Conspiracy! The Show Documentary Review: Wormwood (Conspiracy! The Show Legacy Collection)

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Welcome to conspiracy the show
with your host, added Todd Brown

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and Connor mcspadden.
Hey, everybody, Welcome to

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conspiracy the show.
I’m Adam, Todd Brown.

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I’m Connor mcspadden.
I just missed you taking a drink

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of water.
I saw what you’re doing your

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fucking game right now.
You would have really hustled

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through your own name if you
wanted to embarrass me.

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But alas, you did not.
I should pull up a clock so we

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don’t get off track.
Yeah, so We don’t we don’t just

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start chatting like old hands
and realize we’ve been in here

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for an hour and a half, how’s it
been going man?

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Good dude?
Yeah, everything’s everything’s

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groovy, that’s good.
Everything’s groovy with me.

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Two things are going well.
Adam Scott is a Supermom

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t-shirt.
I do.

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I fucking love this shirt.
Yeah, it’s fun Co-op.

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Did it for my own?
I had like a world’s greatest

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Grandpa t-shirt I’d wear.
Like I just go to thrift stores

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when I was a kid and just get
like, very specific like, you

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know, like the Gomez family
reunions.

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Oh yeah, t-shirt I had a when I
lived in South Dakota the high

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school.
There was called Roosevelt High

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School and I had a 3X women’s
hockey team t-shirt.

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Long sleeve t-shirt with the
name.

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Dick my Iran back.
Wow!

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That right.
I found it a thrift store and

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there was no way.
I wasn’t going to buy that.

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Of course not.
And I had a shirt from Walmart

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that said, fly fishing, dad was
one of my favorite shirts for a

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long fucking time.
That’s a good time.

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Yeah.
So, welcome back.

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To mind control month as if you
had a fucking Choice.

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Yeah.
Well mine control works baby.

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No, we’re not leaving.
There’s no exit clause for my

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control but you can’t opt out.
No, no, this is a subscription.

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Only episode last week’s episode
was about MK Ultra.

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So now as soon as you see that
email notification, telling you,

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there’s a new post, you’re going
to start, you’re going to go ape

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shit at the post office.
Exactly.

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Yeah.
Ideally if everything’s worked.

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Yeah supposed to.
So it took months of rehearsal

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to get the script right.
So plant these, these cues in

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you, you thought it was all just
stammering and bullshitting but

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it was all very well curated for
the specific purpose of creating

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an army of murderers.
So yeah, this week we’re talking

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about wormwood the Netflix
documentary took a head that in

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the Navy.
Oh, what?

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I just sounds like a little bit
like a seafaring STD, you know?

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Oh yeah.
That it does.

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Yeah.
And I liked I liked on last

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week’s episode.
Episode.

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I speculated as to whether the
title referred to the

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hallucinogen in absinthe and
even though I had seen this

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documentary series once before,
I was looking wonder if it comes

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up.
I watched it a second time.

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It comes up like 30 seconds in.
Oh yeah, I guess.

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One of the first things they
talked about here like yeah, I

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was right about that thing.
I already knew so I cleared that

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up.
What did you think of this

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documentary?
I think like you said it started

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off a little slow but it really
does kind of build.

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And it’s pretty well done there
is you’ll hear us talk about it

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but some of the this Shakespeare
comparisons do kind of just like

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all right man I’m maybe just
make this episode 28 minutes,

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you know.
Yeah, they keep flashing back to

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stuff.
I felt like I mean, the first

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time I watched it, I remember I
got through the first two and a

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half episodes and I messaged you
and was like, that’s bullshit.

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Yeah.
And then I watched all the way

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to the end of the third episode
and I was like, oh, oh okay.

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Yeah, never mind.
It’s a it’s pretty interesting

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will need to know what.
I think.

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What threw me off is I thought I
always knew kind of how this

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story went and that’s the Crux
of this documentary is.

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You might think you, you know,
the conspiracy angle behind this

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but it’s actually has more at
play than you would think.

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Yeah.
It’s actually a little bit

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crazier than that spoiler alert
Korea.

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Yeah and we’re going to we’re
going to go through the dot if

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you haven’t seen it.
Going to be some spoilers.

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You might want to watch it
first.

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Yeah.
Or watch the listen to this in

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lieu of one?
Yeah, it’s a six-hour

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investment.
You know, it’s gonna take a big

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chunk of your day and we’re here
to distill it down and make you

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a nice podcasting sour.
Mash version of the of the

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products and exact I might you
can’t you can’t exactly watching

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Netflix while you’re driving.
I guarantee our version will be

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slightly funnier.
Yeah, yeah I would hope so

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although there are some Chuckles
in already Had that great

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wormwood joke where I just did
1920s comedian voice and you

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just force laughs before.
You know what?

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I was getting at.
Exactly, yeah, you won’t find

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that on Netflix.
This it’s, you know, it’s weird

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how people ask you levity?
When there’s a CIA assassination

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plots?
It’s like, come on, man, what’s

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the point?
If you’re not gonna crack wise

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this is in.
It’s almost it’s a documentary,

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but it’s also kind of a movie,
like it’s both of those.

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It’s yeah.
It’s kind of an extended

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dramatization.
There’s a lot.

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Peter sarsgaard in.
Is that his name?

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I think so.
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Peter, sarsgaard plays Frank,
Olson.

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And then we lose those mess that
there weren’t at the airport’s.

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The sarsgaard.
Hey, that was that was the

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least, deserve their horn, I
think.

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And I’m Jakob sister, I got that
joke about halfway through the

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air horn going.
I just yeah.

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Courtesy yeah.
You know like when some lights

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green, just a little toot.
You know.

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Exactly.
So So yeah, let’s let’s talk

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about the, the first episode.
The subject of this documentary

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is Eric Olson.
He’s the son of Frank Olson and

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we find out right away that his
dad died when he was young and

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they asked him at one point.
What were you told when your

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father died and he says, he fell
out a window.

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Correction, he fell or jumped
out of window, which that alone

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is weird.
Yeah, like, I mean, this this,

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this document really does open
like Watchman?

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Yeah.
Yeah, it does.

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Yeah.
And like fell or jumped or to

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starkly different things so very
much so and that’s that’s kind

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of what they set it up with and
we find out right away that in

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1975.
It was revealed that Frank Olson

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killed himself after secretly
being dosed with LSD.

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Yeah, so they lead with that in
the very first episode and I

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don’t think they should have
because Because that it feels

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like they’re giving like the
ending away, and then they’re

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going to Tarantino it to get
back to how that happened.

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Yeah, I just do wonder if they
were kind of like we need a hook

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here.
Yeah, yeah.

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That could be, you know, and I
think it does some disservice to

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it but it could just be me in
like yep.

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I know.
That’s what happened.

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Yeah, and just kind of riding
the rest off but there is

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actually more to it.
Well, it’s sort of like watching

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an old TV show.
I’m like, I’ve been watching

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Star Trek the Next Generation.
Raishin, I’m like, well, I know

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data doesn’t die but I mean I
will, you know let that go for

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the duration of this episode be
like maybe data dies laughing.

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I hope not it’s please what a
Brent Spiner really needs these

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checks and then he’s alive,
great, you know, it’s like

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anything.
So we one of the things they

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talked about pretty early on is
the funeral of Frank, Olsen’s,

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dad.
And, or actually, I’m jumping

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ahead.
They Go into some details about

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this.
Revelation from the government

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that Frank Olson killed himself.
After being secretly dosed and

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what was interesting to me is it
seemed like when MKUltra broke.

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There was some bickering, over
the word, massive, it was

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described as and I think it’s
because there’s a headline that

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they show in this episode where
the word massive is in quotes,

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as if the CIA was like, yeah, we
did it, but not that.

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Yeah, my Let’s massive.
Really, you know, and I think

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that’s probably because they
thought they had eliminated all

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of the documents by that point.
Yeah.

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Because remember those guys
that’s that’s how we found out

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about.
It was the Miss filed documents,

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right?
And even just from what we saw

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from those, it was pretty
widespread, right?

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Yeah, it was huge.
If you haven’t listened to the

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MKUltra episode, go back and
listen to it, and you’ll know

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more about what we’re talking
about prerequisites is that,

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this is a mind-control 2201.
So, Exactly.

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So Seymour Hersh comes up in the
first episode.

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He’s a guy who he’s one of the
more interesting subjects in

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this thing because he’s an
investigative journalist who

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seems to be like equal parts,
encouraging.

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Eric Olson to look into this
more but also discouraging him

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from looking into it more.
Yeah.

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Either at like at various points
either just kind of flat out

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disagrees with him or he’s like
you to look into it but Cia Kill

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you.
Yeah, which that’s, that’s a

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terrifying thing to hear.
I mean, he’s making a fair

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point.
Yeah, you know, and this first

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episode, he writes an article
that ends in the Family holding

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a press conference.
Like how they weren’t just all

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murdered at that point, blows my
mind.

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Yeah, I mean, I wonder if they
have some kind of like, it’s

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almost like a data cap thing
with like, you know, families

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and murder.
They’re just like, you know

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what?
It’s, there’s a big overage fee.

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If we do To unsanctioned murders
in one calendar year.

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So we’re gonna have to wait
until the plane re-ups.

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Yeah I hope you can.
Maybe I could try to murder them

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on Wi-Fi but I don’t know if
they’d give me the password.

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Yeah I hope it’s just part of
the budget.

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Yes just not in that.
We have to wait till 76.

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I forget I forget what TV show
does.

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Think it might be Futurama where
they’re just they’re like

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briefing the president.
Like alright you get two murders

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a year.
No questions asked like I don’t

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like it probably is kind of like
that their proper.

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The probably is just like our
man.

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The the Stevenson’s I mean And
forgot about them because we

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really blew our whole murder cap
for this year.

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I mean, if I was Secret Service
or something that’s maybe

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something.
I just offer up day one like hey

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you’re here now.
Who do you want me to kill?

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Yes, is show you one person just
so you know I have your back.

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Yeah and so I could blackmail.
The president was something

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later.
Like if he ordered, I’d record

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it.
I’m never going to be in the

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Secret Service.
Know I met a guy who was in The

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Secret Service on 9/11 and it
was funny.

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I met In this guy like works at
this, one of the many bars in

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the middle of the middle of
nowhere that I perform at and I

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was just like, how did you end
up here?

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Like how did you go from the
Pentagon like on the big day to

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this little bullshit?
Farming town.

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It’s so weird.
Yeah.

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And it means they have an
answer.

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Not really I mean just so yeah
baby just kind of drunkenly like

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yeah that’s life, you know.
But that’s a thing of like you

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forget these are just like a
normal dude is because he talked

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to this guy and he’s like yeah
that particularly smart and not

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particularly You know, put
together, you know, as one of

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these dudes, usually I got a
video game themed bar and seven

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kids.
I barely see.

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And I was just like, wait, wait,
look at that back up.

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You got the 911 go on.
Yeah, that is.

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That’s interesting.
I’ve never known anyone who

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admitted to working for the
government.

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I’ve just known people that I
suspected worked like, my dad

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had this friend.
When I was a kid named.

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I’m not even gonna say his full
name because I’m still sure he’s

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out there.
Yeah, somewhere in the Espionage

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community.
But we could never figure out

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what that motherfucker did for a
living and he just kind of would

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pop up every once in a while and
be like, hey, I need to stay

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here, but he also had a ton of
fucking money.

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It was really weird.
Yeah, he seemed like he, he also

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had very strong opinions on the
fall of the Soviet Union at a

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time when most Americans didn’t
have a lot of strong opinions.

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Yeah.
Like in favor of the Soviet

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Union, so weird, man.
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repercussions, but just like
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perspective, what that kind of
role and responsibility will do

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to your psyche, like, how, how
that molds the Play-Doh up

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there.
Yeah, yeah.

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It’s and that’s a thing.
You think about a lot watching

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this documentary?
Like the situation, these people

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are like, as bad as you feel for
Frank Olson.

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I also kind of felt bad for the
people who had to oversee

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killing him.
Yeah.

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No.
You mean because it’s like, what

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are you gonna do?
What are you going to say?

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No.
Yeah that you know killed.

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Yeah, it’s like joining a
fucking gang.

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I mean, I guess I guess it’s
your fault for taking the job

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and pursuing it but I mean maybe
you didn’t realize that was part

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of it and by the time they’re
just like, well fuck.

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I mean, there’s someone above me
and I got a fucking do this.

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Yeah, I sometimes think the CIA
must go after like, the most

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idealistic government friendly
candidates, they can find and

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then just break them down.
I mean, I think, yeah, you kind

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of have to have that be like
there are people were, it’s

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like, you know, they’re there
yoga is their God or whatever.

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Like people kind of have
something.

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That’s that’s their thing.
That that’s kind of where they

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get.
And there are people that, you

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know, just have faith in
institutions.

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I mean, the last and last, you
know, these days.

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But I mean, you find these folks
and you have a process for

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waiting a man, you’re like,
well, yeah, let’s take that and

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exploit it because no one else
is going to do this shit, right?

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Yeah.
And that, that kind of seems to

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be Frank Olson, which they
talked a little bit.

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One.
Interesting thing that comes up.

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They talk a lot about his
funeral and Vincent re-wet.

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Vincent re-wet is one of the
most important figures in this

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documentary.
He was one of Frank Olsen’s best

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friends.
He was a co-worker and after the

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funeral he starts showing up
just to hang out with Alice

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Olson.
The the mom and Erik Olson,

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mentions that.
I’m kind of slides into

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alcoholism because Vincent
roulette would show up every day

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and drink fucking martinis.
Yeah.

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And we later find out the CIA
sent him there.

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They wanted him to keep keep an
eye on Mom and make sure she

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didn’t say anything crazy.
Yeah, which that’s terrifying.

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Because up to that point, they
viewed him as a family friend

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and he probably viewed them as
friends.

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But then, you know, like, the
assignment comes down, it’s like

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you gotta go push the narrative
in this direction.

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Correction.
Yeah, you know, the lubricate,

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the lubricant, the the movement,
with the, with the old martini

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glass and then what a fucking
job that would be my God.

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Yeah, grieving grieving wife
liaison, you know, it’s so

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shitty, but you’re just like, I
mean, you got to figure the

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people organizing this whole
cover-up, we’re just like, oh we

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got an end.
This guy’s perfect.

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He’s she’s just going to think
that he wants to come and tell

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you stories about Frank and then
bada-bing bada-boom.

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She’s over it.
Yeah.

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Yeah it So they talk about God
knows who’s in this fucking

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martinis.
We’ll get into that later.

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Yeah, for sure.
At this point, they talked a

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little bit about Frank Olsen’s
army career, and he started out

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as an agronomist.
And at one point just gets

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recruited to participate in a
biological weapons program at

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Fort Detrick.
And they bring this up to point

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out how this guy went from, like
Farm scientist to working on

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possible by Logical weapons like
overnight.

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Yeah, and one of the saddest
things they mention is the mom

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said she could tell when things
went well at work that day,

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because Frank would come home
really sad because all the

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rabbits died.
Oh my God.

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Yeah, that was pretty fucking
rough and like, imagine what

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that would do to you at because
being a farmer like A scientist

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interested in stuff like that.
Kind of implies that you care

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about animals a little bit.
Oh yeah, if you’re an agronomist

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you probably just.
I mean it’s not quite like he’s

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getting dressed in the morning
by bluebirds, all Disney

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princess, but I mean, it’s
probably somewhat similar.

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Yeah, and now you’re just
killing rabbits for work.

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Yeah, harsh.
And we also find out that the

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family never saw Frank’s Body
after he died, which seems

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really odd.
Some.

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Yeah, I mean I guess you know,
you fall out of a building they

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were trying to but it seems like
that should be up to the family.

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Yeah, I feel like they’ve got
like like just a tissue box.

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Full of like we murdered this
guy and covered it up tarps

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where they’re just like it.
Grab one out of the box like a

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key in the just.
Okay.

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Like goes over him, you know?
Yeah.

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Are you really shit?
Says are you sure you want to

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see it on the front of it and
big impact letters?

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So they do a bunch of at this
point.

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Dramatic reenactments and we see
Franco And getting dosed at the

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cabin in the woods.
There’s he goes on this work

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Retreat and this is the thing we
talked about in MKUltra.

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Yeah, he goes on this work
Retreat.

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Where Sidney Gottlieb?
Who just seems like a genuinely

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evil dude.
Yeah.

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Is kind of leading this Retreat
and he does really have like a

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Marvel villain ass name.
Oh yeah.

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So she got lie below.
He made the serum that turns

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him.
And in the documentary they get,

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I don’t remember the actor’s
name but he plays crazy people.

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Oil in every fucking roll.
He’s in.

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Yeah.
Like they nailed the casting of

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Sidney Gottlieb.
Like he talks weird.

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He’s got a limp.
Is a guy.

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Who’s like what Andy Serkis is
to Moshe can’t?

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Yeah, is the like yeah.
And so they’re there at this

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Retreat and everyone gets their
drink spiked with LSD.

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Hmm.
And Frank Olson seems like kind

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of a bummer because everyone
else is just like hanging out

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partying and he’s wigging the
fuck out like he’s having a bad

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trip.
Or something.

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And they don’t go into a lot of
details about what he did or

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what he said.
But he just comes back from that

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Retreat and says he made a
mistake and that doesn’t worse

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than the vague that I don’t want
to talk about it.

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Yeah.
Yeah.

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And we don’t really, we find out
later what that means.

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It becomes a really important
line.

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Yeah.
It’s where the end.

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We find out what that probably
means.

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But up to this point they just
make it seem like he was given

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LSD without knowing and it kind
of made him crazy.

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Yeah.
Send him into a depressive

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spiral.
And again, like knowing that you

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took a hallucinogen like that,
you’re like, okay, I’m going to

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grade my perception of reality
on that curve.

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And even in my intoxicated
State, I am aware and people

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will remind me that this is
because I intentionally took

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these mind-altering drugs, but
not knowing why that’s

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happening.
It’s got to be the fucking

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worst.
Yeah, absolutely like Surprise

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high as a bad time.
Oh, for sure.

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Yeah.
Like if you smoke, just even if

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you smoke too much weed and it
hits you in a bad way.

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It’s a thing.
You have to ride out back to

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chat while tonight exactly.
It’s not, it’s never enjoyable.

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And so, that’s kind of the, the
Crux of the first episode.

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They, they say the they
basically say the CIA drug,

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Frank Olson, and it led him to
commit suicide and then they end

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the episode showing Us him
getting drugged.

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They also talked about how after
this press conference.

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This family was invited to the
White House to receive a

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personal apology from Gerald
Ford.

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Yeah.
Which you got to be like could

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we have done this two years
earlier later so I can have a

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cool president you know and
apologize.

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So I go-go boy Gerald Ford.
Yeah who wouldn’t want to hear

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Nixon issue his first apology of
all time?

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Yeah yeah.
It’s like all right.

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All right Adam you’re going to
meet Nirvana.

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It’s just Pat smears, guitar
tech, you know, like I’d still

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be pretty cool.
But I mean yeah my first was

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like, doesn’t seem like he’s
doing a lot.

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Yeah, exactly.
What is he writing books in

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Seattle?
Come on, one thing that was

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interesting.
Did you notice the clock in the

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first episode?
I didn’t until you pointed it

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out here?
Yeah, the clock, there’s a clock

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really prominently over Erik
Olson shoulder during all of his

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interviews in the first.
Uh sewed and about halfway

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through, I realized this guy
either talks faster than anyone

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in history or that clocks not
moving.

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Yeah because it’s always at 2:33
that’s what time it always says

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on that clock.
Yeah.

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So if you watch this and did
someone’s checking their phone

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right now and it’s 233 as
they’re listening outside.

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Just want to say.
Shout out to 38 here, we just

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miss.
Oh wow!

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Thanks very Christ.
That would have been bad so

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that’s the end of.
And at the end of the Episode is

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where the parallels to Hamlet,
start which well, I did not need

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that.
Yeah, okay.

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That’s this does nothing for
like, this is not where we’re

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watching this documentary at the
very least.

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This could have been five
episodes without that bullshit.

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Yeah.
Right.

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You do not need.
It could really cut some fat

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without all these analogies.
So, episode 2 opens with Olson

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talking to Alice about how Frank
Olson talking about how the

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retreat didn’t go well and he
made a terrible mistake.

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Like we just mentioned and from
there they cover.

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His time between when he comes
back from this Retreat.

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And when he finally goes to
commit suicide.

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Yeah.
Basically and I don’t know if

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you could see the gigantic air
quotes, Adam threw out his back,

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putting that a statement, they
go to see a movie at one point.

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Martin Luther, Alice thinks
maybe it was a bad idea judging

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from the Clips in the
documentary.

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I think she was right.
Yeah, especially if he was still

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on LSD of any sort.
Yeah, looks like a very intense

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film.
You want to go with like a Thor

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Ragnarok.
Rock something, just fun, and

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fun and flirty, that was a fun
movie.

436
00:22:28,100 –> 00:22:30,200
I saw it on a plane finally.
And I was like, this is great.

437
00:22:30,200 –> 00:22:31,900
How do they fit so much?
Shit in this movie?

438
00:22:31,900 –> 00:22:33,100
I fucking loved it.
It was great.

439
00:22:33,100 –> 00:22:35,100
It was good comedy.
It was so good.

440
00:22:37,300 –> 00:22:41,500
So at one point Olson, while
he’s back from this Retreat,

441
00:22:41,500 –> 00:22:44,300
says he wants to quit his job.
He goes into work to do that.

442
00:22:44,600 –> 00:22:48,400
And one of the creepiest moments
happens, he goes in and talks to

443
00:22:48,400 –> 00:22:53,800
his supervisor, his supervisor
excuses, Sydney or excuses for

444
00:22:53,900 –> 00:22:56,300
Frank from the room and then
picks up the phone and just

445
00:22:56,300 –> 00:23:01,700
says, get me Robert lashbrooke.
So who the fuck’s, Robert

446
00:23:01,700 –> 00:23:06,700
lashbrooke, we don’t really find
that out right away, but no, it

447
00:23:06,700 –> 00:23:08,700
comes up.
But that scene was, especially

448
00:23:08,700 –> 00:23:11,600
like, when that happened, you
know, something’s afoot, he’s

449
00:23:11,600 –> 00:23:15,900
not an HR, you know, he’s this
is not the, the severance

450
00:23:15,900 –> 00:23:18,800
package liaison, definitely not.
No.

451
00:23:18,800 –> 00:23:21,100
It’s got to be a little more
Sinister than that.

452
00:23:21,300 –> 00:23:23,400
One of the things I found
interesting was the Colby

453
00:23:23,400 –> 00:23:26,100
documents.
They talk about this guy, I

454
00:23:26,100 –> 00:23:29,200
think it was William Colby had
all of these documents

455
00:23:29,200 –> 00:23:32,600
pertaining to the death.
Frank Olson that he gives to the

456
00:23:32,600 –> 00:23:35,800
family and this is two years
before that, Freedom of

457
00:23:35,808 –> 00:23:39,400
Information Act where all the
MKUltra documents came out.

458
00:23:39,400 –> 00:23:42,100
So I wonder what these documents
were.

459
00:23:42,100 –> 00:23:45,000
Yeah, what they had if anything
crossed over probably not

460
00:23:45,000 –> 00:23:47,400
because of its small amount of
documents from MKUltra, that

461
00:23:47,400 –> 00:23:50,800
actually survived due to that
filing error, but it is, it is

462
00:23:50,800 –> 00:23:54,500
kind of interesting and it it at
this point, it seems like the

463
00:23:54,500 –> 00:23:58,900
CIA and the government in
general is being really, really

464
00:23:58,900 –> 00:24:02,900
open about the fact.
The fact that they drugged this

465
00:24:02,900 –> 00:24:06,100
guy in an experiment and it
caused him to commit suicide and

466
00:24:06,100 –> 00:24:07,400
their sorry.
Yeah.

467
00:24:07,400 –> 00:24:11,100
And it’s like the I think the,
the kind of the Crux of the

468
00:24:11,800 –> 00:24:15,400
assertion being made is like by
them copping to that it was that

469
00:24:15,400 –> 00:24:17,900
was supposed to be like, well,
clearly this looks so bad that

470
00:24:17,900 –> 00:24:19,200
this has got to be the whole
truth.

471
00:24:19,200 –> 00:24:22,700
When in fact it was a you know,
this guy was asking questions

472
00:24:22,700 –> 00:24:25,200
and we killed him and pretended.
It was suicide.

473
00:24:25,200 –> 00:24:28,800
But right we drugged yeah yeah
it’s a crazy story.

474
00:24:28,800 –> 00:24:31,300
Meant to hide a crazier.
Yeah, basically.

475
00:24:31,800 –> 00:24:37,100
And so at one point after he’s
been home for a bit, they go.

476
00:24:37,100 –> 00:24:39,500
He and Alice go to drive to the
office.

477
00:24:39,500 –> 00:24:43,100
And when they get there, someone
comes out and tells Alice that

478
00:24:43,200 –> 00:24:46,300
another agent is going to drive
her home and that Frank’s going

479
00:24:46,300 –> 00:24:50,100
back to New York, which at that
point.

480
00:24:50,200 –> 00:24:52,400
Frank probably knew he was going
to die.

481
00:24:52,500 –> 00:24:57,000
Yeah, he’s not thinking like
okay well this is a I’m getting

482
00:24:57,000 –> 00:24:59,500
a gold watch, you know, like
what are they doing?

483
00:24:59,600 –> 00:25:04,600
And even if the official story
that he was just drugged and

484
00:25:04,600 –> 00:25:07,400
freaked out and killed himself
is true.

485
00:25:07,500 –> 00:25:09,200
He probably still had that
thought.

486
00:25:09,300 –> 00:25:13,500
Oh yeah, especially if the the
other version of events where he

487
00:25:13,500 –> 00:25:16,600
was murdered for knowing too
much and threatening to say

488
00:25:16,600 –> 00:25:18,500
something about it.
That part’s true.

489
00:25:18,500 –> 00:25:20,500
He definitely knew he was about
to die.

490
00:25:20,500 –> 00:25:22,200
Yeah probably.
But what do you do?

491
00:25:22,300 –> 00:25:24,400
I don’t know man.
I mean what you’re on fight

492
00:25:24,400 –> 00:25:26,900
against it.
You know you can bring more hell

493
00:25:26,900 –> 00:25:28,500
upon your family that’s coming
already.

494
00:25:28,500 –> 00:25:31,700
Just fucking kill the people.
Trying to take you like, there’s

495
00:25:31,700 –> 00:25:34,800
nothing you can do.
Yeah, what a fucking situation?

496
00:25:34,800 –> 00:25:37,900
It’s like, well, do I either,
you know, want to go have this

497
00:25:37,900 –> 00:25:40,500
done on their terms or just
happen alone in my bed and with

498
00:25:40,500 –> 00:25:42,600
some like, fake Intruder,
they’ve cooked up.

499
00:25:42,600 –> 00:25:45,400
And when they brainwashed, a
homeless guy to come in and

500
00:25:45,400 –> 00:25:48,600
stabbed with an ice pick like
choices aren’t great.

501
00:25:48,600 –> 00:25:52,400
No.
And the first, they take him to

502
00:25:52,500 –> 00:25:55,600
a guy named dr.
Abramson who’s an allergist

503
00:25:55,600 –> 00:25:59,800
which that seems like a weird
choice but yeah it makes sense.

504
00:26:00,400 –> 00:26:04,800
In the end.
And this is a really weird part

505
00:26:04,800 –> 00:26:06,600
in the dot.
Do you remember the experiment

506
00:26:06,600 –> 00:26:07,800
they did?
Yeah.

507
00:26:07,900 –> 00:26:13,100
On him where that he had Frank
lay down and put like a lamp

508
00:26:13,100 –> 00:26:17,000
cover over his head and shined a
light on it and just asked him

509
00:26:17,000 –> 00:26:23,500
all these weird questions and it
just seemed like they did this

510
00:26:23,500 –> 00:26:26,500
experiment.
He wigged out in their solution

511
00:26:26,500 –> 00:26:29,000
was.
Let’s do a few more experiments.

512
00:26:29,400 –> 00:26:31,500
I see how it goes.
Almost kind of seems like they

513
00:26:31,500 –> 00:26:35,000
were like, well, this guy is
this guy is like done.

514
00:26:35,000 –> 00:26:38,100
He’s got to get out of here.
We might as well get a little

515
00:26:38,100 –> 00:26:40,100
more mileage out of him.
Yeah, man.

516
00:26:40,100 –> 00:26:43,300
Well, yeah, you know or they
were yeah, I don’t know.

517
00:26:43,300 –> 00:26:46,800
Or they were just trying to make
him actually crazy.

518
00:26:46,900 –> 00:26:50,100
Yeah, I mean maybe just you know
hey if you get you get a phone

519
00:26:50,100 –> 00:26:51,800
call to Alice you’re going to
sound even weirder.

520
00:26:51,900 –> 00:26:57,700
Yeah and so that happens.
And shortly after that they cut

521
00:26:57,700 –> 00:27:00,700
to the the news that at one
point, the family gets a seven

522
00:27:00,700 –> 00:27:04,000
hundred and fifty thousand
dollar settlement from the

523
00:27:04,000 –> 00:27:06,900
government for the death of
their father.

524
00:27:07,000 –> 00:27:09,100
Yeah.
And it includes Alice getting

525
00:27:09,100 –> 00:27:12,100
all of his benefits Sidney.
Gottlieb gives a really

526
00:27:12,100 –> 00:27:16,100
backhanded line where he says,
we’ll make sure you get all the

527
00:27:16,100 –> 00:27:22,300
benefits, your husband deserved,
and it seems like a payoff,

528
00:27:22,300 –> 00:27:25,300
that’s what Eric Olson took it
as because it says, yeah.

529
00:27:25,400 –> 00:27:27,800
Basically some payoff.
Yeah, they sign an agreement

530
00:27:27,800 –> 00:27:30,800
that they can’t ask any more
questions, which it’s like,

531
00:27:30,800 –> 00:27:32,900
yeah, no more further legal
action.

532
00:27:32,900 –> 00:27:35,500
It’s like, okay, I guess that
makes sense. 47, no more

533
00:27:35,500 –> 00:27:37,200
questions?
Yeah.

534
00:27:37,200 –> 00:27:38,700
Yes.
Is this woman’s husband?

535
00:27:38,700 –> 00:27:40,700
That’s dead this kid’s.
Father, that’s dead.

536
00:27:40,700 –> 00:27:44,900
No more questions.
And he, you know, he basically

537
00:27:44,900 –> 00:27:48,200
hints that his mom just didn’t
want to know what happened.

538
00:27:48,200 –> 00:27:52,000
Like, it’s bad enough that her
And I’d like, is it going to

539
00:27:52,000 –> 00:27:56,500
make her feel better to know
that his friend was complicit in

540
00:27:56,500 –> 00:27:59,900
his death?
Yeah, and then came and babysat

541
00:27:59,900 –> 00:28:03,000
her for years after to make sure
she didn’t ask too many

542
00:28:03,000 –> 00:28:04,600
questions.
And again, I mean much, they

543
00:28:04,600 –> 00:28:07,400
kind of emphasizing with those
those dudes that have had might

544
00:28:07,400 –> 00:28:09,400
have had to kill him.
It’s kind of like, kind of get

545
00:28:09,400 –> 00:28:11,800
it.
Yeah, you know, and, you know,

546
00:28:11,800 –> 00:28:15,500
maybe she knew like maybe she
knew that’s what happened and

547
00:28:15,500 –> 00:28:16,600
it’s and she’s like, I don’t
know.

548
00:28:16,600 –> 00:28:19,100
Yeah, I guess I mean, I’d rather
have this money then not and

549
00:28:19,100 –> 00:28:20,500
I’ll just Yeah, fucking
whatever.

550
00:28:20,500 –> 00:28:25,000
Like I just want to, and in the
most CIA development possible,

551
00:28:25,300 –> 00:28:30,000
not long after the settlement
Erik Olson, sister her husband

552
00:28:30,000 –> 00:28:32,900
and their kids are killed in a
small plane crash.

553
00:28:33,300 –> 00:28:37,800
Not long after getting that
money, which I’m sure it’s

554
00:28:37,800 –> 00:28:41,000
nothing.
Of course, I’m sure that is just

555
00:28:41,000 –> 00:28:45,500
a coincidence, they talked about
a bunch of stuff about Eric’s

556
00:28:45,500 –> 00:28:48,900
collages, which I don’t give a
shit about, yeah, but they do

557
00:28:48,900 –> 00:28:53,400
show one of It has the clock or
has the time set for 2:30, 3:00

558
00:28:53,400 –> 00:28:58,400
a.m. and they kind of hint that
he did that before he found out

559
00:28:58,400 –> 00:29:01,100
that that’s when his dad died.
But I don’t believe.

560
00:29:01,100 –> 00:29:03,900
Yeah, I kind of don’t either.
And then even then that’s just

561
00:29:03,900 –> 00:29:05,000
what a quote.
That’s like what, he’s

562
00:29:05,000 –> 00:29:07,100
predicting the future.
Now, what are you saying here?

563
00:29:07,200 –> 00:29:10,400
Yeah.
So so then the rest of the

564
00:29:10,500 –> 00:29:15,700
episode is about the rest of
episode two, is Frank at this

565
00:29:15,700 –> 00:29:19,400
hotel where he eventually dies
the weirdest.

566
00:29:19,600 –> 00:29:23,800
To me, they get back to the
hotel and Vincent were wet, says

567
00:29:24,100 –> 00:29:27,900
here have some of that whiskey.
The doctor gave you, the show

568
00:29:27,900 –> 00:29:31,900
doesn’t start for another hour.
So he was given whiskey by the

569
00:29:31,900 –> 00:29:33,600
psychiatrist.
He had just seen.

570
00:29:33,700 –> 00:29:36,800
Yeah, which was almost
undoubtedly laced with LSD.

571
00:29:36,800 –> 00:29:39,200
That’s likely.
This is like some 1830s asked

572
00:29:39,200 –> 00:29:40,700
Madison.
Gave the take some of that

573
00:29:40,700 –> 00:29:42,300
whiskey.
The doctor just gave you.

574
00:29:42,300 –> 00:29:46,200
What, like, what psychiatrist
says, oh, here’s what’s going to

575
00:29:46,200 –> 00:29:49,000
fix your depression.
Whoo, yeah.

576
00:29:49,000 –> 00:29:53,500
Yeah.
Never happens and but Frank

577
00:29:53,500 –> 00:29:56,500
drinks it?
Yep this award dentist get some

578
00:29:56,500 –> 00:29:59,700
all fixed up.
He gets right at it and then

579
00:29:59,700 –> 00:30:05,000
they go out to a show and Frank
freaks out while they’re at the

580
00:30:05,000 –> 00:30:07,500
it’s like a play or some shit.
Yeah.

581
00:30:07,600 –> 00:30:10,400
And Frank started.
Imagine how imagine having the

582
00:30:10,400 –> 00:30:12,000
last thing you get to watch
before you die?

583
00:30:12,000 –> 00:30:14,200
Be a play.
Can I?

584
00:30:14,200 –> 00:30:15,700
So Aang.
Can I at least just check out

585
00:30:15,700 –> 00:30:18,000
Pulp Fiction.
One more time with some porn or

586
00:30:18,000 –> 00:30:21,900
something like could I They play
a video game like a show of all

587
00:30:21,900 –> 00:30:25,100
the things to have to choose his
last year table to fucking play.

588
00:30:25,200 –> 00:30:28,100
Yeah, a play or an opera would
really bum me out.

589
00:30:28,100 –> 00:30:30,000
Maybe that was the trick.
We’re going to get him drunk and

590
00:30:30,000 –> 00:30:32,800
board and then aqui hockey.
Yeah.

591
00:30:32,900 –> 00:30:34,700
I don’t want to watch any of
those things when I’m dying.

592
00:30:34,700 –> 00:30:36,800
Now, I think he was at this
play, just kind of like, God,

593
00:30:36,800 –> 00:30:40,400
threw me out of fucking window.
Probably.

594
00:30:40,900 –> 00:30:46,400
And so that’s that’s kind of
what they cover in episode 2 and

595
00:30:46,400 –> 00:30:49,400
episode 2 does feel like it’s
really dry.

596
00:30:49,600 –> 00:30:53,300
On out the first three episodes
feel like they could have maybe

597
00:30:53,300 –> 00:30:56,200
been compiled into one this.
I feel like this could have been

598
00:30:56,200 –> 00:30:59,100
a bang into our.
Yeah, doc, yeah.

599
00:30:59,300 –> 00:31:02,700
It it’s a lot to get through and
that part is frustrating, but

600
00:31:02,700 –> 00:31:05,400
the story.
Especially when we get into

601
00:31:05,400 –> 00:31:09,500
episode 3, right near the end of
episode, three really picks up.

602
00:31:09,500 –> 00:31:13,400
Yeah, and it gets interesting,
but at the end of episode 2,

603
00:31:13,700 –> 00:31:17,500
Vincent roulette gets a wake-up
call at 2:30 in the morning,

604
00:31:17,500 –> 00:31:22,800
which I feel like that part.
Art did not happen because as

605
00:31:22,800 –> 00:31:26,900
we’ll find out, in terms of how
the murder happened, you’re not

606
00:31:26,900 –> 00:31:30,300
going to ask for a wake-up call
from the front lobby three

607
00:31:30,300 –> 00:31:32,500
minutes after the murder.
Yeah, let’s do it.

608
00:31:32,600 –> 00:31:35,700
Yeah, right.
No, actually Maybe I’m Wrong.

609
00:31:35,700 –> 00:31:41,700
Maybe it was lashbrooke call or
who the No Regret was in the

610
00:31:41,700 –> 00:31:45,200
room with Franco’s and I’m
getting ahead of myself but and

611
00:31:45,200 –> 00:31:48,900
I think it’s lashbrooke who gets
the phone call, but I thought it

612
00:31:48,900 –> 00:31:51,000
was weird.
Our way because yeah, the other

613
00:31:51,000 –> 00:31:52,900
suspicious guy gets a wake-up
call.

614
00:31:53,000 –> 00:31:54,500
Yeah.
Just just want to make sure

615
00:31:54,500 –> 00:31:56,400
you’re up for the murder but
either.

616
00:31:57,600 –> 00:31:59,000
We’re phone records.
Not a thing.

617
00:31:59,000 –> 00:32:01,400
You could trace back.
I mean, maybe they weren’t like,

618
00:32:01,400 –> 00:32:03,300
wouldn’t the hotel?
No, no, I don’t know if you

619
00:32:03,300 –> 00:32:05,800
could, it’s, I mean, unless
you’ve had testimony from, like,

620
00:32:05,800 –> 00:32:08,100
the receptionist or whatever,
doesn’t seem like there would be

621
00:32:08,100 –> 00:32:12,000
like a, yeah, a record of that
because this was all in just

622
00:32:12,000 –> 00:32:15,500
fucking wired days.
So dumbest things I’ve said in

623
00:32:15,508 –> 00:32:19,800
the podcast back in the wire
days, why are they just the

624
00:32:19,800 –> 00:32:22,300
2000s before we knew a good
television really?

625
00:32:23,200 –> 00:32:28,100
So yeah, actually I think it was
re-wet calling and He calls

626
00:32:28,100 –> 00:32:31,700
lashbrooke to say that Frank has
disappeared.

627
00:32:32,200 –> 00:32:36,200
And lashbrooke says, he has to
report Frank’s disappearance to

628
00:32:36,200 –> 00:32:38,300
the security office.
And at that point, you think

629
00:32:38,300 –> 00:32:41,600
he’s dead but they find Frank
just hanging out in the lobby.

630
00:32:41,700 –> 00:32:44,300
Yeah.
But after they make that call to

631
00:32:44,300 –> 00:32:48,400
the security office, everyone’s
getting watched basically and

632
00:32:48,700 –> 00:32:52,600
the security office is coming,
the security office is a crazy

633
00:32:52,600 –> 00:32:55,500
Concept.
In this, like they I don’t know

634
00:32:55,500 –> 00:32:59,300
if I put it in the notes but in
one They basically say that the

635
00:32:59,300 –> 00:33:05,800
CIA is made up of like really
smart types, like people like me

636
00:33:05,800 –> 00:33:11,200
and you would be probably on the
investigative side of the CIA

637
00:33:11,200 –> 00:33:15,500
and not so much the murder side.
Yeah they make we’re to we got

638
00:33:15,500 –> 00:33:18,900
to too many follow-ups, right?
You know, it’s a do we really

639
00:33:18,900 –> 00:33:21,700
want to do the piano wire for
this?

640
00:33:21,800 –> 00:33:22,600
You know?
I yeah.

641
00:33:22,600 –> 00:33:25,600
I feel like rice and would be
better just hear me out.

642
00:33:25,600 –> 00:33:27,300
Yeah.
We would overthink it for sure.

643
00:33:27,400 –> 00:33:28,600
Yeah.
I mean I had this problem

644
00:33:28,600 –> 00:33:31,900
working at Ross Dress for Less
where I’d be like, well I mean

645
00:33:31,900 –> 00:33:34,600
if we’re going to do stock right
now, I mean, wouldn’t it make

646
00:33:34,600 –> 00:33:37,400
more sense to expedite the
customers and they be like, shut

647
00:33:37,400 –> 00:33:40,800
up and move the boxes and I’d be
like, oh I forgot I’m a slave

648
00:33:40,800 –> 00:33:44,800
like so yeah.
The the security office they

649
00:33:44,800 –> 00:33:51,100
imply is basically the murder
wing of the CIA and they bet the

650
00:33:51,100 –> 00:33:54,300
way they plug into Pokemon
attack, Pidgeot used murder

651
00:33:54,300 –> 00:33:57,100
Wing.
The way they put it is that

652
00:33:57,200 –> 00:34:00,200
these The agents at the time
could call the security office

653
00:34:00,200 –> 00:34:04,300
and say this guy is a problem
and the security office will go.

654
00:34:04,300 –> 00:34:08,400
Okay, we’ll come take care of it
and nobody ever talked about why

655
00:34:08,800 –> 00:34:11,800
it needed to be done or how it
was going to be done.

656
00:34:12,100 –> 00:34:14,500
They would just say, all right,
we’ll be here at this time.

657
00:34:14,500 –> 00:34:17,800
Yeah, be ready.
And you like the tow truck

658
00:34:17,800 –> 00:34:20,300
driver and blue life.
Where he’s just like god, dammit

659
00:34:20,300 –> 00:34:24,100
AAA said me out at 2:00 in the
morning and this is this is the

660
00:34:24,100 –> 00:34:29,199
United States like this is the
United It’s running a basically,

661
00:34:29,199 –> 00:34:32,100
a police organization that
murders dissidents.

662
00:34:32,199 –> 00:34:34,600
Yes, that’s what this builds up
to.

663
00:34:35,199 –> 00:34:39,400
And that’s, that’s terrifying
dissidents that they, you know,

664
00:34:39,400 –> 00:34:42,000
I mean this guy will different
others later but it’s like the

665
00:34:42,000 –> 00:34:45,699
big issues here are of your own
creation, you know.

666
00:34:45,699 –> 00:34:50,600
It’s like we put the pets down
and we also microwaved the pets,

667
00:34:51,300 –> 00:34:53,800
you know?
Like they did both of it so they

668
00:34:53,800 –> 00:34:55,199
got to have a clean up
Department.

669
00:34:55,199 –> 00:34:58,200
Yeah.
So they call this Security

670
00:34:58,200 –> 00:35:03,300
Office even though they do
eventually find Frank and this

671
00:35:03,300 –> 00:35:05,700
is when we’re really introduced
to Sidney Gottlieb.

672
00:35:05,700 –> 00:35:07,400
We had seen him up to this
point.

673
00:35:07,400 –> 00:35:09,700
Yeah, it’s more.
So just kind of alluded to yeah

674
00:35:09,700 –> 00:35:15,800
but now he’s really in the
picture and they mentioned that

675
00:35:15,900 –> 00:35:18,100
Sidney.
Gottlieb, who keep in mind as we

676
00:35:18,100 –> 00:35:21,600
mentioned on the last episode
was the head chemist on the

677
00:35:21,600 –> 00:35:25,800
MKUltra program.
They also in this suggests that

678
00:35:25,800 –> 00:35:30,100
he was linked to attempt.
To kill Patrice lumumba and

679
00:35:30,100 –> 00:35:33,300
Fidel Castro.
Yeah, and this is a quote from

680
00:35:33,300 –> 00:35:35,500
the documentary.
So to say he’s involved in the

681
00:35:35,500 –> 00:35:39,400
assassination of Frank Olson
isn’t much of a leap.

682
00:35:39,900 –> 00:35:42,200
I agree with that.
Yeah, they call the security

683
00:35:42,200 –> 00:35:44,300
office and then Sidney Gottlieb.
Shows up.

684
00:35:44,700 –> 00:35:47,100
Well, actually, I think we find
out Sidney Gottlieb.

685
00:35:47,100 –> 00:35:51,000
Was there the entire time?
Yeah, like he was just kind of

686
00:35:51,500 –> 00:35:54,000
just there, and I was just, I
was just here to see, you know,

687
00:35:54,500 –> 00:35:56,300
my fair lady on Broadway, or
well.

688
00:35:56,300 –> 00:36:03,000
Yeah, what Seems like to me is
them taking one more shot at

689
00:36:03,000 –> 00:36:06,000
deciding.
If Frank is really going to be a

690
00:36:06,000 –> 00:36:10,800
problem or if there’s a way they
can fix this like just a couple

691
00:36:10,800 –> 00:36:12,800
more days to monitor him.
Yeah.

692
00:36:12,900 –> 00:36:14,700
Before they murder him.
Yeah.

693
00:36:14,700 –> 00:36:16,200
Yeah.
Just kind of like let’s just

694
00:36:16,200 –> 00:36:19,200
double-check, you know, he’s had
some good killed a lot of

695
00:36:19,200 –> 00:36:21,900
rabbits for us.
Yeah, I know either that or they

696
00:36:21,900 –> 00:36:26,400
were just kind of laying
groundwork to be able to deny

697
00:36:26,600 –> 00:36:29,400
murdering him.
Am I going to all these places

698
00:36:29,400 –> 00:36:31,900
and saying he’s crazy, we got to
take him to New York, he’s

699
00:36:31,900 –> 00:36:33,300
crazy.
We got to take him to New York.

700
00:36:33,300 –> 00:36:35,100
Everyone would be like, yeah, he
was really depressed and he was

701
00:36:35,100 –> 00:36:37,400
crazy and then he jumped out
that window when they got to New

702
00:36:37,400 –> 00:36:38,100
York.
Yeah.

703
00:36:38,500 –> 00:36:41,400
But either way, scary.
It’s really fucking scared.

704
00:36:41,400 –> 00:36:42,400
Oh, totally.
Yeah.

705
00:36:42,400 –> 00:36:44,000
Why?
This is like the dude, you know,

706
00:36:44,000 –> 00:36:48,500
this is the Nick Fury of the
mind-control killing people and

707
00:36:48,500 –> 00:36:51,300
MKUltra.
They touch on a little bit.

708
00:36:51,800 –> 00:36:55,200
They mentioned that Gottlieb and
lashbrooke were both at Frank’s

709
00:36:55,200 –> 00:36:59,400
Funeral, or they were at least
on the A registry which is

710
00:36:59,600 –> 00:37:02,300
Harsh.
And then that’s weird.

711
00:37:02,400 –> 00:37:05,000
Yeah, you know, that’s like a,
all right, all right.

712
00:37:05,100 –> 00:37:07,300
Easy one, Suge Knight here to
see you.

713
00:37:08,800 –> 00:37:13,600
It’s a lot like that.
Yeah and they cut to at this

714
00:37:13,600 –> 00:37:19,200
point, the family going to see
lashbrooke in 1984 and Robert

715
00:37:19,200 –> 00:37:22,000
lash by lash Brooke.
This is when we find out Sidney,

716
00:37:22,000 –> 00:37:25,200
Gottlieb was in New York the
entire time Frank was there.

717
00:37:25,200 –> 00:37:27,500
Yeah.
And up to this point, the We had

718
00:37:27,500 –> 00:37:34,100
been told that Sidney Gottlieb
was back in DC I believe and

719
00:37:34,700 –> 00:37:36,500
lashbrooke.
Lets out that Sidney.

720
00:37:36,500 –> 00:37:38,200
Gottlieb, was there the whole
time.

721
00:37:38,400 –> 00:37:42,100
So that’s the thing that really
sends Eric Olson on this path

722
00:37:42,500 –> 00:37:44,900
down like this thing consumes
his entire life.

723
00:37:45,000 –> 00:37:47,400
Oh, yeah.
Of course, which that’s not

724
00:37:47,400 –> 00:37:49,500
surprising the government killed
his father.

725
00:37:49,800 –> 00:37:53,100
Like murdered his father.
Yeah, I mean, you gotta, if

726
00:37:53,100 –> 00:37:56,300
you’re going to look at for a
drum to beat, you know, and it

727
00:37:56,300 –> 00:38:00,900
seems like With them being as
open as they were, you know,

728
00:38:00,900 –> 00:38:04,200
that it was their fault at least
to the extent that he killed

729
00:38:04,200 –> 00:38:06,500
himself, because he was crazy,
because they drugged him, right?

730
00:38:06,500 –> 00:38:10,300
They seem to be pretty open
about that and I think that made

731
00:38:10,300 –> 00:38:14,600
it easier for him to go public
with everything else.

732
00:38:14,700 –> 00:38:15,800
Yeah.
Me like, I mean, that already

733
00:38:15,800 –> 00:38:18,300
made the settlement and all that
stuff, because at one point,

734
00:38:18,300 –> 00:38:22,400
they like this builds up to
them, attempting to file,

735
00:38:22,400 –> 00:38:25,900
criminal murder charges against
the CIA.

736
00:38:26,400 –> 00:38:31,500
And Man that probably would have
gotten him murdered if not for

737
00:38:31,500 –> 00:38:34,100
the fact in the 70s they were so
open about.

738
00:38:34,100 –> 00:38:36,400
Hey sorry, we accidentally
killed your dad.

739
00:38:36,400 –> 00:38:38,000
Yeah.
Like you can’t hardly kill him

740
00:38:38,000 –> 00:38:38,800
now.
Yeah.

741
00:38:38,800 –> 00:38:40,700
I mean this.
That’s at that’s at a point

742
00:38:40,700 –> 00:38:43,400
where that uses up a lot of that
murder data, you know what I

743
00:38:43,400 –> 00:38:45,100
mean?
Like, how badly do you want this

744
00:38:45,100 –> 00:38:46,700
story to go away?
And it’s not a story, you hear a

745
00:38:46,707 –> 00:38:49,600
lot about, I mean, yes, finally
getting a Netflix documentary

746
00:38:49,600 –> 00:38:51,400
about it.
What, 32 years later?

747
00:38:51,700 –> 00:38:55,800
Yeah, it’s crazy.
That this wasn’t bigger news

748
00:38:56,400 –> 00:39:00,500
like the I don’t remember here
and shit like I’m a lot of

749
00:39:00,500 –> 00:39:01,400
stuff.
This guy doesn’t even come

750
00:39:01,400 –> 00:39:04,300
across as particularly crazy.
No, no not at all.

751
00:39:04,300 –> 00:39:08,700
Yeah, he seems really like he
seems like a guy who’s convinced

752
00:39:08,700 –> 00:39:11,100
his dad was murdered and yeah I
know what happened.

753
00:39:11,300 –> 00:39:15,900
Like there’s nothing crazy about
him and I’m old enough that

754
00:39:15,900 –> 00:39:20,300
especially as he gets into like
exhuming, his dad’s body and

755
00:39:20,300 –> 00:39:22,700
filing these lawsuits.
I’m old enough that I would have

756
00:39:22,700 –> 00:39:26,500
heard that shit in the news.
Like I’m I vividly remember the

757
00:39:26,500 –> 00:39:28,400
fucking Iran.
In Contra hearings.

758
00:39:28,400 –> 00:39:31,400
Oh yeah.
And that was like 87 88.

759
00:39:31,400 –> 00:39:33,400
Yeah.
So I would have remembered if

760
00:39:33,400 –> 00:39:36,100
this was really big news as it
should have been, but it wasn’t

761
00:39:36,100 –> 00:39:38,100
reported on but it wasn’t
because I mean there’s even more

762
00:39:38,100 –> 00:39:41,000
of a bottleneck of disseminating
information but right.

763
00:39:41,000 –> 00:39:42,200
Because we didn’t have the
internet.

764
00:39:42,200 –> 00:39:43,500
Yeah this.
Yeah.

765
00:39:43,500 –> 00:39:48,800
So it again this is also kind of
like a like a real like a real

766
00:39:48,800 –> 00:39:50,200
murder.
He sweet spot.

767
00:39:50,300 –> 00:39:53,100
You know because it’s just yeah
Freedom of Information Act.

768
00:39:53,100 –> 00:39:55,800
You know like just and it’s just
like yeah this was kind of like

769
00:39:55,800 –> 00:39:58,000
you kind of got it in Under The
Wire Right.

770
00:39:58,000 –> 00:39:59,700
Yeah, yeah.
It’s like it’s like people that

771
00:39:59,700 –> 00:40:02,200
are born just before they had
their entire life history and

772
00:40:02,200 –> 00:40:04,500
the you know them saying the
n-word on MySpace could come

773
00:40:04,500 –> 00:40:06,100
out.
It’s kind of like that but with

774
00:40:06,100 –> 00:40:06,900
murder.
Yeah.

775
00:40:06,900 –> 00:40:08,800
Yeah.
And it seems like it all

776
00:40:08,800 –> 00:40:10,900
happened at a time when our
government was like.

777
00:40:10,900 –> 00:40:17,100
So those Nazis, if you take the
Jew stuff out of it, maybe they

778
00:40:17,100 –> 00:40:19,000
were on to some very efficient.
Yeah.

779
00:40:19,000 –> 00:40:22,600
I mean, now we know what happens
when you put boiling water into

780
00:40:22,600 –> 00:40:26,000
a person with Down Syndrome
spring, it’s exactly what you

781
00:40:26,000 –> 00:40:27,400
would have thought.
But now we know for sure.

782
00:40:27,400 –> 00:40:29,600
But at least we know.
Yeah, yeah.

783
00:40:30,600 –> 00:40:35,000
So around this time, they also
directly ask Vincent were wet.

784
00:40:35,300 –> 00:40:38,600
If Frank Olson was considered a
security risk, he refuses to

785
00:40:38,600 –> 00:40:42,000
answer the question so I assumed
he was considered a security

786
00:40:42,000 –> 00:40:44,200
risk.
Yeah like there’s no reason to

787
00:40:44,200 –> 00:40:46,100
not answer that question if the
answer isn’t.

788
00:40:46,100 –> 00:40:50,300
Yes so they go to Seymour Hersh.
That same investigative

789
00:40:50,300 –> 00:40:53,300
journalist who wrote that first
article he makes a bunch of

790
00:40:53,300 –> 00:40:56,600
phone calls and says the
consensus is that the CIA would

791
00:40:56,600 –> 00:41:00,200
not have killed League in 1953.
And that’s the episode guys.

792
00:41:00,200 –> 00:41:01,500
Thank you.
Thank you so much.

793
00:41:01,500 –> 00:41:04,200
Yeah, we’re fun.
It has been real.

794
00:41:04,200 –> 00:41:09,500
Follow us on the social side but
then he also said tells Eric

795
00:41:09,800 –> 00:41:13,700
that he is smart enough to know.
He shouldn’t go digging around

796
00:41:13,700 –> 00:41:17,200
in this story.
That’s like the fucking.

797
00:41:17,800 –> 00:41:20,000
So is the most upsetting part
when there’s these kind of

798
00:41:20,000 –> 00:41:23,300
people in the middle of yeah,
like okay, well I’m talking to

799
00:41:23,300 –> 00:41:24,800
the guy down here who’s looking
into it.

800
00:41:24,808 –> 00:41:27,000
I’m talking to the guys up here
knows what’s going on.

801
00:41:27,000 –> 00:41:30,100
He’s just, Kind of like let’s
just stay in this comfortable

802
00:41:30,100 –> 00:41:31,800
gray area.
I mean, do you what?

803
00:41:31,800 –> 00:41:33,300
Yeah, he’s a paper that says
they did it.

804
00:41:33,300 –> 00:41:35,300
I feel like, you know what
happens, like let’s just uh

805
00:41:35,300 –> 00:41:38,200
let’s just take our 750,000
dollars and shut the fuck up,

806
00:41:38,300 –> 00:41:40,800
you know.
And that’s kind of Seymour

807
00:41:40,800 –> 00:41:46,100
Hirsch has plot line in this
because at the end like he gives

808
00:41:46,100 –> 00:41:49,900
these interviews basically
saying, yeah they murdered his

809
00:41:49,900 –> 00:41:55,900
dad and I have seen evidence of
it but the person who showed me

810
00:41:55,900 –> 00:41:59,600
the evidence like I can’t Let
without giving away that source

811
00:41:59,700 –> 00:42:02,300
which will probably get that
person killed.

812
00:42:02,300 –> 00:42:06,000
Yeah, and it’s this I mean I
know we’re jumping way ahead to

813
00:42:06,008 –> 00:42:08,600
the end but it’s a really
frustrating ending.

814
00:42:08,800 –> 00:42:10,500
Yeah.
Because you want to see that

815
00:42:10,500 –> 00:42:12,100
evidence.
You want to hear from that

816
00:42:12,100 –> 00:42:16,100
person, but he just repeatedly
keep saying.

817
00:42:16,100 –> 00:42:20,200
I can’t write the article
because I can’t verify the

818
00:42:20,200 –> 00:42:23,200
information without putting
people at risk.

819
00:42:23,200 –> 00:42:25,300
Yeah.
But he basically confirms

820
00:42:25,300 –> 00:42:28,600
without confirming that The CIA
executed.

821
00:42:28,600 –> 00:42:30,500
This guy gives you the I’m not
touching you.

822
00:42:30,500 –> 00:42:35,600
Yeah treatment.
So they go see Sidney Gottlieb.

823
00:42:35,600 –> 00:42:39,600
Got leave.
The first thing he says is how

824
00:42:39,800 –> 00:42:43,800
the old him did things.
He’s not proud of but that the

825
00:42:43,800 –> 00:42:47,100
new him can’t really remember
them because he’s disassociated

826
00:42:47,100 –> 00:42:51,400
himself from that Old him.
Oh man, it makes you high school

827
00:42:51,400 –> 00:42:56,700
boyfriend, Sidney Gottlieb is in
to say I’m really sorry about

828
00:42:56,700 –> 00:42:58,400
summer.
But I mean that’s summer that

829
00:42:58,400 –> 00:43:00,200
summer Sydney.
All right, this is bad.

830
00:43:00,200 –> 00:43:03,200
This is schools in session.
Said they have a good boy Target

831
00:43:03,200 –> 00:43:05,000
my GPA up.
Go off to school.

832
00:43:05,700 –> 00:43:10,700
What a creepy thing to set like
just say yes just say yeah we

833
00:43:10,700 –> 00:43:12,600
murdered him.
What are you going to do about

834
00:43:12,600 –> 00:43:14,500
it?
Yeah just kind of just be like

835
00:43:15,200 –> 00:43:18,500
give them a look, you know?
Like and then what is out of the

836
00:43:18,500 –> 00:43:20,900
room and shoot yourself in the
head, like in a movie?

837
00:43:20,900 –> 00:43:22,500
Yeah, that would be great.
Yeah.

838
00:43:22,700 –> 00:43:24,400
That’s that’s how this is
supposed to end.

839
00:43:24,600 –> 00:43:26,200
Yeah.
You found me so that you’re

840
00:43:26,200 –> 00:43:29,300
kidding yourself.
This guy’s kid feels and

841
00:43:29,300 –> 00:43:31,800
countless other kids, exactly.
We didn’t have enough like

842
00:43:32,400 –> 00:43:34,700
enough initiative to get a
documentary made about their

843
00:43:34,700 –> 00:43:37,300
dads who?
Yeah, I used to work in geology

844
00:43:37,300 –> 00:43:40,600
and then I made Rock golems that
were designed to kill Jews and

845
00:43:40,900 –> 00:43:47,400
and I fell out of a window.
So this they do a lot of at this

846
00:43:47,400 –> 00:43:52,100
point.
Dramatic reenactments of the

847
00:43:52,100 –> 00:43:57,500
agents like at one point they
try to take Frank home and He

848
00:43:57,500 –> 00:43:59,400
stepped, they decide he’s still
too sad.

849
00:43:59,400 –> 00:44:02,000
So they stopped at Sydney
gottlieb’s house where, of

850
00:44:02,000 –> 00:44:04,300
course, who could cheer him up
better, you know, and the

851
00:44:04,300 –> 00:44:08,400
implication is that he’s given
more LSD at this point, because

852
00:44:08,400 –> 00:44:11,300
remember, he starts like dancing
around in the living room and he

853
00:44:11,300 –> 00:44:13,300
does a handstand in the living
room.

854
00:44:13,300 –> 00:44:16,600
Yeah.
And it’s like, this is, I mean,

855
00:44:16,900 –> 00:44:19,500
you’ve dosed enough people,
you’ve got to see that this is

856
00:44:19,500 –> 00:44:22,500
not how it works, you know.
Yeah.

857
00:44:22,500 –> 00:44:26,100
Let’s send them back into the
weird psychedelia Matrix so he

858
00:44:26,100 –> 00:44:30,700
can like fixing Himself.
It’s kind of like no yeah I feel

859
00:44:30,700 –> 00:44:35,200
like they were just kind of
trying to make him crazy enough

860
00:44:35,200 –> 00:44:38,500
to just kill himself.
Yeah and I think eventually they

861
00:44:38,500 –> 00:44:41,000
ran out of time and just had to
murder and his Spirit was too

862
00:44:41,000 –> 00:44:43,600
strong and they just like man.
Okay, well yeah.

863
00:44:44,200 –> 00:44:47,700
And so Frank and lashbrooke go
back to New York.

864
00:44:47,700 –> 00:44:52,800
Vincent roulette goes home and
this is where things get really

865
00:44:52,800 –> 00:44:56,200
interesting near the end of
episode 3 because we find out

866
00:44:56,200 –> 00:45:01,800
Frank was Just the US had used
biological weapons in Korea

867
00:45:02,700 –> 00:45:04,300
during the Korean War.
Yeah.

868
00:45:04,400 –> 00:45:07,800
And we see all of these videos
of US, soldiers confessing to

869
00:45:07,800 –> 00:45:11,400
drop in chemical weapons on
people which since then like,

870
00:45:11,400 –> 00:45:14,500
that’s kind of what The
Manchurian Candidate is based

871
00:45:14,500 –> 00:45:16,500
on.
That’s, yeah, the government

872
00:45:16,500 –> 00:45:19,700
coming home from war.
Yeah, and the argument when

873
00:45:19,700 –> 00:45:23,000
these videos actually happened
was the government was saying,

874
00:45:23,000 –> 00:45:26,900
oh, they’re brainwashing, our
boys and making them tell these

875
00:45:26,900 –> 00:45:27,600
lies.
Sighs.

876
00:45:27,600 –> 00:45:29,100
Yeah.
But where are they?

877
00:45:29,300 –> 00:45:31,800
Yeah, I mean where they are.
Did we drop chemical weapons on

878
00:45:31,800 –> 00:45:33,400
Korea?
Easier than killing the bunch

879
00:45:33,400 –> 00:45:35,300
of?
You know, soldiers is just to

880
00:45:35,300 –> 00:45:39,800
make them look crazy like right
all these things and we’re fresh

881
00:45:39,800 –> 00:45:43,800
off of having dropped the first
atomic bomb in the history of

882
00:45:43,800 –> 00:45:46,900
Modern Warfare depending on what
conspiracy theories you believe.

883
00:45:46,900 –> 00:45:50,100
Yeah, and I don’t know, am I
supposed to believe?

884
00:45:50,100 –> 00:45:52,600
We wouldn’t drop chemical
weapons on Korea.

885
00:45:52,600 –> 00:45:53,900
Yeah.
No I’m 50s.

886
00:45:54,000 –> 00:45:56,500
Hmm.
Yeah the 40s sounds like us, you

887
00:45:56,500 –> 00:45:59,100
know?
And externalizing her and the

888
00:45:59,100 –> 00:46:00,100
White House.
Yeah.

889
00:46:00,100 –> 00:46:03,000
And it’s fascinating like
there’s one soldier.

890
00:46:03,000 –> 00:46:06,100
Who one of the videos he says,
we dropped a bomb.

891
00:46:06,300 –> 00:46:09,300
That was a dud.
And what it actually was was

892
00:46:09,300 –> 00:46:12,200
filled with this biological
agent, which we find out our

893
00:46:12,200 –> 00:46:15,300
bugs.
They dropped insects on.

894
00:46:15,300 –> 00:46:18,200
Korea is basically the theory.
Yeah.

895
00:46:18,200 –> 00:46:20,200
And that this spread all of
this.

896
00:46:20,800 –> 00:46:25,100
I don’t remember what disease,
they were spreading, but that’s

897
00:46:25,100 –> 00:46:28,900
basically what we find out, is
that Frank Olson found out about

898
00:46:28,900 –> 00:46:31,200
this and was really upset about
it.

899
00:46:31,200 –> 00:46:34,500
Yeah, maybe an allegedly.
Yeah.

900
00:46:34,700 –> 00:46:38,300
But I mean all kind of tracks
like I wouldn’t put it past us.

901
00:46:38,300 –> 00:46:40,200
I mean, this is exactly the kind
of impetus.

902
00:46:40,200 –> 00:46:43,300
They need for killing this guy.
Oh yeah, for the seems to be

903
00:46:43,300 –> 00:46:49,100
there and a thing Frank Olson
said to his boss at one point is

904
00:46:49,100 –> 00:46:52,100
brought up, can’t I just
disappear?

905
00:46:52,800 –> 00:46:57,100
And at the time like at the
beginning of the day,

906
00:46:57,300 –> 00:47:02,200
Documentary, if you hear that
you think well he’s just

907
00:47:02,200 –> 00:47:05,300
depressed and sad because they
gave him this LSD and it fucked

908
00:47:05,300 –> 00:47:09,300
with his head and then you hear
it in this context and it’s like

909
00:47:09,800 –> 00:47:12,600
do you have to murder me or can
I just disappear?

910
00:47:12,600 –> 00:47:14,400
Yeah.
Can I just can I just work it?

911
00:47:14,400 –> 00:47:18,100
Like a like a like a Better Call
Saul like a Quiznos sandwich

912
00:47:18,100 –> 00:47:21,900
shop somewhere and and I just
thirty thousand dollars a year

913
00:47:21,900 –> 00:47:26,500
and tell my kids to shut up like
so this episode ends with

914
00:47:26,700 –> 00:47:29,100
Sydney.
Lashbrooke getting up and going

915
00:47:29,100 –> 00:47:31,800
to the bathroom around 2:30 in
the morning.

916
00:47:32,200 –> 00:47:35,200
And at that point, it sounds
like someone comes in the room.

917
00:47:35,200 –> 00:47:37,200
He’s sharing a room with Frank
Olson.

918
00:47:37,200 –> 00:47:40,400
Yeah, separate beds.
It’s a couple dudes out, you

919
00:47:40,400 –> 00:47:42,600
know, making a theater trip to
New York City.

920
00:47:43,400 –> 00:47:47,800
Nothing weird about that.
Yeah, so that’s how episode 3

921
00:47:47,800 –> 00:47:52,800
ends and cut 2 episode 4.
There’s more Hamlet references,

922
00:47:52,800 –> 00:47:58,700
which fucking stop it, but they
also do Really quick thing with

923
00:47:58,700 –> 00:48:03,100
the night manager at the hotel
Statler, which is where Frank

924
00:48:03,100 –> 00:48:05,300
Olson died.
Yeah, the night manager, who was

925
00:48:05,300 –> 00:48:08,500
working at the time here, you
just go by the comedian.

926
00:48:10,200 –> 00:48:14,400
He said that lashbrooke told him
quote, I heard glass crack and

927
00:48:14,400 –> 00:48:17,400
he went out the window.
This night manager is convinced

928
00:48:17,400 –> 00:48:21,400
this is a murder yeah which so
am I by this point?

929
00:48:21,400 –> 00:48:28,100
And one of the craziest
coincidences I Think I have ever

930
00:48:28,100 –> 00:48:34,200
heard in my life happens early
on in episode 4, where Eric

931
00:48:34,200 –> 00:48:38,800
Olson is talking to a friend of
his about how he wishes, he

932
00:48:38,800 –> 00:48:43,300
could dig up his dad’s body and
examine it to see if the things

933
00:48:43,300 –> 00:48:46,100
that happen to him.
Like if there’s any evidence

934
00:48:46,100 –> 00:48:49,000
that he’s being lied to.
Yeah, and the friend just

935
00:48:49,000 –> 00:48:52,800
casually says, hey, you know,
Jim stars that we went to school

936
00:48:52,800 –> 00:48:55,400
with.
He exum’s dead bodies as part of

937
00:48:55,400 –> 00:48:57,800
criminal cases when he For a
living.

938
00:48:57,800 –> 00:48:59,800
Now, he’s famous for it.
Yeah, it’s like when you see

939
00:48:59,808 –> 00:49:02,300
those weird Facebook posts,
you’re like, yeah, I need a guy

940
00:49:02,300 –> 00:49:07,200
who specializes in Arizona
vehicular law, and it’s like, oh

941
00:49:07,200 –> 00:49:10,200
yeah, what you really know.
I got a guy said, excellent

942
00:49:10,200 –> 00:49:14,100
history class and so yeah, they
decide to reach out to Jim

943
00:49:14,100 –> 00:49:16,900
Stars.
Eric’s old childhood friend who

944
00:49:16,900 –> 00:49:22,100
digs up dead bodies for criminal
cases and they exhume the body

945
00:49:22,100 –> 00:49:26,400
of Frank Olson and Eric talks
about seeing the body.

946
00:49:26,800 –> 00:49:30,700
And if There’s any part in this?
Where Eric Olson?

947
00:49:30,700 –> 00:49:33,700
Seems a little weird.
It’s in talking about the dead

948
00:49:33,700 –> 00:49:36,600
body, which understandable, I
guess.

949
00:49:36,600 –> 00:49:38,900
Yeah.
But he points out, he says he

950
00:49:38,900 –> 00:49:43,400
touched the skull but since that
Revelation and the silence that

951
00:49:43,400 –> 00:49:45,200
followed, it wasn’t awkward
enough.

952
00:49:45,600 –> 00:49:49,600
He also adds that you could
quote even make out the penis.

953
00:49:53,100 –> 00:49:56,800
Not like not the job out,
nothing like yeah, but, you

954
00:49:56,800 –> 00:49:59,000
know, I mean, did they close
them on the Dick thinking?

955
00:49:59,000 –> 00:50:01,000
Like no kids want to look at
their dead.

956
00:50:01,000 –> 00:50:04,900
Dad’s dick to see, signs of
forced trauma.

957
00:50:04,900 –> 00:50:09,000
But what’s interesting is the
body, the point Eric’s getting

958
00:50:09,000 –> 00:50:13,200
at is the body is shockingly.
Well, preserved, yeah, for

959
00:50:13,200 –> 00:50:16,900
having been buried this long,
like it’s not just a skeleton,

960
00:50:17,000 –> 00:50:20,900
like, there’s still some skin
and things on it, and they’re

961
00:50:20,900 –> 00:50:23,000
able to determine that for one
thing.

962
00:50:23,100 –> 00:50:26,500
Is no signs of the body going
through glass.

963
00:50:26,600 –> 00:50:29,800
Yeah, which is, which if you do
through a window, you’re going

964
00:50:29,800 –> 00:50:34,000
to be tore up, right?
And what that implies is that

965
00:50:34,000 –> 00:50:36,600
someone broke the glass out
first and then jump, which he

966
00:50:36,600 –> 00:50:38,600
could have done also.
Yeah.

967
00:50:38,800 –> 00:50:45,200
But there’s also a hematoma on
his forehead that the medical

968
00:50:45,200 –> 00:50:48,100
examiner claimed was from him
going through the window.

969
00:50:48,600 –> 00:50:51,200
So if you hit the window with
your forehead and go through,

970
00:50:51,200 –> 00:50:53,300
you’re going to have glass.
Ass.

971
00:50:53,500 –> 00:50:55,300
That’s going to come into
contact with the rest of your

972
00:50:55,300 –> 00:50:56,000
body.
Yeah.

973
00:50:56,000 –> 00:50:59,300
So one of those broken with his
forehead and then threw himself

974
00:50:59,300 –> 00:51:00,200
out.
Right.

975
00:51:00,700 –> 00:51:08,000
And so basically star goes on TV
and says, Frank Olson was

976
00:51:08,000 –> 00:51:12,400
murdered.
And this is the part that really

977
00:51:12,400 –> 00:51:15,600
blew my mind and makes me think
we should do this for the

978
00:51:15,600 –> 00:51:17,000
episode.
Eric Olson.

979
00:51:17,000 –> 00:51:20,900
Here is about CIA, assassin
assassination, manuals and just

980
00:51:20,900 –> 00:51:25,100
call someone at the CIA and Like
hair, those are real thing, and

981
00:51:25,400 –> 00:51:28,900
can people see them, and they’re
like, which one do you want?

982
00:51:29,800 –> 00:51:34,000
And they send it here, all of
these assassination manuals, and

983
00:51:34,000 –> 00:51:37,900
in one of them, it says the
preferred method of killing

984
00:51:37,900 –> 00:51:45,500
someone is to drop them out of a
window and that you should when

985
00:51:45,500 –> 00:51:48,100
the authorities arrive, say, you
left the room.

986
00:51:48,400 –> 00:51:51,300
And that when you came back, the
person had gone through the

987
00:51:51,300 –> 00:51:54,500
window, and you have no idea.
You just Play the distraught

988
00:51:54,500 –> 00:51:56,000
friend.
Yeah, it was there.

989
00:51:56,000 –> 00:51:59,300
When someone committed suicide
and you don’t even send a one.

990
00:51:59,300 –> 00:52:02,600
And he’s like, where’s Page, 31
and 32, you know, if you got it

991
00:52:02,600 –> 00:52:03,800
all in there.
Yeah.

992
00:52:03,800 –> 00:52:06,800
He like he specifies, what?
He’s looking for and they just

993
00:52:06,800 –> 00:52:08,000
go.
Oh, you want the first one?

994
00:52:08,100 –> 00:52:10,600
Oh yeah.
So not long.

995
00:52:10,600 –> 00:52:14,700
After the CIA publishes its
first assassination manual about

996
00:52:14,700 –> 00:52:16,400
how a great way to kill a
person.

997
00:52:16,400 –> 00:52:20,200
They also say you should strike
a blow above their right or left

998
00:52:20,200 –> 00:52:24,400
eye to incapacitate them first.
And then drop them out a window.

999
00:52:24,400 –> 00:52:26,600
Yeah, which is exactly what
exact happen here.

1000
00:52:26,700 –> 00:52:29,000
Exactly what fucking happened to
Frank Olson.

1001
00:52:29,000 –> 00:52:32,500
Yeah.
And that, that’s what the rest

1002
00:52:32,500 –> 00:52:37,900
of the documentary becomes is
looking into whether this was

1003
00:52:38,200 –> 00:52:41,400
we’re not even looking into just
discussing the fact that this

1004
00:52:41,400 –> 00:52:43,500
wasn’t like a by-the-book you
know.

1005
00:52:43,600 –> 00:52:48,300
Yeah it wasn’t the CIA drugging
someone and he went crazy and

1006
00:52:48,300 –> 00:52:52,200
killed himself and they did an
oopsie they fucking assassinated

1007
00:52:52,200 –> 00:52:56,100
this guy.
And the implication is that it

1008
00:52:56,100 –> 00:53:00,900
was because what what I think
happened is, he took LSD and

1009
00:53:01,300 –> 00:53:04,800
turned into a fucking piece Nick
and was like, man I can’t do

1010
00:53:04,800 –> 00:53:07,000
this.
You know I got or is wrong like

1011
00:53:07,000 –> 00:53:09,900
these fucking chemical weapons
in Korea are no good.

1012
00:53:09,900 –> 00:53:14,000
I mean these rabbits didn’t do
anything to anybody and at that

1013
00:53:14,000 –> 00:53:16,800
point like deal he knows too
much.

1014
00:53:16,900 –> 00:53:20,600
Yeah, so for me did you good?
You made a bad hiring call?

1015
00:53:20,600 –> 00:53:23,800
Yeah, like and then also, you
shouldn’t hire people in LSD the

1016
00:53:23,800 –> 00:53:30,700
shit out of him lesson learned.
And yeah it it seems like once I

1017
00:53:30,707 –> 00:53:34,200
heard that I was like well the
documentary could be over right

1018
00:53:34,200 –> 00:53:39,000
now because it’s like that SOB
that’s clearly what happened and

1019
00:53:39,000 –> 00:53:44,900
it from there like episode 5
there’s some really crazy shit

1020
00:53:45,200 –> 00:53:48,700
for one thing we find out that
one of the people they took him

1021
00:53:48,700 –> 00:53:53,300
to see in addition to dr.
Abramson in New York was A

1022
00:53:54,000 –> 00:53:58,700
magician named John Mulholland.
Yeah, and they’re their

1023
00:53:58,700 –> 00:54:00,400
reasoning for.
This was when you’re questioning

1024
00:54:00,400 –> 00:54:04,000
reality nothing better than a
card trick and that’s the thing

1025
00:54:04,000 –> 00:54:07,600
they were like, well we their
reasoning for this.

1026
00:54:07,700 –> 00:54:11,200
The official explanation was
well, we thought it would cheer

1027
00:54:11,200 –> 00:54:14,600
him up and then we find out John
Mulholland.

1028
00:54:14,700 –> 00:54:20,100
Also, wrote a sleight-of-hand
manual for the CIA about how to

1029
00:54:20,100 –> 00:54:24,200
spike drinks without anyone
seeing Oh God.

1030
00:54:24,200 –> 00:54:28,600
So I get the sense that Frank
was just watching so hard and

1031
00:54:28,600 –> 00:54:30,600
was like, don’t you put anything
in my drinks?

1032
00:54:30,600 –> 00:54:32,000
Yeah.
Like, let’s take them to

1033
00:54:32,000 –> 00:54:35,400
Mulholland, he’ll get them.
Yeah, I mean, it’s like, it’s so

1034
00:54:35,400 –> 00:54:37,700
funny.
It’s like, if you’re gonna, if

1035
00:54:37,700 –> 00:54:40,800
you’re gonna go on this
entertainment trip to New York

1036
00:54:40,800 –> 00:54:43,000
City, you’re just like, well, is
already on the payroll.

1037
00:54:43,000 –> 00:54:45,500
I mean, this will really cut out
some of the, some of the

1038
00:54:45,600 –> 00:54:47,700
accounting.
You know, work on this whole

1039
00:54:47,700 –> 00:54:49,300
assassination.
Yeah.

1040
00:54:49,500 –> 00:54:51,700
It’s like you can’t even see a
third party magician.

1041
00:54:52,200 –> 00:54:56,300
Yeah.
And And it it’s such a like from

1042
00:54:56,300 –> 00:54:58,500
there.
The rest of the the documentary

1043
00:54:58,500 –> 00:55:03,700
is just them kind of talking
about this being a cover story

1044
00:55:03,700 –> 00:55:07,000
like it I feel like it did get a
little long, the Seymour Hersh

1045
00:55:07,000 –> 00:55:10,400
stuff which we already brought
up happens in episode 6 which

1046
00:55:10,700 –> 00:55:13,400
that’s there’s a whole lot on
that and it is interesting

1047
00:55:13,400 –> 00:55:16,100
hearing him talking about his
source and what he may or may

1048
00:55:16,100 –> 00:55:22,100
have not heard but basically
Seymour Hersh confirms that this

1049
00:55:22,100 –> 00:55:24,500
was a murder.
This was an execution.

1050
00:55:24,500 –> 00:55:28,100
Yeah, and someone carried out by
the CIA hey can’t you know and

1051
00:55:28,100 –> 00:55:33,100
he also spot.
He also hints that it wasn’t

1052
00:55:33,100 –> 00:55:36,700
just a one-off thing.
It was just a program we had in

1053
00:55:36,700 –> 00:55:41,300
place to deal with dissidents at
the time in the United States.

1054
00:55:41,400 –> 00:55:43,700
Yeah.
Which what are the chances

1055
00:55:43,700 –> 00:55:48,400
that’s not happening anymore
like I mean yeah I mean it’s at

1056
00:55:48,400 –> 00:55:50,700
this point I’m sure the program
is evolved.

1057
00:55:50,700 –> 00:55:53,700
I mean because I know for sure
looking at it in In retrospect

1058
00:55:53,700 –> 00:55:57,300
seems a bit sloppy, you know.
Yeah, I wonder what it’s going

1059
00:55:57,300 –> 00:55:58,200
to be.
I wonder what we’re going to

1060
00:55:58,207 –> 00:56:00,200
find out.
It is, you know, in our time

1061
00:56:00,200 –> 00:56:03,900
right now what the kind of
standard operating procedure for

1062
00:56:03,900 –> 00:56:05,600
taking, someone out of the
system is.

1063
00:56:05,700 –> 00:56:06,800
Yeah.
I don’t know.

1064
00:56:06,800 –> 00:56:10,500
Probably like sexual abuse
allegations or something.

1065
00:56:10,500 –> 00:56:13,600
Maybe they’re just like yeah,
enjoy your new free self-driving

1066
00:56:13,600 –> 00:56:18,500
car, courtesy of the CIA.
So yeah, there’s I mean there’s

1067
00:56:18,500 –> 00:56:20,800
a lot more we could go into but
I don’t want to give the whole

1068
00:56:20,800 –> 00:56:24,600
documentary away.
Especially not the interesting

1069
00:56:24,600 –> 00:56:27,300
episodes which are episodes 3
through 6.

1070
00:56:27,300 –> 00:56:30,100
Yeah, I did like it better the
second time I watched it the

1071
00:56:30,107 –> 00:56:34,000
first time like I was in
Wisconsin and I was probably

1072
00:56:34,000 –> 00:56:37,800
smoking a ton of weed and just
sitting on my mom’s couch, like,

1073
00:56:37,800 –> 00:56:39,800
as a good conspiracy buff.
Sure.

1074
00:56:40,500 –> 00:56:43,100
Yeah, yeah, really.
That’s, that’s really recharging

1075
00:56:43,100 –> 00:56:47,400
the batteries and I don’t know.
I just wasn’t as into it but the

1076
00:56:47,400 –> 00:56:50,100
second time around I liked it a
lot more.

1077
00:56:50,300 –> 00:56:52,300
Yeah, I dug it.
It was a it was kind of a little

1078
00:56:52,300 –> 00:56:54,700
up and down.
But I mean, at the end of it,

1079
00:56:54,700 –> 00:56:56,700
it’ll feel pretty worth it.
Yeah.

1080
00:56:56,700 –> 00:56:59,300
So people should watch it.
That’s, that’s wormwood.

1081
00:56:59,400 –> 00:57:03,000
Yeah.
It’s you know, let’s be aware of

1082
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Eric Olsen’s struggle here
because it’s an important one.

1083
00:57:07,000 –> 00:57:09,100
Yeah.
And I think it’s, I think they

1084
00:57:09,100 –> 00:57:13,200
make a pretty convincing case
that this was probably, it

1085
00:57:13,200 –> 00:57:17,400
definitely makes me want to look
into US using chemical weapons

1086
00:57:17,400 –> 00:57:20,300
in Korea.
Oh yeah, morning because because

1087
00:57:20,300 –> 00:57:22,600
yeah, just a weird fucking
dropping a suitcase full of

1088
00:57:22,600 –> 00:57:24,500
bugs.
Because at one point they bring

1089
00:57:24,500 –> 00:57:28,000
up 911 and I’m like shit did we
do 911 to cover the fact that we

1090
00:57:28,000 –> 00:57:31,400
murdered this guy in the 50s?
Yeah, like it just keeps going

1091
00:57:31,400 –> 00:57:33,200
down.
This Rabbit Hole took every

1092
00:57:33,200 –> 00:57:36,000
every day.
Like did wait did you so you cut

1093
00:57:36,000 –> 00:57:38,800
off your dick to so you wouldn’t
find out you got herpes because

1094
00:57:38,800 –> 00:57:41,200
you cheated on her like it’s one
of those things where it’s

1095
00:57:41,200 –> 00:57:43,700
almost yeah at a certain point.
She should be like oops you know

1096
00:57:43,700 –> 00:57:46,700
maybe like why are you and
eventually get better but it’s

1097
00:57:46,700 –> 00:57:49,400
always a girl fuck like wasn’t
they’re coming over in six

1098
00:57:49,400 –> 00:57:52,800
minutes Adam yeah I think it
just like especially with that.

1099
00:57:52,900 –> 00:57:55,200
At assassination manual out
there.

1100
00:57:55,500 –> 00:57:58,900
Like it would be hard to go.
Yeah, but just him.

1101
00:57:58,900 –> 00:58:00,700
We just murdered him.
I just this just this one guy

1102
00:58:00,700 –> 00:58:02,700
that we realized it was a bad
idea.

1103
00:58:02,800 –> 00:58:04,800
Yeah.
But it’s not because we still

1104
00:58:04,800 –> 00:58:06,900
don’t know anything about
chemical weapons in Korea.

1105
00:58:07,000 –> 00:58:08,900
This is home.
This is I’m looking at the CAA

1106
00:58:08,900 –> 00:58:12,100
going forward with this shows
that the CIA is just a bad

1107
00:58:12,100 –> 00:58:15,200
boyfriend.
Yeah, you know, yeah, kind of

1108
00:58:15,200 –> 00:58:18,500
got into this wanting to do the
right thing and then it fuck’s

1109
00:58:18,500 –> 00:58:21,100
up and it just keeps like, you
know, lead me on and making you

1110
00:58:21,100 –> 00:58:24,700
feel crazy for looking into it.
Manipulative boyfriend.

1111
00:58:24,700 –> 00:58:27,000
Yeah, yeah, I think that’s
pretty accurate.

1112
00:58:27,400 –> 00:58:30,100
So that’s wormwood everyone
should go watch it.

1113
00:58:31,000 –> 00:58:34,000
When the fuck does this come out
weeks from now?

1114
00:58:34,000 –> 00:58:37,300
Yeah, we sometime in March, what
do we got the plug?

1115
00:58:37,300 –> 00:58:42,500
This is this is a free episode.
Think we said it was patreon

1116
00:58:42,500 –> 00:58:44,500
when we go now?
Yeah, it’s patreon.

1117
00:58:44,500 –> 00:58:47,300
Only so don’t worry about
subscribe and you already do

1118
00:58:47,300 –> 00:58:49,300
that.
Baby already in the know kids.

1119
00:58:49,300 –> 00:58:51,300
Hey call our voicemail line.
We’re going to start taking

1120
00:58:51,300 –> 00:58:56,100
voicemails on our Our episodes.
Like we used to 50 53 at six

1121
00:58:56,100 –> 00:58:59,200
seven six seven seven or 50 53
on pops.

1122
00:58:59,200 –> 00:59:02,100
For the love of God specify.
What show you’re calling about?

1123
00:59:02,100 –> 00:59:04,400
Men love those.
Voicemails, their fucking wild.

1124
00:59:04,400 –> 00:59:06,500
Always so much fun.
Yeah, I’m great.

1125
00:59:06,500 –> 00:59:09,400
I’m looking forward to getting
back into those and now what do

1126
00:59:09,400 –> 00:59:11,800
you got the plug?
Oh boy, I’m going to be on tour.

1127
00:59:11,800 –> 00:59:13,400
All over the place with the mean
boys.

1128
00:59:13,400 –> 00:59:16,700
Podcast doing stand-up live
podcast for going to Wisconsin,

1129
00:59:16,700 –> 00:59:21,600
Chicago Fort, Wayne Indiana,
Cleveland Pittsburgh Philly, DC

1130
00:59:21,600 –> 00:59:24,000
and New York City.
All throughout the month of

1131
00:59:24,000 –> 00:59:27,000
April tickets to that around me
was podcast.com a couple dates

1132
00:59:27,000 –> 00:59:28,800
for myself.
Personally, I’m going to be in

1133
00:59:28,800 –> 00:59:31,600
Austin, Texas, headlining the
Velveeta room really cool,

1134
00:59:31,600 –> 00:59:33,500
little Comedy Club run by some
great guys.

1135
00:59:33,500 –> 00:59:36,100
That’s happening.
In June the exact dates of which

1136
00:59:36,100 –> 00:59:38,300
escaped me and right here in
Southern California, be

1137
00:59:38,300 –> 00:59:41,300
headlining the Ontario Improv
for my Adam Todd, Brown birthday

1138
00:59:41,300 –> 00:59:43,300
without Adam, Scott Brown
spectacular.

1139
00:59:43,500 –> 00:59:47,100
Most 20th, gamma Twitter, and
grab some free tickets for that.

1140
00:59:47,100 –> 00:59:49,900
That’ll be a lot of fun.
All right, let’s get the fuck

1141
00:59:49,900 –> 00:59:52,000
out of here.
Connor say goodbye.

1142
00:59:52,100 –> 00:59:53,900
Peace, guys.
Goodbye everybody.

1143
00:59:53,900 –> 00:59:54,400
We love you.