Conspiracy! The Show 210: Operation Sideswipe

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Welcome to conspiracy the show.
The world’s most trusted

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conspiracy theory podcast with
your host, Adam Todd Brown and

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Olivia haydar
Hey, everybody, Welcome to

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conspiracy the show.
I’m Adam Todd Brown.

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Who are you?
I’m Olivia hide our and that

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makes us your host, Olivia,
how’s it going?

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You know, it’s going well, you
know, you saying that makes us

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your host.
It reminds me, it’s something is

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new to this episode.
Never really said it before

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someone on the patreon did
comment that, I guess that would

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make the listener.
The parasites, which is kind of

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an interesting thing to
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They’re sure, I don’t know if
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relationship that I would have
come up with.

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But yeah, well Paris, social
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Oh yeah.
Going on between us me and for

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sure you in the audience.
I like it, but in term.

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Yeah, exactly.
Yeah, yeah.

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I think the right.
Yeah.

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So yes, that makes you are
parasites.

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Thank you.
That’s the nickname for

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listeners.
Every podcast has a listener

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nickname, you know?
Well, the true Cry.

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Of course, of course, Crimea.
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parasites.
Thanks for listening, we talking

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parasite, you deserve to win,
best picture.

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All of you.
Exactly.

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This is kind of a precursor to
next week’s episode which

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because time isn’t real.
We just recorded before this,

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which is yeah about the GM
streetcar conspiracy.

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Welcome to Auto month on
conspiracy the show like,

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chronologically though, I think
the other episode is more of a

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precursor for this one and that
it is literally about one of the

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foundational sins of modern.
America said that led to led to

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the highway system that would
allow for a story like the one

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we’re talking about today.
Yeah.

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What we’re talking about today
definitely would not exist

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without what we’re talking about
next week but our subject today

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we’re talking about that classic
conspiracy theory.

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Cast subject matter insurance
fraud.

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Yeah.
Which if you think about it if

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you’ve ever looked into the
Titanic conspiracy insurance

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fraud is actually a pretty big
conspiracy theory subject

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because that is actually part of
the Titanic conspiracy to but we

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already talked about that.
It feels like insurance fraud.

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Usually gets covered under the
True Crime banner.

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Yes.
And this you could go either

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way.
This is Crime for sure but it’s

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also this is like the government
definition of a conspiracy,

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right?
This is the textbook definition

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of a conspiracy.
This isn’t a conspiracy theory.

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This is an actual conspiracy
that was carried out in the City

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of New Orleans and man, is it
wild?

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It is and it’s an interesting
pivot from our usual purview in

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that.
It’s not really an organization

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or like a government.
Or aliens or juice, it’s like

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just a bunch of normal people
and some lawyers it’s the rarest

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of conspiracy the show episodes
in that.

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The police are going to come up
a bunch but never in.

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Yeah a very meaningful or
important or critical way.

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Yeah they’re just there they’re
just like supported functionary

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rule characters.
We’re talking about something

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called operation Sideswipe.
Which is the official name.

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The government gave to this very
complex, insurance fraud ring,

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that was operating in the City
of New Orleans from 2015 until

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very recently.
Yeah, I don’t know how to feel

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about the crimes being committed
here.

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On the one hand insurance fraud
costs us.

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All Olivia, it’s true.
It does not necessarily I don’t

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think insurance fraud.
Are getting like trucking

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companies.
This is Sara Lee hurts all of us

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but like, sure I get it like,
yeah, it’s interesting.

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I don’t know how I feel either
because like, yeah, obviously,

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you shouldn’t do this, but it’s
kind of cool.

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It’s kind of cool.
It’s at least it’s not a violent

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crime, which I write very much,
appreciate right?

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But it is dangerous.
It’s Becky could easily have

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Resulted in serious injury or
death, right?

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And I’m sure it did in some
cases, not death, but I’m sure

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there were some legitimate
injuries.

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Well, we’ll talk about a bunch
of people are getting fucking

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operated on the didn’t need it.
That’s kind of a injury in the

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roundabouts, it’s so crazy.
So yes it seems like this story.

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I’ve searched around so much
just looking for stories about

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this because it’s not a thing
that’s gotten.

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It doesn’t seem like it’s made
it to the National stage yet.

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Yet.
No, but we sometimes do local

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news Roundup episodes of the
unpopular Opinion podcast and

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this landed on my radar.
When I was researching one of

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those and as soon as I started
reading about it, I was like,

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no, this deserves its own
episode somewhere.

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Yeah, and it starts at least in
terms of a thing.

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The public knew about in 2019
with a report by New Orleans TV

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reporter Mike pearlstein and it
was a story about 5.

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People who were indicted on
accusations of staging a crash

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with an 18-wheeler in this
accident in question happened on

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Chef menteur, Highway in New
Orleans in 2017 ever been to

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Chef menteur Highway correct.
You know, how about I haven’t

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tried to think of a joke?
No, I haven’t ever been in.

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New Orleans, I Have Nots.
I’ve been to Louisiana but I’ve

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never really spent a lot of time
there, you know?

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Like it’s I passed.
Through I’ve stayed like for a

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night, but never spent like a
ton of time.

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Yeah, I don’t know if I’ve ever
even driven through Louisiana,

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it’s possible.
But I don’t think so.

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I’ve definitely never.
Yeah, isn’t it?

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I want to, I would like to visit
New Orleans.

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Yeah.
Me too.

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Sometime before they shut it
down for good.

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Yeah, I have never been like
I’ve never spent much time in

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Louisiana but I did just binge
True Blood.

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So I feel like I’m pretty much
an expert.

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Sure, yeah.
On The culture?

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Yeah, I watched LSU won a
national championship once, so I

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get in.
There you go.

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You’re get it.
You’re practically our Cajun,

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aren’t you?
I walked Saints win a Super

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Bowl.
Hell yeah, Drew Brees

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quarterback.
Don’t have football.

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I can’t, I can’t improvise about
sports.

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I literally don’t know anything.
I couldn’t even begin by on.

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Where is it?
All right.

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So, insurance fraud of the kind,
That is talked about here.

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Isn’t that rare?
Like a stain out car accident,

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those happen, usually for
insurance reasons, or if you’re

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in l.a., it’s so someone can
steal your watch.

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But yeah, they happen all the
time.

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A personal like stop in front of
you so you run into them or

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right.
This is a little more involved

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in terms of the staging of the
accident and it’s it’s got such

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scale to it.
That I feel like you don’t get

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in a lot of other insurance.
Fraud cases, right?

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Yeah.
The size of the Ring of people

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involved in this and the number
of accidents they stage is

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mind-boggling like I would watch
a movie about this.

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I think this could be a really
good movie and be kind of like,

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it’d be like Fast and Furious
and like crash like the David

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Cronenberg crashed about the
people who have sex in car,

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crashes like it’d be kind of
like that.

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So what my Pearl steans report
pointed out this?

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First, very early report about
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What made it different was?
There was a lawyer named in

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this.
Yes, indictment also and that’s

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rare the scheme involved.
Five people in addition to the

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lawyer and the ringleader was
said to be a New Orleans, man,

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named Damien LeBeau, hmm.
He was accused in the indictment

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of intentionally driving and
accomplices car into an

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18-wheeler.
That’s the first part of this

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plot that is very interesting.
To me because that seems

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dangerous begin.
Very you’re not supposed to get

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up close to those things.
And yeah, everything you’ve

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heard and driving class about
what not to do when he was an 18

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wheeler in your presence.
That’s what they were doing to

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cause these wrecks.
They were waiting until that

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they would kind of just ride in
that trucks, blind, spot, and

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wait for them to change lanes.
And then just accelerate a

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little bit It.
So the truck would make contact

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and I lived in South Dakota for
a lot of years.

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And the main feature of South
Dakota is that it is

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oppressively windy because there
are no buildings or features or

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people to block the wind.
It just goes unencumbered all

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across the Plains.
And so, if you’re driving on the

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highway in South Dakota, you get
an added risk when you’re

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driving alongside one of these
18-wheelers.

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That even if you’re Right thing
and passing on the left, the

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wind, at any moment could just
kind of blow that trailer to the

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side and that shit will knock
you off the fucking road and

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that’s what the people involved
in this are doing intentionally.

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Yeah, it’s really wild like not
to mention the fact that like

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you know it’s pretty common
knowledge that would something’s

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moving pretty fast.
Like it doesn’t take a huge

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impact to spiral out of control
and cause a total wreck And the

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fact that, you know, spoiler
alert that it doesn’t seem like

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that ever really happen.
During this entire operation is

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kind of impressive.
Yeah.

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Because you hear about this
scheme.

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Anything.
Well, how hard can that be?

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Just intentionally driving?
A car into another car and it’s

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like yes stuntman shit.
Yeah, I was gonna say, that’s

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that’s quite a, that’s quite a
question for someone to ask.

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How hard could that be?
I mean, when you think about how

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a staged accident normally
works, it’s normally sound like

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just stop.
Being short and you run into

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them or something, really simple
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This is there are ya like
there’s a reason why in all of

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these cases, it’s only like 3 or
4 dudes driving the way.

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The way it works.
Is the person driving, in this

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case Damien LeBeau, he
accelerates.

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When this truck starts changing
lanes, and initiates contact,

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one of the brilliant things
about using 18 wheelers.

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They often don’t even feel it
when they make contact with

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these cars.
So they don’t even know an

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accident has Happened.
So, what are they going to tell

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the police, when the police show
up?

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And so, Damien LeBeau caused
this crash?

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But then there’s another car
following him, which is called

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the spotter car.
Damien LeBeau is The Slammer

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Slammers.
The person who drives the car

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and caused.
The crash spotter is the car

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that drives behind after Damien
LeBeau causes his crash, he gets

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out and gets in that spot.
Her car and drives away from the

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scene.
Meanwhile, the car, he was

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driving, had three other
passengers.

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Sandra Senate in one of them
just pretends they were driving.

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And then at some point Damian
labo returns to the scene and

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acts as the witness for the
people.

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In the car, he was driving and
then they all file lawsuits and

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they make in some cases.
A shit ton of money.

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Yeah, yeah.
It like in this first case it’s

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not a ton but you can see that
it’s kind of enough to get the

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juices flowing because Yeah they
eventually make very Hefty

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settlements.
Yeah and in this case they made

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seventy five hundred dollars
each, which is still not bad for

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about that.
It’s work.

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And one of the things that’s
mentioned in this case is Damien

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LeBeau was paid that 7,500
dollars before any lawsuits were

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even filed.
And he was paid that by a

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lawyer.
Yes.

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So that was weird.
That was a weird detail of this.

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That doesn’t Really exist and so
that initial report which will

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link to all of this.
That was an article from wwl-tv

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that’s where Mike, pearlstein
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A better podcast would have
reached out and maybe

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interviewed him, but he wrote
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He’s got to say about that.
What is he gonna say gods?

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And at the end of this first
article, he published about this

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or TV report, this like a
transcript of the report it

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mentions at the end that right
before that indictment was

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handed down.
Several other truck accident

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lawsuits had recently been
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judges due to an ongoing
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So this was like the very
beginning of this scheme, right?

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And then the danziger bridge
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after that.
First crash another shockingly

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similar.
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bridge in New Orleans.
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Similar, it’s the exact same
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They had a fucking formula.
Yeah, it’s most of the same

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people the same driver Damien
LeBeau, but because of the way,

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the scheme Works, no one knew he
was the same driver, but he was

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the witness in both of these
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The 18-wheeler, they targeted.
Oh, was outfitted with a camera?

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Yeah, and for what it’s from
that camera shows that as this

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truck is coming.
To the bottom of this bridge.

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There’s two cars parked in the
right-hand Lane where cars

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should not be parked, right?
So, the truck naturally switches

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Lanes to go around them and you
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cars, start moving in unison.
And then there’s a separate

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camera that’s attached to a
convenience store.

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That catches the car.
Damien LeBeau is driving

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accelerating when that truck
starts getting back over into

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the right lane.
And causing the accident, right?

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And the second vehicle in that
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bystander.
Witness for, when police show up

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right in after that incident,
everyone in the car, that struck

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the 18-wheeler filed lawsuits
claiming their injuries resulted

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in more than a hundred thousand
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but they didn’t realize that
video existed.

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Whoops.
And once that was shown to their

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lawyer, Daniel Patrick Keating,
he Drew from the case and they

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abandon their claim.
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And that is the point where
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race.
Hmm.

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Yeah.
Bummer for bummer for those

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three people who bought their
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Well, I’m guessing probably
bought their way onto this

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little Joyride.
Yeah, that’s the thing we find

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out later.
The people do in this this was

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like an investment.
This wasn’t just like, yeah,

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let’s try to make money.
This was a guy going.

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Well, if you give me Two
thousand dollars.

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I’ll turn this.
I’ll turn that into like 50,000

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and they’re like, how he’s like
I’m gonna drive your car into a

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semi with you in it.
Yeah, well I mean it like it

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almost sounds like a like a
ride, you know.

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Yeah.
Like it’s like a tourist

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attraction.
Surance fraud, the ride.

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I hear ya like, you know, these
people are paying money per

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person.
They get is the card, like, they

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have to be there in order to get
the settlement universe.

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Studios, Ninth, Ward, insurance
fraud the ride.

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Look, I dried it.
Hell, yeah.

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So, the stuff like that.
Fast and furious, right, it was

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fun and this first highway
robbery article, is where it’s

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revealed?
That’s I forgot to mention,

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that’s the name.
Mike perlstein, eventually, he

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writes a whole series of reports
about this and they’re called

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highway robbery and willing I’ll
lie to all of it in the show

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notes.
It’s fat.

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This needs to be compiled.
Some As one thing because it’s

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right now this story is spread
out around among like 30

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different articles.
That’s what we’re doing here

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man.
This are doing the Lord’s work.

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So, that first article, which is
actually the second article

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about this, but the first in the
highway robbery series that’s

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where it’s revealed that the
lawyer Damien LeBeau was working

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with was a guy named Daniel
Patrick Keating from a local law

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firm called Nugent Keating.
The Nugent being Ted Nugent, of

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course the nuge.
Yeah, lawyer Ted Nugent.

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Also it turns out le beau was
the witness in this case also

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and That’s what tips everyone
off.

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This guy is just happens to
witness two, identical car,

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crashes, within gray, or days.
Completely independent of the

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people involved in the crash.
Just right place, right time.

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Meanwhile, I’ve I have seen like
maybe four car crashes in my

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life, the flag.
Yeah, I didn’t that I’ve seen

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very little highway or
traffic-related Mayhem in my

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life.
Yeah, I mean I would say Knock

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on wood.
But now I am a car right now.

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So well, there you go.
I mean I could still see it.

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I can see it when I’m walking
somewhere of course in a new

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bear like look.
And I’m not going to say knock

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on wood because I don’t believe
in Superstition.

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So yeah, that’ll that’ll fix it
too.

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So yeah.
This is the point where

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reporters, especially Mike
pearlstein and lawyers alike

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start looking into similar cases
to see if there were any

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patterns, one thing they catch.
Right away?

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Is that a whole bunch of?
Suspicious accidents all happen

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along one narrow stretch of
Eastern New Orleans.

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Yeah, this is the part that is
like kind of unfortunate about

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this whole thing.
Well, it’s the one just absolute

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stupid decision in an otherwise
pretty well thought out scheme.

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Yeah, that’s what makes it stand
out so much as like, like, it

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never occurred to you to spread
out.

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Little bits.
I feel like it’s just the one

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guy.
I feel like it’s Damien LeBeau.

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Here’s, here’s what I picture
happening.

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Imagine you have to promote
something with flyers and you

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gather up all the neighborhood
kids and you’re like, look I’m

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going to give you each $10.
If you hand out this entire

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stack of Flyers, do not take
them to a garbage can and just

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throw them all away at once.
Damien LeBeau is the The kid

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who’s gonna go?
Yeah.

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Okay, I’m going to handle this
t-shirt and immediately Chuck

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that shit in the truce, I feel
like giving him the idea.

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I feel like that version of the
talk for this criminal

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Enterprise was, do not stage all
your crashes in the same spot.

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Okay, literally.
Within like, miles of the safe

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spot, the same truck stop like,
yeah.

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The Fiat man.
I feel like that has to be what

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it was because you don’t pay me.
You hear about that part.

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But you only hear about it with
the cases that involved in le

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beau.
And there’s other drivers who it

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seemed like they were mixed in
their shit up a little bit.

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Maybe right.
But it’s just this whole

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percentages and taking place in
like this one stretch of highway

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1 guys.
Like Abba not going to catch on.

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No one will notice football was
enjoying millions of dollars in

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the mid.
Like the works here, no one’s

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going to pay attention.
So speaking of video, which is

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what brought this ring down
initially, is that truck video

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will link to the body cam video
from the cop, which again, I

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mentioned up top.
This is one of those episodes

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where the police are going to
come up and it just is

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uncontroversial at all.
How often do we get to talk

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about body cam footage and not
be, hey, completely fucking

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irate about it.
But yeah, I mean, You see what

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happens like again because
they’re using 18-wheelers that

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guy’s not even going to feel the
impact of the crash and because

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they’re using two cars like that
truck driver is going to be

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like.
Well okay so I saw two cars

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there was like two gray SUVs and
I went around them and then

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while he’s saying that that
other SUV comes back and is like

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yeah hey I saw this and they run
up to the fucking cops and they

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tell the story like what can the
truck driver?

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Say he didn’t see anything.
He doesn’t know anything.

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And now Oh, it seems like this
independent Witnesses on the

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scene to straighten everything
out and that’s what’s happening

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in this body, cam video and good
skiing.

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Yeah, absolutely.
It’s a I mean, except for the

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Fatal flaw of everything, kind
of being, you know, Linked In

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These in these subtle ways.
It’s a very good scheme.

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So the next major development
happens in September 2020 and I

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don’t think we ever Is that
actually?

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I think we did say no one dies.
I should clarify.

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Whoa, yeah.
Okay, no one dies in The staged

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car accidents, right.
But if you want to be a stickler

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for details, someone was
absolutely murdered over this.

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Yes.
At least it’s they haven’t

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solved the murder, but it seems
like someone was murdered over

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this.
I mean, why he come on?

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What else?
This is it.

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It’s so clearly the guy’s name
was Cornelius Garrison, and in

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September 20 20.
He was indicted as a

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co-conspirator in an entirely
different series of staged

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crashes, but he was also one of
the drivers capable of pulling

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this off, right?
And the difference with Garrison

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is that he had allegedly, oh,
started working with the FBI,

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see this is, this is no good,
this is no good, don’t do.

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That if you’re in a criminal
conspiracy or mean like whatever

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don’t do that.
Yeah.

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I mean, what’s it is?
It gonna help that much?

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It certainly, in this case did
not but by this point this had

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become a massive investigation
because it turns out all of

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those Active cases that federal
judges were mentioned as having

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shut down at the end of the
first highway robbery article.

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Those turned out all to be fraud
pretty much and the FEDS realize

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pretty quick.
They Had a conspiracy on their

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hands.
Get it just like the name of the

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show, living up to the type, the
name of the show.

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By this point, 28, people have
been charged as part of this

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ring and Garrison was a key
figure.

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His name was the first to appear
on a list of 77 crashes that the

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courts had deemed suspicious by
these.

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And also, yeah, he was shot to
death for days later inside the

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New Orleans apartment complex,
where he And in that span of

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four days, he told his lawyer
frequently that he was in fear

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of his life.
Yeah, that sucks.

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He, I mean, he obviously, that’s
no good.

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No good.
No.

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And the FEDS wouldn’t confirm to
reporters that he was

438
00:25:59,800 –> 00:26:04,000
cooperating but they are pretty
confident that he was right.

439
00:26:04,000 –> 00:26:07,300
And he probably had a lot to say
seeing as how he was accused in

440
00:26:07,300 –> 00:26:13,500
that indictment of staging more
than 50 crashes since 2015 that

441
00:26:13,500 –> 00:26:16,000
is wild, it is As Daredevil,
shit.

442
00:26:16,000 –> 00:26:20,500
It is because this is like, what
2019 that this is happening.

443
00:26:20,500 –> 00:26:24,700
Like yeah.
In a four-year span doing 50

444
00:26:24,800 –> 00:26:27,100
crashes.
That’s a lot.

445
00:26:27,200 –> 00:26:31,300
That’s a whole lot and his
problem wasn’t so much that he

446
00:26:31,300 –> 00:26:33,400
was doing it all in the same
place.

447
00:26:33,600 –> 00:26:37,400
I think his downfall was that.
He kept inserting himself into

448
00:26:37,400 –> 00:26:39,800
it.
A little rank more than Damien

449
00:26:40,000 –> 00:26:42,400
LeBeau.
And so, the way people get

450
00:26:42,400 –> 00:26:45,700
suspicious of him is it’s like,
why are you So many fucking car

451
00:26:45,700 –> 00:26:48,100
accidents, man.
Like what’s the price?

452
00:26:48,200 –> 00:26:49,800
What is happening?
Yeah.

453
00:26:49,800 –> 00:26:51,900
Because he would, he would, you
know, he would act as the

454
00:26:51,900 –> 00:26:56,500
witness but did he also was like
he also got a settlement in a

455
00:26:56,500 –> 00:27:00,700
case too.
So I’m on the fence about that

456
00:27:00,700 –> 00:27:04,600
first settlement because, yeah,
at one point he gets a six

457
00:27:04,600 –> 00:27:07,800
hundred and fifty thousand
dollar settlement for one of

458
00:27:07,800 –> 00:27:11,600
these initial crashes.
But he also had spinal fusion

459
00:27:11,800 –> 00:27:13,000
surgery.
Yeah.

460
00:27:13,100 –> 00:27:16,900
And what his mom?
Mom claims is that that first

461
00:27:16,900 –> 00:27:21,200
accident was legitimate and that
he was legitimately injured.

462
00:27:21,200 –> 00:27:25,100
But also what happens is he ends
up being represented in that

463
00:27:25,100 –> 00:27:28,000
case by a woman named Vanessa
Mata.

464
00:27:28,100 –> 00:27:31,300
Whoo, for one thing she was
married to a disbarred lawyer

465
00:27:31,300 –> 00:27:35,600
named Sean, Al fortyish who had
spent 28 months in federal

466
00:27:35,600 –> 00:27:38,800
prison on fraud.
Charges after admitting he’d

467
00:27:38,800 –> 00:27:42,200
rigged.
The election of the state

468
00:27:42,200 –> 00:27:46,700
Horsemen’s Association And they
mentioned that he got very rich

469
00:27:46,700 –> 00:27:49,700
embezzling from the state
Horsemen’s Association.

470
00:27:49,700 –> 00:27:52,000
It’s like how much money can
they have?

471
00:27:52,100 –> 00:27:56,200
Yeah, I was gonna say, like if I
got a six hundred fifty thousand

472
00:27:56,200 –> 00:27:59,200
dollar settlement, I don’t think
I would ever get into a car

473
00:27:59,200 –> 00:28:02,100
crash again.
Personally, I would figure out

474
00:28:02,100 –> 00:28:04,600
how to make that work for me,
the rest of my life, that would

475
00:28:04,600 –> 00:28:07,500
be plenty for me.
I know my means.

476
00:28:08,400 –> 00:28:12,700
Meanwhile, Vanessa Mata, she
became an injury attorney after

477
00:28:12,700 –> 00:28:16,300
a neck injury.
Ended her Her Hollywood stunt

478
00:28:16,300 –> 00:28:20,600
woman, career and the insurance
company in her opinion, treated

479
00:28:20,600 –> 00:28:25,000
her unfairly, so she enrolled in
Loyola, Marymount College, got a

480
00:28:25,000 –> 00:28:28,000
law degree and went in to this.
Here’s my thinking.

481
00:28:28,200 –> 00:28:31,800
What if it was their idea for
Garrison to get involved in

482
00:28:31,800 –> 00:28:35,000
this?
And she’s the one who taught him

483
00:28:35,000 –> 00:28:40,900
how to drive in these accidents?
I mean I will do, I will say

484
00:28:40,900 –> 00:28:43,700
like because she’s a strong
woman, she’s a former Hollywood

485
00:28:43,700 –> 00:28:45,300
Snowman.
She would know how to do

486
00:28:45,308 –> 00:28:49,300
absolutely.
Like, I will say, I think that I

487
00:28:49,400 –> 00:28:52,100
have no doubt that the insurance
company treated her and fairly

488
00:28:52,100 –> 00:28:54,300
that’s like, where the it kind
of gets a little gray where it’s

489
00:28:54,300 –> 00:28:57,300
like, yeah, I mean, look
insurance company.

490
00:28:57,300 –> 00:28:59,200
Suck ass.
And like, that’s definitely a

491
00:28:59,208 –> 00:29:03,000
huge evil in this country.
Yeah, but also man, man, this

492
00:29:03,000 –> 00:29:05,500
would be a good movie.
This would be a really good

493
00:29:05,500 –> 00:29:07,500
movie.
It would be like just have just

494
00:29:07,500 –> 00:29:10,700
with her.
And yeah, I can see that being

495
00:29:10,900 –> 00:29:13,400
like, there’s no it’s not
brought up in any of this but

496
00:29:13,400 –> 00:29:17,000
what if that that It’s her whole
evil villain.

497
00:29:17,000 –> 00:29:19,200
Origin story, is this insurance
company?

498
00:29:19,200 –> 00:29:23,200
Fucked me over?
So I became a lawyer and I fuck

499
00:29:23,200 –> 00:29:26,800
over insurance companies, right?
Like other fuck over insurance

500
00:29:26,800 –> 00:29:28,700
companies.
Where did this guy learn to

501
00:29:28,700 –> 00:29:30,200
drive like this?
Otherwise?

502
00:29:30,400 –> 00:29:33,700
Right now, I will in also like
not only fucking over insurance

503
00:29:33,700 –> 00:29:36,700
companies but she specific
they’re specifically targeting

504
00:29:36,700 –> 00:29:40,300
trucks which you know, have
corporate insurance.

505
00:29:40,300 –> 00:29:46,700
So yes exclusively so you’re not
hurting a Virtual really and

506
00:29:46,700 –> 00:29:49,800
it’s easy to see how, you know,
if you want to apply a little

507
00:29:49,800 –> 00:29:52,700
bit of creative writing to, it’s
very easy to connect the dots

508
00:29:52,700 –> 00:29:56,900
and make it seem like, oh yeah
like it, see it makes sense.

509
00:29:56,900 –> 00:30:00,400
How this could spiral out of
control like once people start

510
00:30:00,400 –> 00:30:02,800
getting a taste of the kind of
money that they could make on

511
00:30:02,800 –> 00:30:05,900
it, right?
And yeah if he’s like if he’s

512
00:30:05,900 –> 00:30:10,100
patient zero in this, if he’s
the first person who was taught

513
00:30:10,200 –> 00:30:14,300
how to do this, like yeah he’s
going to have a whole lot to

514
00:30:14,300 –> 00:30:15,700
say.
Say about it, huh?

515
00:30:15,900 –> 00:30:19,700
Any number of people involved in
this probably would have want

516
00:30:19,700 –> 00:30:23,700
him dead but so far no
developments in the

517
00:30:23,700 –> 00:30:26,900
investigation into Cornelius,
Garrison’s murder.

518
00:30:27,100 –> 00:30:31,100
But by the time, he had been
killed Damien LeBeau had already

519
00:30:31,100 –> 00:30:36,100
been arrested and charged and
convicted and in court, he shed

520
00:30:36,100 –> 00:30:39,300
a little more light on how the
fraud scheme worked in his role

521
00:30:39,300 –> 00:30:41,600
in it.
He initially started working

522
00:30:41,700 –> 00:30:45,500
with local law firms as a runner
and those People who refer

523
00:30:45,500 –> 00:30:48,200
actual car crash victims to
injury attorneys.

524
00:30:48,500 –> 00:30:52,200
That’s supposed to be illegal
but it is actually very very

525
00:30:52,200 –> 00:30:54,400
common.
I knew a guy when I was growing

526
00:30:54,400 –> 00:30:57,800
up in Illinois I knew a guy who
did that for money.

527
00:30:57,900 –> 00:31:01,100
Yeah and I mean I guess this
it’s a living.

528
00:31:01,300 –> 00:31:05,700
Yeah I mean I’m not surprised
that it happens like lawyers

529
00:31:05,700 –> 00:31:08,800
need referrals like any other
business so he would get a

530
00:31:08,808 –> 00:31:12,700
thousand dollars for passengers
and big rigs and 500 for

531
00:31:12,700 –> 00:31:15,300
passengers in any other.
Vehicle.

532
00:31:15,500 –> 00:31:21,000
And it seems like maybe he
started staging accidents on his

533
00:31:21,100 –> 00:31:26,300
own without Danny Keating, the
lawyer, knowing about it at

534
00:31:26,300 –> 00:31:28,600
first, right?
But it also seems like when

535
00:31:28,600 –> 00:31:31,400
Danny Keating found out about it
he was like oh fuck.

536
00:31:31,400 –> 00:31:35,600
Yeah let’s do this.
Well yeah because like labo is

537
00:31:35,600 –> 00:31:39,300
probably you have to imagine
he’s staging these car accidents

538
00:31:39,300 –> 00:31:44,100
in order to get the referral
money and so it’s very easy for

539
00:31:44,100 –> 00:31:45,700
Danny.
Eating to see that and be like,

540
00:31:45,700 –> 00:31:50,800
well I mean I could pay this guy
twice, what he’s making for

541
00:31:50,800 –> 00:31:56,400
referrals to just do this, and
then I’ll make way more than

542
00:31:56,400 –> 00:32:02,200
that on the Winds of the cases.
Like, it’s kind of makes sense.

543
00:32:02,300 –> 00:32:07,000
Yeah, there is an Apple TV +
documentary called the big con,

544
00:32:07,400 –> 00:32:10,900
which strikes me as kind of
similar to this in that.

545
00:32:10,900 –> 00:32:13,600
It feels sort of like a
victimless crime, but what was

546
00:32:13,600 –> 00:32:16,000
happening there?
This lawyer, I believe he’s in

547
00:32:16,000 –> 00:32:19,300
like the Appalachia area, like
extreme poverty.

548
00:32:19,300 –> 00:32:22,800
He was basically conspiring with
a judge to get people’s

549
00:32:22,800 –> 00:32:27,000
disability claims approved.
So I would get disability from

550
00:32:27,000 –> 00:32:30,700
the state whether they actually
had any conditions that

551
00:32:30,700 –> 00:32:35,500
warranted it or not and he
portrayed it as kind of a Robin

552
00:32:35,500 –> 00:32:38,000
Hood thing where it was like,
well, there’s no other

553
00:32:38,000 –> 00:32:40,800
opportunities here for people.
Like, yeah, I’m breaking the

554
00:32:40,800 –> 00:32:43,500
law, but I’m breaking the law in
the good way.

555
00:32:43,900 –> 00:32:46,600
I mean.
Look as someone who just got

556
00:32:46,600 –> 00:32:50,000
denied and is currently in an
appeal process for disability,

557
00:32:50,100 –> 00:32:53,700
kind of would like to have
someone like that on my side and

558
00:32:53,700 –> 00:32:55,800
I have an attorney working for
me.

559
00:32:56,000 –> 00:32:58,300
Yeah.
And like, I still would love to

560
00:32:58,300 –> 00:33:01,100
have someone who’s willing to be
a little bit of a Robin Hood and

561
00:33:01,100 –> 00:33:04,000
help push this thing through
because it’s a pain in the ass.

562
00:33:04,000 –> 00:33:07,400
Yeah, the only problem is, once
he was found out all the state

563
00:33:07,400 –> 00:33:11,800
did was strip, everyone who had
ever gone through a, to get

564
00:33:11,800 –> 00:33:15,600
their benefits approved, they
had them Them stripped of those

565
00:33:15,600 –> 00:33:17,600
benefits.
And here’s the thing because he

566
00:33:17,600 –> 00:33:20,400
was so prominent.
And so public in advertising

567
00:33:20,600 –> 00:33:24,200
people with legitimate,
disabilities would go tonight to

568
00:33:24,200 –> 00:33:27,100
get there and he would still
just go through that bullshit

569
00:33:27,100 –> 00:33:30,200
fraudulent system to do it.
So those people got stripped of

570
00:33:30,200 –> 00:33:32,300
their benefit and also it.
Yeah.

571
00:33:32,300 –> 00:33:37,500
Ends up being just a fucking
tragic and heroin story like

572
00:33:37,700 –> 00:33:39,300
that’s the thing.
Like the truth.

573
00:33:39,300 –> 00:33:42,400
The villain of that story is the
government.

574
00:33:42,500 –> 00:33:45,700
Yeah.
Not like they Like, just fucking

575
00:33:45,700 –> 00:33:48,000
give people money.
You’re that’s acceptable.

576
00:33:48,000 –> 00:33:51,300
Yeah, that’s that’s kind of how
that documentary ends with the

577
00:33:51,300 –> 00:33:52,700
government.
Absolutely.

578
00:33:52,700 –> 00:33:56,200
Being the villain in the yes.
100%.

579
00:33:56,300 –> 00:33:59,900
But yeah, this feels kind of
similar where this lawyer is.

580
00:34:00,000 –> 00:34:05,700
You know, it’s New Orleans is a
high poverty area and you know I

581
00:34:05,700 –> 00:34:09,800
guess this is a quick way to
make money but yeah my God it’s

582
00:34:09,800 –> 00:34:12,300
dangerous.
If they hit if they hit.

583
00:34:12,300 –> 00:34:14,100
Well, well well this is
something we’ll talk about

584
00:34:14,100 –> 00:34:16,699
later.
Like if they just put a little

585
00:34:16,699 –> 00:34:20,600
bit of extra thought into this,
really, I wouldn’t have much

586
00:34:20,600 –> 00:34:24,500
problem with it.
It’s just kind of some of the

587
00:34:24,500 –> 00:34:27,500
blind spots.
Make it become unsavory.

588
00:34:27,699 –> 00:34:30,000
Yeah.
So it’s that damn cigar bridge

589
00:34:30,000 –> 00:34:34,199
video that brings Damien LeBeau
down and then the dominoes just

590
00:34:34,199 –> 00:34:36,300
kind of start falling from their
Daniel.

591
00:34:36,300 –> 00:34:40,600
Keating was finally indicted for
his role in November twenty

592
00:34:40,600 –> 00:34:42,699
twenty.
He’s the lawyer by this point

593
00:34:42,699 –> 00:34:46,199
the investigation had expanded
to Glued five indictments and a

594
00:34:46,207 –> 00:34:49,900
total of 33 people charged.
And even though we’ve named

595
00:34:49,900 –> 00:34:53,100
three so far, this was the first
time any of the lawyers in the

596
00:34:53,100 –> 00:34:55,600
indictments were officially
named right.

597
00:34:55,699 –> 00:34:59,400
And, this is also, when speaking
of official names, this is the

598
00:34:59,400 –> 00:35:03,600
point where the government kind
of takes over and calls this

599
00:35:03,800 –> 00:35:06,700
operation Sideswipe.
And the justice department

600
00:35:06,700 –> 00:35:11,000
starts investigating this in
full and good name.

601
00:35:11,100 –> 00:35:14,000
It is Operation sideswipe, it’s
appropriate.

602
00:35:14,100 –> 00:35:16,600
It’s that Like it’s not enough
using you, get why it’s called

603
00:35:16,600 –> 00:35:18,600
that.
Absolutely and it really well

604
00:35:18,600 –> 00:35:21,900
done.
Louisiana Department of Justice.

605
00:35:22,100 –> 00:35:24,000
Yeah.
How often are we going to say

606
00:35:24,000 –> 00:35:25,500
that?
On this podcast?

607
00:35:26,100 –> 00:35:32,000
You I would imagine never again.
So I love this part when Keating

608
00:35:32,000 –> 00:35:34,900
and LeBeau, this came out in
court, when Daniel Keating,

609
00:35:34,900 –> 00:35:38,200
finally plead guilty.
Yeah, they would communicate via

610
00:35:38,200 –> 00:35:42,500
text using coded language.
Yeah, that made it seem like

611
00:35:42,500 –> 00:35:46,100
they were talking about fish.
And I actually found a very

612
00:35:46,100 –> 00:35:49,600
brief transcript of text
exchange.

613
00:35:50,200 –> 00:35:54,200
Here goes this is Damien LeBeau.
You want some more fish today

614
00:35:54,200 –> 00:35:57,400
for lunch, bro.
That’s two exclamation points

615
00:35:57,400 –> 00:35:59,400
today.
Spelled the number 2.

616
00:35:59,400 –> 00:36:01,700
D y.
And then for and of course the

617
00:36:01,700 –> 00:36:02,900
number four.
Yeah.

618
00:36:02,900 –> 00:36:04,200
To D is 2.
D.

619
00:36:04,200 –> 00:36:06,500
Is a fun one.
That’s, that’s a fun way to

620
00:36:06,500 –> 00:36:10,300
spell that.
Also like that’s a question and

621
00:36:10,300 –> 00:36:14,300
there’s only only exclamation
points, he’s really stoked and

622
00:36:14,400 –> 00:36:18,500
Also, he spelled out y OU, but
use the a number 444.

623
00:36:18,500 –> 00:36:21,400
Why not?
Just do a, you Duty and for you

624
00:36:21,400 –> 00:36:22,400
there?
Yeah.

625
00:36:22,500 –> 00:36:24,300
Like why are there any vowels in
this?

626
00:36:24,600 –> 00:36:27,900
Honestly, it’s this guy made a
free time so then Keating

627
00:36:27,900 –> 00:36:30,900
replies.
Okay, I need to catch my breath

628
00:36:30,900 –> 00:36:32,400
after today.
Money.

629
00:36:32,400 –> 00:36:35,600
Not the issue processing.
The catch is the problem.

630
00:36:35,900 –> 00:36:38,000
Here’s the thing.
One of these two knows how to

631
00:36:38,000 –> 00:36:40,200
use coded language in a text,
right?

632
00:36:40,200 –> 00:36:45,600
And it is not Daniel Keating.
Yeah, he Yeah, they’re he’s like

633
00:36:45,600 –> 00:36:49,300
labo, maybe has a little bit
more experience with this sort

634
00:36:49,300 –> 00:36:51,100
of thing.
Yeah.

635
00:36:51,400 –> 00:36:53,800
That is such a clumsy fucking
reply.

636
00:36:54,400 –> 00:36:58,900
It’s also like such a fucking
Boomer texts.

637
00:36:59,800 –> 00:37:02,100
Perfect.
That’s how I text just, I

638
00:37:02,100 –> 00:37:05,000
believe how IC dances
punctuation?

639
00:37:05,200 –> 00:37:11,500
I’ve had to, I had to train
myself to not always use

640
00:37:11,600 –> 00:37:13,900
perfect, grammar and punctuation
attacks.

641
00:37:14,000 –> 00:37:18,200
Like Because I realize do people
find that alienating and

642
00:37:18,200 –> 00:37:22,200
off-putting if I and I’m like
okay well then I guess all word

643
00:37:22,200 –> 00:37:25,400
about this text like a normal
person.

644
00:37:25,400 –> 00:37:28,000
It is crazy.
How much thought people put into

645
00:37:28,000 –> 00:37:30,900
that?
I saw a guy on Facebook years

646
00:37:30,900 –> 00:37:34,000
ago it was like just barely a
friend of mine but he was

647
00:37:34,000 –> 00:37:38,200
texting with someone about a job
interview and they wrote back

648
00:37:38,200 –> 00:37:41,300
and they said something like
okay interview confirmed for

649
00:37:41,300 –> 00:37:43,700
3:30 and they put a period at
the end.

650
00:37:43,800 –> 00:37:46,200
Yeah.
This fucking psycho texted them

651
00:37:46,200 –> 00:37:50,600
back and asked why they put a
period at the end and if he did

652
00:37:50,600 –> 00:37:54,900
something wrong and then posted
it on Facebook as if that was

653
00:37:54,900 –> 00:37:57,900
the proper response to that
situation.

654
00:37:57,900 –> 00:38:02,200
It’s like to one line.
Yes my God.

655
00:38:02,200 –> 00:38:04,500
So yeah.
Besides I wish I could read all

656
00:38:04,500 –> 00:38:06,800
of their texts.
Yeah I would love it.

657
00:38:06,800 –> 00:38:09,500
We should just do a whole bonus
episodes.

658
00:38:09,500 –> 00:38:12,700
That’s just us reenacting their
text chain.

659
00:38:13,100 –> 00:38:14,000
I do.
You’re right.

660
00:38:14,000 –> 00:38:16,500
I do To see this movie though,
it needs to happen.

661
00:38:16,500 –> 00:38:19,300
It would be good if it would be
like a good.

662
00:38:19,400 –> 00:38:22,800
Like it would be like a little
Coen Brothers, easy, but it was

663
00:38:22,800 –> 00:38:26,000
also be like Coen Brothers,
doing Fast and Furious but then

664
00:38:26,000 –> 00:38:29,200
also like a little bit of Logan.
Lucky you ever see the Logan?

665
00:38:29,200 –> 00:38:32,800
Yeah, I like smoking lucky a lot
fucking rules.

666
00:38:34,200 –> 00:38:38,100
So Daniel keating’s role in this
scheme?

667
00:38:38,400 –> 00:38:43,100
On top of being the lawyer who
represented most of the victims.

668
00:38:43,300 –> 00:38:47,900
He also referred Victims out to
various unnecessary Medical

669
00:38:47,900 –> 00:38:50,700
Treatments to boost the eventual
payments.

670
00:38:50,900 –> 00:38:53,700
Yeah.
One participant, underwent a

671
00:38:53,700 –> 00:38:57,100
completely unneeded neck
surgery, in the name of

672
00:38:57,100 –> 00:39:01,300
successes Archer, insurance
payout and I think that speaks

673
00:39:01,300 –> 00:39:05,100
to like, there’s some level of
desperation here.

674
00:39:05,200 –> 00:39:09,000
Yes.
Because you can die having

675
00:39:09,000 –> 00:39:11,600
surgery.
They tell you this at the

676
00:39:11,600 –> 00:39:14,200
beginning, especially if you
need anesthesia.

677
00:39:14,500 –> 00:39:19,000
They’re like you might die.
You might never wake up or at

678
00:39:19,000 –> 00:39:21,800
least have life-altering
complications.

679
00:39:21,800 –> 00:39:25,300
Yeah.
Or even if it goes well, like

680
00:39:25,400 –> 00:39:27,600
you might feel a little have to
take care of it.

681
00:39:27,600 –> 00:39:31,300
Like, it’s just a nightmare and
that’s where really like the

682
00:39:31,300 –> 00:39:33,900
moral ground kind.
They kind of seed the moral

683
00:39:33,900 –> 00:39:37,200
ground when they start like
coercing.

684
00:39:37,200 –> 00:39:41,000
People into having unnecessary
surgeries that’s bad.

685
00:39:41,000 –> 00:39:42,900
Some really evil shit right
there.

686
00:39:42,900 –> 00:39:45,400
That’s, that’s not good.
Shouldn’t be doing that.

687
00:39:45,500 –> 00:39:50,000
Now, we can make it funny in the
movie but like in real life.

688
00:39:50,500 –> 00:39:53,700
Yeah, when we write the script,
this will go down partner.

689
00:39:53,800 –> 00:39:56,600
So yeah, this indictment, he’s
named in it, mentions seven

690
00:39:56,600 –> 00:40:00,800
defendants who received
unnecessary surgery and another

691
00:40:00,800 –> 00:40:05,000
17 who underwent various Medical
Treatments that they didn’t

692
00:40:05,000 –> 00:40:07,700
need.
And I like that indictment only

693
00:40:07,700 –> 00:40:12,000
covered five of the dozens of
staged crashes, but in those

694
00:40:12,000 –> 00:40:15,600
cases alone, he and his
co-conspirators Uh, sir, can he

695
00:40:15,600 –> 00:40:20,000
and his co-conspirators netted
around 1.5 million dollars?

696
00:40:21,100 –> 00:40:24,500
You know, what they should have
done is bring in a few doctors

697
00:40:24,700 –> 00:40:29,100
into the scheme and have the
doctors, you know, do a rotation

698
00:40:29,300 –> 00:40:32,900
of, you know, phony medical
write-ups and shit.

699
00:40:33,100 –> 00:40:37,500
Like just keep the whole like
white white Farm any of it

700
00:40:37,500 –> 00:40:39,500
outside of your little
ecosystem.

701
00:40:39,500 –> 00:40:42,800
You’ve already got the lawyers,
you’ve got the victims, all on

702
00:40:42,800 –> 00:40:45,300
the same side, like, so.
Doctors in there.

703
00:40:45,400 –> 00:40:47,900
I bet they did.
I wonder if it just because this

704
00:40:47,900 –> 00:40:50,400
is still an ongoing
investigation.

705
00:40:50,400 –> 00:40:53,900
Yeah so I feel like if they did
they wouldn’t be faking

706
00:40:53,900 –> 00:40:56,600
surgeries.
Yeah, that’s true.

707
00:40:56,700 –> 00:41:01,700
So in June 20, 21 Keating
becomes the first lawyer to

708
00:41:01,700 –> 00:41:03,900
plead guilty in the staged
crashes.

709
00:41:04,100 –> 00:41:06,400
At that time.
He acknowledged that he paid

710
00:41:06,400 –> 00:41:11,600
LeBeau. 431 staged accidents in
two tractor trailers and also

711
00:41:11,600 –> 00:41:14,200
came out around this time that
another New Orleans Law Firm.

712
00:41:14,300 –> 00:41:19,100
The king firm and three of their
internees were also involved.

713
00:41:19,100 –> 00:41:21,800
And by that point, the
investigation had expanded to

714
00:41:21,800 –> 00:41:29,900
include 150 staged, crashes all
in one little stretch of Eastern

715
00:41:29,900 –> 00:41:33,300
New Orleans.
That, again, that’s just a

716
00:41:33,300 –> 00:41:37,300
mistake you once you guys get
past like a couple dozen.

717
00:41:37,300 –> 00:41:42,400
You should start realizing that
maybe we yeah we need to expand.

718
00:41:42,600 –> 00:41:47,400
Why not like Road.
Bit, like go see every major

719
00:41:47,400 –> 00:41:51,000
league baseball stadium and when
you’re in each New Town stage, a

720
00:41:51,000 –> 00:41:55,200
car accident and file a lawsuit,
it would be exponentially more

721
00:41:55,200 –> 00:42:00,700
difficult to do it outside of
Louisiana because I have to

722
00:42:00,700 –> 00:42:06,300
assume that these lawyers are
only licensed to practice law in

723
00:42:06,300 –> 00:42:11,000
Louisiana, right through.
So I feel like that would make

724
00:42:11,000 –> 00:42:13,700
things a little harder but they
could at least go around

725
00:42:13,700 –> 00:42:15,000
Louisiana.
See Hannah.

726
00:42:15,400 –> 00:42:18,800
Hi kiddo.
There’s a, it’s not a huge state

727
00:42:18,800 –> 00:42:21,300
but there’s room.
There’s more than one fucking

728
00:42:21,300 –> 00:42:25,600
highway and that’s so yeah.
Did you not even try to drive to

729
00:42:25,600 –> 00:42:28,900
Baton Rouge?
Not at least Baton Rouge.

730
00:42:28,900 –> 00:42:33,300
Maybe take a swing through
Lafayette, or we know the names

731
00:42:33,300 –> 00:42:36,600
of towns and Warren.
Yeah, you know, we take a, take

732
00:42:36,600 –> 00:42:41,500
a, take a, you know, take a job
and Banton make sure you watch

733
00:42:41,500 –> 00:42:44,200
out for the vampires struggling
Marrero.

734
00:42:44,700 –> 00:42:47,900
I know that’s Marrero Marrero.
That’s a place in Louisiana.

735
00:42:48,200 –> 00:42:50,700
There’s an I thought you were
just stringing syllables

736
00:42:50,700 –> 00:42:53,800
together.
Now there’s a very terrible rap

737
00:42:53,800 –> 00:42:57,600
song by a guy named MC Thick,
and he was febrile rare.

738
00:42:57,600 –> 00:43:01,400
Oh, and I only know that because
a friend of mine briefly moved

739
00:43:01,400 –> 00:43:04,900
to Louisiana, when we were all
in high school and it only

740
00:43:04,900 –> 00:43:07,500
lasted, a couple months and he
came back and he had this

741
00:43:07,500 –> 00:43:11,200
cassette single of the song
called Marrero by MC Thick.

742
00:43:11,200 –> 00:43:14,900
And it was a very, very bad song
and we made Fun of him, for

743
00:43:14,900 –> 00:43:18,000
bringing it back home.
And at one point, we were all

744
00:43:18,000 –> 00:43:21,400
just out on the town driving in
the car, listening to music.

745
00:43:21,400 –> 00:43:24,000
And my friend Bree.
I’m scrap the tape out of the

746
00:43:24,000 –> 00:43:26,900
cassette player and put out the
fucking window.

747
00:43:28,500 –> 00:43:30,800
It’s one of the funniest things
I’ve ever seen happen.

748
00:43:31,200 –> 00:43:34,900
That is funny.
That’s how I know about Moreira.

749
00:43:34,900 –> 00:43:38,600
I worry this song though.
Sorry MC Thick sure you’re a

750
00:43:38,600 –> 00:43:40,800
great guy.
So anyway, I would not have been

751
00:43:40,800 –> 00:43:44,800
able to spell the name of that
town without Correct.

752
00:43:44,800 –> 00:43:47,100
So thank you Google.
Oh, I can because of the song,

753
00:43:47,100 –> 00:43:49,400
he spells it, of course.
Yeah, of course.

754
00:43:49,700 –> 00:43:53,800
So this song sucks, it’s bad.
So you see why it gotta shake.

755
00:43:53,800 –> 00:43:55,500
Do it correctly window?
Yeah.

756
00:43:55,600 –> 00:43:58,900
Cruisin down the street real
slow.

757
00:43:59,100 –> 00:44:02,200
What the fuck?
Yelling more rare?

758
00:44:02,200 –> 00:44:06,100
Oh, so after Keating gets
indicted from there, the

759
00:44:06,100 –> 00:44:10,300
indictments and guilty pleas
just start flowing in left and

760
00:44:10,300 –> 00:44:12,600
right.
One of the most shocking cases,

761
00:44:12,600 –> 00:44:16,900
I think is the case of Anthony
Robinson in Audrey Harris.

762
00:44:17,100 –> 00:44:20,100
They are a husband and wife
team.

763
00:44:20,200 –> 00:44:24,300
And at first, it sounds like
they’re being scammed because

764
00:44:24,300 –> 00:44:27,200
this was my first of all, the
articles I read.

765
00:44:27,200 –> 00:44:31,800
This was the first one that I
read where people were paying to

766
00:44:31,800 –> 00:44:35,600
be involved in this right.
Anthony Robinson and Audrey

767
00:44:35,600 –> 00:44:38,100
Harris.
Paid Damien LeBeau two thousand

768
00:44:38,100 –> 00:44:41,500
dollars for the honor of
participating.

769
00:44:41,500 –> 00:44:45,500
In one of these staged crashes
with their vehicle, And wild

770
00:44:45,900 –> 00:44:49,600
Robinson arranged for his wife
along with their daughter

771
00:44:49,600 –> 00:44:53,800
because she Robinson and a
neighbor Jerry, Schaefer to go

772
00:44:53,800 –> 00:44:57,000
for a ride in his vehicle.
And at one point during that

773
00:44:57,000 –> 00:45:02,400
ride he pulls over and a Slammer
name, Roderick Hickman jumps

774
00:45:02,400 –> 00:45:06,600
behind the wheel and almost
immediately causes a crash with

775
00:45:06,600 –> 00:45:10,600
an 18-wheeler, then he gets out,
he gets picked up from the scene

776
00:45:10,600 –> 00:45:13,900
by Damien.
Le beau and Robinson gets back

777
00:45:13,900 –> 00:45:16,400
behind The wheel, that’s how
most of the stage crashes

778
00:45:16,400 –> 00:45:19,100
worked.
So none of that is too shocking.

779
00:45:19,200 –> 00:45:24,200
What is shocking is the amount
of money, this one crash netted

780
00:45:24,300 –> 00:45:27,500
as a result of the various
claims the trucking and

781
00:45:27,500 –> 00:45:31,700
insurance company.
Paid out around four point seven

782
00:45:31,700 –> 00:45:34,700
million dollars to settle these
claims.

783
00:45:34,800 –> 00:45:37,100
That’s a line.
It’s a lot.

784
00:45:37,200 –> 00:45:40,100
It’s a lot.
It’s a lot for 2,000 down.

785
00:45:40,100 –> 00:45:42,200
Yeah.
That’s that’s a huge return on

786
00:45:42,200 –> 00:45:43,200
investment.
Yeah.

787
00:45:43,200 –> 00:45:46,600
Shit not.
That all because like yeah if

788
00:45:46,700 –> 00:45:50,300
you told me you were going to
turn that 200 or that 2000 into

789
00:45:50,300 –> 00:45:53,200
like 200,000, I’d be like yeah
let’s try it.

790
00:45:53,300 –> 00:45:56,600
Worth the risk.
Look for 27 million.

791
00:45:56,900 –> 00:46:01,000
The thing is like if it had, if
it was not coming at a time

792
00:46:01,000 –> 00:46:05,500
where these guys were kind of on
the back end of the scheme.

793
00:46:05,500 –> 00:46:08,200
If this was like early on, I’d
totally be down.

794
00:46:08,400 –> 00:46:11,200
Also seems like like, I was like
I was saying earlier, because I

795
00:46:11,207 –> 00:46:14,100
just seems like a good time
seems like a theme park ride.

796
00:46:14,200 –> 00:46:20,100
Like the, you know, it does, but
that money wasn’t as easily

797
00:46:20,100 –> 00:46:22,600
earned as it seems.
Because that’s the thing you see

798
00:46:22,600 –> 00:46:25,700
all these like hot Rich,
high-profile athletes.

799
00:46:25,700 –> 00:46:29,100
And you’re like well why is
LeBron James so much better at

800
00:46:29,100 –> 00:46:32,800
basketball than everyone else?
It’s because he puts in all that

801
00:46:32,800 –> 00:46:36,000
work, he puts in all the extra
work, he gets in the gym.

802
00:46:36,100 –> 00:46:40,600
He goes to practice early, he
does all the extra things and

803
00:46:40,600 –> 00:46:43,900
that’s what Anthony Robinson and
his wife did.

804
00:46:45,000 –> 00:46:48,000
All the extra stuff, and that’s
why they make money.

805
00:46:48,100 –> 00:46:52,200
Because Anthony Robinson.
And his wife, both underwent

806
00:46:52,200 –> 00:46:57,400
extensive neck and back.
Presumably also, pussy and crack

807
00:46:57,600 –> 00:47:03,200
surgeries to boost the amount of
their respective payouts.

808
00:47:03,300 –> 00:47:06,700
So that’s why their shit got up
to four point seven million.

809
00:47:06,900 –> 00:47:09,100
Yeah, they had, they shelled
out.

810
00:47:09,200 –> 00:47:12,700
They did the work they put in
the extra effort, they fought,

811
00:47:12,700 –> 00:47:16,000
they had the follow-through.
This Airy to really capitalize

812
00:47:16,000 –> 00:47:18,500
on this and then they got hit
with five million dollars.

813
00:47:18,500 –> 00:47:23,100
Restitution all for nothing.
That’s the part.

814
00:47:23,100 –> 00:47:25,500
You really want to avoid getting
caught.

815
00:47:25,500 –> 00:47:28,100
Yes.
Yeah, getting caught and then

816
00:47:28,100 –> 00:47:32,100
paying 300 Grand more than your
settlement.

817
00:47:32,500 –> 00:47:35,000
Yeah, this turned out to be a
better investment for the

818
00:47:35,000 –> 00:47:38,300
trucking company.
Unfortunately, and by that

819
00:47:38,300 –> 00:47:40,600
point, the number of people
charged in the scheme had

820
00:47:40,600 –> 00:47:43,800
climbed to 47.
Yeah, this is the thing I would

821
00:47:43,800 –> 00:47:48,200
be doing This like with maybe
like five people charged at the

822
00:47:48,200 –> 00:47:49,700
time.
Like, I don’t want to be getting

823
00:47:49,700 –> 00:47:53,000
into this when we’ve got 47
people charge.

824
00:47:53,100 –> 00:47:55,800
Yeah.
And I’m just going to say it.

825
00:47:55,800 –> 00:47:59,000
I think we’ve both kind of
hinted at it already leading up

826
00:47:59,000 –> 00:48:02,300
to this point, but this game
should still be going on.

827
00:48:02,400 –> 00:48:04,900
Like yeah, just for legal
reasons.

828
00:48:04,900 –> 00:48:07,900
I don’t want our massive legal
team getting on my back.

829
00:48:07,900 –> 00:48:12,900
So I will say not from a moral
standpoint like sure, insurance

830
00:48:12,900 –> 00:48:16,600
fraud cost people money.
Any allows people are poor like

831
00:48:16,600 –> 00:48:18,900
getting a driving without
insurance ticket.

832
00:48:18,900 –> 00:48:21,500
Can fucking ruin your life.
If you’re in the right

833
00:48:21,500 –> 00:48:25,200
situation, for it.
So sure for moral reasons, this

834
00:48:25,300 –> 00:48:28,300
is bad thing in it, right?
It should stop.

835
00:48:28,300 –> 00:48:31,400
But also fucks up like insurance
premiums and shit.

836
00:48:31,600 –> 00:48:35,700
Yeah, insurance premiums are set
based on loss experience of the

837
00:48:35,700 –> 00:48:39,300
insurance in that state so it
drives insurance rates up.

838
00:48:39,300 –> 00:48:42,300
So it’s not a victimless crime
by any stretch of the

839
00:48:42,300 –> 00:48:44,800
imagination.
But it also again, Should still

840
00:48:44,800 –> 00:48:48,200
be happening.
If they were slightly smarter,

841
00:48:48,300 –> 00:48:52,100
you have to imagine it would be
because they all it seems like

842
00:48:52,100 –> 00:48:57,200
all they really needed to do was
just not do all those crashes in

843
00:48:57,200 –> 00:49:01,400
that one same spot seems like
maybe that would have been a

844
00:49:01,408 –> 00:49:05,200
good idea.
Like you could even just confine

845
00:49:05,200 –> 00:49:09,200
it to Eastern New Orleans I
guess like sure then it’s just

846
00:49:09,200 –> 00:49:11,900
going to kind of be an urban
legend that all of these

847
00:49:11,900 –> 00:49:14,300
accidents are happening.
That happening there a few You

848
00:49:14,400 –> 00:49:17,500
like, use a big enough group of
people, I guess, right.

849
00:49:17,500 –> 00:49:21,100
But but just even just spread it
out if you just, if they were a

850
00:49:21,100 –> 00:49:25,200
little bit more systematic about
it, if they came up with some

851
00:49:25,200 –> 00:49:29,600
sort of schedule that seemed
random enough from a cursory

852
00:49:29,600 –> 00:49:32,300
inspection.
So that like say, you know,

853
00:49:32,300 –> 00:49:35,200
today you do it on that one
Highway and tomorrow, you’re

854
00:49:35,200 –> 00:49:38,500
like on the other side of the
state and that’s where the next

855
00:49:38,500 –> 00:49:41,200
one is.
And then you go like North and

856
00:49:41,200 –> 00:49:44,100
then you go all the way down
towards new.

857
00:49:44,200 –> 00:49:49,300
Saying our very location enough
and it’s going to be a lot

858
00:49:49,300 –> 00:49:51,700
harder for people to figure out
what you’re doing.

859
00:49:51,800 –> 00:49:55,500
Yeah, I think it would have also
helped to enlist more witnesses.

860
00:49:55,800 –> 00:49:58,500
Like why did you hit me in le
beau have to be the witness so

861
00:49:58,500 –> 00:50:02,500
many times.
Like, yeah, and one less person

862
00:50:02,500 –> 00:50:07,200
file a lawsuit and have that
person be the witness switch it

863
00:50:07,200 –> 00:50:09,100
up.
Every time we’re just fixing

864
00:50:09,100 –> 00:50:10,500
this plan.
We should do this.

865
00:50:10,800 –> 00:50:13,900
I think that is my last note is
that we should try it.

866
00:50:16,200 –> 00:50:20,300
And it’s not just that all of
these crashes happened in

867
00:50:20,300 –> 00:50:22,800
Eastern New Orleans.
It’s not that all of them

868
00:50:22,800 –> 00:50:26,400
happen, along one, stretch of
road, but for a bunch of them.

869
00:50:26,500 –> 00:50:30,500
You can pinpoint it to one.
Travel Plaza, The Big Easy

870
00:50:30,500 –> 00:50:33,900
Travel Plaza, starting around
2015.

871
00:50:33,900 –> 00:50:37,600
That place just turns into the
Bermuda Triangle for truck

872
00:50:37,600 –> 00:50:42,400
drivers over the course of 13
months, at least 20 trucks were

873
00:50:42,400 –> 00:50:46,200
involved in staged.
Dance while traveling through

874
00:50:46,200 –> 00:50:50,300
that one area crazy.
This is a quote from Louisiana

875
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insurance, commissioner Jim
donnellan.

876
00:50:52,600 –> 00:50:56,300
It’s like how dumb can you be?
There’s lots of intersections

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00:50:56,300 –> 00:50:59,900
with 18-wheelers available to be
targeted without doing it at the

878
00:50:59,900 –> 00:51:02,600
same Corner over and over again
there.

879
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And I hope someone agree.
I hope somewhere the next young

880
00:51:07,200 –> 00:51:11,100
superstar in insurance fraud is
reading that and going.

881
00:51:11,800 –> 00:51:14,800
Yeah, it’s where they fucked up.
That’s that’s where Messed up.

882
00:51:14,800 –> 00:51:18,800
Yeah, if you’re listening just
think about it a little bit

883
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more.
And he also speaks to the fact

884
00:51:22,700 –> 00:51:26,800
that they were just very small
handful of lawyers involved in

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this, right.
And he says, because there’s not

886
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that many lawyers willing to do
this kind of stuff.

887
00:51:33,600 –> 00:51:38,000
It’s really, really crazy.
Yeah, fair this guy’s making

888
00:51:38,000 –> 00:51:40,700
lots of good points and he’s got
one more.

889
00:51:40,800 –> 00:51:45,200
I’ve never seen it at this large
of a scale with Ignorance in the

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way they operated in the same
vicinity with several of the

891
00:51:48,600 –> 00:51:51,600
same participants acting as
victims of these crashes.

892
00:51:51,800 –> 00:51:55,000
That’s, that’s what I’m saying.
They just needed a bigger group

893
00:51:55,000 –> 00:51:59,000
of people and to move around in
this could Seattle be happening.

894
00:51:59,200 –> 00:52:02,600
Why I think I imagine Jim
donnellan being played by like

895
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JK Simmons.
It is Burn.

896
00:52:04,800 –> 00:52:08,900
After Reading rule you know he’s
like what even is this?

897
00:52:08,900 –> 00:52:11,600
What is going on?
Why are you doing this?

898
00:52:12,300 –> 00:52:15,200
Yeah, we need this movie.
It’s Got to have, I would watch

899
00:52:15,200 –> 00:52:18,100
it, I would watch it.
What other present in somewhere,

900
00:52:18,100 –> 00:52:21,000
someone is listening to this,
and they have the connections to

901
00:52:21,000 –> 00:52:23,000
make that happen and they
probably already have.

902
00:52:23,000 –> 00:52:27,400
And we will see no Fame nor
Fortune from it, but that’s not

903
00:52:27,400 –> 00:52:29,200
why we’re is anybody listening
to this?

904
00:52:29,200 –> 00:52:31,200
Who has the connections to make
that happen?

905
00:52:31,300 –> 00:52:34,600
I would also like to direct it.
Yeah, about that.

906
00:52:34,600 –> 00:52:36,700
I would like, but me make a
booty please.

907
00:52:36,700 –> 00:52:42,300
I would enjoy being involved in
some capacity is he so just keep

908
00:52:42,300 –> 00:52:44,000
us in mind.
Yeah, you know, you’re a fan.

909
00:52:44,200 –> 00:52:46,700
The show, maybe be a fan, my
film career.

910
00:52:46,700 –> 00:52:50,400
Yeah, don’t be an asshole about
it if you’re a fan of the show.

911
00:52:50,600 –> 00:52:54,000
So that’s that’s kind of where
it sits right now.

912
00:52:54,000 –> 00:52:56,700
This is still an ongoing thing
again.

913
00:52:56,700 –> 00:53:01,500
The murder Cornelius Garrison
has not been solved, like I’m

914
00:53:01,500 –> 00:53:05,300
speculating, but I wouldn’t be
shocked if that shady husband

915
00:53:05,300 –> 00:53:07,800
and wife lawyer team connected
to him.

916
00:53:08,000 –> 00:53:11,200
Is maybe often that but that’s
just speculation on my part.

917
00:53:11,200 –> 00:53:16,100
I’m not accusing public citizens
of Murder on this podcast but I

918
00:53:16,100 –> 00:53:19,200
mean, poor Cornelius Garrison.
What a tough run.

919
00:53:19,200 –> 00:53:23,600
He had first, he was named
Cornelius, right in the 20th

920
00:53:23,600 –> 00:53:27,500
century and then he was killed.
That’s just sad.

921
00:53:27,500 –> 00:53:30,800
Very sad.
And so yeah, we’ll link to all

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00:53:30,800 –> 00:53:33,000
of this.
It’s the, it’s an ongoing story.

923
00:53:33,000 –> 00:53:35,700
Lots of people have gone to
prison for it.

924
00:53:35,900 –> 00:53:38,700
Lots of people have been
indicted, there are dozens, and

925
00:53:38,700 –> 00:53:43,600
dozens of links, you can read
all about it and I’m glad I

926
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five.
And wanting to do this episode

927
00:53:45,600 –> 00:53:48,700
for a long time.
It was really intimidating

928
00:53:48,700 –> 00:53:52,100
looking at all of those links
and having to put them in an

929
00:53:52,100 –> 00:53:55,400
order that made it.
So we could tell the story on

930
00:53:55,400 –> 00:53:57,900
the podcast.
So, yeah, there’s a lot of

931
00:53:58,100 –> 00:54:00,600
background, but fascinating
story.

932
00:54:00,600 –> 00:54:02,600
Yeah, I hope people enjoyed this
episode.

933
00:54:02,600 –> 00:54:05,900
I know it’s a little different
than what we normally do.

934
00:54:06,100 –> 00:54:08,400
Yeah, we’ve been doing this a
long time.

935
00:54:08,500 –> 00:54:11,900
Yeah, it’s true.
Can’t just all be adrenochrome.

936
00:54:12,200 –> 00:54:14,000
Sorry.
No.

937
00:54:14,100 –> 00:54:16,700
In Italy.
It’s not always adrenochrome for

938
00:54:16,700 –> 00:54:19,600
one thing.
I am running low on adrenochrome

939
00:54:19,800 –> 00:54:22,900
so, whoa, whoa, well you gotta
hook up, man.

940
00:54:22,900 –> 00:54:26,700
Come on, let me know we all got
a drum corps is.

941
00:54:26,700 –> 00:54:30,800
Of course, the main reason I
wouldn’t move back to the

942
00:54:30,808 –> 00:54:33,100
Midwest.
No adrenochrome know.

943
00:54:33,100 –> 00:54:37,000
It’s almost impossible II found
like a little vial on the street

944
00:54:37,000 –> 00:54:38,700
the other day.
That’s like all I’ve been able

945
00:54:38,700 –> 00:54:40,100
to find.
Yeah it’s a real.

946
00:54:40,100 –> 00:54:43,600
It’s a coastal Elite drug just
like powder cocaine, you know,

947
00:54:43,700 –> 00:54:47,800
true.
Is so do we have anything to

948
00:54:47,800 –> 00:54:52,400
plug before we get out of here?
I think so I mean, you know,

949
00:54:52,400 –> 00:54:54,900
going back our lost me.
Watch pod?

950
00:54:55,200 –> 00:54:58,400
Yeah, give that a listen.
You follow me on Twitter and

951
00:54:58,400 –> 00:55:01,000
Instagram, and Adam, Todd Brown.
It’s tied with one D.

952
00:55:01,200 –> 00:55:05,700
I’ll have some stuff to announce
soon and I think that’s it,

953
00:55:05,700 –> 00:55:07,500
right?
Hell yeah, let’s get out of

954
00:55:07,508 –> 00:55:09,400
here.
Olivia, say goodbye.

955
00:55:09,600 –> 00:55:11,700
I goodbye everybody.
We love you.

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00:55:17,000 –> 00:55:17,900
People of Earth.