Conspiracy! The Show 204: The Complicated Legacy of Behold a Pale Horse (Pt. 2)

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Wait till the Thrones that I
choose the song.

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Hey everybody, Welcome to
conspiracy the show.

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I’m your host, Adam Todd Brown
joining me as co-host this week.

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Oh my favorite co-host of all
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back next week.
As for this week, I’m going it

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alone to wrap up our Deep dive
into the very complicated

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history and Legacy of the class.
It conspiracy theory book,

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Behold, a Pale Horse.
And its author, Milton.

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William Cooper, if you somehow
find yourself, listening to this

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episode, despite not having
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the show, go fix that, and
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First, this is part 2.
It is the natural order of

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Last free episode that was
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Revisited.
And in that episode, you’ll get

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a lot more history and
background on the man who wrote,

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Behold a Pale Horse.
And hey, if you’ve already

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listened to all of that, damn
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You are in the right place.
Let’s get to it.

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When we left off, we were
talking about chapter 9 of

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behold a pale horse.
That chapter is called anatomy

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of an alliance.
And this is a really interesting

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chapter in large part because he
is talking about Things that are

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real and really concerning like
project MK Naomi that is a

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government project.
Obviously given the name, the

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short version of Bill Cooper’s
claims about MK Naomi is that as

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part of this project the US
government developed AIDS as a

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means of killing black people.
And it’s suggested in Mark

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Jacobson’s pale horse rider
which is a profile of Bill

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Cooper that That this part of
behold, a Pale Horse, especially

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resonated with black readers.
And yeah, I bet it did as has

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been mentioned so many times
since covid became a thing.

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It’s really hard to fault black
Americans for being skeptical of

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the government.
In relation to anything, medical

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experimentation related,
especially and the government

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has no one to blame, but
themselves, if people are still

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skeptical about MK Naomi because
almost nothing about it has been

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Declassified or released or
discussed in any significant

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way, but it was a real thing, it
was a sort of successor to

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MKUltra but whereas that CIA
project dealt with mind, control

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and hallucinogens and things of
the like MK Naomi was focused on

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biological weapons.
Yay.

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This is the point in the book
where it’s Easy to get caught up

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in a classic debunker trap which
is deciding that something like

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MK, Naomi should be disregarded
entirely because the person

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telling you about it, got one
detail wrong.

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In this case, I’m not all that
convinced that MK Naomi directly

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resulted in AIDS, being
Unleashed on black people as a

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biological weapon.
And I don’t think he makes a

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great case for it in the book,
but that doesn’t mean MK Naomi

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isn’t Talking about, it doesn’t
even mean that I find the claim

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unbelievable.
I just don’t think he proves it

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in this chapter of this book but
regardless of that one, AIDS

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claim for lack of a better term.
MK Naomi was some fuck shit.

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It came about as a result of
Operation Paperclip which just a

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reminder no matter how people
want to sugarcoat it, that was

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the United States directly
collaborating with the Nazis

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after WWII and it wasn’t reform
Nazis or Reluctant Nazis, or

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low-level Nazis or anything like
that.

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We just embraced the Nazis after
World War 2 MK, Ultra and MK.

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Naomi are both products of that
collaboration.

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That’s not conspiracy theory
talk.

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That is just how history
unfolded and case in point one

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of the main figures behind MK
Ultra and eventually MK Naomi

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was a guy named Kurt blome.
And who was he just the deputy

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Health leader of the the Third
Reich.

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And the answer is yes, that does
mean.

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He oversaw human experiments for
the Nazis.

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Specifically he conducted human
experiments involving biological

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weapons on concentration camp
prisoners including infecting

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them with the plague.
So as to test out plague

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vaccines, he experimented on
prisoners at Dachau with lice to

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cause typhus.
Epidemics in 1943, he proposed

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dropping mosquitoes from Planes
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He also worked closely with
Japan’s Unit 731, who we did a

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bonus episode about back when we
were covering the Jonestown book

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and those dudes were getting up
to some Human Centipede shit.

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And this fella was collaborating
with him.

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So naturally he was tried for
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but he was acquitted and it is
widely believed that his

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acquittal happened as a result
of us intervention either.

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A all those years spent helping
the Nazis figure out how to more

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effectively exterminate large.
Populations of undesirables

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earned him, a new life working
for the United States government

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on a project that Bill Cooper
suggest was meant to help

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identify ways to exterminate
large.

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Populations of undesirables.
So it’s really not as huge of a

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leap as it seems.
And again, the government has no

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one to blame, but themselves, if
people draw that conclusion,

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Illusion don’t work with the
Nazis.

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If you don’t want people
thinking you’re doing Nazi

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stuff, it’s really that simple.
And that actually brings up one

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of my problems with this
chapter.

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And this book in general, he
kicks off this chapter swearing

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up and down that.
No one group is responsible for

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any of this, it’s not the Jews.
It’s not the Communists.

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How many people listening right
now are like, oh no Adams going

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to say it’s the Jews?
No, I’m not because everything

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he’s talking about in this
chapter and Most of this book is

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just the post-world war.
Two Nazi team up American

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government, he’ll call it, the
Illuminati, or the Bilderberg

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Group, or the secret government.
But then, at the end of the day,

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every allegation boils down to
the CIA, the NSA, all of these

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different departments that are
just part of the regular ass

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American government.
And I think that’s an important

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distinction because Nazis, we
hired based on their human

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experimentation prowess
continuing to do human

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experiments on our behalf.
Once they got here is a way more

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plausible scenario than blaming
it on the Bilderberg Group and

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the aliens that Eisenhower
played golf with that one time.

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It’s also way more manageable
enemy than, you know, the entire

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world and weirdly another of
Bill Cooper’s Wilder claims

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starts to sound a little less
wild when you dig.

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Into MK Naomi just a little bit.
It’s a claim that came up on the

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bonus episode that focused more
on the life of Bill Cooper than

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the book itself.
That claim is his assertion that

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JFK was killed by his limo
driver, using a shellfish, toxin

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pellet gun.
I know, I know I personally

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still like The Accidental secret
service agent, shooting angle

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and none of us Are ever going to
know for sure, especially since

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Trump and Biden, both decided to
keep the last few JFK files

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classified on National Security
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Again when two opposing
administration’s agree buckle up

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something bad is happening.
Anyway, shellfish toxin sounds

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like the tinfoil.
Hadst of all possible theories,

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but not really turns out the CIA
was way, way, way into shellfish

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toxin to the That they kept a
whole bunch of it.

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Even after Nixon ordered our
stock piles of biological

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weapons to be destroyed in 1970.
I’ll put a couple links in the

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show notes about this.
One of them is a document from

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the US National Archives called
summary report of CIA

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investigation of MK Naomi.
And yeah, I know it’s the CIA

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investigating the CIA but it’s
also pretty fascinating insight

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into how the CIA at least
worked.

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Back then specifically.
It’s known to be a very

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compartmentalised place.
People work on their projects

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and for the most part, don’t
really know what everyone else

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is working on.
And this report happened at a

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point in history when the CIA
was under really intense public

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scrutiny on account of the
church committee hearings which

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are how we found out about
MKUltra around that time there

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was a call within the CIA
apparently for employees.

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With knowledge of projects that
might make the agency seem like

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morally, bankrupt, Nazi
Collaborators who conduct

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medical experiments on the
public to come forward and tell

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what they knew.
And someone with knowledge of MK

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Naomi alerted, internal
investigators to the existence

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of this project.
And in this report, those

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investigators note that MK Naomi
was, especially shrouded in

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secrecy, only two or three
officers.

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Others were cleared for access
to MK Naomi or Fort Detrick,

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which is the military base.
Where this project happened,

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they couldn’t even find the name
of the project at first and when

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they did they still only found
two files.

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But what they did find in those
files, they clearly found very

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alarming.
They were able to identify the

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program as having started in
1947 and then the CIA.

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Really gets interested in it
around 1952 and here’s the thing

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that doesn’t not fit the
timeline.

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As far as the MK Naomi AIDS
Theory goes when you take into

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account that the first human
cases of AIDS start popping up

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in the late 1950s, just saying.
Now, I should point out here,

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though, that while Bill Cooper’s
concern about MK Naomi, was that

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it produced AIDS as a weapon to
kill black people.

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The concern in this memo seems
to surround the suggestion that

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MK Naomi was, at least in part
an assassination program.

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It was definitely a biological
weapons program, there is no

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doubt about that.
It was meant to provide the CIA

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with a stockpile of biological
weapons that they could use for

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CIA things.
And in some cases, it was a

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biological weapons program.
That was meant to kill, lots,

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and lots of people.
A CIA memo uncovered by the

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church committee mentioned At
least three covert methods for

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attacking and poisoning crops
and confirm they had all been

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field-tested.
So that’s cool.

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This is a long-running program,
it started in the late 1940s.

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Remember that, as I read this
next quote, by the late 1960s a

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stockpile of some 15 to 20
different biological weapons

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agents and toxins was maintained
on a regular basis by a Saudi

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for possible Agency.
Use the supply included, such

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agents.
As food poisons, infectious

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viruses, lethal botulinum, toxin
paralytic, shellfish, toxin

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snake, venom microspore IAM
Gypsy mm, which produces severe

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skin disease, Etc.
And that’s from the cia’s own

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report about MK, Naomi and s0d.
There means Special Operations

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Division, which is the name for
the team of scientists and

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researchers who worked with.
I don’t know the fucking Nazis

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at Fort Detrick So, did you hear
it, shellfish toxin, just like

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Bill Cooper claims that the same
people behind MK Naomi used to

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kill JFK, and it gets even
weirder in that regard.

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Here’s another quote from that
report with the presidential

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order, requiring the destruction
of army, biological weapons and

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toxin stockpiles.
The question was raised as to

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the disposition of agency
materials, parentheses agency,

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meaning CIA, those specific
accounting for each agent on the

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list is Not on hand, the
Department of Defense.

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Indicates that with the likely
exception of the shellfish

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toxin, all of these materials
were in fact destroyed by a

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Saudi Personnel, the shellfish,
toxin along with eight

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milligrams of Cobra.
Venom was found by David,

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Boston, currently chief of the
chemistry branch in Vault be 10

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in the basement of south
building which houses OTS.

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And that brings us to another
fascinating document.

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At all link to in the show
notes, which is a 1975 Time,

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magazine article about the
church committee hearings and

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specifically that mysterious
batch of shellfish.

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Toxin that was found, after all
of our bio weapons were supposed

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to have been destroyed.
The article talks about the

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Revelation during the church
committee testimony that

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initially the CIA came up with
shellfish toxin as an

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alternative to the cyanide pill
that military personnel.

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Nell would carry with them to
take in the event.

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They were captured turns out.
That is a slow agonizing death,

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that involves about 15 minutes
of asphyxiation.

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Shellfish, toxin, on the other
hand is said to cause a tingling

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sensation in the fingers and
lips and then death by way of

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painless paralysis about 10
seconds later.

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And listen, I know it’s a bio
weapon, but that sounds pretty

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Pleasant.
I got to be honest.

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But then, since Russia, Is
reported to have killed some

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dissidents in enemies.
By way of poison darts MK Naomi

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also worked on turning that
shellfish toxin into a weapon

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that could be fired like
ammunition and during the church

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committee hearings.
And again, this is according to

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Time Magazine.
Then CIA director William Colby

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showed Frank Church a pistol.
And here’s a quote from the

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article, resembling a Colt 45
equipped with a fat telescopic

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sight, the gun fires a toxin
Tipped Dart, almost silently and

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accurately up to 250 feet.
Moreover, the dart is so tiny,

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the width of a human hair and a
quarter of an inch long as to be

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almost in detectable and the
poison leaves, no Trace in a

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victim’s body.
And quote, Frank church called

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it a murder instrument, that’s
about as efficient as you can

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get.
There’s also this sentence in

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that time article, the agency
has also developed to other Dart

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launching Stoll’s as well as a
fountain pen that can fire

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deadly, darts, and an automobile
engine, head bolt.

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That releases a toxic substance,
when heated end quote, there’s

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also mention of a light bulb
that emits a toxic substance,

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when turned on and heated.
All that said, I still have some

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concerns about Bill Cooper’s
shellfish, toxin assassination,

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claim in that.
The way he says, the weapon

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would have been used on Kennedy
and the way the weapon is God is

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working in the church committee.
Testimony don’t really match.

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Cooper says, it was a pellet
dipped in shellfish, Toxin and

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that that was done as a backup
measure in case, the impact from

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the pellet didn’t kill him.
In which case you just shoot

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him.
Then if you’re counting on the

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pellet to kill him, that kind of
sounds like it’s going to go in

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his head and lodged in his brain
in which case just shoot him.

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Why dip it in shellfish Toxin
and the shellfish toxin gun

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mentioned by William Colby.
Church committee hearings.

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It’s not a pellet that lodges in
the brain.

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It’s just a tiny little Dart
that works with a pinprick.

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So, Cooper’s right when he
claims the government had

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figured out a means of
assassination by way of

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shellfish, toxin apparently, I
just don’t buy his claim that

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it’s how Kennedy was killed.
Same thing with most of his

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thoughts on MK, Naomi Cooper’s
claim, and behold a Pale Horse

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again.
Is that MK Naomi was carried out

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on orders from our real
government.

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The Bilderberg Group aka the
Illuminati and that it was done

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in the name of population
control.

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He then asserts that everything
from access to abortions to

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homosexuality was created by the
government to keep birth rates

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low.
And when that failed, AIDS was

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invented to increase death rates
confusingly.

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He says, homosexuals were both
encouraged to exist in the name

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of keeping birth rates low, but
also targeted for extermination

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via Aids on.
Sound of being undesirables

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makes perfect sense.
Whatever the case, the big

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problem with his theory here is
that it’s been rendered

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completely pointless by history
on account of a bunch of wild

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predictions.
He makes that never came true,

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like how he says the plan is for
lots of people to die.

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Between the time the book was
published which was around 1991

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and the year 2000 and that if
that doesn’t happen, the human

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race is going to go extinct.
Well, the global population

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back.
It was around 5 billion.

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And now it’s around seven point
seven billion and we’re not

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doing great, but it does seem
like we’ve got a few years left

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in us, as a species we at least
made it past the year 2000.

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I mean, in the big scheme of
things were barely past the year

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2000 but in the big scheme of
things, what’s the year?

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Two thousand planets old as
shit.

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Here’s a quote from Behold a
Pale Horse.

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Can you imagine what will happen
if Los Angeles is hit with a 9.0

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Quake?
New York city is destroyed.

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A terrorist planted atomic bomb.
World war three breaks out in

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the Middle East, the banks and
the stock markets, collapse

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extraterrestrials.
Land on the White House.

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Lawn food disappears from the
markets, some people disappear,

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and the Messiah presents himself
to the world, all in a very

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short period of time.
Can you imagine the world power

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structure can and will if
necessary make some or all of

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those things happen to bring
about?

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About the New World Order and
quote.

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Well, do it then like some very
lesser versions of those things

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have happened like nine eleven
was a big deal, but it certainly

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wasn’t New York City being
completely destroyed.

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There was no 9.0 earthquake in
LA someday.

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Sure.
But those two things haven’t

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happened yet, they didn’t happen
in close proximity and again all

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of this was going to happen in
response to reports that said if

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we didn’t take these steps, By
the year 2000 we’re done and he

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drives this chapter home
admonishing readers to

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straighten up and act.
Right and quit having so many

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kids and like dime or I guess
because if we don’t, the

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Illuminati will do it for us.
And he also keeps reiterating

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how important it is for us to
establish some colonies in space

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to keep humankind going, but he
keeps referring to it as star

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seed and God that sounds gross.
Stop it.

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I’m sure that’s a Nickel science
term that people use, but don’t

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say something else.
He then directs readers to a

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couple of examples of the kind
of reports he’s referring to so

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you can, you know, do your own
research.

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And if you’re going to take this
book on, it is kind of important

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to do your own research here.
Because the first thing he

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mentions is the Hague Kissinger
depopulation policy, which is

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interesting because what
searching for that mostly

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revealed to me is that Bill
Cooper kind of stole this entire

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chapter from an article in the
March 10th 1981 issue of

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executive intelligence review,
which is a Weekly Magazine,

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founded by conspiracy theory,
Pioneer, Lyndon larouche, it’s

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still published to this day,
I’ll link to their website in

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the show notes solely because it
hardcore supports my theory that

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right wing websites, all look
like they were designed in 1996

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because they are the only sites
that action properly on shitty

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rural Wi-Fi, which is Cap shitty
solely for the purpose of making

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information, a little harder to
access in those areas.

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No proof wild speculation on my
part, but God it’s fun.

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It’s a fun thing to do.
Anyway, the title of the article

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is exactly what Bill Cooper
says, you should search for the

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Hague Kissinger depopulation
policy and it is essentially

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reprinted albeit with some
slight rewording in Behold a

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Pale Horse.
Document is called the global

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2000 report to the president.
These two are directly related.

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The global 2000 report to the
president was a deeply flawed,

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but at the time, very highly
alarming study commissioned by

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The Carter Administration about
what kind of calamities the

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world would face by the year
2000.

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If we didn’t do something to get
population growth under control

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in developing countries in
response to this report Henry.

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Kissinger, authored National
Security study, memorandum 200

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implications of worldwide
population, growth for u.s.

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security and overseas interests
it.

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Very mercifully offers up the
less unwieldy alternate title,

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the Kissinger report in
parentheses.

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Now, let me state right up top,
I do not dispute that.

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Henry Kissinger is a straight-up
war criminal and that this

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country’s policies in developing
nations In general but

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especially Latin.
America directly led to the

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deaths of Untold numbers of
people and especially if we’re

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talking Central America created
problems.

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This country is still dealing
with to this day and still

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dealing with in the wrong way,
but also that’s not the kind of

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stuff.
You just put in a report to the

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president.
I think, what you’re seeing in

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both the larouche publication
article and the reprinting of

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it, and behold a pale horse is
something way more.

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Amin and still unfortunately
relevant today, which is the

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demonization of birth control
and abortion.

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Yes, the Kissinger report and
the global 2000 report both

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talked about the dangers of
population growth in population

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control, as a necessity going
forward.

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But in the case of the global
2000 report, what it’s really

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saying is that we’re just going
to have to figure out how to

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live with population growth.
Not that we need to start

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slaughtering Central.
Cans to stop population growth.

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And again, I’m definitely not
saying that no one in the US

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government ever advocated for
the slaughter of central

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Americans.
Of course, they did, they still

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do all the time even if not in
those exact words, but that’s

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not what the Kissinger report is
about either.

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If you’re wondering what kind of
evil it discusses, here’s a

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quote, from a section that I
admit doesn’t have the least

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alarming title.
It’s called functional

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Assistance, programs to create
conditions for fertility.

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Decline.
And I know, I know that sounds

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creepy, but here’s a quote from
that section.

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The desire for large families
diminishes as income Rises

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developed countries in the more
developed areas in less

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developed countries have lower
fertility than less developed

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areas.
Similarly Family Planning

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programs produce more acceptors
and have a greater impact on

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fertility in developed areas
than they do in less developed

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areas.
Thus investments in development

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are important in.
Whirring fertility rates and

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quote.
And who isn’t that scary

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investments in development?
I mean, again don’t get me

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wrong.
The United States government

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saying investments in
development can very much be

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scary.
It’s just in this case, not what

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Bill Cooper is making it out to
be.

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Here’s another quote Assistance,
programs have less chance of

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success as long as the numbers
to be fed educated and employed

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are increasing rapidly, thus, to
assist in achieving.

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An LDC that means less developed
countries.

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Fertility reduction, not only
should Family Planning be high

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up on the priority list for US,
foreign assistance, but high

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priority in allocation of funds
should be given two programs in

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other sectors that contribute in
a cost-effective manner in

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reduction, in population growth
and quote.

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And I mean, I guess you could
interpret that to mean.

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We need to murder Salvadorans if
you wanted to, but it’s Really

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not what the Kissinger report is
getting at the first of those

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programs in other sectors that
they bring up is providing

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minimal levels of Education,
comma, especially for women and

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again, fuck Henry Kissinger, I
get it.

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He’s as much of a problem on the
world stage as anyone else and

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the things this country and its
military did under his watch and

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under his suggestion.
Horrible.

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But that doesn’t mean this
report is proof positive of an

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Illuminati, plot to enslave the
world.

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Old and install, a one world
government, it’s not even sort

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of at if anything, this reads
like a very strong endorsement

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for American businesses to be
allowed to set up shop in these

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countries like as the end of the
day, that’s what’s going to help

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them develop like not really.
But that’s what we will say.

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Will help them develop you just
need enough Starbucks and that

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will Stave off a civil war.
It’s more that the reaction to

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this report is just more
evidence that right.

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Hangers hate abortion and birth
control as if we needed any more

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evidence of that, even by the
point in history when this book

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came out, this section of behold
a Pale Horse and the article

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that inspired it are the reason
why things like the Global Gag

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Rule exists.
That’s a thing that was first.

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Put in place by the Reagan
Administration in 1984.

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It prevents foreign
organizations, receiving us

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Global Health assistance from
providing information referrals

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or services for legal abortion
or Waiting for access to

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abortion services in their
country, even with their own

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money.
And that is a quote from the

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Planned Parenthood website in an
article about the Global Gag

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Rule, a link to it.
It’s a law that exists solely

438
00:27:37,300 –> 00:27:40,500
along party lines.
When a republican is President,

439
00:27:40,600 –> 00:27:44,100
the Global Gag Rule is in
effect, Trump reinstated it and

440
00:27:44,100 –> 00:27:46,400
expanded.
It almost immediately upon

441
00:27:46,400 –> 00:27:50,500
taking office Biden, rescinded
it upon taking office, that’s

442
00:27:50,500 –> 00:27:53,000
always how it works.
That’s what this section of

443
00:27:53,000 –> 00:27:54,800
behold.
A pale horse is about It is

444
00:27:55,000 –> 00:27:58,400
anti-abortion propaganda and not
much else.

445
00:27:58,400 –> 00:28:03,400
Go figure So as mentioned on the
last episode, a whole lot of

446
00:28:03,400 –> 00:28:05,400
this book is just Bill.
Cooper.

447
00:28:05,400 –> 00:28:09,600
Reprinting, various reports and
documents and articles, and

448
00:28:09,600 –> 00:28:13,600
transcripts of varying
credibility, that he feels

449
00:28:13,600 –> 00:28:17,200
support his assertion that the
Bilderberg Group is out to get

450
00:28:17,200 –> 00:28:20,900
you, like, how chapter 10 is
just an article written by a guy

451
00:28:20,900 –> 00:28:24,200
named Neil Knox?
That’s all about how Gorbachev

452
00:28:24,200 –> 00:28:27,800
seized guns and Lithuania and
asking what the difference is

453
00:28:27,900 –> 00:28:31,500
between that and some gun laws.
In New Jersey called the graves

454
00:28:31,500 –> 00:28:34,900
act which was apparently still
being debated at the time but

455
00:28:34,900 –> 00:28:37,800
wasn’t lost yet.
And at the time, I would have

456
00:28:37,808 –> 00:28:41,400
said the difference is that
Lithuania has a population of a

457
00:28:41,400 –> 00:28:45,100
couple million where the United
States is hundreds of millions

458
00:28:45,100 –> 00:28:48,600
and we all have guns, every
single one of us so that

459
00:28:48,600 –> 00:28:51,200
operation probably wouldn’t go
as well here.

460
00:28:51,300 –> 00:28:55,300
Now I’d say the difference is
there are still a shit ton of

461
00:28:55,300 –> 00:28:58,700
guns in New Jersey and
everywhere else in the United

462
00:28:58,700 –> 00:29:00,700
States.
Even if you Get an extra

463
00:29:00,700 –> 00:29:03,000
trouble.
If your gun is a sawed-off

464
00:29:03,000 –> 00:29:06,400
shotgun in New Jersey, that’s
the kind of stuff the graves act

465
00:29:06,400 –> 00:29:09,500
does the chapter ends with a
note from Cooper, about how

466
00:29:09,500 –> 00:29:13,500
obviously the Second Amendment
is, the only reason the New

467
00:29:13,500 –> 00:29:17,500
World Order hasn’t happened yet.
So chapter 9 was anti-abortion

468
00:29:17,500 –> 00:29:20,900
propaganda.
Chapter 10 is an NRA commercial

469
00:29:21,200 –> 00:29:23,600
for some reason.
In the middle of all this is

470
00:29:23,600 –> 00:29:27,700
chapter 11, which is just a
conversation between Bill Cooper

471
00:29:27,900 –> 00:29:32,600
and a guy named Randy who Ruiz
with Cooper’s hunch that Nixon

472
00:29:32,700 –> 00:29:36,200
was actually deposed in a coup
as opposed to being forced to

473
00:29:36,200 –> 00:29:40,300
resign to which I say what’s the
fucking difference, dude.

474
00:29:40,400 –> 00:29:43,600
Who cares also?
This isn’t really a transcript

475
00:29:43,600 –> 00:29:47,100
of his conversation.
It’s his attempt to recreate the

476
00:29:47,100 –> 00:29:51,400
conversation which happened a
long time ago, based on his

477
00:29:51,400 –> 00:29:55,300
memory of said conversation,
which is based on Randy’s,

478
00:29:55,300 –> 00:29:58,600
memory of the thing he’s talking
about which happened even longer

479
00:29:58,700 –> 00:30:02,000
ago, before that, It is a
meaningless chapter.

480
00:30:02,100 –> 00:30:05,700
It should have been cut.
It serves, no purpose, but

481
00:30:05,700 –> 00:30:08,800
chapter 12.
Now that’s where everything

482
00:30:08,800 –> 00:30:11,000
comes together which is
appropriate.

483
00:30:11,000 –> 00:30:14,800
Because despite this book
claiming to have 17 chapters or

484
00:30:14,800 –> 00:30:18,200
18 depending on what copy you
get more on that later.

485
00:30:18,400 –> 00:30:22,100
Chapter 12 is actually the last
proper chapter of the book, the

486
00:30:22,100 –> 00:30:26,100
rest is more articles and
documents and appendices that

487
00:30:26,100 –> 00:30:28,700
you can go read for yourself if
you’re interested.

488
00:30:28,700 –> 00:30:33,500
But it’s That serves as the
culmination of all of the

489
00:30:33,500 –> 00:30:37,200
information presented up to this
point in the book, chapter is

490
00:30:37,200 –> 00:30:41,200
called the secret government.
And it’s a reworked version of a

491
00:30:41,200 –> 00:30:45,100
research paper.
He first delivered at a UFO

492
00:30:45,100 –> 00:30:49,700
conference in Las Vegas in 1989.
There are a few reasons to be

493
00:30:49,700 –> 00:30:53,800
skeptical of the theory.
Bill Cooper presents here for

494
00:30:53,800 –> 00:30:57,800
one thing as mentioned on the
Milton, William Cooper Revisited

495
00:30:57,800 –> 00:31:00,400
episode.
And in The Pale Horse, Strider

496
00:31:00,400 –> 00:31:03,900
book by Marc Jacobson.
One of the tenets of Cooper’s

497
00:31:03,900 –> 00:31:06,700
claim.
The Majestic 12 theory was

498
00:31:06,700 –> 00:31:11,800
called into serious question the
day before he delivered this

499
00:31:11,800 –> 00:31:15,900
speech at that UFO conference
and it was called into question

500
00:31:15,900 –> 00:31:18,200
at the exact same UFO
conference.

501
00:31:18,300 –> 00:31:22,300
It was there that a guy named
William Moore who co-authored a

502
00:31:22,300 –> 00:31:26,900
seminal book about the Roswell
incident that will come up again

503
00:31:27,200 –> 00:31:30,300
in a little bit William Moore.
He’s one of The Originators Of

504
00:31:30,300 –> 00:31:34,500
the mj-12 theory, Majestic 12,
he got up in front of a crowd of

505
00:31:34,500 –> 00:31:39,300
UFO, enthusiasts and tearfully,
admitted that he collaborated

506
00:31:39,300 –> 00:31:43,100
with notorious government,
misinformation creep, Richard

507
00:31:43,100 –> 00:31:45,000
Doty who we talk about all the
time.

508
00:31:45,000 –> 00:31:48,700
On this podcast, is the subject
of the Mirage Men documentary

509
00:31:48,800 –> 00:31:53,300
William Moore at this same UFO
conference where Bill Cooper.

510
00:31:53,600 –> 00:31:57,100
First delivered.
The secret government report to

511
00:31:57,100 –> 00:31:59,800
a crowd of onlookers William
Moore admitted.

512
00:31:59,900 –> 00:32:03,900
Itted at that conference.
That he and Richard Doty,

513
00:32:03,900 –> 00:32:07,700
collaborated to make up this
story in an effort to

514
00:32:07,700 –> 00:32:12,500
preemptively, discredit a guy in
New Mexico, who built an antenna

515
00:32:12,500 –> 00:32:15,500
on the roof of his house.
That was capable of picking up

516
00:32:15,500 –> 00:32:17,800
things that he shouldn’t be able
to hear.

517
00:32:18,000 –> 00:32:21,200
And Bill Cooper was super angry
at first, but then he

518
00:32:21,200 –> 00:32:24,800
immediately decided William
Moore is a liar, and delivered

519
00:32:24,800 –> 00:32:26,800
his secret government speech the
next day.

520
00:32:27,000 –> 00:32:30,600
Anyway, the other reason to be
skeptical comes Form of this

521
00:32:30,600 –> 00:32:34,400
quote from Cooper himself in
Behold a Pale Horse here goes

522
00:32:34,500 –> 00:32:38,400
most of this knowledge comes
directly from or is a result of

523
00:32:38,600 –> 00:32:43,000
my own research into the top
secret material that I saw and

524
00:32:43,000 –> 00:32:48,300
read between the years 1970 and
1973 as a member of the

525
00:32:48,300 –> 00:32:51,700
intelligence briefing team of
the Commander in Chief of the

526
00:32:51,700 –> 00:32:54,600
Pacific Fleet.
Since some of this information

527
00:32:54,600 –> 00:32:58,300
was derived from sources that I
cannot divulge for obvious

528
00:32:58,300 –> 00:33:02,300
reasons and from Each sources
that I cannot vouch for this

529
00:33:02,300 –> 00:33:06,100
chapter must be termed a
hypothesis and quote, but if it

530
00:33:06,100 –> 00:33:09,500
puts your mind at ease, he does
mention that his hypothesis is

531
00:33:09,500 –> 00:33:12,300
the only one that makes the
world make sense.

532
00:33:12,500 –> 00:33:17,900
So take comfort in that and I
will try to keep my rundown of

533
00:33:18,200 –> 00:33:22,400
this Theory as brief as
possible, but this really is the

534
00:33:22,400 –> 00:33:26,600
Crux of behold a Pale Horse.
What he talks about in this

535
00:33:26,600 –> 00:33:29,800
chapter is him round and third
head.

536
00:33:30,000 –> 00:33:34,500
For home, tying it all together,
just like they do in the movies.

537
00:33:34,600 –> 00:33:40,400
It starts with Roswell and at
least 16 other incidents like it

538
00:33:40,400 –> 00:33:46,000
that happened between January
1947 and December 1952 along

539
00:33:46,000 –> 00:33:48,900
with those 16 or so crashed
alien Vehicles.

540
00:33:48,900 –> 00:33:54,300
We also found sixty five alien
bodies and one live alien and

541
00:33:54,300 –> 00:33:57,100
honestly this is one of my first
problems with this Theory.

542
00:33:57,200 –> 00:33:59,400
Would we really be this thirsty
for technology?

543
00:33:59,400 –> 00:34:02,900
That Arash, this much over.
New Mexico, no less.

544
00:34:03,100 –> 00:34:06,400
Like I’m No Authority but I have
spent some time in New Mexico

545
00:34:06,800 –> 00:34:09,500
and while the police are
certainly crazy, the weather is

546
00:34:09,500 –> 00:34:13,199
not, it’s the desert man.
How rad can this technology

547
00:34:13,199 –> 00:34:16,800
really be if it can’t, stay
afloat above New Mexico.

548
00:34:16,800 –> 00:34:20,600
It is the hot air balloon
capital of the world and it’s

549
00:34:20,600 –> 00:34:23,500
that for a reason it’s because
there’s nothing up there.

550
00:34:23,500 –> 00:34:27,000
There is nothing up there but
hot air balloons and UFOs and

551
00:34:27,000 –> 00:34:29,800
where this interested in the
ones that crash all the time.

552
00:34:30,000 –> 00:34:33,900
Okay, whatever, whatever this
part of the story, lots of

553
00:34:33,900 –> 00:34:37,800
people know, and alleged UFO
crash subsequent government

554
00:34:37,900 –> 00:34:40,000
cover-up.
That’s the Roswell story

555
00:34:40,100 –> 00:34:43,800
Cooper’s contribution to this
story, is the allegation that

556
00:34:43,800 –> 00:34:48,199
human body parts were found on
some of the UFOs, which seems

557
00:34:48,199 –> 00:34:52,699
like a huge thing for all the
other people who had claimed to

558
00:34:52,699 –> 00:34:56,100
have seen this wreckage, or
evidence of this wreckage up to

559
00:34:56,100 –> 00:34:59,600
this point to have overlooked.
But let’s keep going.

560
00:34:59,900 –> 00:35:02,800
A group of America’s top,
scientists quickly convened to

561
00:35:02,800 –> 00:35:05,700
look into this matter.
Working under the name project

562
00:35:05,700 –> 00:35:10,000
sign, which evolved into project
Grudge, which formed an offshoot

563
00:35:10,000 –> 00:35:12,800
disinformation project called
Blue Book.

564
00:35:13,100 –> 00:35:17,900
The CIA was formed specifically
to deal with the UFO threat

565
00:35:18,100 –> 00:35:21,100
again, this is all coming
directly from Behold a Pale

566
00:35:21,100 –> 00:35:23,700
Horse.
If you dispute any of the facts,

567
00:35:24,000 –> 00:35:26,700
you’re going to have to say on
sit up with Bill Cooper, he then

568
00:35:26,700 –> 00:35:29,800
runs down a series of executive
orders and National Security

569
00:35:29,900 –> 00:35:33,000
Already memos and things of the
like that gave our various

570
00:35:33,000 –> 00:35:36,600
intelligence agencies, varying
levels of authority to

571
00:35:36,600 –> 00:35:40,300
investigate and deal with UFOs.
And he mentions that these

572
00:35:40,300 –> 00:35:44,200
actions put a buffer between the
president and the actions of the

573
00:35:44,200 –> 00:35:48,200
CIA just in case he needed to
disavow any of their actions

574
00:35:48,400 –> 00:35:51,300
that might accidentally come to
light in the future and that’s

575
00:35:51,300 –> 00:35:53,600
all true.
But whether it was done because

576
00:35:53,600 –> 00:35:57,500
of aliens or just because we
knew the CIA was going to wreck

577
00:35:57,500 –> 00:36:00,900
shit on the world stage is the
only a real sticking point.

578
00:36:00,900 –> 00:36:04,600
But that same thing kind of
comes up in the CIA and the cult

579
00:36:04,600 –> 00:36:08,500
of intelligence which is a way
more credible book and probably

580
00:36:08,500 –> 00:36:12,000
explains why it’s so much harder
to find eventually all of these

581
00:36:12,000 –> 00:36:16,100
memos and meetings lead to the
creation of the Majestic 12

582
00:36:16,100 –> 00:36:20,100
group, he talks about a guy
named James Forrestal, who will

583
00:36:20,100 –> 00:36:22,200
probably do a whole episode
about at some point.

584
00:36:22,200 –> 00:36:25,900
He’s a pretty interesting figure
in the UFO story, according to

585
00:36:25,908 –> 00:36:29,800
Cooper’s claim Forrestal was in
early aliens.

586
00:36:29,900 –> 00:36:34,200
Duck T, who also worked for the
government closely with the

587
00:36:34,200 –> 00:36:37,800
mj-12 group but he rejected all
the secrecy in one of the public

588
00:36:37,800 –> 00:36:41,400
to know what was going on and he
eventually killed himself after

589
00:36:41,400 –> 00:36:45,100
being admitted to a mental
hospital, either that or the CIA

590
00:36:45,100 –> 00:36:46,600
killed him to keep him from
talking.

591
00:36:46,600 –> 00:36:50,600
If you’ve seen the documentary
wormwood, you know, that at that

592
00:36:50,600 –> 00:36:54,100
point in history, that could
totally go either direction and

593
00:36:54,100 –> 00:36:57,500
probably today, Bill, Cooper
claims Forest dolls Diaries were

594
00:36:57,500 –> 00:36:59,700
confiscated and kept hidden for
years.

595
00:36:59,800 –> 00:37:03,800
Ears and then finally published
in a highly censored version.

596
00:37:04,000 –> 00:37:08,200
That is true, but he also claims
the CIA gave the real Diaries to

597
00:37:08,200 –> 00:37:11,800
a guy named Whitley strieber.
Who published them as a fiction

598
00:37:11,800 –> 00:37:15,500
book called Majestic.
And that’s also true, at least

599
00:37:15,700 –> 00:37:19,100
the part where Whitley strieber
wrote a book called Majestic is

600
00:37:19,100 –> 00:37:20,700
true.
If it’s true that he was given

601
00:37:20,700 –> 00:37:24,100
the actual Forrestal Diaries and
told to make them fiction by the

602
00:37:24,100 –> 00:37:26,700
CIA.
That is a pretty bulletproof way

603
00:37:27,000 –> 00:37:29,600
to make sure No One Believes the
actual truth.

604
00:37:29,900 –> 00:37:33,100
Should it ever surface?
Just make it into a book or a

605
00:37:33,100 –> 00:37:35,800
movie first.
And it’s worth noting that after

606
00:37:35,800 –> 00:37:38,900
the initial hubbub, people
didn’t really start caring about

607
00:37:38,900 –> 00:37:42,600
the Roswell incident.
Again, until someone published a

608
00:37:42,600 –> 00:37:47,000
book about it in 1980, that
someone being William Moore, the

609
00:37:47,000 –> 00:37:51,400
same guy who admitted to making
up the Majestic 12 story with

610
00:37:51,400 –> 00:37:55,400
Richard Doty that 1980 book was
followed up by a really

611
00:37:55,400 –> 00:37:59,700
important Roswell book in 1991
called UFO, crash at Roswell.

612
00:38:00,100 –> 00:38:04,300
That included interviews with
more than 100 alleged Witnesses

613
00:38:04,300 –> 00:38:08,600
in between those two points.
In 1989, is when Whitley

614
00:38:08,600 –> 00:38:13,000
strieber publishes that fiction
book called Majestic that Bill

615
00:38:13,000 –> 00:38:14,700
Cooper and a lot of other
people.

616
00:38:14,700 –> 00:38:18,300
Suspect is actually the real
Forrestal Diaries.

617
00:38:18,400 –> 00:38:22,700
So the timing works out but who
knows, man Whitley strieber is

618
00:38:22,700 –> 00:38:25,900
both a fiction writer.
And the guy who wrote communion,

619
00:38:25,900 –> 00:38:29,400
which he alleges is a nonfiction
account of his own.

620
00:38:29,900 –> 00:38:32,600
Audiences being abducted by
aliens.

621
00:38:32,700 –> 00:38:36,700
Also, fun side note, the exact
date Majestic was published

622
00:38:36,700 –> 00:38:41,100
September 11th, 1989 because, of
course, so, back to those

623
00:38:41,100 –> 00:38:43,500
crashes.
And Bill Cooper’s Theory, at one

624
00:38:43,500 –> 00:38:46,800
of them in Alien, was found
wandering around the desert and

625
00:38:46,800 –> 00:38:50,100
taken into custody.
It was initially named Ebe,

626
00:38:50,100 –> 00:38:54,300
extraterrestrial, biological
entity and dang it.

627
00:38:54,300 –> 00:38:57,900
If this little rascal didn’t
have a tendency to lie.

628
00:38:58,000 –> 00:39:00,900
When asked questions, how did
they Communicate with it.

629
00:39:00,900 –> 00:39:03,400
No clue.
He doesn’t say, I guess it just

630
00:39:03,400 –> 00:39:07,200
speaks all the languages,
whatever the case Ebe starts to

631
00:39:07,200 –> 00:39:11,200
get sick in 1951, and no one
knew why or what to do?

632
00:39:11,500 –> 00:39:13,500
Because they didn’t have any
background on its medical

633
00:39:13,500 –> 00:39:15,900
history.
Obviously, in this little Lyin

634
00:39:15,900 –> 00:39:19,400
son of a bitch certainly isn’t
going to tell anyone anything.

635
00:39:19,400 –> 00:39:22,500
Other than that, he processed
food kind of the same way

636
00:39:22,500 –> 00:39:26,300
plants.
Do so doctors and botanist both

637
00:39:26,500 –> 00:39:29,700
work to save Ebe and they
failed, he died.

638
00:39:29,800 –> 00:39:34,100
June 2nd 1952.
Oh also the movie e.t. is

639
00:39:34,100 –> 00:39:37,900
secretly a thinly-veiled
retelling of Ebe Story.

640
00:39:38,300 –> 00:39:41,500
The government kept trying to
save Ebe right up to the last

641
00:39:41,500 –> 00:39:44,500
minute and even kept sending
distress calls into the void,

642
00:39:44,500 –> 00:39:48,400
after he died, hoping to gain
favor with this clearly

643
00:39:48,400 –> 00:39:53,000
technologically Superior race of
beings that can’t keep a fucking

644
00:39:53,000 –> 00:39:56,800
aircraft a float over.
The notoriously friendly, Skies

645
00:39:56,800 –> 00:39:59,700
of New Mexico or figure out how
to breathe oxygen.

646
00:39:59,800 –> 00:40:03,900
Ian sure so around this time
Harry Truman set up the NSA

647
00:40:04,100 –> 00:40:07,400
which is somehow only like
number three or four on the list

648
00:40:07,400 –> 00:40:10,200
of truly shitty.
Things Harry Truman did to the

649
00:40:10,200 –> 00:40:13,300
world while he was President
sound off in the comments about

650
00:40:13,300 –> 00:40:17,000
what you think was first.
Anyway, Cooper says the NSA

651
00:40:17,200 –> 00:40:20,900
maintains contact with our
secret bases on the moon and

652
00:40:20,900 –> 00:40:24,300
their main job is alien
Communications, but also reading

653
00:40:24,300 –> 00:40:28,200
your, text messages, obviously.
So, this is where that Unholy

654
00:40:28,200 –> 00:40:32,200
Alliance of all the Secret
societies of the world happens.

655
00:40:32,200 –> 00:40:35,300
Truman was keeping Russia,
informed about the aliens.

656
00:40:35,300 –> 00:40:39,100
In case they proved a threat to
the human race with their

657
00:40:39,400 –> 00:40:42,000
inoperable spacecraft and absent
lungs.

658
00:40:42,000 –> 00:40:44,900
They worked on a plan to defend
the world.

659
00:40:44,900 –> 00:40:49,200
If need be, and that’s when the
Bilderberg Group formed like a

660
00:40:49,200 –> 00:40:53,000
Voltron that runs on trauma,
harvested from children.

661
00:40:53,300 –> 00:40:55,400
So cut to Eisenhower getting
elected.

662
00:40:55,500 –> 00:40:59,500
It was an alleged Memo from
Truman to Eisenhower informing

663
00:40:59,500 –> 00:41:01,000
him.
Of the existence of the

664
00:41:01,000 –> 00:41:04,800
Majestic, 12 group that kicked
off that entire theory, in case,

665
00:41:04,800 –> 00:41:08,800
you missed it on the Bill Cooper
bonus episode that memo was

666
00:41:08,800 –> 00:41:13,200
found on a roll of film randomly
mailed to a Hollywood filmmaker

667
00:41:13,300 –> 00:41:15,900
that seems legit so during
Eisenhower’s first year in

668
00:41:15,908 –> 00:41:21,300
office, there’s 10 more crash
discs, 26 more dead aliens and

669
00:41:21,300 –> 00:41:23,700
for live aliens that are
recovered.

670
00:41:23,900 –> 00:41:27,100
So now we’re absolutely
salivating at the thought of

671
00:41:27,100 –> 00:41:29,300
getting our hands on these
rickety.

672
00:41:29,800 –> 00:41:33,400
Traps that I’m starting to
suspect we’re never flying in

673
00:41:33,400 –> 00:41:35,800
the first place.
It seems like they just fell

674
00:41:35,800 –> 00:41:38,500
off, whatever Planet they’re
from and landed on Earth.

675
00:41:38,600 –> 00:41:41,100
I bet the LIE.
Ebe told the government was that

676
00:41:41,100 –> 00:41:44,800
his craft was really just a car
and I bet he wasn’t lying.

677
00:41:45,400 –> 00:41:49,000
Also Cooper says Majestic 12 was
Eisenhower’s idea which I

678
00:41:49,000 –> 00:41:52,900
promise is just his attempt to
deflect those claims from that

679
00:41:52,900 –> 00:41:58,500
1989 UFO conference that the
Majestic 12 story was made up so

680
00:41:58,600 –> 00:42:02,700
shortly and How is presidency a
bunch of large objects were

681
00:42:02,700 –> 00:42:06,200
detected traveling toward Earth
and uh-oh, turns out.

682
00:42:06,200 –> 00:42:09,600
They were spaceships that showed
up and just kind of hovered

683
00:42:09,600 –> 00:42:13,400
around the equator for a bit and
of course, the United States be

684
00:42:13,400 –> 00:42:16,100
in the United States.
We take this as a sign that they

685
00:42:16,100 –> 00:42:18,800
want to talk to us because, you
know, how close we are to the

686
00:42:18,800 –> 00:42:21,800
Equator.
So Eisenhower sets up a meeting

687
00:42:21,800 –> 00:42:25,200
and we talked things out by way
of binary code, he finally lets

688
00:42:25,200 –> 00:42:28,700
us in on that mystery and they
left us a hostage as a show of

689
00:42:28,700 –> 00:42:31,100
good faith.
That They’d return later to sign

690
00:42:31,100 –> 00:42:33,700
a formal treaty.
If this sounds like the plot of

691
00:42:33,700 –> 00:42:36,500
Close Encounters of the Third
Kind, that’s because it is they

692
00:42:36,500 –> 00:42:40,100
did return and sign that treaty
and that hostage became our

693
00:42:40,100 –> 00:42:45,200
first alien Ambassador, his
omnipotent highness Krill.

694
00:42:45,300 –> 00:42:47,700
Fuck, yeah.
Bill Cooper names are first

695
00:42:47,700 –> 00:42:52,500
alien Ambassador in this Theory.
And yes, his name is his

696
00:42:52,500 –> 00:42:57,100
omnipotent highness Krill.
They just call him Krill in the

697
00:42:57,100 –> 00:43:00,500
book for short and it seems like
Krell was He’s fine with that

698
00:43:00,500 –> 00:43:04,400
also Krill very chill and
according to Cooper for

699
00:43:04,400 –> 00:43:08,200
Witnesses were allowed access to
all this information and they

700
00:43:08,200 –> 00:43:12,700
were allowed to meet Krill and
this was done sort of as a focus

701
00:43:12,700 –> 00:43:15,700
group to determine if the public
should know about this.

702
00:43:16,000 –> 00:43:18,900
And based on the reaction of
these four people, it was

703
00:43:18,900 –> 00:43:22,400
decided the public should
definitely not know about this,

704
00:43:22,500 –> 00:43:25,200
but all of this was filmed in
all those films still exist

705
00:43:25,200 –> 00:43:28,400
today with today, meaning like
1991.

706
00:43:28,500 –> 00:43:33,800
When this book was published, So
this treaty we signed stipulated

707
00:43:33,800 –> 00:43:37,600
that we would stay out of the
aliens way and let them abduct

708
00:43:37,600 –> 00:43:41,400
the occasional person or farm
animal to experiment with, but

709
00:43:41,400 –> 00:43:45,300
no killing, okay.
They had to give the people back

710
00:43:45,300 –> 00:43:49,300
in exchange, they would provide
us with technology, that would

711
00:43:49,300 –> 00:43:52,500
finally show us how to fall out
of the sky and crash in the

712
00:43:52,500 –> 00:43:55,200
fucking desert.
So, we agreed to build some

713
00:43:55,200 –> 00:43:59,000
joint underground bases.
So they could probe, but holes

714
00:43:59,100 –> 00:44:02,800
with some prior, Privacy and we
could practice crashing their

715
00:44:02,800 –> 00:44:05,600
craft into the ground.
We did a lot of that at a place

716
00:44:05,600 –> 00:44:07,900
that came to be known as Area
51.

717
00:44:08,100 –> 00:44:10,900
Ever heard of it will.
If you go there you need a cue

718
00:44:10,900 –> 00:44:13,900
security clearance to get in.
And I think, you know what that

719
00:44:13,900 –> 00:44:16,600
means means the president
doesn’t have security clearance

720
00:44:16,600 –> 00:44:19,800
to visit the base again.
Tweet it Bill Cooper, if any of

721
00:44:19,800 –> 00:44:23,200
this doesn’t add up.
So eventually we had dozens of

722
00:44:23,207 –> 00:44:26,500
these bases, all around the
country like 75 or so.

723
00:44:26,600 –> 00:44:28,900
And the money for all this is
funneled through the White

724
00:44:28,900 –> 00:44:32,200
House, which is Weird because
it’s a project of the secret

725
00:44:32,200 –> 00:44:34,800
government that are real
government doesn’t know about.

726
00:44:34,800 –> 00:44:39,100
But, whatever the case by 1955,
it became obvious that the

727
00:44:39,100 –> 00:44:42,800
aliens were not abiding by the
details of the treaty instead of

728
00:44:42,800 –> 00:44:47,100
abducting people, giving them,
the proverbial poke, and then

729
00:44:47,100 –> 00:44:50,700
returning them safely to bed,
like, they promised humans and

730
00:44:50,700 –> 00:44:53,400
animals alike.
We’re turning up dead and

731
00:44:53,400 –> 00:44:55,800
mutilated all over the damn
place.

732
00:44:56,300 –> 00:44:59,000
Also, we learn.
The aliens were using humans and

733
00:44:59,000 –> 00:45:01,100
animals.
For a source of glandular,

734
00:45:01,100 –> 00:45:06,200
secretions, enzymes hormonal,
secretions blood plasma in

735
00:45:06,200 –> 00:45:09,500
genetic experiments, they
explained they needed to do this

736
00:45:09,500 –> 00:45:12,500
to maintain their own Survival
apparently, aliens, run on

737
00:45:12,500 –> 00:45:15,500
adrenochrome.
The problem is, we’d realized by

738
00:45:15,500 –> 00:45:19,600
this point that the aliens had
Superior War technology, even if

739
00:45:19,600 –> 00:45:23,000
it couldn’t fly that good.
And so, we just kind of had to

740
00:45:23,000 –> 00:45:26,700
go along with whatever they
wanted to do until we could

741
00:45:26,700 –> 00:45:31,000
develop a weapon of some sort
that might Introduce some parity

742
00:45:31,100 –> 00:45:35,600
to the situation and we didn’t
we develop some weapons, one

743
00:45:35,600 –> 00:45:39,200
called Joshua one called
Excalibur but apparently neither

744
00:45:39,200 –> 00:45:41,500
one helped.
And also, this was the point

745
00:45:41,500 –> 00:45:46,000
where the aliens informed us
that, oh, they actually created

746
00:45:46,000 –> 00:45:49,800
us and they’ve been manipulating
us through religion and Satanism

747
00:45:49,800 –> 00:45:52,400
in Witchcraft, and magic and the
Occult.

748
00:45:52,500 –> 00:45:56,200
And also they use time travel to
prove to us that the events

749
00:45:56,200 –> 00:45:59,300
depicted in the Book of
Revelation will come to pass for

750
00:45:59,300 –> 00:45:59,900
real.
Real.

751
00:46:00,100 –> 00:46:03,700
If we don’t do what they tell us
to do, I would just like to

752
00:46:03,700 –> 00:46:08,100
pause and remind everyone that I
am relaying.

753
00:46:08,100 –> 00:46:12,500
Another man’s theory about our
secret government to you.

754
00:46:12,500 –> 00:46:17,500
Because I feel like a crazy
person, just saying all of this

755
00:46:17,700 –> 00:46:21,100
and this next part which is that
they also showed us a hologram

756
00:46:21,100 –> 00:46:23,800
that depicted the actual
crucifixion of Christ.

757
00:46:24,100 –> 00:46:26,900
The government filmed it, the
secret government where the real

758
00:46:26,900 –> 00:46:29,500
government?
Yes from there.

759
00:46:29,700 –> 00:46:33,900
He gets into how in 1957 we
found out the world was going to

760
00:46:33,908 –> 00:46:37,700
self-destruct with or without
the help of God or aliens by the

761
00:46:37,700 –> 00:46:40,700
year 2000.
If we didn’t do something about

762
00:46:40,700 –> 00:46:42,100
all.
The pollution humans were

763
00:46:42,100 –> 00:46:45,700
creating on Earth and a team of
scientists came up with three

764
00:46:45,700 –> 00:46:47,800
options.
One blast, a hole in the

765
00:46:47,800 –> 00:46:50,400
stratosphere, and let all the
pollution Escape into space.

766
00:46:50,500 –> 00:46:52,000
Not sure why we never tried that
one.

767
00:46:52,000 –> 00:46:55,500
But apparently we didn’t second
alternative involve building

768
00:46:55,500 –> 00:46:58,400
underground cities.
We obviously did that there’s

769
00:46:58,400 –> 00:46:59,900
one at the Denver Airport.
Art.

770
00:47:00,000 –> 00:47:04,800
Third alternative was to exploit
alien technology that struggles

771
00:47:04,800 –> 00:47:08,700
to stay afloat on Earth to build
colonies on the moon, which for

772
00:47:08,700 –> 00:47:12,200
some reason, he calls Adam in
this book and Mars, which he

773
00:47:12,200 –> 00:47:15,800
calls Eve in this book, and we
did that to Bill Cooper says, he

774
00:47:15,800 –> 00:47:18,700
has the pictures, but that was
going to take a while to put

775
00:47:18,700 –> 00:47:21,400
into action.
Remember, this is late 1950s,

776
00:47:21,400 –> 00:47:24,400
when this is all happening.
So the elites enacted all those

777
00:47:24,400 –> 00:47:28,800
population control measures to
kill people and stop them from

778
00:47:28,800 –> 00:47:31,600
having babies.
He’s and seems like that didn’t

779
00:47:31,600 –> 00:47:36,600
work because global population
increased by about 3 billion

780
00:47:36,700 –> 00:47:39,900
between when that decision was
made and when this book was

781
00:47:39,900 –> 00:47:42,800
published, it’s my own
contribution Bill Cooper doesn’t

782
00:47:42,800 –> 00:47:47,400
bring it up any way to finance
all this the CIA and George h.w.

783
00:47:47,400 –> 00:47:51,000
Bush teamed up to start selling
drugs, not to fund the contras

784
00:47:51,000 –> 00:47:54,300
mind you but the fun population
control efforts on behalf of the

785
00:47:54,308 –> 00:47:57,400
Bilderberg Group.
He does mention that at some

786
00:47:57,400 –> 00:47:59,500
point JFK learned about all
this.

787
00:47:59,600 –> 00:48:02,900
And demanded the CIA stop
selling drugs and working with

788
00:48:02,900 –> 00:48:06,200
aliens, and that he was going to
tell people about the existence

789
00:48:06,200 –> 00:48:09,300
of the aliens.
So that’s when the CIA had to

790
00:48:09,300 –> 00:48:13,000
kill Kennedy with a shellfish,
toxin pellet gun, watch the

791
00:48:13,000 –> 00:48:17,200
driver and not Kennedy.
When you view the film, he says

792
00:48:17,200 –> 00:48:20,300
that in all caps in the book
twice, he then delivers this

793
00:48:20,300 –> 00:48:24,900
line with all of the certainty
and confidence in the entire

794
00:48:24,900 –> 00:48:27,400
world.
Here goes all of the Witnesses

795
00:48:27,400 –> 00:48:29,500
were close enough to the car to
see William Greer.

796
00:48:29,700 –> 00:48:33,900
Shoot Kennedy where themselves
all murdered within two years of

797
00:48:33,900 –> 00:48:36,400
the event end quote.
It’s like come on man.

798
00:48:36,400 –> 00:48:38,900
The woman sitting in the car
next to JFK lived.

799
00:48:38,900 –> 00:48:44,200
Until 1994 his wife, you
outlived her, she was alive.

800
00:48:44,200 –> 00:48:47,800
When you wrote this silly book,
he says, he spent 16 years

801
00:48:47,800 –> 00:48:50,900
looking for a version of the
supporter film that actually

802
00:48:50,900 –> 00:48:54,600
showed JFK getting shellfish,
toxin gunned by his limo driver.

803
00:48:54,700 –> 00:48:58,900
But wasn’t able to until a guy
named John Lear who used to fly

804
00:48:58,900 –> 00:49:01,400
for the CIA.
Jay showed up and gave him one.

805
00:49:01,600 –> 00:49:05,400
And he said, he got it from
another CIA acquaintance, and

806
00:49:05,400 –> 00:49:07,800
man, nothing suspicious about
that bill.

807
00:49:08,000 –> 00:49:12,000
Also, this is the point where
somehow this chapter that is

808
00:49:12,000 –> 00:49:15,300
supposed to be giving us all the
lowdown about our secret

809
00:49:15,300 –> 00:49:18,900
government, overlords devolves
into like five or six pages,

810
00:49:18,900 –> 00:49:24,000
about a dispute over who owned
the copyright to that version of

811
00:49:24,000 –> 00:49:27,700
the supporter film and thus, had
the right to sell it at their

812
00:49:27,700 –> 00:49:31,500
lectures on the UFO.
Circuit this information is

813
00:49:31,500 –> 00:49:35,700
vital to understanding why the
world works the way it does.

814
00:49:35,800 –> 00:49:40,000
Apparently my favorite part of
this extended rant section of

815
00:49:40,000 –> 00:49:43,700
his secret government theory, is
how despite this chapter

816
00:49:43,700 –> 00:49:48,300
relaying, a hypothesis based on
his Crystal Clear, memories of a

817
00:49:48,300 –> 00:49:52,300
treasure Trove of documents.
He’d read 20 years earlier in

818
00:49:52,300 –> 00:49:54,700
the Navy.
He somehow manages to

819
00:49:54,700 –> 00:49:59,400
conveniently forget things like
the name of the producer from

820
00:49:59,400 –> 00:50:01,500
it.
Inside Edition, who lost their

821
00:50:01,500 –> 00:50:05,600
job after trying to get that
version of the supporter film,

822
00:50:05,800 –> 00:50:09,300
that Bill Cooper did or did not
own aired on the show.

823
00:50:09,300 –> 00:50:12,300
Nor can he remember the name of
a newsletter that criticized?

824
00:50:12,300 –> 00:50:15,600
His use of the video, all of
this would have happened within

825
00:50:15,600 –> 00:50:19,200
the last five years or so.
Prior to him writing that book

826
00:50:19,200 –> 00:50:22,000
that again is based on memories
of documents.

827
00:50:22,000 –> 00:50:25,200
He claims to have seen in the
70s from there.

828
00:50:25,200 –> 00:50:29,400
He talks more about how the moon
has bases in plants and seasons

829
00:50:29,400 –> 00:50:33,000
and Cities and people can walk
around there with just an oxygen

830
00:50:33,000 –> 00:50:37,000
tank like you can in the ocean
and he says, once again, that he

831
00:50:37,000 –> 00:50:41,400
has pictures of all of this, why
he chose not to put those

832
00:50:41,400 –> 00:50:43,400
pictures in the book anyone’s
guess?

833
00:50:43,400 –> 00:50:48,100
But at this point he just starts
piling on details, about all the

834
00:50:48,100 –> 00:50:51,300
nefarious things, the secret
government is doing in the name

835
00:50:51,308 –> 00:50:56,100
of selling drugs, to fund their
dirty operations and yeah man.

836
00:50:56,100 –> 00:50:58,300
The CIA sells drugs, no
disputing that.

837
00:50:58,308 –> 00:51:02,200
But speaking of Because he says,
the CIA was using a combination

838
00:51:02,200 –> 00:51:05,700
of Prozac and hypnosis to cause
school shootings.

839
00:51:05,900 –> 00:51:09,200
So as to compel Americans to
give up their guns, which again

840
00:51:09,500 –> 00:51:12,700
are the only thing protecting us
from the New World Order, he

841
00:51:12,700 –> 00:51:16,200
predicts that the wave of crime
that would happen over the

842
00:51:16,200 –> 00:51:21,200
course of the 90s would force
the citizenry to demand that all

843
00:51:21,200 –> 00:51:24,600
guns, be confiscated.
And that once that happens, the

844
00:51:24,600 –> 00:51:28,000
CIA will round up a bunch of
Illuminati slaves, put them in

845
00:51:28,000 –> 00:51:31,100
concentration camps. and then
use them for slave labor, to

846
00:51:31,100 –> 00:51:34,300
colonize the Moon that he says,
has already been colonized,

847
00:51:34,300 –> 00:51:39,300
because he has pictures And then
the rest of the chapter is just

848
00:51:39,300 –> 00:51:42,000
him.
Accusing various people who have

849
00:51:42,000 –> 00:51:46,600
criticized him over the years of
being government agents, who are

850
00:51:46,600 –> 00:51:49,100
part of the plot.
He says that thing where someone

851
00:51:49,100 –> 00:51:52,600
came forward and said they made
up The Majestic. 12 story was

852
00:51:52,600 –> 00:51:57,200
actually a contingency plan
launched by the government in

853
00:51:57,200 –> 00:51:59,800
the event.
Someone like Cooper ever got too

854
00:51:59,800 –> 00:52:04,100
close to the truth about
Majestic 12, which reminder his

855
00:52:04,100 –> 00:52:07,400
version of the truth in everyone
else’s version of Truth is

856
00:52:07,400 –> 00:52:11,400
exactly the same, except his is
that they found human bodies on

857
00:52:11,400 –> 00:52:14,700
the craft also.
And then the real kicker comes

858
00:52:14,700 –> 00:52:18,400
right, at the end of the chapter
please, recall, again a whole

859
00:52:18,400 –> 00:52:21,400
lot of this theory that he
presents in this chapter comes

860
00:52:21,400 –> 00:52:24,700
from his recollection of a bunch
of documents that he claims.

861
00:52:24,700 –> 00:52:27,900
He saw in his commanding
officers office while he was in

862
00:52:27,900 –> 00:52:30,600
the Navy in the early 70s.
Well, at the end of this

863
00:52:30,600 –> 00:52:33,100
chapter, he takes a break from
shit-talking.

864
00:52:33,100 –> 00:52:36,600
Fellow UFO investigators to
praise some who he is.

865
00:52:36,700 –> 00:52:39,100
Uses allies.
And one of them is a journalist

866
00:52:39,100 –> 00:52:42,800
named Linda Moulton Howe, who
especially impressed him by

867
00:52:42,800 –> 00:52:46,100
confiding that she’d seen the
exact same documents.

868
00:52:46,100 –> 00:52:48,600
He saw back when he was in the
Navy.

869
00:52:48,700 –> 00:52:51,900
And how did she see him?
She was shown them by Richard

870
00:52:51,900 –> 00:52:54,500
Doty.
The guy from The Mirage Men

871
00:52:54,500 –> 00:52:58,700
documentary, the guy whose sole
job with a government was to

872
00:52:58,700 –> 00:53:03,600
spread fake information to UFO
investigator types to discredit

873
00:53:03,600 –> 00:53:05,900
them.
So not exactly the best

874
00:53:05,900 –> 00:53:09,900
endorsement Or the validity of
Bill Cooper’s Theory, I guess.

875
00:53:10,600 –> 00:53:13,800
So there’s only one more chapter
I want to talk about in Behold a

876
00:53:13,800 –> 00:53:15,800
Pale Horse.
I know I said chapter 12 is

877
00:53:15,800 –> 00:53:19,200
technically the end of the book
in terms of things Bill Cooper

878
00:53:19,200 –> 00:53:22,400
actually wrote and that is true.
But there’s a weird Quirk about

879
00:53:22,400 –> 00:53:25,600
this book that I’ve just barely
touched on so far.

880
00:53:25,900 –> 00:53:28,900
Earlier a very briefly mentioned
that the number of chapters in

881
00:53:28,900 –> 00:53:33,000
this book varies depending on
what copy you have since

882
00:53:33,000 –> 00:53:37,000
initially reading it back in the
mid-90s, I’d read some Saints

883
00:53:37,000 –> 00:53:40,000
online, especially in Amazon,
reviews and things of the like

884
00:53:40,000 –> 00:53:43,300
about how more recent versions
of behold, a Pale Horse are

885
00:53:43,300 –> 00:53:46,600
missing a chapter and I’d always
heard that it was a chapter

886
00:53:46,600 –> 00:53:49,900
about how the military was going
to use drugs to Stage school

887
00:53:49,900 –> 00:53:53,800
shootings and know, as I just
mentioned that still in the book

888
00:53:53,800 –> 00:53:56,900
and it’s not an entire chapter.
And I didn’t think much of it

889
00:53:56,900 –> 00:54:00,700
until a few months into the
first wave of covid.

890
00:54:00,700 –> 00:54:04,100
Lockdowns, at the apartment
complex, I was living in at the

891
00:54:04,100 –> 00:54:05,900
time.
People would do that thing,

892
00:54:05,900 –> 00:54:09,200
where if you had Shit you wanted
to get rid of that wasn’t worth

893
00:54:09,200 –> 00:54:13,700
selling but not exactly junk.
They put it in like the communal

894
00:54:13,700 –> 00:54:17,000
laundry room for whoever wanted
to take it and people did this a

895
00:54:17,000 –> 00:54:21,100
whole lot with books especially,
and so imagine my surprise, when

896
00:54:21,100 –> 00:54:24,900
I go to do laundry, one day and
someone had left a for-real

897
00:54:25,000 –> 00:54:30,000
print copy of behold, a Pale
Horse for someone to get red

898
00:54:30,000 –> 00:54:33,000
pilled by when I saw it.
My first thought was that the

899
00:54:33,000 –> 00:54:35,700
only responsible thing to do
would be for me to take it as

900
00:54:35,700 –> 00:54:39,200
opposed to letting In some
impressionable young buck have

901
00:54:39,200 –> 00:54:42,100
at it during covid, but then my
second thought was, oh, I wonder

902
00:54:42,100 –> 00:54:45,000
if that’s the real one with all
the chapters, the one that

903
00:54:45,000 –> 00:54:49,100
wasn’t watered down by the man.
So, when I got home, I bought a

904
00:54:49,100 –> 00:54:52,500
Kindle copy of, behold a Pale
Horse, and compared to table of

905
00:54:52,500 –> 00:54:56,100
contents, and sure enough, mine
had an extra chapter and I

906
00:54:56,107 –> 00:54:58,200
started comparing the two table
of contents.

907
00:54:58,500 –> 00:55:02,400
And that’s when I noticed what
that missing chapter is, it’s an

908
00:55:02,400 –> 00:55:07,100
entire word for word, reprinting
of the protocols of the Elders

909
00:55:07,100 –> 00:55:11,600
of Zion if you’re unfamiliar,
that is one of the most

910
00:55:11,600 –> 00:55:15,300
notoriously anti-semitic texts
of all time.

911
00:55:15,300 –> 00:55:19,000
It’s all about how Jews control
the entire world and are behind

912
00:55:19,100 –> 00:55:22,000
all of the bad things that
happen all the time.

913
00:55:22,100 –> 00:55:26,100
Always, it’s often mentioned
that auto manufacturing Legend.

914
00:55:26,100 –> 00:55:29,900
Henry Ford was an early
proponent of the protocols of

915
00:55:29,900 –> 00:55:32,800
the Elders of Zion.
What’s mentioned less is that a

916
00:55:32,808 –> 00:55:35,300
few short years after he
embraced those teachings?

917
00:55:35,500 –> 00:55:39,000
He backed away from that.
Opinion and apologized vehement

918
00:55:39,000 –> 00:55:44,300
Lee even Joseph gurbles, one of
the not seest of all Nazis

919
00:55:44,800 –> 00:55:48,600
rejected, the protocols of the
Elders of Zion as a worthless

920
00:55:48,600 –> 00:55:51,600
forgery.
But Bill Cooper says, the text

921
00:55:51,600 –> 00:55:53,900
was just written that way to
deceive you.

922
00:55:54,100 –> 00:55:57,900
It’s not anti-semitic when you
read it, you just have to

923
00:55:57,900 –> 00:56:01,800
replace the word Jews with
Illuminati and then it all makes

924
00:56:01,800 –> 00:56:03,400
sense.
And here’s the thing.

925
00:56:03,500 –> 00:56:06,300
No, no.
Protocols of the Elders of Zion

926
00:56:06,300 –> 00:56:11,200
is Anti-semitic fiction nonsense
and including it in this book

927
00:56:11,200 –> 00:56:15,300
was stupid and a highly
suspicious just like a book

928
00:56:15,300 –> 00:56:17,300
itself.
And you know what, I think that

929
00:56:17,300 –> 00:56:22,100
brings us to the end of our
exploration, into the depths of

930
00:56:22,200 –> 00:56:25,600
behold a Pale Horse, if you’ve
read it, and you disagree with

931
00:56:25,600 –> 00:56:29,500
my assessment of the book, by
all means tweet at me, at Adam,

932
00:56:29,500 –> 00:56:33,300
Todd brown or sound off in the
comments on patreon or

933
00:56:33,300 –> 00:56:35,100
something.
I’ll tell you right now that I

934
00:56:35,100 –> 00:56:38,000
probably disagree with you and
I’m most likely won’t even

935
00:56:38,000 –> 00:56:42,500
respond, but hey sound off
anyway on our next free episode

936
00:56:42,500 –> 00:56:47,300
were diving into the complicated
and tragic story of journalist.

937
00:56:47,300 –> 00:56:51,500
Gary Webb, who in a, I would
argue more credible manner.

938
00:56:51,600 –> 00:56:55,400
First told the world about
actual connections, between the

939
00:56:55,400 –> 00:57:01,800
CIA and cocaine trafficking, and
got an eye elated by his fellow

940
00:57:01,900 –> 00:57:06,500
mainstream media types for it.
So be on the lookout for that.

941
00:57:06,700 –> 00:57:10,000
Till then I don’t have anything
to plug.

942
00:57:10,000 –> 00:57:13,800
If you want to hear that bonus
episode that I keep mentioning

943
00:57:14,000 –> 00:57:18,300
subscribe on patreon or super
cast or write in your Spotify

944
00:57:18,300 –> 00:57:21,300
app and you know I think that’s
it.

945
00:57:21,300 –> 00:57:23,700
Let’s get out of here.
Adam, say goodbye.

946
00:57:23,800 –> 00:57:25,100
Goodbye everybody.
We love you.