Z, AA, A.D. 0 s a And I
857
00:47:43,700 –> 00:47:47,300
please note, there is one Z and
two A’s in my first name and
858
00:47:47,300 –> 00:47:49,000
Dasani.
Sounds like the water but it’s
859
00:47:49,000 –> 00:47:50,800
not dea.
It’s Dio.
860
00:47:51,000 –> 00:47:52,200
And yes, I’m aware.
My name.
861
00:47:52,200 –> 00:47:53,800
Sounds like a carbonated
beverage.
862
00:47:53,800 –> 00:47:55,600
Thanks.
Are you aware?
863
00:47:55,600 –> 00:47:57,100
Your name?
Sounds like a carbonated
864
00:47:57,100 –> 00:47:58,900
beverage.
Yes, sir.
865
00:47:59,200 –> 00:48:04,100
Um, patreon.com on pop sun pops
Network dot super cast out Tech,
866
00:48:04,200 –> 00:48:06,800
and I think that’s it.
Let’s get the fuck out of here.
867
00:48:06,800 –> 00:48:07,900
Physicists say good.
Bye.
868
00:48:08,000 –> 00:48:09,900
Bye.
Y’all goodbye everybody.
869
00:48:09,900 –> 00:48:10,400
We love you.