Adam welcomes special guest co-hosts Tom Reimann and David Christopher Bell to discuss the strange phenomenon known as the Mandela Effect
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Welcome to conspiracy the show
with your host, added Todd Brown
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and Connor mcspadden.
Hey everybody, Welcome to
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conspiracy the show.
I’m Adam, Todd Brown.
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Welcome to guest host month.
Connor mcspadden is on tour.
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Most of April I’m on tour in
May, so we have to record a
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bunch of episodes ahead of time
with special guests and today.
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Joining me Tom Ryman and David
Christopher Bell from the best
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bad movie ever podcast.
The on pops Network and a whole
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bunch of other things.
Say, hi motherfucker snow.
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It’s just, it’s just that thing
just as Bethany shot everything
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else.
Now, the only, that’s the only
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block of time in which we exist.
We only exist in that hour every
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week.
One hour, every Tuesday.
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How are you both doing?
I am well doing.
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Okay.
I’m excited to have you on
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because you’re both very, very
skeptical people when it comes
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to stuff like this.
Oh yeah, yeah.
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Are there any conspiracy
theories either of you believe?
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Leave it depends on know it
really it really depends on how
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you’re defining conspiracy
theory but in general.
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No, okay, not even that the moon
landing was faked.
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I don’t believe them.
Definitely not.
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That definitely not.
That was.
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We’ve talked about the the
curtain.
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Courtney one.
Yeah and I think just on pops oh
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the curtain Court like Kurt
Cobain was definitely murdered
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that much that much great.
Okay what about MKUltra have you
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ever looked into?
Oh yeah.
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Well, that’s not that’s like
confirmed, that’s the thing.
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That’s what I always point to
when people just kind of across
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the board, shoot down
conspiracy.
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That’s and that’s what I meant
by like.
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It depends on how you’re
defining as a conspiracy theory
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because MKUltra happened.
Yeah, it happened and up until
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the point there were just some
files.
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They got put in the wrong place.
Mmm.
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Otherwise that forever would
have been one family.
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Going know, this thing was huge
and it was happening everywhere
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in the government going now we
tried it out.
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A little bit and it didn’t work.
So we didn’t pursue it much
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because that was like their big
sticking point.
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Before those files came out, is
people were calling it a massive
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program in the CIA was like, it
wasn’t massive, all right?
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It wasn’t that big and then it
was pretty fucking mad.
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Yeah, we were wrong.
It was massive.
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Yeah, it was huge.
So we’re talking about the
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Mandela effect this week, which
this is one.
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I don’t really even.
Yeah, I don’t believe I do most
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angry at this one.
Well, I don’t understand.
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I don’t understand what the
theory is.
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I think the Mandela effect Like
a cool.
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So from a sociological
standpoint when you’re thinking
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about it as, like, memory and
Collective memory and the
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fallibilities memory.
Like, I think it’s a really
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interesting thing to look at and
read about, but I don’t
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understand what the conspiracy
portion of it is about the
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concerns conspiracy behind it.
Is that the Mandela effect is a
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sign that it’s basically a sign
that there are parallel
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universes that were slipping in
and out.
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Oh no, that’s dumb.
Have you ever you want?
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Watch the recent X-Files.
There’s a recent X-Files episode
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about this now and it was a
delightful episode.
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That’s exactly the correct place
to tackle this subject.
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Yeah.
Yeah and it was about alternate
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realities and stuff.
It was a it was a comedic one
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because yeah.
Yeah.
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In the spring is parallel
universes and you know alternate
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realities.
That’s a whole different thing.
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Like when you get into debating,
whether that’s real then you’re
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talking to like physicist
Sister.
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Yeah, it’s like that but that’s
easy.
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That’s a different argument to
me.
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Yeah.
And like that, like the
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Multiverse stuff works like.
Yeah.
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That could be true.
I don’t know.
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I don’t, I don’t know.
I just don’t know that.
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Misremembering a shack movie
from the 90s, right?
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Yeah, barely proof it.
That’s the thing.
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Isn’t it is two different
conversations because I don’t
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not believe in the idea of
alternate universes or right?
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Infinite possibilities all that
crap.
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I don’t think.
Yeah, I don’t think the And L
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affect us that I think it’s just
I don’t think that remembering
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shit.
I don’t think the fact that
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stupid racists on the internet,
can’t tell the difference
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between Sinbad and shag.
It’s a sign that there’s which
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of all the people realities to
tell, right?
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Sinbad has red hair for fuck’s
sake.
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Can you imagine if Shaq had red
hair?
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Oh man, you don’t want to what a
treat?
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Yeah, those are two wildly
different gentlemen.
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Yeah.
This if anyone’s unfamiliar the
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Mandela effect, it’s basically
just a term that Was coined in
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2010 actually to describe the
phenomenon of people just kind
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of misremembering incidents or
fax people culture.
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Yeah, just on a widespread
basis.
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It’s a reference to Nelson
Mandela which is apparently the
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first of these things that
kicked this Theory off.
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And apparently there is a big
segment of the population that
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had it in their minds that
Nelson Mandela died in jail.
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Jail in the 80s, which he
didn’t.
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He was famously, didn’t released
from prison.
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He was very much released.
Yeah, about as released from
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prison, as you can get.
Yeah, he became the president
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after leaving prison, right?
And I think like to have that be
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the one that the thing is named.
After already shows that, it’s
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not an altered reality thing
because if it was two realities
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bleeding into each other.
First of all, wouldn’t we all
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have the same split memory Yeah,
yeah.
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See that’s that’s the thing I
don’t I don’t know what it is.
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That people think would be
triggering.
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Yeah, this more hacking do worth
the internet and how people act
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on the internet these days
because there are people who
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will continuously tell you.
That Obama is a Muslim that’s
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going to destroy the country
even though that didn’t happen,
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right?
And it doesn’t matter what’s not
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me?
Yeah, Dave.
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There’s like, there’s a pattern
of people who will be wrong
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about something find
like-minded.
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People are also wrong.
And then refused to accept that
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they were wrong to report that
they’ve now will be willing.
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Durst alternate?
Like no, you just got the facts
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wrong.
You were misinformed.
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Yeah.
Yeah.
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The Mandela thing.
One thing I did find is in 1982
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he was moved to a different
prison so that probably would
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have put Mandela and jail in
people’s minds and it was a year
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after something called the I
think they were called the
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Sharpsville riots.
Which sounds like it would be
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somewhere in the south southern
part of the United States.
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But that was actually South
Africa.
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It was a town called
Sharpsville.
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I think it was called
Sharpsville.
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And there were riots there where
14 people were killed, and then
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on the eve of the one-year
anniversary of that there was
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another big bombing that
destroyed a bunch of jail cells
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where prisoners like Mandela had
been held at one point.
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And I wonder if that series of
events Vents, which all
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happened?
Kind of in close proximity and
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then him being moved to a
different prison.
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I wonder if that’s what put it
in people’s heads, maybe he died
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in jail in the 80s.
I think you’re doing a lot of
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the work for these people.
I think it I think it really
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comes down to because the
Mandela effect being a weird one
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to name this thing after it is
partially, it’s weird because
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of, you know, him one being
famously released from prison
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and also the whole free South
Africa, movement the apart.
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I’d say that was the that was
the plot of Lethal Weapon 2.
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Like, you know, all of that
stuff during this period of
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history in the 80s.
It’s all directly related to
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Nelson Mandela and his eventual
release and then his him
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becoming president and
everything that it’s like, all
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of that history would be
different.
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We would have different memories
of all of that history.
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So I think it’s people not that
they mixed up this this fact
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about him being moved from
prisons.
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I I think it’s people mixing up.
Oh, the apartheid, the apartheid
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struggle ended because Nelson
Mandela was assassinated.
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Like I think it’s just somebody.
Yeah.
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Being completely misinformed
about what happened during that
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piece of history.
And even my because I mean I was
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a kid when this happens.
So like my memory of this is is
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fuzzy.
Yeah.
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I don’t remember this.
Yeah I mean I remember I’m older
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than you too.
So I remember him getting out of
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prison and that was in the 80s,
right?
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I think it.
Or was it late 80s early 90s
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something like that?
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And I remember him getting out
of prison.
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I remember the whole apartheid
thing.
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And yeah, I’ve never met someone
who has this man, has this one.
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Yeah, and my question, you kind
of brought it up would be well,
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then what happened in South
Africa after that?
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Yeah.
Like do you remember anything or
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did South Africa, just disappear
right when Nelson Mandela died,
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like they’ll me and he’s related
to.
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So he’s a central figure in so
much history that it’s like we
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would have so many different
memories, right?
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Of we would have dual memories
of like vast pieces of history,
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modern history from this time
period.
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Yeah.
So it’s like yeah it’s weird
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that you named this phenomena.
After this example of it that
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Ascent like intrinsically,
disproves the entire idea.
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There’s that there’s two
alternate universe.
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It’s the Mandela effect because
it sounds cool.
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Yeah.
Like it would be a great name
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for a move Berenstein if, I
believe they’re making a movie
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called The Mandela.
Thank God her.
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Be up in finished.
Has this happened several times
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already?
Yeah the one it’s further down
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the list but we it kind of ties
to this one.
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Is the Tiananmen Square Guy
where a lot of people seem to
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have memories of him getting run
over by and I tank I think
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that’s just people who are
misinformed.
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I think that is people having a
memory of seeing the picture of
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him standing there.
And then just assuming the next
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thing that happened is.
Those tanks must have run him.
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All right, right?
Which is you watch the video?
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It’s the videos.
Great ice isn’t moving to
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Constance, stay in front of the
people in the tank.
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Don’t want to run.
Yeah.
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Yeah.
That would be pretty gnarly if
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we did that.
Yeah, China’s a brutal
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government, but they’re not a
publicly brutal government.
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Yeah.
Like they, they’re not going to
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just Massacre a dude, with a
tank in the town square, right?
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And then the team inside the
tank, even then like even if
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they’re like, run that guy over
you, if there’s a couple of
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dudes inside that tank that
might be like this is a bad look
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for us or just like I don’t feel
like Wishing to do because also
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like, yeah, how hard is it just
to kind of wait it out or yeah.
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Yeah.
So I think the Tiananmen Square
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guy and Nelson Mandela are kind
of the same thing where people
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are just it’s just messed
remembering stuff for
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remembering it.
That maybe some of these people
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wanted Mandela to die.
And I say, I think another part
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of it might be an ego thing
because this is all recent
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enough history that people in
our generation.
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Remember the incidents happening
in their lifetime.
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So they feel a certain ownership
or something to it, where
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they’re like, Like, well, you
know, I remember that.
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So, like my, that makes me an
expert and so like, if they
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remembered incorrectly and you
challenged, their remembered
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incorrectly, it will be like the
knee-jerk is, be like, no.
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Because I was, I was, I remember
that.
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I remember this on the news, I
remember seeing this.
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Yeah.
So my memory of this is, is
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correct.
What about the Berenstein Bears
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though?
This is a, this is a weird one
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because I don’t find this that
weird because I looked it up
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briefly, because I remember
Bernstein Bears I remember
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seeing bears, but I do.
I don’t I was Pretty together
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kid when it came to reading.
Well and I remember struggling
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with whether it was stealing or
Stein and I don’t think I would
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have seen the name stain and had
that inner crisis.
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Well, here’s the question I have
for you because this is what I
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found when I looked up.
Did you watch the cartoon I did?
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Apparently, the cartoons
pronounced it Bernstein.
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Yeah, they were Berenstein.
There’s an article about it,
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that someone was just like.
Yep, this is why.
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Yeah, they just looked at the
old cartoons, which I also
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watched They don’t accept that
way but it’s not spelled that
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way.
I don’t think it’s spelled that
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way but I think we had heard it
so much that way.
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Yeah Steven Bears we just you
know there is assumed it was
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spelled that way there was
someone who posted on Reddit
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this image I’ll put it on the
website so people can see it but
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someone found a VHS copy of a
Berenstein Bears cartoon and the
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front label.
It’s spelled Berenstain.
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Bears learn about Strangers.
I bet that’s a creepy episode.
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Yeah, but then on the side it
says Berenstein.
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Yeah.
It’s a Miss bears and yeah, that
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could just be a typo.
Yeah.
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Like they said that, because
it’s pronounced.
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Even when you say even when you
say Berenstein, like you, when
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you say like, you don’t say
Berenstain.
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You say Berenson or like
Berenstain.
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Yeah.
So you can say that and it will
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sound like Berenstein and then
they mean, even if they then it
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is in the like you just said,
they decided to pronounce it
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Berenstein in the cartoon.
So it’s like, yeah.
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We also don’t know who was
Necessarily producing this
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video.
Random House.
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Yeah.
That’s, I mean, that’s a
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misprint.
Yeah, like what?
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That’s not, like, that’s like
saying that, like, like there
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would be a lot more examples,
right?
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That’s like saying that, like
any of the famously misprinted
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Star Wars action figures.
You know, the ones that are were
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the, the action figures that are
worth the.
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Most money are the ones that are
either packaged in the wrong
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package, or there’s a misprint
on the package.
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That’s like saying those are
proof of an alternate universe.
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It’s like, no, those are proof
of a man.
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Factoring fuck up, right?
Like there is one.
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I didn’t put it on the list but
there was C-3PO.
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Silver leg.
Yeah, which I don’t know enough
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about Star Wars to know how that
happened, but I do know it in
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the movie.
He has a silver leg, right?
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I believe so, but I pretty sure
in the merchandise he didn’t and
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in the later films.
Like if we looked up the
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prequels he probably does.
Yeah, he did just the lower leg
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and a lot of the shots.
If you look, it’s hard to tell
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at the /.
Yeah, it looks gold.
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And I think that’s another case.
Well, that’s I think another
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version of this, which is
merchandise or when something
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gets parodied enough, it just
sort of changes like the Luke.
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I am your father line, right.
That was no I am your father I
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get why people remember it
differently because years of
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parodying it and putting it in
commercials and stuff they just
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changed popular natural.
Yeah like yeah like Kirk Captain
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Kirk never says beam me up,
Scotty?
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Yeah.
But We’ll just kept saying it
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and I think it’s the same thing
with C-3PO where after time the
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merchandise and stuff it was
probably they never really.
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Yeah, I never, I don’t remember
a silver leg at all, but I’ve
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also only seen I’ve seen all the
Star Wars movies, but I’ve seen
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them all a time or two, right?
But I did have a ton of the toys
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as a kid and I know C-3PO didn’t
have.
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No, he didn’t.
I don’t remember having a silver
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leg in the movie either.
Apparently he does a shot.
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Have him.
Hmm.
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It’s just the lower leg.
Let’s find it.
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Yeah, you won’t find it.
We have the technology.
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See, like right there.
That’s just off color gold.
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Yeah.
Like look at his hand, to look
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that’s just use of the there,
it’s silver.
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Yeah, I guess I just don’t
remember but they haven’t hasn’t
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Star Wars been like I’m not
really reshot but they’ve
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changed that original edit so
much.
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Yeah, that’s yeah, look up.
The prequels C-3PO in the
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prequels or C-3PO a Two figures.
I just think it’s not insane
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that people didn’t notice that I
get the same picture.
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Yeah.
Yeah.
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So I don’t know.
Look at some he does.
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It’s um, it’s just kind of like
a lighter gold.
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Yeah.
Oh, got a virus from that
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picture, dude?
Yeah, I’m not again.
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Every example, the Mandela
effect there’s either a pretty
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logical explanation or it just
seems like it’s years of
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spoofing and parroting.
Yeah like thing or just seems
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like people were misinformed.
And yeah, like that’s the kind
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of collective memory stuff.
That’s interesting.
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When we all get together and
share like what we remember
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about a certain thing, you get
the base, basically the same
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thing but like slightly
different.
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Yeah, versions of it.
What makes this fascinating?
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Is the justification.
The justification is baffling,
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like this, next one, the death
of Billy Graham.
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Yeah, this is just an event of
like, normally you’d be like,
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Oh, I thought he was dead.
The, you know what’s, right?
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Because you just, it’s an older
person.
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You just assumed that they died
because they’re not really, in
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the news a lot.
But we didn’t used to build this
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bizarre Narrative of alternate
timelines around.
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And it’s just like, Oh, I
thought I was clearly mistaken
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because I thought he was dead.
It’s people unwilling to be
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wrong about a thing.
Yeah, my guess is they’re
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confusing, the death of Billy
Graham which just happened in
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2018.
Finally with Jerry Falwell died.
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In 2007, they looked kind of
similar.
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They’re kind of the same person
of the same person.
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Yeah, I didn’t really know who
Billy Graham was to be honest.
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It’s just You can you get like
him, Pat Robertson Jimmy,
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Swaggart, like this.
Each kind of these guys are all
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basically the same guy.
Yeah.
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And yeah, I think that’s got to
just be people misremembering
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the fact that Jerry Falwell
died.
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Now some people claim the they
learned in school that the
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number of states there were 51.
Again, I think those were people
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just didn’t pay attention.
Those are stupid people.
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Yeah, because I always learned
50 states.
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Plus, Puerto Rico, was Puerto
Rico that they only accept the
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nomination.
It’s like the sun Times y of
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space.
It’s not it’s still not a state.
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It’s like yeah, we probably
probably heard that and just in
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their brain.
Yeah, there’s no that’s now.
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Get out of here.
Yeah, get out of my face.
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Look, that the one that is
really interesting to me and
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also the easiest to shoot down
is the song, We Are The
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Champions by Queen.
Mmm, according to the Manda is
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CI.
This is where the theory falls
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apart for me, because they’re
being disingenuous here.
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In saying that note the song
doesn’t include the line of the
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world.
Where if anyone who’s heard?
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We Are the Champions and it’s
the ending.
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Yeah.
Well, we’ll last line or yeah.
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Well, there’s a few different
points throughout the song,
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where after he says, we are the
champions Freddie Mercury goes
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over.
And everyone remembers that from
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that song.
That’s why this one seems so
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baffling.
But all it is the original album
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version of the song.
On does not include the line of
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the world anywhere in it.
So people are like see, see if
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we all have the right version
they ever played on the radio.
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We all remember it weird but the
version on the greatest hits
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album which Queen’s Greatest
Hits is one of the biggest
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albums of all time or.
Yeah.
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Everybody.
And that’s the version.
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Most people have heard it’s on
there.
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Like they say, the of the world
line is and that’s all they’re
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iconic, live performances of it.
He says it.
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And that’s the only version I’m
gonna go out on a limb and say
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the only version that was ever
the single version, the radio
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version, the only version they
ever played on the radio, has
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that line, right?
And for so many articles to
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bring this up and then leave
that part out, that’s like
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that’s like saying the Mandela
effect exists exists because the
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version of California Love.
We all know.
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It’s not the one that’s on the
album.
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The Tupac album exactly
motherfucker.
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Well, it happens with movie
trailers a lot to where there
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will be a line that’s really
famous in a movie Letter and
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people remember it from the
movie, but then it gets cut from
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the movie.
So it’s just in the trailer.
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Yeah, like the is it the cow or
the it just get tractor wheel in
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the Twister Trail and it comes
up and hits the camera?
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Yeah, it was.
And there’s a bunch of stuff
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from Pineapple Express.
Yeah.
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That didn’t make the movie and I
mean, this happens a lot because
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the trailers are made, while the
film is still in production and
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some stuff gets cut out of the
final version.
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Yeah.
And and that’s one of the things
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that really turns me off about
this theory, is at every step
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they leave out.
Out.
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Well, yeah but it is it’s also
this it’s people being
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objective.
I mean, it’s people being
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intentionally obtuse.
Yeah.
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So if the We Are the Champions
thing was bothering anyone.
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Rest easy?
Yeah.
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You’re correct of the world is
definitely a line in that song.
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It’s probably it’s probably the
only version of the song you
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have ever heard.
That’s that line makes me want
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to go back and listen to the
album version and just hear what
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that song sounds like without
that guy version.
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Be different.
Yeah, I don’t know because on
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the radio we will rock you leads
into the we are We Are the
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Champions and I don’t know if
those are two different tracks
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on the album or not because I
don’t have the original album.
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Yeah.
No one has Queens original
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albums.
You sure need the hits.
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So I could see if like they’re,
if those are two separate songs
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on the album and in the single
version, the radio version,
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Blends them both together, like,
that would make sense.
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Why?
There would be like a different
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recording of it?
Yeah, I don’t know.
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I knew I would need to I’m now
I’m really curious to go, listen
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to this album and see what that
At what this song is.
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Yeah, I should have cued it up
so we could listen to it on the
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show.
But yeah, I don’t know that we
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could, let’s I wonder if we can
find it because I do want to
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hear that because he says it at
the forest.
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Hey man, that’s the greatest
hits.
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So I don’t think this version of
the song exists, it would be
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this one.
What was that?
436
00:22:00,600 –> 00:22:01,900
All that out?
Sure.
437
00:22:02,000 –> 00:22:22,400
Sure.
I’ll take him.
438
00:22:22,500 –> 00:22:24,400
But yeah, I’ll have to go back
and listen to it.
439
00:22:24,400 –> 00:22:27,200
It’s that song seems like it
wouldn’t even work as well,
440
00:22:27,200 –> 00:22:30,700
without that line because you
wear the champions of what
441
00:22:31,300 –> 00:22:34,800
fucking beer pong.
Yeah, darts Cricket.
442
00:22:34,800 –> 00:22:38,400
Well, they make, there’s a space
for it to because so those all
443
00:22:38,400 –> 00:22:44,100
the losers cause we are the
champions I think we got it
444
00:22:44,100 –> 00:22:45,100
guys.
Whoo laughs.
445
00:22:45,100 –> 00:22:49,700
Yeah, yeah, it’s that line
opposes.
446
00:22:49,700 –> 00:22:52,300
The Rhythm have this
foundational lyrically where
447
00:22:52,300 –> 00:22:54,900
they had to like, confront
Freddie Mercury, be like, what
448
00:22:54,900 –> 00:22:57,500
are we?
The Champions, like, the, the
449
00:22:57,500 –> 00:22:59,700
meter of the lyrics that you’re
writing.
450
00:23:00,600 –> 00:23:03,100
There’s, there’s your cut.
There’s a space here.
451
00:23:03,100 –> 00:23:05,100
Like you’re cutting.
Something is like your kids.
452
00:23:05,100 –> 00:23:08,000
It’s your opposing the, but I
put them in the matter.
453
00:23:08,000 –> 00:23:10,800
I could see that conversation
happening in him being like of
454
00:23:10,800 –> 00:23:12,500
the world.
Yeah.
455
00:23:12,900 –> 00:23:16,300
Okay let’s go save the world
dude.
456
00:23:16,600 –> 00:23:24,900
The song about my bicycle Queen
was all right I think Queen was
457
00:23:24,900 –> 00:23:29,100
a pretty good band with an
incredible frontman.
458
00:23:29,400 –> 00:23:31,800
Yeah.
Like he’s the reason why that
459
00:23:31,800 –> 00:23:34,800
band was ever anything.
I just don’t love theatrics in
460
00:23:34,800 –> 00:23:37,800
song you don’t like big
Productions.
461
00:23:37,800 –> 00:23:39,400
That’s fair.
That’s fair.
462
00:23:39,600 –> 00:23:42,700
It’s just seems like a very big
rush fan Broadway.
463
00:23:42,800 –> 00:23:46,200
Thing.
No, definitely not a rush fan.
464
00:23:46,200 –> 00:23:49,800
I’ve tried I just can’t do it.
Have you tried cocaine?
465
00:23:50,300 –> 00:23:52,900
Yes.
And then Rush know that could be
466
00:23:52,900 –> 00:23:54,000
that’s your problem.
Yeah.
467
00:23:54,400 –> 00:23:57,800
Just everyone who enjoys Rush is
also a cocaine.
468
00:23:57,800 –> 00:23:59,600
Yeah.
You gonna do I like that would
469
00:23:59,600 –> 00:24:01,500
come with like a little bag of
cocaine.
470
00:24:01,600 –> 00:24:03,900
I like that image in my head,
I’m into that.
471
00:24:04,100 –> 00:24:05,500
Does that either of you
remember?
472
00:24:05,500 –> 00:24:07,200
The space shuttle Challenger
exploded?
473
00:24:07,300 –> 00:24:11,800
Yeah, I was in sixth grade so
it’s definitely 1986 it was not
474
00:24:11,800 –> 00:24:13,700
1984.
I was in Germany.
475
00:24:14,100 –> 00:24:16,200
Yeah, it was later.
It was mid 80s.
476
00:24:16,300 –> 00:24:18,500
Yeah.
I I don’t know where this one
477
00:24:18,500 –> 00:24:21,200
comes from but some people just
seem to think it happened in 84.
478
00:24:21,600 –> 00:24:25,000
You just got your date’s wrong.
Yeah Reagan was re-elected in 84
479
00:24:25,000 –> 00:24:27,900
that ways to the shit that was
that yours tragedy knows I do
480
00:24:27,900 –> 00:24:29,200
for that means it’s an alternate
timeline.
481
00:24:29,200 –> 00:24:30,700
Now you just remember the dates
wrong.
482
00:24:30,800 –> 00:24:33,700
Yeah.
Give me a fucking break like and
483
00:24:34,700 –> 00:24:37,000
are there people out there
bonding over a two-year
484
00:24:37,000 –> 00:24:38,800
discrepancy?
And when they remember the
485
00:24:38,800 –> 00:24:43,300
challenge, just bloating.
If you can find show at The do
486
00:24:43,300 –> 00:24:46,000
it, the at the bare, minimum, do
the Back to the Future work.
487
00:24:46,000 –> 00:24:49,600
Like, show me a newspaper from
1984 that says, holy shit
488
00:24:49,600 –> 00:24:52,500
Challenger explodes.
Yeah, because that’s a headline.
489
00:24:52,500 –> 00:24:53,800
A lot of people saved.
Yeah.
490
00:24:53,800 –> 00:24:57,800
Like, they’re, there would be,
that is a famous events in
491
00:24:57,800 –> 00:25:00,600
American history and your
version of the timeline, there
492
00:25:00,600 –> 00:25:03,000
should be newspapers that will
tell us that.
493
00:25:03,000 –> 00:25:07,400
Yeah, and that’s the thing.
Like, it can’t just be memories
494
00:25:07,800 –> 00:25:10,100
bleeding over from timeline to
timeline.
495
00:25:10,100 –> 00:25:15,500
That wouldn’t because in line
And the Challenger also explodes
496
00:25:15,500 –> 00:25:17,900
in that timeline.
So there’s going to be just two
497
00:25:17,900 –> 00:25:20,100
years earlier.
Yeah, that makes sense.
498
00:25:21,100 –> 00:25:25,400
Yeah, it doesn’t put a dent in
anything in a historical any
499
00:25:25,400 –> 00:25:30,100
like none of these have even
challenged me like it’s as every
500
00:25:30,100 –> 00:25:32,900
example like this.
Well yeah that’s that’s a thing
501
00:25:32,900 –> 00:25:35,300
that’s why this episode is
called the Mandela effect
502
00:25:35,300 –> 00:25:36,700
explained, right?
Okay.
503
00:25:36,700 –> 00:25:39,000
There’s nothing.
I mean I do, I do like I said at
504
00:25:39,000 –> 00:25:41,900
the beginning, I do like this, I
think it’s neat from a
505
00:25:41,900 –> 00:25:44,600
sociological And point.
Oh yeah, just because it
506
00:25:44,600 –> 00:25:46,500
particularly as we get further
and further into in the
507
00:25:46,500 –> 00:25:48,500
information age, and the
internet and then we can all
508
00:25:48,700 –> 00:25:51,200
everything that has ever existed
is available for anyone’s
509
00:25:51,200 –> 00:25:53,600
consumption at any time.
And then we can all get together
510
00:25:53,600 –> 00:25:56,500
and share our ideas and thoughts
about things.
511
00:25:56,900 –> 00:25:59,800
So the fact that the pool of our
Collective memory, just
512
00:25:59,800 –> 00:26:03,300
continues to grow because we
just can access it at any time.
513
00:26:03,500 –> 00:26:05,700
And then you get these weird
things where you have pockets of
514
00:26:05,700 –> 00:26:08,200
people are like now, man.
We all miss remembered this
515
00:26:08,200 –> 00:26:10,600
thing in the same way.
I think that’s interesting.
516
00:26:10,700 –> 00:26:12,400
Yeah, you have to identify it as
you’re in.
517
00:26:12,800 –> 00:26:15,600
Remembering it incorrectly but
it’s interesting that we’re all
518
00:26:15,600 –> 00:26:17,600
remembering it in the same
incorrect way.
519
00:26:17,600 –> 00:26:23,200
Why is that?
Yeah, it’s like I say the
520
00:26:23,200 –> 00:26:27,400
internet is part of it because
it used to be a time where I
521
00:26:27,400 –> 00:26:32,000
like someone might remember that
the Challenger exploded 1984 and
522
00:26:32,000 –> 00:26:34,600
then everybody around them was
just like no, that’s not true.
523
00:26:34,600 –> 00:26:37,500
But now we can go on a special
box and find all the other
524
00:26:37,500 –> 00:26:40,200
people who Miss remembered it.
No matter what proximity they
525
00:26:40,200 –> 00:26:43,900
are and get together.
Yeah, and Say okay look this is
526
00:26:43,900 –> 00:26:48,600
a thing and it’s like no you’re
just able to find ya more.
527
00:26:48,600 –> 00:26:51,600
You have a bigger sample size of
people of people who got it
528
00:26:51,600 –> 00:26:54,100
right here.
You’re taking very interesting
529
00:26:54,100 –> 00:26:58,100
data and interpreting it in the.
Yeah very wrong way.
530
00:26:58,400 –> 00:27:02,500
Like yeah like I there is if you
go on Reddit there is a
531
00:27:02,600 –> 00:27:07,800
subreddit for like every weird
fucking idea or fetish like
532
00:27:07,800 –> 00:27:12,000
there’s a subreddit devoted to
Taylor Swift’s armpits sure,
533
00:27:12,000 –> 00:27:15,000
sure and enjoy.
That would only exist in the
534
00:27:15,000 –> 00:27:17,500
internet because it’s all these
people from everywhere over the
535
00:27:17,600 –> 00:27:21,900
world who found like 50 people
who were into that.
536
00:27:22,100 –> 00:27:23,600
Yeah.
Are dozens of us.
537
00:27:23,600 –> 00:27:25,900
Yeah and that I feel like that’s
what a lot of these are as
538
00:27:25,900 –> 00:27:29,600
people who are misinformed about
something very specifically that
539
00:27:29,600 –> 00:27:32,700
statistically speaking.
You could find other people like
540
00:27:32,700 –> 00:27:35,400
that which we couldn’t before
the internet, right?
541
00:27:35,400 –> 00:27:40,000
It’s not it’s not a significant
number of people like I don’t
542
00:27:40,000 –> 00:27:44,300
think so but then I think the
media Amplifies them.
543
00:27:44,300 –> 00:27:47,900
Yeah and I think it turns into a
pile on kind of thing where it’s
544
00:27:47,900 –> 00:27:51,000
like, well, I don’t belong to
any other club, but I bet I can
545
00:27:51,500 –> 00:27:53,900
fit in with a group of people
that think the Challenger
546
00:27:53,900 –> 00:27:56,800
exploded two years earlier, I
bet on their mind striding
547
00:27:56,800 –> 00:27:59,800
magician, who just wanders that
will between alternate
548
00:27:59,800 –> 00:28:01,300
timelines.
And it’s not a bad thing
549
00:28:01,300 –> 00:28:04,800
necessarily, I am, I’m part of a
Facebook group of people who
550
00:28:04,800 –> 00:28:08,300
miss the Tomato flavored ramen
noodles, and where there’s very
551
00:28:08,300 –> 00:28:10,000
thing.
You’re not like assisting that
552
00:28:10,000 –> 00:28:11,000
too.
Yeah, you’re right.
553
00:28:15,600 –> 00:28:17,400
You find people like minded
people.
554
00:28:17,800 –> 00:28:21,500
But as much as I’m talking shit,
I’m member of a Facebook group
555
00:28:21,600 –> 00:28:24,100
to bring back Converse slides.
Yeah.
556
00:28:24,400 –> 00:28:26,000
Because they were the best go
on.
557
00:28:26,200 –> 00:28:27,800
I was I would flavored ramen
noodle.
558
00:28:27,800 –> 00:28:30,100
I would instantly join a
Facebook group to bring back the
559
00:28:30,108 –> 00:28:31,700
Indiana Jones Whopper.
Yeah.
560
00:28:32,700 –> 00:28:36,900
What was on that?
It was like fried onion straws,
561
00:28:37,100 –> 00:28:39,800
Chipotle, Southwest mayonnaise.
It was like a double
562
00:28:39,800 –> 00:28:41,600
cheeseburger.
It also had bacon on it.
563
00:28:41,600 –> 00:28:44,300
It was just, it was the best
sandwich I’ve ever had.
564
00:28:44,400 –> 00:28:47,200
Wow.
And it was a promotion only for
565
00:28:47,400 –> 00:28:52,000
Crystal Skull that movie
deserves its own Burger, why?
566
00:28:52,100 –> 00:28:58,000
Yeah, it did Jif peanut butter.
Anyone ever remember?
567
00:28:58,000 –> 00:29:01,100
That is Jiffy.
I think I remember people
568
00:29:01,100 –> 00:29:05,500
calling it Jiffy but it was We
never thought it was GIF.
569
00:29:05,500 –> 00:29:07,600
That was just like a kind of
like a nickname.
570
00:29:07,600 –> 00:29:09,100
You would give it.
Yes.
571
00:29:09,100 –> 00:29:12,600
I’m like the thing that Jeff is
their main competitors Skippy.
572
00:29:12,700 –> 00:29:15,500
Yeah.
So insert is easy to go Jiffy
573
00:29:15,500 –> 00:29:19,400
and it’s like we used to like I
mean in, it should be Jiffy
574
00:29:19,500 –> 00:29:22,600
like, the, the name when you see
it, like I feel like the gut
575
00:29:22,600 –> 00:29:24,300
reaction is.
Why don’t you just call Jiffy?
576
00:29:24,300 –> 00:29:25,600
That sounds like so much more
fun.
577
00:29:25,700 –> 00:29:26,900
Yeah, it sounds like fun.
Yeah.
578
00:29:26,900 –> 00:29:30,100
It sounds like a good thing for
kids but like, you know I also
579
00:29:30,100 –> 00:29:32,900
went where I grew up in the The
South.
580
00:29:32,900 –> 00:29:35,500
We called everything every soda
Coke.
581
00:29:35,700 –> 00:29:38,900
Yeah.
So it’s like, but Lisa it’s like
582
00:29:38,900 –> 00:29:40,800
I’m going to.
Let’s have some Coke but you
583
00:29:40,800 –> 00:29:44,100
could mean grape soda are?
You could mean why would you do?
584
00:29:44,100 –> 00:29:46,200
It was just like the catch-all
term for soda.
585
00:29:46,500 –> 00:29:48,200
That is weird.
Yeah, you wouldn’t say, I want a
586
00:29:48,208 –> 00:29:51,300
soda so it’s good.
I want some coke, you know, it’s
587
00:29:51,300 –> 00:29:54,000
weird.
I want like a Subway once and
588
00:29:54,000 –> 00:29:56,200
there was this basketball
tournament in town.
589
00:29:56,500 –> 00:29:59,700
So it was packed and this guy
from New York.
590
00:29:59,800 –> 00:30:02,100
I could tell he was from New
York from his accent and the way
591
00:30:02,100 –> 00:30:07,600
he Acted comes up to the counter
and goes make me a sub.
592
00:30:08,400 –> 00:30:10,000
And I was like, we are at
Subway.
593
00:30:10,000 –> 00:30:13,800
They are dozens of Subs behind
my head listed on this menu
594
00:30:13,800 –> 00:30:17,800
board, be more specific and he
just goes make me fucking sub.
595
00:30:17,800 –> 00:30:20,800
All right and I know wherever
he’s from.
596
00:30:20,800 –> 00:30:23,100
If you say make me a sub, they
know exactly what the fuck you
597
00:30:23,100 –> 00:30:24,800
mean but here.
No.
598
00:30:24,800 –> 00:30:27,000
Are you sure though?
Cuz he might have been a maniac.
599
00:30:27,100 –> 00:30:29,000
Something he was that’s mine has
just been a crazy person.
600
00:30:29,000 –> 00:30:31,500
Yeah, he was definitely that
soon.
601
00:30:32,600 –> 00:30:37,600
There’s a lot of weird Mandela
effect things around food names.
602
00:30:37,700 –> 00:30:39,700
Jiffy peanut butter.
Well, it’s like, people
603
00:30:39,700 –> 00:30:43,400
convinced Fruit Loops used to be
F ruit Loops.
604
00:30:43,700 –> 00:30:46,100
Which again, I think it’s just,
you’d assume.
605
00:30:46,100 –> 00:30:48,500
It’s called fruit loops.
You’d assume.
606
00:30:48,500 –> 00:30:49,400
It’s spelled.
Yeah.
607
00:30:49,400 –> 00:30:51,000
And it’s possible.
These companies might have
608
00:30:51,000 –> 00:30:53,300
rebranded as possible.
Yeah.
609
00:30:53,400 –> 00:30:55,600
And just change the name up.
Yeah.
610
00:30:55,900 –> 00:30:59,600
I could see fruit turning into f
are oot in the 90s at some
611
00:30:59,600 –> 00:31:01,400
point.
Surprise, there on.
612
00:31:01,400 –> 00:31:02,700
X’s in it.
Yeah.
613
00:31:03,400 –> 00:31:05,700
Who knows?
You did bring up the Luke.
614
00:31:05,700 –> 00:31:08,100
I’m your father thing.
That’s I see.
615
00:31:08,100 –> 00:31:09,500
You have mirror mirror on the
wall.
616
00:31:09,600 –> 00:31:13,600
It’s just, it’s just again.
It’s just people picking up when
617
00:31:13,600 –> 00:31:16,300
things become in pop culture,
like a pop culture thing, and
618
00:31:16,300 –> 00:31:18,700
you get different iterations of
it.
619
00:31:18,700 –> 00:31:21,300
It shows up as being parodied,
like, you said, yeah, there’s
620
00:31:21,300 –> 00:31:23,500
like a sitcom maybe where two
people are fighting.
621
00:31:23,500 –> 00:31:26,100
And someone says Luke, I am your
father like, I assume.
622
00:31:26,700 –> 00:31:28,800
Yeah.
And in that case, that seems not
623
00:31:28,800 –> 00:31:31,100
going to make sense.
If you don’t put Luke’s name in
624
00:31:31,100 –> 00:31:31,600
it.
Yeah.
625
00:31:31,900 –> 00:31:34,100
Because if you’re just Doing it
if you’re just going.
626
00:31:34,500 –> 00:31:36,900
No I am your father people are
going to be like what?
627
00:31:37,100 –> 00:31:43,000
What’s that from yeah that from
Star Wars and yeah and yeah the
628
00:31:43,300 –> 00:31:45,800
thing with the mirror mirror on
the wall, the original
629
00:31:45,800 –> 00:31:49,000
translation of that by The
Brothers.
630
00:31:49,000 –> 00:31:50,900
Grimm, it’s Mirror Mirror.
Yeah.
631
00:31:50,900 –> 00:31:53,300
And how many different times is
that been translated into how
632
00:31:53,300 –> 00:31:56,400
many different language and
that’s likely to be the more
633
00:31:56,800 –> 00:31:58,400
like, as popular as the movie
is.
634
00:31:58,400 –> 00:32:02,300
People probably know this, the
reading or the book version just
635
00:32:02,500 –> 00:32:06,000
As well, at least when Mirror
Mirror started becoming a
636
00:32:06,000 –> 00:32:09,200
saying.
So I think that because it’s the
637
00:32:09,200 –> 00:32:11,800
original translation attracts
that, it would become Mirror
638
00:32:11,800 –> 00:32:13,700
Mirror.
Yeah, and it’s just people
639
00:32:13,700 –> 00:32:17,300
misremembering because, again,
we didn’t used to have home
640
00:32:17,300 –> 00:32:19,800
video or instant access to
everything ever made.
641
00:32:19,800 –> 00:32:23,100
So you’d get somebody who saw
Snow White one time, you know,
642
00:32:23,100 –> 00:32:24,700
right.
With the only the only time you
643
00:32:24,700 –> 00:32:26,200
could see it was when it was in
the theater.
644
00:32:26,200 –> 00:32:28,900
So you wouldn’t be able to.
We used to get to a chance to re
645
00:32:28,900 –> 00:32:31,400
watch movies all the time which
is why some older movies have
646
00:32:31,800 –> 00:32:34,600
odd mistake.
Some things like that or like on
647
00:32:34,600 –> 00:32:37,600
like Twilight Zone or like Star
Trek or any old TV show.
648
00:32:37,600 –> 00:32:41,400
You’ll see a lot of guest actors
repeat, right.
649
00:32:41,400 –> 00:32:44,300
Because it’s like, well, you
can’t reruns aren’t really a
650
00:32:44,308 –> 00:32:47,900
thing yet and like you can’t.
Let just go look up on the
651
00:32:47,900 –> 00:32:49,300
Internet.
So there’s you probably wouldn’t
652
00:32:49,300 –> 00:32:51,300
notice that.
Oh, this same guys been on, you
653
00:32:51,300 –> 00:32:54,100
know, Law and Order. 18, x is
18, different characters, right?
654
00:32:54,100 –> 00:32:56,200
So it’s like, if you can’t go
back and watch the thing, it’s
655
00:32:56,200 –> 00:32:58,900
just your memory of it.
So and then you just remember it
656
00:32:58,900 –> 00:33:02,800
as being Mirror Mirror like
yeah, the one that I think the
657
00:33:02,800 –> 00:33:05,300
hello Clarice thing is
interesting because for one
658
00:33:05,300 –> 00:33:08,100
thing, people are just thinking
of the wrong movie.
659
00:33:08,300 –> 00:33:12,600
He does not say anything of the
sort in Silence of the Lambs.
660
00:33:12,600 –> 00:33:14,900
I assume he doesn’t Hannibal, he
doesn’t Hannibal.
661
00:33:14,900 –> 00:33:17,500
Yeah, but then the then it
becomes did, he say hello
662
00:33:17,500 –> 00:33:20,900
Clarice or did he say good
evening Clarice.
663
00:33:21,600 –> 00:33:26,100
I remember hello, Clarice.
Yeah, for some reason I think
664
00:33:26,100 –> 00:33:29,200
it’s also incredible in
Hannibal.
665
00:33:29,200 –> 00:33:32,200
Yeah, I think he calls it right.
And he’s talking to her and he
666
00:33:32,200 –> 00:33:34,900
said, Hello Clarice, yeah,
that’s what I thought but
667
00:33:34,900 –> 00:33:37,900
apparently no, apparently he
says good evening, Clarice,
668
00:33:37,900 –> 00:33:40,800
which I don’t remember that.
I would argue that, he says
669
00:33:40,800 –> 00:33:43,400
both.
So yeah, it could be here is a
670
00:33:43,400 –> 00:33:47,400
clip from naturally.
The Cable Guy, starring Jim
671
00:33:47,400 –> 00:33:48,100
Carrey.
Mmm.
672
00:33:48,200 –> 00:33:52,800
And he seems to think it’s hello
Clarice.
673
00:33:53,200 –> 00:33:58,100
Oh wait again hold on.
You saw so many parodies of
674
00:33:58,100 –> 00:34:03,300
Silence of the Lambs, right?
So that could just be Be that,
675
00:34:03,300 –> 00:34:08,199
you know.
Yeah, this is a clip from the
676
00:34:08,199 –> 00:34:11,400
Cable Guy.
Check this out.
677
00:34:15,100 –> 00:34:17,699
Jim Carrey’s putting skin on his
face.
678
00:34:17,699 –> 00:34:30,699
Yes.
It’s good to see you again so,
679
00:34:30,699 –> 00:34:32,100
he thinks it’s hello.
Clarice.
680
00:34:32,400 –> 00:34:34,300
Sure.
Now, I know now I need to go
681
00:34:34,300 –> 00:34:37,199
watch Hannibal, which is a
bummer because that’s, it’s not
682
00:34:37,400 –> 00:34:38,699
moving.
There’s a bad.
683
00:34:38,699 –> 00:34:43,100
But now I feel like I have to
watch it to see that scene.
684
00:34:43,600 –> 00:34:45,300
Good evening, Clarice.
It’s good to see.
685
00:34:45,300 –> 00:34:47,800
You doesn’t even sound right?
Don’t say good.
686
00:34:47,800 –> 00:34:49,900
I would say it many times in
that close proximity.
687
00:34:49,900 –> 00:34:54,800
If you get the Hannibal trailer
up, I bet you could see Let’s
688
00:34:54,800 –> 00:34:57,800
see, this is fun.
I know they changed the trailer
689
00:34:58,100 –> 00:35:02,700
sometimes, but I remember, I
worked at a movie theater when
690
00:35:02,700 –> 00:35:05,100
this movie came out.
So I remember seeing the trailer
691
00:35:05,100 –> 00:35:07,300
Bunch.
Well, in the Cable Guy, Jim
692
00:35:07,300 –> 00:35:09,500
Carrey has to be talking about
Silence of the Lambs because
693
00:35:09,500 –> 00:35:11,300
cable guy came out in 96, right?
Yeah.
694
00:35:11,600 –> 00:35:13,400
But again it’s a parody.
It’s a parody.
695
00:35:13,400 –> 00:35:16,300
Yeah.
Just and they paired a parody.
696
00:35:16,700 –> 00:35:18,800
I mean they paired.
It sounds of lands on In Living
697
00:35:18,800 –> 00:35:20,600
Color, which is a show.
Jim Carrey was on.
698
00:35:20,600 –> 00:35:23,100
Yeah.
It’s like there’s I don’t know.
699
00:35:23,200 –> 00:35:26,600
No, I feel like I do.
Remember a hello Clarice line
700
00:35:27,900 –> 00:35:31,200
and apparently, it’s just not in
any of the movies, I did ya.
701
00:35:31,200 –> 00:35:34,800
Again, I’d say, I can’t remember
if it’s me, remembering it from
702
00:35:34,800 –> 00:35:36,700
a from the film or me,
remembering it from all the
703
00:35:36,700 –> 00:35:39,000
parodies of the film.
Because maybe it’s an alternate
704
00:35:39,000 –> 00:35:45,600
timeline Tom We know of I want
an alternate timeline where the
705
00:35:45,600 –> 00:35:49,300
only change is that he says
hello Clarice and Hannibal yet.
706
00:35:49,300 –> 00:35:50,600
Everything else is, everything
else?
707
00:35:50,600 –> 00:35:51,200
I did?
It?
708
00:35:51,200 –> 00:35:54,900
Still fundamentally Alters
things in the future.
709
00:35:54,900 –> 00:36:05,300
I’m just calling this Clarice.
Fucking said it.
710
00:36:06,000 –> 00:36:08,700
I’ve been in a state of
hibernation, but that’s just the
711
00:36:08,700 –> 00:36:10,700
trailer.
Yeah, but I’m pretty sure that’s
712
00:36:10,700 –> 00:36:11,800
in the movie, too.
I need to go.
713
00:36:11,800 –> 00:36:13,900
I remember it from the movie
tend to public life.
714
00:36:14,000 –> 00:36:16,900
I’ve seen this movie in the last
couple of years, FBI?
715
00:36:17,200 –> 00:36:18,700
Yeah.
So this one, they might just be
716
00:36:18,700 –> 00:36:20,600
wrong.
Yeah, I think it’s just people
717
00:36:20,600 –> 00:36:21,400
are wrong.
Most?
718
00:36:21,400 –> 00:36:23,600
Yeah.
All right.
719
00:36:23,600 –> 00:36:24,700
We don’t have to watch the whole
trial.
720
00:36:24,700 –> 00:36:28,300
I appreciate that.
This movie’s, not very good.
721
00:36:28,300 –> 00:36:30,600
No need to be reminded how much
of a disappointment that is
722
00:36:30,600 –> 00:36:32,300
there?
Mandela effect where people can
723
00:36:32,300 –> 00:36:34,700
agree, who played Clarice
Starling, hmm.
724
00:36:34,700 –> 00:36:37,900
Jodie Foster or Julianne Moore
because that would probably
725
00:36:37,900 –> 00:36:40,000
bunny that wouldn’t surprise me.
Yeah.
726
00:36:40,400 –> 00:36:41,700
You know.
Gillian Anderson was going to
727
00:36:41,700 –> 00:36:44,300
get that rule.
Hmm, she was very close to
728
00:36:44,308 –> 00:36:46,400
getting Clarice.
She would have been a good pick
729
00:36:46,400 –> 00:36:47,500
for that.
Yeah, she can.
730
00:36:47,700 –> 00:36:49,900
Apparently, like, something
about contract, she can play
731
00:36:49,900 –> 00:36:51,500
with her FBI agent.
Yep.
732
00:36:51,900 –> 00:36:53,600
Because of the X-Files.
Yep.
733
00:36:53,800 –> 00:36:58,900
What a fucking reason.
So the last one we’ve barely
734
00:36:58,900 –> 00:37:01,700
talked about it but the Sinbad
Jeannie movie.
735
00:37:02,100 –> 00:37:04,700
I think this was just.
This one is crazy.
736
00:37:04,800 –> 00:37:09,700
That’s so many people think they
remember this movie, they don’t.
737
00:37:09,800 –> 00:37:12,600
Yeah.
I think it’s, I think it’s that
738
00:37:12,600 –> 00:37:15,700
Sinbad didn’t he?
Do silly dumb movies.
739
00:37:15,700 –> 00:37:19,800
He was in movies like this.
He was in first kid houseguest.
740
00:37:19,800 –> 00:37:21,100
Yeah.
And I think people are making a
741
00:37:21,107 –> 00:37:25,100
parody in their head.
Unlike a dumb Sinbad movie that
742
00:37:25,100 –> 00:37:27,300
could exist.
When they’re just thinking of
743
00:37:27,300 –> 00:37:29,800
the share thinking of the shack,
where the shack movie Shazam?
744
00:37:29,800 –> 00:37:33,300
Yeah, you’ve decided Was it was
Kazam Kazam movie Shack.
745
00:37:33,300 –> 00:37:36,400
And Shazam is the genie movie
people swear exist?
746
00:37:36,400 –> 00:37:38,300
Yeah, it’s not.
I think again.
747
00:37:38,300 –> 00:37:41,100
It’s yeah.
People confusing the two and
748
00:37:41,100 –> 00:37:42,800
then in their head, they’re
going well, that’s a movie.
749
00:37:42,800 –> 00:37:44,400
He would do.
Yeah.
750
00:37:44,400 –> 00:37:47,200
It’s sometimes about, I don’t
doubt that for one second, sure.
751
00:37:47,200 –> 00:37:51,400
It’s just people deciding that
they were, they can’t be
752
00:37:51,400 –> 00:37:54,100
mistaken about something.
It’s like, no, you just didn’t
753
00:37:54,100 –> 00:37:55,900
remember, right?
Yeah.
754
00:37:55,900 –> 00:37:57,900
And what a hell to die on?
Yeah.
755
00:37:57,900 –> 00:37:59,800
Like no.
This is proof of a parallel
756
00:37:59,800 –> 00:38:03,100
universe.
The Sinbad movie, nope.
757
00:38:03,700 –> 00:38:06,200
Like that.
None of these things with a few
758
00:38:06,200 –> 00:38:08,800
exceptions.
These are such low stakes things
759
00:38:08,800 –> 00:38:11,300
where it’s like, you know,
you’re just miss remembrance
760
00:38:11,300 –> 00:38:14,200
tough people.
It’s not in parallel, universes,
761
00:38:14,200 –> 00:38:16,800
could be a real thing.
That’s not, that’s not crazy.
762
00:38:16,900 –> 00:38:19,300
That’s, that’s a thing science
talks about.
763
00:38:19,400 –> 00:38:21,200
But I don’t think we would find
out this way.
764
00:38:21,500 –> 00:38:24,300
No, this is not the way that
we’re going to discover that.
765
00:38:24,300 –> 00:38:27,900
Yeah, I feel like it’ll be a
calculation written out on a
766
00:38:27,900 –> 00:38:30,200
whiteboard or something and
we’ll go.
767
00:38:30,200 –> 00:38:33,600
Oh, yeah.
Israel, the math proves it, but
768
00:38:33,600 –> 00:38:35,800
other than that or show me the
newspaper.
769
00:38:36,100 –> 00:38:38,200
Yeah, it’s advertising.
Shazam snacks.
770
00:38:38,200 –> 00:38:41,200
And but it’s real.
Now go get me Shazam on Blu-ray.
771
00:38:41,500 –> 00:38:44,200
Please go hop over to that
alternate universe and pick that
772
00:38:44,200 –> 00:38:47,600
up and we’ll play it in our
players that probably aren’t
773
00:38:47,600 –> 00:38:50,500
even coded for that region.
I’m so emphatic about this.
774
00:38:50,500 –> 00:38:54,500
Sinbad one is the reason why is
because I was plugged into
775
00:38:54,500 –> 00:38:58,100
Sinbad’s career in the 90s.
I was a Sinbad fan.
776
00:38:58,400 –> 00:39:01,800
So if he made a movie about a
magic Genie, That’s redundant.
777
00:39:01,900 –> 00:39:04,100
He made a movie about a genie
that shit would not have
778
00:39:04,100 –> 00:39:06,600
escaped.
My focus like yeah, I would
779
00:39:06,600 –> 00:39:08,900
remember that and I would have I
would have gone to see it in the
780
00:39:08,908 –> 00:39:10,000
theater.
Yeah.
781
00:39:10,000 –> 00:39:13,700
Like yeah.
This is definitely on this show
782
00:39:13,700 –> 00:39:17,900
we like this isn’t one of those
podcasts where we’re every
783
00:39:17,900 –> 00:39:20,500
conspiracy is definitely true.
Let’s talk about it.
784
00:39:21,100 –> 00:39:24,400
This is definitely one where I
think know this, this is some
785
00:39:24,400 –> 00:39:26,100
bullshit.
Yeah, that people yeah.
786
00:39:26,300 –> 00:39:28,400
Yeah, making up it would be
interested.
787
00:39:28,400 –> 00:39:31,200
Like I said it would be
interesting to get Like an
788
00:39:31,200 –> 00:39:35,100
actual like sample size and take
a look at people who like,
789
00:39:35,100 –> 00:39:39,200
genuinely not egged on by the
internet or the appeal of being
790
00:39:39,200 –> 00:39:42,500
part of, like, some weird
reality, where alternate
791
00:39:42,500 –> 00:39:44,700
universes are.
Yeah, crossing over with each
792
00:39:44,700 –> 00:39:48,300
other, but like people enough
people, Miss remembering an
793
00:39:48,300 –> 00:39:50,300
event in in the same specific
way.
794
00:39:50,300 –> 00:39:52,700
I think that would be really
interesting to look at, but
795
00:39:52,700 –> 00:39:55,000
that’s not, that’s not what
this, yeah.
796
00:39:59,300 –> 00:40:02,200
Now, I don’t think it is.
Now, had you been here for the
797
00:40:02,200 –> 00:40:04,800
Elvis episode?
That’s a conspiracy.
798
00:40:04,800 –> 00:40:06,800
I believe now that Elvis is not
dead.
799
00:40:07,100 –> 00:40:10,000
Well, I guess now he’s Dad.
I’m sure he’s dead now.
800
00:40:10,000 –> 00:40:12,700
I just don’t think he died when
people think he did.
801
00:40:13,000 –> 00:40:15,700
Hmm Witness Protection Program
is a thing.
802
00:40:15,800 –> 00:40:16,900
I have to go.
Listen to that.
803
00:40:17,100 –> 00:40:21,400
It’s actually pretty interesting
and the the all of the theories
804
00:40:21,400 –> 00:40:24,000
behind it are based on FBI
files.
805
00:40:24,100 –> 00:40:26,400
He definitely worked with them
to bring down a criminal
806
00:40:26,400 –> 00:40:28,900
organization.
It’s interesting stuff, huh?
807
00:40:29,800 –> 00:40:32,300
Or that might have happened.
Just remember at that way right?
808
00:40:32,300 –> 00:40:35,800
Yeah maybe I remember Elvis’s
career with him ending with him
809
00:40:35,800 –> 00:40:38,700
hopping a plane to Argentina.
Having just pulled off the
810
00:40:38,700 –> 00:40:40,500
Justice mission of his dreams,
right?
811
00:40:40,500 –> 00:40:42,100
Yeah Elvis died in a plane
crash, right?
812
00:40:42,200 –> 00:40:43,600
Yeah, I think so.
Yeah, I think so.
813
00:40:43,600 –> 00:40:46,700
Well it’s still still of a drug
overdose just on the way down,
814
00:40:46,700 –> 00:40:47,600
right?
Yeah.
815
00:40:47,700 –> 00:40:50,000
The plane was was was spiraling
towards the Earth.
816
00:40:50,000 –> 00:40:51,500
So we took all the Quaaludes.
He had left.
817
00:40:51,500 –> 00:40:56,800
Yeah in the airplane bathroom
there wasn’t one its tongue and
818
00:40:56,800 –> 00:41:00,600
help us to get on his plane.
People don’t know that.
819
00:41:00,800 –> 00:41:04,100
That so yeah, that’s the Mandela
effect.
820
00:41:04,100 –> 00:41:07,000
I call bullshit on this one.
I think my, I think most people
821
00:41:07,000 –> 00:41:11,600
would yeah, this is a really
tenuous relationship.
822
00:41:11,600 –> 00:41:13,000
But I think I think it’s
interesting.
823
00:41:13,000 –> 00:41:16,300
I’m very different reason.
I think, like I said, they are
824
00:41:16,300 –> 00:41:19,600
going to make a movie about it.
I think it’s a documentary and
825
00:41:19,600 –> 00:41:22,600
the X-Files covered it.
I’m scared that pop culture in
826
00:41:22,600 –> 00:41:24,900
the media will make this a
thing.
827
00:41:25,500 –> 00:41:29,200
Yeah, because it’s not a thing.
It shouldn’t be a thing.
828
00:41:29,300 –> 00:41:33,100
It also.
Seems like an unhealthy thing to
829
00:41:33,100 –> 00:41:35,100
introduced to society.
Yes.
830
00:41:35,200 –> 00:41:38,200
During the height of fake news.
Yeah.
831
00:41:38,200 –> 00:41:40,200
Right.
One more way for people to not
832
00:41:40,200 –> 00:41:41,600
admit that they’re wrong it
right?
833
00:41:41,600 –> 00:41:44,600
It’s one more way for people to
deny objective reality.
834
00:41:44,600 –> 00:41:45,600
Right.
Right.
835
00:41:45,600 –> 00:41:48,200
And that asking Justice any
character?
836
00:41:48,200 –> 00:41:49,700
Yeah it’s like yeah.
Fuck.
837
00:41:49,900 –> 00:41:51,300
Yeah.
Because we’re going to get a
838
00:41:51,308 –> 00:41:52,900
movie.
We’re going to get a Mandela or
839
00:41:52,900 –> 00:41:55,100
somebody’s going to bring up the
Mandela effect to justify
840
00:41:55,100 –> 00:41:57,900
denying the Holocaust.
Oh yeah I could see that.
841
00:41:57,900 –> 00:42:00,200
Yeah.
Yep.
842
00:42:00,300 –> 00:42:01,400
What a catch?
Can of worms that.
843
00:42:01,400 –> 00:42:05,700
Yeah, good times.
So that’s the Mandela effect.
844
00:42:05,800 –> 00:42:10,100
Mmm, we can wrap it up.
I reckon the internet was a bad
845
00:42:10,100 –> 00:42:12,700
idea of them.
I, it’s a very bad.
846
00:42:12,700 –> 00:42:16,700
I am 100% on board with the idea
that we should have had, really
847
00:42:16,700 –> 00:42:20,100
strict government, crackdowns on
the internet, almost right away.
848
00:42:20,200 –> 00:42:21,700
Like, we should be China right
now.
849
00:42:22,800 –> 00:42:24,700
That’s the only way the internet
would still be.
850
00:42:24,700 –> 00:42:27,900
I bet the internet is a blast in
China.
851
00:42:27,900 –> 00:42:30,600
Mmm, because it’s just people
fucking poster.
852
00:42:30,800 –> 00:42:35,800
Our fucking pictures of dogs and
wacky game shows and things like
853
00:42:35,800 –> 00:42:38,100
that.
And no politics.
854
00:42:38,900 –> 00:42:40,700
Loose Change doesn’t get made
over there.
855
00:42:40,800 –> 00:42:44,800
Yeah, it’s exactly.
What do you have to plug before
856
00:42:44,800 –> 00:42:47,100
we get out of here?
Oh, we got our patreon
857
00:42:47,400 –> 00:42:50,200
patreon.com gameplay.
Unemployed, that’s where Dave.
858
00:42:50,200 –> 00:42:53,600
And I we do a streaming Network
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859
00:42:53,600 –> 00:42:57,500
So you can come watch a stream
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860
00:42:57,500 –> 00:43:00,000
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861
00:43:00,000 –> 00:43:02,600
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862
00:43:02,600 –> 00:43:05,800
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863
00:43:05,800 –> 00:43:08,400
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864
00:43:08,500 –> 00:43:14,300
Do all of that movie ever.
Yes, right here Network, you’ll
865
00:43:14,300 –> 00:43:16,100
have to do if you’re already
listening to this you have to do
866
00:43:16,100 –> 00:43:18,200
anything extra.
Yeah, just episode.
867
00:43:18,200 –> 00:43:20,200
Keep listening.
Yeah, I’ll be another another
868
00:43:20,200 –> 00:43:21,600
episode on Tuesday.
Nice.
869
00:43:22,900 –> 00:43:25,300
Connor is on tour right now.
Go go.
870
00:43:25,300 –> 00:43:27,100
See him.
Go to mean, boys.
871
00:43:27,100 –> 00:43:30,600
Podcast.com for tour dates.
I’ll be on tour in may go to
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Let’s get the fuck out here.
Dave say good.
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Bye good.
Bye.
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Tom say goodbye.
Goodbye goodbye everybody.
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We love you.