Conspiracy! The Show The Jeffrey Epstein Story

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The transparent.
Hey everybody, Welcome to

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conspiracy the show.
I’m Adam, Todd Brown.

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I’m Laura Crawford.
We are your hosts, and we are

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talking about a thing.
We’ve talked about a couple

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times on this podcast, which is
Jeffrey Epstein.

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Whoo.
Whoo Gerry Epstein as he was

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called by Senator.
Kennedy the the same Senator

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Kennedy from the video we played
at the top of the episode.

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Yeah, he doesn T say Jerry
Epstein.

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Am I imagining things now?
I don’t remember.

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I’ll have to go back and like
actually listening to this

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podcast which deaf.
Yep old Jeff.

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Pep odep that scoundrel dead in
the ground but not that in our

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hearts, right?
We know, never, moreover this

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man.
And that’s the thing.

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We’ve never really done an
episode, just about what Jeffrey

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Epstein did.
We’ve done episodes like

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speculating on his death and
things of the sort, but never

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really one that just Through the
story of what he did.

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And that’s what we’re talking
about today by way of an ABC

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documentary called Truth and
lies Jeffrey Epstein.

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Yeah.
And it’s available on Hulu right

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now.
This came out in 2020.

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So it is pretty much updated
we’re coming up on it’s not too

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far off now from the one-year
anniversary of Jeff Epps death.

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Oh my God, what are you doing to
celebrate?

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Oh my God, I’m going to hang
some drywall, hate some

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Christmas ornaments, some other
things that don’t hide them.

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Ourselves those things don’t
hang themselves, just a reminder

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about this documentary.
It’s like I said from ABC and I

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think most mainstream media is
pretty close to being State

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media at this point.
So you have to keep that in

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mind.
When you watch this documentary,

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I do prefer that it’s shorter
than the Netflix documentary.

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I think the Netflix documentary
kind of gets into, like, tragedy

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porn territory at some point.
Where it’s just really, really

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going into graphic detail about
the crimes like the act itself

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and that gets really heavy.
And also just most documentaries

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that are a series, don’t need to
be a series like you can sum it

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up in an hour and 20 minutes
like ABC did here.

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But I also think, ABC leaves
some pretty big stuff out.

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Mostly relating to Trump it’s
true.

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Yeah, I was going to say so
people probably seen the Netflix

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documentary is trending.
I think was no.

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Other one on Netflix for a
while.

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And now it’s about number three
or number four.

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At the time.
We’re recording this and it is

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a, the Netflix one is a four
episodes and I found it a

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tremendous struggle to get
through, watching all of it,

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because of the nature of the
program and everything, and the

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witness testimony.
And yeah.

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So it is, it is an endurance
test.

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Particularly if anyone is a
victim of child, sex, abuse or

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any kind of intimate partner
violence, anything like that,

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you will find it.
Extremely true, Rain and

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disturbing probably even more so
than regular viewer and it will,

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yeah, fuck your life up.
And definitely, I mean, if you

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want to just go to the essence,
the story without possibly

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traumatizing yourself.
Maybe watch the one on Hulu the

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message.
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It’s it’s very detailed and it
is a rough watch for sure.

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And we’ll the one doesn’t have
the sorry to interrupt.

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He doesn’t have the house
manager from st.

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Thomas property.
The Netflix one has some

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different Witnesses.
Yes, but it is a lot of the same

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overlap.
So I mean, if you’re thinking

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about that, I mean there maybe
is a little more coverage in the

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Netflix one.
Yeah, the the thing I appreciate

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the Netflix.
Documentary doing is bringing up

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Trump and interviewing someone
who claims Trump was at the

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West.
Palm Beach residents watching

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young girls, try on bikinis,
which sounds like a fucking

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Trump thing.
And who knows where it went from

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there.
But Trump doesn’t get mentioned.

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At all in this.
And there was a lawsuit filed

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against him by a girl, who
claims she was raped by Trump at

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Jeffrey.
Epstein’s residence.

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Yes, she said that happened in
1994 and she was 13 years old.

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And is that when that be the
same age, close to the same age

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as his daughter?
Oh, I’m sure.

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Yeah, yeah.
About that.

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Probably just our was maybe a
bit younger but she claims that

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she was raped by Donald Trump.
When she was 13 1994 in Jeffrey

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Epstein.
Epstein’s property in Manhattan

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which is one of the largest
private properties in Manhattan,

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if not, the largest and one of
the first people that we kick

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off talking to in both the Hulu
documentary, in the Netflix

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documentaries, Maria farmer,
Maria farmer claims that she

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worked at this townhouse that
Jeffrey Epstein had checking in

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a lot of very young girls which
she worked was.

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Told they were Victoria Secret
models nice cover, but, or

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giving massages or something of
that nature.

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But the woman who had the
complaint against Donald Trump,

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she withdrew her lawsuit She
said, she was threatened or her

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life was threatened.
And though, that’s where that

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went, if you can believe that.
Why would that happen?

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Yeah, definitely.
The Trump seems not knowing to

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intimidating.
Any women who have actually

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Donald Trump or accuse him of
anything?

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No, absolutely not.
Yeah, and the thing about Maria

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farmer, she’s the first person
that reported Epstein to the

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authorities way back in 1996.
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That we know of definitely, I
mean we talked a little bit

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about Epstein’s life and they do
mention that he was a teacher at

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a school, a private high school
in the 70s, but the nothing has

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come out from that time that we
know Maria is the first one in

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1996, right?
And that that time, he spent as

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a teacher, has always been
really interesting to me because

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for one thing, he doesn’t, as
far as I know, have a college

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degree.
No, they mentioned that it both

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documentaries that he didn’t
graduate from college.

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There’s no reason given and but
they say that he was brilliant

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at math and that he sort of lied
about having a college degree

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and then he got to work at this
very prominent.

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York City public private school
called The Dalton School

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teaching math, right?
And one that actually kind of

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jogs my memory, a little bit
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Interesting interview in the
Netflix documentary they talked

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to the guy who hired him at the
Dalton school.

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And at one point that guy found
out Jeffrey Epstein lied and he

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was going to fire Jeffrey
Epstein and Jeffrey Epstein like

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Charmed his way out of it and
talked the guy into letting him

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keep the job.
And he in that interview is like

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to this day.
I’m like, if I had fired him

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with that of kind of stopped his
Ascent because that’s where he

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meets all of these Ultra rich
people because the Dalton school

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is a very prestigious private
school and he meets all these

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Finance people and all of these
wealthy Elite types and flips

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that into a job at Bear Stearns.
Whereas the story could have

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been they found out he lied and
he got fired.

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And he just disappeared Into
Obscurity.

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But instead, when he got caught,
someone cut him a break, because

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that’s how it works for white
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Well, I was going to say, this
situation would be that, you

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know, imagine if you were fired
from The Dalton school, people

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would have found out about it.
So all the other rich people in

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that Circle would have found out
that he was fired and what he

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was fired for and that he
probably could have been hired

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in New York City, an exclusive
high school, but I think it

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would have been harder for him
to transition to another city

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and Repeat the same scheme.
I don’t know if he could have

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done that because like they
said, he was very New York.

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He had that thick Brooklyn
accent.

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I don’t think he could have gone
to Los Angeles and maneuvered

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his way into working for a
high-powered private school

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there.
I’d, I think it could possibly

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could have totally stopped there
in New York, you know?

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Yeah, yeah.
Spent yeah, that’s, that’s a

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good point with that accent,
especially because you take that

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accent to the Midwest.
People are going to be like I

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don’t trust this guy fucks.
Yeah, right.

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Hmm.
Yeah.

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Where I think it would have been
harder the older.

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He got, I think it would have
been harder.

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Just came his way into a
teaching position at one of the

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prestigious School.
Particularly if it were people

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who might have known that, he
was fired for that before but he

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got connected to all these rich
people who work for places like

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bear Stearns.
Like we’re saying real den of

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iniquity a turns right?
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And because Bears have dense
they’re evil.

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They are ya fuck bears.
We bailed them out, so they

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could hire more sex.
Predators to work for them,

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correct?
Including Jeffrey Epstein.

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He worked for them for a while
and that’s where he met Leslie,

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Wexner, who is to this day.
The only confirmed client of

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Jeffrey Epstein.
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being a financial investor, like
true Leslie.

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Wexner was his only client and
somehow that made him Rich

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enough to buy a fucking Private
Island and the largest private

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property in Manhattan, right?
So it’s property in Palm Beach,

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property in Palm Beach property
and St.

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Thomas, ranch in New Mexico,
large private residence in

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Manhattan.
I think also possibly Paris and

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London.
Yeah, I think Paris for sure,

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probably London.
Also, I mean, it got to ask this

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is the 80s.
Yeah, I gotta ask, which have

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seen house is your favorite.
I got to go with the New Mexico,

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Ranch, and It’s interesting too
because Bill Richardson,

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Governor.
New Mexico is one of the men

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whose named by Virginia Godfrey,
who woman, who accused prince

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Andrew.
She’s also accused Governor Bill

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Richardson.
So it’s highly probable that he

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knew exactly what was going on
at Epstein’s Ranch and did

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nothing about it.
Yeah, I like the New Mexico

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Ranch to eat place.
I mean the st.

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Thomas one reminds me of like
the most dangerous game or it

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like you swim off the island.
It’s like an evil sort of like a

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James Bond villain type of thing
you know F since I thought the

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volcano, if you try Massage mm.
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At least if the New Mexico
Ranch, like a UFO might save you

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or something.
Yeah, you have to run off to

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Area. 51, I’ll tell you where,
the way I real creeps are back

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here, we are here to save you.
I don’t know why the alien sound

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like robots.
I don’t know why that happened.

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One thing I got to say, I’m
majorly prefer in the Hulu dock

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to the Netflix.
One is Maria Farmers creepy.

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Pedophilic artwork isn’t creepy
featured as much that creep.

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The fuck out of me.
Yeah, when you see the The

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painting that Jeffrey Epstein
bought from her, it’s like oh I

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get why he wanted that painting.
All her paintings are of girls

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going through puberty and what
really bothers me is Maria

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farmer says that she took photos
of her sisters.

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Underaged, my question was,
who’s processing those photos?

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What did she send them down to
the one-hour photo?

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To get them done?
So the guy at the shop fucking

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saw, your sister did 11 year old
sister naked.

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It’s like, why did you have
those photos what?

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Well, she might have developed
them herself.

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I would I hope so that creep the
shit out of me and then she’s

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like, oh, no, he stole my
photos.

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It’s like yeah, no shit.
Don’t don’t take naked photos of

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children.
You fucking creep.

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It reminds me of Lena Dunham how
she got accused of sexually

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assaulting her sister because
she wrote about like touch to

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your sisters vagina and stuff in
her book when her sister was

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like three right and did it.
I believe without her sisters

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knowledge like it was in the
book one day and her sister was

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like what the fuck?
Yeah anyway, so on to Maria

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farmer, she is a victim.
I’m not trying to like day that

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she’s an asshole or responsible
for anything that happened but

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Her artwork does depict dude
children and she was like, oh my

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God, this pedophile wants to buy
my art.

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That’s how I came across.
Yeah.

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Well, she didn’t she didn’t know
he was a pedophile at that

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point.
No because she by he buys the

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artwork and then ends up hiring
her to basically procure art for

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him.
But also to be the door person

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at his place in Manhattan.
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Yeah.
It seems like kind of normal At

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first she in the Netflix talk.
She does tell a story about And

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Guggenheim who sorry, I think is
Mary Guggenheim or this woman

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who runs the paint the painting
program that she was in.

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She negotiated Maria Farmers
meeting of Epstein and I believe

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they’re still removed Shin at
the school but she currently has

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like terminal cancer right now
so I don’t know what’s going on

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with that.
Can look into it more but they

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like majorly low-balled or on
the offer was like you’re going

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to take this you have to take
this and you know really

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demonized or into doing it,
bullied her right and this offer

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so I don’t know.
It speaks to a whole network of

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art people.
Who-who Are All Creeps shocking.

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Yeah.
Go figure.

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Yeah.
So what happens with Maria

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farmer is at one point, she is
sent to this residence owned by

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Leslie, Wexner in Ohio to work
on an art project.

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And while she’s out there,
Jeffrey Epstein and delaying,

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Maxwell, show up and basically
rape her violently raped her and

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she ends up reporting it to the
FBI at Point, and nothing really

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happens.
Yes, she does say that

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sensually, she had to barricade
herself in her room because she

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was so afraid of him trying to
get at her and well asked her

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and she describes being, you
know, Glenn Maxwell being

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involved and then being at the
house, which is owned by a

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Wexner.
And it’s like, the largest by

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presidents and Ohio and it kind
of this whole story about these

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massive private residence,
everything reminded me to of

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Foxfire.
If you’re watched that with a Du

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Pont family and I don’t think
kind of you mean foxcatcher

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foxcatcher family and they’re
sort of connections and control

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of the private police.
And for anyone who’s like why

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wouldn’t you just call the cops?
It’s like, I doubt the cops

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would have done anything at all.
In this instance it come out to

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this giant private residence,
you know.

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Right to help her.
So she was a summary of farmer

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eventually ends up getting her
sister involved, her younger

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sister in the in this
partnership with them too

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because she believes that
Epstein and Maxwell are going to

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support her education.
And I think it’s the sister

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whose gets brought to New Mexico
and all right.

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Right.
And they and they molest her

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there and yeah.
So this seems this is not kind

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of typical of what he did later
in pump West Palm Beach and that

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it’s not like a rotating system
of girls.

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But it does seem like Jeffrey
Epstein was you know not worried

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about an FBI investigation at
all.

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No and especially when he gets
to West Palm Beach or when he

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Gets to Palm Beach because that
is a very important distinction

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which comes up in both
documentaries.

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Palm Beach is very affluent.
It’s a very probably the

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wealthiest part of Florida and
then West Palm Beach is not that

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West Palm Beach is a more of a
low-income area and Jeffrey

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Epstein would get his victims
from vulnerable.

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He would basically You find
girls who were in vulnerable

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situations, be it financially or
because of trouble at home.

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And that’s who he would pray on.
This was a network and Jeffrey,

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also had different assistance,
which they mention.

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And this, who were going out and
picking up girls possibly like,

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the mall or something like that
or seeing them out and talking

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to them and Sarah, Kellen.
I think is one of them, but

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name.
Yeah, there’s two.

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Yeah, that’s, that’s one of the
things I Struggle with watching

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these documentaries, is that
what point?

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Because they’re like, there’s
one girl, especially that they

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interview in the Netflix,
documentary, who, if I recall

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correctly, she goes to.
She gets talked into going to

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Jeffrey Epstein’s house during
this massage, he tries to make

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it sexual and she’s just like,
no, got obviously not, I’m not

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going to have sex with you, but
then becomes a recruiter for

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him.
And she is, I mean, everyone.

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Is a victim in this pretty much
except Jeffrey, Epstein and

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Chilean Maxwell, because without
what they did, none of this

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other stuff happens, but it
seems like a fine line between

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the girl.
They interview in the Netflix

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documentary and someone like
Sarah Kellen, who probably came

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to him the same way and just had
been there longer.

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And it happened back before
anyone was reporting this.

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And now she’s just kind of a
fucking robot whose Grammed to

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follow the commands of her
abuser.

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So it’s like she’s a victim too.
But also she was a participant

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which is exactly the problem.
I guess the distinction becomes

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be chained up.
You’re an adult dominated of

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your team doing it.
I think of your 14 year old man

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recruiting other 14 year olds.
I think it’s somewhat lessons

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that idea of it versus of your
like a nineteen-year-old doing

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it.
Yeah.

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But that’s that’s the kind of up
for the law to decide with me

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and it’s difficult.
It’s like, or if you look at

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something like the people’s
temple with Jim Do you blame the

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people who were feeding people
Kool-Aid as much as blame?

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Jim Jones and I don’t ya you,
but you really can’t because

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again, all of it starts with Jim
Jones, right?

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Or Hitler.
I mean, you blaze, every not

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does every Nazi every person who
wore that uniform bear the same

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amount of responsibility, as
Hitler.

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Yes, fuck Nazis on thing.
People injured who are living in

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Germany.
I think some of them toward a

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degree sort of brainwashed, and
I think some of them, they don’t

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bear as much responsibility but
they bear responsibility.

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We’re obviously we had in the
Nuremberg.

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Ugh trials and everything like
that.

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But yeah, with charismatic
people like that the sense of

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manipulation runs very deep in
the way that they use people,

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you know, people are tools and
their different tools for

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different jobs and they are
definitely being used in these

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instances.
The, the shots that we get a

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Florida yet, it makes it look
really grim.

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And you realize that a lot of
these girls they did pray on the

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fact that these girls probably
also had been abused before like

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they were talking about how in
one of the questionings.

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There was a girl who had three
abortions when of Jeffrey

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Epstein’s lawyers.
Said, what’s worse having three?

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Martians are being abused by mr.
I think yeah, that that becomes

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a thing where and that’s how,
you know, Jeffrey Epstein wasn’t

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worried about what would happen
if he got arrested because at

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one point one of the parents of
these, girls actually calls the

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police.
And the police do actually

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execute a search warrant on
Jeffrey Epstein’s, Palm Beach

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residents.
The problem is Jeffrey, Epstein

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had been quoted before this as
saying I own the police.

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Nice, like the there’s not
really anything.

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The police are going to do and
sure enough, someone tipped him

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off that this raid was coming.
So, all of his computers were

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gone.
All of this video cameras were

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gone and not only, does he get
away with just a misdemeanor

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solicitation of prostitution
charge, which is nuts and we’ll

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get to that in a second.
But he also starts like

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counter-surveillance on the
police and on the victims like

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really blatantly, like Cop like
the the cop they interview is

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like if you do surveillance for
a living, you know, when you’re

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being surveilled in return and
he was like, I was followed for

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like three months.
Bye, Jeffrey.

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Epstein’s people.
Like he threw all his resources

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into it.
He threw an entirely, his all he

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had into it and then, you know,
one of the cops in the thing is

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the Netflix jockey points out
that I’ve seen, had given a

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hundred thousand dollar donation
to the police, the Palm Beach,

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Police Department to buy
equipment.

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This is before any accusations
came out, you know what he was

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doing.
He knew that he was buying them

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all off and that’s not to say
that was well, that’s what was

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on the books.
That’s what they can officially

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declare.
It’s nothing to say of, if

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Jeffrey Epstein turned up in,
someone’s driveway offering

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them, a new car.
If someone said, well, sorry,

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this is a side point, but
Epstein made a different point

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that he says to the Vanity Fair
reporter.

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I know, all the doctors in all
the hospitals and I can get you

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while you’re giving birth.
So, did epsteen epsteen probably

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knew everybody at every College.
If your kid wants to go to

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college, I can make that happen.
If your mother’s getting

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treatment at a hospital, I can
get her.

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The best doctors, there’s an
Untold number of ways that we

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are not even aware of the
Jeffrey.

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Epstein, could have completely
been owning the police time for

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anybody.
Yeah, and that’s not too.

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I mean, all cops are bastards.
But that’s not to imply that

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every cop related to this case
was bad.

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There were there were police who
tried genuinely tried to

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investigate this and prosecute
it properly.

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The FBI at one point.
It does genuinely try to

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prosecute this.
They build a what they think is

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a really compelling case that is
going to put Jeffrey Epstein

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away for a long, long time.
And then, at some point,

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something happens and that
entire case gets worked down to

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a misdemeanor charge of
soliciting prostitution.

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So basically they’re saying
these girls were not victims of

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sexual assault or a pedophile.
These girls were prostitutes

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which is It’s quite insane.
It’s a imagine.

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If you were to commit a crime
and you had 50 to 60 witnesses,

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that can testify first-hand
accounts of you committing this

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crime, how is that not the gold?
Mine of absolute evidence.

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I mean it’s just you don’t get
cases like that.

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Like for a prosecutor.
It’s really a slam dunk or any

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kind of investigating team you
never get.

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That’s so much evidence.
And the, I think, please were

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genuinely horrified when it came
down to solicit prostitution,

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Because it just there’s no
there’s no logic at all in that

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because children can’t be
prostitute, right?

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And you can give money children
for sex but that does not make

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them a prostitute and what’s
crazy is he got that charge

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basically twice because when the
police launched their

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investigation, the state’s
attorney at one point is like,

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yeah, this is just a misdemeanor
and they’re like, what like what

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this is child sex trafficking,
what do you mean?

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It’s a misdemeanor and the
States Attorney Barry.

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Kirsch Gives him one misdemeanor
count of soliciting

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prostitution, that’s the charge
he gets, and this is after

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Jeffrey, Epstein fires off a
bunch of letters to the state’s

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attorney, basically attacking
the character of these girls and

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saying, hey man, these are just
prostitutes.

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I didn’t know they were underage
and the state’s attorney Falls

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for it and decides it’s just a
misdemeanor and that’s how the

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FBI gets involved.
Because at that point, the

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police turn it over to the FBI.
And the FBI is like, holy shit.

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Yeah, we want to look into this
in the FBI builds their case and

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then Jeffrey Epstein gets a
felony prostitution, charge.

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And that’s when the Alex Acosta
deal happens where he basically

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got 18 months in prison but with
work-release sand did not abide

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by that work.
Really like he would leave jail

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for sure but he wasn’t going to
work he was just outliving his

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fucking life.
It’s an instance where you have

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to imagine the These have been
working on this for a very long

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time and told all of these
victims that he’s going to be

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going away for a very long time
and then, none of that happens

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at all.
Yeah, so we have to see so also

437
00:23:32,700 –> 00:23:35,800
like the people who said that
they were prostitutes.

438
00:23:36,100 –> 00:23:38,700
So I’m just reminded of Alan
dershowitz who’s like, oh, he

439
00:23:38,700 –> 00:23:41,000
told me.
Oh, maybe one of them was 17 or

440
00:23:41,000 –> 00:23:44,100
one or two and Alan dershowitz.
It’s like, and I believed him

441
00:23:44,100 –> 00:23:47,200
and it’s like, are we to believe
that you are that fucking stupid

442
00:23:47,300 –> 00:23:50,300
or are, or do we real it?
So we have two answers with that

443
00:23:50,300 –> 00:23:52,600
which is Alan.
Dershowitz is a a fucking moron

444
00:23:52,700 –> 00:23:55,600
or a lenders would think he can
just lie and make everyone

445
00:23:55,600 –> 00:23:57,900
convinced everyone.
He’s a fucking moron even though

446
00:23:57,900 –> 00:24:00,200
every other aspect of his life
is spent convincing everyone.

447
00:24:00,200 –> 00:24:02,100
He’s brilliant.
But only in this instance, if

448
00:24:02,100 –> 00:24:04,600
you fucking moron, right?
That makes sense.

449
00:24:04,600 –> 00:24:07,900
In this one case he was duped.
Yeah, he’s like oh and I just

450
00:24:07,900 –> 00:24:09,100
hope believe them.
Totally.

451
00:24:09,100 –> 00:24:12,200
Yeah, that happens all the time
that you think she’s 18 and

452
00:24:12,200 –> 00:24:14,700
she’s not yeah.
That happened fifty or sixty

453
00:24:14,700 –> 00:24:16,400
there’s 50 or 60 victims and
he’s like yeah.

454
00:24:16,400 –> 00:24:19,500
So I just I felt like it was
just once it’s just it is so

455
00:24:19,500 –> 00:24:23,100
disgusting that he has the gall
to One television in try to act

456
00:24:23,100 –> 00:24:26,300
like that is at all believable.
I just if I were the reporting I

457
00:24:26,308 –> 00:24:27,800
really do you think I’m a
fucking idiot?

458
00:24:27,800 –> 00:24:30,300
It’s unbelievable.
So all these guys are just like

459
00:24:30,300 –> 00:24:31,900
you know they really sweep it
under the rug.

460
00:24:31,900 –> 00:24:34,600
I remember reading about this
case in 2006 or so through the

461
00:24:34,600 –> 00:24:37,100
website, The Smoking Gun because
he was so extraordinary about

462
00:24:37,100 –> 00:24:39,400
what deal he had gotten and his
test.

463
00:24:39,400 –> 00:24:42,500
The testimony that came out
where they ask him if he has an

464
00:24:42,500 –> 00:24:45,300
egg-shaped penis.
Oh yeah, he storms out of the

465
00:24:45,300 –> 00:24:47,800
room during one of those
depositions when they ask if he

466
00:24:47,800 –> 00:24:50,100
has an egg shape penis.
Well that’s what’s so

467
00:24:50,100 –> 00:24:52,900
extraordinary is you really It
reminds me of that Chappelle

468
00:24:52,900 –> 00:24:54,900
Show sketch, where they’re
talking about the white Justice

469
00:24:54,900 –> 00:24:57,400
is a is black justice system and
it’s like, Faith played the

470
00:24:57,400 –> 00:24:59,800
faith.
That’s what Epstein does in all

471
00:24:59,800 –> 00:25:02,600
of these in this investigation
will actually get him to testify

472
00:25:02,600 –> 00:25:04,600
to anything.
He absolutely gives nothing at

473
00:25:04,600 –> 00:25:06,400
all.
He pleads, the fifth is if the

474
00:25:06,400 –> 00:25:09,200
whole time.
So every time get we get no

475
00:25:09,200 –> 00:25:13,300
information whatsoever, their
investigation About Steam, they

476
00:25:13,300 –> 00:25:15,200
get nothing out of them.
They don’t get any

477
00:25:15,200 –> 00:25:17,000
co-defendants, they don’t get
anything.

478
00:25:18,300 –> 00:25:23,000
I have this sinking suspicion
that the main difference between

479
00:25:23,100 –> 00:25:29,200
the FBI and the CIA like they
both hate radicals, they both

480
00:25:29,300 –> 00:25:32,300
hate liberals, they probably
both hate Communists.

481
00:25:32,800 –> 00:25:36,500
I’m assuming they both hate
terrorism but I feel like only

482
00:25:36,500 –> 00:25:39,600
one of them hates sex
trafficking and that’s the FBI.

483
00:25:39,900 –> 00:25:47,200
I feel like the CIA is I with it
and it really bothers me when

484
00:25:47,400 –> 00:25:51,700
like we A lot of negative
comments on iTunes from Pizza

485
00:25:51,700 –> 00:25:55,500
gate supporters because we did
an episode about how Pizza gate

486
00:25:55,500 –> 00:25:59,600
is mostly bullshit.
And here’s what bothers me, if

487
00:25:59,600 –> 00:26:02,900
you’re a pizza gate supporter
and a Donald Trump supporter.

488
00:26:02,900 –> 00:26:08,800
Those two things can’t exist in
the same space, like, you can’t

489
00:26:08,800 –> 00:26:14,300
believe that Donald Trump is
here to rid the world of satanic

490
00:26:14,300 –> 00:26:17,100
pedophiles.
When Donald Trump, made, Alex

491
00:26:17,100 –> 00:26:20,200
Acosta.
This country’s labor secretary,

492
00:26:20,200 –> 00:26:22,900
the guy who covered for
history’s.

493
00:26:23,200 –> 00:26:28,400
Most despicable pedophile was
put in charge of governing sex

494
00:26:28,400 –> 00:26:30,500
trafficking laws in this country
by Trump.

495
00:26:30,500 –> 00:26:33,200
Trump is not here to save.
You mother fuckers from

496
00:26:33,200 –> 00:26:36,500
pedophiles.
Trump is probably one himself.

497
00:26:36,800 –> 00:26:39,200
Exactly.
You don’t you don’t accuse him.

498
00:26:39,200 –> 00:26:41,700
Hang that label on him.
If he’s fighting sex trafficking

499
00:26:41,700 –> 00:26:45,000
and then put that out there
because also he runs teen beauty

500
00:26:45,000 –> 00:26:47,600
pageants which apparently he
likes to bust in the dressing

501
00:26:47,600 –> 00:26:51,100
room and Girls are changing and
so, anything connected to a

502
00:26:51,108 –> 00:26:53,600
more, he’s connected to all
these Shady modeling agencies in

503
00:26:53,600 –> 00:26:55,600
New York, which have been
connected to sex trafficking,

504
00:26:55,600 –> 00:26:58,200
what’s that about?
Yeah, and the reason I bring the

505
00:26:58,200 –> 00:27:02,500
CIA up as we did in episode,
while back about a group called

506
00:27:02,500 –> 00:27:09,300
The finders, which was this huge
story in like 87 and 88 where

507
00:27:09,300 –> 00:27:15,000
this group this, these two dudes
in suits were found basically

508
00:27:15,000 –> 00:27:17,900
driving this gang of disheveled
kids around.

509
00:27:18,000 –> 00:27:20,400
And in a van and they were like,
oh, we’re taking them to a

510
00:27:20,400 –> 00:27:24,100
special school in Mexico for
brilliant children and people

511
00:27:24,100 –> 00:27:27,000
end up looking into this and
there’s all these investigations

512
00:27:27,000 –> 00:27:31,200
that are launched and it’s
clearly a child trafficking

513
00:27:31,200 –> 00:27:33,700
ring.
Like it’s, they find so much

514
00:27:33,700 –> 00:27:37,300
evidence and the investigation
is going forward, and going

515
00:27:37,300 –> 00:27:40,300
forward.
And then the CIA shows up in the

516
00:27:40,300 –> 00:27:42,900
CIA shows up and they tell
everyone else.

517
00:27:43,100 –> 00:27:47,900
This is an internal matter and
it’s done no one went to jail.

518
00:27:48,100 –> 00:27:52,300
There were never any trials.
No prosecution’s the CIA just

519
00:27:52,300 –> 00:27:55,800
stepped in and was like well
deal with it and they did not

520
00:27:55,800 –> 00:27:58,600
deal with it whatsoever.
That’s what’s so infuriating

521
00:27:58,600 –> 00:28:00,000
about.
This is a from the point of view

522
00:28:00,000 –> 00:28:04,100
of the lawyers and the victims
is that anytime they want to get

523
00:28:04,100 –> 00:28:06,000
information about something,
what are they told?

524
00:28:06,000 –> 00:28:08,300
So it’s, but it can is part of
an ongoing investigation.

525
00:28:08,300 –> 00:28:09,700
We can’t talk about.
That’s part of an ongoing

526
00:28:09,700 –> 00:28:11,500
investigation.
There are no one has any

527
00:28:11,500 –> 00:28:15,600
responsibility or any obligation
to publish any sort of timeline

528
00:28:15,600 –> 00:28:17,900
about when things are happening
or letting people know?

529
00:28:18,000 –> 00:28:20,400
Or letting victims know what the
fuck’s going on with your case

530
00:28:20,400 –> 00:28:22,800
and say an investigation is
ongoing and just sit on it for

531
00:28:22,800 –> 00:28:25,900
years for years until people die
or they’re sick or too tired or

532
00:28:25,908 –> 00:28:27,300
too poor to do anything about
it.

533
00:28:27,300 –> 00:28:30,100
And that’s just a reality for a
lot of cases, even when the

534
00:28:30,100 –> 00:28:33,000
woman who’s in charge of the
prison system goes and speaks

535
00:28:33,000 –> 00:28:35,700
before congress.
The senators, you know, Lindsey

536
00:28:35,700 –> 00:28:38,300
Graham and all these guys, all
she can say is well the FBI

537
00:28:38,300 –> 00:28:40,400
can’t talk about that because
it’s part of an ongoing FBI

538
00:28:40,400 –> 00:28:43,200
investigation all yelling just
an indefinite label that you can

539
00:28:43,200 –> 00:28:45,700
attach to any sort of
Investigation in this country.

540
00:28:45,700 –> 00:28:49,500
But with abstain, I mean, anyone
who’s Ever worked as a lawyer

541
00:28:49,500 –> 00:28:50,900
anywhere connected to
enforcement.

542
00:28:51,000 –> 00:28:53,700
Cannot believe the work release
program, that he got this man.

543
00:28:53,700 –> 00:28:55,600
Got to work in his own office
every day.

544
00:28:55,600 –> 00:28:58,500
He got to go walk on the beach.
You got to take calls, it

545
00:28:58,500 –> 00:29:00,200
doesn’t seem.
He was in prohibited from using

546
00:29:00,200 –> 00:29:01,700
the internet from what I can
tell.

547
00:29:01,700 –> 00:29:03,900
You know, that’s often a thing
that applies to pedophiles that

548
00:29:03,900 –> 00:29:06,900
you can’t go online.
Yeah, one of the cops who

549
00:29:06,900 –> 00:29:10,300
investigated him at one point
when he was on work release.

550
00:29:10,300 –> 00:29:15,100
Just found him walking around.
I think in Miami and like even

551
00:29:15,100 –> 00:29:19,900
his office I think was 50 miles.
Away from the prison where he

552
00:29:19,900 –> 00:29:21,600
was meeting.
He was meeting dershowitz in a

553
00:29:21,608 –> 00:29:22,600
hotel.
Yeah.

554
00:29:22,600 –> 00:29:25,100
And then he was going to New
York and he’s traveling out of

555
00:29:25,100 –> 00:29:26,300
state.
He was going to the Virgin

556
00:29:26,300 –> 00:29:28,700
Islands, he was huge.
At least I think I said like it

557
00:29:28,700 –> 00:29:31,500
but at least 60 violations his
parole from what they found.

558
00:29:31,600 –> 00:29:36,300
Yeah once he got out he didn’t
abide by any of the sex offender

559
00:29:36,300 –> 00:29:39,900
registry stuff.
There’s a we’ve done a couple of

560
00:29:39,900 –> 00:29:44,300
episodes with Olivia hide our
over the past couple weeks about

561
00:29:44,300 –> 00:29:47,900
this show called The Hunt for
the Trump tapes with Tom Arnold.

562
00:29:48,500 –> 00:29:51,100
Yeah.
It’s a weird fucking show

563
00:29:51,400 –> 00:29:53,300
because it’s hosted by Tom
Arnold.

564
00:29:53,700 –> 00:29:55,000
And those are both bonus
episodes.

565
00:29:55,000 –> 00:29:58,200
People want to subscribe and
give them a listen, but there is

566
00:29:58,500 –> 00:30:04,400
one really genuinely good moment
in that Series where one he

567
00:30:04,400 –> 00:30:07,100
brings up trumps connection to
Jeffrey Epstein.

568
00:30:07,900 –> 00:30:11,900
Well before the Miami Herald
wrote about this, plea deal and

569
00:30:11,908 –> 00:30:13,600
brought it back to everyone’s
attention.

570
00:30:13,600 –> 00:30:17,900
So that was good.
But he also goes to Epstein’s,

571
00:30:18,000 –> 00:30:23,100
In residents and starts handing
out a pedophile, Flyers to

572
00:30:23,100 –> 00:30:26,800
people on the street, basically,
sting saying, hey, did you know,

573
00:30:26,800 –> 00:30:29,100
there’s a pedophile living in
this building?

574
00:30:29,900 –> 00:30:32,500
But yeah, he didn’t have to
Jeffrey Epstein, didn’t have to

575
00:30:32,500 –> 00:30:34,500
do any of that shit.
He didn’t have to tell people.

576
00:30:34,500 –> 00:30:36,700
He was a pedophile, like he got
away.

577
00:30:36,900 –> 00:30:40,300
So fucking easy for crimes.
That should have put him in

578
00:30:40,300 –> 00:30:42,300
prison for life.
Yes.

579
00:30:42,300 –> 00:30:45,000
Yes.
And all in do for anybody else,

580
00:30:45,000 –> 00:30:46,400
who does even a fraction of
these things?

581
00:30:46,400 –> 00:30:47,800
We certainly do.
Go to go away.

582
00:30:48,000 –> 00:30:50,800
For life.
And I was even in doing more

583
00:30:50,800 –> 00:30:53,100
research on this.
I’ve seen a lot of photos than

584
00:30:53,100 –> 00:30:55,200
evolved Naomi Campbell with the
lane, Maxwell.

585
00:30:55,300 –> 00:30:57,200
In that people think that’s a
possible connection that I

586
00:30:57,200 –> 00:31:00,100
hadn’t heard before that she was
doing a lot of model recruitment

587
00:31:00,100 –> 00:31:01,600
for him.
And then all her friends are all

588
00:31:01,600 –> 00:31:03,100
friends with him.
Yeah.

589
00:31:03,200 –> 00:31:07,700
And that like that kind of stuff
gets sketchy for me?

590
00:31:07,900 –> 00:31:09,700
Oh, it’s super sketchy because
it’s like, okay, you can see

591
00:31:09,700 –> 00:31:11,600
there in a photo together,
they’re hanging out.

592
00:31:11,600 –> 00:31:13,800
But I mean, nothing’s
definitive, but the list of

593
00:31:13,800 –> 00:31:17,400
people Barclay CEO was tied to
Epstein just got fired recently

594
00:31:17,400 –> 00:31:20,400
for his Just abstain.
Yeah, see stuff like that.

595
00:31:20,400 –> 00:31:25,900
I but I buy it, but I could also
buy the idea that Naomi Campbell

596
00:31:25,900 –> 00:31:28,500
was sending them modeling
Talent.

597
00:31:28,500 –> 00:31:33,200
Without realizing she was
sending them sexual trafficking

598
00:31:33,200 –> 00:31:35,900
victims or maybe Naomi
Campbell’s a fucking sex

599
00:31:35,900 –> 00:31:36,900
trafficker.
I don’t know.

600
00:31:37,100 –> 00:31:39,400
We but we don’t know, but these
things aren’t coming out right

601
00:31:39,400 –> 00:31:41,600
now and when Epstein got out of
prison.

602
00:31:41,600 –> 00:31:45,000
Yeah, he wasn’t following up
with any of the protocol and he

603
00:31:45,000 –> 00:31:47,600
was embraced for his
philanthropy people loved him

604
00:31:47,600 –> 00:31:50,300
because Give me a lot of money
to places like MIT who’s giving

605
00:31:50,300 –> 00:31:53,400
a lot of money to Bill Gates,
he’s working with Elon Musk and

606
00:31:53,600 –> 00:31:55,700
just he thought he could cover
up.

607
00:31:55,700 –> 00:31:58,000
All of his criminality with
philanthropy is to an extent.

608
00:31:58,000 –> 00:31:59,400
He was right.
The only people were holding him

609
00:31:59,400 –> 00:32:02,000
accountable for the girls who
were, you know, trying to file

610
00:32:02,000 –> 00:32:05,600
civil lawsuit, right?
And the back to the, the little

611
00:32:05,600 –> 00:32:09,400
black book for one second,
there’s one celebrity in

612
00:32:09,400 –> 00:32:13,400
particular, who I think is
getting really unfairly

613
00:32:13,400 –> 00:32:17,300
associated with Jeffrey Epstein.
And that is Chris Tucker because

614
00:32:17,500 –> 00:32:18,800
the Same.
Same me.

615
00:32:19,100 –> 00:32:20,900
Yeah.
Well yeah, you too well I said

616
00:32:20,900 –> 00:32:25,800
unfairly loroco because the
thing about a little black book

617
00:32:25,800 –> 00:32:28,700
like they say it that way
because it sounds tawdry and

618
00:32:28,700 –> 00:32:31,500
scandalous but it’s just an
address book.

619
00:32:31,500 –> 00:32:35,700
It’s just a phone number book
and just being in Jeffrey

620
00:32:35,700 –> 00:32:41,100
Epstein’s book, doesn’t mean you
are a sexual predator and Chris

621
00:32:41,100 –> 00:32:45,100
Tucker in particular for one
thing people, this black book

622
00:32:45,100 –> 00:32:50,100
got leaked on the internet, a
Weeks ago and people acted like

623
00:32:50,100 –> 00:32:53,000
it was this big hack and
information dump.

624
00:32:53,000 –> 00:32:55,700
When that black book has been
online for years and years and

625
00:32:55,700 –> 00:32:57,700
years.
We’ve known the names in that

626
00:32:57,700 –> 00:33:01,400
book for a long, long, long,
long time and people started

627
00:33:01,400 –> 00:33:04,500
calling out Chris Tucker for
being in that book.

628
00:33:04,600 –> 00:33:08,600
When, if you watch the Netflix
documentary, it’s made very

629
00:33:08,600 –> 00:33:11,000
clear.
Why Chris Tucker and Jeffrey.

630
00:33:11,000 –> 00:33:16,200
Epstein were connected and it’s
because Chris Tucker went on a

631
00:33:16,200 –> 00:33:19,200
charity trip.
Promoting, An AIDS awareness in

632
00:33:19,200 –> 00:33:23,400
Africa and Jeffrey Epstein was
part of that trip.

633
00:33:23,500 –> 00:33:26,400
And even in that documentary,
the girls who are on that trip,

634
00:33:26,400 –> 00:33:29,800
make it really clear.
That nothing happened on that

635
00:33:29,800 –> 00:33:31,300
trip.
So ugly.

636
00:33:31,400 –> 00:33:33,400
Yeah, these micro software
alone.

637
00:33:33,700 –> 00:33:37,100
Lily, come on hard.
Part of the issue there is that

638
00:33:37,100 –> 00:33:38,600
Kevin Spacey was on the trip as
well.

639
00:33:38,800 –> 00:33:42,100
So Chris Tucker is the meat in a
pedo sandwich.

640
00:33:42,400 –> 00:33:44,000
Yeah.
And Kevin space which is

641
00:33:44,000 –> 00:33:46,300
unfortunate.
But you know, Kevin Spacey

642
00:33:46,300 –> 00:33:50,800
didn’t need Jeffrey Epstein’s.
Abusing young boys like that.

643
00:33:50,800 –> 00:33:54,500
It’s still like that and Bill
Clinton was on there too and I

644
00:33:54,508 –> 00:33:57,100
don’t trust that Bill Clinton
isn’t having sex with underage

645
00:33:57,100 –> 00:34:00,900
girls but according to all of
the witnesses, they had on

646
00:34:00,900 –> 00:34:04,400
camera for this, for these
pieces, they claim that Bill

647
00:34:04,400 –> 00:34:08,000
Clinton was on the island, was
on the Lolita Express, but that

648
00:34:08,000 –> 00:34:10,100
they never saw him.
They never saw him doing

649
00:34:10,100 –> 00:34:11,600
anything.
But what does that mean?

650
00:34:11,699 –> 00:34:13,800
Well, we don’t know.
Yeah, what’s he going to do like

651
00:34:13,800 –> 00:34:16,100
have sex with an underage girl
on a tennis court?

652
00:34:16,100 –> 00:34:18,000
Like I’m assuming that would be
done.

653
00:34:18,100 –> 00:34:22,000
Done in Pride, prince, Andrew.
Yeah, like just the fact that

654
00:34:22,000 –> 00:34:26,300
you’re on, like, a specially by
that point because the, the

655
00:34:26,300 –> 00:34:29,300
point, where a lot of these
people end up at Jeffrey

656
00:34:29,300 –> 00:34:33,199
Epstein’s Island, which again,
Chris Tucker was not on Jeffrey

657
00:34:33,199 –> 00:34:36,000
Epstein Thailand.
This is well, after he’s been

658
00:34:36,100 –> 00:34:40,900
arrested for all of the stuff in
Palm Beach, right?

659
00:34:41,100 –> 00:34:44,199
There’s a woman who is also a
promoter for film companies.

660
00:34:44,199 –> 00:34:46,699
I’m sorry I’m blanking on her
name right now but she got in

661
00:34:46,699 –> 00:34:49,800
pretty big trouble because Sam.
So after I’ve seen gets out of

662
00:34:49,800 –> 00:34:53,100
prison, she arranged all these
social events for him and she

663
00:34:53,100 –> 00:34:55,500
would tell people Prince
Andrew’s going to be there but

664
00:34:55,500 –> 00:34:56,600
she wouldn’t tell them that
Jeffrey.

665
00:34:56,600 –> 00:34:59,000
Epstein is going to be there.
So she would invite all these,

666
00:34:59,000 –> 00:35:02,100
you know, actors and people who
are into philanthropy or wanted

667
00:35:02,100 –> 00:35:05,100
to meet prince Andrew to events
and then Jeffrey Epstein would

668
00:35:05,100 –> 00:35:07,200
be there.
And so they look really awful

669
00:35:07,200 –> 00:35:09,000
now.
But they really had no way of

670
00:35:09,000 –> 00:35:10,800
knowing.
Yeah, and fired from met

671
00:35:10,808 –> 00:35:13,000
representing major media
companies like she was working

672
00:35:13,000 –> 00:35:15,700
with a few film companies.
Do we PR for them and promotions

673
00:35:15,700 –> 00:35:17,900
and they’re like, yeah, you
know, you work with that.

674
00:35:17,900 –> 00:35:20,000
You Work with that stink too
much and for too long.

675
00:35:20,000 –> 00:35:23,800
So it’s about Association now.
Yeah, I find prince Andrew

676
00:35:23,800 –> 00:35:28,800
really interesting.
I do believe that he had sex

677
00:35:28,800 –> 00:35:34,400
with Virginia Roberts when she
was only 17, but like one of the

678
00:35:34,400 –> 00:35:38,600
theories that has been tossed
around about Jeffrey Epstein, is

679
00:35:38,600 –> 00:35:43,200
that he was blackmailing people
on behalf of some intelligence

680
00:35:43,200 –> 00:35:47,400
organization, like no one has
ever really specified, whether

681
00:35:47,400 –> 00:35:51,200
that would be the United States,
Russia, Israel, who knows?

682
00:35:51,300 –> 00:35:57,000
And the thing about prince,
Andrew, his defense is because

683
00:35:57,000 –> 00:35:59,500
Virginia Roberts has described
their encounter.

684
00:35:59,600 –> 00:36:04,700
And she always says, that prince
Andrew was very sweaty, like,

685
00:36:04,700 –> 00:36:09,100
just drenched in sweat and his
argument is okay.

686
00:36:09,100 –> 00:36:13,300
Well, I had a medical condition
at the time and I did not sweat,

687
00:36:13,300 –> 00:36:16,500
like I could not sweat due to
medical reasons.

688
00:36:16,500 –> 00:36:20,900
So what the fuck is that about?
Out, I think prince Andrew

689
00:36:21,000 –> 00:36:25,400
wasn’t drugged, but probably
took some drugs and that

690
00:36:25,400 –> 00:36:28,800
explains the sweating, that
would explain what loosened him

691
00:36:28,800 –> 00:36:32,500
up enough to decide fucking a 17
year old was a good idea.

692
00:36:32,600 –> 00:36:35,200
And then I think, at some point
they came to him and we’re like,

693
00:36:35,500 –> 00:36:39,200
all right, we got you on tape
having sex with this 17 year old

694
00:36:39,300 –> 00:36:41,300
and I feel like he might have
been like, all right?

695
00:36:41,300 –> 00:36:43,400
Put that tape out, then, explain
why you have it?

696
00:36:43,400 –> 00:36:47,100
Like what’s your, what’s your
reasoning for doing this?

697
00:36:47,200 –> 00:36:52,200
Because that Is going to become
a question whenever like people

698
00:36:52,200 –> 00:36:56,400
are waiting for this Treasure
Trove of tapes to come out and

699
00:36:56,400 –> 00:36:59,000
expecting that all of these
prominent figures are going to

700
00:36:59,000 –> 00:37:02,500
fall as a result, but even if
that happens, there’s still

701
00:37:02,500 –> 00:37:06,900
another question there which is
why was this happening?

702
00:37:06,900 –> 00:37:11,600
Is it just that everyone
involved is a pedophile?

703
00:37:11,700 –> 00:37:13,300
And they like having sex with
kids?

704
00:37:13,400 –> 00:37:16,100
Yes.
Probably but also was there

705
00:37:16,800 –> 00:37:20,800
something behind Behind this
effort to accumulate all of this

706
00:37:20,800 –> 00:37:25,900
information on powerful people
and if so who and why it’s did a

707
00:37:25,900 –> 00:37:28,600
theory about him.
Just being drugged the property

708
00:37:28,600 –> 00:37:30,400
manager at st.
Thomas also said that he saw

709
00:37:30,400 –> 00:37:32,700
prince Andrew with that girl on
the property and that she was

710
00:37:32,700 –> 00:37:34,800
topless and he was behind her
grinding on her.

711
00:37:34,900 –> 00:37:38,200
Yeah, I mean so, I mean, I think
prince Andrew, no, I don’t mean,

712
00:37:38,200 –> 00:37:40,500
I don’t mean he was roofied.
Oh no.

713
00:37:48,100 –> 00:37:50,900
Stayed friends with him.
Ya know, I could see him like

714
00:37:51,200 –> 00:37:54,900
taking a bunch of fucking Molly.
And yeah, like then you’re not

715
00:37:54,900 –> 00:37:57,500
drugged you just took drugs,
right?

716
00:37:57,500 –> 00:37:58,100
Right.
Okay.

717
00:37:58,400 –> 00:38:00,700
Yeah, sorry.
So with the black book thing

718
00:38:00,700 –> 00:38:04,700
like as a good point but I
mentioned that Epstein’s Butler

719
00:38:04,800 –> 00:38:09,500
was this guy afraid of Rodriguez
and he refused to turn over the

720
00:38:09,500 –> 00:38:13,000
book that he had.
He had so he’d stolen Epstein

721
00:38:13,000 –> 00:38:15,500
book, Black Book, his address
book, see a little black books,

722
00:38:15,500 –> 00:38:17,700
makes it seem like it’s like all
his mother’s but it’s more like

723
00:38:17,700 –> 00:38:19,100
Justin.
Address book, right?

724
00:38:19,300 –> 00:38:22,600
So he attempted to sell it for
over thirty thousand pounds.

725
00:38:22,600 –> 00:38:26,600
And he’s claimed that he needed
this book as insurance against

726
00:38:26,600 –> 00:38:29,000
the businessman because he
wanted to protect his own life

727
00:38:29,100 –> 00:38:32,800
and he was married and he told
his widow Patricia done.

728
00:38:32,800 –> 00:38:33,500
Sorry.
He’s dead.

729
00:38:33,500 –> 00:38:37,100
Spoiler that he knew all about
prince Andrew and he had all of

730
00:38:37,107 –> 00:38:40,500
his info that was contained
within this book to and

731
00:38:40,600 –> 00:38:44,600
Rodriguez, did go to jail for,
you know, not turning over the

732
00:38:44,600 –> 00:38:47,800
evidence and attempting to sell
it and he died at the age of 60.

733
00:38:48,100 –> 00:38:50,100
Mesothelioma.
Hmm.

734
00:38:50,100 –> 00:38:53,700
Yeah this was in 2015.
So this is before Epstein got

735
00:38:53,900 –> 00:38:55,400
you know, arrested a second
time.

736
00:38:55,400 –> 00:38:58,200
So he was like 60 and has
mesothelioma, which is a very

737
00:38:58,200 –> 00:39:02,000
particular kind of cancer.
Not very common and kills you

738
00:39:02,008 –> 00:39:05,800
really fast.
Yeah, it’s I don’t know,

739
00:39:05,900 –> 00:39:09,500
whenever there’s a bunch of
weird deaths around the story.

740
00:39:09,700 –> 00:39:14,100
I’m always in right away.
Like, I, I never have any doubt

741
00:39:14,100 –> 00:39:17,000
that when stuff like that
happens, people are being

742
00:39:17,000 –> 00:39:20,700
targeted and Murdered to keep
them silent, even if they

743
00:39:20,700 –> 00:39:24,100
fucking died of cancer, right?
And he’s housekeeper sound, very

744
00:39:24,100 –> 00:39:25,700
scared.
When they’re being interviewed

745
00:39:25,700 –> 00:39:27,500
by the police, and stop asked
about Epstein.

746
00:39:27,500 –> 00:39:30,600
And what he’s doing, the people
who work for him, they seem very

747
00:39:30,600 –> 00:39:33,400
frightened and like, they really
don’t want to say anything at

748
00:39:33,400 –> 00:39:36,500
all that could implicate him.
And one of the victims makes a

749
00:39:36,508 –> 00:39:40,000
great point which is that all of
the people, you know, the

750
00:39:40,000 –> 00:39:41,200
governor of st.
Thomas.

751
00:39:41,200 –> 00:39:43,500
All the people works at the
airport, they all saw all these

752
00:39:43,500 –> 00:39:46,700
children being moved or girls
that looked underage and none of

753
00:39:46,700 –> 00:39:48,600
them ever said anything or did.
Noun 1.

754
00:39:48,600 –> 00:39:50,800
Not a one.
Yeah, like the governor of st.

755
00:39:50,800 –> 00:39:54,300
Thomas, definitely knew who he
was and they had a relationship

756
00:39:54,300 –> 00:39:56,800
and the governor say, Thomas,
I’m sorry, but I don’t have his

757
00:39:56,800 –> 00:39:59,800
name on him and his wife worked
on a board for one of Epstein’s

758
00:39:59,800 –> 00:40:02,700
companies.
Yeah, it’s crazy that the

759
00:40:02,700 –> 00:40:06,800
governor being so friendly with
Jeffrey Epstein and welcoming

760
00:40:06,800 –> 00:40:10,500
him with open arms, didn’t
really seem to bother anyone

761
00:40:10,500 –> 00:40:15,300
there because it, if you compare
that to, we did a bonus episode.

762
00:40:15,300 –> 00:40:17,900
There’s a podcast on the network
called celebrity trash.

763
00:40:18,000 –> 00:40:21,800
Eric that I host with Carrie
Martin, and it’s about tragic,

764
00:40:21,800 –> 00:40:25,000
celebrities, and the first
season was about Anna, Nicole

765
00:40:25,000 –> 00:40:30,300
Smith, and one of our bonus
episodes is about the time she

766
00:40:30,300 –> 00:40:35,400
moved to the Bahamas and the
Uproar over her being able to

767
00:40:35,400 –> 00:40:38,300
just move to the Bahamas and
become a citizen.

768
00:40:38,300 –> 00:40:41,300
Even though that process
normally took, like, six months,

769
00:40:41,400 –> 00:40:45,000
it literally toppled the
government of the Bahamas.

770
00:40:45,000 –> 00:40:50,500
People were so fucking angry.
How they just let Anna Nicole

771
00:40:50,500 –> 00:40:53,900
Smith moved to the Bahamas and
become a resident that it

772
00:40:53,900 –> 00:40:57,100
fucking ended that an
Administration and they didn’t

773
00:40:57,100 –> 00:40:59,500
regain power for like another 12
years.

774
00:40:59,900 –> 00:41:03,600
Meanwhile, the government of st.
Thomas moves a pedophile in and

775
00:41:03,600 –> 00:41:06,900
people are like, or look what
happened with what’s-his-face

776
00:41:06,900 –> 00:41:10,800
with Belize McAfee, right?
How he was able to manipulate

777
00:41:10,800 –> 00:41:13,200
and control the government and,
you know, Police Department

778
00:41:13,200 –> 00:41:15,400
there.
So, it’s not unheard of but

779
00:41:16,000 –> 00:41:18,200
definitely won’t.
Once a person gets out, Out of

780
00:41:18,200 –> 00:41:22,600
prison prison who want to go
once Epstein changes offices.

781
00:41:23,100 –> 00:41:25,200
After being unfairly accused of
soliciting.

782
00:41:25,200 –> 00:41:28,400
Prostitutes.
Deadly mean, evil prostitutes?

783
00:41:28,400 –> 00:41:30,500
Yeah.
They even talk about the prison

784
00:41:30,500 –> 00:41:33,600
he was in, which was not a
prison, it was like a county

785
00:41:33,600 –> 00:41:37,500
Stockade.
And he had his entire own wing

786
00:41:37,800 –> 00:41:39,800
of the building is where he was
held.

787
00:41:39,800 –> 00:41:42,900
That nuts listeners, look around
your place wherever you’re

788
00:41:42,900 –> 00:41:45,200
living right now.
Jeffrey, Epstein was in prison

789
00:41:45,200 –> 00:41:47,200
somewhere.
Bigger, I guarantee you with

790
00:41:47,200 –> 00:41:51,200
better wi-fi, Yeah, they’re
cable better air conditioning.

791
00:41:51,300 –> 00:41:53,300
Jeffrey.
Epstein’s prison conditions,

792
00:41:53,300 –> 00:41:55,900
were way better than your
current living conditions.

793
00:41:56,000 –> 00:41:59,100
Yeah, exactly, everyone.
Listening to this, including me.

794
00:41:59,100 –> 00:42:02,600
I don’t care where you are.
Yeah, yeah, but way better deal,

795
00:42:03,300 –> 00:42:06,600
it would so the documentary or
both pieces kind of move on and

796
00:42:06,600 –> 00:42:08,800
they say, this is a point in
time where we’re talking about

797
00:42:08,800 –> 00:42:12,200
as women, who is an actress, a
shunt a Davis date.

798
00:42:12,200 –> 00:42:15,900
He’s sorry, and budding, massage
therapist actually does really

799
00:42:15,900 –> 00:42:18,500
want to be a masseuse.
And she gets Connected with

800
00:42:18,500 –> 00:42:21,500
Jeffrey Epstein gets a job with
him and naturally that does not

801
00:42:21,500 –> 00:42:25,700
bode well for her.
No she gets raped and her sister

802
00:42:25,700 –> 00:42:28,500
does also.
Which that is in.

803
00:42:28,700 –> 00:42:32,100
They hit on that a lot in this
part of the documentary that

804
00:42:32,100 –> 00:42:35,200
Jeffrey Epstein.
Wouldn’t just go after one girl.

805
00:42:35,200 –> 00:42:38,600
If he knew that girl had a
younger sister, he would go

806
00:42:38,600 –> 00:42:41,100
after her too and it they
describe it.

807
00:42:41,100 –> 00:42:44,600
I think it’s one of the victims
who describes it as people were

808
00:42:44,600 –> 00:42:47,900
like a sport to him like he just
wanted new face.

809
00:42:48,000 –> 00:42:52,100
Is every day, like he at one
point at at the Palm Beach

810
00:42:52,100 –> 00:42:56,600
residents was having
appointments with these girls at

811
00:42:56,600 –> 00:43:00,400
9 a.m. 12 p.m. and 4:00 p.m.
every day.

812
00:43:00,700 –> 00:43:04,100
That is insane, right?
It’s one of those things that

813
00:43:04,100 –> 00:43:07,900
kind of strange Catch-22 in
these instances because because

814
00:43:07,900 –> 00:43:10,600
there’s so many victims, I’m
sure he does start to forget

815
00:43:10,600 –> 00:43:12,400
them.
So then later has asked, what

816
00:43:12,400 –> 00:43:13,900
about this person?
He’s like, oh, I don’t even

817
00:43:13,900 –> 00:43:15,300
remember them.
I don’t even know if I’ve ever

818
00:43:15,300 –> 00:43:17,000
met them there.
Like, see, he doesn’t even know

819
00:43:17,000 –> 00:43:19,100
them and it’s like, no.
It’s because he’s fucking abuse

820
00:43:19,100 –> 00:43:20,700
so many people.
He doesn’t even remember

821
00:43:20,700 –> 00:43:22,400
anymore.
None of these people are

822
00:43:22,400 –> 00:43:23,900
interesting or particular to
him.

823
00:43:23,900 –> 00:43:26,700
Know, they probably stand out in
his memory unless maybe they

824
00:43:26,700 –> 00:43:29,600
refused him at some point.
But, no, he has no memory for

825
00:43:29,600 –> 00:43:31,600
just the sheer numbers.
It’s just a body count.

826
00:43:31,600 –> 00:43:33,900
He’s a vampire and they
constantly are seeking new

827
00:43:33,900 –> 00:43:35,900
blood.
It’s one of those interesting

828
00:43:35,900 –> 00:43:37,900
thing that’s always brought up
when they talk about the pizza

829
00:43:37,900 –> 00:43:41,800
gets stuffy or wanting
adrenochrome is that a lot of

830
00:43:41,800 –> 00:43:44,600
these accusations of pedophile
conspiracies and up with their

831
00:43:44,600 –> 00:43:47,200
actually drinking kids lives and
it’s bizarre to me because Peter

832
00:43:47,200 –> 00:43:51,100
Thiel He’s a billionaire.
He who founded the Hulk Hogan

833
00:43:51,100 –> 00:43:54,000
case against Gawker.
He actually does take the blood

834
00:43:54,000 –> 00:43:56,700
of a college-aged boy and
injected into himself.

835
00:43:56,700 –> 00:43:59,800
He actually does live off the
blood of kids, what?

836
00:43:59,900 –> 00:44:02,100
And he’s admitted it.
Yes, he injects himself.

837
00:44:02,100 –> 00:44:05,400
He gets transfusions of a
college students, blood Peter

838
00:44:05,400 –> 00:44:07,400
tail.
He’s a vampire like a literally

839
00:44:07,400 –> 00:44:11,400
a vampire.
Yeah, Peter teal is one of those

840
00:44:11,400 –> 00:44:15,100
people that of everyone.
He’s one that I’m very nervous

841
00:44:15,100 –> 00:44:17,800
about shit talking just because
of what he did to go.

842
00:44:17,900 –> 00:44:20,200
Walker.
It’s no, yeah, crazy, right.

843
00:44:20,200 –> 00:44:21,800
And are we?
You can cut this up.

844
00:44:23,500 –> 00:44:25,500
It’s not that serious, but it
does.

845
00:44:25,600 –> 00:44:29,200
It does really like that.
Vampire metaphor is almost not a

846
00:44:29,200 –> 00:44:32,500
metaphor when you see people.
Sometimes that there, it’s just.

847
00:44:32,500 –> 00:44:35,500
Where does the faction fiction?
Begin and end, I can’t even tell

848
00:44:35,500 –> 00:44:38,100
you, but yeah, they were
described as being very vampiric

849
00:44:38,100 –> 00:44:41,600
like and they’re also say that
Glenn Maxwell had all the photos

850
00:44:41,600 –> 00:44:43,900
of all these girls on her
computers to and those have

851
00:44:43,900 –> 00:44:46,600
never been found or never been
searched through but she was

852
00:44:46,600 –> 00:44:49,700
just as horse.
About getting new blood, getting

853
00:44:49,700 –> 00:44:51,500
new girls, call them the new
biles.

854
00:44:51,500 –> 00:44:53,000
Just like, we need to get them.
We need to get them.

855
00:44:53,000 –> 00:44:55,100
We need to get them.
So that’s why they’re always

856
00:44:55,100 –> 00:44:57,900
going after the younger sisters
are always trying to do the most

857
00:44:57,900 –> 00:45:00,600
to degrade you and use you as a
means to an end.

858
00:45:00,600 –> 00:45:04,400
Yeah.
And just the sheer number of

859
00:45:04,400 –> 00:45:10,200
victims here, like we’ve heard
from what like 712 something

860
00:45:10,200 –> 00:45:12,700
like that.
That like if you do the math

861
00:45:12,700 –> 00:45:17,000
that covers like a week’s worth
of girls, there’s so many more

862
00:45:17,000 –> 00:45:19,700
still out there.
There and it’s like are they out

863
00:45:19,700 –> 00:45:22,400
there or did some of them get
murdered?

864
00:45:22,400 –> 00:45:25,800
Like I was trying to find that
and it’s honestly it’s hard to

865
00:45:25,808 –> 00:45:28,600
find any information about
whether any accusers are now

866
00:45:28,600 –> 00:45:29,900
dead.
We do really, don’t know.

867
00:45:30,000 –> 00:45:32,500
But then we have other things
that are brought up in sort of

868
00:45:32,500 –> 00:45:37,000
dropped which are them asking
abstain about a friend bringing

869
00:45:37,000 –> 00:45:40,000
him three twelve year old French
girls who don’t speak English

870
00:45:40,000 –> 00:45:41,800
for his.
What 60th birthday believe?

871
00:45:42,000 –> 00:45:45,300
Yeah, I think that comes up in
the Netflix documentary.

872
00:45:45,600 –> 00:45:47,800
Oh yeah, it’s one of those
pieces of information.

873
00:45:48,100 –> 00:45:50,900
So these are just, the kids were
talking that in America, but

874
00:45:50,900 –> 00:45:53,700
obviously is not a man who
limits his activities to the

875
00:45:53,707 –> 00:45:56,000
states.
So if we don’t even know about

876
00:45:56,000 –> 00:45:58,900
how many UK victims, there could
be, we don’t know how many of,

877
00:45:58,900 –> 00:46:00,500
you know, victims of France.
There could be.

878
00:46:00,900 –> 00:46:03,400
We haven’t really heard a lot
about how many kids were brought

879
00:46:03,400 –> 00:46:05,800
to the New Mexico Ranch about
whether or whether he preyed on

880
00:46:05,800 –> 00:46:07,600
kids, New Mexico.
We really have no way of

881
00:46:07,600 –> 00:46:08,700
knowing.
Yeah, right now.

882
00:46:08,700 –> 00:46:10,400
Anyway.
So and then the only people who

883
00:46:10,400 –> 00:46:12,600
are publishing stuff about this
when he’s in St.

884
00:46:12,600 –> 00:46:16,400
Thomas the Miami Herald help us,
his like a real, take down and

885
00:46:16,600 –> 00:46:19,800
gets back into the news.
You know, and later 2000s yet.

886
00:46:19,800 –> 00:46:22,200
If they hadn’t done that, what
would have happened?

887
00:46:22,200 –> 00:46:27,100
Yeah, the Miami Herald, I did an
episode of in broad daylight,

888
00:46:27,100 –> 00:46:31,600
which is my solo podcast about
Jeffrey, Epstein.

889
00:46:31,800 –> 00:46:34,200
Back around the time.
The Miami Herald started writing

890
00:46:34,200 –> 00:46:39,100
about it and we’ll link to it on
the website and in the show

891
00:46:39,100 –> 00:46:43,100
notes for this episode to, but
they’re reporting on Jeffrey.

892
00:46:43,100 –> 00:46:49,500
Epstein is fascinating and of
all the Memories that you can

893
00:46:49,500 –> 00:46:51,300
watch.
I think those Miami.

894
00:46:51,300 –> 00:46:55,400
Herald articles are still
probably the best means of

895
00:46:55,500 –> 00:46:59,900
understanding what happened with
Jeffrey Epstein, like they go

896
00:46:59,900 –> 00:47:05,100
into a lot of detail and it was
really effective reporting

897
00:47:05,100 –> 00:47:08,800
because it directly led to the
case being reopened and him

898
00:47:08,800 –> 00:47:12,800
being arrested again.
What I don’t understand is, why

899
00:47:12,800 –> 00:47:16,200
hasn’t delaying Maxwell been
arrested?

900
00:47:16,300 –> 00:47:18,400
Is it just that they can’t find?
Find her.

901
00:47:18,700 –> 00:47:22,000
It’s partially.
That one of the issues details

902
00:47:22,000 –> 00:47:26,400
about her case that I started
looking into was when there’s a

903
00:47:26,408 –> 00:47:29,100
question of.
Why wasn’t she investigated

904
00:47:29,100 –> 00:47:31,300
initially?
Or why wasn’t she arrested at

905
00:47:31,300 –> 00:47:34,100
the time that he was?
There is one particular

906
00:47:34,100 –> 00:47:37,000
detective?
Who said that, she who cleared

907
00:47:37,000 –> 00:47:39,200
her.
And his name was Joseph for

908
00:47:39,200 –> 00:47:42,300
carry in this guy.
Worked on the police department

909
00:47:42,300 –> 00:47:47,000
for 23 years in Palm Beach and
it’s interesting to his

910
00:47:47,000 –> 00:47:49,000
instance.
You left the police force after

911
00:47:49,000 –> 00:47:52,000
23 years.
So this is in 2013, he leaves

912
00:47:52,000 –> 00:47:54,000
the police force for being a
lie.

913
00:47:54,000 –> 00:47:58,300
Now reason you went to work with
one of his friends at Gold Coast

914
00:47:58,300 –> 00:48:00,700
Holdings, which is a local beer
distributor and he became the

915
00:48:00,700 –> 00:48:04,100
director of facilities that’s in
2013 and everyone.

916
00:48:04,100 –> 00:48:06,700
All the stories are about how
great a detective, he was about

917
00:48:06,700 –> 00:48:09,600
how everyone loved him.
Even though he his work

918
00:48:09,600 –> 00:48:14,300
basically, led to Glee, Maxwell
getting off but then in 2018, he

919
00:48:14,300 –> 00:48:17,700
dies of a mysterious illness.
Hmm.

920
00:48:17,900 –> 00:48:22,200
At the age of 50, completely
healthy police officer large

921
00:48:22,200 –> 00:48:24,300
guy.
Looks like a marine dead at 50

922
00:48:24,800 –> 00:48:28,100
from a brief illness and no
other information was released

923
00:48:28,100 –> 00:48:31,100
about his cause of death.
Yeah, that’s suspicious because

924
00:48:31,100 –> 00:48:35,000
I think she’s like, she’s the
most important piece to this

925
00:48:35,000 –> 00:48:40,300
story now because she was one
half of the duo that was doing

926
00:48:40,300 –> 00:48:46,100
this, it wasn’t just Jeffrey
Epstein and I wonder where her

927
00:48:46,100 –> 00:48:51,700
connections Trace back.
To and what kind of, I don’t

928
00:48:51,700 –> 00:48:54,500
know.
I just I I feel like we’re never

929
00:48:54,500 –> 00:48:58,500
going to know the actual truth
about this without hearing it

930
00:48:58,500 –> 00:49:01,800
from her.
Yeah, I agree it’s confusing to

931
00:49:01,800 –> 00:49:05,500
me or it’s a major sign of
something amiss with the fact

932
00:49:05,500 –> 00:49:09,400
that I didn’t learn about his
Butler or that police officer be

933
00:49:09,400 –> 00:49:11,800
dead from either documentary,
right Butler.

934
00:49:11,800 –> 00:49:15,000
I learned about the butler
learned about from a lawyer,

935
00:49:15,100 –> 00:49:17,200
legal legal eagle, which is
YouTube channel.

936
00:49:17,200 –> 00:49:19,700
Where a lawyer Goes over famous
legal cases and he mentioned the

937
00:49:19,707 –> 00:49:22,400
Butler and then I looked up that
Butler fan at he’s dead.

938
00:49:22,600 –> 00:49:24,900
And then with her carry, the
detective that cleared Maxwell,

939
00:49:24,900 –> 00:49:28,100
he’s never mentioned in either
documentary that he cleared her

940
00:49:28,100 –> 00:49:30,300
and they never mention that he’s
dead either.

941
00:49:30,300 –> 00:49:33,000
I to look him up in a separate
search and find out that he’s

942
00:49:33,000 –> 00:49:34,300
dead.
So these are two big death

943
00:49:34,300 –> 00:49:36,600
connect to the case that are in
neither documentary made about

944
00:49:36,600 –> 00:49:39,600
them.
Yeah and it makes me wonder like

945
00:49:39,600 –> 00:49:43,500
we’ve heard so many people
float, the idea that will

946
00:49:43,500 –> 00:49:47,200
Jeffrey Epstein was clearly
being protected like someone was

947
00:49:47,200 –> 00:49:49,000
looking out for His best
interest.

948
00:49:49,000 –> 00:49:52,000
Otherwise he would have been in
prison for his entire life.

949
00:49:52,000 –> 00:49:54,000
But is he the one that’s being
protected?

950
00:49:54,000 –> 00:49:56,800
Or is it July in Maxwell?
Who’s the one that’s being

951
00:49:56,800 –> 00:49:59,400
protected?
Because she hasn’t faced any

952
00:49:59,500 –> 00:50:04,200
repercussions from any of this.
Even when he got that

953
00:50:04,200 –> 00:50:08,600
sweetheart, plea deal, she got
immunity like all of his

954
00:50:08,600 –> 00:50:12,100
co-conspirators, got immunity,
and if you can go back and re

955
00:50:12,100 –> 00:50:15,500
arrest Jeffrey Epstein, then I
think that implies that, that

956
00:50:15,500 –> 00:50:17,200
plea deal is kind of off the
table.

957
00:50:17,200 –> 00:50:20,600
Now, And maybe you can go arrest
those co-conspirators to, but

958
00:50:20,600 –> 00:50:22,900
who can fucking?
I don’t think anyone can even

959
00:50:22,900 –> 00:50:26,600
find her now.
No, she is her whereabouts, are

960
00:50:26,600 –> 00:50:29,700
unknown and I have never heard
of.

961
00:50:29,700 –> 00:50:33,900
So being offered a deal that
extends to unnamed conspirators,

962
00:50:33,900 –> 00:50:37,500
know, it’s unheard of it isn’t
named conspirator.

963
00:50:37,500 –> 00:50:41,500
Absolutely unheard of the, the
big, the big thing about Glee

964
00:50:41,500 –> 00:50:45,500
Max, all besides having an
imbecilic spelling of her name.

965
00:50:46,100 –> 00:50:49,400
So, the thing that people point
Out as the very influential

966
00:50:49,400 –> 00:50:53,800
about, you know, her situation
is that her father was a major

967
00:50:53,800 –> 00:50:57,700
media bigger and a member of
Parliament, and a fraudster.

968
00:50:57,700 –> 00:51:00,600
So he just had this, you know,
big publishing Empire, the

969
00:51:00,600 –> 00:51:04,400
mirror group was with him and he
had escaped knocks Nazi

970
00:51:04,400 –> 00:51:06,800
occupation.
He was an orthodox Jew from to

971
00:51:06,800 –> 00:51:11,700
Bahia and he managed to become
citizens of the UK and he’s well

972
00:51:11,700 –> 00:51:14,800
known to have been as Fife and
Israelis five is what they say,

973
00:51:14,800 –> 00:51:15,800
right?
Yeah.

974
00:51:15,800 –> 00:51:17,700
See.
Now we’re getting somewhere.

975
00:51:17,800 –> 00:51:18,800
R.
Yeah.

976
00:51:19,300 –> 00:51:23,300
So he died though and that’s why
I climax will actually moved to

977
00:51:23,400 –> 00:51:26,900
New York in 1991 was like right
after her father’s, death around

978
00:51:26,900 –> 00:51:29,500
that time.
And so it looks like she traded

979
00:51:29,500 –> 00:51:32,700
in one creeper another because
this I is involved with a lot of

980
00:51:32,700 –> 00:51:38,100
shady undertaking, really but
also that like there’s your

981
00:51:38,200 –> 00:51:42,300
intelligence connection.
Like, it’s not impossible that

982
00:51:42,300 –> 00:51:45,600
if her dad was a spy, she might
be a spy as well.

983
00:51:45,800 –> 00:51:47,700
Yeah.
I mean his death was very

984
00:51:47,900 –> 00:51:52,400
Suspicious and that he was on a
boat and was like, found missing

985
00:51:52,500 –> 00:51:56,300
and his nude body was recovered
from the ocean and there’s no

986
00:51:56,300 –> 00:51:58,700
noticeable wounds on him.
And just they say that he was

987
00:51:58,700 –> 00:52:00,500
just a heart attack.
Combined with accidental

988
00:52:00,500 –> 00:52:03,400
drowning, no one dies
accidentally on a boat.

989
00:52:03,500 –> 00:52:07,800
Every boat death is a murder.
I believe that deep in my heart

990
00:52:07,900 –> 00:52:09,800
you can get into more about
particularly what he’s said to

991
00:52:09,808 –> 00:52:11,700
be doing.
But essentially is a Mossad

992
00:52:11,700 –> 00:52:14,100
agent who probably committed a
number of murders of cetera

993
00:52:14,100 –> 00:52:14,800
likes.
Yeah.

994
00:52:14,800 –> 00:52:17,600
So that’s install Pension funds
and everything like that.

995
00:52:17,800 –> 00:52:20,700
You know, typical evil mode,
media magnate stuff.

996
00:52:20,700 –> 00:52:23,500
And that’s, you know, that’s
really interesting.

997
00:52:23,600 –> 00:52:27,700
When you take it in context with
Jeffrey Epstein because there

998
00:52:27,700 –> 00:52:31,700
had to be like, there’s I guess
there doesn’t have to be, but

999
00:52:31,900 –> 00:52:35,300
the suggestion is still that he
was making his money by

1000
00:52:35,300 –> 00:52:38,500
blackmailing people.
And who was he Gathering?

1001
00:52:38,500 –> 00:52:41,500
All of this blackmail material
on behalf of?

1002
00:52:41,500 –> 00:52:46,200
Was it just for his own personal
gratification, or was it at the

1003
00:52:46,200 –> 00:52:49,000
direction of Intelligence
agency.

1004
00:52:49,100 –> 00:52:52,300
I think we need to know that
because I think that would be a

1005
00:52:52,300 –> 00:52:55,900
major intelligence agency
running a sex trafficking scheme

1006
00:52:56,600 –> 00:52:58,600
in order to get whatever they
want out of people.

1007
00:52:58,600 –> 00:53:02,200
And they’re just as guilty of
manipulating abusing children

1008
00:53:02,200 –> 00:53:05,000
then using the abuse of children
as a way to get information.

1009
00:53:05,000 –> 00:53:07,800
Out of people is a kind of evil.
I don’t even want to think about

1010
00:53:07,800 –> 00:53:10,100
but I would I would guess if I
would Hazard a guess.

1011
00:53:10,100 –> 00:53:12,700
I would say the claim axle is
being protected by the FBI, the

1012
00:53:12,700 –> 00:53:15,700
CIA a and the Mossad, possibly a
MI6.

1013
00:53:15,800 –> 00:53:17,600
So I think there’s at least
three governments involved.

1014
00:53:17,800 –> 00:53:20,200
And keeping her wherever the
fuck she is keeping her out of

1015
00:53:20,200 –> 00:53:22,100
jail.
Yeah, I would agree with that

1016
00:53:22,200 –> 00:53:24,900
and if it I mean everyone
listening to this you’re

1017
00:53:24,900 –> 00:53:26,800
listening to a conspiracy
podcast.

1018
00:53:26,800 –> 00:53:29,300
So this won’t none of this
sounds crazy to you.

1019
00:53:29,300 –> 00:53:33,000
But just on the off-chance like
I know for the government to be

1020
00:53:33,000 –> 00:53:37,000
involved in something like this
sounds really insane but keep in

1021
00:53:37,000 –> 00:53:42,900
mind, we have documented proof
that the CIA in the 1960s, not

1022
00:53:42,900 –> 00:53:46,900
only ran brothels in San
Francisco, but what they would

1023
00:53:46,900 –> 00:53:50,900
do with those bras All’s is
invite really influential and

1024
00:53:50,900 –> 00:53:55,000
powerful people there, slip them
LSD and then just kind of watch

1025
00:53:55,000 –> 00:53:57,200
what they would do.
Like watch what happens when you

1026
00:53:57,200 –> 00:54:00,400
send prostitutes in and see how
it works.

1027
00:54:00,400 –> 00:54:05,000
And like you know when these
powerful people landed in San

1028
00:54:05,000 –> 00:54:08,500
Francisco it’s not like someone
ran up to him and was like, hey

1029
00:54:08,500 –> 00:54:11,100
you want to go to this really
great CIA spot around the

1030
00:54:11,100 –> 00:54:13,200
corner.
I know the CIA runs this really

1031
00:54:13,200 –> 00:54:15,200
cool.
Black brothels got big CIA,

1032
00:54:15,200 –> 00:54:17,600
sign, your go check that out.
No, they won’t.

1033
00:54:17,700 –> 00:54:21,000
I lied to you about who was
running that fucking operation

1034
00:54:21,000 –> 00:54:23,300
and I feel like the same thing
was happening with Jeffrey

1035
00:54:23,300 –> 00:54:24,900
Epstein.
They were like, oh I’m just

1036
00:54:24,900 –> 00:54:26,600
going to hang out with a
pedophile.

1037
00:54:26,600 –> 00:54:29,700
No, you’re hanging out with a
government-controlled pedophile.

1038
00:54:29,700 –> 00:54:31,700
Mmm, is more what it seemed
like.

1039
00:54:32,000 –> 00:54:33,600
Yeah, I mean we had talked about
a little bit too.

1040
00:54:33,600 –> 00:54:36,400
There’s other odd details about
his case.

1041
00:54:36,800 –> 00:54:38,700
That don’t really add up about
why things are positioned the

1042
00:54:38,707 –> 00:54:40,500
way they are, you guys
mentioning that.

1043
00:54:40,600 –> 00:54:44,400
So when Epstein was found dead
in his cell, previous to that he

1044
00:54:44,400 –> 00:54:49,100
had a cellmate when he was on
suicide watch Epstein claim of

1045
00:54:49,100 –> 00:54:51,900
the sky, beat him up, which this
do denies.

1046
00:54:51,900 –> 00:54:55,400
So the guy in question is
Nicholas, Turturro baglioni, and

1047
00:54:55,400 –> 00:54:59,500
he’s a former New York City
police officer, and he is facing

1048
00:54:59,500 –> 00:55:01,200
the death penalty, would be the
first time.

1049
00:55:01,200 –> 00:55:03,200
Someone’s face the death penalty
in the state of New York since

1050
00:55:03,200 –> 00:55:06,600
the rosenbergs in 1953.
And so in December 2016, this

1051
00:55:06,600 –> 00:55:10,000
guy her taglioni he had already
left the Briarcliff Police

1052
00:55:10,000 –> 00:55:11,700
Department.
He was arrested and accused of

1053
00:55:11,700 –> 00:55:15,300
killing four men weren’t Luna,
Miguel, Luna or Bono Santiago,

1054
00:55:15,300 –> 00:55:17,800
and Hector Gutierrez.
Part of a cocaine conspiracy All

1055
00:55:18,000 –> 00:55:20,600
the victims were found in Black
part of the property that he was

1056
00:55:20,600 –> 00:55:23,900
rent in the past, and it was
just a bad coke deal and he

1057
00:55:23,900 –> 00:55:27,500
killed four men over 5 pounds,
but it’s just it’s very it’s

1058
00:55:27,500 –> 00:55:31,800
very telling to me that they
chose as a you know someone

1059
00:55:31,800 –> 00:55:34,900
would to put with Epstein who is
already has a death sentence on

1060
00:55:34,900 –> 00:55:37,200
their head.
Essentially it is a former cop.

1061
00:55:37,200 –> 00:55:38,700
What does that mean?
Does that mean anything?

1062
00:55:38,700 –> 00:55:42,100
Yeah, I mean it kind of points
to the idea that maybe they were

1063
00:55:42,100 –> 00:55:44,100
trying to get him killed.
Yeah.

1064
00:55:44,100 –> 00:55:45,900
Yeah.
It’s a very it’s very bizarre to

1065
00:55:45,900 –> 00:55:47,600
me, I don’t know.
There’s just layers in here.

1066
00:55:47,800 –> 00:55:49,900
Don’t add up for the people
involved and, you know, we

1067
00:55:49,900 –> 00:55:53,400
mentioned a cost earlier, but
Acosta did resign his post.

1068
00:55:54,000 –> 00:55:59,500
So Epstein was arrested in July
and then six days later a cost

1069
00:55:59,500 –> 00:56:00,900
of resigned.
But man.

1070
00:56:01,300 –> 00:56:02,800
Yeah, I got that quote, from
Trump.

1071
00:56:02,800 –> 00:56:04,700
Did you love that?
That tweet from Trump when he

1072
00:56:04,707 –> 00:56:08,500
resigned, which one was that?
Alex Acosta for me this morning

1073
00:56:08,500 –> 00:56:11,100
that he felt the constant
drumbeat of press about a

1074
00:56:11,100 –> 00:56:14,200
prosecution which took place
under his watch more than 12

1075
00:56:14,200 –> 00:56:17,200
years ago, was bad for the
administration, which he so

1076
00:56:17,200 –> 00:56:19,400
strong.
He believes in and he graciously

1077
00:56:19,400 –> 00:56:23,600
tendered his resignation, my
God, Trump is such a fucking

1078
00:56:23,600 –> 00:56:28,600
problem.
Oh, Jesus, yeah, more than 12

1079
00:56:28,600 –> 00:56:29,500
years ago.
Hey guys.

1080
00:56:29,500 –> 00:56:32,000
The kid rape occurred.
It’s 12 12 years ago.

1081
00:56:32,000 –> 00:56:35,300
That girls are you 20s now?
Why is she over it?

1082
00:56:35,900 –> 00:56:37,900
Exactly.
Hey, something that happened

1083
00:56:38,000 –> 00:56:40,900
under his watch, it wasn’t under
his watch.

1084
00:56:40,900 –> 00:56:44,400
He did it in the sense that you
watch things that you actually

1085
00:56:44,400 –> 00:56:45,800
do.
Yeah.

1086
00:56:45,800 –> 00:56:47,000
Yeah.
This didn’t happen.

1087
00:56:47,000 –> 00:56:50,000
Self do.
It under Alex acosta’s.

1088
00:56:50,000 –> 00:56:51,800
Watch he fucking.
Hey, what are you guys doing

1089
00:56:51,800 –> 00:56:53,500
right now?
Pedophiles looks good.

1090
00:56:54,200 –> 00:56:57,300
And there’s in the both
documentaries, there’s all of

1091
00:56:57,300 –> 00:57:01,300
these emails between Jeffrey
Epstein’s lawyers and the

1092
00:57:01,308 –> 00:57:04,700
prosecutors in Florida where
they’re basically just being

1093
00:57:04,700 –> 00:57:07,800
like, well do you think he’ll
accept this charge and his

1094
00:57:07,800 –> 00:57:11,100
lawyers will just write back and
be like, no, try again.

1095
00:57:11,200 –> 00:57:13,300
And they finally fauna who’s the
woman?

1096
00:57:13,300 –> 00:57:15,200
They mentioned a woman to Maria.
Maria.

1097
00:57:15,200 –> 00:57:18,500
Something the father-son thing.
Who she worked.

1098
00:57:18,700 –> 00:57:20,300
She was working in the office
and she signed all these

1099
00:57:20,300 –> 00:57:21,600
victims.
Hey, you know, you know, we’re

1100
00:57:21,600 –> 00:57:23,800
going to put him away for life
and then turned out that she was

1101
00:57:23,800 –> 00:57:27,700
also writing emails to Epstein’s
team honor, free time and

1102
00:57:27,700 –> 00:57:31,100
offering to make any sort of
necessary edits that they wanted

1103
00:57:31,100 –> 00:57:33,800
to the document right to appease
them.

1104
00:57:33,800 –> 00:57:38,300
Yeah, so this Jeffrey Epstein
was clearly, a very powerful

1105
00:57:38,300 –> 00:57:42,600
person who had some very
powerful connections and we

1106
00:57:42,600 –> 00:57:44,300
still got to find those
connections.

1107
00:57:44,500 –> 00:57:47,600
Like this, that to me is the
most important.

1108
00:57:47,700 –> 00:57:52,500
He’ll now like we know what
Jeffrey Epstein did the victims

1109
00:57:52,500 –> 00:57:57,000
have been heard which is good.
Those victims have not received

1110
00:57:57,000 –> 00:58:01,300
justice of any sort.
I would argue like Jeffrey.

1111
00:58:01,300 –> 00:58:03,200
Like I don’t even know if
Jeffrey Epstein is really

1112
00:58:03,200 –> 00:58:06,700
fucking dead.
Like it wouldn’t like if you can

1113
00:58:06,700 –> 00:58:10,900
get into a prison to murder him
you can get into prison to

1114
00:58:10,900 –> 00:58:14,000
fucking get him out of there.
Like I did take the picture of

1115
00:58:14,000 –> 00:58:16,300
his dead body.
Even the pictures of his dead

1116
00:58:16,300 –> 00:58:19,700
body are It’s not alive,
laughing about that but I was

1117
00:58:19,700 –> 00:58:20,800
like, oh God.
It’s him.

1118
00:58:21,300 –> 00:58:23,500
It’s a dead body.
He had bruises all over his back

1119
00:58:23,500 –> 00:58:26,600
was very weird.
He also, I haven’t looked into

1120
00:58:26,600 –> 00:58:31,400
this photo that much to find out
if it’s doctored.

1121
00:58:31,400 –> 00:58:34,700
If someone can send me proof
that it is, I’m all for it.

1122
00:58:34,700 –> 00:58:38,100
But in the photo where he’s
being carried out of prison on a

1123
00:58:38,107 –> 00:58:41,300
stretcher for one thing.
For some reason, his face isn’t

1124
00:58:41,300 –> 00:58:46,000
covered and from his side
profile, the person on that

1125
00:58:46,000 –> 00:58:51,400
stretcher has a really Are bump
on their nose in Jeffrey.

1126
00:58:51,400 –> 00:58:54,800
Epstein does not have that bump
on his nose.

1127
00:58:55,000 –> 00:58:59,500
Now that could be the result of
an injury that happened during

1128
00:58:59,500 –> 00:59:04,500
his death, but it is weird.
And like, I don’t know, like, I

1129
00:59:04,500 –> 00:59:08,600
know we seen pictures of the
body, but didn’t we see pictures

1130
00:59:08,600 –> 00:59:12,200
of Elvis’s body, too?
And he clearly fled to Argentina

1131
00:59:12,200 –> 00:59:14,200
and entered the witness
protection program.

1132
00:59:14,400 –> 00:59:17,400
I believe that so hard.
You went into a little

1133
00:59:17,600 –> 00:59:22,200
Submarine.
But the point about the death

1134
00:59:22,200 –> 00:59:25,500
investigation of him with from
the prison and everything is his

1135
00:59:25,500 –> 00:59:28,300
brother, Robert Epstein.
I forgot his brother Epstein,

1136
00:59:28,300 –> 00:59:31,000
brother ordered private
investigation and they found

1137
00:59:31,100 –> 00:59:34,200
that there were bones broken in
his neck which you probably

1138
00:59:34,200 –> 00:59:37,100
couldn’t break on your own
through suicide by hanging and

1139
00:59:37,100 –> 00:59:39,600
they found that to be very
inclusive is more, you know, in

1140
00:59:39,600 –> 00:59:41,200
line with someone being choked
to death.

1141
00:59:41,300 –> 00:59:45,700
And what’s that to me to is that
the two guards, in his case, we

1142
00:59:45,700 –> 00:59:48,100
have not gotten any update about
what’s With them.

1143
00:59:48,200 –> 00:59:50,100
Nothing else has come out in the
news about what’s going on with

1144
00:59:50,100 –> 00:59:51,100
their cases.
Yeah.

1145
00:59:51,100 –> 00:59:52,800
Because they were both arrested,
right?

1146
00:59:52,900 –> 00:59:54,300
Yes.
And it’s an African American

1147
00:59:54,300 –> 00:59:56,800
woman and man.
Mmm, so he’s in it.

1148
00:59:56,800 –> 00:59:58,800
Funny that in this whole
Scandal, the two people are

1149
00:59:58,800 –> 01:00:01,300
probably gonna face the most
jail time are going to be afraid

1150
01:00:01,300 –> 01:00:04,800
of Rodriguez his you know,
Hispanic housekeeper, who

1151
01:00:04,800 –> 01:00:07,700
wouldn’t give aways black book
and then to Black prison guards.

1152
01:00:07,700 –> 01:00:10,600
Yeah, that sounds about about
right, American for this

1153
01:00:10,600 –> 01:00:12,400
country.
That’s thats a very American

1154
01:00:12,400 –> 01:00:14,600
ending to this story.
My God.

1155
01:00:14,900 –> 01:00:16,900
Yeah, I’m but there’s been no
real updates about where clay

1156
01:00:16,900 –> 01:00:18,900
Maxwell is.
Or what the pursuit of her is.

1157
01:00:18,900 –> 01:00:20,700
Do we see any one of the news
being the caves?

1158
01:00:20,700 –> 01:00:23,100
What we’re doing to work on
this, show your work, they never

1159
01:00:23,100 –> 01:00:25,200
show their work.
Yeah, I don’t know that anyone

1160
01:00:25,200 –> 01:00:27,100
cares.
Yeah, it seems like people

1161
01:00:27,100 –> 01:00:32,600
really don’t and that is a very
high-profile sexual predator.

1162
01:00:32,600 –> 01:00:37,800
Who is just still out there in
the world free and doing God

1163
01:00:37,800 –> 01:00:39,600
knows what?
Because it’s not just that she

1164
01:00:39,600 –> 01:00:42,300
was lining up girls for Jeffrey
Epstein.

1165
01:00:42,300 –> 01:00:45,500
She was molesting them.
Also molesting and raping these

1166
01:00:45,500 –> 01:00:47,800
girls.
Yeah, I mean it’s like it’s Like

1167
01:00:47,800 –> 01:00:50,700
if I were a super billionaire, I
would just if I were Jeff Bezos,

1168
01:00:50,700 –> 01:00:52,800
I would just hire a hit man to
kill her wherever she is.

1169
01:00:52,800 –> 01:00:55,600
Yeah, I mean it seems like
something a rich person could

1170
01:00:55,600 –> 01:00:57,800
get away with.
Yeah, just a suggestion.

1171
01:00:57,800 –> 01:01:00,100
Would make a good book, right?
Yeah.

1172
01:01:00,100 –> 01:01:02,600
It turns up dead.
I’m investigated by the FBI.

1173
01:01:03,200 –> 01:01:06,400
We’re both going to prison.
Oh my gosh.

1174
01:01:06,400 –> 01:01:08,900
But um yeah.
So the conclusion about this

1175
01:01:08,900 –> 01:01:11,800
case is, are we ever going to
get Donald Trump testify in

1176
01:01:11,800 –> 01:01:13,600
court about whether he raped a
thirteen-year-old?

1177
01:01:13,600 –> 01:01:16,400
I don’t think so.
Yeah, if you join Mac, you know,

1178
01:01:16,400 –> 01:01:19,500
hung up by your thumbs out.
I doubt it, I’m not very hopeful

1179
01:01:19,500 –> 01:01:21,400
about the Justice.
In this case, any justice

1180
01:01:21,400 –> 01:01:24,300
getting meted out to victims or
but, you know, you got to ask

1181
01:01:24,300 –> 01:01:26,400
yourself what’s going to happen
to Epstein’s, brother.

1182
01:01:26,400 –> 01:01:29,100
You know, what happens to all
absence properties, what happens

1183
01:01:29,100 –> 01:01:32,900
to, you know, less Wexner, and
all these, all these people who

1184
01:01:32,900 –> 01:01:35,000
don’t have the money.
Well, I can tell you about his

1185
01:01:35,000 –> 01:01:40,300
property, there is a website
called Epstein airs.com.

1186
01:01:40,400 –> 01:01:43,600
Where, if you believe you might
be the child of Jeffrey Epstein,

1187
01:01:43,600 –> 01:01:46,800
you can upload your information
and the people behind that

1188
01:01:46,800 –> 01:01:49,600
website.
Research it and if it turns out

1189
01:01:49,600 –> 01:01:52,900
that you have a valid claim,
they will petition the court on

1190
01:01:52,900 –> 01:01:56,000
your behalf and help you get
some of Jeffrey Epstein’s money

1191
01:01:56,100 –> 01:01:58,200
and old.
Yeah, yeah.

1192
01:01:58,200 –> 01:02:02,300
We I don’t remember what show we
talked about it on but the

1193
01:02:02,600 –> 01:02:07,000
website is still up I believe.
Let me chat.

1194
01:02:07,000 –> 01:02:13,400
Oh yeah, find your real dad at
Epstein a oh my God yeah it’s

1195
01:02:13,400 –> 01:02:16,800
Morse genealogical Services is
the company that runs the

1196
01:02:16,800 –> 01:02:17,700
website.
Right?

1197
01:02:17,700 –> 01:02:21,600
And they’re basically looking
for anyone who can prove.

1198
01:02:21,600 –> 01:02:25,300
They are The Offspring of
Jeffrey Epstein, so they can get

1199
01:02:25,300 –> 01:02:30,400
that person money, which feels
like a pretty noble cause to me.

1200
01:02:30,600 –> 01:02:32,600
Yeah, certainly does.
Holy shit.

1201
01:02:32,600 –> 01:02:35,000
But yeah, I can’t, it’s been a,
it’s been a hard week between

1202
01:02:35,000 –> 01:02:37,600
this and about 70 different
wrestlers, being accused of

1203
01:02:37,600 –> 01:02:40,300
sexual assault and abuse.
And you know, yeah.

1204
01:02:40,300 –> 01:02:43,000
Anything else happening in the
country, I could people in the

1205
01:02:43,300 –> 01:02:46,700
comedy community are being added
as Predators.

1206
01:02:47,200 –> 01:02:49,800
There’s going to War with China
and India.

1207
01:02:49,800 –> 01:02:54,200
John Bolton should be in prison.
The police are terrorists.

1208
01:02:54,400 –> 01:02:59,200
Please, sir, terrorists, a cab,
what a time to be alive.

1209
01:02:59,400 –> 01:03:01,100
I don’t know, man.
Yeah man.

1210
01:03:01,200 –> 01:03:03,500
Yeah, it’s a rough one.
I’m not, you know, I’m not I’m

1211
01:03:03,500 –> 01:03:05,800
not living my easygoing life,
you know.

1212
01:03:05,800 –> 01:03:07,700
So it affects it affects me, I
don’t know.

1213
01:03:07,700 –> 01:03:09,200
Does this affect you emotionally
at all?

1214
01:03:09,200 –> 01:03:12,200
Dude?
Watching this to it 100% doesn’t

1215
01:03:12,200 –> 01:03:15,000
it?
Not only affects me but with

1216
01:03:15,000 –> 01:03:19,600
running a podcast Network I have
to To like come up with a way to

1217
01:03:19,800 –> 01:03:24,300
respond and do something like
especially with police violence.

1218
01:03:24,300 –> 01:03:28,400
Like, it’s hard to like we did
an episode about the history of

1219
01:03:28,400 –> 01:03:32,200
the San Diego chicken last week.
It’s hard to like research and

1220
01:03:32,200 –> 01:03:35,900
record and release stuff like
that and feel like it matters at

1221
01:03:35,900 –> 01:03:37,800
all.
But I know people are still

1222
01:03:37,800 –> 01:03:40,700
listening.
So I want to like keep doing the

1223
01:03:40,700 –> 01:03:44,000
work we do, but you also don’t
want to be silent about stuff

1224
01:03:44,000 –> 01:03:47,400
like this and like I kind of
want to do more than talk.

1225
01:03:47,700 –> 01:03:50,300
And more than post on social
media about it.

1226
01:03:50,300 –> 01:03:53,700
So, it’s been a struggle.
Trying to figure out how to

1227
01:03:53,700 –> 01:03:57,400
respond and contribute as a
network.

1228
01:03:57,400 –> 01:03:59,000
I think I figured it out we’re
doing.

1229
01:03:59,000 –> 01:04:03,500
We’re, we’re giving up some of
our ad space and using that to

1230
01:04:03,500 –> 01:04:07,500
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1231
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And we’re donating, we just set
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1236
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1243
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So instead of us taking that and

1244
01:04:54,700 –> 01:04:59,000
spending it on candy and we’d
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1245
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01:05:16,800 –> 01:05:17,900
We feel terrible.
People.

1250
01:05:18,000 –> 01:05:21,000
Yeah, yeah, we feel awful.
My connections unstable.

1251
01:05:21,000 –> 01:05:23,900
My brain isn’t stable.
Only my hair looks good.

1252
01:05:23,900 –> 01:05:25,800
Your hair looks great looks
great.

1253
01:05:26,300 –> 01:05:29,200
What a day, what a week!
What a year?

1254
01:05:29,600 –> 01:05:32,800
It has been.
I know when people text me and

1255
01:05:32,800 –> 01:05:33,600
they’re like, hey, what’s going
on?

1256
01:05:33,600 –> 01:05:36,500
I’m like, well, some horrible
things are happening everywhere.

1257
01:05:36,600 –> 01:05:39,800
So I’m trying to process that
I’m to the point where I barely

1258
01:05:39,800 –> 01:05:43,900
even send text messages anymore.
I’m just so fucking cut off from

1259
01:05:43,900 –> 01:05:46,200
the world right?
Help in my own blood back words

1260
01:05:46,200 –> 01:05:50,000
that are mirrored.
It’s fun art.

1261
01:05:50,000 –> 01:05:52,500
It’s my art.
Yeah, well, all right.

1262
01:05:52,500 –> 01:05:54,900
We should probably have already
wrap this up.

1263
01:05:54,900 –> 01:05:56,600
Do you have anything to plug
Laura?

1264
01:05:56,900 –> 01:05:59,000
No, I might get a job.
I hope I do that.

1265
01:05:59,000 –> 01:06:01,800
So if you guys like Deus Ex
magic rituals like you jerk off

1266
01:06:01,800 –> 01:06:04,400
and look at sigils and stuff
like make one for me.

1267
01:06:04,400 –> 01:06:06,800
So I got a job or a husband
whatever you feel like

1268
01:06:07,200 –> 01:06:10,400
dreamcatcher make Laura dream
catcher, you can do it.

1269
01:06:10,400 –> 01:06:13,200
Um yeah just follow me Crawford
comic find me on the Twitter

1270
01:06:13,200 –> 01:06:16,000
Instagram and I loved it.
I love to talk I would not love

1271
01:06:16,000 –> 01:06:18,400
to talk to you on On social
media.

1272
01:06:18,400 –> 01:06:20,900
I barely use it anymore, but you
can follow the network.

1273
01:06:20,900 –> 01:06:24,900
A ton pops on Twitter or on pop
stop podcast on Instagram.

1274
01:06:25,000 –> 01:06:26,900
Maybe I’ll start using that more
often.

1275
01:06:26,900 –> 01:06:29,300
I don’t know.
Yeah, twitch, what’s twitch?

1276
01:06:29,400 –> 01:06:32,200
Yeah, come on, teach me.
It’s got the time.

1277
01:06:32,800 –> 01:06:35,200
All right, let’s get the fuck
out of here.

1278
01:06:35,200 –> 01:06:38,300
Laura Say Goodbye by Adam.
Thank you goodbye everybody.

1279
01:06:38,300 –> 01:06:38,800
We love you.