Adam attempts to sell Kevin Casey White and Lizzy Cassidy from the Close Calls podcast on his theory that the attempted assassination of Ronald Reagan was actually an attempted coup by the CIA.
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Welcome to conspiracy the show.
The world’s most trusted
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conspiracy theory podcast with
your host, Adam Todd Brown and
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Olivia haydar
Hey everybody, Welcome to
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conspiracy the show.
I’m your host, Adam Todd Brown
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joining me as co-host today.
My favorite co-host of all know
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co-host, Olivia will be back
next week, but I do have a
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couple of guests.
Kevin Casey, white and Lizzie
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Cassidy from the close.
Calls podcast, how’s it going?
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Mmm, good man, good.
We’re gearing up for the
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holidays.
I think Lizzie spent the day
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trying to gift shop.
I did unsuccessfully.
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Today.
I had the last day of working
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before we go and break and I
just decided I’m not working
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today either.
So we had very different days.
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Yours was stressful.
Yeah, didn’t do shit mantid.
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And I do anything.
Today is awesome.
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Yeah.
How’s New York right now?
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Probably cold as shit, right.
It’s cold.
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It’s rainy.
It’s like in the 30s and it’s
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been raining.
For 23 days straight and it
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feels like it’s been two or
three weeks because it’s like,
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it will not rain.
For one day, the organs in the
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bombing sounds really bumming us
out house, beautiful.
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AA, beautiful.
As always, I mean it’s been a
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little cold.
It’s gotten down into the 40s
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and 50s and things.
I knew that was coming, Kevin
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and Lizzie hosts a podcast
already said, close calls.
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I was on it.
Recently, tell people what your
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podcast is about the podcast
about near-death experiences.
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So we do two kinds of episodes.
One is where it’s just the two
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of us.
And one of us research has some
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sort of crazy near-death
experience, story.
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IE, people getting stuck in a
volcano lost in the desert to
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ex-lovers getting lost in the
Amazon.
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Jean ruined it, see things like
that.
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Or we have our friends on other
Comedians and podcasters and we
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asked them about a time that
they almost died a lot of times.
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It’s people almost drowning
we’ve had some you know, organ
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transplant.
Medical issue called a medical
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miracle Miracles and we also had
a very disgusting one with you.
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Adam mine was horrific.
It was it was a body horror
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episode about I got a field of
boils under my armpit from using
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the wrong house of Old Spice
deodorant but yeah, that’ll get
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you bad times.
So go give that a listen if you
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want I tweeted about it or you
can just fucking look it up.
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You can find you’re listening to
this podcast.
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You can find podcasts.
Can’t find a pipe and also how
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yeah.
Be right.
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Your fans find us, you fucking
idiots.
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Oh, well yeah, welcome to this
podcast, that is The whole damn.
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Um, we’ve been hiding the
podcast from can find the
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podcast as can find it.
Have you been hiding it from
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your mom?
Oh, I hide everything from her.
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Come on.
I’m like, I say things on the
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podcast that you should.
Nobody should tell their mom,
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unless you have really fucked up
boundaries.
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So, you know, I don’t want to
listen to that.
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Yeah.
My some feedback though, she did
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give some feedback.
She said, I laugh into the
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microphone too much and that was
it.
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I found out at one point that my
Mom’s doctor was To my podcast.
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Even that I was like to close.
I don’t like that.
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Yeah stop.
But yeah I think I therapist
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both listen, which is nice.
Therapist told me he listens,
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you might get to that.
Feels like cheating as a
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therapist.
You shouldn’t yeah.
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Like the other teams Playbook
before they show up for the
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game.
Yeah, I kind of like it though
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because I only have an hour.
So I’m like you get caught up
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meet me back here and then we’ll
talk about.
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It’s true.
That’s true.
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And they said they liked Act it
but I think it would be even
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more an ethical to listen to it
and be like, you know, your
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podcast, is it really doing it
for me or to listen to it and
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not tell us?
Yeah, that would be weird.
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So I have been trying to record
a head a little bit so I can
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take some time off.
Maybe take a week off after
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Christmas and as such some of
our recent episodes have been a
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little bit different, normally I
bring very detailed notes.
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And relay whatever information
we’re talking about to the guest
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or host.
And I don’t have time for those
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meticulous notes with the way
I’ve been recording this week.
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So, just like the Paul McCartney
Is Dead episode with Kim crawl
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and next week’s episode with
Travis Clark about the hollow
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Moon.
We’re just kind of riffing
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today, not really riffing, but I
don’t have like really detailed
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notes to follow.
I’m just gonna lay one of my
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turret pet, conspiracy theories
on Kevin and Lizzie and see what
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kind of response I get.
What is, what’s your experience
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with conspiracy theories?
Either of you storm, the capital
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you’re on the East Coast
legally, I can’t discuss that.
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People keep asking us that.
Yeah.
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Is it our whole vibe my
experience with conspiracy
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theories you know I think
they’re your they’re easily
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dismissable and Near high at 2
a.m. and they all start to make
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sense.
No, no.
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I mean, yeah, I lost a couple of
friends to conspiracy theories
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but I think it’s just I think a
lot of people did when think way
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back 2016, Trump?
First got elected and people
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started picking sides hard for
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I had a couple people and I
think this is pretty common
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where people were starting to
get red, pilled really hard
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because of the way that they
were just on Reddit or whatever,
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going down like rabbit hole,
like I think all information
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should be taken in
consideration.
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Eddard totally fine with that
but I don’t know.
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Like it’s not written in stone
unless it’s proven.
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Right?
Some, I’m dead.
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Like a pretty skeptical person
for both sides.
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Yeah, I kind of agree.
I’m like, in this weird
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in-between space where I know a
lot of like, Dom white trash
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people who have believed
conspiracy theories that end up
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being like, anti-semitic and
racist and I’m like, well, your
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this is bad and wrong, but I’m
also the kind of person who like
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doesn’t trust the government.
Yes.
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I’m like some of It is probably,
they are lying to us but not in
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the way that you think they’re
lying has yeah.
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Like we’re for sure being hit
with a lot of propaganda and
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yeah like that.
Like I don’t even think it’s a
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conspiracy theory.
That’s well yes that’s just
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what’s going on.
Yeah, that’s the thing and I
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always say that’s kind of the
healthiest way to be like you
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absolutely cannot believe every
conspiracy theory.
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You that’s a terrible way to
live and also just statistically
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there’s no way every conspiracy
theory is true.
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But also when people are so
quick to just say, oh, Oh, I
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reject conspiracy theories.
In general.
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It’s like, you’ve trust the
government that much right?
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Yeah.
Like you really think the
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government never lies to you
about anything.
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Like the war in Iraq was kind of
a conspiracy theory.
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We went there on the grounds
that we were looking for weapons
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of mass destruction and we
obviously were not.
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So like in that way, that’s a
conspiracy theory too but I’m
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with you that there are also a
lot of conspiracy theories
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floating around.
Especially now that when you
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peel the layers of that onion,
Way.
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It just comes down to the Jews.
Yeah, sure does always bad
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times, that’s always bad time,
especially like Flat Earth
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stuff.
Anyhow, you went on stuff.
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Any lizard people stuff a lot of
UFO stuff now is getting into
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weird like a hybrid Bloodlines
and altered DNA stuff and that
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is just all going to end in
genocide someday.
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Yeah and so it’s like, where do
you draw the line?
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You know, like How do you do?
You gotta you gotta pick and
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choose and see how much of it is
based on implicit bias or?
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Yeah, that’s whatever.
That’s kind of what I’m up
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against with this podcast
because I try to make it a very
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objective conspiracy theory
podcast.
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We by no means believe every
conspiracy theory we talk about.
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That’s how I lose listeners is
by putting out of Sandy Hook
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episode and being like, you’re
all fucking dumb.
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This is stupid, and I think
that’s where you draw.
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The line is, like, Is it going
to hurt people to promote right?
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A conspiracy theory like this?
And I don’t know, I’d argue the
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one I’m pushing today isn’t
going to hurt average Americans.
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Yes, you sent us to notes.
This is actually a pretty
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playful one.
I like this.
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I’m glad you picked this one for
us.
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Yeah, me too.
It’s just me talking about CIA
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malfeasance and we know that’s a
thing that happens.
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What I like about this one is, I
mean, I’m sure a version of it
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exists out there but I feel like
this is kind of my own little
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pet Theory like I haven’t read
any books that point to this
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being the case, but it seems
like an obvious trajectory for
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me.
So I’ll just say it right up top
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and I’ve talked about this a
little bit on the podcast.
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People will know where I’m
going.
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I think the attempted
assassination of Ronald Reagan
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was actually a coup attempt by
the CIA.
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Hmm there’s a lot of reasons why
I think that but will travel
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back in time how familiar are
the two of you with it?
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How familiar is everyone with
MKUltra?
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I know that it’s the CIA giving
LSD to people unknowingly to see
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if they can use it as a truth
serum or something that’s
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basically the extent of what a
yeah that’s about all.
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I know two plus that’s the
scariest thing I’ve ever heard
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in my life.
Well what’s especially scary
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about.
It is first of all it was The
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result of Operation Paperclip,
which if you’re familiar with
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that, that was the government
program after WWII that brought
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like Nazi scientists and
researchers to the United States
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to work cool for us.
And one of the people they
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brought over was a Nazi, Doctor,
Who worked on.
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I mean, any Nazi doctor is a
concern.
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Like if you look into World War
2 and what the gnostics were
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doing, I would go so far as to
say, any Nazi is a concern.
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You know, I’m brave enough
personal, but I’m gonna cosign
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that with you.
Yeah, I also don’t care for
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doctors.
I don’t think the leeches thank
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you.
And we started this program
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called MKUltra that was
essentially a human
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experimentation program.
And the thing about it is, the
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argument today that you’ll get
from Skeptics is well, nothing
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ever came from it.
Like we didn’t like it’s not
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like we learned anything about
Out mind control and my push
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back against.
That is always one citation
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needed.
Like the government’s not going
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to come out and just tell you
and I think the thing that
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points to that maybe not being
the case is that MKUltra lasted
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for like 25 years.
Yeah.
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It was a decades-long program
that once we finally found out
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about it, it turned out it was a
thing that happened at hospitals
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and colleges all across the
United States in.
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Canada, like, for years and
years and years and years.
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And I just don’t know if the
government would pursue it that
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long in.
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Thing ever came of it.
I also think it’s kind of, its
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kind of crazy to me to say that,
just because an experiment
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didn’t work, doesn’t means it
didn’t happen, Anna, right?
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Like I have experimented with
all kinds of drugs on myself,
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and a lot of them didn’t work, a
lot of them ended up really bad
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but it still happened.
Yeah.
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I mean Definitely like fucked up
a lot of people’s entire life
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trajectory.
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So I it’s hard to dismiss of
like, well, nothing came of it.
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Unlike people should still be
held accountable.
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Plus I think you’re absolutely
right.
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Like if it goes on for 20 years
you don’t keep funding a proud
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program that’s not giving any
sort of results.
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Yeah.
So you know, put a little does a
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low dose and little bit of water
supply make it a little easier
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to get people to sign up for the
military.
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Who knows maybe, maybe maybe.
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One of the things I always point
to Skin in terms of it not
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working is like explain all
those assassinations in 60s like
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those weren’t normal.
They weren’t like political
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assassinations, it’s not like it
was one country, going out and
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assassinating.
The entire top level of the
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Progressive Movement in the
United States.
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It was all these people doing it
in like weird Catcher in the Rye
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fashion and coming out.
The other end being like I’m a
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patsy Man, I met a guy in a bar
and I think he did it and that’s
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one of the things that was
proposed about MKUltra was that?
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It was also like an
assassination program.
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Yeah.
And so, if none of it worked,
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why did that part work?
So, well name, something you say
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that’s not normal, was there?
An exorbitant amount of
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assassination attempts in the
60s, 70s versus other decades.
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I mean, if you think of the just
think about the Civil Rights
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Movement, there was JFK, it was
MLK.
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There was RFK.
The entire Black Panther
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Movement ends up Getting
infiltrated by the FBI Fred
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Hampton.
Was murdered in his fucking bed.
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Yeah yeah that’s yeah that’s a
in a lot of those cases like JFK
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there’s obviously a ton of
controversy around who actually
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did that MLK a thing that’s been
kind of lost to history.
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Is MLK’s family sued, the
government over his murder and
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they didn’t win in that the
government like came out and
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said, yes, you’re right.
Here’s A billion dollars to make
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up for your loss.
But the government did
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acknowledge that they were right
that there was probably some law
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enforcement and government
involvement in his murder and
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they were always adamant that
James.
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Earl Ray didn’t do it.
Like, once you hit like, the 80s
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MLK, his whole family was pretty
convinced that the man who was
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in prison, for it didn’t do it
and so it seems like MKUltra
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maybe worked a little bit.
We’re just not ever going to He
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told that obviously also RF K,
RF K is the weirdest one.
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Have either of you heard looked
into the RFK assassination at
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all.
I don’t remember the details.
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I now that’s what I know.
The least of all these of all
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that.
You know.
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It’s not like a top-five or for
me.
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Yeah, one of your favorites.
It’s the one, it’s the one that
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involves the most allegations of
Mind Control.
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Really.
He says, at the moment, the
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murder happened.
He walked in this kitchen, which
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is where RFK was shot?
And that this woman he’d been
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with spun him around and like,
tapped him on the forehead or
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something and upon him back
around and he said everything in
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the room looked like targets and
he just started shooting and
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believe that, or not like that.
Part Almost Doesn’t Matter.
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What’s really interesting about
RFK.
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There’s a History Channel
documentary from years and years
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and years ago, that you can
still find on YouTube.
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There’s a moment where a cop is
interviewing a witness to the
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RFK assassination, and he’s
asking him, what?
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Like, well how far away was
Sirhan Sirhan when he’s
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shooting.
And the guy is adamant that
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Sirhan Sirhan was in front of
him, and that they were like
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three to four feet away.
The guy keeps saying like the
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distance.
I am from you.
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That’s how far he was when he
was shooting, which is weird
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because Bobby Kennedy was killed
by a point-blank shot behind his
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right ear.
Mmm.
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So Sirhan Sirhan.
According to several witnesses,
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was never actually close enough
to Bobby, Kennedy to kill him or
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to fire.
The shot that actually killed
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him but something compelled him
to show up at that Beverly Hills
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Hotel that day and shoot at
Bobby Kennedy, if nothing else
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and then he obviously went to
prison for it and know who was
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this woman in the dress.
I mean, no one, no one.
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No.
I was like there was nobody in
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address in that room when it
happened there.
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Well, there’s pictures of a
woman in a polka dot dress.
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Mmm.
But no one knows exactly who it
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is or who he was talking about
and, you know, he’s still in
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prison over it.
So what I’m getting at is
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MKUltra seemed pretty real even
if like the government never
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came out and said yeah man, we
fucking learned how to program
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people to assassinate people.
It seems like maybe they did.
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You would think if I can play a
little you would think that they
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would pick people that are a
better aim though.
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You know.
I think that’s what they were
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banking on.
I don’t think Sirhan Sirhan, is
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the one who shot him.
I think the security guard who
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was walking him through that
kitchen, is the one who shot
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him, who was, right?
If you look into it, he was like
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a huge right winger and shit
like that.
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He was LAPD.
I know they don’t have a history
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of conspiring with the
government to commit violence to
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a press civil rights or
anything, right?
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I hear you saying it’s a Fall
Guy.
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It’s a pad seats the grassy
knoll.
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Hmm.
A little bit.
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Yeah come and weirdly I don’t
think that with Lee Harvey
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Oswald.
I do actually think Lee Harvey
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Oswald was the only gunman at
the JFK assassination.
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The only gunman trying to kill
JFK but that’s for another time
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so in yes stop me if you have
any questions or concerns or
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want to poke holes in my theory,
So that’s the 60s.
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The United States Post, WWII
through the 60s, were fucking
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with mind control left and
right.
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You should watch the documentary
wormwood, very fascinating.
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It’s about the CIA and LSD and
how they probably threw a guy
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out the window, because he was
going to tell our secrets about
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the Korean War.
That’s what we were doing in the
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60s, we were just fucking up
progressives.
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Shoving drugs down people’s
throats and then Watergate
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happens and with Watergate like
the CIA.
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And the intelligence Community
was just caught like, they were
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caught doing very bad things.
That’s a huge Scandal and that
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eventually leads to something
called The Church, committee
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hearings Church committee
hearings happened in 1975.
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They called it the year of
intelligence and it was
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basically the government taking
the American intelligence
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Community to task for all of
their abuse has that they’d been
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doing.
For decades up to this point
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among the things they uncover.
During that MKUltra comes out
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during that cointelpro which was
the FBI’s program of
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surveilling, civil rights.
Leaders Family Jewels which was
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a CIA assassination program
classic operation Mockingbird.
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Comes out which operation
Mockingbird was.
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The CIA sending people out to
Media, Outlets to try and
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influence writers and
journalists.
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Carl Bernstein wrote, a really
long article about it, in
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Rolling Stone in 1978.
And also project Shamrock that
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confirmed, the existence of the
NSA.
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The thing about the NSA is until
this happened until the church
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committee hearings, the NSA was
just like Myth, like they were a
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rumor and they’ve been around
since the 50s.
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So, the government kept
arguably, the biggest
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intelligence agency in the
United States, an entire fucking
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secret for like 25 years, which
I think speaks to all the other
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things, they could probably keep
secret over the 25 years,
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leading up to that and the NSA,
like they were so controversial,
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Frank Church would not name them
by name when he went on TV to
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talk about About the findings of
the church Committee hearing to
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the public.
He just basically said, like I
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have the quote written down, but
it’s, it’s so long, fuck it.
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I’m going to read it if this
government ever became a
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tyranny.
If a dictator ever took charge
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in this country, the
technological capacity that the
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intelligence Community has given
the government could enable it
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to impose total tyranny.
And there would be no way to
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fight back because the Careful
effort to combine together in
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resistance to the government.
No matter how privately it was
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done is within the reach of the
government to no.
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Such as the capability of this
technology.
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I don’t want to see this country
ever go across the bridge.
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I know the capacity that is
there to make tyranny total in
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America and we must see to it
that this agency and all
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agencies that possess this
technology, operate within the
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law and under proper
supervision.
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Supervision so that we never
cross over that Abyss.
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That is the abyss from which
there is no return.
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I gotta say but like these
conversations are still
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happening Homeland Security.
Sounds like the same thing, the
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Mockingbird thing clearly
happening.
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I mean so many movies and things
have already hit on this in
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regards to like how Fox News and
CNN and blah, blah, blah,
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conduct their business and
everything.
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And you know, like like what
happens Like this church
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committee goes in front of the
Senate and they go.
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All right, we’ll put in some new
laws but also, you know, it’s
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the people making the laws that
are breaking the like what
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there’s like nothing you’re
like, really do.
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Like we’ll put in some new laws
for the people who operate
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outside of the law to follow.
Like yeah.
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I know it sounds kind of grim
and backwards but I think that’s
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actually what makes this one of
the more lighthearted
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conspiracies because it’s like,
what the fuck am I going to do
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about the CIA like, right?
Am I going to bring Them to
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justice because I talked about
this on a podcast.
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It’s like this is just right?
This is where we’re heading.
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This was 1975.
When he was saying all of this
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and like think of the technology
we have now and how easy it is
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to keep tabs on us over there.
We’re already there.
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Yeah I’ve like fully given up on
that like I am young enough that
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I’ve always had access to the
internet pretty much and like a
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cellphone and stuff.
So I feel like I’m of the
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generation.
That’s like yeah, they’re
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watching everything.
I’m doing.
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And that’s the way it is.
Yeah.
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But it does help with those
targeted ads.
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It does make gift shopping a lot
easier.
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Yeah.
Get a lot.
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I mean every targeted ad I get
is something I want kind of
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nice, that kinda nice.
It’s rooms.
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Got my credit card saves, I can
just buy it is by shit.
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It’s one of those things where
like that’s it would be so nice
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if that’s where that technology
just ended if like yeah the
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internet came about that because
I fuck with a targeted ad really
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hard like hard dude.
Yeah.
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Yeah, I’m all for it but there
was a time when people were
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like, oh what?
They’re just going to use that
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to sell stuff to you.
And I used to be like try to
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figure out how to circumvent
that stuff for maybe if we’re
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just a couple of years and then
I realized wait a second they’re
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just offering things that I
know.
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I like yeah, what’s the harm in
that?
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Like when like since I became a
comedian I’ve liked made
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targeted ads.
Yeah, here’s an ad for my show.
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Here’s an ad for my podcast and
I’m like, give this to the
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people who are gonna love it.
I do.
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Somebody who hates comedy to see
this.
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I want the people who are going
to come to this to see this.
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Yeah yeah.
There are a lot of ways where
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the data that’s being collected
about us and that has been
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collected about us is I don’t
know if I want to say used for
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good but it’s not used for good.
It’s used for profit.
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He’s right.
Yeah, but it’s not used for
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murder of citizens or partly
even ring.
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Mind control or whatever it does
feel like mind control a little
436
00:24:35,600 –> 00:24:38,800
bit sometimes when like I’m on
Instagram and I get a targeted
437
00:24:38,800 –> 00:24:41,600
ad Instagram already has my
credit card saved, and I just
438
00:24:41,600 –> 00:24:44,700
buy it immediately and then I’m
like, why did I do that?
439
00:24:44,700 –> 00:24:46,300
Did you see the social
experiment?
440
00:24:46,500 –> 00:24:49,300
Yeah, yeah, they talk it.
We are being kind of mind
441
00:24:49,300 –> 00:24:50,800
control is the by things
actually.
442
00:24:50,800 –> 00:24:55,800
So the one example I bring up
all the time Facebook, at one
443
00:24:55,800 –> 00:25:01,400
point filed, for a patent for
technology that would measure
444
00:25:01,800 –> 00:25:05,900
how hard you typed, when you
send a text because then when
445
00:25:05,900 –> 00:25:08,900
you open the app, like if you
type the text like really fast
446
00:25:08,900 –> 00:25:11,600
and hard, They’re assume a no
way you’re angry.
447
00:25:11,700 –> 00:25:14,800
Let’s show you stuff that will
make you angrier and keep you on
448
00:25:14,800 –> 00:25:17,000
Facebook a while.
Wow.
449
00:25:17,000 –> 00:25:21,300
And that I would argue, I don’t
care what administration does
450
00:25:21,300 –> 00:25:22,900
it.
I don’t care who’s the president
451
00:25:22,900 –> 00:25:27,400
time, that shit needs to be
regulated out of social media.
452
00:25:27,400 –> 00:25:30,600
That that’s what that’s kind of
what we’re talking about here
453
00:25:30,600 –> 00:25:32,800
today.
That’s human experiment shit,
454
00:25:32,900 –> 00:25:36,800
it’s just we’re taking it on
willingly so it’s not as
455
00:25:36,800 –> 00:25:38,900
controversial anymore.
Yeah.
456
00:25:39,300 –> 00:25:41,800
It’s like Like, they’re even,
like little things that wig me
457
00:25:41,800 –> 00:25:46,000
out so much, like, when I decide
in my brain, that I have a crush
458
00:25:46,000 –> 00:25:48,800
on someone, and then every time
I open Instagram, their story is
459
00:25:48,800 –> 00:25:51,000
the first one there.
I’m like, yeah, how are you
460
00:25:51,000 –> 00:25:53,600
inside me right now?
How do you know about this?
461
00:25:53,700 –> 00:25:55,100
Yeah.
Yeah.
462
00:25:55,100 –> 00:25:56,700
But they’re not helping them get
inside you.
463
00:25:56,700 –> 00:25:58,300
And that’s the problem.
That’s the problem.
464
00:25:58,300 –> 00:25:59,900
That’s why I have a problem with
it.
465
00:25:59,900 –> 00:26:02,900
Yeah.
Also show them my thirst traps
466
00:26:02,900 –> 00:26:05,500
and it’ll be fine.
Get inside me.
467
00:26:06,400 –> 00:26:09,900
Yeah shit.
Like that is unsettling and No,
468
00:26:09,900 –> 00:26:13,900
speaking of having given up and
knowing that they’re already
469
00:26:13,900 –> 00:26:19,800
watching, I did an episode about
a book that came out in the 70s
470
00:26:19,800 –> 00:26:23,000
called the CIA and the cult of
intelligence and it’s actually
471
00:26:23,000 –> 00:26:27,000
the first book, the government,
ever went to court, to try and
472
00:26:27,000 –> 00:26:30,400
sensor, because it was just a
former CIA agent being like,
473
00:26:30,400 –> 00:26:33,500
listen, you’re not going to
believe what these motherfuckers
474
00:26:33,900 –> 00:26:35,400
are getting up to.
Wow.
475
00:26:35,600 –> 00:26:39,800
And one of the absolute
nightmare scenarios that he
476
00:26:39,800 –> 00:26:43,700
presented in that book was the
possibility that at some point.
477
00:26:43,700 –> 00:26:47,200
The US Postal Service would be
able to just take pictures of
478
00:26:47,200 –> 00:26:51,100
every piece of mail that comes
in in like now, that’s a thing.
479
00:26:51,100 –> 00:26:55,100
You just sign up for on USPS
website and they’ll fire off an
480
00:26:55,108 –> 00:26:57,400
email every day and say, Hey,
you lazy.
481
00:26:57,400 –> 00:26:59,100
Fuck, here’s what’s coming in
your mail today.
482
00:26:59,100 –> 00:27:02,500
If there’s nothing you want,
stay on the couch, like we just
483
00:27:02,800 –> 00:27:06,100
give that away now.
But there was a time where that,
484
00:27:06,200 –> 00:27:09,500
like even the idea of the
government having even that
485
00:27:09,800 –> 00:27:14,000
Level of access into our lives,
was like a horror story and now
486
00:27:14,000 –> 00:27:17,600
we’re just there and you know,
we still got the NFL, there’s
487
00:27:17,600 –> 00:27:19,700
still movies and shit so it’s
chill.
488
00:27:20,200 –> 00:27:24,000
It’s chill about.
Those are examples of intrusion
489
00:27:24,000 –> 00:27:28,900
being sold back to you as
convenience in the form of
490
00:27:28,900 –> 00:27:32,300
Sargodha ads or the male thing.
Or, you know, yeah, well, what
491
00:27:32,300 –> 00:27:34,700
happened after the church
committee?
492
00:27:35,100 –> 00:27:38,800
So, two things happen after the
church committee, I wanted to
493
00:27:38,800 –> 00:27:41,700
Blindside you with this one.
So, I did not put this in the
494
00:27:41,700 –> 00:27:45,000
notes at all.
Oh, Jonestown happens.
495
00:27:45,300 –> 00:27:49,900
Whoa, I have a ten-part podcast
series.
496
00:27:49,900 –> 00:27:55,000
It’s on this pod, but I did send
out us Odes about a book called
497
00:27:55,000 –> 00:28:01,200
was Jonestown a CIA medical
experiment no shit and it is
498
00:28:01,200 –> 00:28:05,200
pretty convincing in its
argument.
499
00:28:05,200 –> 00:28:09,600
That Jonestown is actually the
culmination.
500
00:28:09,700 –> 00:28:15,500
Shin of MKUltra because MKUltra
was essentially this
501
00:28:15,500 –> 00:28:19,800
decades-long medical experiment
where they’re trying to figure
502
00:28:19,800 –> 00:28:23,200
out like we know they were doing
something with psychiatric
503
00:28:23,200 –> 00:28:28,600
drugs, like there’s not a lot of
information about MKUltra
504
00:28:28,700 –> 00:28:31,800
because after Watergate the
government, just start shredding
505
00:28:31,800 –> 00:28:34,800
documents left and right.
And the only reason we found out
506
00:28:34,800 –> 00:28:40,900
about MKUltra, is someone filed
a box of like 20,000 documents
507
00:28:40,900 –> 00:28:44,800
in the wrong location and those
were eventually found and that’s
508
00:28:44,800 –> 00:28:46,800
how they came out during the
church committee.
509
00:28:46,800 –> 00:28:50,700
Hearings everything else about
MK Ultra has been shredded ins
510
00:28:50,700 –> 00:28:54,600
fucking gone forever but a box
fell off the back of a truck
511
00:28:54,700 –> 00:28:56,200
wink.
And now we got it.
512
00:28:56,200 –> 00:28:59,400
Yeah, it’s just got just got,
put in the wrong spot.
513
00:28:59,500 –> 00:29:02,800
So what we know about MKUltra is
it was this decades-long
514
00:29:02,800 –> 00:29:06,900
experiment where it seems like
the CIA is testing the
515
00:29:06,900 –> 00:29:09,600
effectiveness of different
psychological.
516
00:29:09,900 –> 00:29:13,200
Drugs.
And the next step in something
517
00:29:13,200 –> 00:29:15,800
like that, you have to do a
field experiment.
518
00:29:15,800 –> 00:29:18,800
Like, especially if you’re
working on like population
519
00:29:18,800 –> 00:29:22,500
control, mind control, anything
like that, you have to
520
00:29:22,500 –> 00:29:27,200
eventually expand Beyond.
Just testing it on one or two
521
00:29:27,200 –> 00:29:30,100
people at a time.
Eventually, you have to be able
522
00:29:30,100 –> 00:29:35,500
to test it on a group and the
argument people have made and
523
00:29:35,500 –> 00:29:37,900
it’s worth pointing out.
This was kind of a mainstream
524
00:29:37,900 –> 00:29:42,300
argument after Jonestown
happened because it’s fresh off
525
00:29:42,300 –> 00:29:47,500
the CIA being accused of all
this MKUltra shit, all this like
526
00:29:47,500 –> 00:29:52,100
actual human experimentation
shit and so Jonestown happens
527
00:29:52,300 –> 00:29:56,600
and like there’s actual senators
and things who wrote editorials
528
00:29:56,600 –> 00:29:59,700
In The New York Times who are
like, this feels like a CIA
529
00:29:59,700 –> 00:30:03,600
thing and if that was a
decades-long in hospitals, in
530
00:30:03,600 –> 00:30:07,100
colleges experiment, you have to
do a field experiment.
531
00:30:07,100 –> 00:30:11,200
Next, and if you look into what
happened, With Jonestown Jim
532
00:30:11,200 –> 00:30:16,200
Jones had so much access to
government resources in
533
00:30:16,200 –> 00:30:20,600
California when he was building
his Jonestown cold.
534
00:30:20,700 –> 00:30:25,100
They took over a mental hospital
in Northern California when he
535
00:30:25,100 –> 00:30:28,300
was building his cult.
If you look at his movements,
536
00:30:28,700 –> 00:30:31,900
he’s near Cuba.
When the Bay of Pigs happens,
537
00:30:32,200 –> 00:30:36,500
his movements kind of mirror
important things that were
538
00:30:36,500 –> 00:30:39,500
happening with people, like Jim
Jones at the time.
539
00:30:39,700 –> 00:30:43,100
Like these charismatic leaders
doing heinous shit.
540
00:30:43,100 –> 00:30:48,100
Jim Jones seems like he was
maybe that and I mean this book
541
00:30:48,100 –> 00:30:51,800
it’s fucking long as shit.
I did 10 episodes about it so
542
00:30:52,200 –> 00:30:55,800
like kind of bouncing around to
remember it all but so pause
543
00:30:55,800 –> 00:31:00,400
this.
Go listen to those in 10 hours.
544
00:31:01,400 –> 00:31:05,500
What’s interesting about
Jonestown is, there’s Jim Jones
545
00:31:05,600 –> 00:31:07,200
but then there’s the late and
family.
546
00:31:07,200 –> 00:31:11,400
Those were the people that ran
Jones Down and Jim Jones came
547
00:31:11,400 –> 00:31:14,800
from God knows where I mean
Indiana, huge race.
548
00:31:14,800 –> 00:31:17,200
You’re going to say came from
God and I was like, where are we
549
00:31:17,200 –> 00:31:20,100
going now?
He’s from Indiana.
550
00:31:20,600 –> 00:31:26,000
But the Leighton family were all
like scientists and researchers
551
00:31:26,000 –> 00:31:28,800
with connections to the
intelligence community.
552
00:31:28,800 –> 00:31:33,600
And when Jonestown starts really
unraveling the first survivors
553
00:31:33,600 –> 00:31:36,400
Who start coming out to tell the
story of what’s happening in
554
00:31:36,400 –> 00:31:38,300
Jonestown, are the late and
family.
555
00:31:38,300 –> 00:31:42,200
So those Like Deborah Layton is
probably most prominent
556
00:31:42,200 –> 00:31:47,400
Jonestown Survivor, she was like
the number two, at Jonestown.
557
00:31:47,500 –> 00:31:50,900
So it would be almost like if
Jim Jones himself came out and
558
00:31:50,900 –> 00:31:52,400
was like, wolf.
What’s happening?
559
00:31:52,400 –> 00:31:56,500
There is crazy man.
I want a yeah, like all of the
560
00:31:56,500 –> 00:32:00,800
people who did Jonestown are the
ones who emerge as the survivors
561
00:32:00,800 –> 00:32:05,100
of Jonestown, and so they get to
craft the story of what was
562
00:32:05,100 –> 00:32:08,000
happening in Jonestown at the
time, right?
563
00:32:08,000 –> 00:32:09,500
Yeah.
I’m gonna take this.
564
00:32:09,700 –> 00:32:12,100
A step further.
And then on top of there being a
565
00:32:12,100 –> 00:32:14,800
lot of assassinations around
that time you also don’t hear
566
00:32:14,800 –> 00:32:19,000
about Colts as much these days.
I like it is a secluded
567
00:32:19,000 –> 00:32:21,600
Community, you know?
Like like just like this jump.
568
00:32:21,600 –> 00:32:23,800
Something like there’s there are
a lot of Colts popping up back
569
00:32:23,800 –> 00:32:26,600
then.
And if you look into a lot of
570
00:32:26,600 –> 00:32:32,200
those Cults, like, have you
heard about the Sarah Lawrence
571
00:32:32,200 –> 00:32:35,600
College cult?
My name is not right because I
572
00:32:35,600 –> 00:32:37,600
feel like Sarah.
Lawrence is also an actor.
573
00:32:37,900 –> 00:32:40,300
Sir, Laurence is a college.
Yeah.
574
00:32:40,300 –> 00:32:44,500
Sarah Lawrence College sex cult
that fucking lucky.
575
00:32:46,800 –> 00:32:49,100
Let’s go right now.
Sarah seems cool.
576
00:32:49,100 –> 00:32:56,100
She’s it’s wildish it, this girl
moves into housing on campus
577
00:32:56,100 –> 00:33:01,100
with a bunch of her friends and
her dad shows up and her dad is
578
00:33:01,100 –> 00:33:04,300
this guy who shows up bragging
about having all these CIA
579
00:33:04,300 –> 00:33:09,400
connections and bragging about
how he can like do rituals.
580
00:33:09,600 –> 00:33:13,200
Like, you know, help people with
life skills, that will help them
581
00:33:13,200 –> 00:33:15,500
become better people and he
says, it’s all shit.
582
00:33:15,500 –> 00:33:19,000
He learned in the CIA and he
fucking flips her entire
583
00:33:19,000 –> 00:33:23,200
friendship group into a sex cult
in the span of like three
584
00:33:23,200 –> 00:33:25,100
months.
Whoa, thanks.
585
00:33:25,400 –> 00:33:30,100
And I feel like in my
conspiratorial heart, this is a
586
00:33:30,108 –> 00:33:32,000
thing.
I’ll never be able to prove.
587
00:33:32,100 –> 00:33:36,100
I feel like the reason that guy
like got caught and is going to
588
00:33:36,100 –> 00:33:39,400
prison for a long time is
because he took shit.
589
00:33:39,500 –> 00:33:43,900
He learns from the CIA and like,
not only applied it to
590
00:33:43,900 –> 00:33:47,900
civilians, but was like, really
loosey-goosey about it because,
591
00:33:47,900 –> 00:33:51,800
yeah, the things he claimed like
he would talk about how he had
592
00:33:51,800 –> 00:33:55,300
all these Connections in the
military and how like, even if
593
00:33:55,300 –> 00:33:57,700
he got in trouble, people come
bail him out.
594
00:33:57,800 –> 00:34:00,400
And if you look into his past
that happened, like there were
595
00:34:00,400 –> 00:34:04,200
points where it seemed like he
was in huge trouble and like,
596
00:34:04,200 –> 00:34:08,199
some government force of some
sort, just like intervened and
597
00:34:08,199 –> 00:34:12,300
got him out of it in this.
Time not so much and I think
598
00:34:12,300 –> 00:34:16,900
it’s because they public story
broke about this guy using CIA,
599
00:34:17,000 –> 00:34:20,199
basically I guess manipulation
techniques if we don’t want to
600
00:34:20,199 –> 00:34:25,800
call it mind control but it was
it’s a weird fucking story and
601
00:34:26,000 –> 00:34:28,400
your right to bring up Cults
because like the speculation
602
00:34:28,400 –> 00:34:32,800
around Cults is that when
MKUltra was found out and the
603
00:34:32,808 –> 00:34:35,000
church committee hearings happen
which the church committee
604
00:34:35,000 –> 00:34:38,300
hearings are also wear that
thing where the CIA can’t
605
00:34:38,300 –> 00:34:41,500
operate on.
Second soil comes from Mmm.
606
00:34:41,600 –> 00:34:44,199
Like, they’re not allowed to spy
on American citizens, which
607
00:34:44,699 –> 00:34:45,800
yeah, you know.
Yeah.
608
00:34:45,800 –> 00:34:48,100
Yeah.
It aloud and it also we have
609
00:34:48,100 –> 00:34:52,000
like 17 intelligence agencies.
So it’s like, just tell me which
610
00:34:52,000 –> 00:34:54,900
one it is.
Then that CIA.
611
00:34:55,000 –> 00:34:58,500
But, yeah, one of the
speculations is or one of the
612
00:34:58,508 –> 00:35:00,700
things people speculate about.
Don’t know, if I said that
613
00:35:00,700 –> 00:35:03,400
right, is that when they were
kind of ordered to break up
614
00:35:03,400 –> 00:35:05,300
MKUltra, they were like, all
right.
615
00:35:05,300 –> 00:35:09,100
We’ll just like, do it in Colts
and compounds in South America
616
00:35:09,100 –> 00:35:13,200
and Central America and shit.
And it’s I mean, some people
617
00:35:13,200 –> 00:35:16,800
believe that that is why Colts
in compounds like that start
618
00:35:16,800 –> 00:35:19,100
popping up at that point in
history.
619
00:35:19,100 –> 00:35:21,500
Mmm.
And in that case, Jonestown
620
00:35:21,800 –> 00:35:25,600
would fit the bill there.
And what’s interesting about
621
00:35:25,600 –> 00:35:28,400
Jonestown there is that
Congressional Delegation that
622
00:35:28,400 –> 00:35:31,900
went to Jonestown and a
congressman ends up getting
623
00:35:31,900 –> 00:35:35,200
killed like they almost got away
with that.
624
00:35:35,200 –> 00:35:38,700
Visit like if that Congressman
had just gotten on that plane
625
00:35:38,700 –> 00:35:41,600
and flown away.
Away, I think Jonestown would
626
00:35:41,600 –> 00:35:46,600
have carried on for a long time,
which is bad, because Jonestown
627
00:35:46,600 –> 00:35:50,300
was a slave compound.
Everything they say about that
628
00:35:50,300 –> 00:35:52,700
guy.
Being like, racially Progressive
629
00:35:52,700 –> 00:35:57,100
is an absolute lie.
He was a vehement racist and
630
00:35:57,100 –> 00:36:01,800
black people were enslaved at
Jonestown, and I think if that
631
00:36:01,800 –> 00:36:05,000
Congressional trip went better,
it would have carried on for a
632
00:36:05,000 –> 00:36:07,200
long time but instead, it didn’t
end.
633
00:36:07,200 –> 00:36:09,400
So if you can, you tell me more
about that.
634
00:36:09,600 –> 00:36:12,700
I didn’t know about that, that
they were slaves at Jonestown.
635
00:36:12,900 –> 00:36:16,500
That’s the thing.
The public face of Jim Jones is
636
00:36:16,500 –> 00:36:22,300
that he was like a civil rights
guy in that, he cared about the
637
00:36:22,300 –> 00:36:26,300
plight of black people, and it’s
like, the exact opposite.
638
00:36:26,300 –> 00:36:30,100
He was a vehement racist like
that part where people call him
639
00:36:30,100 –> 00:36:33,400
a civil rights Progressive.
I think has kind of Fallen away
640
00:36:33,600 –> 00:36:38,300
now, like people have sussed out
that that’s not what he was, one
641
00:36:38,300 –> 00:36:42,700
of the things.
He did when he was cultivating
642
00:36:42,700 –> 00:36:45,600
his cult.
One of the things he had access
643
00:36:45,600 –> 00:36:50,300
to somehow, one of a member of
the peoples, Temple was able to
644
00:36:50,300 –> 00:36:55,900
get a job at a welfare office in
California, and that person.
645
00:36:55,900 –> 00:36:58,700
And I think there were a few
people who got jobs in that
646
00:36:58,700 –> 00:37:03,100
department, those were the main
recruiters for Jonestown, they
647
00:37:03,100 –> 00:37:08,100
would get like the poorest
people like hmm, he wouldn’t
648
00:37:08,100 –> 00:37:12,600
like, go out into the D, people
would come to him, and they
649
00:37:12,600 –> 00:37:16,600
would take these people Social
Security checks in exchange for
650
00:37:16,600 –> 00:37:20,500
the promise of living, in this
Utopia called Jonestown where,
651
00:37:20,800 –> 00:37:22,300
you know, everything’s taken
care of.
652
00:37:22,300 –> 00:37:24,900
You don’t have to worry about
any bills and rent, but you just
653
00:37:24,900 –> 00:37:27,600
got to turn your money over to
us.
654
00:37:27,700 –> 00:37:32,300
And basically, everyone who
wasn’t white at Jonestown was
655
00:37:32,300 –> 00:37:37,400
that they were slaves.
And if you look into the deaths
656
00:37:37,400 –> 00:37:39,300
at Jonestown, that’s another
big.
657
00:37:39,500 –> 00:37:42,100
Misconception about it.
It’s always called a mass
658
00:37:42,100 –> 00:37:47,200
suicide at best.
It was a murder-suicide and it
659
00:37:47,200 –> 00:37:51,900
was mostly murder a good.
Majority of those people were
660
00:37:51,900 –> 00:37:54,100
shot.
They either were shot or they
661
00:37:54,100 –> 00:37:57,300
were injected with poison no
shit.
662
00:37:57,300 –> 00:38:02,500
The vast majority I think it’s
like 1:00 and 3:00 maybe was
663
00:38:03,100 –> 00:38:06,700
like actually drank the Kool-Aid
and they have audio recordings
664
00:38:06,700 –> 00:38:09,100
of all this shit.
It’s fucking horrific.
665
00:38:10,000 –> 00:38:13,600
But most of the people at
Jonestown were murdered, which
666
00:38:13,700 –> 00:38:18,400
doesn’t so much speak to them
being adherents of Jim Jones as
667
00:38:18,500 –> 00:38:23,100
it is victims of something else.
So that happens like shortly
668
00:38:23,100 –> 00:38:27,000
after the church committee
hearings have already brought
669
00:38:27,000 –> 00:38:29,200
all this heat on the CIA at this
point.
670
00:38:29,200 –> 00:38:32,600
The cia’s got a decade of heat
running and down on them.
671
00:38:32,700 –> 00:38:34,300
Hmm.
Also, by the way, it wasn’t
672
00:38:34,300 –> 00:38:37,000
Kool-Aid, it was Flavor Aid.
Yeah, and I just think that
673
00:38:37,000 –> 00:38:39,000
that’s means of Kool-Aid.
Me too.
674
00:38:39,800 –> 00:38:43,700
That sucks for Kool-Aid man.
This is yeah it’s up for flavor
675
00:38:43,700 –> 00:38:46,100
Aid or it’s good point because
there’s no such thing as bad
676
00:38:46,100 –> 00:38:48,500
press.
Yeah and we all know where we
677
00:38:48,500 –> 00:38:50,400
were going to remember Kool-Aid
anyway.
678
00:38:50,500 –> 00:38:55,000
Yeah, some people think I have a
conspiracy that Jonestown was
679
00:38:55,000 –> 00:38:59,000
the greatest viral marketing
campaign of all time that flavor
680
00:38:59,000 –> 00:39:04,000
Aid, put on and it backfired
backfired heart in a big way.
681
00:39:04,000 –> 00:39:07,900
Mmm possible.
So anyway leave a comment if you
682
00:39:07,900 –> 00:39:11,100
agree Michael Scribe.
All right.
683
00:39:13,800 –> 00:39:16,900
So yeah the CIA they got all
this heat on them and now here
684
00:39:16,900 –> 00:39:21,100
comes Jimmy Carter in the office
and Jimmy Carter, one of his
685
00:39:21,100 –> 00:39:25,100
tasks is to take all of the
things that the church committee
686
00:39:25,100 –> 00:39:30,200
came up with and Implement them.
Put them into action to like
687
00:39:30,200 –> 00:39:35,300
curtail the CIA a little bit and
so that happens like, Jimmy
688
00:39:35,300 –> 00:39:38,900
Carter does take office.
They end up having their
689
00:39:38,900 –> 00:39:42,900
capabilities in the United
States restricted, mmm.
690
00:39:43,100 –> 00:39:46,500
So, Then enter Ronald Reagan.
Ronald Reagan.
691
00:39:46,500 –> 00:39:49,700
Favorite Booth.
Love that guy.
692
00:39:49,700 –> 00:39:53,900
Yeah, I hate him so much.
Yeah, some so so much.
693
00:39:54,400 –> 00:39:58,000
I can’t he I think he’s
universally accepted as the
694
00:39:58,000 –> 00:39:59,900
president that did the most
damage.
695
00:39:59,900 –> 00:40:02,400
After his term like things that
we still.
696
00:40:03,100 –> 00:40:04,300
Yeah.
Things that we still have to
697
00:40:04,300 –> 00:40:07,800
fucking deal with.
Yeah, I still maintain.
698
00:40:07,800 –> 00:40:10,800
He is our worst president ever
Trump.
699
00:40:10,800 –> 00:40:13,400
Yeah.
Was Head and Shoulders a better.
700
00:40:13,500 –> 00:40:17,100
That then Ronald Reagan like
Trump only happened because of
701
00:40:17,100 –> 00:40:19,500
Reagan.
Yes, Trump only happened because
702
00:40:19,500 –> 00:40:22,300
Reagan and I think Trump didn’t
get a second term because he’s
703
00:40:22,300 –> 00:40:28,100
not as much of a Warhawk as rain
and that kind of speaks to what
704
00:40:28,300 –> 00:40:33,100
we’re about to talk about which
is the CIA they end up getting,
705
00:40:33,200 –> 00:40:35,500
you know, kind of kicked out of
the United States and told that.
706
00:40:35,500 –> 00:40:38,300
Well if you want to do anything,
you got to do it in, you know,
707
00:40:38,500 –> 00:40:42,500
other parts of the world.
So then Ronald Reagan ends up
708
00:40:42,500 –> 00:40:46,000
running for And something
unprecedented happens for the
709
00:40:46,000 –> 00:40:49,800
first time in history, the
director of the CIA steps down
710
00:40:49,800 –> 00:40:52,800
and decides, you know what, I’m
going to run for the second
711
00:40:52,800 –> 00:40:56,000
highest office in all the land.
I’m going to run for vice
712
00:40:56,000 –> 00:40:59,500
president and that man was
George h.w.
713
00:40:59,500 –> 00:41:02,500
Bush.
Oh shit.
714
00:41:03,200 –> 00:41:06,500
That the guy whose name comes up
in the JFK assassination all the
715
00:41:06,500 –> 00:41:10,600
time, too.
And so they Campaign together
716
00:41:10,700 –> 00:41:13,200
and Reagan, I kind of
unexpectedly.
717
00:41:13,500 –> 00:41:18,400
It’s definitely not because the
CIA brokered a deal to end the
718
00:41:18,400 –> 00:41:23,300
Iranian hostage crisis, after he
took office but he ends up
719
00:41:23,600 –> 00:41:25,700
winning.
And then what happens eight
720
00:41:25,700 –> 00:41:31,400
weeks later he is very nearly
assassinated in weird as shit
721
00:41:31,400 –> 00:41:36,500
MKUltra fashion by a guy who you
know said he was doing it for
722
00:41:36,500 –> 00:41:41,000
Jodie Foster but true that’s
right up there with you know
723
00:41:41,100 –> 00:41:43,300
doing it because you read some
shit and Catcher in the Rye.
724
00:41:43,900 –> 00:41:47,300
Whyever John Lennon got shot
because Double Fantasy sucked.
725
00:41:47,300 –> 00:41:53,100
I don’t know.
I really feel like in my heart
726
00:41:53,100 –> 00:41:58,300
of hearts that what happened
there was the CIA one.
727
00:41:58,300 –> 00:42:01,500
Just trying to install the
current CIA director as
728
00:42:01,500 –> 00:42:04,900
president because people weren’t
amped when George Bush
729
00:42:04,900 –> 00:42:06,300
announced.
He was running his vice
730
00:42:06,300 –> 00:42:08,700
president.
People are like after all of
731
00:42:08,700 –> 00:42:11,300
that.
Like all of that CIA shit.
732
00:42:11,300 –> 00:42:15,600
Now a CIA guys going to Run for
vice president, I’m sure it’ll
733
00:42:15,600 –> 00:42:18,800
be fine.
And then Reagan almost gets
734
00:42:19,300 –> 00:42:20,700
murdered.
What do you think?
735
00:42:21,000 –> 00:42:24,200
Well, I’m glad that Reagan
almost got murdered because we
736
00:42:24,200 –> 00:42:26,700
do have a near-death experience
podcast.
737
00:42:26,700 –> 00:42:29,400
So it’s in line with what we do.
We should get him on.
738
00:42:29,400 –> 00:42:33,900
Wow, yeah, that’s a good point.
Yep.
739
00:42:33,900 –> 00:42:35,800
Very well.
I think that was very deliberate
740
00:42:35,800 –> 00:42:39,500
on Adams policy plugging.
Oh yeah, I’m sure there is
741
00:42:39,500 –> 00:42:43,300
something to the insanity
defense.
742
00:42:43,400 –> 00:42:46,700
This type of thing, where I mean
I’ve never been on LSD and
743
00:42:46,700 –> 00:42:50,400
thought someone was talking to
me through the TV.
744
00:42:51,300 –> 00:42:56,500
But I have, you know, I could be
convinced.
745
00:42:56,600 –> 00:42:59,600
But also every time you’ve been
on LSD, you’ve known that you
746
00:42:59,600 –> 00:43:01,900
were on LSD.
It’s a good point that we know
747
00:43:01,900 –> 00:43:04,800
of that, I know.
So, you know, you can when, you
748
00:43:04,800 –> 00:43:08,200
know you’re tripping, you can be
like, Oh, I’m trippin.
749
00:43:08,700 –> 00:43:14,300
I really kind of buy into this
Theory or selling me to Adam As
750
00:43:14,500 –> 00:43:16,400
you make a good point, like it’s
been a long time.
751
00:43:16,400 –> 00:43:18,700
Since we’ve heard somebody be
like, oh, I don’t know.
752
00:43:18,700 –> 00:43:21,800
I was just being crazy.
Yeah, I tried to kill the
753
00:43:21,800 –> 00:43:24,500
president or whatever, like you
don’t really care about that as
754
00:43:24,500 –> 00:43:26,100
much anymore.
When’s the last time like a
755
00:43:26,100 –> 00:43:28,500
biggest fashion assassination
attempts as happen?
756
00:43:28,600 –> 00:43:29,800
I mean, I don’t know.
Yeah.
757
00:43:29,800 –> 00:43:31,900
I mean in the United States its
kind of that.
758
00:43:31,900 –> 00:43:32,800
Right.
Right.
759
00:43:33,300 –> 00:43:35,600
Yeah, I think it’s like, but
they kept missing their Mark
760
00:43:35,600 –> 00:43:37,400
though.
Yeah, that guy threw a shoe at
761
00:43:37,400 –> 00:43:41,200
George Bush which was very,
we’re talking about that before
762
00:43:41,200 –> 00:43:43,200
we started recording talking
about that yet.
763
00:43:43,400 –> 00:43:47,500
Yeah, and I think that that was
cool but I you know you could
764
00:43:47,500 –> 00:43:50,900
make the case that yellow stuff
was happening called
765
00:43:50,900 –> 00:43:53,300
assassinations follow blah and
then they kind of died out
766
00:43:53,300 –> 00:43:55,900
because they weren’t effective.
I think the bigger question is,
767
00:43:56,300 –> 00:43:58,200
what did they figure out?
Did stick?
768
00:43:58,400 –> 00:44:06,000
Ya know about one of the things
I talked about the church
769
00:44:06,000 –> 00:44:09,100
committee hearings on a
different episode.
770
00:44:09,100 –> 00:44:12,500
One of the things that came up
in the course of that also, was
771
00:44:12,500 –> 00:44:17,700
that the CIA A developed a
shellfish toxin gun that they
772
00:44:17,700 –> 00:44:21,200
could use for assassinations and
they like show it during the
773
00:44:21,200 –> 00:44:22,800
course of the church committee
hearings.
774
00:44:22,800 –> 00:44:25,600
They like sounds like sharks
with laser beams on.
775
00:44:26,900 –> 00:44:31,500
It’s sort of is shellfish, toxin
gun and what’s crazy is?
776
00:44:32,100 –> 00:44:35,200
I Hope they’ve just landed on
that for assassination
777
00:44:35,200 –> 00:44:38,600
techniques forever because it
sounds so so nice.
778
00:44:39,100 –> 00:44:42,500
But you just like the you just
like tingle for a little bit and
779
00:44:42,500 –> 00:44:45,000
then your Dead.
So, you to be allergic to
780
00:44:45,300 –> 00:44:48,900
shellfish though, but, you know,
Tom, and from a shellfish, if
781
00:44:50,500 –> 00:45:02,800
it’s not just for people who
kind of assassination, peanuts,
782
00:45:05,500 –> 00:45:08,500
what did they do to us, to make
everybody’s kid allergic to
783
00:45:08,500 –> 00:45:11,800
peanuts all of a sudden?
And, you know, em what’s going
784
00:45:11,800 –> 00:45:14,700
on here?
What’s Thing where you okay, if
785
00:45:14,700 –> 00:45:18,100
need be, that did come on pretty
quick, I guess.
786
00:45:18,100 –> 00:45:20,900
Yeah, I know it’s kind of that
be wearing when I was a kid.
787
00:45:21,000 –> 00:45:23,400
Everyone was home, allergic, and
maybe those kids were just
788
00:45:23,400 –> 00:45:28,000
fucking dying and we didn’t know
why that could be a thing to me.
789
00:45:28,400 –> 00:45:31,300
I like to, I like, throwing my
own conspiracy theories in here.
790
00:45:31,300 –> 00:45:33,100
Yeah, that’s fun.
They’re doing things.
791
00:45:33,100 –> 00:45:35,200
You know, they gotta, you know
what, we’re not eating healthy
792
00:45:35,200 –> 00:45:39,100
food anymore, right?
It’s all, it’s all GMOs and it’s
793
00:45:39,100 –> 00:45:41,500
all bad for everybody’s out of
shape yy0.
794
00:45:43,300 –> 00:45:50,100
Amma.
Yeah I mean to say yeah it also
795
00:45:50,100 –> 00:45:51,900
made me think of that that
shellfish thing would be.
796
00:45:51,900 –> 00:45:54,400
I mean yeah Adam I’m sure you’ve
heard all these two you know but
797
00:45:54,400 –> 00:45:57,100
the gay gun thing the gay bomb.
No.
798
00:45:57,100 –> 00:45:59,600
But I love it already.
You know about this atom, right?
799
00:45:59,600 –> 00:46:01,900
I think I vaguely heard about
it.
800
00:46:02,300 –> 00:46:06,400
One of the like when you send a
bomb that has glitter in it to
801
00:46:06,400 –> 00:46:08,800
someone who’s wronged you and
then it makes their house a mess
802
00:46:08,800 –> 00:46:12,200
for her kind of.
Yeah marker over made it.
803
00:46:12,500 –> 00:46:15,000
No it’s this That they were
experimenting with where they
804
00:46:15,000 –> 00:46:19,100
were like oh maybe we can
release like hormones and
805
00:46:19,100 –> 00:46:21,800
pheromones into the air that
will make the enemy soldiers,
806
00:46:21,800 –> 00:46:24,900
really horny and want to fuck
and drop their guns and not
807
00:46:24,900 –> 00:46:27,500
fight that rules.
Like a real thing that they were
808
00:46:27,500 –> 00:46:29,200
developing.
Yeah, that’s the thing.
809
00:46:29,200 –> 00:46:31,600
We were looking into biological
weapons.
810
00:46:31,800 –> 00:46:34,100
Chemical weapons for the longest
time.
811
00:46:34,400 –> 00:46:38,200
Mind control stuff, it’s just
what we were getting into as a
812
00:46:38,200 –> 00:46:42,400
country for such a long time.
Like so much of, you know, like
813
00:46:42,400 –> 00:46:45,900
the 60s And especially anything
relating to acid.
814
00:46:46,000 –> 00:46:48,800
So much of that had to do with
the CIA.
815
00:46:49,400 –> 00:46:52,000
I was going to say, you know,
John Hinckley jr.
816
00:46:52,000 –> 00:46:54,700
Is out of prison.
Now, I was going to say, yeah,
817
00:46:54,700 –> 00:46:58,100
he’s of all the assassins.
He’s the one who’s like, out and
818
00:46:58,100 –> 00:47:00,200
fucking, I looked him up
recently.
819
00:47:00,200 –> 00:47:03,900
He’s like a musician now, dude.
We know all about this.
820
00:47:03,900 –> 00:47:07,600
Our friend Tyler Snodgrass.
Who actually did the logo for
821
00:47:07,600 –> 00:47:08,600
our podcast.
Shout out.
822
00:47:08,607 –> 00:47:10,500
Tyler Snodgrass Shadow, he’s a
comedian.
823
00:47:10,500 –> 00:47:12,800
Yeah, and he’s a musician as
well.
824
00:47:12,800 –> 00:47:15,900
He’s got Country music podcast
called, take this pod and shove
825
00:47:15,900 –> 00:47:21,300
it and he was trying to open up
for Hinckley when he was coming
826
00:47:21,300 –> 00:47:23,600
to Brooklyn.
Yeah, he came to Brooklyn in a
827
00:47:23,607 –> 00:47:26,700
couple months ago he was like
hitting up his manager like kind
828
00:47:26,700 –> 00:47:28,500
of please open for him can I
please open Forum?
829
00:47:28,500 –> 00:47:30,300
Because how fucking cool would
that be?
830
00:47:30,300 –> 00:47:34,200
Yeah and it turns out the tour
manager got back to Tyler and
831
00:47:34,200 –> 00:47:38,000
was like yeah, he hasn’t paid
any of us.
832
00:47:38,000 –> 00:47:41,700
So we’re going on strike but you
can open for him if you want.
833
00:47:41,800 –> 00:47:43,200
He’s got to be an asshole and
not.
834
00:47:43,300 –> 00:47:46,500
I pay you, and I was like, I
guess I’m not a scab sort of
835
00:47:47,900 –> 00:47:51,000
John Hinckley, jr.
Is kind of an asshole who, who,
836
00:47:51,000 –> 00:47:55,100
who would have thought figure?
Yeah, it is crazy.
837
00:47:55,100 –> 00:47:59,100
That he’s out of prison, though.
Because like Sirhan Sirhan is
838
00:47:59,100 –> 00:48:02,000
certainly sir.
Constantly never getting out
839
00:48:03,600 –> 00:48:06,600
John’s White.
I was just going to say job is
840
00:48:06,600 –> 00:48:09,700
what he’s white.
He also like has he given any
841
00:48:09,700 –> 00:48:12,100
interviews about this?
I assume he doesn’t want to talk
842
00:48:12,100 –> 00:48:15,700
about it, but John You home.
Yeah, but he of all people could
843
00:48:15,700 –> 00:48:19,100
say, like, I don’t know, I was
kind of out of my mind, like,
844
00:48:19,100 –> 00:48:20,800
kind of felt like I was on
drugs.
845
00:48:21,100 –> 00:48:24,200
That’s a like, yeah, I don’t
know if it’s the same for him,
846
00:48:24,200 –> 00:48:28,200
because did he ever go to prison
or was he just in toward yeah?
847
00:48:28,200 –> 00:48:31,900
Usually so yeah, it’s going to
be different for him.
848
00:48:31,900 –> 00:48:34,600
Like he doesn’t have to, like,
eventually someone’s just gonna
849
00:48:34,600 –> 00:48:37,200
be like, all right, you’re fine,
get out of here, but Sirhan
850
00:48:37,200 –> 00:48:41,200
sirhan’s in for real prison.
And for him to get out, he has
851
00:48:41,200 –> 00:48:45,100
to basically say, yes.
Yes, I take responsibility for
852
00:48:45,100 –> 00:48:49,600
what I did and that’s the thing.
He’s like not and willing to do,
853
00:48:49,700 –> 00:48:53,100
and so Sirhan sirhan’s, never
getting out of prison.
854
00:48:53,200 –> 00:48:55,700
I mean, what’s John, what have
they have?
855
00:48:55,700 –> 00:48:59,700
They given a girly on record
saying what motivated them
856
00:48:59,700 –> 00:49:01,800
though?
I mean, other than just, there
857
00:49:01,800 –> 00:49:07,000
is a tap on my shoulder like
well, with Sirhan Sirhan, he is
858
00:49:07,100 –> 00:49:09,800
claimed, he’s innocent for the
longest time.
859
00:49:10,100 –> 00:49:13,200
Like, they found like a note in
his pocket.
860
00:49:13,400 –> 00:49:16,400
Said like Angry things about
Bobby Kennedy and said, like
861
00:49:16,400 –> 00:49:19,600
must kill, Bobby Kennedy, he
just had that in his pocket.
862
00:49:19,700 –> 00:49:22,100
Mmm, of course.
That’s because I’m going to kill
863
00:49:22,100 –> 00:49:24,200
someone.
I would carry a note about all
864
00:49:24,200 –> 00:49:26,600
the things I didn’t like about
them with me just in case I
865
00:49:26,607 –> 00:49:28,400
forgot.
You don’t want to forget
866
00:49:29,100 –> 00:49:30,900
happening in Beverly Hills, you
know.
867
00:49:31,400 –> 00:49:34,500
Yeah, typing himself up in the
bathroom, reading the note,
868
00:49:35,600 –> 00:49:37,400
okay.
Oh yeah, he’s annoying.
869
00:49:37,400 –> 00:49:39,900
Yeah, he’s so annoying.
I’m gonna fucking murder.
870
00:49:40,600 –> 00:49:42,900
Fucking Bobby, Bobby.
Kennedy.
871
00:49:43,500 –> 00:49:45,200
Kennedy, is it?
All right, let’s see.
872
00:49:45,200 –> 00:49:47,500
So many of those guys like a
stupid hair.
873
00:49:47,800 –> 00:49:50,900
Pretty sure he was hitting on my
wife, his jaw clicks when he
874
00:49:50,900 –> 00:49:54,000
chews, or I’m ready.
It’s so funny that you
875
00:49:54,000 –> 00:49:55,700
mentioned.
There’s so many of those guys.
876
00:49:55,800 –> 00:49:59,300
I went to the Reagan Library
recently, I wrote an article
877
00:49:59,300 –> 00:50:02,100
about this on my sub stack plug
plug plug.
878
00:50:02,500 –> 00:50:06,900
I went to the Reagan Library not
too long ago to see the FBI
879
00:50:06,900 –> 00:50:10,600
exhibit because I you know
fucking hate Reagan and law
880
00:50:10,600 –> 00:50:13,200
enforcement both but boy do I
love crime.
881
00:50:13,500 –> 00:50:17,400
And sing it.
It was legitimately cool.
882
00:50:17,600 –> 00:50:22,600
Like don’t judge me until you’ve
seen the Beltway snipers, Chevy,
883
00:50:22,600 –> 00:50:26,600
Caprice up close then.
Tell me if it’s tasteless that
884
00:50:26,600 –> 00:50:30,900
part but I get all the way
through it.
885
00:50:31,100 –> 00:50:34,000
I just went through the FBI
exhibit, mostly me, and the
886
00:50:34,008 –> 00:50:37,400
wife, like fucking sprinted.
Like track stars through the
887
00:50:37,400 –> 00:50:39,800
Reagan thing just to see if
there’s anything interesting.
888
00:50:40,100 –> 00:50:44,400
There is a room where they play
him being A shot, just like a
889
00:50:44,400 –> 00:50:47,900
30-second clip of it on a
fucking constant loop.
890
00:50:47,900 –> 00:50:51,300
I sense, I spent some time in
there by tracking off, where you
891
00:50:51,300 –> 00:50:56,900
jacking off I would.
But then I went to the gift shop
892
00:50:56,900 –> 00:51:00,700
because I’m a sucker for you, so
you can get like a teddy bear
893
00:51:00,700 –> 00:51:04,800
with a bullet wound.
Inside is almost what I ended up
894
00:51:04,800 –> 00:51:07,600
getting like.
I had a hard rule that I wasn’t
895
00:51:07,600 –> 00:51:09,600
going to buy anything with
Reagan’s name on it.
896
00:51:09,700 –> 00:51:13,200
Like that’s a fucking hard pass.
And that left me two choices.
897
00:51:13,300 –> 00:51:16,700
Is either just some regular ass
Jelly Belly, jelly beans, that
898
00:51:16,700 –> 00:51:19,600
didn’t like have anything
government on them at all.
899
00:51:20,000 –> 00:51:22,500
Great, love them.
But I can get those at 7-Eleven
900
00:51:22,600 –> 00:51:27,500
or the one non Reagan Democrat
related thing.
901
00:51:27,500 –> 00:51:34,200
They had was a souvenir program
from the RFK assassination.
902
00:51:34,400 –> 00:51:37,900
It came out the day after he
died.
903
00:51:37,900 –> 00:51:41,900
It was printed somewhere here in
California by this disgraced
904
00:51:41,900 –> 00:51:45,800
publisher who had only like
stolen books from people and
905
00:51:45,800 –> 00:51:51,100
gotten sued over it before this.
And somehow the day after Bobby
906
00:51:51,100 –> 00:51:56,800
Kennedy was assassinated, he had
this like 20 page program with
907
00:51:56,800 –> 00:52:01,000
like all the details of the
assassination.
908
00:52:01,300 –> 00:52:04,700
All the bullet angles, like,
everything you would expect
909
00:52:04,700 –> 00:52:07,600
people to have to wait, to be
able to get access to.
910
00:52:07,700 –> 00:52:11,600
And then there’s a whole section
dedicated to the Kennedys and
911
00:52:11,600 –> 00:52:15,600
how tragic their story is.
In the last page of that section
912
00:52:15,700 –> 00:52:20,000
is just a picture of Ted Kennedy
and in big-ass black letters, it
913
00:52:20,000 –> 00:52:24,400
says one son is left like it
looks like a fucking wanted
914
00:52:24,400 –> 00:52:31,900
poster and then at the end is an
article about how irresponsible
915
00:52:31,900 –> 00:52:36,200
it is that any would-be
assassins of the world if they
916
00:52:36,200 –> 00:52:42,800
want can just order Guns by mail
and that’s how JFK was killed in
917
00:52:42,800 –> 00:52:45,100
the hole.
All article, it seems like it’s
918
00:52:45,100 –> 00:52:47,700
being like, hey, why is this a
thing in?
919
00:52:47,700 –> 00:52:52,000
My question is, like, why do you
put that right in there?
920
00:52:52,000 –> 00:52:56,500
The day after Kennedy is killed
like hot on the heels of that
921
00:52:56,500 –> 00:52:59,800
one son is left thing.
Here’s how they’re all getting
922
00:52:59,800 –> 00:53:01,500
guns.
Yeah.
923
00:53:01,600 –> 00:53:04,600
It’s a dog whistle and it’s like
is this part of it?
924
00:53:04,600 –> 00:53:08,200
Like is this MKUltra history?
Yeah, that actually, when you
925
00:53:08,200 –> 00:53:12,700
said the rain, getting shot on
the loop thing reminded me of a
926
00:53:12,700 –> 00:53:14,800
memory.
I Server pressed from when I was
927
00:53:14,800 –> 00:53:20,100
like, truly a baby comedian.
Like, I was like– sixth.
928
00:53:20,100 –> 00:53:21,500
Real show.
I’d ever done.
929
00:53:21,900 –> 00:53:25,900
Was this weird show?
That was like, I don’t even know
930
00:53:25,900 –> 00:53:28,000
how to explain it because I
didn’t understand what it was,
931
00:53:28,000 –> 00:53:32,400
but they would show like, weird
sketches and do weird bits in
932
00:53:32,400 –> 00:53:35,300
between each comedian.
And then I was next and instead
933
00:53:35,300 –> 00:53:41,000
of showing us catch, they played
the video of JFK being shot.
934
00:53:41,100 –> 00:53:44,900
Whoa, full thing and They were
like, give it up for your next
935
00:53:44,900 –> 00:53:47,900
comedian.
Lizzie Cassidy had no chops and
936
00:53:47,900 –> 00:53:53,100
had to go and be like, dedes
weird intro do with the Zapruder
937
00:53:53,100 –> 00:53:55,500
film there?
I get at it.
938
00:53:55,500 –> 00:54:00,900
This next comic is a lady but
first back into the left pulley
939
00:54:00,900 –> 00:54:03,500
like a Jackie Kennedy.
Try to scoop his brains up and
940
00:54:03,500 –> 00:54:09,000
then me That was fun is, yeah.
Do you get it on tape?
941
00:54:09,400 –> 00:54:12,500
No.
Yeah, I think we can all agree.
942
00:54:12,500 –> 00:54:14,700
I’ve been absolutely correct
about everything.
943
00:54:14,700 –> 00:54:16,800
I’ve said here, I feel like I
don’t even need to ask.
944
00:54:17,000 –> 00:54:19,000
I think I’m right.
Yeah.
945
00:54:19,000 –> 00:54:22,100
We’re pretty much on board.
Yeah, I think we all we all
946
00:54:22,100 –> 00:54:23,000
agree.
Maybe not.
947
00:54:23,000 –> 00:54:27,900
I have more questions than ever,
but I’m not gonna defend
948
00:54:27,900 –> 00:54:34,700
Jonestown or the CIA or MKUltra
to anybody and trying to kill
949
00:54:34,700 –> 00:54:38,400
Ronald Reagan.
That’s cool, that is cool.
950
00:54:38,400 –> 00:54:43,000
Yeah, I think trying to kill
Reagan is a cool thing to do so
951
00:54:43,100 –> 00:54:45,800
I was Jodie Foster.
I would be moved by that
952
00:54:45,800 –> 00:54:48,300
somewhere early, Junior an NSA
analyst.
953
00:54:48,300 –> 00:54:53,900
Just got their wings.
That’s like I’m so jaded to
954
00:54:53,900 –> 00:54:55,900
being like they’re always
listening that I’m like I’ll say
955
00:54:55,900 –> 00:54:58,100
it.
What are you cook?
956
00:54:58,100 –> 00:55:01,400
What I who am I you know?
Yeah, what is Homeland Security
957
00:55:01,400 –> 00:55:05,800
going to cancel me.
Stop this podcast, baby.
958
00:55:06,100 –> 00:55:07,500
All right.
So John Hinckley jr.
959
00:55:07,500 –> 00:55:11,300
Was one of History’s biggest
Fall, Guys became an American
960
00:55:11,300 –> 00:55:13,600
folk hero.
Now, we just fucking shreds and
961
00:55:13,600 –> 00:55:17,400
crushes.
He shreds doesn’t like I don’t,
962
00:55:17,400 –> 00:55:21,000
I haven’t listened to any of
this music as he’s like, yeah,
963
00:55:21,000 –> 00:55:23,700
this folk music but it seems I
do like the idea that he’s
964
00:55:23,700 –> 00:55:25,500
either shit.
I use for sure.
965
00:55:25,500 –> 00:55:27,400
Got groupies though, which is so
funny to me.
966
00:55:30,500 –> 00:55:34,100
That’s his white whale, man.
Yeah, it’s the idea of someone
967
00:55:34,100 –> 00:55:37,200
being one of his groupies is
very funny and not something
968
00:55:37,200 –> 00:55:38,800
anyone.
Here is familiar with.
969
00:55:38,800 –> 00:55:44,800
Can you imagine if I think Lee
groupie actually?
970
00:55:45,900 –> 00:55:52,800
I think he get he get, come on.
Yeah, that’s what we should get
971
00:55:52,800 –> 00:55:55,900
that going.
We should get a gun if you want
972
00:55:55,900 –> 00:55:59,100
to fuck John, Hinckley jr.
All right, I’m pretty sure, just
973
00:55:59,100 –> 00:56:01,300
try it.
Gonna Make You good.
974
00:56:01,400 –> 00:56:03,400
I’m making horny for Hinckley
shirts.
975
00:56:03,400 –> 00:56:05,600
Who wants one?
I want one so bad, dude.
976
00:56:05,600 –> 00:56:08,400
And I genuinely would wear that
the Hornet, really?
977
00:56:08,400 –> 00:56:11,000
Sure.
Let’s get a limited drop.
978
00:56:11,000 –> 00:56:13,800
Just give us horny for Hank
Lurch.
979
00:56:16,100 –> 00:56:17,900
Well, thank you both for doing
the Pod.
980
00:56:18,200 –> 00:56:21,500
Thanks for having us on, of
course, do we do we have any
981
00:56:21,500 –> 00:56:23,300
final thoughts?
Anything.
982
00:56:23,400 –> 00:56:25,100
I think we, I think we made it,
right.
983
00:56:25,900 –> 00:56:28,400
Yeah, if you guys want to check
out the podcast, you can find us
984
00:56:28,400 –> 00:56:31,500
on iTunes and Spotify.
Also, you have podcasts.
985
00:56:31,500 –> 00:56:33,100
It goes up there.
Yeah, probably.
986
00:56:33,100 –> 00:56:35,500
I don’t know, but it does.
I’ve looked into it.
987
00:56:35,500 –> 00:56:40,400
Okay, wherever we set it up.
Close calls, close calls podcast
988
00:56:41,000 –> 00:56:44,600
on Instagram.
If you yourself ever almost
989
00:56:44,600 –> 00:56:46,200
died.
Send us an email close calls
990
00:56:46,200 –> 00:56:48,400
podcast at gmail.com.
We’d love to hear from you or
991
00:56:48,400 –> 00:56:51,100
leave us a voicemail at 470 not
Dad.
992
00:56:51,200 –> 00:56:55,300
Yeah so those are kind of our
plugs yeah no yeah go listen to
993
00:56:55,300 –> 00:56:56,200
the episode.
I was on.
994
00:56:56,200 –> 00:56:58,200
It’s real fun.
I tweeted so fun.
995
00:56:58,200 –> 00:57:00,000
I tweeted yeah go look at my
Twitter.
996
00:57:00,300 –> 00:57:04,100
My Twitter and go listen to my
episode Adam.
997
00:57:04,100 –> 00:57:07,600
And I did of unpopular opinion
when you were in New York, man.
998
00:57:07,600 –> 00:57:12,000
Yeah, Kevin was on the live
episode, which we put out right
999
00:57:12,000 –> 00:57:13,900
after that.
It’s available on all the
1000
00:57:13,900 –> 00:57:18,200
places.
And do I have anything to plug?
1001
00:57:18,500 –> 00:57:22,100
I’m doing comedy again?
I haven’t done any stand up
1002
00:57:22,100 –> 00:57:26,700
since covid, welcome back.
Yeah, thank God.
1003
00:57:26,700 –> 00:57:28,700
So exciting.
What a lovely thing to come back
1004
00:57:28,700 –> 00:57:33,700
to I’m doing a show with danger
Van Gorder February 3rd at the
1005
00:57:33,700 –> 00:57:38,600
Sardine in San Pedro which is
little punk, rock Club, very
1006
00:57:38,600 –> 00:57:40,100
fun.
There’s a nice taco truck
1007
00:57:40,100 –> 00:57:42,200
crossed the street and limited
seats.
1008
00:57:42,200 –> 00:57:45,200
They pack them in.
I’ll be starting sodium joke.
1009
00:57:45,200 –> 00:57:47,700
Yeah.
Second comedian in a row to make
1010
00:57:47,700 –> 00:57:55,100
that joke, so come to that
tickets will be on sale soon.
1011
00:57:55,100 –> 00:57:56,900
I don’t know what the exact
lineups going to be, but it’s
1012
00:57:56,900 –> 00:58:00,100
going to be a fuckin hoot.
Just gonna write new jokes and
1013
00:58:00,300 –> 00:58:03,000
just do them front of me and I
think that’s it.
1014
00:58:03,000 –> 00:58:05,500
Let’s get the fuck out of here.
Lizzie say goodbye.
1015
00:58:05,600 –> 00:58:08,600
Bye, everybody.
Kevin say goodbye.
1016
00:58:08,900 –> 00:58:12,500
They all candy us.
Oh, goodbye everybody.
1017
00:58:12,500 –> 00:58:14,900
We love you.
I don’t usually say it that way.
1018
00:58:20,100 –> 00:58:21,100
People in my life.