Conspiracy! The Show Understanding the Crowdstrike Conspiracy

January 22, 2020

Adam and Olivia discuss the conspiracy theory at the heart of Trump’s impeachment
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Wait till the transparent, you
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Hey everybody, Welcome to
conspiracy to show.

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I’m Adam Todd Brown.
I’m Olivia hide our, and we are

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your hosts for the next two
weeks.

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Yeah, we recorded them out of
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We just oh yeah, we just
recorded a doozy of an episode

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that’s going up next week, sure.
It’s like momento you can listen

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to them backwards and get the
full picture exactly.

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But today, we’re talking about
some timely news.

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Yes.
Yes, this is ripped from the

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headlines.
One order style.

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Hell yeah.
Hell is Dick Wolf’s?

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Yeah, we are the Dick Wolf of
podcast.

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We’re talking about the to
conspiracy theories that are at

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the heart of Trumps impeachment,
right?

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Trial.
And I have in the notes.

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So fun going to be a really good
time.

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Yeah.
Lots of lots of very like normal

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things.
Happening throughout the

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throughout this entire mess of
everything.

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Yeah, it’s been a good run.
It’s been a good run since 2k

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16, I’ve just been having the
time of my life, hasn’t

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everyone?
I mean, it’s been so good for

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comedy.
Yeah, I did man, punk music and

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punk.
Music, just the best punk music

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is coming out now.
Yeah, it sure is.

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So yeah we’re talking about
people have been asking me to do

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some sort of impeachment
episode.

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Yeah.
And it’s like covering the

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actual impeachment trial.
It’s like how many different

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people do you want to hear say
the same thing right?

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There’s really not a lot of
interesting details in the

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impeachment trial like there’s
different people saying.

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Yep he did this also would I
don’t know.

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That would that be part of the
would that be appropriate for

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the conspiracy show?
No, it wouldn’t.

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But it also from an
entertainment standpoint.

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Be appropriate for any show
because it is not super

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entertaining.
Really boring, but there are two

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conspiracy theories.
If that’s what you want to call

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her.
That the entire thing, sort of

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centers around, right?
And we’re going to talk about

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those in about whether there’s
any Credence to either of them.

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Yeah, kind of the foundational
right in the, there’s only one

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that’s ever really called a
conspiracy and that’s

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crowdstrike.
Okay?

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Which is the one we’ll talk
about.

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First the other one is buries
Mama.

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Yeah.
But But related.

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Yeah, they are, they are
definitely related crowdstrike.

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The basic premise.
Is this the 2016 hacking of the

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DNC was a setup perpetrated with
help from Ukraine to fabricate

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computer records to frame Russia
for the hack which probably not.

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No.
I mean, that sounds like a lot

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of effort.
It’s a, it’s a whole lot of work

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to lose.
Yes, which is where like, So,

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like this whole, this this is
kind of one of those.

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This is one of the items is at
the heart of the whole, the DNC

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colluded to hack the election in
driver of Hillary Clinton.

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The thing that has always struck
me about that theory is that

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Hillary Clinton lost that
election.

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So write it it became pretty
apparent.

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That Trump was just going to
keep that suggestion in his back

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pocket.
Right?

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In case he lost.
Yeah, which I love.

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That in light of stuff like
that, there are still people in

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2020 who are like, Trump didn’t
want to be president, it really

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fucking wanted to be present,
wanted to win.

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Yeah.
And that’s his whole thing and

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he did.
And the fact that he wants to

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win again in 2020 is at the
heart.

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Yeah, of what’s Happening Here,
I think.

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And I think the idea of him
wanting to win the presidency,

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is a separate issue from the
idea of him wanting to have the

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job of President, right?
I think he Obviously is not very

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interested in the job of
President, as has been evidenced

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by how he treats those jobs.
Sure.

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Very casually.
I think we could say it’s one

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way to put it here and but the
fact that he wants he wants

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desperately to win in the
election though.

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Like that is the most important
thing to him, right?

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And he might, yeah, he probably
will.

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But so crowdstrike, it’s a
conspiracy that Trump has been

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tossing around since At least
2017.

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Yeah, that’s when he told the
Associated Press that he didn’t

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trust crowdstrike and that he
quote heard, it’s owned by a

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very rich Ukrainian.
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Which it’s not no, no.
The this story came back to life

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when the Trump Administration
tried to defend itself from

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allegations of wrongdoing.
Like the allegations at the

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heart of the impeachment, by
releasing a transcript of a

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call.
Trump had with you.

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Iranian president below, Tamir
zalenski and this move was

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vintage Trump for starters.
The title of the document, let

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me just boy so you can see this
live and him person.

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The title of the document as
released by the fucking White

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House is just the word
transcript with three count em,

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three exclamation points at the
end, our world is so stupid.

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And that is right off the bat
Trump as oh yeah.

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Fuck absolutely.
This whole thing is yeah, and S

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not a transcript.
No in the fine prints, a memo of

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the document itself.
It’s made clear that it’s quote,

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not a Verbatim transcript of a
discussion.

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Yeah, with so that’s what a
transcript is.

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You verbatim is a redundant
term.

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Yeah I don’t know if I’m being
too sensitive here but I feel

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like the title is a little
misleading.

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Yes.
The transcript of Only with the

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3 exclamation point that really
sells me on ya.

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Its veracity and unfortunately
it did sell a bunch of people on

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it.
Seriousness it did which is

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insane because it actually kind
of made matters worse.

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Yeah because it’s just one of a
number of examples of either

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Trump or people in his
administration we’re going to

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play a really great video from.
Oh my God, that video is so he’s

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the will get to just like Like
they’ve admitted this several

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times and public, and in this,
memo is one of the places where

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they admitted it.
But here’s the part of the memo

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where things get conspiratorial.
This is a quote.

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I would like you to find out
what happened with this whole

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situation with Ukraine.
They say crowdstrike I guess you

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have one of your wealthy people
the server they say Ukraine has

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it that sounds like Trump to me
is what he talks like.

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So who the fuck is crowdstrike?
They are an Company hired by the

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DNC em to find and remove the
hackers responsible for the 2016

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breach of DN C servers the whole
emails, right?

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They were the first to produce
evidence that Russia was

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responsible for the DNC hack and
like I said, he’s been bringing

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them up since 2017 says they’re
owned by a very rich Ukrainian.

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They’re not say us firm race
based in California.

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Well whenever you can say that
Trump said that he heard Heard

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something, you know that that is
oh yeah obvious lie, that’s his

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favorite Lie cover up phrase.
I heard this.

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Yeah, like a two-year-old.
One of my favorite details of

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that DMC hack is how it happened
like John podesta just replied

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to an email that he shouldn’t
have because he’s old and dumb

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at computers.
Yeah, like everyone else in the

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government.
It’s like man don’t give like

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the government should be run on
paper.

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Like there should be no
computers in Government.

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None of our infrastructure
should be run by computers.

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I don’t care if we have
toddlers.

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All the turn and cranks.
Yeah, just a card catalog.

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Yeah, any of that?
Yeah, perfectly fine.

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But there is a theory among
right-wingers they argue that

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crowdstrike finder Dimitri
alperovitz, which was somehow

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compromised by Ukrainian
businessman, Victor pinchuk, who

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was a donor to the Atlantic
Council, which is a think tank

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that alperovitz.
Which was part of in 2016 and

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sure yeah people get compromised
all the time but also Victor

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pinchak.
Donated a hundred and fifty

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thousand dollars to the Trump
foundation in 2015.

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So the odds of him, a scant few
months later, right?

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Deciding to frame somehow frame
Trump or the, you know, I don’t

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know.
It makes me feel Dumber just

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like contemplating it, right?
Yeah, that that’s the Agnes is

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like people listening to this
podcast.

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You know me.
I’m very open to hearing your

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Arguments for any conspiracy
theory.

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Yeah.
Like I’m a nope.

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I’m very open to the possibility
that conspiracy theories happen.

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Absolutely I believe I believe
in several yeah.

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This is bullshit.
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This is easily proven false.
It is funny.

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Like I was just thinking like,
man, every time I come on here I

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feel like I have to talk about
some shit.

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Yeah, it’s just so blatantly not
even possible that.

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I feel bad for like feeling like
a nicer because I, you know, I

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also, you know, I’m not one to
like, trust the government.

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I’m not one to, you know, put my
faith in a lot of these

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institutions that are not have
not earned trust but like also,

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you know who else has an earned,
my trust try Donald Trump.

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He is the least trustworthy
person in the country.

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Yeah.
And I’m by no means a Joe.

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Biden guy.
Oh, absolutely.

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No.
I don’t want Joe Biden to be our

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next president.
The fact that he can is

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continually a front-runner.
Makes me so deeply.

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Deeply sad, right?
Just on a pure, like existential

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level.
So we have that on the record.

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Yes.
We are not Joe, Biden

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supporters.
Absolutely.

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Not that said, the allegations
made against Joe Biden and

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Hunter, Biden.
And against crowdstrike Are all

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things that countless people
time and time again, have

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refuted in so many different
ways and when it comes to

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crowdstrike the idea that they
somehow collaborated with

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Ukraine to pull off this
Russian, this hacking of the DNC

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servers, there’s so much more
evidence.

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That doesn’t involve crowdstrike
light at all that.

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Implicates Russia.
So it’s, it’s, it’s just the

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Thread that people with an
agenda come in and pick a bright

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and can find just enough of a
gap in that they can squeeze

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their nefarious agenda in there.
Like, you know, right can

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squeeze their own ideas of.
Like, this is what really went

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down and just some of the
details of this that have been

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disproven.
What about that missing server?

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Yeah, there is no missing server
the A of Ukraine, did not take

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one server and hide it deep
within the bowels of their

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infrastructure.
That’s not how computers work.

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The DNC had something like 100
servers, right?

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And the FBI has a digital image
of those servers, which is all

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you need?
Yeah, like it.

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It’s not like the physical
server is hiding any anything.

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It’s, all right information,
that’s on it that you need,

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right?
It’s, it’s like, implying That

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hacking into someone’s like
Google Drive account, wouldn’t

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be enough.
You’d have to eat, have to have

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the building right?
Where that server is housed to

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really get to the root.
It’s like no this is the cloud

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baby.
Yeah.

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Like it’s all like the FBI has
seen.

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What’s on these servers?
Yeah.

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And there is no evidence that
Ukraine had anything to do with

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hacking.
Yeah the DNC and like whether or

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not you trust, the FBI is a
separate issue.

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I mean like I get it but like
right, You know, when there’s

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enough overwhelming evidence, a
certain point, you kind of have

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to and this app that even even
on that count the thing about

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trusting the FBI like do I trust
the FBI in this case where

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they’re saying, we’ve seen
Hillary Clinton servers in the

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DNC servers and there’s nothing
that shady on them.

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I do kind of trust that because
this is the same FBI that two

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fucking days before the election
was like, where is Investigating

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Hillary Clinton again, because
of those emails.

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So like they’ve looked into it.
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And it probably cost her the
election.

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Yes.
This one of the main one, big

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things but so yeah.
In that case, I guess I should

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in general.
No, I don’t trust most

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Authority.
I don’t trust my fucking

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landlord I mean you should never
trust your land.

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Yeah, so yeah.
I mean, I don’t in this case, I

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guess I’m willing to give them
the benefit of the doubt.

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It seems like there’s enough
evidence here, right?

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The other A thing that people
bring up as being potentially

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Shady about.
This is why was some company,

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right?
Doing the investigation?

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This is just people who are
ignorant.

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Just don’t know how yet these
things work.

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Just pretending to be experts,
right?

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When there’s a situation like
this what crowdstrike is

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crowdstrike is what they call an
incident response, right?

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Group meaning you run a system
of computers with very important

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information on them.
Someone’s hacked into your Shit.

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They are like the Ghostbusters
of itea there.

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There’s there, there’s security
personnel there.

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There people who investigate
these things for companies,

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right?
And it’s easier for the FBI to

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contract with them instead of
doing that investigation

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ourselves.
Yeah, the thing is the FBI can

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do an investigation like that.
But why would they write when

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any other almost any, it firm is
capable of conducting an

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investigation like this and then
the FBI takes it from there.

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Let the IT department can’t
enforce the law, right?

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They’re not busting down
warrants.

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They’re not collecting the
server’s.

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You know.
Right there just they are just

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doing number crunching and
basically like combing through

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and like taking out the damn
right?

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And copying and it’s not, it’s
all very technical, you know?

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I don’t even have no computer
expert but like, I know that

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that’s how you know, you’ve you
hire companies who their job is

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to do that stuff right instead.
Of the FBI dedicating time and

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man-hours.
Yeah, if you can learn to do it

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at DeVry, the FBI doesn’t need
to be involved like they can

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skip that step.
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And then you just pass along
whatever information you find

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and that’s what happened.
Here, crowdstrike did the

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initial investigation and then
pass that shit off to the FBI.

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Why does it matter for
impeachment though?

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Why do all these liberal Cuts
Olivia?

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I know I am a liberal cook.
Why do they think Trump with

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Held Aid to Ukraine until they
agreed to investigate this

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because that that is the
allegation here.

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That’s called a quid pro quo.
Not cool.

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No, bad illegal, highly illegal.
And here’s the thing, why do the

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libs believe?
This is?

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What Trump did.
It’s for no other reason than

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because the acting white house,
chief of staff said exactly

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those words, in front of a
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And we’re going to listen to
that.

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Right now, Mick Mick Mulvaney is
one of the dumbest characters in

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this entire parade.
I’ll link to this video on the

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website.
It is shocking, is stupidity.

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The is shocking.
The physical performance is

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really important.
He has really caught off guard

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when they suggest that.
What he’s saying is illegal here

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or in any way.
A problem.

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He looks like he was cursed.
To always tell the truth.

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Why are we?
Fire style.

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Yeah.
And has just figured it out in.

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This is the first day every time
that he’s on TV right.

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Let’s listen to this is Mick.
Mulvaney the corruption related

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to the DNC server absolutely no
question about that but that’s

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it and that’s why we held up the
money.

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Now there was a report.
There you go man.

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For an investigation into the
Democrats was part of the reason

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that he it was on the to
withhold funding to Ukraine.

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The the look back to what
happened in 2006.

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Teen certainly was part of the
thing that he was worried about

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in corruption with that nation.
That is absolutely appropriate.

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Father.
Yeah, just described is a quid

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pro quo will not flow in less,
the investigation, he looks

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stunts like I have happened as
well.

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We do, we do that all the time
without?

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Okay, just keep digging really
upset with a political influence

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in foreign policy, so he has
since backtracked on.

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Those words.
Oh, really?

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Yeah, he’s like, Angie, you
gotta try and take it back.

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You bad.
You were on television, buddy.

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Like he is 100% admitting.
Yeah, that the president is like

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did what he’s accused and we do
it all the time, all the time.

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So our main, that’s what we do.
We’re or a mob presidency which

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that part is so insane, like
that should be like he should

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have just been impeached, right.
Then there’s actually like there

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should be some alternate route
where evidence is that clear?

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All right, let’s just well your
you get a golden ticket to

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Hollywood?
You’re moving on without having

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to compete in the rest of the
competition.

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We will see you in the finals.
President Trump, he would still

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have a perfectly fine career.
If you didn’t go to prison.

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Oh yeah.
I’d rather you would go to

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prison.
Yeah, probably not.

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I kind of hope that there’s
some, it’s somewhere been

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suggested that he won’t go to
prison after he leaves office

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because otherwise he’s never
going to leave office, right?

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He will die in office.
And then his kids will ya take

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up the mantle.
It will be dealing with God

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Emperor.
Baron Trump in a giant fucking

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kid worm suit weirdly.
This was all really good for

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crowd strikes stock prices.
I love capitalism.

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Oh yeah.
When Adam Schiff kicked off the

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impeachment hearings by
referring to quote the

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discredited, 2016 crowdstrike,
conspiracy theory stock shot up

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11.
That great which I guess stands

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to reason.
I mean, sure if there were

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people out there on the fence
about whether crowdstrike was

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involved in all this.
Yeah.

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But yeah, I don’t know that,
that a good for them, I guess.

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Yeah, I mean, fuck them.
Yeah, I was really, I was really

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worried that they were going to
go under and I’ve been sewing,

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right?
So many jobs would be loud

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strike brand that shadowy group
of 12 fucking hackers and a room

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and California somewhere.
I mean like crowdstrike is an

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objectively Sinister name.
Yeah, if you don’t want to wind

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up in conspiracy theories, he
may be change that name.

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A like that.
How about crowd help?

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Yeah.
Or I don’t know, Internet

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Security Technologies.
Associates like just go fucking

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Bland Diamond industry.
Even tell fucking Tony’s

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computers.
Yeah anything but crowdstrike

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Strike.
It’s the crowdstrike.

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Like I certainly want this to be
some evil organization.

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I don’t want like that.
I don’t want a crowd that I am

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in to be strew but like like
Blackwater.

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Yeah, they had a scary name era.
Scary.

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Fucking are pretty scary, very
scary company.

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But crowdstrike has the really
scary name and just some it

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Pros.
I mean, I mean they were hired

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by the DNC.
Yeah, I mean, I don’t know.

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So they must do something right
or wrong.

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Bunch of black hats probably
Chris.

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Chris Hemsworth is in there.
So, where did this Theory

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originated?
I put that in here because the

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really popular claim is that it
started with Russia.

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Right?
But that’s not actually true.

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It’s a little more complicated
than that.

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As pointed out by the Atlantic,
the theory that Ukraine

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interfered on behalf of Hillary
Clinton started in 2016.

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In Ukraine with a newspaper
article that was published List

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in that country and the reason
it starts there I think we cover

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this a little more later in the
episode but that article

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mentioned this black Ledger that
had all of these payments to

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Paul manafort, right?
Twelve point seven million

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dollars and when Trump and his
clan, say that Ukraine

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interfered in our election to
try and get Hillary Clinton

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elected.
That’s all they mean.

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Yeah.
All they’re saying is Uh, is,

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well, they leak damaging
information about Paul manafort

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and it might have made Trump
look bad, and they’re

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interfering in our election.
Like, what I love that is not

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the same thing.
I love the idea though, what a,

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what, a lovely fantasy land that
after everything, that Trump has

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said and done in public on
camera.

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That the thing that might make
him look bad that he’s worried

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about Is something from like one
of his campaign managers, right?

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Like who gives a shit, buddy,
greatest care that.

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That could have come out and it
would have done nothing to his

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campaign.
A be a spy, like our top fucking

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military guy for a while.
Dude.

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I think this is kind of minor.
Yeah, it’s very not me.

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Not my like Paul manafort went
to jail, right?

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But I don’t know.
He’s a bad person like pal, man.

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For it’s a bad guy but I just
don’t think that I have.

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It’s just so wild to me to think
Like that that ledger coming

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out, could have negatively
affected Trump’s campaign at

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all.
Yeah, there’s no fucking way.

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That’s the like because I feel
like that’s a thing that in his

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over you know over the time of
History will get lost about 2016

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is how it just kept escalating
and how nothing could stick to

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him ever.
It’s a one of the most bizarre

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ascents that you’ve ever seen
in.

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Yeah, decks like literally
scandals that hat would have

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ruined every single other person
just people running for

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president, like yeah.
Just people Studio executive.

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If those scandals came out
things that would ruin every

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single other candidate who has
ever run for president.

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Like if Billy Bush was the one
saying grab him by the pussy at.

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Oh my God it would have been it
would have been giving homeless

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right near the end.
Yeah.

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Well and like and if you know,
if he had said if Billy bush, It

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said that on a tape with like
Barack Obama nearby it would

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have ruined Barack Obama’s
political career, right?

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Even if he didn’t say it like ya
know what I mean?

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Like that’s how nothing much.
Nothing was sticking.

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And just the idea that this
thing, this Paul manafort thing

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that though, that was that,
that’s that was real, crane

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being bad have that could have
changed everything.

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Yeah, so funny to me, right?
And so that’s kind of like

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there’s all these Russian
Disinformation groups out there.

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One of the big ones is called
the internet research agency and

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a few months after that article
came out, they kind of latched

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onto the theory and started
spreading it.

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And that’s where the idea that
it’s a russian-born conspiracy

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comes from.
But again, as this Atlantic

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article that I’ll link to points
out, the people really

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responsible for spreading, this
conspiracy theory is the

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American, right?
Yeah.

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Like, they’re the ones who are
yeah of creating this, the most,

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because it, at least at Attempts
to because their brains are

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broken and these sorts of things
just appeal to them.

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Like right, they’ll believe any
sort of conspiracy theory, as

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long as it fits within their,
like, it doesn’t even have to

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fit within their world view.
It just has to rhyme with it

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enough that they can latch onto
it.

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Yeah.
And the Atlantic says, it’s the

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American far, right?
But I would just argue just the

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right.
Like, Republican.

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Oh, yes, mainly him.
Republicanism is extremely far,

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00:25:20,300 –> 00:25:22,500
right?
Like that has it’s been brought

442
00:25:22,500 –> 00:25:25,300
up by like in the Pietschmann
hearings.

443
00:25:25,300 –> 00:25:29,100
Yeah still several times even
though it’s been discredited.

444
00:25:29,100 –> 00:25:33,300
Yeah over and over.
So that’s that’s crowdstrike.

445
00:25:33,500 –> 00:25:36,300
Yeah.
The other conspiracy theory and

446
00:25:36,300 –> 00:25:39,500
I put conspiracy and quotes here
because it’s never really

447
00:25:39,500 –> 00:25:42,000
referred to as a conspiracy
theory.

448
00:25:42,000 –> 00:25:44,800
But this is the moment more
important of the two.

449
00:25:45,000 –> 00:25:48,600
This is the one that led to the
pretty quid pro quo, right?

450
00:25:48,700 –> 00:25:51,900
Phone call and it involves a
company called Burr yzma

451
00:25:52,000 –> 00:25:58,500
Holdings and Even if there’s no
wrongdoing on the part of the

452
00:25:58,500 –> 00:26:01,900
Biden’s, right?
It is weird that Hunter Biden

453
00:26:01,900 –> 00:26:04,400
was on the board of this
company.

454
00:26:04,400 –> 00:26:09,100
The largest oil and gas
extracting company in Ukraine in

455
00:26:09,100 –> 00:26:12,200
2014, hundred Biden joins their
board.

456
00:26:12,200 –> 00:26:13,800
Right?
A couple months after getting

457
00:26:13,800 –> 00:26:15,300
kicked out of the Navy for doing
coke.

458
00:26:15,300 –> 00:26:17,900
Yeah, which that’s fine.
I mean sure.

459
00:26:18,000 –> 00:26:22,100
It, you know, the thing about
this whole thing is, yeah, it’s

460
00:26:22,100 –> 00:26:25,900
weird that he’s on there, but it
Seemed like a pretty standard

461
00:26:25,900 –> 00:26:28,700
case of Washington nepotism,
right?

462
00:26:28,700 –> 00:26:31,500
Like the vice president’s kid is
never going to struggle to find

463
00:26:31,500 –> 00:26:35,200
some cushy job, right?
And the reason it’s kind of

464
00:26:35,200 –> 00:26:39,400
conflict of interest e is Joe.
Biden was the Obama

465
00:26:39,400 –> 00:26:42,300
administration’s, like Point
person when it came to Ukraine,

466
00:26:42,300 –> 00:26:44,500
right?
So the fact that Hunter Biden

467
00:26:44,500 –> 00:26:47,400
got this job and Ukraine after
being kicked out of the Navy, it

468
00:26:47,400 –> 00:26:50,300
does seem like there could be
like, he might have pulled some

469
00:26:50,300 –> 00:26:53,500
strings to get him.
Absolutely, it’s not great and

470
00:26:53,500 –> 00:26:57,400
it could have Of just as easily
been this company in Ukraine,

471
00:26:57,400 –> 00:27:00,100
which as we’ll talk about, was
under investigation.

472
00:27:00,100 –> 00:27:01,100
Oh, yeah.
A bunch.

473
00:27:01,500 –> 00:27:03,500
It could have been them.
Who was like?

474
00:27:03,500 –> 00:27:06,200
Well, maybe if we hire 100,
Biden, right?

475
00:27:06,200 –> 00:27:09,600
That’s going to like, keep the
heat off us as it pertains to

476
00:27:09,600 –> 00:27:13,200
the Obama Administration.
But either way, he gets this job

477
00:27:13,500 –> 00:27:19,400
at Burger yzma in 2014.
And that’s kind of the, that’s

478
00:27:19,400 –> 00:27:22,300
the starting point.
I guess he gets this job.

479
00:27:22,500 –> 00:27:26,800
The founder of Barista is a
Named Nikola Tesla Tchaikovsky.

480
00:27:27,000 –> 00:27:29,700
Okay.
And he has been investigated

481
00:27:29,800 –> 00:27:31,000
multiple time.
Yes.

482
00:27:31,300 –> 00:27:36,100
Over allegations specifically
allegations that he procured the

483
00:27:36,100 –> 00:27:40,300
money to start buries my
Holdings through crime, okay.

484
00:27:40,400 –> 00:27:44,200
Which if that’s true do the
responsible thing and record a

485
00:27:44,208 –> 00:27:49,300
rap album up what is long as you
documented in an entertaining

486
00:27:49,300 –> 00:27:51,200
way?
They were all we’re always very

487
00:27:51,200 –> 00:27:55,700
accepting of that kind of
surprised more of These Shifty,

488
00:27:55,700 –> 00:27:58,900
big business.
Capitalists don’t do that sort

489
00:27:58,900 –> 00:28:00,700
of thing.
Yeah, it’d be pretty.

490
00:28:00,700 –> 00:28:02,000
Perfect has released a rap
album.

491
00:28:02,000 –> 00:28:05,700
Just do a fucking rabbit.
In the raps, talk about how much

492
00:28:05,700 –> 00:28:08,800
your Crock-Pot, how you sold
drugs, to start your company.

493
00:28:08,800 –> 00:28:11,900
Exactly.
And that would be a Hit album if

494
00:28:11,900 –> 00:28:14,400
the beat is sick.
I might like it, the Beats got

495
00:28:14,400 –> 00:28:16,900
to be sick, is it?
Got its got a corporate money.

496
00:28:16,900 –> 00:28:19,800
I mean except it’ll be able to
pay the the best producers,

497
00:28:19,800 –> 00:28:21,600
right?
Get DJ khaled’s in there.

498
00:28:23,800 –> 00:28:27,800
So, Thing is no investigation,
has ever turned up any crimes,

499
00:28:27,800 –> 00:28:30,900
right?
And that includes a massive UK

500
00:28:30,900 –> 00:28:35,300
investigation in 2014 that
concluded, none of the evidence.

501
00:28:35,300 –> 00:28:39,300
And this is a quote establishes,
reasonable grounds for a belief

502
00:28:39,300 –> 00:28:44,000
that his assets were unlawfully
acquired as a result of

503
00:28:44,000 –> 00:28:47,900
misconduct in public office.
Again, this all happens right

504
00:28:47,900 –> 00:28:53,300
around the time. 100, Biden
joins the board and into August

505
00:28:53,300 –> 00:28:58,300
2014, Teen Ukraine opens their
own investigation into his love?

506
00:28:58,300 –> 00:29:00,300
Chesky.
I want to know what this guy’s

507
00:29:00,300 –> 00:29:01,400
like.
Yeah.

508
00:29:01,400 –> 00:29:04,100
He’s got to be a real fucking
carrot.

509
00:29:04,100 –> 00:29:08,600
Like, just I just picturing like
just a real like creepy.

510
00:29:08,600 –> 00:29:13,000
You just cannot trust right.
Like, he might not be a bad

511
00:29:13,000 –> 00:29:15,900
person but like, there’s just
something about him where you’re

512
00:29:15,900 –> 00:29:17,600
just.
Like, I don’t know.

513
00:29:17,600 –> 00:29:19,600
I don’t know.
How did he get that money?

514
00:29:19,700 –> 00:29:22,200
No one knows gotta investigate.
Yeah.

515
00:29:22,300 –> 00:29:24,000
But Ukraine investigates.
Yeah.

516
00:29:24,300 –> 00:29:27,500
They don’t find anything.
Yeah, and this is like still

517
00:29:27,500 –> 00:29:32,900
2014 basically, right?
So all of the, by all accounts

518
00:29:32,900 –> 00:29:35,600
and we’ll get dig into it a
little more later, all of the

519
00:29:35,600 –> 00:29:40,400
investigations into Purisima by
2016 were pretty much dead.

520
00:29:40,500 –> 00:29:43,300
And that’s very important yet,
or it will become important

521
00:29:43,300 –> 00:29:46,700
later.
But in later in 2014, going back

522
00:29:46,700 –> 00:29:49,800
to then, Ukraine passes a law
establishing, the National

523
00:29:49,800 –> 00:29:54,000
anti-corruption Bureau and both
the United States and Europe.

524
00:29:54,100 –> 00:29:58,700
Acquire the Ukrainian government
to fund it in exchange for Aid,

525
00:29:58,700 –> 00:30:01,400
right?
Which if you’re sitting at home

526
00:30:01,400 –> 00:30:05,500
thinking, well that sounds like
a quid pro quo also it’s not no

527
00:30:06,000 –> 00:30:09,000
it’s us saying you need to crack
down on corruption, right,

528
00:30:09,000 –> 00:30:11,300
country or we’re not going to
give you Aid like right?

529
00:30:11,300 –> 00:30:18,100
That’s a standard thing and so
it’s very not specific, right?

530
00:30:18,100 –> 00:30:21,500
That’s like I think one of the
key differences right you’re not

531
00:30:21,500 –> 00:30:23,400
it’s not about one specific
thing.

532
00:30:23,400 –> 00:30:25,800
It’s just like You’ve got a lot
of corruption going on.

533
00:30:26,300 –> 00:30:29,600
You should crack down on it and
we’ll keep giving your aid but

534
00:30:29,600 –> 00:30:32,800
you have to pay for it.
Yeah it’s almost like a pre

535
00:30:32,800 –> 00:30:36,800
sanctions its tip, it’s kind of
messy, it like diplomacy and we

536
00:30:36,800 –> 00:30:39,600
slap sanctions on countries a
lot of times it’s because their

537
00:30:39,600 –> 00:30:41,400
human rights abusers.
Yeah.

538
00:30:41,400 –> 00:30:45,700
And we withhold funds and money
from them like North Korea,

539
00:30:45,900 –> 00:30:47,800
right?
We don’t give them Aid because

540
00:30:47,800 –> 00:30:51,800
they’re bad people and if they
started being good, which I’m

541
00:30:51,800 –> 00:30:54,000
saying that the element, not not
the bit.

542
00:30:54,100 –> 00:30:57,000
Yeah, the people are fine.
The government is kind of a

543
00:30:57,008 –> 00:30:59,800
nightmare just Kinda.
Yeah.

544
00:30:59,800 –> 00:31:03,600
And if that government somehow
became better, we probably give

545
00:31:03,600 –> 00:31:06,300
them more Aid money.
You would hope if we had a

546
00:31:06,300 –> 00:31:10,300
reasonable government, right?
That that’s not a crime, right?

547
00:31:10,400 –> 00:31:15,300
No asking, its diplomacy, it’s
avoiding War basically.

548
00:31:15,600 –> 00:31:20,400
And the thing is that part is
really important because this is

549
00:31:20,400 –> 00:31:26,300
still 2014 and Biden is still EP
and the United States is

550
00:31:26,500 –> 00:31:30,900
pressuring Ukraine to crack down
on corruption, right?

551
00:31:30,900 –> 00:31:34,500
Which would include his son, the
business that his sudden right

552
00:31:34,600 –> 00:31:38,100
is involved with because the the
implication from the Trump

553
00:31:38,100 –> 00:31:43,000
Administration is that Biden was
pressuring the government to

554
00:31:43,000 –> 00:31:46,200
fire this one particular
prosecutor, right?

555
00:31:46,200 –> 00:31:51,500
To protect his son, when the
truth is actually and this is a

556
00:31:51,500 –> 00:31:54,000
lot of people have attested to
this the United.

557
00:31:54,100 –> 00:31:58,400
States wanted this particular
prosecutor out of office because

558
00:31:58,400 –> 00:32:02,700
he wasn’t doing enough about
corruption and one of the

559
00:32:02,800 –> 00:32:06,200
factors leading to that was that
their investigation into

560
00:32:06,200 –> 00:32:09,700
Purisima failed like after so
many times, they thought this

561
00:32:09,700 –> 00:32:13,000
was going to be the guy who
might uncover some dirt on

562
00:32:13,000 –> 00:32:16,000
people and he gets in office and
he’s just not doing anything,

563
00:32:16,000 –> 00:32:18,200
right?
So not just the United States

564
00:32:18,200 –> 00:32:20,800
several countries in Europe.
Also were like you got to get

565
00:32:20,800 –> 00:32:22,900
rid of that guy.
Yeah, if we’re going to keep

566
00:32:22,900 –> 00:32:27,100
giving you a money, But when
this all really kicks off,

567
00:32:27,100 –> 00:32:28,500
there’s two things that
happened.

568
00:32:28,500 –> 00:32:32,200
Biden.
In 2016 has two meetings, with a

569
00:32:32,200 –> 00:32:35,900
one of the newly elected
presidents of Ukraine.

570
00:32:35,900 –> 00:32:40,700
And it’s during that meeting
where it’s suggested that we’re

571
00:32:40,700 –> 00:32:43,000
going to withhold Aid.
If you don’t start cracking down

572
00:32:43,008 –> 00:32:47,200
on corruption and in particular
you need to fire Victor shokan

573
00:32:47,200 –> 00:32:51,900
who is your top prosecutor and
that’s the sticking point for

574
00:32:51,900 –> 00:32:56,000
the Trump Administration.
Their it is he wanted Victor Sho

575
00:32:56,000 –> 00:33:00,100
can fired because Victor shokan
was the guy who would eventually

576
00:33:00,100 –> 00:33:03,800
investigate Burr yzma right and
that would bring up dirt on

577
00:33:03,800 –> 00:33:07,400
Hunter Biden.
But the problem with that

578
00:33:07,400 –> 00:33:13,500
argument is that, well, I should
add the that one thing is maybe

579
00:33:13,500 –> 00:33:16,400
the most important detail in the
Trump impeachment.

580
00:33:16,400 –> 00:33:18,400
Yeah.
Because what Trump wanted

581
00:33:18,400 –> 00:33:22,300
specifically, when people say
quid pro quo, he wanted in

582
00:33:22,300 –> 00:33:25,200
return for this Aid money.
Being released.

583
00:33:25,300 –> 00:33:28,800
He wanted the government of
Ukraine to at least announce

584
00:33:29,000 –> 00:33:33,900
that they were investigating Joe
Biden and Hunter, Biden for

585
00:33:33,900 –> 00:33:37,600
wrongly, influencing the
government of Ukraine to fire, a

586
00:33:37,608 –> 00:33:40,100
prosecutor to keep hundred Biden
out of jail.

587
00:33:40,100 –> 00:33:44,800
And he did that almost
immediately after a poll that

588
00:33:44,800 –> 00:33:47,500
showed that Biden had the best
chance of beating him in an

589
00:33:47,508 –> 00:33:50,800
election, right?
That’s the big problem.

590
00:33:51,200 –> 00:33:54,500
This poll comes out in 2018 at
illegal.

591
00:33:54,800 –> 00:34:00,800
And by this point, Joe Biden had
gone in front of, I think the

592
00:34:00,800 –> 00:34:04,700
Council on Foreign Relations in
2018 also.

593
00:34:04,700 –> 00:34:07,100
And was like, yeah, we put all
of that.

594
00:34:07,100 –> 00:34:10,699
Like he literally says, we
withheld, a billion dollars in

595
00:34:10,699 –> 00:34:16,199
aid until they fired this guy
and sounds crazy, but it was us

596
00:34:16,400 –> 00:34:20,199
basically requiring that they do
more right to crack down on

597
00:34:20,199 –> 00:34:23,900
corruption, but Trump wanted it
investigated.

598
00:34:24,100 –> 00:34:27,600
Other way and wanted the
president of Ukraine to announce

599
00:34:27,600 –> 00:34:30,600
this investigation was happening
because this poll had just come

600
00:34:30,600 –> 00:34:34,000
out that said Biden had the best
chance of beating Trump right in

601
00:34:34,000 –> 00:34:37,100
2020.
And like you said, highly

602
00:34:37,100 –> 00:34:38,900
illegal, that’s extremely
illegal.

603
00:34:39,199 –> 00:34:43,199
You can’t have that can’t lean
on a foreign government.

604
00:34:43,300 –> 00:34:47,699
The leader of a foreign country
to spy on our people.

605
00:34:47,800 –> 00:34:50,400
Yeah.
Like he wanted them to spy on

606
00:34:50,400 –> 00:34:53,900
Hunter and Joe Biden basically
and dig up whatever dirt they

607
00:34:54,000 –> 00:34:57,300
could on Hunter and Joe Biden.
He was asking them yet to do

608
00:34:57,300 –> 00:35:00,800
dirty work and like to start up
an investigation, just to kick

609
00:35:00,800 –> 00:35:04,800
up shit, right?
And their argument, like, the

610
00:35:04,800 –> 00:35:08,200
Trump administration’s
counter-argument, that Biden was

611
00:35:08,200 –> 00:35:11,700
actually pressuring, the
government for his own ends.

612
00:35:12,100 –> 00:35:14,900
Here’s a few different quotes.
There was no pressure from

613
00:35:14,900 –> 00:35:17,800
anyone from the u.s. to close
cases against Purisima.

614
00:35:18,000 –> 00:35:21,900
It was shelved by Ukrainian
prosecutors in 2014 and through

615
00:35:21,900 –> 00:35:26,000
2015, that is vitally.
Lee Casco former deputy

616
00:35:26,000 –> 00:35:29,900
prosecutor General, who worked
under shokan and resigned

617
00:35:29,900 –> 00:35:34,300
because he regularly stymied
corruption investigations.

618
00:35:34,500 –> 00:35:38,700
So there’s that there’s there’s
also this quote, which is from

619
00:35:38,700 –> 00:35:43,200
Daria Clinic who is a Ukrainian
anti-corruption activist or

620
00:35:43,200 –> 00:35:45,600
Advocate, shokan was not
investigating.

621
00:35:45,600 –> 00:35:49,700
He didn’t want to investigate
Burr yzma and shokan was fired,

622
00:35:49,700 –> 00:35:53,400
not because he wanted to do that
investigation, but quite to the

623
00:35:53,400 –> 00:35:56,600
contrary Arie because he failed
that investigation.

624
00:35:56,700 –> 00:36:00,300
And if anyone out there feels
like, well, that’s just hearsay.

625
00:36:00,400 –> 00:36:04,200
That’s what those people say.
Also, consider that when the UK

626
00:36:04,200 –> 00:36:07,900
was investigating, buries Mama.
Victor Sho consent, buries m’,

627
00:36:07,900 –> 00:36:11,800
lawyers a letter, attesting to
the fact that they were not

628
00:36:11,800 –> 00:36:15,200
under investigation and there
was no case pending against

629
00:36:15,200 –> 00:36:15,800
them.
Yeah.

630
00:36:15,800 –> 00:36:20,900
So basically, Joe Biden if
anything was pressed, like, put

631
00:36:20,900 –> 00:36:25,300
pressure on Ukraine to remove
the guy who was helping To cover

632
00:36:25,300 –> 00:36:28,700
up his write.
It any support the kind of

633
00:36:28,700 –> 00:36:30,700
putting his son at Janice.
Yeah.

634
00:36:30,700 –> 00:36:33,500
Exactly.
When it might be the best

635
00:36:33,500 –> 00:36:35,800
political move that Joe Biden
has ever made.

636
00:36:35,900 –> 00:36:37,500
Yeah.
Tough love baby.

637
00:36:37,700 –> 00:36:42,800
I mean, he had his name, just
got kicked out of the Navy for

638
00:36:42,800 –> 00:36:44,600
being a cokehead.
Now, you want to go work in

639
00:36:44,600 –> 00:36:47,100
Ukraine?
He seems like a problem Hunter

640
00:36:47,100 –> 00:36:48,500
Biden.
Yes, yeah, probably.

641
00:36:48,500 –> 00:36:51,000
I don’t know much about him.
He’s either been kicked out of

642
00:36:51,008 –> 00:36:53,900
the Navy for cocaine and then is
working for this company.

643
00:36:54,000 –> 00:36:57,400
That keeps getting investigated
for corruption that’s true.

644
00:36:58,400 –> 00:37:02,700
So yeah, that’s I mean, there’s
not a lot to the allegations

645
00:37:02,700 –> 00:37:06,100
against Joe and Hunter Biden.
So this is going to be a shorter

646
00:37:06,100 –> 00:37:08,600
episode.
Everything about the impeachment

647
00:37:08,600 –> 00:37:11,600
though.
Stems from these two conspiracy

648
00:37:11,600 –> 00:37:12,500
theories.
Yeah.

649
00:37:12,600 –> 00:37:16,400
And Trump demanding that the
president of Ukraine investigate

650
00:37:16,400 –> 00:37:21,500
them in return for Aid.
Highly illegal tremely and so

651
00:37:21,500 –> 00:37:23,900
illegal.
Everything else that happens.

652
00:37:24,300 –> 00:37:27,600
And like, at one point, it came
out during the impeachment trial

653
00:37:27,600 –> 00:37:30,700
that Devin Nunes went and met
with this Victor shokan.

654
00:37:30,700 –> 00:37:31,700
Yes.
Yeah.

655
00:37:31,800 –> 00:37:35,900
To try and like, get more dirt
on honor and Joe Biden.

656
00:37:36,000 –> 00:37:40,500
He is Giuliani met with them.
Both of them are so stupid.

657
00:37:40,500 –> 00:37:44,400
Right.
Devin Nunes is such a moron just

658
00:37:44,400 –> 00:37:47,600
one of the dumbest people to
ever work in the government.

659
00:37:47,700 –> 00:37:50,000
Right.
And re Giuliani.

660
00:37:50,400 –> 00:37:54,000
What does he even do?
All he does is go on TV and At

661
00:37:54,008 –> 00:37:56,100
the crimes that seems to pretty
much.

662
00:37:56,100 –> 00:37:59,800
Yeah, he’s terrible lawyer, he’s
a terrible lawyer, he’s a

663
00:37:59,808 –> 00:38:03,000
terrible TV, get I mean, his
great TV guess because, you

664
00:38:03,000 –> 00:38:06,900
know, he’s going to say
something he shouldn’t like, but

665
00:38:06,900 –> 00:38:09,600
it might also damage National
Security.

666
00:38:09,700 –> 00:38:16,500
Yeah, when he says it, he’s like
the GG Allin of modern-day

667
00:38:16,500 –> 00:38:20,200
Politics as wipe and shit on
himself once again and it’s

668
00:38:20,200 –> 00:38:24,900
gonna be entertaining, right?
But is it, is it A little toxic.

669
00:38:24,900 –> 00:38:27,200
Yeah, you’re gonna feel good
about being entertained by it

670
00:38:27,200 –> 00:38:28,900
after that guy.
Probably not.

671
00:38:29,400 –> 00:38:34,400
So yeah that’s that’s the thing.
There’s not much to like if we

672
00:38:34,400 –> 00:38:39,900
were to from here go into all of
the allegations made against

673
00:38:39,900 –> 00:38:40,900
Trump.
Yeah.

674
00:38:41,100 –> 00:38:46,000
And Trump’s Administration in
relation to this Scandal it

675
00:38:46,000 –> 00:38:48,200
would be several more episodes,
right?

676
00:38:48,600 –> 00:38:52,900
Because they have done a whole
lot of wrong as it pertains to

677
00:38:52,900 –> 00:38:56,500
Ukraine.
We Didn’t even get into how they

678
00:38:56,500 –> 00:39:00,200
let this Ukrainian dude just
kind of pressure us into firing.

679
00:39:00,300 –> 00:39:03,900
Oh yeah our ambassador to
Ukraine like that’s a whole

680
00:39:03,900 –> 00:39:08,900
other thing, but it really is
just Trump is the kind of guy

681
00:39:09,100 –> 00:39:15,700
who his gut reaction to any
obstacle that he faces is to do

682
00:39:15,700 –> 00:39:18,800
a crime as shoot.
Like doesn’t even, he doesn’t

683
00:39:18,800 –> 00:39:21,100
even think about what crime is
he’s gonna do.

684
00:39:21,200 –> 00:39:25,200
That’s just how his brain works.
He just Flips immediately to

685
00:39:25,300 –> 00:39:27,800
our, I gotta do something
illegal to fix this bullshit,

686
00:39:27,900 –> 00:39:29,600
right?
And then that sin, then he,

687
00:39:29,800 –> 00:39:33,400
that’s what he does.
And it it’s it’s obvious.

688
00:39:33,400 –> 00:39:36,500
That the idea that he’s going to
surround himself with the

689
00:39:36,500 –> 00:39:40,500
smartest people, like you can
tell from that acting chief of

690
00:39:40,500 –> 00:39:44,100
staff video, where the guy’s
like, yeah, no, everything’s

691
00:39:44,100 –> 00:39:45,000
fine.
Yeah, yeah.

692
00:39:45,000 –> 00:39:45,600
Thanks.
I’m good.

693
00:39:45,600 –> 00:39:46,800
All we do that shit all the
time.

694
00:39:46,800 –> 00:39:49,100
What are you talking about?
That’s just how diplomacy works.

695
00:39:49,300 –> 00:39:52,900
And the fucking reporters are
like no it’s not ugh.

696
00:39:53,000 –> 00:39:55,800
Do you realize What you’re
saying you are admitting to

697
00:39:55,800 –> 00:39:57,900
several crimes and they’re like
huh?

698
00:39:59,400 –> 00:40:02,300
Mick Mulvaney?
What a fucking loser?

699
00:40:02,400 –> 00:40:05,200
Yeah.
Is he though?

700
00:40:05,200 –> 00:40:07,600
Or are we the losers?
Everyone’s The Loser.

701
00:40:07,600 –> 00:40:11,100
Yeah everyone’s a loser.
Every that is the theme of the

702
00:40:11,100 –> 00:40:15,200
last several years.
Yeah it kind of feels that way.

703
00:40:15,600 –> 00:40:19,300
So now you understand why
Trump’s being a yeah that’s a

704
00:40:19,500 –> 00:40:22,800
actually a very he concise
summation.

705
00:40:22,800 –> 00:40:26,900
He asked Crane to investigate
bogus allegations against the

706
00:40:26,900 –> 00:40:27,700
Biden’s.
Yeah.

707
00:40:27,800 –> 00:40:29,100
In return for Aid.
Money.

708
00:40:29,200 –> 00:40:32,600
And that’s very much illegal.
Yeah, don’t do it if you’re ever

709
00:40:32,600 –> 00:40:35,800
president don’t and someone
listening to this will be maybe

710
00:40:35,800 –> 00:40:38,200
one day.
Yeah and if you are don’t do

711
00:40:38,200 –> 00:40:39,100
that.
Don’t do this.

712
00:40:39,100 –> 00:40:41,600
Don’t do any of the things
outline.

713
00:40:41,600 –> 00:40:44,800
Oh and the unless your son is on
the board of some shady company

714
00:40:44,800 –> 00:40:48,900
in Ukraine but and you want to
put pressure on the government

715
00:40:48,900 –> 00:40:50,100
to investigate.
Yeah.

716
00:40:50,300 –> 00:40:51,900
Your little shithead son
amazing.

717
00:40:51,900 –> 00:40:55,200
That Joe Biden comes out.
Cooking, the best out of

718
00:40:55,200 –> 00:40:58,900
everybody in this whole thing.
Yeah, because he is a bit again.

719
00:40:59,100 –> 00:41:03,000
I am not of Joe Biden fan at.
I don’t want Joe Biden to be our

720
00:41:03,000 –> 00:41:06,100
prices really don’t.
I really, really don’t.

721
00:41:06,700 –> 00:41:09,800
And so yeah, that’s not what
this is.

722
00:41:09,800 –> 00:41:13,200
It’s just like he just happened
to be doing the right thing at

723
00:41:13,200 –> 00:41:16,700
this in all of this.
Like yeah, he just was doing

724
00:41:16,700 –> 00:41:19,600
normal VP shit.
Yeah, he was doing what pretty

725
00:41:19,600 –> 00:41:22,700
much everyone on the world stage
was calling for it to be done

726
00:41:22,700 –> 00:41:25,600
yet at the time, which was For
Ukraine to fire this.

727
00:41:25,600 –> 00:41:28,400
Prosecutor.
And actually start being a less

728
00:41:28,400 –> 00:41:29,800
corrupt Nation.
Yeah.

729
00:41:30,000 –> 00:41:34,200
And I’m sure that’s happened.
I you know, I can’t imagine that

730
00:41:34,200 –> 00:41:36,400
all on the up-and-up now.
Everything’s everything’s going

731
00:41:36,400 –> 00:41:38,200
to be great now.
Yeah, now that I don’t have been

732
00:41:38,200 –> 00:41:40,400
impeached.
Yeah the whole world.

733
00:41:40,400 –> 00:41:42,100
We got him.
We got him.

734
00:41:42,100 –> 00:41:48,900
He’s definitely going to have
long-term consequences.

735
00:41:49,300 –> 00:41:51,100
Yeah.
All positive though.

736
00:41:51,200 –> 00:41:52,700
Yeah.
It’s all everything’s going to

737
00:41:52,700 –> 00:41:54,800
be great.
Don’t You worry at all.

738
00:41:55,700 –> 00:41:58,800
Anyway, that’s our episode.
Next week, we have a bonus

739
00:41:58,800 –> 00:42:02,900
episode going up about the death
of Nancy spungen.

740
00:42:02,900 –> 00:42:04,600
Yeah.
Punk rock history.

741
00:42:04,600 –> 00:42:08,800
Yeah.
Punk rock meet me at the Hot

742
00:42:08,800 –> 00:42:13,300
Topic.
So check that out.

743
00:42:13,300 –> 00:42:15,500
If you’re a patreon subscriber
if you’re not.

744
00:42:15,600 –> 00:42:17,600
Hey, fuck you.
Oh right?

745
00:42:17,600 –> 00:42:18,400
Wow.
Wow.

746
00:42:18,400 –> 00:42:21,900
Is that too much?
I mean, I get it.

747
00:42:22,300 –> 00:42:24,900
Thank you for listening anyway.
Yes, There we go.

748
00:42:25,000 –> 00:42:26,700
Go back and edit first.
Yeah.

749
00:42:26,700 –> 00:42:28,100
The other thing out.
That’s fine.

750
00:42:28,500 –> 00:42:29,600
No, I’m joking.
We love you.

751
00:42:29,600 –> 00:42:31,800
Thank you for listening.
What do we have to plug?

752
00:42:31,800 –> 00:42:35,800
This is a free episode.
Make this count, follow me on

753
00:42:35,800 –> 00:42:40,400
Instagram at Adam, Todd Brown.
Top is Wendy and Twitter and

754
00:42:41,100 –> 00:42:45,100
check out, I got a new podcast
called celebrity tragic podcast

755
00:42:45,100 –> 00:42:48,500
with me and Carrie Martin, where
we talked about The Life and

756
00:42:48,500 –> 00:42:52,600
Times some of history’s, most
tragic celebrities, and the

757
00:42:52,600 –> 00:42:56,600
first one The Wellspring?
I think the first five episodes

758
00:42:56,600 –> 00:42:58,900
are going to be about.
Anna Nicole Smith, really?

759
00:42:58,900 –> 00:42:59,700
Yeah.
She’s okay.

760
00:43:00,000 –> 00:43:02,700
She’s season one.
So you’re doing like miniseries.

761
00:43:02,700 –> 00:43:05,200
Yeah, each Seasons about a
different celebrity.

762
00:43:06,000 –> 00:43:09,200
So check that out and Olivia,
what do you have to plug?

763
00:43:10,100 –> 00:43:11,400
You can find me on Twitter.
Hi, there.

764
00:43:11,400 –> 00:43:14,900
Hide our.
And I got a podcast, it’s going

765
00:43:14,900 –> 00:43:17,200
to be coming back eventually as
soon as my life returns to

766
00:43:17,200 –> 00:43:20,700
normal to, you know, something
resembling normal.

767
00:43:21,200 –> 00:43:23,800
And yeah, that’s called lowest
common.

768
00:43:23,900 –> 00:43:26,300
Operator, you can hear a bunch
of our old episodes or last one

769
00:43:26,300 –> 00:43:30,100
was about.
If you want to hear two hours of

770
00:43:30,300 –> 00:43:34,100
two people being kind of annoyed
at the new Star Wars movie, you

771
00:43:34,100 –> 00:43:37,600
can check that episode out very
nice.

772
00:43:37,700 –> 00:43:39,400
Yeah, the new Star Wars was
pretty annoying.

773
00:43:39,400 –> 00:43:42,100
It was extremely annoying.
All right, let’s get the fuck

774
00:43:42,100 –> 00:43:43,500
out of here.
Olivia said goodbye.

775
00:43:43,600 –> 00:43:44,800
Bye.
Goodbye everybody.

776
00:43:44,800 –> 00:43:45,300
We love you.

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