Conspiracy! The Show Who Killed Chandra Levy?

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Indiana.
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John Cougar Mellencamp and shit.
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I mean we gotta respect our Lord
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The COO Kyle.
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Springsteen of the Midwest, it
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Absolutely no shit.
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the big concert venue here in
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Oh, really?
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Center.
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whenever Mellencamp would be in
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plan, our lives around that
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just backed up all around this
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He deserves it, he does.
He’s he’s terrific.

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I love his music.
I’ve got I got nothing against

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him.
So we’re talking about the death

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of John Cougar, Mellencamp
today, obviously we’re getting

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into we’re really gonna get into
Dark history.

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Now we are actually talking
about The Disappearance of

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Chandra Levy.
The biggest news story of 2001

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for a while at least part of
2001.

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Yeah.
For about 10 days into

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September.
Tearin up.

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The deadlines are in Jurassic
Park 3 came out and that really

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right stole the spotlight.
Yeah.

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And that took all the attention
off Chandra leafy.

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Yeah, I landed on this topic.
The same way I landed on Nancy.

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A spungen that time, we did that
episode.

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Okay.
Yeah, I was at a loss for topics

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and I had Hulu open in front of
me.

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So I typed the words who killed
in the Hulu classic, there was a

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documentary, a couple years ago
apparently called who killed

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Chandra Levy and okay.
I actually thought this case was

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solved.
Yeah, I mean, again, it kind of

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slipped but the thing that I
remember is everyone kind of

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thought that it was Gary Condit
who did it?

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And then they kind of found this
other guy.

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Yeah.
This was huge news.

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There’s a Chris Rock special
from around the time where he

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has a bit about Chandra Levy.
Oh my God, it was fucking

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everywhere.
What?

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A time capsule that is yeah.
And the last I remembered they

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arrested someone and convicted
them for this crime and that was

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kind of the last I heard of it.
But it turns out that conviction

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didn’t stand and this is still
an unsolved murder.

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Yeah.
The Those are pretty wild.

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They really are for people who
aren’t familiar with the events

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of the case, or just to remind
people kind of the timeline of

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events on March or on May 6th
2001 robertlevi called the DC

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police department.
Second district station house

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after not hearing from his
daughter shaundra for five days

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in a row.
Her last correspondence was an

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email listing Southwest airlines
fares for her trip.

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Back home to California.
She was To have already arrived

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home by that point.
She’d been in d.c. for seven

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months.
Interning at the Bureau of

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Prisons, like some kind of
fucking cop, you know.

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I don’t want to I don’t want to
speak ill of the Dead.

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No it is kind of a cop.
It’s kind of a cop move.

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I can’t I can’t deny that.
It was 2000.

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Why is it different time?
It was a dare ya.

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Maybe she just hadn’t heard the
prison song from system of a

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Down’s first album maybe that A
the changed her mind, it was

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common, they came out around
that time but maybe didn’t have

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x 103 the Indie alternative to
guide her to that.

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So the case was picked up by
DC’s second district which the

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second district deals with the
rich neighborhoods in DC, right?

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They at one point in one of the
articles I read for this were

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described as squirrel Chasers,
because, yeah, There’s no actual

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crime happening, right?
They are.

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So they’re probably where police
Lord, that guy who sold cocaine

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to Republicans the night before.
George Bush, gave that speech

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and said, this is crack cocaine.
It’s like where’d you get it

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look into that story, America,
it’s very unsavory.

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So that’s always a bad sign.
When an inept Police Department,

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gets assigned a murder case,
right?

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Right.
Kind of a big case and they

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don’t really have anybody who’s
equipped to deal with the more

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delicate technical aspects that
kind of come up in this, modern

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homicide investigation or
missing persons, a situation

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like this is going to end one of
two ways either it’s going to be

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a movie or there’s going to be a
grave miscarriage of Justice or

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both.
Yeah well that’s a times one

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leads to the other.
Yeah, that’s true.

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Well when one leads to the other
it tends to be more of a

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documentary.
I guess.

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Yeah.
But you mean still got your like

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your Erin Brockovich has now.
Your insiders, meanwhile,

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Chandra, Levy parents, Robert
and Susan Levy had started

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scouring her phone records, and
they come across this number

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that she’s been calling a whole
bunch and it turns out to be

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California representative, Gary
Condit, right?

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Who represents their home
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In the Central Valley of
California they call It and he

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says, Chandra was a friend of
one of his interns and pledged

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to help in whatever way he could
and they suspected right away.

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He was lying.
Yeah, I mean it sounds like a

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lie.
If she was just a friend of an

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intern, why would she be calling
you?

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You could use that excuse for
like one phone call.

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Right?
Exactly.

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But this was dozens and dozens
and dozens of phone calls.

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Yeah, a pattern on May 8th shot.
Is Aunt Linda’s am ski called

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the lead investigator on the
case detective.

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Ralph Durant to tell him that
Chandra confided in her that

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she’d been having an affair with
Gary Condit damn.

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What did the ant not the not the
parents.

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Yeah, I wonder how the parents
felt about that after the fact,

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you know, I mean I get it kind
of a step removed, just a cool.

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Aunt.
Probably.

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Yeah.
Her name is Sam ski.

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Yeah.
If you need your love advice

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from the Girls am ski on May
10th police, finally, executed a

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search warrant on Chandra Levy’s
apartment and they make two

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really huge mistakes in the
early days of this

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investigation.
If you can believe that, yeah,

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shocker one, a DC police
Sergeant, who wasn’t a trained

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computer expert turned on her
computer to try to find her most

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recent search results.
What he ended up doing?

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Stead was corrupting those
search results so badly, that it

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would take another month to get
an accurate rundown of her

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computer activity that day.
Also, the building she lived in

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had multiple security cameras
which fed a tape.

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That was recorded over every
seven days by the time, police

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bothered to ask for it.
The tape had already been

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recorded over.
That is definitely a huge Miss.

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How did you miss the security
camera?

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Guys.
I feel like if this was a

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reality show where groups of
contestants were sent out into

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the field to solve a murder,
right?

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Every one of those groups First
Act would have been to go to her

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apartment and go.
You got surveillance tape.

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I’ve seen, I’ve just seen
movies.

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Yeah.
I kind of feel like, you know,

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there’s not real life but
apparently it is close enough.

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Yeah.
Turns out.

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They do have those cameras in
all sorts of buildings.

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Yeah.
And then the computer thing that

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is Like that feels very much
like old klutzy cops.

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In the early 2000s.
You don’t know shit about how to

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use a computer.
How did the corrupt their search

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results just by messing?
Like, 30 got the computer, like,

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I don’t know what he was doing
and feels like maybe he didn’t

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know what he was doing.
Yeah, I wonder if he was like

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typing things into like search
for them and thinking it was

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going to show him where the
circle.

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We may be but yeah, that ends up
being a huge huge mistake as it

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turns out.
And yeah, I can I don’t know how

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he did it but I can see it
happening with it being 2001, of

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course.
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And this guy he’s a sergeant.
So he’s probably been on the job

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for a long time.
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Like 30 years or something and
computers are going to be a

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thing that really became
mainstream like three or four

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years earlier.
Well, the internet at least,

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right?
So the internet definitely and

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personal computers.
I mean, you know, it still is

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happening like they although I
think there’s a little bit more

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of a plateau now, but they were
changing and growing so fast

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that if you weren’t training
people on how to interact with

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the newer models than they’re
used to, and they might have at

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home or whatever.
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They’re going to make these
kinds of mistakes.

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Yeah.
And as it turns out, if police

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It’s properly, searched the
computer, the first time around,

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what it would have shown.
Was that the last thing Chandra

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Levy did was search for things
to do in Rock Creek Park which

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is in Washington, d.c. right
which in turn would have made a

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great place to start that
investigation.

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Yeah turns out that is precisely
where her remains were found her

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skeletal Remains by that point,
talked about kind of like a

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movie like just the fact that
her last surgery She was so

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relevant to what in it where her
body was found of all things.

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Like, that’s wild.
And what blows me away is it

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took them sure.
It took them a month to find

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that information on the computer
because of this early mistake.

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But then, just go search Rock
Creek Park, right?

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And their excuse was, we
couldn’t send an entire police

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department just to look for one.
One girl and it’s like, have you

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ever watched a news report about
a kidnapped white woman?

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The community would have come
out in force to look for her.

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Yeah.
Even if he didn’t want to get

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civilians involved it feels like
if they’re like I don’t know.

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Why wouldn’t you get people out
to go look for like I don’t

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know.
It seems like it’s part of your

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job.
Yeah, it is too.

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It’s an investigation.
Go investigate.

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See if her body’s exactly, and
they did not do her remains.

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When they were finally found
were fucking found by accident.

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Someone just Stumbled upon them
even though her her last act as

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a person was to search for Rock
Creek Park and things to do,

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literally say, hey police come.
Look here.

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She might as well have left a
note.

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Yeah.
And she was apparently, very

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physically active.
And her gym membership had just

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been canceled because she was
moving back to California.

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So obviously, she’s going to
fucking Rock Creek Park to walk

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on the trails.
Let’s hear ya.

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Let me.
A sense but instead of doing any

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of that, the immediate Focus was
on her relationship with Gary

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Condit and I get it.
Yeah, I mean it’s it’s notable I

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would say it was a controversial
relationship for sure.

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He is, I would say definitely
because Gary Condit was very

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much married with a family.
He was in his 50s.

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Chandra Levy said he reminded
her of Harrison Ford.

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Word which seems very
inaccurate.

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Yeah, I mean look I have seen
pictures of Gary Condit a hen.

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He’s not a bad-looking guy but
like Harrison Ford is an

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all-time looker.
Yeah that seems like a scratch

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Harrison.
Ford has a Mount Rushmore face.

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He’s no Gary exactly and also
very kind it’s like 53.

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Yeah.
He’s short short guy Harrison

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Ford’s a mountain of a man.
Probably is huge.

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I just imagined it.
He’s busy, he’s over six feet.

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I think he’s at least six feet
and he’s got big hands to me.

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See it on the screen.
It’s wild better to crash

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airplanes with yes but it’ll
hold the smoke the dude with

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420.
Hey, we are working on the

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celebrating.
We are recording this on for 20.

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You getting high out there.
Oh, yeah, you know, it’s so

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different than every other day.
How’s it feel doing it in place

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where you might go to jail for
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Know about the same.
This is where I started smoking

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weed.
So I’m just kind of used to it

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and like yeah I’m not too
worried.

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They got other things to deal
with right now.

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That’s true.
I mean yeah maybe not these

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gaps.
These are kind of speaking of

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squirrel catchers.
That’s basically what we got

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here.
Yeah, so in July, Chandra, Levy

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zot, goes to the media, to tell
them about her nieces affair

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with Gary.
Condit and that’s when all hell

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breaks loose in the media.
Rightfully so yeah.

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Me, it’s what makes it a huge
National story, really?

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It does seem like I get the
impulse and I think it’s pretty

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clear Gary Condit was just
trying to save his marriage.

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He was doing what any cheating
husband is going to do in that

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case.
He lied.

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Right.
I don’t think the lying is the

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suspicious part.
I guess it’s just that but the

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act of it Is the suspicious
part.

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But yeah, a lot of no lying to,
the parents wasn’t a great idea.

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Yeah.
Lying in general was bad like he

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should.
It’s bad to do.

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She’s missing, he finally
admitted that he was indeed

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having an affair with her in
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After the I went to the media
and from there, I remember this

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story, really just became who
was Gary Condit fucking on the

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side, right?
All these other women came

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forward and that was the news.
And yeah, I even remember

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thinking at the time, it’s like,
are you still looking for that

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girl?
Or are you just trying to find

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more women?
Gary Condit boning seeing it

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turned out to be a unexpected?
Gold?

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Mine, I think.
And everybody was just kind of

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thirsty for those views.
Like it was in between, I’m

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trying to think of some of the
really A big like televised

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court cases, right?
Or televised trials.

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And it seems like it was kind of
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Peterson sure.
Yeah it was offseason for

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murderers and we were hungry for
right?

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Yeah we need one at least every
three or four years in order to,

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you know, keep the blood
boiling.

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We haven’t had a, I guess we’ve
had all the Trump stuff and

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that’s kind of Taking the place.
Yeah, it’s so hard to get away

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with murder now because their
DNA.

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Yeah.
And although, yeah, but I mean,

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but DNA is also some misleading
sometimes, it’s interesting,

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very true.
Yeah, they did a DNA test at one

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point in this case, but all it
did was confirm that Gary Condit

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and Chandra Levy had sex at one
point, which is more.

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I want a new right?
So why bother putting taxpayer

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resources Says into proving that
when e it was already very

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provable.
Like, that’s how the

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investigation continued from
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but in the media, it carried on
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And what’s interesting is around
this time, the FBI interviewed

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Gary Condit for the fourth time
in July of 2001, the interviewer

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was a guy named I’m Brad Garrett
who everyone knows from,

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Everybody Loves Raymond.
Yeah, it was, he’s the Brother

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Gary Condit everybody could
probably play this FBI,

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interviewer.
I mean he’d be good at that kind

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of a thing.
I’d probably confess to Brad

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Garrett before an actual FBI
agent, you know?

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But you got that buttery
baritone, it really Who can

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resist.
So this FBI agent was known for

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getting confessions in really
big cases, which I don’t know if

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that’s a good thing.
I feel like I have to watch

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those confessions and decide for
myself.

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It’s, it’s a weird skill to brag
about.

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It’s like, it would be like if
this was a comedy, someone would

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say that.
Like man, he really had a

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penchant for closing.
Those cases and then you cut

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away and he’s just beating
someone with a rubber hose or

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something.
I mean, yeah it’s one of those

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things where it’s like it’s a
record but you need citation

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needed next to.
It’s like we got we need to know

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what what the circumstances
were, right?

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And two of the cases.
He’d worked on.

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Before me rhyme.
All Kasi who killed two CIA

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employees in 1993 in Langley,
Virginia and ramzi, Yousef.

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Yes, The Mastermind of the far,
less Superior 93 World Trade

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Center bombing?
Well, you know, I think it still

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would have been like a very
successful bombing.

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It just gets overshadowed as far
as World Trade Center attacks.

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Go.
Yeah.

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In terms of just bombings in
general, pretty successful.

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Yeah I mean like he was
definitely a mastermind.

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I think he learns that title but
it’s just yeah they definitely

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executed better.
For the second time around.

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Sure, yes, much more effective.
Jesus, we were all too busy,

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paying attention to Chandra
Levy.

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Well, so we’re all looking the
other way.

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Maybe that’s what happened.
Maybe they maybe Al Qaeda killed

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Chandra Levy as like a.
Look over there for Americans.

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Here’s why 911 happened to two
stories in d.c.

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The FBI is distracted by Chandra
Levy.

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Trying to find out who Gary
conducts fucking in

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Jacksonville.
We already know from the recent

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documentary, the FBI down.
There is trying to bust a

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McDonald’s Monopoly scheme,
right?

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Yes.
Absolutely.

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I mean that guy was the FBI’s
most wanted so Bin Laden came

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around and I love it in that
documentary.

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They’re like oh Jacksonville,
the FBI was a pretty sleepy

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place around this time.
It’s like the 9/11 hijackers

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were training in Jacksonville.
They were there.

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They were there.
R and you were like, what’s up

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with McDonald’s though?
I love it.

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I mean, it’s very interesting
story.

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It is I couldn’t make it through
the documentary, but the plot

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seemed fun.
I didn’t watch the documentary,

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but I did read the big article
that like kind of broke that

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story, which I really enjoyed.
Yeah.

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The documentary way
overestimates, how much I care

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about that Man’s family, who
fuck?

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Yeah, that’s that’s a
miscalculation.

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I what I want is a like a
dramatic film.

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Roaring like Ben Affleck.
Oh hell, yeah, Ben Affleck would

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be good.
I think Ben Affleck’s good in

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most things.
Yeah, I want.

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Chubby vaping, Ben Affleck?
Yeah, yeah, baby.

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That like, that’s, that’s his
mode that he’s in right now.

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He’s like, he’s kind of, like,
kind of sick of it and you watch

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the way back, that’s something.
Anyway, that’s that, Chandra

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Levy.
So the interesting thing about

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Brad Garrett is he comes away
from interviewing Gary Condit

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believing Gary Condit was not
involved.

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And nevertheless the focus
remains on Gary Condit for at

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least another two months and
obviously Gary Condit was a huge

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piece of shit.
And yeah seems like a bad guy.

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Not, not a person of high morals
obviously but man, this ruined

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his life, like Richard Jewell
proportion.

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Ruined.
Yeah.

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Well, the epi dose of Richard
Jewell, didn’t do anything.

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Saying yeah wrong.
Yeah, that’s the difference.

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No one forced Gary Condit to
cheat on his wife.

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It’s dead every fucking
opportunity.

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Yeah, it’s so many times with
anyone.

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So what happened to Gary Condit
was a little more deserved

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because it could very easily
have been avoided by just not

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fucking interns.
Yeah, but one of the crazy

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things that happen to him at one
point someone mentioned to a

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reporter that that Condit had
been dating their teenage

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daughter, which is another crime
on top of the crews already

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accused of.
And so the FBI is like, well,

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that’s interesting.
Let’s go talk to him and the FBI

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talks to him in the guys like,
yeah, I was lying that didn’t

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actually happen, but the story
got published before the guy

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recanted to the AI.
That’s our, that’s our media.

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So now Gary Condit in the media
was a philanderer, a murderer

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and a pedophile.
Even though only one of those

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things was actually true, one,
at least we all know about the

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murderer thinks.
Yeah, I don’t know.

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I’m suspicious.
Yeah.

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This one is confusing because it
feels like the guy we’re going

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to talk about next, should be
the murderer.

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Yeah.
It feels like that.

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Should be the answer, but then
there’s that thing at the end.

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It’s so weird.
He feels too convenient and the

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whole thing, I love how they
phrase As they he has Gary

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Condit had an overwhelming Alibi
because apparently he was

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meeting with the vice president
of the United States at the time

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and like that’s a good Alibi but
also like if you’re going to

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plan the murder of someone being
in the room with the vice

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president of the United States
when that murder is going to

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happen is a not a bad way to do
it.

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Yeah.
That’s true.

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You know, that’s a again it An
overwhelming Alibi.

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It’s how they how it’s phrased.
So I don’t know.

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One of the things that happen to
him that I don’t agree with, I

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never agree with this.
Is this idea that when someone’s

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actively being investigated for
murder, that they owe the media

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answers about their personal
life.

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Totally.
Yeah, absolutely.

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It’s like, I wouldn’t talk to
fucking anybody.

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No, no, no.
Well, you know, you never talk

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to anyone.
No, like, Watch Law & Order,

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man.
Man, like, that’s all you got to

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do.
That’s how you still talk to

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police.
Yeah.

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Reporters either.
Yeah, don’t talk to police.

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Don’t talk to reporters.
Talk to your lawyer.

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If you’ve watched Gone Girl.
Like That should be obvious.

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Yeah, you don’t need.
You don’t talk to anyone.

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Don’t host fundraisers but also
again.

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No one forced Gary Condit to do
those interviews.

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No, I think he let me talk to
like Barbara Walters or

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something and he was asked about
Chandra Levy and still like

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Didn’t really give any answers
but like what?

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I don’t know what people were
expecting.

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Yeah, I mean if you didn’t do it
then and then of course you

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wouldn’t have any answers or
anything to say, makes sense.

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But yeah, and the the Modesto
Bee in August called for him to

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resign and that was a paper that
had sure been supporting him.

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Most of his career.
He even lost the Baskin-Robbins

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franchises.
He owned in Glendale Arizona

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over this.
That’s the real tragedy.

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Yeah.
Yeah, like, at to Baskin-Robbins

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company.
Yeah, I don’t know why he had to

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lose the Baskin-Robbins
franchises.

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It’s not like, Baskin-Robbins
even by then was killing it.

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No, no.
They’ve always been the second

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tier ice cream chain.
You could do a lot worse than

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having a notorious b-list
celebrity possible.

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Murderer owning a couple of your
spots in Arizona, I did find it

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very funny that he owns basket,
he owned a few Baskin-Robbins

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and Arizona, I did it.
When I was reading about it that

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that tidbit really struck my
fancy, it’s fun to think.

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Baskin Robbins was also one of
the last things.

439
00:26:02,100 –> 00:26:04,800
Chandra Levy.
Searched for on her computer.

440
00:26:05,300 –> 00:26:10,100
Yeah.
So imagine working at the Baskin

441
00:26:10,100 –> 00:26:14,300
Robbins when this happens, it’s
gonna be wild or imagine Gary

442
00:26:14,300 –> 00:26:17,000
Condit trying to lie about this
and then they’re like, she

443
00:26:17,000 –> 00:26:21,300
Googled Baskin-Robbins and no
one’s doing that.

444
00:26:21,300 –> 00:26:24,100
Also what’s Google it’s 2001,
right?

445
00:26:24,100 –> 00:26:26,100
Yeah.
Yeah no I guess she asked Jeeves

446
00:26:26,100 –> 00:26:30,700
about basket rapid so yeah
unsurprisingly, he lost his

447
00:26:30,700 –> 00:26:32,800
2002.
Re-election bid.

448
00:26:33,500 –> 00:26:37,700
No shit after being accused of
murder usually people could

449
00:26:37,700 –> 00:26:40,900
bounce back from that.
Yeah, this is back when scandals

450
00:26:40,900 –> 00:26:42,700
mattered.
Yeah.

451
00:26:43,000 –> 00:26:46,100
And just having the woman you
were having an illicit affair

452
00:26:46,100 –> 00:26:50,800
with going missing in the park,
was enough to cost a guy in

453
00:26:50,800 –> 00:26:53,600
election race.
It’s gonna fuck you up.

454
00:26:53,600 –> 00:26:58,100
It’s gonna You step up?
It really is not worth it.

455
00:26:58,100 –> 00:27:02,400
I would say, I would agree.
So, this next wrinkle to the

456
00:27:02,400 –> 00:27:07,600
story, it feels to me at least
like this should be the answer

457
00:27:07,700 –> 00:27:10,600
is early.
As May 2001, the same month,

458
00:27:10,600 –> 00:27:13,200
Chandra Levy went missing DC
Park.

459
00:27:13,200 –> 00:27:17,200
Police knew someone was
attacking women on the hiking

460
00:27:17,200 –> 00:27:22,100
trails in Rock Creek Park right
at the end of May a woman named

461
00:27:22,100 –> 00:27:26,800
Karen Mosley, okay?
Aaron was walking her dog in the

462
00:27:26,800 –> 00:27:28,700
park.
When a young, hispanic man

463
00:27:28,700 –> 00:27:34,000
exposed himself before running
away after her dog, snarled,

464
00:27:34,000 –> 00:27:37,500
when she ran to a pay phone and
called police, they told her she

465
00:27:37,500 –> 00:27:41,100
was lucky to get away because a
man had just attacked a jogger

466
00:27:41,100 –> 00:27:42,900
on the trail.
A few days later.

467
00:27:43,200 –> 00:27:47,100
I hope they told her that in
person and not over phone while

468
00:27:47,100 –> 00:27:50,500
she was still standing out in
the open as you open Target.

469
00:27:51,700 –> 00:27:55,700
Wow, that’s a horror movie.
That’s of just like you’re

470
00:27:55,700 –> 00:27:58,400
lucky, you got away.
There’s been a guy on the loose

471
00:27:58,500 –> 00:28:01,800
attacking people.
Are you calling us from your car

472
00:28:02,300 –> 00:28:08,900
drive away quickly?
So somehow this happens in May,

473
00:28:09,000 –> 00:28:12,600
everyone knows Chandra Levy is
missing by now and the

474
00:28:12,600 –> 00:28:15,800
detectives investigating.
Her disappearance weren’t told

475
00:28:15,800 –> 00:28:21,100
about any of this until July
20th, when in even then they

476
00:28:21,100 –> 00:28:25,600
just received a tip from someone
that A woman had had this

477
00:28:25,600 –> 00:28:30,100
incident happen in the park and
they call the Park police.

478
00:28:30,100 –> 00:28:33,100
And that’s the first time they
learned that a Salvadoran,

479
00:28:33,100 –> 00:28:37,800
immigrant named ingmar Guan DK,
was in jail for assaulting.

480
00:28:37,800 –> 00:28:40,800
Two women in Rock Creek Park,
right?

481
00:28:40,800 –> 00:28:44,200
Hallie Schilling, 30 was
attacked on May 14th.

482
00:28:44,300 –> 00:28:47,400
Christy.
Wiegand 25 was attacked seven

483
00:28:47,400 –> 00:28:51,600
weeks later on July 1st.
Both women were able to fight

484
00:28:51,600 –> 00:28:54,100
off their attacker who turned
out to.

485
00:28:54,300 –> 00:28:58,400
The ingmar Guan DK, who was
arrested about 45 minutes after

486
00:28:58,400 –> 00:29:03,400
the attack on weekend and police
were able to get him to

487
00:29:03,400 –> 00:29:05,900
implicate himself in those two
attacks.

488
00:29:06,100 –> 00:29:09,200
So then they asked him about
Chandra Levy but they just kind

489
00:29:09,200 –> 00:29:12,400
of like casually show him a
picture and say, Hey you ever

490
00:29:12,400 –> 00:29:15,600
seen her and he says yeah I saw
her in the park but I didn’t

491
00:29:15,600 –> 00:29:18,000
attack her.
And then they asked if he

492
00:29:18,000 –> 00:29:20,000
thought she was attractive and
he said yes.

493
00:29:20,400 –> 00:29:24,000
And then they just left it at
that, they didn’t send it.

494
00:29:24,200 –> 00:29:27,800
Any of this information to the
DC, police mom, no case.

495
00:29:27,800 –> 00:29:30,700
Closed.
The seems above board and the

496
00:29:30,700 –> 00:29:33,800
park cop.
Who was interviewing this guy

497
00:29:33,900 –> 00:29:37,700
his reasoning for that was,
well, her case wasn’t mine to

498
00:29:37,700 –> 00:29:39,800
investigate.
It’s like that is not how being

499
00:29:39,800 –> 00:29:42,900
a cop work.
Yeah.

500
00:29:43,100 –> 00:29:45,400
Seems like there should be some
sort of communication.

501
00:29:45,400 –> 00:29:49,300
Yeah, teamwork.
He did say he regrets not saying

502
00:29:49,300 –> 00:29:53,800
anything now but hey thanks.
So.

503
00:29:54,600 –> 00:29:57,600
The detectives investigating
Chandra Levy find out about

504
00:29:57,600 –> 00:30:00,400
this.
They still focus on Gary Condit

505
00:30:00,400 –> 00:30:03,000
for like another two months.
Yeah.

506
00:30:03,200 –> 00:30:07,100
And that’s where that botched
computer search becomes a

507
00:30:07,108 –> 00:30:12,200
problem because ad they known
about Rock Creek Park right

508
00:30:12,200 –> 00:30:15,800
away, then they might have found
out about this guy right away.

509
00:30:15,800 –> 00:30:19,300
They might have searched the
park and found her body, which

510
00:30:19,500 –> 00:30:22,800
possibly would have contained
some sort of evidence pointing

511
00:30:22,800 –> 00:30:24,800
to a suspect.
Right.

512
00:30:24,800 –> 00:30:29,200
But none of that happened.
Yeah, and I’m not sure if

513
00:30:29,200 –> 00:30:31,200
learning about him would have
even helped.

514
00:30:31,400 –> 00:30:33,900
I feel like they still might
have just focused on Gary

515
00:30:33,900 –> 00:30:36,000
Condit, I mean, yeah, that’s the
thing.

516
00:30:36,000 –> 00:30:38,600
It kind.
It seems like such an obvious

517
00:30:38,700 –> 00:30:43,400
choice and I don’t know, I mean,
if they’d already arrested this

518
00:30:43,400 –> 00:30:47,100
guy for other attacks and why,
you know, I guess he doesn’t

519
00:30:47,100 –> 00:30:51,100
really have any reason not to
admit if he had also attacked

520
00:30:51,200 –> 00:30:55,700
Chandra, oh no he would because
he Only attack those two women.

521
00:30:55,700 –> 00:30:58,400
He Chandra Levy was murdered.
Yeah.

522
00:30:58,400 –> 00:31:00,300
Didn’t kill her.
I didn’t kill them.

523
00:31:00,300 –> 00:31:02,100
That’s true.
Yeah, no, no.

524
00:31:02,400 –> 00:31:05,700
That would have given him good
reason to lie about Chandra Levy

525
00:31:05,700 –> 00:31:08,200
while telling the truth about
the other two, right.

526
00:31:08,200 –> 00:31:11,000
But but then it’s weird to say
that he saw her.

527
00:31:11,200 –> 00:31:13,100
Yeah.
The the way they got him to

528
00:31:13,100 –> 00:31:17,400
confess was weird.
He didn’t really confess to

529
00:31:17,400 –> 00:31:21,200
those two attacks.
He just implicated himself

530
00:31:21,200 –> 00:31:24,000
because the detective was like,
okay well is it possible?

531
00:31:24,100 –> 00:31:26,800
Well, maybe she just ran into
you and misunderstood what

532
00:31:26,800 –> 00:31:28,900
happened should have brought
Brad Garrett in there?

533
00:31:28,900 –> 00:31:31,100
Have him finish it off.
What they could have.

534
00:31:31,100 –> 00:31:33,800
Maybe done was bring in someone
who spoke Spanish.

535
00:31:33,800 –> 00:31:37,200
Yeah.
Does that not happen?

536
00:31:37,500 –> 00:31:39,700
Because that would have been
important.

537
00:31:39,900 –> 00:31:44,100
They gave him two polygraph
test, both conducted by people

538
00:31:44,100 –> 00:31:48,900
who did not speak Spanish, it’s
Jesus Christ, he spoke no

539
00:31:48,900 –> 00:31:54,400
English and somehow that’s that.
Second polygraph is how They

540
00:31:54,400 –> 00:31:57,900
eliminated him as a suspect.
Wow.

541
00:31:59,200 –> 00:32:05,700
That’s that’s something else
like I wouldn’t order food if I

542
00:32:05,700 –> 00:32:09,300
couldn’t speak Spanish in the
person, talking to me because he

543
00:32:09,300 –> 00:32:12,000
can bullish.
I mean, I just, I guess I don’t

544
00:32:12,000 –> 00:32:16,200
understand in what world any
sort of polygraph is admissible,

545
00:32:16,200 –> 00:32:19,800
if the language isn’t spoken
because it measures because the

546
00:32:19,800 –> 00:32:22,700
polygraph test measures your
heartbeat basically and you’re,

547
00:32:23,000 –> 00:32:26,800
you know, Suppose stress level
and how are you not going to

548
00:32:26,800 –> 00:32:30,500
have an elevated heart rate?
You’re getting questions about

549
00:32:30,500 –> 00:32:32,900
in the language that you don’t
understand.

550
00:32:33,100 –> 00:32:36,800
I’d be freaking out and then you
have to sit there and hear it in

551
00:32:36,800 –> 00:32:38,600
a language.
You don’t understand, then you

552
00:32:38,600 –> 00:32:41,000
have to have it translated to
you and here’s hoping that

553
00:32:41,000 –> 00:32:44,500
translator likes you and is
translating everything

554
00:32:44,500 –> 00:32:49,600
perfectly.
She’s so they really delayed

555
00:32:49,600 –> 00:32:53,600
looking into this guy as a
possible suspect literally until

556
00:32:53,600 –> 00:32:56,100
it was too late.
The FBI finally interviewed him

557
00:32:56,500 –> 00:33:02,300
in February 2002 so yeah nine
months after Chandra Levy went

558
00:33:02,300 –> 00:33:05,200
missing right?
And then they find her body

559
00:33:05,200 –> 00:33:08,300
three months later and by that
point even if you get a

560
00:33:08,300 –> 00:33:10,700
confession out of the guy you’re
not going to get any physical

561
00:33:10,700 –> 00:33:14,000
evidence because our body is so
decomposed, right?

562
00:33:14,000 –> 00:33:19,900
Yeah exactly.
They did eventually try ingmar

563
00:33:19,900 –> 00:33:24,000
Guan DK for this murder and
despite a lack of physical.

564
00:33:24,100 –> 00:33:29,700
Physical evidence and everything
just relying on testimony, from

565
00:33:29,700 –> 00:33:34,400
a jailhouse informant who turned
out to be a bad, dude, as Joe

566
00:33:34,400 –> 00:33:37,600
Biden would call him, they
convicted him, he was convicted

567
00:33:37,600 –> 00:33:40,800
in 2010.
And I feel like that’s the last

568
00:33:40,800 –> 00:33:45,300
thing I remember from this.
Yeah, is they found the guy who

569
00:33:45,300 –> 00:33:47,600
did it and convicted him and I
thought oh, cool.

570
00:33:47,700 –> 00:33:50,900
That that was definitely the
last time I had heard anything

571
00:33:51,000 –> 00:33:54,200
about this.
And I barely, you know, again, I

572
00:33:54,208 –> 00:33:58,200
was so young when this first
happened that my awareness of it

573
00:33:58,200 –> 00:34:00,400
was still pretty low.
Yeah.

574
00:34:00,400 –> 00:34:03,500
Like I was in my early 20s
mid-20s.

575
00:34:03,500 –> 00:34:06,700
So I like I was like 13 when she
disappeared.

576
00:34:06,700 –> 00:34:11,100
So this was my wheelhouse.
It was this and being excited

577
00:34:11,199 –> 00:34:15,300
about the impending MTV Video
Music Awards on September 10th

578
00:34:15,300 –> 00:34:17,500
2001.
Of course, yeah.

579
00:34:17,600 –> 00:34:20,199
Which word like I mean, a huge
news story.

580
00:34:20,199 –> 00:34:23,699
Britney Spears with the snake.
I remember that’s a big one.

581
00:34:24,100 –> 00:34:26,400
Big deal.
That was a big deal.

582
00:34:26,600 –> 00:34:29,800
It was a huge deal that for
about like 12 hours.

583
00:34:29,900 –> 00:34:35,100
Yeah.
And so any chances of them,

584
00:34:35,100 –> 00:34:40,699
tying him definitively that to
this disappeared when her body

585
00:34:41,100 –> 00:34:45,300
was left in, Rock Creek Park for
more than a year and as it turns

586
00:34:45,300 –> 00:34:49,400
out on the day, she went
missing, which was May 1st, he

587
00:34:49,400 –> 00:34:53,900
missed work that day and showed
up at his landlords place.

588
00:34:54,199 –> 00:34:58,300
Later asking if he could stay
there which you know, you’re

589
00:34:58,300 –> 00:35:01,500
desperate, when you’re asking
your fucking landlord house.

590
00:35:01,500 –> 00:35:05,000
That’s, that’s bold.
I can’t even fathom.

591
00:35:05,000 –> 00:35:08,800
And she said, he showed up
looking like he had been in a

592
00:35:08,800 –> 00:35:12,300
fight and he had bruises and
scratches on his face.

593
00:35:12,300 –> 00:35:18,300
So yeah, it’s possible that he’s
the one who did it.

594
00:35:18,500 –> 00:35:23,600
I mean, yeah, but his conviction
was overturned shortly

595
00:35:23,600 –> 00:35:25,700
thereafter.
After like he his conviction

596
00:35:25,700 –> 00:35:30,000
only stood for a couple months
and ran it turns out a woman

597
00:35:30,000 –> 00:35:34,500
recorded a conversation with the
witness who testified against

598
00:35:34,500 –> 00:35:38,500
him and that witness was just a
fucking Maniac.

599
00:35:38,500 –> 00:35:44,100
Like he was he was a gang member
he wasn’t like gang-affiliated.

600
00:35:44,100 –> 00:35:48,200
He was talking about murders on
this tape and all kinds of crazy

601
00:35:48,200 –> 00:35:51,100
shit hardcore.
Yeah and it’s like even if he’s

602
00:35:51,100 –> 00:35:53,900
telling the truth, there are
some character issues.

603
00:35:54,200 –> 00:36:00,000
Yeah, work van slyke character
issues so ingmar, Guan DK ends

604
00:36:00,000 –> 00:36:02,700
up getting his conviction
overturned.

605
00:36:02,800 –> 00:36:07,300
So sure the death of Chandra
Levy remains unsolved.

606
00:36:07,300 –> 00:36:14,000
He was deported back to El
Salvador in 2011 and I don’t say

607
00:36:14,000 –> 00:36:16,300
this often almost never but
good.

608
00:36:16,400 –> 00:36:20,600
Yeah, I mean, you know, he
doesn’t seem great like a great

609
00:36:20,600 –> 00:36:23,900
guy.
No, he was a violent predator.

610
00:36:24,000 –> 00:36:27,400
Her for sure.
It’s just we can’t prove

611
00:36:27,400 –> 00:36:31,200
definitively that he killed
Chandra Levy, right?

612
00:36:31,300 –> 00:36:35,300
But even before those two
attacks in the park, he had like

613
00:36:35,300 –> 00:36:38,500
the, the one that happened in
late May happened two weeks

614
00:36:38,500 –> 00:36:42,700
after he got out of jail for
attacking a neighbor of his

615
00:36:42,700 –> 00:36:45,700
landlord.
So he moves in with his landlord

616
00:36:45,700 –> 00:36:48,300
potentially because he just
killed Chandra Levy.

617
00:36:48,300 –> 00:36:51,500
And he’s like, well, this is a
good time to rob my landlords

618
00:36:51,500 –> 00:36:56,300
neighbor and he went.
For that and then got out and

619
00:36:56,300 –> 00:36:58,000
commits these two attacks in the
park.

620
00:36:58,000 –> 00:37:05,400
So he’s at least in proximity to
where Chandra Levy was right, at

621
00:37:05,400 –> 00:37:09,100
least what we suspect was the
last place she went and he said

622
00:37:09,100 –> 00:37:12,000
he saw her while he was hanging
out in a parking lot near the

623
00:37:12,000 –> 00:37:15,000
hiking trails.
And one of the women he attacked

624
00:37:15,000 –> 00:37:18,200
said that she first noticed him
hanging out in a parking lot

625
00:37:18,300 –> 00:37:22,800
while she was running past on
the trails so he makes sense for

626
00:37:22,800 –> 00:37:25,600
it, but we’re Literally never
going to know.

627
00:37:25,700 –> 00:37:28,000
No, it’s impossible at this
point.

628
00:37:28,000 –> 00:37:32,200
I don’t think that there’ll ever
be a concrete answer, and here’s

629
00:37:32,200 –> 00:37:36,700
the thing, maybe he didn’t kill
her because in the weirdest

630
00:37:36,700 –> 00:37:40,400
fucking twist possible.
Chandra Levy, his name came up

631
00:37:40,400 –> 00:37:46,400
again in 2017 when allegations
of sexual misconduct were made

632
00:37:46,400 –> 00:37:49,700
against Michigan representative,
John Conyers.

633
00:37:49,800 –> 00:37:53,900
Yeah, this is the guy that Nancy
Pelosi when people asked about

634
00:37:54,100 –> 00:37:56,700
Out.
These allegations responded with

635
00:37:56,800 –> 00:38:00,700
he is an icon.
Yeah, yes, Nancy Pelosi.

636
00:38:00,700 –> 00:38:04,100
Not the best judge of character
in the universe.

637
00:38:04,300 –> 00:38:06,700
Yeah.
Like up to that point Bill Cosby

638
00:38:06,700 –> 00:38:11,300
was an icon to or exactly.
And he still had to answer for

639
00:38:11,300 –> 00:38:13,400
what he did.
Yeah, I remember that.

640
00:38:13,400 –> 00:38:17,400
I remember the John Conyers
story, but I did not remember

641
00:38:17,400 –> 00:38:19,600
the specific detail.
Yeah.

642
00:38:19,600 –> 00:38:23,800
This is nuts in a December 2017
article.

643
00:38:24,000 –> 00:38:27,200
On the Washington Post, so it’s
not like this is in a fucking

644
00:38:27,200 –> 00:38:29,900
conspiracy blog.
This is a real deal.

645
00:38:30,200 –> 00:38:33,500
A woman.
Named Courtney Morse told a

646
00:38:33,700 –> 00:38:36,700
pretty shocking story about John
Conyers.

647
00:38:36,700 –> 00:38:40,200
This is a quote from the article
Morris told the post.

648
00:38:40,200 –> 00:38:43,900
She quit her internship after
Conyers drove her home from

649
00:38:43,900 –> 00:38:45,900
work.
One night wrapped, his hand

650
00:38:45,900 –> 00:38:49,200
around hers as it rested on her
lap and told her he was

651
00:38:49,200 –> 00:38:52,500
interested in a sexual
relationship when she rejected

652
00:38:52,500 –> 00:38:55,300
his advances.
We’re said he brought up the

653
00:38:55,300 –> 00:38:59,600
then developing investigation
Into The Disappearance of former

654
00:38:59,600 –> 00:39:03,400
Federal, intern Chandra Levy.
He said he had Insider

655
00:39:03,400 –> 00:39:07,000
information on the case.
I don’t know if he meant to be

656
00:39:07,000 –> 00:39:09,100
threatening but I took it that
way.

657
00:39:09,500 –> 00:39:12,100
I got out of the car and ran
good.

658
00:39:12,100 –> 00:39:13,300
Good.
Good lady.

659
00:39:13,400 –> 00:39:17,800
That’s weird as fuck.
Yeah, that is a weird thing to

660
00:39:17,800 –> 00:39:24,300
say, in any context, like I
just, I can’t imagine Ringing

661
00:39:24,300 –> 00:39:29,300
that up as like a brag.
Yeah, I don’t know if it’s a

662
00:39:29,300 –> 00:39:34,700
brag so much as it is, it feels
more like from what I can tell

663
00:39:35,100 –> 00:39:43,600
someone trying to scare a weaker
person that he’s preying on with

664
00:39:43,900 –> 00:39:47,700
what would you say like a?
Like a example of how powerful

665
00:39:47,700 –> 00:39:52,400
and connected he is.
Yeah, it’s a risky move.

666
00:39:52,500 –> 00:39:54,800
Oh sure.
The whole Is risky.

667
00:39:55,200 –> 00:39:57,600
It’s not like he did this in
2011.

668
00:39:57,700 –> 00:40:01,100
This was 2001 while the case was
happening.

669
00:40:01,200 –> 00:40:04,200
Yeah.
Fresh on the mic and like, I

670
00:40:04,200 –> 00:40:08,200
doubt it was meant to impress,
like, I can’t imagine.

671
00:40:08,200 –> 00:40:10,400
He was like, Hey wanna fuck?
She was like, No.

672
00:40:10,400 –> 00:40:11,700
And he was like, what if I told
you?

673
00:40:11,700 –> 00:40:16,100
I’d know about Chandra.
Oh, okay.

674
00:40:16,100 –> 00:40:20,200
Yeah, maybe no.
I mean, it’s it’s very clearly a

675
00:40:20,200 –> 00:40:23,900
threat, the Conyers thing
becomes a lot weirder because

676
00:40:24,000 –> 00:40:27,500
Cuz of another article I found
that was written.

677
00:40:27,500 –> 00:40:31,900
By this guy named John
Schindler, who is a former NSA

678
00:40:31,900 –> 00:40:36,700
analyst, and a former
counterintelligence agent who

679
00:40:36,800 –> 00:40:42,500
writes for a website called
Observer.com occasionally and He

680
00:40:42,500 –> 00:40:46,400
suggests that deep State types
like himself.

681
00:40:46,500 –> 00:40:48,600
I guess that’s what they are.
Yeah.

682
00:40:48,600 –> 00:40:53,800
And intelligence guys, he claims
they had a different Theory.

683
00:40:54,100 –> 00:40:59,400
Around 2001 as to what happened
to Chandra Levy and he says it

684
00:40:59,400 –> 00:41:03,100
all centered around, conducts,
personal life, and how he was

685
00:41:03,100 –> 00:41:08,000
just a total fucking poon Hound,
which it seems to be true.

686
00:41:08,100 –> 00:41:12,600
And he was also a member of the
House permanent select committee

687
00:41:12,600 –> 00:41:16,300
on intelligence.
So right watch her episodes of

688
00:41:16,300 –> 00:41:18,700
The Americans people.
Yeah, it means he’s a prime

689
00:41:18,700 –> 00:41:20,700
target for Espionage.
Yeah.

690
00:41:20,700 –> 00:41:23,500
Because he’s in a powerful place
and he’s out.

691
00:41:23,600 –> 00:41:25,100
Fuck.
Around on his wife.

692
00:41:25,100 –> 00:41:29,500
And that means what happens if a
beautiful Russian sits down next

693
00:41:29,500 –> 00:41:34,300
to you at the Davos World
economic conference, right?

694
00:41:34,400 –> 00:41:38,100
Hypothetically Schindler.
Actually there’s a section in

695
00:41:38,100 –> 00:41:42,100
Gary conducts book, where he
talks about that exact thing

696
00:41:42,200 –> 00:41:45,500
happening.
He was at the world economic

697
00:41:45,500 –> 00:41:50,200
Forum in Davos and he said, a
Russian woman who was very

698
00:41:50,200 –> 00:41:53,600
pretty, sat down next to him.
And he basically tells a story

699
00:41:53,600 –> 00:41:56,300
about Her coming back to his
hotel with him.

700
00:41:56,400 –> 00:42:00,400
And I want to say that is a
weird thing to put in your

701
00:42:00,400 –> 00:42:06,500
Memoir, it sure is.
When you are a congressman on

702
00:42:06,500 –> 00:42:10,400
the permanent select committee
on intelligence.

703
00:42:10,500 –> 00:42:13,200
Yeah, like I wouldn’t, I
wouldn’t let anyone with a

704
00:42:13,200 –> 00:42:17,000
Russian accent sit within 25
feet of me if I was on that

705
00:42:17,000 –> 00:42:19,800
fucking committee.
Yeah, I mean, but I also

706
00:42:19,800 –> 00:42:22,600
wouldn’t fuck around.
So, you know, Gary Condit son,

707
00:42:22,600 –> 00:42:25,400
another level.
But I also haven’t been told I

708
00:42:25,408 –> 00:42:28,300
look like Harrison Ford, who
knows what happens when you have

709
00:42:28,300 –> 00:42:31,000
that kind of power?
Yeah, that was too much power

710
00:42:31,000 –> 00:42:34,700
for one man to wield.
Look what happened to Harrison

711
00:42:34,700 –> 00:42:37,300
Ford that’s why Harrison Ford
crashes his plane.

712
00:42:37,300 –> 00:42:41,000
So much people keep telling him.
You look like Harrison Ford.

713
00:42:41,100 –> 00:42:46,900
So Schindler, when he brings up
this review, says that,

714
00:42:46,900 –> 00:42:50,800
basically the suggestion around
the time, Chandra Levy went

715
00:42:50,800 –> 00:42:56,800
missing was that Gary Condit had
been Compromised basically write

716
00:42:56,800 –> 00:43:01,700
to his knowledge or otherwise
sure and was being used as a

717
00:43:01,700 –> 00:43:05,400
source of information for
another government potentially

718
00:43:05,500 –> 00:43:08,900
Russia Pratt.
He alludes to it being Russia

719
00:43:08,900 –> 00:43:12,600
and that because they would have
been monitoring him.

720
00:43:12,600 –> 00:43:16,400
So heavily had one of the women
he was having an affair with

721
00:43:16,400 –> 00:43:21,600
started to act up and possibly
compromise his career.

722
00:43:21,700 –> 00:43:25,600
They might have swooped in and
Taking care of the problem for

723
00:43:25,600 –> 00:43:30,400
him, which on the one hand, I
can see it but it would be a

724
00:43:30,400 –> 00:43:34,400
very short-sighted thing because
you’d have to see that Scandal

725
00:43:34,400 –> 00:43:36,200
coming sexy.
That’s what’s.

726
00:43:36,200 –> 00:43:41,300
So that’s what kind of makes me
skeptical about that angle of it

727
00:43:41,400 –> 00:43:44,000
is.
It’s not like he then continued

728
00:43:44,000 –> 00:43:48,500
to be a good asset after he.
And I heard, you know, she was

729
00:43:48,500 –> 00:43:52,000
killed then that put all this
like spot like the put a

730
00:43:52,000 –> 00:43:54,900
spotlight on him as we talked
about, like For months.

731
00:43:55,100 –> 00:43:57,100
I wonder if they were assuming
police.

732
00:43:57,100 –> 00:44:00,200
We’re just going to pin it on
that guy in the park.

733
00:44:00,200 –> 00:44:04,000
I don’t know if anything I would
have actually had that guy kill

734
00:44:04,000 –> 00:44:08,100
her if I you know, if I were
going to try to do that or but I

735
00:44:08,107 –> 00:44:09,900
don’t know how to even get in
touch with that.

736
00:44:09,900 –> 00:44:12,500
I don’t know.
Yeah, it does seem to me.

737
00:44:12,600 –> 00:44:16,100
I don’t know.
I maybe maybe it’s thinking too

738
00:44:16,100 –> 00:44:18,900
small, but it just feels like
Condit did it.

739
00:44:19,000 –> 00:44:21,000
I feel like that’s what my gut
tells me.

740
00:44:21,000 –> 00:44:23,800
I don’t know.
Yeah, I don’t know if that’s my

741
00:44:23,900 –> 00:44:27,600
Problem with that is whenever
people bring up, oh well, that

742
00:44:27,600 –> 00:44:30,800
guy had a girlfriend on the
side, he probably committed,

743
00:44:30,800 –> 00:44:33,200
this murder.
It is such a big leap from

744
00:44:33,200 –> 00:44:38,100
cheating on your wife to murder.
Like it is not a leap, most

745
00:44:38,100 –> 00:44:42,300
people make true.
But if you’re a politician,

746
00:44:42,600 –> 00:44:44,700
especially one who’s so
connected.

747
00:44:44,700 –> 00:44:49,000
And, you know, I am positive
that once you are in the federal

748
00:44:49,000 –> 00:44:53,800
government, you are, you kind of
become aware of these resources.

749
00:44:54,000 –> 00:44:57,200
Is available to you that aren’t
available to just like normal

750
00:44:57,200 –> 00:45:01,400
people, you know, like it’s I
feel like people get murdered

751
00:45:01,400 –> 00:45:04,800
for politicians all the time and
we just don’t find out about it

752
00:45:04,800 –> 00:45:07,700
or you know the connections ever
made or whatever.

753
00:45:07,800 –> 00:45:12,600
Well no it just or maybe not all
the time but I feel like if yeah

754
00:45:12,700 –> 00:45:17,000
if you’re a politician like
there’s that’s also a clear

755
00:45:17,000 –> 00:45:20,500
motive.
It’s a clear motive for instead

756
00:45:20,500 –> 00:45:24,900
of like if he was an asset
having this this this foreign

757
00:45:24,900 –> 00:45:29,500
government killed this woman
which seems to run completely to

758
00:45:29,800 –> 00:45:34,000
their the goal there which would
be keeping him as an asset.

759
00:45:34,000 –> 00:45:38,700
It makes more sense that he’s
just an impulsive idiot and in

760
00:45:38,800 –> 00:45:43,100
in a desperate attempt to save
his career thinks that he’s

761
00:45:43,100 –> 00:45:45,900
going to have this woman killed.
Yeah.

762
00:45:46,100 –> 00:45:51,000
The John Conyers thing, I guess
it seems more alarming or weird

763
00:45:51,000 –> 00:45:55,500
because I didn’t realize John
Conyers had Many ties to Russia.

764
00:45:55,500 –> 00:45:58,700
Yeah, it’s weird.
Like there’s definitely a lot of

765
00:45:58,700 –> 00:46:01,700
weird shit on the fringes,
especially the whole John

766
00:46:01,700 –> 00:46:06,100
Conyers thing is very strange.
Yeah, he was well, we’ll link to

767
00:46:06,100 –> 00:46:09,900
an article but people who can’t
wait that long if you want just

768
00:46:09,900 –> 00:46:14,600
Google John Conyers Russia like
his ties, to the current.

769
00:46:14,600 –> 00:46:18,100
Like there’s all these examples
of him like breaking from fellow

770
00:46:18,100 –> 00:46:20,400
Democrats when they criticized
Russia.

771
00:46:20,800 –> 00:46:23,600
He was involved in this thing
called the world.

772
00:46:23,600 –> 00:46:26,500
Peace.
As counsel which is basically or

773
00:46:26,500 –> 00:46:30,000
was a Kremlin front in the 80s
and 90s.

774
00:46:30,200 –> 00:46:34,400
So the combination of this
former NSA analysts saying hey,

775
00:46:34,400 –> 00:46:37,600
here’s what we thought happened
in John Conyers, having all

776
00:46:37,600 –> 00:46:41,700
these ties to Russia and also
saying, I know what happened to

777
00:46:41,700 –> 00:46:43,200
Chandra Levy.
Yeah.

778
00:46:43,400 –> 00:46:47,100
It seems really, really fucking
strange to me.

779
00:46:47,100 –> 00:46:51,800
It’s very, it is very strange.
I just always tend to fall on

780
00:46:51,800 –> 00:46:57,400
the side of people acting
Selfishly and shit Lee as weird

781
00:46:57,400 –> 00:46:59,300
as it is.
For Conyers to talk about

782
00:46:59,300 –> 00:47:02,500
Chandra Levy especially in 2001.
It’s very strange.

783
00:47:02,600 –> 00:47:05,600
I mean it was in the news so he
knew that she would know what he

784
00:47:05,600 –> 00:47:09,900
was talking about and if he’s
the guy I mean he sounds like a

785
00:47:09,908 –> 00:47:13,400
huge asshole.
Who would try to use his power

786
00:47:13,400 –> 00:47:18,500
to get people to do what he
wants and he probably does know

787
00:47:18,500 –> 00:47:21,400
that like it’s always possible
that he actually does know, what

788
00:47:21,400 –> 00:47:25,100
happened to Chandra Levy and
that it was that Condit had her

789
00:47:25,100 –> 00:47:27,300
killed and that could be the
implication.

790
00:47:27,400 –> 00:47:28,700
Yeah.
I mean you know.

791
00:47:28,900 –> 00:47:31,700
So maybe contact had Russia have
her killed.

792
00:47:31,700 –> 00:47:35,300
Maybe maybe you did, maybe they
both did, maybe they were both

793
00:47:36,000 –> 00:47:38,900
in on it.
See I want to say even then you

794
00:47:38,900 –> 00:47:42,600
would have to like be concerned
that you were going to leave a

795
00:47:42,607 –> 00:47:47,200
lot of clues about your
involvement with her behind, but

796
00:47:47,200 –> 00:47:49,300
with a be in 2001, you never
know.

797
00:47:49,300 –> 00:47:51,900
Like I feel like Russia would
have been smarter about

798
00:47:51,900 –> 00:47:55,600
computers and phones.
That point and would have known

799
00:47:55,600 –> 00:48:00,700
that even if Gary Condit paid
someone to have her killed, the

800
00:48:00,800 –> 00:48:02,800
scrutiny is going to come back
on him.

801
00:48:02,800 –> 00:48:06,000
Sure, unless someone had
knowledge of this guy attacking

802
00:48:06,000 –> 00:48:08,900
people in the park and new she
runs in the park and was like

803
00:48:08,900 –> 00:48:12,300
mmm, we grew up there who knows?
Yeah I don’t know.

804
00:48:12,300 –> 00:48:15,400
This is a weird one.
There’s no really like

805
00:48:15,400 –> 00:48:19,400
compelling obvious culprit here.
Yeah.

806
00:48:19,500 –> 00:48:24,500
Do you think it’s possible Gary
Condit did 9/11 to Cover up.

807
00:48:24,500 –> 00:48:28,000
What happened to Chandra Levy?
Actually just to take the heat

808
00:48:28,000 –> 00:48:32,200
off a little bit.
Yeah honestly maybe maybe,

809
00:48:32,200 –> 00:48:34,400
maybe, maybe he’s the reason
why.

810
00:48:34,400 –> 00:48:39,500
No one saw that Osama Bin Laden
to attack America.

811
00:48:39,800 –> 00:48:44,300
You know, like that famous memo.
He’s like, let me take that home

812
00:48:44,300 –> 00:48:46,500
for a minute and I’ll give it to
the president.

813
00:48:46,500 –> 00:48:49,000
Just let me, let me take a look
here.

814
00:48:49,100 –> 00:48:51,800
Yeah, that flight that went down
in Pennsylvania was supposed to

815
00:48:51,800 –> 00:48:58,100
crash into Rock Creek Park.
Shit turns out she was on United

816
00:48:58,100 –> 00:49:01,700
93, that would have been wild.
What do you have?

817
00:49:01,700 –> 00:49:06,200
Yeah, that would be if they did
if that was tied in somehow I

818
00:49:06,200 –> 00:49:11,900
mean he just crashed into her
remains a shit.

819
00:49:11,900 –> 00:49:16,600
How did she get on this plane?
According to forensic evidence,

820
00:49:16,600 –> 00:49:19,800
she’s been on this plane for
nine months, turns out.

821
00:49:19,800 –> 00:49:24,600
Oh wait, no, she wasn’t our 70.
They’re never going to solve

822
00:49:24,600 –> 00:49:27,000
this?
No never no, there’s no way.

823
00:49:27,100 –> 00:49:29,000
How is it?
I like, how would it even be

824
00:49:29,000 –> 00:49:31,700
possible to solve it?
I can’t think of a path.

825
00:49:31,800 –> 00:49:36,500
Like that doesn’t involve weird
illegal investigation, tactics

826
00:49:36,500 –> 00:49:39,300
or whatever.
Yeah, when the federal

827
00:49:39,300 –> 00:49:44,900
government can’t pin a murder on
an El Salvadoran, immigrant who

828
00:49:44,900 –> 00:49:49,300
is a member of MS-13.
This is never getting solved.

829
00:49:49,600 –> 00:49:54,400
Exactly, I’m surprised that guy
was just deported and Not the

830
00:49:54,400 –> 00:49:57,900
subject of a six-part Netflix
documentary about always going

831
00:49:57,900 –> 00:50:00,500
to prison for something.
He didn’t do for 20 years.

832
00:50:00,500 –> 00:50:04,300
Yeah that’s that’s cereal season
for whatever season 4 on.

833
00:50:05,500 –> 00:50:08,300
So yeah, nothing nothing is
complete.

834
00:50:08,300 –> 00:50:12,000
Yes, no, no, it’s this one.
This one doesn’t have any sort

835
00:50:12,000 –> 00:50:15,500
of Tidy ending.
It’s just kind of like well

836
00:50:15,500 –> 00:50:20,000
there’s the facts, who knows,
but I do encourage people to

837
00:50:20,000 –> 00:50:22,600
look into John Conyers.
And Russia boy, is that a rabbit

838
00:50:22,600 –> 00:50:23,600
hole?
Yeah.

839
00:50:23,800 –> 00:50:26,800
Yeah.
Weird shit like Russia gets used

840
00:50:26,800 –> 00:50:30,200
way too often as a scapegoat for
pretty much any bad thing that

841
00:50:30,200 –> 00:50:36,100
happens in politics now but I
mean there’s still a big

842
00:50:36,100 –> 00:50:40,800
superpower who don’t like us
very much so they do things.

843
00:50:41,700 –> 00:50:44,900
You know, it’s naive to think
that they’re not operating a

844
00:50:45,400 –> 00:50:49,600
intelligence operation as
sophisticated as ours is.

845
00:50:49,800 –> 00:50:53,700
Yeah, so that’s our episode.
I think this was fun.

846
00:50:54,000 –> 00:50:56,800
Thank you for doing it.
You think you for having me on

847
00:50:56,800 –> 00:51:01,100
to have something different to
think about, than our, the

848
00:51:01,400 –> 00:51:03,900
impending collapse of our
civilization?

849
00:51:05,500 –> 00:51:08,700
Yeah, it’s been.
How’s your lockdown going?

850
00:51:08,700 –> 00:51:11,500
Pretty pretty normal.
Yo, yes, supernormal.

851
00:51:11,500 –> 00:51:16,600
Super, super normal.
Everything is very good.

852
00:51:17,100 –> 00:51:21,300
I definitely don’t wish that I
was back in l.a. at all times.

853
00:51:22,800 –> 00:51:25,500
Yeah, yeah.
A shitty, everything is bad.

854
00:51:25,800 –> 00:51:30,300
You’re not missing much in la.
Oh no, I’m sure I know that but

855
00:51:30,300 –> 00:51:33,600
still you would just have the
theory that you could go do

856
00:51:33,600 –> 00:51:36,500
stuff, right?
Yeah, you really can’t.

857
00:51:36,500 –> 00:51:39,000
Do you have anything to plug
before we get out of here?

858
00:51:39,200 –> 00:51:46,300
Honestly I wish I did but not
much Rana semi permanent Hiatus

859
00:51:46,300 –> 00:51:50,100
on the lowest common
denominator, but I’m looking to

860
00:51:50,100 –> 00:51:55,500
get some new stuff set up but
The meantime that just follow me

861
00:51:55,500 –> 00:51:58,800
on Twitter at.
Hi there hide our I try.

862
00:51:58,800 –> 00:52:01,900
I don’t we very much right now
because all of my thoughts are

863
00:52:01,900 –> 00:52:06,300
super depressing, so but that
means that the only the good

864
00:52:06,300 –> 00:52:10,900
stuff makes it onto the feed.
So, yeah, curated small-batch

865
00:52:10,900 –> 00:52:16,000
Artisan tweets, exactly direct
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00:52:16,000 –> 00:52:21,300
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873
00:52:45,100 –> 00:52:49,400
you can ask me or any of the
hosts on this show questions and

874
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will at some point, do an
episode where we answer them,

875
00:52:52,500 –> 00:52:55,400
right on that, be fun.
Unless you’re all a bunch of

876
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dicks.
Yeah.

877
00:52:58,100 –> 00:53:01,200
Don’t be dicks.
Hey, speaking of that if you

878
00:53:01,200 –> 00:53:04,900
enjoy the show, please go give
us a good rating and review on

879
00:53:04,900 –> 00:53:09,700
iTunes, because the people who
don’t enjoy this show are very

880
00:53:09,700 –> 00:53:14,500
active comes to leaving negative
comments.

881
00:53:14,800 –> 00:53:18,100
So I got a new idea about who’s
killed Chandra Levy.

882
00:53:18,600 –> 00:53:23,800
It’s these – commenters exactly
negative.

883
00:53:23,900 –> 00:53:27,200
There’s killed Chandra Levy and
this is John Conyers after him.

884
00:53:28,600 –> 00:53:30,700
Wait, no, he passed.
I believe.

885
00:53:30,800 –> 00:53:32,100
Did he?
Yeah, I think so.

886
00:53:32,200 –> 00:53:34,900
Russia killed him.
Yeah, probably Russia killed him

887
00:53:34,900 –> 00:53:39,100
of old age.
So go leave us a good rating and

888
00:53:39,100 –> 00:53:41,000
review.
Whenever we get Sandy Hook

889
00:53:41,000 –> 00:53:45,100
truthers who stumble upon
ourselves, look episode The Hell

890
00:53:45,100 –> 00:53:50,800
Breaks Loose on iTunes, and I
will say the worst people in the

891
00:53:50,800 –> 00:53:53,200
world, it’s the dumbest
conspiracy.

892
00:53:53,200 –> 00:53:55,700
It’s the It’s not only is it the
dumbest?

893
00:53:55,700 –> 00:53:58,300
It’s also one of the most evil
eye fag.

894
00:53:58,500 –> 00:54:00,200
Oh yeah.
It just it.

895
00:54:00,200 –> 00:54:04,400
That’s one that viscerally.
It makes me so angry because

896
00:54:04,400 –> 00:54:08,700
that was such a horrific thing
and there go our reviews again.

897
00:54:10,700 –> 00:54:16,100
So yeah, go do that on iTunes if
you can and I think I think

898
00:54:16,100 –> 00:54:17,600
that’s it.
Let’s get the fuck out of here.

899
00:54:17,600 –> 00:54:20,700
Olivia say goodbye, goodbye
goodbye everybody.

900
00:54:20,700 –> 00:54:21,300
We love you.