Conspiracy! The Show 141: The Qanon Honeypot

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Hey everybody, Welcome to
conspiracy the show.

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I’m Adam, Todd Brown.
Joining me is co-host.

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Today Olivia, hide Are Back In
The Cut.

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Hi, hello.
Its me, back in the cut again,

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back in the Trap.
Olivia, how’s it going?

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Oh, you know, things are great.
I think in general all around.

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You know, we got arm loonies
storming, the capital we got, we

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still have a Dybbuk that our
government isn’t doing anything

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about so I’d say ten out of ten
so far.

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Yeah.
What a time to be alive here.

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I sit hosting a conspiracy
podcast and cheering for a

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militarized.
Police force to put down the

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citizenry strange times.
Also joining us special guests,

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like Iceberg Slim, who is my
co-host on pod six a podcast

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about the films of Spike Lee and
a musical.

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Sir splice Berg.
How’s it going?

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It’s called on Adam, pretty
good.

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Just I’m actually curious, where
was all this 5G technology?

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You promised that was what the
fuck up?

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Crowds?
No one deployed.

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It exactly what you put a 5 G
lasers.

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Yeah.
Well the problem is that, you

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know the DC cops they used up
all their tear gas and they’re

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rubber bullets and riot control
gear last summer.

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So they could actually just ran
out.

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They just didn’t have any left
for these for these people.

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Storming the Oil.
That is a good question, though.

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I do want to know where that
active denial system is, like,

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of all the places you could, you
could have launched it.

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Yeah, maybe just to be alone,
man, what’s up?

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Absolutely.
It’s in the only lat that’s why

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they couldn’t get into it.
There was like it’s not DC but

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it’s not far from d.c.
Yeah, I’m pretty much all the

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fuckery.
Yeah.

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How’s it feel to be in the in
the heart of it?

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Like I feel like we’re all going
to be in the heart of it at some

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point.
Yeah, very soon once this

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becomes a nationwide thing but
yeah.

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How what were your what were
your thoughts being that close

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to it?
As it was, unraveling its Wick.

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As Baltimore has a kind of a
almost, a strained relationship

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with DC.
As far as like, I guess

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entertainment life or just kind
of like, a lot of people from

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Baltimore, go to d.c. the to
party but not the other way

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around.
So it’s like it’s not be

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controversial, but this may be
the, we have the DMV which is

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DC.
Maryland Virginia.

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We’re not as close as people
think we are as far as like

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maybe close geographically but
we’re so different.

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Yeah, I did a show in Baltimore
a few years ago and I stayed

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with my friend, Nicole, who
lives in DC and I was like, oh

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well, This going to be a quick
drive to, and from the club, no,

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it was still like an hour, which
is pretty pretty far.

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That’s, that’s a geographically
far enough for things to be

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very, very different.
And they did both seem like very

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different places.
Oh, yeah, for a lot of money

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being close to it, now that this
has happened.

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I’m definitely not happy being
close to DC, but I mean if some

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shit goes down, maybe I’ll get
wiped out quick.

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I don’t know.
That’s all we can ever hope.

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Hope for any of us.
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I think that’s.
That’s everyone’s dream

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apocalypse scenario unless
you’re one of these Maniacs.

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Yeah, unless you’re one of these
Maniacs who fantasizes about

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toughing it out in a basement
for four years.

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No, thank yeah, but couldn’t
stand being in a their apartment

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for a month, right?
Yeah, totally.

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What’s up?
Yo survivalists.

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Yeah, you know you know the
thing we’re talking about is

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important because we didn’t
really even have to say what

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we’re talking about.
This week.

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Yeah everyone knows we’re
obviously talking about a bunch

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of it is q and Animaniacs
storming, the Washington

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Capital, the capital of the
government and what were

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specifically talking about is I
can’t help but feel like not

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just with q and on and in recent
years but I’m starting to get

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the sense that white
nationalists or I think it’s

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more like anti-government
extremists like right-wing

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anti-government types have let
themselves get kind of

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honeypotted by the internet and
I feel like q and on is kind of

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the culmination of that and I
described it on the on pops

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podcast that went up yesterday.
As kind of like the mass suicide

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moment for a death cult where
they finally decide.

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Alright, we’re going to pull the
trigger on that thing.

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That is going to lead us to our
Salvation.

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And then you do And oh, no, the
police are shooting Us in the

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chest.
Not as many of us as they

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should.
But yeah, we are being shot at

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in the government is not being
overturned, what now?

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Yeah, and I do think it’s
important to draw a distinction

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early on between because I think
that this is kind of

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factionalism that kind of gets
lost and the, in the National

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discussion were like, we’re
talking about anti-government,

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radical people like the, like
the people who hate, 8, the

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federal government particularly
not like, whereas that is not, I

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don’t think a representative of
the entirety of the far right or

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white nationalist movement,
right?

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Because a lot of them, even if
they profess small-government

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goals or whatever, A lot of them
are totally in favor of the

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government as long as it’s doing
what they want and hurting who

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they want.
Whereas the there is definitely

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also a Either people who are
just flat-out, totally anti

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federal government militia
types, right?

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And I want to make it clear that
I’m not giving the government

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credit for anything here.
Like, I’m definitely not saying

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the American government is some
kind of Savior that is going to

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cure us of the ills of white
nationalism.

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And then stop at that.
I think the government just

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wants to get rid of dissent on
both sides.

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S-sure so happen to be the first
guy to strike that they yeah.

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It was like, I mean, do we have
any doubt that if black lives

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matter protesters did try to
breach the capital that I took

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me exactly what happened?
Oh yeah.

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Like it would have been worse.
I would have been insane.

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Like, I know that’s like that’s
like a cliche now at this point

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to talk about, like, if it were,
if it were black lives matter

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doing this, like how the shoe
would be on the other foot, but

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like, but for real, like we saw
how they reacted, to Generally

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very peaceful protests that only
resulted in small business

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damage and that sort of thing.
Like we saw they reacted to that

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if black lives matter protesters
tried to take the fucking

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Capitol Building, they would a
drone strike.

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People like there would have
been drones in the air for

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months right?
But I think like what happened

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over the summer just emboldened.
The people who storm the capital

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Even more because they have
somehow conflated a peaceful

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protest which here’s the thing.
If you’re one of these people on

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the right who’s like mmmm black
lives matter, they rioted and

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they damaged buildings one.
Like I said on the Pod yesterday

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also if you equate in AutoZone
being burned down with the

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capital being stormed, you’re
just dumb, like it’s not that

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your it’s not just that you’re
wrong, it’s that you’re dumb

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also Whenever there was violence
Lance during those black lives

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matter protests.
What was the story every time?

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The police started it.
The police, for some reason,

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didn’t find it in their hearts
to start it this time.

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Yeah.
And it’s recovery.

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Got say something.
No.

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This is not that kind of
podcast.

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Yeah.
Damn it, go flying from a black

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perspective.
Let me oversimplify.

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It’s almost like, let’s say
America is the current Black

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people are the the ill-treated
black child and then you have

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the spoiled white shout and the
white child, sit back and watch

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the black child, pretty much to
what they think throw Tantrums

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about not being treated fairly.
Then the white perfect white

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child goes out and does
something.

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Now the black Joe look at back
right now how you want to punish

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this white travel call, you
punish us?

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So black people right now really
kind of watching like how this

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kind of unfolds, But Me, Right?
Know how it is.

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But now the world will see.
This is how America operates

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kind of is really embarrassing.
The whole world sees, it’s like

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it’s not a good.
No.

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Yeah, and it really is.
It was it was one of those

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things that really, I think laid
bare for a lot of people who

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were maybe in really deep
denial, kind of laid bare all of

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the foundational lies of this
country that we have been

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brought up on for decades and
decades really kind of exposed a

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lot of that for what it for what
it was.

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Which is you know I guess if
there’s any good outcome that

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that’s one of it.
Yeah yeah I mean people are

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still Still in denial.
Like, I’m not, I’m not an idiot.

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But, like, you know, it’s at
least ice to have it out in the

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open a little bit, but the
world.

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Now sees, I’ll dirty dirty,
dirty, dirty laundry.

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Yeah.
And, and I also want to add, I

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obviously have, like, everything
I’m going to say here is a

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hunch, like I don’t have any
proof of any of this.

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No heart, no hard evidence.
But here’s the thing, bi files.

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If you can find it in your heart
to believe only liberal Elites

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are Alton child sex trafficking,
you can let me do some theater

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of the Mind here with your
theory.

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Also, like, come on and, yeah,
but like, what I think is that

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white nationalists are about to
walk into a trap.

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I think they already did, and I
think it’s going to happen a

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lot.
Like, if we know anything about

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the United States, we know we’re
good at putting down a movement,

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and if you think we’re not asked
the Black Panthers.

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It’s not like we had like one or
two skirts.

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Skirmishes with the Black
Panthers and things, you know,

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just magically went back to how
they were before.

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Like that was a long extended
effort that we spent a lot of

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resources on.
And I think the first thing I

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want to talk about in regards to
all this, is this idea that

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there are two sides to the
American government.

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I don’t think that’s actually
true.

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Like, we get to vote for two
sides and one side or the other,

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feels a little better about the
country.

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Depending on If their side is in
office, but the American

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government has always kind of
had the same goal.

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Like we have one goal at least
since like the 80s.

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Maybe like, well, before that
way, back to the 1900s.

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Like our goal is protecting the
corporate interests.

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That rule our government.
Yeah, that’s the outside

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influence on our government that
we should be most worried about.

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It’s probably the foundational
crisis in this country right now

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is the degree to which we
kowtow.

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How to Corporate America, and
that’s always kind of been the

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thing.
So I feel like the idea that the

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American government would want
to align with Trump supporters

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is kind of silly.
Because you have to think about

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what Trump support like, all the
Trump supporters, who claim,

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they didn’t vote because they’re
super duper racist.

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What are they say?
They voted on trade and foreign

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policy Sanders.
And Trump were very similar when

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it came to trade in foreign
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It’s just Anything else they
were radically different about.

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And like you even saw some of
that with Trump like we want to

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think he really wants war with
Iran, but when it came down to

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it, he just assassinated one guy
and then John Bolton left

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because we wouldn’t drop any
bombs on the around.

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Yeah, like Trump’s whole hawkish
nasai mean like his supposed

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hawkish.
This is as always been kind of

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overstated.
I think the danger of him as a

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Mandarin.
Chief is more that he is an

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impulsive idiot who will just
have.

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There’s always the chance that
he’ll just do something stupid

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that he feels like he wants to
do at that time.

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And that would cause an
international incident more than

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him actually engaging our
military overseas in like a

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tactical maneuver, which has
been pretty low, especially

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compared to our past two
administrations.

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Yeah, he has like, not engaged
us in a bunch of wars.

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And here’s the thing.
Since When does a miracle of

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that?
Like, and I’m not talking about

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us, I’m not talking about rainy
and you and slice Berg.

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And the people listening to this
podcast, I mean, the American

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government like, since when do
we not want to be at War?

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We spend so much money on
defense and the people who get

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that money and spend that money
and the corporations that help

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us fight those Wars.
They’re not just going to put

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their fucking hands up because
Trump is in office.

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If you voted for Trump, you have
to Realize it’s not going to be

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that easy, like, what American
president has ever come in and

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really change things without
like, getting shot in the head

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like JFK.
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And even he didn’t change like a
ton.

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Yeah.
Johnson signed the Civil Rights

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Act Right into law.
So but so I think that’s you at

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least understand that’s that’s
the point of reference I’m

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working from which is I don’t
really believe there are two

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distinct sides to the Government
that both want radically

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different things.
Yeah, I think, I think it’s a

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fair assessment to say that we
have a far-right party in this

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country in the Republicans.
And we have a conservative party

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in the Democrats who has a
burgeoning progressive Wing, but

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still basically serving the same
Masters just through a less

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extremist lens.
Fulfilling the same basic goal

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of the Republicans, as Of of
days passed before they kind of

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went off the cliff, right?
And the other thing you have to

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keep in mind that people on the
far, right, especially our super

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afraid of is government
intrusion into people’s lives.

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And if you think the American
government’s going to give that

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shit up, you you must have
missed 911.

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Like we seize every opportunity
to intrude into average citizens

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lives like the FBI can look up
your browser history without a

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warrant.
Now oh yeah we know the NSA can

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just intercept phone calls like
we know all the things these

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people are capable of and
they’re they’re doing it.

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So they’re not going to like let
Trump and his supporters come in

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office and be like, okay yeah
you got to get rid of all that

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we can’t, we can’t be getting
into people’s lives in this

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manner.
There’s no fucking way.

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But again this kind of goes back
to what I was saying about the

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difference between the
anti-government types and a lot

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of the and a lot of the other
guys is I think there’s a

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there’s a A large group of them
that don’t care that the

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government is spying on people
because they think that the

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government likes them and
they’re just spying on the

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people that they don’t like,
like, and and getting them for

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things and not, not going after
the Trump supporters and then

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that certain people.
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And I think that speaks to the
naivety of Trumps.

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Absolutely, yeah.
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Anyone in this country who
thinks the American government

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is really working in their
favor, you’re rich.

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If you’re not rich, There is
absolutely no way you should

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feel that way.
Like, there’s no evidence that

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proves it.
Like, there’s nothing to suggest

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that the American government
really has the best interest of

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the, the little guy in mind.
We are beholding to corporations

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and profits.
The only evidence that they want

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or need is that the government
hurts people that they hate and

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that’s, that’s good at, that’s
close enough to helping them for

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her for them like that.
That’s, you know, the best They

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can do for what changes.
Now, now that they see,

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actually, I’m a little concerned
about the some of the police who

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helped doing diem situation.
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Those are the ones who like, if
this happens again, where do

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they stand now?
Will be no, the to put the

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police are divided.
Maybe somewhere against it may

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be a couple, but a lot might
have been in favor, what

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happened?
Yeah, his way while they helped

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a little bit.
Yeah, that’s that’s been my

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concern for ever and ever.
Like I’ve, every time I’ve said

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Trump won’t leave office
peacefully.

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I followed It Up by saying,
we’re going to hit a point where

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we have to hope the police in
the military do the right thing.

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And I feel like a lot of trump
supporters and especially these

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Q&A on idiots who storm the
capital, have it in their head

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that a really significant
portion of the military and

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police are on their side and I
feel like they’re wrong.

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I feel like they’re being set up
to test that.

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That theory because you’re
already like is the FBI not

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arresting people like there are
people already on no fly lists.

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There’s video on Twitter of a
guy crying in the airport

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because all he did was storm the
capital and now they’re calling

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him a terrorist and he can’t
fly.

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It’s like you’ve dumbass getting
a small taste of what it’s been

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like to be an Arab since 9/11
and Even if the police didn’t

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shoot as many people, as we
wish, this isn’t going well for

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the people who did it, but it’s
also not going as poorly as it

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could have.
True.

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Not me, I’m not the devil.
Not the try again.

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Or is this enough, this?
Yeah, that’s the thing.

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I think that I think if
anything, they all they feel

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emboldened by this.
And that’s the thing, I think, I

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think that big confrontation is
what the government wants.

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And that’s kind of like the
whole point of this, because,

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And if you think about it in the
big picture sense one this is a

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problem we’ve been dealing with,
I mean forever, but at least

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like in the public eye, since
the early 90s which that’s 30

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plus years that we’ve had I
don’t think they want a little

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bit.
Let them think this is a small

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victory for now kinda but I can
do it again.

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I’ve been cracked down hard
because what’s what’s happening?

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Now we went from a summer of
people on the left being like

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why can’t the cops?
Stop shooting people and now

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even though they’re very
different things.

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Now, a lot of us are like why
didn’t the cops shoot more

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people?
Yeah, I saw a lot of that but I

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feel like if this happens again,
if you’re the government and you

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want to draw these
anti-government types out, these

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people who think they are bold
enough and armed enough to

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actually take on the federal
government, you got to let them

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try it.
Once you got to let them try it

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once and you got to Shoot one of
them once just to let them know

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and now they think well we got
in and only one of us died and

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like most of the casualties were
on their side.

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So right.
So so we can save it.

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I’m sorry, like it is, never
mind.

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This is a war they lost like,
like I said, maybe one or two of

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their Soldier, so this is kind
of success on their mind, and

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their part.
So let’s, let’s go bigger next

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time.
There were people quoted on the

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way out walking, past cops
saying you didn’t take it, we

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gave it back.
It’s like yeah, that’s kind of

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true, because you’re a bunch of
remote control sheep with

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Trump’s finger on the button and
he put out a video and said go

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home.
So you went home like a bunch of

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bootlicking government idiots.
Yeah, yeah, sure.

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They did just fully go home.
It is.

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It’s just so just as a quick
sidebar, I don’t want to be

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really thick but it is extremely
funny.

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And telling to me that they had
no Plan for once.

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They got inside the building,
like, they didn’t do anything.

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They just kind of took selfie.
That’s actually an, that’s

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cranks.
That’s actually not.

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It does, it seems like that’s
not entirely true.

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Because there, there were the
people with the zip ties, like

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they found bombs, I think they
had, I think they had ideas

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right things that they wanted to
do, but like he didn’t use those

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zip ties.
Really like, you know, like they

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could have easily taken
hostages, even if they weren’t

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congresspeople.
Well, they could have easily

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made demands even if they were
just holding the room but they

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did.
Did they all have demands

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because they don’t have any
needs?

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They don’t really have it once
or or or actual like policy.

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They just wanted to fuck around.
It felt like a video game like

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the once they get in the game
was over and they won.

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Yes.
Yeah.

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I got in the castle.
It’s over.

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Yeah, I did here at one point
that when that first crowd went

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in if they went A different way.
They would have gotten into the

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Senate chamber while people were
there and then we have no idea.

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But as chat wild pointed out on
the on pops podcast this week,

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for some reason, they got in the
capital and then started

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following all the Velvet ropes
and shit.

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It’s like you can take.
You just bash it with the

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police.
Why don’t you just take the take

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the Velvet ropes down and spread
out a little bit?

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You’ve got a special double rope
that respect for morons.

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Who have no like agency.
They just said they just do what

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they’re told.
Yeah this is just an IU Trump

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say watch the Rope.
Don’t touch the Velvet Rope.

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Yeah maybe it sounds like Trump
Enterprises on it or something.

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The Rope is implied Authority.
Yes like they just so they just

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follow it because they are used
to following Authority.

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It’s just so like they did that.
There was also that one of the

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most striking Videos of the
whole time that I found.

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So, fascinating was the video of
the sole singular Capitol Hill

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cop holding on, like, holding a
stairwell as like a whole Mob of

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the guys who eventually made it
into the Senate chambers, like,

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kind of slowly charged him but
like, it was just one guy they

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could have just gone around him
or he could have, like, shot

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them.
But he didn’t do that, and they

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didn’t do, it was just a very
odd standoff, that really, it

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was just like, he didn’t want to
escalate on his side for some

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reason, because now cops don’t
like to escalate.

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And then they were just like so
cowed by his authority while

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also still wanting to make their
stand, it was just very

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fascinating.
I don’t really have anywhere I’m

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going with.
I just found that to be such a

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interesting video for one.
Are we sure that guy had a A

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gun.
I don’t know if all the Capitol

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Police had guns because he kept
pulling a bunt on like if he had

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a gun I feel because he pulled a
baton and didn’t hit him.

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Like if you’re going to pull a
weapon and not use it, you pull

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your gun obviously and don’t
have any intention to shoot,

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which is good gun safety.
Yeah, but then you’re being a

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shitty cop.
Like, at that point, I think

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that moment also kind of speak
To the feeling.

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I think a lot of people in that
Capital had, where are we really

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doing this?
Yeah, like is this actually

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working?
Yeah.

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Absolutely.
I don’t think they planned on

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getting in.
No, I got an idea here.

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Okay, give it three months.
Open the capital back up, put a

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velvet ropes outside.
The Shriver say Riders, enter

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here, and have ropes and signs
throughout the capital.

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Directing them to one room
because they want to follow it.

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Just have a bunch of Of soldiers
in there with guns ready.

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When they go into this room,
that’s just going to follow the

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directions and just have the
little signs and shit.

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They’ll go right hand bam.
Yeah it might it might work.

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I mean yeah people are real
worried about security at

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Biden’s inauguration but I think
maybe velvet ropes might be the

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just put some velvet ropes up
around Biden and no one no, no,

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get close to him.
Yeah, just put up a red carpet

433
00:25:15,800 –> 00:25:21,800
that leads to one of those
machine gun mounted Nissan’s

434
00:25:21,800 –> 00:25:25,800
that explode after they kill
their Like, oh my God.

435
00:25:25,800 –> 00:25:29,200
Yeah, like Israel used to take
out that Iranian nuclear

436
00:25:29,200 –> 00:25:31,700
scientist.
One of my favorite stories,

437
00:25:31,700 –> 00:25:33,600
2020.
That was said he died.

438
00:25:33,600 –> 00:25:37,200
I felt like that was like
assassination is bad but oh man

439
00:25:37,400 –> 00:25:39,200
to do it.
That car was insane.

440
00:25:39,200 –> 00:25:44,800
Breaking Bad fashion, I love it.
Yeah so I actually think this in

441
00:25:44,800 –> 00:25:49,300
my dream version of this I think
this is a plan that probably

442
00:25:49,300 –> 00:25:53,800
started as soon as the internet
started because we had like, if

443
00:25:53,800 –> 00:25:56,800
you flash back to the early 90s
two things happen, right?

444
00:25:56,800 –> 00:26:00,300
At the beginning of the decade,
the internet becomes a thing

445
00:26:00,300 –> 00:26:03,800
that people can use like the
first internet message.

446
00:26:03,800 –> 00:26:08,800
Boards were operational by like
89 90 and immediately

447
00:26:09,000 –> 00:26:12,300
anti-government types start
using the internet to spread

448
00:26:12,300 –> 00:26:15,400
their message.
And it seems like that would be

449
00:26:15,400 –> 00:26:19,700
a downside for the government.
But of course, it’s not because

450
00:26:19,700 –> 00:26:23,400
the internet reminder started as
a government thing, like, that

451
00:26:23,400 –> 00:26:25,900
was a government.
That Network that the government

452
00:26:25,900 –> 00:26:29,700
used to keep people connected
and then at one point the

453
00:26:29,700 –> 00:26:32,300
government was just like, here
you go.

454
00:26:32,400 –> 00:26:34,900
And we were all like, okay we’ll
take it.

455
00:26:34,900 –> 00:26:39,300
The seems fun and I’ll Gordo.
Yeah, they gave them the tools

456
00:26:39,300 –> 00:26:42,100
to you, say it permits, they
gave them the tools to do this

457
00:26:42,100 –> 00:26:44,900
with and just much.
I would argue the chemicals on a

458
00:26:44,900 –> 00:26:47,000
building.
This they built and what they

459
00:26:47,000 –> 00:26:48,600
thought they were billed with
the with it will be.

460
00:26:48,600 –> 00:26:51,000
Gave them pretty much.
Yeah, I would argue the

461
00:26:51,000 –> 00:26:54,000
government has been giving us
the tools to spy on us.

462
00:26:54,100 –> 00:26:57,300
Ourselves.
Since at least this moment, like

463
00:26:57,300 –> 00:27:00,500
once they were like, once they
slid the internet across the

464
00:27:00,500 –> 00:27:03,900
table, we were done.
Like from a surveillance

465
00:27:03,900 –> 00:27:07,700
standpoint, we were done really,
we never should have taken it.

466
00:27:07,700 –> 00:27:10,800
Like anything that’s getting
slid across the table like that,

467
00:27:10,800 –> 00:27:12,900
you know, it’s Shady.
Don’t want to take that.

468
00:27:12,900 –> 00:27:15,600
It’s not worth it.
The craziest part is we went

469
00:27:15,600 –> 00:27:19,100
into it with this sense of oh
man, the Internet.

470
00:27:19,100 –> 00:27:22,500
It’s the wild west, baby.
There’s no laws you can get on

471
00:27:22,500 –> 00:27:24,000
there.
You can do it.

472
00:27:24,200 –> 00:27:26,000
You want.
But the problem is that meant

473
00:27:26,000 –> 00:27:28,300
the government didn’t really
have any laws either.

474
00:27:28,400 –> 00:27:32,200
Yeah it took a while to figure
that one out like yeah we were

475
00:27:32,200 –> 00:27:34,800
so dumb about it.
Like even up to when Facebook

476
00:27:34,800 –> 00:27:37,800
was a thing they were people
like posting themselves like

477
00:27:37,800 –> 00:27:40,900
doing beer bongs at 3:00 in the
morning before they have to go

478
00:27:40,900 –> 00:27:43,700
to work the next day and they’re
like well you’re fired now

479
00:27:43,800 –> 00:27:46,200
you’re being you’re being shitty
employee and they’re like you

480
00:27:46,200 –> 00:27:49,700
can’t look at my Facebook it’s
like yeah everyone can.

481
00:27:50,300 –> 00:27:53,500
Yeah kind of the whole problem.
All right but also like it’s

482
00:27:53,500 –> 00:27:56,100
cool that They can monitor
people but also they had to

483
00:27:56,100 –> 00:27:59,400
figure out.
Well, what about the actual what

484
00:27:59,400 –> 00:28:00,500
it is?
It’s great.

485
00:28:02,800 –> 00:28:04,900
But they, I feel like they also
had to figure out.

486
00:28:04,900 –> 00:28:07,400
Well, how do we stop the
information?

487
00:28:07,400 –> 00:28:09,900
We don’t want to be spread from
spreading.

488
00:28:10,000 –> 00:28:13,700
You can’t take on every incident
by itself.

489
00:28:13,800 –> 00:28:17,400
And I think what happened and I
feel like there is actually some

490
00:28:17,400 –> 00:28:21,700
kind of like, MKUltra
documentation to this effect.

491
00:28:21,700 –> 00:28:24,800
I feel like the government may
be kind of Started the

492
00:28:24,800 –> 00:28:28,700
conspiracy theory industry that
popped up in the early 90s

493
00:28:28,800 –> 00:28:32,700
because then it works the same
way as tabloids The National

494
00:28:32,700 –> 00:28:36,700
Enquirer Prince, a bunch of
bullshit stories but sometimes

495
00:28:36,700 –> 00:28:40,300
their stories are real stories
that people took to actual

496
00:28:40,300 –> 00:28:43,800
outlets and those Outlets were
like, we can’t fucking run this.

497
00:28:43,800 –> 00:28:45,900
We have advertisers to think
about.

498
00:28:46,000 –> 00:28:48,500
And then the National Enquirer
is like, we don’t, and they’ll

499
00:28:48,500 –> 00:28:50,400
fucking right.
I’m ready to notice.

500
00:28:50,400 –> 00:28:52,500
You wrote that you sent me.
That’s pretty genius.

501
00:28:52,500 –> 00:28:54,000
I think I’m going to start make
it last.

502
00:28:54,100 –> 00:28:56,500
About myself like that, that
way.

503
00:28:56,800 –> 00:29:00,100
None of, that’s true.
Yeah, but they don’t cause a

504
00:29:00,108 –> 00:29:02,000
wild shit that I’ve never done
that way.

505
00:29:02,000 –> 00:29:04,000
Who knows?
Yeah, there you go.

506
00:29:04,000 –> 00:29:05,300
You heard.
What about me?

507
00:29:05,400 –> 00:29:07,400
Did you hear it from The
Washington Post?

508
00:29:07,500 –> 00:29:10,700
Then it’s a conspiracy theory
that is literally the Trump

509
00:29:10,700 –> 00:29:12,700
Playbook like that.
Yeah.

510
00:29:13,000 –> 00:29:15,900
Just just tell as many lies as
you possibly can and then

511
00:29:15,900 –> 00:29:18,100
eventually people will start
believing them.

512
00:29:18,300 –> 00:29:20,700
It’s actually a brilliant
strategy.

513
00:29:20,900 –> 00:29:24,500
I know so many people who are
very, very skeptical of Elected

514
00:29:24,500 –> 00:29:29,200
officials but also their they’ll
hear like a scandal mentioned

515
00:29:29,200 –> 00:29:32,600
and they’ll be like, well, the
government denied it and it’s

516
00:29:32,600 –> 00:29:35,200
like, well yeah, the government
denied it.

517
00:29:35,200 –> 00:29:38,000
They’re not like, what evidence
are you waiting on?

518
00:29:38,000 –> 00:29:42,000
That isn’t the evidence you’ve
had presented to you already.

519
00:29:42,100 –> 00:29:43,700
I hate that.
Sound was someone says someone

520
00:29:43,700 –> 00:29:47,200
did not like, has anyone ever
said, you know what I did kill

521
00:29:47,200 –> 00:29:48,900
those perfect person.
You got me?

522
00:29:49,200 –> 00:29:51,700
No one ever does that.
Everyone always says, yeah, I

523
00:29:51,708 –> 00:29:52,900
didn’t do that shit.
Yeah.

524
00:29:52,900 –> 00:29:55,300
Who wouldn’t?
Yeah, I wouldn’t.

525
00:29:55,300 –> 00:29:58,300
And so, yeah, like we kind of
had two choices.

526
00:29:58,300 –> 00:30:00,800
When the internet started, we
could either do that, we could

527
00:30:00,800 –> 00:30:03,600
either discredit anyone who
breaks from the official

528
00:30:03,600 –> 00:30:07,000
government line as conspiracy
theorists, or you do what China

529
00:30:07,000 –> 00:30:10,300
does and start cracking skulls
of people Google the wrong

530
00:30:10,300 –> 00:30:12,600
thing.
And that’s not us like, we don’t

531
00:30:12,600 –> 00:30:14,700
do that.
We’re good guys.

532
00:30:15,000 –> 00:30:18,500
Yeah, I mean it’s similar to I
mean, you know, it’s kind of the

533
00:30:18,500 –> 00:30:23,800
same Playbook is the as the UFO,
you know, Project Blue Book.

534
00:30:23,800 –> 00:30:26,900
And Denial things which we’ve
talked about on the podcast

535
00:30:26,900 –> 00:30:29,800
before.
Like it is you know they go out

536
00:30:29,800 –> 00:30:33,100
and they and they say this isn’t
real, this is a real and then

537
00:30:33,100 –> 00:30:36,200
they put out a bunch of things
like, you know, it’s aliens.

538
00:30:36,200 –> 00:30:38,700
It’s all this stuff but really
they’re testing like

539
00:30:38,700 –> 00:30:40,900
experimental aircraft or some
shit.

540
00:30:41,300 –> 00:30:43,900
Yeah, it’s a classic classic
tactic.

541
00:30:44,000 –> 00:30:47,800
Yeah, there’s a God damn it.
I always forget the name of the

542
00:30:47,800 –> 00:30:51,800
documentary, but we did an
episode about it.

543
00:30:51,900 –> 00:30:55,800
It’s about a guy named rich.
Richard Doty documentary is

544
00:30:55,808 –> 00:30:58,300
called Mirage Men.
That was just, that was his

545
00:30:58,300 –> 00:31:02,400
actual job when someone would in
this was like when people were

546
00:31:02,400 –> 00:31:06,600
doing it in magazines and shit,
like, if someone presented

547
00:31:06,600 –> 00:31:10,100
information that they thought
exposed a government plot or

548
00:31:10,100 –> 00:31:12,400
something, the government was
working on.

549
00:31:12,600 –> 00:31:15,800
If it was an actual thing, the
government wanted to cover up,

550
00:31:15,900 –> 00:31:17,400
they would send that guy out to
be.

551
00:31:17,400 –> 00:31:20,900
Like you’re right, you don’t
know, you don’t understand how

552
00:31:20,900 –> 00:31:22,800
right you are.
You’re so right.

553
00:31:22,900 –> 00:31:26,500
I’m going to give you more Our
information that proves even

554
00:31:26,500 –> 00:31:30,600
more how right you are and that
would all be bullshit and they

555
00:31:30,600 –> 00:31:33,700
would publish that and people
would be like you fucking liar.

556
00:31:34,400 –> 00:31:36,300
No.
How can we ever believe anything

557
00:31:36,300 –> 00:31:39,900
you ever say again that was his
whole job was going out and

558
00:31:39,900 –> 00:31:43,100
doing that to people.
So it’s not a stretch to think

559
00:31:43,100 –> 00:31:47,100
the government would try to kind
of put that same thing in place

560
00:31:47,300 –> 00:31:51,200
for the entire internet.
And like the early 90s that

561
00:31:51,200 –> 00:31:53,900
that’s also when conspiracy
theories.

562
00:31:54,000 –> 00:31:58,100
Really started being not really
a mainstream thing but when they

563
00:31:58,100 –> 00:32:02,700
started becoming really popular.
And so now, if you’re the

564
00:32:02,700 –> 00:32:07,000
government, you have conspiracy
theories, you have the Internet,

565
00:32:07,000 –> 00:32:09,900
it’s a place to spread them.
One thing you could do that, I

566
00:32:09,900 –> 00:32:15,000
think they did do is you can put
people into that Community to

567
00:32:15,000 –> 00:32:19,600
also discredit that community.
And one of the exactly examples

568
00:32:19,600 –> 00:32:22,600
of that, there’s a conspiracy
theorist named Bill Cooper.

569
00:32:22,600 –> 00:32:27,500
Who was like, if I Die the
Freemasons did it and he got

570
00:32:27,500 –> 00:32:32,600
like shot and killed two years
later, one of his early like not

571
00:32:32,600 –> 00:32:36,300
early but one of the things he
always brought up was when Alex

572
00:32:36,300 –> 00:32:39,100
Jones first started surfacing,
he was like.

573
00:32:39,100 –> 00:32:43,100
That guy is a government plan.
That guy is here to make the

574
00:32:43,100 –> 00:32:46,000
rest of us.
Look bad and someday.

575
00:32:46,000 –> 00:32:49,000
I’m going to do that.
Bill Hicks, Alex Jones episode

576
00:32:49,000 –> 00:32:52,200
of my dreams because I feel like
there’s more to that theory than

577
00:32:52,200 –> 00:32:56,200
people give it credit for But
anyway, well, I do want to say,

578
00:32:56,200 –> 00:32:59,000
I think, I think part of the
difference though, and I think

579
00:32:59,000 –> 00:33:01,400
something that does need to be
said, is that, I don’t

580
00:33:01,400 –> 00:33:06,300
necessarily know that the
government needed to, even be

581
00:33:06,300 –> 00:33:10,000
involved in the creation of any
of these conspiracy theories or

582
00:33:10,000 –> 00:33:14,600
anything, just due to the nature
of the internet as a place where

583
00:33:14,900 –> 00:33:18,600
so many people can go and say
whatever the fuck they want.

584
00:33:19,200 –> 00:33:22,600
I think they could just you know
they can easily just rely on

585
00:33:22,700 –> 00:33:27,600
someone else.
Saying that, and letting that do

586
00:33:27,600 –> 00:33:30,400
it letting other people do their
job for them in that way.

587
00:33:30,600 –> 00:33:33,400
I would agree with that if it
weren’t for George h.w.

588
00:33:33,400 –> 00:33:37,800
Bush, because we’re sure one of
the things that really sets The

589
00:33:37,800 –> 00:33:43,600
Conspiracy Theory crowd off is
the New World Order and the new

590
00:33:43,600 –> 00:33:47,700
world order was a conspiracy
theory that was limited to

591
00:33:47,900 –> 00:33:52,600
really militaristic extremist
right-wing groups, like

592
00:33:52,600 –> 00:33:56,100
anti-government groups, Not even
necessarily racist but

593
00:33:56,100 –> 00:33:58,900
anti-government groups who were
worried about the government

594
00:33:58,900 –> 00:34:03,900
encroaching on our freedoms and
it was limited to them at first.

595
00:34:04,000 –> 00:34:08,500
And then in the early 90s,
George Bush, gives this speech

596
00:34:08,600 –> 00:34:12,100
that has come to be known as the
New World Order speech where

597
00:34:12,100 –> 00:34:16,199
he’s like, we’re entering a new
world order and he’s like,

598
00:34:16,199 –> 00:34:19,800
hinting at all this like, one
world government shit and it’s

599
00:34:19,800 –> 00:34:23,300
wait, wait, what year was that
again, that was 1990 know that,

600
00:34:23,300 –> 00:34:26,000
that same.
Your desk when hip-hop started

601
00:34:26,000 –> 00:34:30,199
to go towards.
A lot of conscious rappers that

602
00:34:30,199 –> 00:34:32,800
speech was like that’s Bridges
and so many rap songs,

603
00:34:33,100 –> 00:34:35,600
especially out of Wu-Tang shit.
Like they started to talk about,

604
00:34:35,600 –> 00:34:38,300
you know, new world order.
It got into rap pretty quick and

605
00:34:38,300 –> 00:34:41,100
that’s a lot of mation about
that spread to pretty quickly.

606
00:34:41,300 –> 00:34:45,900
Yeah, it’s almost as if they
kind of wanted to rile people up

607
00:34:45,900 –> 00:34:51,100
a little bit because also 1990
the year storm front dot-org

608
00:34:51,100 –> 00:34:53,800
goes online.
It started as just like in

609
00:34:54,000 –> 00:34:58,700
Internet bulletin board, but it
has been online since 1992

610
00:34:58,900 –> 00:35:01,700
immediately.
The government had to be like,

611
00:35:01,700 –> 00:35:02,700
all right.
Well, they’re using the

612
00:35:02,700 –> 00:35:03,900
internet.
Of course.

613
00:35:03,900 –> 00:35:06,900
Thank you, that’s great.
Now how do we get them talk and

614
00:35:06,900 –> 00:35:09,200
more?
Yeah, George Bush gives a new

615
00:35:09,200 –> 00:35:14,400
world order speech and then Pat
Robertson in 1991.

616
00:35:14,400 –> 00:35:18,500
The 700 Club guy writes, a book
called The New World Order,

617
00:35:18,600 –> 00:35:22,500
that’s how the religious right.
Got I think in delved in this.

618
00:35:22,700 –> 00:35:28,100
And he’s like look Jin’s the
government wants to make you all

619
00:35:28,100 –> 00:35:30,200
Communists.
They want a One World

620
00:35:30,200 –> 00:35:33,900
Government, a one world police
force and they’re coming to take

621
00:35:33,900 –> 00:35:37,100
your guns.
And so now the entire conspiracy

622
00:35:37,100 –> 00:35:39,100
crowd is like, shit, they’re
coming.

623
00:35:40,100 –> 00:35:43,900
I just would like to say to any
of our overlords who are

624
00:35:43,900 –> 00:35:49,000
monitoring this podcast that I
think the One World Government

625
00:35:49,000 –> 00:35:51,400
new or New World Order that, I
think that sounds like a great

626
00:35:51,400 –> 00:35:53,800
idea.
I just, I’m 100%.

627
00:35:54,000 –> 00:35:55,500
For it.
Just one government.

628
00:35:55,500 –> 00:35:57,300
That’s it.
That’s all we need.

629
00:35:57,300 –> 00:35:59,500
That’ll be great.
Go, go team.

630
00:35:59,500 –> 00:36:02,200
If that’s what it is, go on, I’m
for it.

631
00:36:02,200 –> 00:36:05,300
Yeah, I think the New World
Order and the Illuminati both.

632
00:36:05,300 –> 00:36:11,600
At this point, our American
intelligence psyops meant to

633
00:36:11,600 –> 00:36:15,200
identify people who are about
it, prone to questioning the

634
00:36:15,200 –> 00:36:17,500
government.
Yeah, the Illuminati thing is

635
00:36:17,500 –> 00:36:21,000
just like there’s just no way
that one is just way too

636
00:36:21,000 –> 00:36:23,800
Fantastical for for it to be
even close.

637
00:36:24,000 –> 00:36:26,800
Too real.
It’s just like its way to its

638
00:36:26,800 –> 00:36:29,600
way to fun.
Like you can’t really you can’t

639
00:36:29,600 –> 00:36:34,200
like there’s no way that our
actual ruling conspiracy is so

640
00:36:34,200 –> 00:36:36,600
much fun.
There’s not parties, there’s not

641
00:36:36,600 –> 00:36:38,500
robes.
There’s not like you know,

642
00:36:38,500 –> 00:36:41,100
secret handshakes just shit.
That’s just way too good of a

643
00:36:41,100 –> 00:36:42,300
time.
Yeah.

644
00:36:44,000 –> 00:36:45,300
Yeah.
I mean if it is true I still

645
00:36:45,300 –> 00:36:47,500
want in like oh no.
Absolutely.

646
00:36:47,500 –> 00:36:51,400
Like I said, what about a great
idea?

647
00:36:51,700 –> 00:36:55,100
I mean only if I get to before
it if I Get to be Illuminati,

648
00:36:55,100 –> 00:36:59,700
it’s a great idea.
Yeah, I be difficult if I, if I

649
00:37:03,300 –> 00:37:06,800
if I if I’m getting crushed
under the thumb of un tyranny,

650
00:37:06,800 –> 00:37:13,000
the no, I want no part of it.
I will never understand how the

651
00:37:13,000 –> 00:37:16,500
government convince groups like
this, to use the internet.

652
00:37:16,600 –> 00:37:18,900
Like, how would you not be
suspicious of that?

653
00:37:18,900 –> 00:37:21,600
It like, this is the part.
I can’t explain.

654
00:37:21,700 –> 00:37:25,000
I mean, I didn’t.
I just think that The Internet

655
00:37:25,000 –> 00:37:29,500
is just such as self-evidently
powerful Communications tool

656
00:37:29,700 –> 00:37:33,300
that almost any group of people
who are spread out around across

657
00:37:33,300 –> 00:37:36,400
the country, or the globe are
going to be tripping over

658
00:37:36,400 –> 00:37:39,100
themselves, to want to use
something like that.

659
00:37:39,200 –> 00:37:42,200
Even if it’s being monitored,
even if they know it’s like,

660
00:37:42,300 –> 00:37:44,900
people know that it has being
monitored now.

661
00:37:45,300 –> 00:37:48,400
And they still love using it.
I use it, I use it every day old

662
00:37:48,400 –> 00:37:51,800
time, but like, and I know that
it’s like it.

663
00:37:51,800 –> 00:37:53,800
It’s got this deep dark
underbelly.

664
00:37:53,900 –> 00:37:55,900
Ellie and that it’s being
monitored and shit.

665
00:37:55,900 –> 00:37:59,300
But like, it’s such a powerful
tool or at least it could be

666
00:37:59,400 –> 00:38:04,000
that I think that potential is
attractive enough to even get

667
00:38:04,000 –> 00:38:07,400
like a super paranoid
anti-government type involved.

668
00:38:07,400 –> 00:38:10,400
Yeah, I feel that way about Tick
Tock right now.

669
00:38:11,400 –> 00:38:16,500
I know so many people who are
like bam, the Nazis Jack also

670
00:38:16,500 –> 00:38:20,200
check out my Tick Tock, it’s
like half of this was planned on

671
00:38:20,200 –> 00:38:23,000
Tick-Tock.
I got I honestly that was the

672
00:38:23,000 –> 00:38:29,100
big like a I consider myself,
unfortunately fairly up, like up

673
00:38:29,100 –> 00:38:34,100
to speed on what the Nutjob.
Fascists on the internet are

674
00:38:34,100 –> 00:38:39,700
trying to do, and I was not
aware of the massive push of

675
00:38:39,700 –> 00:38:43,200
fascists and right-wingers on
Tick-Tock.

676
00:38:43,200 –> 00:38:46,000
I really was surprised by that.
Do you think they dance?

677
00:38:46,300 –> 00:38:48,900
Yeah, I want to know.
I want to see them dance to Lum

678
00:38:48,900 –> 00:38:49,900
Country.
Boy, Can Survive.

679
00:38:49,900 –> 00:38:52,200
Yes, if that’s a requirement,
they have to.

680
00:38:52,800 –> 00:38:56,400
Yeah, I couldn’t.
Dance steps while say, in the

681
00:38:56,400 –> 00:39:00,000
Holocaust doesn’t react.
This is weird.

682
00:39:00,600 –> 00:39:03,300
All of their dances have 1488
steps.

683
00:39:04,300 –> 00:39:14,600
Listen, it’s Ace of Base.
Oh no, yeah, speaking of

684
00:39:15,200 –> 00:39:20,500
speaking of 14 or whatever, the
stupid number is one good thing.

685
00:39:20,700 –> 00:39:23,800
Number one, good thing that has
come out of this Capital, right?

686
00:39:23,900 –> 00:39:28,100
It is, I have a phrase that I’m
going to carry with me for

687
00:39:28,100 –> 00:39:32,600
probably all of 2021.
Anytime I’m even minorly

688
00:39:32,700 –> 00:39:38,600
inconvenience, this is my 1776.
I love that so much.

689
00:39:39,600 –> 00:39:44,000
So many of them were like, just
as my 1776 that it’s not.

690
00:39:44,000 –> 00:39:47,900
Wow, not even close.
You’re so cool.

691
00:39:48,500 –> 00:39:50,800
Like you motherfuckers are about
to find out alien.

692
00:39:50,800 –> 00:39:52,800
Technology is real.
Yeah.

693
00:39:57,000 –> 00:40:01,100
I feel like even storm Area 51
is part of this, where people

694
00:40:01,100 –> 00:40:03,500
were because remember that they
were like, they can’t shoot all

695
00:40:03,500 –> 00:40:05,300
of us at once.
Oh, yeah.

696
00:40:06,800 –> 00:40:11,000
It was like, no, we absolutely
can shoot all of you once I

697
00:40:11,000 –> 00:40:14,100
don’t want you to be under a
vissa, like understanding.

698
00:40:14,300 –> 00:40:16,500
Wait, wait.
That’s a good point now now,

699
00:40:16,900 –> 00:40:19,500
wait, if they charge the
capital, only one person was

700
00:40:19,500 –> 00:40:21,500
shot.
What would happen if they charge

701
00:40:21,500 –> 00:40:23,700
Area 51, when they get they
supposed to think?

702
00:40:24,300 –> 00:40:27,800
They might they might be able to
crack the secret Force, the

703
00:40:27,800 –> 00:40:31,100
cashews.
I think the military has a much

704
00:40:31,100 –> 00:40:34,600
more vested interest in
protecting one of its bases than

705
00:40:34,600 –> 00:40:36,800
and more than a capital.
Yes really.

706
00:40:36,800 –> 00:40:39,100
Absolutely I think they’re much
I think they’re very

707
00:40:39,100 –> 00:40:41,700
self-serving as an organization
in general.

708
00:40:42,000 –> 00:40:44,200
I don’t really want anyone
touching their toys.

709
00:40:44,200 –> 00:40:48,100
Yeah the military is extremely
suspicious in general more than

710
00:40:48,100 –> 00:40:50,600
I care to admit though.
Very sighs.

711
00:40:50,700 –> 00:40:54,100
Yeah, I feel like the government
would absolutely Lutely

712
00:40:54,100 –> 00:40:58,100
sacrifice Mike Pence if it meant
the world not finding out.

713
00:40:58,100 –> 00:41:01,200
We did something with that Nazi
alien technology.

714
00:41:01,200 –> 00:41:04,700
We got after World War Two.
Hmm, who knows?

715
00:41:04,800 –> 00:41:07,900
But yeah, I mean, honestly, I
think everything is pretty much

716
00:41:07,900 –> 00:41:10,700
on the table right now.
Like I think saying that

717
00:41:10,700 –> 00:41:15,500
anything is a certainty or
certainty to not happen is kind

718
00:41:15,500 –> 00:41:21,100
of foolish because things are
crazy, very crazy, right now, a

719
00:41:21,100 –> 00:41:25,000
little bit ago, basically,
basically anything Conceivably

720
00:41:25,000 –> 00:41:29,300
happen, a little crazy.
I would love if in the next week

721
00:41:29,300 –> 00:41:32,900
before, Biden?
Like it was tried to inaugurate,

722
00:41:32,900 –> 00:41:35,600
I can’t say that he’s going to
be inaugurated, I’d say they’re

723
00:41:35,600 –> 00:41:39,700
gonna try, but like before, I
think it in the next week alien

724
00:41:39,700 –> 00:41:42,100
should come, that would be great
if they just came and they’re

725
00:41:42,107 –> 00:41:45,400
just like, we’re just like,
we’re going to just fuck you all

726
00:41:45,400 –> 00:41:47,500
over.
We’re just gonna be doing the

727
00:41:47,500 –> 00:41:49,700
Stephen Hawking thing.
We’re just going to like, wipe

728
00:41:49,700 –> 00:41:51,900
you all out, but we’ll take it
slow.

729
00:41:52,000 –> 00:41:53,900
So you get to be scared and
that’ll Be.

730
00:41:53,900 –> 00:41:57,100
That’ll be the alien thing.
It’d be great, I me for it would

731
00:41:57,100 –> 00:41:59,600
be amazing.
Yeah, again, aliens, if any

732
00:41:59,600 –> 00:42:02,400
aliens are listening, I just
want to say, I’ve always been a

733
00:42:02,408 –> 00:42:04,800
fan.
Always supported the alien,

734
00:42:04,800 –> 00:42:09,700
cause always always on board
with whatever probing or

735
00:42:10,000 –> 00:42:12,400
abduction.
Type plans that you have.

736
00:42:12,500 –> 00:42:13,600
I’m an ally.
I man.

737
00:42:13,800 –> 00:42:16,400
I mean yeah.
Ally in a lie, you know?

738
00:42:18,300 –> 00:42:22,400
Alright, so let’s go back to
what we were talking about the

739
00:42:22,400 –> 00:42:25,200
New World Order speech.
In the New World Order book

740
00:42:25,200 –> 00:42:27,300
comes out.
I want to remind everyone,

741
00:42:27,300 –> 00:42:31,300
George h.w., Bush used to be the
head of the CIA, so he knows a

742
00:42:31,308 –> 00:42:36,200
thing or two about plots and
plans, and putting down groups

743
00:42:36,200 –> 00:42:38,300
that the government doesn’t want
to thrive.

744
00:42:38,400 –> 00:42:44,400
And then and then the, the New
World Order conspiracy involves

745
00:42:44,400 –> 00:42:49,700
a militarized police force or
government descending on these

746
00:42:49,700 –> 00:42:53,700
people to take away their guns.
So what do we do?

747
00:42:53,800 –> 00:42:56,600
Do next.
We start descending on these

748
00:42:56,600 –> 00:43:01,200
groups to take away their guns.
First Ruby Ridge, which that

749
00:43:01,200 –> 00:43:05,700
guy, like, that guy just was
accused of selling, like a

750
00:43:05,700 –> 00:43:09,300
sawed-off shotgun.
And he killed half his family

751
00:43:09,300 –> 00:43:12,100
over it.
They did kind of overreacted the

752
00:43:12,100 –> 00:43:14,800
government.
Well, both I think both sides.

753
00:43:14,800 –> 00:43:18,100
Maybe not the book, be a both
sides kind of person, but I

754
00:43:18,100 –> 00:43:21,800
think they both kind of
overreacted slightly to to that

755
00:43:21,800 –> 00:43:25,400
whole situation.
Mmm, I don’t know.

756
00:43:25,600 –> 00:43:30,300
I don’t know if you’re right,
maybe I’m wrong often.

757
00:43:30,300 –> 00:43:33,400
So it’s fine.
And then Waco happens.

758
00:43:33,600 –> 00:43:37,900
And here’s the thing, I’m not a
white nationalist, which neither

759
00:43:37,900 –> 00:43:40,500
were the people at Waco.
That’s good.

760
00:43:40,600 –> 00:43:45,300
But even I, when that happened
and still now, looking back on,

761
00:43:45,300 –> 00:43:50,400
it was like that was a bit much,
the government really, really

762
00:43:50,400 –> 00:43:52,700
acted up in that moment.
Yeah.

763
00:43:52,900 –> 00:43:55,800
And so if I was Noticing it.
What do you think the white

764
00:43:55,800 –> 00:43:59,400
nationalist were thinking and
the anti-government types who

765
00:43:59,400 –> 00:44:03,000
had just been, they’ve just
spent decades worrying about the

766
00:44:03,000 –> 00:44:05,600
New World Order.
And now here comes George Bush

767
00:44:05,600 –> 00:44:09,200
to say New World Order, and now
it’s actually playing out in

768
00:44:09,200 –> 00:44:12,000
front of them.
So I don’t know if that was all

769
00:44:12,000 –> 00:44:13,900
intentional.
Like, I don’t know.

770
00:44:14,000 –> 00:44:17,400
I don’t know if Ruby Ridge and
Waco were intentional, but we

771
00:44:17,400 –> 00:44:21,300
know what it caused like that.
That’s where a lot of these

772
00:44:21,300 –> 00:44:23,700
anti-government types who might
have been a little more.

773
00:44:23,800 –> 00:44:26,500
On the fence about it, really
got radicalized.

774
00:44:26,700 –> 00:44:28,600
Yeah.
So the point that the Oklahoma

775
00:44:28,600 –> 00:44:33,600
City bombing happens, what is it
two years later after work out,

776
00:44:33,800 –> 00:44:38,600
like 1 or 2 years later 1996 and
so yeah, I think it was.

777
00:44:38,600 –> 00:44:42,500
Yeah, it was it nine dollars up
for life of nicest was a land.

778
00:44:42,500 –> 00:44:44,200
Oh, right?
Yeah, it’ll bombing.

779
00:44:44,400 –> 00:44:47,400
So knife, 5 and the 90s were
crazy.

780
00:44:47,500 –> 00:44:50,800
Every year was something you’ll
get credit enough.

781
00:44:50,800 –> 00:44:52,900
I think.
And we were Mana sighs.

782
00:44:52,900 –> 00:44:54,000
I’m so much.
Much.

783
00:44:54,000 –> 00:44:55,800
Well the economy was just so
good.

784
00:44:55,900 –> 00:44:58,500
Yeah, that we just can’t think
of anything else that, right?

785
00:44:59,400 –> 00:45:04,100
So so then like I know I’m kind
of dragging this out.

786
00:45:04,100 –> 00:45:06,000
I’m going to speed through it a
little bit.

787
00:45:06,500 –> 00:45:11,800
So now we’re at this point in
the mid 90s where we’ve got

788
00:45:11,900 –> 00:45:16,000
conspiracy, theorists on one
side and that is where the

789
00:45:16,000 –> 00:45:19,800
anti-government groups are and
they’re like oh spreading their

790
00:45:19,800 –> 00:45:23,700
their talk online and just kind
of doing it unabated for a few.

791
00:45:23,800 –> 00:45:28,300
Years and then 9/11 happens.
And I think that’s the point

792
00:45:28,300 –> 00:45:31,700
where a lot of anti-government
types became Republicans.

793
00:45:32,100 –> 00:45:36,900
Yeah, because now our enemy
wasn’t Communists which I

794
00:45:36,900 –> 00:45:41,800
guarantee everyone pictured, as
like Ivan Drago so like at least

795
00:45:41,800 –> 00:45:46,200
they’re white like once 9/11
happened that’s a whole other

796
00:45:46,200 –> 00:45:49,400
thing and that’s where you start
seeing these like right-wing

797
00:45:49,400 –> 00:45:52,800
Patriot type.
Start aligning with Republicans

798
00:45:52,900 –> 00:45:54,000
instead.
Ed.

799
00:45:54,300 –> 00:45:57,200
So then what do you drop into
the middle of that environment?

800
00:45:57,200 –> 00:46:01,900
Our first black president?
His middle name is Hussein.

801
00:46:02,800 –> 00:46:05,900
And with that right-wing
extremists, go nuts.

802
00:46:06,000 –> 00:46:08,400
And here’s the thing, people on
the left, spent eight years

803
00:46:08,400 –> 00:46:11,700
going, nuts under George Bush.
We don’t want to admit it or

804
00:46:11,700 –> 00:46:14,800
talk about it anymore, but by
the end of those eight years, we

805
00:46:14,800 –> 00:46:17,800
were like bush is going to put
us in FEMA camps.

806
00:46:18,000 –> 00:46:19,500
Yeah.
No he wasn’t.

807
00:46:19,500 –> 00:46:23,600
So Bush was definitely deserving
of going.

808
00:46:23,800 –> 00:46:28,900
He is every bit as awful or
worse than Trump, so I think

809
00:46:28,900 –> 00:46:31,200
going crazy.
It was a rational response to

810
00:46:31,200 –> 00:46:33,900
the Bush Administration but I
also think that’s kind of what

811
00:46:33,900 –> 00:46:37,600
the government wants like.
It’s not like we’ve been getting

812
00:46:37,600 –> 00:46:41,800
more and more unified as a
nation since 2000.

813
00:46:41,800 –> 00:46:46,900
Like 2,000 in the bush era is
like when it really took off.

814
00:46:47,100 –> 00:46:50,300
Yeah.
And then once Obama takes

815
00:46:50,300 –> 00:46:54,300
office, that’s not going to make
it better and then Near the end

816
00:46:54,300 –> 00:46:57,400
of Obama’s run like eight years
into everyone.

817
00:46:57,400 –> 00:47:02,500
Carrying around a phone that had
a camera on it magically in 2014

818
00:47:02,600 –> 00:47:04,700
police killing black people
becomes news.

819
00:47:05,000 –> 00:47:08,200
It’s like that’s been happening.
Like it was just a.

820
00:47:08,600 –> 00:47:11,900
Yeah.
It’s like yeah, it’s like since

821
00:47:11,900 –> 00:47:14,100
recorded history that has been
happening.

822
00:47:14,100 –> 00:47:16,700
I know that’s the old formula.
Yeah.

823
00:47:18,600 –> 00:47:23,200
You guys are just new fans.
Yeah, police brutality.

824
00:47:23,300 –> 00:47:31,400
I’ve been And stuff you’re late
and so 2014 which I did in on

825
00:47:31,400 –> 00:47:36,100
pops recently about how it was
the literal worst year in recent

826
00:47:36,100 –> 00:47:41,300
memory 2020 included, but
Flashpoint 2014 that’s where

827
00:47:41,300 –> 00:47:45,500
black lives matter and blue
lives matter both start and like

828
00:47:45,500 –> 00:47:49,500
once that happens we are as a
nation for the most part firmly

829
00:47:49,500 –> 00:47:53,600
on our team’s.
There’s there’s sent wrists who

830
00:47:53,700 –> 00:47:57,800
I think are actually the group,
the government cares about the

831
00:47:57,800 –> 00:48:00,600
most, because they just want to
be comfortable.

832
00:48:00,700 –> 00:48:03,700
Like, right there, status quo,
like that’s what centrism is

833
00:48:03,700 –> 00:48:06,600
about is the status quo and
that’s what the government is

834
00:48:06,600 –> 00:48:10,400
trying to protect, right?
And so you have the country

835
00:48:10,400 –> 00:48:13,200
divided basically, into black
lives, matter, blue lives

836
00:48:13,200 –> 00:48:15,400
matter.
You drop Trump into the middle

837
00:48:15,400 –> 00:48:17,500
of that.
And now he is the most

838
00:48:17,800 –> 00:48:20,700
polarizing president we’ve ever
had.

839
00:48:20,900 –> 00:48:24,500
And so we have the two sides.
In place.

840
00:48:24,800 –> 00:48:27,200
How do you how do you get them
to come out?

841
00:48:27,300 –> 00:48:30,800
Well, for leftist, it’s very
simple, just show people what

842
00:48:30,800 –> 00:48:32,400
the police already do.
Yeah.

843
00:48:32,500 –> 00:48:36,100
You don’t have to really rally
anyone like you, there’s no

844
00:48:36,200 –> 00:48:38,800
other efforts.
You have to get behind just show

845
00:48:38,800 –> 00:48:42,300
us those videos and people will
respond, right?

846
00:48:42,300 –> 00:48:45,700
Yeah, I mean it took good six
years before people really do.

847
00:48:45,700 –> 00:48:51,300
See here’s and people still are
wishy-washy about it right?

848
00:48:51,300 –> 00:48:55,500
Yeah.
But that gets That side of

849
00:48:55,600 –> 00:48:58,200
political dissent out into the
streets.

850
00:48:58,400 –> 00:49:02,700
But how do you, how do you rile
up those white nationalists?

851
00:49:02,700 –> 00:49:06,900
In those anti-government types
who feel a little more relaxed?

852
00:49:06,900 –> 00:49:10,900
Because Trump is in office q and
On Cue and on is how you do that

853
00:49:10,900 –> 00:49:13,900
and you do it by exploiting
something.

854
00:49:14,400 –> 00:49:18,800
Fucking intelligence agencies
have been exploiting forever,

855
00:49:18,800 –> 00:49:23,100
which is pedophilia, that is a
tactic governments.

856
00:49:23,100 –> 00:49:26,600
Have been you Zing against their
enemies for a long time, just

857
00:49:26,600 –> 00:49:29,300
accuse them of being pedophiles
because that tugs at the

858
00:49:29,300 –> 00:49:32,700
heartstrings and we know from
the Satanic Panic that it would

859
00:49:32,700 –> 00:49:36,000
work in the United States.
Like that’s all the satanic

860
00:49:36,000 –> 00:49:40,000
Panic was was people freaking
out about satanic pedophiles at

861
00:49:40,000 –> 00:49:43,200
daycare centers.
As if a daycare center, one of

862
00:49:43,207 –> 00:49:45,900
the stories was that they
slaughtered a giraffe.

863
00:49:46,200 –> 00:49:49,200
Where would they get a giraffe?
And I will be some day care

864
00:49:49,200 –> 00:49:51,600
center.
Yeah, I was gonna say like a

865
00:49:51,600 –> 00:49:54,900
great day at day care.
Someone’s gonna drive by and be

866
00:49:54,900 –> 00:49:58,300
like, is that a Jew and a half?
I have so many questions.

867
00:49:58,600 –> 00:50:02,800
I don’t think I’ve ever seen a
giraffe spraying blood before.

868
00:50:02,800 –> 00:50:05,900
This is this is unusual.
Exactly.

869
00:50:06,500 –> 00:50:11,000
And like that’s a big neck to
like this, a really big neck to

870
00:50:11,000 –> 00:50:14,000
slice, you know, like holy shit.
A lot of next.

871
00:50:14,000 –> 00:50:17,200
I had to get the right vertical
giraffe, that better be a

872
00:50:17,200 –> 00:50:20,200
sacrifice that lasts all year.
Yeah, that’s a big animal,

873
00:50:20,800 –> 00:50:22,500
really?
They ate the giraffe.

874
00:50:23,900 –> 00:50:30,600
Don’t waste that neck meat.
And so, like, even the fact that

875
00:50:30,600 –> 00:50:34,300
Trump got elected kind of feels
like a honey pot sort of

876
00:50:34,300 –> 00:50:37,500
situation to me.
I have a quote in the notes.

877
00:50:37,500 –> 00:50:39,700
Here We Go.
In many cases, I probably

878
00:50:39,700 –> 00:50:43,000
identify more as a Democrat.
It just seems that the economy

879
00:50:43,000 –> 00:50:45,700
does better under the Democrats
than the Republicans.

880
00:50:46,000 –> 00:50:49,200
Now, it shouldn’t be that way,
but if you go back, I mean it

881
00:50:49,200 –> 00:50:52,800
just seems that the economy does
better under the Democrats, but

882
00:50:52,800 –> 00:50:56,000
we certainly had some very good
economies under Democrats as

883
00:50:56,000 –> 00:50:59,100
well as Republicans.
But we’ve had some Pretty bad

884
00:50:59,100 –> 00:51:03,100
disasters under the Republicans,
that is Donald Trump talking to

885
00:51:03,100 –> 00:51:08,000
Wolf Blitzer in 2004.
I was another board up a lot, I

886
00:51:08,000 –> 00:51:10,200
think it is.
One of the underrated things

887
00:51:10,200 –> 00:51:15,000
about Trump is that he used to
be a Democrat and yeah, like the

888
00:51:15,000 –> 00:51:17,500
thing about trumpet.
I think this is a thing that has

889
00:51:17,500 –> 00:51:22,200
kind of gotten accepted and not
normalized but just like people

890
00:51:22,200 –> 00:51:25,000
have almost forgotten about it
because it is such an

891
00:51:25,000 –> 00:51:28,900
ever-present thing.
But the the maddening And when

892
00:51:28,900 –> 00:51:32,200
Trump started to run for
president was, people would keep

893
00:51:32,200 –> 00:51:35,700
throwing out all this kind of
stuff and like him calling

894
00:51:35,700 –> 00:51:38,900
Republicans stupid and saying
that, that’s why he would run as

895
00:51:38,900 –> 00:51:40,500
a Republican and like him going
on.

896
00:51:40,500 –> 00:51:44,200
Howard Stern.
Like people just non-stop for

897
00:51:44,200 –> 00:51:47,600
year, like, keep throwing out
all this stuff and he would

898
00:51:47,600 –> 00:51:50,600
just, he was just Teflon.
Don like, he would just like,

899
00:51:50,700 –> 00:51:54,200
you know, it would just bounce
off of him, like it really is,

900
00:51:54,400 –> 00:51:57,400
it was one of the most maddening
things I think is now just kind

901
00:51:57,400 –> 00:51:58,600
of Gone by the wayside.
Side.

902
00:51:58,600 –> 00:52:00,600
Because people are just used to
it, right?

903
00:52:00,600 –> 00:52:04,700
And you have to think about what
Donald Trump was to his father.

904
00:52:04,700 –> 00:52:09,000
I cannot recommend enough
reading the Mary Trump book, she

905
00:52:09,000 –> 00:52:12,900
is a clinical psychologist who
also grew up with Donald Trump.

906
00:52:12,900 –> 00:52:17,000
So the Insight, you get from
that book is fascinating and she

907
00:52:17,000 –> 00:52:21,200
talks a lot about his dad.
And what his dad wanted out of

908
00:52:21,200 –> 00:52:26,000
his kids, was for the girls to
leave him alone and not talk to

909
00:52:26,000 –> 00:52:29,300
him and not expect any In or
love.

910
00:52:29,300 –> 00:52:31,300
And he had never had his cootie
shot.

911
00:52:31,300 –> 00:52:34,000
So that’s just saying that
that’s true.

912
00:52:34,100 –> 00:52:38,100
And out of his boys, he wanted
one of them to become what he

913
00:52:38,100 –> 00:52:42,800
called a killer, because Fred
Trump lacked personality, he was

914
00:52:42,800 –> 00:52:47,000
not a guy that could go out and
impose, his will on the public.

915
00:52:47,200 –> 00:52:51,400
And he wanted one of his sons to
be that he just wanted one of

916
00:52:51,400 –> 00:52:55,700
them to be the face of his
real-estate Empire go out and be

917
00:52:55,700 –> 00:52:57,800
an asshole in public when you
need to.

918
00:52:57,900 –> 00:53:01,800
I’ll Run, everything else that
was Donald Trump’s role.

919
00:53:01,800 –> 00:53:06,400
And I kind of feel like it’s his
role now or it has been for the

920
00:53:06,400 –> 00:53:09,900
last four years.
Even if he doesn’t realize it.

921
00:53:10,000 –> 00:53:15,400
I think that has kind of been
what he’s here to do, which is

922
00:53:15,400 –> 00:53:18,900
in, again, I’m not saying,
Donald Trump is on some secret

923
00:53:18,900 –> 00:53:21,800
mission to destroy white
nationalist.

924
00:53:21,900 –> 00:53:26,600
I’m saying, Donald Trump is
meant to pull everyone out and

925
00:53:26,600 –> 00:53:29,100
get everyone fighting The
streets.

926
00:53:29,400 –> 00:53:31,100
So, people in the middle of that
can go.

927
00:53:31,100 –> 00:53:33,400
Can someone just fucking stop
this?

928
00:53:33,600 –> 00:53:37,900
Like, can we just, can I just go
have coffee in Seattle with my

929
00:53:37,900 –> 00:53:41,000
friends again, without walking
into a riot?

930
00:53:41,000 –> 00:53:44,800
Please stop this.
And that is what will happen?

931
00:53:45,000 –> 00:53:49,500
We will welcome the government
crushing descent on both sides.

932
00:53:49,500 –> 00:53:53,000
Not all of us will be
imprisoned, but everyone else in

933
00:53:53,000 –> 00:53:56,600
the middle would be, like,
finally things are back to

934
00:53:56,600 –> 00:54:01,500
normal, like That is what, at
least Q&A on is about.

935
00:54:01,500 –> 00:54:04,200
And I think it up is the, he’s
the plan to fire.

936
00:54:04,200 –> 00:54:07,100
We’re going to bake for them to
put it out, kind of and like you

937
00:54:07,100 –> 00:54:09,500
even heard Trump when he was
campaigning this year.

938
00:54:09,500 –> 00:54:11,200
That’s what he was campaigning
on.

939
00:54:11,200 –> 00:54:15,200
He was campaigning on, like he
even used the phrase, the silent

940
00:54:15,200 –> 00:54:18,200
majority.
And the silent majority is a

941
00:54:18,400 –> 00:54:22,500
term Nixon coined that referred
to people who didn’t participate

942
00:54:22,500 –> 00:54:25,800
in Vietnam War protests who
weren’t a part of the

943
00:54:25,808 –> 00:54:29,300
counterculture and who didn’t
talk about, Their political

944
00:54:29,300 –> 00:54:32,700
views publicly, you can leave
the don’t talk about their

945
00:54:32,700 –> 00:54:36,000
political views publicly in
place and replace the other two

946
00:54:36,000 –> 00:54:39,200
with black lives matter protest
and socialism.

947
00:54:39,200 –> 00:54:42,700
That’s going to resonate with a
lot of people who will hear, why

948
00:54:42,700 –> 00:54:44,000
don’t want to be a white
nationalist.

949
00:54:44,000 –> 00:54:47,800
I don’t want to be a socialist
if I say either of those things,

950
00:54:47,800 –> 00:54:51,600
someone’s going to murder me.
So I just want that entire

951
00:54:51,600 –> 00:54:55,200
situation to go away.
That is always who America is

952
00:54:55,200 –> 00:54:58,200
working for the people who of
things to stay.

953
00:54:58,300 –> 00:55:00,800
A exactly.
As they are, they played by the

954
00:55:00,800 –> 00:55:02,800
rules quote unquote?
Yeah.

955
00:55:03,000 –> 00:55:04,300
Yeah.
That is cool, dude.

956
00:55:04,400 –> 00:55:09,100
But not the non troublemakers.
Yeah, and I kind of the losers

957
00:55:09,500 –> 00:55:13,000
losers.
Honestly, it’s a cool to pick a

958
00:55:13,000 –> 00:55:14,100
club.
Join some.

959
00:55:14,100 –> 00:55:16,400
Yeah.
Seriously, you gotta get that

960
00:55:16,400 –> 00:55:17,500
credit.
Come on.

961
00:55:17,600 –> 00:55:23,500
Like it down the sideline.
It almost feels like kind of a

962
00:55:23,500 –> 00:55:27,200
social experiment like these.
These people that storm the

963
00:55:27,200 –> 00:55:30,200
capital I’ve brought Sup.
Before they spent the entire

964
00:55:30,200 –> 00:55:34,800
summer cheering over a law.
That says, if you desecrate a

965
00:55:34,808 –> 00:55:38,900
National Monument or government
building, it’s a 10-year prison

966
00:55:38,900 –> 00:55:41,300
sentence.
And what’s the first thing they

967
00:55:41,300 –> 00:55:45,400
do the minute Trump loses.
They go storm a government

968
00:55:45,400 –> 00:55:49,200
building without wearing masks
and it’s like you wanted that

969
00:55:49,200 –> 00:55:50,600
law.
And now you’re going to go to

970
00:55:50,600 –> 00:55:53,200
prison over.
It added the law wasn’t for

971
00:55:53,200 –> 00:55:56,000
them, not for them.
Yeah, that is not for them.

972
00:55:56,100 –> 00:55:58,600
Exactly.
And that’s what I’m Saying

973
00:55:58,800 –> 00:56:01,500
that’s the naivety of these
people believing.

974
00:56:01,800 –> 00:56:04,700
Any part of the American
government had their best

975
00:56:04,700 –> 00:56:08,200
interest in mind and here’s the
thing, I don’t feel bad about

976
00:56:08,200 –> 00:56:10,300
it.
I want them to walk into this

977
00:56:10,300 –> 00:56:16,800
trap, it is what they deserve.
I will say, I just, as you said,

978
00:56:16,900 –> 00:56:19,700
a little bit of pushback, not
not too much because I do think

979
00:56:19,700 –> 00:56:25,500
that there’s a lot of real like
validity to all of this and like

980
00:56:25,500 –> 00:56:28,100
real things to think about.
But I do what?

981
00:56:28,600 –> 00:56:33,800
Like I don’t want out, we Trend
too close to giving a little bit

982
00:56:33,800 –> 00:56:39,600
too much credit to the the
American people just in general

983
00:56:39,600 –> 00:56:44,300
as a group, especially the
people who are angry and dumb

984
00:56:44,300 –> 00:56:48,600
enough to be right-wing people.
Like, I don’t think that they

985
00:56:48,600 –> 00:56:53,100
need a lot of.
If any outside influence to stay

986
00:56:53,100 –> 00:56:57,400
mad and hateful even while
they’re in power, I think that

987
00:56:57,500 –> 00:57:01,100
that is just In there like
personality, they just like to

988
00:57:01,100 –> 00:57:04,600
be mad, they don’t have any
other way to operate, right?

989
00:57:04,600 –> 00:57:07,800
So, but if you’re the American
government, do you, do you want

990
00:57:07,800 –> 00:57:09,600
that?
Do you just want that to Fester

991
00:57:09,600 –> 00:57:13,100
forever until they get bold
enough to do something like

992
00:57:13,100 –> 00:57:16,800
this, as a surprise?
Or do you want to be like, fuck

993
00:57:16,800 –> 00:57:17,800
it?
Let’s do it.

994
00:57:17,800 –> 00:57:19,900
And like I said that, I’m not
saying that the government

995
00:57:19,900 –> 00:57:25,200
doesn’t have any sort of hand in
pushing along some of these

996
00:57:25,200 –> 00:57:29,700
things.
But I do think that They would

997
00:57:29,700 –> 00:57:33,300
rather deal with those people
because those people, as we’ve

998
00:57:33,300 –> 00:57:37,000
said, when it comes to just how
they even treated the, the

999
00:57:37,000 –> 00:57:41,300
Capitol building itself and, and
the premises, those people have

1000
00:57:41,300 –> 00:57:44,300
a natural subservience to
Authority that the people on the

1001
00:57:44,300 –> 00:57:47,500
left do not have.
Even the people who want a

1002
00:57:47,500 –> 00:57:50,600
strong central government, like
I wanted a strong central

1003
00:57:50,600 –> 00:57:54,700
government, but I am still
pretty strong anti-authoritarian

1004
00:57:54,700 –> 00:58:00,400
and that person and that It is a
lot more of an unruly kind of

1005
00:58:00,400 –> 00:58:03,900
person to deal with and a group
of people who, as long as you

1006
00:58:03,900 –> 00:58:06,900
are fucking with the people that
they hate are going to basically

1007
00:58:06,900 –> 00:58:09,500
go along with anything you want
regardless.

1008
00:58:09,600 –> 00:58:12,500
Yeah, I think they’re most,
they’re mostly just met like a

1009
00:58:12,500 –> 00:58:14,600
lot of the anger.
And the reason why they didn’t

1010
00:58:14,600 –> 00:58:17,600
have any demands when they got
to the floor of the senate or

1011
00:58:17,600 –> 00:58:23,000
anything is because all they
really wanted was an assurance

1012
00:58:23,000 –> 00:58:26,900
that things will still continue
to be bad for the people that

1013
00:58:26,900 –> 00:58:28,200
they hate.
Oh, definitely.

1014
00:58:28,600 –> 00:58:31,800
And I think that’s kind of the
tension that will keep them

1015
00:58:31,800 –> 00:58:33,800
coming out over the next few
years.

1016
00:58:33,800 –> 00:58:37,000
Because here’s the thing we’re
gonna get Criminal Justice

1017
00:58:37,000 –> 00:58:40,500
Reform of some sort like Biden
has to do it.

1018
00:58:40,600 –> 00:58:44,800
There is absolutely no way but
there’s also no way.

1019
00:58:45,200 –> 00:58:48,600
We’re going to just let our
private prisons be empty like

1020
00:58:48,600 –> 00:58:52,000
but I will sit like, but it’s
just so again, just just so

1021
00:58:52,000 –> 00:58:53,600
funny that they’re too stupid to
see.

1022
00:58:53,600 –> 00:58:57,200
Wouldn’t they’ve got it good
because we might get Criminal

1023
00:58:57,200 –> 00:58:59,200
Justice Reform.
Under Biden.

1024
00:58:59,400 –> 00:59:02,300
But there is no chance of it
being Criminal Justice Reform

1025
00:59:02,300 –> 00:59:05,800
that would not benefit those
same people who were storming

1026
00:59:05,800 –> 00:59:09,800
the capital like there’s just no
way it’ll only be to their

1027
00:59:09,800 –> 00:59:12,600
benefit right?
But they all these are the same

1028
00:59:12,600 –> 00:59:17,400
people who cheered for a law and
then yeah, blatantly broke it.

1029
00:59:17,500 –> 00:59:18,500
No, I know that’s what I’m
saying.

1030
00:59:18,700 –> 00:59:21,300
They’re very stupid, very dumb.
Yeah.

1031
00:59:21,300 –> 00:59:26,600
Like like like stupid dumb.
Angry people, but it’s just that

1032
00:59:26,600 –> 00:59:29,100
but that’s that’s kind of my
point is Like, if they would

1033
00:59:29,100 –> 00:59:34,100
just like settle down a little
bit and like actually look at

1034
00:59:34,200 –> 00:59:37,600
the reality of who is about to
enter office, they would have a

1035
00:59:37,607 –> 00:59:40,300
lot less to be super upset
about, obviously.

1036
00:59:40,400 –> 00:59:41,700
Yeah.
Look up Biden’s record.

1037
00:59:41,700 –> 00:59:43,100
Yeah, idiots.
Yeah.

1038
00:59:43,200 –> 00:59:46,500
Honestly, it’s not like the left
hasn’t been shoving.

1039
00:59:46,500 –> 00:59:49,700
It in their face for like a year
and a half.

1040
00:59:49,900 –> 00:59:53,200
Like the Hollywood have to do is
listen to us, but, no, they hate

1041
00:59:53,200 –> 00:59:55,600
us.
So they they can’t do that, but

1042
00:59:55,600 –> 00:59:57,700
if they would just listen to the
leftist, they would know that

1043
00:59:57,700 –> 00:59:59,800
biting.
Is actually kind of their die.

1044
00:59:59,800 –> 01:00:02,500
He would, they probably really
like him if they if they

1045
01:00:02,500 –> 01:00:07,300
actually listen to him, I think
coronavirus is going to put the

1046
01:00:07,300 –> 01:00:12,200
country in a similar situation
to this because right now with

1047
01:00:12,200 –> 01:00:15,600
this Insurrection happening, a
lot of people who don’t trust

1048
01:00:15,600 –> 01:00:18,900
the police have to kind of trust
the police.

1049
01:00:18,900 –> 01:00:23,400
Like I read an article about a
girl who was in she’s a black

1050
01:00:23,400 –> 01:00:25,600
lives matter activist.
She didn’t want to be named

1051
01:00:25,600 –> 01:00:29,400
because within her group, you
Call the police.

1052
01:00:29,500 –> 01:00:32,500
But she was also seeing all this
shit saying, well we’re going to

1053
01:00:32,500 –> 01:00:35,200
attack the capitol on January 6.
We’re going to kill activist,

1054
01:00:35,200 –> 01:00:37,100
we’re going to kill and she was
like, fuck it.

1055
01:00:37,100 –> 01:00:39,700
I’m going to call the FBI and of
course the FBI didn’t do

1056
01:00:39,700 –> 01:00:44,400
anything but write.
I feel like coronavirus is going

1057
01:00:44,400 –> 01:00:48,300
to be that next thing where
people on the left.

1058
01:00:48,300 –> 01:00:52,000
Like I don’t want to put a
government app on my phone, but

1059
01:00:52,000 –> 01:00:55,100
I also want to be able to leave
the house at some point and I

1060
01:00:55,100 –> 01:00:57,400
don’t doubt that if coronavirus
gets bad enough.

1061
01:00:58,200 –> 01:01:00,900
The government will be like,
yeah, you can leave the house.

1062
01:01:01,200 –> 01:01:04,200
Do you have that past that shows
you’ve been vaccinated.

1063
01:01:04,700 –> 01:01:08,500
It’s what South Korea did.
And that sort of thing, like and

1064
01:01:08,600 –> 01:01:10,700
not everyone’s Gonna Want That
vaccine.

1065
01:01:10,700 –> 01:01:14,100
Well, no, obviously no, I mean,
it’s and then what happened.

1066
01:01:14,100 –> 01:01:17,000
So people just a problem with
America are people just not

1067
01:01:17,000 –> 01:01:19,700
allowed to leave the house?
Yeah, I mean.

1068
01:01:19,900 –> 01:01:22,700
Well, no, because what’s going
to happen is we’re just going to

1069
01:01:22,900 –> 01:01:25,100
we’re going to go back to
business, as usual.

1070
01:01:25,200 –> 01:01:28,000
All the businesses are going to
open up like normal.

1071
01:01:28,800 –> 01:01:31,700
People are going to go back to
work, normally all the shelter

1072
01:01:31,700 –> 01:01:34,400
in place, orders are going to go
away and people are just going

1073
01:01:34,400 –> 01:01:39,300
to keep dying everyday in the
thousands to tens of tens of

1074
01:01:39,300 –> 01:01:42,200
thousands and we’re just going
to pretend like it’s not

1075
01:01:42,200 –> 01:01:45,700
happening because that’s the
easiest way to get back to

1076
01:01:45,700 –> 01:01:48,700
normal.
Quick note about the vaccine, my

1077
01:01:48,700 –> 01:01:52,700
girl is in the medical field.
So she they have the option of

1078
01:01:52,700 –> 01:01:55,100
getting the vaccine but we just
in Research into it.

1079
01:01:55,400 –> 01:01:58,000
There actually is it can cause
complications.

1080
01:01:58,200 –> 01:02:00,000
It’s infertility in women.
Yeah.

1081
01:02:00,000 –> 01:02:03,000
So that’s yeah.
That means any anything like

1082
01:02:03,000 –> 01:02:05,800
this.
Like that’s I mean, that is just

1083
01:02:05,800 –> 01:02:10,700
a thing for public health.
Like any sort of massive public

1084
01:02:10,700 –> 01:02:13,700
health program that is being
rolled out this fast.

1085
01:02:13,800 –> 01:02:18,300
Like the fact that we even have
a shitty vaccine, this fast is

1086
01:02:18,300 –> 01:02:22,100
just kind of a testament to how
dire the whole covid situation

1087
01:02:22,100 –> 01:02:25,900
is because those things take
fucking years to make yeah like

1088
01:02:25,900 –> 01:02:31,300
every every vaccine even For
very pressing like diseases.

1089
01:02:31,400 –> 01:02:34,300
So like, yeah, I think these
first few vaccines are going to

1090
01:02:34,300 –> 01:02:40,700
have those kinds of like side
effects and the it’s just going

1091
01:02:40,700 –> 01:02:45,400
to have to be a case where the
possible like negative side

1092
01:02:45,400 –> 01:02:48,300
effects are going.
You have to decide whether they

1093
01:02:48,300 –> 01:02:52,800
outweigh the possibility of
catching covid or giving covid

1094
01:02:52,800 –> 01:02:56,100
to your friends or relatives.
It’s and and I don’t know that

1095
01:02:56,100 –> 01:02:58,400
every American.
I mean, obviously every Reckon

1096
01:02:58,400 –> 01:03:02,700
won’t make the same decision and
they won’t necessarily be wrong,

1097
01:03:02,700 –> 01:03:07,200
but at the same time it yeah
it’s just stuff like our if our

1098
01:03:07,200 –> 01:03:11,700
government had handled this at
all in the entire last year,

1099
01:03:11,800 –> 01:03:15,400
then maybe we wouldn’t be put in
these kinds of situations where

1100
01:03:15,400 –> 01:03:18,800
we have to make those decisions
but yeah, it fucking sucks.

1101
01:03:19,300 –> 01:03:22,000
Yeah.
And what I think, I think a

1102
01:03:22,008 –> 01:03:26,700
similar thing is going to happen
especially if Biden takes office

1103
01:03:26,700 –> 01:03:30,800
and puts a national In place
because we’re already seeing

1104
01:03:30,900 –> 01:03:35,500
anti-mask protests, like, even
in l.a. people are showing up at

1105
01:03:35,500 –> 01:03:39,800
malls and just like getting in
people’s faces and Luger and

1106
01:03:39,800 –> 01:03:43,000
like, not wearing masks.
Yeah, it’s happening in l.a. a

1107
01:03:43,000 –> 01:03:44,500
bunch.
It’s happening all over the

1108
01:03:44,500 –> 01:03:46,700
country.
And again, what these people

1109
01:03:46,700 –> 01:03:50,200
don’t realize, like, pay
attention to what your president

1110
01:03:50,200 –> 01:03:54,900
is doing in April of 2020.
Trump, and his Department of

1111
01:03:54,900 –> 01:03:59,400
Justice passed, a law that makes
Intentionally spreading

1112
01:03:59,400 –> 01:04:02,400
coronavirus, an act of
bioterrorism.

1113
01:04:03,100 –> 01:04:06,900
Oh, I don’t like that.
So, yeah, that’s a thing when it

1114
01:04:06,900 –> 01:04:09,200
when it happened, people on the
left were like, whoo.

1115
01:04:09,700 –> 01:04:13,400
Now what qualifies as spreading
it on purpose like just not

1116
01:04:13,400 –> 01:04:16,600
wearing a mask and what makes
this is not how these laws work.

1117
01:04:16,900 –> 01:04:20,800
Yeah.
As a person of Arab descent, I

1118
01:04:20,800 –> 01:04:26,900
am immediately, terrified,
whatever somebody for like makes

1119
01:04:26,900 –> 01:04:29,800
a law like that, that is Really
are red flag for me.

1120
01:04:30,000 –> 01:04:34,300
Yeah I just I’m not a fan of
just outright declaring that

1121
01:04:34,300 –> 01:04:38,000
someone is a is a terrorist
that’s not good and that they

1122
01:04:38,200 –> 01:04:42,200
the the law says if you do it
you can be charged as a

1123
01:04:42,207 –> 01:04:45,700
terrorist and I think all these
anti-mask fucks who think Donald

1124
01:04:45,700 –> 01:04:48,600
Trump is on their side.
Don’t realize that law was

1125
01:04:48,600 –> 01:04:51,300
passed.
And so the minute there is a

1126
01:04:51,300 –> 01:04:53,800
national lockdown.
There’s going to be another

1127
01:04:53,800 –> 01:04:57,200
Insurrection where all these
anti-mass types take to the

1128
01:04:57,200 –> 01:05:00,500
streets.
In fucking Law and Order happy.

1129
01:05:00,500 –> 01:05:03,900
Joe Biden is going to be like
getting prison bub.

1130
01:05:04,000 –> 01:05:05,600
It’s a bunch of malarkey you’re
doing.

1131
01:05:06,700 –> 01:05:10,700
And you cannot do Malarkey
around Joe Biden and who’s going

1132
01:05:10,700 –> 01:05:12,600
to be mad?
Who would be mad?

1133
01:05:12,700 –> 01:05:14,200
Our is anyone going to be
married?

1134
01:05:15,200 –> 01:05:18,400
I would not be happy about
anything like that personally,

1135
01:05:18,800 –> 01:05:23,700
but I will say it is just
America is just so shitty and

1136
01:05:23,700 –> 01:05:26,700
bad.
Like I those are very basic and

1137
01:05:26,700 –> 01:05:29,700
Elementary thing.
To say but like what?

1138
01:05:29,700 –> 01:05:35,100
A stupid country, if we had just
fucking shut everything down, I

1139
01:05:35,100 –> 01:05:38,600
just paid businesses to stay
closed and pay people to stay

1140
01:05:38,600 –> 01:05:42,500
home, then half of this descent
and half of this out.

1141
01:05:42,500 –> 01:05:45,700
Like problems wouldn’t even be
happening, like it’s just

1142
01:05:45,700 –> 01:05:50,600
ridiculous like yeah, but after
it just giving themselves

1143
01:05:50,600 –> 01:05:54,300
Problems by following these
shitty principles, right?

1144
01:05:54,300 –> 01:05:56,900
But immediately after it
happened, all your favorite

1145
01:05:56,900 –> 01:06:00,800
leftist It’s let Mark Cuban.
Come on and tell the world.

1146
01:06:00,800 –> 01:06:02,500
That that’s not what we should
do.

1147
01:06:02,700 –> 01:06:06,000
Well, I don’t have any favorites
like this podcast.

1148
01:06:06,500 –> 01:06:09,900
So I don’t know what you’re
referring to, and they made the

1149
01:06:09,900 –> 01:06:12,600
rounds on podcasts right after
right.

1150
01:06:12,600 –> 01:06:16,200
After coronavirus started,
hiring on a bunch of podcasting

1151
01:06:16,200 –> 01:06:21,400
was like, oh, we gonna let this
podcast that has Mark Cuban on

1152
01:06:21,408 –> 01:06:27,000
is no longer a leftist podcast.
Like I’m sorry that is used to

1153
01:06:27,000 –> 01:06:29,300
link with your card.
I’ll never have dinner with the

1154
01:06:29,300 –> 01:06:33,100
president.
Yeah but yeah it’s just they the

1155
01:06:33,100 –> 01:06:35,400
government really shot
themselves in the foot but this

1156
01:06:35,400 –> 01:06:38,300
old coronavirus thing because if
they because if they were

1157
01:06:38,300 –> 01:06:42,100
purposely trying to build
descent like a manageable

1158
01:06:42,100 –> 01:06:46,100
dissent, that could then be, you
know, fired against each other

1159
01:06:46,100 –> 01:06:48,200
side.
Leaving a state where the

1160
01:06:48,200 –> 01:06:52,600
Centrist can live in their
peaceful gray Utopia.

1161
01:06:52,600 –> 01:06:57,300
Like, if they if that was their
intention, then they did a

1162
01:06:57,300 –> 01:07:00,100
really shitty.
Job of it this year because oh,

1163
01:07:00,100 –> 01:07:03,100
what I do, all they needed to do
was get people money and it

1164
01:07:03,100 –> 01:07:04,700
would have been a lot more
manageable.

1165
01:07:04,700 –> 01:07:10,300
And yeah, I’m not, I’m not
saying that, like I want to make

1166
01:07:10,300 –> 01:07:12,000
it really clear.
I’m not saying that the

1167
01:07:12,000 –> 01:07:15,800
government created covid and
well-known, right?

1168
01:07:15,800 –> 01:07:20,800
Intention saying that either but
I 100% think covid is an

1169
01:07:20,800 –> 01:07:23,500
opportunity, the government or
is a thing.

1170
01:07:23,500 –> 01:07:28,700
A lot of governments saw as an
opportunity as much as Was a

1171
01:07:28,700 –> 01:07:34,200
crisis and I feel like one of
the positive side effects for

1172
01:07:34,400 –> 01:07:38,100
the the man was trying to hold
people down when it comes to

1173
01:07:38,100 –> 01:07:41,400
coronavirus is there is going to
be this point where people who

1174
01:07:41,400 –> 01:07:45,600
are clearly like some of the
most radicalized people in the

1175
01:07:45,600 –> 01:07:49,000
country because they’re willing
to go out and ignore science in

1176
01:07:49,000 –> 01:07:52,200
the middle of a pandemic to
prove their point like this

1177
01:07:52,200 –> 01:07:54,400
government doesn’t want those
people in place man.

1178
01:07:54,600 –> 01:07:58,000
They will happily round them up
and arrest them for taking.

1179
01:07:58,000 –> 01:08:01,300
Taking to the streets if there’s
a national lockdown but if they

1180
01:08:01,300 –> 01:08:05,300
didn’t want them doing that,
then they should have paid them.

1181
01:08:05,300 –> 01:08:09,200
Money to stay home.
Like what do you think is worse

1182
01:08:09,700 –> 01:08:13,000
taking advantage of a situation
or create a situation?

1183
01:08:13,000 –> 01:08:17,500
I take advantage of my I mean
worse, I don’t know.

1184
01:08:17,500 –> 01:08:21,600
But I do think that taking
advantage of a situation is that

1185
01:08:21,600 –> 01:08:25,399
is for Real, the government
Playbook and has been the

1186
01:08:25,399 –> 01:08:27,899
government playbook in every
country for years like me.

1187
01:08:28,100 –> 01:08:32,100
It’s the, the classic I believe
Churchill line, which is never

1188
01:08:32,100 –> 01:08:36,399
let a good crisis go to waste,
which was then said by the Bush

1189
01:08:36,399 –> 01:08:40,899
Administration on 9/11,
regarding Iraq and was said, in

1190
01:08:41,300 –> 01:08:44,600
by Rama Manuel regarding the
economic crisis.

1191
01:08:44,600 –> 01:08:47,600
In 2008.
Like that is, that is a for-real

1192
01:08:47,600 –> 01:08:49,600
government.
Mantra is never let a good

1193
01:08:49,600 –> 01:08:52,800
crisis, go to waste.
And I think that explains just

1194
01:08:52,800 –> 01:08:57,899
as much as any sort of like
purposeful action on the part.

1195
01:08:58,000 –> 01:09:00,500
Right of the government to build
any of these movements.

1196
01:09:01,100 –> 01:09:04,500
Yeah, that’s the thing.
Like even if this like

1197
01:09:04,500 –> 01:09:09,000
everything I laid out here
wasn’t an active plot or like a

1198
01:09:09,000 –> 01:09:11,399
plan, on the part of the
government.

1199
01:09:11,399 –> 01:09:15,600
There is no question that the
events that happen along the way

1200
01:09:15,600 –> 01:09:17,700
they took advantage of.
Yeah.

1201
01:09:17,700 –> 01:09:22,500
And in the way I described like,
absolutely either way, I just

1202
01:09:22,500 –> 01:09:27,200
feel like somehow
anti-government activists

1203
01:09:27,200 –> 01:09:30,500
starting in the early.
Early 90s allowed them to be

1204
01:09:30,500 –> 01:09:33,600
duped into what’s happening
right now.

1205
01:09:33,800 –> 01:09:38,300
All of that, like setting up
your Facebook groups and being a

1206
01:09:38,300 –> 01:09:41,500
fucking asshole online.
Like, all of it is going to

1207
01:09:41,500 –> 01:09:45,200
culminate into you, literally
walking into prison.

1208
01:09:45,300 –> 01:09:49,800
Like, like it’s going and like,
if it gets super duper out of

1209
01:09:49,800 –> 01:09:53,300
hand, it’s going to culminate in
the government taking guns, like

1210
01:09:53,399 –> 01:09:55,200
like, yeah.
I mean, the government should

1211
01:09:55,200 –> 01:10:00,500
just take guns anyway.
Yeah, if you’re gonna use a gun

1212
01:10:00,500 –> 01:10:02,600
to protect yourself from
government tyranny, then why do

1213
01:10:02,600 –> 01:10:05,300
you care whether it’s legal to
begin with, right?

1214
01:10:05,300 –> 01:10:08,900
But those aren’t the only people
who have guns like snow.

1215
01:10:09,400 –> 01:10:13,700
That’s what I’m saying is like,
if you know, I’ve got no problem

1216
01:10:13,700 –> 01:10:18,300
with strict gun laws because the
people who you want to use guns

1217
01:10:18,300 –> 01:10:20,600
to defend yourself against that
are the government oh, fuck

1218
01:10:20,600 –> 01:10:23,600
those motherfuckers too.
Like I’m not talking about use

1219
01:10:23,600 –> 01:10:27,100
illegal guns, like I’m just
saying like well that’s just

1220
01:10:27,100 –> 01:10:29,600
just get a Pull guns.
Well, that’s what I’m saying.

1221
01:10:29,700 –> 01:10:32,200
That’s the point though, the
government’s going to go after

1222
01:10:32,200 –> 01:10:36,800
illegal guns to and it should
already technically.

1223
01:10:37,000 –> 01:10:38,800
Yeah, but you know what?
That’s going to look like,

1224
01:10:38,800 –> 01:10:40,600
right?
That’s us saying, hey, can you

1225
01:10:40,600 –> 01:10:43,700
send that militarized police
force into black and brown

1226
01:10:43,700 –> 01:10:46,700
neighborhoods to just go door to
door and get all the guns?

1227
01:10:46,800 –> 01:10:48,900
The residents will love it.
It’ll be fine.

1228
01:10:49,000 –> 01:10:52,100
It’s quite a conundrum.
Yeah, I know, I know, I know I’m

1229
01:10:52,100 –> 01:10:56,900
aware of that dilemma in
particular, but yeah, it I don’t

1230
01:10:56,900 –> 01:11:00,400
have too much.
Of the moral gumption about the

1231
01:11:00,600 –> 01:11:03,900
about the guns thing.
It’s the other stuff that’s

1232
01:11:04,200 –> 01:11:06,600
slightly more concerning.
What about this?

1233
01:11:06,800 –> 01:11:10,600
What if we all get guns?
Well, that’s what I’m saying.

1234
01:11:11,000 –> 01:11:12,800
It’s literally what I’m saying.
Like, I think we should all have

1235
01:11:12,800 –> 01:11:15,500
guns.
Just Guns for every legal, but

1236
01:11:15,500 –> 01:11:19,000
just not legal ones.
Okay, got you.

1237
01:11:19,500 –> 01:11:22,200
Yeah, like Gabby.
How else am I gonna defend

1238
01:11:22,200 –> 01:11:25,600
myself when these fucking crazy
Trump?

1239
01:11:25,600 –> 01:11:31,000
People that live around me
decide to Act up and come after

1240
01:11:31,000 –> 01:11:32,700
me.
You know, I’m not gonna be using

1241
01:11:32,700 –> 01:11:38,200
illegal gun certainly not.
Yeah.

1242
01:11:38,200 –> 01:11:40,000
That’s just the most baffling
thing.

1243
01:11:40,000 –> 01:11:43,600
That this crowd, that started
out as well.

1244
01:11:43,600 –> 01:11:47,700
We have to have guns to keep us
safe from a tyrannical.

1245
01:11:47,700 –> 01:11:52,500
Government have done this 180
over the past couple decades to

1246
01:11:52,500 –> 01:11:55,900
where they’re now like, oh, we
love the government so much.

1247
01:11:55,900 –> 01:11:57,800
Oh my God, President Trump.
You kidding.

1248
01:11:58,000 –> 01:12:01,400
I’m me President Trump like
yeah, that’s the government we

1249
01:12:01,400 –> 01:12:03,400
want forever.
And it’s like why?

1250
01:12:03,400 –> 01:12:07,700
Because you think you can say
the n-word and public, you’re

1251
01:12:07,700 –> 01:12:11,000
willing to give up all your
ideals for that and it’s like,

1252
01:12:11,000 –> 01:12:13,500
yeah, we sure are.
Yeah, that’s, that’s absolutely,

1253
01:12:13,500 –> 01:12:16,400
I’m excited to do it.
Oh my God.

1254
01:12:16,900 –> 01:12:20,200
Yeah, that’s the thing is like,
that’s why I kind of said that

1255
01:12:20,300 –> 01:12:24,500
top is like the actual militias
and groups who are fully

1256
01:12:24,500 –> 01:12:30,700
anti-government are, I think?
A lot smaller of a voice now

1257
01:12:30,800 –> 01:12:34,500
than maybe, then they used to be
in the 90s definitely because

1258
01:12:34,500 –> 01:12:38,300
they were definitely huge in the
90s that’s like, you know,

1259
01:12:38,300 –> 01:12:41,800
McVeigh and and the Unabomber
and all these guys who were just

1260
01:12:41,800 –> 01:12:46,300
hardcore, anti-government, I
think that is a little passé.

1261
01:12:46,400 –> 01:12:50,900
Now I think it’s much more.
We want to be an authoritarian

1262
01:12:50,900 –> 01:12:53,800
but our size authoritarian right
now.

1263
01:12:53,800 –> 01:12:57,500
You guys you guys don’t get it
only us.

1264
01:12:57,900 –> 01:13:00,400
I think that’s the main
motivating factor.

1265
01:13:00,500 –> 01:13:02,900
I mean, like obviously there’s
still the anti-government types

1266
01:13:02,900 –> 01:13:05,900
trying to like get in and and
make their moves.

1267
01:13:05,900 –> 01:13:11,700
But yeah, man crazy times, truly
truly crazy.

1268
01:13:11,900 –> 01:13:15,700
But uh, yeah.
And again, I’m not saying the

1269
01:13:15,700 –> 01:13:20,700
government has been on a crusade
of good to rid the country of

1270
01:13:20,800 –> 01:13:23,400
bigots.
I just think they want to get

1271
01:13:23,400 –> 01:13:27,800
rid of dissent all together and
I think I think you’re

1272
01:13:28,000 –> 01:13:29,300
Government.
I think you’re, I think you’re

1273
01:13:29,300 –> 01:13:31,700
thinking kiss the government.
I think you, I think you love

1274
01:13:31,700 –> 01:13:35,000
them because that’s the thing I
brought up on the on pops pod

1275
01:13:35,000 –> 01:13:37,900
yesterday.
To is that even if there’s this

1276
01:13:37,900 –> 01:13:43,400
big clash and we see the
government just like mowing

1277
01:13:43,400 –> 01:13:48,100
people down, like do we then
trust the government to not just

1278
01:13:48,100 –> 01:13:50,700
do the same thing when there’s a
black lives matter protest.

1279
01:13:50,700 –> 01:13:53,000
I sure don’t.
And when they didn’t think, when

1280
01:13:53,000 –> 01:13:56,500
they do, they’ll be like you
cheered for it last time and

1281
01:13:56,500 –> 01:13:57,800
we’ll be right, but that was
different.

1282
01:13:57,900 –> 01:13:59,800
And I’ll be like turns out it
wasn’t.

1283
01:13:59,800 –> 01:14:02,100
That’s why I’m not cheering
about any of the F.

1284
01:14:02,200 –> 01:14:06,100
Like that’s why I don’t agree
with the people who are trying

1285
01:14:06,100 –> 01:14:08,300
to narc to the FBI about these
people.

1286
01:14:08,300 –> 01:14:11,100
I think that is morally.
Reprehensible if you are a

1287
01:14:11,108 –> 01:14:16,100
little, if you’re a leftist or a
liberal and you know, I just

1288
01:14:16,700 –> 01:14:20,300
they’ll get what’s coming to
them eventually, by one way, or

1289
01:14:20,300 –> 01:14:24,100
another or whatever, but the FBI
are not your friends, just

1290
01:14:24,100 –> 01:14:27,600
because they happen to be going
after people that you don’t

1291
01:14:27,600 –> 01:14:30,600
like.
Right now and I don’t but I do

1292
01:14:30,600 –> 01:14:35,500
think that they have these
Fringe right wing groups.

1293
01:14:35,600 –> 01:14:39,700
You know, they think that
they’ve got a lot of the cops

1294
01:14:39,700 –> 01:14:45,300
and the military on their side
honestly, I don’t disagree with

1295
01:14:45,300 –> 01:14:47,200
them.
I don’t really think that they

1296
01:14:47,200 –> 01:14:51,000
are necessarily wrong.
I think that may be a lot of.

1297
01:14:51,008 –> 01:14:56,700
I think there’s more people in
those positions who agree than

1298
01:14:56,700 –> 01:15:02,000
Maybe, People realize and that I
don’t think it would come to if

1299
01:15:02,000 –> 01:15:05,800
it’s just the right wing people,
you know, like doing something

1300
01:15:05,800 –> 01:15:08,700
like they did on the at the
capitol or doing something

1301
01:15:08,700 –> 01:15:11,500
bigger or work, I don’t even
know what it could possibly be.

1302
01:15:11,600 –> 01:15:14,600
I don’t think it’ll come down to
a shootout with the government

1303
01:15:14,600 –> 01:15:16,600
and these and these right-wing
people.

1304
01:15:16,600 –> 01:15:19,700
I don’t think that’ll happen.
I think it’ll there it won’t go

1305
01:15:19,700 –> 01:15:25,200
that far.
They just want to, I don’t know.

1306
01:15:25,300 –> 01:15:27,400
They, I also think the
government would be more than

1307
01:15:27,400 –> 01:15:30,200
happy to.
Let those people think that like

1308
01:15:30,700 –> 01:15:34,600
like the here’s the thing, the
military’s not all going to be q

1309
01:15:34,600 –> 01:15:41,300
and on like q and on is still a
very Fringe belief like like how

1310
01:15:41,600 –> 01:15:45,300
Scientology is huge and by that
we mean there’s 25,000

1311
01:15:45,300 –> 01:15:47,400
scientologists in the United
States.

1312
01:15:47,400 –> 01:15:51,700
Like there’s probably more Q&A
on people than that but even

1313
01:15:51,700 –> 01:15:57,800
then you have to carve out the
police in the military from the

1314
01:15:57,900 –> 01:16:01,700
It’s who just think they’re
LARPing or whatever the fuck.

1315
01:16:01,900 –> 01:16:05,100
But I also don’t think that
cumin on people necessarily make

1316
01:16:05,100 –> 01:16:09,600
up, even the majority of the
people who want ticket took

1317
01:16:09,600 –> 01:16:12,300
action at the capitol, or want
to take action like that.

1318
01:16:12,400 –> 01:16:14,400
Right.
Again, I think that the queue

1319
01:16:14,400 –> 01:16:18,200
and on people, I didn’t see like
I saw a little some Q things

1320
01:16:18,300 –> 01:16:21,600
like scattered throughout the
crowd, but it was mostly the

1321
01:16:21,600 –> 01:16:24,900
don’t tread on me flag and the
trunk flag, and that sort of

1322
01:16:24,900 –> 01:16:26,800
thing.
But I do think that, you know,

1323
01:16:27,000 –> 01:16:31,300
the government is just I think
if the last year in plus has

1324
01:16:31,300 –> 01:16:34,400
proved anything, it’s that the
government is incredibly stupid

1325
01:16:34,400 –> 01:16:37,600
and incompetent in a lot of
ways.

1326
01:16:38,600 –> 01:16:43,500
So I don’t know why I wouldn’t,
I don’t hesitate to assign too

1327
01:16:43,500 –> 01:16:49,200
much strategizing at least
domestic strategizing to them as

1328
01:16:49,200 –> 01:16:51,200
this thing.
So do you think Joe Biden is

1329
01:16:51,200 –> 01:16:53,000
going to die at the
inauguration?

1330
01:16:53,200 –> 01:16:55,100
I have no idea why this is why I
was just saying about

1331
01:16:55,100 –> 01:16:56,900
predictions.
I have no fucking idea.

1332
01:16:57,000 –> 01:16:59,500
I do think he is.
Now, Eurasian day is going to be

1333
01:17:01,000 –> 01:17:07,000
interesting to watch.
I think that if you think that

1334
01:17:07,200 –> 01:17:10,600
nothing is going to happen on
that day than you are hopelessly

1335
01:17:10,600 –> 01:17:14,300
naive but I could never predict
what is going to happen.

1336
01:17:14,600 –> 01:17:17,300
He could just have a William
Henry Harrison term and that’s

1337
01:17:17,300 –> 01:17:20,300
it like that’s just it that’s
his that’s his max you know?

1338
01:17:20,300 –> 01:17:22,600
So yeah I don’t know.
Oh no I think I thought we

1339
01:17:22,608 –> 01:17:26,000
already settled this as long as
the Velvet ropes that he’s dad

1340
01:17:26,000 –> 01:17:29,300
will do great.
Actually, this is the thing.

1341
01:17:29,300 –> 01:17:32,400
I hope that the Biden
Administration, the future by

1342
01:17:32,400 –> 01:17:35,200
the administration is listening
to this podcast, and if they

1343
01:17:35,200 –> 01:17:36,700
are, I’m not going to suck up to
you.

1344
01:17:36,700 –> 01:17:41,600
Like I did the world order and
Aliens, but you should take the

1345
01:17:41,600 –> 01:17:43,400
idea about the Velvet ropes
because I think that is

1346
01:17:43,400 –> 01:17:44,800
dynamite.
Yeah.

1347
01:17:44,800 –> 01:17:46,500
It’s they clearly respect them a
lot.

1348
01:17:46,500 –> 01:17:50,400
They probably never seen them
know.

1349
01:17:50,400 –> 01:17:53,500
They’re all funny thing
stockholders and business.

1350
01:17:53,500 –> 01:17:55,900
People.
Like they’ve seen the Velvet

1351
01:17:55,900 –> 01:17:57,700
Rope or two.
Yeah, they know the rule.

1352
01:17:57,800 –> 01:18:00,000
Rules.
All right.

1353
01:18:00,000 –> 01:18:02,000
Well I think that’s our episode.
This was a long one.

1354
01:18:02,000 –> 01:18:03,500
Thank you both.
I appreciate it.

1355
01:18:04,300 –> 01:18:07,600
This is fun problem.
Do we have anything to plug

1356
01:18:07,600 –> 01:18:10,400
before we get out of here?
Patreon.com on pops?

1357
01:18:10,400 –> 01:18:13,900
On pops, Network that super cast
out tack, that’s all I got slice

1358
01:18:13,900 –> 01:18:14,600
Berg.
What do you got?

1359
01:18:15,200 –> 01:18:18,000
I am with a new company now is
called wax fly.

1360
01:18:18,000 –> 01:18:23,400
It is a record delivery service.
They will send you a package of

1361
01:18:23,400 –> 01:18:27,300
five to six records a month.
If you sign up for annual plan,

1362
01:18:27,300 –> 01:18:30,800
use my name, Slice Pro slim, you
will get 5% off your

1363
01:18:30,900 –> 01:18:33,600
subscription price, but in
pretty cool do is send you a lot

1364
01:18:33,600 –> 01:18:37,800
of good records once a month,
you can listen to them using

1365
01:18:37,800 –> 01:18:40,200
make music.
Do whatever is good for dj’s

1366
01:18:40,600 –> 01:18:45,200
music enthusiasts and producers
since it just like random

1367
01:18:45,200 –> 01:18:47,300
records or do you pick the ones
they send you?

1368
01:18:47,300 –> 01:18:50,500
I’m not totally random.
So it was like you never know.

1369
01:18:51,000 –> 01:18:55,000
Other day, I got a record from,
I got a Jackie Gleason record, I

1370
01:18:55,008 –> 01:18:57,500
got the soundtrack alone All in
the Family.

1371
01:18:57,800 –> 01:18:59,400
Just watch it pretty cool,
though.

1372
01:18:59,600 –> 01:19:02,500
That’s crazy.
Yeah, nice.

1373
01:19:02,600 –> 01:19:04,900
Okay, Olivia, do you got
anything to plug?

1374
01:19:05,000 –> 01:19:06,800
You know, not really.
I’m on.

1375
01:19:06,800 –> 01:19:08,200
I’m on Twitter at.
Hi there.

1376
01:19:08,200 –> 01:19:10,900
Hide our.
I do these podcasts

1377
01:19:10,900 –> 01:19:13,800
occasionally, I got another
thing in the works kind of kind

1378
01:19:13,800 –> 01:19:15,700
of working on.
So hopefully maybe next time on

1379
01:19:15,700 –> 01:19:18,700
I’ll have something a little
more the plug but for now that’s

1380
01:19:18,700 –> 01:19:21,800
it.
All right let’s get out of here.

1381
01:19:21,800 –> 01:19:25,400
Olivia Say Goodbye by slice Berg
say goodbye.

1382
01:19:25,500 –> 01:19:26,900
Hey guys.
Have a good one.

1383
01:19:27,200 –> 01:19:28,500
Goodbye everybody.
Buddy, we love you.