Conspiracy! The Show The Craziest Hip Hop Conspiracies Pt. 1

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I went through the transparent.
You just hold on.

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Hey everybody, Welcome to
conspiracy the show.

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I’m your host, Adam Todd Brown
and this week very special

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co-host who are you slice Berg?
How’s it going man?

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Pretty good at him.
Pretty good after Christmas type

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stuff.
Yeah we’re recording this in

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that mid Christmas New Year’s
week where everyone’s supposed

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to be doing.
But I’m a fucking Tyrant who

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runs this network with an iron
fist.

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So I demand people still work
during that week so here we are.

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Slice Berg is my co-host on a
podcast called pod six about the

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movies of Spike Lee.
And we’re talking about over the

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course of the.
Next two episodes were talking

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about the 10.
Best hip-hop conspiracies of all

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time what makes them the best?
They’re the ones.

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I like the most that’s really
the only criteria.

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Didn’t take it to the people and
ask them to decide just through

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a list together.
Handed it off to slice Berg.

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And now we’re going to talk
about it.

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I think I didn’t.
All right, job, there’s some

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weird shit on this list.
It is the very first one.

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I think.
Sounds like it’s the weirdest,

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but it’s also one of the most
compelling and plausible.

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Like it’s not at all impossible.
That that this is the case.

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The conspiracy is dr.
Dre started the Burning Man

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festival.
Ever been, ever been to burning,

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man?
I have night, but after his

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description of it at that time,
95.

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Yeah, it sounds pretty good.
Yeah, I think I would go to

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that.
Lot of people just what naked

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going, crazy drugs.
I don’t know if I want to be

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with that many people when I’m
high in the desert on drugs,

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like maybe just me, like, some
Jim Morrison shit.

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Just go out in the desert.
You peyote talk to cacti for a

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while, but uh, yeah, this
Theory, it’s the it’s a little

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misleading.
In name the suggestion, isn’t

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that?
He started burning man, because

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Burning Man, technically started
in 1986, which was the same time

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he was starting NWA ever heard
that first NWA album.

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It’s called NWA in the Posse.
It’s been a while.

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But when I checked it because
you mentioned it, I can curse.

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Not that great.
It’s really bad times.

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They didn’t find our identity
yet.

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Yeah.
The album I think everyone

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regards as the first NWA album
is Straight Out of Compton,

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which is man, if you listen to
that, it’s still fucking holds

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up.
If most of those songs came out

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today, they would still fucking
kill.

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But that first album, mmm, bad,
bad times, bad times, it’s

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capable skip it, a lot of songs
by the feel of fresh crew.

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Whoever they are.
It was a was that about, yeah,

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it’s like a compilation album.
It’s got it starts off really

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strong.
It’s got the original version of

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dope man and the original
version of eight ball and then

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it’s just nightmare from there.
Hey about him, discover Yes,

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uh-huh.
He started burning man.

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Is saying, Way Columbus started
America?

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Yeah, pretty much.
Hey, some people here doing

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something I can make money off
of this?

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Possibly, I don’t know.
They’re here we can exploit

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this, these people who are here,
we can exploit that.

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Yeah, you’re right.
So America was founded.

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Yeah, so fast forward to 1995 or
rewind to 1995 depending on how

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much you’re following along, dr.
Dre Ray is in the desert

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somewhere in Nevada, with Hype
Williams, scouting locations for

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the California Love video which
did indeed take place in the

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middle of the desert.
That doesn’t strike me as the

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kind of thing the director and
artists do.

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There’s usually like a scouting
location person good call.

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Yeah, is with it.
Those two specifically are out

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there doing that maybe hype I
can give it height but not A

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yeah, they were both huge at the
time so they certainly wouldn’t

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need to, but I guess quality
control reasons.

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I don’t necessarily have to edit
all the podcasts on this

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network, but I edit most of them
just because I’m I don’t trust

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anyone more than myself to cut
the stuff that I don’t want

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people to hear like it’s not
anything beyond that right now

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times bleed to is Dre.
Always a stickler behind the

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scenes, traveling, with the
directory video, he was in, you

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know what I mean.
He does seem like a bit of a

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perfectionist.
East.

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I mean the detox album was
supposed to come out like five

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different times over the course
of 12 years and then he

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eventually was like, nope, I
don’t, I’m not going to do it.

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But here is another album.
That’s not that good.

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Thanks, Dre.
I’m really Compton album.

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Oh yeah.
It was praised.

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But, yeah.
You think Jay was sculpted

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locations for keep to his
ringing.

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Highly something
post-apocalyptic.

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Yeah, I wonder where they went.
That probably New Jersey.

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Yeah.
They filmed part of World War Z

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in New Jersey and I’ve always
thought that was funny, really.

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It’s like well, we need some
place.

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That looks like the apocalypse
already happened.

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Let’s head to New Jersey, so
weird as it seems Hype Williams,

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and dr.
Dre are the ones in the desert,

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scouting locations for this
video and while he was there, he

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wrote a letter to his then
girlfriend, which I think even

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by 1995, I was over that kind of
shit.

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Yeah you say Letta what you
really mean is original text?

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Yeah this letter is so very
thirsty.

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Yes it almost seems that the
talking to her is coincidental

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because the focus of letter
seems to be that he’s really

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excited about about him and
height scoping this area out.

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And these people in the middle
of the desert.

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Yeah, he does just sort of throw
in the romantic stuff at the

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beginning.
In the end it’s like Kurt

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Cobain’s suicide note, right?
Where?

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It’s just all a fan letter.
And then there’s for suicide

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lines in different handwriting
at the end.

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And everyone was like, yeah, he
obviously killed himself.

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All right.
Should we read the whole letter?

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Yes.
Please here it goes.

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It’s a little long but not that
long.

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Nicole, hopefully you’re doing
well and you realize you need to

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quit fucking with sedale and
come home to your doctor.

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I will take care of you baby.
Girl, I should clarify their

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sedale sedale threatt who was an
NBA player that Nicole was

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married to at the time.
She no longer is please put a

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lake is Denis back in the day.
Yeah.

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So Dr. Dre is breaking up a
happy home here.

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The second part of the letter.
I’m in Nevada.

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With hype.
Looking at spots, for this new

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video, we’re shooting for that
single.

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I told you POC is going to be on
once he’s out.

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It’s called California.
Love we met a bunch of crazy

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naked motherfuckers in the
desert today they were putting

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up some type of giant wood, man.
I guess they have a big party

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here for a bunch of days.
I asked them how much they made

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or Shit.
Got his handwriting sucks.

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Hey, come a good joke about his
handwriting sucks because he’s a

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doctor, ha ha.
Okay, that’s all I want to say

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solid.
I ask them how much they pay.

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They said nothing.
I was like no money someone

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should get behind this shit and
make some loot off these fools

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because they said there will be
at least 5,000 people, I think

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I’ll have my office look into it
just to see if there’s easy

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money to be had here.
I’m about to pass out.

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Girl with I was up in that ass.
See you back in La Dre.

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I love the ending of that
letter.

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Yes, and can I say something
you’ve read that with the same

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excitement, on the particular,
place that letter where where he

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put it at, because that letter
is loaded, it had letter,

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mentions breaking up a home
between neck Nicole and Citadel

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it mentions, the beginning The
Burning Man, it mentions him,

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hang with Hype Williams.
It mentions Tupac coming home

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and just at the end to put the
cherry on top.

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I wish I was up in That ass.
Yeah, it checks a lot of boxes.

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It does, short amount of time,
it’s like a Beatles song.

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A lot of things are happening,
but it’s only like two minutes

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and 12 seconds.
This ship belongs in a fucking

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Smithsonian to something.
This is history.

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This document so many things in
his one day.

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I wonder where this letter is,
besides just on this tumbler

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account that is solely dedicated
to this dr.

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Dre letter, this fucking hip hop
history, these his own wing.

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And here’s the thing.
It seems like a crazy Theory

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still, but not really.
Once you hear that, part of the

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letter, dr.
Dre by 1995 was doing really

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well.
He was on death row.

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Death row was doing great by
this point.

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They’re talking about Tupac’s
All Eyes On Me album and that

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comes out like a few years into
death row, being really huge.

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So he was probably looking for
Investments at the time and

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what’s weird is that letter was
written in 1995 and if you dig

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into the history of burning,
man, that following year is the

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first time, Time there is a
formal Business Partnership set

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up to claim ownership of the
name Burning Man.

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So yes, if it wasn’t dr.
Dre, someone shortly after he

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wrote this letter decided
burning man should be a business

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and I mean coincidence.
Maybe possibly, I buy it a

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little bit just for the fact
that again, in that letter in

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there, will you read it?
His Focus seem to be neither

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Tupac’s coming home that this
Gathering is something.

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Was the bulk of the letter.
It is Gathering.

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Can be profitable more so than
Tupac ass and Hype Williams.

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That’s what his Focus was.
This can be big, he’s clearly

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excited about it right inside
his Venture, he just discussed

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heat quote, unquote discovered a
bit.

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He’s really into this somehow.
I wanted my people should do

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something, and here’s the thing
not just does that formal

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partnership.
Start the next year ever since

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then burning man has been run.
By an outfit called Black Rock

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LLC.
So it’s not really clear who the

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main person behind it is and
it’s been that way also since

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dr.
Dre wrote.

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This letter also 1996 last year,
they held Burning Man Without a

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fence around it.
In 97, they put up a fence with

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just one point of entry so they
could collect ticket money from

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everyone.
And that’s also the Year tickets

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went from $35 to I have to $75.
So someone stepped in in 96 and

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decided to start making money
off Burning Man, is it possible

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that if that’s assumed rate is
associated with it somehow, just

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for the sake of the brand to not
in any way be publicly known you

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know to keep it the audience it
is you know I mean like let’s

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not let people know Dre’s.
Anyway, financially link to this

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to keep the perception.
Yeah, I would think that’s what

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it would have to be, right,
because it would be a weird

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Association that he would just
get questions.

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About for the rest of his life.
Yes.

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And it would be a distraction.
And also, if you really dig into

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the details of what people
allege happened here, the people

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behind Burning Man were having
trouble coming up with the money

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to secure.
The permits to do it every year

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and they argue that Dre stepped
in and was like, well, I’ll

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handle that every year in
exchange for a cut of the ticket

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money, which for him, that’s a
really easy investment.

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He doesn’t have to help.
This thing, he doesn’t have to

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plan it, he just pays a little
money each year and gets a

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return on that money.
I mean, I’m assuming he’s not

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even paying the permits now,
he’s probably just collecting

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money off it.
If this is a real thing.

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So I believe this one I mean
there’s no way I can prove it

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and it wouldn’t be that.
Like if someone did give me

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definitive proof, I’d be like,
oh yeah, that does make sense

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like it’s not that serious,
right?

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As I was not a conspiracy is
almost like just good business.

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Yeah.
Um, everyone When everyone

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involved.
Yeah, it would be a really smart

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investment on his part because
again really hands off.

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You don’t have to do anything.
Although what if he has secretly

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also been very involved in the
planning?

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All the art installations The
Burning Man probably has a Beats

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logo on it somewhere.
Now I can buy that because if

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he’s scoping video shoot
locations, he’s definitely

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micromanage and burn Marina
behind the scenes.

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They did move it shortly after
this.

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Letter happened.
Really moved into a different

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location.
Patient.

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So yeah.
Maybe well.

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Maybe Hype Williams found that
too.

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Wow.
Another another silent investor.

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So I like that theory.
I think I buy it.

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Yeah, this next one though.
I’m not quite so sure.

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But I’m also not quite unsure
that Three 6 Mafia are devil

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worshippers.
This is ripped from the

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headlines because of a recent
Bone Thugs and Harmony versus

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Three 6 Mafia versus Battle
which Turned into a fight

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because Bizzy Bone thought he
was being mocked from the stage.

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And man Bizzy, Bone is a loose
fucking Cannon.

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Loved it every second of it.
I saw it live.

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It was like NBA game, it got so
chippy it did and they when that

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happened and they removed Bizzy
Bone from the stage Three 6

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Mafia.
Like they almost got

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inappropriate with the jokes.
They were like get him his

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pills.
Yeah, cuz he’s got like a long

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history of mental illness.
They were low blows, why low

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blows B, that all was
precipitated by Bizzy, Bone,

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going on Instagram and putting
up this very, very, very long.

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Instagram post about how Three 6
Mafia needed to denounce Satan

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at this versus Battle.
And if they didn’t, then their

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devil worshippers.
I call bullshit on busy side,

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just for the fact that well, one
ninety percent of rappers have

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demonic imagery.
And Initiative.

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Some point to bone, has a lot of
demonic shit narrowly in the

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imagery a lot.
And they address that a little

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crazy said, a lot of label execs
pretty much control, album art

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things promotion, shit didn’t
put in what they want.

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It’s up to the rapid, either, go
with it or maybe they lean into

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it and say, you know, fuck it.
Yeah, we worship the devil, but

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a lot of rappers have that and
Bones, not an exception.

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So that’s a little hypocritical
from busy sparked.

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My opinion.
Yeah, it seems like especially

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Like around the time bone first
came out which would have been

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like mid 90s.
I think.

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Yeah, around 94 95.
Yeah.

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Like especially with Southern
rap it seems like hell and fangs

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of the mice were a really big
deal on album covers and this is

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around the time like horrorcore
starts and now you got

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motherfuckers like TEC-9, who
probably is a fucking devil

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worshiper, that motherfucker’s
crazy.

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It is I think with Three 6
Mafia, it’s more than name, they

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chose which I’ve actually always
taken it as a gang reference

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because I grew up in the Midwest
and the two really big gangs in

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the midwest are the Gangster
Disciples in the Vice Lords and

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three 6 mafia’s from Nashville.
I think which is basically the

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Midwest it’s like cusp of the
South and but still in the

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Midwest and Gangster Disciples
and Vice Lords are the two A

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gangs in the Midwest and both of
them, but especially Gangster

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Disciples have a lot of satanic
stuff in their imagery.

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If you look into it, a lot of
gangs, do, MS-13 does.

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So I always just took this as a
gang reference and I was able to

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find a reference to 666 in the
very wild Gangster Disciple

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literature that is posted on the
internet.

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And it says, 666 is a reference
to three Wars that happened in

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76. 86 + 96.
I don’t know what those Wars

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are.
Maybe Gangster disciples were

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working with the Reagan
Administration and fucking

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things up in South America.
I’ve no idea but I don’t know

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what it means beyond that, but
that’s always what I thought

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this was.
Was that a reference to that?

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That’s interesting.
You grew up in the midwest but

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I’m from the East Coast.
So I took it at face value

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growing up.
If this Three 6 Mafia figures

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was, a cool as way of saying,
worship the devil.

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I didn’t know about the Midwest.
Gang life at that time.

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So I took a literal like most
rappers amazed.

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Just kind of goes with hand.
In hand like rock and roll the

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the devil’s.
They’re spotted the music.

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Yeah, that’s the other thing.
There’s there’s such a long,

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long history of rock, musicians,
like all kinds of artists like

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all throughout history,
especially with artists.

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Yeah.
All genres.

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Yeah.
Yeah.

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Using satanic imagery in one way
or another and a lot of cases

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just because Provocative.
Like if you go and look at Alice

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Cooper in his early days he was
just a shock to the

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sensibilities of so many people.
But if you watch those concerts

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now it’s like this is the
corniest thing I’ve ever seen in

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my life but he would at the time
it was very shocking and he was

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just like he didn’t actually
want to murder little people on

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stage.
He just made it look that way on

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stage because it was
entertaining behind the scenes.

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He was like playing golf and
starting hot dog.

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Restaurants and shit.
So, yeah, it’s a common thing

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and it’s hard to.
I don’t doubt that there’s some

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Satan worshippers in music
there.

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Say there’s people who worship
Satan in real life, I don’t know

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how beneficial it is, but they
do work a bunch of satanic

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imagery into what they do.
But also it seems like it

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hasn’t.
I mean they want a Grammy but it

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doesn’t seem like it’s help that
much.

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It’s not like they’ve had a
Stranglehold on music.

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This whole time, they had like
that one moment when they got

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lucky enough to be on the
hustle.

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Flo soundtrack, what a great
movie.

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And then, after that, it was,
they were just back to like the

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Master P of their region.
Maybe I was a do.

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Hey satan.
Can we won a Grammy?

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That’s it as one that we want to
Grammy.

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That’s all really.
It’s not too much.

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Is it that Satan?
They should have asked, but

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should ask for more in
retrospect?

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Yeah, maybe, maybe you test it.
Like, I doubt it works.

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Holy shit.
It worked.

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We should ask for more.
It does.

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Make people want to talk about
them though.

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It’s still a thing that’s being
brought.

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It up in 2021 when they embark
on a versus Battle.

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Also, I don’t really care like
if they want to worship Satan

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fucking do.
It doesn’t mean I have to I

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don’t think they’re going to
open any portals that are going

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to send demons into the world
that are going to destroy us.

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That’s just movie shit.
Yeah, I don’t think DJ Paul,

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isn’t that much of Alchemists.
Um, also to see this is just

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like it.
I don’t know what bizzy’s any

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game is or was with it.
Like, okay is I think there’s

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hype just a show.
Just like wrestling, like it’s

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because you can detect any
rapper, he, if that’s the case

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he may.
You have a long list of other

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rappers who do the same thing.
It’s not his own group members,

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like it’s just going – it’s
pointless.

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Yeah.
And what was he going to do?

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If they did denounce Satan
right?

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That would have that would
almost been more Awkward because

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then you gotta be like, oh okay
I guess we’re done here.

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Thank you.
I’ve been busy bone.

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I’m gonna go back to the green
room and not participate in any

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of this.
Yeah.

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Because he’s He’s off his meds,
but all of that said, when I was

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researching this, I found a very
weird article from 2013, it’s an

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interview with 36 member
Gangsta.

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Boo, who was the woman in the
group?

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This article, it’s an interview
on Yahoo sports naturally,

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that’s so weird.
And it wasn’t just, they posted

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an interview from somewhere
else, like it was one of their

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podcast that interviewed her and
then it Went up on Yahoo sports

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and in this interview she talks
a whole bunch about

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experimenting with witchcraft.
After joining the group here is

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one of her quotes.
I dippold and dabbled in

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witchcraft because I was young
and I wanted to know what the

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dark side was about.
I’ve always heard about it and

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we were in this group called
Three 6 Mafia.

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So I wanted to be as dark as
possible.

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That’s a weird, quote, I guess.
I mean, she was young at the

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time and people experiment with
stuff like that, but you would

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think even then, Then like upon
joining the group someone would

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have been.
Like, by the way, the 36 thing

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is just our name.
Like we actually we go to church

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every Sunday not the Church of
Satan.

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It’s all very pleasant, so don’t
don’t worry about that.

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Just just a name.
She apparently was not told that

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because she started dabbling in
dabbling in witchcraft.

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I don’t know if Dibble is even a
thing.

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It’s not.
But so so my thing is did Yahoo

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sports.
I can’t remember, did they ask

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her this?
Or did he just submit this

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information?
Just just for the hell of it.

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Like, if no one asks, you, that
that’s pretty specific thing to

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bring up.
No, I’m, they did ask her about

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it.
They asked her about the rumors

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that they were satanists,
because even back in 2013, those

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rumors existed.
I mean, that’s going to happen.

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If you that you call yourself
Three 6 Mafia, they’re not from

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the South but there’s sort of
from the south, and I imagine

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satanic image.
Jury goes over even worse in the

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South than it does in other
parts of the country.

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The Bible boat.
Yeah, yeah, that’s where it

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religious people are fucking
getting bit by snakes on purpose

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and talking in tongues and shit.
Was it with why is Yahoo sports

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inquiry?
Is just such.

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What are they going for
defamation as a Stacks involved

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in this, what’s crazy is it’s
not even going to be the last

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Yahoo article that we pull a
reference from Yahoo.

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I’m telling you, that’s how, you
know, if an outlet is being

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monitored and controlled by the
government like I am confident,

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Yahoo is not.
I’m confident.

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Newsweek is not.
I’m confident The Daily Beast is

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not because they have all
recently covered very huge

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stories.
That should have been huge on

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the Washington Post and the New
York Times but they just weren’t

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for some reason.
It’s not like like How do you

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find out?
That there is a nationwide

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network of like 50,000 spies
that the Department of Defense

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has been putting together for
like, the last 10 years and the

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Washington Post doesn’t run that
on the front page that is huge

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news and it was not reported
anywhere but Newsweek.

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Wow, that’s good to know.
So those are the ones that

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seeing but the stand true.
Yeah.

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So you heard it here.
First, I trust you Newsweek and

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Yahoo sports yells.
Whoops is giving You

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hard-hitting, shit hard-hitting,
satanic Worship in rap music

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news.
Here’s another quote from

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Gangsta, Boo.
I bought a witchcraft book, my

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mama put me out the house.
It’s not that I was sitting in

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the circle, practicing
Illuminati, scriptures or

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whatever.
I was just young and when you’re

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young, you explore.
I was exploring and I do like

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certain things about the dark
side because it’s Mystic.

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It’s wicked.
It’s sexy.

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You know, I like to be
mysterious what are Illuminati

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scriptures.
Is, is that a thing I should

434
00:24:04,500 –> 00:24:07,100
know about?
I think so, I’m gonna look into

435
00:24:07,100 –> 00:24:09,100
that.
Can I find those online?

436
00:24:09,100 –> 00:24:12,400
Like the Gangster Disciples
literature is got to because and

437
00:24:12,400 –> 00:24:15,800
I’m sure you need to obtain so
many bowls of knowledge.

438
00:24:16,000 –> 00:24:19,800
Yeah, yeah, have to be
knowledgeable.

439
00:24:20,100 –> 00:24:27,100
Oh, nailed it.
All right, let’s talk about this

440
00:24:27,100 –> 00:24:30,700
next Theory.
Do you remember troop?

441
00:24:30,700 –> 00:24:34,300
Yes, I do the clothing line.
Most people back in that time,

442
00:24:34,600 –> 00:24:37,300
the late 80s, hip-hop, which is,
it’s a staple.

443
00:24:37,400 –> 00:24:41,500
Yeah, if anyone listening isn’t
familiar with what troop

444
00:24:41,900 –> 00:24:44,700
clothing looked like, go watch
any LL.

445
00:24:44,700 –> 00:24:46,800
Cool.
J video from his first two

446
00:24:46,800 –> 00:24:50,900
albums, like especially the
video for I’m bad, the he’s

447
00:24:50,900 –> 00:24:53,200
wearing all sorts of troop in
that.

448
00:24:53,400 –> 00:24:56,700
It was kind of expensive.
It was Really cool clothing line

449
00:24:56,700 –> 00:24:57,900
for a while.
Yeah.

450
00:24:58,200 –> 00:25:01,000
And then all of a sudden there
were these rumors that they were

451
00:25:01,000 –> 00:25:05,400
owned by the KKK and man, they
were not able to beat those

452
00:25:05,400 –> 00:25:09,300
rumors, which is pretty crazy
pre-internet.

453
00:25:09,300 –> 00:25:10,300
Yeah.
Priya.

454
00:25:10,300 –> 00:25:12,600
And it was good for getting
things started.

455
00:25:12,600 –> 00:25:14,700
We’re about mouth, but it also
can fuck you because it was

456
00:25:14,700 –> 00:25:17,000
something bad you.
There’s no way to get your word

457
00:25:17,000 –> 00:25:20,000
out that it is wrong.
So you kind of live and die by

458
00:25:20,000 –> 00:25:23,400
public opinion back then.
So they thought it is true and

459
00:25:23,400 –> 00:25:24,600
you finished.
Yeah.

460
00:25:24,600 –> 00:25:27,700
And There, were, there were
rumors like this, about a bunch

461
00:25:27,700 –> 00:25:30,000
of, not a bunch, but a few
different companies.

462
00:25:30,000 –> 00:25:33,800
Snapple mmm, at one point people
said was owned by the KKK,

463
00:25:33,800 –> 00:25:37,800
because one of the ships on
their early packaging was said

464
00:25:37,800 –> 00:25:42,300
to be a slave ship, but it was
actually a ship from the Boston

465
00:25:42,300 –> 00:25:47,800
Tea Party, so it probably wasn’t
used for slaves until much

466
00:25:47,800 –> 00:25:52,000
later, right?
Like more like more recently, I

467
00:25:52,008 –> 00:25:54,200
didn’t know the reason for that,
I didn’t know the kid.

468
00:25:54,200 –> 00:25:57,300
We heard that And as I am with
you all, enjoy drinking

469
00:25:57,300 –> 00:25:59,300
delicious and apples.
I was like, fuck.

470
00:25:59,300 –> 00:26:02,500
Okay, we don’t know the reason
we just like I guess this KKK

471
00:26:02,500 –> 00:26:04,800
juice.
That’s Snapple peach tea.

472
00:26:05,200 –> 00:26:09,000
Hmm that’s living right there.
Also marburo it’s not like an

473
00:26:09,000 –> 00:26:12,600
actual K but if you look at
their logo it says Marlborough

474
00:26:12,600 –> 00:26:16,800
and then there’s this shape
above it, that is like a

475
00:26:16,800 –> 00:26:20,800
rectangle but then there’s like
a V carved out in the middle.

476
00:26:20,800 –> 00:26:23,400
So it looks like okay, and
there’s one of those on each

477
00:26:23,400 –> 00:26:28,100
side of Marlboros.
And so people said that means

478
00:26:28,100 –> 00:26:31,100
they’re owned by the KKK and
probably not.

479
00:26:31,100 –> 00:26:33,200
They just like, they just kill
people.

480
00:26:33,300 –> 00:26:35,800
Like they don’t, they don’t
discriminate right?

481
00:26:35,900 –> 00:26:39,500
And I think that’s what happens
when you smoke.

482
00:26:39,500 –> 00:26:42,200
And look at anything too long,
you’re going to find three case

483
00:26:42,200 –> 00:26:46,100
on it.
Yeah it just inaudible not much.

484
00:26:46,100 –> 00:26:51,500
Just got it three case.
So Snapple in Marlborough

485
00:26:51,500 –> 00:26:55,600
obviously overcame these rumors
troop did not.

486
00:26:55,700 –> 00:26:59,800
They were especially susceptible
to it because their Market was

487
00:26:59,800 –> 00:27:02,000
predominantly Black and
Hispanic.

488
00:27:02,200 –> 00:27:08,900
Like, according to their sales
manager, it was 95% Black and

489
00:27:08,900 –> 00:27:10,200
Hispanic.
Right?

490
00:27:10,200 –> 00:27:14,100
So now my job is seems like the
KKK room was would do more

491
00:27:14,100 –> 00:27:18,000
benefit for the other two Brands
as opposed to troop as well as a

492
00:27:18,000 –> 00:27:19,100
plus.
For the other ones.

493
00:27:19,100 –> 00:27:22,400
Like you’re drinking it.
You pop a snap open and you read

494
00:27:22,400 –> 00:27:24,100
the top.
It says we’re late.

495
00:27:24,100 –> 00:27:28,500
The delay is KKK newsletter.
Is you say yeah it can see you

496
00:27:28,508 –> 00:27:31,600
drinking it.
But you know, you’re not

497
00:27:31,600 –> 00:27:33,600
weighing troop.
Yeah.

498
00:27:33,600 –> 00:27:36,300
That there would be a whole part
of the the nation that would

499
00:27:36,300 –> 00:27:38,500
just Embrace Snapple in
Marlborough more.

500
00:27:38,600 –> 00:27:40,700
Right even today.
Yeah, would happen.

501
00:27:40,800 –> 00:27:43,800
They be moves Free Speech.
You can like whoever you want

502
00:27:43,800 –> 00:27:48,800
exactly but troop, it didn’t go
so well, one of the rumors Was

503
00:27:48,800 –> 00:27:52,900
that because they were owned by
the KKK, the name troop was

504
00:27:52,900 –> 00:27:57,200
actually an acronym that meant
to rule over oppressed people,

505
00:27:57,300 –> 00:28:02,500
which is crazy because it
requires that people believe the

506
00:28:02,500 –> 00:28:06,100
KKK thinks black people are
oppressed and that is not their

507
00:28:06,100 –> 00:28:08,800
business model, they think.
Black people need to be more

508
00:28:08,800 –> 00:28:12,300
oppressed, right?
Kidding too free in that, it’s

509
00:28:12,300 –> 00:28:15,900
threatening our white way of
life, so they’re not that.

510
00:28:15,900 –> 00:28:19,100
There’s no way the KKK would
refer to black people as

511
00:28:19,100 –> 00:28:20,800
oppressed.
Don’t you hear these kind of

512
00:28:20,800 –> 00:28:24,000
things always have slick-ass
acronyms to try to help support

513
00:28:24,000 –> 00:28:26,300
it like, oh, come on.
I got, I mean, look at, look at

514
00:28:26,300 –> 00:28:27,500
troop.
I mean, look, what it stands

515
00:28:27,500 –> 00:28:29,500
for.
I mean, it makes sense, right?

516
00:28:29,600 –> 00:28:33,400
What I don’t get about it is
what would be the point?

517
00:28:33,500 –> 00:28:35,800
Like what?
So you’re selling clothes the

518
00:28:35,800 –> 00:28:39,100
black people that’ll show him
like that’s not nice, right?

519
00:28:39,100 –> 00:28:40,800
You’re not really hurting
anyone.

520
00:28:41,000 –> 00:28:44,700
You’re just giving LL Cool J
recognizable, sweatshirts to

521
00:28:44,700 –> 00:28:47,400
wear in his videos.
If anything it was just a rumor

522
00:28:47,400 –> 00:28:50,100
started by a rival.
Clothing company its price talk

523
00:28:50,100 –> 00:28:53,700
about Karl, Kani.
Yeah.

524
00:28:55,000 –> 00:28:56,700
Daymond John, something like
that.

525
00:28:57,400 –> 00:29:01,100
The other rumor was that if you
cut the lining of the jacket

526
00:29:01,200 –> 00:29:04,500
open, there would be a slip of
paper that said Thank you and

527
00:29:04,500 –> 00:29:08,300
word for making us rich.
That’s like for one thing that

528
00:29:08,300 –> 00:29:12,700
would be an extra cost in the
production line that most

529
00:29:12,700 –> 00:29:15,100
companies just aren’t going to
like, that would be frivolous

530
00:29:15,100 –> 00:29:19,400
spending two things, one know
and I can speak for all black

531
00:29:19,400 –> 00:29:21,700
people.
When I says, if any black person

532
00:29:22,300 –> 00:29:24,700
bought a tree Jacket.
I’m going to see you.

533
00:29:24,900 –> 00:29:29,300
We’re not cutting this shit up
and see you if we did and sort

534
00:29:29,300 –> 00:29:32,800
of there that would be so dope.
Like I got the authentic moment

535
00:29:33,000 –> 00:29:36,000
and that’s the tells me it’s
like says, nigger, something

536
00:29:36,000 –> 00:29:38,100
like this, this is real shit,
fight it.

537
00:29:38,200 –> 00:29:40,400
Yeah honey, can I get one when I
find out?

538
00:29:40,400 –> 00:29:42,400
If it did, I’d be impressed,
like, wow, they went the extra

539
00:29:42,400 –> 00:29:43,900
length.
This is you should be charging

540
00:29:43,900 –> 00:29:45,700
more for this.
This is the nigga.

541
00:29:45,700 –> 00:29:51,900
Addition, flip that on eBay, put
in parentheses original racist,

542
00:29:51,900 –> 00:29:53,800
note included.
Oh, that’s good.

543
00:29:53,800 –> 00:29:55,300
Cause I lost six hundred
thousand.

544
00:29:55,300 –> 00:29:58,300
Six hundred dollar coat.
Now every 1,000 jackets has the

545
00:29:58,300 –> 00:30:02,000
N word in it, that’s a good
marketing tool.

546
00:30:03,100 –> 00:30:07,900
Yeah, it’s like a golden ticket.
You get to go visit the troop

547
00:30:07,900 –> 00:30:10,200
headquarters but they just don’t
let you leave.

548
00:30:10,200 –> 00:30:15,300
When you get there is scary.
This also this troop rumor.

549
00:30:15,300 –> 00:30:20,600
It led to like dueling LL Cool.
J rumors one was that he went on

550
00:30:20,600 –> 00:30:22,900
Oprah and publicly denounced
true.

551
00:30:23,200 –> 00:30:27,500
As being owned by the KKK, the
other rumor was that he was in

552
00:30:27,500 –> 00:30:32,500
the KKK and was working on their
behalf to promote troop.

553
00:30:32,500 –> 00:30:35,100
So black people would buy it
between those two things.

554
00:30:35,100 –> 00:30:38,100
You just said the latter one is
the more believable.

555
00:30:38,100 –> 00:30:41,500
Could anyone knows Oprah?
Even at that time did not fuck

556
00:30:41,500 –> 00:30:42,700
with rappers.
So LL Cool.

557
00:30:42,700 –> 00:30:45,500
J was never on.
I doubt wasn’t over it anytime.

558
00:30:45,500 –> 00:30:47,800
Yeah, whenever when he was
specially wearing true.

559
00:30:48,000 –> 00:30:50,300
So no, he was not over at any
point.

560
00:30:50,300 –> 00:30:51,800
Yeah.
There’s another theory we didn’t

561
00:30:51,800 –> 00:30:54,500
include on this.
List because there wasn’t much

562
00:30:54,500 –> 00:30:57,800
information about it.
But there is a conspiracy theory

563
00:30:57,800 –> 00:31:02,700
that claims rapper Big, Daddy
Kane went on Oprah once and said

564
00:31:02,700 –> 00:31:05,200
he had AIDS.
Like there would be video of

565
00:31:05,200 –> 00:31:06,400
that.
It’s Oprah.

566
00:31:06,400 –> 00:31:09,800
It’s not like they’re burning
the tapes afterwards again.

567
00:31:09,900 –> 00:31:14,300
See first one, no rap was on
Oprah and 80s, it just wasn’t

568
00:31:14,300 –> 00:31:16,800
happening.
So this rumor about troop was

569
00:31:16,800 –> 00:31:19,600
not true.
They were owned by two Jewish,

570
00:31:19,600 –> 00:31:24,500
dudes, and a Korean guy, and at
one point, Sales manager, a

571
00:31:24,500 –> 00:31:28,100
black man named Wesley Mallory
sliced open the Linings of a

572
00:31:28,100 –> 00:31:31,100
bunch of troop jackets.
During a press conference to

573
00:31:31,100 –> 00:31:35,200
prove that the rumors were
false, but it did not matter.

574
00:31:35,300 –> 00:31:39,100
They were bankrupt within five
years of forming weight without

575
00:31:39,100 –> 00:31:41,300
the, without the twist that kind
of like a Twist.

576
00:31:41,300 –> 00:31:43,000
When you availed who really
owned it.

577
00:31:43,100 –> 00:31:46,500
Yeah, there’s still some weird
racial connotations, you know

578
00:31:46,500 –> 00:31:48,600
what I mean?
Like either way is like, whoa,

579
00:31:49,000 –> 00:31:52,800
what are we doing?
Yeah.

580
00:31:53,000 –> 00:31:58,100
Yeah that’s definitely not for
us body as a whole is a whole

581
00:31:58,100 –> 00:32:02,300
different brand.
Like look no KKK we just got to

582
00:32:02,300 –> 00:32:06,400
Jewish guys, a Korean guy but a
black guy is the sales manager

583
00:32:06,400 –> 00:32:13,100
and he’s pretty good.
Yeah, weird makeup of that

584
00:32:13,100 –> 00:32:15,000
board.
Now, she was available was I

585
00:32:15,000 –> 00:32:16,900
think the route?
I don’t know about that.

586
00:32:16,900 –> 00:32:18,100
I think it was called cannot
then.

587
00:32:18,100 –> 00:32:21,500
Yeah, not make sense.
I mean, Carl.

588
00:32:21,500 –> 00:32:24,000
Can I did take off pretty
shortly after this?

589
00:32:24,000 –> 00:32:25,700
Yeah, he did.
I looked it up recently.

590
00:32:25,700 –> 00:32:27,200
Still making clothes?
Yeah.

591
00:32:27,200 –> 00:32:28,500
Yeah, they just you find them
now.

592
00:32:28,500 –> 00:32:31,900
Like, unfortunately, t.j.
Maxx is he’s been downgraded?

593
00:32:31,900 –> 00:32:34,200
Yeah, not cool anymore.
I guess.

594
00:32:34,700 –> 00:32:36,800
Let’s bring that shit back.
Should be back by now.

595
00:32:36,800 –> 00:32:38,900
Right, so 90s.
If we win caulk or not a

596
00:32:38,900 –> 00:32:40,500
big-ass.
What is now and shit?

597
00:32:40,500 –> 00:32:41,500
Cross.
Colours.

598
00:32:41,500 –> 00:32:43,200
No.
More Polo caulk and I’m saying

599
00:32:43,200 –> 00:32:45,000
it.
Yeah, bring back cross Colours.

600
00:32:45,000 –> 00:32:48,200
I want to wear some gigantic
green jeans next time I’m out in

601
00:32:48,200 –> 00:32:49,700
public.
So it was some tombs.

602
00:32:49,800 –> 00:32:54,400
Yeah.
Let’s talk about another theory.

603
00:32:54,400 –> 00:32:58,000
I had never heard of this one.
This is not really a conspiracy

604
00:32:58,000 –> 00:33:00,500
theory.
It’s more of a rumor that has

605
00:33:00,500 –> 00:33:05,900
been spreading for I guess
around 20 years now which is

606
00:33:05,900 –> 00:33:13,400
that Styles P from the locks has
a verse out there where he

607
00:33:13,700 –> 00:33:18,200
disses Alia shortly after she
died and people really like

608
00:33:18,200 –> 00:33:21,600
illya so they’re not going to
take kindly to that news.

609
00:33:21,800 –> 00:33:24,500
This was news to me.
Yeah, I had never heard of this,

610
00:33:24,500 –> 00:33:27,200
but back around the time she
died.

611
00:33:27,300 –> 00:33:32,900
Styles P was involved in a beef
with Damon Dash from Roc-A-Fella

612
00:33:33,000 –> 00:33:34,200
Records.
Good be.

613
00:33:34,200 –> 00:33:38,500
And Alia was dating.
Damon Dash.

614
00:33:38,500 –> 00:33:44,400
So, at some point during this,
this conflict styles p, is

615
00:33:44,400 –> 00:33:48,800
alleged to have said this in a
verse Rock, the Boat Rock the

616
00:33:48,800 –> 00:33:51,100
Boat.
That’s one less bitch in a

617
00:33:51,100 –> 00:33:54,800
rocket.
We’re coat which yikes because

618
00:33:54,800 –> 00:33:58,600
she was filming the rock.
The boat video before she died.

619
00:33:58,600 –> 00:34:00,500
That’s why she was in the
Bahamas.

620
00:34:00,500 –> 00:34:01,700
I believe.
Yes.

621
00:34:01,800 –> 00:34:06,400
So that would be a very harsh
thing to say I would do so with

622
00:34:06,400 –> 00:34:09,300
say that back then, but it
wouldn’t be Styles P of all

623
00:34:09,300 –> 00:34:12,400
people about 1,000 were some
bullshit.

624
00:34:12,400 –> 00:34:14,400
Rookie rapper, the time would
have said that the just to get a

625
00:34:14,400 –> 00:34:17,900
rise out of people for attention
or Eminem, Eminem would have

626
00:34:17,900 –> 00:34:22,800
said some shit like that maybe
maybe not Lost a lot of people

627
00:34:22,800 –> 00:34:24,900
to risk pissing off his black
fans with that one.

628
00:34:25,000 –> 00:34:27,800
That’s risky.
Yeah that shock shit.

629
00:34:27,800 –> 00:34:30,900
Yeah that that would be quite
the risk.

630
00:34:30,900 –> 00:34:36,100
Yeah and the the whole the whole
problem with this rumor is that

631
00:34:36,100 –> 00:34:39,900
it is not true.
There is audio of what is

632
00:34:39,900 –> 00:34:44,500
alleged to be that verse and it
sounds very fake.

633
00:34:44,500 –> 00:34:49,100
One of the things you hear about
audio that’s been doctored,

634
00:34:49,400 –> 00:34:53,000
especially to make it seem like
someone Voice is on it who

635
00:34:53,000 –> 00:34:56,800
actually isn’t one of the things
you want to do is put a lot of

636
00:34:56,808 –> 00:34:59,600
background noise in that
recording.

637
00:34:59,600 –> 00:35:04,200
So it’s a little bit harder to
suss out if it’s real or fake.

638
00:35:04,200 –> 00:35:08,500
So with that said, I’m going to
play a little bit of this

639
00:35:08,500 –> 00:35:11,000
recording that was finally
posted.

640
00:35:11,100 –> 00:35:14,300
That is alleged to be this
Styles P verse.

641
00:35:14,300 –> 00:35:37,800
Here we go.
Here’s the thing.

642
00:35:37,800 –> 00:35:41,500
That doesn’t even sound like
either.

643
00:35:41,600 –> 00:35:44,300
Because if this is supposed to
be Jadakiss and Styles food,

644
00:35:47,400 –> 00:35:57,900
yeah, but it doesn’t sound like
So this videos it’s like a

645
00:35:57,908 –> 00:36:01,500
minute-long will link to it.
But you do eventually here, what

646
00:36:01,500 –> 00:36:03,500
is supposed who is supposed to
be Styles?

647
00:36:03,500 –> 00:36:08,900
P saying that line in that
recording but someone eventually

648
00:36:08,900 –> 00:36:12,300
came forward and said that
recording was fake and that they

649
00:36:12,300 –> 00:36:14,500
made it.
This is a quote me and my friend

650
00:36:14,500 –> 00:36:17,500
did the shit initially to piss
off some Rockefeller fans.

651
00:36:17,900 –> 00:36:21,000
I did the voice of both Jada and
styles in my friend mixed it The

652
00:36:21,000 –> 00:36:24,400
Sound authentic, we use three
different crowds not Loop.

653
00:36:24,900 –> 00:36:28,300
But chopped and layered over
each other, we had it hosted on

654
00:36:28,300 –> 00:36:30,400
a webpage.
So folks could listen, but not

655
00:36:30,400 –> 00:36:32,700
download.
It could have been Geo cities or

656
00:36:32,700 –> 00:36:35,000
something my homie handle that
part.

657
00:36:35,500 –> 00:36:38,100
So I don’t think this one is
real.

658
00:36:38,200 –> 00:36:41,300
I think Stiles, peas, innocent.
And I’m going to get that

659
00:36:41,300 –> 00:36:46,900
printed on t-shirts.
Yeah, I rocket in 2014 Styles P

660
00:36:46,900 –> 00:36:50,600
commented on this audio after
finally hearing it.

661
00:36:50,800 –> 00:36:53,400
Here’s his quote.
This was during a Reddit AMA.

662
00:36:53,900 –> 00:36:56,300
I just heard it now.
I have to say to that is, when

663
00:36:56,300 –> 00:36:59,200
did I ever have that flow?
When was I ever whack?

664
00:36:59,700 –> 00:37:02,000
I concur?
Now, that’s a good defense.

665
00:37:02,000 –> 00:37:06,500
The locks have been pretty great
for ever mmm, so that one’s not

666
00:37:06,500 –> 00:37:10,500
true and it was a little
unbelievable from the beginning.

667
00:37:10,500 –> 00:37:13,000
Now, let’s talk about one,
that’s a little more believable

668
00:37:13,300 –> 00:37:15,900
slice Berg Nicki Minaj is
actually Jay-Z.

669
00:37:16,000 –> 00:37:20,000
Sorry to just drop that on you.
But yeah, you gotta spoiler

670
00:37:20,000 –> 00:37:24,400
alert as a producer.
I will say this.

671
00:37:24,400 –> 00:37:28,500
It It is very easy to fuck with
the vocals to make it.

672
00:37:28,500 –> 00:37:29,800
Do what you want or need to
sound.

673
00:37:29,800 –> 00:37:32,900
Like it’s not hard especially to
say native technology is even

674
00:37:32,900 –> 00:37:35,800
easier now.
Yeah, they’ve like we’ve had

675
00:37:35,800 –> 00:37:38,200
technology to alter voices for a
long time.

676
00:37:38,200 –> 00:37:42,600
Like, even auto-tune is like 25
years old by now, like, mmm

677
00:37:42,600 –> 00:37:44,400
stuff like this has been out
there.

678
00:37:44,400 –> 00:37:47,900
And the theory here, this is one
of my favorite ones on the list,

679
00:37:47,900 –> 00:37:50,800
just because the video sounds so
crazy.

680
00:37:51,500 –> 00:37:54,500
The theory is that in the
studio, Jay-Z?

681
00:37:54,700 –> 00:37:59,500
Recording all of these Nicki
Minaj songs and her vocals are

682
00:37:59,500 –> 00:38:04,300
actually just Jay-Z sped up.
And then the person we know is

683
00:38:04,300 –> 00:38:08,000
Nicki Minaj is just the face of
all this and she’s like, I guess

684
00:38:08,000 –> 00:38:10,600
she’s lip-syncing in public.
What does her real voice sound

685
00:38:10,600 –> 00:38:13,400
like?
See this this is bad because

686
00:38:13,700 –> 00:38:16,600
it’s just another thing to
discredit, female rappers.

687
00:38:16,600 –> 00:38:22,400
Like it’s it’s unnecessary it
unnecessary and it wouldn’t make

688
00:38:22,400 –> 00:38:24,500
any sense like there’s better
ways.

689
00:38:24,700 –> 00:38:26,500
Of attempting.
This, this seems like something

690
00:38:26,500 –> 00:38:28,900
you would do.
Like, back in the old days.

691
00:38:29,000 –> 00:38:31,200
Maybe I’ll give you didn’t want
girls in a studio like it’s

692
00:38:31,200 –> 00:38:33,800
just, it’s just weird.
It doesn’t make any sense.

693
00:38:33,800 –> 00:38:37,100
No, yeah, it there was that
thing for a while, like the

694
00:38:37,100 –> 00:38:40,800
Milli Vanilli thing, we’re not
just them, but a bunch of

695
00:38:40,800 –> 00:38:43,800
different groups.
Yeah, would have Studio

696
00:38:43,800 –> 00:38:46,400
musicians and then, in the
video, it would just be people

697
00:38:46,400 –> 00:38:48,300
kind of pantomiming LL.
Cool.

698
00:38:48,300 –> 00:38:51,000
J did it.
He had the in the video for

699
00:38:51,000 –> 00:38:53,500
doing it.
Yeah, instead of just having the

700
00:38:53,500 –> 00:38:57,500
woman who he That song with in
the video, the Sean?

701
00:38:57,600 –> 00:39:01,500
Yeah, he had a bunch of models
lip-sync her lyrics, because she

702
00:39:01,500 –> 00:39:05,200
was quote, unquote, too heavy.
Yeah, that’s a bad.

703
00:39:05,200 –> 00:39:06,300
Look for LL.
Cool.

704
00:39:06,300 –> 00:39:08,600
J.
If that ever gets dug up again.

705
00:39:08,700 –> 00:39:10,800
All right.
So, yeah, I could have seen

706
00:39:10,800 –> 00:39:14,300
something like, maybe be in
something like that, but this,

707
00:39:14,300 –> 00:39:17,400
this is crazy.
Nicki Minaj did say, she’s very

708
00:39:17,400 –> 00:39:20,400
obsessed with Jay-Z.
And that’s why she named one of

709
00:39:20,408 –> 00:39:23,000
her albums.
The pinkprint it’s like her

710
00:39:23,000 –> 00:39:25,500
version of the blueprint.
Ain’t all right.

711
00:39:25,600 –> 00:39:29,000
But what seems the dumbest about
this Theory to me.

712
00:39:29,100 –> 00:39:34,400
If Jay-Z wanted a female artists
out there who was spitting his

713
00:39:34,400 –> 00:39:38,200
Rhymes, he could just write her
rhymes like you just find

714
00:39:38,200 –> 00:39:42,500
someone with a decent Voice, who
can deliver those Rhymes

715
00:39:42,500 –> 00:39:44,900
adequately.
And you just do that like that.

716
00:39:45,000 –> 00:39:48,300
I think we’ve kind of past the
days where that’s as frowned

717
00:39:48,300 –> 00:39:51,900
upon as it used to be.
Yeah, like cardi B doesn’t write

718
00:39:51,900 –> 00:39:53,600
a rhyme.
Some people don’t give a shit

719
00:39:53,800 –> 00:39:55,600
like Jay-Z could.
Damn bad.

720
00:39:55,600 –> 00:39:57,800
And why would he make double
work for himself?

721
00:39:58,100 –> 00:40:00,200
Probably.
Why would he do your homework

722
00:40:00,200 –> 00:40:02,500
too?
Like it’s just it’s stuff that’s

723
00:40:02,500 –> 00:40:04,300
actually work for him like what
the fuck.

724
00:40:04,300 –> 00:40:09,200
It doesn’t make any sense.
And it seems like this all stems

725
00:40:09,200 –> 00:40:14,700
from a 2014 MTV article where
the author ran a Nicki Minaj

726
00:40:14,700 –> 00:40:18,700
song through an app called video
star to slow down the vocals.

727
00:40:18,900 –> 00:40:23,300
And when they did it sounded
like Jay-Z and that part’s true,

728
00:40:23,300 –> 00:40:27,000
there’s a whole SoundCloud
dedicated to Nicki Minaj songs

729
00:40:27,000 –> 00:40:31,100
that are slowed down to sound
like Jay-Z, but there’s also a

730
00:40:31,107 –> 00:40:33,700
good chance, they’re not just
being slowed down.

731
00:40:33,900 –> 00:40:38,200
Like I think, in a lot of these
examples, the voice is being

732
00:40:38,200 –> 00:40:40,000
tweaked a little bit more than
that.

733
00:40:40,400 –> 00:40:46,000
So let’s listen, let’s listen to
this is, I believe Super Bass,

734
00:40:46,100 –> 00:41:00,900
but slow down.
Brace yourselves people

735
00:41:00,900 –> 00:41:19,100
listening.
It does sound like Chase.

736
00:41:20,200 –> 00:41:30,100
Yeah.
And I I find that very funny but

737
00:41:30,100 –> 00:41:36,000
you can also tell that voice is
still being manipulated in some

738
00:41:36,000 –> 00:41:38,200
way.
Like it doesn’t exactly sound

739
00:41:38,200 –> 00:41:45,200
like it’s in the picture.
The thumbnail on this video is

740
00:41:45,200 –> 00:41:48,400
horrifying.
This is just okay.

741
00:41:48,400 –> 00:41:50,600
Is that what?
He sounds like when he sings.

742
00:41:51,000 –> 00:41:56,300
I doubt it.
No you see it’s the it’s diem.

743
00:41:58,600 –> 00:42:02,800
The fact that she kind of reims
she’d ROMs and his same simile.

744
00:42:02,800 –> 00:42:04,200
Cadence.
Yeah.

745
00:42:04,300 –> 00:42:08,500
Some you slow it down to because
of the way her voice it made you

746
00:42:08,500 –> 00:42:11,300
know it’s done on purpose from
her part as far as style but

747
00:42:11,300 –> 00:42:14,800
some people do sound like people
who play with the the tempo of

748
00:42:14,808 –> 00:42:17,300
someone’s voice.
You can alter it to sound like

749
00:42:17,400 –> 00:42:20,800
yeah.
And even her having Similar flow

750
00:42:21,000 –> 00:42:24,800
or Cadence.
When you take into account, how

751
00:42:24,800 –> 00:42:27,900
obsessed with Jay-Z?
She said, she is that just?

752
00:42:27,900 –> 00:42:30,900
I mean, she was just influenced
by Jay-Z, right?

753
00:42:30,900 –> 00:42:33,400
Like, that’s all, that’s all
that would be like, musicians

754
00:42:33,400 –> 00:42:35,700
are influenced by other
musicians, all the time.

755
00:42:36,300 –> 00:42:38,800
Also it doesn’t work quite as
well.

756
00:42:38,800 –> 00:42:43,000
When you just speed up, Jay-Z
lyrics to make them sound like

757
00:42:43,000 –> 00:42:48,400
Nicki Minaj, right?
Let’s listen to a example of

758
00:42:48,400 –> 00:42:52,400
that, this Is Drunk in Love by.
Beyonce sped up.

759
00:42:53,700 –> 00:42:56,600
Shit, but do say so myself, if I
do say, so myself.

760
00:42:56,600 –> 00:43:10,500
If I do say so myself.
Like I don’t know if anyone

761
00:43:10,500 –> 00:43:12,700
would hear that and go.
Oh, that’s Nicki Minaj.

762
00:43:15,700 –> 00:43:20,700
Like, there’s similarities but
not but not enough.

763
00:43:26,800 –> 00:43:29,000
I fucking love Drunk in Love.
That’s a good song.

764
00:43:30,100 –> 00:43:32,000
I don’t know.
I don’t know about this one.

765
00:43:32,100 –> 00:43:37,600
No, I’m pretty sure Nicki Minaj
is not actually Jay Z.

766
00:43:38,100 –> 00:43:40,300
This is example.
Just playing with audio.

767
00:43:40,300 –> 00:43:44,500
Yeah, that is, that is the first
half of this episode.

768
00:43:44,500 –> 00:43:46,500
I made the right choice.
Splitting us up with this would

769
00:43:46,500 –> 00:43:49,900
have been 2 hours long on the
next episode.

770
00:43:49,900 –> 00:43:51,900
Part 2.
We’re going to run through the

771
00:43:51,900 –> 00:43:56,000
the final five kicking off with
possibly my favorite one on the

772
00:43:56,000 –> 00:43:57,800
whole.
Which is that Shakira and

773
00:43:57,800 –> 00:44:01,500
Pitbull.
Predicted, a horrible tragedy,

774
00:44:01,500 –> 00:44:04,900
that happened in the 2010s.
Totally true.

775
00:44:05,000 –> 00:44:08,200
Yeah, probably that one.
I do. 100% belief.

776
00:44:08,600 –> 00:44:12,200
So be on the lookout for that
until then, do we have anything

777
00:44:12,200 –> 00:44:13,900
to plug before we get out of
here?

778
00:44:13,900 –> 00:44:15,600
Slice Berg.
How about you?

779
00:44:16,300 –> 00:44:20,700
Yeah, I have a new album out on
my bank Camp, it’s called, she

780
00:44:20,700 –> 00:44:24,700
her, check it out.
My bank Camp, sliced Berg slim.

781
00:44:24,700 –> 00:44:28,200
That Bandcamp.com I don’t really
have anything to plug.

782
00:44:28,200 –> 00:44:31,700
Patreon.com on pops gun pops,
Network that super cast dot

783
00:44:31,700 –> 00:44:33,800
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You can subscribe there to get

784
00:44:33,800 –> 00:44:37,000
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Also, you can subscribe right in

785
00:44:37,000 –> 00:44:40,700
Spotify app, if that’s where you
listen to podcast and you can

786
00:44:40,700 –> 00:44:44,800
get your bone con there.
Don’t have to do any extra work.

787
00:44:44,800 –> 00:44:48,100
Lazy bones.
All right, that’s it.

788
00:44:48,100 –> 00:44:50,800
Let’s get the fuck out here.
Slice Berg said goodbye.

789
00:44:51,300 –> 00:44:53,200
Goodbye people goodbye
everybody.

790
00:44:53,200 –> 00:44:53,700
We love you.