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Welcome to conspiracy the show

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with your host, Adam Todd Brown
and Connor mcspadden.

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Hey, everybody, Welcome to
conspiracy the show.

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I’m Adam, Todd Brown.
I’m Connor mcspadden.

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We’re gonna blow your goddamn
Minds today.

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This is a good one.
This is a crazy crazy story that

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I had never, despite how much
I’ve looked into Vladimir Putin.

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Yeah.
I never really looked into how

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he came to power in this boy.
Is it terrifying?

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This is like, when you click one
of those things where it’s like

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10 things, you never knew about
the original Star Wars you like,

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I bet I know all these things
and you like what?

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Kenny Baker was a heroin addict
or whatever the fuck it is.

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You just like, wow, I didn’t
like this one’s actually, pretty

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juicy.
And I think you may be surprised

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to learn it.
Yeah, this this what we’re

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talking about today, everything
you hear about Putin murdering

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journalists, all of that shit is
mostly tied to this.

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Yeah, it’s pretty fucking crazy
me and Connor will probably be

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murdered.
This one has like so I would do

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it.
How cool would that be?

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Yeah I still I still fantasize
about going public with what me

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and Vanessa.
Griten heard about Suge Knight

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once.
And you’ve never disclosed it,

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you know, no, no, no, you have
to tell you, you don’t tell me

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that, at the beginning of the
episode, I’m going to be

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tortured this entire car seemed
so distant.

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I was just.
Yeah.

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I was just like, oh, is it?
I thought I already told you.

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Maybe you did.
I’ll tell you again after?

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All right, we will.
Yeah, I will not put.

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I want to make you edit it.
Yeah.

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We don’t even want to say it now
and forget to cut it out,

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whatever his name out.
Yeah I think people know yeah.

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Who knows.
But we’re talking about the

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Russian apartment bombings which
Basically Russia’s 911, I didn’t

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realize, yeah, but it happened
in September.

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It’s just barely avoided
happening on September 11th.

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It’s one of these things where
it’s like you you just just by

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virtue of the vector, they don’t
happen in your country and you

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don’t have your own like kind of
Civic like pride and feeling

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started.
Like, there was there.

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There’s just been a lot of
terrorism that you probably just

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didn’t really know about.
Yeah, yeah.

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It’s it was like not a new idea.
I thought, you know, being a cat

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or like, you know, even teenager
just like yeah.

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That was like, you know, there’s
probably other couple.

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Like little, you know, suicide
backpacks, whatever but 9/11.

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Well that was the invention of
terrorism in my mind you know

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you know it was like oh this
shit has been around forever and

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this was 1999 at a point when we
were still like, hey, Russia’s

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our friend now.
Yeah.

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Nothing to worry about in and
fucking what’s-his-name squash

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the beef.
Yeah.

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Boris Yeltsin, just Shelton.
This is stumbling around the

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world stage like a lovable
drunk.

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Yeah.
Yeah.

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But as it turned Reagan an old
spot head made some progress

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Boris Yeltsin.
Was what I didn’t.

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I didn’t realize how corrupt
Boris Yeltsin was.

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Yes, he was a hit.
There’s all this drama with his

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cabinet and it was just kind of
like a thing.

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Almost like The Teapot Dome
scandal with this dude.

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Just had a bunch of fucking
dummies and Crooks in there.

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Yeah, yeah.
And it that all ties into the

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Russian apartment bombings.
Yes.

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Which if you’ve never heard of
them, it was a series of

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explosions that hit four
different apartment blocks, in

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the Russian city.
Has of Boondocks.

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It’s a lot numbers on the board.
Yeah that is putting up some

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numbers, the bombs hit Booyah
knocks on September 4th Moscow

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on the 9th and 13th in vo,
Gdansk on September 16th was a

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whole bombing week.
It was a campaign.

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Yeah.
And then there was a fifth

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device that was similar to those
used in the first four bombings

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that was found and defused in an
apartment Block, in the city of

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riah’s on On September 22nd.
Yes.

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And that is where the
controversy starts for one

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thing, diffused is a very
important word.

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Yeah, this is a situation where
like, all right, maybe for was

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enough.
Maybe, maybe we could have

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gotten this shit done with one
and a half or two.

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Yeah.
Maybe we pushed it.

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Yeah.
And the bombings did stop after

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that.
Fifth one.

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Yeah, there were no more the
next day.

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Putin went on television and
praised the inhabitants of riyas

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on for their Then went on
national television again, to

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tell the country that the
chechens were responsible for

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the bombings and that bombings
in, chechnya would commence

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shortly.
And they did.

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This was basically the start of
the second Chechen war.

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And this is basically the
incident that got Putin elected

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president.
Yeah.

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He was just kind of like a
lifelong civil servant

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character.
Yeah.

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He was they describe him.
There’s a really good.

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Documentary about this called
blowing up Russia, that you can

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find on YouTube and they
described him at that point in

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history as a faceless Statesman.
Yeah.

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And he had very little chance of
winning the upcoming election

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but he was very closely tied to
the Yeltsin Administration and

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Yeltsin as opposed to letting
the opposition party, take power

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and maybe arrest him or try him
for his crimes, he would much

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rather prefer, Putin, get
elected.

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And that forms basically the
Genesis of the Russian apartment

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bombing Scandal.
Yeah it does.

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It does seem like with Russian
even Putin doing this himself

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where he had a Dmitry Medvedev.
Yeah.

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And for a minute before he came
back, it’s just like in Russia,

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it seems like when you’re when
you’re in power, you’re like all

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right, shit’s getting hot.
I got a slide in a fucking a

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cardboard cutout that I’m gonna
talk behind ya and it tells shit

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cools down and then this time it
seems like the cutout went

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rogue.
Yeah, the cutout went Baird of

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underestimated.
This guy you thought he was the

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just this kind of boring ass,
just buy the book, John Kerry of

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Russia, but he had his his whole
other agenda.

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And yeah, as we’ve seen just a
lot of plants before they made

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him prime minister, which
happened not before he, not long

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before he was elected president.
He actually ran the FSB, which

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stands for, where is it?
Federal Security Service

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obviously?
Yeah, he ran.

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That’s basically the successor
of the KGB.

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It’s the new KGB basically and
he ran that for about a year

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before they made him prime
minister and the FSB very much

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ties into the Russian apartment
bombings.

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So the kind of the the broad
picture of this theory is that

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Putin planned and helped execute
or at least planned and ordered

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the bombings of these Russian
apartment buildings and blamed

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it on chechnya as a pretense
for.

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Going to war with chechnya and
bolstering his status and

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Prestige among voters.
Yeah.

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And thus getting elected to the
presidency, you know?

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And it’s like, almost like this,
like speech, where he Praises

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their vigilance after they
diffuse that five but that’s

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almost like his like 8 Mile
versary.

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Just been working on this shit
for years.

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Yes, big moment.
You know.

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Yeah.
If you watch that documentary

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they show they have clips of him
like walking in to give that’s

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he’s got a really weird walk
where only was yeah, only one

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arm moves.
It’s very he’s like walks like

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Michael And it’s crazy.
Yeah, I don’t know.

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I had noticed her but that
doesn’t make sense.

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But it’s always one of those
things where it’s like, you see

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them and you’re like, oh, like
like almost creeps you out of

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makes you sort of skeptical when
you read about this shit because

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you’re like, is this person just
rising to the moment and, and

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uniting a country after this
happens?

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You know, our orders or was
William?

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Do we Winston Churchill, just
like, all right, blood to heal

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toils and towards you.
I’ll be great.

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And I’m gonna fucking pound my
Podium here, and then it’ll look

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like real, the yeah.
And it’s like, Oh, I thought you

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were just like Someone Rising
the greatness and in light of

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this horrible tragedy but that
you’ve this was all cooked up in

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a lab.
You know, this was like you did

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with like terrorism and the
legislation to military action.

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What music producers did with
Kasia to just alright that’s

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going to be I don’t know it’s
got to be rebeccablack.

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The songs about Friday like
that’s all kind of like

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manufactured and yeah, cooked
up, it’s weird.

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Yeah.
His and it worked like he that

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he was elected, he his
popularity shot up.

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Same thing that happened with
bush, after 9/11 and approval,

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Is were through the roof.
It’s, there’s no.

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He gave the worst fucking speech
ever after 9/11 happened.

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Oh yeah.
Yeah.

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It was good enough.
And that book, I read about in

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the cold of the awful oval
speed.

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Yeah.
Right after it happened.

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And this is funny as the line
from Bush, when they’re

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interviewing, as is leaving
office and be like, what’s it

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like being the least popular
president in history music.

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I was also the most popular
president, but no one ever has

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to be about that, which is a
good line.

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That is a great line.
The official Russian

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investigation into the bombings
was completed in 2002 and

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concluded that all the bombings
were sized and led by Occam as

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Gucci of who remains at large
and was ordered by islamist

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Warlords a bean al-kitab and Abu
Omar I’ll say ‘if who have both

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been killed, of course.
Yep.

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And five, other suspects have
been killed and six have been

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convicted by Russian courts on
terrorism-related charges.

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So in that way, it seems like a
very cut and dry thing if you

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which we talked about this
beforehand.

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If you’re living in Russia, you
probably want to Leave the

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official explanation of this of
course and it’s just like, yeah,

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if you’re going to be Johnson
and you’re just like, yeah, the

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Warren Commission, I don’t know,
just say that this was just one

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guy.
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Look, we can’t fucking deal with
this on top of everything else.

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The but the Rai has an incident
was I didn’t realize how free

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Russia was under Yeltsin.
Yeah, because there were a lot

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of questions around the Rye has
an bombing to the point that one

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of the most fascinating things
in that documentary to me.

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Are all the clips from that.
Like it looks like the set of

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Who Wants To Be A Millionaire.
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Yeah.
But it’s all the residents of

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the Rye has an apartment
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Basically arguing with FSB
agents about the circumstances

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of this bombing.
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On television and it looks wow
this is what a fucking Forward

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Thinking of it.
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To put on your Airwaves Russia
good for you.

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And then they do bring up at one
point in the documentary that

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this was all happening.
When Russia was a much more Free

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place.
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he cracked down on that shit
really hard.

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So what what you see in that
documentary would not happen in

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Russia today but it’s
fascinating.

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They there are a lot of really
good questions about the bombing

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it rises and that was thwarted.
And it the part that so we will

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go through the Rye has an
incident.

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Yeah, basically.
This is the sequence of events

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at around 8:30 p.m. on September
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A resident in a nearby apartment
building notice two suspicious

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men accompanied by an also.
Shady looking woman, carrying

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carrying three large sacks into
the basement of another, another

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building from a car with a
Moscow, license plate.

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interesting, they bring up in

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the That yes, the front license
plate had numbers indicating it

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was from Moscow, but then the
back license plate, had a piece

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of paper taped over it, to make
it seem like it was a car from

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ryazan.
Hmm, which that comes up, in

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that documentary.
He, this guy alerts police, but

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by the time, the police arrived,
the suspects were gone.

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The police go down into the
basement.

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They find three sacks of white
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Each weighing around 100. £110
there’s a Detonator and timer

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attached to the bags in the
timer is set for 5:30 in the

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morning which that part is
especially awful.

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Because, you know, everything
somebody up at 5:30 that

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definitely and just the fact
that they’re setting it for a

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time when most people are going
to be home.

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Yeah.
Oh shit.

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So everyone’s going to be home
and more terrorism in bed

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maximize casualties.
That’s a really Insidious

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detail.
And Yuri, here we go, Yuri

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pochenko that.
I’m sure I don’t pronounce that

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T.
It’s immediately followed by.

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This is why we never hear about
these stories in the west were

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just like, hi, don’t fucking
know.

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Your loony toon ask names, guys.
I’m glad your dad like you that

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everybody just give up.
So Yuri was the head of the

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local bomb squad?
He Defuse The Bomb and tested

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the sax.
He hey they tested positive for

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traces of RDX.
Who you might Remember from The

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Chronic album.
Yeah, and it’s also a military

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explosive used in all the
previous bombings.

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So at that point, all the
bombings are linked.

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Yeah.
And Abu Bakr, I’ll Funkmaster

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Flex had a pledge to drop a bomb
on them and it’s at this point

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that Putin.
Thanks the town for a job.

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Well done, his quote was, if the
sacs which proved to contain

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explosives were noticed, that
means there is a positive side

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to it.
If only the fact that the

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Reacting correctly to the events
taking place in our country

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today.
I’d like to thank the public, no

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Panic, no sympathy for the
bandits so that’s basically

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Putin saying good job, defusing
that bomb.

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Yeah.
If you see something say

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something.
Yeah you know and the fact that

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he recognizes it as a bomb that
was diffused is very important.

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Yeah.
Later that evening which fucking

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welcome to Russia with this
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A Telephone Service employee.
Ian riah’s on just tapped into a

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long-distance phone call kind of
at will and overheard three

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out-of-towners talking about how
they needed to split up and make

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their own way out of town.
And with this bombing, just

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being thwarted.
Obviously, that’s cause for

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concern.
Yeah, he was like oh I should

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report this, of course.
So he notifies authorities and

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the number is traced to a
telephone exchange unit serving

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the FSB offices.
So That’s that’s weird.

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And they the authorities in
riyas, on eventually track these

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three people down and when they
arrest them, they all produce

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FSB identification cards.
So basically the people who

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planted these bombs were FSB
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Yeah.
And Moscow eventually steps in

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and says, no you have to let
them go.

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Yeah, and that’s basically the
end.

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We the the last we hear of those
three And on September 24th, FSB

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director Nikolai.
Patrushev announced that the

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exercise was carried out to test
responses after the earlier

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blasts and that becomes
basically the official

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explanation for what happened in
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I’m just trying to make sure you
guys are paying attention.

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We yeah, we can’t stop all this
terrorism alone.

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We’re running drills.
It’s just a drill in the thing

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is covert operations happen
without the knowledge of the

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public.
Yeah drills don’t know like

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drills.
Russia is very open about when

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they run drills.
We sometimes worry about them

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turning into actual Wars.
Like, that’s a very common thing

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and Russia as Lawless as it is
at least at this time, you

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couldn’t do that.
You couldn’t have a drill

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involving the actual public
without notifying the public.

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And these are alive live
explosives with real timers and

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everything.
You know that was at first what

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was reported and then the
government when they Changed

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their when they came out.
And when this basket League

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they’re like, oh no, they were
just they were fake.

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Yeah, it was something else so
you have one day, Putin saying

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good job thwarting this bombing
and the next day someone coming

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out and going no no it was a
training exercise.

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Putin would have known if that
was a training exercise the day

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before.
Yeah, there’s no mystery in

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that.
Like, if anyone’s going to know,

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Putin’s going to know, of course
an Interventional dress, you’re

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going to keep them that’s going
to be in his Daily Briefing.

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You know it’s like if you’re
doing Is the goofy ass idea to

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make sure that people are paying
attention.

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Like, you know, yeah.
And what great timing to launch

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a an exercise about planning
bomb somewhere when the

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country’s actively being bombed?
It’s like that would not fuckin

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happen.
No.

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And but people just kind of went
along with it.

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It like we said, if you watch
this documentary, there’s this

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whole fucking televised public
forum where everyone who lived

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in the Rye has on building
questions, these FSB agents, and

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they’re just like Nope.
It’s an exercise likes at some

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points.
They change their story on that

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show Jesus and people are still
just like okay yeah, whatever,

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yeah.
And so after they changed the

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explanation to a training
exercise, they also change their

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explanation of what type of
explosive was found because at

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first everyone acknowledged the
RDX thing but then they changed

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their position and said it was a
combination of aluminum powder,

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salt peter Mostly sugar and TNT
and David satter who is a

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journalist and one of the few
people who have been reporting

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on this since it happened.
Who is still alive?

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Mmm, he wrote a must be a bad
report.

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Yeah, exactly.
He wrote a really great article

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for the National Review which
will talk about again later but

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his theory is that they changed
the explanation of what the

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explosives were because they
were going to have to explain.

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Lane how that much RDX left.
The facility where it’s made.

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Because fun fact about RDX.
It’s made in one Factory in

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Russia. 1 FS.
Be controlled Factory.

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Yeah.
In Russia.

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And it go down to the corner
store and pick up a set, you

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know.
Yeah.

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And they had to come up.
If this was a training exercise

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like they would have to explain.
Well, do you have a record of

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removing all of this RBX from
The facility.

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Hmm.
So instead they just say no,

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it’s sugar.
Yeah, and if you Google pictures

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of this bomb, that was found or
watch that documentary.

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That is not sugar.
It looks like fucking uranium oh

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yellow.
For one thing, which is not

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normally a characteristic of
sugar.

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And the explosives expert, who
Defuse The Bomb he in, I was

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skeptical.
When I first heard traces of our

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RDX.
Because like, I wouldn’t expect

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traces to be enough to build a
bomb.

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Yeah, but the way you test,
these things is use a gas

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analyzer, that just kind of
measures what’s emanating from

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that bomb.
And tells you what chemicals are

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in it.
Yeah.

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And people were like, well your
your analyzer could have

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malfunctioned and he was like
this is a 20 thousand dollar

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piece of equipment that we have.
Our DX has only made in one

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Factory.
Yeah pretty.

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Do you know unique chemical?
Yeah, nature.

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And he was like, we have a guy
whose only job is to keep this

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fucking unit working.
Every time we use it, he

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recalibrates it.
It did not malfunction.

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Yeah, and he eventually changed
his story but that’s a big

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characteristic of this thing.
Everyone eventually changes

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their story.
Yeah.

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Or they get murdered like you do
you want to be right or have to

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play with your grandkids?
You know.

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You kind of Wonder the tune
Russia and that incident

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Basically.
Well, let’s talk about Alexei

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pinata of pinata of first.
He in March 2000, Russian

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newspaper, novaya Gazeta
reported the account of private

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Alexi, pinata of the 137th
regiment, who guarded a military

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facility near the city of riah’s
on and he reported that he was

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surprised to see that a quote
Storehouse with weapons and

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ammunition contains sacks with
the word sugar on them.

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And this is the point where this
turns into just good old Russian

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comedy.
Yeah, because there’s a lot of

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things about this.
That it’s almost funny how bad

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they fucked up in covering.
Oh, totally.

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Stop, would you just put like
just like big backstory

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materials, you know, and hold on
the Sackler and so the I say,

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this is the point where it gets
funny because he and another A

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paratrooper seeing a bunch of
bags of sugar decide to cut one

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open and make tea.
Yeah, and use the sugar.

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Why not to sweeten their teeth?
They won’t miss it and then they

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later realize they were drinking
hexa jin’ or RDX which is

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hilarious.
The chemical that was used to

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make all of these bombs figure.
That is why I thought that was

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the traditional Russian
sweeteners just civil unrest

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Jamaican aftershave.
Yeah.

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They have you ever read about
that people in Russia drinking

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After Shave?
Because it’s is that like, a Ice

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documentary.
Like you won’t believe how

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Russian Street youths are.
Getting high these day, it

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probably is now but only because
I wrote a cracked article about

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it like eight years ago.
Okay.

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And they had to catch up in the
end.

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I didn’t know that big
aftershave.

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They drink aftershave and it’s
bottled in a way to make it look

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like something you would drink.
So is it one of these things?

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Like poppers are supposedly VCR
cleaners but they’re actually

439
00:23:55,800 –> 00:23:57,500
for loosening your butthole.
Yeah.

440
00:23:57,500 –> 00:24:00,800
Okay and what this is legit
after shaving it will kill you

441
00:24:00,900 –> 00:24:04,400
but people fucking drink it
because it’s cheaper than vodka

442
00:24:04,700 –> 00:24:07,900
which I Don’t think anything was
cheaper than vodka in Russia.

443
00:24:07,900 –> 00:24:10,000
Yeah, that’s I thought that
should just came out of the tap.

444
00:24:10,000 –> 00:24:16,800
I thought there’s a third knob.
So after he tells this story to

445
00:24:17,200 –> 00:24:23,600
novaya, Gazeta, FSB officers,
basically show up at the 137th

446
00:24:23,600 –> 00:24:27,700
regiment and interrogate pinata
of at which point, he’s

447
00:24:27,700 –> 00:24:32,000
allegedly told you guys can’t
even imagine what serious

448
00:24:32,000 –> 00:24:35,000
business, you’ve got yourselves
Tangled Up In.

449
00:24:35,400 –> 00:24:38,100
Meanwhile this guy’s got hexa
Gene shits, you know, he’s

450
00:24:38,100 –> 00:24:44,100
trying to metabolize explosives
and where it gets really creepy

451
00:24:44,100 –> 00:24:48,200
is novaya.
Gazeta was later sued for

452
00:24:48,200 –> 00:24:52,000
insulting the honor of the
Russian army since according to

453
00:24:52,000 –> 00:24:54,100
them.
There was no private Alexei

454
00:24:54,100 –> 00:24:57,900
pinata have in their regiment
just Photoshop Photoshop some

455
00:24:57,900 –> 00:25:00,900
out of that stall and picture
and he go, he like he gives a

456
00:25:00,908 –> 00:25:04,000
press conference after this.
We actually love the journalist

457
00:25:04,000 –> 00:25:07,700
is like What about the sugar?
You know, like what sugar and

458
00:25:07,700 –> 00:25:09,200
he’s like the sugar, those right
there.

459
00:25:09,200 –> 00:25:11,400
And then they’re like, what
journalists, you know, and

460
00:25:11,400 –> 00:25:13,600
people start asking, they’re
like, what are you even talking

461
00:25:13,600 –> 00:25:17,300
about, isn’t it?
Yeah, it’s crazy how bad they

462
00:25:17,300 –> 00:25:20,600
were covering this up and how
they just got away with it.

463
00:25:20,600 –> 00:25:25,800
But what happened here like
would Americans believe Trump

464
00:25:25,800 –> 00:25:29,500
planned a series of apartment
bombings to get reelected.

465
00:25:29,700 –> 00:25:32,300
This point No One Believes
anything anymore and it’s like

466
00:25:32,500 –> 00:25:34,400
it’s one of those things where
it’s like, is it bad that we

467
00:25:34,400 –> 00:25:36,900
can’t agree on anything?
Kind of like Universal

468
00:25:36,900 –> 00:25:38,600
narrative, it doesn’t seem like
there’s anything that’s

469
00:25:38,600 –> 00:25:41,700
universally true anymore or is
it good that at least people are

470
00:25:42,100 –> 00:25:45,600
skeptical and taking some sort
of investigative, you know, like

471
00:25:46,000 –> 00:25:49,500
motivation to do something or
learn more or get more excited?

472
00:25:49,500 –> 00:25:51,200
It’s just like, I don’t know,
man.

473
00:25:51,200 –> 00:25:53,700
I may be that some people would
some people wouldn’t.

474
00:25:53,700 –> 00:25:55,500
I don’t think.
And then we’re not on the same

475
00:25:55,500 –> 00:25:58,300
page about fucking why the sky
is blue anymore.

476
00:25:58,300 –> 00:26:00,000
We all read that.
It was scattered light and

477
00:26:00,000 –> 00:26:01,600
fourth grade.
But that’s just gay.

478
00:26:01,600 –> 00:26:05,100
Global as yogurt up there being
with being fucking chemtrails.

479
00:26:05,300 –> 00:26:07,800
Into our into our skies and is
like who knows?

480
00:26:07,800 –> 00:26:10,300
He definitely they got this shit
right under the wire of like the

481
00:26:10,300 –> 00:26:11,500
internet if you’re going to pull
this.

482
00:26:11,500 –> 00:26:12,800
Oh yeah.
For sure, you know?

483
00:26:12,800 –> 00:26:14,700
Yeah, they did it at the perfect
time.

484
00:26:14,700 –> 00:26:17,600
We got to do this before texting
becomes widely adopted.

485
00:26:17,700 –> 00:26:19,700
If anyone wants to really look
into this.

486
00:26:19,700 –> 00:26:23,700
There’s an article on National
review.com called the unsolved

487
00:26:23,700 –> 00:26:27,900
mystery behind the act of Terror
that brought Putin to power and

488
00:26:27,900 –> 00:26:29,700
you can it’s free on their
website.

489
00:26:29,700 –> 00:26:33,600
It’s written by a journalist
named David satter who is

490
00:26:33,700 –> 00:26:36,600
legitimately the Journalist
standing.

491
00:26:36,800 –> 00:26:40,100
Who still reporting on this?
This article came out in 2016.

492
00:26:40,500 –> 00:26:43,200
He’s been covering this since
1999.

493
00:26:43,200 –> 00:26:47,400
Well happened by the time he at
one point, testified in front of

494
00:26:47,408 –> 00:26:50,800
the house intelligence Committee
in 2007.

495
00:26:51,000 –> 00:26:53,800
He says, in the beginning of his
article, by that point, he was

496
00:26:53,800 –> 00:26:57,600
the only person alive still
talking about the, which is a,

497
00:26:57,700 –> 00:26:59,300
pretty split.
That’s unlike real, like

498
00:26:59,300 –> 00:27:02,400
Egyptian curse of the artifact
in the pyramid type.

499
00:27:02,400 –> 00:27:05,700
Yeah.
And if you read theirs, so many

500
00:27:05,700 –> 00:27:09,900
more details in his article, he
talks about the police sketch,

501
00:27:09,900 –> 00:27:12,900
which is one of the craziest
parts of this story.

502
00:27:12,900 –> 00:27:16,100
Basically, they went to the
landlord of this riyas and

503
00:27:16,100 –> 00:27:20,800
building and asked who was
renting that space down there

504
00:27:21,200 –> 00:27:26,400
and the guy gave them a
composite sketch but then he

505
00:27:26,400 –> 00:27:29,900
gave it to the police and then
the police just replaced it with

506
00:27:29,900 –> 00:27:32,400
a different sketch of some
other.

507
00:27:32,400 –> 00:27:35,200
Dude, who eventually is the guy
we mentioned in the beginning.

508
00:27:35,300 –> 00:27:38,400
Inning, who is still at large?
They’ve never caught him.

509
00:27:39,100 –> 00:27:43,000
He was Chechen, and they were
like, yeah, this guy did it, and

510
00:27:43,000 –> 00:27:45,500
they just produce this
completely different sketch,

511
00:27:45,600 –> 00:27:48,000
like whatever the stereotypes of
Chechen features are like, yeah,

512
00:27:48,000 –> 00:27:50,800
nice chats catch, but he needs
to have the Destroyer like, you

513
00:27:50,800 –> 00:27:52,600
know, you like a robin.
Holy Ghost beer.

514
00:27:52,600 –> 00:27:54,500
Yeah, exactly.
It’s got a head and he’s got AA,

515
00:27:54,500 –> 00:27:57,000
the our heart chechnya t-shirt,
you kind of missed it.

516
00:27:57,000 –> 00:28:01,700
I understand in the moment and
this David satter at one point

517
00:28:01,800 –> 00:28:05,100
starts looking into whether that
first sketch.

518
00:28:05,200 –> 00:28:11,900
Was ever like duplicated Lisa
because there is that lag time

519
00:28:11,900 –> 00:28:14,400
where the government was still
saying, it was a terrorist

520
00:28:14,400 –> 00:28:17,400
attack that was thwarted.
So he’s like maybe that first

521
00:28:17,400 –> 00:28:21,900
police sketch did, get out and
he finds it and it looks exactly

522
00:28:21,900 –> 00:28:26,600
like the one of the FSB agents
who was eventually arrested.

523
00:28:26,600 –> 00:28:30,400
Yeah.
And so that, like, that alone

524
00:28:30,400 –> 00:28:35,100
just replacing a police sketch.
That’s, that’s such blatant.

525
00:28:35,500 –> 00:28:37,900
Cover up shit.
Oh totally, but I think you’re

526
00:28:37,900 –> 00:28:39,300
right.
It was the internet.

527
00:28:39,300 –> 00:28:41,800
So word wasn’t going to get
around that fast.

528
00:28:41,800 –> 00:28:45,200
Yeah, and you really had to go
like go down to the priests a to

529
00:28:45,200 –> 00:28:47,100
be like can I see that sketch
and they’re like, what’s your

530
00:28:47,100 –> 00:28:49,000
name again?
Pretty weird.

531
00:28:49,600 –> 00:28:55,700
Yeah, exactly.
So yeah, it’s he calls the

532
00:28:55,700 –> 00:28:59,800
Russian apartment bombings, the
greatest political provocation

533
00:28:59,800 –> 00:29:02,000
since the burning of the
reichstag.

534
00:29:02,300 –> 00:29:06,900
Remember that one we do a Ex
back when we first started

535
00:29:06,900 –> 00:29:09,900
talking about false flag
operation, seems like we’ve been

536
00:29:09,900 –> 00:29:13,500
talking about them forever.
When’s it going to?

537
00:29:13,500 –> 00:29:17,800
I hope this summer never ends at
and it ends next week with part

538
00:29:17,800 –> 00:29:20,100
2 of our episode about Sandy
Hook.

539
00:29:20,200 –> 00:29:23,100
Yes.
Another probably not a false

540
00:29:23,100 –> 00:29:25,700
flag operation.
Yeah, II.

541
00:29:25,700 –> 00:29:29,200
When I went to Ireland, I had a
tour guide named Robbie and this

542
00:29:29,200 –> 00:29:32,300
dude was just like he’s like he
had this very cute like, oh,

543
00:29:32,308 –> 00:29:34,800
it’s you tortured hij.
He’s just like, oh yeah, I know

544
00:29:34,800 –> 00:29:37,300
you want to AMA goes on there
with his crocodile tears to try

545
00:29:37,300 –> 00:29:40,800
to take your guns away after he
shot, those kids and Relic.

546
00:29:41,100 –> 00:29:44,300
Whoa, dude just tell me about
the Ring of Kerry, bro, I want

547
00:29:44,300 –> 00:29:46,700
to show me where the waterfalls
are and shit.

548
00:29:46,700 –> 00:29:49,800
Jesus, what case I want that
version of The Conspiracy where

549
00:29:49,800 –> 00:29:53,200
Obama shows up personally to
shoot the kid dressed as the

550
00:29:53,200 –> 00:29:55,500
Joker and just so I could lets
loose.

551
00:29:55,500 –> 00:29:58,600
Yeah, exactly.
That’s what that means of Obama

552
00:29:58,600 –> 00:30:01,000
as the Joker is from.
He actually showed up at Sandy

553
00:30:01,000 –> 00:30:02,600
Hook and did that.
Yeah, if you’re gonna kill ya,

554
00:30:02,600 –> 00:30:06,800
you know, go all out.
So he Said also rightfully

555
00:30:06,800 –> 00:30:11,200
points out that for different
people, investigating FSB

556
00:30:11,200 –> 00:30:14,500
involvement in the Russian
apartment bombings were killed

557
00:30:14,500 –> 00:30:20,400
between 2003 and 2006.
Yeah, and remember that in the

558
00:30:20,400 –> 00:30:23,700
run-up to the election when
Trump was, there was an

559
00:30:23,700 –> 00:30:26,500
interview and he was saying all
these nice things about Putin

560
00:30:27,000 –> 00:30:29,800
and I don’t remember who it was
probably someone awful like Matt

561
00:30:29,800 –> 00:30:30,500
Lauer.
Yeah.

562
00:30:30,500 –> 00:30:33,700
But it was simpler times and it
was just like, you know, he’s a

563
00:30:33,708 –> 00:30:35,100
better leader than our present.
I like yeah.

564
00:30:35,300 –> 00:30:36,500
Whole interview with all those
polling.

565
00:30:36,500 –> 00:30:39,600
And and the interviewer was
like, you know, he kills

566
00:30:39,600 –> 00:30:42,200
journalists to and Trump was
just like, yeah, we probably

567
00:30:42,200 –> 00:30:44,100
kill people sometimes too.
Yeah.

568
00:30:44,400 –> 00:30:46,500
You remember that?
Oh, that’s very Grim.

569
00:30:46,600 –> 00:30:48,400
That is yeah.
Well that was before.

570
00:30:48,400 –> 00:30:49,500
Yeah.
Well you think he’ll never get

571
00:30:49,500 –> 00:30:51,900
elected.
Yeah everywhere he’s just like

572
00:30:51,900 –> 00:30:52,800
yeah.
What the fuck?

573
00:30:52,800 –> 00:30:54,600
Do you think what?
You think we’re so good or it’s,

574
00:30:54,600 –> 00:30:57,300
we’re so what I said and it’s
just like this is a great Dave

575
00:30:57,300 –> 00:30:59,200
Chappelle dead bit.
We’re just like, he’s talking

576
00:30:59,200 –> 00:31:00,700
about.
All scary is briefings are, he’s

577
00:31:00,700 –> 00:31:03,500
like you’re not supposed to tell
is that, you know, that’s like

578
00:31:03,600 –> 00:31:05,200
that your kid is.
I’d be like I’m three months.

579
00:31:05,400 –> 00:31:09,200
Out of the red and I am worried.
You know, same thing with just

580
00:31:09,200 –> 00:31:10,300
like, what the fuck is this
dude?

581
00:31:10,300 –> 00:31:12,000
Like peeling?
But you you’re not even

582
00:31:12,000 –> 00:31:14,600
pretending anymore.
There’s not even the facade of

583
00:31:14,600 –> 00:31:16,900
like our own like Civic
greatness is just like, all

584
00:31:16,900 –> 00:31:18,500
right, we’re probably just as
bad.

585
00:31:18,600 –> 00:31:20,200
Yeah.
And how depressing is that?

586
00:31:20,200 –> 00:31:22,700
That we didn’t even need a
Russian apartment bombing to

587
00:31:22,700 –> 00:31:26,200
bring Trump to power.
We just voted for, no, no.

588
00:31:26,200 –> 00:31:28,800
Just one.
One lady in a pantsuit doing her

589
00:31:28,800 –> 00:31:30,600
best and we’re just like, not
for us.

590
00:31:30,600 –> 00:31:35,100
Thank you, she’s boring.
Oh my God, doomed.

591
00:31:35,200 –> 00:31:38,900
It’s great.
So, let’s talk about the people

592
00:31:38,900 –> 00:31:41,500
who were killed trying to
investigate this.

593
00:31:41,800 –> 00:31:45,700
Yes, let’s one was Sir guy.
You shouldn’t cough.

594
00:31:45,700 –> 00:31:50,100
He was a liberal Russian
politician and vice chairman of

595
00:31:50,100 –> 00:31:53,400
the Sergey kovalev commission,
which was formed to investigate

596
00:31:53,400 –> 00:31:56,100
the bombings.
So this is like if the CIA

597
00:31:56,100 –> 00:31:59,300
murdered the Warren Commission.
Yeah, exactly sickly.

598
00:31:59,300 –> 00:32:02,400
Yeah, if this is ever with every
Democrat on the house

599
00:32:02,400 –> 00:32:06,500
intelligence Committee, just
woke up Up and got hex of gin

600
00:32:06,500 –> 00:32:10,800
poisoning.
He was murdered on April 17,

601
00:32:10,800 –> 00:32:15,600
2003, just hours after
registering his political party

602
00:32:15,800 –> 00:32:19,800
to participate in the December
2003 parliamentary elections.

603
00:32:20,000 –> 00:32:23,100
Convenient, probably I’m
assuming was going to run at

604
00:32:23,100 –> 00:32:26,400
least on a platform of hey your
president committed, an act of

605
00:32:26,400 –> 00:32:27,900
Terror to get elected.
Yeah.

606
00:32:27,900 –> 00:32:30,000
Might have come up.
Yeah, I mean these I mean I know

607
00:32:30,000 –> 00:32:32,900
Russian political, you know,
campaigns are pretty civil, but

608
00:32:32,900 –> 00:32:35,100
I mean, you might have made a
note of it.

609
00:32:35,600 –> 00:32:38,800
We did an episode, it’s already
out, it’s been out for a few

610
00:32:38,800 –> 00:32:41,400
weeks about the upcoming Russian
elections.

611
00:32:41,800 –> 00:32:45,800
And what’s crazy?
About those is in reading that

612
00:32:46,000 –> 00:32:49,200
you go into it thinking, oh
yeah, I’m going to read about

613
00:32:49,200 –> 00:32:52,100
crazy-ass Putin and a bunch of
other really moderate people.

614
00:32:52,100 –> 00:32:54,000
That should probably have the
job over him.

615
00:32:54,500 –> 00:32:56,500
Nope.
It’s just Putin and a lot of

616
00:32:56,500 –> 00:32:58,300
other Putin’s below him.
Yeah.

617
00:32:58,300 –> 00:33:01,600
Like you’re not mean enough to
the United States like he’s the

618
00:33:01,600 –> 00:33:04,000
moderate in that country.
Oh my God.

619
00:33:04,100 –> 00:33:07,300
That’s fucking metal.
Things just Yates like, we

620
00:33:07,300 –> 00:33:09,400
called the episode.
Would you vote for Putin?

621
00:33:09,400 –> 00:33:12,300
Because by the end I was like, I
think I’m voting for poop.

622
00:33:12,300 –> 00:33:15,500
Yeah, that’s so funny.
He’s our best option right now.

623
00:33:16,000 –> 00:33:18,500
Oh yeah, the United States
because everyone else their

624
00:33:18,500 –> 00:33:23,300
stance like even there’s a guy
who was running against him, who

625
00:33:23,300 –> 00:33:27,200
basically, they put him in jail
and band his party from

626
00:33:27,200 –> 00:33:31,600
participating, and he’s like,
painted as Putin’s main rival

627
00:33:31,800 –> 00:33:34,100
and as an American here, that
and go, okay?

628
00:33:34,100 –> 00:33:35,500
So that’s the liberal guy.
Bye.

629
00:33:35,500 –> 00:33:36,600
No.
No.

630
00:33:36,700 –> 00:33:40,900
He’s much.
He thinks Putin is too nice to

631
00:33:40,900 –> 00:33:43,600
the West.
Yeah, the Putin is like a

632
00:33:43,600 –> 00:33:46,100
fascist in a tie and he’s just
like how I know.

633
00:33:46,100 –> 00:33:47,800
It’s full army uniform, what the
hell?

634
00:33:47,800 –> 00:33:49,100
What are we, what are we dressed
in this shit?

635
00:33:49,100 –> 00:33:51,800
I want 55 Metals across my
chest.

636
00:33:51,800 –> 00:33:53,000
I mean, nothing.
What are you guys?

637
00:33:53,000 –> 00:33:54,600
That’s what’s up with this post,
these cheddar.

638
00:33:54,600 –> 00:33:56,200
This is not the Russia.
I grew up with.

639
00:33:56,300 –> 00:33:59,300
Yeah it’s fucking terrifying.
Speaking of terrifying, let’s

640
00:33:59,300 –> 00:34:03,400
talk about Yuri.
Don’t even come on should

641
00:34:03,400 –> 00:34:08,699
whatever the sauce from Rick and
Morty was Shaco chick him Yuri,

642
00:34:08,699 –> 00:34:16,000
shikoku torture him Russian guy,
the fuck balls flag better,

643
00:34:16,199 –> 00:34:20,300
sorry he was a journalist for
novaya Gazeta who was

644
00:34:20,300 –> 00:34:22,900
investigating the bombings,
which it should be pointed out.

645
00:34:22,900 –> 00:34:26,300
That’s the only like that’s it
in Russia.

646
00:34:26,300 –> 00:34:29,500
It’s a that like publication.
Yeah, that aren’t like

647
00:34:29,500 –> 00:34:31,800
state-sponsored or
state-controlled.

648
00:34:31,900 –> 00:34:35,500
Yeah, which I don’t know if
people realize how close as we

649
00:34:35,500 –> 00:34:38,000
are to that.
Oh, just because he is almost a

650
00:34:38,007 –> 00:34:40,699
few companies.
Yeah, the in the merger and it’s

651
00:34:40,699 –> 00:34:42,600
like, the whole thing is just
like, we’re going to make this

652
00:34:42,600 –> 00:34:45,600
cool underground news source
like Vice or something.

653
00:34:45,600 –> 00:34:48,100
And it’s like that’s just to get
a big enough so we could sell it

654
00:34:48,100 –> 00:34:50,900
to Rupert Murdoch.
Yeah and I can go fuck people on

655
00:34:50,900 –> 00:34:53,600
a yacht you know then just like
yeah I don’t give a shit like

656
00:34:53,800 –> 00:34:56,300
yeah half the time when I see
people complaining about

657
00:34:56,300 –> 00:34:59,400
Independent Media going down
it’s like they’re not

658
00:34:59,400 –> 00:35:02,300
independent.
Like you’re talking about people

659
00:35:02,300 –> 00:35:05,000
that sold out to bigger Cuts
like saying like oh man, all

660
00:35:05,000 –> 00:35:06,800
over.
Harley local record stores are

661
00:35:06,800 –> 00:35:09,700
like, no, Hot Topic had to close
down in your Mall because there

662
00:35:09,700 –> 00:35:13,200
wasn’t enough Goths in North
Dakota, it’s just, it’s the same

663
00:35:13,200 –> 00:35:14,400
shit.
Yeah, well yeah.

664
00:35:14,400 –> 00:35:16,600
It’s like you think about creep?
It is like state-run magazines

665
00:35:16,600 –> 00:35:20,500
like imagine reading the United
States government presents

666
00:35:20,500 –> 00:35:22,300
Reader’s Digest or something
even.

667
00:35:22,300 –> 00:35:24,500
It’s like, they’re like
Highlights magazine or whatever.

668
00:35:25,000 –> 00:35:27,400
Just it’s fucking odd, to think
about that shit.

669
00:35:27,400 –> 00:35:29,400
And it’s, it feels like where
we’re headed though.

670
00:35:29,500 –> 00:35:33,000
Yeah, especially with libel laws
like that.

671
00:35:33,000 –> 00:35:36,000
The thing about novaya Gazeta
They mentioned in that

672
00:35:36,000 –> 00:35:38,900
documentary.
This one of the editors is

673
00:35:38,900 –> 00:35:42,100
showing all of these articles
that they’ve written, and he was

674
00:35:42,100 –> 00:35:46,600
like to us everything, we’ve
published is grounds for

675
00:35:47,200 –> 00:35:50,000
criminal charges against the
Putin Administration.

676
00:35:50,000 –> 00:35:53,400
No, and he goes, but instead
we’re being sued for libel.

677
00:35:54,100 –> 00:35:58,100
And how often does Trump talked
about that?

678
00:35:58,200 –> 00:36:00,800
Oh, all the time all the time.
So this whole thing.

679
00:36:01,300 –> 00:36:03,000
Yeah.
So try to Prime is for the for

680
00:36:03,000 –> 00:36:05,000
some kind of move in that in
that direction.

681
00:36:05,600 –> 00:36:09,600
Like in that once that happens
where well it’s you in a bad

682
00:36:09,600 –> 00:36:11,200
way, look even little shit like
this.

683
00:36:11,200 –> 00:36:14,800
Like I’m sure you know, patreon
will find a new parent company

684
00:36:14,800 –> 00:36:18,100
and it sold out from under him
and then some shareholder will

685
00:36:18,100 –> 00:36:21,300
did incorporate with, you know
Lionsgate.

686
00:36:21,300 –> 00:36:23,400
And then they’ll be like Almost
Doesn’t sympatico.

687
00:36:23,400 –> 00:36:27,100
We don’t need your, you know,
the fucking 1,200 patrons a

688
00:36:27,107 –> 00:36:29,700
month and that badly.
So you’re fucking your out like,

689
00:36:29,700 –> 00:36:33,400
yeah, it’s fucking terrifying.
I do have a contingency plan for

690
00:36:33,400 –> 00:36:34,500
when that happens.
Oh yeah.

691
00:36:34,500 –> 00:36:37,000
Hey Tree on.
Oh there is a WordPress plugin

692
00:36:37,000 –> 00:36:39,000
that I could set all this shit
up on.

693
00:36:39,100 –> 00:36:41,600
Oh yeah, use my cell.
It’s like it’s very smart.

694
00:36:41,600 –> 00:36:44,800
The plug-in is $120.
There’s a hosting service that’s

695
00:36:44,800 –> 00:36:49,100
$15 a month but let you host as
much content as you want and as

696
00:36:49,100 –> 00:36:53,200
many different shows as you want
whoo-hoo and yeah I would if I

697
00:36:53,200 –> 00:36:56,000
have thought about that if
something serious happens or

698
00:36:56,000 –> 00:36:59,300
like if fucking Josh Denny, says
something super racist on a

699
00:36:59,308 –> 00:37:03,000
podcast and patreons.
Like hey man, we can’t let

700
00:37:03,000 –> 00:37:05,200
people keep giving you money.
Yeah, making us look bad.

701
00:37:05,300 –> 00:37:07,600
Bad.
I have a I have a plan.

702
00:37:07,600 –> 00:37:10,300
There is there’s a tree on which
doesn’t have the same integrated

703
00:37:10,300 –> 00:37:13,100
like create your own RSS feeds
for your podcast type of

704
00:37:13,100 –> 00:37:15,300
functionality.
The patron has but it’s

705
00:37:15,300 –> 00:37:16,900
supposedly hate speech
protected.

706
00:37:16,900 –> 00:37:18,800
So it’s been a big thing in the
mean boys.

707
00:37:18,800 –> 00:37:21,500
Can is to try to be beating
Richard Spencer and we are, I

708
00:37:21,500 –> 00:37:23,200
think by a couple hundred
dollars still are.

709
00:37:23,200 –> 00:37:26,100
He’s in like the high 900 and
were like 11:00 right now.

710
00:37:26,100 –> 00:37:29,000
So nice, keep fighting the good
fight but yeah, it is, it is, it

711
00:37:29,000 –> 00:37:31,500
is just like fucked up.
We’re just like, I like, okay,

712
00:37:31,500 –> 00:37:33,100
that’s kind of funny.
I thought I’d just like a pun

713
00:37:33,100 –> 00:37:35,000
and I was like, oh, this is just
for straight-up Nazis.

714
00:37:35,400 –> 00:37:37,600
Yeah, exactly.
So yeah, I wouldn’t go the hey

715
00:37:37,600 –> 00:37:39,800
Tree on Route.
I’m just set up the subscription

716
00:37:39,800 –> 00:37:42,500
thing on my own, totally, which
I might still do at some point,

717
00:37:42,500 –> 00:37:45,200
even if patreon is a little
firewall and you’re like a code

718
00:37:45,200 –> 00:37:47,300
head, you know, you know, like
you know this shit.

719
00:37:47,500 –> 00:37:50,400
All you do is research the best
vert like things on the internet

720
00:37:50,400 –> 00:37:53,100
so usually Adam knows you’re
basically like Cipher from The

721
00:37:53,100 –> 00:37:55,600
Matrix.
Yeah, I have plans know.

722
00:37:55,600 –> 00:37:57,900
I know, I’ve plans for surviving
the trumpet.

723
00:37:57,900 –> 00:37:59,900
I really never die.
I’m always just like, oh, Adam

724
00:37:59,900 –> 00:38:02,600
for sure has an earthquake kit
and the shotgun under his bed

725
00:38:02,600 –> 00:38:05,200
with a bunch of like fucking
mylar blankets.

726
00:38:05,400 –> 00:38:06,800
And you know, dog food for
winter.

727
00:38:06,800 –> 00:38:08,900
That’s been vacuumed.
Compressed down to the size of

728
00:38:08,908 –> 00:38:12,100
the, of a single grape, you
know, and he just drops dead

729
00:38:12,100 –> 00:38:13,900
water.
We have been talking about

730
00:38:13,900 –> 00:38:16,800
getting like, I feel like we
need that now, like we’ve

731
00:38:16,800 –> 00:38:18,600
reached that point in American
history.

732
00:38:18,600 –> 00:38:20,300
Little, yeah, you’re not crazy
anymore.

733
00:38:20,300 –> 00:38:23,100
If you have a stockpile of
bottled water in your closet, I

734
00:38:23,100 –> 00:38:25,200
had I was in the one AM radio
show, and I was like, I need to

735
00:38:25,200 –> 00:38:29,600
get a shotgun and a bunch of,
like, Rich crackers, and ending

736
00:38:29,600 –> 00:38:33,500
like a, in a fucking big Ziploc
bag that I can munch on and it’s

737
00:38:33,500 –> 00:38:36,400
crazy.
Yes, Like I fucking hate guys.

738
00:38:36,400 –> 00:38:39,300
I don’t ever want to own a gun?
Yeah, just like oh well, the

739
00:38:39,300 –> 00:38:41,800
Raiders are going to come to my
house and try to take my ship

740
00:38:41,800 –> 00:38:45,000
after the earthquake and then
they’re probably the actual

741
00:38:45,000 –> 00:38:46,600
Raiders.
Yeah, probably actual.

742
00:38:46,600 –> 00:38:48,200
The Oakland Roar if nothing
else.

743
00:38:48,200 –> 00:38:50,700
Raiders fan, Raiders fans.
Yeah, I have a bit about this

744
00:38:50,700 –> 00:38:52,500
but it’s just like, yeah, I’m
sure some of the Trump

745
00:38:52,500 –> 00:38:54,200
Administration is going like Oh
California.

746
00:38:54,200 –> 00:38:55,400
I mean the the elections in a
week.

747
00:38:55,400 –> 00:38:57,400
Let’s go.
Let’s go get them old man that

748
00:38:57,400 –> 00:39:00,200
we’ve kept alive underneath the
Pentagon for months.

749
00:39:00,200 –> 00:39:02,500
We’ll go.
We’ll go Pam and sunlight to go

750
00:39:02,500 –> 00:39:05,200
drill under the Andreas fault
and deal.

751
00:39:05,300 –> 00:39:07,500
Locate everyone right before the
election goes down.

752
00:39:07,500 –> 00:39:10,600
So we win those votes because
only Fresno’s able to fucking

753
00:39:10,600 –> 00:39:13,500
get out to The Ballot Box.
It’ll happen.

754
00:39:13,500 –> 00:39:16,100
It’ll happen.
Yeah, so let’s talk about Yuri

755
00:39:16,100 –> 00:39:20,800
shikoku Kickin, that guy?
Yeah, he died.

756
00:39:20,800 –> 00:39:25,400
Suddenly in July 2003, from a
mystery illness, probably

757
00:39:25,400 –> 00:39:29,500
nothing on the eve of a trip to
the u.s. to meet with the FBI.

758
00:39:29,500 –> 00:39:32,300
Just a social visit, just
checking things out.

759
00:39:32,900 –> 00:39:35,500
He was actually, I didn’t
include anything in the It’s

760
00:39:35,500 –> 00:39:39,200
about this but there was also a
scandal.

761
00:39:39,900 –> 00:39:43,500
It’s got whale in the name, I
can’t think of what it is but

762
00:39:43,500 –> 00:39:46,000
it’s basically a
money-laundering scandal and he

763
00:39:46,000 –> 00:39:51,000
was investigating that also and
was going to New York to meet

764
00:39:51,000 –> 00:39:56,600
with the FBI to present evidence
of Russian money laundering in

765
00:39:56,600 –> 00:39:59,400
the United States.
And probably, also to mention

766
00:39:59,400 –> 00:40:00,900
what happened with Putin.
Yeah.

767
00:40:00,900 –> 00:40:05,200
And then they’re just like,
yeah, and he dies of a mystery.

768
00:40:05,300 –> 00:40:08,500
Illness his medical documents.
I’m sure.

769
00:40:08,500 –> 00:40:12,200
This is completely normal have
been classified by the state, of

770
00:40:12,200 –> 00:40:13,800
course?
Yeah, that’s what you do.

771
00:40:13,800 –> 00:40:18,100
When a journalist who has no
relation to expose you dies, is

772
00:40:18,100 –> 00:40:21,200
you use your Authority who
classify his well, it’s a

773
00:40:21,207 –> 00:40:22,600
mysterious illness.
You don’t want to.

774
00:40:22,600 –> 00:40:25,500
You want to cause a panic but I
realize what if everyone thinks

775
00:40:25,500 –> 00:40:28,300
they’re going to die the head
Russian super AIDS or whatever

776
00:40:29,200 –> 00:40:34,100
his symptoms did fit a pattern
of poisoning by radioactive

777
00:40:34,100 –> 00:40:36,900
materials?
Alexander.

778
00:40:37,100 –> 00:40:39,900
I knew I shouldn’t have taken
that pain from that guy in the

779
00:40:39,900 –> 00:40:43,400
suit, you know, I just was
glowing at the tip that I

780
00:40:43,408 –> 00:40:45,300
thought it was just to help you
see in the dark.

781
00:40:45,300 –> 00:40:51,500
But Alexander litvinenko claimed
publicly that the killing was a

782
00:40:51,500 –> 00:40:54,000
politically, motivated
assassination.

783
00:40:54,600 –> 00:40:58,600
Hey, speaking of that guy, let’s
talk about what happened to

784
00:40:58,607 –> 00:41:03,100
Alexander litvinenko.
This is maybe or litvinenko.

785
00:41:03,500 –> 00:41:08,400
This might be the scariest one.
This guy is a former FSB agent

786
00:41:08,500 –> 00:41:13,700
who defected to England, he was
given asylum in England because

787
00:41:13,700 –> 00:41:18,300
he had accused his superiors in
the FSB of assassinating.

788
00:41:18,800 –> 00:41:22,800
Russian Tycoon and oligarch
Boris berezovsky.

789
00:41:23,200 –> 00:41:26,500
I don’t know what Boris did but
the FSB wanted him dead.

790
00:41:26,600 –> 00:41:28,400
Yeah.
And this guy was trying and they

791
00:41:28,400 –> 00:41:32,700
got first boy, yeah, litvinenko
was that hero that came out and

792
00:41:32,700 –> 00:41:35,200
said hey the FSB is going rogue
again.

793
00:41:35,400 –> 00:41:37,500
Then let’s put a halt to it.
Yeah.

794
00:41:37,600 –> 00:41:41,000
And he was arrested for that,
but they later released him at

795
00:41:41,000 –> 00:41:44,200
which point he fled to England,
where he was granted Asylum.

796
00:41:44,500 –> 00:41:49,100
So, in England, he continues to
speak out against Putin and he

797
00:41:49,100 –> 00:41:53,300
really does a deep dive into
these Russian apartment bombings

798
00:41:53,700 –> 00:41:58,100
and he actually wrote the book
blowing up Russia, which is what

799
00:41:58,100 –> 00:42:00,600
that documentary we recommended
is based on.

800
00:42:00,900 –> 00:42:04,700
I guess we could have just
recommended the book but I don’t

801
00:42:04,700 –> 00:42:06,500
have that much.
Faith and our listeners to want

802
00:42:06,500 –> 00:42:08,500
to read.
Yeah, that’s a whole project.

803
00:42:08,500 –> 00:42:11,600
Yeah, and that documentaries
only 42 minutes baby Breeze,

804
00:42:11,600 –> 00:42:15,100
through that thing, blow through
that, just a fucking EpiPen of

805
00:42:15,100 –> 00:42:19,100
Truth.
And so he wrote the book blowing

806
00:42:19,100 –> 00:42:22,000
up Russia, that this documentary
about the Russian apartment

807
00:42:22,000 –> 00:42:25,900
bombings is based on, he died in
November 2006.

808
00:42:26,300 –> 00:42:31,900
After former FSB member Andre
lugovoy allegedly slipped

809
00:42:31,900 –> 00:42:38,800
radioactive polonium-210 into It
vanko’s tea at a cafe in London.

810
00:42:38,800 –> 00:42:41,500
Usually you seemed really
qualified to work at the

811
00:42:41,500 –> 00:42:45,500
Starbucks during your senior
ranking member at the FSB

812
00:42:45,500 –> 00:42:48,700
fucking am I from Reading
quickly vice president poisoning

813
00:42:49,100 –> 00:42:51,000
well I mean your credentials are
certainly there and we

814
00:42:51,000 –> 00:42:52,800
appreciate you trying to start a
new career with us here.

815
00:42:52,800 –> 00:42:55,500
At the Starbucks family was like
oh you quit after one week and

816
00:42:55,500 –> 00:42:56,900
you took a nice.
Okay.

817
00:42:56,900 –> 00:43:00,700
Like that’s so crazy though
because he got away he was in

818
00:43:00,700 –> 00:43:03,400
England and it like it reminds
me seeking Asylum.

819
00:43:03,400 –> 00:43:06,600
You supposed to be a silent.
Reminds me of the North Korea

820
00:43:06,600 –> 00:43:10,400
thing where they killed Kim.
Jong-un’s was a cousin cousin.

821
00:43:10,400 –> 00:43:11,700
Yeah.
Because they didn’t airport in

822
00:43:11,700 –> 00:43:13,500
Malaysia.
Just because, on the off chance

823
00:43:13,500 –> 00:43:15,600
that someone’s going to try to
fly him back and set him up, as

824
00:43:15,600 –> 00:43:18,100
the new figure had that they
could prop him up with, you

825
00:43:18,100 –> 00:43:20,200
know, after some kind of
international, bloody nose

826
00:43:20,200 –> 00:43:21,800
strike two, you know, over
through everything.

827
00:43:21,800 –> 00:43:23,900
They don’t know, he’s the true
error, whatever, blah blah, blah

828
00:43:24,100 –> 00:43:25,900
but they the fucking way they
did.

829
00:43:25,900 –> 00:43:28,200
That is so crazy.
Yeah it was with the set up a

830
00:43:28,200 –> 00:43:30,300
fake pranks.
Yeah they set up a fake picture

831
00:43:30,300 –> 00:43:32,400
and they used the kind of poison
forget the name of it that was

832
00:43:32,400 –> 00:43:35,700
very specifically like oh this
is so you know North I did this

833
00:43:35,700 –> 00:43:36,300
shit.
Yeah.

834
00:43:36,300 –> 00:43:37,900
Just as like a power move
almost.

835
00:43:37,900 –> 00:43:41,100
Yeah.
And there’s an aspect of this

836
00:43:41,100 –> 00:43:42,600
story that’s kind of like that
too.

837
00:43:42,600 –> 00:43:46,700
Well that litvinenko but I
imagine like especially the fat

838
00:43:46,700 –> 00:43:51,500
and that this former FSB member
has never been charged for this.

839
00:43:51,500 –> 00:43:55,200
No England just did an
investigation and decided Well

840
00:43:55,200 –> 00:43:58,400
yeah, this guy definitely did it
but then he went back to Russia

841
00:43:58,400 –> 00:44:01,000
and Russia obviously isn’t going
to extradite.

842
00:44:01,000 –> 00:44:02,400
Yeah.
The one of the wrong fucking ass

843
00:44:02,400 –> 00:44:05,300
fast so they can be tried for a
state.

844
00:44:05,500 –> 00:44:08,800
Assassination carried out on
foreign soil.

845
00:44:08,800 –> 00:44:13,700
Yeah so it’s just kind of that’s
where we are this guy and the

846
00:44:13,700 –> 00:44:16,700
fact is those even spies you
want to think spies are like we

847
00:44:16,700 –> 00:44:18,200
gotta kill this guy before he
kills us.

848
00:44:18,200 –> 00:44:20,900
He’s like we gotta kill this guy
before he makes us look like a

849
00:44:20,908 –> 00:44:22,800
dick.
So we can’t kill other guys.

850
00:44:22,800 –> 00:44:26,000
Yeah, it’s like and you know,
with Tony’s cover up for the

851
00:44:26,008 –> 00:44:28,900
cover-up, for the cover-up, is
just fine with him, being a

852
00:44:28,900 –> 00:44:32,700
former FSB member, I get the
sense that these two probably

853
00:44:32,700 –> 00:44:35,700
just like met up for a drink.
Maybe.

854
00:44:35,700 –> 00:44:37,400
Yeah, maybe he was.
That’s maybe that’s how you get

855
00:44:37,400 –> 00:44:40,100
together, maybe just like, hey,
man, I’m I got some shit.

856
00:44:40,100 –> 00:44:42,200
I gotta tell you about.
I’m not supposed to be here, but

857
00:44:42,200 –> 00:44:44,200
I mean, if you can, if you can
meet me at the cafe, all the

858
00:44:44,300 –> 00:44:46,800
yeah, I’ll slide your flash
drive and when you hopefully get

859
00:44:46,800 –> 00:44:49,500
the bottom of this flash drive
accidentally falls in the team.

860
00:44:49,500 –> 00:44:52,700
He’s like, whoa, yeah, it’s just
drink it anyway.

861
00:44:52,700 –> 00:44:57,700
Blow on this when then run away.
Yeah and and make sure I’m

862
00:44:57,700 –> 00:45:00,100
wearing gloves so that the
polonium-210 doesn’t soak into

863
00:45:00,100 –> 00:45:02,700
my pores and give me fucking
that was a.

864
00:45:02,700 –> 00:45:05,600
I remember when this happened
like it was a big Or.

865
00:45:05,600 –> 00:45:07,400
Yeah.
There were, it was all over the

866
00:45:07,400 –> 00:45:10,600
news and I remember then people
are like, yeah, Putin probably

867
00:45:10,600 –> 00:45:14,100
did it but I didn’t.
I never looked into it enough to

868
00:45:14,100 –> 00:45:16,000
know why?
Yeah, you know, is related to

869
00:45:16,000 –> 00:45:19,300
the didn’t realize, it was
related to this.

870
00:45:19,700 –> 00:45:23,900
And then there’s one more Anna,
politkovskaya who we’ve talked

871
00:45:23,900 –> 00:45:27,500
about, on other podcast before,
we did an episode of what in the

872
00:45:27,500 –> 00:45:30,500
world about how hard it is to be
a journalist in other countries.

873
00:45:30,500 –> 00:45:32,500
Yeah, and she’s a good example
of that.

874
00:45:32,500 –> 00:45:35,000
She was a journalist writer and
human rights.

875
00:45:35,300 –> 00:45:39,100
Activist, she gained national
attention for her reporting on

876
00:45:39,100 –> 00:45:42,500
the war in chechnya, but also
extensively covered the

877
00:45:42,500 –> 00:45:44,600
apartment bombings.
The pretty cool.

878
00:45:44,900 –> 00:45:46,500
Yeah.
Kind of medicine the war in

879
00:45:46,500 –> 00:45:51,400
chechnya and she was basically
terrorized for most of her

880
00:45:51,400 –> 00:45:54,600
professional career.
Yeah, at one point she was

881
00:45:54,600 –> 00:45:59,200
arrested by Russian military
forces and subjected to a mock

882
00:45:59,200 –> 00:46:03,200
execution.
Like that is insane.

883
00:46:03,200 –> 00:46:05,200
Yeah.
It’s like child.

884
00:46:05,400 –> 00:46:07,600
Actually inhumane.
Yeah, just be like, we’re gonna

885
00:46:07,600 –> 00:46:10,200
put a bag on your head and then
just surprised.

886
00:46:10,200 –> 00:46:11,900
Yeah.
And it’s just that I’m going.

887
00:46:11,900 –> 00:46:14,400
Hey, we can do this at any time.
Yes.

888
00:46:14,400 –> 00:46:17,000
So maybe shut up and she would
show this point.

889
00:46:17,000 –> 00:46:19,900
We’ve killed three people and we
try to keep it at three cover-up

890
00:46:19,900 –> 00:46:23,400
murders for every false flag and
you just like I will make it for

891
00:46:24,000 –> 00:46:28,700
fuck but I’m just telling you so
you know and she kept reporting.

892
00:46:29,000 –> 00:46:32,400
So the next thing they did was
they tried to poison her on a

893
00:46:32,400 –> 00:46:36,300
flight and it they ended up just
Diverting the flight back to

894
00:46:36,300 –> 00:46:39,300
Russia and she was in the
hospital for a while but also

895
00:46:39,300 –> 00:46:41,300
didn’t kill her.
She survived.

896
00:46:41,300 –> 00:46:47,300
She keeps reporting.
Finally finally, in October of

897
00:46:47,300 –> 00:46:51,700
2006, October 7, 2006 Charlie,
Brown kicks, the football.

898
00:46:51,700 –> 00:46:58,500
She was killed in a contract
execution, on October 7. 2006,

899
00:46:58,500 –> 00:47:02,900
five men were arrested, but it’s
never been revealed who ordered

900
00:47:02,900 –> 00:47:05,100
and paid for the killing, but
it’s worth.

901
00:47:05,300 –> 00:47:08,100
During the murder happened on
Vladimir Putin’s, birthday

902
00:47:08,100 –> 00:47:09,900
Saloon, your cabinet got
together.

903
00:47:10,200 –> 00:47:12,800
We don’t like gifts.
We got you something and we’ve

904
00:47:12,800 –> 00:47:14,300
been going here.
Don’t worry.

905
00:47:14,300 –> 00:47:16,300
We didn’t pay a lot of money for
it.

906
00:47:16,700 –> 00:47:20,000
Human life, you actually build
the source in Russia.

907
00:47:21,200 –> 00:47:25,400
So there’s all of that when it
comes to the Russian apartment

908
00:47:25,400 –> 00:47:27,500
bombings and there’s one last
thing.

909
00:47:27,500 –> 00:47:32,500
If if all of this isn’t proof
enough that yeah the FSB was

910
00:47:32,500 –> 00:47:36,700
probably complicit in this and
had some Advanced knowledge on

911
00:47:36,700 –> 00:47:41,400
September 13th, just hours after
the second explosion in Moscow

912
00:47:41,400 –> 00:47:43,300
because it’s worth doing.
And you might have forgotten.

913
00:47:43,500 –> 00:47:45,100
This is the fifth one.
This is the one that they

914
00:47:45,100 –> 00:47:46,900
prevented.
It’s much less.

915
00:47:47,100 –> 00:47:49,000
All the sketches shit those
going on with the first four.

916
00:47:49,200 –> 00:47:51,200
Yeah.
And the first for all, use the

917
00:47:51,200 –> 00:47:54,600
same type of explosive, which
was only produced in a

918
00:47:54,600 –> 00:47:57,500
government lab controlled by the
FSB Hoops.

919
00:47:57,500 –> 00:48:00,100
Which I don’t think they ever
expected that information to

920
00:48:00,100 –> 00:48:02,400
come out.
I think it was when that bond

921
00:48:02,400 –> 00:48:06,100
that fifth one got forwarded and
that guy test, Before they could

922
00:48:06,100 –> 00:48:07,900
get their the 20,000 yelling
machine.

923
00:48:07,900 –> 00:48:10,600
That was broken that is whole
life’s work to maintain and

924
00:48:10,600 –> 00:48:13,000
operate and use exactly.
And again, it’s your

925
00:48:13,000 –> 00:48:15,000
fingerprints all over.
It’s like if you’re leaving

926
00:48:15,000 –> 00:48:18,600
someone creep, if it’s like
T-Pain threatening to rape you,

927
00:48:18,600 –> 00:48:21,500
but he’s auto-tuning and stuff,
you know, where it’s like, okay,

928
00:48:21,500 –> 00:48:22,300
mr.
Payne.

929
00:48:22,300 –> 00:48:25,000
I mean, this is your
ex-girlfriend, and you think you

930
00:48:25,000 –> 00:48:29,100
calling cards all over the ship
exactly and it.

931
00:48:29,400 –> 00:48:33,800
So if all of that, the fact that
they got caught planting the

932
00:48:33,800 –> 00:48:38,100
fifth bomb, literally, Lee yeah
FSB got caught planning, the

933
00:48:38,100 –> 00:48:41,900
fifth, Bobo hand on the window
sill the hook moment.

934
00:48:41,900 –> 00:48:43,500
Yeah.
Like even then if you’re one of

935
00:48:43,508 –> 00:48:47,600
those Occam’s razor is fucks.
You have to assume that the

936
00:48:47,600 –> 00:48:51,000
person who got caught planning,
the fifth bomb planted.

937
00:48:51,000 –> 00:48:52,300
The first four.
Yeah.

938
00:48:52,300 –> 00:48:55,800
Like that is the most obvious
conclusions Gotten Good

939
00:48:55,800 –> 00:48:57,300
possible.
You know, he’s had these had

940
00:48:57,300 –> 00:48:59,700
plenty of practice.
I wouldn’t want to change up the

941
00:48:59,700 –> 00:49:01,600
staff.
It’s going so well.

942
00:49:02,500 –> 00:49:08,000
And so if all of that, Convince
you that the FSB knew about this

943
00:49:08,300 –> 00:49:12,100
consider this on September 13th,
just hours after the second

944
00:49:12,100 –> 00:49:18,900
explosion in Moscow, Russian
Duma speaker, Kennedy seleznyov,

945
00:49:19,400 –> 00:49:23,800
whatever of the Communist Party
made an announcement quote.

946
00:49:24,000 –> 00:49:27,800
I have just received a report
according to information from

947
00:49:27,800 –> 00:49:31,600
rostov-on-don and apartment
building in the city of Bogotá

948
00:49:31,600 –> 00:49:35,200
asks was blown up last night.
Now here’s the thing.

949
00:49:35,800 –> 00:49:39,900
He’s right that an apartment
building in the city of Volga.

950
00:49:39,900 –> 00:49:44,600
Dansk was blown up it’s just
that it happened three days

951
00:49:44,600 –> 00:49:51,300
after he said this good hike
that is Keystone Cops bullshit.

952
00:49:51,300 –> 00:49:54,100
Yeah.
That’s a Reno 911 false flag

953
00:49:54,100 –> 00:49:56,400
like what the fuck.
Yeah.

954
00:49:56,500 –> 00:50:00,800
And when at one point he got I
didn’t read the first part of

955
00:50:00,800 –> 00:50:05,100
this note, I was passed, he got
questioned about this.

956
00:50:05,200 –> 00:50:08,400
This by reporter in public and
they just turned the reporters

957
00:50:08,400 –> 00:50:12,200
microphone off and refused to
answer the questions to guy that

958
00:50:12,200 –> 00:50:14,100
stands behind every politician
with a pair of garden.

959
00:50:14,100 –> 00:50:18,500
Shears were just like snip XLR
cable and shut the fuck up.

960
00:50:18,800 –> 00:50:22,900
Like how the fuck do you
announce the bombing three days

961
00:50:22,900 –> 00:50:25,200
in advance and then go no, we
had no idea.

962
00:50:25,300 –> 00:50:28,400
Yeah, what just goes down.
The memory hole is Winston,

963
00:50:28,400 –> 00:50:32,300
Smith’s job you know, fucking
what it was a two plus two is

964
00:50:32,300 –> 00:50:35,100
five bitch.
So shut up and eat your turn.

965
00:50:35,300 –> 00:50:39,000
Stu.
So that’s the Russian apartment

966
00:50:39,000 –> 00:50:43,100
bombings and good reminder, at
this point, the guy who pulled

967
00:50:43,100 –> 00:50:46,400
that off is in charge of the
largest nuclear Arsenal in the

968
00:50:46,400 –> 00:50:47,800
world.
Yeah, people were given rather

969
00:50:47,800 –> 00:50:48,300
than on.
Yeah.

970
00:50:48,300 –> 00:50:50,800
Russia’s got more shit than us.
Yeah, just barely but they have

971
00:50:50,800 –> 00:50:52,500
more.
Have you ever looked into the

972
00:50:52,500 –> 00:50:57,600
drop off between like it goes,
Russia like 7,000 us.

973
00:50:57,600 –> 00:51:01,500
Like 6900 England is like, 432
or something.

974
00:51:01,500 –> 00:51:04,400
France, his third and they have
like 250.

975
00:51:04,400 –> 00:51:07,300
Yeah.
It’s like we’re gonna dominate

976
00:51:07,300 –> 00:51:09,300
if that war ever breaks out.
Again.

977
00:51:09,300 –> 00:51:13,400
Dominate what fucking?
Yeah, breathable oxygen, you

978
00:51:13,400 –> 00:51:16,800
know the sunlight reaching the
surface of the Earth and then in

979
00:51:16,800 –> 00:51:20,000
light of these clouds of debris
and fucking human remains

980
00:51:20,000 –> 00:51:22,900
blocking out the Sun.
So sleep.

981
00:51:22,900 –> 00:51:25,400
Easy America.
Yeah, that guy is now thing,

982
00:51:25,400 –> 00:51:29,200
he’s missing our president as a
puppet for his own means.

983
00:51:29,200 –> 00:51:31,600
Yeah.
Be ironic the, the America land

984
00:51:31,600 –> 00:51:35,100
of being Jeff Dunham but that’s
two.

985
00:51:35,300 –> 00:51:39,400
Money to be ventriloquist.
Stood, jalapeno on a stick.

986
00:51:39,400 –> 00:51:42,200
How does he get away with that?
Like that’s, oh, just directly

987
00:51:42,200 –> 00:51:45,100
race have jacked racism?
Yeah, fuck.

988
00:51:45,100 –> 00:51:46,900
He’s not saying it’s the puppet
saying it.

989
00:51:47,000 –> 00:51:48,600
That’s a good point, I didn’t
think about that.

990
00:51:49,100 –> 00:51:51,800
So, yeah, that’s the Russian
apartment bombings.

991
00:51:51,800 –> 00:51:55,200
Definitely read that National
Review article and it’s probably

992
00:51:55,200 –> 00:51:57,300
the only time will ever
recognize recommend everything

993
00:51:57,300 –> 00:51:58,700
anything written on National
Review.

994
00:51:58,800 –> 00:52:04,000
Yeah, it’s his heel is clear
that that’s his shit, right?

995
00:52:04,000 –> 00:52:05,400
That’s a Who?
Ooh.

996
00:52:05,500 –> 00:52:08,400
Oh fucking guy.
Did Gore Vidal Guy Williams?

997
00:52:08,400 –> 00:52:10,600
No, no fucking William F
Buckley.

998
00:52:11,400 –> 00:52:14,600
Yeah, yeah.
That’s the whole fucking neocon

999
00:52:14,600 –> 00:52:15,600
thing.
It’s kind of like what?

1000
00:52:15,700 –> 00:52:18,100
What Infowars and Fox News.
It was to trap.

1001
00:52:18,100 –> 00:52:20,900
This is what that was to Reagan.
That was kind of his his in

1002
00:52:20,900 –> 00:52:23,900
flowers was National Review.
Least that’s my understanding of

1003
00:52:23,900 –> 00:52:26,100
it.
Yeah, could be but they’re

1004
00:52:26,100 –> 00:52:29,300
definitely right about the
Russian apartment Goddamn face.

1005
00:52:29,300 –> 00:52:32,100
Yeah it certainly are and this
is good.

1006
00:52:32,100 –> 00:52:35,700
Yeah boy.
So this episode Turns out, we

1007
00:52:35,700 –> 00:52:37,800
only do this podcast.
Other people have to know this

1008
00:52:37,800 –> 00:52:39,100
shit.
We don’t have to bear the burden

1009
00:52:39,100 –> 00:52:42,100
of being freaked out alone.
I like to just unload this on

1010
00:52:42,100 –> 00:52:44,200
other people.
Yeah, that’s why I started this

1011
00:52:44,200 –> 00:52:47,500
network makes me a real hoot at
dinner parties but it’s like

1012
00:52:47,500 –> 00:52:49,500
what do you mean I’ve tuned as,
like just really getting to the

1013
00:52:49,500 –> 00:52:53,200
bottom of aliens on the to let
me show you something that the

1014
00:52:53,200 –> 00:52:57,200
Secretary of Defense of America
in the 20th century said about

1015
00:52:57,200 –> 00:52:59,200
this yet.
They’re like so do you don’t

1016
00:52:59,200 –> 00:53:03,900
want a crab cake?
Yeah it’s interesting.

1017
00:53:03,900 –> 00:53:06,400
It is it’s interesting.
Talking to people about because

1018
00:53:06,400 –> 00:53:08,600
I feel like, you know, I
researched this all the time we

1019
00:53:08,600 –> 00:53:09,900
I can talk about this with
anyone.

1020
00:53:09,900 –> 00:53:10,500
So, of course.
Yeah.

1021
00:53:10,500 –> 00:53:12,300
And you bring it up and people
are like, yeah.

1022
00:53:12,300 –> 00:53:14,100
And you’re just like, oh, most
people just don’t want to know.

1023
00:53:14,100 –> 00:53:15,100
I don’t even really want to
know.

1024
00:53:15,100 –> 00:53:16,500
But yeah.
And that was, you know, a little

1025
00:53:16,500 –> 00:53:18,500
be like I should get the whole
picture here.

1026
00:53:18,500 –> 00:53:24,100
Yeah, so we should wrap it up.
This is coming out two weeks

1027
00:53:24,100 –> 00:53:26,700
from now.
So I know you have a whole host

1028
00:53:26,700 –> 00:53:28,600
of plugs.
I don’t know what I got going

1029
00:53:28,600 –> 00:53:29,900
on.
Darkest hour at the Worcester

1030
00:53:29,900 –> 00:53:31,900
County.
Three won the second Friday of

1031
00:53:31,900 –> 00:53:35,000
every month at the Westside
comedy theater live.

1032
00:53:35,200 –> 00:53:38,300
Podcast last Saturday of the
month of the Hollywood Hotel.

1033
00:53:38,400 –> 00:53:43,700
Maybe I want to keep that going.
Yeah, well for me, I’m fixing on

1034
00:53:43,700 –> 00:53:45,000
my website.
So, I actually have, like, I

1035
00:53:45,008 –> 00:53:46,300
realized like, I’ll plug these
shows.

1036
00:53:46,300 –> 00:53:48,400
I’m like, I never actually put a
link to get tickets or anything,

1037
00:53:48,400 –> 00:53:52,600
but in Oklahoma, the 8th, 9th
and 10th of February, come out

1038
00:53:52,600 –> 00:53:56,000
there in Arizona, the 23rd and
24th, February headlining,

1039
00:53:56,000 –> 00:53:58,200
comedy off Main Street, and I
want to sing Mesa.

1040
00:53:58,500 –> 00:54:01,200
Then I’m at the Gateway show at
a big theater in San Francisco.

1041
00:54:01,300 –> 00:54:03,000
February 25th.
That’s going to be a banana

1042
00:54:03,000 –> 00:54:03,900
show.
I’m gonna have to get high and

1043
00:54:03,900 –> 00:54:06,100
perform in front of a shit.
A lot of people and that’s going

1044
00:54:06,100 –> 00:54:08,400
to go very badly and you’d be
wise to it.

1045
00:54:08,400 –> 00:54:09,600
Yeah.
I think that’s going to go bad.

1046
00:54:09,600 –> 00:54:10,900
Yeah.
Certainly I’m not good.

1047
00:54:10,900 –> 00:54:14,200
I don’t not like smoking pot and
one local, one headline of the

1048
00:54:14,200 –> 00:54:17,500
Ontario Improv, March 20th at
8:00, that’s always a fun time.

1049
00:54:17,500 –> 00:54:19,800
It’s my, it’s my home Club
started out there and I always

1050
00:54:19,800 –> 00:54:22,700
love coming back so my birthday
March 20th.

1051
00:54:22,700 –> 00:54:24,600
Yep, no shit.
Go celebrate.

1052
00:54:24,600 –> 00:54:27,000
My birthday at the Ontario
Improv, watching, Connor

1053
00:54:27,000 –> 00:54:29,200
mcspadden tell jokes, I can’t
think of a better way to hang

1054
00:54:29,200 –> 00:54:31,400
out unless you want to kill a
journalist that’s been, that’s

1055
00:54:31,400 –> 00:54:33,200
been fucking with atom, which
is, oh yeah.

1056
00:54:33,200 –> 00:54:35,600
Well, me and me and me, and
Chad, and everyone else A chip

1057
00:54:35,600 –> 00:54:40,200
into for.
All right let’s get the fuck out

1058
00:54:40,200 –> 00:54:42,200
of here.
Connor say goodbye.

1059
00:54:42,200 –> 00:54:43,700
Goodbye everybody goodbye
everybody.

1060
00:54:43,700 –> 00:54:44,200
We love it.