Conspiracy! The Show The Assassination of Malcolm X: Pt. 2

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Wait till the truth that I
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Hey everybody, Welcome to
conspiracy the show.

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I’m your host, Adam Todd.
Brown joining me on the phone.

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Right now who’s this?
We took Myers.

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What does someone else call him?
I’m so confused right now.

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No, no, it’s just you.
Yeah, we’re getting hundreds of

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calls already.
I’ve lost all credibility

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already.
It’s still weird recording this

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way but we’re doing it.
We’re still Still cranking out

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the con that’s short for Content
saves me.

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Time when I talk.
How is how’s it going?

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How’s house being locked down
treating you?

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Oh man, my girlfriend’s place.
So it’s weird because it’s the

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longest we’ve spent together and
we have yet to fist fight.

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So it’s nice just like slap
boxing and stuff.

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Now it has an escalated to
fistfights know like eyes yet to

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be annoyed with me which is
fucking astounded.

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Like I’m just I’ve been
bothering the fuck out of her.

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Yeah.
I imagine a lot of people are

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bothering the shit out of each
other right now.

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Didn’t divorce rates have spiked
in China because of this?

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Yeah, I heard that.
Which makes sense.

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I didn’t, I guess.
I don’t know what divorce laws

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are like in China.
Is it that easy?

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I bet it’s easier than usual.
Who knows, do you think?

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It’s gonna be super easy.
At least, on the dude side.

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Fucking Godless Communists.
Don’t value the institution of

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marriage at all USA.
We’re today, we’re doing part

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two of our episodes about the
assassination of Malcolm X last

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week.
We talked about the official

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version of events and this week
we’re going to talk about the

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conspiracy theory version, which
isn’t a whole lot different.

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It’s just that the wrong people
probably went to jail.

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Yes.
And who orchestrated it, really?

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I feel like, yeah.
And I feel like we still don’t,

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100%.
Sent know the answer to that

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even though there’s a six-part
documentary.

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Like there’s some suggestion as
to who orchestrated it but it

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feels like there’s still more to
it than what we’ve heard so far.

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Yeah, absolutely.
Like it’s fucking it’s fucking

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weird.
It’s weird.

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But it’s also like kind of in
terms of evidence and like who

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probably did it.
It’s like a lay-up in terms of

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conspiracies.
Oh yeah.

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And that I think that has to do
with the fact that Malcolm X and

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Elijah.
Ahmad and the Nation of Islam in

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general were so heavily
surveilled by the FBI.

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And so many government agencies
that once all that stuff became

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Declassified, we just had like
hours and hours and like not

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even ours just like years worth
of recordings and reports about

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the assassination of Malcolm X
and it’s catchy.

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Oh, absolutely.
Most of what we’re talking about

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today comes from A documentary
that’s on Netflix right now

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called who killed Malcolm X say
six-part, documentary.

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I think it actually needs to be
six episodes which is rare

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allowed of documentaries, are
coming out now.

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And there are a whole series and
it’s like, yeah, this could have

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been like two and a half hours
long and we would have been

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fine.
I think this would have been

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sure 125.
Yeah, maybe like there’s a lot

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of conjecture and stuff that I
was like, you could have you

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could have condensed this a
little bit but I get why?

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They didn’t so I totally
understand it.

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Like I’m not mad at it.
Yeah, the thing about Malcolm X,

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his he’s just not his story
isn’t as well known in this

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country.
So I didn’t mind like there was

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a lot of biography type stuff.
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Which in a lot of cases, I would
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I feel like it’s kind of just a
good primer on who Malcolm X was

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in general.
Mmm, the documentary centers

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around the work of a guy named
Abdul Rahman.

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Muhammad who is a DC tour guide
basically.

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Yeah, by trade and he, as it
turns out has been investigating

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the death of Malcolm X for about
30 years now also, I think it’s

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fair to say that Malcolm X
completely inspired this guy to

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like convert to Islam and like
change his name, right?

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Which is a huge factories.
Was like when he was like 14 or

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so he discovered Malcolm X and
was like, I’ll Muslim now like

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this guy speaks to me.
Yeah, he seems like a good dude

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and it seems like his interest
in.

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This is purely motivated by
Justice and wanting the real

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killers of Malcolm X to face
punishment for it, which spoiler

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never going to happen.
No, also another spoiler, he

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finds all the information Way
too easily.

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Yeah, it’s just out there.
It’s just in boxes.

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It’s like in a basement or like
a library, it’s the easiest way.

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Yeah, and it always kills me
when like, even in this show at

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one point, they interview a guy
in his title is official FBI

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historian, and he’s like, yeah,
we were just really cracking

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down on the civil rights back
then, it’s like, are you proud

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of this?
What is happening right now

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also, it’s like it.
It’s fucking, it’s mind-blowing.

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How many of these people were
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Like they had like the lead
Detective from that like just

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still alive more spoilers.
I’m sorry, I’m going off the

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rails.
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One of the one of the people who
were who was convicted of this

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is out of prison now and he’s in
his 80s and that guy looks

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fucking great.
You look so good.

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He looks like he is like at one
point the we’re jumping ahead

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but in the Hurry.
They’re interviewing this guy

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and he’s like, yeah, I got kids,
who have a kid who’s 64 years

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old.
It’s like you don’t even look 64

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to be fair that I think he had
like four or five kids by the

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time he was like 23 or so like
this when he got when he got

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arrested.
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And then he went to prison
during that stretch of their

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lives when they would have aged
him and warned him out.

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So then he got out and didn’t
have didn’t have to deal with

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any of that.
So still still got that youthful

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exuberance.
And I’m sure that makes

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everything better.
Yeah.

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Hey, cheer up buddy, at least
you still look young.

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So yeah, abdur Rahman.
He’s I’m glad people like this

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exist.
There are there are a couple

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other examples.
There was a guy named Howard

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Donahue, who was part of this
really famous.

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CBS experiment where they tried
to recreate the Kennedy

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assassination basically and he
was the only guy who could do

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it.
And and people ever since then

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have cited that as Evidence that
Lee Harvey Oswald did it, but

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Howard, Donahue was like, no,
no, no one could have done this

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on the first try.
This is crazy and he spent about

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30 years investigating that.
And I think came up with a

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pretty valid theory that we’ve
talked about on the podcast

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before.
And also Tom Grant, the guy who

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has been investigating the death
of Kurt.

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Cobain literally since the day
that happened and it’s a brave

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thing to be that way in the
world.

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As it exists right now with the
way a conspiracy theorist kind

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of get a lot of scorn and
ridicule and it’s yeah, it’s

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interesting to see someone
dedicate their life to something

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like that.
You can see how much it consumed

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him.
Like I feel like this clearly

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like cost him so much in his
life like his marriage and

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whatnot.
Like this dude was just all

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consumed by this.
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And it I think I understand that
because it’s it’s one of those

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things that when you start
looking into The evidence that’s

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just readily available out there
in FBI files and whatnot.

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It’s pretty obvious who actually
committed this murder.

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Yeah.
And like there’s a whole

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community in New Jersey that has
known forever that this guy did

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it.
And nothing was ever done.

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No.
They was like, oh yeah.

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That’s the guy.
Who did it everybody’s like,

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wise and arrested or like own.
Can’t talk about that.

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Like, it’s fucking nuts.
Yeah, the the The argument is

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basically well.
He reformed his life and he’s

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better now.
It’s like he shot Malcolm X.

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That is a huge crime.
Well, he hasn’t shot him

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recently.
No, it’s just, it’s still just

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mind-blowing to how he just walk
the streets and was just like a

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hood Legend as like, that’s the
guy did it?

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Yeah.
Like in the documentary at one

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point someone’s like man, I
can’t imagine having to carry

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that weight your whole life.
It’s like that’s who you feel

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bad for Who had to carry a
murder on?

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His conscience is entire life.
Like he’s you definitely moved

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out mate.
No, I can’t wait till we just

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get into like the documentary.
It’s about how this dude’s face

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was just everywhere like his
name and face was everywhere.

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He’s in the video of the crowd
beating the other gunman and he

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could not look more fucking
guilty in that video.

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Holy shit.
Yeah because you see the

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Talmadge guy.
Getting beat up by like 12 cops

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and people least a dozen people
are carrying this guy and you

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see his head.
Stick out like a Hanna-Barbera

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cartoon and then the dude who
killed him just walking by

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putting a gun in his jacket and
then keeping it moving.

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He looks like he’s got a little
smile on his face.

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He already knows.
He got away with that shit.

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You just like he might as well
thumbs up like that one camera

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that was there.
It was crazy.

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It was it’s like that’s the kind
of here.

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It was.
Everything was just so Fucking

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crazy.
It was insane.

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So as we mentioned last week,
we’ll run through the official

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version again.
Real quick, the official version

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of events.
Malcolm X was killed by three

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assassins Talmadge hair, Norman
3x Butler and Thomas 15x

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Johnson.
We know.

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Talmadge hair is super duper
guilty.

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Yeah, he’s yeah.
Absolutely.

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The guy in the video.
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You want to Malcolm X’s security
guard, shot him in the fucking

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leg.
So that was a legitimate.

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Ultimate conviction.
But as we discussed last week,

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when he went on trial as it
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apparent that the two
co-conspirators, he was being

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tried with were actually going
to be found guilty.

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He made a point of testifying on
their behalf and saying very

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clearly.
That not only are they not

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guilty, but there were actually
Four conspirators and none of

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that mattered.
All three of them ended up going

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to prison because they Tried to
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It’s fucking, it’s a fucking
travesty on limb, the justice

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system.
But totally expected for that

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time and probably still like, oh
100%.

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Like I feel like we’ve as a
country gotten better at stuff

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like this, which is scary.
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Like I think we still kill
people, we just it’s not so

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public and obvious which I don’t
know why they even changed.

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It’s not like the government
ever.

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Got caught killing any low in
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Like did you sweep something
else or just something else will

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just come out as like bigger and
we forget about it eat Epstein.

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Oh yeah.
What’s going on with that?

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I’m sure that case is going to
get solved real soon.

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Yeah we’re hate know he’s just
gonna be a Netflix.

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Doc like 15 years from now.
We’ll be back.

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Oh, I didn’t know, it’s crazy
fucking power.

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So fuck, yeah, so so basically
this documentary challenges that

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official Theory Of what happened
to Malcolm X.

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And there’s basically two parts
to this conspiracy.

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There’s the nation of Islam’s
role which is still very

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prominent.
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They at the end of the day are
responsible for the actual

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killing but then there’s also
law enforcement’s role.

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Which, if they didn’t somehow
directly influence this event,

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they 100% knew it was going to
happen and just let it happen.

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Open, which is not how police
are supposed to work.

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No.
Like this the weekend we get

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into it.
Which the whole thing is just

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it’s fucking crazy and just like
so fucking like wide like wide

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open.
You know what I mean?

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Like, Malcolm X.
Someone should have told Malcolm

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X again.
Oh man, there’s like no cops

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outside.
We got no security like we

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probably shouldn’t do this.
Yeah.

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That that lack of security is
really important.

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To the story.
But one of the, one of the first

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things they challenged in this
documentary is the notion that

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Elijah Muhammad.
Absolutely.

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Would not have ordered a hit on
Malcolm X and that is a thing.

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You hear pretty consistently
from Nation of Islam members who

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were around at the time.
Yeah, but also Malcolm X himself

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in the weeks before he was
killed, was very publicly.

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Telling anyone who would listen
that the Action of Islam was

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going to kill him soon.
So if he thought they were

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behind it, I kind of trust that
it.

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Also, the people that have come
out and said that the nation

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hasn’t didn’t put out the hit on
him, our Nation of Islam

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members.
So like, why would their voice

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like, kind of matter?
You know what I mean, right?

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Like, they’re all boys, and it’s
going to make me Elijah.

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Muhammad would never do that.
It’s like, donkey.

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He absolutely would.
Oh, yeah.

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And the point they make in the
Mannery is that he didn’t really

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need to explicitly.
Come out and say, hey someone

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killed Malcolm X like all he
needed to do was just kind of

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dropped the hint that Malcolm X
was a problem for him.

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And someone was going to take
care of that problem, no matter

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what, so crazy.
And for proof of this, they

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turned to The Experts, which is
the FBI.

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If you, if you want any
information, ERM a tional about

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Malcolm X or Elijah Muhammad and
what they were up to every

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single day in the 60s, the FBI
probably recorded.

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Whatever they were doing every
single phone, call every single

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meeting.
Like they had moles within the

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organization’s on both ends,
like, and just pages and pages

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of fucking notes about these
guys.

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Yeah, the the number of FBI
informants in operatives that we

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eventually find out.
They had not just inside the

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organization but in the Room
when Malcolm X died, it’s

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mind-blowing.
Yeah, the guy that gave him

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like, CPR was one.
Yeah, yeah, that that’s will get

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to that.
That’s fuck.

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Yeah, that’s probably the
craziest detailed.

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It’s all fucking in state.
Just like how did they not

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notice these new people in the
group?

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You know what I mean?
Yeah, they, that’s the thing.

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They had to notice like the the
Be, I personally like the

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documentary doesn’t explicitly
say it, but I kind of feel like

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the person who shot Malcolm X
was probably working for or with

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the FBI.
Absolutely.

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Because they go to a lot of
lengths to protect him and as we

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learn from the assassination of
Malcolm X, the feds weren’t

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really trying too hard to
protect black people in 60s.

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No.
This guy, they did weird but in

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these FBI Files, one of the when
they’re talking about this idea.

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That Elijah Muhammad wouldn’t
have ordered the hit.

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Like you said earlier this,
these files are just there.

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They’re just like they’re just
in a basement and this guy was

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like, oh yeah we got boxes of
shit.

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Yeah, like almost like no one’s
ever wanted to look at this but

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we have all this I guess it was
fucking crazy.

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And in one of the logs of Elijah
Muhammad’s calls there is this

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quote with these Hypocrites when
you find them cut their heads

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off and what they say in the
documentary is that would have

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been enough like whoever was in
the room and heard Elijah

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Muhammad, say that would have
just taken it as okay?

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Well, we need to kill Malcolm X,
Man, and Talmadge hair also

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says, at one point during an
interview, which he’s passed

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away.
Since then this is like an old

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prison interview.
There’s like in the 80s.

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Yeah.
But he said he wouldn’t, he

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didn’t need.
Direct order from Elijah

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Muhammad.
He knew what he was supposed to

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do.
Yeah, there were also

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suggestions that Elijah,
Muhammad’s children, we’re using

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the Nation of Islam to get rich.
And that if something happened

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to Elijah Muhammad, Malcolm X
would be number two in the line

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of command.
And he might crack down on all

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that corruption.
So maybe they wanted him.

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Dead.
Will children just get all like

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makes sense.
Like I know we talked we Touched

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on it in the last episode about
how like Malcolm X was

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theoretically, like, fucking it
up for a lot of people like he

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was safer.
Being a part of the Nation of

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Islam, like spreading like sort
of like the rhetoric that they

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were spreading rather than just
going against the grain and be

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like, no, everybody should be
equal.

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We should all be in this
together.

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Like, that’s way more dangerous
than fucking just being a

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separatist.
Yeah.

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Once he left the Nation of
Islam, he was kind of Everyone’s

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enemy instead of just the nation
of Islam’s enemy.

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Like by the time he gets to
North Africa, like the state

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department is basically
monitoring him to the thing that

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really strikes me about this
documentary is just like imagine

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being Malcolm X in that last
month of his life.

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Like just knowing that every
Force possible in this country,

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even a group that you helped
build Is now basically intent

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on, shutting you up forever,
that would be such intense

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pressure and to still go out and
hold these rallies and still

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keep that commitment.
The world needs more, people

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like that, but the government
would just kill him.

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Absolutely.
We’ll just like, turn a blind

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eye.
Like they were like that.

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A referee who was just like, you
know, you guys get.

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You guys are going to get any
color you want like this.

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Do you thing and we’re going to
make sure you win.

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I feel like We saw the same
thing when Tupac died that felt

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like a thing where the police
were just like, yeah, we’re

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probably never going to figure
that out, right.

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I bet in 50 years when all the
files are Declassified will find

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out the FBI was just on Tupac
all the time.

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And knew this shit was about to
happen, which it’s crazy to

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think about.
He was only like, 25 years old,

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I’m 24 25?
Yeah, that’s the fucking crazy

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part, and I feel like every
year, there’s at least a

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documentary on it.
Her VH1 would be T.

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Maybe every two years about
like, we know who killed Tupac

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and they never get an answer.
No, there’s been three attempts

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to make a movie out of this book
called Labyrinth, which is based

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on this LAPD, detective named
Russell Poole and he did kind of

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an independent investigation
into Notorious BIG and Tupac

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both.
And basically decided that the

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LAPD was the most complicit in
that killing.

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And they’ve tried three
different times to make a movie

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out of that book, and it ends up
getting shut down every time.

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Stallone tried to make one
really Johnny Depp not only

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tried to make that movie but
there were trailers in theaters

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for it and then the allegations
about him.

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Abusing Amber Heard came out and
who fuck The real shelved and

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then lie and Leonardo DiCaprio
was set to play Russell Poole in

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a movie and it got shut down
again.

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So it’s like that live action,
like Acura of like black

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conspiracy movies basically.
So they also talked about, just

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how badly the relationship
between Malcolm X in the Nation

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of Islam was deteriorating.
And I think they make a pretty

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strong case that The idea that
Elijah Muhammad wouldn’t have

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ordered this really doesn’t
matter because he said it, and

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it’s also like again, like
Malcolm X was like, blowing up

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his spot on every fucking front,
right?

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Like he was just like nation of
Islam’s bullshit.

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That’s not real Islam.
Elijah.

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Muhammad’s got multiple baby
mamas and it’s like it’s blowing

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up his spot insanely.
Yeah.

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And even if Elijah Muhammad
never said that, Malcolm X

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should be killed, his son, said
it.

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Elijah Muhammad Junior.
At a rally basically said,

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Malcolm X’s tongue should be cut
out and mailed to Elijah

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Muhammad and I’m no medical
expert, but I feel like he would

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probably die in that process.
So that’s that’s close enough.

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They said that I got Elijah.
Muhammad son was like, his

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mouthpiece.
So, like, whatever he said was

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might as well Elijah Muhammad
would have said it Tell me that

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like Elijah Muhammad son is just
going to go out there and say

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shit without get like a cosine
from Elijah Muhammad.

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Yeah, we already know what
happens when a member of the

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Nation of Islam.
At the time said something

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Elijah Muhammad didn’t like
because it happened to Malcolm X

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after.
Yeah, JFK died.

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He was publicly censured for
saying what he said.

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So there was there was no
censoring of Elijah Muhammad jr.

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When he said Malcolm X should be
killed.

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So I think the idea that the
Nation of Islam Aam wouldn’t

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have ordered.
This is not true.

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You know, take that history.
And again all they did was just

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interview, nation is a members.
And I want to say Elijah

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Muhammad’s daughter being like
Elijah would never say this.

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Like, dude, he didn’t like yeah,
he did.

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She was like I was there.
Okay.

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You also look for?
Yeah, exactly.

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Everyone’s kids.
Look crazy young, Matt.

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What a Malcolm X’s daughters is
in this and she looks like she’s

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fucking Yeah.
No it goes with like black don’t

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crack plus this really wasn’t
that long ago.

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Yeah, that’s true.
It was I think we’re coming

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right up on what year was it
6767?

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So like 53 years.
Yeah.

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Well so she was why I like she’s
probably like 60 and she looks

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28.
Yeah, yeah.

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God damn.
Good genes.

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Yeah.
So with all of these Rifts that

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are happening between Malcolm X
and the Nation of Islam The FBI

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is on all of their phones and
Communications.

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They have top-level informants
which in the Nation of Islam,

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there were only like 10 people
at the top and the FBI was like

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we got three at the top which
that is 30% of the top

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leadership of the Nation of
Islam was FBI, informants.

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It’s fucking insane.
Like watching this.

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I almost got the sense that the
Nation of Islam was Maybe

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started by the government to
Steer black people in this

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country away from actual Islam
and more toward, whatever the

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Nation of Islam is like I can
totally see that in like

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somewhat agree with that.
Where if they weren’t started by

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the government, the government
at least co-signed on it to be

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like, it’s sort of a benefit to
like, have black people think

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that they can get power, but
they really aren’t going to

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advance even within this group,
right?

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So it was like, as radical as
they seemed.

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They were pretty safe for like,
what could actually demand

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change?
Like at the time.

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Yeah.
And that, that really becomes

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the defining difference between
the Nation of Islam and Malcolm

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X, he wanted to handle things
one way and they wanted to

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handle things another way and
the situations where they choose

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where the Nation of Islam
chooses to stand down and not

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say anything, like the JFK
assassination, those shootings

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at the mosque in LA.
Yeah.

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Like that just makes me feel
like, who are you really fucking

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working for here?
Because those were things that

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people should have been very
angry about and you would expect

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a Nation of Islam to say
something about it and in all of

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00:25:40,100 –> 00:25:43,300
those moments they kind of
backed off which I know.

439
00:25:43,600 –> 00:25:48,400
It seems weird.
So the FBI they find out all of

440
00:25:48,400 –> 00:25:53,300
these Rifts are happening and it
seems like what they decide to

441
00:25:53,300 –> 00:25:58,100
do is It just sort of like see
if they can inflame things a

442
00:25:58,108 –> 00:26:03,400
little bit and the one thing
they do is they fire off letters

443
00:26:03,400 –> 00:26:08,100
to Clara Muhammad, who was
Elijah, Muhammad’s wife telling

444
00:26:08,100 –> 00:26:12,300
him her about all of the
Affairs, he was having didn’t

445
00:26:12,300 –> 00:26:14,900
really work.
Did not work and she was just

446
00:26:14,900 –> 00:26:17,000
like, yeah, what is he supposed
to do?

447
00:26:17,000 –> 00:26:21,200
Like, kind of cool with it.
Like you takes, like he was

448
00:26:21,200 –> 00:26:23,500
fucking stunning to me.
Yeah.

449
00:26:23,500 –> 00:26:27,800
And I think Because that also is
a thing that eventually causes

450
00:26:27,800 –> 00:26:31,400
Malcolm X to leave.
And I think that also is makes

451
00:26:31,400 –> 00:26:34,700
me kind of suspect of the
organization as a whole, because

452
00:26:34,700 –> 00:26:39,300
they interview this guy named
John Ali, a whole bunch and it’s

453
00:26:39,700 –> 00:26:45,600
been suggested or suspected that
John Ali was actually FBI agent

454
00:26:45,600 –> 00:26:48,900
or an FBI informant.
And they asked him about Elijah

455
00:26:48,900 –> 00:26:52,900
Muhammad’s Affairs and he’s
like, yeah, I don’t care like

456
00:26:52,900 –> 00:26:55,800
what’s it matter to me?
It’s like, well, he’s teaching a

457
00:26:55,808 –> 00:27:00,100
thing and then he’s doing a
different thing in like that

458
00:27:00,100 –> 00:27:04,600
doesn’t bother you at all and
he’s like, nah what it should

459
00:27:04,600 –> 00:27:06,500
bother you.
Unless you’re like a government

460
00:27:06,500 –> 00:27:11,600
agent, it really should and it’s
just the things.

461
00:27:11,600 –> 00:27:15,200
People would turn a blind eye
to, to, like, for their leaders.

462
00:27:15,200 –> 00:27:18,200
And for like there, cause like,
if it can benefit them, they

463
00:27:18,200 –> 00:27:21,900
don’t give a fuck.
There is a really interesting

464
00:27:21,900 –> 00:27:27,000
moment in this documentary where
The FBI as part of their efforts

465
00:27:27,000 –> 00:27:30,600
to kind of divide the Nation of
Islam further.

466
00:27:31,000 –> 00:27:35,100
They approached Malcolm X and
try to flip him as an informant

467
00:27:35,200 –> 00:27:38,000
and he records the entire
conversation.

468
00:27:38,000 –> 00:27:39,800
They don’t realize he’s
recording.

469
00:27:40,000 –> 00:27:44,600
And at one point they they, you
know, just kind of outright say,

470
00:27:44,600 –> 00:27:47,700
you know, if you can give us
information about what’s

471
00:27:47,700 –> 00:27:50,800
happening in the Nation of
Islam, maybe we can give you

472
00:27:50,800 –> 00:27:53,400
money, or help, or whatever,
kind of help you need in.

473
00:27:53,400 –> 00:27:57,500
His quote was Was there is no
government agency that can ever

474
00:27:57,500 –> 00:28:01,700
expect information for me.
Fuck, yes, that is what I like

475
00:28:01,700 –> 00:28:03,800
to hear, dude.
It would have fucked up

476
00:28:03,800 –> 00:28:06,500
everything.
If he flipped joined the FBI

477
00:28:06,900 –> 00:28:10,200
because I feel like we both
suspect like the FBI and the

478
00:28:10,200 –> 00:28:12,700
Nation of Islam were like
pretty.

479
00:28:13,200 –> 00:28:15,400
They’re pretty friendly.
So if they were like yeah we got

480
00:28:15,400 –> 00:28:18,200
Malcolm X informant, they would
have just a lured him as an

481
00:28:18,200 –> 00:28:20,200
informant immediately.
Oh yeah.

482
00:28:20,500 –> 00:28:24,900
Like and during this time he’s
trying to like send Letters to

483
00:28:24,900 –> 00:28:30,300
Elijah, Muhammad to reconcile.
And everyone is like stopping

484
00:28:30,300 –> 00:28:32,500
those letters from getting
through the, it’s like the

485
00:28:32,500 –> 00:28:36,700
notebook.
Yeah, it does exactly like the

486
00:28:36,700 –> 00:28:40,500
notebook.
So they finally the thing that

487
00:28:40,500 –> 00:28:44,500
it seems like finally split.
Some is Cassius Clay, where

488
00:28:44,500 –> 00:28:48,500
Malcolm X befriends, Cassius
Clay in Miami, and kind of

489
00:28:48,500 –> 00:28:51,400
brings him to the Nation of
Islam and then when he gets

490
00:28:51,400 –> 00:28:54,300
there, he’s like well Elijah
Muhammad gave me my new name.

491
00:28:54,400 –> 00:28:58,600
It’s Muhammad Ali, which as it
turns out, that’s a very special

492
00:28:58,600 –> 00:28:59,800
name.
Yeah.

493
00:28:59,900 –> 00:29:06,100
In Islam and Malcolm X is kind
of exiled from the group, even

494
00:29:06,200 –> 00:29:10,600
even Muhammad Ali turns on him.
I know it’s fucking sad so that

495
00:29:10,800 –> 00:29:13,900
that’s when they finally split.
And even a cop in this

496
00:29:13,900 –> 00:29:18,100
documentary realizes that that
was a, not a great move on

497
00:29:18,100 –> 00:29:21,600
Elijah Muhammad’s part because
Malcolm X.

498
00:29:21,800 –> 00:29:25,300
Like, even if he said some
controversial From time to time,

499
00:29:25,300 –> 00:29:29,400
he was great at recruiting
people to this cause.

500
00:29:29,800 –> 00:29:32,600
Yeah, absolutely.
Like it’s just, it’s just all so

501
00:29:32,600 –> 00:29:37,400
fucking crazy and like pretty
depressing it honestly, just

502
00:29:37,400 –> 00:29:40,900
just how much like preventable
shit there was, and just like

503
00:29:40,900 –> 00:29:45,700
how, again, how wide open this?
All is like, this evidence was

504
00:29:45,700 –> 00:29:48,700
readily available for the public
and it’s just it’s just so

505
00:29:48,700 –> 00:29:49,900
fucking sad.
Yeah.

506
00:29:49,900 –> 00:29:55,100
And it was as we find out later
the like all of It was readily

507
00:29:55,100 –> 00:29:58,600
available to the FBI like they,
everyone knew this was going to

508
00:29:58,600 –> 00:30:01,600
happen.
That’s the saddest thing about

509
00:30:01,600 –> 00:30:04,400
this to me.
It’s it’s not so much.

510
00:30:04,400 –> 00:30:08,600
I mean it’s obviously a huge
bummer that Malcolm X was

511
00:30:08,600 –> 00:30:12,800
assassinated, but it’s like so
many people knew it was going to

512
00:30:12,800 –> 00:30:16,400
happen and just kind of waited
for it to happen and they were

513
00:30:16,400 –> 00:30:19,700
happy when it did come out extra
saying it for like the last

514
00:30:19,700 –> 00:30:21,200
month was like being.
Like, they’re trying to kill me,

515
00:30:21,200 –> 00:30:25,500
they’re going to kill me.
Yeah, and the police do some

516
00:30:25,500 –> 00:30:28,800
really cynical shit in response
to that.

517
00:30:28,800 –> 00:30:32,900
But before we get to that, they
he splits with the Nation of

518
00:30:32,900 –> 00:30:36,400
Islam, and that’s when he starts
touring the world.

519
00:30:36,500 –> 00:30:41,700
And basically saying, look, I’ll
work with anyone to fix this

520
00:30:41,900 –> 00:30:47,000
problem and that’s when I think
he really gets on the US

521
00:30:47,000 –> 00:30:48,800
government’s.
I mean, he was already on the

522
00:30:48,800 –> 00:30:51,800
government’s radar but he was on
the state Department’s radar

523
00:30:52,300 –> 00:30:54,900
once.
Our to do in that because like

524
00:30:54,900 –> 00:30:59,500
an independently powerful.
Malcolm X is dangerous to both

525
00:30:59,500 –> 00:31:03,200
of those sides, the Nation of
Islam and the US government.

526
00:31:03,200 –> 00:31:06,800
And I feel like those two sides,
both had an understanding that

527
00:31:06,800 –> 00:31:09,500
someone was going to kill him
and they’re just like, well,

528
00:31:09,500 –> 00:31:11,200
whoever gets there first, I
guess.

529
00:31:11,500 –> 00:31:14,800
So, one of the things they
talked about a lot in this

530
00:31:14,800 –> 00:31:20,000
documentary is the affidavit
that Talmadge hair files where

531
00:31:20,000 –> 00:31:24,500
he names all of the spirit errs
which he didn’t do.

532
00:31:24,500 –> 00:31:27,700
It took him 12 years to do that
and he basically waited for

533
00:31:27,700 –> 00:31:31,800
Elijah Muhammad to die which
cool that you finally did it.

534
00:31:31,800 –> 00:31:35,500
But also to other people went to
prison for 20 years over this

535
00:31:35,500 –> 00:31:36,500
shit.
Yeah.

536
00:31:37,100 –> 00:31:41,400
But I also I don’t know what he
could have done like he

537
00:31:41,400 –> 00:31:46,200
literally got on the stand and
said no they were not there.

538
00:31:46,800 –> 00:31:50,100
They could not have been there.
Don’t find them guilty and they

539
00:31:50,100 –> 00:31:53,500
found him guilty.
No, it’s true and Again, I get

540
00:31:53,500 –> 00:31:56,100
why he waited till it, Elijah
Muhammad died because I mean

541
00:31:56,600 –> 00:31:59,900
it’s a huge Nation of Islam
community in jail.

542
00:32:00,100 –> 00:32:04,500
So like if he fucking named the
other people’s with like that he

543
00:32:04,600 –> 00:32:07,400
probably would have died in jail
my quicker than he actually did.

544
00:32:07,600 –> 00:32:10,000
Yeah.
That I mean that’s where he,

545
00:32:10,100 –> 00:32:13,400
that’s where Malcolm X found the
Nation of Islam.

546
00:32:13,400 –> 00:32:14,500
So they.
Yeah.

547
00:32:14,500 –> 00:32:18,100
That’s true.
That that probably was prison

548
00:32:18,200 –> 00:32:20,700
pressure.
Yeah, more than anything but he

549
00:32:20,700 –> 00:32:25,800
does finally named him Benjamin.
Ian Thomas Leon Davis, William X

550
00:32:25,900 –> 00:32:30,100
Bradley and Wilbur.
I can’t, I can’t tell from the

551
00:32:30,100 –> 00:32:31,700
documentary.
If the fourth guy’s name is

552
00:32:31,700 –> 00:32:36,400
Wilbur Kinley or Wilbur or
Kinley through like dead by that

553
00:32:36,400 –> 00:32:38,600
time, right?
Most of them.

554
00:32:38,700 –> 00:32:44,000
Yeah, look for 25 of them but
one of them was still alive and

555
00:32:44,000 –> 00:32:47,200
I want about having a fucking
blast out there.

556
00:32:47,200 –> 00:32:50,400
Palin it up with Cory Booker and
shit, right?

557
00:32:51,200 –> 00:32:55,500
All of all of the Is, were from
Newark from the Newark New

558
00:32:55,500 –> 00:32:59,200
Jersey, mosque, which is, it
seems like had been an Open

559
00:32:59,200 –> 00:33:02,200
Secret as it relates to the
killing of Malcolm X for

560
00:33:02,200 –> 00:33:04,100
decades.
Absolutely.

561
00:33:04,100 –> 00:33:07,000
They interview all of these
people in Newark like all of

562
00:33:07,000 –> 00:33:11,100
these Nation of Islam leaders in
Newark and they’re all like,

563
00:33:11,300 –> 00:33:15,900
yeah we know like we we knew the
Killer’s came from New Jersey,

564
00:33:16,000 –> 00:33:18,900
dude.
It was just like, everybody’s

565
00:33:18,900 –> 00:33:20,500
like yeah, we’re not gonna talk
about that.

566
00:33:20,600 –> 00:33:22,500
Yeah.
It was like yeah we know what?

567
00:33:22,600 –> 00:33:25,200
It was too much to talk about
and it’s like, dude, that is why

568
00:33:25,500 –> 00:33:28,000
Abdul Rahman was there was to
talk about this.

569
00:33:28,000 –> 00:33:30,000
But like, yeah, come on right
now, is not the day to talk

570
00:33:30,000 –> 00:33:31,700
about this guy.
Who killed Malcolm X.

571
00:33:32,000 –> 00:33:36,100
Yeah, they both Norman Butler
and Thomas Johnson.

572
00:33:36,400 –> 00:33:39,200
They both had really solid
Alibis.

573
00:33:39,400 –> 00:33:44,300
And even without those Alibis,
they bring up the point.

574
00:33:44,300 –> 00:33:47,000
That, you know, the reason we
were convicted of this is

575
00:33:47,000 –> 00:33:52,600
because we were very openly
aggressive and very open.

576
00:33:52,700 –> 00:33:56,900
Series of Malcolm X.
So it makes sense that we would

577
00:33:56,900 –> 00:34:01,700
be convicted but also because
they were such open adversaries

578
00:34:01,700 –> 00:34:03,800
of Malcolm X.
There’s no fucking way they

579
00:34:03,800 –> 00:34:06,300
would have been let in the
Audubon Ballroom that day.

580
00:34:06,600 –> 00:34:11,600
Yeah and one of Malcolm X’s
security detail at one point

581
00:34:11,600 –> 00:34:14,500
files an affidavit saying the
exact same thing.

582
00:34:14,600 –> 00:34:18,500
Like they knew these people very
well, they knew how they felt

583
00:34:18,500 –> 00:34:22,800
about Malcolm X and they would
not have let those two in the

584
00:34:22,800 –> 00:34:25,000
ballroom at all.
Of course they got 20 years for

585
00:34:25,000 –> 00:34:27,300
not showing up.
Yeah, yeah.

586
00:34:27,300 –> 00:34:29,199
They said, I mean, that didn’t
keep him out of prison.

587
00:34:29,400 –> 00:34:34,699
What’s crazy is when they tried
these three men, they tried them

588
00:34:34,699 –> 00:34:38,100
as a group which meant any of
the evidence they had against

589
00:34:38,100 –> 00:34:41,100
Talmadge hair, which was pretty
considerable.

590
00:34:41,400 –> 00:34:43,500
Yeah, also applied to the other
two.

591
00:34:43,500 –> 00:34:48,400
So there was really like they’re
almost was no independent Alibi

592
00:34:48,400 –> 00:34:51,199
that you could have now which
again is so fucked up.

593
00:34:51,199 –> 00:34:54,500
But again goes to show how Like
the government just wanted this

594
00:34:54,500 –> 00:34:56,199
over with as quickly as
possible.

595
00:34:56,400 –> 00:34:58,700
She knew of this case like
dragged out then more.

596
00:34:58,700 –> 00:35:01,900
I’ve been sort of come out and
like proven that they were in on

597
00:35:01,900 –> 00:35:02,800
it.
Yeah.

598
00:35:02,900 –> 00:35:08,600
And like, the police knew all of
this, like, they knew me so much

599
00:35:08,600 –> 00:35:12,800
about how the Nation of Islam
worked because they had so many

600
00:35:12,800 –> 00:35:18,800
informants within the group, not
only that, but they did such a

601
00:35:18,800 –> 00:35:22,800
little police work for this.
Oh yeah, they were like we Talk

602
00:35:22,800 –> 00:35:26,700
to like 10 people.
They said they saw these guys

603
00:35:26,800 –> 00:35:31,300
didn’t say why, and they left
the fucking Podium like they’re

604
00:35:31,300 –> 00:35:35,600
they didn’t take it or anything
and then that night was still a

605
00:35:35,600 –> 00:35:37,800
ballet.
Yeah, there was a dance later

606
00:35:37,800 –> 00:35:40,500
that night, the cleaned up the
ballroom was, who cares?

607
00:35:40,700 –> 00:35:45,700
Yeah.
It was such like fucking just

608
00:35:45,700 –> 00:35:48,900
misconduct and just chillness
for what went down.

609
00:35:49,000 –> 00:35:52,000
Yeah.
That one of the ironies of all

610
00:35:52,000 –> 00:35:56,200
this is As they talked so much
about how Malcolm X’s Killers

611
00:35:56,200 –> 00:36:00,200
came from the New Jersey mosque.
There’s a high school in New

612
00:36:00,200 –> 00:36:02,100
Jersey called Malcolm Shabazz.
High School.

613
00:36:02,300 –> 00:36:05,200
Yeah, and it turns out it’s the
high school that one of the

614
00:36:05,200 –> 00:36:08,500
Killer’s graduated from man.
Fun fact.

615
00:36:08,600 –> 00:36:10,900
There’s also a Malcolm Shabazz
High School in Madison

616
00:36:10,900 –> 00:36:12,600
Wisconsin.
That’s pretty cool.

617
00:36:12,800 –> 00:36:17,700
I used to live in Madison and
Shabazz was the high school.

618
00:36:17,700 –> 00:36:21,400
You went to if you just couldn’t
get along at any other High

619
00:36:21,400 –> 00:36:26,400
School, That’s usually the case
for like most black leader named

620
00:36:26,400 –> 00:36:29,800
schools.
Yeah, imagine that, that right

621
00:36:29,800 –> 00:36:32,300
country was better than that.
If you like that sort of country

622
00:36:32,300 –> 00:36:34,500
knows to not give money to those
schools.

623
00:36:34,600 –> 00:36:35,400
Yeah.
Oh yeah.

624
00:36:35,500 –> 00:36:38,400
Pretty much right the fucked up
to say, no.

625
00:36:38,400 –> 00:36:42,900
I mean, it’s like it’s like the
old Chris Rock joke, like MLK

626
00:36:42,900 –> 00:36:46,100
Boulevard in any town is going
to be the scariest, most violent

627
00:36:46,100 –> 00:36:50,800
the street that’s fair.
And it’s yeah, I think that they

628
00:36:50,800 –> 00:36:52,400
do the same thing with high
schools.

629
00:36:52,600 –> 00:36:57,300
Yeah, so this affidavit the
Talmadge hair filed.

630
00:36:57,300 –> 00:37:01,200
It lays out exactly how this
crime happened.

631
00:37:01,400 –> 00:37:05,300
Like he goes into detail about
how they scoped out the building

632
00:37:05,300 –> 00:37:08,900
the night before and they
figured out what exits they were

633
00:37:08,900 –> 00:37:14,500
going to use and they were able
to just they had no deterrent.

634
00:37:14,500 –> 00:37:17,700
There was they were just able to
do it like if Talmadge hair

635
00:37:17,700 –> 00:37:20,800
hadn’t got shot in the leg, he
would have probably got away

636
00:37:20,800 –> 00:37:22,200
too.
Absolutely?

637
00:37:22,600 –> 00:37:26,700
And it wasn’t even like a
fucking sophisticated plan.

638
00:37:26,900 –> 00:37:30,000
Like this isn’t like it Ocean’s.
Eleven type detail that went

639
00:37:30,000 –> 00:37:31,600
into this.
They would stick work.

640
00:37:31,600 –> 00:37:33,700
We’re going to cause a
distraction you guys run up

641
00:37:33,700 –> 00:37:35,500
there with your guns and then
shoot him.

642
00:37:35,700 –> 00:37:39,200
But like if there was like a
modicum of like police

643
00:37:39,200 –> 00:37:42,900
protection, like patting people
down shit when that happened,

644
00:37:43,200 –> 00:37:45,600
right?
And Talmadge hair even says

645
00:37:45,600 –> 00:37:49,100
that, he says, if there had been
a police presence at the door,

646
00:37:49,300 –> 00:37:50,800
they probably wouldn’t have done
this.

647
00:37:51,200 –> 00:37:55,300
No and instead there were Our
two cops on the roof and the

648
00:37:55,300 –> 00:37:59,600
water police anywhere.
So, they threw this, these

649
00:37:59,600 –> 00:38:06,100
documents, they land on William
X Bradley as the person who

650
00:38:06,100 –> 00:38:09,700
fired the shotgun.
And, according to the coroner,

651
00:38:09,700 –> 00:38:12,400
the shotgun is what killed
Malcolm X.

652
00:38:12,400 –> 00:38:17,500
So the, the documentary at least
in terms of the Nation of Islam,

653
00:38:17,500 –> 00:38:22,500
half of things really focuses on
William X bracket.

654
00:38:22,600 –> 00:38:27,600
Lee and Abdul Rahman.
He is a ballsy, dude.

655
00:38:27,700 –> 00:38:30,800
He’s like I want to go find this
guy and I want to talk to him.

656
00:38:31,200 –> 00:38:33,400
Yeah.
And then like, drives by his

657
00:38:33,400 –> 00:38:36,600
house multiple times.
Yeah, he’s like, stalking him a

658
00:38:36,607 –> 00:38:39,200
little bit.
But I wish he would have talked

659
00:38:39,200 –> 00:38:42,800
to him because like I don’t know
how far we can get now.

660
00:38:42,800 –> 00:38:46,800
We’ll wait, boy, but like, yeah,
but it’s just crazy.

661
00:38:46,800 –> 00:38:51,500
It’s just crazy.
How he was like, still alive and

662
00:38:51,500 –> 00:38:53,700
chilling.
For decades.

663
00:38:53,900 –> 00:38:59,200
And he finds out that William X
Bradley has probably changed his

664
00:38:59,200 –> 00:39:04,600
name to a Muslim name and he’s
doing all of this work to try

665
00:39:04,600 –> 00:39:06,100
and figure out what that name
is.

666
00:39:06,100 –> 00:39:09,400
And no one will talk to him.
And then he just has some chance

667
00:39:09,400 –> 00:39:12,800
encounter with someone where
he’s like, hey, do you know

668
00:39:13,600 –> 00:39:16,100
anything about the guy who
killed Malcolm X?

669
00:39:16,300 –> 00:39:19,400
And the person just goes.
Oh yeah, I’ll Mostafa Shabazz.

670
00:39:19,600 –> 00:39:24,100
William X Bradley blurts is
fucking Came out like an old

671
00:39:24,100 –> 00:39:26,200
friend.
I owe you that kind of God’s

672
00:39:26,200 –> 00:39:27,600
Great guys.
Great.

673
00:39:27,700 –> 00:39:30,300
Yeah it runs a boxing gym now.
Yeah.

674
00:39:30,300 –> 00:39:31,800
What do you well what about he
killed?

675
00:39:31,800 –> 00:39:35,500
Malcolm X.
Okay like not even like hiding

676
00:39:35,500 –> 00:39:39,600
it not even like trying to
protect them just like it’s so

677
00:39:39,600 –> 00:39:43,700
yeah that guy’s great.
So abdur Rahman takes this name

678
00:39:43,700 –> 00:39:47,600
back to Newark and starts
throwing it around to those same

679
00:39:47,600 –> 00:39:50,900
people that he had been talking
to before who were like yeah we

680
00:39:51,000 –> 00:39:53,900
know there’s some like
Connection but we don’t talk

681
00:39:53,900 –> 00:39:55,700
about it.
We don’t know anything and he’s

682
00:39:55,700 –> 00:39:59,600
like well what about this guy
and people get very nervous.

683
00:40:00,100 –> 00:40:02,700
Yeah.
Like visibly nervous when he

684
00:40:02,700 –> 00:40:07,000
brings the name up and even
there’s like I think it’s the

685
00:40:07,000 –> 00:40:10,500
current mayor of Newark that
he’s interviewing and even that

686
00:40:10,500 –> 00:40:14,500
guys like leave it alone like we
don’t talk about it.

687
00:40:14,600 –> 00:40:17,600
It’s like you are.
You are the mayor you’re

688
00:40:17,600 –> 00:40:21,500
supposed to talk about things
like that, which just goes back

689
00:40:21,500 –> 00:40:25,000
to like, Your theory of him
working for the FBI and him

690
00:40:25,000 –> 00:40:27,200
being so protected on such a
high level.

691
00:40:27,400 –> 00:40:30,800
Yeah it seems like he was
protected at every level.

692
00:40:30,900 –> 00:40:33,600
Like imagine knowing the dude
who killed Malcolm X is just

693
00:40:33,600 –> 00:40:36,800
living in your community and
you’re like I can’t arrest him.

694
00:40:37,000 –> 00:40:40,700
I can’t I can’t do anything
because you probably couldn’t

695
00:40:40,700 –> 00:40:46,000
like know the the funniest
detail about like this

696
00:40:46,000 –> 00:40:50,500
documentary is worth watching
for this moment alone, which is

697
00:40:50,500 –> 00:40:54,500
when al-mustafa ship.
Whereas turns up in a Cory

698
00:40:54,500 –> 00:40:59,400
Booker campaign video and Cory
Booker is in this documentary

699
00:40:59,400 –> 00:41:02,000
when they first showed him.
I was like what the fuck is Cory

700
00:41:02,000 –> 00:41:03,800
Booker doing here?
Then I remembered he was mayor

701
00:41:03,800 –> 00:41:06,400
of Newark for a long time.
Well but then they’re

702
00:41:06,400 –> 00:41:09,800
interviewing Cory Booker and
they’re like you know Al Mustafa

703
00:41:09,800 –> 00:41:13,400
Shabazz and he’s like oh yeah
Muslim brother lives in lives in

704
00:41:13,400 –> 00:41:15,900
Newark, it’s extra of the
community.

705
00:41:16,000 –> 00:41:19,100
The Sod quebecer are like thank
you.

706
00:41:20,000 –> 00:41:22,300
They’re like, did you know he
may be killed now.

707
00:41:22,500 –> 00:41:26,500
Max Cory.
Booker’s like no, I like it.

708
00:41:26,500 –> 00:41:30,000
You know he’s in why your
campaign videos and then they

709
00:41:30,000 –> 00:41:32,600
show him and they keep
interviewing Cory Booker.

710
00:41:32,600 –> 00:41:36,600
And every time they say killed
Malcolm X, he goes police

711
00:41:36,600 –> 00:41:38,500
allegedly.
Please say allegedly?

712
00:41:40,300 –> 00:41:42,700
Like imagine if Cory Booker was
still in the presidential

713
00:41:42,700 –> 00:41:45,700
campaign right now in that
fucking came out, right?

714
00:41:46,000 –> 00:41:49,300
And he had to know, like he had
to know about this guy,

715
00:41:49,300 –> 00:41:52,300
everybody knew that’s the thing.
Like everyone knew.

716
00:41:52,400 –> 00:41:55,500
New, I meant like everybody.
Everybody’s like you know

717
00:41:55,500 –> 00:41:57,700
there’s a guy that killed
Malcolm X, I think again like a

718
00:41:58,000 –> 00:42:01,200
like a local celebrity like he’s
definitely invited to like

719
00:42:01,200 –> 00:42:04,200
birthday parties and shipping.
I got the guy who killed Malcolm

720
00:42:04,200 –> 00:42:05,200
X.
I couldn’t get you there.

721
00:42:05,200 –> 00:42:08,100
Cover band but I got the guy who
killed Malcolm X is going to

722
00:42:08,107 –> 00:42:10,000
stand in the corner.
And look shady as fuck.

723
00:42:10,400 –> 00:42:14,800
He’s gonna do a tight 15 up top.
Yeah, gonna be a lot of fun.

724
00:42:15,100 –> 00:42:16,600
Yeah.
Like if the current mayor of

725
00:42:16,600 –> 00:42:19,700
Newark knows about that guy.
Cory Booker knew about that guy.

726
00:42:19,800 –> 00:42:22,300
There’s no fucking way everybody
knew.

727
00:42:22,500 –> 00:42:25,900
That guy everybody.
Fucking knew about the dude,

728
00:42:25,900 –> 00:42:28,500
every Islamic leader.
Like oh yeah, that’s the guy.

729
00:42:28,500 –> 00:42:32,500
He’s comes here all the time and
it’s just like nobody gave a

730
00:42:32,508 –> 00:42:35,900
fuck and just shows like the
hypocrisy of being like we love

731
00:42:35,900 –> 00:42:38,200
Malcolm X yet.
We’re super cool with the guy

732
00:42:38,200 –> 00:42:40,300
that killed him.
Yeah.

733
00:42:40,500 –> 00:42:43,300
And it’s like the general
consensus.

734
00:42:43,300 –> 00:42:45,500
Just seems to be well, he’s a
good dude.

735
00:42:45,600 –> 00:42:48,300
He got out of prison in 1998.
He rebuilt his life.

736
00:42:48,300 –> 00:42:51,000
He runs a boxing gym now he’s
like Cuddy from The Wire.

737
00:42:51,300 –> 00:42:54,400
He’s great.
Imagine like being a kid being

738
00:42:54,400 –> 00:42:55,800
like, who taught you how to
fight with a girl?

739
00:42:55,800 –> 00:42:58,200
Killed Malcolm X.
So, like, you know, you’re not

740
00:42:58,200 –> 00:42:59,900
gonna fight that, you’re not
gonna fight that guy.

741
00:43:00,100 –> 00:43:03,500
Definitely not.
And speaking of conspiracies,

742
00:43:03,900 –> 00:43:07,100
since we’re this first half,
we’re just talking about the

743
00:43:07,100 –> 00:43:09,400
Nation of Islam.
Part of this documentary?

744
00:43:09,800 –> 00:43:12,200
Yeah.
How about what happens to

745
00:43:12,200 –> 00:43:16,900
al-mustafa Shabazz?
He dies before Abdul Rahman, can

746
00:43:16,900 –> 00:43:20,600
interview them, he dies.
And look, I get that.

747
00:43:20,600 –> 00:43:23,900
He’s old but That’s crazy
timing.

748
00:43:23,900 –> 00:43:28,900
It’s really interesting timing
that the last living person who

749
00:43:28,900 –> 00:43:32,100
probably could have shed some
light on what happened.

750
00:43:32,200 –> 00:43:35,900
What really happened to Malcolm
X just conveniently dies, right?

751
00:43:35,900 –> 00:43:39,900
Before this documentary gets to
interview them, it’s fucking

752
00:43:39,900 –> 00:43:43,700
insane.
And then like he fucking shows

753
00:43:43,700 –> 00:43:47,100
up to the dudes funeral and
people like oh yeah it’s like a

754
00:43:47,100 –> 00:43:48,800
kill Malcolm X but we got a bear
right now.

755
00:43:49,000 –> 00:43:52,300
Yeah in the fucking lieutenant.
Governor is there, dude?

756
00:43:52,500 –> 00:43:55,900
Yeah, so then he interviews her
about the guy and she’s just

757
00:43:55,900 –> 00:43:58,700
like, you know, I don’t ask too
many questions, man.

758
00:43:58,800 –> 00:44:01,900
I don’t know.
That’s fucking crazy.

759
00:44:02,300 –> 00:44:06,500
So it’s pretty Apparent from
this documentary that by the

760
00:44:06,500 –> 00:44:10,000
most technical terms, the Nation
of Islam killed Malcolm X.

761
00:44:10,200 –> 00:44:16,600
And yes, it was almost certainly
four or five people from the

762
00:44:16,600 –> 00:44:20,400
Newark mosque.
Even though history has said all

763
00:44:20,400 –> 00:44:22,300
of the killers came from the
Harlem mosque.

764
00:44:22,600 –> 00:44:28,400
It seems like those two were
railroaded, and yeah, did not

765
00:44:28,400 –> 00:44:31,600
have anything to do with it.
So that’s one half of the

766
00:44:31,607 –> 00:44:34,200
conspiracy.
Then there’s the police response

767
00:44:34,400 –> 00:44:38,800
and law enforcement’s role in
all this, which I still think

768
00:44:38,800 –> 00:44:42,500
comes down to like that, you
know, like the Good Samaritan

769
00:44:42,500 –> 00:44:45,200
law where if you see someone in
trouble you’re supposed to get

770
00:44:45,200 –> 00:44:46,800
out and help.
Yeah.

771
00:44:47,000 –> 00:44:50,100
Like there should have been some
good Samaritan laws going on

772
00:44:50,200 –> 00:44:54,300
here because the entire ER US
Government knew Malcolm X was

773
00:44:54,300 –> 00:44:57,700
going to die and they were just
like, oh, let’s hope.

774
00:44:57,700 –> 00:45:00,700
Yeah, just watching.
And like a waiting and be like,

775
00:45:00,700 –> 00:45:04,600
oh yeah, fuck it.
Like again, no cops.

776
00:45:04,600 –> 00:45:07,200
They were all hanging.
All two of them were hanging out

777
00:45:07,200 –> 00:45:09,000
in a roof across the street,
right?

778
00:45:09,000 –> 00:45:13,500
And they mention in this
documentary that normally events

779
00:45:13,700 –> 00:45:17,500
like this or events at the
Audubon Ballroom, which was in,

780
00:45:17,500 –> 00:45:22,300
Harlem, by the way, normally,
lots of police show up and like,

781
00:45:22,400 –> 00:45:26,600
I guess that’s just hearsay but
I bet there was a pretty strong

782
00:45:26,600 –> 00:45:30,300
police presence around any group
of a lot of people in Harlem in

783
00:45:30,300 –> 00:45:31,800
the 60s.
Absolutely.

784
00:45:31,800 –> 00:45:34,000
Or even think about it.
Like now writes a, you know,

785
00:45:34,000 –> 00:45:36,900
when you’re a teenager and the
cops busting a party right there

786
00:45:36,900 –> 00:45:41,300
was at least six cops.
Or if you’ve ever been to, like,

787
00:45:41,300 –> 00:45:47,900
go to a rock show at a small
club and then go to a rap show

788
00:45:47,900 –> 00:45:51,900
at that same club and just
absolute note of how many cops

789
00:45:51,900 –> 00:45:54,000
you see.
See, I know whenever I get

790
00:45:54,000 –> 00:45:56,100
pulled over, it’s at least six
cops.

791
00:45:56,300 –> 00:45:59,500
All right.
Like yeah, they only had two own

792
00:45:59,500 –> 00:46:03,800
like the closest you get
furthest possible way place like

793
00:46:03,800 –> 00:46:05,900
they were on a roof across the
street.

794
00:46:06,000 –> 00:46:08,900
So if shit did go down that
after the rundown like eight

795
00:46:08,900 –> 00:46:13,800
flights of steps and then get
there and as we know now some

796
00:46:13,800 –> 00:46:17,600
shit did go down and they didn’t
get there in time.

797
00:46:17,900 –> 00:46:21,000
No.
And they talked about how just

798
00:46:21,000 –> 00:46:24,900
in general when the police Not.
There was no sense of urgency.

799
00:46:25,100 –> 00:46:27,800
It was like they were arriving
to a thing.

800
00:46:27,800 –> 00:46:30,200
They knew was going to happen
and they were just there to

801
00:46:30,200 –> 00:46:32,900
check it out.
Now, they didn’t close off any

802
00:46:32,900 –> 00:46:36,400
of the air like it was it was
just like gross by how, like

803
00:46:36,400 –> 00:46:38,100
blatant.
It was that they did not give a

804
00:46:38,100 –> 00:46:39,100
fuck.
Yeah.

805
00:46:39,100 –> 00:46:42,700
And as you mentioned earlier
they cleaned up the crime scene

806
00:46:42,700 –> 00:46:46,200
immediately after so they could
hold another event at 7:00 that

807
00:46:46,200 –> 00:46:49,200
night.
And they they interview this

808
00:46:49,500 –> 00:46:53,600
district attorney in it.
In the And he’s like I didn’t

809
00:46:53,600 –> 00:46:56,200
see anything there.
That would have swayed my

810
00:46:56,200 –> 00:46:58,800
decision.
It’s like you are the district

811
00:46:58,800 –> 00:47:00,600
attorney.
You’re not a fucking forensic

812
00:47:00,600 –> 00:47:04,600
investigator?
Yeah it was this fucking girls

813
00:47:05,100 –> 00:47:09,500
so there was that they cleaned
up the ballroom, Talmadge hair,

814
00:47:09,600 –> 00:47:12,000
they cut to an interview with
him where he’s like yeah.

815
00:47:12,000 –> 00:47:13,800
If there were just police at the
door we probably wouldn’t have

816
00:47:13,800 –> 00:47:20,300
done it and we sort of mentioned
this earlier but in 1983 this TV

817
00:47:20,300 –> 00:47:25,700
show called like it is.
Gil Noble, they do an episode on

818
00:47:25,900 –> 00:47:28,600
the assassination of Malcolm X
and they go back to the Audubon

819
00:47:28,600 –> 00:47:31,800
Ballroom which had been shut
down for years by then and in

820
00:47:31,808 –> 00:47:34,200
the fucking basement, they find
the podium.

821
00:47:34,200 –> 00:47:37,900
Malcolm X was talking at just
riddled with bullet holes.

822
00:47:38,100 –> 00:47:42,800
Yeah, still Edge Chillin.
It’s like, how is that not in

823
00:47:42,800 –> 00:47:46,800
police evidence somewhere?
Like, did they investigate this

824
00:47:46,800 –> 00:47:50,700
at all?
Or even like a museum, right?

825
00:47:50,700 –> 00:47:52,200
Cousin of the Unabomber his
cabin.

826
00:47:52,300 –> 00:47:53,900
In a museum.
Oh yeah.

827
00:47:54,100 –> 00:47:57,500
Yeah, my second thought after
why don’t the police have this

828
00:47:57,500 –> 00:48:00,000
is you should take that the Pawn
Stars.

829
00:48:02,000 –> 00:48:03,500
Let’s see what you can get for
that.

830
00:48:03,600 –> 00:48:05,600
But then pain sellers, would
have brought him like Abdul

831
00:48:05,600 –> 00:48:09,200
Rahman because he’s the premier
Malcolm X expert and he would

832
00:48:09,200 –> 00:48:12,800
have graded, its value exactly.
So this is just cut out the

833
00:48:12,808 –> 00:48:15,900
middleman upon Stars.
Yeah, he would have probably

834
00:48:15,900 –> 00:48:19,000
bought it.
You could just it’s probably

835
00:48:19,000 –> 00:48:20,100
his.
I was it should at least be in

836
00:48:20,100 –> 00:48:23,900
this guy’s house.
So the Fact that Podium is there

837
00:48:23,900 –> 00:48:28,400
speaks directly to what kind of
investigative work went into the

838
00:48:28,400 –> 00:48:34,100
death of Malcolm X and they talk
about the fire bombing that

839
00:48:34,100 –> 00:48:37,500
happened.
And in the days after that fire

840
00:48:37,500 –> 00:48:42,100
bombing happened, it turned out
the NYPD was like feeding

841
00:48:42,100 –> 00:48:47,200
information to reporters off the
Record basically saying, yeah we

842
00:48:47,200 –> 00:48:50,600
think maybe he did this himself
which is absurd.

843
00:48:50,700 –> 00:48:54,600
Yeah, like Malcolm X.
X was rendered homeless by that

844
00:48:54,600 –> 00:48:58,200
fire bombing.
And he had several kids that he

845
00:48:58,200 –> 00:49:01,700
seemed to care a whole lot about
there’s no fucking way.

846
00:49:01,700 –> 00:49:05,500
He would have firebombed his own
house and what they were doing

847
00:49:05,500 –> 00:49:09,000
was kind of putting it out there
that he doesn’t really need to

848
00:49:09,008 –> 00:49:11,200
be protected.
He’s just sort of making all

849
00:49:11,200 –> 00:49:14,400
this up throughout these
documentary and some backstory

850
00:49:14,400 –> 00:49:19,900
Malcolm X like really good dude.
Oh yeah like you said some

851
00:49:19,900 –> 00:49:23,300
controversial things but was
always like a My man and like

852
00:49:23,300 –> 00:49:25,500
really cared deeply about his
family.

853
00:49:26,000 –> 00:49:29,700
Yeah, he cared deeply about his
family and he cared deeply about

854
00:49:29,700 –> 00:49:35,000
his people and yeah like this
was at a time when like things

855
00:49:35,000 –> 00:49:38,100
still aren’t great for black
people in this country

856
00:49:38,100 –> 00:49:41,600
especially as it pertains to
treatment from the police.

857
00:49:41,800 –> 00:49:45,000
But it was really off the chain
back then.

858
00:49:45,200 –> 00:49:48,000
Yeah.
And there needed to be a Malcolm

859
00:49:48,000 –> 00:49:53,700
X like Malcolm X was mandatory
like R needed to be that kind of

860
00:49:53,700 –> 00:49:56,300
presence for black people in the
country at the time.

861
00:49:56,400 –> 00:49:59,100
And I think the government knew
that and I think they fucking

862
00:49:59,100 –> 00:50:02,700
let him die over it.
Yeah, I know absolutely death

863
00:50:02,700 –> 00:50:04,500
row, at least gave, it
definitely, gave it to green

864
00:50:04,500 –> 00:50:06,800
light like, fucking do this shit
for us, please.

865
00:50:07,100 –> 00:50:10,800
Yeah, one of the saddest moments
in this documentary.

866
00:50:10,800 –> 00:50:13,900
They’re interviewing this cop
named Tony Boozer.

867
00:50:14,100 –> 00:50:19,600
Who seems like he sort of
regrets what happened back then

868
00:50:19,600 –> 00:50:24,400
but you know, fuck, you still Of
the things he says, is that the

869
00:50:24,400 –> 00:50:29,800
NYPD was surveilling Malcolm X.
So, heavily that they knew he

870
00:50:29,800 –> 00:50:34,000
needed to be protected from the
Nation of Islam and he was like,

871
00:50:34,000 –> 00:50:36,700
but we couldn’t afford it, we
had it would have been all this

872
00:50:36,700 –> 00:50:38,500
overtime and we couldn’t afford
it.

873
00:50:38,600 –> 00:50:43,000
So what they did is this is some
really cynical shit.

874
00:50:43,000 –> 00:50:46,700
They approached Malcolm X and
were like hey do you want

875
00:50:46,700 –> 00:50:49,600
protection from us?
Knowing he would say no.

876
00:50:49,800 –> 00:50:52,100
Yeah.
And once he said no, they got

877
00:50:52,300 –> 00:50:55,000
Him to sign a thing saying he
refused protection and they were

878
00:50:55,000 –> 00:50:56,800
like, all right.
Good luck.

879
00:50:57,000 –> 00:51:00,500
Which that’s not how it’s
supposed to work.

880
00:51:01,000 –> 00:51:02,800
No.
Like the police are just

881
00:51:02,800 –> 00:51:06,800
supposed to protect you.
I mean we know they don’t but

882
00:51:06,800 –> 00:51:11,800
no, but it was just a man.
It’s just it’s all just so

883
00:51:11,800 –> 00:51:14,800
fucked up and just how
everybody’s openly admit again.

884
00:51:15,000 –> 00:51:16,000
Yeah.
What?

885
00:51:16,000 –> 00:51:19,000
Really blows my mind about that
over time.

886
00:51:19,000 –> 00:51:22,200
Claim is well you were running a
whole separate.

887
00:51:22,400 –> 00:51:26,700
Division of the NYPD called the
red Squad which was just

888
00:51:26,800 –> 00:51:29,700
tailing.
Malcolm X everywhere, he went

889
00:51:29,800 –> 00:51:33,700
and taking pictures and
documenting his movements and

890
00:51:33,700 –> 00:51:38,200
it’s like maybe if you weren’t
spying on him you could have

891
00:51:38,200 –> 00:51:42,900
transferred those resources into
protecting him perhaps it’s a

892
00:51:42,908 –> 00:51:46,300
little bit.
Yeah I mean I’m no budget expert

893
00:51:46,300 –> 00:51:48,700
but seems like that might have
worked and yeah they did.

894
00:51:48,700 –> 00:51:53,100
They had this squad this
division of the The NYPD that

895
00:51:53,100 –> 00:51:57,300
was basically like a little FBI
called the red Squad and there’s

896
00:51:57,300 –> 00:52:00,800
a really great scene where this
reporter is yelling at someone

897
00:52:00,800 –> 00:52:04,900
on the roof of a building near
one of Malcolm X’s events.

898
00:52:05,200 –> 00:52:07,700
And he goes who are you with the
police?

899
00:52:08,000 –> 00:52:11,800
And then he just starts yelling
red Squad.

900
00:52:12,000 –> 00:52:15,300
Wow them out.
Yeah, and the guy just the cop

901
00:52:15,300 –> 00:52:18,300
just like Smiles a little and
does the the shush thing with

902
00:52:18,300 –> 00:52:22,500
his finger it’s like it was what
one of the things As they

903
00:52:22,500 –> 00:52:27,100
mention a couple times in this
documentary is yes, Malcolm X

904
00:52:27,400 –> 00:52:30,200
knew.
He was being watched by the FBI

905
00:52:30,200 –> 00:52:34,500
and monitored, but he thought it
was happening in a really open

906
00:52:34,600 –> 00:52:39,600
and obvious way like stuff like
that when it turns out it was so

907
00:52:39,600 –> 00:52:43,500
much deeper than that.
Yeah, it’s all just so crazy

908
00:52:43,500 –> 00:52:48,200
about how they were able to get
so close so easily.

909
00:52:48,300 –> 00:52:52,400
Yeah, they we sort of mentioned
this earlier, like, well, well,

910
00:52:52,500 –> 00:52:56,000
we should mention the, there’s a
Hoover, A J, Edgar Hoover quote,

911
00:52:56,000 –> 00:53:00,200
which yeah, I think has become
pretty famous in relation to

912
00:53:00,200 –> 00:53:03,200
Malcolm X.
And it’s from an FBI document

913
00:53:03,200 –> 00:53:06,600
where he literally says, we need
to do something about all this

914
00:53:06,600 –> 00:53:10,200
black violence.
Do something about Malcolm X and

915
00:53:10,200 –> 00:53:13,200
then it also said in another
document that he wanted to

916
00:53:13,200 –> 00:53:16,400
prevent the rise of a black
Messiah.

917
00:53:16,600 –> 00:53:22,100
So the FBI was really intent on
stopping Malcolm.

918
00:53:22,700 –> 00:53:24,500
And what they did they didn’t
have there.

919
00:53:24,500 –> 00:53:29,200
Were there were no black FBI
agents at the time which shocker

920
00:53:29,300 –> 00:53:30,800
even.
Yeah, kind of.

921
00:53:30,800 –> 00:53:32,900
But it seems like just a
sarcastic.

922
00:53:32,900 –> 00:53:34,000
It makes the most amount of
sense.

923
00:53:34,000 –> 00:53:36,600
Yeah.
Like for business reasons, if

924
00:53:36,600 –> 00:53:41,200
nothing else like it was true it
would make your job a lot easier

925
00:53:41,200 –> 00:53:44,200
to just have black FBI agents
but they didn’t.

926
00:53:44,200 –> 00:53:48,000
So they went and they would just
approach people on the street

927
00:53:48,000 –> 00:53:51,500
and round them up as informants
and have them.

928
00:53:52,200 –> 00:53:55,400
Wait the Nation of Islam and one
of the people that they did this

929
00:53:55,400 –> 00:54:00,700
with a guy named jean-robert’s
ends up Rising all the way to

930
00:54:00,800 –> 00:54:04,800
the point of being Malcolm X’s
head of security.

931
00:54:05,000 –> 00:54:10,000
Yeah there’s a picture from the
assassination.

932
00:54:10,000 –> 00:54:13,000
Where you see this guy really
prominently as names

933
00:54:13,000 –> 00:54:17,200
jean-robert’s in that picture he
looks like fucking Morris Day in

934
00:54:17,200 –> 00:54:23,900
super-sharp Purple Rain.
Yeah, he looks great. and he was

935
00:54:23,900 –> 00:54:30,000
as it turns out put in place by
the NYPD and was part of this

936
00:54:30,500 –> 00:54:33,800
group that worked with the FBI
called The Bureau of special

937
00:54:33,800 –> 00:54:38,900
services and one of the craziest
moments is when he talks about

938
00:54:38,900 –> 00:54:43,000
being there and seeing all of
this and the shooting happens

939
00:54:43,200 –> 00:54:47,000
and he ends up giving Malcolm X
mouth-to-mouth to try and save

940
00:54:47,000 –> 00:54:52,000
his life and then gets back to
his office and his superiors are

941
00:54:52,200 –> 00:54:54,300
Like hey why’d you try and save
that guy?

942
00:54:54,400 –> 00:54:56,600
He’s a bad guy.
You’re supposed to let him die

943
00:54:56,700 –> 00:54:58,400
and he’s like I don’t know.
I’m a cop.

944
00:54:58,500 –> 00:55:03,600
I thought my job is to save
people and it’s like that’s what

945
00:55:03,600 –> 00:55:06,300
when that cop.
They interview says Malcolm X

946
00:55:06,300 –> 00:55:10,800
didn’t realize how closely we
were watching him like his

947
00:55:10,800 –> 00:55:15,500
number to the person.
He would probably trust most to

948
00:55:15,500 –> 00:55:17,100
protect him.
Yeah.

949
00:55:17,100 –> 00:55:21,600
Was working for the fucking FBI
but also again he was working

950
00:55:21,600 –> 00:55:24,100
for the FBI.
It’s still again, try to protect

951
00:55:24,100 –> 00:55:27,800
them.
Yeah he is also one of the

952
00:55:27,800 –> 00:55:30,600
people who helped slow Talmadge
hair down.

953
00:55:30,700 –> 00:55:37,800
He hit him with a chair that
which is fucking crazy, like six

954
00:55:37,800 –> 00:55:41,000
inductive type shit.
And they interview this FBI

955
00:55:41,000 –> 00:55:44,700
agent named Arthur Fulton in the
documentary.

956
00:55:44,700 –> 00:55:50,300
He says they had nine informants
in the audience at the Audubon

957
00:55:50,300 –> 00:55:55,100
Ballroom that day.
And it seems like the FBI just

958
00:55:55,200 –> 00:55:59,700
kind of, always knew exactly
what happened to Malcolm X.

959
00:55:59,900 –> 00:56:03,600
Yeah, and they were just willing
to let two other people go to

960
00:56:03,600 –> 00:56:08,400
prison for it because their
files, they they have a picture

961
00:56:08,700 –> 00:56:13,500
of the man who shot Malcolm X.
They have a description of the

962
00:56:13,508 –> 00:56:16,200
man who shot Malcolm X.
Like we mentioned, he’s in the

963
00:56:16,200 –> 00:56:21,300
video, he’s so putting them down
in his jacket and then walking

964
00:56:21,300 –> 00:56:22,000
away.
Cool.

965
00:56:22,400 –> 00:56:26,400
Like this, the most confident,
strut, like everyone walking

966
00:56:26,400 –> 00:56:28,800
away from a crime.
The way that guy was walking

967
00:56:28,800 –> 00:56:30,600
away, did it?
Yeah.

968
00:56:30,700 –> 00:56:33,000
Like did it and he wasn’t going
to get caught.

969
00:56:33,000 –> 00:56:34,500
Yeah.
Like who wouldn’t stay and check

970
00:56:34,500 –> 00:56:37,300
that out?
Like, if they’re feeding the guy

971
00:56:37,300 –> 00:56:39,900
who just shot Malcolm X and
you’re like, what?

972
00:56:39,900 –> 00:56:41,600
Well I gotta beat traffic.
I’m trying.

973
00:56:41,600 –> 00:56:44,300
I’m trying to catch train like
no, you’re going to fucking hang

974
00:56:44,300 –> 00:56:46,400
out.
He walked off like it was like

975
00:56:46,400 –> 00:56:49,600
Ken Griffey when he hits a homer
back in the 90s, he just did a

976
00:56:49,607 –> 00:56:51,700
backflip and just fucking
strutted.

977
00:56:52,500 –> 00:56:56,500
Flip this shotgun.
Yeah IntelliJ airs getting the

978
00:56:56,500 –> 00:56:59,000
shit kicked out of him.
And he just stayed in his face.

979
00:56:59,000 –> 00:57:03,600
Like hey, there’s body is not on
the ground but he’s floating

980
00:57:03,600 –> 00:57:06,200
like three feet in the air just
from fists and feet.

981
00:57:06,300 –> 00:57:10,700
Yeah, it’s crazy.
And yeah they find these FBI

982
00:57:10,700 –> 00:57:14,400
Files.
More FBI files that have a

983
00:57:14,400 –> 00:57:17,300
picture of the guy who fired the
shotgun.

984
00:57:17,400 –> 00:57:22,900
They named him as the shooter
and then, On a few different

985
00:57:22,900 –> 00:57:26,100
occasions in those files there.
Like, by the way, don’t tell the

986
00:57:26,100 –> 00:57:34,200
NYPD which they’re really can
only be one reason why the FBI

987
00:57:34,200 –> 00:57:38,200
would not want the NYPD to know
the name of the actual killer

988
00:57:38,300 –> 00:57:41,000
and that’s if the FBI’s
protecting him for some reason.

989
00:57:41,100 –> 00:57:44,000
Absolutely.
And why would they be protecting

990
00:57:44,000 –> 00:57:46,700
him?
Maybe he was an FBI agent or

991
00:57:46,700 –> 00:57:50,000
maybe he was an informant or
maybe they just got to him and

992
00:57:50,000 –> 00:57:53,600
sent an informant in.
And put it in this guy’s ear,

993
00:57:53,600 –> 00:57:57,600
that he should probably kill
Malcolm X and he did it, and the

994
00:57:57,600 –> 00:58:00,200
FBI got away with it.
They got away with it and they

995
00:58:00,200 –> 00:58:01,500
should have Islam, got away with
it.

996
00:58:01,500 –> 00:58:04,600
The only people who didn’t
impersonal, really didn’t get

997
00:58:04,600 –> 00:58:06,700
away with it and deservedly so
is hair.

998
00:58:07,100 –> 00:58:09,200
But that’s because, again, he
was dumb enough to get caught.

999
00:58:09,300 –> 00:58:12,000
Yeah, he was too slow.
He was too slow.

1000
00:58:12,000 –> 00:58:17,000
Also, like everybody’s aim was
fucking awful except for the

1001
00:58:17,008 –> 00:58:20,000
shotgun guy.
Yeah, they talk about how he

1002
00:58:20,000 –> 00:58:24,900
fired from the hip, which is
Only a thing experts do when

1003
00:58:24,900 –> 00:58:27,900
they’re shooting a shotgun, like
you have to really know how to

1004
00:58:27,900 –> 00:58:31,300
shoot to shoot the way that that
guy was shooting.

1005
00:58:31,400 –> 00:58:34,500
There’s only like, what, like
there’s like 40 or 50 bullets

1006
00:58:34,700 –> 00:58:37,800
that hit the walls in Podium but
only the shotgun blast is what

1007
00:58:37,800 –> 00:58:39,000
got them.
Yeah.

1008
00:58:39,100 –> 00:58:44,200
Like fucking Storm Troopers and
it ends up being convenient for

1009
00:58:44,200 –> 00:58:48,000
the purposes of this documentary
because Bradley was the only

1010
00:58:48,000 –> 00:58:51,900
person still alive like the
other other conspirators had

1011
00:58:51,900 –> 00:58:54,200
all.
Oh, been rumored to have died

1012
00:58:54,400 –> 00:59:01,000
and it’s so frustrating that
this ends with him just missing

1013
00:59:01,000 –> 00:59:04,700
his chance to confront William
Bradley.

1014
00:59:04,900 –> 00:59:09,700
And it’s just, I honestly feel
like the nation in the FBI like

1015
00:59:09,700 –> 00:59:12,700
went hand-in-hand with us now
then like control the cops.

1016
00:59:13,000 –> 00:59:15,800
I think everybody was in on this
to get them.

1017
00:59:15,900 –> 00:59:18,100
If it’s just honestly, I feel
like it just there’s no other

1018
00:59:18,100 –> 00:59:21,000
way, right?
Yeah, I mean, I feel the same

1019
00:59:21,000 –> 00:59:25,400
way about JFK Like there’s you
see the same thing with the JFK

1020
00:59:25,400 –> 00:59:29,100
assassination where it’s like,
where were the police?

1021
00:59:29,100 –> 00:59:32,600
There were like there should
have been police everywhere and

1022
00:59:32,600 –> 00:59:37,800
they there weren’t and it’s like
that can only lead a person to

1023
00:59:37,800 –> 00:59:41,000
think law enforcement knew that
something was going to happen

1024
00:59:41,000 –> 00:59:42,900
and that they shouldn’t be
there.

1025
00:59:43,000 –> 00:59:45,400
I mean the more you talk about
JFK and this whole era of

1026
00:59:45,400 –> 00:59:49,200
killings that seems to be how
the government assassinates

1027
00:59:49,200 –> 00:59:51,900
people like their textbook brand
or like you.

1028
00:59:52,100 –> 00:59:53,900
What I mean?
Like, that’s just the play they

1029
00:59:53,900 –> 00:59:56,700
go with, like, that’s their
fucking, that’s their Slants

1030
00:59:56,700 –> 01:00:00,400
play, like, that’s just their go
to and how to kill people is get

1031
01:00:00,700 –> 01:00:04,600
the dividing groups involved in
it and then just have them do it

1032
01:00:04,600 –> 01:00:06,100
while they facilitate everything
else.

1033
01:00:06,300 –> 01:00:07,900
Yeah.
And it I think it’s pretty

1034
01:00:07,900 –> 01:00:09,700
obvious.
That’s what happened with

1035
01:00:09,700 –> 01:00:12,000
Malcolm X.
And that like that’s that’s best

1036
01:00:12,000 –> 01:00:15,100
case scenario because worst case
scenario is just that the FBI in

1037
01:00:15,100 –> 01:00:18,100
the Nation of Islam work
together to make this happen.

1038
01:00:18,400 –> 01:00:21,300
Yeah.
What they probably did.

1039
01:00:21,700 –> 01:00:24,100
Yeah.
It feels like there had to be

1040
01:00:24,100 –> 01:00:28,500
some level of collaboration on
their part but it’s Granite

1041
01:00:28,500 –> 01:00:32,300
again it’s crazy how all this
evidence was just out there and

1042
01:00:32,300 –> 01:00:34,000
like, no one gave a fuck.
Yeah.

1043
01:00:34,000 –> 01:00:38,300
And it’s still out there.
Like if nothing else they could

1044
01:00:38,500 –> 01:00:42,900
maybe clear Norman butler’s
name, like he’s still alive and

1045
01:00:42,900 –> 01:00:46,900
out and living as one of the
killers of Malcolm X.

1046
01:00:47,200 –> 01:00:50,300
Which I think one thing they’re
going to do it, they reopened

1047
01:00:50,300 –> 01:00:52,200
the case recently, right?
Right.

1048
01:00:52,200 –> 01:00:54,400
So they’re definitely gonna, at
least try to clear that guy’s

1049
01:00:54,400 –> 01:00:56,700
name because that really fucked
up his life.

1050
01:00:56,700 –> 01:00:59,300
Like I know he was against
Malcolm X and went through like

1051
01:00:59,300 –> 01:01:01,400
a revolutionary phase in the
sixties whatever.

1052
01:01:01,600 –> 01:01:04,800
But dude, serves 20 years lost
his family.

1053
01:01:05,000 –> 01:01:07,900
Like still a Muslim, by the way,
which is kind of, fucking

1054
01:01:07,900 –> 01:01:08,900
impressive.
Yeah.

1055
01:01:08,900 –> 01:01:10,400
And it looks like it’s working
out for him.

1056
01:01:10,400 –> 01:01:14,100
Holy shit dude, looks fucking
great.

1057
01:01:14,300 –> 01:01:16,800
Like, it’s crazy.
Yeah, it is.

1058
01:01:16,800 –> 01:01:20,300
It’s just such a, it’s a
disappointing ending to the

1059
01:01:20,300 –> 01:01:22,400
documentary.
It reminds me of There’s a

1060
01:01:22,408 –> 01:01:25,800
documentary called I think it’s
just called Edward, Wayne

1061
01:01:25,800 –> 01:01:30,400
Edwards, but this guy Edward
Wayne Edwards killed.

1062
01:01:30,400 –> 01:01:34,200
A lot of people.
And one of his kids is convinced

1063
01:01:34,200 –> 01:01:39,000
that he is the Zodiac Killer.
And he actually makes a really

1064
01:01:39,000 –> 01:01:42,500
strong case that his dad was the
Zodiac Killer.

1065
01:01:42,700 –> 01:01:46,500
And at the end of the
documentary, they have Edward

1066
01:01:46,500 –> 01:01:51,000
Wayne Edwards DNA.
And we know the San Francisco PD

1067
01:01:51,000 –> 01:01:55,500
has the zodiac Killers DNA, and
it ends with them trying

1068
01:01:55,500 –> 01:01:58,400
desperately to get San Francisco
PD.

1069
01:01:58,400 –> 01:02:02,600
To just compare these two DNA
samples, to see if they’re

1070
01:02:02,600 –> 01:02:05,000
right, and it never fucking
happens.

1071
01:02:05,300 –> 01:02:09,800
And I think it’s because they
know they, let the Zodiac Killer

1072
01:02:09,800 –> 01:02:12,300
get away and that he killed more
people.

1073
01:02:12,300 –> 01:02:15,800
I think the Zodiac Killer in the
Atlanta child murderer were the

1074
01:02:15,800 –> 01:02:17,200
same person.
Really?

1075
01:02:17,400 –> 01:02:19,300
Yeah.
The watch that Edward Edward,

1076
01:02:19,300 –> 01:02:22,400
Wayne Edwards documentary.
I think it’s on, Three?

1077
01:02:22,600 –> 01:02:23,800
What a snitch of a kid.
What?

1078
01:02:23,800 –> 01:02:26,000
A fucking snitch of a kid.
Yeah.

1079
01:02:26,000 –> 01:02:28,200
No shit.
Yeah, right, why is this on your

1080
01:02:28,200 –> 01:02:30,300
dad?
That’s however, when Edwards

1081
01:02:30,300 –> 01:02:33,400
finally got arrested, his
daughter, turned him in for a

1082
01:02:33,400 –> 01:02:36,200
crime that she has.
Like, she just like started

1083
01:02:36,200 –> 01:02:40,100
thinking about how weird her dad
was and started Googling cold

1084
01:02:40,100 –> 01:02:43,000
cases, from where they used to
live, like all the places they

1085
01:02:43,000 –> 01:02:47,000
lived and she found one and was
like, I bet my dad did that and

1086
01:02:47,000 –> 01:02:50,200
sure enough he did.
But the documentary ends with us

1087
01:02:50,600 –> 01:02:53,100
still not knowing if he’s this
The Zodiac Killer.

1088
01:02:53,200 –> 01:02:55,600
I just wish they didn’t spend a
whole episode on him like

1089
01:02:55,600 –> 01:02:58,800
driving by the dudes house.
Yeah, the last episode seemed

1090
01:02:58,800 –> 01:03:01,900
kind of pointless, like, he was
just a go, fucking talk to the

1091
01:03:01,900 –> 01:03:03,600
guy.
Yeah, I mean, he was probably a

1092
01:03:03,600 –> 01:03:07,800
little nervous.
Like someone getting that much

1093
01:03:07,800 –> 01:03:10,700
protection for a crime that big
like.

1094
01:03:11,400 –> 01:03:14,200
That’s why I still like when he
dies in the documentary, I’m

1095
01:03:14,200 –> 01:03:17,800
like, all right, who did it?
Yeah, because it could have been

1096
01:03:17,800 –> 01:03:20,100
the Nation of Islam could have
killed him to do.

1097
01:03:20,100 –> 01:03:21,900
They ever say how he just died
in his sleep?

1098
01:03:22,500 –> 01:03:26,100
Yeah they just say he died they
don’t say how it happened.

1099
01:03:26,400 –> 01:03:28,600
Oh someone definitely fucking
kill that guy.

1100
01:03:28,700 –> 01:03:31,800
Yeah yeah that that was like
that was my first thought like

1101
01:03:31,800 –> 01:03:36,200
whenever like there’s that Kurt
Cobain documentary from like 10

1102
01:03:36,200 –> 01:03:40,000
or 15 years ago where this guy
named El duche is like yeah

1103
01:03:40,000 –> 01:03:42,300
Courtney Love offered me 25,000
dollars to kill.

1104
01:03:42,300 –> 01:03:45,800
Kurt Cobain and then that guy
got hit by a train three days

1105
01:03:45,800 –> 01:03:47,600
later.
What?

1106
01:03:47,800 –> 01:03:54,100
Yeah, so like it’s weird how
like, not Just how many weird

1107
01:03:54,100 –> 01:03:56,300
murders and assassinations are
out there.

1108
01:03:56,600 –> 01:04:00,100
But then all these documentaries
where, oh, what a coincidence,

1109
01:04:00,100 –> 01:04:02,900
that in three of these
high-profile documentaries.

1110
01:04:03,200 –> 01:04:07,200
Someone dies before anyone can
find anything out, or the

1111
01:04:07,200 –> 01:04:10,600
authorities won’t do anything to
investigate it, it’s like it’s

1112
01:04:10,600 –> 01:04:13,000
cover up.
No, but it really, like, you’re

1113
01:04:13,000 –> 01:04:16,400
really fucking, is everybody
knew he did it.

1114
01:04:16,400 –> 01:04:17,900
Oh yeah.
Everybody fucking new.

1115
01:04:17,900 –> 01:04:19,300
We did it.
Yeah.

1116
01:04:19,400 –> 01:04:23,700
And he’s in Cory Booker’s 2010.
Re-election campaign video.

1117
01:04:24,100 –> 01:04:26,400
If you want to go see him for
yourself, people should

1118
01:04:26,400 –> 01:04:29,100
definitely watch this
documentary especially with

1119
01:04:29,100 –> 01:04:32,600
everyone being shut in.
Yeah, you got six we all have

1120
01:04:32,600 –> 01:04:34,100
six hours ago.
Yeah.

1121
01:04:34,100 –> 01:04:36,600
I mean the episodes are only
like 45 minutes each so it’s not

1122
01:04:36,600 –> 01:04:39,200
even six hours.
You got time to watch tiger,

1123
01:04:39,200 –> 01:04:41,200
man.
You got time to find out who

1124
01:04:41,200 –> 01:04:43,600
killed Malcolm X for real.
That’s why it was funny when you

1125
01:04:43,600 –> 01:04:46,500
hit me up like are you free to
do this on my God I’m on house

1126
01:04:46,500 –> 01:04:47,600
arrest.
Yeah I can do this.

1127
01:04:48,000 –> 01:04:50,800
Yeah we’re all free to do
whatever we want except yeah I

1128
01:04:50,808 –> 01:04:53,400
believe that’s true.
True and even then it’s fucking

1129
01:04:53,400 –> 01:04:54,500
sad.
And again, if you order

1130
01:04:54,500 –> 01:04:58,800
Postmates or do takeout, please
tip those people like the love

1131
01:04:58,800 –> 01:05:02,300
be stingy fuck like at least
give them a like a solid tip.

1132
01:05:02,300 –> 01:05:06,100
And yeah I wrote a bleed the
other day and I tip nine dollars

1133
01:05:06,300 –> 01:05:09,300
just because it’s like it’s
impressive that you’re still out

1134
01:05:09,300 –> 01:05:11,400
doing that.
Yeah look I got to take out your

1135
01:05:11,400 –> 01:05:12,800
shoes.
I gave a good luck, 20 spot for

1136
01:05:12,800 –> 01:05:14,900
the tip.
Yeah, I was like, thank you,

1137
01:05:14,900 –> 01:05:16,100
thank you for fucking doing
this.

1138
01:05:16,100 –> 01:05:18,400
Thank you for your service.
That’s what we’re going to be

1139
01:05:18,400 –> 01:05:21,600
saying that to fucking hospital
and food workers when this is

1140
01:05:21,600 –> 01:05:23,200
all over.
Dude word.

1141
01:05:23,300 –> 01:05:27,300
Yeah, I just hope this like
brings people together, even

1142
01:05:27,300 –> 01:05:30,100
though it probably isn’t right?
We’re fucked.

1143
01:05:30,100 –> 01:05:31,800
What kind of fucked.
Oh, we’re super fuck.

1144
01:05:31,800 –> 01:05:36,100
Did you secret Trump wants to
suspend habeas corpus, and be

1145
01:05:36,100 –> 01:05:38,600
able to detain people
indefinitely, without charging

1146
01:05:38,600 –> 01:05:42,400
them, during all of this or
entitle Civil Disobedience.

1147
01:05:42,700 –> 01:05:46,000
Yeah, they’re trying to Ram that
through while we’re all panicked

1148
01:05:46,000 –> 01:05:48,100
and indoors.
Jesus.

1149
01:05:48,400 –> 01:05:50,300
Yep, it’s pretty fucking
intense.

1150
01:05:50,500 –> 01:05:54,300
And it seems Like we’re
wandering off course but I think

1151
01:05:54,300 –> 01:05:57,800
this is all fucking relates to
the assassination of Malcolm X.

1152
01:05:57,800 –> 01:06:02,100
Like just stop having so much
faith in this country, like

1153
01:06:02,100 –> 01:06:06,700
exists that this country is
fucking bad and needs to be

1154
01:06:06,700 –> 01:06:09,600
fixed and we’ll all get along a
lot better.

1155
01:06:10,300 –> 01:06:14,600
Like this country will put its
own self interests before the

1156
01:06:14,600 –> 01:06:16,900
people’s.
So like if they want to keep

1157
01:06:16,900 –> 01:06:19,300
something this ecstatic.
Whoa, are they?

1158
01:06:19,400 –> 01:06:21,900
They will fuck whomever, they
have to, to get it.

1159
01:06:22,400 –> 01:06:25,000
Yeah.
And the assassination of Malcolm

1160
01:06:25,000 –> 01:06:28,300
X is a great example of that.
Like they’re there would have

1161
01:06:28,300 –> 01:06:32,600
been a revolution in this
country if he was allowed to

1162
01:06:32,600 –> 01:06:37,400
live and carry out the work he
was doing yeah government’s not

1163
01:06:37,400 –> 01:06:39,900
going to stand for that.
Also again throat is document.

1164
01:06:39,900 –> 01:06:41,500
I feel kind of bad for Abdul
Rahman.

1165
01:06:41,700 –> 01:06:44,300
Psyche gave up like his whole
life for this.

1166
01:06:44,500 –> 01:06:47,300
Yeah and it even had like the
most disappointing ending was

1167
01:06:47,300 –> 01:06:49,700
like fuck.
Like I lost my family to this.

1168
01:06:49,700 –> 01:06:53,200
I finally figured it out and
like Fuck, no one really cares.

1169
01:06:53,400 –> 01:06:56,700
Yeah, nothing happens like that.
That’s what happened with the

1170
01:06:56,700 –> 01:06:59,400
JFK guy.
He did like all these years of

1171
01:06:59,400 –> 01:07:03,400
research and then released a
book in the 70s and was like,

1172
01:07:03,700 –> 01:07:06,100
here we go.
The World’s Gonna know the truth

1173
01:07:06,200 –> 01:07:10,000
and the world didn’t give a shit
man, depressing.

1174
01:07:10,200 –> 01:07:13,000
It’s so fucking sad.
Anyway, I hope we cheered

1175
01:07:13,000 –> 01:07:17,200
everyone at home.
Little bit light-hearted episode

1176
01:07:17,200 –> 01:07:21,100
about extrajudicial killing by
the US government.

1177
01:07:21,100 –> 01:07:22,600
Got him so sad.
It’s going to go.

1178
01:07:23,300 –> 01:07:25,700
Sit obviously here and be sad.
No, thank you.

1179
01:07:25,700 –> 01:07:26,700
I can’t even do anything.
Yeah.

1180
01:07:26,700 –> 01:07:29,400
There’s not literally nothing.
We can do.

1181
01:07:29,700 –> 01:07:33,100
We just have to, we’ll turn our
recorders off and then go back

1182
01:07:33,100 –> 01:07:36,000
to the couches and be sad.
Yeah.

1183
01:07:36,100 –> 01:07:40,800
What a time to be alive, man.
So that’s our episode.

1184
01:07:40,800 –> 01:07:46,200
Watch the documentary who killed
Malcolm X for a lot more detail.

1185
01:07:46,200 –> 01:07:49,600
This podcast is going to be like
an hour-long that documentaries

1186
01:07:49,600 –> 01:07:51,800
way longer.
It’s fucking six.

1187
01:07:52,100 –> 01:07:56,100
And I think it does a really
good job of laying out what

1188
01:07:56,100 –> 01:08:00,400
actually happened to Malcolm X
and who was responsible for it

1189
01:08:00,500 –> 01:08:04,400
even if they never get to talk
to the guy and I think it’s like

1190
01:08:04,400 –> 01:08:08,300
I like to end these things by by
saying if I believe this

1191
01:08:08,300 –> 01:08:11,800
conspiracy or not.
And this one very much this the

1192
01:08:12,200 –> 01:08:15,100
yeah, I feel like there’s more
of a conspiracy that we’re not

1193
01:08:15,100 –> 01:08:18,700
even hearing about, but just
whatever is presented in.

1194
01:08:18,707 –> 01:08:21,800
This documentary is at at the
very least.

1195
01:08:22,300 –> 01:08:24,700
That’s all true.
Yeah, look, what can be the

1196
01:08:24,700 –> 01:08:28,399
opposing argument?
Yeah, like, this is what we did

1197
01:08:28,399 –> 01:08:33,500
in the 60s as a country, like we
killed progressives and we found

1198
01:08:33,500 –> 01:08:37,899
really sneaky ways to do it and
this is another example.

1199
01:08:39,000 –> 01:08:44,600
So that’s our episode.
Do we have anything to plug

1200
01:08:44,600 –> 01:08:47,600
before we get out of here?
Because follow my social me?

1201
01:08:47,800 –> 01:08:49,300
I don’t know.
Do some reading, I don’t know.

1202
01:08:50,000 –> 01:08:51,800
Additive Mars Twitter,
Instagram, I don’t know.

1203
01:08:51,899 –> 01:08:53,600
Man, I’m fucking sad.
Yeah.

1204
01:08:53,899 –> 01:08:56,600
Wow, wash your hands.
Keep an eye on the government.

1205
01:08:56,700 –> 01:08:59,700
Keep going to government tip
your fucking delivery people.

1206
01:09:00,100 –> 01:09:03,000
Yeah, yeah.
Stop hoarding toilet paper.

1207
01:09:03,100 –> 01:09:07,100
Leave some for everyone else.
You fucking Psychopaths all that

1208
01:09:07,100 –> 01:09:10,700
shit.
And yeah, patreon.com on pops,

1209
01:09:10,700 –> 01:09:14,399
you can get bonus episodes of
conspiracy to show and help.

1210
01:09:14,399 –> 01:09:18,399
Keep this network of float when
you subscribe.

1211
01:09:18,399 –> 01:09:21,800
And I think that’s all I got.
So, let’s get out of here at if

1212
01:09:21,899 –> 01:09:23,500
Say goodbye.
Peace, everybody.

1213
01:09:23,800 –> 01:09:25,100
Goodbye everybody.
We love you.