Conspiracy! The Show No, Joe Scarborough Didn’t Murder Anybody

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I went through the transparent,
you just woke up.

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Hey everybody, Welcome to
conspiracy the show.

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I’m Adam, Todd Brown.
I’m Laura Crawford.

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You are Laura Crawford.
How’s it going?

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Thank you.
It’s been kind of a tough week.

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We got some bad news and the
only comedy community and if you

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heard, I did one of my friend.
Good friends, Richard Bain

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committed suicide, which is very
awful return.

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I worked together a lot on farms
and doing other stuff in his

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brother with people.
I’ve spent the most time with

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over the last year so it’s big,
its Pricing and it’s very sad.

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He’s a big fixture in the
Portland and l.a. comedy

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community.
Want to check out his stuff is

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hilarious.
Yeah with us sadly it seems like

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there’s been an l.a. comedian
who’s committed suicide like

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once a year since I’ve been out
here and I can’t imagine any

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other job where I mean I’m sure
there are plenty of other jobs

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where soldier soldier.
Yeah, it’s just mental illness.

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Runs so rampant among comedians.
Not us though.

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No.
Yeah, and also, I think This is

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speculative but a lot of times
people I know at least two of

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the people I know is seems to be
related to drug and alcohol

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binges but that’s not important.
No it is.

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It is important.
And yeah it’s very sad and we’re

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all in quarantine.
So there’s a limited amount of

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shit you can do for this.
Yeah.

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But yeah.
If please reach out to people,

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you know, if you are having any
sort of self-harm thoughts,

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especially since we’re also
isolated good to know.

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And if you’re having thoughts
about whether Joe Scarborough

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murdered one of his aides in, In
one it up.

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Me and Laura.
How about that for a Segway?

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Huh, I know you’re like oh we’re
already energies already

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nosedive of us ones.
Well, this plane back up, Daddy.

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I’m gonna pull a today.
What is it a fucking?

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I’m gonna be Denzel Washington
in Flight, which is, movie is.

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All right, before I moved to LA
very scary, just flip this plane

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around.
Haribol, let’s move from tragedy

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to tragedy.
Let’s make a lateral move and

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talk about our most recent
thing.

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The president wanted to talk
About rather than Memorial Day

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or hundred thousand dead from
coronavirus is Joe Carrboro a

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murderer?
Just a murderer is Joe.

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Scarborough a murderer.
That’s the question.

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On everyone’s mind.
Just joking.

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Mostly Trump did psycho Joe In
Cold Blood bash, the skull of a

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skank in turn.
He was plowing on his desk in

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the Florida in 2001, while he
was in Washington.

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Where did your dick?
Is that big Fucking a woman in

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Florida and bash your head
against the desk and killing her

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now.
But that’s what we’re going to

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talk about today.
This recent conspiracy tweeted

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by one, the President Donald J.
Trump alleging that MSNBC host.

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Joe Scarborough is a murderer.
Yeah, he’s tweeted this four

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times in May alone.
He’s tweeted about this.

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He’s really adamant that this is
a cold case and an unsolved

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mystery, that needs to be looked
into by.

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That was the first person he
said should investigate it.

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And it’s like, what the fuck’s
Comcast going to do pal, the

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Comcast Belize.
They’re gonna charge you for

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your router and arrest you for
murder.

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I was gonna say make this
pointer later on, but I do love

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about Donald Trump tweets about
this is being both an unsolved

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mystery and a cold case just to
point out that he’s been

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watching a lot of CBS.
Yeah.

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I mean I’m not here to disparage
CBS.

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They do have some good shows but
he’s wrong.

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This is not a Cold Case at all.
Can we apply any luck?

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In order that’s an NBC show
Crawford.

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Pull it together.
Come on.

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Yeah.
So Donald Trump is been tweeting

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about this like mad recently,
and I like to read his tweets.

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We can to see who does these
better with these May 4th, he

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said, Comcast shut up a
long-overdue, Florida, cold

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case, against psycho Joe
Scarborough, I know him and

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crazy Mica.
Well use them beautifully in the

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last election, dump them nicely
and will State on the record

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that he is quote unquote.
Not besides bad ratings.

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Hashtag, open choke whole case.
May 12th, he tweeted, when will

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they open a cold case?
On the psycho Joe Scarborough

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matter in Florida?
Did he get away with murder?

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Some people think?
So, why did he leave Congress so

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quietly, isn’t it obvious,
what’s happening?

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Now, a total nut job that
sounded more like Bernie

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Sanders.
I don’t know, that job by May

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24th Road.
A lot of interest and this story

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about Joe Scarborough so we
young marathon runner just

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happened.
A fan in his office, hit her

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head on his desk and died.
I would think there’s a lot more

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to the story than that.
An affair.

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What about the so-called
investigator?

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Read story.
And then on May 26th, he tweeted

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the opening of a cold case
against psycho.

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Joe Scarborough was not a Donald
Trump original thought.

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This has been going on for years
long before I joined the chorus

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in 2016, when Joe and his wacky,
E future ex-wife Mika.

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Would endlessly interview me?
I would always be thinking dot

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dot dot.
He is right about that part.

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He’s not the only person who has
pushed this conspiracy theory

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over the years.
No, but none of those people

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have proven it either.
No, no.

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It’s proven anything.
So in looking into this story,

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we have to go back to 2017 When
Donald Trump first tweet about

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it and he said, now, the mat
Laurel hour is gone When will

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the fake news practitioners at
NBC?

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Be terminating the contract of
Phil Griffin, and will they

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terminate low ratings, Joe,
Scarborough, based on the

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unsolved mystery that took place
in Florida years ago?

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Investigate?
Yeah.

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Do you want someone to be
careful for low ratings more

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than the fact that there are
murderer?

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Yeah, he keeps going back to low
ratings constantly.

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But seriously, it’s just like,
yeah.

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Just cancel that motherfucker.
Plus, he’s a murderer.

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Yeah, when he tweeted about it
back, Back then the Washington

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Post reported on it and they
figured out that he was

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referring to the 2001 death of
Lori Klaus.

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Udhas, was a 28 year old aide
who worked for Scarborough at

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the time.
When he represented Florida’s

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first, congressional district.
Yeah, this wasn’t a thing.

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A lot of people knew about.
So they did have to do a little

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digging to figure out what the
fuck he was doing the talking

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about.
Because again the only one at

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the time talking about it.
So yeah, Lori was working for

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Row.
But this is a weird time in the

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Scarborough story.
So the time of that, her death

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authorities concluded that she
died after losing Consciousness

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from abnormal heart, rhythm and
collapsed.

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Striking her head on a death,
and the death was in the office

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of Joe Scarborough, right?
But it was in his satellite

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office, in a different County.
So it wasn’t an office.

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He used frequently.
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So, this was kind of a, well, I
don’t know how this lines up in

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the timeline with Gary Condit
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That’s the thing we have.
Have I have some stuff in the

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notes later about the
comparisons between the two and

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chronologically, they line up
really well, we just did an

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episode of this podcast about
Chandra Levy as luck would have

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it.
And this is all happening around

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the same general time.
We just like, right before 9/11.

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Right?
Which that’s an important thing

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to remember.
When you hear people talking

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about, oh, why did the media
they just drop this story.

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It’s like, ya know.
Eleven happened.

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We were a little preoccupied for
a few months after that, it was

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kind of the most important thing
to happen to the United States

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since Pearl Harbor arguably,
right?

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Right.
Possibly more.

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It was a pretty big story.
A lot of things got bumped,

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that’s a result.
So if you’re listening to this

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and you’re thinking Ted intern,
I’ve heard this one before.

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That’s why you’re thinking,
probably that it’s sort of a

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similar accusation or
Coincidence of things that this

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did happen at the same time and
So just to kind of go over these

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kind of immediate details of
your thinking.

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This sounds fishy right off the
bat according to a police

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report, the site has had told a
colleague that she was not

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feeling.
Well, the day before she was

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found dead.
And I think we also talked about

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this that she had told a post
Postman guy, their post guy,

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right?
Who came by who she said, hey,

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you know, I’m not feeling.
Well she had told at least two

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people that she didn’t feel well
right before this happened.

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And yeah, so she was on a couple
of this woman.

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She was 28 which is you know, a
very healthy.

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Young age, usually that people
don’t die at.

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But she said that she had been
taking medication for acne that

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she’d suffered a head injury in
a traffic accident when she was

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a teenager and that had left her
in a coma though.

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Yeah, I think we all kind of
know at this point that, you

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know, as fun as they make it
seem in the movies when people

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get knocked unconscious, you
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And as much as we talk about,
you know, like, when they they

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do is talk about football.
They’ll be like, oh, you know,

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bash style football.
We always think that’s kind of

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fun.
We talked about in boxing with

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someone being Punch-Drunk head
These are not as fun as we used

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to think.
They were back in the early

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2000s, then that they’ve lost,
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They used to have, did you know
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In fact, small birds do not fly
around your skull when you just

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suffer a traumatic, brain
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Yeah, there was that good long
time there where an NFL player

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would get a concussion and we’d
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of the game.
Okay, exactly.

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Yeah, aim your helmet, go
knocked off.

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Well in wrestling to there would
be all kinds of gimmicks where a

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character would suffer a
concussion one week and the next

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week they Be Actin all goofy.
Oh yeah I would act silly yeah.

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Watching a 2001 WWE Dwayne, The
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I’m scared for him because the
number of a chair shot that man

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is taken to the head is
outrageous.

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But so talking back to Lori is
the woman who died, in this

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case, she may be suffering from
seizures in the past.

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And in this case, you know, she
obviously had a worrisome

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medical history and The police
were investigating her death

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concluded.
There was no evidence of Foul

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Play and this death was ruled
purely accidental and closed.

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So is it a Cold Case?
No it’s not a Cold Case at all

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and never was yeah it’s not a
cold case and the notion that no

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one investigated this.
In the media at the time is

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untrue.
There was a guy named Bill

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Adair, who is the journalist who
founded PolitiFact, which is a

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generally well-respected.
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He was working for the st.
Petersburg times.

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At the time, which is now, I
think the Tampa Bay times and he

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in looked into this case in 2001
when it happened and he said

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after looking into the case and
interviewing the police chief

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and the medical examiner, who
performed the autopsy, who we

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will talk about more later?
Add are concluded.

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There was no question in my mind
that this was an accidental

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death and that there was no foul
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And how.
How often do you hear about

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journalists denying?
That a story might exist or an

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interesting lead in something
like this that would get them

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front-page headlines, right?
And it’s important to keep in

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mind that bill Adair founded
PolitiFact, which is a

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left-leaning website and Joe
Scarborough was a republican

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Congressman.
So if anyone would have had a

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little motivation to take down
Joe Scarborough after looking

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into this, it would have been
Bill.

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A dare like he wouldn’t have
pulled any fucking punches.

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There would be no reason for him
to and Talk about a little bit

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more later.
We want our people interested,

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but Joe Scarborough, I mean, for
all his, you know, Rivers Cuomo

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glasses.
Now, an anti-trump Ranch back in

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the 90s, this man voted to
impeach Bill Clinton.

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He passed these new laws that
concerning damage to fetuses and

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I was extremely pro-life.
He he, you know, wanted to cut

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the minimum wage.
He wanted to take down HUD

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though, a lot of things to do
with education and reform that

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we’re kind of for nowadays, it’s
guy was totally against it,

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right?
So if people People in the media

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which it’s interesting will get
into more details about this

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later too, but it was kind of
painted as.

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Oh, the media is protecting Joe
Scarborough like the people who

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push this Theory and it’s like,
when did that switch happen?

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Where the media used to protect
Republicans?

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And now they protect Democrats.
Like where did that?

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Because that’s what we hear now
is that the media is just all

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biased toward Democrats, but
back then it was people were

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saying well the media is
protecting Joe Scarborough and

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it’s like it.
He’s a republican, he switched

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sides completely and he’s still
being protected.

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It’s kind of interesting that
he’s it’s sort of a it some of

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1984 shrines like who are we
fighting?

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Now, just cover the Republican
or just cover the Democrat.

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Yeah.
Now he says he’s independent,

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but whatever, but also his music
sucks.

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So no one’s protecting.
That is he a musician, dude?

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He’s always had a band and his
band is fucking balls.

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Yeah, so he was on Colbert,
recycle Bear for the something

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in his band played, which is
like, it’s like it’s kind of

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fun.
It’s sort of like a real Really

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bad version of Jimmy, Buffett
crossed with some white Clash

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inspired song.
I don’t know really bad.

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But also, I mean, we can talk a
little bit about his personal

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life at that time, which was a
joke Scarborough had been

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married and had two kids.
And then around 2001, he married

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this other woman who was, who
worked for George h.w.

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Bush or sorry, George W.
Bush when he was a governor of

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Florida.
So he was married going to marry

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this staffer.
So there’s all these rumors and

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better with as a story, they
speculated that show Scarborough

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was having this affair with
Lori, but nothing from Joe

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Scarborough’s, personal life, or
her personal life point to that

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at all.
All right, and that’s that’s one

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of the ways it doesn’t parallel.
The Gary Condit thing because

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Gary Condit did very much have a
relationship with the girl who

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went missing where as Joe,
Scarborough has always

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maintained he met this woman
like three times in the entire

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time she worked for him, which
is very fucking Possible.

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Oh, totally it from all like
Lori Equus, Isis from all her

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friends and everything and just
say that she had a happy

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marriage.
She was her nickname was Little

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Mary sunshine and her husband
and her were moving into.

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To a new house.
She was getting a new job.

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Who’s taking college classes,
like nothing in their marriage

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pointed.
To she’s having an affair and No

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One Believes she was.
So, yeah, I think we talked

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about that, but if you want to
get into the lot of these like

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more recent things that have
come out about it, we can talk

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about.
I know you haven’t notice here,

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the Jennifer been Beggin ya?
These Jennifer van Bergen

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articles are interesting.
I have confirmed Jennifer van

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Bergen is a real person.
She is a writer, isn’t it weird?

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You have to do that.
Yeah, Well, the reason I have to

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do it is a lot of the stories
over the years that bring up

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this Scandal.
They point to these this series

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of Articles written by Jennifer
van Bergen for a site called

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Truth out.
And the thing is, I can’t find

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those articles anywhere, their
truth out still exists, but if

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you search on their website for
these articles, they’re not,

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there there are a bunch of,
like, not that reliable

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websites, that have reposted M.
And the weird thing about them

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is they’re all dated January 4th
or January 6th 2001, which is

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months and months and months
prior to, when this death

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happened.
So I feel like, I’m not even

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sure if these articles ever
really happened.

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This could be a fucking
elaborate hoax that these

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articles ever even existed.
I have no idea, but it’s very

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weird that he got to do that.
Yeah, that’s what I found

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worried about.
It is linking back to Things all

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the Articles would say reprinted
from this time or that time.

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And none of them that I couldn’t
seem to actually find the

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website link to the original
posting.

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So it is if you’re looking to do
this and saying this whole

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scenario seems fishy, it does
seem fishy.

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And I mean, part of me wants to
say that that somehow related

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to, you know, the early internet
and the way things were working

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than when journalism and
reprinting articles, but I don’t

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know.
It’s up to you could be related

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to the fact that if you go on
the internet and openly, Accuse

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someone of murder, your kind of
committing libel or defamation

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and and you can only get away
with that if you’re the

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President, right?
Yeah, kinda.

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So it’s very possible that Joe
Scarborough had lawyers reach

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out to these people and was
like, look if you can prove this

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fine but otherwise we’re gonna
fucking sue you, if you leave

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this shit up, I don’t know.
I don’t know what happens to

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these articles, but these truth
out articles, by Jennifer van

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Bergen are very hard to find.
But Her reasoning for and we’ll

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link to him if you want to read
the whole thing.

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But the kind of bullet point
reasoning for her believing that

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Joe Scarborough maybe committed
murder was the fact that he

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resigned a few months prior,
which to me, makes it less

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likely that he would have killed
this woman.

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Because he resigned like, five
months prior to when this death

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happened, like, what was he
trying to prevent by murdering

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this woman like he was already
leaving Congress?

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Yeah, it like Yeah, I think I
pointed out earlier that she had

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a lorry had already gotten a new
job or she was interviewing for

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a new job that was going to give
her a six thousand dollar

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raised.
So she knew well ahead of time,

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this was going to happen and she
was in the office but at the

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time she was going to work for a
radio station, which was really

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excited for.
And so it wasn’t, it wasn’t even

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a surprise to her that he was
going to quit.

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Congress, everybody in the
office knew and everybody was

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going to get the new jobs,
right?

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They also talked about
contradictory reports about a

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visible head injury and this I
think is also kind of dumb

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because they’re basing it on the
fact that a police report at one

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point said, well there was no
sign of head trauma, but the

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autopsy showed that she had a
7-inch fracture in her skull.

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That doesn’t necessarily point
to contradictory evidence like a

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skull fracture isn’t a thing you
would automatically see, I would

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think well yeah it depends I
mean women have a lot of hair

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This was a stupid to say women
have a lot of hair and the skull

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is usually covered by hair and
unless there’s a ton of blood

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around it.
You probably wouldn’t see a

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fracture on.
This was bleeding out, an

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incredible amount and if you hit
someone in the back of the head

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like we’re at the, okay.
So if you if you have an injury

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close to like your forehead,
it’s a very vascular area you’re

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going to bleed a ton.
That’s why you do.

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You see Ric Flair wrestling
match and stuff.

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They used to bleed up nearer.
Basically their hairline cut up

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there with me.
My crazy because it bleeds of

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times.
But if she’s hit in the back of

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the head, that’s much less
faster.

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You’re not going to bleed out
the same way.

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So I mean, it makes sense that
they wouldn’t see a big pool of

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blood or a big, a big gash in
the head and it does say that

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there was a bruise on her head
and it’s like, of course, there

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was a bruise on her head.
She died from an accidental

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fall, like why wouldn’t there be
bruise on her head?

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That’s a completely different
thing.

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Yeah, I don’t know how big she
was size wise but you know let’s

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say 130 pound Force hitting a
hard The wooden desk, you know,

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with a full weight of your body
you know dead way that’s going

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to fucking hit hard, right?
She also in these articles

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points to the fact and a lot of
people point to the fact that

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Lori class udhas was a marathon
runner.

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So how would she have died of
heart problems?

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Is you as a marathon runner
Anthem possible?

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She was 28 years old healthy as
a horse.

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Yeah, this is just people not
understanding how the body.

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Works.
And like just because you’re a

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runner doesn’t automatically
mean, you’re healthy.

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A good example to look up.
America is Jim Fixx, who granted

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he died a little later in life.
He was in his 50s but he’s also

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the guy who basically invented
jogging if you can even say that

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but he’s the reason jogging
became a really popular exercise

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in this country.
He wrote two books in the 70s

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that like kicked that whole
thing off there.

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As a joke about it and fucking
Anchorman right yagi it’s called

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jogging it was yeah just don’t
lie you just run?

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Yeah yeah but I mean think about
it really if you look at like

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even movie stars or whatever in
the forties fifties they don’t

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look that fit it around like the
70s you have Prefontaine you

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have a lot of more track
athletes or running as a popular

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form of exercise, I mean, yeah.
So that guy became huge.

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Published books was in the media
all the time.

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As you know, saying the new
healthy lifestyle, low-fat was

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just beginning to hit as a thing
that people More into right?

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And America guess how he died of
a heart attack while jogging, he

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was what was referred to or what
science still refers to as an

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obligate Runner, which meant he
took running more seriously than

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anything in his life to the
point that he basically ran

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himself to death.
And they have talked about Lori

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classless running five miles a
day, which is Isn’t that

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extreme, but that is like a 5k a
day, which has a lot of running

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and she had all this other
stress in her life.

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So the fact that she was that
Physically Active could have

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been a detriment and it seems
like it was sort of a detriment

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when you add all the stress she
was under and possibly an

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undiagnosed heart condition,
which doesn’t mean you got it

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from eating meatball subs, it
could just be a fucking birth

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defect.
It could be anything.

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I mean I when I was in high
school I had a kid in my high

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school.
I have a brain aneurysm and just

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drop dead at 17 and you know no
one’s going to implicate me in a

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murder.
Right.

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Did Laura Crawford of that guy
of a brain aneurysm know

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exactly.
And I’m so like blood clots and

434
00:23:10,000 –> 00:23:12,800
things like that, we sort of
mysterious how it occurs in like

435
00:23:12,800 –> 00:23:16,000
we said, she was in a car
accident, which caused, you

436
00:23:16,000 –> 00:23:19,600
know, damage and could cause
issues with her circulatory

437
00:23:19,600 –> 00:23:22,600
system, her, you know, her
cardiac system brain, everything

438
00:23:22,600 –> 00:23:25,900
like that but also we were
mentioning that she was on acne

439
00:23:25,900 –> 00:23:29,600
medication and I don’t know
exactly which one she was on,

440
00:23:29,700 –> 00:23:33,600
but I think anyone who’s ever
heard of Accutane knows that it

441
00:23:33,600 –> 00:23:36,400
causes such serious health
conditions, that can literally

442
00:23:36,400 –> 00:23:41,300
kill a fetus in your body, and
it’s known to cause a number of

443
00:23:41,300 –> 00:23:43,500
issues with psychosis mental
illness.

444
00:23:43,500 –> 00:23:46,200
It’s known to cause issues, with
a swelling of the brain.

445
00:23:46,200 –> 00:23:49,000
It’s known to cause cardiac
issues and it was looking this

446
00:23:49,000 –> 00:23:52,400
up and can acne medications
cause heart problems definitely.

447
00:23:52,400 –> 00:23:55,300
So a lot, a lot of acne
medications are synthetic

448
00:23:55,300 –> 00:23:57,200
vitamin A, they’re called
retinoids.

449
00:23:57,200 –> 00:23:58,300
Yeah.
And you know, this is used to

450
00:23:58,308 –> 00:24:01,300
causal care, A lotta
Dermatological disorders and

451
00:24:01,300 –> 00:24:06,100
basically in cause cardiac side
effects like atrial tachycardia

452
00:24:06,300 –> 00:24:09,400
congenital heart disease and
cardiac remodeling.

453
00:24:09,400 –> 00:24:12,900
So it can cause congenital heart
disease and arrhythmias which

454
00:24:12,900 –> 00:24:14,600
are frequently atrial
arrhythmia.

455
00:24:14,900 –> 00:24:18,000
And a case of right bundle
branch.

456
00:24:18,000 –> 00:24:21,000
Block were reported due to this
vitamin A use.

457
00:24:21,100 –> 00:24:24,900
So be so basically blockages and
arrhythmias can both be caused

458
00:24:24,900 –> 00:24:27,300
by acne medications, which I’m
sure aren’t helped.

459
00:24:27,400 –> 00:24:29,400
If you’re running five miles a
day, right?

460
00:24:29,400 –> 00:24:32,800
And an arrhythmia is, what
killed her, that was the thing

461
00:24:32,800 –> 00:24:37,200
that stopped her heart and I
actually knew a person who was,

462
00:24:37,200 –> 00:24:41,900
I think you could describe as an
obligate Runner and at one point

463
00:24:41,900 –> 00:24:45,400
that motherfucker, we were just
hanging out in my living room

464
00:24:45,700 –> 00:24:49,000
and that motherfucker just
passed out and fell into a lamp

465
00:24:49,000 –> 00:24:50,500
that was in the corner of the
room.

466
00:24:50,900 –> 00:24:54,600
And it was because he had gone
running under conditions that no

467
00:24:54,600 –> 00:24:57,300
fucking sane person would ever
go running.

468
00:24:57,500 –> 00:25:00,600
Hadn’t been eating enough and
just fucking fainted right there

469
00:25:00,600 –> 00:25:03,200
in my living room and he was
relatively healthy.

470
00:25:03,200 –> 00:25:06,100
I would imagine all that fucking
running or maybe he wasn’t

471
00:25:06,100 –> 00:25:08,600
because I didn’t faint, but he
did and I hadn’t done any

472
00:25:08,600 –> 00:25:10,900
running recently.
So if you’re hung up on the

473
00:25:10,900 –> 00:25:13,000
notion that she was a runner and
couldn’t have had heart

474
00:25:13,000 –> 00:25:15,100
problems, as a result, you’re
just wrong.

475
00:25:15,100 –> 00:25:17,800
You are wrong.
Yeah and and I think we’re also

476
00:25:17,800 –> 00:25:20,900
undermining, how many deaths do
occur in people’s regular homes

477
00:25:20,900 –> 00:25:23,700
through things like passing out
and hitting your head that those

478
00:25:23,700 –> 00:25:25,100
sort of accidents occur all the
time.

479
00:25:25,200 –> 00:25:27,500
Do you know how a lot of body
builders died accidentally Lee,

480
00:25:27,500 –> 00:25:29,900
they wake up in the morning to
eat, you know, they have like

481
00:25:29,900 –> 00:25:33,100
scheduled times they have to eat
and they’ll go to the fridge to

482
00:25:33,100 –> 00:25:35,500
eat and they’re not even awake.
And they’ll choke to death on

483
00:25:35,500 –> 00:25:37,800
food because they’re just
cosmetically eating and fall

484
00:25:37,800 –> 00:25:40,000
asleep while they’re eating and
forget to breathe and choke

485
00:25:40,000 –> 00:25:41,700
that.
I know a wrestler in WWE dating

486
00:25:41,700 –> 00:25:45,100
Brooke her her fiancé died that
way but it’s a repeated thing

487
00:25:45,100 –> 00:25:47,300
that happens to bodybuilders.
You think people are healthy,

488
00:25:47,300 –> 00:25:49,400
there’s no way to die like that.
There’s plenty of ways to die

489
00:25:49,400 –> 00:25:51,300
that way.
Yeah, I wonder how many deaths

490
00:25:51,300 –> 00:25:56,600
are caused by Falls a lot in the
United States, dude.

491
00:25:56,600 –> 00:25:57,600
Just having us.
Yep.

492
00:25:57,600 –> 00:26:00,300
Be even a quarter of an inch
difference is responsible for so

493
00:26:00,300 –> 00:26:02,600
many deaths and staircases
throughout the whole country.

494
00:26:02,600 –> 00:26:05,600
I mean, there’s a really good
series of around YouTube, where

495
00:26:05,600 –> 00:26:08,400
a woman does these, it’s for
BBC, she illustrates how

496
00:26:08,400 –> 00:26:10,500
different historical eras things
in the home.

497
00:26:10,500 –> 00:26:14,400
Could kill you balls, kill more
than 27 thousand people a year

498
00:26:14,500 –> 00:26:17,700
in the United States.
So what happened to this woman

499
00:26:17,700 –> 00:26:22,100
is not that rare and since the
the Jennifer van Bergen

500
00:26:22,100 –> 00:26:25,100
articles, bring up her husband.
Let’s talk about her husband.

501
00:26:25,100 –> 00:26:28,300
Yeah, mr.
Timothy Cetus let’s take it

502
00:26:28,300 –> 00:26:31,300
Sleepless udhas.
If anyone would have a vested

503
00:26:31,300 –> 00:26:34,600
interest in whether or not this
woman was murdered, it would be

504
00:26:34,600 –> 00:26:39,000
her husband at the time, right?
And he has actually, since this

505
00:26:39,100 –> 00:26:43,700
came up again, sent a letter to
CEO, Twitter, Jack Dorsey that

506
00:26:43,700 –> 00:26:45,600
was published in the New York
Times.

507
00:26:46,000 –> 00:26:49,900
Asking him to take down these
Trump tweets.

508
00:26:50,200 –> 00:26:53,400
He said the theory had been
repeatedly debunked and the

509
00:26:53,400 –> 00:26:57,200
resurfacing of the story had
left him frustrated and grieved.

510
00:26:57,400 –> 00:27:00,000
This is another quote from the
letter, her passing is the

511
00:27:00,000 –> 00:27:03,400
single most painful thing that I
have ever had to deal with in my

512
00:27:03,400 –> 00:27:07,900
52 years and continues to haunt
her parents and sister as her

513
00:27:07,900 –> 00:27:10,300
husband.
I feel that one of my marital

514
00:27:10,300 –> 00:27:14,000
obligations is to protect her
memory as I would have protected

515
00:27:14,000 –> 00:27:17,100
her in life.
Twitter, politely declined to

516
00:27:17,100 –> 00:27:19,700
take those tweets down.
It’s insane.

517
00:27:19,700 –> 00:27:22,600
He used called out for these
trees to be removed and he’s

518
00:27:22,600 –> 00:27:26,200
never never called for there to
be an increased investigation

519
00:27:26,200 –> 00:27:28,500
into her death even At the time
it occurred.

520
00:27:28,500 –> 00:27:32,500
He never expressed any
displeasure with the conclusions

521
00:27:32,500 –> 00:27:34,100
that the medical examiner had
come to.

522
00:27:34,300 –> 00:27:37,100
He never disagreed with what the
police concluded.

523
00:27:37,100 –> 00:27:39,200
So it’s not just that he’s
saying, I don’t think Joe

524
00:27:39,200 –> 00:27:42,600
Scarborough was not involved, he
doesn’t think there’s any more

525
00:27:42,600 –> 00:27:44,800
questions about her death at
all, right?

526
00:27:44,800 –> 00:27:46,500
It’s not just that, he doesn’t
want the president to tweet

527
00:27:46,500 –> 00:27:48,300
about it.
It’s this as man has never had

528
00:27:48,300 –> 00:27:49,900
an issue with the investigation
at all.

529
00:27:49,900 –> 00:27:52,600
Yeah, and you like you’ll
sometimes see something like

530
00:27:52,600 –> 00:27:56,100
this where the family is still
insistent that an alternate

531
00:27:56,100 –> 00:28:00,000
Theory isn’t And usually, in
those cases, someone else has

532
00:28:00,000 –> 00:28:03,600
already gone to prison.
So the families like no, yeah,

533
00:28:03,600 –> 00:28:06,600
we already got the person.
This, there’s none of that here.

534
00:28:06,700 –> 00:28:09,800
This is, like, never been at
trial, never been in, yet never

535
00:28:09,800 –> 00:28:12,900
been a trial, never been a grand
jury called about this.

536
00:28:12,900 –> 00:28:16,100
There’s never been any sort of
legal proceedings to attach any

537
00:28:16,100 –> 00:28:19,800
guilt to anyone.
Yeah, it honestly seems like she

538
00:28:19,800 –> 00:28:23,100
died of an accidental fall in
jail, Scarborough’s office.

539
00:28:23,400 –> 00:28:27,200
Like, there is nothing here.
That points to murder.

540
00:28:27,300 –> 00:28:31,500
But there are some weird details
that we have to mention.

541
00:28:31,600 –> 00:28:34,700
I feel like I mean it does suck
that shit.

542
00:28:34,800 –> 00:28:37,100
This happen.
Yeah, it really sucks.

543
00:28:37,100 –> 00:28:42,100
I don’t think this was a murder.
I want to go on record and say

544
00:28:42,100 –> 00:28:45,600
that, but it’s not normal, it’s
not normal, it’s not normal, and

545
00:28:45,600 –> 00:28:49,200
there are some not normal
details on Joe Scarborough’s.

546
00:28:49,200 –> 00:28:54,100
Part case in point, at one
point, he went on the Don Imus

547
00:28:54,100 –> 00:28:56,400
show and I’ll just play this
clip.

548
00:28:56,400 –> 00:28:58,300
It’s really short.
I think you’ll be able to hear

549
00:28:58,300 –> 00:29:00,600
it too.
Here we go and then we’ll be

550
00:29:00,600 –> 00:29:03,200
right back.
You know, occasionally we’re

551
00:29:03,200 –> 00:29:05,900
going to try to help you and
you’ve just right Charles you’ve

552
00:29:05,900 –> 00:29:09,000
got to listen what would tell me
what I need to do?

553
00:29:09,000 –> 00:29:11,000
No, you’re doing great.
I mean don’t be afraid to be

554
00:29:11,000 –> 00:29:11,800
funny.
Okay.

555
00:29:11,900 –> 00:29:14,700
Because you are funny.
That was a very you know I asked

556
00:29:14,700 –> 00:29:16,600
her why you weren’t in Congress.
You said you had sex with an

557
00:29:16,608 –> 00:29:21,700
intern then you had to kill her.
I mean it’s pretty risky to say

558
00:29:21,800 –> 00:29:24,900
what you going to do?
Yeah that is pretty risky to say

559
00:29:24,900 –> 00:29:26,800
key.
I would he say that it reminds

560
00:29:26,800 –> 00:29:29,800
me of a of when we did the
Chandra Levy episode, there’s

561
00:29:29,800 –> 00:29:33,700
this really weird detail where
one of the women who accused

562
00:29:33,700 –> 00:29:38,400
John Conyers of sexual
misconduct said that one of the

563
00:29:38,400 –> 00:29:43,700
things he did at one point was
he was giving her a ride home

564
00:29:43,700 –> 00:29:46,600
and he like pulled over and
started hitting on her.

565
00:29:47,200 –> 00:29:51,900
And she refused his advances at
which point he said he had

566
00:29:51,900 –> 00:29:57,100
Insider knowledge of what
happened to Chandra Levy goddamn

567
00:29:57,900 –> 00:30:00,800
She took it as a threat and ran
from the car.

568
00:30:01,000 –> 00:30:05,600
Yeah, I would too Jesus fucking
Christ so that doesn’t do

569
00:30:06,000 –> 00:30:08,100
anyone.
Any favors when it comes to the

570
00:30:08,100 –> 00:30:12,000
Chandra Levy case knowing that
that quote is out there and God

571
00:30:12,000 –> 00:30:14,000
damn it.
Joe Scarborough, I bet he wasn’t

572
00:30:14,000 –> 00:30:17,700
expecting Don Imus to repeat
that joke.

573
00:30:17,800 –> 00:30:20,000
No, show.
I don’t think he was expecting

574
00:30:20,000 –> 00:30:21,500
it either.
I think it’s just sort of it

575
00:30:21,500 –> 00:30:23,800
sort of points to in general.
Not to go up and a tangent to

576
00:30:23,800 –> 00:30:26,400
heard on this.
But how it’s interesting that

577
00:30:26,400 –> 00:30:30,500
Don Imus who obviously got a lot
of shit for saying racist sexist

578
00:30:30,500 –> 00:30:33,300
comments that these men,
especially in the wake of the,

579
00:30:33,500 –> 00:30:36,900
you know, Monica Lewinsky stuff.
How little regard they have?

580
00:30:36,900 –> 00:30:39,800
For life of young women, but it
is just so funny, though.

581
00:30:39,800 –> 00:30:41,900
You fucking enter, and then
she’s dead, right?

582
00:30:41,900 –> 00:30:43,700
Because they’re just the holes
that we use.

583
00:30:43,700 –> 00:30:47,300
Ha ha ha, you know, that’s the
vibe I get from them all that

584
00:30:47,300 –> 00:30:49,800
they’re just like, huh?
They stupid dumb whores that

585
00:30:49,800 –> 00:30:51,800
want to work for us to get
somewhere, isn’t it?

586
00:30:51,800 –> 00:30:54,500
Funny if they all end up dead in
a hole, it’s like would it be

587
00:30:54,500 –> 00:30:57,100
funny if you got your fucking
head cut off in Afghanistan yet?

588
00:30:57,300 –> 00:30:58,800
Can laugh, Riot?
What the fuck?

589
00:30:58,800 –> 00:31:01,700
Are you talking about?
Yeah, it’s it’s a really

590
00:31:01,700 –> 00:31:03,500
unfortunate joke.
Premise.

591
00:31:04,300 –> 00:31:06,400
God damn sure.
I mean I’ve been in the

592
00:31:06,400 –> 00:31:09,700
situation where I’ve been on a
podcast so is making a joke that

593
00:31:09,700 –> 00:31:11,800
I’m not expecting.
It may be a joke that I don’t

594
00:31:11,800 –> 00:31:14,600
agree with you know, or I’ve
been on Radio Show in Boston.

595
00:31:14,600 –> 00:31:17,500
I was on a morning show where
the host said a bunch of races

596
00:31:17,500 –> 00:31:21,000
things that I wasn’t prepared
and I was really uncomfortable

597
00:31:21,000 –> 00:31:24,500
because I felt like I can’t stop
this show and be like, that was

598
00:31:24,500 –> 00:31:26,500
wrong.
You were very racist.

599
00:31:26,500 –> 00:31:28,000
I don’t agree.
With that, you know what I mean?

600
00:31:28,000 –> 00:31:30,800
It’s like when you’re in some of
these situations, it is somewhat

601
00:31:30,900 –> 00:31:32,800
somewhat difficult to respond.
I’m sure you picked up with

602
00:31:32,800 –> 00:31:34,500
that.
Oh yeah, 100%.

603
00:31:34,700 –> 00:31:40,300
And it’s still like, I still
can’t imagine making that joke.

604
00:31:40,300 –> 00:31:43,600
Like I just, I can’t picture.
I don’t know.

605
00:31:43,700 –> 00:31:46,900
I mean I guess the fact that he
wasn’t mic’d up when he said it.

606
00:31:46,900 –> 00:31:49,900
I guess that explains why he
would say it, but it still

607
00:31:49,900 –> 00:31:51,900
doesn’t really explain why he
would say it.

608
00:31:51,900 –> 00:31:55,300
Hmm, it’s extremely weird and
also it’s just bizarre

609
00:31:55,300 –> 00:31:57,100
considering that Joe Scarborough
had.

610
00:31:57,300 –> 00:31:59,600
Tried to have Bill Clinton and
Peach for having sex with an

611
00:31:59,600 –> 00:32:00,900
intern.
And then he finds it.

612
00:32:00,908 –> 00:32:04,100
So funny to joke about an intern
being fucked and murdered,

613
00:32:04,100 –> 00:32:05,600
right?
And she was, she an internship

614
00:32:05,600 –> 00:32:08,600
as a staffer volunteer, as she
was one of her four years AIDS.

615
00:32:08,600 –> 00:32:11,800
I don’t know if she was in turn,
but yeah, it’s just so funny.

616
00:32:11,800 –> 00:32:15,900
How, like any woman who works
for a man in the retelling of a

617
00:32:15,900 –> 00:32:17,800
stewardship to go to work for
me?

618
00:32:17,800 –> 00:32:20,400
You can make anything sleaze,
sounds sleazy like that.

619
00:32:20,400 –> 00:32:23,000
You know what I mean?
Any woman who’s below a certain

620
00:32:23,000 –> 00:32:26,800
age, who works for a man and he
the any media can spin it at

621
00:32:26,800 –> 00:32:28,100
all.
They were like, oh, was he

622
00:32:28,100 –> 00:32:29,800
fucking her what?
He’s sticking it to it.

623
00:32:29,808 –> 00:32:32,300
You know, it’s like they make it
all disgust him all the time,

624
00:32:32,300 –> 00:32:33,700
right?
It’s just the way they report.

625
00:32:33,700 –> 00:32:37,000
These stories she was in her
twenties and it’s like she was a

626
00:32:37,000 –> 00:32:39,900
20 year old married woman who’s,
like, working for somebody but

627
00:32:39,900 –> 00:32:42,000
they may always make you sound
so sleazy, like fucking the

628
00:32:42,000 –> 00:32:45,200
secretary stuff.
It’s just and it’s it’s really

629
00:32:45,200 –> 00:32:48,800
unfortunate that that is being
thrown around so much in this

630
00:32:48,800 –> 00:32:52,500
case, when there’s no evidence
of it, there’s no evidence at

631
00:32:52,500 –> 00:32:55,500
all that she was having an
affair with Joe Scarborough.

632
00:32:55,700 –> 00:32:57,100
Yeah.
Or anybody else?

633
00:32:57,300 –> 00:32:59,900
And you know, this woman’s
husband is being made to look

634
00:32:59,900 –> 00:33:01,600
like a goddamn cock.
You know what I mean?

635
00:33:01,600 –> 00:33:03,500
By the way, I’m so glad you
found out the stuff about the

636
00:33:03,500 –> 00:33:06,100
metal medical examiner because I
hadn’t seen this and I’m

637
00:33:06,100 –> 00:33:10,900
delighted I’m just as someone
who is a big fan of autopsies

638
00:33:10,900 –> 00:33:11,400
ever.
Since.

639
00:33:11,400 –> 00:33:15,300
I know for saw X-Files this
young girl, I was just over the

640
00:33:15,300 –> 00:33:17,100
moon that you found this info.
Yeah.

641
00:33:17,100 –> 00:33:22,400
The the other really weird
detail about this and you’ll get

642
00:33:22,400 –> 00:33:26,500
no arguments for me that this is
sketchy, the medical examiner in

643
00:33:26,500 –> 00:33:28,800
this case.
Ace is guy named Michael

644
00:33:28,800 –> 00:33:30,900
Berkland.
He’s the medical examiner.

645
00:33:30,900 –> 00:33:36,700
Who did the autopsy on Lori
classless and he has a checkered

646
00:33:36,700 –> 00:33:42,100
work history.
To say the least in 1996, he was

647
00:33:42,100 –> 00:33:45,700
fired as a contract, medical
examiner in Jackson County.

648
00:33:45,700 –> 00:33:50,800
Missouri after investigators
found a ton dissected brains

649
00:33:50,900 –> 00:33:54,500
when they reviewed files and
specimens handled by birkland

650
00:33:54,700 –> 00:33:56,800
indicating.
He had fabricated.

651
00:33:56,900 –> 00:34:00,300
Aw, See results from there.
He went to work for the

652
00:34:00,300 –> 00:34:03,600
District. 1 medical examiner’s
office in Pensacola Florida from

653
00:34:03,600 –> 00:34:07,000
1997 to 2003.
That’s obviously when he would

654
00:34:07,000 –> 00:34:10,300
have done the autopsy in
question here he was eventually

655
00:34:10,300 –> 00:34:14,100
fired from that job for not
completing autopsy reports.

656
00:34:14,199 –> 00:34:19,500
And then in 2012, he was
arrested after authorities,

657
00:34:19,500 –> 00:34:24,699
discovered more than 100 body
parts, stored in formaldehyde in

658
00:34:24,699 –> 00:34:27,100
plastic containers, specimen
cup.

659
00:34:27,199 –> 00:34:31,600
Oops, trash bags and one body
part that was in a 32 ounce

660
00:34:31,600 –> 00:34:36,400
Styrofoam cup from a convenience
store that Discovery happened

661
00:34:36,400 –> 00:34:39,699
after Berkland stopped paying
rent on the storage unit.

662
00:34:39,699 –> 00:34:43,600
It was all in and it was
auctioned off for $900 God I

663
00:34:43,600 –> 00:34:46,000
wish I could have seen that
episode of Storage Wars.

664
00:34:46,600 –> 00:34:49,400
Could you say that this guy got
all up in them guts?

665
00:34:49,699 –> 00:34:56,500
You could say that?
Oh disgusting disgusting.

666
00:34:57,300 –> 00:34:59,700
Paris Hilton had a storage unit
taken away from her because she

667
00:34:59,707 –> 00:35:02,500
didn’t she didn’t provide
payment for it and that’s how

668
00:35:02,500 –> 00:35:04,600
they find out that she had a
prescription for Valtrex the

669
00:35:04,600 –> 00:35:07,200
herpes medication.
Why would you save that?

670
00:35:07,400 –> 00:35:08,600
I’m sorry.
I don’t know.

671
00:35:08,600 –> 00:35:11,100
She had it or thing.
Anyway, so this dude.

672
00:35:11,100 –> 00:35:13,300
Yes.
I just love the story of a man,

673
00:35:13,300 –> 00:35:15,600
so incompetent.
The state of Missouri wouldn’t

674
00:35:15,600 –> 00:35:17,600
have them.
He had to go to Florida.

675
00:35:17,600 –> 00:35:21,500
And then he got fired there too.
And there are, there are some

676
00:35:21,500 –> 00:35:25,500
questions about his supervisor
having donated to Joe

677
00:35:25,500 –> 00:35:27,300
Scarborough’s.
Pain.

678
00:35:27,300 –> 00:35:30,900
But you also got to think in a
case.

679
00:35:30,900 –> 00:35:35,300
This high-profile, the guy would
probably not cut all those

680
00:35:35,300 –> 00:35:38,900
Corners that he was known for
cutting but you also don’t know

681
00:35:38,900 –> 00:35:40,600
for sure.
I mean if you really want to

682
00:35:40,600 –> 00:35:43,400
talk more about the issue of
autopsy results, medical

683
00:35:43,400 –> 00:35:46,100
examiner’s.
A Coroner’s there is fantastic.

684
00:35:46,100 –> 00:35:48,800
Fantastic episodes of the show
Frontline investigating this.

685
00:35:48,800 –> 00:35:50,900
It’s all death in America and
you watch these.

686
00:35:50,900 –> 00:35:54,300
It’s about generally, I mean,
how your body is treated after

687
00:35:54,300 –> 00:35:57,600
you died, varies wildly from
state to state, Eight.

688
00:35:57,600 –> 00:36:00,200
And I really was a big
eye-opener for me scared the

689
00:36:00,200 –> 00:36:03,100
shit out of me and also the
child cases when they talk about

690
00:36:03,100 –> 00:36:05,900
death investigation for kids.
But those are really amazing.

691
00:36:05,900 –> 00:36:08,400
Centerpieces medical
examination.

692
00:36:08,400 –> 00:36:11,600
This hissed in this country is
obviously people know about this

693
00:36:11,600 –> 00:36:14,500
because all the unprocessed like
rape kit results and stuff like

694
00:36:14,500 –> 00:36:16,800
this.
But labs are not immune to

695
00:36:16,800 –> 00:36:19,500
political pressure, doctors are
not immune to political

696
00:36:19,500 –> 00:36:20,800
pressure.
Why these cases?

697
00:36:20,800 –> 00:36:23,800
They are elected offices, like
in New Orleans, or talking about

698
00:36:23,800 –> 00:36:25,400
lead, death investigation and
things like that.

699
00:36:25,400 –> 00:36:28,300
So yes, if you’re saying, Our
medical results.

700
00:36:28,500 –> 00:36:31,300
Always accurate know, are these
people probably a lot of them

701
00:36:31,300 –> 00:36:32,700
fucked up.
Crazy doctors.

702
00:36:32,700 –> 00:36:34,900
Yeah.
And in this case this guy had

703
00:36:34,900 –> 00:36:38,500
like Ripley’s Believe It or Not
in a storage unit of his old

704
00:36:38,500 –> 00:36:41,600
brains that he hadn’t gone
through, which is disgusting and

705
00:36:41,600 –> 00:36:44,500
disturbing and really sad for
the families of these people

706
00:36:44,500 –> 00:36:46,800
who, you know, really believe
that Justice had been done in

707
00:36:46,800 –> 00:36:49,200
that case but there’s just
hanging on to the shit.

708
00:36:49,200 –> 00:36:52,600
Why is he keeping it?
Well, he claims, he was keeping

709
00:36:52,600 –> 00:36:56,200
it for like it’s actually not
that uncommon for medical

710
00:36:56,200 –> 00:36:59,400
examiner’s to Body parts but
you’re supposed to keep them for

711
00:36:59,400 –> 00:37:01,600
like a year.
And if you need to do any

712
00:37:01,600 –> 00:37:04,600
fucking work on them, in that
time you do it, then this was

713
00:37:04,600 –> 00:37:06,000
year.
Like these were all from

714
00:37:06,000 –> 00:37:08,200
autopsies.
He would have performed in the

715
00:37:08,300 –> 00:37:09,900
in the W.
Right.

716
00:37:09,900 –> 00:37:12,000
We’re talking about.
This was in 2012.

717
00:37:12,000 –> 00:37:14,700
Yeah.
I it’s a weird detail but it

718
00:37:14,700 –> 00:37:19,100
also in no way means that Joe
Scarborough committed murder.

719
00:37:19,200 –> 00:37:20,600
No.
It really doesn’t mean that and

720
00:37:20,600 –> 00:37:22,600
then I will reiterate again,
which is good.

721
00:37:22,600 –> 00:37:24,600
Joe Scarborough was in
Washington, d.c. at the time.

722
00:37:24,600 –> 00:37:27,000
This woman died.
He’s not even in the state.

723
00:37:27,100 –> 00:37:30,200
That’s a really really important
detail.

724
00:37:30,200 –> 00:37:33,700
It would be incredibly difficult
for him to murder or have

725
00:37:33,700 –> 00:37:36,500
murdered a woman who was
apparently alone in the office

726
00:37:36,500 –> 00:37:40,100
when she passed out and died.
So this we point this out and

727
00:37:40,100 –> 00:37:44,000
then you this whole issue of Joe
Scarborough maybe murdered

728
00:37:44,000 –> 00:37:45,800
woman.
You point, this out it’s been

729
00:37:45,800 –> 00:37:48,700
historically more of a talking
point from the left before all

730
00:37:48,700 –> 00:37:53,300
this and it’s something that
Marcos let’s sauce.

731
00:37:53,600 –> 00:37:58,200
So let’s us Daily Coast which
actually Really love for a site

732
00:37:58,200 –> 00:38:01,200
for many years was one of my
go-to, you know, for for the

733
00:38:01,207 –> 00:38:05,200
various, very liberal website,
definitely not a conservative

734
00:38:05,200 –> 00:38:07,500
site than that.
You probably read about George

735
00:38:08,400 –> 00:38:11,100
w– Bush back in the you know,
they are rock warriors and all

736
00:38:11,100 –> 00:38:14,000
that stuff.
And so people were basically

737
00:38:14,000 –> 00:38:16,400
saying that they published an
article called why I’m

738
00:38:16,400 –> 00:38:20,700
blacklisted by MSNBC and this
guy got in a fight with Joe

739
00:38:20,700 –> 00:38:22,800
Scarborough over murder
accusations.

740
00:38:22,900 –> 00:38:26,700
And yeah, basically, Joe
Scarborough went on Twitter and

741
00:38:26,700 –> 00:38:31,700
was complaining about bias media
coverage toward Obama, Obama had

742
00:38:31,700 –> 00:38:34,900
the scandal going at the time
that Joe Scarborough felt the

743
00:38:34,900 –> 00:38:38,700
media wasn’t covering because he
thought the media was bias in

744
00:38:38,700 –> 00:38:44,000
favor of Democrats and Marco
Smule it’ss jumps into that

745
00:38:44,000 –> 00:38:47,100
Twitter thread and says, oh
yeah, well what about the time?

746
00:38:47,100 –> 00:38:51,300
The media crucified Gary Condit
but just ignored your Scandal

747
00:38:51,300 –> 00:38:54,000
all together.
And he wrote this article, he

748
00:38:54,000 –> 00:38:57,600
ended up getting like
blacklisted from MSNBC for A

749
00:38:57,600 –> 00:39:00,800
while, after that.
And this article is still up,

750
00:39:00,800 –> 00:39:04,300
it’s called why I’m why I am
blacklisted by MSNBC.

751
00:39:04,600 –> 00:39:07,800
And that’s why, because in the
middle of this argument, he

752
00:39:07,800 –> 00:39:10,100
threw these murder accusations
out.

753
00:39:10,100 –> 00:39:13,300
And in the article, he’s let go
never accused him of murder.

754
00:39:13,500 –> 00:39:17,300
And it’s like, okay, yeah, but
you’re still bringing up this

755
00:39:17,300 –> 00:39:21,000
thing that has been debunked and
investigated by police.

756
00:39:21,300 –> 00:39:24,700
In questioning why it didn’t get
as much coverage.

757
00:39:24,800 –> 00:39:27,400
And it’s if you look into Gary
Condit, it’s Obvious.

758
00:39:27,400 –> 00:39:30,700
Why it didn’t get as much
coverage Gary Condit lied

759
00:39:30,700 –> 00:39:33,900
repeatedly about his
relationship with that girl

760
00:39:33,900 –> 00:39:37,500
while she was still missing.
Yeah, and also she was missing

761
00:39:37,500 –> 00:39:40,000
this girl was never missing.
Everyone could always account

762
00:39:40,000 –> 00:39:41,600
for where the fuck she was.
Yeah.

763
00:39:41,600 –> 00:39:44,500
If you’re going to murder
someone to cover something up,

764
00:39:44,500 –> 00:39:47,000
you’re not gonna do it in your
fucking office.

765
00:39:47,100 –> 00:39:49,400
Like, that’s insane.
It doesn’t make any sense.

766
00:39:49,400 –> 00:39:51,600
Where do they imagine the Joe
Scarborough was that?

767
00:39:51,600 –> 00:39:54,400
He killed her in his office and
then wasn’t in his office and

768
00:39:54,400 –> 00:39:57,300
then she was there and then he
was never, arrested is The

769
00:39:57,300 –> 00:39:58,100
Imagine.
Yeah.

770
00:39:58,100 –> 00:40:01,300
Or did he pay someone to do it?
That person also wouldn’t do it

771
00:40:01,300 –> 00:40:04,500
in Joe Scarborough’s office.
Where would they be?

772
00:40:04,600 –> 00:40:07,100
If there was happening, there
was a party who is responsible

773
00:40:07,100 –> 00:40:09,300
for the death?
Where was that party?

774
00:40:09,300 –> 00:40:11,100
And why wouldn’t they have not
been arrested?

775
00:40:11,100 –> 00:40:15,000
And also a murder that would
happen the way, people who

776
00:40:15,000 –> 00:40:18,800
believe this Theory want to
believe it happened, which would

777
00:40:18,800 –> 00:40:22,100
be her getting Beat to Death.
There’s going to be blood all

778
00:40:22,100 –> 00:40:25,000
over that fucking room.
Like when you hit someone with

779
00:40:25,000 –> 00:40:29,400
something, it’s going to send
Blood, splatter on to the walls,

780
00:40:29,400 –> 00:40:31,200
like it make noise.
Yeah.

781
00:40:31,300 –> 00:40:34,400
There would be an obvious
difference between seeing

782
00:40:34,400 –> 00:40:37,700
someone who fell and hit their
head and someone who was

783
00:40:37,700 –> 00:40:41,600
murdered and I don’t there is no
evidence that this woman was

784
00:40:41,600 –> 00:40:44,700
murdered.
But it also didn’t stop Michael

785
00:40:44,700 –> 00:40:46,900
Moore.
At one point from launching.

786
00:40:46,900 –> 00:40:49,500
A website called, Joe
Scarborough killed his

787
00:40:49,500 –> 00:40:54,700
intern.com still up, there’s the
bike Hage but it’s still up.

788
00:40:54,700 –> 00:40:59,700
So this has I Gree been debunked
several times.

789
00:40:59,900 –> 00:41:03,400
And yes, there are some weird
details but God damn it.

790
00:41:03,400 –> 00:41:06,300
Joe Scarborough didn’t murder,
this woman know and even

791
00:41:06,300 –> 00:41:07,800
Republicans are talking about
that.

792
00:41:07,800 –> 00:41:10,200
This is a ridiculous assertion
of a rep.

793
00:41:10,500 –> 00:41:13,400
Adam kinzinger, a rose from
Illinois.

794
00:41:13,500 –> 00:41:16,500
He recently tweeted that this is
completely unfounded conspiracy

795
00:41:16,500 –> 00:41:18,500
just stop.
Stop spreading it.

796
00:41:18,500 –> 00:41:20,100
Stop.
Creating paranoia.

797
00:41:20,200 –> 00:41:22,700
It will destroy us.
He’s right about that.

798
00:41:22,700 –> 00:41:26,500
There is I didn’t put it in the
notes, but there was Katherine

799
00:41:26,500 –> 00:41:28,700
Harris.
Us when she was running for, I

800
00:41:28,700 –> 00:41:32,800
think Senate in Florida, there
were rumors that Joe Scarborough

801
00:41:32,800 –> 00:41:35,000
might challenge her for that
seat.

802
00:41:35,000 –> 00:41:37,400
And she immediately called
people in was like, he’s going

803
00:41:37,400 –> 00:41:40,100
to have to answer for these
murder and accusations.

804
00:41:40,400 –> 00:41:42,300
And people are like, nope,
that’s dumb.

805
00:41:42,400 –> 00:41:45,500
And it fucking cost her any
chance of running in that

806
00:41:45,500 –> 00:41:46,800
election.
It just looks stupid.

807
00:41:46,800 –> 00:41:48,900
It floated out even as so Mit
Romney who.

808
00:41:48,900 –> 00:41:50,900
I’m obviously, no fan of.
I mean, he was an okay,

809
00:41:50,900 –> 00:41:52,600
Massachusetts, governor, he was
not bad.

810
00:41:52,600 –> 00:41:56,300
He gave us Healthcare, Mitt,
Romney calls out, vile Donald

811
00:41:56,300 –> 00:41:58,300
Trump.
Positions against quota code,

812
00:41:58,300 –> 00:42:01,200
psycho Joe Scarborough.
It is funny that psycho Joe

813
00:42:01,200 –> 00:42:03,800
Scarborough is becoming like
it’s a nickname, like he’s a

814
00:42:03,800 –> 00:42:07,200
wrestler, a boxer, or he’s like,
don’t call it a comeback cycle.

815
00:42:07,200 –> 00:42:12,000
Joe Scarborough, he says, I know
Joe, Scarborough Joe is a friend

816
00:42:12,000 –> 00:42:14,400
of mine.
I don’t know.

817
00:42:14,600 –> 00:42:19,000
TJ quills, itís cool suit has
I’m so sorry, I really apologize

818
00:42:19,000 –> 00:42:20,700
for the things you do.
I keep saying, well side is it

819
00:42:20,707 –> 00:42:25,400
sounds like a digestive issue
joke and whether vile baseless

820
00:42:25,400 –> 00:42:28,500
accusations, but TJ.
His heart is breaking enough

821
00:42:28,500 –> 00:42:30,200
already.
I like how Joseph help Mit

822
00:42:30,200 –> 00:42:32,400
Romney think there’s a minimum
of murder accusations.

823
00:42:32,400 –> 00:42:33,800
You get throat.
Someone, but you’re like, this

824
00:42:33,800 –> 00:42:36,900
is too much.
Do it once.

825
00:42:37,000 –> 00:42:40,200
Okay, you get one free pass on a
murder accusation but not more

826
00:42:40,200 –> 00:42:42,500
than once.
Yeah.

827
00:42:42,600 –> 00:42:45,100
I feel like there’s just so many
people.

828
00:42:45,200 –> 00:42:48,700
If there was something to this,
there are so many people that

829
00:42:48,700 –> 00:42:52,000
hate Joe Scarborough and they
would be so on board with this,

830
00:42:52,200 –> 00:42:55,400
he’s an agile, he’s a card at
bagging asshole is what he is,

831
00:42:55,500 –> 00:42:57,900
he’s chill.
He’s a shield Stuffed shirt, and

832
00:42:57,900 –> 00:43:00,900
he’s a dickhead and he floated
an tiebacks conspiracies because

833
00:43:00,900 –> 00:43:04,000
his fucking stupid kid was born
1989.

834
00:43:04,100 –> 00:43:07,300
And then develop Asperger’s who
the coal Mogul duty of the

835
00:43:07,300 –> 00:43:10,600
cleanest shoes and 2005, he’s
talking to the Kennedys who also

836
00:43:10,600 –> 00:43:12,700
floated a lot of that
anti-vaxxer garbage.

837
00:43:12,700 –> 00:43:14,900
And he’s like, yeah, my son’s
Arts showing signs that he’s

838
00:43:14,900 –> 00:43:17,100
autistic, and it’s like,
motherfucker, that’s when people

839
00:43:17,100 –> 00:43:19,500
show signs for it.
Yeah, I have this rock keeps

840
00:43:19,500 –> 00:43:20,900
Tigers away.
Do you want it?

841
00:43:20,900 –> 00:43:23,800
You dumb bastard.
And his music sucks.

842
00:43:23,900 –> 00:43:26,300
His music does suck.
Anyway, I’m sorry I’m going to

843
00:43:26,300 –> 00:43:27,900
yell about that.
A minute because it’s the

844
00:43:27,900 –> 00:43:30,800
stupidest shit on the planet.
He’s basically like Jenny

845
00:43:30,800 –> 00:43:31,900
McCarthy.
Yeah.

846
00:43:32,000 –> 00:43:35,900
And this this theory is dumb.
Like there’s like there are some

847
00:43:35,900 –> 00:43:39,300
weird coincidences in this story
and nothing more.

848
00:43:39,300 –> 00:43:41,500
So why do you think all Trump’s
going this way?

849
00:43:41,600 –> 00:43:42,800
Why do you think he’s doing that
though?

850
00:43:42,900 –> 00:43:47,500
Well, every dictator needs to
arrest their political opponents

851
00:43:47,600 –> 00:43:51,800
and I feel like not just this,
but also all the Obama Gates

852
00:43:51,800 –> 00:43:54,300
stuff.
I feel like Trump’s sort of

853
00:43:54,400 –> 00:43:58,000
softening us up for that idea
that hey, Maybe at some point

854
00:43:58,000 –> 00:44:00,700
we’re going to start rounding up
Democrats and throwing them in

855
00:44:00,700 –> 00:44:05,400
prison for the Russia
investigation or for running a

856
00:44:05,400 –> 00:44:11,600
global sex trafficking ring or
for murdering and Aid in 2001.

857
00:44:11,800 –> 00:44:15,300
Like this is what dictators do
its what tyrants do like

858
00:44:15,400 –> 00:44:18,100
actually think.
Yeah he needs to set this

859
00:44:18,100 –> 00:44:22,100
precedent at some point if he’s
going to live all of his Hitler

860
00:44:22,100 –> 00:44:26,000
dreams to fruition like week
there has to be a night of the

861
00:44:26,008 –> 00:44:27,900
Long Knives at.
At some point.

862
00:44:27,900 –> 00:44:30,200
But Scarborough actually did get
an interview that he believes

863
00:44:30,200 –> 00:44:32,400
that Donald Trump is going to
attempt to have journalists

864
00:44:32,400 –> 00:44:34,600
rounded up and arrested.
He said, himself, he that’s

865
00:44:34,600 –> 00:44:38,500
Alicia’s, which is very
concerning as someone who hosts

866
00:44:38,500 –> 00:44:41,000
several podcasts that are very
critical of trump.

867
00:44:41,100 –> 00:44:42,900
Yeah, I think that’s he might be
a murderer.

868
00:44:42,900 –> 00:44:44,300
Not adjust of the eight
abortions.

869
00:44:44,300 –> 00:44:46,700
He paid for.
Yeah, let’s talk about.

870
00:44:47,100 –> 00:44:47,800
Yeah.
Do you hear that?

871
00:44:47,800 –> 00:44:48,800
That’s the newest count.
They think.

872
00:44:48,800 –> 00:44:51,200
They think he might have paid
for up to eight abortions.

873
00:44:51,200 –> 00:44:54,600
That does not surprise me.
One bit the best abortions.

874
00:44:54,600 –> 00:44:58,900
The best abortions in the class
is Apportion gold-plated.

875
00:44:58,900 –> 00:45:02,400
Vacuum something snatch.
Let’s talk about this story of

876
00:45:02,400 –> 00:45:05,100
these three Executives.
I throw this in there.

877
00:45:05,100 –> 00:45:07,100
So I was like, hey, you want to
call someone a murderer?

878
00:45:07,100 –> 00:45:08,800
How about?
I call you a murderer Mabel?

879
00:45:08,800 –> 00:45:10,600
Maybe Donald Trump murdered a
few people.

880
00:45:10,600 –> 00:45:15,300
Did you know that 3 Trump casino
Executives died in a helicopter

881
00:45:15,300 –> 00:45:17,800
crash?
Yeah, I mean that in and of

882
00:45:17,800 –> 00:45:19,900
itself isn’t weird.
People died in helicopter,

883
00:45:19,900 –> 00:45:22,100
crashes all the time.
Shout out to Kobe, Bryant.

884
00:45:22,200 –> 00:45:24,200
We talked about it and I didn’t
even know about it because we

885
00:45:24,200 –> 00:45:26,100
were talking about like,
celebrities that died in a

886
00:45:26,107 –> 00:45:28,000
helicopter crash.
She has and this didn’t come up

887
00:45:28,000 –> 00:45:29,400
at the time because I had no
clue.

888
00:45:29,400 –> 00:45:32,300
You remember that?
Yeah, no, it’s wild and yeah,

889
00:45:32,300 –> 00:45:35,700
these, these three Executives,
they were in charge of a casino

890
00:45:35,700 –> 00:45:39,400
that was losing a ton of money,
and Trump was supposed to be on

891
00:45:39,400 –> 00:45:41,500
this helicopter flight with
them.

892
00:45:41,600 –> 00:45:45,500
But at the last second decided
not to the helicopter ends up

893
00:45:45,500 –> 00:45:50,700
crashing and they find out it’s
because of a manufacturing flaw

894
00:45:51,000 –> 00:45:56,200
where one of the rotors had like
a machine scratch or a tool mark

895
00:45:56,300 –> 00:45:58,800
on it.
And Caused one of the rotors to

896
00:45:58,800 –> 00:46:03,000
be unstable, I guess, and led to
the crash.

897
00:46:03,000 –> 00:46:06,700
But also man, that sounds like a
really easy way to rig a

898
00:46:06,700 –> 00:46:09,300
helicopter to crash.
Yeah, you just scrape it with

899
00:46:09,300 –> 00:46:11,600
the tool.
So we’re going back to October.

900
00:46:11,600 –> 00:46:15,400
10th, 1989, three tribe,
Executives, and two pilots died.

901
00:46:15,400 –> 00:46:18,400
When a helicopter crashed into a
Parkway in median and this

902
00:46:18,400 –> 00:46:21,500
happened around Atlanta City.
And we’re talking about the

903
00:46:21,500 –> 00:46:24,200
Garden State Parkway in Ocean,
County, New Jersey.

904
00:46:24,200 –> 00:46:29,100
So these guys who are they were
Enough hide was 43 and he was

905
00:46:29,100 –> 00:46:31,300
responsible for Trump’s three
Atlantic City, casino

906
00:46:31,300 –> 00:46:35,800
properties, Taj Mahal, top
executive Mark G at is who is 38

907
00:46:35,800 –> 00:46:38,700
and Jonathan.
Banana 33, who is Executive Vice

908
00:46:38,700 –> 00:46:41,600
President of Trump Plaza Hotel
and Casino.

909
00:46:41,600 –> 00:46:44,700
So they with the crafts two
pilots basically imagine you’re

910
00:46:44,700 –> 00:46:48,600
driving on a highway and a
helicopter middle of the day or

911
00:46:48,600 –> 00:46:52,400
morning, crashes into the median
and kills everyone on board, the

912
00:46:52,400 –> 00:46:54,900
could have obviously been much
worse but these were the guys

913
00:46:54,900 –> 00:46:57,500
who are really in control of the
entire Business.

914
00:46:57,600 –> 00:47:01,900
So like when this happened when
ultimately so these Casino

915
00:47:01,900 –> 00:47:05,600
properties closed but even at
back then they were having

916
00:47:05,600 –> 00:47:08,800
issues.
So the Trump Taj Mahal was the

917
00:47:08,800 –> 00:47:11,300
fifth Atlantic City casino to
close in two years.

918
00:47:11,300 –> 00:47:14,400
I mean Atlantic City as a whole,
was really bombing out in these

919
00:47:14,400 –> 00:47:18,800
years in the 2000s and the
Washington Post reported.

920
00:47:18,800 –> 00:47:22,400
This is in, like, in 2016, that
Donald Trump was blaming the

921
00:47:22,400 –> 00:47:24,200
failure of the Taj on those
Dead.

922
00:47:24,200 –> 00:47:26,800
Casino Executives, classy love
it.

923
00:47:26,900 –> 00:47:28,500
It.
So days.

924
00:47:28,500 –> 00:47:31,200
After this occurred, Donald
Trump is obviously tasked with

925
00:47:31,200 –> 00:47:35,400
replacing these dudes and he put
in charge, John Jack O’Donnell.

926
00:47:35,600 –> 00:47:36,900
And he was slighted to fill the
breach.

927
00:47:36,900 –> 00:47:40,500
And at the, at the time of this
crash, he was the chief

928
00:47:40,500 –> 00:47:43,500
operating officer of Trump,
Plaza Hotel and Casino.

929
00:47:43,800 –> 00:47:47,100
You know, obviously someone who
seems capable and perfectly fine

930
00:47:47,100 –> 00:47:49,900
and in audio release from a
2016.

931
00:47:50,000 –> 00:47:53,200
Your post interview Trump
expounded on the choice of Jack

932
00:47:53,200 –> 00:47:55,900
for the presidency of his Empire
only because he was the only one

933
00:47:55,900 –> 00:48:00,400
standing Jack O’Donnell in there
and pretty typical typical Petty

934
00:48:00,400 –> 00:48:02,900
fashion.
Trump also called, O’Donnell a

935
00:48:02,900 –> 00:48:06,700
third-rate executive.
He’s your executive, you hired

936
00:48:06,700 –> 00:48:07,300
him.
You dumb.

937
00:48:07,300 –> 00:48:11,200
Fuck don’t respond in his own
interview with the post, but

938
00:48:11,200 –> 00:48:13,500
upgraded protective video.
He remembers.

939
00:48:13,500 –> 00:48:16,900
Trump having panic in his voice,
but the future of the casinos

940
00:48:16,900 –> 00:48:18,900
before, the executives were laid
to rest.

941
00:48:18,900 –> 00:48:22,000
Donald was beginning to have an
immense amount of pressure from

942
00:48:22,000 –> 00:48:24,400
the bank’s bondholders and
investors.

943
00:48:24,400 –> 00:48:27,400
So before these guys are even in
the ground, he knew The casinos

944
00:48:27,400 –> 00:48:29,700
were fucked but he’s like, oh, I
couldn’t put any one because

945
00:48:29,700 –> 00:48:32,100
everyone fucking died.
It was my fault, right?

946
00:48:32,100 –> 00:48:33,500
Thank you.
But I guess he was also

947
00:48:33,500 –> 00:48:35,800
scheduled to be on the doomed
flight, but decided at the last

948
00:48:35,800 –> 00:48:37,700
minute, he was too busy to leave
New York.

949
00:48:37,700 –> 00:48:40,400
Yeah.
And the the investigation three

950
00:48:40,400 –> 00:48:43,900
years later they found that a
scratch made on the rotor blade

951
00:48:43,900 –> 00:48:48,100
during its manufacture, cause
the helicopter crash so was it

952
00:48:48,100 –> 00:48:50,700
was fatigue failure on the main
rotor blade, though they said it

953
00:48:50,707 –> 00:48:53,800
was manufactured induced but
also did 900 hours of flight

954
00:48:53,800 –> 00:48:59,100
without any issues, right?
So, Maybe maybe Comcast should

955
00:48:59,100 –> 00:49:01,100
investigate that maybe they
should cancel.

956
00:49:01,100 –> 00:49:03,100
I mean, maybe I’ll just find me
in the point.

957
00:49:03,100 –> 00:49:05,000
Just we’re making is, if you
want to throw a murder

958
00:49:05,000 –> 00:49:08,000
investigation accusations, we
get throw up murder accusations

959
00:49:08,000 –> 00:49:10,900
to.
Yeah, he’s I still, I still call

960
00:49:10,900 –> 00:49:15,500
on Comcast to investigate this.
I think it’s a, I think it’s a

961
00:49:15,600 –> 00:49:17,300
sorry, I’m trying to get more
CBS shows.

962
00:49:17,500 –> 00:49:22,600
It’s a Wings issue.
I don’t know the Unicorn to

963
00:49:22,600 –> 00:49:25,700
investigate.
Oh my God, Big Bang Theory.

964
00:49:25,700 –> 00:49:30,100
I want look into It’s a mom of
an issue man.

965
00:49:30,100 –> 00:49:32,800
You’re going to need Two Broke
Girls to get this started.

966
00:49:33,000 –> 00:49:35,700
Jesus.
Sorry, I regret nothing.

967
00:49:36,400 –> 00:49:40,000
Um, so yeah, I think in
conclusion Joe Scarborough

968
00:49:40,000 –> 00:49:42,800
didn’t murder this woman.
No, I don’t think so.

969
00:49:42,900 –> 00:49:47,600
So relax and also, I feel I feel
I feel a bit bad that Joe

970
00:49:47,600 –> 00:49:49,300
Scarborough is going through
this.

971
00:49:49,300 –> 00:49:53,900
I feel much worse for her family
that’s dealing with this because

972
00:49:53,900 –> 00:49:56,000
obviously it’s like, you know,
she’s dead.

973
00:49:56,000 –> 00:49:57,500
It’s bad enough to have And
died.

974
00:49:57,500 –> 00:50:01,300
But then to be used as a prop by
the president, it just makes

975
00:50:01,300 –> 00:50:03,400
everything an extra layer of
disgusting, right?

976
00:50:03,400 –> 00:50:06,800
Yeah, absolutely.
And it I’m interested to see how

977
00:50:06,800 –> 00:50:09,700
it plays out.
I’m interested to see how all of

978
00:50:09,700 –> 00:50:12,500
Trumps accusations are going to
play out.

979
00:50:12,500 –> 00:50:14,300
Do you think they’re going to
take the tweets down Twitter?

980
00:50:14,300 –> 00:50:17,400
No, no.
I mean, I guess the there’s

981
00:50:17,400 –> 00:50:20,700
almost an argument for keeping
them up just to like I don’t

982
00:50:20,700 –> 00:50:23,600
know maybe Joe Scarborough can
sue Trump when he leaves office.

983
00:50:24,000 –> 00:50:26,100
I really just got balls the
balls to kill someone.

984
00:50:26,200 –> 00:50:26,800
I don’t know.
Know.

985
00:50:26,900 –> 00:50:29,100
Nose fucking glasses.
No, I just don’t see him as a

986
00:50:29,107 –> 00:50:33,000
murderer now.
I don’t see him as a murderer.

987
00:50:33,000 –> 00:50:35,800
I just don’t buy it at all.
Yeah, it doesn’t seem like there

988
00:50:35,800 –> 00:50:39,600
was much to be gained here.
It doesn’t seem like she was on

989
00:50:39,600 –> 00:50:41,800
her way to exposing any secrets
about him.

990
00:50:41,800 –> 00:50:43,700
Like, we already knew he was
cheating on his wife.

991
00:50:43,700 –> 00:50:45,500
By this point, he was already
divorced.

992
00:50:45,500 –> 00:50:49,100
Like, yeah, I just also seem to
like, really, like, easy thing

993
00:50:49,100 –> 00:50:52,600
to prove libel wise and Court, I
know I’m not, I’m not legal

994
00:50:52,600 –> 00:50:54,000
expert, you’re not a legal
expert.

995
00:50:54,000 –> 00:50:56,800
I don’t know exactly how libel
law Works in this country.

996
00:50:57,200 –> 00:51:00,900
But I think murderer like in
2017 with Donald Trump.

997
00:51:00,900 –> 00:51:03,900
First tweeted about this, he
didn’t say the word murder, he

998
00:51:03,900 –> 00:51:06,100
didn’t say it at all.
He did say murder and he didn’t

999
00:51:06,100 –> 00:51:07,900
say murderer.
He didn’t say killed.

1000
00:51:07,900 –> 00:51:09,400
He didn’t say anything like
that.

1001
00:51:09,500 –> 00:51:12,500
As time has gone on his
language, has become much more

1002
00:51:12,500 –> 00:51:16,200
harsh in solid insane.
Actual murder, which is, you

1003
00:51:16,200 –> 00:51:19,300
know, there’s he’s not being
vague about it which is what

1004
00:51:19,300 –> 00:51:21,200
which, what’s crazy to me is
that he seems to be doubling

1005
00:51:21,200 –> 00:51:24,000
down on these accusations and
get even more specific with what

1006
00:51:24,000 –> 00:51:25,300
he’s accusing them of.
Yeah.

1007
00:51:25,300 –> 00:51:29,600
And it seems like it’s Saul kind
of funny and not that important.

1008
00:51:29,600 –> 00:51:33,600
But as shit like this, could get
very important over the next few

1009
00:51:33,600 –> 00:51:34,900
months.
Yeah.

1010
00:51:34,900 –> 00:51:38,100
So I mean I think it’s a good
point for it’s a really easy

1011
00:51:38,100 –> 00:51:39,500
thing in case.
So people have been trying to

1012
00:51:39,500 –> 00:51:42,900
get Twitter to, you know, sensor
his tweets or take them down

1013
00:51:42,900 –> 00:51:44,500
people and trying to get that
for a long time because

1014
00:51:44,500 –> 00:51:47,400
obviously they have this policy
of can’t spread misinformation

1015
00:51:47,500 –> 00:51:50,000
but he’s clearly doing that or
to getting banned from Twitter

1016
00:51:50,000 –> 00:51:52,200
all together.
So I think this could be a very

1017
00:51:52,500 –> 00:51:55,700
important milestone in that push
to get him band off Twitter if

1018
00:51:55,700 –> 00:51:56,700
that’s what they’re talking
about.

1019
00:51:57,000 –> 00:51:59,600
He’s also talking about shutting
down Twitter.

1020
00:51:59,600 –> 00:52:01,200
Yeah.
Oh my God, he was things going

1021
00:52:01,200 –> 00:52:02,900
to shut it down, which is so
cute.

1022
00:52:03,000 –> 00:52:05,600
He uses it more than anyone.
Yeah, it’s just a funny.

1023
00:52:05,600 –> 00:52:08,400
How would he govern if Twitter
was shut down?

1024
00:52:08,400 –> 00:52:09,800
What would you do?
I don’t get it at.

1025
00:52:09,900 –> 00:52:12,900
Yeah, so I guess we’ll see where
this story goes.

1026
00:52:12,900 –> 00:52:14,700
Yeah, let’s check it out.
That’s what we got for.

1027
00:52:14,700 –> 00:52:16,600
I mean, I wish it was more
interesting.

1028
00:52:16,600 –> 00:52:20,000
A story to say that like what
interaction Joe Scarborough had

1029
00:52:20,000 –> 00:52:23,300
with this, but wasn’t there
wasn’t involved with this woman.

1030
00:52:23,400 –> 00:52:25,100
It’s a really tragic
circumstance.

1031
00:52:25,100 –> 00:52:28,100
It’s unfortunate for him.
But I mean, if it were

1032
00:52:28,100 –> 00:52:30,600
interesting I would say it’s
interesting but it’s John.

1033
00:52:30,700 –> 00:52:33,400
So yeah, I don’t give a shit
about Joe Scarborough and I

1034
00:52:33,408 –> 00:52:34,700
don’t feel any need to protect
him.

1035
00:52:34,700 –> 00:52:36,500
He’s a blowhard stuff shirt
asshole.

1036
00:52:36,600 –> 00:52:39,400
Yeah, fucking Florida.
Yeah anyplace.

1037
00:52:39,400 –> 00:52:41,300
Terrible.
Music is music sucks.

1038
00:52:41,300 –> 00:52:44,100
He’s XX and his wife at a
bleeding face, whatever.

1039
00:52:45,300 –> 00:52:47,800
That was such a weird thing.
And, yeah, he did KISS child,

1040
00:52:47,800 –> 00:52:49,400
Trump’s acid certain point.
Oh yeah.

1041
00:52:49,400 –> 00:52:51,600
He and Trump used to be really
close this out, which is

1042
00:52:51,600 –> 00:52:53,900
disgusting.
Trump didn’t start pushing this

1043
00:52:53,900 –> 00:52:56,500
until he and Joe Scarborough
fell out.

1044
00:52:56,600 –> 00:52:57,600
Yeah.
But yeah.

1045
00:52:57,700 –> 00:53:00,200
We’ll see where it goes.
In the meantime.

1046
00:53:00,200 –> 00:53:02,400
Do we have anything to plug
before we get out of here?

1047
00:53:02,400 –> 00:53:04,200
No, dude, I have nothing.
I’m not done.

1048
00:53:04,200 –> 00:53:06,000
I’m not like it.
Doing any comedy shows?

1049
00:53:06,000 –> 00:53:09,600
Or Zoom shows I have like one
coming up the end of May, but

1050
00:53:09,600 –> 00:53:11,800
it’s something worth plugging,
like, I’ve been doing no comedy.

1051
00:53:11,800 –> 00:53:14,200
My life is just nothing.
My friends, really, what are you

1052
00:53:14,200 –> 00:53:16,200
doing all day?
I’m like, I’m cleaning and

1053
00:53:16,200 –> 00:53:18,500
playing tennis.
I don’t have any shows coming up

1054
00:53:18,500 –> 00:53:21,700
either but, uh, you can
subscribe to this podcast test.

1055
00:53:21,800 –> 00:53:26,000
Oh my God.
Spira CDOT super cast, dot Tech

1056
00:53:26,000 –> 00:53:29,100
or patreon.
Dot-com on pops dude, please do

1057
00:53:29,100 –> 00:53:31,100
or yeah.
If you need work, if you need

1058
00:53:31,100 –> 00:53:33,900
like work with the kind of stuff
I do or whatever like I don’t

1059
00:53:33,900 –> 00:53:35,500
know I think about it, think
about it.

1060
00:53:35,600 –> 00:53:37,400
All right, let’s get the fuck
out of here.

1061
00:53:37,400 –> 00:53:39,600
Laura say goodbye.
Bye.

1062
00:53:39,700 –> 00:53:41,000
Goodbye everybody.
We love you.

1063
00:53:41,100 –> 00:53:42,300
Joe Scarborough didn’t murder
anyone.