Conspiracy! The Show 188: The Russia Investigation Investigation

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Which one’s did I choose this
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Hey, everybody.
Welcome to conspiracy the show.

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I am Adam, Todd Brown.
Who are you?

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I’m Olivia haydar.
We are your guests and we

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apologize in advance for this
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We are your guests, you know, I
said that last week.

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That’s who I had to edit it out.
What is my problem?

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Well for what they get can’t
edit it out.

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This is that’s It’s gold.
We are, are we already at now?

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Because last week I did cut it.
When I said, we are your guests.

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We are your hosts.
We are.

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And your, you know, what?
If you’re listening to this,

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you’re welcoming us into your
home.

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This is what I’m saying into
your vehicle right into your

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earpod Pros.
So we are your guests right

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where your guests.
Don’t worry.

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I’ll take off my shoes before I
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Hey Olivia, how’s it going?
Have you been since we recorded

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last?
I’ve been good.

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I’m a good life is kind of like
a raging River.

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It’s kind of like a crossfire
hurricane.

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You might say you could say
that.

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Sometimes I feel like I was born
in a crossfire.

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Yeah.
I mean, I’ve only there was a

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song about something like that.
But you know, I do my best.

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Keeping my head above water,
barely very excited.

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I’ve got a big double feature
today at the movies.

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Very excited.
So, what’s what’s happening?

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Gonna be a long one.
There’s one Art, Theater within

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30 miles of me double feature,
you know, like, I gotta give

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them as many as four times
again.

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So I’m going to see drive my car
or yusuke hamaguchi.

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She’s new film.
That looks fantastic.

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Is supposed to be great, but it
is three hours, long, literally,

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like exactly.
Then.

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I’m going to go see the worst
person in the world, which I

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have heard nothing, but amazing
things about and is like, over

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two hours.
Ang.

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So it’s going to be a hefty day
at the Art Theater.

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For me.
It’s going to be a day.

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Yeah, but yeah, I’m looking
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Well, that sounds like fun.
But first, we have some fun of

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our own to get to.
Oh, yeah.

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So much fun.
We had that seamless segue a

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while back where we were talking
about Crossfire hurricane.

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That’s because that is the FBI’s
code name for the Russia

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investigation into whether the
Trump campaign colluded.

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With Russia.
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Influence the 2016 election and
you know what?

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I am just so glad to be talking
about the 2016 election.

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Again, I just have not gotten
enough of talking about that

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election.
I just don’t think it’s

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discussed enough.
I’m still writing 2020 on all my

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fraud claims, you know, and I
always forget that I can put

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2016 on it, too, because, right,
like, it’s all rigged, you know,

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exactly.
Really?

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We’re not exactly talking about
the Russian investigation.

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We’re going to talk about that a
little bit, but we’re here to

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talk about today is the Russia
investigation investigation,

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which I think people know a
little less about everyone knows

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the libs in their friends in the
Deep state, right?

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Launched a probe into Trump and
his staff looking for evidence

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that they colluded with Russia.
What got a whole lot less

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attention.
Is that right before the 20/20,

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election Attorney, General
William bar launched an

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investigation into the Democrats
investigation and love that.

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That’s what we’re talking about
today.

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What’s your stance on the
Russian investigation?

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Looking back on it.
I mean, looking back on it.

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I don’t know man.
Like it’s fucking weird.

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I got so tired of hearing about
it.

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But also I’m like, well, you
know if it Was happening then,

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that’s bad.
But also every other aspect of

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our democracy is failing.
And so I don’t see how this is

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especially egregious honestly,
and I feel pretty good about

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this.
It’s been six years.

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I don’t really have very many
strong feelings about the Russia

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investigation anymore.
Yeah, looking back.

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It really has some doomsday cult
qualities to it.

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Yeah.
We’re there were all these.

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That’s where it’s like, uh-oh,
some Russian investigation stuff

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is dropping today and it’s like,
finally Trump is going to prison

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and it’s like now it just turns
out Michael Cohen.

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Lied about something going to go
to jail for a while and it’s

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like, well, I don’t really care
about that that much right?

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Like, yeah.
I consider it among the tide of

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liberal and Centrist and some
leftist panic and Desperation

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about Out the Trump presidency
and just the feeling of grasping

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at anything that we could
possibly find that could

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possibly damage.
This man’s presidential

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Administration, which I think is
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I mean, he was a bad president.
Yeah, he’s a bad president and

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I’m certainly not here to go to
bat for team Trump.

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Like we’re going to get into the
Republicans version of this

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investigation.
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Mostly and here’s the thing,
both of them seem in retrospect

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and currently with this
Republican one that’s running

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like it’s just not that
interesting.

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That would be one thing if at
any point, like if the molar

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report came out and was like
Trump did this and we can prove

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it and he committed a crime then
I’d be like, I’m listening.

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Yeah, but the conclusion of the
Mueller report was like Yeah, we

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think Trump did some stuff and
we think his campaign new, but

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we can’t prove it and it’s like
well, I can’t either that was

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your job like well that whole
the whole molar thing like talk

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about stuff looking back is just
so embarrassing and just like in

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it just embarrassing.
That’s the only thing I think of

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it like the way that Democrats
especially like the mainstream

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Democrats treated.
Robert Mueller.

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A man who almost single-handedly
lost Hillary Clinton.

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The 2016 election.
Like wait, was it?

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Was it Hammer?
Co Me O KO me, call me.

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Someone that maybe bounce me.
Do me regardless Muller.

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He’s Comey also, but molar is
there.

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These are people who are bad,
people.

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They work for the FBI.
They’re evil men and they’re

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being hailed as champions of
fucking day.

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Democracy by people who should
fucking know better.

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And that’s just that’s just a
running theme of liberal

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discourse throughout the Trump
Administration.

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It’s constantly in a me of my
enemy or whatever but not

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thinking about.
Well, maybe this enemy doesn’t

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have like your best interest and
isn’t really looking for the

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same thing.
Molar was looking to like, clear

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himself and clear Comey like he
was looking to like Sure, that,

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you know, everything kind of
stayed normal.

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He wasn’t looking to overturn
the apple cart and that’s what

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needed to happen.
Like we needed something drastic

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in order to make any sort of
dent in Trump’s armor.

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And that is just something that
Democrats are still incapable of

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doing even after he lost the
election.

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Yeah, and then, in this case,
it’s kind of the same thing.

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Like, talk to me when this turns
into.

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To Hillary Clinton being
indicted, right?

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Or even just this probe saying
that the spying in question was

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actually criminal spying because
even if it hasn’t been said yet,

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but what, well, we’ll get into
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We should give people some
background on the Russian

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investigation because it does
matter to this story, right?

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July 2016.
The FBI called this program

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operation Crossfire hurricane,
which they explained by saying

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it is Phrase from the opening
line of a rolling stone song.

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And it’s like, yes, we all know
yet.

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We is.
The operation was called

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Crossfire hurricane.
What I found interesting, was

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that the predecessor
investigation was codenamed,

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Crossfire typhoon, and I just
don’t like, we’re stock.

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Did that come from, right?
That’s why was that the name?

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I told us, understand.
And then it got upgraded to

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hurricane.
Kane.

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That person also thought it was
a stone’s reference.

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Someone was like no.
No, it’s hurricane you.

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I was bored in a crossfire
typhoon.

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Typhoon.
What version are you listening

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to be sides?
And this was an investigation

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meant to determine whether
individuals associated with

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Trump’s presidential campaign,
we’re coordinating wittingly or

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unwittingly with the Russian
government’s efforts to

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interfere in the 2016 US
presidential election.

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And it seems like they were to
some extent.

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Yeah, I mean that feels like
just an objective fact of

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reality, it all started because
a trump staffer named George

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Papadopoulos, took a trip to
Rome in March 2016 to meet with

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officials at a college called.
Link campus University.

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He meets a Maltese Professor.
There named Joseph Smith sued,

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who upon learning the
Papadopoulos works for Trump.

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Informs him that the Russian
government has as thousands of

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emails that could be politically
damaging to Hillary Clinton and

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her campaign, right?
And a couple months later,

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Papadopoulos has drinks with
Alexander Downer the Australian

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High Commissioner to Britain.
I don’t think I needed to tell

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anyone that, of course,
everybody knows all of our.

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Yeah, all of Australians High
Commissioners.

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We know them by name when it’s
taught in school.

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Yeah, in Australian history
class.

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Exactly.
He lives up to his last name

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Downer and immediately reports.
This drunken confession to the

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appropriate authorities, except
just joking.

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It was not immediately.
They sat on this information

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until July after Wikileaks,
released a bunch of DNC emails

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about cheese pizza and walnut
sauce.

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I’m sorry.
They released a bunch of DNC

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emails about a secret pedophile
ring under a pizza shop.

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That’s what You mean, right.
Clearly one of us has dug into

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the details of that stone
cheese.

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Pizza means child porn and right
Walnut sauce.

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I forgot what that is supposed
to be a, dude.

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How the hell am I ever supposed
to fucking leave it for the code

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words.
I just know the basics.

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Yeah, it’s I don’t remember
what.

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Well, I don’t think I want.
I’m not going to look up.

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I don’t want to.
I don’t know like jizz.

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I don’t know.
Yeah, go ahead.

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Run how to communicate with
pedophiles through your Google.

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Everybody and pizza gate code
words.

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That is when Australia finally
told the us about what

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Papadopoulos said specifically.
They told the CIA CIA director,

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John Brennan, who I’m sure is a
great guy who fucking heels.

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Absolutely convened, a meeting
of CIA NSA, and FBI officials.

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And this is when the FBI
officially started their

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investigation because the CIA
doesn’t have jurisdiction.

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Addiction to spy on American
citizens technically, it’s wink

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wink.
And also the FBI man.

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When are you going to learn that
when the CIA comes to you and

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goes boy, do we have some
information for you?

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That we would like you to share
with the public.

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You got to be like, is this one
of those tricks?

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Yeah.
Is this one of those, this all

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fake?
Is this?

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Lucy?
Wake?

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Yeah, it’s Lucy with the
football, man.

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And I like, nah, man P tape.
Check it out.

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Like Eventually that was
discredited.

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It’s so funny because all of
these alphabet organizations are

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so, so evil, just breathtakingly
evil.

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And yet the FBI always comes
off.

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Like they’re like, idiot,
younger brother who doesn’t have

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it just is like, well Olga, I’ll
I just want to hang with you

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guys.
Like I could be an

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information-gathering service to
like what What leads do you

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have?
Okay, I’ll go along with that.

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I went to the FBI exhibit at the
Reagan Library.

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Oh, yes.
Go.

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I think I mentioned this on the
Pod at one point.

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But in that exhibit, they have a
bunch of office doors that are

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set up to look like what the
original FBI offices would have

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looked like like old-time your
doors like you can you can

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picture it.
Like you can picture.

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It’s got the glass with the
wires running purse of course

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and it had like all these
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homicide and like all of this
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cybercrimes.
It’s like, oh, it’s yield

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cybercrimes door.
That’s what the cybercrime store

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looked like in the 1930s hunt.
None for hackers on DARPA net or

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whatever.
So the this thing about the FBI

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starting this investigation
because of the Papadopoulos

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information is a big point of
contention, right?

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That’s the FBI squares.
That’s why they did it.

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Trump side claims.
They did it because of the steel

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dossier, right?
Speaking of of being handed

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questionable information and
running with it.

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BuzzFeed.
The steel dossier has mostly

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been discredited by this point,
especially the really cool part,

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which was Russia had a tape of
trump like writing pissed on or

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have intercourse and it turned
out that P probably isn’t true.

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Well, we don’t know.
Tom Arnold is still hunting for

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it.
So it’s true.

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By the way.
I still haven’t forgiven you for

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making me watch that show.
This is the worst thing we’ve

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watch.
I’m firing off emails every day

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to Tom Arnold.
Trying to get a new season.

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Meanwhile, yeah.
Meanwhile, he’s just doesn’t

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give a shit about the world
because the guy he hated his out

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of office.
Yeah.

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No, everything’s fine, man.
Joe, Biden’s back in office.

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Joe Biden.
He’s a good guy.

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We’re definitely not about to go
to war with Russia.

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No day.
And we’re not going to take the

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Neo-Nazi side in that war at
all.

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As we, as we record this
podcast.

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We’re not.
Not going to war.

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I’m sure it’s fine.
Yeah.

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Yeah, it’s got to happen today
because it’s Tuesday.

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Well, you 2222.
There you go.

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Well, I mean, look is not a
better day for World War 3 to

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start except 33333.
That’s the thing.

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Yeah, we gotta wait 11 years.
That’s when the water wars

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begin, but, no.
Rush had just invaded Ukraine.

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You know that right?
Oh, yes.

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Yes.
I just wanted to make sure that

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we were on the same page about
your I know its earlier.

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You that was what I woke up to
you.

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Oh great.
Yeah, good times.

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So speaking of Russia.
Yeah.

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Sorry it later comes to light
that the FBI didn’t become aware

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of the steel dossier until
September, which weighs a few

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months after the investigation
was launched.

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There was some Fallout from the
steel dossier Fiasco.

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We’ll get to it later.
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The FBI was eventually replaced
in their investigation by the

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Mauler probe, right?
Which picked up It up the

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investigation after Trump fired
James Comey, right?

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I believe.
Yes.

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That’s when Mueller picked it up
and brought it to its

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hair-raising conclusion, which
was yeah, some people did some

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stuff but we can’t prove it.
So enjoy your democracy

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fuckface.
Yeah.

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Basically that’s the theme of
the last decade.

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Yeah, and in December, 2019
review of the Russian

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investigation done by Justice.
Inspector General.

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Michael Horowitz, did not find
political bias in the FBI’s

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decision to launch the
investigation, but it did find

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that the FBI made 17 errors or
omissions in a foreign

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intelligence surveillance Court.
Warrant application for

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surveillance on Trump Aid.
Carter page.

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I cannot believe that the
Federal Bureau of Investigation

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of America.
Kaka.

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Fudged warrants.
I know this is a shocking claim

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to make about the F God like
what masses are they?

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Are they spying on black
leftists?

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No, probably not.
No not since he is 60s or 70s or

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80s or 90s are like to thousands
of 2010’s.

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Yeah, exactly.
Didn’t disappear.

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Bunch of Ferguson activists
know, the FBI has always been on

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the side of civil rights.
We know that, that they’ve

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always, that was the they’ve
always been involved.

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The Civil Rights Movement.
Yeah, I texted you a picture of

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that to the FBI exhibit.
We have always been interested

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in civil rights.
Yeah.

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Yeah, sure have.
So, yeah, if the people at home

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can believe it.
I know you’re probably all

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clutching your pearls, but the
FBI, cut some Corners in

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securing this warrant to spy on
Carter page.

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Which knocked me over with a
feather.

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So in January 2020, the
Department of Justice declared

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two of those warrants invalid.
And And a federal judge said the

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surveillance on page lacked a
legal basis.

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Mmm.
So on account of all those

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concerns William bars, bitch-ass
appoints, Connecticut, us

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Attorney John Durham, as a
special counsel to investigate

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the investigators behind the
Russia investigation.

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I’m pretty sure that’s a quote
from William bars statement

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about this.
First of all, William bar is

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absolutely a bitch ass.
And like, that is just, that’s

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the kind of trump logic that you
just don’t get like Biden sucks

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in his own particular way.
He’s gonna get us all killed by

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going to work, but you don’t
have him investigating an

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investigation which is just the
kind of shit that that’s just

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that Trump insecurity.
All over the fucking place.

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It’s so good.
This feels Petty.

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Absolutely.
And like once you dig into the

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details, so does the first
Russian?

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Occasionally a little bit but
not to this degree.

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No.
So William bar appoints John

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Durham to head up.
This investigation, that

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initially happened secretly in
October 20, 20 grand, but he was

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given special counsel status in
December 2020.

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Meaning, he couldn’t be easily
fired when the Biden

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ministration took over, and
that’s when we officially found

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out about this new investigation
for the first few months, there

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weren’t a ton of notable
developments.

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Durham.
Did it.

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One point Strike Up.
Plea deal with Kevin Kline Smith

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and FBI lawyer who admitted to
doctoring an email from the CIA.

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When the bureau was applying for
the warrant to conduct

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surveillance on Carter page and
they did do this.

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And again, it sounds like
classic FBI Shenanigans, right?

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What they did is when they
applied for this warrant.

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They altered this email from the
CIA because the email revealed

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that Carter page had already
discussed a bunch of his Russia

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dealings.
The CIA which whoops going to be

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honest, that makes them seem a
whole lot less suspicious,

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right?
If you’re going to the CIA and

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being like, Hey, listen to what
these fucking russkies are

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trying to do, right?
Like that that I think

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legitimately would give you less
of a legal basis.

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Absolutely.
To spy on Carter page.

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The FBI did a bad thing here.
No way.

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They did a bad bad thing, but
also that information came about

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As a result of that, Michael
Horowitz investigation, right in

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2019.
Durham was just there to handle

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the plea deal by the time, it
all happens.

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So even that isn’t coming from
this, John Durham investigation,

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right?
The first actual indictment, to

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come from the Durham
investigation involved, a

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cybersecurity lawyer named
Michael Sussman.

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That Char judge, drum roll,
please one count of lying to the

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FBI, huh?
And you know, you should have

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seen this coming because that
guy like it’s right in the name.

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He’s a sus man.
He’s very sus, you sure is you

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can’t spell Sussman without sus
man.

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Yeah.
There you go.

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Yeah.
This reminds me of what would

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happen during the initial Rush
investigation.

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There would be this big drop.
There’d be like, Mueller would

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have a countdown clock on his
website and it’s the new Russian

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investigation drop would be
coming.

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That.
Normally meant the government

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was up to something else,
completely insane that we should

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have been paying more attention
to.

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Like, I remember one time when a
bunch of mostly useless

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indictments came down in the
Russian investigation.

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The government was also in front
of Congress, lobbying to expand

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the act that allows us to just
kind of conduct war in the

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Middle East freely, without any
oversight.

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We wanted to expand that to
Africa.

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And we were in front of
Congress, lobbying for that.

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At the same time.
These Russia investigation

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indictments came.
It’s cool.

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Another thing sounds a little
more important, honestly.

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Yes, but it didn’t happen.
And now we’ll never go to war in

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Africa.
Has absolutely not.

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No.
Well.

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I mean, we’ll be too busy.
Let’s start.

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Unless again, it’s like World
War 2 and there’s just a random

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African front that like no one
really knows why were there.

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So yeah, these indictments would
come down in the Russian

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investigation and it was like,
well, that’s cool.

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But also when are we going to
get the trunk?

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Like we’re not just going to hit
someone important and like

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Michael Flynn.
That was a good one.

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But that one I so blatant.
Like he was doing Q and on

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solutes on Instagram and shit.
It’s like, obviously this guy’s

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a fun to go out on a limb and
say that guy is kind of stupid.

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Yeah, sounds like a dumbass but
also like it was also taking up

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all of the air that could have
been spent on the other shit

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that Trump is doing.
Yes.

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During his presidency that you
could impeach him for.

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Theoretically, right?
Like, that’s The problem is,

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it’s taking all the focus is now
been on this Russia thing that

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is nebulous at best instead of
actual concrete actions that

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were being taken, that we know
were being taken.

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Yeah, Republicans were right.
When they said it was a

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distraction.
They just weren’t right in the

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way they call, right?
Exactly.

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Like you’re kind of lucky that
people were just focusing on

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Russia, right?
Like, you know, is the same.

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This is again, I’ve said this
before.

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This podcast Republicans are so
fucking stupid.

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Just inherently.
I’m sorry.

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No, I’m not.
Sorry to any Republican

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listeners.
You’re a fucking idiot.

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But like, it’s just this, it’s
this worldview where like, if

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they wanted to fucking impeach
bitin, then they could like

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there’s a bunch of shit that
he’s done that you could

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probably impeach him for but
it’s not that stuff that they’re

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going after.
It’s this like nebulous Hunter,

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Biden laptop thing that Amazing.
After like it’s just it’s this

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chronic thing.
We’re and we’re just never going

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to have, this is my feeling
we’re never going to have a

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Republican president impeached
again, at least to the point of

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getting removed from office.
That is just never going to

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happen to a Republican president
ever again because Republicans

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will never ever ever been on
that.

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Whereas if a Democratic
president gets impeached, like

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if I didn’t Peach, there would
be Democrats, who would go along

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with it, because it would
probably be the right thing to

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do and that would remove him
from office, but you’ll just

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that’ll never happen in the
flip.

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Yeah, the thing about Biden and
Ukraine, and I mean, we’re sort

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of getting off track but not
really, we’re talking about

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Russia and well, there’s not
like anything in this.

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Fuck.
Yeah, the thing about Biden and

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00:25:27,100 –> 00:25:32,600
Ukraine, we are to some extent
to a large extent, arming

445
00:25:32,600 –> 00:25:36,200
neo-nazis.
In Ukraine to fight against

446
00:25:36,200 –> 00:25:39,400
Russia.
And what I don’t think people

447
00:25:39,400 –> 00:25:41,500
understand this, I mean, this is
just a thing.

448
00:25:41,500 –> 00:25:43,600
I read.
I don’t know if it’s 100%

449
00:25:43,600 –> 00:25:48,000
accurate but essentially Putin
is banking on Joe Biden being on

450
00:25:48,000 –> 00:25:51,600
the wrong side of History here.
Yeah, like he’s banking on at

451
00:25:51,600 –> 00:25:54,300
some point people going.
Wait, you’re fighting with the

452
00:25:54,300 –> 00:25:58,100
Nazis hitting that makes what’s
happening in Ukraine awfully

453
00:25:58,100 –> 00:26:01,700
uncomfortable because I’m not
sure we’re the good guys.

454
00:26:02,100 –> 00:26:07,400
We not only I think the problem
is again, whatever.

455
00:26:07,400 –> 00:26:11,300
Fuck this other shit, but like,
I’m sorry, I woke up.

456
00:26:11,300 –> 00:26:15,100
And the first thing that I read
was that if Russia invaded

457
00:26:15,100 –> 00:26:17,300
eastern Ukraine.
And so it’s kind of been the

458
00:26:17,300 –> 00:26:20,000
only thing that’s on my mind
because if you remember, like

459
00:26:20,000 –> 00:26:25,200
during that similar event, that
happened back in like 2013,

460
00:26:25,200 –> 00:26:28,800
2014, like that was fully live
stream.

461
00:26:28,800 –> 00:26:33,100
You could just watch that happen
at like as it happened.

462
00:26:33,100 –> 00:26:36,300
And so So I was like, I was
watching that, like, I remember

463
00:26:36,300 –> 00:26:39,300
that shit.
And like, there are no good guys

464
00:26:39,300 –> 00:26:42,900
in this situation, you know,
like what Russia is doing is

465
00:26:43,200 –> 00:26:47,200
awful and and not, right?
And they’re invading, the

466
00:26:47,200 –> 00:26:51,600
sovereignty of another nation.
And there are people who are

467
00:26:51,600 –> 00:26:55,300
resisting that who are not
neo-nazis.

468
00:26:55,300 –> 00:26:59,000
I wanted to be out there that
not everybody who is resisting,

469
00:26:59,000 –> 00:27:01,800
Russian invasion, and Ukraine is
a Neo-Nazi.

470
00:27:01,800 –> 00:27:04,400
But like, that is also a huge
Faction.

471
00:27:04,400 –> 00:27:07,300
And that just happens to be the
kind of faction that the u.s.

472
00:27:07,300 –> 00:27:12,300
Loves to align with because they
are cohesive in a way that

473
00:27:12,300 –> 00:27:14,700
leftist groups are never allowed
to be.

474
00:27:15,000 –> 00:27:20,400
Well, the government in general
in Ukraine is kind of fash,

475
00:27:20,400 –> 00:27:21,800
right?
Exactly.

476
00:27:21,800 –> 00:27:25,900
Like, it’s not just that we’re,
arming these groups.

477
00:27:25,900 –> 00:27:30,000
It’s that the government in
general does a lot of the things

478
00:27:30,000 –> 00:27:33,600
that we hate that fascists to
like, I mean, absolutely.

479
00:27:33,800 –> 00:27:38,100
Lily taking a page from the
American Playbook.

480
00:27:38,200 –> 00:27:38,900
Oh, wow.
What?

481
00:27:38,900 –> 00:27:44,100
And as a lot of places are and I
get that, you know, Putin’s a

482
00:27:44,500 –> 00:27:48,500
crazy maniac and a monster, but
if you want to see what’s

483
00:27:48,500 –> 00:27:52,500
happening in Ukraine from his
point of view, imagine if at

484
00:27:52,500 –> 00:27:58,000
some point Russia, fomented
coups in Canada and Mexico and

485
00:27:58,000 –> 00:28:01,900
turn those into Communist
governments and then started

486
00:28:01,900 –> 00:28:07,000
pressuring them to enter into a
Terry alliance with Russia when

487
00:28:07,000 –> 00:28:11,600
the United States stand for
being surrounded by two Russian

488
00:28:11,600 –> 00:28:14,400
satellite countries, or would we
fight back?

489
00:28:14,600 –> 00:28:18,300
We have a proven history of
fighting Bali, a situation like

490
00:28:18,300 –> 00:28:21,500
that and that’s what’s happening
in Russia after the Soviet Union

491
00:28:21,500 –> 00:28:23,800
fell, right.
We went in and started adding

492
00:28:23,800 –> 00:28:26,600
all these Soviet countries of
NATO just like we said we

493
00:28:26,600 –> 00:28:31,700
wouldn’t and has always been
like, please just not Ukraine.

494
00:28:31,900 –> 00:28:35,800
Well, yeah.
And like I feel like Russia is

495
00:28:35,800 –> 00:28:38,300
just, you know, it’s just been
the country.

496
00:28:38,300 –> 00:28:41,700
It’s always been just because
the Cold War ended, does it mean

497
00:28:41,700 –> 00:28:45,800
that Russia is not a massive
superpower that could threaten

498
00:28:46,000 –> 00:28:48,400
us.
Like, of course, it’s always

499
00:28:48,400 –> 00:28:51,700
been that but we have just
stopped thinking that way

500
00:28:51,700 –> 00:28:56,900
because we quote unquote won the
Cold War and so we just think,

501
00:28:56,900 –> 00:28:58,500
oh, they’re just fucking with
their ownership.

502
00:28:58,500 –> 00:29:01,800
We can do whatever we want.
We can interfere with these

503
00:29:01,800 –> 00:29:03,600
nations that Arnie on their
border.

504
00:29:03,800 –> 00:29:07,100
And yeah, it’s just going to
come back and bite us.

505
00:29:07,100 –> 00:29:11,300
Just like everything of the late
20th century is coming back to

506
00:29:11,300 –> 00:29:13,800
bite us.
Yeah, I don’t know, man.

507
00:29:13,800 –> 00:29:18,800
I like I said, this whole thing
has just got me completely keyed

508
00:29:18,800 –> 00:29:21,200
up.
I’m very anxious about

509
00:29:21,200 –> 00:29:23,100
everything that’s happening in
the world, for sure.

510
00:29:23,100 –> 00:29:25,600
This is like, this is very
easily.

511
00:29:25,800 –> 00:29:27,600
Could be the start of World War
Three.

512
00:29:27,600 –> 00:29:30,300
Absolutely.
I mean and and when we say,

513
00:29:30,300 –> 00:29:33,100
there’s like no real good guys
here.

514
00:29:33,100 –> 00:29:36,100
That’s Not us.
Advocating for Putin Putin’s.

515
00:29:36,100 –> 00:29:39,400
No, no soul to guys.
I’m gay.

516
00:29:39,400 –> 00:29:43,100
Fuck off.
I don’t ever say that.

517
00:29:43,100 –> 00:29:46,100
I’m Shilling for Putin.
I will punch you in the nose,

518
00:29:46,300 –> 00:29:51,200
but that’s that doesn’t mean
that in a situation like this.

519
00:29:51,200 –> 00:29:54,200
You’re basically hearing the
American government’s version of

520
00:29:54,200 –> 00:29:56,900
events versus the Russian
government’s version of events.

521
00:29:56,900 –> 00:30:00,200
And you gotta understand they’re
both going to embellish a little

522
00:30:00,200 –> 00:30:01,300
bit.
Like, absolutely.

523
00:30:01,300 –> 00:30:04,500
When you hear stuff about Kim
Jong-un, Hmm.

524
00:30:04,500 –> 00:30:07,900
No, he’s probably not shooting
people in the chest with tank

525
00:30:07,900 –> 00:30:10,500
rounds that yes, is, people are
starving.

526
00:30:10,800 –> 00:30:16,000
Yeah, like, but also, it’s not
like, I feel little that talk

527
00:30:16,000 –> 00:30:19,000
about tangent tangent.
But like, the whole Western

528
00:30:19,000 –> 00:30:23,700
image of North Korea’s so
warped, and so unrealistic.

529
00:30:23,800 –> 00:30:26,800
There’s a with very interesting
documentary about that called

530
00:30:26,800 –> 00:30:29,600
the propaganda game.
Oh, yeah, I’ve heard of that.

531
00:30:29,700 –> 00:30:33,200
I cannot recommend enough.
We should actually cover it on

532
00:30:33,400 –> 00:30:34,400
this.
I’ll be down.

533
00:30:34,600 –> 00:30:36,800
I’ve completely forgot about
because so many.

534
00:30:36,800 –> 00:30:41,400
Yeah, that’s a huge bug bear for
me is Western treatment of North

535
00:30:41,400 –> 00:30:46,900
Korea, like its wild but also
like Russia is they are

536
00:30:46,900 –> 00:30:51,700
comparable to America in many
ways and we don’t see them that

537
00:30:51,700 –> 00:30:54,200
way.
Like, we just think that we are

538
00:30:54,200 –> 00:30:58,700
super special and unique and no
one else operates in the world

539
00:30:58,700 –> 00:31:03,200
like we do and where, you know,
whatever we do is right and

540
00:31:03,200 –> 00:31:06,400
we’re the A superpower, and that
is not accurate.

541
00:31:06,400 –> 00:31:10,500
It’s never been accurate and
that kind of attitude, invite

542
00:31:10,500 –> 00:31:17,100
someone like Putin to manipulate
us into doing exactly what he

543
00:31:17,100 –> 00:31:21,200
wants, which is pick a fight
with him, and then he whips her

544
00:31:21,200 –> 00:31:23,300
ass because we can’t invade
Russia.

545
00:31:23,300 –> 00:31:24,800
That just is not going to
happen.

546
00:31:24,900 –> 00:31:27,000
No.
No, that’s never going to

547
00:31:27,000 –> 00:31:29,000
happen.
Everyone who’s done it as

548
00:31:29,000 –> 00:31:33,600
fucking died.
Yeah, be a risky proposition and

549
00:31:33,700 –> 00:31:37,200
The idea that Russia could be
tricking us into something.

550
00:31:37,400 –> 00:31:40,900
I feel like brings us back to
this re-investigation thing for

551
00:31:40,900 –> 00:31:43,400
sure.
Because it’s really, very

552
00:31:43,400 –> 00:31:46,100
possible that that’s what
happened here.

553
00:31:46,200 –> 00:31:48,100
Right?
Like we were talking about,

554
00:31:48,100 –> 00:31:52,300
Michael Sussman just to here’s
what I’m talking about in terms

555
00:31:52,300 –> 00:31:55,700
of like these indictments always
being kind of disappointing and

556
00:31:55,700 –> 00:31:59,400
unimportant, right?
Even this one indictment hinges

557
00:31:59,400 –> 00:32:03,600
on such questionable details.
The main issue is whether or not

558
00:32:03,800 –> 00:32:07,100
Sussman told the FBI he was
working on behalf of the Clinton

559
00:32:07,300 –> 00:32:09,500
campaign.
The indictment claims.

560
00:32:09,500 –> 00:32:12,100
He told the FBI, he was acting
independently.

561
00:32:12,200 –> 00:32:16,400
And this special counsels
opinion is that he was working

562
00:32:16,400 –> 00:32:19,100
on behalf of the Clinton
campaign and just lied to the

563
00:32:19,100 –> 00:32:23,500
FBI in what you’ll take note of
is at no point.

564
00:32:23,500 –> 00:32:29,200
Do they say what he did was
illegal or say, buying the act

565
00:32:29,200 –> 00:32:32,600
of having gathered this
information and taking it to the

566
00:32:32,600 –> 00:32:35,800
FBI in?
And Of itself was not illegal,

567
00:32:35,900 –> 00:32:37,900
right?
That never comes up in this

568
00:32:37,900 –> 00:32:39,500
indictment.
So here’s the thing.

569
00:32:39,600 –> 00:32:43,000
I don’t give a fuck, right?
I’ll probably like if you put

570
00:32:43,000 –> 00:32:45,900
the FBI in front of me and they
were like are you Adam Todd

571
00:32:45,900 –> 00:32:48,000
Brown?
I’d be like, no way.

572
00:32:48,000 –> 00:32:50,000
I’m sure I guarantee you.
I’d Panic immediately.

573
00:32:50,200 –> 00:32:52,700
The FBI says a single word to
me.

574
00:32:52,800 –> 00:32:55,000
My only response is the word
lawyer.

575
00:32:55,400 –> 00:32:58,200
That is.
That is how I have been taught

576
00:32:58,200 –> 00:33:00,400
through life.
I’m not answering questions

577
00:33:00,400 –> 00:33:02,800
today.
Yeah, and you just back away

578
00:33:02,800 –> 00:33:07,400
slowly and get Money, yeah, I
will never never talked to the

579
00:33:07,400 –> 00:33:09,100
FBI.
Oh my God.

580
00:33:09,200 –> 00:33:12,900
And the reason I said all the
rush of stuff brings us back to

581
00:33:13,100 –> 00:33:16,400
this, Russia investigation
investigation is because of the

582
00:33:16,400 –> 00:33:19,000
second indictment that came
down.

583
00:33:19,000 –> 00:33:21,700
In this case.
The Michael Sussman one is, just

584
00:33:21,700 –> 00:33:23,500
a matter of.
Did he tell the FBI?

585
00:33:23,500 –> 00:33:26,500
He had clients are not, it’s
just smoke.

586
00:33:26,600 –> 00:33:29,500
The next indictment came, a few
months later.

587
00:33:29,500 –> 00:33:33,500
In November, 20 21.
That’s when Igor demchenko the

588
00:33:33,700 –> 00:33:37,800
The primary researcher Behind
the Steel dossier was arrested

589
00:33:37,800 –> 00:33:41,100
and charged with five counts of
lying to the FBI.

590
00:33:41,200 –> 00:33:44,900
He was interviewed several times
as part of the molar probe which

591
00:33:44,900 –> 00:33:47,500
itself debunked.
Some of the steel dossier

592
00:33:47,500 –> 00:33:51,400
claims.
But again, in one instance, it’s

593
00:33:51,400 –> 00:33:54,400
alleged that he told the FBI.
He never discussed the steel

594
00:33:54,400 –> 00:33:57,100
dossier with this one.
PR executive.

595
00:33:57,200 –> 00:34:01,400
He had ties to the DNC and then
that PR executive turned out to

596
00:34:01,400 –> 00:34:05,100
be the source when some of the
Often the steel dossier, reach

597
00:34:05,100 –> 00:34:09,000
the media, which unless I’m
reading it, wrong still doesn’t

598
00:34:09,000 –> 00:34:12,100
like it’s still not proof that
he told them about it and then

599
00:34:12,100 –> 00:34:15,199
someone else and they told him.
But either way, I don’t care.

600
00:34:15,699 –> 00:34:21,800
And neither the other four
counts stem from his

601
00:34:21,800 –> 00:34:24,100
interactions.
With this guy named sir guy

602
00:34:24,199 –> 00:34:26,400
million.
Who was the former president of

603
00:34:26,400 –> 00:34:28,400
the Russian American Chamber of
Commerce.

604
00:34:28,400 –> 00:34:31,600
And in that case, he told the
FBI, he received a call in Late

605
00:34:31,600 –> 00:34:35,300
July from an anonymous.
A Russian male who he guessed

606
00:34:35,300 –> 00:34:38,199
Serbian Milian but then the
Durham investigation found an

607
00:34:38,199 –> 00:34:40,199
email.
That’s worded in a way that

608
00:34:40,199 –> 00:34:42,100
suggests that phone call.
Never happened.

609
00:34:42,100 –> 00:34:44,900
Good luck.
Living this Scandal down Global

610
00:34:44,900 –> 00:34:49,699
sex trafficking Elites.
I don’t this is so it’s nothing,

611
00:34:49,699 –> 00:34:54,300
it’s nothing again.
If this was them saying what he

612
00:34:54,300 –> 00:34:58,800
did was illegal, right?
Like what Igor Dan chanko did

613
00:34:58,800 –> 00:35:03,900
was illegal then?
Yes like his Gathering of The

614
00:35:03,900 –> 00:35:06,500
steel dossier information was
that illegal?

615
00:35:06,500 –> 00:35:10,300
The problem is no one like the
people investigating and the

616
00:35:10,300 –> 00:35:15,500
people who like, you know,
started the bar and and and them

617
00:35:15,800 –> 00:35:19,600
they don’t want to say that it’s
anything that they’re doing is

618
00:35:19,800 –> 00:35:24,500
these people are doing is
illegal because they want to be

619
00:35:24,500 –> 00:35:26,900
able to keep doing it.
Yeah.

620
00:35:27,000 –> 00:35:29,600
Let me just don’t be able to do
it as a bright.

621
00:35:29,600 –> 00:35:33,500
So they’re like insinuating that
it’s bad and that it should.

622
00:35:33,600 –> 00:35:37,300
Not be done, but they never say
it’s illegal because they don’t

623
00:35:37,300 –> 00:35:40,700
want someone to say that.
What they’re doing is illegal.

624
00:35:41,000 –> 00:35:45,600
It’s just this whole again.
It’s so petty and it’s no wonder

625
00:35:45,600 –> 00:35:49,800
that this story.
The second investigation has not

626
00:35:49,800 –> 00:35:54,500
made any impact because it was
started in fucking 2020.

627
00:35:54,600 –> 00:35:56,600
Wonder?
What else was going on in 2020.

628
00:35:56,600 –> 00:35:59,700
They have people’s attention.
Yeah, like nothing like there’s

629
00:35:59,700 –> 00:36:03,500
just unless you have some
fucking rock solid.

630
00:36:03,700 –> 00:36:06,700
Evidence.
Nothing is gonna Pierce the

631
00:36:06,700 –> 00:36:10,800
covid Veil like not for a while
when it comes to this shit.

632
00:36:11,000 –> 00:36:13,500
The only thing that’s gonna do
it is war with Russia.

633
00:36:13,500 –> 00:36:19,800
And I think people on the left
and Democrats liberals, I think

634
00:36:19,800 –> 00:36:21,200
those are all kind of three
different groups.

635
00:36:21,200 –> 00:36:25,900
But oh, yeah, I think there is
some element among all those

636
00:36:25,900 –> 00:36:28,600
groups that needs to understand
that the Russian investigation

637
00:36:28,600 –> 00:36:32,100
could have been that same thing
where it’s Russia approaching

638
00:36:32,100 –> 00:36:33,400
someone with something they
know.

639
00:36:33,600 –> 00:36:37,900
Is mostly fake right in the
hopes that that person will

640
00:36:37,900 –> 00:36:42,200
spread it and he discredited and
it seems like that’s what

641
00:36:42,200 –> 00:36:44,300
happened to Hillary Clinton,
right?

642
00:36:44,300 –> 00:36:47,400
Equalize that is steel dossier
information.

643
00:36:47,400 –> 00:36:51,700
That Igor, Dan chenko collects.
He gives it to steal.

644
00:36:51,700 –> 00:36:53,100
I’ve it was his name,
Christopher steal.

645
00:36:53,100 –> 00:36:55,300
I think I have no idea what this
looks first.

646
00:36:55,300 –> 00:36:58,700
Name is a man of steel and he
compiles it and gives it to the

647
00:36:58,700 –> 00:37:02,400
Clinton campaign in the Clinton
campaign is the source for a lot

648
00:37:02,400 –> 00:37:05,500
of the information.
And that leaks from the steel

649
00:37:05,500 –> 00:37:08,800
dossier to the media.
So that could be your Russian

650
00:37:08,800 –> 00:37:10,500
influence right there.
Yeah.

651
00:37:10,500 –> 00:37:12,200
That’s the only thing that’s
Putin’s.

652
00:37:12,400 –> 00:37:15,700
He’s a fucking spy.
He that’s what he is.

653
00:37:15,700 –> 00:37:18,600
That’s where he comes from and
Isaac’s that but that’s what

654
00:37:18,600 –> 00:37:23,000
Russia does, right?
If you read like Russia is not

655
00:37:23,000 –> 00:37:25,700
that closed off from the world
that you can’t read some of

656
00:37:25,707 –> 00:37:29,600
their military stuff, wait and
their whole like they don’t have

657
00:37:29,600 –> 00:37:33,500
the money to fight actual Wars
where they’re going in and out.

658
00:37:33,600 –> 00:37:37,200
They can invade Ukraine, that’s
like a trip to the store, right?

659
00:37:37,200 –> 00:37:40,200
They’re not going to invade the
United States right now.

660
00:37:40,200 –> 00:37:43,500
I don’t need to, they might set
up dueling black lives matter

661
00:37:43,500 –> 00:37:47,400
protests in your town and then
send someone to throw a Molotov

662
00:37:47,400 –> 00:37:49,400
cocktail into the crowd.
Exactly.

663
00:37:49,600 –> 00:37:53,000
Well, this is the whole thing.
Like, I mean that and that’s

664
00:37:53,000 –> 00:37:56,100
probably, you know, the election
tampering thing.

665
00:37:56,100 –> 00:38:00,500
Like there’s, you know, eat that
probably wasn’t like, actually

666
00:38:00,500 –> 00:38:05,100
trying to sway the election.
It’s just In people out and

667
00:38:05,100 –> 00:38:08,400
people were already freaked out
because Trump was very popular.

668
00:38:08,800 –> 00:38:13,400
And so it was just there was
just a very clear opportunity

669
00:38:13,400 –> 00:38:18,800
there to totally break America,
the American perception of

670
00:38:18,800 –> 00:38:20,800
reality, and that is what has
happened.

671
00:38:20,800 –> 00:38:26,400
Over the last six, like more
than six years, like is just the

672
00:38:26,400 –> 00:38:32,600
complete dissolution of a shared
reality and that is so much more

673
00:38:32,600 –> 00:38:36,600
damaging.
Than any bomb that could be

674
00:38:36,600 –> 00:38:40,700
dropped or any election.
That could be stolen is just

675
00:38:40,700 –> 00:38:44,000
that total corruption.
Like, the thing that keeps us

676
00:38:44,000 –> 00:38:46,600
from ever finding common ground.
Yeah.

677
00:38:46,900 –> 00:38:49,300
Yeah.
I think we have legitimately

678
00:38:49,300 –> 00:38:52,600
past the point where we’re ever
going to find Common Ground.

679
00:38:52,600 –> 00:38:53,500
Yeah.
Absolutely.

680
00:38:53,500 –> 00:38:56,900
I can’t, I mean, I know I
personally cannot find common

681
00:38:56,900 –> 00:39:00,100
ground with a republican.
That is impossible to me.

682
00:39:00,200 –> 00:39:03,400
Yeah, the thing about that for
me is there.

683
00:39:03,600 –> 00:39:05,900
And be issues.
We agree on.

684
00:39:06,100 –> 00:39:09,500
I agree.
We needed space force, things

685
00:39:09,500 –> 00:39:12,000
like that.
Like I feel like I have no

686
00:39:12,000 –> 00:39:16,900
problem, finding common ground
there, but it’s the other stuff

687
00:39:16,900 –> 00:39:22,000
that people on that side believe
that makes it so unpalatable.

688
00:39:22,300 –> 00:39:25,700
But here’s the thing like for me
everything about trump.

689
00:39:25,700 –> 00:39:28,900
It started with immigration.
Like that was my absolute

690
00:39:28,900 –> 00:39:33,300
initial concern about Trump was
the immigration in it still.

691
00:39:33,500 –> 00:39:37,500
Kinda is.
Yeah, but I’m also not enough of

692
00:39:37,500 –> 00:39:40,400
a fundamentalist to not accept
that.

693
00:39:40,600 –> 00:39:44,500
Well, Obama and Biden started
that and things aren’t any

694
00:39:44,500 –> 00:39:48,300
better under Biden.
No worse in.

695
00:39:48,600 –> 00:39:53,100
What’s frustrating is if you
hold that view of things where

696
00:39:53,100 –> 00:39:56,000
well, yeah, Trump was a monster
when it came to immigration.

697
00:39:56,000 –> 00:39:58,400
But so, is Biden and Obama?
Yeah.

698
00:39:58,400 –> 00:40:01,100
Well, now you’re a Centrist.
And it’s like, no, I’m not.

699
00:40:01,100 –> 00:40:05,300
No, like I left this.
And, yeah, here’s the thing.

700
00:40:05,400 –> 00:40:10,900
I align with what people on the
left, believe, but also you got

701
00:40:10,900 –> 00:40:15,300
to be able to criticize your own
side, absolute it, and Biden.

702
00:40:15,300 –> 00:40:20,300
I don’t consider my side.
No, but he’s closer to my side.

703
00:40:20,300 –> 00:40:23,200
I mean, sure.
Yeah, conceptually, right?

704
00:40:23,300 –> 00:40:24,700
That’s right.
Again.

705
00:40:24,700 –> 00:40:28,600
This is the whole thing about
the fractured reality is that

706
00:40:28,800 –> 00:40:32,200
we’re talking about something
that should be a very easy

707
00:40:32,200 –> 00:40:36,100
connection.
And instead, we have to go into

708
00:40:36,100 –> 00:40:40,600
this very high-minded.
Like you said conceptual like

709
00:40:40,600 –> 00:40:45,500
hypothetical reality of like,
okay, ignoring everything else.

710
00:40:45,500 –> 00:40:49,700
That sucks.
He agrees with me on these

711
00:40:49,700 –> 00:40:52,300
issues.
And other than that, we

712
00:40:52,300 –> 00:40:55,500
disagree.
But I guess on the grand scheme

713
00:40:55,500 –> 00:40:59,000
of things.
It’s he’s closer to me that

714
00:40:59,000 –> 00:41:01,700
like, that’s, it’s just
everything that we’re dealing

715
00:41:01,700 –> 00:41:02,900
with.
Yeah.

716
00:41:03,000 –> 00:41:05,600
What.
I See happening with people

717
00:41:05,600 –> 00:41:10,100
listening to this episode who
are a little more fervent in

718
00:41:10,100 –> 00:41:14,900
their support of either side.
I think we’re being pretty fair

719
00:41:14,900 –> 00:41:18,700
when it comes to criticizing
both halves of the Russian

720
00:41:18,700 –> 00:41:21,900
investigation, the Democrat half
and the Republican half.

721
00:41:21,900 –> 00:41:25,300
Yeah, and in a perfect world
people would hear that and be

722
00:41:25,300 –> 00:41:27,600
like, oh, well, that’s fair.
Right.

723
00:41:27,600 –> 00:41:31,200
Get like you have your
criticisms, but no people on the

724
00:41:31,200 –> 00:41:33,400
left are going to here.
Oh well.

725
00:41:33,500 –> 00:41:36,200
He’s saying the Russian
investigation wasn’t anything.

726
00:41:36,200 –> 00:41:37,700
And that’s bullshit.
Right?

727
00:41:37,800 –> 00:41:41,500
Like they’re only going to hear
ya that I’m criticizing that and

728
00:41:41,500 –> 00:41:44,300
people on the right.
Will only hear that.

729
00:41:44,300 –> 00:41:47,100
Well your your investigations
bullshit to.

730
00:41:47,200 –> 00:41:51,100
Yeah, like it can’t be that it
has to be no, we’re both like

731
00:41:51,100 –> 00:41:56,300
we’re both absolutely right in
our stance and that you won’t

732
00:41:56,300 –> 00:41:59,100
that that’s that’s the
contradiction there with the

733
00:41:59,100 –> 00:42:01,100
right there.
Like, man.

734
00:42:01,100 –> 00:42:03,400
Why can’t you just have an open
mind?

735
00:42:03,600 –> 00:42:06,800
And in except that, everything
we say is correct, in

736
00:42:06,800 –> 00:42:08,100
everything.
They say is wrong.

737
00:42:08,100 –> 00:42:10,700
It’s like yeah, it’s not like
you’re not being a Maverick,

738
00:42:10,700 –> 00:42:12,500
you’re just the other half of
the country.

739
00:42:12,500 –> 00:42:14,400
Exactly.
Or not being a free thinker.

740
00:42:14,400 –> 00:42:18,100
You’re just choosing which
fucking Northstar you want to

741
00:42:18,100 –> 00:42:20,900
follow like calm down.
Yeah.

742
00:42:21,200 –> 00:42:23,800
It’s I like that.
I just said calm down.

743
00:42:23,800 –> 00:42:26,700
I’m fucking calm down my heart
beating and shit.

744
00:42:26,800 –> 00:42:29,000
I mean with fucking shit man.
Like it.

745
00:42:29,000 –> 00:42:32,000
So these are the things that
it’s okay to get angry about

746
00:42:32,000 –> 00:42:34,900
because they are actively.
Destroying the world.

747
00:42:35,400 –> 00:42:39,300
So I think it’s okay to get kind
of heated about that stuff.

748
00:42:39,500 –> 00:42:42,900
It’s the fact that, you know,
everyone else is getting fucking

749
00:42:42,900 –> 00:42:45,200
mad about bullshit.
That doesn’t matter.

750
00:42:45,500 –> 00:42:46,500
Yeah.
No man.

751
00:42:46,900 –> 00:42:49,700
I don’t know.
I again, I don’t know if it’s

752
00:42:49,700 –> 00:42:54,600
obvious that I’m in a real
existential mood and I’m usually

753
00:42:54,600 –> 00:42:57,300
existential, but like, holy
shit.

754
00:42:57,400 –> 00:42:59,600
I’m in a real mood.
I hear you.

755
00:43:00,700 –> 00:43:03,700
So, let’s close this out.
Yeah, for one thing, the Michael

756
00:43:03,700 –> 00:43:06,200
Sussman indictment.
This is another thing that keeps

757
00:43:06,200 –> 00:43:07,900
happening.
In this investigation.

758
00:43:08,500 –> 00:43:13,200
John Durham will release stuff
in court and media on the right

759
00:43:13,200 –> 00:43:15,600
which stop pretending media on
the rights.

760
00:43:15,600 –> 00:43:17,400
Not mainstream media.
Also.

761
00:43:17,500 –> 00:43:21,500
Yeah, get over yourselves.
Fox News is mainstream media,

762
00:43:21,600 –> 00:43:25,500
like, unfortunately, it is.
It’s just again, you’re just the

763
00:43:25,500 –> 00:43:29,900
other half, right?
Well, I’m so and fucking again.

764
00:43:30,000 –> 00:43:33,700
Then hold tangent, but like none
of the liberal media side is

765
00:43:33,700 –> 00:43:35,900
actually that.
That’s the whole again.

766
00:43:36,300 –> 00:43:38,800
We’re just a right-wing country
where you’re just a right-wing

767
00:43:38,800 –> 00:43:41,400
fascist country.
That’s the that is the end point

768
00:43:41,400 –> 00:43:44,200
of all of this stuff.
And what you see happening with

769
00:43:44,200 –> 00:43:48,000
this version of the Russian
investigation is John Durham

770
00:43:48,000 –> 00:43:51,100
will file something in court and
right-leaning.

771
00:43:51,100 –> 00:43:55,200
Media will seize on one detail
of it and be like, see this is

772
00:43:55,200 –> 00:43:59,500
some Smoking Gun evidence.
Yet Democrats were spying on

773
00:43:59,500 –> 00:44:01,900
Trump.
And with the Michael Sussman

774
00:44:01,900 –> 00:44:06,300
indictment, it’s basically an
FBI agents word against Michael

775
00:44:06,300 –> 00:44:08,900
sussman’s word.
And who do I trust in that

776
00:44:08,900 –> 00:44:10,500
situation?
Neither of them?

777
00:44:10,700 –> 00:44:14,400
Right.
But uh, huh, John Durham filed

778
00:44:14,500 –> 00:44:18,200
some new evidence.
It came out in December 20 21,

779
00:44:18,200 –> 00:44:20,800
December 8th that John Durham
files.

780
00:44:20,800 –> 00:44:25,000
All of this new evidence and
there’s like one piece that does

781
00:44:25,000 –> 00:44:27,700
point to Michael Sussman.
Having said, he doesn’t have

782
00:44:27,700 –> 00:44:29,900
clients.
I think it was an interaction.

783
00:44:30,000 –> 00:44:33,800
In with the CIA and the the
right-leaning media seizes on

784
00:44:33,800 –> 00:44:36,600
that.
But then, if you go read up on

785
00:44:36,600 –> 00:44:39,500
what he actually released their
be like, for other things that

786
00:44:39,500 –> 00:44:42,600
make it seem like Michael
Sussman didn’t lie to the FBI.

787
00:44:42,600 –> 00:44:45,700
And in this case, there are
handwritten notes.

788
00:44:45,800 –> 00:44:49,300
We’re FBI literally, says
Sussman said.

789
00:44:49,300 –> 00:44:51,600
He represents a client who does
not want to be known.

790
00:44:51,600 –> 00:44:54,500
Another note that says the plan
should be to convince Sussman

791
00:44:54,500 –> 00:44:58,200
that it is in his and his
clients interest to go to the

792
00:44:58,207 –> 00:45:01,000
FBI.
So What about that?

793
00:45:01,000 –> 00:45:03,400
If you think this is Smoking Gun
evidence?

794
00:45:03,600 –> 00:45:05,800
Yeah, Michael Sussman committed
a crime.

795
00:45:06,000 –> 00:45:08,100
What about those notes that say
he did?

796
00:45:08,100 –> 00:45:10,400
Tell them he right?
No.

797
00:45:10,400 –> 00:45:13,200
No, they don’t count I guess.
Yeah, like I’m sorry.

798
00:45:13,200 –> 00:45:17,300
We read all of it forming.
That’s the thing.

799
00:45:17,600 –> 00:45:20,300
Yeah, you know, they’re not
expect and here’s the thing.

800
00:45:20,400 –> 00:45:22,000
Most people don’t know.
Yeah.

801
00:45:22,000 –> 00:45:24,300
I mean, most people don’t know
about any like, I’m not gonna

802
00:45:24,300 –> 00:45:26,400
lie.
I didn’t know about any of this

803
00:45:26,400 –> 00:45:30,500
shit that was happening in 2021.
And this year, I thought, I was

804
00:45:30,500 –> 00:45:36,500
not like any aspect of a Russian
investigation investigation in

805
00:45:36,500 –> 00:45:39,700
the year of Our Lord, 20 21 and
20 22.

806
00:45:40,100 –> 00:45:43,800
I had no knowledge.
And I mean that actually brings

807
00:45:43,800 –> 00:45:48,100
us to the last thing I want to
talk about which is just

808
00:45:48,100 –> 00:45:52,100
recently on Valentine’s Day
actually how romantic there was

809
00:45:52,100 –> 00:45:56,500
some more court filings that
happened that right-leaning

810
00:45:56,500 –> 00:45:59,800
media seized on right as
definitive proof.

811
00:46:00,000 –> 00:46:04,900
Trump was spied on, will link
to, I guess the least offensive

812
00:46:04,900 –> 00:46:09,100
of the right media being Wall
Street Journal.

813
00:46:09,100 –> 00:46:12,200
They write the Wall Street
Journal, ran an editorial.

814
00:46:12,200 –> 00:46:15,700
That just straight up said,
Trump really was spied on,

815
00:46:15,800 –> 00:46:19,200
right?
And that is what right-leaning

816
00:46:19,200 –> 00:46:23,400
media took from this, John
Durham filing, right?

817
00:46:23,400 –> 00:46:29,200
And the reason they said that is
because it came out that one the

818
00:46:29,200 –> 00:46:31,700
monitoring.
Of Trumps internet activity

819
00:46:31,700 –> 00:46:35,900
carried on into 2017 when he was
already president.

820
00:46:35,900 –> 00:46:40,200
And what John Durham or what
people thought, John Durham was

821
00:46:40,200 –> 00:46:43,700
implying in this filing.
Was that Michael Sussman?

822
00:46:44,000 –> 00:46:46,500
And this guy named Rodney?
Joseph, who was me Tech

823
00:46:46,500 –> 00:46:50,000
executive named in the Michael
Sussman indictment, but just

824
00:46:50,000 –> 00:46:54,000
named Aztec executive one.
What people are arguing.

825
00:46:54,000 –> 00:46:57,300
This filing says, is that Rodney
joffe.

826
00:46:57,300 –> 00:46:59,800
Got a government contract to
monitor it.

827
00:47:00,000 –> 00:47:04,100
And that traffic and then
exploited that traffic to spy on

828
00:47:04,100 –> 00:47:05,100
Trump.
Sure.

829
00:47:05,100 –> 00:47:08,700
And the way he spied on Trump
was his team of researchers

830
00:47:08,700 –> 00:47:12,700
noticed, weird, internet
activity and they decided to run

831
00:47:12,700 –> 00:47:16,000
that up the food chain and see
what happens, which sounds

832
00:47:16,000 –> 00:47:18,700
damning.
If you’re reading a very skilled

833
00:47:18,700 –> 00:47:21,300
Wall, Street Journal writer tell
you about it.

834
00:47:21,308 –> 00:47:25,200
But what they’re really saying
is these people did their job,

835
00:47:25,200 –> 00:47:27,800
right?
This guy was hired by the White

836
00:47:27,800 –> 00:47:32,700
House in response to To a
Russian hacking attempt, to

837
00:47:32,700 –> 00:47:36,100
monitor, internet traffic.
And if you see anything weird,

838
00:47:36,100 –> 00:47:39,000
tell us, right.
So these people saw something

839
00:47:39,000 –> 00:47:42,000
weird and they like went back
and forth.

840
00:47:42,000 –> 00:47:44,000
Like are we, is this really what
we’re seeing?

841
00:47:44,000 –> 00:47:46,900
Should we even phrase?
Say anything about this and they

842
00:47:46,900 –> 00:47:50,900
end up sending it up the
flagpole and whether they were

843
00:47:50,900 –> 00:47:53,600
doing it on behalf of the
Clinton campaign or not.

844
00:47:53,700 –> 00:47:59,000
I don’t know, but I do know that
they haven’t really proven that

845
00:47:59,000 –> 00:48:01,200
in more.
In a Year’s worth of

846
00:48:01,200 –> 00:48:04,700
investigating it and also it
never came to anything.

847
00:48:04,900 –> 00:48:07,700
So why are we investigating it?
Who gives a fuck?

848
00:48:07,800 –> 00:48:10,000
No one except Trump.
It’s the whole thing.

849
00:48:10,100 –> 00:48:10,700
Yeah.
Yeah.

850
00:48:10,700 –> 00:48:13,800
It didn’t amount to anything at
all.

851
00:48:14,000 –> 00:48:18,500
Like this just feels like
retribution and it’s retribution

852
00:48:18,500 –> 00:48:20,700
against like cool.
You’re going to take down a

853
00:48:20,707 –> 00:48:23,100
lawyer in the campaign.
Yeah.

854
00:48:23,200 –> 00:48:25,100
Congratulations.
Yeah, still tight.

855
00:48:25,100 –> 00:48:28,300
Everything, you know fucking
Hillary Clinton is just like a

856
00:48:28,300 –> 00:48:34,000
fucking Poltergeist.
Cal haunts this nation but like,

857
00:48:34,000 –> 00:48:37,900
you know, people probably were
spying on Trump and you know

858
00:48:37,900 –> 00:48:40,100
what, how ugly?
I don’t care.

859
00:48:40,200 –> 00:48:43,700
I think that’s actually probably
one of the better things that

860
00:48:43,700 –> 00:48:47,700
the FBI is ever done.
If they did it because he sucks

861
00:48:47,900 –> 00:48:50,300
and he was probably doing a
bunch of illegal shit

862
00:48:50,500 –> 00:48:53,800
Spider-Man, every president.
Yes.

863
00:48:54,000 –> 00:48:56,600
Absolutely.
Why does the president get

864
00:48:56,600 –> 00:48:58,900
privacy?
That doesn’t make any fucking

865
00:48:58,900 –> 00:49:01,100
sense?
There should be Webcam in the

866
00:49:01,100 –> 00:49:04,000
Oval Office.
Well, I’ll just get to watch

867
00:49:04,000 –> 00:49:06,700
like the fucking Nixon
recordings should have just

868
00:49:06,700 –> 00:49:08,900
beneficial that.
Should it just be?

869
00:49:09,100 –> 00:49:12,000
What happens is?
Everything is being recorded all

870
00:49:12,000 –> 00:49:13,000
the time.
Yeah.

871
00:49:13,100 –> 00:49:16,800
So what happened with this
latest break-in?

872
00:49:17,500 –> 00:49:21,400
The Russia investigation
investigation is the right.

873
00:49:21,400 –> 00:49:23,000
Came out and said here’s your
Smoking Gun proof.

874
00:49:23,000 –> 00:49:27,400
Trump was being lied or spied on
the left media came out and

875
00:49:27,408 –> 00:49:31,000
said, no, they were just, you
know, doing their job.

876
00:49:31,100 –> 00:49:36,800
And what happens in cases like
this is the right will then move

877
00:49:36,800 –> 00:49:37,400
on to.
Well.

878
00:49:37,400 –> 00:49:39,700
The left is covering this up.
That’s why.

879
00:49:39,800 –> 00:49:43,800
Of course, they’re not talking
about this and I read a will

880
00:49:43,800 –> 00:49:47,400
link to a ton of articles about
this a few of them are written

881
00:49:47,400 –> 00:49:50,700
by a guy named Charlie Savage.
Great name writes for the

882
00:49:50,700 –> 00:49:55,200
Washington Post and age when he
was talking about the lack of

883
00:49:55,200 –> 00:49:58,700
media coverage of this news.
He brings up an interesting

884
00:49:58,700 –> 00:49:59,800
point.
Here’s a quote.

885
00:50:00,100 –> 00:50:04,500
He says these Revelations quote,
tend to involve dense and

886
00:50:04,500 –> 00:50:07,500
obscure issues.
So dissecting them requires

887
00:50:07,500 –> 00:50:10,800
asking readers to expend
significant, mental, energy and

888
00:50:10,800 –> 00:50:13,400
time.
Raising the question of whether

889
00:50:13,400 –> 00:50:16,200
news outlet should even cover
such claims.

890
00:50:16,600 –> 00:50:19,000
Yet.
Trump allies portray the news

891
00:50:19,200 –> 00:50:21,800
media as engaged in a cover-up
if they don’t.

892
00:50:21,800 –> 00:50:24,100
And that sounds weird.
Like he’s saying, oh, we can’t

893
00:50:24,100 –> 00:50:27,900
trust people to think about
stuff that they read, but having

894
00:50:27,900 –> 00:50:31,300
spent what I expected.
It’d be about two or three hours

895
00:50:31,300 –> 00:50:34,600
researching this yesterday that
turned into like 6 to 8 because

896
00:50:34,600 –> 00:50:37,600
it’s so excruciating.
Lee whoring.

897
00:50:37,600 –> 00:50:41,000
I am so sorry, like I get what
he’s saying.

898
00:50:41,000 –> 00:50:45,500
Like this is, you’re going to do
a lot of mental gymnastics,

899
00:50:45,900 –> 00:50:50,400
sifting, through all the twists
and turns that, and at a single

900
00:50:50,400 –> 00:50:54,300
charge of lying to the FBI.
Yeah, and who wants to do that

901
00:50:54,300 –> 00:50:57,400
work?
It’s yeah, we just did it for

902
00:50:57,400 –> 00:50:59,700
you and we didn’t even want to
do it.

903
00:51:00,000 –> 00:51:03,000
Sucked sucked.
Yeah.

904
00:51:03,000 –> 00:51:06,400
No, it’s basically it’s
government-funded conspiracy

905
00:51:06,400 –> 00:51:09,500
theory that it’s the exact same
logic of conspiracy theories

906
00:51:09,600 –> 00:51:13,700
where it’s just, there’s a
million data points and if you

907
00:51:13,700 –> 00:51:16,800
put them all on a graph, you can
draw a line through them.

908
00:51:17,100 –> 00:51:19,700
And that doesn’t mean that
there’s anything there that just

909
00:51:19,700 –> 00:51:21,900
means that there’s a lot of shit
and I’m not saying that other

910
00:51:21,900 –> 00:51:25,300
Russian investigation wasn’t
that to my sure absolutely

911
00:51:25,300 –> 00:51:29,200
whatever man.
Like I and I’d ever want to talk

912
00:51:29,200 –> 00:51:34,400
about 20. 16 ever again.
I hate never ever, ever and

913
00:51:34,600 –> 00:51:37,700
like, I’m sorry, but in the case
of something like this, talk to

914
00:51:37,700 –> 00:51:40,500
me when it’s Hillary Clinton
being indicted to write me when

915
00:51:40,500 –> 00:51:43,700
it’s John podesta being
indicted, right?

916
00:51:43,700 –> 00:51:46,800
Until then like I don’t give a
shit if a single Clinton

917
00:51:46,800 –> 00:51:51,500
campaign lawyer lied to the FBI.
The I guess that’s not, that’s

918
00:51:51,500 –> 00:51:54,300
not going to alter the
foundation of our democracy,

919
00:51:54,400 –> 00:51:57,200
know if the only storage goes
down.

920
00:51:57,300 –> 00:52:02,000
Yeah, the only people that care
or even About that are either

921
00:52:02,000 –> 00:52:06,700
Trump or people who are so far
down the rabbit hole that

922
00:52:06,700 –> 00:52:09,700
daylight is like a foreign
concept to them.

923
00:52:09,700 –> 00:52:12,500
They just have not experienced
the sun in years.

924
00:52:12,500 –> 00:52:15,800
That’s how deep they are.
And if you were one of those

925
00:52:15,800 –> 00:52:18,800
people who was super excited
about the news that there is now

926
00:52:18,800 –> 00:52:22,500
Smoking Gun evidence that Trump
was spied on and you think we’re

927
00:52:22,500 –> 00:52:25,000
just not interpreting it the
same way.

928
00:52:25,000 –> 00:52:29,400
Everyone else is sure.
John Durham has also come out

929
00:52:29,400 –> 00:52:31,800
and Said that, that’s not really
what he meant.

930
00:52:31,800 –> 00:52:35,300
This is quote, if third parties
or members of the media have

931
00:52:35,300 –> 00:52:39,500
overstated understated or
otherwise, misinterpreted facts

932
00:52:39,500 –> 00:52:43,000
contained in the government’s
motion, that does not in any

933
00:52:43,000 –> 00:52:45,300
way.
Undermine the valid reasons for

934
00:52:45,300 –> 00:52:47,300
the government’s inclusion of
this information.

935
00:52:47,300 –> 00:52:53,200
So sure, I mean, that’s
basically just washing my hands.

936
00:52:53,200 –> 00:52:55,300
I yeah, this is look I just did
this.

937
00:52:55,300 –> 00:52:59,800
I you you take this information.
I don’t care what you do with

938
00:52:59,800 –> 00:53:01,500
it.
That’s not that’s not me.

939
00:53:01,500 –> 00:53:04,700
That’s not on me.
Yeah, so I mean if he’s not

940
00:53:04,700 –> 00:53:07,400
going to be definitive about it.
Yeah, I know.

941
00:53:08,500 –> 00:53:10,100
Why.
How are you?

942
00:53:10,200 –> 00:53:13,900
How do you expect again?
This is the whole right-wing

943
00:53:13,900 –> 00:53:16,500
mindset.
Is just like they just expect

944
00:53:16,500 –> 00:53:19,800
everyone to care about the
things that they care about in

945
00:53:19,800 –> 00:53:21,300
the same way that they care
about.

946
00:53:21,300 –> 00:53:23,900
And if you don’t, then you’re
covering it up or you’re lying.

947
00:53:24,100 –> 00:53:27,500
And it’s like, why do you expect
with everything that’s going on

948
00:53:27,500 –> 00:53:31,100
in the world in which Everything
that’s going on in this country.

949
00:53:31,100 –> 00:53:37,000
But with this very systems that
have basically been propping us

950
00:53:37,000 –> 00:53:40,200
up are collapsing around us.
How are we supposed to give a

951
00:53:40,200 –> 00:53:43,100
single?
Fuck about any of this shit?

952
00:53:43,200 –> 00:53:44,800
How do you expect anyone to
care?

953
00:53:44,800 –> 00:53:45,400
Yeah.
Yeah.

954
00:53:45,400 –> 00:53:49,400
It’s this is It’s a distraction.
It’s a distraction like the

955
00:53:49,400 –> 00:53:53,400
first Russian investigation, was
a distraction and it’s a worst

956
00:53:53,400 –> 00:53:55,900
distraction because nobody’s
listening.

957
00:53:56,400 –> 00:53:58,800
Yeah, so it’s not even doing
that job.

958
00:53:58,900 –> 00:54:01,800
Yeah.
Like do You have 20/20 election

959
00:54:01,800 –> 00:54:07,800
lawsuits to file like I mean
here again if the right wing and

960
00:54:07,800 –> 00:54:13,500
yeah because they do if the
right wing could even pretend to

961
00:54:13,500 –> 00:54:17,800
care about poor people and
minorities.

962
00:54:18,100 –> 00:54:23,800
They could be doing so much
fucking damage on the covid

963
00:54:23,800 –> 00:54:27,900
response on every on everything.
Yeah, like, they could push

964
00:54:27,900 –> 00:54:31,700
social services that would Would
actually help people and that

965
00:54:31,700 –> 00:54:34,900
would boost the Republican
party’s morale.

966
00:54:35,000 –> 00:54:37,400
I’m not morale.
But like they’re standing in the

967
00:54:37,400 –> 00:54:41,600
country and that would drive
people away from the Democratic

968
00:54:41,600 –> 00:54:44,700
party, but they are just
incapable ideologically

969
00:54:44,700 –> 00:54:47,500
incapable of doing that.
Yeah, and we’re going to all

970
00:54:47,500 –> 00:54:49,200
icon, our country’s just going
to dissolve.

971
00:54:49,200 –> 00:54:51,800
There’s not going to be a United
States in like 20 years.

972
00:54:52,000 –> 00:54:54,800
Oh, what a time to be alive.
I love it.

973
00:54:54,800 –> 00:54:56,000
So great.
Yeah.

974
00:54:56,000 –> 00:54:58,300
No, totally.
I, by the way, I am.

975
00:54:58,900 –> 00:55:01,900
I’m starting.
Cantonese on Duolingo.

976
00:55:03,700 –> 00:55:05,600
Probably a good choice.
Yeah.

977
00:55:05,700 –> 00:55:09,000
So there’s your mainstream media
coverage of the Russian

978
00:55:09,000 –> 00:55:11,900
investigation investigation.
You’re welcome everyday.

979
00:55:12,100 –> 00:55:14,000
We welcome.
We actually talked about

980
00:55:14,000 –> 00:55:15,700
important stuff in this episode
too.

981
00:55:15,700 –> 00:55:18,800
By the way.
Let’s just listen to the, to the

982
00:55:18,800 –> 00:55:21,900
Russian war thing.
We dug into stuff.

983
00:55:22,600 –> 00:55:25,800
Do we have anything to plug
before we get out of here,

984
00:55:27,100 –> 00:55:29,200
democracy?
Try to, yeah, that go mock

985
00:55:29,200 –> 00:55:31,000
receipt.
It’s not it’s not looking good,

986
00:55:31,000 –> 00:55:35,600
but don’t go to war.
Let’s yeah, let’s skip going to

987
00:55:35,600 –> 00:55:39,500
war and by that I don’t mean
let’s not go to war in Ukraine

988
00:55:39,500 –> 00:55:42,200
so we can invade Canada.
Come on.

989
00:55:42,400 –> 00:55:46,400
Have you heard this?
No, that’s that’s a thing now is

990
00:55:46,400 –> 00:55:48,800
people on the right.
One us to leave Ukraine alone

991
00:55:48,800 –> 00:55:51,600
and focus on invading Canada
because they broke up.

992
00:55:51,600 –> 00:55:54,800
Those trucker protest and we
certainly don’t stand for

993
00:55:55,100 –> 00:55:58,000
protests being broken up
violently in this country.

994
00:55:58,100 –> 00:56:01,200
Why wouldn’t they just do their
Aren’t they just gonna do their

995
00:56:01,200 –> 00:56:03,800
own trucker protest?
I just sort of got this just

996
00:56:03,800 –> 00:56:07,500
going to be what happens, right?
And trucker shortage.

997
00:56:08,100 –> 00:56:10,000
I don’t know.
I mean, man.

998
00:56:10,000 –> 00:56:12,100
What the fuck?
Yeah.

999
00:56:12,100 –> 00:56:18,300
I’m going to plug despair.
I’m going to say Joe, Biden.

1000
00:56:18,300 –> 00:56:22,800
Please, for once in your life.
Do the right thing.

1001
00:56:22,800 –> 00:56:27,000
I know it’s hard, but I don’t
want to go.

1002
00:56:27,000 –> 00:56:30,300
I don’t want there to be War.
I really don’t like That’s maybe

1003
00:56:30,300 –> 00:56:32,000
this is just this is just
honesty.

1004
00:56:32,400 –> 00:56:36,300
I really I really don’t want
that that that it makes me so to

1005
00:56:36,300 –> 00:56:40,000
my stomach, especially not one
that could very easily, turn

1006
00:56:40,000 –> 00:56:42,700
into a World War to turn into a
World War.

1007
00:56:42,700 –> 00:56:45,400
Could it just there’s just going
to be able just result.

1008
00:56:45,400 –> 00:56:47,400
There’s so many people are gonna
die.

1009
00:56:47,400 –> 00:56:49,600
It’s going to be so awful for
our species.

1010
00:56:49,700 –> 00:56:53,400
If yep, if this war happens, so
please don’t.

1011
00:56:53,500 –> 00:56:55,600
I hope it doesn’t happen.
That’s my plug.

1012
00:56:56,000 –> 00:56:59,400
Oh and also you can follow me on
Twitter and letterbox that hi

1013
00:56:59,400 –> 00:57:02,000
there.
Our, I just watched the humans

1014
00:57:02,200 –> 00:57:06,000
from last year.
I only highly recommend.

1015
00:57:06,000 –> 00:57:07,700
How do ya like that?
Humans you what?

1016
00:57:07,700 –> 00:57:11,600
You saw that movie destroyed me
last night.

1017
00:57:11,600 –> 00:57:16,600
It’s really a fucking absolutely
rocked my world.

1018
00:57:18,200 –> 00:57:20,300
So watch the humans.
Yeah, watch the humans.

1019
00:57:20,300 –> 00:57:21,600
Really Steven.
Yawns.

1020
00:57:21,600 –> 00:57:25,000
Great eye.
You can follow me on Twitter and

1021
00:57:25,000 –> 00:57:27,400
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that’s tied with 1D.

1022
00:57:27,500 –> 00:57:29,600
Can follow the podcast on
Twitter and Instagram.

1023
00:57:29,700 –> 00:57:34,100
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you know, bonus episodes.

1024
00:57:34,100 –> 00:57:36,600
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Network.

1025
00:57:36,600 –> 00:57:40,400
Got super cast, dot Tech, or
right there in your Spotify app.

1026
00:57:41,200 –> 00:57:44,500
Bonus episodes everywhere.
I think an apple podcast to

1027
00:57:44,500 –> 00:57:46,900
maybe, so.
Yeah, I think now, I’m certainly

1028
00:57:46,900 –> 00:57:49,900
not getting money from them.
So no better not be able to

1029
00:57:49,900 –> 00:57:52,600
right now, and I think that’s
it.

1030
00:57:52,600 –> 00:57:54,800
Let’s get out of here.
Livia, say goodbye.

1031
00:57:55,000 –> 00:57:56,400
Bye.
Goodbye.

1032
00:57:56,400 –> 00:57:57,400
Everybody.
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