Adam dives into the conspiracy theory classic Behold a Pale Horse and comes up with some conspiracy theories of his own.
Show notes: https://unpops.co/3b5p9aR
00:00:10,700 –> 00:00:13,100
Which one’s did I choose this
one?
2
00:00:31,600 –> 00:00:35,300
Hey everybody, Welcome to
conspiracy the show.
3
00:00:35,600 –> 00:00:39,100
I’m your host, Adam Todd Brown
joining me as co-host this week.
4
00:00:39,100 –> 00:00:42,200
Oh my favorite co-host of all,
no co-host.
5
00:00:42,300 –> 00:00:47,400
I am going it alone today.
And last week, if you are a
6
00:00:47,400 –> 00:00:51,200
subscriber to the bonus
episodes, you know that last
7
00:00:51,200 –> 00:00:54,500
week’s episode was also a solo
episode where we talked about
8
00:00:54,700 –> 00:00:57,400
Out.
A guy named Milton William
9
00:00:57,400 –> 00:01:01,100
Cooper.
Who is the author of a seminal
10
00:01:01,100 –> 00:01:04,599
conspiracy theory book, called,
Behold a Pale Horse?
11
00:01:04,700 –> 00:01:09,000
And last week’s episode was all
about the man, who wrote the
12
00:01:09,000 –> 00:01:13,500
book, Behold a Pale Horse, this
week’s episode and the next free
13
00:01:13,500 –> 00:01:17,700
episode are both going to be
about the book itself.
14
00:01:17,700 –> 00:01:21,300
Behold a Pale Horse if you’re
listening to this podcast but
15
00:01:21,300 –> 00:01:24,500
have never read that book or
have not at least.
16
00:01:24,600 –> 00:01:28,500
It heard of that book, I would
be genuinely surprised.
17
00:01:28,500 –> 00:01:32,500
It is arguably the most
influential conspiracy theory
18
00:01:32,500 –> 00:01:36,400
book ever published if your
favorite rapper has ever
19
00:01:36,400 –> 00:01:40,500
name-checked the Illuminati and
they have, they probably first
20
00:01:40,500 –> 00:01:44,900
read about it in this book or at
least if you’re my age and have
21
00:01:44,900 –> 00:01:47,000
a favorite rapper, that’s the
case.
22
00:01:47,400 –> 00:01:51,000
I’m sure these Young Bucks, just
learn about the Illuminati on
23
00:01:51,000 –> 00:01:55,800
Tick-Tock or something, but the
popularity of this Has not been
24
00:01:55,800 –> 00:02:00,800
at all diminished by the rise of
the internet and social media as
25
00:02:00,800 –> 00:02:05,600
I record this Behold.
A Pale Horse holds a very modest
26
00:02:05,600 –> 00:02:11,700
overall sales ranking of 29,000
and 32 in the Kindle store but
27
00:02:11,800 –> 00:02:15,900
it’s number four in the UFO
category on the Kindle store.
28
00:02:15,900 –> 00:02:20,400
Number six, in the media studies
category on the Kindle store and
29
00:02:20,400 –> 00:02:24,500
number four in the occult UFOs
section overall.
30
00:02:24,600 –> 00:02:27,700
All on Amazon, not too shabby
for a book.
31
00:02:27,700 –> 00:02:30,400
That is more than 30 years old.
I would argue.
32
00:02:30,500 –> 00:02:34,500
As I mentioned on last week’s
bonus episode.
33
00:02:34,600 –> 00:02:38,500
This was the first Conspiracy
Theory Book I ever read.
34
00:02:38,500 –> 00:02:40,900
It’s the first Conspiracy Theory
Book.
35
00:02:40,900 –> 00:02:44,600
A lot of people ever read.
It’s a book that first gained
36
00:02:44,600 –> 00:02:47,500
popularity among the prison
population.
37
00:02:47,500 –> 00:02:51,400
Especially in New York.
I wasn’t in a New York state
38
00:02:51,400 –> 00:02:54,500
prison in the early 90s.
So I won’t claim.
39
00:02:54,700 –> 00:02:58,000
That I learned about it that
way, but I was listening to a
40
00:02:58,000 –> 00:03:02,700
ton of rap music in the mid 90s
and that was a Surefire way to
41
00:03:02,700 –> 00:03:06,400
get yourself exposed to Behold a
Pale Horse and the New World
42
00:03:06,400 –> 00:03:09,200
Order conspiracy theory.
That’s a big one.
43
00:03:09,500 –> 00:03:14,400
It doesn’t necessarily start
with this book, but Behold a
44
00:03:14,408 –> 00:03:19,700
pale horse is definitely the
Beatles on Ed Sullivan moment
45
00:03:19,700 –> 00:03:22,000
for the New World Order
conspiracy.
46
00:03:22,000 –> 00:03:26,200
That’s the point where people
really Started paying attention
47
00:03:26,300 –> 00:03:30,600
and worrying and talking about
how worried they were about it.
48
00:03:30,600 –> 00:03:36,300
A lot of the conspiracy theories
that carry on to this day either
49
00:03:36,300 –> 00:03:41,600
got their start from Behold a
pale horse or were revived by
50
00:03:41,600 –> 00:03:44,500
Behold a Pale Horse.
There’s some stuff in this book
51
00:03:44,500 –> 00:03:49,000
that has been around so long it
was discredited by the time.
52
00:03:49,000 –> 00:03:53,200
This book came out to the point
that some of the things in here
53
00:03:53,200 –> 00:03:57,200
were almost completely Gotten
and then Along Came Behold a
54
00:03:57,200 –> 00:04:00,400
Pale Horse to bring them roaring
back into the public
55
00:04:00,400 –> 00:04:02,600
Consciousness.
Thanks a lot Bill Cooper.
56
00:04:02,700 –> 00:04:04,800
So that’s what we’re focusing on
this week.
57
00:04:04,800 –> 00:04:09,300
Again, the specific theories in
the book, Behold a Pale Horse.
58
00:04:09,400 –> 00:04:12,400
Again, if you want to know more
about the guy who wrote this
59
00:04:12,400 –> 00:04:16,200
book, who is absolutely a
character whose name again is
60
00:04:16,200 –> 00:04:18,200
Milton.
William Cooper, I just call him
61
00:04:18,200 –> 00:04:20,200
Bill.
Most people just call him bill.
62
00:04:20,300 –> 00:04:23,600
But for more background on him,
you can either listen to last
63
00:04:23,600 –> 00:04:26,200
week’s bonus.
I sewed, if you haven’t already
64
00:04:26,200 –> 00:04:30,800
or go read the book Pale Horse
Rider by Marc Jacobson, which is
65
00:04:30,800 –> 00:04:36,400
a 2018 book, that profiled
Milton, William Cooper, and it
66
00:04:36,400 –> 00:04:41,100
digs pretty deep into not only
his background but also his
67
00:04:41,100 –> 00:04:43,500
life.
After Behold a Pale Horse, it’s
68
00:04:43,508 –> 00:04:47,200
an interesting figure but as for
us right now let’s get into the
69
00:04:47,200 –> 00:04:50,100
theories in this book again.
This is going to be a two-part
70
00:04:50,100 –> 00:04:54,000
episode.
This is a 600 plus page book,
71
00:04:54,100 –> 00:04:56,400
you don’t?
be talking about all of it at
72
00:04:56,400 –> 00:05:00,600
once, not without someone else
here, to do the cut em ups in
73
00:05:00,600 –> 00:05:04,400
the Yuk Yuk’s, you know, and one
of the first things you have to
74
00:05:04,400 –> 00:05:08,800
understand about Behold a pale
horse is that while it does
75
00:05:08,800 –> 00:05:14,200
again clock in at a lengthy 600
plus Pages only about half of it
76
00:05:14,300 –> 00:05:18,300
is original writing by Bill
Cooper if that the rest is just
77
00:05:18,300 –> 00:05:23,100
documents and reports and files
that Cooper thinks prove his
78
00:05:23,100 –> 00:05:26,800
point presented in Their
entirety in some cases and
79
00:05:26,800 –> 00:05:29,700
that’s especially true in the
first chapter of this book,
80
00:05:29,800 –> 00:05:34,200
which is a stone-cold classic.
It’s called silent weapons for
81
00:05:34,200 –> 00:05:37,400
quiet Wars.
That sure is a cool name.
82
00:05:37,400 –> 00:05:39,900
So cool, that Wu-Tang affiliate
killer.
83
00:05:39,900 –> 00:05:42,700
Army named an entire album after
it.
84
00:05:42,700 –> 00:05:45,200
This is for all intents and
purposes.
85
00:05:45,400 –> 00:05:48,900
A lot of people’s introduction
to the concept of the
86
00:05:48,900 –> 00:05:51,600
Illuminati.
That happens in this chapter of
87
00:05:51,600 –> 00:05:58,000
this book aside from an We’re
Bill Cooper says that the copy
88
00:05:58,000 –> 00:06:00,500
of the document.
He shares in this chapter was
89
00:06:00,500 –> 00:06:04,000
found in an IBM.
Copier, that was purchased at a
90
00:06:04,008 –> 00:06:08,300
surplus sale in 1986 and a few
notes scattered here and there
91
00:06:08,300 –> 00:06:12,100
which mostly amount to Cooper
confirming that he agrees with
92
00:06:12,100 –> 00:06:16,100
what you are reading this entire
chapter is just a document
93
00:06:16,100 –> 00:06:18,400
called silent weapons for quiet
Wars.
94
00:06:18,500 –> 00:06:22,200
That was not written by Bill
Cooper but according to him and
95
00:06:22,200 –> 00:06:24,400
according to the document both
what it is.
96
00:06:24,500 –> 00:06:30,200
Is is a formal declaration of
war by the Illuminati on the
97
00:06:30,200 –> 00:06:34,500
citizens of the United States.
More specifically, Cooper says
98
00:06:34,500 –> 00:06:39,300
silent weapons for quiet Wars is
the official Doctrine adopted by
99
00:06:39,300 –> 00:06:42,700
the policy Committee of the
Bilderberg Group during its
100
00:06:42,700 –> 00:06:45,900
first meeting in 1954.
I know I haven’t mentioned it
101
00:06:45,900 –> 00:06:50,000
yet but Cooper’s version of the
Illuminati was essentially born
102
00:06:50,100 –> 00:06:53,800
in 1954.
That’s when all of the secret
103
00:06:53,800 –> 00:06:56,400
societies.
Of the world that had been
104
00:06:56,400 –> 00:07:01,000
jockeying for position in the
race to God world events, in
105
00:07:01,000 –> 00:07:05,100
their favor, decided to team up
under one umbrella called the
106
00:07:05,100 –> 00:07:09,200
Bilderberg Group and according
to Bill Cooper, the Bilderberg
107
00:07:09,200 –> 00:07:14,000
Group is the secret government
that has been ruling us all ever
108
00:07:14,000 –> 00:07:18,200
since behind-the-scenes.
Fun fact, as mentioned on this
109
00:07:18,200 –> 00:07:21,100
week’s episode of unpopular
opinion, not only is the
110
00:07:21,100 –> 00:07:24,400
Bilderberg Group still powering
on, they are back to work.
111
00:07:24,500 –> 00:07:27,900
Working in the office covid.
Shut down their annual meeting
112
00:07:27,900 –> 00:07:30,300
the last two years, which is
weird.
113
00:07:30,400 –> 00:07:33,200
You’d think they’d know how to
work around covid seeing as how
114
00:07:33,200 –> 00:07:35,600
they invented it.
But no, it got them too.
115
00:07:35,600 –> 00:07:39,200
But no worries though.
Because the Bilderberg Group is
116
00:07:39,200 –> 00:07:43,000
back in 2020, to their meeting
is happening again.
117
00:07:43,300 –> 00:07:46,300
And listen, I’m not for one
single second.
118
00:07:46,300 –> 00:07:50,200
Going to pretend, the Bilderberg
Group isn’t a huge cause for
119
00:07:50,200 –> 00:07:53,500
concern, it really is heads of
state.
120
00:07:53,500 –> 00:07:56,800
Heads of Corporations.
Relations and the American and
121
00:07:56,800 –> 00:08:01,200
British intelligence communities
coming together once a year to
122
00:08:01,200 –> 00:08:04,800
decide how life is going to go
for the rest of us that year.
123
00:08:04,800 –> 00:08:08,200
And when you add to that the
fact that the proceedings are so
124
00:08:08,200 –> 00:08:12,200
secretive, most journalists have
given up trying to cover it in
125
00:08:12,200 –> 00:08:16,100
any meaningful way and that this
year’s meeting is headed up by
126
00:08:16,100 –> 00:08:20,400
the current head of the CIA.
This group probably is indeed
127
00:08:20,500 –> 00:08:24,300
the closest thing we have to an
Illuminati operating.
128
00:08:24,500 –> 00:08:26,900
In this world but also that’s
kind of how you know the
129
00:08:26,900 –> 00:08:30,700
Illuminati doesn’t exist.
And if it does Jay-Z for sure
130
00:08:30,700 –> 00:08:33,400
isn’t in it.
Jay-Z is Rich and Powerful but
131
00:08:33,400 –> 00:08:36,900
he’s not attend the Bilderberg
Group meetings, rich and
132
00:08:36,900 –> 00:08:39,299
powerful and we know that
because the Bilderberg Group
133
00:08:39,299 –> 00:08:42,400
isn’t a secret, they operate in
secret and that’s concerning.
134
00:08:42,500 –> 00:08:45,000
But also we do at least know who
they are.
135
00:08:45,000 –> 00:08:48,400
You can look up lists of people
who’ve attended Bilderberg Group
136
00:08:48,400 –> 00:08:52,200
meetings and damn if Beyonce
hasn’t been there, even once
137
00:08:52,300 –> 00:08:56,900
still all that said I don’t Us
the Bilderberg Group further
138
00:08:56,900 –> 00:09:00,200
than I can throw them
individually or as a group.
139
00:09:00,300 –> 00:09:04,500
I acknowledge that they are most
likely not good for the world
140
00:09:04,500 –> 00:09:08,400
but that doesn’t mean silent
weapons for quiet Wars is an
141
00:09:08,400 –> 00:09:12,000
actual declaration of war by the
Bilderberg Group against
142
00:09:12,000 –> 00:09:14,800
American citizens.
In fact, for the longest time
143
00:09:14,800 –> 00:09:19,300
people assume Bill Cooper, just
wrote it and didn’t admit to it.
144
00:09:19,300 –> 00:09:22,400
Part of that has to do with the
fact that, if you read it, you
145
00:09:22,400 –> 00:09:24,400
are likely to be struck with the
overwhelming.
146
00:09:24,500 –> 00:09:28,700
Whelming sense that this was not
written by the representative of
147
00:09:28,700 –> 00:09:31,800
a Suave secret government in the
1950s.
148
00:09:31,900 –> 00:09:35,900
No, it reads like the rantings
of a lunatic and that is not at
149
00:09:35,900 –> 00:09:40,200
all helped by the fact that Bill
Cooper in Behold a Pale Horse,
150
00:09:40,200 –> 00:09:45,700
chose to randomly put words of
this text in all caps with no
151
00:09:45,700 –> 00:09:50,200
Rhyme or Reason to it at all.
And here’s a confusing detail
152
00:09:50,400 –> 00:09:54,600
that should give you some pause
if you are a True Believer In
153
00:09:54,600 –> 00:09:57,400
the silent weapons for quiet
Wars text.
154
00:09:57,400 –> 00:10:01,000
If you are one of those people
who read this and thought.
155
00:10:01,000 –> 00:10:03,700
Yep that’s what’s happening.
This explains it all.
156
00:10:03,800 –> 00:10:08,200
Consider this on last week’s.
Bonus episode about Bill Cooper.
157
00:10:08,200 –> 00:10:12,000
I mentioned that a lot of what’s
in this book started with him.
158
00:10:12,000 –> 00:10:16,900
Allegedly, seeing a treasure
Trove of secret documents in the
159
00:10:16,900 –> 00:10:20,300
office of his Superior when he
was in the Navy, back in the
160
00:10:20,300 –> 00:10:25,800
1960s documents that covered all
sorts of Secret knowledge like
161
00:10:25,800 –> 00:10:29,900
what really happened to JFK?
He was shot with a shellfish
162
00:10:29,900 –> 00:10:33,900
toxin pellet by his limo driver,
thanks for asking, but he also
163
00:10:33,900 –> 00:10:37,800
says he saw documents about the
Bilderberg Group in that office
164
00:10:37,900 –> 00:10:41,600
and that his memories of that
were confirmed when this copy of
165
00:10:41,600 –> 00:10:46,000
silent weapons for quiet Wars
was found in an IBM printer in
166
00:10:46,000 –> 00:10:50,800
1986 now according to Bill
Cooper, the Bilderberg Group is
167
00:10:50,800 –> 00:10:54,100
a secret government.
That is, in fact, so secretive
168
00:10:54,500 –> 00:10:58,500
Real government doesn’t know
about it, but also what he’s
169
00:10:58,500 –> 00:11:03,000
saying is that despite the
Bilderberg Group being a secret
170
00:11:03,000 –> 00:11:06,000
government, that is so secret.
The real government doesn’t know
171
00:11:06,000 –> 00:11:08,300
about it.
The real government did somehow
172
00:11:08,300 –> 00:11:11,500
have a bunch of files about that
secret government.
173
00:11:11,500 –> 00:11:14,100
That is so secret.
The regular government doesn’t
174
00:11:14,200 –> 00:11:15,800
know about it.
Well then where the files come
175
00:11:15,800 –> 00:11:18,000
from if the real government
doesn’t know the secret
176
00:11:18,000 –> 00:11:20,900
government exists.
Why did they have Files about
177
00:11:20,900 –> 00:11:24,300
the secret government?
The explanation for that.
178
00:11:24,400 –> 00:11:28,900
Discrepancy, is that this isn’t
a document written by a secret
179
00:11:29,000 –> 00:11:30,700
government.
As mentioned in the Mark
180
00:11:30,700 –> 00:11:34,400
Jacobson book, pale horse rider
in the early 2000s.
181
00:11:34,400 –> 00:11:38,000
In Outlet called, paranoia
magazine started looking into
182
00:11:38,000 –> 00:11:41,400
the origins of this, document
and traced it back to a man
183
00:11:41,400 –> 00:11:45,000
named Hartford Van Dyke.
Who fittingly enough was in
184
00:11:45,000 –> 00:11:49,100
prison on conspiracy charges at
the time, he took credit for
185
00:11:49,100 –> 00:11:51,400
writing the document and fast
forward to.
186
00:11:51,400 –> 00:11:55,600
Now, if you search around
online, you’ll find Alone copies
187
00:11:55,600 –> 00:11:58,100
of silent weapons for quiet
Wars.
188
00:11:58,400 –> 00:12:02,600
That credit Hartford Van Dyke as
the author in his letter to
189
00:12:02,600 –> 00:12:06,200
paranoia magazine, he took issue
with them calling silent weapons
190
00:12:06,200 –> 00:12:10,400
for quiet Wars, a quote paranoid
Manifesto because he said it was
191
00:12:10,400 –> 00:12:13,900
a work of sociopathy instead.
Here’s a quote, it begins as a
192
00:12:13,900 –> 00:12:17,700
logical sociopathic work.
That ends as an emotional
193
00:12:17,700 –> 00:12:21,600
sociopathic work being as it is
about war, the subject matter
194
00:12:21,600 –> 00:12:25,500
had to be sociopathic and quote
and let me Tell you now that
195
00:12:25,500 –> 00:12:29,100
sounds like the words of the
person who actually wrote silent
196
00:12:29,100 –> 00:12:31,300
weapons for quiet Wars in Van
Dyke.
197
00:12:31,300 –> 00:12:36,300
Says the copy that ended up at
that Surplus sale in 1986 is
198
00:12:36,300 –> 00:12:39,100
probably one.
He gave to a hitchhiker that he
199
00:12:39,100 –> 00:12:43,400
picked up in the 1980s who
turned out to be a soldier who
200
00:12:43,400 –> 00:12:46,200
asked to be dropped at a
military base near where that
201
00:12:46,200 –> 00:12:48,300
Surplus sale eventually
happened.
202
00:12:48,400 –> 00:12:51,700
So sorry, True.
Believers, silent weapons for
203
00:12:51,700 –> 00:12:56,100
quiet Wars was almost certainly
not Written by the Bilderberg
204
00:12:56,100 –> 00:12:58,700
Group, but on the bright side,
they still probably rule the
205
00:12:58,700 –> 00:13:00,400
world.
I’m not going to take that away
206
00:13:00,400 –> 00:13:02,200
from them.
They just don’t write rambling.
207
00:13:02,200 –> 00:13:04,900
Manifestos about it, who would
they be sending that thing to
208
00:13:04,900 –> 00:13:06,900
anyway?
So many questions.
209
00:13:07,800 –> 00:13:12,400
All right, chapter to secret
societies and the New World
210
00:13:12,400 –> 00:13:14,600
Order.
The second chapter of this book
211
00:13:14,700 –> 00:13:18,700
is probably the one that
contains the highest volume of
212
00:13:18,700 –> 00:13:22,300
original Bill Cooper writing.
It’s basically him running
213
00:13:22,300 –> 00:13:26,300
through the entire history of Of
secret societies.
214
00:13:26,300 –> 00:13:29,100
He says the first one was called
the Brotherhood of the snake.
215
00:13:29,100 –> 00:13:31,300
And here’s the thing, that’s
fucking cool.
216
00:13:31,300 –> 00:13:33,700
That’s a cool name.
The Brotherhood of the snake
217
00:13:33,700 –> 00:13:39,000
worship Lucifer and saw personal
Enlightenment AKA illumination.
218
00:13:39,200 –> 00:13:42,900
Lucifer is the bringer of light,
you see, hence, the name
219
00:13:42,900 –> 00:13:46,300
Illuminati, Cooper, says the
Brotherhood of the snake formed
220
00:13:46,300 –> 00:13:52,000
around 4000 BCE in response to
an enormous Stellar explosion
221
00:13:52,100 –> 00:13:54,200
that filled the night sky with
light.
222
00:13:54,400 –> 00:13:57,800
Eventually, the Brotherhood of
the snake split off into a bunch
223
00:13:57,800 –> 00:14:01,100
of different groups, who all
then reunited under the
224
00:14:01,100 –> 00:14:04,500
Bilderberg Group Banner,
thousands of years later in
225
00:14:04,500 –> 00:14:07,400
1952.
Now, at the point this book was
226
00:14:07,400 –> 00:14:10,000
written Cooper.
Claimed the Bilderberg Group,
227
00:14:10,000 –> 00:14:14,400
consisted of the following
diverse names and faces the
228
00:14:14,400 –> 00:14:20,300
Vatican, the Nazi party, the KKK
the Jews, the Freemasons, the
229
00:14:20,300 –> 00:14:24,200
roshaniya of Afghanistan, the
mithras, the Builder.
230
00:14:24,400 –> 00:14:29,000
H, the Brotherhood, the House of
Wisdom at Cairo, the Communist
231
00:14:29,000 –> 00:14:33,600
Party, the demolay society, the
P2 Lodge of Italy.
232
00:14:33,800 –> 00:14:38,500
The Knights of Malta, the CIA,
the Jason Scholars, the Jason
233
00:14:38,500 –> 00:14:44,200
Society, the Jason group Jason
Mraz the Kabbalah, the Knights
234
00:14:44,200 –> 00:14:48,300
of Columbus, the Columbus, Blue
Jackets, the Jesuits, the
235
00:14:48,300 –> 00:14:52,600
ancient and mystical order of
rosicrucian, the Council on
236
00:14:52,600 –> 00:14:56,900
Foreign Relations, the group
Chapter 3, 22, the Brotherhood
237
00:14:56,900 –> 00:15:01,300
of the Dragon Imagine Dragons,
the rosicrucians the Royal
238
00:15:01,300 –> 00:15:04,600
Institute of international
Affairs, the trilateral
239
00:15:04,600 –> 00:15:09,000
commission, the Russell, trust,
the skullenbones, the scroll and
240
00:15:09,000 –> 00:15:13,200
key Wendy’s, and the black
nobility, and I only made up
241
00:15:13,200 –> 00:15:17,600
like four of those, the rest,
all actually alleged to be part
242
00:15:17,600 –> 00:15:21,200
of the Bilderberg Group by the
author of behold a Pale Horse.
243
00:15:21,300 –> 00:15:24,000
So that part of the chapter is
all interesting.
244
00:15:24,300 –> 00:15:27,600
And informative I suppose but
then it gets into the
245
00:15:27,600 –> 00:15:31,400
predictions for the future and
everything falls apart
246
00:15:31,400 –> 00:15:34,400
specifically.
The prediction that NASA’s
247
00:15:34,400 –> 00:15:39,900
Galileo spacecraft was, in fact,
a thermonuclear device that was
248
00:15:39,900 –> 00:15:43,800
scheduled to detonate inside the
core of Jupiter on the last day
249
00:15:43,800 –> 00:15:49,000
of 1999 and this was going to be
heralded by the people behind
250
00:15:49,000 –> 00:15:52,700
the Bilderberg Group, as the
dawn of a new religion, which
251
00:15:52,700 –> 00:15:55,100
would be announced by president.
Bush.
252
00:15:55,200 –> 00:15:57,700
The first at the Egyptian
pyramids.
253
00:15:57,900 –> 00:16:00,600
Also, global warming is a lie in
the real problem is that we’re
254
00:16:00,600 –> 00:16:04,100
looking down the barrel of a new
Ice Age and blowing up, Jupiter
255
00:16:04,300 –> 00:16:06,600
would heat the planet enough to
prevent that.
256
00:16:06,700 –> 00:16:09,900
Remember when all of that did
not happen on the last day of
257
00:16:09,900 –> 00:16:14,400
1999, none of it not a single
bit, it makes up a lot of other
258
00:16:14,400 –> 00:16:17,700
wild claims in this chapter like
how once a year, the Russians
259
00:16:17,700 –> 00:16:20,700
meet with reps from the
Bilderberg Group to discuss that
260
00:16:20,700 –> 00:16:23,300
Year’s agenda.
In that one year it included
261
00:16:23,300 –> 00:16:27,400
colonizing space Space and that
he is in possession of satellite
262
00:16:27,400 –> 00:16:31,300
images of a secret base, inside
a crater on the moon.
263
00:16:31,400 –> 00:16:33,400
But somehow that picture is not
in this book.
264
00:16:33,400 –> 00:16:36,600
There are pictures in this book.
He very easily could have
265
00:16:36,600 –> 00:16:40,500
inserted a photo of said base
inside a crater on the moon but
266
00:16:40,500 –> 00:16:43,800
he didn’t he didn’t that’s fine.
Why would you you know?
267
00:16:43,800 –> 00:16:47,600
Also he says Russia has to meet
with the Bilderberg Group in
268
00:16:47,700 –> 00:16:52,900
submarines because it’s the only
way they can’t be recorded or
269
00:16:52,900 –> 00:16:57,100
tracked and my Is why would they
care if anyone’s recording or
270
00:16:57,100 –> 00:16:59,100
tracking them?
They are the secret government.
271
00:16:59,100 –> 00:17:01,200
That is ruling.
The entire world who’s going to
272
00:17:01,200 –> 00:17:05,200
undo that some lookie-loo at the
NSA it’s going to overhear their
273
00:17:05,200 –> 00:17:07,400
conversation and bring it all
crumbling down.
274
00:17:07,700 –> 00:17:11,700
I don’t think so seems unlikely
if they are as powerful as Bill
275
00:17:11,700 –> 00:17:15,000
Cooper makes them out to be.
I don’t know that over here in
276
00:17:15,000 –> 00:17:19,700
their talks with Russia would
really do that much to slow down
277
00:17:19,700 –> 00:17:21,800
operations.
But what do I know in this
278
00:17:21,800 –> 00:17:24,000
chapter?
He also gets into all the points
279
00:17:24,000 –> 00:17:27,000
where the The number 13 is
present on the US dollar.
280
00:17:27,000 –> 00:17:31,800
There’s 13 leaves in the olive
branches 13 bars and Stripes, 13
281
00:17:31,800 –> 00:17:35,500
arrows, 13, letters in e,
pluribus unum, on and on, and
282
00:17:35,500 –> 00:17:39,100
on, and people always bring this
up and point to it being a
283
00:17:39,100 –> 00:17:42,600
Freemason thing or an Illuminati
thing because the number 13 is
284
00:17:42,600 –> 00:17:45,700
very important to Freemasons.
But also we do remember there
285
00:17:45,700 –> 00:17:47,400
were thirteen Original Colonies,
right?
286
00:17:47,400 –> 00:17:52,600
That could also be the
foundation that the 13 blocks in
287
00:17:52,600 –> 00:17:55,300
the pyramid.
On the back of the I represent
288
00:17:55,300 –> 00:17:57,400
could be those original 13
colonies.
289
00:17:57,600 –> 00:18:02,500
Maybe anyway Chapter 30 of
initiation of an unidentified
290
00:18:02,500 –> 00:18:05,200
Secret order.
If chapter 2 is an example of
291
00:18:05,200 –> 00:18:09,800
Bill, Cooper actually holding up
his end of the I wrote a book
292
00:18:10,000 –> 00:18:14,700
bargain by, you know writing
then chapter 3 is its polar
293
00:18:14,700 –> 00:18:16,700
opposite.
The chapter again, is called
294
00:18:16,700 –> 00:18:20,000
oath of initiation of an
unidentified Secret order.
295
00:18:20,000 –> 00:18:24,100
Bill Cooper makes it clear that
he does not make any claims as
296
00:18:24,100 –> 00:18:28,300
to Ooh the authenticity of the
oath presented in this chapter,
297
00:18:28,400 –> 00:18:32,000
he says a woman handed it to him
and that it was something her
298
00:18:32,000 –> 00:18:36,300
son had to pledge allegiance to
before joining some unknown
299
00:18:36,600 –> 00:18:39,500
secret society.
But also he got a copy of it
300
00:18:39,500 –> 00:18:43,300
from a doctor, Ron Brown, who
said it came from the
301
00:18:43,300 –> 00:18:46,800
Congressional Record of the
House of Representatives, dated
302
00:18:46,800 –> 00:18:52,100
February 15th 1913, where it was
entered as purported to be from
303
00:18:52,100 –> 00:18:54,200
the Knights of Columbus but then
Bill Cooper.
304
00:18:54,300 –> 00:18:57,000
Is that might not be right,
because the content of this
305
00:18:57,000 –> 00:18:59,700
oath, makes it seem like, it
probably comes from either the
306
00:18:59,700 –> 00:19:03,800
Society of Jesus, aka the
Jesuits or the Knights of Malta
307
00:19:03,800 –> 00:19:06,300
whatever, the case he says, he
just included it.
308
00:19:06,300 –> 00:19:10,800
So you the reader knows beyond a
shadow of a doubt that blood
309
00:19:10,800 –> 00:19:15,300
Oaths to secret societies like
this, do indeed exist.
310
00:19:15,300 –> 00:19:19,500
Even if he can’t even prove the
one he’s using as an example is
311
00:19:19,500 –> 00:19:23,200
real, or who it belongs to this
chapter should have been
312
00:19:23,300 –> 00:19:25,200
jettisoned.
From the book.
313
00:19:25,400 –> 00:19:28,700
It should have been cut out and
thrown into the ocean.
314
00:19:28,700 –> 00:19:30,800
It is nonsense.
The oath.
315
00:19:30,800 –> 00:19:34,000
If you want to check out the
book and read, it is pretty
316
00:19:34,000 –> 00:19:37,100
crazy for one thing.
It says, the person taking this
317
00:19:37,100 –> 00:19:40,500
oath is bound to it even when
they are a cadaver which yeah,
318
00:19:40,500 –> 00:19:44,600
that seems easy to enforce but
also there’s nothing indicating
319
00:19:44,600 –> 00:19:47,100
where it came from.
If it’s real.
320
00:19:47,100 –> 00:19:51,500
If any group actually makes
anyone pledge this oath or
321
00:19:51,500 –> 00:19:56,000
someone just wrote this thing up
for the funds, No clue, no clue.
322
00:19:56,100 –> 00:20:00,400
And at the end of that chapter,
he gets off into a thing that
323
00:20:00,600 –> 00:20:03,900
I’ve expressed my frustration
about on this podcast.
324
00:20:03,900 –> 00:20:06,900
Many times I’m referring to that
thing where a conspiracy
325
00:20:06,900 –> 00:20:10,400
theorist type will in a book or
video or whatever.
326
00:20:10,400 –> 00:20:13,100
Say, something along the lines
of I’m just presenting the
327
00:20:13,100 –> 00:20:15,400
evidence, you decide for
yourself.
328
00:20:15,500 –> 00:20:18,900
In this case, the specific line
he gives in regards to that oath
329
00:20:18,900 –> 00:20:21,800
document is you must be the
ultimate judge of its
330
00:20:21,800 –> 00:20:24,100
authenticity.
The truth will win.
331
00:20:24,200 –> 00:20:27,800
In and, you know what he’s
wrong, it’s actually his job to
332
00:20:27,800 –> 00:20:31,000
determine the authenticity of
something like that and it’s a
333
00:20:31,000 –> 00:20:33,500
job.
He neglects pretty badly in that
334
00:20:33,500 –> 00:20:35,800
chapter.
And you see that in even more
335
00:20:35,800 –> 00:20:39,600
dramatic fashion in the next
chapter, which is called secret
336
00:20:39,600 –> 00:20:44,100
treaty of Verona in parentheses
precedent and positive proof of
337
00:20:44,100 –> 00:20:47,500
conspiracy not as a wild claim.
He is saying that what you’re
338
00:20:47,500 –> 00:20:52,000
going to read in this chapter is
absolute proof that a conspiracy
339
00:20:52,000 –> 00:20:54,900
of the type.
He’s referring to actually In
340
00:20:54,900 –> 00:20:58,000
this case, it’s more
Congressional Record stuff this
341
00:20:58,000 –> 00:21:02,900
time from February 1916 and that
Congressional Record cites a
342
00:21:02,908 –> 00:21:06,600
document that was quoted and
entered into the Congressional
343
00:21:06,600 –> 00:21:08,700
Record.
But that originally appeared in
344
00:21:08,700 –> 00:21:12,600
a publication called the
American diplomatic code and
345
00:21:12,600 –> 00:21:15,700
this document records the Senate
conversation about something
346
00:21:15,700 –> 00:21:19,300
called the secret treaty of
Verona, which is an alleged
347
00:21:19,300 –> 00:21:24,100
treaty agreed to in 1822 that
allowed the deposed.
348
00:21:24,200 –> 00:21:27,900
During Pian monarchies to
continue ruling behind the
349
00:21:27,900 –> 00:21:31,700
scenes, but with elected
officials and elections still
350
00:21:31,700 –> 00:21:35,200
happening to appease the public
and make them think they
351
00:21:35,200 –> 00:21:37,400
actually have some say in
things.
352
00:21:37,400 –> 00:21:40,800
The theory is called the black
nobility, which again great
353
00:21:40,800 –> 00:21:43,000
name.
And that is exactly what Bill
354
00:21:43,000 –> 00:21:47,800
Cooper is describing in this
book is a secret group of
355
00:21:47,800 –> 00:21:52,500
leaders who actually run things,
while the people we vote for
356
00:21:52,700 –> 00:21:56,200
just kind of act as It’s to
placate us and make sure we
357
00:21:56,200 –> 00:22:01,000
don’t Revolt over having no more
say in anything, that happens in
358
00:22:01,000 –> 00:22:04,800
the world ever again.
Unfortunately, this document
359
00:22:04,800 –> 00:22:09,900
that Bill Cooper says, is proof
positive of a conspiracy is
360
00:22:09,900 –> 00:22:14,800
actually a well-known forgery
and it took me about a minute of
361
00:22:14,800 –> 00:22:18,300
research to find that out and I
know what you’re thinking.
362
00:22:18,700 –> 00:22:21,300
Sure.
But Adam you have the internet
363
00:22:21,500 –> 00:22:23,700
and Bill Cooper did not well for
starters.
364
00:22:23,700 –> 00:22:28,000
Yes, he Did he died in 2001?
Sure the internet wasn’t that
365
00:22:28,000 –> 00:22:31,900
robust in 1991 when this book
came out but he had a lot of
366
00:22:31,900 –> 00:22:35,800
Internet years following that
even if it still wasn’t quite
367
00:22:35,800 –> 00:22:40,300
the research tool, it is now.
But also regardless of that the
368
00:22:40,300 –> 00:22:44,500
source I found that calls out
the secret treaty of Verona as a
369
00:22:44,500 –> 00:22:50,300
forgery is from 1935 and the
fact that it’s damn near 90
370
00:22:50,300 –> 00:22:53,100
years old.
But also on the internet should
371
00:22:53,100 –> 00:22:55,600
tell you.
It’s not from Obscure and hard
372
00:22:55,600 –> 00:22:58,100
to find publication.
It’s an article called the
373
00:22:58,100 –> 00:23:01,800
secret treaty of Verona a
newspaper forgery from the
374
00:23:01,800 –> 00:23:06,400
September 1935 edition of the
Journal of modern history.
375
00:23:06,500 –> 00:23:09,700
It’s written by a guy named TR
Schellenberg who I’ve never
376
00:23:09,700 –> 00:23:13,200
heard of, but is described as
having ideas that are quote,
377
00:23:13,200 –> 00:23:16,700
part of the foundation for
archival theory and practice in
378
00:23:16,700 –> 00:23:21,500
the United States and quote,
there is absolutely zero chance
379
00:23:21,600 –> 00:23:24,100
Bill Cooper did not see this
article.
380
00:23:24,200 –> 00:23:27,500
At some point prior to
publishing this book in which
381
00:23:27,500 –> 00:23:30,500
case you should have lots of
questions about his motivation
382
00:23:30,600 –> 00:23:33,500
for still writing this section
the way he did.
383
00:23:33,600 –> 00:23:37,800
Because reminder, he subtitled
this chapter precedent and proof
384
00:23:37,800 –> 00:23:41,200
positive of conspiracy.
If he didn’t see this article at
385
00:23:41,200 –> 00:23:43,900
any point, while researching
this chapter, you should have
386
00:23:43,900 –> 00:23:45,800
lots of questions about his
research skills.
387
00:23:45,900 –> 00:23:49,000
If nothing else, whatever the
case I’ll link to the TR
388
00:23:49,000 –> 00:23:51,400
Schoenberg article.
Just a heads up, you’ll have to
389
00:23:51,400 –> 00:23:54,000
pay $20 to do your own research
with it.
390
00:23:54,200 –> 00:23:56,100
Link to it.
I will tell you that he goes
391
00:23:56,100 –> 00:24:00,800
pretty hard in the paint siding.
All sorts of valid reasons why
392
00:24:00,800 –> 00:24:03,500
the secret treaty of Verona is
bullshit.
393
00:24:03,600 –> 00:24:06,500
With my favorite being this one
that I’ll quote verbatim here
394
00:24:06,500 –> 00:24:10,400
goes the sixth article contained
in anachronistic reference to
395
00:24:10,400 –> 00:24:14,300
the war with Spain, which had
not yet begun at the supposed
396
00:24:14,300 –> 00:24:17,300
time of the signature of the
treaty and quote.
397
00:24:17,300 –> 00:24:19,500
Whoops.
The pretty glaring, error
398
00:24:19,500 –> 00:24:22,000
referencing a war that had not
yet happened.
399
00:24:22,100 –> 00:24:25,200
He also mentions that the end of
the article Urkel that lots of
400
00:24:25,200 –> 00:24:28,800
historians used to reference the
secret treaty of Verona as being
401
00:24:28,800 –> 00:24:31,000
the impetus for the Monroe
Doctrine.
402
00:24:31,000 –> 00:24:35,000
But that most people realize now
that is incorrect and again,
403
00:24:35,000 –> 00:24:40,600
now, meaning 1935.
So he wasn’t the only person
404
00:24:40,600 –> 00:24:44,000
even way back then.
Who realized the secret treaty
405
00:24:44,000 –> 00:24:46,800
of Verona was a forgery.
I’ll also link you to an
406
00:24:46,800 –> 00:24:50,500
academic journal from 1971, that
mentions, the secret treaty of
407
00:24:50,500 –> 00:24:54,000
Verona being a fabrication
apparently bill.
408
00:24:54,200 –> 00:24:58,400
Per the granddaddy of the do.
Your own research movement was
409
00:24:58,400 –> 00:25:00,600
terrible at doing his own
research.
410
00:25:00,600 –> 00:25:04,200
Either that or he’s just lying.
And I’m leaning toward that
411
00:25:04,200 –> 00:25:06,700
explanation.
Personally, something that came
412
00:25:06,700 –> 00:25:09,300
up on last week’s bonus episode
was that?
413
00:25:09,300 –> 00:25:12,200
Behold a Pale Horse.
First gained popularity, among
414
00:25:12,200 –> 00:25:15,600
the New York prison population
and that happened at the exact
415
00:25:15,600 –> 00:25:18,000
same time.
The crack epidemic, hit its peak
416
00:25:18,000 –> 00:25:21,700
in New York, there were more
than 5,000 murders in New York
417
00:25:21,700 –> 00:25:24,500
between 1990 and 1991.
E 1.
418
00:25:24,500 –> 00:25:29,000
And at that exact moment in ways
that no one can explain to this
419
00:25:29,000 –> 00:25:32,000
day, this book just starts
making the rounds in New York
420
00:25:32,000 –> 00:25:34,100
prisons.
What makes me uneasy about.
421
00:25:34,100 –> 00:25:37,500
That is something I haven’t
mentioned yet about this book
422
00:25:37,500 –> 00:25:40,500
which is that at several stops
along the way.
423
00:25:40,500 –> 00:25:44,700
Bill Cooper implies or straight
out says that there is nothing
424
00:25:44,700 –> 00:25:48,400
that can be done to stop.
What he claims is happening in
425
00:25:48,400 –> 00:25:50,300
this book?
I don’t think this book was
426
00:25:50,300 –> 00:25:53,200
trying to disseminate
information, I think it was
427
00:25:53,200 –> 00:25:55,800
trying to extinguish.
I wish hope something about
428
00:25:55,800 –> 00:25:59,800
Reviving, the secret treaty of
Verona decades after it had been
429
00:25:59,800 –> 00:26:03,600
discredited and citing it as
proof of why your claims are
430
00:26:03,600 –> 00:26:06,800
real just makes me not trust
Bill Cooper even if he did
431
00:26:06,800 –> 00:26:10,100
eventually get murdered by the
government and this chapter
432
00:26:10,100 –> 00:26:13,300
isn’t the last time that he
would revive a previously
433
00:26:13,300 –> 00:26:16,400
discredited and highly
controversial document in this
434
00:26:16,400 –> 00:26:21,400
book more on that later.
Chapter 5, goodbye USA.
435
00:26:21,600 –> 00:26:24,400
Hello new world order.
This is a very confusing fusing
436
00:26:24,400 –> 00:26:26,300
chapter.
It starts with Bill Cooper
437
00:26:26,300 –> 00:26:29,200
explaining how the Constitution
Works, literally.
438
00:26:29,200 –> 00:26:32,800
And then he argues that things
like executive orders which used
439
00:26:32,800 –> 00:26:35,800
to be called National Security.
Directives have allowed the
440
00:26:35,800 –> 00:26:39,700
executive branch to usurp the
Constitution because executive
441
00:26:39,700 –> 00:26:43,500
orders amount to laws in the
executive branch isn’t supposed
442
00:26:43,500 –> 00:26:45,100
to make laws.
And you know what?
443
00:26:45,100 –> 00:26:48,100
I reckon that’s true but it also
seems like a completely
444
00:26:48,100 –> 00:26:52,000
different issue than a secret
government is controlling the
445
00:26:52,000 –> 00:26:56,700
world because again in Scenario.
It’s the for real government
446
00:26:56,700 –> 00:26:59,400
doing all the bad, not the
secret government but they’re
447
00:26:59,400 –> 00:27:02,100
apparently doing it to achieve
the goals of the secret
448
00:27:02,100 –> 00:27:03,900
government.
That the real government doesn’t
449
00:27:03,900 –> 00:27:07,300
even know about.
Of course, FEMA comes up in this
450
00:27:07,300 –> 00:27:10,200
section, Cooper’s argument, is
that at any moment?
451
00:27:10,200 –> 00:27:14,700
Now, as a result of some unnamed
National Emergency FEMA will
452
00:27:14,700 –> 00:27:18,200
show up and wrestle control away
from local and state governments
453
00:27:18,200 –> 00:27:20,300
and that they’ll only be able to
do that.
454
00:27:20,500 –> 00:27:24,000
If the Constitution is suspended
in martial, law is declared from
455
00:27:24,100 –> 00:27:25,700
There.
He asserts that once the
456
00:27:25,700 –> 00:27:29,100
Constitution has been suspended
and FEMA takes control, our
457
00:27:29,100 –> 00:27:32,200
secret government will announce
their Ascension to our real
458
00:27:32,200 –> 00:27:34,900
government in that the new
government will be based in
459
00:27:34,900 –> 00:27:38,300
Bluemont Virginia.
At the now relatively well-known
460
00:27:38,400 –> 00:27:42,300
Mount weather facility.
In both cases, he’s employing a
461
00:27:42,300 –> 00:27:46,700
classic conspiracy theory tactic
here by taken a thing that
462
00:27:46,700 –> 00:27:51,500
already does and should exist
and acting like its existence in
463
00:27:51,500 –> 00:27:56,300
and of itself is controversial.
FEMA for example, reflect on
464
00:27:56,300 –> 00:27:58,800
your true crime documentaries
for a moment.
465
00:27:58,800 –> 00:28:03,500
What happens when say a massive
crime happens in a small town,
466
00:28:03,700 –> 00:28:07,100
where local officials aren’t
really equipped to handle it
467
00:28:07,100 –> 00:28:09,000
properly.
Usually the FBI is going to
468
00:28:09,000 –> 00:28:12,900
swoop in and either outright
take over the investigation or
469
00:28:12,900 –> 00:28:15,300
at least help out in whatever
way they can.
470
00:28:15,400 –> 00:28:17,900
Why in the hell would something
like that?
471
00:28:17,900 –> 00:28:23,400
Not exist for natural disasters.
If you live in a town of 2,500
472
00:28:23,400 –> 00:28:25,900
that is Tected.
Mostly by a volunteer fire
473
00:28:25,900 –> 00:28:28,100
department.
Who are you going to call if
474
00:28:28,100 –> 00:28:32,100
something happens that’s beyond
their ability to handle Trump,
475
00:28:32,100 –> 00:28:35,500
you can call Trump no, FEMA
shows up in those instances, at
476
00:28:35,500 –> 00:28:37,200
least better.
Hope they do is dependent on
477
00:28:37,200 –> 00:28:39,700
where you live in the country.
They might not my right New
478
00:28:39,700 –> 00:28:42,900
Orleans as for Mount weather,
it’s where the government goes.
479
00:28:42,900 –> 00:28:45,500
If the government has to go
somewhere, politicians were
480
00:28:45,500 –> 00:28:48,900
taken there by helicopter, on
911, again, where do you want
481
00:28:48,900 –> 00:28:52,400
them to go Starbucks?
Buffalo Wild Wings, I’m sure
482
00:28:52,400 –> 00:28:56,200
they’d prefer it that FEMA.
Mount weather, both exist makes
483
00:28:56,200 –> 00:28:59,000
perfect sense.
But Behold a Pale Horse
484
00:28:59,000 –> 00:29:03,300
presents, their existence as
proof of a secret government
485
00:29:03,300 –> 00:29:05,700
conspiracy and I don’t believe
it.
486
00:29:05,800 –> 00:29:08,800
You’re real government is evil
enough and there are things you
487
00:29:08,800 –> 00:29:12,000
can do to fight them anyway.
Get a load of the title of
488
00:29:12,000 –> 00:29:13,600
chapter 6.
You ready?
489
00:29:13,800 –> 00:29:19,000
Chapter 6, HR, 4079 in FEMA.
A tool that can be used to
490
00:29:19,008 –> 00:29:22,500
establish the police state
Patriots and tax protesters.
491
00:29:22,500 –> 00:29:26,100
You must never be found at home.
On any holiday, your life
492
00:29:26,100 –> 00:29:30,000
depends on how well you can obey
that rule no shit.
493
00:29:30,000 –> 00:29:33,400
That seems to be the entire
title of chapter 6.
494
00:29:33,400 –> 00:29:36,900
Like Fiona Apple, wrote it,
either that or Bill Cooper is
495
00:29:36,900 –> 00:29:40,400
really bad at making it clear
where chapter titles end and
496
00:29:40,400 –> 00:29:43,900
where the actual chapter begins.
I’ll accept either answer this
497
00:29:43,900 –> 00:29:48,700
chapter of the book is where the
idea that someday FEMA is going
498
00:29:48,700 –> 00:29:52,700
to round up true Patriots and
send them off to one of many
499
00:29:52,700 –> 00:29:55,500
concentration camps.
In Italy located around the
500
00:29:55,500 –> 00:29:57,300
country.
This is where that idea gained
501
00:29:57,300 –> 00:29:59,600
popularity.
But once again, that doesn’t
502
00:29:59,600 –> 00:30:02,600
mean this is where the idea
started in the book.
503
00:30:02,600 –> 00:30:06,300
Bill Cooper reprints
word-for-word a pamphlet written
504
00:30:06,300 –> 00:30:08,800
by a guy named dr.
William R Pabst called
505
00:30:08,800 –> 00:30:13,300
concentration camp plan for u.s.
Citizens and that pamphlet is
506
00:30:13,300 –> 00:30:16,900
the Genesis of the FEMA,
concentration camp Theory but it
507
00:30:16,900 –> 00:30:20,600
took Bill Cooper to make this
Theory a talking point among the
508
00:30:20,600 –> 00:30:24,200
mainstream right wing, which is
a phrase I just made up but You
509
00:30:24,200 –> 00:30:26,100
know what I mean?
For lack of a better way to put
510
00:30:26,100 –> 00:30:27,600
it.
I think this book was supposed
511
00:30:27,600 –> 00:30:30,500
to start something, it shows up
on the scene, right?
512
00:30:30,500 –> 00:30:34,000
As black people are being
disproportionately incarcerated
513
00:30:34,100 –> 00:30:37,400
at way, higher levels than
usual, white nationalists, who
514
00:30:37,400 –> 00:30:39,800
weren’t actually white
nationalists, are having their
515
00:30:39,800 –> 00:30:42,900
compounds burn to the ground and
George h.w.
516
00:30:42,900 –> 00:30:45,100
Bush is going in front of the
world.
517
00:30:45,100 –> 00:30:47,900
And saying, the new world order
has arrived, I don’t think Bill
518
00:30:47,900 –> 00:30:51,000
Cooper’s book was meant to fight
any of that.
519
00:30:51,100 –> 00:30:53,900
I think it was part of that so
much of this book.
520
00:30:54,100 –> 00:30:58,300
Just discredited documents
presented as if they haven’t
521
00:30:58,300 –> 00:31:02,500
been discredited and then that
supplemented with assurances.
522
00:31:02,500 –> 00:31:05,900
That there is nothing you can do
to stop any of this short of
523
00:31:05,900 –> 00:31:08,700
starting a civil war.
He says that right up top in
524
00:31:08,700 –> 00:31:10,500
this book.
Nothing will stop what he’s
525
00:31:10,500 –> 00:31:13,700
talking about short of a Civil
War and since we’re talking
526
00:31:13,700 –> 00:31:16,700
about a book that’s thrown out
wild conspiracy theories, I’ll
527
00:31:16,700 –> 00:31:19,800
do that myself and say this book
feels like it was meant to
528
00:31:19,800 –> 00:31:23,000
incite a new enemy.
The United States could fight
529
00:31:23,100 –> 00:31:25,500
with the Cold War.
Coming to an end whether that
530
00:31:25,500 –> 00:31:28,700
worked or not is topic for a
whole other episode I guess.
531
00:31:28,700 –> 00:31:30,800
But what’s important to get
across right now?
532
00:31:30,800 –> 00:31:33,900
At least for me personally is
that I used to trust this book
533
00:31:33,900 –> 00:31:36,200
and I don’t trust this book
anymore.
534
00:31:36,300 –> 00:31:39,400
Also what bothers me about every
FEMA conspiracy?
535
00:31:39,400 –> 00:31:42,100
Is this question?
Why would the government need a
536
00:31:42,100 –> 00:31:45,100
second secret government to
impose martial.
537
00:31:45,100 –> 00:31:48,700
Law is FEMA working with the
secret government because
538
00:31:48,700 –> 00:31:51,100
they’re definitely working with
the real government.
539
00:31:51,100 –> 00:31:53,600
So again, does the real
government know about the secret
540
00:31:53,600 –> 00:31:54,600
government.
Or not.
541
00:31:54,600 –> 00:31:57,700
And if they do, doesn’t that
kind of just make them all one
542
00:31:57,700 –> 00:32:01,600
big American government?
That is the real problem so many
543
00:32:01,600 –> 00:32:03,800
questions.
Speaking of that, let’s talk
544
00:32:03,800 –> 00:32:09,100
about chapter 7, anti-drug Abuse
Act of 1988 parentheses
545
00:32:09,100 –> 00:32:12,200
preparation for the police state
in analysis.
546
00:32:12,300 –> 00:32:15,600
This chapter is all about how
the anti-drug Abuse Act of 1988
547
00:32:15,600 –> 00:32:18,800
was a very bad thing and I agree
with that, you’ll get no
548
00:32:18,800 –> 00:32:21,700
argument from me.
What I take issue with is the
549
00:32:21,700 –> 00:32:25,000
things Bill Cooper takes issue
with Case in point, here’s a
550
00:32:25,008 –> 00:32:28,400
quote from Behold a Pale Horse,
it is now illegal to mail or
551
00:32:28,400 –> 00:32:31,900
send locksmith equipment to
anyone but a locksmith many
552
00:32:31,900 –> 00:32:36,000
common tools can be classified
as locksmith equipment and quote
553
00:32:36,100 –> 00:32:38,700
did that part of the anti-drug
Abuse Act of 1988?
554
00:32:38,700 –> 00:32:42,200
Send a chill down your spine
probably not but Behold a Pale
555
00:32:42,200 –> 00:32:45,700
Horse acts like it should same
deal with this passage quote.
556
00:32:45,700 –> 00:32:49,100
This is a big one, the ACT
orders, a study to be made on
557
00:32:49,100 –> 00:32:52,700
whether to withdraw 100 dollar
bills and fifty dollar bills
558
00:32:52,700 –> 00:32:55,500
from circulation.
Would virtually Propel us into a
559
00:32:55,500 –> 00:32:58,700
cashless society.
And quote, honestly, that sounds
560
00:32:58,700 –> 00:33:02,500
like very run-of-the-mill,
government study type of stuff
561
00:33:02,900 –> 00:33:05,200
to me.
But here’s my real problem with
562
00:33:05,200 –> 00:33:06,600
a section of the book, two
problems.
563
00:33:06,600 –> 00:33:10,400
Actually, if this is a book that
is claiming to be exposing all
564
00:33:10,400 –> 00:33:13,000
the evil shit, the government is
doing in the name of
565
00:33:13,000 –> 00:33:15,500
incarcerating black people.
How do you not mention the
566
00:33:15,500 –> 00:33:20,300
anti-drug Abuse Act of 1986?
That’s the other one that Joe
567
00:33:20,300 –> 00:33:23,900
Biden wrote that mandated that
sentences for crack?
568
00:33:24,000 –> 00:33:27,400
Actions should be way more harsh
than sentences for powder
569
00:33:27,400 –> 00:33:30,700
cocaine convictions.
How does that not come up?
570
00:33:30,900 –> 00:33:34,200
If for no other reason than?
Because that is a thing.
571
00:33:34,400 –> 00:33:38,800
People could take action against
and speak up about and ideally
572
00:33:38,800 –> 00:33:42,600
change that did happen.
It took deep into the 2000s, for
573
00:33:42,600 –> 00:33:46,400
it to happen but unlike what
Bill Cooper claims throughout
574
00:33:46,400 –> 00:33:48,900
this book which is that there’s
nothing you can do to stop any
575
00:33:48,900 –> 00:33:51,800
of this.
The anti-drug Abuse Act of 1986
576
00:33:51,800 –> 00:33:55,300
is a thing that had it coming.
In this book, people could have
577
00:33:55,300 –> 00:33:58,700
addressed it, there were
absolutely ways to take that up
578
00:33:58,700 –> 00:34:01,600
with your elected officials but
not, if you think the Bilderberg
579
00:34:01,600 –> 00:34:03,900
Group did it and that fighting
them is hopeless.
580
00:34:04,000 –> 00:34:07,400
Also, another glaring Omission,
when it comes to the anti-drug
581
00:34:07,400 –> 00:34:10,300
Abuse Act of 1988.
That Bill Cooper does not
582
00:34:10,300 –> 00:34:13,400
mention it reinstated, the
federal death penalty.
583
00:34:13,400 –> 00:34:15,600
How does that not come up in
your book about how the
584
00:34:15,600 –> 00:34:18,800
Illuminati is enforcing
population control on the world?
585
00:34:18,800 –> 00:34:21,900
Because it absolutely does not
Bill Cooper breaks down
586
00:34:21,900 –> 00:34:25,400
basically every other aspect.
Act of the law including
587
00:34:25,400 –> 00:34:29,199
questioning why a law meant to
fight money, laundering would
588
00:34:29,199 –> 00:34:32,300
want to examine Bank
transactions, over 10,000
589
00:34:32,300 –> 00:34:35,000
dollars.
But at no point, does he say oh
590
00:34:35,000 –> 00:34:36,800
yeah.
Also the Federal Government Can
591
00:34:36,800 –> 00:34:39,400
execute you for all this.
Now how does that not even
592
00:34:39,400 –> 00:34:42,900
getting honorable mention?
Unless someone somewhere who may
593
00:34:42,900 –> 00:34:45,100
have commissioned this book was
hoping it’s the part.
594
00:34:45,100 –> 00:34:47,000
Looky-loos would talk about the
least.
595
00:34:47,199 –> 00:34:49,199
I don’t know.
Chapter 8.
596
00:34:49,199 –> 00:34:52,199
Are the Sheep ready to Shear?
Ugh.
597
00:34:52,400 –> 00:34:56,000
Such an exciting chapter.
Name for such a boring chapter.
598
00:34:56,000 –> 00:35:00,500
This is mostly just a reprint of
a 1990 article about an Oklahoma
599
00:35:00,500 –> 00:35:03,200
tax law.
The article Cooper reprints in
600
00:35:03,200 –> 00:35:08,000
the book is called, Oklahoma HP
1750, the police States test
601
00:35:08,000 –> 00:35:11,100
case, it was written by a guy
named Gary North, who called
602
00:35:11,100 –> 00:35:15,700
Oklahoma HP. 1750 one of the
scariest pieces of socialistic
603
00:35:15,700 –> 00:35:19,400
police state legislation to
arrive on the scene to date.
604
00:35:19,400 –> 00:35:23,200
Very short chapter, Gary Norris
argument is that this law allows
605
00:35:23,200 –> 00:35:26,300
for Oklahoma, Authorities to
enter the home of anyone who
606
00:35:26,300 –> 00:35:28,800
they think isn’t paying their
fair share of taxes and
607
00:35:28,800 –> 00:35:30,800
calculate the value of all their
stuff.
608
00:35:30,800 –> 00:35:34,900
But I read up on it a little,
all this law was saying is that
609
00:35:34,900 –> 00:35:37,700
if the tax people think you’re
lying about how much stuff you
610
00:35:37,700 –> 00:35:41,300
own, they might show up and ask
for permission to enter your
611
00:35:41,300 –> 00:35:44,400
residence, like the fucking
vampires, that they are.
612
00:35:44,400 –> 00:35:47,600
And if you let them, they can go
through your stuff and decide if
613
00:35:47,607 –> 00:35:50,400
you’re lying about what you own.
But if you don’t let them, they
614
00:35:50,400 –> 00:35:52,600
have to get a warrant unless I’m
missing something.
615
00:35:52,600 –> 00:35:54,700
This sounds like very standard
Government stuff.
616
00:35:54,700 –> 00:35:57,600
Pay your fucking taxes.
People my God.
617
00:35:57,700 –> 00:36:02,200
Alright, let’s talk about one
more chapter in this first of
618
00:36:02,200 –> 00:36:06,700
two episodes about Behold.
A Pale, Horse chapter 9 anatomy
619
00:36:06,700 –> 00:36:09,300
of an alliance.
I will give Bill Cooper.
620
00:36:09,300 –> 00:36:12,800
Big, big credit for one thing.
His conspiracy theories never
621
00:36:12,800 –> 00:36:17,200
boil down to the Jews did it.
In fact, his argument is that
622
00:36:17,200 –> 00:36:20,800
the new world order is such a
huge Endeavor that no one single
623
00:36:20,800 –> 00:36:23,600
group could pull it off isn’t
the Illuminati, one, single
624
00:36:23,600 –> 00:36:24,200
group.
Poop.
625
00:36:24,200 –> 00:36:27,200
Yes, the Bilderberg Group, but
there are a group that consists
626
00:36:27,200 –> 00:36:28,800
of lots of other groups, you
see?
627
00:36:29,000 –> 00:36:32,400
So in that case, one group can
control the entire world.
628
00:36:32,500 –> 00:36:34,700
Okay, stop asking so many
questions.
629
00:36:34,800 –> 00:36:36,600
Anyway, that’s what chapter 9 is
about.
630
00:36:36,600 –> 00:36:38,100
It’s called anatomy of an
alliance.
631
00:36:38,200 –> 00:36:41,300
And in this chapter, we’re back
to talking about the Bilderberg
632
00:36:41,300 –> 00:36:43,700
Group, and how they came to be
Cooper.
633
00:36:43,700 –> 00:36:47,600
Kicks off the chapter with his
declaration that the Jews are
634
00:36:47,600 –> 00:36:49,700
not.
The ones doing this, and neither
635
00:36:49,700 –> 00:36:53,600
are the Nazis or the Muslims.
It’s not any of them, it’s all
636
00:36:53,600 –> 00:36:57,200
of And so many more groups we
went through the list earlier.
637
00:36:57,200 –> 00:37:00,600
I’m sure you memorized it he
says the driving force behind
638
00:37:00,600 –> 00:37:04,600
the formation of the Bilderberg
Group and their evil plans was
639
00:37:04,700 –> 00:37:06,900
the baby boom.
That happened after World War
640
00:37:06,900 –> 00:37:08,700
Two.
He says, intellectuals of the
641
00:37:08,700 –> 00:37:11,100
day looked into it and
determined that if something
642
00:37:11,100 –> 00:37:13,800
wasn’t done to curtail
population growth, then the
643
00:37:13,808 –> 00:37:15,700
world would basically End by the
year.
644
00:37:15,700 –> 00:37:18,600
Two thousand, two different
studies were conducted both
645
00:37:18,600 –> 00:37:22,100
taking multiple years and they
both came to the same conclusion
646
00:37:22,100 –> 00:37:24,900
to stop population growth.
The world would need to lower
647
00:37:24,900 –> 00:37:28,500
the birth rate and increase the
death rate and I’m like, yeah it
648
00:37:28,500 –> 00:37:31,300
took several years of research
to come up with less babies and
649
00:37:31,300 –> 00:37:34,600
More Death as the solution to
curbing population growth, it
650
00:37:34,600 –> 00:37:36,900
seems like option.
Number one, whatever the case
651
00:37:36,900 –> 00:37:40,300
Cooper’s argument is that upon
receiving this news, the various
652
00:37:40,300 –> 00:37:43,700
powers that be decided they
needed to do anything and
653
00:37:43,700 –> 00:37:46,500
everything to get this problem
under control.
654
00:37:46,700 –> 00:37:50,100
Here’s a quote, those in power
immediately, formed an alliance
655
00:37:50,100 –> 00:37:53,500
and said about bringing the
recommended changes to fruition
656
00:37:53,500 –> 00:37:57,400
and Propaganda mind control and
other manipulations of the
657
00:37:57,400 –> 00:38:00,000
masses.
The Illuminati’s prayers had
658
00:38:00,000 –> 00:38:03,900
been answered and quote.
Okay so as the Illuminati doing
659
00:38:03,900 –> 00:38:06,600
the population control or are
the governments of the world
660
00:38:06,600 –> 00:38:09,200
doing it, in the Illuminati is
just happy about.
661
00:38:09,200 –> 00:38:11,900
It, very confusing.
Anyway, to deal with the birth
662
00:38:11,900 –> 00:38:14,700
rate issue, birth control
methods were developed the
663
00:38:14,700 –> 00:38:17,900
women’s Liberation movement, was
launched to encourage abortions,
664
00:38:18,000 –> 00:38:21,500
and homosexuality was encouraged
because, you know, they don’t
665
00:38:21,500 –> 00:38:23,700
make babies, but none of that
helped.
666
00:38:23,900 –> 00:38:27,100
In the population kept growing
so then they turned to
667
00:38:27,100 –> 00:38:31,200
increasing the death rate by way
of a program called MK Naomi,
668
00:38:31,300 –> 00:38:35,000
carried out at Fort Detrick in
Maryland and what was the point
669
00:38:35,000 –> 00:38:39,600
of MK Naomi to create a plague
that would Target undesirable
670
00:38:39,600 –> 00:38:42,600
populations?
And that plague of course was
671
00:38:42,700 –> 00:38:44,100
AIDS.
And you know what?
672
00:38:44,100 –> 00:38:45,900
That makes for a good place to
stop.
673
00:38:45,900 –> 00:38:49,900
One reason being, I’m just clean
tired of talking now and I need
674
00:38:49,900 –> 00:38:52,000
a break.
I’m probably as tired of talking
675
00:38:52,000 –> 00:38:54,700
as you are of listening to me,
but also, This makes for a good
676
00:38:54,700 –> 00:38:57,100
stopping point because this
chapter of, behold, a Pale
677
00:38:57,100 –> 00:38:59,800
Horse, probably more than any
other deserves.
678
00:38:59,800 –> 00:39:03,800
A lot of extra attention and
explanation, at the end of the
679
00:39:03,800 –> 00:39:08,700
day, population control is the
foundation of the Bilderberg
680
00:39:08,800 –> 00:39:12,200
Illuminati conspiracy being
pushed in Behold, a Pale Horse.
681
00:39:12,200 –> 00:39:15,800
So we should dwell on it for a
little bit and we will on the
682
00:39:15,800 –> 00:39:19,400
next free episode of conspiracy
the show, just not today.
683
00:39:19,500 –> 00:39:23,700
That free episode will be up in
a couple weeks next week.
684
00:39:23,900 –> 00:39:27,600
Olivia’s back for another bonus
episode about a UFO
685
00:39:27,600 –> 00:39:30,500
investigation, carried out by
the one institution.
686
00:39:30,500 –> 00:39:33,400
You’ve always hoped would look
into the matter that, of course,
687
00:39:33,400 –> 00:39:37,300
being online tabloid TMZ, they
did a UFO show.
688
00:39:37,400 –> 00:39:40,200
We’re going to talk about it.
And then after that, we’ll wrap
689
00:39:40,200 –> 00:39:44,400
up our Deep dive into Behold a
Pale Horse and then who knows
690
00:39:44,400 –> 00:39:47,300
what will cover after that.
I do actually know exactly what
691
00:39:47,300 –> 00:39:49,900
recovering after that but things
change.
692
00:39:49,900 –> 00:39:53,700
Who knows if the internet will
even still exist by that point.
693
00:39:53,900 –> 00:39:56,300
I want to get people’s hopes up.
What if something happens and I
694
00:39:56,300 –> 00:39:58,700
have to figure out a way to mail
them out on cassette like Bill
695
00:39:58,700 –> 00:40:00,600
Cooper used to do with his radio
show.
696
00:40:00,600 –> 00:40:02,400
After he wrote Behold a Pale
Horse.
697
00:40:02,600 –> 00:40:05,400
We’ll get into all that until
then I think that’s it.
698
00:40:05,600 –> 00:40:08,900
Go read Behold a Pale Horse if
you want or just listen to me
699
00:40:08,900 –> 00:40:12,100
talk about it on these episodes.
That will be good enough.
700
00:40:12,100 –> 00:40:15,500
It’s like CliffsNotes you know.
All right, let’s get out of
701
00:40:15,508 –> 00:40:17,800
here.
Adam, say goodbye, goodbye
702
00:40:17,800 –> 00:40:19,100
everybody.
We love you.

