Conspiracy! The Show The Gay Mafia

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Welcome to conspiracy the show
with your host, Adam Todd Brown

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and Connor mcspadden.
Hey, everybody, Welcome to

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conspiracy the show.
I’m Adam Todd Brown, who are

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you?
Hi I’m Joe, K.

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Connor mcspadden still as much
as I wanted this public episode

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about the gay Mafia to be two
straight white, dudes, riffing

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it up.
Well, I mean on what the

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conspiracy means, I mean Connor
is missing Connors questionable.

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God, they’re not entitled.
Good point.

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Do you not completely to your
like 1 and 3/4 straight white

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man.
Yeah, that’s an excellent point.

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But yeah, Connor last, we heard
he sent a text to his mom that

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said he was in trouble.
Some black stuff started coming

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out of his mouth and he was
taken to a hospital in the

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Ukraine.
Yeah.

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And hopefully, he’ll be back on
the show soon.

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Yeah.
But the See widens mmm as to

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what’s happened to Connor
mcspadden.

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But my guest joke, a was also
with me last week on a patreon

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exclusive, yes episode.
Where we talked about the

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lavender scare which key is a
precursor to what we’re going to

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be talking about today and we’ll
recap that a little bit but if

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you want to really hear us, talk
about it.

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Have you want to hear as deep
dive?

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Yeah, there’s an entire episode
about it.

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On the patreon patreon.com slash
on pops.

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And as discussed on last week’s
episode full disclosure.

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We both ate a weed brownie
before we started recording.

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I still have a quarter of it
left that I might just slam a

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jam right now.
You might as well.

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I mean, I ate, I ate all of mine
about 10 minutes before you got

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here and it’s really feeling it.
Now, I’m feeling it.

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I have a DUI class tonight.
That’ll be fun, but the

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instructor doesn’t take it.
Seriously, why should I?

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I’ve got a host, an open mic.
This is going to be great.

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Fine.
So we’re talking about the gay

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Mafia, which is, it’s, it’s a
the idea that somewhere in

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Hollywood there exists a group
of very powerful gay people who

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will destroy your career.
If you cross them and we’ll talk

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a little bit about, I think this
is something that has its roots

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in the lavender scare which we
did last week’s episode about

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and it’s basically McCarthyism
for gay people.

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It was instead of hey are you a
communist?

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If so we’re going to find out,
we’re going to fire you from

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your government job.
It was that but for gay people

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and thousands of people lost
their jobs, over it and joke a

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is struggling to get through
that brownie.

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It’s so chewy they are very
chewy.

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Yes, oh, my God, me like the
fucking jaws of life.

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Okay, okay I’m here.
We’re back on track, we’re back.

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Jack.
And my ears are open again.

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I was little and Joe ubered.
Here.

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I should add.
I did.

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Yes, no II definitely?
I definitely did.

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I am not driving.
Yeah, and I record at home so

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I’ll be fine.
So yeah, anybody who gave a shit

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about nobody fucking cares.
They’d be mad.

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We just didn’t do a podcast
while driving High.

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Yeah, pretty much.
Let me know.

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Oh really.
Fun to have audio of a car

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accident.
Periscope it man, not gonna

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Periscope shit.
Go to the unpop Snapchat.

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It doesn’t exist.
It does but we always got shit

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on it.
Yeah, follow us on Snapchat,

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maybe we’ll use it someday.
Maybe if enough if they give us

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a TV show, yes, Snapchat show
then we’ll use Snapchat.

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Oh sweetie only way we’re coming
to your platform in any real way

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Snapchat yeah yeah put up or
shut up motherfuckers.

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Put our handsome faces?
Yeah.

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We could talk about
conspiracies, I’m not have chat.

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We can.
Yeah, that’s a kids are into

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these laterthe slime and
conspiracy theories.

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We just did a flatterer know we
were going to do a flat Earth

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episode but I haven’t put the
research together yet.

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Yeah.
You’re going to annoy a lot of

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people with that.
Oh yeah.

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Boy, NBA players.
So it’s true.

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So many know, I know, and it’s
just so fucking sad.

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Yeah, it’s a weird thing.
We’re not talking about the MBA

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or flat earthers.
Know, we’re here to do.

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We’re here to talk about the gay
Mafia and if I don’t get back on

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track they will ruin my career.
Yeah, basically.

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Yeah.
But you know to be honest if we

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do get back on track, they might
ruin my career.

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Let’s do it.
I’m at another one.

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Just calling Nowt calling out,
Bryan Singer.

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Come get me, this one’s for the
public.

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I hope you hear this.
You fucking weirdo.

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Oh man, I’m glad I never went to
that party.

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I got invited to.
Oh, yeah, yeah.

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When I first moved to LA I got
invited to a brine singer party

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and I was nervous about the
amount of cocaine not even the

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sexual predator.
I was sure it’s not the amount

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of cocaine that would be there
and feeling peer pressured into

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doing said cocaine.
So I said no I’m like goddamn

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like I Have been locked in a
cage for 11 years and then like

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been a movie star.
Yeah.

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God damn it.
I know – yeah but he got tired

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of me.
He could have just let me out of

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the cage.
I’m like all right.

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I’ll put you on an X-Men movie.
That’s right.

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Up there with Keith carry story
about how he was supposed to be

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on one of the 9/11 Plains of was
that Keith Gary?

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I don’t remember.
I think it was, is it if not

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everyone spread that rumor?
As if it’s true supposed to be

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on it, one of the planes that on
9/11 when he was what, like 12

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or 13.
I swear he he told me.

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Much older than me.
I swear he told me that because

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I think I said, yeah, you should
roast battle.

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Just trying to think of that
would be.

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How does that?
How does that?

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Yeah.
Wasn’t I got very, I’ll ask him.

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I feel like it is.
I feel like I feel like it was

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about this on stage now that
you’re now that you’ve talked

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about.
I’m like yeah.

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You know what?
Yeah, that might be a joke of

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his.
So yeah, the gay Mafia Mafia.

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But listen to last week’s
episode or I think we’ve given

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pretty much the rundown as far
as what the lavender scare was.

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Yeah, it was McCarthyism for gay
people.

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Yeah.
All you have to do Riri.

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Crucible and then just apply it
to gay people instead of

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Communists.
There you go.

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You got the whole thing.
Pretty much out of tissue by was

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a fabulous drag queen, who
worked for the state department.

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I want to see that version of
The Marvelous mrs.

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Maisel.
Oh my God.

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No, now I just want to, I need
to like, I need to find a baby

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drag queen that doesn’t have a
name yet and be like, you got to

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be teaching, but Crucible and
Gentlemen, please welcome to the

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stage 2 cubic crystal ball.
That would be pretty.

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Great.
Right?

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Yeah, that is a good.
That’s a good drag name.

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I love that.
And the difference between

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McCarthyism and the Red Scare
and the lavender scare as this

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was called, is this lasted 40
fucking years?

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Yeah.
And we certainly I don’t think

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we’re firing people for being
communists in large numbers well

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into the 70s and 80s and 90s and
now.

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Yeah and now but somehow Now we
federally sanctioned doing that

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for 40 years, to gay people in
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Hmm, and I feel like the gay
Mafia conspiracy theory is just

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sort of another way to do that
or it’s just another extension

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of what fueled the lavender
scare which was hey, all these

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gay people are having jobs and
doing things.

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How dare they like normal
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Let’s intervene.
Fucking dare they.

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Yeah and motherfuckers
intervened and thousands of

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people lost their jobs but
eventually they like with like

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don’t ask don’t tell and things
like that.

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I can’t even call that.
Like yeah.

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It’s like we don’t want to know
like that’s not a.

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Yeah.
You can not talk about it.

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This is voice is lasting.
Yeah that voice.

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This is just my guess this all
started in the 50s.

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See, it’s just now my general.
I work for the government voice.

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Can we?
Let’s read One, the quote from

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McCarthy.
Oh there you can see this last

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week’s episode where.
Oh yeah, if you want to be

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against the coffee Boys, you’ve
either got to be a communist are

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cocksucka.
It’s a great line and its really

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good line.
I could that that would be in 12

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Angry Men.
Like.

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Yeah, I feel like, yeah.
Oh, absolutely.

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And it’s crazy that this was so
much bigger in scope compared to

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the Red Scare, which took down a
few Hundred people but this took

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down thousands over a long
period of US history and we’re

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just now kind of ignite it’s
like the fucking Armenian

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Genocide.
Yeah we’re we’re just now.

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Like all right.
Maybe it happened fine.

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Like there’s just now a
documentary coming out called

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the lavender scare which we
talked about a little bit last

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week, but Google around for that
it’s like just doing festivals

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and things right now.
Yeah I’m excited.

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Now for this to come out.
Yeah.

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I want to see the documents.
I’m just learning about all

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this.
Yeah.

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I mean obviously IV, I’ve heard
the term gay Mafia before but

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like real lavender scared like I
had no idea that happened.

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I’m was so excited to learn
about that.

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Yeah.
And it this just feels like an

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extension of that where it’s
mostly just a reaction to gay

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people getting more and more
rights right in this country

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basically and it’s an it was a
negative term basically that

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people the Wikipedia defines it
as a negative.

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Of term used to describe the
alleged disproportional behind

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the scene, influence of gay,
rights groups and the lgbtq

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community in politics media,
culture and everyday life.

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So already it sounds fucking
absurd.

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It’s everything politics, media,
culture and everyday.

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Life is literally everything.
Yeah.

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So, like, if they wanted to pick
one of these things, I’d be

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like, you know what, you have a
leg or two to stand on, you know

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what I mean?
– they just wanted to say.

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I mean, Even though it all is
absurd, no matter what you say,

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but like there, I guess you
could have.

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Even if it’s a nutcase argument,
you could still make one for

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like, oh yeah, well they’re the
gay Mafia runs literally just

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Hollywood and like, yeah it’s
like yeah.

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All right, I see where you’re
coming from.

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You’re wrong.
But I see where you’re coming

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from, right?
But it’s like oh to think that

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we’re infiltrated and we run
everything everywhere.

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Everyday, life is on your list.
Everyday life.

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Everyday, everyday life.
Yes.

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And you have to think that what
that means to the people who

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would say something like that
is, oh well, I bought a fucking

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box of Rice Krispies last week
and it had a fucking flag on it.

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Had a rainbow flag on it.
Why, why?

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Why Allah see that?
How do I explain that to my kid?

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Pretty fucking easy to explain
that to your kid if you’re not a

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goddamn monster?
Holy shit.

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But I have to think that’s What
they mean is like why are gay

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people allowed to be gay in
public?

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Yeah.
Why are they allowed to be part

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of my life?
Yeah, which goddamn, yeah, I

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want a footing to start your
conspiracy theory.

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All right.
It’s going to be really hard to

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get the Centrist over to your
side, starting with some shit

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like that.
So there was an early use of the

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term.
English critic, Kenneth Tynan

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proposed a nautical to Playboy I
am a suspect or ski in late 1967

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on the homosexual Mafia in the
Arts a suspect or ski it wasn’t

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that is that’s that damn it.
I had it.

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And then it went away.
I had the wording and then it

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went away.
It was something about oh is

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that Saved by the Bell and
Russia something like that.

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Something to the effect of its
Mario, Has his mission

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equipment.
Maybe some Slater was pretty

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cool and Playboy past on the
article, right?

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Oh good.
Yeah.

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How Progressive for Playboy, but
I also like they vote.

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Like is problematic is Playboy,
is they’ve always been I guess

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about an inch ahead of the curb.
You know like just a little bit

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just ever so slightly.
It’s like okay.

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Like I guess you were doing some
cool things.

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No.
Let me let me read you a suspect

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or ski He’s quote, I don’t know
if this is like even an N word

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situation, you read it, man.
Oh my God.

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Yeah, no, I’m glad you’re
letting me say this.

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This is what he said, quote
culture hounds were paying

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homage to the faggoty Smo, as
they never have done before.

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Wow, that was his, when he
turned it down, he was like,

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yeah, but I mean are onto
something kid.

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I maybe in a few years the word
fag T smile.

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Oh my God.
That is, I love that.

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Oh wow, yeah, that’s a pretty
amazing what I need to make sure

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that I am presenting a proper
amount of fact faggot.

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He’s Mo on a daily basis.
That’s oh yes.

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Yeah.
That feels like a word.

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You could just take a known
that’s gonna.

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Oh yeah.
No, I’m taking it.

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That’s good.
That’s my new.

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That’s gonna be my new.
Like name are first.

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Album is gonna be my new Femme,
like hashtag Femme.

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Life gonna be like hashtag.
Hashtag, faggoty is Mo honey.

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Hell yeah, it was used in the
70s, a few times by journalist

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Stephen gains.
And this virus in my opinion

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about Playboy.
Now, by the way, I’ll play boys.

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Trash.
I worked there for a few Edge.

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I tried to be like the cool,
like the cool guy who is like?

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Yeah, I guess it’s kind of like,
you know, they’re kind of

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perfect.
No.

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Okay.
So I rescind all of them.

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Yeah.
Their shitty journalists even

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gains used the term but he used
it more in not really a

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derogatory way he was talking
about like all the people who

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hung out at Studio 54 And he was
using it more in, it’s just a

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loose social Collective, or like
a social Clique of people who

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all happen to be gay and have a
lot of power and he just called

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it the gay Mafia like just as
like and in passing like silly

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little nickname.
Yeah, which like they’re what

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there’s a bunch of country music
groups, who call themselves the

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music Mafia.
I’ll be honest with you, I don’t

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hate that, you know, I’m like,
yeah, you know, that that’s not

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bad.
Yeah, nothing really

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interesting.
Acknowledging that they all are

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powerful people who hang out
together, but yeah, no fine.

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Like that’s there’s I don’t
think that entomology and Tamala

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etymology and etymology the
etymology.

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Yeah, entomology is.
What bugs?

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Yeah.
The etymology of that isn’t like

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rooted in hatred.
Yeah.

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So where it starts to kind of be
rooted in.

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That is one thing that happened
there was a 2002 Vanity Fair

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interview.
And Burrows was the writer of

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the article.
He did the interview and I

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mentioned that just because we
have a podcast called Misfortune

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that we interviewed him on for
the first episode.

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So, cool, which was about Lou
Pearlman.

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Which oh, boy, man, is that a
crazy story.

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Whoa, and it’s it’s a really fun
episode like it gets it like

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Bryan.
Burrough.

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Check that out.
Ryan Burrows broke the Lou

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Pearlman pedophilia story.
Yeah, which is nuts because

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Because, like, everyone, he had
already like, people knew he was

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laundering money, right?
Right.

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Shit like that.
But people were like, no, this

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shitty person, we had no idea.
He was like a monster, right?

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Good tried and true monster.
Yeah, and Brian Burrows, is the

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guy who broke that story that’s
incredibly interviewed him for

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that episode so people should go
check that out.

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Yeah, for real.
That’s wow.

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That’s fucking cool.
And he interviewed this Michael

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Ovitz guy, let me pull up the
article.

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It’s Vanity Fair, it’s from
2002.

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So this this was one of the
first places where the idea of a

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gay Mafia operating in
Hollywood.

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Kind of came to the public light
in our, like, in the Modern Age

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I guess.
I mean all the stuff we

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mentioned before was the modern
age.

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You know what the fuck.
I mean, people listening at

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home.
God damn it.

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You got it.
Yeah, come on, but fuckers, go

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out and read this article.
It’s on A fair.com.

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It’s called Ovitz Agony Stace.
What?

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And it’s written by Bryan
Burrough.

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Shout out to him.
And this Michael Ovitz, he was,

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he started this artist
Management Group which was a

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company that he invested a lot
of money.

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And he was this high-powered,
agent, or manager and

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represented, all these people,
like, Leo DiCaprio, like really

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big actors, right and shit.
And he started this new company

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that just failed, really Hard.
He invested like a hundred

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million dollars in it and
eventually sold it for 12

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million.
Oh, yeah.

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And that’s, he gives this
interview in 2002 to Brian

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Burrows and kind of he doesn’t
imply.

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He just flat out says that this
huge group of gay Executives in

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Hollywood.
Basically conspired to destroy

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his His career and he goes on to
call them the gay Mafia and

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names names.
All he says so much crazy shit.

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That Brian Burrows kicks off the
article talking about how most

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of what he said about people
like Michael Eisner.

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And, you know, people he had
worked at with at CAA all of

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these people like he says,
unspeakable things that Brian

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Burroughs will not publish And
the stuff he does publish is

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basically Michael Ovitz saying,
hey, there’s this gay Mafia that

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if you cross them in any way
including you just ran a

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business and that they invested
in and you failed because I

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don’t think this isn’t a case of
him like having said something

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homophobic, it was more him.
He and started a company that a

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lot of people invested in and it
failed.

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Yeah.
And he was like well because of

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that this gay Mafia is a flaming
homosexual to destroy yourself

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Escape Coat.
Exactly.

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And that’s one of the first
places that this idea surfaces

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and it’s like, if every instance
of it was that, I’d be like,

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wow.
Maybe if it was just you fucked

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up, a business deal.
And now a bunch of really

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powerful people.
Make sure you never work again.

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I could see that.
Like, that’s not that crazy of a

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thing but what it’s morphed into
now, and even that’s kind of

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fucking crazy.
Like, and Still haven’t seen the

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things, he didn’t get published,
but what it’s kind of morphed

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into now is oh well.
I said this homophobic thing or

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I supported this homophobic
cause and now people don’t want

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to work with me.
There’s a gay Mafia which that’s

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like.
Like if you said something super

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racist and you got fired from
your job for it, you wouldn’t

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come out and be like, oh,
there’s a black Mafia.

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Well, it didn’t, they did, they
did a Whole 30 Rock about that.

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That they did a whole Bedrock
episode about like the idea well

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actually it was a story arc
where Tracy Morgan’s character

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he’s convinced that the Black
Mafia is out to get him and like

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oh sure.
Yeah and like the whole gag is

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that it is true.
Oh yeah really.

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They are out to get him.
I forget the reason like why

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they’re out to get him.
I’ve completely forgot, but it’s

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like, oh yeah, it’s like run by
ironically at the time Bill

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Cosby was like there, I was just
Say what if the the rape thing

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was just one Mafia executing a
hit on the other, right?

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Oh, well, God, bless 30 Rock as
they were.

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They did that job.
They were the first.

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Yeah, I mean, he’ll they did.
They did that joke?

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Yeah, about Cosby favorite
joking, about it way before you

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couldn’t joke about Cosby
raping.

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Oh yeah, oh yeah.
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah like, wow.

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Well yeah, why don’t they had
some fucking Scoops?

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Yeah they really they really had
Had a lot of fun.

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Like with that one, I love that
they did that and then I

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remember they also did the thing
where like where it was like a

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parallel to when Tracy Morgan
did those homophobic jokes and

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his stand-up and then they
parallel that into the show

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where I was, like, why did you
have to go and piss off the

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gays?
They’re the most organized of

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all the groups.
And I’m like, yeah, you know

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what?
She she doesn’t fucking point,

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probably happen in real life.
Ooh, boy, did we activate And

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like, what’s crazy to me is what
do you expect that?

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Like wouldn’t you expect if you
say a bunch of homophobic shit?

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Most of the gay people in
Hollywood aren’t going to want

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to work with you?
Hope it jokes jokes.

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Oh yeah, I’ll just show.
You forget just Joe, just

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chokes.
Yeah, you know I didn’t say they

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were good jokes but it’s just
yeah.

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Or what if it?
But sometimes it’s politics

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because one of the other
instances of this Happening

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aside from Michael Ovitz which
was in 2002 in 2008.

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What hey, what just popped up, I
think like a newsletter, a

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newsletter daily Insider,
Entertainment News.

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Okay, okay.
Okay, that makes sense.

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It’s oh God, why can’t I
remember his name?

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Yeah, for black panther black
panther?

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Yeah, they heard what we’re
talking about.

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Like hey hey hey easy.
Now that shit back.

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Right Black Mafia.
Yeah.

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Well I’m obviously goddamn it.
Listen to go to war with the gay

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Mafia.
Now it’s gonna be a whole thing.

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Andy Cohen and King to Colour
gonna go to chawla to college in

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sha Allah.
Well yep one of those ho boy.

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I feel bad now.
Oh I feel bad knowing the Black

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Mafia has been listening this
whole time.

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Remember his fucking name that
annoys me that I can’t remember

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his name.
So yeah there was another Other

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case in 2014, Bill Maher was
responding to the firing of a

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man named Brendan eich, which
you’re not going to get a lot of

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sympathy with last name.
Like, I’m just thinking

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nautique.
Yeah, right now, I’m already

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thinking Nazi shit, he was
appointed as the new CEO of

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Mozilla.
He’s really lucky.

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He’s like his father and his
grandfather didn’t share the

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same name.
I the Third.

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They’re like yeah.
Oh boy.

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Oh man.
That would have been on Brendan

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eich.
The third look like, could you

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imagine?
Wow, honestly, at that point, I

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would sort of sympathize with
him for that name like, ooh,

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boy, that’s a rough name to
have.

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Yeah, it’s a rough name to have,
especially if you want to be in

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media at all.
Like, hey, literally have third

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Ike in there who boy?
No, yeah, I want to work with

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that.
Yeah, you crossed the, the

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Jewish mob.
Afiya at Birth.

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00:24:23,100 –> 00:24:24,600
Oh boy.
Oh God.

436
00:24:24,600 –> 00:24:27,500
And we definitely know that
they, that’s real.

437
00:24:27,500 –> 00:24:31,400
That’s real, that’s one.
And that’s, you know, I can say

438
00:24:31,400 –> 00:24:33,700
is a gay person that the gay
Mafia doesn’t exist.

439
00:24:33,700 –> 00:24:37,100
But I could say is a Jewish
person that the Jewish one for

440
00:24:37,100 –> 00:24:40,400
sure.
Like we for sure run.

441
00:24:40,500 –> 00:24:44,300
Just the way that we ran the
women’s clothing industry in

442
00:24:44,300 –> 00:24:49,200
like the 1950s.
Now we all, we all ran the

443
00:24:49,200 –> 00:24:52,400
Garmin and we ran the Garment
district, and the Jew Jewelry

444
00:24:52,400 –> 00:24:54,500
district.
Who took it over from you?

445
00:24:54,800 –> 00:24:58,300
I can’t I just I know there’s
still a hell a lot of Jewish

446
00:24:58,300 –> 00:25:01,700
Jewelers in Manhattan.
That’s like for sure.

447
00:25:01,800 –> 00:25:04,300
Yeah, you still, you still hear
that in like Whispers And like

448
00:25:04,300 –> 00:25:06,900
Italian like family
get-togethers little bit like oh

449
00:25:06,900 –> 00:25:09,100
you’re gonna get an engagement
ring, go take it to the Jews in

450
00:25:09,100 –> 00:25:11,500
Manhattan go take it to the
juice.

451
00:25:11,500 –> 00:25:17,000
They’ll give you good price.
Yeah so so I like the third the

452
00:25:17,000 –> 00:25:21,000
third Ike He got fired almost
there.

453
00:25:21,000 –> 00:25:22,700
Now.
His name is the yeah he’s the

454
00:25:22,700 –> 00:25:25,500
third Ike.
Now I’m almost immediately after

455
00:25:25,500 –> 00:25:29,400
getting that job he got fired
after it was revealed that he

456
00:25:29,400 –> 00:25:34,700
donated a thousand dollars to
support Proposition 8 which was

457
00:25:34,900 –> 00:25:39,500
the young the bill that
overturned legalizing same-sex

458
00:25:39,500 –> 00:25:43,200
marriage in the state of
California, which I point that

459
00:25:43,200 –> 00:25:44,700
out all the time when people
bring up.

460
00:25:44,700 –> 00:25:46,800
How liberal California?
Yeah.

461
00:25:46,900 –> 00:25:50,400
Oh boy, Iowans.
Ever overturn, same-sex marriage

462
00:25:50,400 –> 00:25:52,200
and they did it before
California.

463
00:25:52,200 –> 00:25:57,400
I remember I went to a lot of
equal marriage like rallies in

464
00:25:57,400 –> 00:25:59,500
New York.
When I was a teenager and I

465
00:25:59,500 –> 00:26:04,200
remember like a really big point
of discussion was like how can

466
00:26:04,200 –> 00:26:10,700
we live in this in New York City
where Iowa has done it before

467
00:26:10,700 –> 00:26:13,400
us?
Yeah that was a huge part of the

468
00:26:13,400 –> 00:26:17,100
conversation where you just like
this fucking and it was kind of

469
00:26:17,100 –> 00:26:20,300
elitist to be to be That’s
because they’re like this Podunk

470
00:26:20,300 –> 00:26:23,400
motherfucking State and well,
the for us.

471
00:26:23,400 –> 00:26:25,600
It’s like, yeah, because there’s
a lot of fucking enlightened

472
00:26:25,600 –> 00:26:29,600
college students there.
That’s the thing, it’s that, but

473
00:26:29,600 –> 00:26:33,000
it’s also in this, I don’t know
if I also know a lot of people

474
00:26:33,000 –> 00:26:36,300
that are, I know I have a couple
of like friends like locals of

475
00:26:36,300 –> 00:26:39,200
Iowa that are probably some of
the most Progressive people I’ve

476
00:26:39,200 –> 00:26:40,300
ever known.
Oh, for sure.

477
00:26:40,300 –> 00:26:42,100
Yeah, there’s definitely that
because the very ring.

478
00:26:42,100 –> 00:26:44,200
There’s like three colleges.
I feel like it’s a very also,

479
00:26:44,200 –> 00:26:47,100
like, Live and Let Live stay.
Yeah, like it’s very like, who

480
00:26:47,100 –> 00:26:48,400
cares?
It’s very, whoo.

481
00:26:48,500 –> 00:26:49,800
Who cares?
I grew up in Peoria.

482
00:26:49,800 –> 00:26:50,600
Illinois.
All right.

483
00:26:50,600 –> 00:26:53,400
Next to okay.
But there’s also and I don’t

484
00:26:53,400 –> 00:26:56,400
know if people are still calling
this a conspiracy or just

485
00:26:56,400 –> 00:27:01,100
acknowledging that it happened.
But a lot of why Proposition 8

486
00:27:01,100 –> 00:27:06,000
passed in California and why it
wouldn’t have passed somewhere.

487
00:27:06,000 –> 00:27:10,500
Like, Iowa is there are not
enough black people in Iowa.

488
00:27:10,800 –> 00:27:16,800
What happened in California when
Proposition 8 passed is Mormons

489
00:27:17,200 –> 00:27:20,500
started targeting.
Black voters who we knew were

490
00:27:20,500 –> 00:27:23,500
going to come out because Obama
was running in his first

491
00:27:23,500 –> 00:27:28,500
election and they came out and
voted for Obama in California

492
00:27:28,700 –> 00:27:33,200
but also a lot of black people
voted for Proposition 8 because

493
00:27:33,200 –> 00:27:37,100
there is a lot of homophobia in
the black community.

494
00:27:37,100 –> 00:27:41,600
Oh for sure.
And it’s an uncomfortable thing

495
00:27:41,600 –> 00:27:44,600
to like I tried to put that in a
Playboy article and they were

496
00:27:44,600 –> 00:27:45,900
like no, that’s never been
proven.

497
00:27:45,900 –> 00:27:51,300
It’s like yeah it kind of has
Yeah, yeah, I mean, it’s like,

498
00:27:51,300 –> 00:27:56,700
statistically, they like well,
also, not even just black people

499
00:27:56,700 –> 00:27:59,300
would, like, like group people
of color in general.

500
00:27:59,300 –> 00:28:01,500
They’re also tends to be.
Yeah, I can X.

501
00:28:01,500 –> 00:28:05,400
That extra level of, oh, my God,
you’re already marginalized

502
00:28:05,400 –> 00:28:08,200
once, and like, you’re going to
be marginalized again, right?

503
00:28:08,200 –> 00:28:12,700
Like, so, there’s always that
point of contention, like, I

504
00:28:13,000 –> 00:28:16,400
noticed, you know, in any of my
friends that are any kind of

505
00:28:16,400 –> 00:28:19,900
person of color, they vote.
They’re coming out stories of

506
00:28:19,900 –> 00:28:22,500
always tended, to be a little
bit more rough than.

507
00:28:22,800 –> 00:28:24,700
Yeah.
I mean, I’m having white people

508
00:28:24,700 –> 00:28:28,100
that I’ve spoken to and not, not
to say that there haven’t been

509
00:28:28,400 –> 00:28:32,000
many tragic fucking coming out.
Stories of white people, to

510
00:28:32,000 –> 00:28:35,900
their families, of course.
But like it’s it and and a

511
00:28:35,900 –> 00:28:38,900
community.
If like, say, like for, I mean,

512
00:28:38,900 –> 00:28:42,600
and I’m not great, but say, if
my family and they were really

513
00:28:42,600 –> 00:28:45,300
cool for what it was worth when
I came out, but like, had they

514
00:28:45,300 –> 00:28:47,000
kind of ditch me or abandoned
me.

515
00:28:47,100 –> 00:28:51,900
Yeah, there was still A huge
community of white gay people

516
00:28:51,900 –> 00:28:54,400
that would have embraced me and
been like, well, we’re your

517
00:28:54,400 –> 00:28:57,100
family now.
Yeah, where’s like that?

518
00:28:57,100 –> 00:29:01,400
Community gets even smaller when
you bring it to like the black a

519
00:29:01,400 –> 00:29:04,300
community, which is super my
mean.

520
00:29:04,400 –> 00:29:08,500
Again, there’s so much racism in
the gay community on in general.

521
00:29:08,500 –> 00:29:11,100
It’s, yeah, that’s a whole
other.

522
00:29:11,200 –> 00:29:15,800
It’s almost as if it’s your just
like people looking for like the

523
00:29:15,800 –> 00:29:19,800
rest of the world where life is
just as if hey, Crazy shyster

524
00:29:19,800 –> 00:29:22,600
equally as terrible as straight
white people.

525
00:29:22,900 –> 00:29:26,700
Most of the time, you know?
It’s it’s yeah.

526
00:29:26,700 –> 00:29:29,500
And what’s?
And we’re getting a little off

527
00:29:29,500 –> 00:29:32,100
track and I feel like this is,
yeah, it’s a thing.

528
00:29:32,100 –> 00:29:35,600
Trump is counting on is that
he’s counting on infighting and

529
00:29:35,600 –> 00:29:38,200
it’s worry.
Yeah, and it’s definitely

530
00:29:38,200 –> 00:29:40,300
working.
Oh, depressing.

531
00:29:40,600 –> 00:29:46,700
So this I feel like is a
different sort of example, where

532
00:29:46,900 –> 00:29:50,300
this feels like Exactly what
should happen.

533
00:29:50,300 –> 00:29:53,400
Yeah.
Like if you were working with

534
00:29:53,400 –> 00:29:58,200
this guy and you’re a gay
person, maybe you’re married now

535
00:29:58,500 –> 00:30:04,000
and you find out that your new
boss, donated money to a cause

536
00:30:04,000 –> 00:30:07,400
meant to keep you from getting
married because he thinks you

537
00:30:07,400 –> 00:30:10,200
shouldn’t have that, right?
Because you’re not as much of a

538
00:30:10,200 –> 00:30:13,900
person as everyone else.
Why the fuck wouldn’t people

539
00:30:13,900 –> 00:30:16,300
band together and be like fuck?
No, we don’t want to work with

540
00:30:16,300 –> 00:30:19,400
that guy, fuck that.
And I feel I am sure a lot of

541
00:30:19,400 –> 00:30:22,400
this didn’t come from a gay
Mafia, probably just came from

542
00:30:22,400 –> 00:30:27,400
gay employees at Mozilla who are
like, what the fuck, like, you

543
00:30:27,400 –> 00:30:29,400
have to fucking fire that guy
again.

544
00:30:29,400 –> 00:30:32,300
It’s also like that foreseeable
thing of like, okay?

545
00:30:32,300 –> 00:30:36,800
So if he has these views about
gay people, like, who’s to say

546
00:30:36,800 –> 00:30:39,400
like that, this doesn’t run
deeper and like, right if it

547
00:30:39,400 –> 00:30:41,400
comes out and like not only is
he a homophobe?

548
00:30:41,400 –> 00:30:42,700
But what if it turns out in 5
years?

549
00:30:42,700 –> 00:30:45,800
He’s a fucking raging racist.
Like yeah, what if it turns out

550
00:30:45,800 –> 00:30:47,900
in 5 years?
He hates all Korean people.

551
00:30:47,900 –> 00:30:50,000
You know what I mean?
Meet like it’s it’s like the

552
00:30:50,000 –> 00:30:56,000
yeah if anybody were to do the
exact same thing to any anti

553
00:30:56,400 –> 00:31:01,400
group of anybody like they would
immediately be like fine.

554
00:31:01,600 –> 00:31:04,400
So why should it against gay
people?

555
00:31:04,400 –> 00:31:04,900
Yeah.
Why?

556
00:31:04,900 –> 00:31:07,300
Why shouldn’t knock it equal
fucking response.

557
00:31:07,400 –> 00:31:10,100
Yeah.
Like if he had donated that

558
00:31:10,100 –> 00:31:13,400
thousand dollars to the KKK was
just about about you don’t have

559
00:31:13,400 –> 00:31:16,600
to keep going back to the most
obvious example would be fired

560
00:31:16,600 –> 00:31:19,100
fucking immediately.
You wanted to About Westboro

561
00:31:19,100 –> 00:31:20,600
Baptist Church.
Yeah there you go.

562
00:31:20,700 –> 00:31:23,600
Yeah there’s one they would be
like why wasn’t he fired?

563
00:31:23,600 –> 00:31:26,900
Oh that’s a that’s super guy.
That’s super like anti guy.

564
00:31:26,900 –> 00:31:28,300
Oh yeah.
Yeah I was on sale.

565
00:31:28,300 –> 00:31:30,000
Wait that’s not an apt
comparison.

566
00:31:30,700 –> 00:31:35,000
Trying to find equal hatred for
something other than Yeah.

567
00:31:35,100 –> 00:31:38,200
Well yeah but that I feel like
the Westboro Baptist Church is

568
00:31:38,200 –> 00:31:40,700
just hate real.
They’re just hatred in general.

569
00:31:40,700 –> 00:31:42,200
Yeah.
I feel like what that, that’s a

570
00:31:42,200 –> 00:31:46,900
really that is the different
case, but yeah, I don’t.

571
00:31:46,900 –> 00:31:51,300
So that’s why I don’t get Get
let’s listen to Bill Maher’s

572
00:31:51,400 –> 00:31:54,800
response here which I feel like
we do.

573
00:31:54,800 –> 00:31:56,500
We have to actually listen to
him.

574
00:31:56,700 –> 00:31:58,300
Yeah.
We’re going to do it.

575
00:31:58,500 –> 00:32:03,200
Oh God damn it only 42 minutes
is that Nas?

576
00:32:03,400 –> 00:32:05,400
What do you think of the Mozilla
CEO?

577
00:32:05,400 –> 00:32:09,000
Having to step down over his
donation to Pro proposition?

578
00:32:09,000 –> 00:32:11,900
Eight group?
Yeah, the Mozilla which I’m

579
00:32:11,900 –> 00:32:15,100
wearing right now, by the way, I
didn’t know what was Ella was.

580
00:32:15,100 –> 00:32:18,300
I saw it on my computer but it’s
Firefox.

581
00:32:20,900 –> 00:32:23,500
So this guy apparently, I’m too
old to know how the internet

582
00:32:23,500 –> 00:32:25,700
works.
No, you’re not and he had to

583
00:32:25,700 –> 00:32:27,800
step down.
What do you think of that?

584
00:32:27,800 –> 00:32:30,700
The question is because he gave
a thousand dollars, eight years

585
00:32:30,700 –> 00:32:33,700
ago, and it’s come back to haunt
him when he gave it, when,

586
00:32:33,700 –> 00:32:36,300
President Obama still was
against gay marriage.

587
00:32:36,300 –> 00:32:38,400
So I don’t think it’s very fair,
good point.

588
00:32:39,100 –> 00:32:41,700
Also, I think there is a game
off of you.

589
00:32:43,500 –> 00:32:46,200
I think if you cross them, you
do get wet.

590
00:32:46,300 –> 00:32:52,600
I really That is not okay.
What is he joking?

591
00:32:53,200 –> 00:32:54,400
Yeah.
What will it take?

592
00:32:55,000 –> 00:32:57,300
And he turns to knobs and was
like, right?

593
00:32:57,300 –> 00:33:01,300
Like is he joking?
They’re fucking idiot.

594
00:33:01,300 –> 00:33:04,000
Yeah, we talked about this a
little bit I ever watch Vilma.

595
00:33:04,000 –> 00:33:09,000
I haven’t watched like a single
second or of Bill Maher in 23

596
00:33:09,000 –> 00:33:10,200
years.
Yeah.

597
00:33:10,200 –> 00:33:12,400
And oh my god.
Did that just trigger the fuck

598
00:33:12,400 –> 00:33:15,200
out of me?
Because just like his voice is

599
00:33:15,200 –> 00:33:20,900
so grating on my soul now.
Like and I If you would ask 16

600
00:33:20,900 –> 00:33:23,800
you were 17 year-old Joe like
10, 11 years ago.

601
00:33:24,000 –> 00:33:26,500
Oh my god.
When you were in your late 20s,

602
00:33:26,800 –> 00:33:31,200
you’re the sound of Bill Maher.
He’s gonna fill you with rage.

603
00:33:31,200 –> 00:33:33,600
I mean, I know he’s the voice of
the people.

604
00:33:36,800 –> 00:33:40,200
Oh my God, fucking idiot.
Oh God.

605
00:33:40,500 –> 00:33:43,000
I hate him.
Just as much as I hate 17.

606
00:33:43,000 –> 00:33:45,200
Year old.
Me being super happened to him.

607
00:33:46,300 –> 00:33:50,700
Yeah, and I can’t really tell
there if He’s just, I mean, he’s

608
00:33:50,700 –> 00:33:53,000
joking, obviously, but is he
joking?

609
00:33:53,000 –> 00:33:56,900
It’s not meant that he’s not
like it seem like he meant what

610
00:33:56,900 –> 00:34:00,800
he was saying, right?
Like the only reason he laughed

611
00:34:00,800 –> 00:34:03,200
it off as because the audience
laughed.

612
00:34:03,300 –> 00:34:05,000
Yeah.
He was saying in like under his

613
00:34:05,000 –> 00:34:06,000
breath.
Like, you know what?

614
00:34:06,000 –> 00:34:09,199
I think that this does exist
like maybe it’s an unpopular

615
00:34:09,199 –> 00:34:14,100
opinion, but I think this exists
and be were like ha, ha ha Phil,

616
00:34:14,100 –> 00:34:18,199
and he’s like, yeah, I got some
joking and that’s fuck him.

617
00:34:18,400 –> 00:34:22,199
That’s why this just feels like
an extension of all the shit

618
00:34:22,199 –> 00:34:27,600
that happened from the 50s
through the 90s, where it’s, if

619
00:34:27,600 –> 00:34:30,199
the gay Mafia was really,
wouldn’t have a fucking TV show

620
00:34:30,199 –> 00:34:33,000
anymore.
Yeah, no shit.

621
00:34:33,000 –> 00:34:35,800
Seriously.
Yeah, that’s a, that’s an

622
00:34:35,800 –> 00:34:40,699
excellent point.
And it’s like, it’s just people

623
00:34:40,699 –> 00:34:45,400
wanting to know why they can’t
just openly hate gay people

624
00:34:45,400 –> 00:34:48,500
anymore.
Like, why isn’t that still Well,

625
00:34:48,500 –> 00:34:52,600
okay, and I feel like there are
when it comes to that issue.

626
00:34:52,600 –> 00:34:56,800
Especially there are a lot of
liberal-leaning people who are

627
00:34:56,800 –> 00:35:01,700
still kind of struggling with
that and still like what why

628
00:35:01,700 –> 00:35:04,500
can’t we that word was just a
joke when we were kids.

629
00:35:04,500 –> 00:35:05,900
Why can’t we just keep saying
it?

630
00:35:05,900 –> 00:35:08,400
Yeah, and it’s like steaks
changed, man.

631
00:35:08,800 –> 00:35:12,900
Like Society changes people,
frown on different things.

632
00:35:12,900 –> 00:35:17,500
Thing, I am not going to sit
here and tell you, you can’t say

633
00:35:17,500 –> 00:35:20,400
the word when you are Private
buyers, you know what I mean?

634
00:35:20,700 –> 00:35:22,600
You know what I mean?
Like, if you want to say it the

635
00:35:22,600 –> 00:35:26,400
same way the same time, I say it
when I’m playing fucking

636
00:35:26,600 –> 00:35:28,500
PlayStation.
When I’m playing OverWatch.

637
00:35:28,600 –> 00:35:31,400
And somebody annoys me and I
don’t say it on Mike, I say it

638
00:35:31,400 –> 00:35:34,500
to myself a tackle.
Yeah, let’s go.

639
00:35:34,800 –> 00:35:38,200
That’s hey, no one’s hearing me.
Yeah, no one’s hearing me.

640
00:35:38,300 –> 00:35:41,400
It’s like No One’s Gonna care is
when you start saying it out

641
00:35:41,400 –> 00:35:44,400
loud, all over the fucking
place, like an ass haul people

642
00:35:44,400 –> 00:35:48,200
gonna be like hey maybe you
shouldn’t say that in public.

643
00:35:48,300 –> 00:35:53,700
Alec I do, I do a bit on stage
about smoking and racism but

644
00:35:53,700 –> 00:35:56,500
it’s kind of the same thing
where it’s sort of like smoking.

645
00:35:56,500 –> 00:35:59,900
Yeah, we all you used to be able
to smoke any anywhere.

646
00:35:59,900 –> 00:36:02,400
Yeah, smoke at the doctor’s
office.

647
00:36:02,500 –> 00:36:05,100
I love this but eventually we
were like, this is bad.

648
00:36:05,100 –> 00:36:08,100
What we’re doing is bad, and we
should stop in most of us

649
00:36:08,100 –> 00:36:10,100
stopped.
But some people were like, hey

650
00:36:10,100 –> 00:36:11,700
man, what about my personal
freedom?

651
00:36:11,900 –> 00:36:15,000
And we were like, fine.
You can still do it, but do it

652
00:36:15,100 –> 00:36:17,300
at home.
But yeah, do it, where it

653
00:36:17,300 –> 00:36:20,800
doesn’t impact?
Other people like you still, you

654
00:36:20,800 –> 00:36:23,900
hang all the fucking Nazi
posters on your wall you want

655
00:36:23,900 –> 00:36:28,200
just take it to the streets to
flip that coin around and say

656
00:36:28,200 –> 00:36:32,600
like well then why can’t
homosexual people keep that

657
00:36:32,600 –> 00:36:36,600
right style in private in their
home you know it’s there because

658
00:36:36,600 –> 00:36:38,800
to them it’s still a goddamn
Choice.

659
00:36:38,900 –> 00:36:41,500
Yeah, no matter how many times
Lady Gaga says it.

660
00:36:41,500 –> 00:36:45,500
They still think it’s a choice.
Yes, exactly.

661
00:36:45,500 –> 00:36:48,200
So therefore we’re choosing to
live this lifestyle.

662
00:36:48,300 –> 00:36:52,500
Dial in their face, where it’s
like, no, we’re just living and

663
00:36:52,500 –> 00:36:55,500
fucking.
And the like, was at least with

664
00:36:55,500 –> 00:37:00,300
the smoking argument, for sure
smoking around, people can

665
00:37:00,400 –> 00:37:03,300
impact them.
Like, if a person has asthma,

666
00:37:03,300 –> 00:37:07,100
there’s all sorts of reasons, it
can physically a would be all

667
00:37:07,100 –> 00:37:12,500
sorts of reasons why you should
want to segregate smokers from

668
00:37:12,500 –> 00:37:16,100
most of society, right?
And I’m sorry but that you can

669
00:37:16,100 –> 00:37:17,800
make the same argument for
racists.

670
00:37:18,400 –> 00:37:21,800
And fucking homophobe.
Yeah like heck and to be honest

671
00:37:21,800 –> 00:37:24,000
will throw sexism in there as
well, let’s start of that.

672
00:37:24,000 –> 00:37:25,900
Yeah let’s throw any kind of
ism.

673
00:37:25,900 –> 00:37:28,200
Yeah.
Like if it’s impacting other

674
00:37:28,200 –> 00:37:32,000
people’s quality of life, you
need to keep that shit where it

675
00:37:32,000 –> 00:37:37,000
can only impact yours like
fucking in the either that or

676
00:37:37,000 –> 00:37:39,900
take it to a park man.
Get a license taken to a park,

677
00:37:40,500 –> 00:37:43,000
something like that.
But keep that shit out of our

678
00:37:43,000 –> 00:37:44,200
restaurants.
Yeah.

679
00:37:44,200 –> 00:37:46,900
And our fucking buses and our
Subway’s.

680
00:37:47,200 –> 00:37:49,900
That’s all.
But if you got a swastika tattoo

681
00:37:49,900 –> 00:37:51,700
on your head, fantastic wear a
hat.

682
00:37:51,700 –> 00:37:52,800
Yeah.
Yeah.

683
00:37:53,000 –> 00:37:54,500
Wear a hat.
I don’t want to fucking see

684
00:37:54,500 –> 00:37:57,300
that.
Yeah, that’s fucked up because

685
00:37:57,300 –> 00:38:00,600
Nazis fought like Nazism hurts
people.

686
00:38:00,900 –> 00:38:02,800
What the fuck is gay?
People?

687
00:38:02,800 –> 00:38:06,500
Existing hurting like it’s not
their gradual psyche.

688
00:38:06,500 –> 00:38:09,600
Yeah, yeah, fragile snowflakes.
Psyche, is Adam.

689
00:38:10,100 –> 00:38:12,500
Yeah, I mean that’s in that like
that.

690
00:38:12,600 –> 00:38:16,800
What else could it be?
Like, it’s just it’s fucking

691
00:38:16,800 –> 00:38:17,900
frustrating.
Yeah.

692
00:38:18,300 –> 00:38:21,200
But the gay Mafia exist.
So it exists.

693
00:38:21,300 –> 00:38:23,600
Yeah.
And so Bill Maher.

694
00:38:23,600 –> 00:38:26,500
Definitely think.
So, you will get wet there it.

695
00:38:26,500 –> 00:38:31,400
Get it waxed like a hand job,
fucking idiot.

696
00:38:31,400 –> 00:38:35,500
So he seems to believe that a
gay Mafia exists.

697
00:38:35,800 –> 00:38:40,000
I think this Adam Carolla
example is really interesting.

698
00:38:40,200 –> 00:38:43,900
Mmm, because this is a really
interesting example.

699
00:38:44,300 –> 00:38:48,100
The particle were reading this
fromm’s on the rap.

700
00:38:48,300 –> 00:38:55,600
And it the rap.com w r AP.
And the headline says, Adam

701
00:38:55,600 –> 00:38:59,400
Carolla on gay Mafia.
It runs Hollywood and makes

702
00:38:59,400 –> 00:39:02,600
comedians lives suck which I
don’t know.

703
00:39:02,600 –> 00:39:05,800
I feel like I’ve improved the
life of all of my fellow Comics.

704
00:39:06,000 –> 00:39:07,400
He’s least that’s what they tell
me.

705
00:39:07,700 –> 00:39:11,700
Yeah, I don’t know what he said
in particular.

706
00:39:11,700 –> 00:39:16,200
Oh, he made a joke about Chaz
Bono and in his point is what

707
00:39:16,200 –> 00:39:21,900
are we as a society if we Make
jokes about Chaz Bono and how

708
00:39:21,900 –> 00:39:29,800
Chaz Bono looks again.
That’s so we can.

709
00:39:30,100 –> 00:39:34,300
Yeah.
And the like this is, this is

710
00:39:34,300 –> 00:39:37,600
always like that this is that
moral gray area with it all.

711
00:39:37,600 –> 00:39:42,700
Like if it’s good, if it’s a
good joke, a good joke, right?

712
00:39:42,700 –> 00:39:45,800
No one’s gonna fucking care.
Like how many like this is

713
00:39:45,800 –> 00:39:49,200
really poignant for right now
because right now, Now, there’s

714
00:39:49,200 –> 00:39:52,200
all of these stories about
comedian and rust battler,

715
00:39:52,200 –> 00:39:55,300
Robin, Tran that are going
around about like see and had

716
00:39:55,300 –> 00:39:58,700
this is how you appropriately
make joke.

717
00:39:58,700 –> 00:40:01,600
Yeah, about transgender people
and this, she’s like this is how

718
00:40:01,600 –> 00:40:04,800
you do it, right?
This is how you get it done and

719
00:40:04,800 –> 00:40:07,700
her special just came out to.
And like there’s a lot of, you

720
00:40:07,700 –> 00:40:10,100
know, jokes about being a trans
woman in there.

721
00:40:10,100 –> 00:40:12,500
And it’s like this is how you
talk about it because she Rose

722
00:40:12,500 –> 00:40:15,400
battled Alex Duong, who
obviously if you’re going to

723
00:40:15,408 –> 00:40:17,800
roast battle like it’s you go
for the low blow.

724
00:40:17,800 –> 00:40:21,500
That’s the Point of Ed Wright.
Obviously he took low blows at

725
00:40:21,500 –> 00:40:26,700
Robins appearance and the Senate
but like they were good jokes,

726
00:40:26,800 –> 00:40:30,300
write good jokes that she’s
like, yeah, that was good,

727
00:40:30,300 –> 00:40:32,900
that’s a good.
Yeah, well, I think there’s a

728
00:40:33,000 –> 00:40:37,900
difference between a joke about
a person’s appearance and like I

729
00:40:37,900 –> 00:40:41,200
can see how you can make a joke
about someone’s appearance and

730
00:40:41,200 –> 00:40:45,200
not make it about that.
Yeah, like and that’s kind of

731
00:40:45,200 –> 00:40:50,400
the point and I feel like people
Fall afoul of that and then it

732
00:40:50,400 –> 00:40:53,800
becomes this where oh there’s
this fucking gay Mafia that

733
00:40:53,800 –> 00:40:56,700
won’t let us say the things we
want to say.

734
00:40:56,900 –> 00:40:59,000
It’s like you said it like you.
Yeah.

735
00:40:59,000 –> 00:41:01,600
Adam Carolla said it and he
still got some podcast.

736
00:41:01,600 –> 00:41:03,400
Yeah.
Like what the fuck?

737
00:41:03,400 –> 00:41:07,800
What like what happened?
That was so bad in like people

738
00:41:08,000 –> 00:41:11,000
like there’s you’re allowed to
say things but there’s

739
00:41:11,000 –> 00:41:15,400
consequences for things, but
apparently Adam Carolla does

740
00:41:15,400 –> 00:41:20,600
believe there is a gay Mafia.
We learn in this article though,

741
00:41:20,700 –> 00:41:24,900
that it doesn’t necessarily
mean, he has a problem with gay

742
00:41:24,900 –> 00:41:30,000
people.
Mmm-hmm, I think he dies if I

743
00:41:30,008 –> 00:41:33,900
think, I think he kind of does,
I don’t have a problem with it.

744
00:41:33,900 –> 00:41:36,300
They’ve just turned into a mafia
and demanding.

745
00:41:36,300 –> 00:41:39,100
Everyone apologize for every
joke and retract every

746
00:41:39,100 –> 00:41:40,800
statement.
That’s not a.

747
00:41:40,800 –> 00:41:42,800
That’s not true.
No, it’s one.

748
00:41:42,800 –> 00:41:44,800
That’s just bottom line.
Not true.

749
00:41:45,500 –> 00:41:49,300
Yeah, because there are people
out there like I think Anthony

750
00:41:49,300 –> 00:41:54,200
Jeselnik is a good example,
example of someone who writes

751
00:41:54,600 –> 00:41:58,700
jokes, that if like, the
uninformed Observer would look

752
00:41:58,700 –> 00:42:00,600
at him and go.
Well, why is this guy not

753
00:42:00,600 –> 00:42:03,800
getting in trouble?
Because people who recognize

754
00:42:03,800 –> 00:42:08,300
comedy, recognize good comedy.
Like the say another, I feel

755
00:42:08,300 –> 00:42:11,400
like another kind of more.
Like, on the nose example, is

756
00:42:11,400 –> 00:42:13,700
like Jim Norton.
They’re like, yeah, somebody who

757
00:42:13,700 –> 00:42:17,900
makes, oh, a fella men who he
liked openly uses still uses the

758
00:42:17,900 –> 00:42:20,600
word.
Tranny to my knowledge, which I

759
00:42:20,600 –> 00:42:22,900
don’t know if he’s changed that
right stance.

760
00:42:22,900 –> 00:42:28,900
But like no one really seems to
go after him and I’m right, I’m

761
00:42:28,900 –> 00:42:31,100
not saying anybody should.
I’m not saying they were shut.

762
00:42:31,200 –> 00:42:34,800
He’s fucking funny and he knows
how to, yeah, make a right a

763
00:42:34,800 –> 00:42:37,700
good because always at the end
of it, he’s one of those people

764
00:42:37,700 –> 00:42:40,100
where he’s the bad guy at the
end of the day, right?

765
00:42:40,100 –> 00:42:42,200
Which is and that’s kind of
Anthony Jeselnik.

766
00:42:42,200 –> 00:42:43,500
Yeah.
Yeah, he knows.

767
00:42:43,500 –> 00:42:44,800
He’s a Monster.
Yeah.

768
00:42:44,800 –> 00:42:46,700
And he smiles his way through
it.

769
00:42:46,700 –> 00:42:48,100
Yeah.
And that’s the thing, like, if

770
00:42:48,200 –> 00:42:52,400
If I hate that notion that when
someone says something that

771
00:42:52,400 –> 00:42:54,300
blows up on the Internet, it’s
all of a sudden.

772
00:42:54,300 –> 00:42:59,000
Now, the PC police, the gay
Mafia will say, I kind of

773
00:42:59,100 –> 00:43:05,400
understand the idea that not so
much the gay community, but the

774
00:43:05,400 –> 00:43:08,500
quote-unquote call out community
in general.

775
00:43:08,600 –> 00:43:13,200
Can tend to not especially when
it comes to comedians.

776
00:43:13,200 –> 00:43:16,800
It’s like first of all I stand
with their should never

777
00:43:16,800 –> 00:43:19,000
absolutely anybody should be
able to Or anything.

778
00:43:19,000 –> 00:43:21,000
That’s at an open mic ever
happy.

779
00:43:21,000 –> 00:43:22,000
Yeah.
Ever.

780
00:43:22,100 –> 00:43:24,700
You know how many of my good
friends I’ve heard say the most

781
00:43:24,700 –> 00:43:28,800
monstrous things, do, you know
how many monstrous things I’ve

782
00:43:28,800 –> 00:43:31,500
said at an open mic thing?
Like, oh this might be funny.

783
00:43:31,600 –> 00:43:33,700
No, it ya then.
Oh boy.

784
00:43:33,700 –> 00:43:36,300
That’s problematic.
And I can’t say that.

785
00:43:36,500 –> 00:43:39,700
Yeah, if that had got like if
some of I think if you’re a

786
00:43:39,800 –> 00:43:44,300
about gave you some of my own
gay jokes, got out there into

787
00:43:44,300 –> 00:43:47,000
the world, like when they’re
just newborns in my hands and

788
00:43:47,000 –> 00:43:49,500
I’m just trying to tiptoe my way
around it.

789
00:43:49,600 –> 00:43:52,100
I would be the gay Mafia would
have my head.

790
00:43:52,900 –> 00:43:54,400
Yeah.
Yeah.

791
00:43:54,400 –> 00:43:57,100
The thing if you’re a fan and
you go to like if you’re just an

792
00:43:57,100 –> 00:44:00,300
audience member at an open mic
like you gotta understand,

793
00:44:00,300 –> 00:44:03,600
you’re like watching the McRibs,
get made, you’re going to see

794
00:44:03,600 –> 00:44:07,000
some unfortunate still don’t
take any pictures without

795
00:44:07,000 –> 00:44:10,100
anybody’s consent, if you’re at
an open mic or even a comedy

796
00:44:10,100 –> 00:44:12,700
show for that matter, stop
taking pictures of people.

797
00:44:12,700 –> 00:44:15,700
And for God’s sake, stop taking
videos of people unless it’s

798
00:44:15,700 –> 00:44:17,800
Hannibal Buress.
Telling you that Cosby raped, a

799
00:44:17,800 –> 00:44:22,500
bunch of There.
But but like, don’t put it on

800
00:44:22,500 –> 00:44:24,200
your Snapchats.
Don’t ya?

801
00:44:24,200 –> 00:44:26,100
Instagram stories?
You think it’s temporary?

802
00:44:26,100 –> 00:44:28,400
It’s not people are holding on
to this shit.

803
00:44:28,500 –> 00:44:29,500
Yeah.
Come on.

804
00:44:29,800 –> 00:44:32,100
Let us work out our shit.
You want us to have the good

805
00:44:32,100 –> 00:44:35,500
like all just every joke.
No joke is born.

806
00:44:35,500 –> 00:44:39,000
Perfect.
Know someone very imperfect

807
00:44:39,300 –> 00:44:41,600
actually.
Yeah yeah.

808
00:44:41,600 –> 00:44:46,100
So so yeah I can’t tell it does.
I mean I guess it does seem like

809
00:44:46,600 –> 00:44:48,800
Adam Carolla does have some
Issues.

810
00:44:49,900 –> 00:44:54,400
He’s no, he’s just of the era of
straight white male comic that

811
00:44:54,400 –> 00:44:57,900
used to be able to get away with
whatever they wanted to say,

812
00:44:58,000 –> 00:44:59,800
could you know, whatever they
wanted.

813
00:44:59,800 –> 00:45:04,000
Yeah, you know, and he’s you
know he I put him in the same

814
00:45:04,000 –> 00:45:07,200
category as like Jerry Seinfeld.
This like he’s an old white man

815
00:45:07,200 –> 00:45:09,400
who’s pissed.
He can’t say all the things he

816
00:45:09,400 –> 00:45:12,800
wanted to say and they they’re
pissed because they have to

817
00:45:12,800 –> 00:45:15,000
write new jokes.
Yeah, yeah.

818
00:45:15,000 –> 00:45:17,500
And I don’t find new new
grounded.

819
00:45:17,500 –> 00:45:20,700
Tread Which is like, oh poor
fucking baby.

820
00:45:20,700 –> 00:45:22,600
I know that.
Yeah, that’s what bothers me.

821
00:45:22,600 –> 00:45:27,000
It’s like, every things change
over the years and you,

822
00:45:27,000 –> 00:45:32,000
sometimes you have to change
with uh, and I really hate when

823
00:45:32,300 –> 00:45:36,400
you see people on the left make
that argument as if that’s not

824
00:45:36,600 –> 00:45:40,200
like that’s what a lot of the
shit on the right is rooted, in

825
00:45:40,500 –> 00:45:45,100
is this sense of traditionalism
and well things have always been

826
00:45:45,100 –> 00:45:47,200
this way.
Why can’t they always be that

827
00:45:47,200 –> 00:45:51,600
way if If you want, if you make
that argument your kind of

828
00:45:51,600 –> 00:45:53,700
backing up that argument on the
right, right?

829
00:45:53,800 –> 00:45:56,300
When they’re like, well why
can’t we still have separate

830
00:45:56,300 –> 00:45:58,000
water fountains and shit like
that?

831
00:45:58,000 –> 00:46:01,100
Like what’s what’s the fucking
problem like you would?

832
00:46:01,100 –> 00:46:04,000
That would explode heads if
someone came out with that

833
00:46:04,000 –> 00:46:07,400
suggestion, but we can still be
like, yeah, why can’t we make

834
00:46:07,400 –> 00:46:10,700
gay people fucking piss in the
parking lot or something and

835
00:46:10,707 –> 00:46:14,300
keep them away from the kids,
like shut the fuck up and just

836
00:46:14,700 –> 00:46:18,000
like die already or accept that
things change.

837
00:46:18,900 –> 00:46:21,900
Yeah, but there’s no gay Mafia.
No, there is none.

838
00:46:22,000 –> 00:46:25,200
This is, this is one of those
rare episodes that I went into

839
00:46:25,400 –> 00:46:27,500
like normally, I will get
through the notes and I’ll think

840
00:46:27,500 –> 00:46:31,300
about it and I’ll like, read it
out loud and like really take it

841
00:46:31,300 –> 00:46:34,800
in and be like, all right, maybe
Elvis did fake his death and

842
00:46:34,800 –> 00:46:37,300
flee to Argentina love to come
back and do one of those.

843
00:46:37,300 –> 00:46:40,900
I’d one of these that is like a
possible like, in actually

844
00:46:40,900 –> 00:46:42,100
possible.
Oh yeah.

845
00:46:42,200 –> 00:46:45,900
Oh, I would love to have my mind
blown the Elvis.

846
00:46:45,900 –> 00:46:48,000
One is one of my favorites.
I’ve done.

847
00:46:48,100 –> 00:46:50,600
An episode on it, but I gotta
listen to that.

848
00:46:50,600 –> 00:46:53,000
I definitely think Elvis fled to
Argentina.

849
00:46:53,100 –> 00:46:54,400
Wow.
That’s some FBI.

850
00:46:54,400 –> 00:46:56,900
Witness protection.
Should cool.

851
00:46:57,000 –> 00:47:00,600
It’s really the ideal ending to
his career, because he was so

852
00:47:00,600 –> 00:47:05,900
into law enforcement and Justice
and for him to go out on top and

853
00:47:05,900 –> 00:47:08,800
just working a police
investigation to bring down the

854
00:47:08,808 –> 00:47:11,700
people who stole four hundred
thousand dollars and an airplane

855
00:47:11,700 –> 00:47:13,600
from him.
Well, that’s great.

856
00:47:13,800 –> 00:47:16,200
Like that’s Elvis going out.
Exactly the way Elvis we’re

857
00:47:16,200 –> 00:47:19,000
going to go out and then he just
goes to And as bunch of drugs,

858
00:47:19,000 –> 00:47:21,100
the rest of his life.
Yeah, exactly.

859
00:47:21,100 –> 00:47:22,300
Yeah.
It’s pretty great.

860
00:47:23,600 –> 00:47:26,200
So yeah, the game that’s that’s
the gay Mafia.

861
00:47:26,200 –> 00:47:28,000
Yeah.
How long have we been recording?

862
00:47:28,800 –> 00:47:31,600
I feel like we’ve been going.
Oh yeah, we’ve been ranting this

863
00:47:31,600 –> 00:47:33,200
was longer than the last
episode.

864
00:47:33,200 –> 00:47:35,000
Wow.
We’ve been ranting and raving.

865
00:47:35,800 –> 00:47:38,000
Our should say I’ve been ranting
and raving.

866
00:47:38,100 –> 00:47:40,300
Yeah, I mean, we both ate those
weed brownies.

867
00:47:40,300 –> 00:47:41,700
Yeah.
Ho boy.

868
00:47:41,800 –> 00:47:43,300
Those are good.
Do we even do it?

869
00:47:43,300 –> 00:47:45,600
Do we have out to the magical
butter machine?

870
00:47:45,600 –> 00:47:46,900
Yeah, the magical butter
machine.

871
00:47:46,900 –> 00:47:49,900
They sent me one.
In exchange.

872
00:47:49,900 –> 00:47:54,200
I wanted it and I said, will you
let me have one if I talk about

873
00:47:54,200 –> 00:47:56,100
it on podcast and they said,
yes.

874
00:47:56,100 –> 00:47:59,800
And oh my God, I’m glad I asked
because it makes the best weed

875
00:47:59,800 –> 00:48:03,500
butter and it’s very easy and I
don’t get any money for telling

876
00:48:03,500 –> 00:48:07,300
you that, I just got a magical
butter machine and I got joke a

877
00:48:07,300 –> 00:48:09,000
high on a brownie.
Yeah, you did.

878
00:48:09,200 –> 00:48:10,300
What are you looking at, on the
nose?

879
00:48:10,300 –> 00:48:13,700
Trying to make sure that we got
through these notes but it’s all

880
00:48:14,100 –> 00:48:18,000
Corolla, you know, Vienna?
Well I’m an ally.

881
00:48:18,100 –> 00:48:21,600
Just this once like I have.
Yeah, friends.

882
00:48:21,600 –> 00:48:24,000
That’s essentially what he’s
saying is, I can’t be

883
00:48:24,000 –> 00:48:26,000
homophobic.
I have gay friends.

884
00:48:26,400 –> 00:48:29,500
Yeah.
In his quote, about reasons.

885
00:48:29,500 –> 00:48:35,300
Gays should marry his words one.
Their American to they pay taxes

886
00:48:35,300 –> 00:48:38,300
three through five.
So they can shut the fuck up.

887
00:48:38,300 –> 00:48:40,300
Yeah.
How dare weeds a man Ryan?

888
00:48:40,300 –> 00:48:43,300
It’s like that’s just feels like
another thing where he’s like,

889
00:48:43,300 –> 00:48:45,200
why do I have to see it?
Why do I have to say it?

890
00:48:45,400 –> 00:48:47,500
And it’s like, because it’s not
I don’t want to be lying on my

891
00:48:47,500 –> 00:48:49,800
deathbed, And realize gay
marriage and legalization of

892
00:48:49,800 –> 00:48:52,200
marijuana is all I discussed in
the last half of my life.

893
00:48:52,200 –> 00:48:55,800
Oh, I’m sorry.
Oh I’m sorry.

894
00:48:55,900 –> 00:48:59,100
Oh you mean that thing that
keeps on your fragile, white

895
00:48:59,100 –> 00:49:04,600
male lying.
There are so many people in

896
00:49:04,600 –> 00:49:10,900
prison over marijuana right now.
Fucking fuck, Bill Maher.

897
00:49:10,900 –> 00:49:13,400
Fuck out him Corolla fuck fuck
this.

898
00:49:14,500 –> 00:49:16,700
But we are pro gay Mafia in case
there is one.

899
00:49:16,700 –> 00:49:19,000
Yeah.
If there is one Hire me?

900
00:49:19,100 –> 00:49:21,900
Yeah.
And then you hire me?

901
00:49:22,000 –> 00:49:25,100
Yeah, if you’re an ally.
Yeah, make sure I want to chain

902
00:49:25,100 –> 00:49:32,200
migrate into the game.
All right, so that’s our

903
00:49:32,200 –> 00:49:35,300
episode.
What do we have to plug?

904
00:49:35,300 –> 00:49:38,000
This is a free episode.
So, just a reminder, you can get

905
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an entire episode about the
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a that we recorded last week on
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907
00:49:45,500 –> 00:49:48,100
episodes of this podcast that
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908
00:49:48,400 –> 00:49:53,000
And all our other podcast bonus
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909
00:49:53,000 –> 00:49:57,000
slash on pops and I think that’s
it for now, Joe, what do you

910
00:49:57,000 –> 00:49:58,300
got?
Oh my God, I’ll do.

911
00:49:58,400 –> 00:50:01,100
Do this is the free one.
I’ll do all the all the plugs

912
00:50:01,100 –> 00:50:06,000
here you can find me on social
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913
00:50:06,000 –> 00:50:08,400
the things.
I’m also hosting a brand new

914
00:50:08,400 –> 00:50:10,100
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915
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Okay work, it’s a huh?
Huh?

916
00:50:15,600 –> 00:50:19,400
Howard Dean scream.
Oh, she’s super loud, that’s

917
00:50:19,400 –> 00:50:20,600
good.
Yeah, my tears, I was just

918
00:50:20,600 –> 00:50:22,700
that’s good, that’s good.
The shit out of me.

919
00:50:22,700 –> 00:50:26,500
Oh my God.
Okay, let me who magical butter,

920
00:50:26,500 –> 00:50:30,400
machine yak-130, Butter machine.
Let And I mean, press rewind

921
00:50:30,500 –> 00:50:35,600
Munoz, and I’m hosting a brand
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922
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Network called, okay, work.
And it’s a recap show of

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924
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And yeah, episode start on
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follow that Instagram at, okay?
Work pod.

926
00:50:53,400 –> 00:50:55,900
And one more thing.
You’ve heard this plug before,

927
00:50:55,900 –> 00:50:59,000
if you’re a fan of on pops, but
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00:50:59,000 –> 00:51:00,800
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Every Thursday, 7:30 p.m. 7:30.
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933
00:51:14,700 –> 00:51:16,600
It’s fun.
Yes, yes.

934
00:51:17,000 –> 00:51:19,900
All right, let’s get the fuck
out of here.

935
00:51:19,900 –> 00:51:22,500
Let’s get out of here.
Show say goodbye, bye.

936
00:51:22,500 –> 00:51:23,600
Bye everybody.
We love you.

937
00:51:28,900 –> 00:51:29,200
People.