Adam and special guests Jenn Scott and Jessica Singer discuss a documentary about that time a sasquatch maybe committed a triple homicide on a weed farm in Northern California.
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I went through the transparent
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Hey everybody, Welcome to
conspiracy the show.
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I’m your host, Adam Todd Brown.
My guests.
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This week are already losing
their shit.
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I don’t know why.
I don’t know.
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It’s not like anything, dude.
It’s not like anything happened.
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The first time we tried to start
this podcast.
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Jessica didn’t almost start an
electrical fire with her.
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Top or anything.
It wasn’t even Another, hey, I
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don’t have a co-host this week,
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guests, my co-hosts, from the
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Hey, Jessica singer and Jen
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Scott.
Say hello everybody.
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Everybody love you.
Oh man, I think I think the
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adrenaline from me.
Spilling water, made my edible
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hip.
Oh, that’s very possible.
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Well, give him a subject matter
this week.
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It’s a good time for your edible
to hit.
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Oh yeah, story for sure because
we’re finally, we’re talking
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about a documentary, a very fun
documentary, sort of fun, it
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gets dark at times.
I would say a good documentary.
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I wouldn’t call it.
Parts of it are fun.
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Parts of it are fuss fucking
fun.
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Yeah I thought it was
aggressively fun, I think it’s
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fucking never had more fun cago,
maybe SAS go way back the
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Squatch.
Yeah so we’re talking about a
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documentary series On Hulu,
called Sasquatch.
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Three episodes around 45
minutes, each not too unwieldy.
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Can I just say?
I was so pleased when I?
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Okay.
So I thought it was gonna be a
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movie and then I saw docu-series
and I was like, God damn it and
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then I saw it was only three
episodes and I was like, hell
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yeah.
That is okay.
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Yeah, that’s a little something
that was layered enough, where
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it needed more than one episode.
I don’t know that it needed, all
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three.
I could have been killed.
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I think that’s to could have
been edited into what?
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Yeah.
And I think it may be Maybe even
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a could have been a to our
feature.
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Yeah easily.
But you got to expect that these
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days.
Everyone wants a series, it’s a
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duplass Brothers, documentary.
So that’s a positive sign.
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They always fight for them.
I also heard recently that
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they’re nice to work with, I
could see that and that makes me
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happy.
Yeah good if so yeah.
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So yeah when is that my was on
set with Mark duplass and he was
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reading a hardcover book the
entire time.
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That’s right.
Wow, I was like mad props Like
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he was so into just whatever he
was doing.
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It was fabulous.
So this documentary is about a,
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an investigative journalist
named David Holt house.
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What did everyone think of David
Holt house?
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I really liked him.
I also liked the reveal as to
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why he got into investigative
journalism.
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That was way later.
The thing that happened to when
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he was a kid, right?
It was a Twist.
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I was not expecting that made
everything.
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Make way more sense.
I really like David.
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I thought they did a really good
job of establishing.
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That we as the audience, believe
him to be a sane like variable.
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You know what I mean?
Like, you’re like okay this guy
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gets it and we think he’s a
little crazy, but it’s all to
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prove a point.
Well, he’s also a really good
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like investigator.
Like he always leaves when he
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asked people questions about
things.
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He always leaves holes in it, to
make sure that they’re both
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actually talking about the same
event.
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Yeah, I really like that where
he’s like I’ll never named the
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exact date of something when
asking about it.
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Yeah.
I I appreciate that.
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He’s very objective about it.
He’s not he’s not chasing one
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Theory and just hoping that that
theory is going to be true.
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Like he actually peels back the
layers of this because it’s,
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it’s a crazy story.
Yes.
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In attending that he experienced
in, did they ever go over?
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Because okay, so it starts can I
say?
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Yeah, it’s right fault.
Set the scene, it’s fall 1993,
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I’m innocent the matically
creation.
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I like the animation.
I did you.
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I thought they did a really good
job, style-wise.
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I like the disclaimer at the
beginning that some of the
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interactions were recreated.
It’s like you weren’t talking
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about the animation.
I hope because I picked up
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that’s enough.
This animation didn’t happen in
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real life, just seeing it it’s
like fall of 93 and he’s going
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up to Northern California to
Mendocino County, which is part
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of the Emerald.
Triangle that grows all the
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weed.
It’s right after.
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After the height of the war on
drugs and it’s like, we’re all
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the weed Farms are that I really
great and really terrible.
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See, I feel like you’re already
condensing this.
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In the way, the documentary
should have like zactly.
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All you need is after the height
of the war on drugs or on.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That was unnecessary.
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But gold rooms are know about
the War on Drugs.
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Yeah.
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We don’t maybe just NZ.
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Well, That they know more than
we do with some of that shit.
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Yeah.
Anyway go on but and there’s I I
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just don’t know if they ever
went over.
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If he was weed farming it must
have been for another article.
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He must have been investigating
something right?
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Yeah but he did say that he did
a little work on the farm like
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the day after he got there.
So he was, he was there to work
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but also clearly therefore
potential article.
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Yeah.
I go how farming Jobs go.
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It’s just kind of like I don’t
know.
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Round.
Well.
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Yeah.
And like you’re going to pick up
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some sketchy shit.
I’m sure he was like, I’ll see
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something and I’ll write about
it while I’m here to.
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Yeah.
And then a guy busted who’s all
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meth doubt and is like
Sasquatch, just pulled apart.
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Three men up at this other
fucking place.
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Yes, it’s like I’m at the
beginning, right?
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That sets the stage.
Yeah, that is, he’s basically
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everything.
You said he’s at this weed farm
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where he’s been either working
or doing journalists work in
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these dudes bust.
And, and go up to the boss of
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this place and they’re like
three dudes are dead.
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We saw the bodies Bigfoot.
Did it?
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Yeah, and they’re scared.
There’s, I felt like that was a
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really important part of it,
too.
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Like they seem terrified and
mapped out.
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And I also thought it was
interesting that he’s like, I do
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not tell this story because it’s
so serious.
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Like, I never wrote about this
because it like actually fucking
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scared me.
Yeah, yeah that, I mean, that’s
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going to unnerve, any person
just being in the room.
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Room when two other people come
in and go.
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Hey, I found three people
murdered nearby.
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Not only murdered ripped apart.
Yes, I thought also that this
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part was funny when they were
like establishing the woods and
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they were trying to make like
these beautiful gorgeous
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Northern California Woods that
are like, so Majestic look
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horrifying and I was loving it.
I was like, I was like, this is
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seriously one of the prettiest
places in the world and they’re
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like, show the no trespassing
sign it is, I’ve driven through
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humble and like that.
Yeah.
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We’d form Farms, of course, no
trespassing.
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Yeah.
But like the Redwood like they
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talk about how Giant and dense
the trees are and it’s like not
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an exaggeration, like NOAA Corps
Meyer, truly not know where you
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are.
If you go in there, spin around
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three times, you’re not going to
know where the fuck you came
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from.
Yeah, like, yeah.
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And it is, it’s a sketchier area
than people give it credit for.
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It’s very pretty, but sometimes
you can get murdered in pretty
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areas to it, always kind of
reminded me of Ohio, which was
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like, My little areas version of
that words like wow it’s so
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beautiful.
Wait there’s hippies and races
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here looks weird.
California.
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Just be like that sometimes so
strange like weird coughs but
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also I was like immediately.
When they said that Emerald
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Triangle, I was like oh I’ve
worked with people from up
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there.
People from up there.
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Well, like be the nicest people
in the world to you but also
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they will say crazy.
Shit like it is absolutely
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nothing.
Yeah like yeah.
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It’s just that’s just how
everyone is up there.
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So I was like, oh Allah.
Oh okay.
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This is where we are.
Got it?
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Well in, Jen, you were talking
to me about this too.
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Is like whenever they talk
whenever we’d people from up
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there talking about their we’d
land.
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They’re always like they talk
about the land forever and how
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they fought, how they got the
land and all the things they’ve
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had to do to keep the land and
that is usually what they’ll
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tell you in the first five
minutes of meeting them.
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Yep.
So So he’s at this farm.
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He this incident happens.
And now he starts hearing all
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these stories about Sasquatch
and Sasquatch and Bigfoot type
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creatures.
Just like harassing the shit out
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of farmers all around the area
and it turns out to be an
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important detail that he starts
hearing those stories after this
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killing happens.
But that’s that’s for much later
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in the documentary.
So this documentary is basically
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about him.
In this story.
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It’s a story that he’s been
sitting on for a couple of
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decades and like the first
episode is all Sasquatch based
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and it’s like fighting the
history of Sasquatch and people
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that have seen Sasquatch and
showing all the footage in the.
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Yeah I know it’s it does.
I think that episode does a the
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first episode does a good job of
kind of explaining why?
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It’s not that crazy that yeah
this was a Sasquatch that did
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it.
Why it’s reasonable that it
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would happen?
And where it did.
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Yeah, it reminded me.
It was more logical.
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But reminded me of watching this
flat earthers doc.
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I watched where they’re just
like I think we’ve talked about
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it actually, but they’re just
like, this is the way it is in.
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This is why it makes sense.
And yeah, you know, and I did
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text Jen.
When I was watching it, that I
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loved the life partners that
believed in Sasquatch, they were
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amazing.
I love the highlight of they
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were the highlight of the whole
dock for me.
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They were really cute.
He was like, you believe that
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Sasquatch like teleport.
No, I do.
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They’re just so cute.
Yeah, they were really fighting
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about whether Sasquatch is a
real thing or like an alien or a
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supernatural.
Yeah, like what type of sci-fi
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entity Sasquatch would fall
under like what powers they have
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and also I thought it was very
different that each dick like
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group of Sasquatch people talked
about Sasquatch differently.
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Yeah.
Like I was like wow what a
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creep.
Creative thing to believe it.
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My other favorite guy from the
first one is the guy that had
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the footage of Sasquatch from
1967.
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The cowboy guy?
Yeah.
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The Patterson-Gimlin tape.
Yeah.
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And he would, and he was like
someone was like, hey, have you
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ever heard of a Sasquatch doing
anything violent?
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And he was like, no they are the
nicest sweetest most blood.
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They’re so gentle and Majestic.
Yeah, he like talks about it.
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Like wasn’t that there that guy
that got eaten by bears Grizzly,
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Man?
Yes, yeah.
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He was like the Grizzly Man of
the SWAT, the Squatch people.
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He was like, they’re just so
nice.
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Yeah, he wasn’t it.
There’s a lot of what I’m
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guessing are really prominent
Bigfoot, and Sasquatch
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Personalities in here.
And I imagine he’s, well, he’s
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definitely one of them because
he’s one of the names attached
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to one of the most famous
Bigfoot videos, which is the
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Gilman Patterson video.
Yeah.
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Yeah, he’s Gilman.
Yeah, they don’t talk to
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Patterson, right?
He died, Dad.
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Yeah, yeah, Bigfoot.
It to happen that way.
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But yeah, weird.
So yeah, this there’s a lot of
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stuff about the history of
Mendocino County and the
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Emerald, Triangle huge
concentration.
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A weed farms in that area and
the Thing about it, it’s it’s
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all deep deep deep in the woods
and the thing about the woods is
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they are the ocean of the land
in that.
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We don’t really have a reason to
be in them.
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Yes.
Get out of there which makes
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makes it reasonable that, that’s
where Sasquatch would live.
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Because really all you got to do
to survive in that in those
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conditions.
And also stay low-key is develop
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a really Keen sense of Smell
because if you’re a place where
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humans never are and you can
just instantly smell that
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there’s a human nearby.
You just fucking hide.
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So, of course, Sasquatch lives
in the woods.
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I just figured it all out, but
there’s also we’d Farmers out
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there.
And this is this starts out
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loves weed.
Sasquatch, they do talk about
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Sasquatches eating buds off the
plants, actually adorable.
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Yeah, adorable, he’s getting mad
baby.
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I love the idea of that.
Just being like a cute snack and
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I Really fucking selling me on
Sasquatch.
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They really were, I was like,
all right, I guess.
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It reminded me of, like, when
people convince me that there’s
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ghosts, I’m like, okay, I guess
he saw it.
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I guess, it happened.
Yeah, yeah.
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And there’s such my but I got a
ghost has touched my shoulder
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before that is true.
And am, I know you’re a ghost
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Chaser to have you been touched
by Ghosts?
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No, I’ve never seen a u.s. bad.
I’ve never seen a UFO, despite
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spending a ton of time in New
Mexico.
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So So whatever.
Got it too bad.
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Yeah.
I had it to a certain point.
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There was like, two months where
I felt like ghost cat fucking
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with me and then it ended with
like I had fell on my shoulder
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realizing she smoked too much
weed on me.
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Yeah.
No.
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And then I turned around and it
was there outside and I just and
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then after like, three things
happened, I was like, I see you.
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I hear you, please leave me
alone and that it don’t bother
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me anymore.
It was freaking me out.
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That’s what I’ve always been
told to do.
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Yeah, I went to Zak Bagans
Haunted Mansion in Las Vegas and
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I I heard a long time ago that
if you’re in the room with a
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ghost just say goodbye when you
leave and yeah well problem you
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want to be want to be everywhere
saying goodbye by myself now.
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Yeah, bye.
Sebastian basically every room
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you exit from now on say goodbye
to the ghosts that are there
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unless it was like built, you
know, just a year or two ago or
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something like him.
I did have the most ghosts
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problems when I was just not
sit.
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Like, just leaving places like
that, saying goodbye to anybody.
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Just be like the trip.
We nailed it.
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That’s how you get haunted.
You don’t say goodbye to the
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ghost.
So I did, I did appreciate that.
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There was a bunch of history
about the California, Gold Rush
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in this, because it does tie
into the how that area turned
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out to be.
But more importantly, we really
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romanticize the California Gold
Rush as if it was not a
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straight-up genocide.
Yeah, yeah, I had never learned.
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I learned about, you know, I’m
from here.
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I learned about the Gold Rush my
whole life.
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They smell like a month on it,
and I genuinely had never put
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two and two, Together.
That like, of course they killed
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a bunch of indigenous people
during the Gold Rush that story
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has never been told to me that
way, and I was like, it felt
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like, such a dumb moment, guess
what?
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If you went to public school and
you learn something more than
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once in history?
It was a lie.
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That’s usually thing, true.
They really tried to hammer in
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the same ideas every year for
certain thing.
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Yeah, Gold Rush Thanksgiving
bullshit.
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And like, Everything else?
I I helped write Civil War.
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Yeah, I helped write and edit,
two different books that are all
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about that.
When I was at cracked we put out
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two different books that are
just about all the things you
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learned in correctly in school.
I think I might have shared this
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on here before, but I had a
government teacher.
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That was like, let’s look at how
the Constitutions written in our
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textbooks and let’s compare it
to an actual copy of the
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Constitution and he pointed out
like, what parts Weren’t
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finished.
What parts were like it enlarged
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that like we’re misleading.
Yeah, that we are research that
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they were all made in Texas,
like all that.
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It was like a lot of that.
Yeah, it’s all very shady.
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So the Gold Rush was a genocide.
Yeah, the Gold Rush was a
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genocide, they touch on that in
this documentary and I
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appreciate that.
But let’s get back to Sasquatch.
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So watching whole house starts
talking and asking people if
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anyone has Sasquatch stories.
And at first it seems like no
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one does and then he puts a
private investigator on the case
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I was like fuck yes he hiring a
private investigator to look for
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Sasquatch stories like from
these parts to write and he does
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you know, finally put him in
touch with a few different
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people.
This is the point where they
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start talking to the Bigfoot.
Video guy, the Patterson-Gimlin
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film guy?
I think I said his name
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incorrectly earlier.
What do they think of that
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video?
I mean, why was I sold on this
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video?
No, I immediately was like he
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seems small.
It’s kind of the end of the
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first episode in the beginning
of the next episode.
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Yes.
Is them talking about this
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video, which when they present
it in the first episode, it’s
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with nothing.
But people who are like, I was
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there standing across the water
and it looked at me and it’s
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like, he didn’t have a British
accent but and then they I was
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standing there across the water
and it turned at me.
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And it’s that classic arm back
and turn and I was like, yeah,
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classic and that’s just like it.
Also in 90s 1967 is the video.
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Yeah, I think it’s.
Yeah, yeah.
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And I’m like, yeah, video
quality was terrible in 67.
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Like, right blurry was like,
wow.
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You did it, which would make it
easier to face.
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Yeah, yeah.
Yeah and then they open the
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second episode with an interview
with a guy who was like I was in
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a suit in that.
Yeah and we got got honey and
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he’s nice so tricked.
He’s like look at my right hip,
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I’m wearing my jeans.
You can see my wallet and I
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actually could not have the
bottom of the seat on.
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You can see as well, it I
couldn’t see his wallet.
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It got, oh me, either around his
ass.
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Your brain just wants to fill in
the blanks because it’s Clear
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enough?
Yes, that is also very true.
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But I also love any port form of
media in which I feel like a
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magic trick was done and I was
tricked and that’s definitely
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how I felt beginning of episode
2 ahead texted me, I feel like
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I’ve believed in Sasquatch the
same way I believe in ghosts,
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and I would, like, just didn’t
respond, because I was, like,
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wait till the next episode.
But that was just, I was also
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obviously smoking during this
whole thing and I thought about
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that and I was like, Yeah.
Like, I believe that people
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believe they’ve seen it and then
I was like, wait, no, I’ve had
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experiences with ghosts.
It’s not this, a never had an
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experience with the Squatch.
I have stopped it before.
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That first episode ends, he gets
in touch with a guy who is just
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awesomely named razor?
Yes.
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Do you think it’s?
Cause he’s so good at trimming?
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Oh maybe because he cut you.
Yeah, I wonder if it was if it
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was like a fake nickname and
Israel nicknames Need, and he’s
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like, what you changed it to
razor?
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That’s not odor.
That’s not enough Razor scooter.
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You need after the Razor
scooter.
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So he does say he remembers
hearing this story, and he adds
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a couple details that there were
three Mexican Nationals.
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Those were the victims and that
they were killed in the area of
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Spy Rock Road, which is, is, as
cool of an area.
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As the name implies, if you like
danger.
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And Initially being murdered.
It’s that but it sounds, it
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sounds really great.
His story seems very believable
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and then whole house gets this
text from the detective and he’s
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like I can’t do this anymore.
We’re getting into dangerous
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territory and it’s which holy
shit did that private
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investigator talk to a Bigfoot?
Who threatened him ha ha.
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Ha Bigfoot Mafia Bigfoot Mafia?
Yeah, at that point, when his
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life gets threatened, if you
feel as if you still think it’s
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Squatch, what are you doing?
Yeah, it would have been funny
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though.
It’s like a Bigfoot lawyer
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showed up wearing a suit and
shit.
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We will scare you.
I don’t make sure the whole
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suit.
It’s just a collar and tie and
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then hits a little pocket
protector in the fur.
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Like Chewbacca.
Yeah.
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I like like like how Chewbacca
would dress for the job class
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for the Chewbacca you want.
I can you act?
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So this private investigator
gives up he’s like I’m not I’m
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not doing this anymore.
You’re going to get us both
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killed by a Sasquatch and they
start getting into Spy Rock Road
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Lot in this place.
Sounds fascinating, it is
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apparently controlled by the
Hells Angels, very hard to get
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to and now there’s lots of
historic.
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This is they talk about like,
some strange murders that have
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happened there in.
This is why I hate that they
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spend so much time on the war on
drugs, because it’s getting
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really interesting and then they
talk about the war on drugs for
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like 20 minutes and it’s very
good.
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Attracting.
I had a hard time getting
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through that part.
I was like yep I did you know I
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did think about it do they talk
about immigrants working on weed
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Farms before or after the war on
drugs after huh?
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After yeah and also I don’t feel
like they felt like we’ll get to
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it.
I feel like that part was very
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glow like glossed over.
But me, too.
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I wish they’d spent the time
they did on the War on Drugs on
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immigrants like trying to find
jobs and work and then maybe
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later they did and it was Really
sad, so, I just don’t remember.
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Yeah, I remember not.
That was a big chunk, but not
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long after Trump got elected.
I remember reading a story about
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all these Northern California
Farmers, who were upset that
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their Farm Workers were getting
deported, but also, they all
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voted for Trump.
It’s like, so, you thought he
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wasn’t going to deport your
workers?
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Just the bad people.
It’s like you fucking idiot.
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Yeah.
Wow, boiler.
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There’s like, no bad ones.
It’s all of them that they’re
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trying to get rid of, exactly.
I mean, there’s this, many bad
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people.
Our of any group we we
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understand.
I’d assume I’m painting with my
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Edibles are colliding.
Sorry.
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Edible Collision.
Just what Sasquatch would want
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really.
So he calls a confidential
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informant and says hello.
Can I speak to and then they
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bleep it out.
So at this point I decided This
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Confidential informant is named
fuck because it’s like just
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short enough and it sounds so So
hopefully not Chuck.
434
00:23:51,200 –> 00:23:52,500
No, it’s fuck.
Fuck.
435
00:23:52,600 –> 00:23:55,100
Yeah he talks to an informant
named fuck.
436
00:23:55,200 –> 00:23:58,600
Did anyone catch his motel room?
There’s just a really brief shot
437
00:23:58,600 –> 00:24:00,700
where he’s making phone calls in
his motel room.
438
00:24:00,700 –> 00:24:02,700
Yeah.
And it’s got like an actual
439
00:24:02,700 –> 00:24:05,600
glass front door on it.
I don’t like that.
440
00:24:05,600 –> 00:24:07,700
Oh no.
It was a very weird vibe of the
441
00:24:07,700 –> 00:24:09,400
hook.
The motel room that makes me
442
00:24:09,400 –> 00:24:13,200
uncomfortable.
It was a super strange anyway.
443
00:24:13,300 –> 00:24:18,500
So this is where they talk a lot
about David whole house himself
444
00:24:18,500 –> 00:24:23,600
and about how A lot of his work
has been him chasing his own
445
00:24:23,600 –> 00:24:29,100
demons in some respect.
Yeah, I was like, when I first
446
00:24:29,100 –> 00:24:31,600
met David not met but like, in
the beginning, I’m like that
447
00:24:31,600 –> 00:24:34,800
Hair Choice and then they say
that he went undercover with
448
00:24:34,800 –> 00:24:37,200
skinheads and I’m like, oh yeah,
I would also wear my hair as
449
00:24:37,200 –> 00:24:42,400
long as possible post skin that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
450
00:24:42,400 –> 00:24:45,400
That’s that’s a metaphor right
on his fucking head, right?
451
00:24:45,400 –> 00:24:48,500
Yeah, exactly.
I liked how well they, portrayed
452
00:24:48,500 –> 00:24:52,000
the depth of him in Yeah, and
also I thought that it was
453
00:24:52,000 –> 00:24:55,900
really good that they got us to
trust him before he even
454
00:24:55,900 –> 00:24:57,800
revealed any trauma to us
because that would have been the
455
00:24:57,800 –> 00:25:00,400
easy thing to do, was to just
tell us what happened out the
456
00:25:00,408 –> 00:25:02,500
gates also, it doesn’t, it makes
it.
457
00:25:02,500 –> 00:25:04,200
So his trauma doesn’t Define
him.
458
00:25:04,200 –> 00:25:06,600
I feel exciting times when we
learn characters wheel and their
459
00:25:06,600 –> 00:25:09,600
trauma first, and then that’s
like who they are right?
460
00:25:09,700 –> 00:25:13,000
And I thought that they did just
like a really good job of
461
00:25:13,100 –> 00:25:17,600
showing us that he had
perspective so that we were
462
00:25:17,600 –> 00:25:20,800
never like I don’t know if I
trust This main character.
463
00:25:20,800 –> 00:25:23,300
We were always with him on the
story.
464
00:25:23,500 –> 00:25:29,000
Yeah, he’s immediately very
likeable and trustworthy like
465
00:25:29,000 –> 00:25:30,500
y’all.
So I think part of what makes
466
00:25:30,500 –> 00:25:31,500
them.
So, trustworthy is in the
467
00:25:31,500 –> 00:25:33,100
beginning.
He’s like, here’s what I do now.
468
00:25:33,100 –> 00:25:35,400
I don’t know.
Well, you know that he’s not
469
00:25:35,400 –> 00:25:37,300
like this is what I’m sorting
out to find.
470
00:25:37,300 –> 00:25:40,200
He’s like, let’s figure this out
because the shit’s weird.
471
00:25:40,500 –> 00:25:42,300
Yeah, he’s like this is It’s a
story.
472
00:25:42,300 –> 00:25:43,600
I heard.
What do you want me to do?
473
00:25:43,800 –> 00:25:47,400
Yeah, it’s the story.
I heard ya where he shares all
474
00:25:47,400 –> 00:25:50,000
that about himself like he
didn’t have to do that.
475
00:25:50,000 –> 00:25:53,100
That like documentary would have
worked without it.
476
00:25:53,300 –> 00:25:57,300
So that’s that’s an example of
them adding stuff that
477
00:25:57,300 –> 00:26:00,200
necessarily didn’t need to be
there but I’m fine with it.
478
00:26:00,200 –> 00:26:03,300
Just like the California Gold
Rush stuff, hell yeah, include
479
00:26:03,300 –> 00:26:05,000
all that.
So maybe this episode is better
480
00:26:05,000 –> 00:26:08,300
than we said it was when we
first started talking.
481
00:26:08,300 –> 00:26:10,200
We were just like we’re sad
down.
482
00:26:10,200 –> 00:26:13,500
We hate it back to Sasquatch.
Please just could have been a
483
00:26:13,500 –> 00:26:16,200
tweet.
Yeah I think it was so like
484
00:26:16,200 –> 00:26:18,600
emotionally draining.
I mean I it’s because I also
485
00:26:18,600 –> 00:26:21,200
needed to get stuff done but I
think Took a break like mid
486
00:26:21,200 –> 00:26:25,000
episode 2 for a while, like not
in between episodes, but just
487
00:26:25,000 –> 00:26:27,500
made up mid episode 2.
I was like, let me get away from
488
00:26:27,500 –> 00:26:30,400
this fry.
Watched it all the way through.
489
00:26:31,300 –> 00:26:33,800
Did not stop.
I here’s the thing.
490
00:26:33,800 –> 00:26:37,100
I also thought it was a movie at
first, so I didn’t start
491
00:26:37,100 –> 00:26:39,600
watching it until around 9:00
a.m. this morning.
492
00:26:39,700 –> 00:26:41,900
And then, once I saw it was
three episodes, I was like,
493
00:26:41,900 –> 00:26:44,400
shit, am I going to make it
before I have to record?
494
00:26:44,400 –> 00:26:46,400
How you watched it today?
I did.
495
00:26:46,400 –> 00:26:49,900
Yeah, oh funny.
Yeah, it’s fresh in my mind.
496
00:26:50,000 –> 00:26:53,900
Yeah, I watched it Saturday.
Yeah I watched it whatever day
497
00:26:53,900 –> 00:26:59,000
you texted me about Saturday so
I’ve had a lot to think about.
498
00:26:59,200 –> 00:27:03,800
We get a little bit of
foreshadowing into a subject
499
00:27:03,800 –> 00:27:06,900
that’s going to come up a lot
later in this documentary which
500
00:27:06,900 –> 00:27:09,900
is people are super duper racist
in this.
501
00:27:09,900 –> 00:27:14,100
Oh, yeah of California.
He talks to fuck, who tells him
502
00:27:14,100 –> 00:27:18,200
a story about two guys from l.a.
who were murdered and buried in
503
00:27:18,200 –> 00:27:20,700
the area.
And he tells that Story,
504
00:27:20,700 –> 00:27:24,000
incredibly racist lie, which
here’s the thing.
505
00:27:24,100 –> 00:27:27,400
Most spellcheck did not correct.
The word, racist lie.
506
00:27:27,400 –> 00:27:30,400
So, apparently that’s, that’s a
word systole.
507
00:27:30,500 –> 00:27:35,500
Yeah, that’s, that’s apparently
a real did that very racist ways
508
00:27:35,500 –> 00:27:37,500
that, that word.
Yeah.
509
00:27:37,600 –> 00:27:40,000
And yeah, he drops the n-word a
couple times.
510
00:27:40,000 –> 00:27:46,100
It’s very bad and it does a good
job of demonstrating something
511
00:27:46,100 –> 00:27:49,200
that they talk about later,
which is how horribly racist
512
00:27:49,200 –> 00:27:52,000
that part.
Of the country is, which I think
513
00:27:52,000 –> 00:27:54,600
people underestimate a lot of
people want to think that would
514
00:27:54,600 –> 00:28:00,400
think that California is like
some utopian non-racist land.
515
00:28:00,400 –> 00:28:04,600
And really it is so racist here,
if you get out of La at all,
516
00:28:04,600 –> 00:28:06,300
that it’s just Trump signs
everywhere.
517
00:28:06,300 –> 00:28:09,400
Still even in.
L.a., I’ve never lived somewhere
518
00:28:09,400 –> 00:28:13,400
else segregated as Ela like
that.
519
00:28:13,400 –> 00:28:18,900
But I mean, I’ve lived in places
that didn’t have a ton of people
520
00:28:18,900 –> 00:28:24,200
of color like, South Dakota but
even then it’s not like everyone
521
00:28:24,200 –> 00:28:27,700
was in one neighborhood which is
what they still really try to do
522
00:28:27,700 –> 00:28:31,400
in l.a. like it’s fucked up,
super segregated here,
523
00:28:32,600 –> 00:28:36,600
definitely romanticized the
liberal nests of the Bay Area
524
00:28:36,600 –> 00:28:38,900
before I moved there and like
went there for college.
525
00:28:39,300 –> 00:28:41,500
Oh my God.
Yes I did.
526
00:28:41,500 –> 00:28:44,600
I got a head like even your
first year they’re in like if
527
00:28:44,600 –> 00:28:47,500
you’re in your little College
bubble, you do think it’s like
528
00:28:47,500 –> 00:28:50,400
that.
Yeah, you know and then I like
529
00:28:50,400 –> 00:28:53,300
visited friends and Humboldt and
I was like, yeah, this is going
530
00:28:53,300 –> 00:28:59,200
to be the really hit be.
Oh yeah, New York is like that.
531
00:28:59,400 –> 00:29:03,400
Also because like New York is
always blue and the elections
532
00:29:03,400 –> 00:29:06,800
and people throw Hillary Clinton
fucking super liberal na
533
00:29:06,800 –> 00:29:10,900
Manhattan is liberal like New
York City is liberal.
534
00:29:10,900 –> 00:29:15,500
If you go 45 minutes north you
get to Upstate New York and that
535
00:29:15,500 –> 00:29:18,200
is all racist, retired cops
eyes.
536
00:29:18,400 –> 00:29:21,200
I lived in New York for six.
It’s a nice split my time
537
00:29:21,200 –> 00:29:24,500
between Manhattan and Upstate
New York and where I lived in.
538
00:29:24,500 –> 00:29:29,800
Upstate New York was fucking Cop
Land and it was the most openly
539
00:29:29,800 –> 00:29:33,800
racist place I’ve ever lived.
It fucking sucked.
540
00:29:33,900 –> 00:29:38,400
Oh anyway, in California, has a
similar energy when I went there
541
00:29:38,400 –> 00:29:45,200
for like a weed convention.
It is so like they just it,
542
00:29:45,200 –> 00:29:47,500
seriously, fucked up, the things
they’ll just say to you.
543
00:29:47,500 –> 00:29:50,800
Like it’s nothing too, and it’s
like, they I just think that
544
00:29:50,800 –> 00:29:53,800
because you’re in the same
industry is them maybe like that
545
00:29:53,800 –> 00:29:57,000
you understand where they’re
coming from on stuff and people
546
00:29:57,000 –> 00:30:00,100
will just say really fucked up
racist or just like horrible
547
00:30:00,100 –> 00:30:03,400
things to you.
Yeah yeah the weed Industries
548
00:30:03,400 –> 00:30:07,500
not great at all.
No we didn’t see is pretty
549
00:30:07,500 –> 00:30:08,800
fucked up and racist.
Yeah.
550
00:30:08,800 –> 00:30:12,600
Is that is that when it starts
in the documentary around where
551
00:30:12,600 –> 00:30:14,900
we’re talking about is that
where it starts to show like
552
00:30:15,000 –> 00:30:17,800
because I know it starts to show
the migration of people going up
553
00:30:17,800 –> 00:30:19,800
north to want to live a free
life.
554
00:30:20,200 –> 00:30:23,800
And like not have running water
and be away from things and then
555
00:30:23,800 –> 00:30:25,900
it shows how that a lot of those
people.
556
00:30:25,900 –> 00:30:28,800
Also were wielding guns and
black.
557
00:30:29,300 –> 00:30:31,600
Yeah.
And they get into how living in
558
00:30:31,600 –> 00:30:34,500
that situation can make you a
little crazy.
559
00:30:34,500 –> 00:30:38,000
Like it’s a very isolated thing.
Yeah.
560
00:30:38,000 –> 00:30:41,500
Even if you go out with those
righteous intentions, yeah.
561
00:30:41,500 –> 00:30:44,300
Like you start forgetting
everything.
562
00:30:44,300 –> 00:30:46,700
When you’re super isolated.
It, you know, we still got to
563
00:30:46,708 –> 00:30:49,500
protect your crop baby.
Yeah.
564
00:30:49,500 –> 00:30:51,700
Raise Zur talks, a lot about
that.
565
00:30:51,700 –> 00:30:53,600
I like to raise her a lot.
He was a through.
566
00:30:53,600 –> 00:30:56,300
Yeah, yeah.
He made a lot of, really great
567
00:30:56,300 –> 00:30:59,600
points in this documentary,
whenever he talked.
568
00:30:59,600 –> 00:31:02,400
And one of the things he brought
up about that thing, where
569
00:31:02,400 –> 00:31:06,500
people would go up initially
with, like you said, these Noble
570
00:31:06,500 –> 00:31:09,800
intentions to just grow weed and
be a hippie, and then they’d
571
00:31:09,800 –> 00:31:13,200
spend one season up there and
come back a completely different
572
00:31:13,200 –> 00:31:15,500
person.
Like be it because they had
573
00:31:15,500 –> 00:31:19,300
money now or they had a drug
problem now or something would
574
00:31:19,300 –> 00:31:20,300
change.
Them.
575
00:31:20,300 –> 00:31:22,300
And then they’d go back the next
season.
576
00:31:22,300 –> 00:31:23,800
Yeah.
And then they talked about like
577
00:31:23,800 –> 00:31:28,800
needing to do uppers to trim all
night long and write that to
578
00:31:29,100 –> 00:31:32,500
which is like, I don’t know.
I definitely saw that happen to
579
00:31:32,500 –> 00:31:35,000
some people.
Like I personally have seen that
580
00:31:35,000 –> 00:31:38,900
happen and it’s gnarly in it
even with no trauma.
581
00:31:38,900 –> 00:31:43,400
Trimming is the most
mind-numbing gig that like like
582
00:31:43,400 –> 00:31:49,400
even if your job goes perfectly
trimming is so monotonous that
583
00:31:49,400 –> 00:31:51,400
you will.
We’ll lose it a little bit.
584
00:31:51,400 –> 00:31:53,500
Yeah.
If you’re not listening to books
585
00:31:53,500 –> 00:31:59,000
the whole time in it, I felt
like that was a really important
586
00:31:59,100 –> 00:32:03,800
detail because math, that is a
whole like if you get really
587
00:32:03,800 –> 00:32:07,200
strung out on meth, the
hallucinations that can happen
588
00:32:07,200 –> 00:32:10,600
are really insane.
There’s a link to it in the
589
00:32:10,600 –> 00:32:13,600
notes, I should have sent it to
you both so he could watch it.
590
00:32:13,700 –> 00:32:17,300
It’s this news report, this
happened in Omaha.
591
00:32:17,800 –> 00:32:19,800
This couple I think they were
just boys.
592
00:32:20,000 –> 00:32:21,500
A girlfriend.
I don’t think they were married.
593
00:32:21,500 –> 00:32:24,800
They were really young and they
had been smoking meth all day.
594
00:32:24,900 –> 00:32:27,600
And they, at one point called
911.
595
00:32:27,900 –> 00:32:30,400
And they’re like, we’re in our
apartment in Downtown.
596
00:32:30,400 –> 00:32:34,800
Omaha, it’s surrounded by
Africans and they will not let
597
00:32:34,800 –> 00:32:39,300
us leave and they end up on the
phone with the police for four
598
00:32:39,300 –> 00:32:42,000
hours while the police are
trying to figure out where they
599
00:32:42,000 –> 00:32:45,700
actually are and they were in
the middle of a field like three
600
00:32:45,700 –> 00:32:48,900
hours away freezing to death in
the whole time.
601
00:32:48,900 –> 00:32:51,600
They’re like we’re in our
Apartment, it’s surrounded.
602
00:32:51,600 –> 00:32:55,100
So, once I heard that people
like smoking a ton of meth, I
603
00:32:55,100 –> 00:32:57,700
was like, oh, that might explain
the Bigfoot thing to.
604
00:32:58,200 –> 00:33:00,800
Yeah.
And like just some of the
605
00:33:00,800 –> 00:33:03,600
descriptions of Bigfoot being
like, someone’s watching you in
606
00:33:03,600 –> 00:33:07,300
the forest like I’ve I’ve
hallucinated in the forest.
607
00:33:08,700 –> 00:33:11,300
You know, who I just remembered
that we haven’t talked about?
608
00:33:11,300 –> 00:33:14,400
Is that former cop who was
crying in his pants?
609
00:33:14,600 –> 00:33:19,900
Yeah, dude was lying, that
motherfucker, something else
610
00:33:19,900 –> 00:33:23,700
happened and he replaced that
memory with a Sasquatch memory.
611
00:33:23,700 –> 00:33:26,800
I was like this dude is fucking
lying.
612
00:33:27,000 –> 00:33:30,700
Hey so what was his story again
that he just saw just all one
613
00:33:30,700 –> 00:33:34,400
and he said are like someone in
the forest that’s what happened
614
00:33:34,400 –> 00:33:36,700
and they screamed and that’s
what happened because it was the
615
00:33:36,700 –> 00:33:39,400
scream that I mean I’m start
reading out.
616
00:33:39,400 –> 00:33:41,500
Yeah, totally killed.
Someone in the forest.
617
00:33:41,500 –> 00:33:45,800
That was so strange.
That was so weird.
618
00:33:45,800 –> 00:33:49,900
I’ve never seen someone talk
about being scared the way he
619
00:33:49,900 –> 00:33:53,600
talked about being scared, that
motherfucker’s, not scared of
620
00:33:53,600 –> 00:33:57,300
his own mind.
Yeah, that was really weird.
621
00:33:57,500 –> 00:34:00,700
I was glad they didn’t find too
much time with that fucking
622
00:34:00,700 –> 00:34:02,600
weirdo.
I almost want to watch that
623
00:34:02,600 –> 00:34:06,100
again with the, with the knowing
that I think he’s lying to see
624
00:34:06,100 –> 00:34:08,900
if he does the things that
There’s do which I’m sure he did
625
00:34:08,900 –> 00:34:10,400
and that’s why I’m eating the
recognize it.
626
00:34:10,400 –> 00:34:12,800
But the whole like, I bet he was
like, looking up and trying to
627
00:34:12,800 –> 00:34:16,000
disguise it as crying, which is
why it was so dramatic.
628
00:34:16,100 –> 00:34:17,500
Yeah.
He kept looking straight ahead
629
00:34:17,500 –> 00:34:21,300
like at the road, not at the
camera like trying to find his
630
00:34:21,300 –> 00:34:23,600
Liz lies.
Yeah.
631
00:34:23,600 –> 00:34:26,500
That I had it in the notes
somewhere but who knows?
632
00:34:26,600 –> 00:34:27,600
I’ve, who knows?
We did.
633
00:34:27,600 –> 00:34:30,199
I think we skipped over.
Yeah, that guy.
634
00:34:30,300 –> 00:34:33,199
Oh, so I’m glad you remembered
that Jen though, because I
635
00:34:33,207 –> 00:34:34,900
blocked that out.
Oh my God.
636
00:34:34,900 –> 00:34:37,400
It was so weird.
I was like, why would you even
637
00:34:37,500 –> 00:34:40,300
Even agree to go on camera.
If you were just gonna lie and
638
00:34:40,300 –> 00:34:42,400
cry like that.
He’s been waiting for that
639
00:34:42,400 –> 00:34:44,199
opportunity to cover for
himself.
640
00:34:44,400 –> 00:34:46,199
Yeah.
They’re going to find a body out
641
00:34:46,199 –> 00:34:47,199
there.
Yeah.
642
00:34:47,300 –> 00:34:49,500
Hey, Walt.
There’s so many bodies.
643
00:34:49,500 –> 00:34:54,900
Yeah, that’s true that body.
Because again, it’s the ocean of
644
00:34:54,900 –> 00:34:57,200
the land.
Yeah, that’s what the woods are.
645
00:34:57,300 –> 00:35:01,500
So he has another meeting with
confidential informant.
646
00:35:01,600 –> 00:35:04,800
Who says, you’re looking for
those three Mexican guys that
647
00:35:05,100 –> 00:35:09,800
beep killed back in 1990. 30,
right?
648
00:35:09,800 –> 00:35:14,100
And we I don’t think we ever
learned this guy’s name, but he
649
00:35:14,100 –> 00:35:17,900
is, he is a very prominent
figure in this documentary.
650
00:35:18,600 –> 00:35:22,600
He’s once again reminded his
life might be in danger and no
651
00:35:22,600 –> 00:35:26,300
one wants to talk about this guy
except one dude, who is again,
652
00:35:26,300 –> 00:35:29,600
awesomely named Ghost Dance.
That’s his name.
653
00:35:29,800 –> 00:35:31,600
His name was Ghost Dance.
Yeah.
654
00:35:31,600 –> 00:35:34,300
My favorite Talking Heads and
the whole thing because he
655
00:35:34,300 –> 00:35:37,000
doesn’t give a shit.
He says he’s never seen a sky
656
00:35:37,000 –> 00:35:37,900
SAS.
Squatch.
657
00:35:37,900 –> 00:35:40,900
So he doesn’t believe in it,
he’s like he’s like, well I’ve
658
00:35:40,900 –> 00:35:47,300
never seen with my two eyes so
know which is kind of a sketchy
659
00:35:47,300 –> 00:35:49,300
way to approach it.
Like I’ve never seen a
660
00:35:49,300 –> 00:35:51,900
California condor but they
exist.
661
00:35:52,000 –> 00:35:54,500
Yeah he’s been up there for a
long time.
662
00:35:54,500 –> 00:36:00,500
That’s true ones never come into
my store so he brings up another
663
00:36:00,500 –> 00:36:05,400
murder that happened in 2013
which spins off into a whole
664
00:36:05,400 –> 00:36:09,100
other plot line.
If Documentary.
665
00:36:09,200 –> 00:36:11,500
It like we’re getting we’re
getting to the point where I
666
00:36:11,500 –> 00:36:15,800
don’t want to give too much more
away, but but that part was just
667
00:36:15,800 –> 00:36:18,100
goes to show you.
People get fucking murdered up
668
00:36:18,100 –> 00:36:19,600
here.
Like it’s nothing.
669
00:36:19,700 –> 00:36:22,900
Yeah, it was a guy named Hugo.
He was sleeping in his tent
670
00:36:22,900 –> 00:36:26,100
guarding a weed.
Growing spot and someone just
671
00:36:26,100 –> 00:36:29,000
shot through the tent.
That was the really sad part.
672
00:36:29,000 –> 00:36:30,500
Yeah.
Yeah.
673
00:36:30,500 –> 00:36:34,600
Interview his niece and she’s
still super distraught over.
674
00:36:34,600 –> 00:36:37,800
It, it’s so sad.
Yeah.
675
00:36:37,900 –> 00:36:40,900
So fucked up.
He was the best uncle.
676
00:36:42,200 –> 00:36:45,100
It’s what she says.
It’s like so sad.
677
00:36:45,200 –> 00:36:49,600
Yeah.
So yeah, there’s also that meth
678
00:36:49,600 –> 00:36:52,800
lady in the car.
Oh yeah.
679
00:36:52,800 –> 00:36:56,900
Yeah he meets this lady in a
parking lot to talk about the
680
00:36:56,900 –> 00:37:01,800
murder and she talks about a
completely different murder.
681
00:37:01,900 –> 00:37:04,100
Okay.
One that hurt one that her
682
00:37:04,100 –> 00:37:06,900
five-year-old son witnessed.
Yeah.
683
00:37:07,000 –> 00:37:08,800
Yeah.
She’s As that I was.
684
00:37:08,800 –> 00:37:13,900
So two men were shot in that her
son was close enough to it, that
685
00:37:14,000 –> 00:37:16,400
he got blood spatter on his
face.
686
00:37:16,400 –> 00:37:20,100
And yes, tasted it a little God.
I hope he was young enough where
687
00:37:20,100 –> 00:37:22,800
he just doesn’t remember it
sounds like she remembers it
688
00:37:22,800 –> 00:37:25,500
enough that he remembers it, he
was five.
689
00:37:25,500 –> 00:37:29,900
So I think he’s pretty old.
Yeah, he remembers because I was
690
00:37:29,900 –> 00:37:32,900
if you’re like under six, your
brain can be like let’s get rid
691
00:37:32,900 –> 00:37:36,200
of that.
My grandmother on my mom’s side
692
00:37:36,200 –> 00:37:40,500
died when I was In kindergarten
or about to go to kindergarten.
693
00:37:40,500 –> 00:37:44,600
So I would have been like five
and I vividly remember walking
694
00:37:44,600 –> 00:37:49,400
in the living room and seeing my
sister just sobbing and like I
695
00:37:49,400 –> 00:37:52,600
don’t remember much else but it
like that part I think.
696
00:37:53,600 –> 00:37:56,500
Yeah.
So man if you’re 5 and you see
697
00:37:56,500 –> 00:38:00,200
two people get shotgun to death
in the blood splatters on your
698
00:38:00,200 –> 00:38:02,700
face and I feel like you’re
going to remember it all.
699
00:38:02,700 –> 00:38:06,800
So that lady, she got in the car
with him for the interview and
700
00:38:06,800 –> 00:38:08,200
offered him.
Hit of meth.
701
00:38:08,200 –> 00:38:12,800
So just to let you know how like
openly people use meth and talk
702
00:38:12,800 –> 00:38:15,300
about murder.
Oh what a scent and he offered
703
00:38:15,300 –> 00:38:18,600
to buy her a drink and she said
no and let her meth pipe in the
704
00:38:18,600 –> 00:38:20,100
bar.
I’m pretty sure.
705
00:38:20,100 –> 00:38:22,900
Yep.
Yeah I I like that.
706
00:38:23,000 –> 00:38:26,100
I mean I don’t like but it’s
interesting that this place is
707
00:38:26,100 –> 00:38:31,200
so violent and just known like
so scary to people that he even
708
00:38:31,200 –> 00:38:34,200
interviews a cop who’s like, I’m
not going to appear on camera.
709
00:38:34,500 –> 00:38:37,300
I fucking killed a cartel guy in
a shoot out a few years ago.
710
00:38:37,400 –> 00:38:40,000
Yeah, he’ll know.
Like you forgot about that.
711
00:38:40,000 –> 00:38:43,600
No one wants to appear on
camera, except not a lot of
712
00:38:43,600 –> 00:38:46,800
nice.
Yeah, except except Ghost Dance.
713
00:38:46,800 –> 00:38:50,300
Yes, I didn’t do anything.
I love Ghost Dance.
714
00:38:50,400 –> 00:38:53,700
And so he goes poking around on
Sky Rock Road.
715
00:38:53,700 –> 00:38:56,300
Where Spy Rock Road where they
immediately say.
716
00:38:56,300 –> 00:38:58,200
Don’t go there.
Yes, please.
717
00:38:58,200 –> 00:39:00,500
Please do not go back.
Yeah.
718
00:39:00,500 –> 00:39:03,900
Then he’s there.
I feel like that’s starting to
719
00:39:03,900 –> 00:39:07,300
become like a Trope in
documentaries.
720
00:39:07,500 –> 00:39:12,700
Yeah don’t do it or they’ll be
interviewing someone who’s like.
721
00:39:12,800 –> 00:39:14,100
Oh yeah.
That person’s never going to
722
00:39:14,107 –> 00:39:17,600
talk to you next scene that
person sitting down for you.
723
00:39:18,500 –> 00:39:20,000
It’s like oh I didn’t see that
coming.
724
00:39:20,300 –> 00:39:24,200
It’s funny though.
Yeah so sure enough he goes up
725
00:39:24,200 –> 00:39:29,400
there and starts asking
questions and he’s told by a few
726
00:39:29,400 –> 00:39:32,800
different sources that the
murder was ordered by a
727
00:39:32,800 –> 00:39:36,000
high-level grower possibly in
retaliation for getting the
728
00:39:36,008 –> 00:39:39,600
Growers daughter.
Strung out on heroin and one of
729
00:39:39,600 –> 00:39:43,800
about 50 compelling theories
that come after this.
730
00:39:44,500 –> 00:39:49,300
Yes, one thing we do find out
though is that the legendary
731
00:39:49,300 –> 00:39:53,000
Bigfoot, actually the name of a
well-known weed grower in the
732
00:39:53,000 –> 00:39:56,100
area, at the time bigfoot.
Gary?
733
00:39:56,100 –> 00:39:58,500
What?
Yes, what a great fucking name.
734
00:39:58,600 –> 00:40:01,100
Can you imagine?
I want to be called Bigfoot,
735
00:40:01,100 –> 00:40:06,200
Gary.
Like I thought of feet for my
736
00:40:06,200 –> 00:40:09,100
height.
I It was funny enough when they
737
00:40:09,100 –> 00:40:11,300
were like, oh, yeah, people
called him big foot.
738
00:40:11,300 –> 00:40:15,700
And then it’s the, it’s the, the
meth woman who in the car is
739
00:40:15,700 –> 00:40:17,700
like, oh Bigfoot.
Yeah, I know him.
740
00:40:17,700 –> 00:40:20,500
His name is Bigfoot, Gary.
Yes.
741
00:40:20,900 –> 00:40:25,100
Oh, that’s not is cool.
It was so funny though because
742
00:40:25,100 –> 00:40:28,400
they also did a thing that was
very documentary e where they
743
00:40:28,400 –> 00:40:29,600
were like.
Yeah.
744
00:40:29,600 –> 00:40:32,600
So people keep getting keep
saying that there’s murders by
745
00:40:32,600 –> 00:40:38,300
Bigfoot and then it’s like so we
talked to Bigfoot Gary Guys
746
00:40:38,300 –> 00:40:41,700
trying to say without saying
that these people.
747
00:40:42,800 –> 00:40:46,800
Yeah but the but then yeah.
See how he’s just a dick.
748
00:40:46,800 –> 00:40:51,400
Yeah I do.
Seems like not a murderer, just
749
00:40:51,400 –> 00:40:54,600
not nice.
And I think one of the things
750
00:40:54,600 –> 00:40:56,900
that might be informing, Jen’s
opinion.
751
00:40:56,900 –> 00:41:00,300
There is that at one point
Bigfoot Gary’s wife calls and
752
00:41:00,300 –> 00:41:02,600
goes my husband’s not a
murderer.
753
00:41:02,600 –> 00:41:06,000
He’s a dick.
He’s not a murderer.
754
00:41:06,400 –> 00:41:09,900
That’s the best partner and then
she has, he’s like is Bigfoot,
755
00:41:09,900 –> 00:41:12,000
carry their?
Can I just talk to him?
756
00:41:16,500 –> 00:41:20,500
He talked to you, he’s like why
They call you big foot and he’s
757
00:41:20,500 –> 00:41:24,900
like, I got big feet.
What do you want?
758
00:41:24,900 –> 00:41:29,800
Well, we eventually find a very
wasn’t even there in 1993.
759
00:41:29,800 –> 00:41:33,000
Yeah, more like Bigfoot.
Not very there.
760
00:41:33,000 –> 00:41:39,200
Was another Gary he needed to
think that the other Gary, so
761
00:41:39,600 –> 00:41:43,200
yeah, for McGary from there,
like, I don’t want to give away
762
00:41:43,200 –> 00:41:47,000
too many details from there
because that’s a good spot
763
00:41:47,000 –> 00:41:52,000
because it really It’s taking
some twists and turns and it
764
00:41:52,000 –> 00:41:55,900
seems like what happened is
going to be one thing kind of
765
00:41:55,900 –> 00:41:59,400
right up to the end and then
what they settle on for an
766
00:41:59,400 –> 00:42:04,500
explanation is just.
Wow, so good, it’s so good.
767
00:42:04,500 –> 00:42:09,800
Granted probably a hate crime
and the the people involved are
768
00:42:09,800 –> 00:42:12,400
monsters.
But oh, man, that the
769
00:42:12,400 –> 00:42:16,300
meth-fueled planning that went
into it and the plan they came
770
00:42:16,300 –> 00:42:21,100
out of it with amazing.
I am So happy I was on this
771
00:42:21,100 –> 00:42:23,600
because I wouldn’t click
something that was called
772
00:42:23,600 –> 00:42:29,500
Sasquatch to watch without given
some exposition of it being like
773
00:42:29,500 –> 00:42:30,800
this.
Do you know what I mean?
774
00:42:30,800 –> 00:42:32,800
Like I’m like, oh it’s a squat
whatever.
775
00:42:32,800 –> 00:42:36,900
Yeah, once the I was like what
is this going to be tone-wise?
776
00:42:37,000 –> 00:42:39,700
And then the opening was
produced by the duplass brothers
777
00:42:39,700 –> 00:42:43,300
and I was like, I’m fucking in.
Yeah.
778
00:42:43,600 –> 00:42:46,900
Anything those fuckers make.
I really, really well.
779
00:42:47,200 –> 00:42:48,900
Yeah.
And I actually didn’t know this
780
00:42:48,900 –> 00:42:52,900
was Was adeplast Brothers thing.
Until I started watching it and
781
00:42:52,900 –> 00:42:54,100
I was like, oh, fuck.
Yeah.
782
00:42:54,100 –> 00:42:56,200
This is gonna be good.
What do you think their homes?
783
00:42:56,200 –> 00:42:58,700
Look, like, just like
conspiracies, all over the
784
00:42:58,700 –> 00:43:01,000
place.
What if they live in that motel
785
00:43:01,000 –> 00:43:02,300
room from room?
104?
786
00:43:03,300 –> 00:43:06,100
Well marks, married to
what’s-her-name, who’s really
787
00:43:06,100 –> 00:43:07,500
funny and I feel like she just
keeps.
788
00:43:07,500 –> 00:43:09,500
She’s really dissecting my joke
that I just.
789
00:43:09,500 –> 00:43:14,000
Yeah, I really think about what
their houses look like.
790
00:43:14,000 –> 00:43:15,900
And I’m like, I feel like very
clean.
791
00:43:15,900 –> 00:43:18,600
I looked up their wedding
registry online.
792
00:43:19,300 –> 00:43:21,200
So definitely.
Yeah.
793
00:43:21,200 –> 00:43:23,700
I mean, if you’re hungry,
Richie, don’t have a clean
794
00:43:23,700 –> 00:43:25,300
house.
I’m in Syria.
795
00:43:25,300 –> 00:43:27,100
Could be rich.
And I have a clean house?
796
00:43:27,200 –> 00:43:29,200
No, no.
I said if you’re rich and don’t
797
00:43:29,200 –> 00:43:31,500
have a clean house.
What are you doing?
798
00:43:31,500 –> 00:43:33,200
Yeah.
What is wrong with you?
799
00:43:33,600 –> 00:43:37,900
Yeah, you could be employing.
People are really.
800
00:43:38,000 –> 00:43:41,200
You’re taking away jobs with
your messy house being rich?
801
00:43:41,200 –> 00:43:44,300
Yeah, it’s like actors who do
their own stunts like you
802
00:43:44,300 –> 00:43:46,800
selfish prick?
Let us stunt person, do that.
803
00:43:48,000 –> 00:43:52,300
So, what did we Did we think of
this documentary all around not?
804
00:43:52,300 –> 00:43:54,800
It was really fun as I set up
top.
805
00:43:55,500 –> 00:43:58,700
Yeah, I’d give it like a and a
half or a nine out of ten.
806
00:43:58,700 –> 00:44:01,100
Honestly, I really, really
enjoyed it.
807
00:44:01,100 –> 00:44:05,500
Also for the dark like, what
dark Mists is in it.
808
00:44:05,500 –> 00:44:08,200
They still do a really good job
of presenting it that, it made
809
00:44:08,200 –> 00:44:11,900
me not super depressed because
it was a lot of again, stuff
810
00:44:11,900 –> 00:44:15,600
that like, you already know as a
systemic issue, you know?
811
00:44:16,100 –> 00:44:18,700
Yeah.
And it’s I mean, the, the racism
812
00:44:18,700 –> 00:44:21,900
is Problem.
And it can I’m already super
813
00:44:21,900 –> 00:44:25,300
depressed about things that were
brought to attention in this.
814
00:44:25,300 –> 00:44:28,200
Yeah.
Yeah I thought it was pretty
815
00:44:28,200 –> 00:44:30,700
well executed.
I do think it was a little too
816
00:44:30,700 –> 00:44:34,700
long but I mean at least it
wasn’t six episodes which is
817
00:44:34,700 –> 00:44:37,700
what got it could have been to.
They could have really stretched
818
00:44:37,700 –> 00:44:40,400
a bitch out and had more
interviews and shit.
819
00:44:40,400 –> 00:44:42,100
Yeah.
But it also could have been a
820
00:44:42,100 –> 00:44:44,300
90-minute documentary.
Yes.
821
00:44:45,200 –> 00:44:47,700
Yeah.
I could have seen a different
822
00:44:47,700 –> 00:44:51,300
filmmaker like trying to make
all those different theories
823
00:44:51,300 –> 00:44:55,100
into one episode.
So you’re like following like
824
00:44:55,100 –> 00:44:57,900
the rape Theory or the I don’t
want to give away all the
825
00:44:57,900 –> 00:45:00,500
theories but and then you get to
the end of the episode.
826
00:45:00,500 –> 00:45:01,600
They’re like, nope.
Wasn’t that?
827
00:45:01,600 –> 00:45:03,000
We’ll talk about a different one
next time.
828
00:45:03,000 –> 00:45:05,600
It’s like fucking don’t bore us
get to the chorus.
829
00:45:06,100 –> 00:45:08,900
So I appreciated that this
wasn’t that long I thought
830
00:45:08,900 –> 00:45:11,400
everyone in.
It was relatively likable except
831
00:45:11,400 –> 00:45:15,700
for a bunch of the criminals who
seem like some racist fucks.
832
00:45:15,800 –> 00:45:17,700
Yes.
Most of the talking heads are
833
00:45:17,700 –> 00:45:21,500
fine, except the Cop who and
also I liked that.
834
00:45:21,500 –> 00:45:25,700
Nobody who is bad is glamorized,
right?
835
00:45:25,700 –> 00:45:30,000
No glamorization of anything
happening that was terrible.
836
00:45:30,000 –> 00:45:33,000
Which is really refreshing
because I’ll feel like so many
837
00:45:33,000 –> 00:45:36,800
documentaries.
Like glamorize horrible murder.
838
00:45:37,100 –> 00:45:38,600
Yeah.
They sure do.
839
00:45:38,600 –> 00:45:40,300
Yeah.
It was very much not that in
840
00:45:40,300 –> 00:45:41,600
this.
It was a very, let’s get down to
841
00:45:41,600 –> 00:45:43,800
business.
I agree.
842
00:45:43,900 –> 00:45:45,800
Yeah.
It doesn’t end the way you’re
843
00:45:45,800 –> 00:45:49,000
expecting.
I would say I did actually,
844
00:45:49,100 –> 00:45:52,500
Actually though, at one point
watching it, have that thought,
845
00:45:52,600 –> 00:45:55,600
like is this what they do?
It like I don’t want to say, but
846
00:45:55,600 –> 00:45:59,100
I did have have the thought that
maybe, maybe they just, you
847
00:45:59,100 –> 00:46:01,600
know, I don’t ever well,
everyone go watch this.
848
00:46:01,600 –> 00:46:04,700
Please everyone.
So we can talk, we doubt us so
849
00:46:04,700 –> 00:46:07,900
we can talk about it with you.
Yeah, we’ll have all of you
850
00:46:07,900 –> 00:46:09,500
about it more at.
I’m all talk about.
851
00:46:09,500 –> 00:46:15,200
The ending may be on Trend Pony.
Oh, little promo for Trend,
852
00:46:15,200 –> 00:46:19,000
Pony.
I mean, just an idea, I like it.
853
00:46:19,300 –> 00:46:22,700
Why did you say idea like that
idea?
854
00:46:23,000 –> 00:46:26,100
No idea.
I don’t know, I’ve been talking
855
00:46:26,100 –> 00:46:30,000
for like, four hours.
That’s a good point.
856
00:46:30,000 –> 00:46:35,200
We should probably wrap this up.
Why do we have to plug?
857
00:46:35,200 –> 00:46:38,100
You should listen to Trend Pony
on the on pops Network
858
00:46:38,200 –> 00:46:41,200
patreon.com on pops, run, pops
Network that super cast out
859
00:46:41,200 –> 00:46:43,200
Tech.
If you’re, if you’re not
860
00:46:43,200 –> 00:46:44,600
listening to it.
Hey, fuck you.
861
00:46:45,300 –> 00:46:48,400
It’s a podcast.
I host with Jessica singer, and
862
00:46:48,400 –> 00:46:51,100
Jan, Scott.
Got our guests today, that’s
863
00:46:51,100 –> 00:46:53,900
them.
We should maybe record another
864
00:46:53,900 –> 00:46:57,400
episode of that soon like me.
Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.
865
00:46:57,600 –> 00:47:00,600
I leave for Costa Rica on
Thursday.
866
00:47:00,700 –> 00:47:05,400
Saturday schedule, everybody.
She’s leaving the country
867
00:47:06,600 –> 00:47:08,900
Jessica.
What do you have to plug Jen?
868
00:47:08,900 –> 00:47:11,900
And I are on a show in Chicago.
Oh my God.
869
00:47:14,500 –> 00:47:16,800
On August 25th, please come to
that.
870
00:47:16,800 –> 00:47:18,900
It’s women.
Crush Wednesday is at me.
871
00:47:19,100 –> 00:47:23,500
Buddy, Chicago, I’ve never been
to Chicago, Jenna’s from
872
00:47:23,500 –> 00:47:26,100
Chicago.
True Chicago’s great.
873
00:47:26,400 –> 00:47:30,900
We’re gonna have so much fun.
It’ll be in LA, but I do have
874
00:47:30,900 –> 00:47:33,000
high.
Do I have?
875
00:47:33,000 –> 00:47:36,100
What is this coming out?
I have tomorrow.
876
00:47:36,200 –> 00:47:41,300
Oh great, great great.
Great I have sharpened Turf
877
00:47:41,300 –> 00:47:46,300
which is August 12th.
The Thursday I have a show in
878
00:47:46,300 –> 00:47:51,100
San Clemente on the 13th.
And you can check my Instagram
879
00:47:51,100 –> 00:47:53,200
for more because there’s
definitely more.
880
00:47:53,200 –> 00:47:54,100
Whoo, whoo.
Whoo.
881
00:47:54,100 –> 00:47:56,900
Whoo.
I don’t have any shows.
882
00:47:57,000 –> 00:47:59,300
Don’t don’t come see me.
Don’t come find me.
883
00:48:00,100 –> 00:48:06,400
Find him still staying inside.
All right, let’s get the fuck
884
00:48:06,500 –> 00:48:09,500
out of here.
Jessica say goodbye, ai-jen.
885
00:48:10,400 –> 00:48:12,000
Say goodbye.
Goodbye.
886
00:48:12,900 –> 00:48:14,200
Goodbye everybody.
We love you.