Conspiracy! The Show 169: Behold A Pale Horse Drug

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Hey everybody, Welcome to
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I’m Adam, Todd Brown.
And I’m Olivia hide, our, and we

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are your hosts.
We have a doozy of an episode

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for you this week.
Yeah, we’re talking about

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Ivermectin.
I hope I’m pronouncing that

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right, I think so, but most
people will recognize it more as

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the horse dewormer.
Or that people have been

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poisoning themselves with in an
effort to battle covid-19.

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Yeah.
I feel like we need to preface

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this episode by saying we are in
no way shape or form advocating

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for any medicine other than
weed.

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I think we can both safely.
Say absolutely absolutely.

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I think I think the overarching
like moral of this episode is

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going to be, don’t take a drug
that you’re Doctor didn’t

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prescribe to you?
I think that’s the big thing

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here is that that it’s still do
that.

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It’s going to be that but it’s
also going to be how about we

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all just calm down?
Yes a little bit.

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Yes I think and that is a good,
just a good piece of advice

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outside of this context.
This is actually within this is

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one of those rare episodes where
I guess I guess my my thinking

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here is Is everyone’s kinda
right and also kind of wrong

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about what’s happening?
The the reporting around

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Ivermectin.
Yeah, I was gonna say I don’t

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think necessarily everyone’s
kind of right but like there’s a

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lot of people who are you know
it.

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Oh I don’t mean everyone.
I mean both sides actually have

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seemingly valid points in this
argument but it’s not really

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being treated that way.
I just I just think this is one

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of those stories where people on
both sides need to just can’t

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believe.
I just thought of this on the

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Fly, hold their horses.
A little bit.

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Have you heard about this?
Because I know you said you

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haven’t you haven’t been tuned
into the news lately thing.

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This is the thing II have been
barely able to keep up with any

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sort of news over the last
couple weeks and I’ve basically

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when I have like five minutes,
I’m able to like check Twitter

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and do whatever and then that’s
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So it does seem like this
Ivermectin story just from the

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little bits and pieces I’ve
getting here has kind of

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Uploaded over the last couple
weeks, it went from being kind

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of a nothing to being the big
covid story that everyone is

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talking about for this, like,
period of time.

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And I have been kind of out of
the loop on it.

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I’ve had to do a lot of ketchup.
Yeah, it’s been a story at least

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for a few weeks but I’ll get
into later on in the episode.

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It’s actually a story that’s
been around pre covid 04.

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Sure for sure.
And it’s one of those things

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that’s getting tied.
To the idea of a covid.

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Snake oil salesman.
Yes.

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Which there have been lots and
lots of those.

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Yes, since covid started, it’s a
valid concern.

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It’s a thing that we know has
happened.

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I mean, yeah, it’s an extent
that such an extension of the

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snake oil that the right wing
has been peddling to each other

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for the past.
Like two decades, basically.

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It’s so when I first heard this
story, I was like, oh yeah.

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Well, it’s clearly just another
example of that, right?

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But when you dig into it, I
don’t think this is actually

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that I think there’s an element
of that I think there are

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people.
I don’t it’s not that.

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I think there are clearly people
getting very, very bad advice

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when it comes to Ivermectin and
how to obtain it.

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Yeah.
But I don’t think that’s the

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same thing as the doctors
pushing it as a treatment for

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covid being snake.
Oil salesman because we’re

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talking about two different
products for all intents and

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purposes.
I mean, this might sound

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shocking to some of our
listeners but there might be a

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lot of nuance in this really
complicated.

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Real world situation II.
Hate to say it but it might be

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true.
Wow, nice.

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Both sides is mm.
I know, I know, I’m sorry I

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don’t mean to.
I don’t mean to what about on

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this.
I’m just just speaking my truth.

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What This reminds me a lot of is
the the program that effectively

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killed Jewel or the campaign, I
guess is a better word for it,

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where there were all these
deaths and hospitalizations as a

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result of a disease called
popcorn.

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Lung.
Yeah.

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And it was reported that the
people who are suffering from,

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this were vaping and that’s what
caused it.

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And every article you read had a
big picture of Jewel cartridges

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at the top.
And when into all this stuff

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about how Jewel, cartridges and
cigarettes have the same

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chemicals in them.
But then, the products that were

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actually giving people this
condition where bootleg, hash

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oil cartridges and it’s like
you’re buying a science fiction

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version of weed from a guy.
Ha, ha ha.

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Like, of course, yeah, there are
going to be some inherent risks

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in that, but they, so
successfully tide Jewel pods to

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that night.
Scandal that it fucking killed

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Jewel.
Yeah, I remember all this

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because like you know I smoke a
lot of weed and anybody, at

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least anybody in California, who
smokes, a lot of weed around

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that time, new to not buy shitty
wheat, Bape cartridges like that

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was like just the the word of
mouth among weed.

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Smokers was just like hey just
so you know you don’t want to be

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buying and less.
It’s like got a nice package.

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It look and it’s professionally
made, you don’t want to buy

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anything because like I would go
to like my dispensaries that I

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would go to living in La, I
would say were, you know, almost

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legal, you know, pretty much on
the verge.

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And so you just kind of had to
be a little careful, you know.

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And just make sure that what
you’re getting is straight is

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good.
But yeah, like you would never

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associate it with jewels.
That’s just not the problem.

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Yeah it was it was too.
Two completely different things

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and knowing that that happened
makes me not completely

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unsympathetic with what I guess,
we’ll call them the right.

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Is saying about Ivermectin,
which is that it’s, there is

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some possibly pharmaceutical
industry influence right behind

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the, I would call it
demonization of this drug.

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Yeah, the Dragging, I guess to
use the app, our Lance.

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And it’s like the, it’s
something that people, you know,

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in the way that that online
discourse tends to do, it has

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become the key word that that
you can clown on.

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It’s just writing that you slide
into a joke and I I’m suspicious

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of that because to write this
drug off.

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As just something that is for
horses is very misleading.

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Mm-hmm.
And I think there’s been a lot

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of misleading reporting around
this.

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I feel like I’m going to have to
say this, every 10 minutes.

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I am not endorsing this drug.
I’m not a doctor.

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I don’t know if it works.
I hope I never have to find out

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because I don’t want to have
covid.

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So like I I’m not saying I’m not
siding with anyone in this.

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Yeah.
Argument here.

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No.
Absolutely not deaf.

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And absolutely not like the
kinds of when grifters who are

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latching onto this, as a way to
earn themselves money and infamy

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like, you know, absolutely not
like it’s just that again, this

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is a more nuanced situation
than, you know, I I said

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earlier, don’t take medical
advice or, you know, take drugs

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that aren’t from your doctor but
also, you know, don’t get your

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medical information from some
comic that you follow on Twitter

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whose Like Duncan on something
for easy points.

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Like it’s just, you know, this
is easy.

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You gotta find out that don’t
paint this entire drug with the

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same brush just because it’s
being used by some weirdos,

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right?
And being used improperly by

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weirdos, which is a very
important point, and like, far

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be it from me to suggest that
the pharmaceutical industry

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would gamble with human lives in
the name of protecting their

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profits.
I mean, they handled the oh, I’d

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crisis so.
Well, yeah, absolutely.

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It hasn’t caused so much damage.
Yes, so much of the country.

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Yeah, so but but there are
people who are suggesting that

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and one of the things that
they’re claiming is that the

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talking points around this drug
are?

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I don’t know if people are even
claiming it, but when you look

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into it, the talking points
around this drug, are really

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sensationalised and leave out.
A lot of information that make

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this drug.
Seem like something.

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It’s not.
So that’s all I want to talk

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about.
I’m not here to tell you to take

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drugs.
I’m not going to tell you you’re

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stupid.
If you actually consult a doctor

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and they give you a human dose
of this drug, that s, like, it’s

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trial and error.
Baby covid is a new and exciting

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time, right?
Exactly.

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Yeah, no, I might call you
stupid.

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If you take a pill from a box
that has a horse on, If you take

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the horse version of this you
are an idiot.

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Yeah.
Like look, I’m not going to say.

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I will make funny after that.
But like as far as taking the

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actual drug Ivermectin,
seriously I am for it.

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Like I want to know get to the
bottom of like what is actually

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going on with this drug?
What does it actually do?

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Yes, of just writing it off
altogether and that’s been the

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thing is you’re seeing a lot of
people their knee jerk.

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Into this story is well it
doesn’t work for covid, right?

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And it’s like no, there’s no
proof or evidence so far that it

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works for covid, but there also
isn’t that much that says it

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doesn’t, there’s just not a lot
of information, which makes the

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way they’re pretty, they’re
portraying this drug suspicious

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to me because if it comes to
pass that there are some

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benefits for covid to be had
from taking this drug.

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Most of America is still going
Think of it.

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As what the horse drug.
I’m not taking fucking horse

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drugs.
Right?

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For covid.
And it’s not really a horse

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drug.
No.

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I mean, yeah, of course, the,
this, this is the thing.

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It’s not like they change like
the chemicals for, you know,

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every drug.
If it’s going to be administered

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to a human or an animal, like
obviously there are differences.

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But like usually it’s dosage.
Is the huge difference.

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It’s, it’s dosage and it’s the
non active.

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Audience that they put in animal
drugs.

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Those aren’t the FDA isn’t
evaluating how safe the non

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active ingredient in a horse
drug is if people take it right?

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Because people aren’t supposed
to take horse drugs.

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Yeah.
And obviously the dosage is

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going to be different between a
human and an animal that would

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destroy your car if it walked on
it.

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Yeah.
Like it’s gonna take different

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doses to do the thing.
You I wanted to do and it’s just

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it’s those are not dice you
should roll under any

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circumstances, exactly.
Like it sits it reminds me of

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boric acid which boric acid
comes in a couple different

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versions.
There is a supplement version

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that women can use to combat
yeast infections.

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There is also a version that
kills roaches and I have no

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doubt that the supplement
version might kill a roach.

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But I’m also confident.
You shouldn’t put the roach

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version in your body hehe.
Yes, I think that’s fair to say.

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There’s a reason they’re
marketed as two different things

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and it’s the same thing here.
Like this isn’t an outbreak of

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doctors prescribing Ivermectin
and it’s putting people in the

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hospital, right?
This is people taking horse

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drugs, right?
Which no one has told them to do

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or if they were told to do it,
it was like a Facebook Like at

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no point, have the doctors who
are pushing this been like you

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know if you can’t afford it just
take the horse version.

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Yeah not happening.
What’s interesting?

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which is like, you know, I’m a
trans woman.

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I don’t know if that’s coming as
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Let’s stick to the show.
It doesn’t really come up a lot.

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We’re talking about like a lot
really fucked up shit, but half

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the room gets up and leaves.
Yeah, sorry, I’m sorry.

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Had Am I just lost?
I mean we have an agenda to push

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here so it is true, it is true.
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among trans women is if they are
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prescription for hormone
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and those things, or they have

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other reasons why that is
something that is hard for them

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to get ahold of then.
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progesterone inside of it and
that can have serious side

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probably not, because that’s not
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that you want or need to take.
It’s just designed for a

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different purpose.
They it’s just made for

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something else and it’ll hurt
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If you don’t use it for that
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Like that’s just what this is,
reminding me of a lot of that is

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exactly what it is.
There are people who are hearing

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that this works for covid and
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drugs are expensive and they
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it’s your doctor’s right?
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Like, that’s why second opinions
are a thing.

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Like, if you really want this

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drug, go to a fucking doctor
that will give it to you.

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Yeah, exactly.
Like, oh, you a bunch of them,

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again, you’re rolling the
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That’s, I guess that’s your

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And if your doctor doesn’t want

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to give it to you, there are
people who are to get around

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that whole propaganda are
getting the animal version.

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This is a thing like you have a

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lot better chances if you roll
the dice on your own life with

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human mate, like medicine made
for humans rather than medicine

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made for Animals.
You’d probably better off trying

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to find some quack who will
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even if it’s, you know, not
correct for you then getting the

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animal version, right?
Because at least that doctor has

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some liability if they do
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whereas getting the one made for
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Yeah.
We’re as Chuck.

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At the farm and fleet I’ll sell
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you want.
Yeah.

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Because he didn’t tell you to
take it look Joe getting paid

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minimum wage.
He’s just out there at the

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tractor supply store.
You know he can’t he’s not there

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to give you medical advice.
It is I’m begging you.

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That is the problem right now is
people are taking animal drugs

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but here’s another reason why I
don’t teii this to covid A coil

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salesman, right?
This was happening before covid.

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Yeah.
And this is interesting because

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Ivermectin can treat is rosacea
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humans there is a topical
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and back in 2019 there were all
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people with rosacea who couldn’t
get in Ivermectin.

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Description.
They were going out and getting

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the animal version and rubbing
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poison they were poisoned.
No, thank you very bad and

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because covid is so much more of
a politically charged disease

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than rosacea.
Yeah, it’s just that the

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articles are way different this
time, right?

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And it’s being treated, like the
snake oil salesman thing, and

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it’s like, even Even though
they’re not once, does it come

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up that the people who are doing
this, are actual Trump

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supporters.
I think it’s inferred because

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for one thing Fox News has been
the one Outlet pushing

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Ivermectin the right.
I mean, yeah, absolutely.

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So it kind of stands to reason
and I think that’s why it’s

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getting tied to this idea of
covid snake-oil salesman.

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Yeah, well and I think it’s
interesting in that, you know,

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is coming after a long year of
Bunch of different stories like

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this, you know, maybe not in the
details, but didn’t the broads,

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you know, the headline Strokes,
the Tweet strokes.

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what’s happening in 2019 is that
there is this infrastructure of

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right-wing pundits in place who
are pushing these.

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Were there ready to jump on this
shit and push it as quick as

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they can wear, as it seems like
in 29, like, what was Happening

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in 2019 is like, you know, like
a bunch of people just kind of

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heard about Ivermectin and like
they’re like, oh well, that

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sounds like what’s in this horse
dewormer.

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I bet, I bet if I used that,
then it’ll have the same effect.

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I won’t have to worry about, but
like that, to me, it’s at least

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different in tone than yes.
A bunch of people who are

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politically disinclined to agree
with every approved treatment of

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covid.
Searching around to find

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whatever is not approved.
That seems like it could

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actually work, right?
Right.

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And it’s I’ll bring this up more
at the end of the episode but

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just on the off-chance, anyone
thinks I’m being too?

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Kind to the right.
I would say wasn’t covid.

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Not real like a month ago.
This is what has been dry.

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Like again, I for I, for I’ve
been very indisposed for two for

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the last couple of weeks but
every time Time, I would hear a

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story about Ivermectin.
I would just be like, yeah, you

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guys were just talking about,
not wanting to get vaccines for

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for like the last several
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And now you want to put this
random drug in your body, like

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this just doesn’t really stand
up to any sort of scrutiny.

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And especially when you take
into account that one of the

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arguments here is, well, this is
big Pharma trying to suppress a

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drug that would really help with
covid.

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People Merc owns this drug.
Yeah.

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That is big Pharma like just
again calm down and wait to let

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them fucking test.
It Merc put a statement out on

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their website and they were
like, we don’t know, we don’t

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and here’s here’s part of the
reason it is kind of

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pharmaceutical.
Companies Shenanigans this drug

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is a drug that benefits up to
this point.

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Almost exclusively poor people
like it is a drug that was

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designed to eradicate diseases.
Is that mostly impact poor

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people, which means Merck has
historically not made any money

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on this drug, they literally
give it away for free.

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Yeah, so there probably hasn’t
been a lot of R&D right inside

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Merc when it comes to this drug.
So if you’re wondering why are

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they just now getting on it?
It’s because they don’t give a

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fuck about poor people except
for the part where they give

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them life saving medications.
But right of course of course

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but it’s just not, I don’t think
Merck has That interested in

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this drug and I guarantee if
they find out it’s some kind of

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cure all for covid there in
fucking let you know.

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Yeah. 100% like you would have
to Nuke Merc to stop that from

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happening but also like in look
I’m not a scientist I’m not a

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doctor.
I don’t I’m basically am so many

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Revelations on this.
I say no I’m basically a

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functioning more on II.
Don’t really have much going for

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me and intelligence but like
covid is a virus. – and we’re

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talking about, you know, it
needs like a vaccine, it has to

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be treated.
You have to build up your

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buddies antibodies, in order to
kill it off.

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Like you can’t really kill a
virus with like a pill that you

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swallow really, not really
right?

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I mean, I know they’re, there
are drugs that have antiviral

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properties, that are little
suppress, the virus or whatever,

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right?
And that’s that is one of the,

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the Points of contention.
Here, is that?

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Well, this is an antiparasite
drug.

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Exactly, that’s the thing that’s
I’m kind of sticking on but

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well, I know I put a shit ton of
links in here and listen, if

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you’re one of those.
Oh, I do my own research types,

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fucking buckle up.
When you read the show notes for

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this, there are, if you look at
the way, like, let’s go back to

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people using this for rosacea.
Right?

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And why would people do that?
If you look at the way this drug

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was marketed before, Covid.
It was pushed as a miracle drug.

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Yes.
It’s an antiparasite drug, but

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for one, it basically eradicated
the truth, the diseases, it was

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intended to eradicate.
And there’s all these write-ups

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will talk about them in a minute
where it’s literally called a

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wonder drug.
And it’s described as maybe

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having all of these antiviral
properties for other drugs.

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So of course, people were going
to hear that and be like, fuck,

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I’ll put the, I’ll put the
horse.

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This version on me.
What’s it going to do?

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Turn me into a horse.
That’s fine.

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Horses are powerful.
Enjoy it.

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That’d be great.
So let’s talk about the CDC

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Advisory.
Yes, I think there are some

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interesting things in the CDC
Advisory and one of the things

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that always makes me suspicious
is when scary numbers are only

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presented in percentages.
Yeah, absolutely.

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That’s something.
A lot of the, the reason we’re

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bringing this up, is this is
where a lot of the articles

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about Ivermectin.
This is what they’re referencing

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is this and the FDA statement,
which we’ll talk about.

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And that obnoxious FDA tweet,
which will also get to.

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But in this case you hear all
these shocking statistics about

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how calls to u.s. poison control
centers about Ivermectin,

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exposures have increased
fivefold from pre-pandemic

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Baseline levels and that’s
scary.

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But can I have the numbers?
Did it go from like 125?

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Did it go from 5 to 25?
Did it go from a fat?

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Like what does that mean?
An actual numbers and no one?

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Really that I did find like
individual poison control

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centers that listed actual
numbers and they were like in

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the 30s and 40s a weeks, which
is ending, it’s not nothing,

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right?
No, it’s definitely a trend.

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But even then, you need to know.
Because again, we’re talking

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about a drug that does come in a
human form that has been proven

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to be relatively safe to take.
It’s safe and effective for the

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things that it’s prescribed for,
right?

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And then There’s the animal
drugs it’s not safe to take.

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No, don’t do that.
So how many of these Poison

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Control calls are?
Because of the animal kind?

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And then how many of those were
the result of a doctor saying?

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Hey, I think this might work
take it in these doses that are

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appropriate for human
consumption, right?

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Because one of the numbers in
the CDC Advisory is that

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prescriptions for this drug have
skyrocketed one, they point to

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it happening in July.
They don’t know why that is.

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I think it’s probably because of
the Delta variant.

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Yeah, call me crazy but they say
at one point in August it hit

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88,000 prescriptions in one week
for this drug and that’s a whole

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lot of people.
Yeah.

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So what’s going on with them
right?

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But also and you know going with
what you were saying about how

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many of these percentages were
from people taking the horse

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version like it just because a
bunch of you know, a lot of Will

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got, you know, prescriptions for
this drug?

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How is that working out for
them?

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Like, is that is that doing
anything?

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We don’t know like in the you
have to assume if those are

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prescriptions that’s separate
from the horse drug poisoning.

431
00:26:26,700 –> 00:26:29,800
So, like what is happening here?
I mean, you know, I would love

432
00:26:29,800 –> 00:26:30,800
to know.
Yeah.

433
00:26:30,800 –> 00:26:33,800
How many of those people were
poisoned, right?

434
00:26:33,800 –> 00:26:38,600
Because, every article about
this, and the CDC Advisory point

435
00:26:38,600 –> 00:26:42,500
to two cases.
One, a guy who took A version

436
00:26:42,500 –> 00:26:46,700
that was intended for use with
cattle and a guy who got pills

437
00:26:46,700 –> 00:26:51,000
of quote in undetermined
strength and quote from the

438
00:26:51,000 –> 00:26:54,500
internet and took five a day
until he started hallucinating.

439
00:26:55,100 –> 00:26:59,200
I’ve eaten.
Like, look don’t take pills that

440
00:26:59,200 –> 00:27:03,200
you don’t know off the internet.
I got know that that even needs

441
00:27:03,200 –> 00:27:07,400
to be said, but I guess it does.
Life isn’t a music festival.

442
00:27:07,400 –> 00:27:09,600
Don’t just take the pills that
people hand.

443
00:27:09,600 –> 00:27:12,100
You like, what a music festival.
It’s Fine.

444
00:27:12,900 –> 00:27:15,100
Like I remember it when I was in
high school.

445
00:27:15,100 –> 00:27:18,700
This kid brought the school a
baggie that he found as he was

446
00:27:18,700 –> 00:27:20,700
walking to school.
That was full of these purple

447
00:27:20,700 –> 00:27:23,300
and black bills.
And he was like, I think I’m

448
00:27:23,300 –> 00:27:26,200
gonna take these.
I’m like, I don’t think you

449
00:27:26,200 –> 00:27:29,600
should do.
We don’t know what those are and

450
00:27:29,600 –> 00:27:34,300
then he took them and that kid,
you know, he was kind of fucked

451
00:27:34,300 –> 00:27:37,700
up, Mike.
I don’t know.

452
00:27:37,700 –> 00:27:40,300
This is it.
He was not acting very normal

453
00:27:40,300 –> 00:27:41,600
for the rest of the day.
I don’t know what.

454
00:27:41,800 –> 00:27:45,100
Those bills were still but like
that’s just all I could think

455
00:27:45,100 –> 00:27:46,700
about.
When someone talks about getting

456
00:27:46,700 –> 00:27:50,600
a bunch of undisclosed pills,
off of the internet, it’s like

457
00:27:50,600 –> 00:27:52,800
you have no idea.
You’re gonna end up, you’re

458
00:27:52,800 –> 00:27:56,000
gonna end up sticking your hand
in a bowl of hot water.

459
00:27:56,000 –> 00:27:58,800
Until it burns just like that.
Kid did.

460
00:27:59,400 –> 00:28:01,600
Yeah.
And one of the things you see

461
00:28:01,600 –> 00:28:06,000
when they’re warning about this
drug is, well, you can overdose

462
00:28:06,000 –> 00:28:09,700
on it and it’s like, you can
overdose on Tylenol Jesus.

463
00:28:09,700 –> 00:28:11,400
Yeah.
Like, you know, not as you know,

464
00:28:11,700 –> 00:28:15,700
Tom’s, that’s that’s not a
unique trait and they’ll point

465
00:28:15,700 –> 00:28:19,500
to like, well it can give you
some tum-tums, can give you some

466
00:28:19,500 –> 00:28:21,500
tummy issues.
If you take it and it’s like

467
00:28:21,500 –> 00:28:25,400
listen to any prescription drug
commercial at the end, there are

468
00:28:25,400 –> 00:28:28,300
several that end with and even
death.

469
00:28:28,300 –> 00:28:35,000
Yes, but sometimes the risks
don’t outweigh the benefit and

470
00:28:35,000 –> 00:28:40,800
also a lot of times, you know,
those risks are very low in the

471
00:28:40,800 –> 00:28:44,300
right, they have A list it
because they have to cover their

472
00:28:44,300 –> 00:28:47,600
ass.
And yeah, so I don’t think it’s

473
00:28:47,600 –> 00:28:52,000
a right wing talking point to
ask what happened to the people.

474
00:28:52,000 –> 00:28:54,800
This was prescribed to.
Yeah.

475
00:28:54,800 –> 00:28:58,500
Where are those crazy stories
about them?

476
00:28:58,500 –> 00:29:02,400
Calling Poison, Control sites.
That is not really a politically

477
00:29:02,400 –> 00:29:05,400
charged statement.
Like that is just the basics of

478
00:29:05,408 –> 00:29:07,700
what shouldn’t be no shouldn’t
be.

479
00:29:07,700 –> 00:29:10,500
But like, that’s the basic as
what you should be asking of a

480
00:29:10,500 –> 00:29:14,700
government agency.
See is please give me the act

481
00:29:14,700 –> 00:29:18,200
like the effects of this
situation as you understand

482
00:29:18,200 –> 00:29:21,400
them.
And like, I, I can’t completely

483
00:29:21,400 –> 00:29:26,400
fault the CDC here because they,
this is not approved for use

484
00:29:26,400 –> 00:29:30,700
with covid, so they can’t, they
can’t paint it in any way.

485
00:29:30,700 –> 00:29:34,700
That makes it seem like it is,
their job here is to scare

486
00:29:34,700 –> 00:29:40,100
people into not taking animal
drugs like and, you know, and

487
00:29:40,100 –> 00:29:43,500
again like we were saying,
Beginning just the whole the

488
00:29:43,500 –> 00:29:46,600
whole thing here and what
they’re trying to say is don’t

489
00:29:46,600 –> 00:29:51,200
take drugs like consult your
doctor before you take a new

490
00:29:51,200 –> 00:29:55,100
drug get a prescription go
through the right channels you

491
00:29:55,100 –> 00:29:58,100
know know once it no one is
saying that you absolutely

492
00:29:58,100 –> 00:30:02,900
positively should never take
Ivermectin ever or else you’re a

493
00:30:02,900 –> 00:30:05,400
fucking crazy person.
They’re just saying look at talk

494
00:30:05,400 –> 00:30:08,300
to an expert talk to someone.
Who knows bodies.

495
00:30:08,400 –> 00:30:14,600
But I do feel like that once The
CDC, put this statement out the

496
00:30:14,600 –> 00:30:17,500
media, kind of ran with it as
look.

497
00:30:17,500 –> 00:30:20,900
People barely ever take this
like, this is, this is a drug

498
00:30:20,900 –> 00:30:25,700
for animals.
So steer clear and not quite,

499
00:30:25,700 –> 00:30:29,800
but before we get to that, let’s
talk about the FDA statement

500
00:30:29,800 –> 00:30:33,100
because a lot of the Articles
you read just say the FDA has

501
00:30:33,100 –> 00:30:35,500
not approved ivermectin for
treatment of covid, and they

502
00:30:35,500 –> 00:30:40,000
just leave it at that.
But I guess the most well-known

503
00:30:40,000 –> 00:30:43,800
FDA response was They tweeted
you are not a horse.

504
00:30:44,000 –> 00:30:47,100
You are not a cow seriously.
Y’all stop it.

505
00:30:47,400 –> 00:30:49,400
And listen.
Don’t fucking seriously.

506
00:30:49,400 –> 00:30:51,400
All me.
You were the I FDA and we’re in

507
00:30:51,400 –> 00:30:55,600
the middle of a pandemic yet on
a goddamn suit and do your job.

508
00:30:56,100 –> 00:30:59,600
But trying to be Charming on the
fucking internet put on a

509
00:30:59,600 –> 00:31:02,900
goddamn suit.
Absolutely.

510
00:31:03,000 –> 00:31:05,000
Yeah.
This is one of the blessings of

511
00:31:05,000 –> 00:31:10,700
being overwhelmingly busy and
unable to look at Twitter has

512
00:31:10,700 –> 00:31:13,200
been that I missed that
completely.

513
00:31:13,200 –> 00:31:18,800
I did not see that tweet and I
did not know about it until you

514
00:31:18,800 –> 00:31:22,400
put it in these notes and I
hated it so much.

515
00:31:22,400 –> 00:31:26,900
I really despised reading it.
This is a whole move.

516
00:31:26,900 –> 00:31:29,400
The animal version Just Hits
different.

517
00:31:29,800 –> 00:31:34,500
Shut up.
I like, I just I absolutely hate

518
00:31:34,500 –> 00:31:36,700
it.
When government officials use

519
00:31:36,700 –> 00:31:38,900
Twitter, I hate so much the
minute.

520
00:31:38,900 –> 00:31:41,200
Obama started doing it.
We should have been like, nope.

521
00:31:41,200 –> 00:31:42,500
Nope.
Absolutely not.

522
00:31:42,500 –> 00:31:46,400
No, you’re banned banned.
We did not because he was so

523
00:31:46,400 –> 00:31:48,900
nice.
No, no, no one should have a

524
00:31:48,908 –> 00:31:54,100
Twitter if you if you are paid
by me like it in my tax dollars.

525
00:31:54,500 –> 00:31:58,900
Agreed.
So the real FDA statement is a

526
00:31:58,908 –> 00:32:03,400
little more substantial and it’s
kind of its kind of alarming to

527
00:32:03,400 –> 00:32:08,000
me like not completely but there
the point one of the points that

528
00:32:08,000 –> 00:32:12,000
really stood out under the when
can taking Ivermectin In be

529
00:32:12,000 –> 00:32:15,400
unsafe heading.
The first line is the FDA has

530
00:32:15,400 –> 00:32:18,600
not reviewed data to support use
of ivermectin in covid-19

531
00:32:18,600 –> 00:32:21,000
patients to treat or to prevent
covid-19.

532
00:32:21,000 –> 00:32:23,600
Yeah.
It’s like okay, why not?

533
00:32:23,900 –> 00:32:27,300
Yeah, but also like I mean I
don’t know like that’s kind of

534
00:32:27,300 –> 00:32:31,600
fare like you know it’s not like
Ivermectin would be anyone’s

535
00:32:31,600 –> 00:32:37,300
first like thought about this
and covid-19 has been around.

536
00:32:37,300 –> 00:32:40,200
Since I would say I’m going to
just go out on a limb here and

537
00:32:40,200 –> 00:32:44,900
say late 29th.
I mean based on the name it’s so

538
00:32:44,900 –> 00:32:49,500
like you know I would guess it
makes sense to me that they have

539
00:32:49,500 –> 00:32:54,000
not done that but at the same
time that should be their

540
00:32:54,000 –> 00:32:57,500
statement.
Not this fucking seriously.

541
00:32:57,500 –> 00:33:02,000
Y’all tweet like like tweet we
have not reviewed this data.

542
00:33:02,000 –> 00:33:05,000
We are currently investigating.
We do not really have all the

543
00:33:05,000 –> 00:33:07,200
information.
We’re trying to find it out, do

544
00:33:07,200 –> 00:33:10,000
not take a drug that is not
prescribed to you by a doctor,

545
00:33:10,000 –> 00:33:11,000
right?
And that’s it.

546
00:33:11,008 –> 00:33:11,800
That’s all.
Saul.

547
00:33:11,800 –> 00:33:14,400
It is guys and I’m not even a
professional.

548
00:33:14,400 –> 00:33:16,800
Yeah.
And another thing I found

549
00:33:16,800 –> 00:33:21,100
interesting that I feel like a
lot of media reports about this

550
00:33:21,100 –> 00:33:24,700
are leaving out is that after
that statement about not

551
00:33:24,700 –> 00:33:28,700
reviewing data they did add some
initial research is underway

552
00:33:28,800 –> 00:33:33,300
which you might recognize as
being a far cry from LOL horse

553
00:33:33,300 –> 00:33:34,900
drugs.
Yeah.

554
00:33:35,000 –> 00:33:39,600
So that’s where I feel like
people on the left who are

555
00:33:39,600 –> 00:33:44,900
responding to this also It
actually all sides taken that

556
00:33:44,900 –> 00:33:48,000
one statement, right?
Calm down.

557
00:33:48,000 –> 00:33:52,300
Yeah, like it’s not, it’s
clearly, not just a horse drug

558
00:33:52,300 –> 00:33:55,900
if trials and research are
underway which we’ll get to.

559
00:33:55,900 –> 00:34:00,000
There’s a lot of research
underway I would say in this

560
00:34:00,000 –> 00:34:07,900
applies to a lot of stuff on the
internet, but if you had not

561
00:34:07,900 –> 00:34:13,800
heard of ivermectin before, too,
Weeks ago, I would say you are

562
00:34:13,800 –> 00:34:19,300
not allowed to be outraged by it
until you find out a little bit

563
00:34:19,300 –> 00:34:22,100
more information.
That’s all it is like eye and

564
00:34:22,100 –> 00:34:27,199
look I get the knee jerk.
Like you see the usual

565
00:34:27,300 –> 00:34:31,500
right-wing Peddlers and grifters
latching onto this as their way

566
00:34:31,500 –> 00:34:36,000
to get infamy and whatever.
Like I understand that knee

567
00:34:36,000 –> 00:34:38,900
jerk.
I want to be as far away from

568
00:34:38,900 –> 00:34:43,000
those assholes as I possibly can
but You can’t just throw the

569
00:34:43,000 –> 00:34:46,000
baby out with the bathwater so
to speak.

570
00:34:46,100 –> 00:34:49,199
Yeah.
Like you gotta you’re supposed

571
00:34:49,199 –> 00:34:53,000
like, you know, if you’re on the
left or even if you’re a

572
00:34:53,000 –> 00:34:57,000
liberal, I’ll extend this to the
Centrist to, you’re supposed to

573
00:34:57,000 –> 00:35:01,400
be the ones who think about
things and take shit, seriously.

574
00:35:01,400 –> 00:35:05,700
And listen to The Experts and
fucking like, appreciate Nuance,

575
00:35:06,400 –> 00:35:09,100
do that?
Yeah, that’s what I would say.

576
00:35:09,400 –> 00:35:12,500
And in light of that, you would
have To ask yourself.

577
00:35:12,500 –> 00:35:17,000
Well why is the FDA even
considering this exactly if it’s

578
00:35:17,000 –> 00:35:19,700
just a horse drug?
Which sweat it’s being portrayed

579
00:35:19,700 –> 00:35:22,900
as and it’s because it’s not a
horse drug, right?

580
00:35:23,000 –> 00:35:27,400
It is a widely used medicine
that earned the people who

581
00:35:27,400 –> 00:35:31,700
developed it a Nobel Prize for
medicine in 2015.

582
00:35:31,800 –> 00:35:33,600
Yeah.
It’s it’s produced from a

583
00:35:33,607 –> 00:35:37,500
microorganism that was
discovered in 1973 by a

584
00:35:37,500 –> 00:35:42,200
researcher named Satoshi, omura
and that evolve Into a

585
00:35:42,200 –> 00:35:47,200
Veterinary drug that entered the
market way back in 1981 but a

586
00:35:47,200 –> 00:35:52,000
few short years later, I think
it was 1987, it was confirmed to

587
00:35:52,000 –> 00:35:54,900
be useful for treating some
human conditions also.

588
00:35:54,900 –> 00:35:57,900
So they synthesized it into a
human version.

589
00:35:58,200 –> 00:36:00,900
Specifically, it was provided
free of charge to

590
00:36:00,900 –> 00:36:06,100
poverty-stricken populations to
treat a condition called on Co

591
00:36:06,600 –> 00:36:11,100
Searcy Isis and mercifully
nicknamed river blindness.

592
00:36:11,500 –> 00:36:12,900
Yeah, let’s just go with very
violence.

593
00:36:12,900 –> 00:36:17,000
I think you actually nailed it
that, that is a fucking toughie.

594
00:36:17,000 –> 00:36:22,000
That is a tough word and that’s
what omura and his research

595
00:36:22,000 –> 00:36:24,200
partner.
William Bell, who by the way

596
00:36:24,600 –> 00:36:28,600
represents Merc he is the Merc
half of the development of this.

597
00:36:29,000 –> 00:36:32,500
So again if you think this is
big Pharma suppressing, it

598
00:36:32,700 –> 00:36:35,900
you’re probably right.
But it’s also big Pharma pushing

599
00:36:35,900 –> 00:36:40,100
its name was William Bell from
Fringe who’s played by Leonard

600
00:36:40,100 –> 00:36:43,100
Nimoy.
Sorry I’m a I love the show

601
00:36:43,100 –> 00:36:45,800
Fringe and there’s like a major
character played by Leonard

602
00:36:45,800 –> 00:36:48,400
Nimoy on that show whose name is
William Bell.

603
00:36:48,400 –> 00:36:50,800
And he’s a mad scientist who
went to another dimension.

604
00:36:50,800 –> 00:36:53,400
Its whole thing, probably his
him who might be?

605
00:36:53,600 –> 00:36:58,700
Hey, it’s time from Aliens and
it didn’t just treat river

606
00:36:58,700 –> 00:37:01,400
blindness.
It, damn near eradicated river

607
00:37:01,400 –> 00:37:04,000
blindness?
Which again, like that doesn’t

608
00:37:04,000 –> 00:37:07,500
sound all that interesting to
American listeners, because we

609
00:37:07,500 –> 00:37:10,900
live in a developed Nation with
air conditioning and Nintendo

610
00:37:10,900 –> 00:37:14,800
Virtual Boys, and all the
fucking trappings of Modern

611
00:37:14,800 –> 00:37:15,700
Life.
Yeah.

612
00:37:16,100 –> 00:37:20,500
River blindness is a Tropics
disease that almost exclusively

613
00:37:20,500 –> 00:37:23,900
impacts poor people.
But before Ivermectin, it was

614
00:37:23,900 –> 00:37:28,300
billions of poor people, right?
And I don’t know, does that do

615
00:37:28,300 –> 00:37:31,300
anything for anyone in terms of
how dangerous it is from a

616
00:37:31,300 –> 00:37:33,700
side-effect stand-up standpoint,
right?

617
00:37:33,700 –> 00:37:36,300
Like one of the things that
bothers me about the way this is

618
00:37:36,300 –> 00:37:39,200
being reported.
Is this notion that it’s rarely

619
00:37:39,200 –> 00:37:44,100
used in humans?
It is Globally used in humans.

620
00:37:44,400 –> 00:37:48,800
And even when you look at the
the CDC statement about the

621
00:37:48,800 –> 00:37:51,700
number of prescriptions and how
it skyrocketed, there were

622
00:37:51,700 –> 00:37:53,700
prescriptions for it before
covid.

623
00:37:53,700 –> 00:37:56,100
Yeah.
Like it didn’t go from zero to a

624
00:37:56,100 –> 00:37:58,900
whole bunch.
It was like 3,000 some a week

625
00:37:58,900 –> 00:38:02,600
before that.
That’s not like it’s not aspirin

626
00:38:02,600 –> 00:38:04,000
but that’s not rare.
No.

627
00:38:04,000 –> 00:38:06,400
Yeah it is.
I don’t know man.

628
00:38:06,400 –> 00:38:10,600
It’s just again this is a this
is the whole thing about kind of

629
00:38:10,607 –> 00:38:13,600
whoo.
Getting into like the discourse,

630
00:38:13,600 –> 00:38:17,400
like the the state of discourse
in America is just it takes

631
00:38:17,400 –> 00:38:21,200
something that, you know, has a
lot of nuance and it flattens it

632
00:38:21,200 –> 00:38:24,000
out and it makes it into good
guys and bad guys.

633
00:38:24,000 –> 00:38:30,000
And it totally dismisses all of
this history which is not only

634
00:38:30,300 –> 00:38:33,800
useful in analyzing how good the
drug could be today but also

635
00:38:33,800 –> 00:38:36,600
interesting and like, it’s good
to know this shit.

636
00:38:36,600 –> 00:38:39,000
Yeah.
Ivermectin on its own is just a

637
00:38:39,000 –> 00:38:41,000
fascinating story.
Yes.

638
00:38:41,600 –> 00:38:46,300
About it is very interesting and
if you look at how it was pushed

639
00:38:46,300 –> 00:38:50,100
before covid, I mentioned this a
little earlier, but before I got

640
00:38:50,100 –> 00:38:54,200
tied to this, here’s a headline
from the Journal of antibiotics

641
00:38:54,200 –> 00:38:57,700
in 2017.
So, well before covid, this is a

642
00:38:57,700 –> 00:39:00,400
fucking medical journal, right?
Which medical journal doesn’t

643
00:39:00,400 –> 00:39:02,900
mean like all of medicine agrees
with this?

644
00:39:02,900 –> 00:39:06,700
Like, it was better reviewed and
then they was published.

645
00:39:06,800 –> 00:39:08,400
Yeah.
And that’s why they are our

646
00:39:08,400 –> 00:39:11,300
trials for things, you know, you
tries.

647
00:39:11,500 –> 00:39:14,800
Stuff and see if it works.
And this is a headline from

648
00:39:14,800 –> 00:39:18,600
2017.
Enigmatic multifaceted wonder

649
00:39:18,600 –> 00:39:24,400
drug continues to surprise and
exceed expectations and this is

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00:39:24,400 –> 00:39:29,900
another one from I believe 2011
from the Beloved proceedings of

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Mmm, that’s a good.

654
00:39:39,600 –> 00:39:42,300
Catch for a sponsor.
Yeah, it’s a Deal to?

655
00:39:42,400 –> 00:39:46,500
Yeah, it’s a very expensive
Journal, yes, especially the

656
00:39:46,500 –> 00:39:49,500
part, where you have to pay
someone to translate it here is

657
00:39:49,500 –> 00:39:52,100
the headline from that article
Ivermectin.

658
00:39:52,100 –> 00:39:56,600
Wonder drug from Japan, the
human use perspective, granted,

659
00:39:56,600 –> 00:39:59,400
that last one was co-written by
Satoshi, omura.

660
00:39:59,500 –> 00:40:00,900
Yeah.
Who is the developer of the

661
00:40:00,900 –> 00:40:03,200
drug?
But again, he went on to win the

662
00:40:03,200 –> 00:40:05,800
Nobel Prize for what he was
writing about.

663
00:40:05,800 –> 00:40:09,000
So seems like a guy that you
might be want to listen to I’m

664
00:40:09,000 –> 00:40:09,600
gonna.
Yeah.

665
00:40:09,800 –> 00:40:14,600
So it I feel Like we’re being a
little too dismissive of this,

666
00:40:14,600 –> 00:40:17,900
just because you can also treat
horses with it.

667
00:40:18,000 –> 00:40:19,900
Why are we mad at horse drugs?
Ketamine.

668
00:40:19,900 –> 00:40:21,300
Fucking horse drug.
Right?

669
00:40:21,300 –> 00:40:22,200
Kid.
Will, you know?

670
00:40:22,200 –> 00:40:24,700
Yeah, that’s different specials
that I would say could be.

671
00:40:24,700 –> 00:40:27,700
It’s very special.
Horse is probably love it too.

672
00:40:27,700 –> 00:40:32,300
Ha ha ha ha.
Now let’s talk about the I

673
00:40:32,300 –> 00:40:36,600
think, quality rebuttal, which
is that well this is a parasite

674
00:40:36,600 –> 00:40:40,200
drug, it’s not an antiviral.
Let’s go back to that journal of

675
00:40:40,200 –> 00:40:43,200
antibiotics report.
Last sentence of the first

676
00:40:43,200 –> 00:40:46,300
paragraph today.
Ivermectin is continuing to

677
00:40:46,300 –> 00:40:50,200
surprise and excite scientists
offering more and more promise

678
00:40:50,200 –> 00:40:53,900
to help improve Global Public
Health by treating, a diverse

679
00:40:53,900 –> 00:40:58,000
range of diseases with its
unexpected potential as an

680
00:40:58,000 –> 00:41:02,800
antibacterial.
Antiviral and anti-cancer agent

681
00:41:02,800 –> 00:41:05,200
being particularly
extraordinary.

682
00:41:05,500 –> 00:41:10,200
And again, that is 2017.
So that’s not a snake oil.

683
00:41:10,200 –> 00:41:14,400
Salesman saying, hey, this could
maybe help with viruses.

684
00:41:14,400 –> 00:41:18,000
Also.
Yeah, and also a link y’all to a

685
00:41:18,000 –> 00:41:21,700
report from the Journal of
controlled release which great

686
00:41:21,700 –> 00:41:22,800
fucking name.
Yeah.

687
00:41:22,800 –> 00:41:25,700
For one thing.
So it’s really a good band

688
00:41:26,300 –> 00:41:29,500
controlled release or Journal of
controlled movements.

689
00:41:29,800 –> 00:41:32,400
That could be an album named go
all out.

690
00:41:32,400 –> 00:41:35,200
It’s a medical journal.
Dedicated to research on the

691
00:41:35,200 –> 00:41:37,700
controlled release and delivery
of drugs.

692
00:41:37,700 –> 00:41:40,100
Yeah it’s not.
So it’s not bright part.

693
00:41:40,500 –> 00:41:44,500
Here is a line from that report
which for the record is called

694
00:41:44,500 –> 00:41:48,100
Ivermectin and award-winning
drug with expected antiviral

695
00:41:48,100 –> 00:41:51,200
activity against covid-19, last
line of the first paragraph

696
00:41:51,200 –> 00:41:54,100
under the commentary section
Beyond its invaluable

697
00:41:54,100 –> 00:42:00,700
therapeutic role in river.
Blindness and I There’s two two

698
00:42:00,700 –> 00:42:06,100
things that treats strongly
already Asus we I assist

699
00:42:06,100 –> 00:42:10,700
stronger Lloyd the Asus.
Wow, I’m more professional

700
00:42:10,800 –> 00:42:13,900
podcast.
Network has someone on staff who

701
00:42:13,900 –> 00:42:17,100
confirms this kind of stuff,
because I know someone who does

702
00:42:17,100 –> 00:42:20,000
that job for a more professional
podcast Network.

703
00:42:20,100 –> 00:42:22,300
Hello a diocese.
I’m gonna go with that.

704
00:42:22,300 –> 00:42:24,400
I think that sounds good.
I think you got it.

705
00:42:26,100 –> 00:42:29,400
Let me, let me start over Beyond
its invaluable, therapeutic

706
00:42:29,400 –> 00:42:32,100
role.
Role in river, blindness and the

707
00:42:32,100 –> 00:42:36,200
other one, an increasing body of
evidence points to the potential

708
00:42:36,200 –> 00:42:40,800
of ivermectin as an antiviral
agent and it goes on to list a

709
00:42:40,808 –> 00:42:44,400
few different viruses that it’s
shown promise in treating and in

710
00:42:44,400 –> 00:42:46,900
some cases it’s just like in
mice and shit that.

711
00:42:46,900 –> 00:42:47,900
You hear that?
Yeah.

712
00:42:47,900 –> 00:42:52,800
It lists West Nile, Virus,
yellow fever, some leaky Forest

713
00:42:52,800 –> 00:42:55,500
virus that that one we’ve all
had that one.

714
00:42:55,600 –> 00:42:59,400
Yeah I mean I always get virus
in some leaky Forest.

715
00:43:01,900 –> 00:43:03,900
It’s written by a bunch of
doctors.

716
00:43:04,100 –> 00:43:06,900
Most of them are from Brazil,
but there is one American.

717
00:43:07,000 –> 00:43:11,100
You xenophobic fucks last name
is Roger M, Le Blanc from the

718
00:43:11,100 –> 00:43:14,100
Department of Chemistry at
University of Miami, not a ton

719
00:43:14,100 –> 00:43:17,600
of information about them online
and I think that’s a good thing.

720
00:43:17,700 –> 00:43:21,300
I mean maybe I don’t know.
It’s tough to say, see it can

721
00:43:21,300 –> 00:43:25,600
either be good and that he’s a
healthy human being who does not

722
00:43:25,600 –> 00:43:29,600
have an active online presence
or it could be bad in that.

723
00:43:29,700 –> 00:43:31,100
He’s like a fake person or
something.

724
00:43:31,100 –> 00:43:32,600
I don’t know.
I didn’t.

725
00:43:32,600 –> 00:43:36,700
What I didn’t find as a bunch of
articles about him claiming the

726
00:43:36,700 –> 00:43:39,100
election was stolen in that
covid is a hoax.

727
00:43:39,400 –> 00:43:41,200
Well then, yeah, that’s what are
wondering.

728
00:43:41,200 –> 00:43:45,400
And he has a real person.
I found like his, his page at

729
00:43:45,400 –> 00:43:47,800
the University of Miami.
And that’s, I think another

730
00:43:47,800 –> 00:43:50,000
important detail.
The people pushing this are not

731
00:43:50,000 –> 00:43:54,300
covid, deniers like, there’s no
one here saying covid is fake,

732
00:43:54,300 –> 00:43:57,400
but take our drug anyway.
Excite Fox News, right?

733
00:43:57,400 –> 00:43:59,500
That’s the thing.
Yeah, they just muddying up.

734
00:43:59,700 –> 00:44:02,800
Everything, but the American
doctor pushing this.

735
00:44:02,800 –> 00:44:08,000
The hardest is a guy named dr.
Pierre Corey and aside from,

736
00:44:08,100 –> 00:44:11,100
there’s two things.
He’s the one pushing Ivermectin,

737
00:44:11,100 –> 00:44:14,300
the most so that has tainted his
reputation.

738
00:44:14,300 –> 00:44:18,900
He like spoke in front of the
Senate and people didn’t respond

739
00:44:18,900 –> 00:44:21,900
to it very well.
Also, one of the doctors he’s

740
00:44:21,900 –> 00:44:25,900
working with a guy named Paul
Malik has this controversy from

741
00:44:25,900 –> 00:44:29,600
the past where he was trying to
treat.

742
00:44:29,700 –> 00:44:32,400
Eat god, dammit.
I forget what the condition was

743
00:44:32,400 –> 00:44:35,600
but he was basically trying to
treat it with vitamin C, okay?

744
00:44:35,600 –> 00:44:39,000
And eventually another medical
journal came out and was like

745
00:44:39,300 –> 00:44:43,400
doesn’t work and he admitted it
it didn’t work also but does

746
00:44:43,400 –> 00:44:47,000
that mean he’s completely
discredited when it comes to

747
00:44:47,000 –> 00:44:49,800
medical stuff?
Because again that’s what trials

748
00:44:49,800 –> 00:44:52,400
are for this to see if something
works.

749
00:44:52,400 –> 00:44:57,600
That’s science IQ you just
described a normal science

750
00:44:57,800 –> 00:45:01,400
scientists reaction to that.
Sort of It is like, oh well I

751
00:45:01,400 –> 00:45:04,400
guess it doesn’t right then
let’s try something else like

752
00:45:04,400 –> 00:45:07,400
that’s how it is.
And both of these people are

753
00:45:07,400 –> 00:45:11,200
still employed in perfectly
prominent positions in their

754
00:45:11,200 –> 00:45:13,900
field.
Pierre Corey spent a lot of

755
00:45:13,900 –> 00:45:18,400
years in various roles at the
University of Wisconsin and or

756
00:45:18,400 –> 00:45:21,400
UW Health, which is the
University of Wisconsin’s

757
00:45:21,400 –> 00:45:25,900
Hospital, including working as
medical director for the trauma

758
00:45:25,900 –> 00:45:29,000
and life support center.
He won an award from the British

759
00:45:29,000 –> 00:45:32,400
Medical.
Association in 2015 for his work

760
00:45:32,400 –> 00:45:36,300
on a medical textbook and it’s
not like he’s pushing this via

761
00:45:36,300 –> 00:45:39,000
Word of Mouth.
Like, he’s written a bunch of

762
00:45:39,000 –> 00:45:42,000
stuff about this, which is why
it bothers me so much when

763
00:45:42,000 –> 00:45:44,400
people are like, show me the
evidence.

764
00:45:44,400 –> 00:45:48,500
Not like he’s got, I don’t know
if it’s valid evidence but go

765
00:45:48,500 –> 00:45:51,900
read it.
Like it’s one of the things

766
00:45:51,900 –> 00:45:55,000
people criticize is that he’s
not doing like controlled

767
00:45:55,000 –> 00:45:59,300
clinical trials and their
argument is well this is working

768
00:45:59,300 –> 00:46:02,800
and This is a public health
emergency, it would be kind of

769
00:46:02,800 –> 00:46:07,000
unethical of us to give people a
placebo and know that they might

770
00:46:07,000 –> 00:46:10,400
die.
And I don’t know, I don’t know

771
00:46:10,400 –> 00:46:15,000
about that argument, but I do
know that there is history of

772
00:46:15,000 –> 00:46:17,400
using stuff.
That’s not completely

773
00:46:17,400 –> 00:46:21,100
FDA-approved to fight covid.
The vaccine was not sure,

774
00:46:21,100 –> 00:46:26,400
FDA-approved note, which is
another reason it’s so ironic.

775
00:46:26,600 –> 00:46:30,600
Fox News types are pushing this
because what was their whole

776
00:46:30,600 –> 00:46:32,400
argument?
Like not their whole argument,

777
00:46:32,400 –> 00:46:36,200
the like there was The Fringe
who was like, it’s a government

778
00:46:36,200 –> 00:46:39,700
plot to enslave us, all right?
But then, there was that more

779
00:46:39,700 –> 00:46:43,600
level-headed response, which is
what’s not FDA approved yet.

780
00:46:43,600 –> 00:46:47,400
So why would I take it once?
It’s FDA approved, I’ll take it.

781
00:46:47,400 –> 00:46:51,000
Well, this is an FDA approved
for covid the in the fucking

782
00:46:51,000 –> 00:46:55,900
horse pills for damn sure.
Aren’t you know Che so yeah I

783
00:46:55,900 –> 00:46:58,700
don’t know.
Like I’m not in a position to

784
00:46:58,700 –> 00:47:04,400
judge if The huge document.
This guy put out about his

785
00:47:04,400 –> 00:47:07,000
research.
In this field is convincing

786
00:47:07,000 –> 00:47:10,500
enough to fucking take
Ivermectin, but I think it’s

787
00:47:11,600 –> 00:47:15,700
just another example of how this
is not a horse drug.

788
00:47:15,700 –> 00:47:19,800
Like there is way more to this
story than just some fucking

789
00:47:19,900 –> 00:47:23,600
wackos.
Take an animal pills and I do, I

790
00:47:23,607 –> 00:47:26,300
even want to talk about this
fucking crystal is the article.

791
00:47:26,300 –> 00:47:29,500
I mean, I’m not gonna lie, man.
I have I did not read.

792
00:47:29,600 –> 00:47:32,900
Dit.
But fuck, he’s so much.

793
00:47:33,000 –> 00:47:36,500
Yeah, he’s bad times.
He’s like, he’s one of the worst

794
00:47:36,500 –> 00:47:38,700
journalist working currently.
Yeah.

795
00:47:38,700 –> 00:47:42,900
And if you’re not familiar, he’s
an opinion columnist for CNN.

796
00:47:43,000 –> 00:47:45,600
Yeah, basically.
And he wrote this article

797
00:47:45,900 –> 00:47:50,900
responding to Rand Paul’s
assertion that Trump hatred has

798
00:47:50,900 –> 00:47:54,500
kept the powers that be from
honestly investigating the

799
00:47:54,500 –> 00:47:58,200
efficacy of ivermectin in
treating covid, and I think he’s

800
00:47:58,200 –> 00:47:59,500
wrong, too.
Yeah.

801
00:48:00,000 –> 00:48:03,900
First, my problem with Crystal
is has take, is that he more

802
00:48:03,900 –> 00:48:08,000
than a lot of the other articles
out there goes, really hard

803
00:48:08,100 –> 00:48:11,700
trying to make Ivermectin seem
like something humans, almost

804
00:48:11,700 –> 00:48:13,600
never take.
Yeah, he calls it.

805
00:48:13,600 –> 00:48:18,200
A quote, drug used in rare
instances in humans.

806
00:48:18,200 –> 00:48:22,100
This is a drug again that
billions of people have taken

807
00:48:22,200 –> 00:48:26,800
globally, right?
And I I’m just suspicious when

808
00:48:26,900 –> 00:48:30,300
someone reports on something
that fucking And poorly.

809
00:48:30,300 –> 00:48:32,600
Is it just that he’s bad at his
job?

810
00:48:32,600 –> 00:48:36,300
Yes.
But is he like this does have

811
00:48:36,300 –> 00:48:39,100
some elements to it that feel
like a smear campaign.

812
00:48:39,100 –> 00:48:44,300
Yeah and if anyone is capable of
orchestrating, a smear campaign

813
00:48:44,300 –> 00:48:48,400
in the media, especially from a
financial standpoint, it’s

814
00:48:48,600 –> 00:48:50,300
fucking pharmaceutical
companies.

815
00:48:50,300 –> 00:48:52,300
Oh, absolutely.
So yeah.

816
00:48:52,300 –> 00:48:57,100
I’m just, I’m, I’m curious as to
why the need to push this drug

817
00:48:57,100 –> 00:49:01,500
in these articles all across the
Media as something that’s just

818
00:49:01,500 –> 00:49:06,100
for horses and that only people
only take it in extreme

819
00:49:06,100 –> 00:49:07,800
circumstances.
Yeah.

820
00:49:07,800 –> 00:49:11,200
Like there’s no scientific
evidence, that proves it can

821
00:49:11,200 –> 00:49:16,300
treat covid.
But there’s also no reason to

822
00:49:16,300 –> 00:49:21,200
act like the actual drug is some
kind of unknown thing that were

823
00:49:21,200 –> 00:49:23,900
not familiar with because it’s
mostly used in animals.

824
00:49:23,900 –> 00:49:27,300
There’s so much information
about this drug out there.

825
00:49:27,600 –> 00:49:31,800
Yeah, I mean is Is it, is it
possible that it’s all just a

826
00:49:31,800 –> 00:49:36,000
case of bunch of people?
Seeing who a lot of the main

827
00:49:36,000 –> 00:49:40,400
voices for this are and just
writing it off without even

828
00:49:40,400 –> 00:49:44,600
bothering to do any work on it?
I know that’s how it is for

829
00:49:44,600 –> 00:49:46,400
anybody who’s just tweeting
about it.

830
00:49:46,400 –> 00:49:49,600
But like, it feels like that’s
what the news outlets are doing

831
00:49:49,600 –> 00:49:50,800
to.
They’re not even putting the

832
00:49:50,800 –> 00:49:53,700
effort in to cover it in any
sort of proper way.

833
00:49:53,800 –> 00:49:57,500
Well, I think it is and I think
that does have a lot to do with

834
00:49:57,500 –> 00:50:00,200
it because again, it’s mostly
like, Fox News.

835
00:50:00,200 –> 00:50:03,300
I’m sure, 11, American News
network is pushing it too.

836
00:50:03,600 –> 00:50:09,300
And that feels kind of the same
along the same lines as like,

837
00:50:09,300 –> 00:50:14,000
tabloids and the 80s and 90s,
like the National Enquirer was

838
00:50:14,000 –> 00:50:15,900
mostly bullshit.
Yeah.

839
00:50:16,000 –> 00:50:19,800
But occasionally, they would
pick up on a story that no one

840
00:50:19,800 –> 00:50:22,200
else was covering and they would
be right.

841
00:50:22,200 –> 00:50:26,800
Like the they basically solve
the murder of Bill Cosby sun and

842
00:50:26,800 –> 00:50:29,500
it’s cos ya, they are the ones
that broke the story.

843
00:50:29,600 –> 00:50:33,500
Story that solve that case their
coverage of the o.j. trial was

844
00:50:33,500 –> 00:50:38,300
fucking impeccable.
Yeah, sometimes the outlet you

845
00:50:38,300 –> 00:50:41,100
don’t like gets it right?
Like the Wall Street Journal is

846
00:50:41,100 –> 00:50:47,000
a pretty, conservative outlet,
but also a very respected force

847
00:50:47,000 –> 00:50:49,500
in journalism.
Like it happens.

848
00:50:49,500 –> 00:50:53,500
And I’m not saying Fox news is
that but I mean yeah I’m just

849
00:50:53,500 –> 00:50:55,700
saying they’re not completely
wrong.

850
00:50:55,700 –> 00:50:58,000
In saying this is something
people should look into if

851
00:50:58,000 –> 00:50:59,400
they’re on.
They’re saying take the horse.

852
00:50:59,600 –> 00:51:03,100
Version that’s obviously very
long honestly I think we can.

853
00:51:03,400 –> 00:51:09,100
I think we can very easily just
cleanly separate like our take

854
00:51:09,200 –> 00:51:14,800
on this whole thing from what
fox is trying to do where Fox is

855
00:51:14,800 –> 00:51:17,200
just very credulous, Lee being
like?

856
00:51:17,200 –> 00:51:19,900
No the everyone’s blowing this
way out, of course, Just Trucks

857
00:51:19,900 –> 00:51:22,300
totally fine.
This is all, you know, this is

858
00:51:22,300 –> 00:51:24,900
all but board and whatever it
we’re just like no.

859
00:51:24,900 –> 00:51:27,800
Like this thing.
Gotta you gotta look into this.

860
00:51:27,800 –> 00:51:30,900
There’s like a lot of stuff
going on here that you just

861
00:51:30,900 –> 00:51:36,100
can’t easily write off, right?
And on the flipside of that, for

862
00:51:36,100 –> 00:51:40,400
four people, I guess on the left
to have written this off, there

863
00:51:40,400 –> 00:51:44,100
are a lot of preliminary trials
underway.

864
00:51:44,200 –> 00:51:47,300
Yeah.
For this drug, as it relates to

865
00:51:47,300 –> 00:51:52,400
covid, the CDC Advisory
statement, even links to a

866
00:51:52,400 –> 00:51:54,700
website called
clinicaltrials.gov.

867
00:51:54,700 –> 00:51:58,200
Yeah.
Where you can search and see

868
00:51:58,200 –> 00:52:00,700
what trials are happening right
now.

869
00:52:00,700 –> 00:52:06,200
If you run the words Ivermectin
and covid through their search

870
00:52:06,200 –> 00:52:12,900
engine, you get still scrolling
75 studies.

871
00:52:13,100 –> 00:52:16,600
And so I just wait, just give it
time.

872
00:52:16,600 –> 00:52:18,100
Like people are looking into
this.

873
00:52:18,100 –> 00:52:23,700
There’s no reason to act like
this drug is some kind of huge

874
00:52:23,700 –> 00:52:25,800
problem when it’s not people
taking.

875
00:52:25,900 –> 00:52:29,900
Animal drugs is a huge problem.
It was happening before covid.

876
00:52:29,900 –> 00:52:33,000
The the we can’t act like this
drug is a huge problem.

877
00:52:33,000 –> 00:52:37,400
We can’t just blindly believe
that it is the the miracle cure

878
00:52:37,400 –> 00:52:41,100
that’s going to save us.
All from a, from a virus that we

879
00:52:41,100 –> 00:52:43,700
don’t even believe is real.
Like, you know, there’s a middle

880
00:52:43,700 –> 00:52:46,000
ground here and I, you know, I’m
no Centrist.

881
00:52:46,000 –> 00:52:51,500
But like Jesus like, yeah.
Like this is, it’s very easy to

882
00:52:51,500 –> 00:52:54,500
not immediately.
Leap to the most extreme

883
00:52:54,500 –> 00:52:57,800
conclusion in this case.
Case, which is, I really think

884
00:52:57,800 –> 00:53:03,500
that a lot of this is just a
full symptom of our already

885
00:53:03,700 –> 00:53:09,800
rapid discourse machine, just
being pumped into overdrive like

886
00:53:09,800 –> 00:53:12,600
five times over through the last
year.

887
00:53:12,600 –> 00:53:18,000
Like we everybody spends even
more time on their phones and

888
00:53:18,000 –> 00:53:23,400
online and on their computers.
And it just, it makes its

889
00:53:23,400 –> 00:53:26,800
accelerated, our discourse to a
level where We’re not even

890
00:53:26,800 –> 00:53:29,700
getting we’re not even waiting,
until we get all the information

891
00:53:29,700 –> 00:53:32,500
in before everything.
We’re just jumping on it, we

892
00:53:32,500 –> 00:53:36,900
have made a moral Proclamation
about everything having to do

893
00:53:36,900 –> 00:53:39,500
with this subject and if
anything disagrees with that,

894
00:53:39,500 –> 00:53:43,900
well then that’s a fucking lie
or that’s being pushed by

895
00:53:44,200 –> 00:53:47,600
scammers or whatever.
It’s just everybody needs to

896
00:53:47,600 –> 00:53:51,300
take a big breath.
Take a deep breath and chill out

897
00:53:51,300 –> 00:53:55,800
and like yeah, examine thing and
if you’re questioning whether

898
00:53:55,900 –> 00:53:57,700
Well, okay.
But who’s researching it?

899
00:53:57,700 –> 00:54:01,200
Is it like a bunch of like,
fucking right-wing startups.

900
00:54:01,200 –> 00:54:05,000
There’s one study that is being
conducted jointly by the

901
00:54:05,000 –> 00:54:08,300
University of Minnesota UCLA in
Northwestern.

902
00:54:08,300 –> 00:54:10,700
Yeah.
And that one’s also testing

903
00:54:10,900 –> 00:54:13,400
diabetes drug as a possible
treatment.

904
00:54:13,400 –> 00:54:16,600
That’s how it fucking works.
Yeah, we’re sometimes drugs work

905
00:54:16,600 –> 00:54:20,500
for other things than what they
were intended for people.

906
00:54:20,500 –> 00:54:24,900
I feel like people really want
to figure this covid thing out

907
00:54:25,400 –> 00:54:27,100
they want.
They want to get to the bottom

908
00:54:27,100 –> 00:54:29,100
of this.
No one’s happy with covid.

909
00:54:29,100 –> 00:54:33,600
Crazy crazy.
There’s a Duke University trial,

910
00:54:33,600 –> 00:54:37,100
there’s a private company,
called Pro Gina biome, which

911
00:54:37,100 –> 00:54:41,000
deals with like, gut microbes
are doing clinical trials.

912
00:54:41,000 –> 00:54:43,400
I’ll link to it.
There’s a whole searchable,

913
00:54:43,400 –> 00:54:45,500
database it.
Yes, a lot of the trials are

914
00:54:45,500 –> 00:54:48,800
happening in other countries,
but that’s kind of how the

915
00:54:48,800 –> 00:54:51,500
United States works.
Like we’re not we’re not as

916
00:54:51,500 –> 00:54:53,700
adventurous when it comes to
science.

917
00:54:53,700 –> 00:54:55,500
It believe it or not other
countries.

918
00:54:55,800 –> 00:54:59,900
These are also trying to figure
out how to deal with covid so

919
00:54:59,900 –> 00:55:01,400
shit.
Right.

920
00:55:01,400 –> 00:55:06,700
And a lot of them are doing it
without the profit motive right

921
00:55:06,700 –> 00:55:10,100
hanging over there.
Yeah, pharmaceutical industry

922
00:55:10,100 –> 00:55:10,700
solutely.
Yeah.

923
00:55:10,700 –> 00:55:13,300
They’re they’re living in a
country where they don’t have to

924
00:55:13,300 –> 00:55:16,700
pay a thirty-two thousand
dollar, medical field beat bill

925
00:55:16,700 –> 00:55:18,500
for being in a hospital for four
days.

926
00:55:18,500 –> 00:55:22,700
Not that I’m speaking from
personal experience, right?

927
00:55:23,000 –> 00:55:25,300
That is a uniquely American
thing.

928
00:55:25,300 –> 00:55:27,700
Yes.
Is pharmaceutical company.

929
00:55:27,800 –> 00:55:31,200
Pharmaceutical companies are why
we have Obamacare.

930
00:55:31,300 –> 00:55:33,300
Yeah.
Because Obama went to them and

931
00:55:33,300 –> 00:55:36,000
was like, Hey, that loophole
that allows you to charge like,

932
00:55:36,000 –> 00:55:38,800
15,000 dollars a pill for stuff.
I’ll leave that open.

933
00:55:38,800 –> 00:55:41,200
If you help me pass Obamacare.
Yeah.

934
00:55:41,200 –> 00:55:44,000
And they got very much on board
with that.

935
00:55:44,100 –> 00:55:46,900
And that’s why Obamacare didn’t
do anything for prescription

936
00:55:46,900 –> 00:55:49,100
drug prices and that’s why it
sucks.

937
00:55:49,200 –> 00:55:52,600
Yeah, the pharmaceutical
industry has a lot of power, so

938
00:55:52,600 –> 00:55:57,300
the fact that this isn’t being
tested As widely in the United

939
00:55:57,300 –> 00:56:00,400
States, as it is in other
countries, I don’t think should

940
00:56:00,400 –> 00:56:02,900
really put you off right that
much.

941
00:56:03,000 –> 00:56:08,000
And it is being tested at least
preliminary, trials are underway

942
00:56:08,300 –> 00:56:11,400
and here’s the thing.
This website is I believe for

943
00:56:11,400 –> 00:56:13,500
people who want to fucking get
in on them.

944
00:56:13,800 –> 00:56:16,700
So if you’re in the Duke
University area, I don’t know.

945
00:56:17,100 –> 00:56:20,100
If you got covid, go hit the
home of the Blue Devils.

946
00:56:20,100 –> 00:56:22,200
See if Mike krzyzewski’s can get
you in.

947
00:56:22,500 –> 00:56:26,500
I mean, I don’t know, man.
This is it is Ruff.

948
00:56:27,200 –> 00:56:32,100
This whole thing is just a rough
and again like just to to bring

949
00:56:32,100 –> 00:56:36,100
It full circle, people on the
right believe science.

950
00:56:36,100 –> 00:56:40,700
Now like like get the you can
you can also get the fuck out of

951
00:56:40,700 –> 00:56:42,600
here.
I mean I’m not–that’s lie in

952
00:56:42,600 –> 00:56:45,500
the one thing that really does
blow up their argument for me

953
00:56:45,500 –> 00:56:49,200
that oh this is big Pharma
trying to suppress this again.

954
00:56:49,200 –> 00:56:51,500
This drug is owned by big
Pharma.

955
00:56:51,500 –> 00:56:54,000
Yeah.
There is a reason Merck has a

956
00:56:54,000 –> 00:56:55,700
statement about it on their
website.

957
00:56:55,800 –> 00:56:58,200
And no other pharmaceutical
companies do.

958
00:56:58,200 –> 00:57:00,300
Yeah.
It’s because Merc owns this shit

959
00:57:00,300 –> 00:57:02,800
in if they can find a way to
make money from it.

960
00:57:02,800 –> 00:57:05,900
They will, there’s a fucking
give it time.

961
00:57:06,100 –> 00:57:10,000
Like you will, you will suckle
at the teat of big Pharma

962
00:57:10,000 –> 00:57:14,600
eventually just like the rest of
us, just be patient and maybe

963
00:57:14,600 –> 00:57:19,500
while you’re being patient like
go get vaccinated or something,

964
00:57:19,500 –> 00:57:22,200
you know like Daphne, I
approved, you know if you’re

965
00:57:22,200 –> 00:57:26,700
thinking about taking the drug
designed for horses, Then maybe

966
00:57:26,700 –> 00:57:30,900
you should try taking a little
shot or two for that’s designed

967
00:57:30,900 –> 00:57:32,500
for people.
You know.

968
00:57:32,500 –> 00:57:35,000
I’m for people to not get covid.
Yeah.

969
00:57:35,000 –> 00:57:39,200
Like let’s not like Ivermectin
stops horses from getting covid.

970
00:57:39,200 –> 00:57:46,100
Yeah, like I got my vaccination
and I only kind of am fucked up

971
00:57:46,100 –> 00:57:47,700
and it’s mostly for other
reasons.

972
00:57:47,700 –> 00:57:51,500
So I think it’s fine what if
it’s like sorry to bother you

973
00:57:51,500 –> 00:57:53,900
and everyone who took the
prescription version is a

974
00:57:53,900 –> 00:57:56,200
literal horse.
Now, Right.

975
00:57:56,200 –> 00:58:00,700
No, maybe that might be true.
That would be amazing to find

976
00:58:00,700 –> 00:58:03,500
out that sometimes they put real
stuff in movies.

977
00:58:03,600 –> 00:58:07,400
Yeah, say, exactly insane.
I mean, look and that movie had

978
00:58:07,400 –> 00:58:11,100
some real stuff at it.
It really, really, just didn’t

979
00:58:11,100 –> 00:58:13,300
know if that would be the part
of it.

980
00:58:13,800 –> 00:58:16,000
So, yeah, I think that’s our
episode, I think.

981
00:58:16,700 –> 00:58:20,400
Again, the message of this
episode is just everyone chill

982
00:58:20,400 –> 00:58:22,700
out.
Talk to your doctor.

983
00:58:22,700 –> 00:58:24,600
Don’t take a drug.
This was a prescribed to you

984
00:58:24,600 –> 00:58:28,500
unless it’s weed.
Or like sisters brothers.

985
00:58:28,500 –> 00:58:35,300
Cool out who’s fighting in what
for it’s a Gimme Shelter

986
00:58:35,300 –> 00:58:37,300
reference.
Very good documentary about the

987
00:58:37,308 –> 00:58:39,000
Rolling Stones, alternate
concert.

988
00:58:39,000 –> 00:58:41,400
That’s a Scorsese done right?
Isn’t that the screw says you

989
00:58:41,400 –> 00:58:44,200
know I know he’d Gap.
No I’m feared another one.

990
00:58:44,200 –> 00:58:46,800
Yeah give me shelter.
The old one that one rules.

991
00:58:46,900 –> 00:58:49,100
Yeah.
You see someone get murdered.

992
00:58:49,100 –> 00:58:52,200
Yeah.
There’s some fucking crazy shit.

993
00:58:52,200 –> 00:58:53,800
That happens to that
documentary.

994
00:58:54,300 –> 00:58:56,000
Yeah.
My favorite moment in In that

995
00:58:56,000 –> 00:59:00,400
documentary is the Grateful
Dead, which I never say that.

996
00:59:00,400 –> 00:59:04,400
Yeah, I don’t like the Grateful
Dead that much but they arrived

997
00:59:04,400 –> 00:59:08,900
by helicopter and they land in.
Someone comes up to Jerry Garcia

998
00:59:08,900 –> 00:59:11,400
and his leg.
Someone in the audience, punch

999
00:59:11,400 –> 00:59:14,600
the lead singer of Jefferson
Airplane in the face.

1000
00:59:15,100 –> 00:59:18,700
Jerry Garcia goes, let’s go and
they get right back in the

1001
00:59:18,700 –> 00:59:21,900
fucking helicopter to get out of
there like he doesn’t even

1002
00:59:21,900 –> 00:59:25,100
entertain the idea of going on
stage.

1003
00:59:25,800 –> 00:59:29,600
Ha ha ha good call.
Yeah, that’s also got a bunch of

1004
00:59:29,600 –> 00:59:34,300
fucking great Altamont shit and
it like that like that whole

1005
00:59:34,300 –> 00:59:36,600
Altamont thing is so fucking
crazy.

1006
00:59:36,800 –> 00:59:40,300
The free concert like yeah.
Yeah they put it they put it on

1007
00:59:40,300 –> 00:59:42,500
a hill.
Yeah on the hill and they were

1008
00:59:42,500 –> 00:59:46,100
like just put a bunch of Hell’s
Angels Bikers around it like

1009
00:59:46,100 –> 00:59:49,600
this, so make it safe.
Yeah, Hells Angels are

1010
00:59:49,600 –> 00:59:52,900
historically, pretty cool.
Meanwhile there’s a scene where

1011
00:59:52,900 –> 00:59:55,300
one of them looks like he wants
to eat Mick Jagger.

1012
00:59:56,000 –> 00:59:58,200
Like he has to be pulled away
from Mick.

1013
00:59:58,200 –> 01:00:01,200
Jagger well, he’s protecting him
anyway.

1014
01:00:01,200 –> 01:00:04,400
Yeah, so I think the other point
of this episode is check out.

1015
01:00:04,400 –> 01:00:09,700
Give me shaggy one of the
wildest rock documentaries ever

1016
01:00:09,700 –> 01:00:11,200
made.
It’s a classic.

1017
01:00:11,800 –> 01:00:14,700
Do we have anything to plug
before we get out of here?

1018
01:00:14,700 –> 01:00:18,300
By the time this goes up, there
will be a level on the patreon

1019
01:00:18,300 –> 01:00:22,600
and super cast where you can
subscribe to pretty scary and

1020
01:00:22,600 –> 01:00:28,600
conspiracy the show as one thing
I I guess I did not realize that

1021
01:00:28,700 –> 01:00:30,900
subscribing to do two different
things.

1022
01:00:30,900 –> 01:00:37,000
At one time is way too much for
the subscription podcast system

1023
01:00:37,000 –> 01:00:40,700
as it stands now.
Hopefully the Techno technology

1024
01:00:40,700 –> 01:00:45,800
will advance to the point that
we can do that someday and

1025
01:00:45,800 –> 01:00:47,600
that’s all I got.
What do you got to plug?

1026
01:00:47,800 –> 01:00:50,200
You can find me on Twitter at.
Hi, there hide are.

1027
01:00:50,200 –> 01:00:54,800
Sometimes a lot right now but
you know, I’ll pop in.

1028
01:00:54,800 –> 01:00:55,900
That’s about it for me.
Me.

1029
01:00:55,900 –> 01:00:59,800
I got other shit to deal with
same.

1030
01:01:00,100 –> 01:01:02,400
Let’s get out of here.
Olivia, say goodbye.

1031
01:01:02,500 –> 01:01:04,200
Goodbye.
Goodbye everybody.

1032
01:01:04,200 –> 01:01:04,700
We love you.