Conspiracy! The Show 268: Is the Government Gaslighting Us About UFOs?

1
00:00:10,640 –> 00:00:15,720
Welcome to Conspiracy the Show,
the world’s most trusted

2
00:00:15,720 –> 00:00:21,560
conspiracy theory podcast with
your hosts Adam Todd Brown and

3
00:00:21,560 –> 00:00:35,480
Olivia Hydar.
Hey everybody, Welcome to

4
00:00:35,480 –> 00:00:38,640
Conspiracy the show.
I’m your host, Adam Todd Brown.

5
00:00:38,640 –> 00:00:42,600
Joining me is Co host this week.
Oh, my favorite Co host of all.

6
00:00:42,600 –> 00:00:46,640
No Co host, but I do have a
guest in the room.

7
00:00:47,040 –> 00:00:50,120
Zach Johnston is here.
Hey, how you doing, Adam?

8
00:00:50,160 –> 00:00:55,000
It’s been too long and I’m ready
to talk about UFOs.

9
00:00:55,080 –> 00:00:59,320
UFUFOSI mean we’re not allowed
to call them that anymore.

10
00:00:59,520 –> 00:01:02,680
They’re UA PS now.
Please show some respect.

11
00:01:04,160 –> 00:01:05,160
I refuse.
No.

12
00:01:05,319 –> 00:01:10,400
OK, UAPSUAPSI won’t be that guy.
Zach was on an episode not too

13
00:01:10,400 –> 00:01:12,200
long ago.
It was a It was a few months

14
00:01:12,200 –> 00:01:14,320
ago.
I don’t remember what we talked

15
00:01:14,320 –> 00:01:17,400
about.
It was a a similar episode to

16
00:01:17,400 –> 00:01:19,320
this where we’re we’re just
riffing.

17
00:01:19,320 –> 00:01:21,240
There’s no notes.
Yeah, we were.

18
00:01:21,480 –> 00:01:25,280
We went into how social media is
sort of like MK Ultra 2.0.

19
00:01:25,360 –> 00:01:27,560
Oh, sure, sure.
I should have remembered that

20
00:01:27,560 –> 00:01:30,800
because we’ve been touching on
that a little bit on this show

21
00:01:30,840 –> 00:01:33,640
again recently.
Yeah, and surely in the last few

22
00:01:33,640 –> 00:01:36,080
months social media hasn’t
caused people to have

23
00:01:36,080 –> 00:01:37,680
hallucinations and go crazy at
all.

24
00:01:37,920 –> 00:01:40,160
No, no.
Social media is pretty chill

25
00:01:40,160 –> 00:01:43,720
right now.
It’s it’s a pretty it’s it’s

26
00:01:43,720 –> 00:01:47,440
almost like a resort for your
brain kind of getting on social

27
00:01:47,440 –> 00:01:48,920
media these days it’s.
Really.

28
00:01:48,960 –> 00:01:51,360
Nice.
It’s it’s all sunglasses and

29
00:01:51,360 –> 00:01:52,920
shoes I want to buy and nothing
else.

30
00:01:54,440 –> 00:01:58,200
I mean, that’s Instagram for me.
It’s just stuff I want to buy

31
00:01:58,200 –> 00:02:02,640
and people I ignore.
And then, you know, just

32
00:02:02,640 –> 00:02:04,360
shopping.
That’s that’s it’s the only

33
00:02:04,360 –> 00:02:06,560
that’s the only thing social
media is good for anymore is

34
00:02:06,560 –> 00:02:08,400
shopping.
I agree.

35
00:02:09,320 –> 00:02:13,200
But yeah, man, let’s talk about
all this extraterrestrial

36
00:02:13,200 –> 00:02:16,160
adjacent shit, man, Because I
have some opinions and I want to

37
00:02:16,160 –> 00:02:17,800
express them.
And I’m sure you do too.

38
00:02:17,920 –> 00:02:23,160
You have some opinions on our
current UFO crisis.

39
00:02:23,440 –> 00:02:25,280
Is that what we want to call it?
What do we call it?

40
00:02:25,600 –> 00:02:31,120
If you want to call a conspiracy
to gaslight the public a crisis,

41
00:02:31,120 –> 00:02:34,640
then perhaps.
But yeah, you know, for me,

42
00:02:34,640 –> 00:02:36,960
that’s a funny thing is, what
was it this summer?

43
00:02:36,960 –> 00:02:40,080
Maybe last spring when that
government official went before

44
00:02:40,080 –> 00:02:43,480
Congress.
And I found it just baffling

45
00:02:43,480 –> 00:02:45,920
that the narrative that came out
of that was like government

46
00:02:46,000 –> 00:02:49,200
admits aliens are real.
And it’s sort of like, did I

47
00:02:49,200 –> 00:02:51,120
watch something different?
Because I feel like that guy

48
00:02:51,120 –> 00:02:52,760
didn’t say that at all.
No.

49
00:02:52,880 –> 00:02:57,960
Like, not even remotely and.
He just said that the government

50
00:02:57,960 –> 00:03:01,800
is in possession of like alien
crafts.

51
00:03:02,040 –> 00:03:06,080
Crafts and the other thing was
non humanoid biological tissue

52
00:03:06,080 –> 00:03:07,600
or entities.
Something like that.

53
00:03:07,840 –> 00:03:10,600
It’s just like, so they have
grass because that’s non

54
00:03:10,600 –> 00:03:14,120
humanoid, biological, but you
know, it could be anything.

55
00:03:14,320 –> 00:03:18,320
Yeah, what’s what’s funny for me
is like, so I mean, taking it

56
00:03:18,320 –> 00:03:21,000
back even to, like, the New York
Times thing from a couple years

57
00:03:21,000 –> 00:03:25,560
back based on very shitty video
from, what, 2004, 2007.

58
00:03:26,520 –> 00:03:28,360
Video we’re seeing now.
Yeah, the tic.

59
00:03:28,520 –> 00:03:30,720
Tac.
Video Yeah, I think it’s 2004.

60
00:03:30,920 –> 00:03:33,520
Yeah, again, like, I see that.
I think it oh, that’s cool.

61
00:03:33,520 –> 00:03:37,440
But then it’s sort of like, but
that’s nothing given.

62
00:03:37,880 –> 00:03:39,360
And maybe this is me being
cynical.

63
00:03:40,080 –> 00:03:43,160
Have you seen a movie recently
where they have CGI and make

64
00:03:43,160 –> 00:03:46,680
everything look hyper realistic
and you know that that, you

65
00:03:46,680 –> 00:03:49,280
know, ability has existed since
the 80s.

66
00:03:50,240 –> 00:03:53,360
And I think we talked about this
on the last episode has on and

67
00:03:53,360 –> 00:03:55,960
I’m very, very reticent to
believe anything the government

68
00:03:55,960 –> 00:03:57,520
puts out.
Why would people think that as

69
00:03:57,520 –> 00:03:59,920
face, as face value ever?
That’s my question.

70
00:04:00,160 –> 00:04:04,920
That’s kind of my question about
conspiracy theories in general

71
00:04:05,320 –> 00:04:07,920
sometime.
And comedian Ron Funches has a

72
00:04:07,920 –> 00:04:12,120
great bit about this.
But like, it’s I say this a lot.

73
00:04:12,320 –> 00:04:17,519
It’s equally crazy to believe
every conspiracy theory and no

74
00:04:17,519 –> 00:04:21,320
conspiracy theories.
Like, you have to admit it’s

75
00:04:21,519 –> 00:04:24,920
somewhere in the middle, Like
the government lies to us a lot.

76
00:04:24,960 –> 00:04:29,320
And whenever I’m confronted with
that, my, the one I always run

77
00:04:29,320 –> 00:04:32,480
by people is, well, what about
the second war in Iraq?

78
00:04:32,920 –> 00:04:35,840
Do you think we really were
going there for weapons of mass

79
00:04:35,840 –> 00:04:39,520
destruction or were we going
there over a vendetta and

80
00:04:39,520 –> 00:04:43,080
because we wanted some oil?
Like no one believes our

81
00:04:43,080 –> 00:04:48,000
explanation for going to Iraq
anymore, like, but that was also

82
00:04:48,080 –> 00:04:52,520
a coordinated government effort
to lie our way into a war.

83
00:04:52,800 –> 00:04:54,600
That’s a conspiracy.
So.

84
00:04:54,680 –> 00:04:58,560
Absolutely, yeah.
And it’s so plain as day.

85
00:04:58,560 –> 00:05:01,880
And I don’t want to get into
like, oh, we’re the bad guys or

86
00:05:01,880 –> 00:05:04,960
there’s this sort of like cabal,
like controlling everything.

87
00:05:04,960 –> 00:05:08,160
But there are people who
conspire to make money at our

88
00:05:08,160 –> 00:05:12,360
expense between business,
military, industrial complex and

89
00:05:12,360 –> 00:05:14,920
the government.
Because that’s just a fact.

90
00:05:14,920 –> 00:05:18,520
I mean, I if you can’t see that,
then you might not be able to

91
00:05:18,520 –> 00:05:19,320
see much.
I don’t know.

92
00:05:19,680 –> 00:05:21,960
Yeah.
That said, I think for me,

93
00:05:21,960 –> 00:05:25,320
especially when we’re looking at
like the UAP phenomenon now as

94
00:05:25,320 –> 00:05:28,960
opposed to when we were growing
up in the 80s or even, you know,

95
00:05:28,960 –> 00:05:33,480
pre that in the 60s with the Red
Scare, etcetera, etcetera, seems

96
00:05:33,480 –> 00:05:36,160
to me that it’s really like,
hey, look over here.

97
00:05:36,200 –> 00:05:38,160
So we don’t see what’s going on
over there.

98
00:05:38,480 –> 00:05:41,400
Yeah.
And there’s a really good quote

99
00:05:41,400 –> 00:05:45,360
I found in I’ll find it for you.
It might have been in the New

100
00:05:45,360 –> 00:05:50,240
York Times or even the Guardian
baby where a journalist was

101
00:05:50,240 –> 00:05:52,360
talking with the head of General
Electric.

102
00:05:52,480 –> 00:05:54,880
And it was at one of those close
meetings where everybody’s

103
00:05:54,880 –> 00:05:57,040
drinking and having a good time,
and they’re showing, like, what

104
00:05:57,040 –> 00:05:58,400
they have coming up in the
future.

105
00:05:58,600 –> 00:06:02,080
And at that conference meeting,
whatever you want to call it.

106
00:06:02,760 –> 00:06:04,840
One of the things that the head
of General Electric says is

107
00:06:04,840 –> 00:06:08,160
they’re always 50 years ahead of
whatever the public thinks the

108
00:06:08,480 –> 00:06:10,560
consensus of technology is.
Yeah.

109
00:06:10,920 –> 00:06:15,160
And in that case who knows what
the fuck we technology we have

110
00:06:15,160 –> 00:06:16,760
right now that we just don’t
know about.

111
00:06:16,960 –> 00:06:19,200
Oh yeah.
And you know maybe we have

112
00:06:19,200 –> 00:06:21,480
something like a Tic Tac thing
that’s flying around like a

113
00:06:21,480 –> 00:06:24,160
drone that’s some advanced
technology and they’re just like

114
00:06:24,720 –> 00:06:27,040
yeah, we don’t really want China
or Russia to know about that or

115
00:06:27,040 –> 00:06:31,560
Iran.
So let’s call it a UAP because

116
00:06:31,560 –> 00:06:34,800
key point, UAP does not mean
extraterrestrial nor never

117
00:06:34,800 –> 00:06:37,480
really did UFO.
This means don’t know what it

118
00:06:37,480 –> 00:06:40,040
is.
And I think that gets to a point

119
00:06:40,040 –> 00:06:45,240
or talked about earlier like I’m
not from the point of view that

120
00:06:45,360 –> 00:06:48,440
we’re alone in the universe.
I like, not that I’m a

121
00:06:48,440 –> 00:06:51,560
mathematician, but it’s probably
mathematically impossible that

122
00:06:51,760 –> 00:06:54,760
there are planets out there were
primates also evolved into

123
00:06:55,240 –> 00:06:57,920
humans like we did because
there’s just billions and

124
00:06:57,920 –> 00:07:00,000
trillions of opportunities for
that to happen.

125
00:07:00,360 –> 00:07:02,680
Or dogs did.
Or, you know, dinosaurs are

126
00:07:02,680 –> 00:07:04,720
still on some planets or, I
don’t know, diamonds did.

127
00:07:05,040 –> 00:07:07,880
There’s so many possibilities
out there, so I don’t deny that.

128
00:07:08,040 –> 00:07:11,880
But thinking that they would
come here now always feels like

129
00:07:11,920 –> 00:07:14,360
hubris to me.
Like, why are we so special?

130
00:07:14,720 –> 00:07:18,480
Yeah, and it.
I mean, people have proposed

131
00:07:18,480 –> 00:07:22,240
theories for that and every one
of them does revolve around like

132
00:07:22,440 –> 00:07:27,520
us being the most important,
like if there’s other life out

133
00:07:27,520 –> 00:07:30,400
there, like everyone’s fucking
with us, like they they really

134
00:07:30,400 –> 00:07:33,920
want to come check us out.
And I don’t know.

135
00:07:34,120 –> 00:07:39,880
I I feel like it could go either
way in terms of like, if aliens

136
00:07:39,880 –> 00:07:42,880
are a thing, like have they been
here?

137
00:07:42,880 –> 00:07:45,360
Because there’s, I mean, there’s
theories that they’ve always

138
00:07:45,720 –> 00:07:51,240
been here, but what always
concerns me about those theories

139
00:07:51,320 –> 00:07:56,600
is they somehow always boil down
to, oh, and also the Jews.

140
00:07:57,080 –> 00:08:00,240
It’s like, wait, what?
How, how do we get here?

141
00:08:00,800 –> 00:08:05,840
And even with all of this
current UAP stuff, there are

142
00:08:05,840 –> 00:08:09,360
documentaries out there.
We covered one not too long ago

143
00:08:09,360 –> 00:08:12,600
called UFOs in the intelligence
community.

144
00:08:12,760 –> 00:08:17,080
And there was a guy for one
thing like they have actual,

145
00:08:17,080 –> 00:08:21,040
like intelligence.
Like like ex intelligence agents

146
00:08:21,200 –> 00:08:24,720
which for starters, like you
said, like why are you trusting

147
00:08:24,720 –> 00:08:27,920
this documentary?
It’s all it’s all CIA that

148
00:08:27,920 –> 00:08:32,640
they’re interviewing and like
the one agent who seems like the

149
00:08:32,640 –> 00:08:36,640
good guy, CIA.
Like, he’s this kindly old Asian

150
00:08:36,640 –> 00:08:42,080
dude, but he’s also CIA.
And at one point he just like

151
00:08:42,080 –> 00:08:45,960
takes this hard pivot in his
like, yeah, also there’s like

152
00:08:45,960 –> 00:08:51,480
hybrid humans out there who have
been like in imparted with alien

153
00:08:51,480 –> 00:08:56,640
DNA and you can like see it in
their DNA and it’s like, oh,

154
00:08:56,640 –> 00:08:59,160
that’s not going to end in
genocide someday at all.

155
00:08:59,560 –> 00:09:02,200
Yeah, exactly.
Like, that’s scary stuff.

156
00:09:02,200 –> 00:09:06,080
Because there’s also a guy who
talks about how victims of

157
00:09:06,080 –> 00:09:09,880
aliens should get reparations.
It’s like, oh, you’re you’re

158
00:09:09,880 –> 00:09:12,360
jumping some places in line,
aren’t you, pal?

159
00:09:12,600 –> 00:09:14,960
Yeah.
It’s, it’s just, again, it

160
00:09:15,120 –> 00:09:17,280
always feels like such a
distraction because it is.

161
00:09:17,640 –> 00:09:19,960
I think about that.
It’s buzzwords that people then

162
00:09:19,960 –> 00:09:24,800
can jump on and have a belief or
a fight about right, like

163
00:09:24,800 –> 00:09:26,520
liberation.
So, I mean that is a buzzword

164
00:09:26,520 –> 00:09:29,240
that gets people’s cackles up
and you’re like forced to have

165
00:09:29,240 –> 00:09:30,720
an opinion about one way or
another.

166
00:09:30,920 –> 00:09:34,400
But again, the common
denominator, whether it’s that

167
00:09:34,560 –> 00:09:36,920
you did a great show on that
documentary, by the way those

168
00:09:36,920 –> 00:09:38,960
guys, whether it’s, you know,
the people that are on the Joe

169
00:09:38,960 –> 00:09:41,840
Rogan podcast talking about what
they saw from their, you know,

170
00:09:41,880 –> 00:09:45,720
F1 fighter to, you know, the the
fuck stick at Congress this

171
00:09:45,720 –> 00:09:50,680
year, common denominator, all
government employees active or

172
00:09:50,680 –> 00:09:53,360
inactive.
And I know, like Neil deGrasse

173
00:09:53,360 –> 00:09:55,960
Tyson has his detractors and
detractors and things like that,

174
00:09:55,960 –> 00:10:00,440
but he does make a very, very
valid point where the only only

175
00:10:00,440 –> 00:10:03,880
pictures or video we have of any
of this over the last 20 years

176
00:10:04,280 –> 00:10:07,200
is from a military plane.
I mean, there are, and this is

177
00:10:07,200 –> 00:10:11,280
no joke, a million planes in the
sky every day with people on

178
00:10:11,280 –> 00:10:13,120
those planes, with phones and
video.

179
00:10:13,320 –> 00:10:17,000
You told me not a single pilot
in the commercial airline world

180
00:10:17,360 –> 00:10:20,160
between UPS, FedEx, United,
Lufthansa, whatever.

181
00:10:20,400 –> 00:10:24,560
Not once did they see anything.
Not a single person flying on

182
00:10:24,560 –> 00:10:25,920
those planes sitting in the
window seat.

183
00:10:25,920 –> 00:10:27,760
Not once.
Never saw anything either.

184
00:10:27,960 –> 00:10:30,720
It just again, I’m not a
mathematician, but that does

185
00:10:30,720 –> 00:10:32,720
seem mathematically impossible
at this point.

186
00:10:32,880 –> 00:10:35,520
Yeah.
And even the suggestion that,

187
00:10:35,520 –> 00:10:38,520
oh, maybe they did and the
government stopped them from

188
00:10:38,520 –> 00:10:41,120
coming forward, it’s like, well,
why would they do that if

189
00:10:41,120 –> 00:10:44,120
they’re putting all these other
videos out like that?

190
00:10:44,760 –> 00:10:48,280
That makes absolutely no sense.
Yeah, if anything they’d be like

191
00:10:48,280 –> 00:10:50,800
and look, this pilot from United
Airlines caught the same thing.

192
00:10:51,000 –> 00:10:52,680
See what we’re saying?
Yeah, yeah.

193
00:10:52,720 –> 00:10:55,280
But you’re right, that doesn’t.
That never happens.

194
00:10:55,760 –> 00:10:58,560
Never happens.
And so to me, like, it is kind

195
00:10:58,560 –> 00:11:01,800
of a math game at the end of the
day, given how many of us are in

196
00:11:01,800 –> 00:11:05,360
the sky constantly.
And I know it’s very easy to

197
00:11:05,360 –> 00:11:07,640
think, oh, it can’t be that many
people because we aren’t on a

198
00:11:07,640 –> 00:11:10,960
plane every day.
But again, million flights just

199
00:11:10,960 –> 00:11:13,800
in the US, not the whole rest of
the world, you know, And you

200
00:11:13,800 –> 00:11:16,440
consider what they’re 3, 1/2
billion, just in China and

201
00:11:16,440 –> 00:11:19,920
India, they’re flying too.
So that number goes up

202
00:11:20,040 –> 00:11:23,560
massively.
And I find it just very dubious

203
00:11:23,560 –> 00:11:27,320
that only government employees
through only government videos

204
00:11:27,560 –> 00:11:31,120
that are grainy as fuck in the
age of CGI, like, oh, we don’t

205
00:11:31,120 –> 00:11:33,560
know what this is.
It doesn’t quite wash for me.

206
00:11:33,560 –> 00:11:36,520
And then you have, you know,
like the with the gas lighting.

207
00:11:36,520 –> 00:11:39,760
Part of it to me is the those
congressional hearings where

208
00:11:39,920 –> 00:11:42,880
that guy didn’t say anything.
He was like, well, I can’t this,

209
00:11:42,920 –> 00:11:44,200
I’ve seen this, but I can’t show
you.

210
00:11:44,440 –> 00:11:46,200
Yeah, that is.
That’s insane to me.

211
00:11:46,720 –> 00:11:50,560
That was even allowed to happen.
And as someone who runs what I

212
00:11:50,560 –> 00:11:54,360
would argue is a relatively
objective conspiracy theory

213
00:11:54,360 –> 00:11:57,040
podcast, shit like that always
bothers me.

214
00:11:57,120 –> 00:12:01,120
Like once I hear that once
someone is like, oh, I got all

215
00:12:01,120 –> 00:12:03,200
the evidence, can I see it?
No.

216
00:12:03,280 –> 00:12:05,040
You sure can’t.
Well, fuck you then.

217
00:12:05,040 –> 00:12:06,840
I don’t.
I kind of don’t believe you like

218
00:12:06,840 –> 00:12:08,880
that’s.
That’s like the Hunter Biden

219
00:12:08,880 –> 00:12:12,440
laptop thing.
Right, that’s a good example.

220
00:12:12,720 –> 00:12:16,360
Like Rudy Giuliani has for the
longest time been like, There’s

221
00:12:16,360 –> 00:12:19,200
so much evidence on there, like
you’re not going to believe it.

222
00:12:19,600 –> 00:12:25,280
And literally once an an actual
news outlet was like, can we see

223
00:12:25,280 –> 00:12:28,720
it please?
His actual response was, no,

224
00:12:28,960 –> 00:12:33,200
you’ll just try to debunk it all
and it’s like, yeah, man, that’s

225
00:12:33,200 –> 00:12:36,200
that’s the whole point.
Like they shouldn’t be able to

226
00:12:36,240 –> 00:12:38,600
debunk it.
All right.

227
00:12:38,800 –> 00:12:42,080
And you know it’s interesting to
me because I’m a we’ve talked

228
00:12:42,080 –> 00:12:46,320
about this before but I’m a big
JFK sort of conspiracy fun guy.

229
00:12:46,320 –> 00:12:49,480
Like I don’t don’t really get
into the whole deep state stuff.

230
00:12:49,480 –> 00:12:51,960
But you know this theory you
talk about a lot.

231
00:12:51,960 –> 00:12:55,280
But the Ballistics theory that
the, you know, the Secret

232
00:12:55,280 –> 00:12:58,840
Service agents accidentally shot
JFK from the back when the car

233
00:12:59,080 –> 00:13:01,800
hit the brakes or hit the gas
and he accidentally fires AR15,

234
00:13:01,800 –> 00:13:04,120
hit him in the back of the head
and that was the kill shot.

235
00:13:04,240 –> 00:13:07,360
That guy actually went through
the math, the physics, the

236
00:13:07,360 –> 00:13:11,320
trajectory, the evidence and
said this is most likely what

237
00:13:11,320 –> 00:13:13,920
happened based on the evidence.
Here, here’s my evidence.

238
00:13:14,040 –> 00:13:16,760
Look at it too and you can look
at it and be like this makes a

239
00:13:16,760 –> 00:13:20,720
whole lot of sense.
And OK, that is something that I

240
00:13:20,720 –> 00:13:24,320
would like to see in the UF or
sorry UAP, whether it be a

241
00:13:24,320 –> 00:13:27,800
congressional hearing or any of
these, you know, colonels or,

242
00:13:27,880 –> 00:13:31,560
you know, fighter pilots or
anybody who used to work at Area

243
00:13:31,560 –> 00:13:35,280
51 come up with.
Because nothing, not a single

244
00:13:35,280 –> 00:13:39,120
shred of anything ever comes out
that we can physically see.

245
00:13:39,360 –> 00:13:43,440
And that being said, I am, you
know, kind of reticent because

246
00:13:43,440 –> 00:13:46,040
of, again, the whole CGI and
manipulation of pictures and

247
00:13:46,040 –> 00:13:50,000
things we’ve been able to do for
decades to believe anything that

248
00:13:50,000 –> 00:13:53,040
would come from the government
that is not actually physical

249
00:13:53,040 –> 00:13:55,760
like picture or video.
It’s like you saw.

250
00:13:55,760 –> 00:13:58,480
Nope.
I’m guessing right The the movie

251
00:13:58,480 –> 00:14:00,440
that came out last year about
them trying to get a picture of

252
00:14:00,440 –> 00:14:03,320
the alien, That movie fell apart
for me at the end because it’s

253
00:14:03,320 –> 00:14:07,200
like they’re trying desperately
to get a photograph of say, UAP,

254
00:14:07,560 –> 00:14:09,120
where it’s like, who would
believe them?

255
00:14:09,360 –> 00:14:13,080
Who in 2023 would think that a
photograph would be believed?

256
00:14:13,240 –> 00:14:15,000
Yeah.
And sort of like why?

257
00:14:15,240 –> 00:14:16,200
Why?
Why?

258
00:14:17,560 –> 00:14:21,480
Yeah, that that reminds me of
that thing where when someone’s

259
00:14:21,480 –> 00:14:25,720
like, well, why would a person
lie about seeing a UFO?

260
00:14:25,720 –> 00:14:29,200
And people are like money.
It’s like, no one, no one’s

261
00:14:29,200 –> 00:14:31,920
getting rich off that.
What are you talking about?

262
00:14:32,160 –> 00:14:34,720
Yeah, but people like attention.
They like to have 15 minutes of

263
00:14:34,720 –> 00:14:35,960
fame.
You know, they want to.

264
00:14:36,640 –> 00:14:39,200
And there are all sorts of
reasons people want that stuff.

265
00:14:39,200 –> 00:14:42,720
And that’s fine.
I mean, I have a firm belief

266
00:14:42,720 –> 00:14:45,960
that a lot of the abduction
stuff from the 60s, seventies,

267
00:14:45,960 –> 00:14:48,920
80s, when people could just tell
stories and people would be

268
00:14:48,920 –> 00:14:51,640
like, wow, man, that’s wild.
People like attention.

269
00:14:51,640 –> 00:14:52,920
They like being the center of
attention.

270
00:14:52,920 –> 00:14:55,040
They like having a story and,
you know, being the cool person

271
00:14:55,040 –> 00:14:57,400
in the room.
And that’s just unique to all of

272
00:14:57,400 –> 00:14:58,760
us.
It’s not, you know, something

273
00:14:58,760 –> 00:15:01,920
that makes them malicious in
most cases.

274
00:15:01,920 –> 00:15:04,080
And don’t get me wrong, I don’t
think they’re malicious people

275
00:15:04,080 –> 00:15:07,440
or did it out of any sort of
terrible design.

276
00:15:07,480 –> 00:15:10,200
It’s just, hey, I kind of want
to jump on this cool bandwagon

277
00:15:10,200 –> 00:15:12,640
that appeals to me kind of in a
cultish way.

278
00:15:12,840 –> 00:15:17,440
Yeah, it’s like when you see,
like an elderly retired military

279
00:15:17,440 –> 00:15:21,680
guy in a documentary like this
and you’re like, whoa, why would

280
00:15:21,680 –> 00:15:23,640
that?
Why would that adorable old man

281
00:15:23,640 –> 00:15:25,120
lie?
And it’s like, ’cause he used to

282
00:15:25,120 –> 00:15:28,640
be a lying ass, 22 year old.
Exactly.

283
00:15:28,800 –> 00:15:30,520
And no one ever checked him on
it.

284
00:15:30,520 –> 00:15:32,560
So he just carried that on into
his adulthood.

285
00:15:32,560 –> 00:15:36,400
There are some truly shitty old
people in this world.

286
00:15:36,520 –> 00:15:39,240
Don’t fucking doubt that for a
second.

287
00:15:39,920 –> 00:15:40,880
They’re shitty when they’re
young.

288
00:15:40,880 –> 00:15:42,160
They’re going to be shitty when
they’re old.

289
00:15:42,360 –> 00:15:46,000
And especially if you’re talking
like a career military guy, like

290
00:15:46,000 –> 00:15:48,400
he’s not.
I mean, you’re going to get some

291
00:15:48,400 –> 00:15:52,120
whistleblowers, but you you’re
also going to get some dudes who

292
00:15:52,320 –> 00:15:55,280
someone pulled them aside and
was like, hey, we need you to go

293
00:15:55,280 –> 00:15:58,880
out and fucking tell this story
on the government’s behalf.

294
00:15:59,000 –> 00:16:01,120
Oh, for sure.
And so, and if you’re like a

295
00:16:01,640 –> 00:16:04,080
imagine you’re an officer in the
Air Force.

296
00:16:04,080 –> 00:16:07,880
You’re not just a a grunt like
you’ve gone through university

297
00:16:07,880 –> 00:16:09,480
training.
You’ve been in your whole life.

298
00:16:09,960 –> 00:16:12,920
You’ve had top secret clearance
and the government comes to you

299
00:16:12,920 –> 00:16:14,280
or just the Air Force comes to
you.

300
00:16:14,280 –> 00:16:18,240
It doesn’t even have to be some
conspiracy shady Secret Service

301
00:16:18,240 –> 00:16:20,600
organization.
It could just be, hey, this is

302
00:16:20,600 –> 00:16:22,240
your mission.
You’re going to go out and

303
00:16:22,240 –> 00:16:23,920
you’re going to go on these
podcasts and you’re going to do

304
00:16:23,920 –> 00:16:25,880
these interviews and you’re
going to say this story with

305
00:16:25,880 –> 00:16:28,160
this video.
You say no, that you’re not

306
00:16:28,160 –> 00:16:30,120
doing your job.
And for a lot of people they

307
00:16:30,120 –> 00:16:31,600
think like that this is their
job.

308
00:16:31,640 –> 00:16:33,440
They go out and they do it and
that’s that.

309
00:16:33,600 –> 00:16:36,680
Yeah.
And people like, I understand

310
00:16:36,680 –> 00:16:40,960
you want to be skeptical in
life, like, but you got to be

311
00:16:40,960 –> 00:16:43,880
skeptical of the government, too
when it comes to stuff like

312
00:16:43,880 –> 00:16:46,200
this.
And that’s the thing people fail

313
00:16:46,200 –> 00:16:49,120
to take into account.
Like we have something like 17

314
00:16:49,240 –> 00:16:52,360
intelligence agencies.
It’s like, what do you think

315
00:16:52,360 –> 00:16:55,040
they’re doing?
Like, what do you think their

316
00:16:55,040 –> 00:16:58,600
role is?
You think it’s just spying, or

317
00:16:58,600 –> 00:17:01,760
do you think they’re also maybe
out there disseminating

318
00:17:01,760 –> 00:17:06,839
misinformation like it, like
that, Like mathematically

319
00:17:06,839 –> 00:17:09,240
speaking, it has to be that also
like.

320
00:17:09,920 –> 00:17:11,720
Well, and we know propaganda
works.

321
00:17:12,000 –> 00:17:14,319
Like, it’s not like some new
thing like, oh, did you hear

322
00:17:14,319 –> 00:17:16,079
about this propaganda thing?
Do you think it will work on the

323
00:17:16,079 –> 00:17:17,000
masses?
No.

324
00:17:17,000 –> 00:17:20,040
We know it works perfectly on
the masses when used correctly.

325
00:17:20,040 –> 00:17:21,640
And sometimes it doesn’t have to
be that hard.

326
00:17:21,640 –> 00:17:24,880
I mean, I think this falls into
the UAP discourse now because

327
00:17:24,880 –> 00:17:27,880
there are so many people willing
to take up the mantle that all

328
00:17:27,880 –> 00:17:31,840
of this is real in that all you
have to do is kind of plant

329
00:17:31,840 –> 00:17:35,800
seeds and the people will will
water those seeds and they’ll

330
00:17:36,280 –> 00:17:37,640
let you know reap what that is
sown.

331
00:17:37,640 –> 00:17:40,240
And they will spread that out
into the world on their own

332
00:17:40,240 –> 00:17:44,720
accord without even the, whether
it’s a climate science service

333
00:17:44,720 –> 00:17:47,840
or the government having to push
them or pay them or hire them.

334
00:17:48,120 –> 00:17:51,640
Because people want to believe
and they want to have a story

335
00:17:51,640 –> 00:17:53,880
and they want to be cool and
they want to, you know, some of

336
00:17:53,880 –> 00:17:56,840
them want fame.
Some of them, you know, maybe

337
00:17:56,840 –> 00:17:59,760
truly believe that this is
something that’s real and need

338
00:17:59,760 –> 00:18:02,880
to tell the world, which I think
people like Tom Delong fall into

339
00:18:03,240 –> 00:18:05,920
where I think his heart is in
the right place.

340
00:18:05,920 –> 00:18:08,440
I don’t know.
I’m just assuming this from the

341
00:18:08,440 –> 00:18:11,000
way he’s talks about it.
His heart’s in the right place.

342
00:18:11,320 –> 00:18:15,280
But I would be shocked if he was
actually on a payroll anywhere.

343
00:18:15,480 –> 00:18:19,440
I think he just really believes.
And again, it’s not malicious.

344
00:18:19,440 –> 00:18:22,520
I’m not decrying him, but it’s
also like that’s part of

345
00:18:22,520 –> 00:18:24,920
clandestine services.
That’s part of propaganda.

346
00:18:25,360 –> 00:18:27,960
You know, going back to even if
you want to talk about genocide,

347
00:18:28,160 –> 00:18:32,520
like the Nazis weren’t able to
kill so many people because they

348
00:18:32,520 –> 00:18:35,160
put people on the payroll.
They were because of propaganda,

349
00:18:35,160 –> 00:18:38,480
and they got regular people to
do it without having to be

350
00:18:38,480 –> 00:18:42,400
forced to.
And that is a similar way that

351
00:18:42,400 –> 00:18:43,720
this would work, where it’s
like, hey, let’s just get

352
00:18:43,720 –> 00:18:46,040
regular people who think this is
real and they’re going to do the

353
00:18:46,040 –> 00:18:47,440
work for us.
Yeah.

354
00:18:47,680 –> 00:18:53,600
And that has been mentioned
about Tom Delong in some UFO

355
00:18:53,600 –> 00:18:56,960
documentaries out there.
I think it’s Steven Greer who is

356
00:18:56,960 –> 00:19:02,240
the one who is called Tom Delong
out mostly for just kind of like

357
00:19:02,240 –> 00:19:06,200
taking information that could be
coming from the government and

358
00:19:06,200 –> 00:19:09,840
that could be intentionally
misleading and just like running

359
00:19:09,840 –> 00:19:12,200
with it because it comes from
the government, like government

360
00:19:12,280 –> 00:19:15,040
access is a motherfucker.
Like I think that’s a big

361
00:19:15,040 –> 00:19:20,600
problem with the media right now
is so many of our bigger media

362
00:19:20,600 –> 00:19:25,360
outlets like rely on their
access to the White House when

363
00:19:25,360 –> 00:19:28,720
it comes to information and
that’s inevitably going to lead

364
00:19:28,720 –> 00:19:31,800
to them not questioning the
White House the way they should

365
00:19:32,000 –> 00:19:33,840
because they’ll lose their
access.

366
00:19:34,120 –> 00:19:36,360
Absolutely and.
That’s that’s everybody.

367
00:19:36,360 –> 00:19:39,400
That’s not just Trump or Biden
or yeah, that’s across the

368
00:19:39,400 –> 00:19:42,880
board.
Oh yeah, And yeah, there’s like,

369
00:19:42,880 –> 00:19:45,960
we’ve talked about The Mirage
Men documentary a whole bunch,

370
00:19:45,960 –> 00:19:49,440
Richard Doty.
That was his job, was to go out

371
00:19:49,520 –> 00:19:52,720
and find people who were
interested in this and if they

372
00:19:52,720 –> 00:19:56,800
were on to something.
Either way, if it was UFOs, he’d

373
00:19:56,800 –> 00:19:58,320
be like, Nah, it’s government
shit.

374
00:19:58,320 –> 00:20:01,200
And if it was government shit,
he’d be like, Nah, it’s UFOs.

375
00:20:01,560 –> 00:20:04,240
And then they would give those
people intentionally false

376
00:20:04,440 –> 00:20:06,880
information, wait for them to
publish it, and then be like,

377
00:20:06,880 –> 00:20:09,000
look at this fucking obvious
liar.

378
00:20:09,760 –> 00:20:10,400
Right.
Bullshit.

379
00:20:10,960 –> 00:20:14,120
Yeah, and that sort of goes to
the back to the MK Ultra of it,

380
00:20:14,120 –> 00:20:17,000
where it’s just like just you
just got to, you know, plant

381
00:20:17,000 –> 00:20:19,360
those seeds and the people are
going to water it themselves.

382
00:20:19,600 –> 00:20:22,720
Because you know what, LSD and
amphetamines are fun and people

383
00:20:22,720 –> 00:20:25,920
are going to take off with it.
Just like UFO conspiracies are

384
00:20:25,920 –> 00:20:28,160
fun and people are going to take
off with it because they’re, I

385
00:20:28,160 –> 00:20:31,200
mean, we’re a similar age.
I remember it being a lot of fun

386
00:20:31,200 –> 00:20:36,040
in the 80s and even into the 90s
where it was less about sort of,

387
00:20:36,240 –> 00:20:39,640
you know, malevolent government
hiding something and more about

388
00:20:39,640 –> 00:20:41,560
like, oh man, what about the
possibilities?

389
00:20:41,560 –> 00:20:44,920
Like, this could be so cool.
And now it’s sort of gotten into

390
00:20:44,920 –> 00:20:47,280
this whole thing where it’s
like, I feel like, what are they

391
00:20:47,280 –> 00:20:48,840
hiding from us?
What are they going to do to us?

392
00:20:48,840 –> 00:20:51,640
It’s going to turn into this
race war where we’re fighting

393
00:20:51,640 –> 00:20:53,440
like hybrids.
And, you know, and like you

394
00:20:53,440 –> 00:20:56,400
said, it always goes back to
some sort of Jewish conspiracy

395
00:20:56,400 –> 00:20:59,480
because we can’t get away from
that for some unfathomable

396
00:20:59,480 –> 00:21:02,920
reason.
And the fun has sort of gone

397
00:21:02,920 –> 00:21:05,120
away.
And and again, it feels very

398
00:21:05,120 –> 00:21:07,160
gaslighting as well because
they’re gaslighting us.

399
00:21:08,960 –> 00:21:11,400
And I’m not nostalgic saying,
oh, we need to go back to the

400
00:21:11,400 –> 00:21:13,680
funnel days when it was just
about, you know, Steven

401
00:21:13,680 –> 00:21:15,680
Spielberg and, you know, anal
probes.

402
00:21:15,680 –> 00:21:20,120
And that was it.
But it it was always sort of a

403
00:21:20,120 –> 00:21:22,640
bit lighter back then, while
everything was lighter and

404
00:21:23,120 –> 00:21:25,360
almost seemed more realistic
because it was.

405
00:21:25,640 –> 00:21:28,760
And here’s my point.
It was first person civilian

406
00:21:28,760 –> 00:21:30,800
testimonials.
All those people who were

407
00:21:30,800 –> 00:21:34,560
abducted weren’t old military
retirees or old Spooks from the

408
00:21:34,560 –> 00:21:38,080
CIA or, you know, some somebody
like that.

409
00:21:38,080 –> 00:21:43,360
They were like, oh, a farmer, a
logger, you know, a diner worker

410
00:21:43,400 –> 00:21:46,240
who had these experiences.
And without getting into the

411
00:21:46,240 –> 00:21:48,640
whole psychology of what they
might have been transferring

412
00:21:48,760 –> 00:21:51,200
their trauma onto, it was still
regular people.

413
00:21:51,480 –> 00:21:52,840
Right.
And that seems to have gone

414
00:21:52,840 –> 00:21:54,520
away.
I haven’t heard a single regular

415
00:21:54,520 –> 00:21:57,960
person in the last 20 years be
like, I saw a Tic Tac UFO

416
00:21:57,960 –> 00:21:59,560
outside the side of my plane.
Yeah.

417
00:22:00,120 –> 00:22:04,440
And you would think if there had
been sightings like that, they

418
00:22:04,440 –> 00:22:07,480
would be taken as a little more
credible now.

419
00:22:07,760 –> 00:22:12,880
So there’s like, I could see in
like the 80s if someone knocks

420
00:22:12,880 –> 00:22:15,960
on the New York Times door and
is like, I just saw a fucking

421
00:22:15,960 –> 00:22:18,680
UFO outside my backyard, Do you
want to see the video?

422
00:22:19,040 –> 00:22:21,000
They would slam the door in
their face.

423
00:22:21,000 –> 00:22:25,080
But now, with the government
putting out their own UFO

424
00:22:25,080 –> 00:22:28,720
videos, you’d think like any
major outlet would be like, what

425
00:22:28,720 –> 00:22:31,440
do we think of this one?
And yeah, we’re just not getting

426
00:22:31,440 –> 00:22:34,080
any of that at all.
And that’s strange.

427
00:22:34,080 –> 00:22:35,240
It’s.
Curious, right.

428
00:22:35,360 –> 00:22:39,320
We’re and again I think going
back to my, my point about the

429
00:22:39,320 –> 00:22:44,360
vastness of the universe, like I
do kind of feel why would it

430
00:22:44,360 –> 00:22:47,960
even be now like when you think
about you know the way we

431
00:22:48,120 –> 00:22:50,720
conceive time is going around
our star, right.

432
00:22:50,720 –> 00:22:52,760
That’s our view of time because
that’s what we know.

433
00:22:53,320 –> 00:22:55,720
That’s not the time in the
Galaxy or the universe.

434
00:22:56,120 –> 00:22:58,800
That’s a whole different concept
of time that is hard to even

435
00:22:58,800 –> 00:23:01,680
grasp.
Like I go away an astrophysicist

436
00:23:01,680 –> 00:23:03,600
or can explain it, but it is not
the same thing.

437
00:23:04,160 –> 00:23:07,240
And so whether they’re traveling
above the speed of light or not

438
00:23:07,240 –> 00:23:10,600
and getting here, not getting
here, ability distance, all that

439
00:23:10,600 –> 00:23:14,680
stuff aside, maybe they did come
here during that 250 million

440
00:23:14,680 –> 00:23:17,280
year period where there were
just big giant lizards on this

441
00:23:17,280 –> 00:23:20,720
planet and they’re like take
that one off, you know?

442
00:23:21,400 –> 00:23:23,280
Or maybe they came here a
billion years before that, when

443
00:23:23,280 –> 00:23:25,760
it was just volcanoes and
brainstorms, you know?

444
00:23:26,120 –> 00:23:30,040
Because that would be funny if
there’s like an official map of

445
00:23:30,040 –> 00:23:33,360
the universe somewhere that just
has us listed as the dinosaur

446
00:23:33,360 –> 00:23:34,600
planet.
Right.

447
00:23:35,320 –> 00:23:37,440
And then we fucking nuke
somebody someday and they’re

448
00:23:37,440 –> 00:23:39,840
like, what the fuck did the
dinosaurs just do?

449
00:23:40,160 –> 00:23:42,360
Holy shit.
And that could be it.

450
00:23:42,360 –> 00:23:46,200
I mean, there’s so much time
just with this planet.

451
00:23:46,200 –> 00:23:48,680
What is it, 3 1/2 billion years
or something like that?

452
00:23:48,960 –> 00:23:51,080
Yeah.
You know that’s I mean there

453
00:23:51,080 –> 00:23:55,520
could be 100 million year period
in that 3 1/2 billion years that

454
00:23:55,680 –> 00:23:59,480
maybe they were here and and
there was like there’s another

455
00:23:59,480 –> 00:24:02,000
planet, sure, something will
evolve on it one day and then

456
00:24:02,000 –> 00:24:03,840
just carried on.
Yeah.

457
00:24:03,840 –> 00:24:06,880
Even the thing where people are
like, well, it’s it’s the nukes.

458
00:24:07,000 –> 00:24:09,080
That’s what brought them here.
We naked Japan.

459
00:24:09,080 –> 00:24:11,920
And then Roswell happened
shortly thereafter.

460
00:24:12,080 –> 00:24:16,200
And then you hear these stories
of UFOs like hovering over

461
00:24:16,200 –> 00:24:19,880
nuclear silos and like all of
our nuclear silos went dead that

462
00:24:19,880 –> 00:24:21,280
night.
And it’s like, well, if they can

463
00:24:21,280 –> 00:24:23,400
do all that, why don’t they just
destroy them all?

464
00:24:23,640 –> 00:24:27,040
Like, if that’s the concern, why
wouldn’t you just come down and

465
00:24:27,040 –> 00:24:30,040
be like, Nope, we’re taking
these with us.

466
00:24:30,240 –> 00:24:33,800
Like if they can get here,
they’ve got the capability need

467
00:24:33,800 –> 00:24:35,320
to do that.
Exactly.

468
00:24:35,320 –> 00:24:38,640
And also, I mean not to be a
what about us, but if they can

469
00:24:38,640 –> 00:24:41,800
get here, do you think they
think the nuclear explosion or

470
00:24:42,120 –> 00:24:43,640
splaying an atom is that big a
deal?

471
00:24:43,640 –> 00:24:47,600
Even they must have found some
technology that’s so far beyond

472
00:24:47,840 –> 00:24:50,280
anything we can conceive.
We’re splitting the atom might

473
00:24:50,280 –> 00:24:55,200
be like primitive nothings, like
they’re only there, you know,

474
00:24:55,280 –> 00:24:58,080
they’re they might have seen
that happen on a million day.

475
00:24:58,200 –> 00:24:59,920
I’m talking about like this is
all real.

476
00:25:00,200 –> 00:25:01,840
But you know, they could have
seen that happen on a million

477
00:25:01,840 –> 00:25:04,400
other planets, a million other
times, with a million other

478
00:25:04,400 –> 00:25:06,880
evolved species that they’re
just like, Oh yeah, that’s just

479
00:25:07,000 –> 00:25:09,600
how it goes sometimes.
Yeah, that that would suck if

480
00:25:09,600 –> 00:25:11,600
they came down and were like,
guys.

481
00:25:11,800 –> 00:25:14,880
There’s a much cleaner way to
kill millions of people at once.

482
00:25:14,880 –> 00:25:18,320
Let us show you.
It doesn’t have to be like this.

483
00:25:18,880 –> 00:25:21,680
Little Nazi UFO Theory where
they’re like, wait, whose side

484
00:25:21,680 –> 00:25:25,360
were you on?
Yeah, uncomfortable.

485
00:25:26,280 –> 00:25:29,920
I do also like, there’s also the
argument where I actually kind

486
00:25:29,920 –> 00:25:32,640
of used to buy into this
argument where, you know, our

487
00:25:32,640 –> 00:25:36,240
technology advanced so much in
the last, well, since World War

488
00:25:36,480 –> 00:25:39,800
One really, you know, where
suddenly we have Bluetooth as a

489
00:25:39,800 –> 00:25:42,480
Hedy Lamar and we have you know,
microwave technology and

490
00:25:42,600 –> 00:25:46,200
etcetera, except USB, all this
technology.

491
00:25:46,480 –> 00:25:49,120
But it’s like all that stuff was
already there, like Bluetooth

492
00:25:49,160 –> 00:25:51,320
was in the sky.
We just figured out a way to use

493
00:25:51,320 –> 00:25:53,360
it.
You know, like, so technology,

494
00:25:53,640 –> 00:25:56,240
what Wi-Fi is on, was already
there in the sky.

495
00:25:56,240 –> 00:25:57,440
We just figured out a way to
harness.

496
00:25:57,440 –> 00:26:01,840
It wasn’t necessarily something
that crazy of a leap where it

497
00:26:01,840 –> 00:26:04,280
doesn’t make sense to our
physics on this planet or in

498
00:26:04,280 –> 00:26:07,600
this Galaxy or whatever you want
to call it, where that’s just

499
00:26:07,600 –> 00:26:11,040
kind of how we advance as a
species.

500
00:26:11,040 –> 00:26:16,360
You know, like we went from, you
know, rocks to swords to guns to

501
00:26:16,360 –> 00:26:18,840
bombs over a very, very long
time.

502
00:26:18,960 –> 00:26:20,920
It seems like a short amount of
time, but it really wasn’t.

503
00:26:20,920 –> 00:26:22,960
It was a long time for us,
right?

504
00:26:23,080 –> 00:26:25,840
Yeah.
And so just because I have a, a

505
00:26:25,840 –> 00:26:28,920
mouse that has a Bluetooth
connection to ausb port on my

506
00:26:28,920 –> 00:26:31,760
computer, I don’t really see how
that’s extraterrestrial

507
00:26:31,760 –> 00:26:33,520
technology.
That’s just like, hey, we

508
00:26:33,520 –> 00:26:35,640
figured out how to use a wave
that was already in the air,

509
00:26:36,000 –> 00:26:36,800
right?
Right.

510
00:26:37,040 –> 00:26:39,440
Microwaves are just, hey, we
figured out how to make water

511
00:26:39,440 –> 00:26:42,080
molecules and something new
faster through an electric, you

512
00:26:42,080 –> 00:26:44,520
know, vortex in a box, right?
Yeah.

513
00:26:44,960 –> 00:26:46,520
All this stuff is explainable,
right?

514
00:26:46,520 –> 00:26:49,720
And it might seem magical
because when it came out, it was

515
00:26:49,720 –> 00:26:51,680
like, oh wow.
You know, there’s that very

516
00:26:51,680 –> 00:26:55,560
famous story when Tesla first
showed off the remote control at

517
00:26:55,560 –> 00:26:59,040
a World’s Fair where you like
remote control the boat and

518
00:26:59,040 –> 00:27:01,920
people, like, ran away because
it was like this crazy magic.

519
00:27:01,920 –> 00:27:05,520
They thought he was a sorcerer.
It was like, no, he just figured

520
00:27:05,600 –> 00:27:08,280
out how to send a radio snake
the hole between two antenna to

521
00:27:08,280 –> 00:27:12,160
control one thing.
And you know, when you look at

522
00:27:12,160 –> 00:27:15,680
it from a science point of view,
not that crazy.

523
00:27:16,160 –> 00:27:19,200
No.
And something I think about a

524
00:27:19,200 –> 00:27:23,480
lot, and I bring up a lot, is
when the Internet started, there

525
00:27:23,480 –> 00:27:26,240
was this idea that once
something’s on the Internet,

526
00:27:26,360 –> 00:27:28,960
it’s there forever.
And that’s not true.

527
00:27:28,960 –> 00:27:32,920
Like, stop paying your GoDaddy
bills and see how long your

528
00:27:32,920 –> 00:27:37,240
Internet content stays up.
And I feel like it’s at least

529
00:27:37,240 –> 00:27:42,080
possible that there have been
civilizations out there who also

530
00:27:42,080 –> 00:27:44,320
got to the point where they were
like, paper.

531
00:27:44,680 –> 00:27:48,200
We don’t need fucking paper.
We’re storing everything in this

532
00:27:48,200 –> 00:27:51,240
fucking cloud management system,
baby.

533
00:27:51,760 –> 00:27:55,280
And then when that civilization
goes, that cloud shit goes too,

534
00:27:55,280 –> 00:27:58,000
and it’s like you were never
even fucking there.

535
00:27:58,120 –> 00:28:03,560
Like that could be us someday.
Like with how we’re moving

536
00:28:03,560 –> 00:28:08,760
toward storing shit digitally
and relying on the Internet to

537
00:28:08,760 –> 00:28:13,760
keep records like we are one
someone flipping the Internet

538
00:28:13,760 –> 00:28:17,520
switch off away from losing a
whole lot of fucking history.

539
00:28:17,920 –> 00:28:22,440
And knowledge, like the reliance
we have on things in the cloud

540
00:28:22,440 –> 00:28:25,600
just to run basic stuff.
Very few people know how to, you

541
00:28:25,600 –> 00:28:27,600
know, build a lot of things we
rely on.

542
00:28:27,600 –> 00:28:28,920
And once that’s gone, that’s
gone.

543
00:28:28,920 –> 00:28:32,600
I mean, there’s also, I always
kind of found this news.

544
00:28:32,600 –> 00:28:35,080
My old man used to say this
week, like I went to school in

545
00:28:35,080 –> 00:28:39,360
DC and we’d be driving around DC
and it’s all sort of Greco Roman

546
00:28:39,360 –> 00:28:42,520
architecture, right.
The capital, the it’s pillars

547
00:28:42,520 –> 00:28:44,600
and marvel.
And I was always like, no, this

548
00:28:44,600 –> 00:28:47,560
is really going to confuse
archaeologists in about 100,000

549
00:28:47,560 –> 00:28:49,160
years when they’re just like,
wait a minute.

550
00:28:49,600 –> 00:28:52,080
So they were over there on the
Mediterranean and then they

551
00:28:52,080 –> 00:28:54,040
disappeared for 2000 years.
And then they were over here in

552
00:28:54,040 –> 00:28:55,920
North America and then they
disappeared.

553
00:28:56,120 –> 00:29:00,480
That doesn’t make any sense
because because when you take a

554
00:29:00,480 –> 00:29:03,800
longer view of things, you’re
just like, well, then you force

555
00:29:03,800 –> 00:29:05,760
it to make sense because you’re
like, well, they must have just

556
00:29:05,760 –> 00:29:08,160
came back.
And so people would think like,

557
00:29:08,800 –> 00:29:12,040
you know, Washington, DC was
somehow a, you know, a Greco

558
00:29:12,040 –> 00:29:15,880
Roman Out outpost because, well,
the time isn’t exactly right.

559
00:29:15,880 –> 00:29:17,240
But what else could it be,
right?

560
00:29:17,440 –> 00:29:20,760
Because that’s all that’s left.
And I feel like we do that a lot

561
00:29:20,760 –> 00:29:24,560
with extraterrestrial stories.
But also the technology where

562
00:29:24,560 –> 00:29:26,680
it’s like, it’s got to be
something that we don’t

563
00:29:26,680 –> 00:29:28,600
understand because we haven’t
been told what it is yet.

564
00:29:28,600 –> 00:29:31,480
And, you know, there’s this,
like, really weird, like

565
00:29:31,480 –> 00:29:34,360
mentality was like, oh, you
know, people, people can’t keep

566
00:29:34,360 –> 00:29:35,840
secrets.
And, you know, we’d know if

567
00:29:35,840 –> 00:29:38,520
there’s some crazy technology.
It’s like, motherfucker, do you

568
00:29:38,520 –> 00:29:40,760
know how most people found out
we had the atomic bomb?

569
00:29:41,160 –> 00:29:44,040
It got dropped on their heads.
Yeah, that’s how they found out.

570
00:29:44,440 –> 00:29:47,120
That’s how the world found out.
Yeah, that’s a theory I never

571
00:29:47,120 –> 00:29:49,680
buy.
The one that says, oh, if we had

572
00:29:49,680 –> 00:29:52,600
it, we people would know it’s
like 1.

573
00:29:52,720 –> 00:29:54,960
No, they wouldn’t.
The government is actually very

574
00:29:54,960 –> 00:29:58,920
great at keeping secrets.
And two, I think once you’re

575
00:29:58,920 –> 00:30:02,480
skeptical to that level, even if
someone slid a picture of it

576
00:30:02,480 –> 00:30:05,040
across the table, you’re going
to be like, that could be

577
00:30:05,040 –> 00:30:07,840
photoshopped, like there’s for
some people.

578
00:30:07,840 –> 00:30:12,360
There’s not ever going to be any
believable or credible evidence

579
00:30:12,440 –> 00:30:16,440
on either side of the argument,
be it UFOs or something.

580
00:30:16,440 –> 00:30:20,080
The government’s hiding, like
some people just really fucking

581
00:30:20,080 –> 00:30:21,920
trust the government, and I
don’t get it.

582
00:30:22,120 –> 00:30:23,880
Like this government.
This.

583
00:30:23,880 –> 00:30:26,440
One or any, any.
I don’t trust the Canadians.

584
00:30:26,640 –> 00:30:30,280
Yeah, either.
You know, like you know it’s

585
00:30:30,280 –> 00:30:33,440
it’s funny to me because I mean
again I’m trying not to seem

586
00:30:33,440 –> 00:30:36,240
like a cynic and you know going
back to the the thing and note

587
00:30:36,240 –> 00:30:39,520
where fell apart for me or like
you said, like if I saw a

588
00:30:39,520 –> 00:30:40,920
picture.
Yeah, I probably wouldn’t

589
00:30:40,920 –> 00:30:43,600
believe it because I have a hard
time believing the Tic Tac video

590
00:30:43,600 –> 00:30:47,320
is real or has merit or
silhouetto whatever you want to

591
00:30:47,320 –> 00:30:50,320
say.
And my point being is I don’t

592
00:30:50,320 –> 00:30:53,160
know what it would take.
Like I I really don’t like.

593
00:30:53,160 –> 00:30:55,320
I’m not sure what is that
physical thing that would be

594
00:30:55,320 –> 00:30:58,840
like oh shit, this is real.
Maybe it is just them actually

595
00:30:58,840 –> 00:31:02,200
arriving, being like, hey, we’re
here bitch, and we’re going to

596
00:31:02,200 –> 00:31:04,520
blow some shit up to make sure
you understand this is real and

597
00:31:04,520 –> 00:31:07,080
then we’ll talk, you know?
Yeah, I was going to say they’d

598
00:31:07,080 –> 00:31:10,040
have to kill people for it to be
real.

599
00:31:10,080 –> 00:31:14,880
And that kind of speaks to one
of the conspiracy theories that

600
00:31:14,880 –> 00:31:19,240
is related to the idea that the
government is gaslighting us

601
00:31:19,280 –> 00:31:22,200
about all this and that it’s
actually just like government

602
00:31:22,400 –> 00:31:24,840
stuff that we’re seeing in those
videos.

603
00:31:25,000 –> 00:31:29,600
There is a like the granddaddy
of all conspiracies is the New

604
00:31:29,600 –> 00:31:31,440
World Order.
Conspiracy.

605
00:31:31,680 –> 00:31:34,520
It’s been around a while.
It’s been around a long time,

606
00:31:34,760 –> 00:31:39,840
and a big element of that
conspiracy is the idea that at

607
00:31:39,840 –> 00:31:45,280
some point the US government
specifically is going to pull a

608
00:31:45,720 –> 00:31:52,640
false flag alien attack and use
that as a means to institute A1

609
00:31:52,640 –> 00:31:56,800
world government that the United
States is the head of.

610
00:31:57,200 –> 00:31:59,680
So, Independence Day.
Yeah, basically.

611
00:31:59,840 –> 00:32:03,480
And I don’t know, like, I don’t,
I certainly don’t want it to be

612
00:32:03,480 –> 00:32:05,960
that.
But like, there’s that famous

613
00:32:06,200 –> 00:32:09,680
Wernher von Braun.
I almost said Wernher Herzog.

614
00:32:09,760 –> 00:32:14,000
Nope.
Wernher von Braun quote, where

615
00:32:14,000 –> 00:32:16,600
he basically says, like, yeah,
that’s that’s coming.

616
00:32:16,600 –> 00:32:20,360
That’s how we’re really going to
institute fascism in this

617
00:32:20,360 –> 00:32:23,800
country is through fake alien
attacks.

618
00:32:24,040 –> 00:32:27,320
Yeah, I mean, in this, it’s so
funny because in most pop

619
00:32:27,320 –> 00:32:29,360
culture that is seen as a good
thing.

620
00:32:29,360 –> 00:32:32,880
It’s like, oh, we are finally
united as one to face this

621
00:32:32,880 –> 00:32:35,480
common enemy.
And first of all, we never, we’d

622
00:32:35,480 –> 00:32:37,440
never do that.
Like, we’ve never done that in

623
00:32:37,440 –> 00:32:38,960
the past and we will never do it
in the future.

624
00:32:38,960 –> 00:32:41,640
Like we could barely unite as
one to fight the fucking Nazis

625
00:32:41,640 –> 00:32:46,280
in World War 2, you know, Like
barely happened, happened, but

626
00:32:46,280 –> 00:32:48,400
barely.
You know, we were never united

627
00:32:48,400 –> 00:32:51,040
against the Soviets.
And then we sure we sure didn’t

628
00:32:51,040 –> 00:32:53,320
keep fighting the Nazis after
World War 2.

629
00:32:54,000 –> 00:32:57,160
No, fighted them over to help us
set up the CIA.

630
00:32:57,400 –> 00:33:00,440
Yeah, NASA and fight the Soviets
and.

631
00:33:00,840 –> 00:33:04,000
Yeah.
And where were we united when we

632
00:33:04,000 –> 00:33:06,560
were quote UN quote, fighting
terrorism.

633
00:33:06,800 –> 00:33:11,440
Like, you know, there is no, I
think said this last time but I

634
00:33:11,440 –> 00:33:14,760
don’t even see us being as
united as we were in World War

635
00:33:14,760 –> 00:33:18,400
2, which it wasn’t universal.
I don’t even see us being that

636
00:33:18,400 –> 00:33:19,120
united.
Now.

637
00:33:19,120 –> 00:33:22,440
If there was a threat like
aliens, I there would probably

638
00:33:22,440 –> 00:33:25,240
be just as many people.
It’s like, ah, it’s fake, man.

639
00:33:25,480 –> 00:33:28,000
Like it’s not real.
They’re just trying to like, you

640
00:33:28,040 –> 00:33:30,040
know, get our resources to trick
us and.

641
00:33:30,280 –> 00:33:37,400
Well, like maybe that right now
is the other half of the UFO

642
00:33:37,400 –> 00:33:39,320
debate.
Like, there’s one side that’s

643
00:33:39,320 –> 00:33:43,480
like, yeah, man, these these
aliens are, they’re really,

644
00:33:43,480 –> 00:33:46,240
really bad.
And we got this is going to be a

645
00:33:46,240 –> 00:33:47,400
problem.
We’re going to have to fight

646
00:33:47,400 –> 00:33:49,120
them.
And then there’s another side of

647
00:33:49,120 –> 00:33:53,680
that community that’s like those
motherfuckers are lying and none

648
00:33:53,680 –> 00:33:58,120
of this is UFOs.
This is government shit and they

649
00:33:58,120 –> 00:34:00,400
are.
This is going to be a false flag

650
00:34:00,400 –> 00:34:02,600
thing.
That’s not going to change once

651
00:34:02,600 –> 00:34:04,360
this happens.
No.

652
00:34:04,480 –> 00:34:07,800
Like once they show up, that
half is still going to be like,

653
00:34:07,960 –> 00:34:10,480
this is the government and the
other half is going to be like,

654
00:34:11,239 –> 00:34:12,440
run.
They’re here.

655
00:34:12,560 –> 00:34:14,800
And here’s the thing, they could
both be right.

656
00:34:14,880 –> 00:34:16,719
Like, if the government does it,
they are going to kill some

657
00:34:16,719 –> 00:34:18,080
people.
So you will have to run.

658
00:34:18,239 –> 00:34:20,199
Yeah.
And that’s that’s sort of the

659
00:34:20,480 –> 00:34:23,080
the thing where it does become
the level of where so many

660
00:34:23,080 –> 00:34:26,080
people are going to die for so
many stupid reasons.

661
00:34:26,639 –> 00:34:30,080
And it’s just this continual.
Like what would be better for

662
00:34:30,080 –> 00:34:33,760
the military industrial complex,
but not only a forever war, but

663
00:34:33,800 –> 00:34:37,400
a forever a forever war against
the enemy that doesn’t even

664
00:34:37,400 –> 00:34:41,000
really exist.
Yeah, And that is what concerns

665
00:34:41,000 –> 00:34:44,400
me so much about those
suggestions about being able to

666
00:34:44,400 –> 00:34:49,560
see in someone’s DNA if they’ve
been enhanced by aliens.

667
00:34:49,560 –> 00:34:53,000
Like that’s what people don’t
take into account about that

668
00:34:53,000 –> 00:34:56,280
idea of, Oh well, once we
finally see it, it’s going to

669
00:34:56,280 –> 00:34:59,200
unite us all.
It’s like, unite us all in what?

670
00:34:59,360 –> 00:35:02,080
Yeah.
Is it going to be administering

671
00:35:02,080 –> 00:35:06,000
DNA test to people and
eliminating them from society?

672
00:35:06,200 –> 00:35:09,040
Like, is that what it’s going to
unite us in?

673
00:35:09,040 –> 00:35:11,280
Because that sounds very, very
scary.

674
00:35:11,760 –> 00:35:15,000
It’s also a really good thing
we’ve all been, you know, paying

675
00:35:15,160 –> 00:35:18,480
to give our DNA to companies
that now are owned by

676
00:35:18,480 –> 00:35:20,520
Blackwater.
I mean, I’m sure that will come

677
00:35:20,520 –> 00:35:22,360
back to bite us in the ass.
At all.

678
00:35:22,440 –> 00:35:25,800
That is so insane to me.
And it’s like, you’re fucked

679
00:35:25,800 –> 00:35:28,480
either way, because you probably
got a family member out there

680
00:35:28,480 –> 00:35:30,960
who’s done it, and that’s
enough.

681
00:35:31,720 –> 00:35:33,440
Like that’s getting serial
killers caught.

682
00:35:33,440 –> 00:35:38,960
It’s like, like, what if they
can see that alien DNA in an

683
00:35:38,960 –> 00:35:42,160
entire family based on one
person’s DNA?

684
00:35:42,160 –> 00:35:45,480
Like, yeah, I don’t.
I don’t know why people think

685
00:35:45,480 –> 00:35:49,040
those DNA registries aren’t
going to be used to round people

686
00:35:49,040 –> 00:35:51,480
up at some .0.
For sure.

687
00:35:51,480 –> 00:35:53,440
I mean, it’s we’re making it
almost too easy.

688
00:35:53,920 –> 00:35:56,600
I, I, It’s such a dark thing to
say, but you you used to have to

689
00:35:56,600 –> 00:36:00,360
work hard to like, made a
genocide against a specific

690
00:36:00,360 –> 00:36:03,760
group of people, like years of
propaganda and years of riling

691
00:36:03,760 –> 00:36:06,480
people up and then actually
carrying it out while keeping

692
00:36:06,480 –> 00:36:08,440
people riled up.
Now it’s just like, Oh no,

693
00:36:08,440 –> 00:36:10,800
here’s the here’s your call
sheet, there’s your list.

694
00:36:10,800 –> 00:36:11,600
Go off.
Do it.

695
00:36:11,760 –> 00:36:15,240
Yeah, that’s it’s a terrifying
thing to think about.

696
00:36:15,280 –> 00:36:20,280
And I don’t know, like, I think
one of the big problems is, so

697
00:36:20,640 –> 00:36:23,120
if that’s happening, who’s going
to do anything about it?

698
00:36:23,440 –> 00:36:26,680
Like it’s not.
That seems like an unstoppable

699
00:36:26,680 –> 00:36:31,760
force at this point.
Like we are hungry for some

700
00:36:31,760 –> 00:36:35,600
genocide in this country.
It seems like like someone’s

701
00:36:35,600 –> 00:36:39,440
going to fucking get it soon.
No pun intended, but it is in

702
00:36:39,440 –> 00:36:42,040
our DNA to do some badass
genocide.

703
00:36:42,200 –> 00:36:46,120
Yeah, it sure is.
Like I would even argue, private

704
00:36:46,120 –> 00:36:50,360
prisons have been a little bit
of a genocide, especially when

705
00:36:50,360 –> 00:36:54,360
you consider that a lot of the
crimes that filled those private

706
00:36:54,360 –> 00:36:58,080
prisons happened because of
drugs that we death, definitely

707
00:36:58,080 –> 00:37:02,080
did not introduce to the
impoverished communities of the

708
00:37:02,080 –> 00:37:04,120
United States.
Of course not.

709
00:37:04,720 –> 00:37:06,720
The CIA doesn’t work in the
United States.

710
00:37:07,080 –> 00:37:08,520
No, never.
Never.

711
00:37:08,800 –> 00:37:10,800
Never.
Yeah, that’s what’s funny, man.

712
00:37:10,800 –> 00:37:13,840
It’s like not funny, guys.
Tragic is the right word, is

713
00:37:13,840 –> 00:37:16,160
that we’re kind of fucked if
they’re real and fucked if

714
00:37:16,160 –> 00:37:18,720
they’re not.
Like there’s no, it almost

715
00:37:18,720 –> 00:37:21,680
doesn’t matter, which I think is
the most cynical thing I’ve said

716
00:37:21,680 –> 00:37:24,680
on this this podcast.
But going back to my point about

717
00:37:24,680 –> 00:37:27,200
the 80s and when it was fun,
that’s just gone away like it

718
00:37:27,200 –> 00:37:28,640
used to.
I used to think, oh, it’d be fun

719
00:37:28,640 –> 00:37:30,720
to know now I’m just like, oh,
we’re just fucked if we ever

720
00:37:30,720 –> 00:37:32,640
find out.
Because it’s not going to end

721
00:37:32,640 –> 00:37:35,040
well.
People will go crazy, people

722
00:37:35,040 –> 00:37:38,040
won’t go crazy.
And then the whole world will

723
00:37:38,040 –> 00:37:41,040
change in a way that I don’t
think people appreciate.

724
00:37:41,160 –> 00:37:47,040
Given the fact that in our era
of unfettered capitalism and so

725
00:37:47,040 –> 00:37:49,880
much money to be made off of
pain, which of course there are

726
00:37:49,880 –> 00:37:52,480
1,000,000 examples we’re seeing
all over the world from our

727
00:37:52,480 –> 00:37:57,480
media to Somalia to Ukraine to
Gaza to the list goes on and on,

728
00:37:57,640 –> 00:38:01,360
we make money off of pain.
And people are happy about that.

729
00:38:01,360 –> 00:38:04,320
Like the amount of, you know,
articles you see the Wall Street

730
00:38:04,320 –> 00:38:07,240
Journal or Financial Times
about, dude, did you buy

731
00:38:07,240 –> 00:38:09,120
Raytheon?
Because you’d be rich right now

732
00:38:09,120 –> 00:38:12,560
if you bought Raytheon stock.
You know you want some Boeing,

733
00:38:12,560 –> 00:38:15,320
some Lockheed Martin.
Make some money right now and

734
00:38:15,680 –> 00:38:17,400
it’s with a straight face.
Yeah.

735
00:38:17,720 –> 00:38:20,760
And those people would have the
same straight face where it’s

736
00:38:20,760 –> 00:38:22,720
like we’re fighting aliens.
Are they real?

737
00:38:22,720 –> 00:38:23,920
Who gives a shit?
We’re making money.

738
00:38:24,240 –> 00:38:28,880
Yeah, should invest in DNA
registries right now, now that

739
00:38:28,880 –> 00:38:31,720
it’s mandatory they’re going to
be making a killing.

740
00:38:33,040 –> 00:38:35,880
Oh man.
And the it’s it’s Yeah, it’s

741
00:38:35,880 –> 00:38:37,040
just tragic.
It’s not even funny.

742
00:38:37,040 –> 00:38:39,120
It’s tragic.
And it used to be like, what?

743
00:38:39,200 –> 00:38:42,280
Like, remember Area 51?
Like, you know, maybe it was

744
00:38:42,280 –> 00:38:46,000
UFOs, but I think we all knew it
was just like a place where they

745
00:38:46,360 –> 00:38:48,840
did research, right?
Yeah, like it was a research

746
00:38:48,840 –> 00:38:49,960
site.
Maybe they had some

747
00:38:49,960 –> 00:38:52,200
extraterrestrials there.
Anyway, it was fun.

748
00:38:52,240 –> 00:38:54,960
Who cares?
Now they almost got people to

749
00:38:54,960 –> 00:38:58,560
storm it a couple years ago.
Yeah, which was wild to me.

750
00:38:58,760 –> 00:39:02,200
I love that idea that they can’t
shoot us all.

751
00:39:02,480 –> 00:39:06,960
It’s like get ready to guy by
alien technology.

752
00:39:06,960 –> 00:39:09,640
That’s actually just government
technology that they want to

753
00:39:09,680 –> 00:39:12,760
test on a crowd rushing Area 51.
Yeah.

754
00:39:12,760 –> 00:39:14,760
And there is that viabity.
You hear it.

755
00:39:14,800 –> 00:39:19,200
I was listening to some podcast
like everybody down, but there

756
00:39:19,200 –> 00:39:22,040
it was talking about the, you
know, the Cuba, Moscow thing

757
00:39:22,040 –> 00:39:24,800
where the diplomats were getting
like severe headaches.

758
00:39:24,800 –> 00:39:27,080
And shame and sick.
Yeah, Havana Syndrome.

759
00:39:27,560 –> 00:39:29,920
And on that pocket it was like,
oh, that technology doesn’t

760
00:39:29,920 –> 00:39:31,440
exist.
There’s no, there’s there’s

761
00:39:31,440 –> 00:39:33,640
nothing that would do that.
It was like, have you heard of,

762
00:39:33,640 –> 00:39:37,440
like sound guns where they they
have a ray that literally makes

763
00:39:37,440 –> 00:39:39,720
you shake your pants, it makes
you throw up and gives you a

764
00:39:39,720 –> 00:39:41,720
stroke from just the sound
waves.

765
00:39:42,200 –> 00:39:45,200
And like, there’s companies that
sell this to the military to

766
00:39:45,200 –> 00:39:47,240
police that you can easily look
up.

767
00:39:47,440 –> 00:39:51,960
And this shit has existed for
not only years, decades.

768
00:39:52,720 –> 00:39:56,920
And I guarantee you places like
Area 51 have shit like that

769
00:39:56,920 –> 00:40:00,520
posted on fence posts so well,
they used they used it at

770
00:40:00,520 –> 00:40:02,240
Standing Rock against the
Indians when they were

771
00:40:02,240 –> 00:40:04,240
protesting the oil pipeline.
You don’t think they’ll use it

772
00:40:04,240 –> 00:40:07,600
against you?
Yeah and yeah, I think

773
00:40:07,800 –> 00:40:11,240
Guantanamo is probably another
thing like that.

774
00:40:11,240 –> 00:40:15,600
I feel like at least half of
Guantanamo was just, Oh well, we

775
00:40:15,600 –> 00:40:18,240
need some place to test all this
shit on people.

776
00:40:18,440 –> 00:40:24,200
And if we can just throw like 15
people who we vaguely accused of

777
00:40:24,200 –> 00:40:29,280
being involved in 9/11 and lock
them up in Cuba forever.

778
00:40:29,400 –> 00:40:33,000
Oh, the tests we could run like
we just talked about recently on

779
00:40:33,000 –> 00:40:35,960
an episode.
There was a guy who for one is

780
00:40:36,160 –> 00:40:39,760
was just now finally going to
trial for having been involved

781
00:40:39,760 –> 00:40:41,520
in 9/11.
It’s like no rush.

782
00:40:41,520 –> 00:40:47,040
But also a judge ruled him unfit
for trial because the CIA had,

783
00:40:47,040 –> 00:40:49,800
like, tortured him.
Stupid to the point that he,

784
00:40:49,800 –> 00:40:54,040
like, can’t really talk anymore
and like his initial.

785
00:40:54,600 –> 00:40:56,920
Like his pure evil to me.
Like pure evil.

786
00:40:57,240 –> 00:41:01,600
And like his initial complaints,
when were things like they’re

787
00:41:01,760 –> 00:41:04,200
they’re just pointing ray guns
at me all day.

788
00:41:04,400 –> 00:41:07,800
And like people were like, see,
he was clearly losing his his

789
00:41:07,800 –> 00:41:09,200
mind.
And it’s like, no, I think

790
00:41:09,200 –> 00:41:11,280
that’s probably what was
happening.

791
00:41:11,480 –> 00:41:15,400
And with Havana syndrome when
people are like, oh, who would

792
00:41:15,400 –> 00:41:18,560
be doing it though?
It’s like the fucking CIA is

793
00:41:18,560 –> 00:41:22,440
doing it like you think they’re
opposed to testing shit like

794
00:41:22,440 –> 00:41:25,200
that on their own people,
especially if they think it’s

795
00:41:25,200 –> 00:41:28,640
not going to kill them.
Like they were slipping LSD to

796
00:41:28,640 –> 00:41:32,760
every fucking tongue they could
get their fingertips on in the

797
00:41:32,760 –> 00:41:36,040
50s and 60s.
And you think like, for them to

798
00:41:36,040 –> 00:41:39,680
test it on anyone else would be
an act of war?

799
00:41:39,840 –> 00:41:43,880
Like they have to test it on
Americans.

800
00:41:44,360 –> 00:41:47,920
And like you’d never see that
coming CIA attacking their own

801
00:41:47,920 –> 00:41:50,440
CIA base with some kind of new
weapon.

802
00:41:50,440 –> 00:41:52,160
But fucking of course they
would.

803
00:41:52,360 –> 00:41:53,560
Yeah.
Oh, I mean, we’re handing out

804
00:41:53,640 –> 00:41:56,480
greenies to U.S. soldiers in
World War 2 like they were candy

805
00:41:56,760 –> 00:41:59,040
to see what would happen.
You know, like we’ve always

806
00:41:59,040 –> 00:42:02,080
tested on ourselves.
I mean, that’s like you said, it

807
00:42:02,080 –> 00:42:04,160
would be an act of war if we
tested it on someone else.

808
00:42:04,600 –> 00:42:07,120
Not that I think that would
matter at this point, because.

809
00:42:07,120 –> 00:42:09,560
No, we would do that.
What’s needed to What’s the

810
00:42:09,560 –> 00:42:11,880
world going to do at this point?
We could fucking we could

811
00:42:11,880 –> 00:42:14,720
probably drop a bomb in the
middle of Germany and be like,

812
00:42:14,840 –> 00:42:18,720
oopsie and that would be it.
Yeah, like, what would Germany

813
00:42:18,720 –> 00:42:20,960
do?
That’s why we elected Trump as

814
00:42:20,960 –> 00:42:23,280
our president.
We are the Trump of countries

815
00:42:23,520 –> 00:42:26,160
like, yeah.
Yeah, well, we got RFK coming

816
00:42:26,160 –> 00:42:30,080
now, so.
I feel like it could happen and

817
00:42:30,080 –> 00:42:31,280
I don’t like it.
No.

818
00:42:31,320 –> 00:42:35,240
And he’s, I feel like he would
be very much on the UF or UAP

819
00:42:35,840 –> 00:42:39,640
extraterrestrial invasion train
because he’d probably be one of

820
00:42:39,640 –> 00:42:42,440
the ones that actually believed
it and was the one who spread

821
00:42:42,520 –> 00:42:46,000
the gospel without them actually
having to turn him because he’s

822
00:42:46,280 –> 00:42:50,680
not a great man.
No, no, He’s a he’s a problem in

823
00:42:50,680 –> 00:42:53,000
a Matt.
Like if you told me in the 90s

824
00:42:53,200 –> 00:42:57,440
that one Donald Trump was going
to be our president and it would

825
00:42:57,440 –> 00:43:02,040
fuck up our country a whole lot,
I’d probably believe that, Yeah.

826
00:43:02,440 –> 00:43:04,600
But then if you were like, and
then a Kennedy is going to come

827
00:43:04,600 –> 00:43:07,240
along and it’s going to get so
much worse, I’d be like a

828
00:43:07,240 –> 00:43:10,600
Kennedy.
No, they’re pretty chill, right?

829
00:43:10,840 –> 00:43:12,040
Yeah.
You want to know something

830
00:43:12,040 –> 00:43:14,120
chilling.
So I I chilling, chilling.

831
00:43:14,120 –> 00:43:18,160
I went to vote as in the morning
at the high school here and I

832
00:43:18,160 –> 00:43:20,880
noticed there’s a I’ve been a
very sort of purple county in

833
00:43:20,880 –> 00:43:22,640
Kentucky.
So pretty liberal.

834
00:43:22,640 –> 00:43:24,720
A lot of you know kindness is
the answer.

835
00:43:24,880 –> 00:43:28,200
Placards in on front of houses
and you know everybody all that

836
00:43:28,200 –> 00:43:32,680
stuff and and Andy Beshear you
know posters and and signs in

837
00:43:32,680 –> 00:43:36,000
most yards went to vote.
Came back that morning I would

838
00:43:36,000 –> 00:43:40,160
say, and this is of course just
anecdotal of what I saw, but

839
00:43:40,160 –> 00:43:45,440
most of the Andy Beshear signs
had changed to RFK signs between

840
00:43:45,640 –> 00:43:47,840
before the election and after.
I don’t like that.

841
00:43:48,040 –> 00:43:50,600
That’s not good, man, because
those didn’t change to Biden

842
00:43:50,600 –> 00:43:52,680
signs.
They changed RFK signs.

843
00:43:52,680 –> 00:43:55,720
And this is a very rich,
educated county in Kentucky,

844
00:43:55,720 –> 00:43:57,000
which take that for what you
will.

845
00:43:57,200 –> 00:44:00,800
But that’s not a good sign,
dude, because that was in 2015

846
00:44:00,800 –> 00:44:03,720
when I went home to Mason County
in Washington.

847
00:44:03,880 –> 00:44:06,800
When I saw all those Trump
signs, it was like, oh, this

848
00:44:06,960 –> 00:44:11,760
isn’t going to end well.
Yeah, now that RFK is running as

849
00:44:11,760 –> 00:44:15,040
an independent, that really
changes everything.

850
00:44:15,040 –> 00:44:17,680
Because when he was trying to
run as a Democrat, I was like,

851
00:44:18,560 –> 00:44:23,240
cute, that’s not going to work.
But now, and with all these

852
00:44:23,240 –> 00:44:26,280
polls coming out, like, hey,
he’s pulling ahead of both of

853
00:44:26,280 –> 00:44:30,000
them, it’s like, fuck, I could
totally see that happening.

854
00:44:30,240 –> 00:44:33,840
And he’s, he’s a spreader of
misinformation.

855
00:44:33,840 –> 00:44:37,000
He’s the perfect candidate for
the military industrial complex

856
00:44:37,000 –> 00:44:39,920
to be like, Mr. President, the
aliens have arrived.

857
00:44:40,120 –> 00:44:41,760
We need to do something now.
Yeah.

858
00:44:42,080 –> 00:44:45,520
And he’ll jump into action of
like, are they putting the, are

859
00:44:45,520 –> 00:44:47,080
they putting the bad things in
the vaccine?

860
00:44:47,080 –> 00:44:51,120
Because we’ll stop that first,
you know, Again, not a bright

861
00:44:51,120 –> 00:44:52,040
man.
Yeah.

862
00:44:52,240 –> 00:44:54,160
Do you think he would get
assassinated?

863
00:44:54,320 –> 00:44:56,760
That would just be such a
fucking.

864
00:44:57,960 –> 00:45:02,440
Irony right there.
Because I I loathe to think who

865
00:45:02,440 –> 00:45:04,800
his VP would be.
Oh my God.

866
00:45:05,280 –> 00:45:08,920
Probably some like Steve Bannon
or some shit.

867
00:45:09,280 –> 00:45:12,400
And next thing, no President
Steve Bannon.

868
00:45:12,560 –> 00:45:15,920
Yeah, it will be somebody wild
and like somebody.

869
00:45:16,520 –> 00:45:18,960
It’s not going to be good.
Not going to be good at all And

870
00:45:20,200 –> 00:45:23,600
and yeah, sort of getting back
on topic, how do you sort of

871
00:45:23,600 –> 00:45:26,800
feel like, you know you’re
Privy, this stuff, You keep up

872
00:45:26,800 –> 00:45:29,680
with a lot of the information.
Like, how would you feel?

873
00:45:29,680 –> 00:45:34,040
Like if, say, tomorrow morning,
it kicked off CNN, you know,

874
00:45:34,480 –> 00:45:38,280
MSNBCRTE, Deutsche Vela, all
those, like, they’re here.

875
00:45:38,440 –> 00:45:40,760
We don’t know what’s going on.
What would it take for you to

876
00:45:40,760 –> 00:45:42,840
believe that it was real?
Or would you just be like, oh

877
00:45:42,880 –> 00:45:46,560
shit, it’s it’s real.
Well, here’s here’s the thing.

878
00:45:46,760 –> 00:45:52,200
It’s it’s almost like God.
It doesn’t matter if you think

879
00:45:52,200 –> 00:45:56,160
God is real.
God is such a presence in the

880
00:45:56,160 –> 00:46:00,640
world and fuels so many people’s
decisions and beliefs that God

881
00:46:00,640 –> 00:46:02,520
is real whether you like it or
not.

882
00:46:02,960 –> 00:46:05,440
Absolutely, yeah.
And it would kind of be the same

883
00:46:05,440 –> 00:46:07,800
thing.
Like whether it’s the government

884
00:46:07,800 –> 00:46:11,920
doing it or if it’s aliens doing
it, the end results gonna be the

885
00:46:11,920 –> 00:46:15,120
same thing.
So my initial reaction would

886
00:46:15,120 –> 00:46:18,720
just be fuck.
Yeah, if I die in the first

887
00:46:18,720 –> 00:46:21,120
blast.
Yeah, this is gonna be bad.

888
00:46:21,200 –> 00:46:25,920
And it would almost, I think, be
worse if they just show up and

889
00:46:25,920 –> 00:46:28,400
want to talk.
Like it would almost be better

890
00:46:28,400 –> 00:46:32,440
if it’s just war right away.
Because I don’t.

891
00:46:32,680 –> 00:46:36,520
Again, that thing about alien
DNA really makes me nervous

892
00:46:36,520 –> 00:46:40,880
because again, that comes from
American intelligence in that

893
00:46:41,000 –> 00:46:44,240
documentary.
And if that story comes out

894
00:46:44,240 –> 00:46:48,520
that, hey, there are those among
us who have a little extra in

895
00:46:48,520 –> 00:46:53,800
them because of the aliens, and
that is bad for society, and

896
00:46:53,800 –> 00:46:57,680
that is why everything that’s
wrong in society is wrong like

897
00:46:57,880 –> 00:47:00,720
that.
And again, what are we uniting

898
00:47:00,720 –> 00:47:02,040
around?
It could be that.

899
00:47:02,440 –> 00:47:05,120
And we’ve as a species done so
much worse.

900
00:47:05,160 –> 00:47:07,800
I mean, go to Khmer Rouge and
look up pull pot.

901
00:47:08,080 –> 00:47:12,840
People who wore glasses were
rounded up and genocide glasses.

902
00:47:13,120 –> 00:47:18,400
You know, we we like It can be
that simple and it’s terrifying.

903
00:47:18,600 –> 00:47:21,320
But yeah, I I agree with you.
I don’t think it would matter if

904
00:47:21,320 –> 00:47:22,680
it was real or not.
It’s just like, well, we’re

905
00:47:23,360 –> 00:47:26,320
fucked either way.
I would though, if it was the

906
00:47:26,320 –> 00:47:29,920
80s, me, I would very much be
like, can I just go with you

907
00:47:29,920 –> 00:47:32,280
guys?
If it was real, can I just

908
00:47:32,280 –> 00:47:35,880
leave?
Like, can it take me anywhere?

909
00:47:36,240 –> 00:47:37,240
I just want to see what’s out
there.

910
00:47:37,600 –> 00:47:40,320
Maybe my face will melt off from
the friction of travelling at

911
00:47:40,320 –> 00:47:40,920
that speed.
But.

912
00:47:41,720 –> 00:47:44,920
Yeah, it I think it would also
kind of be a relief.

913
00:47:45,360 –> 00:47:49,360
Like, just fine.
OK, let’s whatever this has been

914
00:47:49,360 –> 00:47:52,240
building up to, let’s get it
over with.

915
00:47:53,240 –> 00:47:57,520
And yeah, I’d be interested to
see what comes out of that craft

916
00:47:57,680 –> 00:48:00,200
man.
Back when Dane Cook was funny,

917
00:48:00,280 –> 00:48:04,400
he had a really good joke about
that where he was like, what if

918
00:48:04,640 –> 00:48:09,680
UFOs land on the White House
lawn and a bunch of 100 foot

919
00:48:09,680 –> 00:48:13,600
tall Native Americans get out
and it’s like, oh we’re fucked,

920
00:48:13,600 –> 00:48:16,400
God damn it.
Ah, damn it.

921
00:48:17,200 –> 00:48:22,960
And I would just be like score.
I would also kind of be like,

922
00:48:23,000 –> 00:48:27,560
oh, this is funny this we’re all
going to die and we deserve it.

923
00:48:27,600 –> 00:48:31,360
Yeah, this is very funny.
Yeah, that is a very good bit.

924
00:48:31,840 –> 00:48:33,880
Yeah, that’s just it.
I mean, not to be a sort of

925
00:48:34,120 –> 00:48:37,760
Debbie Downer, but I I feel like
if any of this shit is real,

926
00:48:37,760 –> 00:48:43,040
like in the Rand scheme of the
universe, the beings, entities,

927
00:48:43,040 –> 00:48:46,040
technology is probably so far
beyond anything we can

928
00:48:46,040 –> 00:48:49,600
comprehend for them to travel
those distances that maybe they

929
00:48:49,600 –> 00:48:51,840
are here and we don’t even see
it because we just don’t.

930
00:48:52,040 –> 00:48:53,800
There’s no way for us to
comprehend or get it.

931
00:48:54,080 –> 00:48:56,760
And that’s not to say that we
can’t see what’s in front of us.

932
00:48:56,760 –> 00:48:58,800
Of course we can see what’s in
front of us, but there are

933
00:48:58,800 –> 00:49:02,080
things we can’t see that are all
around us that you know, that

934
00:49:02,440 –> 00:49:05,600
you know keep our lives moving
whether it be radio waves or you

935
00:49:05,600 –> 00:49:07,240
know, sound waves etcetera,
etcetera.

936
00:49:07,400 –> 00:49:09,600
But.
I I do.

937
00:49:09,640 –> 00:49:13,080
I do not believe in the what
Fermi said where it’s like oh if

938
00:49:13,080 –> 00:49:16,080
there is anything out there it’s
it’s too far and too few to

939
00:49:16,480 –> 00:49:19,080
we’ll that we’ll ever know.
Don’t know that, man.

940
00:49:19,120 –> 00:49:22,120
There’s trillions of planets out
there, trillions of star

941
00:49:22,120 –> 00:49:23,800
systems.
Like who knows what the fuck’s

942
00:49:23,840 –> 00:49:24,680
out there?
Yeah.

943
00:49:24,680 –> 00:49:27,440
And if they came here, they
would obviously be using

944
00:49:27,440 –> 00:49:31,440
technology we don’t have in
that, like, at all.

945
00:49:31,800 –> 00:49:34,240
Yeah.
And, like, there’s so much about

946
00:49:34,240 –> 00:49:36,240
space.
We don’t know.

947
00:49:36,640 –> 00:49:40,640
Like, one of the suggestions
about when aliens have actually

948
00:49:40,640 –> 00:49:44,120
visited is, man, they could have
just taken a fucking wrong turn

949
00:49:44,600 –> 00:49:47,560
like they might.
Because the thing I always bring

950
00:49:47,560 –> 00:49:52,080
up about Roswell is we act like
there was this like, lust for

951
00:49:52,080 –> 00:49:54,720
that technology they had.
And it’s like, you mean

952
00:49:54,720 –> 00:49:59,880
technology that can’t stay in
the skies over Earth, because we

953
00:49:59,880 –> 00:50:02,760
already had technology that
could do that by then.

954
00:50:03,440 –> 00:50:06,200
But there’s like hundreds of
UFOs crashing.

955
00:50:06,560 –> 00:50:10,000
Like there weren’t hundreds of
plane crashes at the time.

956
00:50:10,320 –> 00:50:14,640
Like that suggests it wasn’t
that advanced, which makes me

957
00:50:14,640 –> 00:50:17,760
not believe the story.
Yeah, yeah.

958
00:50:17,760 –> 00:50:22,280
And I my my theory on that is
they were testing out some Nazi

959
00:50:22,280 –> 00:50:24,800
technology they brought over
from Germany or wherever.

960
00:50:25,200 –> 00:50:27,480
And they’re just trying to
figure out some sort of, you

961
00:50:27,480 –> 00:50:29,680
know, back door into whatever
they were doing.

962
00:50:29,880 –> 00:50:32,960
Maybe it was drones that they
were working on, you know, over

963
00:50:32,960 –> 00:50:35,400
there and they were trying to,
you know, they were starting to

964
00:50:35,400 –> 00:50:37,480
mimic that.
And Oh no, somebody saw it.

965
00:50:37,480 –> 00:50:39,120
Now they have to cover it up.
It’s a weather balloon.

966
00:50:40,160 –> 00:50:43,040
They’re so going back to our
original point, there’s so much

967
00:50:43,040 –> 00:50:46,360
technology right now that we
have no idea exists.

968
00:50:46,760 –> 00:50:50,360
And so the idea of a Tic Tac
being able to maneuver like that

969
00:50:50,360 –> 00:50:54,680
in a grainy video from 2007,
maybe it is a 100% real video of

970
00:50:54,680 –> 00:50:58,080
technology where we leaked that
out through the New York Times

971
00:50:58,080 –> 00:51:03,000
and through official government
officials as almost like, hey,

972
00:51:03,160 –> 00:51:05,120
we’re going to put China and
Russia and Iran, all these

973
00:51:05,120 –> 00:51:07,520
countries kind of unnoticed, Be
like, hey, we got this shit

974
00:51:07,520 –> 00:51:10,280
coming, so you better watch out
because we’re going to leapfrog

975
00:51:10,280 –> 00:51:12,200
in front of you and we’ll we’ll
destroy you with it.

976
00:51:12,520 –> 00:51:16,040
Maybe it’s just simply that.
Or there’s like, oh, maybe we’ll

977
00:51:16,040 –> 00:51:18,640
just shit their pants a little
bit with what we got going on

978
00:51:18,640 –> 00:51:20,720
over here.
Just in the same way that all

979
00:51:20,720 –> 00:51:23,680
the stealth bomber stuff leaked
out in the in the 70s and 80s

980
00:51:23,680 –> 00:51:25,800
where it’s like we got something
coming bitches, so you better

981
00:51:25,800 –> 00:51:28,600
watch out, which is shit.
We do too.

982
00:51:29,000 –> 00:51:31,600
We are, we are the bullies on
the corner of the block.

983
00:51:31,760 –> 00:51:33,800
I keep forgetting the name of
it.

984
00:51:33,800 –> 00:51:38,080
Let me see if I can put my world
class Googling skills to use

985
00:51:38,080 –> 00:51:40,720
here.
But there is AI started typing

986
00:51:40,720 –> 00:51:45,320
the word there, as I said there.
But there’s a government,

987
00:51:45,440 –> 00:51:50,840
there’s like this military jet
that is rumoured to exist and

988
00:51:50,840 –> 00:51:52,480
there’s so much information
about it.

989
00:51:52,480 –> 00:51:54,760
It’s like, well, like it
obviously exists.

990
00:51:54,760 –> 00:51:57,160
They’re just not.
What is it?

991
00:51:57,840 –> 00:51:59,520
It’s a TIE fighter.
I don’t know.

992
00:52:01,000 –> 00:52:08,000
I believe it is the SR72A
hypersonic unmanned aerial

993
00:52:08,000 –> 00:52:12,320
vehicle concept intended for
intelligence, surveillance and

994
00:52:12,320 –> 00:52:17,200
reconnaissance, proposed
privately in 2013 by Lockheed

995
00:52:17,240 –> 00:52:19,080
Martin.
Did we just unlock this?

996
00:52:19,080 –> 00:52:22,400
Is that what the fucking scene?
That’s all it is right there.

997
00:52:22,560 –> 00:52:26,920
It’s a new drone technology.
But it also says the Sr. 72 does

998
00:52:26,920 –> 00:52:29,680
not exist.
Well, it exists in our hard

999
00:52:29,680 –> 00:52:33,640
saddle.
No, I mean, who knows?

1000
00:52:33,720 –> 00:52:36,480
Like, it’s just sort of thing
like, like the the head of GE

1001
00:52:36,480 –> 00:52:40,520
said, like we’re 50 years ahead,
whatever the consumer thinks we

1002
00:52:40,520 –> 00:52:42,640
are.
Yeah, so there are people doing

1003
00:52:42,640 –> 00:52:46,440
shit on on just regular
computers and phones in that

1004
00:52:46,440 –> 00:52:48,960
industry that we can’t even
fucking comprehend right now.

1005
00:52:49,160 –> 00:52:51,240
In 50 years it’ll be regular old
stuff.

1006
00:52:51,400 –> 00:52:54,520
But you know, think about that
with, like, e-mail and cellular

1007
00:52:54,520 –> 00:52:56,200
technology.
Like people were using that shit

1008
00:52:56,200 –> 00:52:58,040
in the fucking 50s.
Right.

1009
00:52:58,440 –> 00:53:02,240
You know, like if you went to
the average, even American in,

1010
00:53:02,240 –> 00:53:04,960
like 1955 and say, you know
what, you’re going to send a

1011
00:53:04,960 –> 00:53:07,680
letter on a device that fits in
your hand, they’ll be like

1012
00:53:08,040 –> 00:53:09,560
you’ve been watching The
Twilight Zone.

1013
00:53:09,760 –> 00:53:13,280
Yeah.
And so I mean not to say who

1014
00:53:13,280 –> 00:53:16,440
knows what’s out there, but like
you have to accept the fact that

1015
00:53:16,920 –> 00:53:20,680
technology is being developed
that we are not Privy to that is

1016
00:53:20,920 –> 00:53:22,800
so mind blowing.
It will seem like magic when it

1017
00:53:22,800 –> 00:53:25,840
comes out, and then after it
comes out and destroys or

1018
00:53:25,840 –> 00:53:28,120
advances or does whatever it
does will just be everyday

1019
00:53:28,120 –> 00:53:31,800
common stuff.
Yeah, and there’s a big

1020
00:53:32,560 –> 00:53:36,880
conspiracy theory out there that
we not only have all this

1021
00:53:36,880 –> 00:53:41,680
technology, but some of it could
like kind of fix global warming.

1022
00:53:41,960 –> 00:53:44,920
And we’ve maybe had that for a
long, long time.

1023
00:53:45,080 –> 00:53:49,680
But because we are hell bent on
raiding this planet, of all the

1024
00:53:49,680 –> 00:53:53,600
fossil fuels it has while we
can, we’ve been like, you know,

1025
00:53:53,600 –> 00:53:56,960
holding that back a little bit,
which that’s going to put blood

1026
00:53:56,960 –> 00:53:59,240
on people’s hands if that story
comes out.

1027
00:53:59,400 –> 00:54:02,000
Yeah, but they will get away
with it because they always do.

1028
00:54:02,440 –> 00:54:06,040
I mean, I’ll very quick story.
I was helping my grandfather

1029
00:54:06,040 –> 00:54:10,200
install solar panels on his roof
up in British Columbia in like

1030
00:54:10,200 –> 00:54:14,120
94, maybe 95.
And they were the big, big ass,

1031
00:54:14,120 –> 00:54:15,720
you know, proper roof size solar
panels.

1032
00:54:15,720 –> 00:54:18,360
And you know they had to be
delivered in the box and was

1033
00:54:18,360 –> 00:54:20,600
looking at the box for
instructions or whatever.

1034
00:54:21,040 –> 00:54:25,560
Right in the corner of that box
there was a Royal Shell logo.

1035
00:54:26,120 –> 00:54:30,760
So in the mid 90s, Royal Shell
was already selling solar panels

1036
00:54:30,760 –> 00:54:33,160
to consumers.
That worked perfectly well.

1037
00:54:33,360 –> 00:54:35,040
That would power an entire
house.

1038
00:54:35,280 –> 00:54:39,200
And so, you know, these big
massive energy companies, not

1039
00:54:39,200 –> 00:54:42,320
oil companies, energy companies
were already doing, you know,

1040
00:54:42,520 –> 00:54:44,920
what was that back then?
Super advanced technology.

1041
00:54:44,920 –> 00:54:46,440
But what now?
We consider, you know, pretty

1042
00:54:46,440 –> 00:54:49,440
advanced screen technology 30
fucking years ago, man.

1043
00:54:49,920 –> 00:54:53,400
Yeah.
And they weren’t hiding it per

1044
00:54:53,400 –> 00:54:56,120
SE, because they put their
fucking logo on the solar panel

1045
00:54:56,120 –> 00:54:58,880
box.
But it was not.

1046
00:54:59,080 –> 00:55:01,560
I don’t.
It was like it blew my, blew my

1047
00:55:01,560 –> 00:55:04,120
at my grandfather’s mind that it
was like made by Shell, really

1048
00:55:04,120 –> 00:55:05,800
Royal Shell.
Yeah, that’s crazy.

1049
00:55:06,120 –> 00:55:10,120
And so, yeah, who knows what
they’re doing right now or what

1050
00:55:10,120 –> 00:55:11,240
what type.
Like to your point, what

1051
00:55:11,240 –> 00:55:13,680
technology they have that would
be like, yeah, we can fix this

1052
00:55:13,680 –> 00:55:14,720
in a snap.
But you know what?

1053
00:55:14,880 –> 00:55:17,760
I got a trillion dollars to make
in the next 10 years off of

1054
00:55:17,760 –> 00:55:20,360
crude and we’re an energy
company and I’m going to make

1055
00:55:20,360 –> 00:55:23,520
that trillion dollars.
And see that could be the like.

1056
00:55:23,880 –> 00:55:25,800
I don’t know the good version of
this.

1057
00:55:26,240 –> 00:55:31,080
Like, what if the whole end game
is to escape the culpability

1058
00:55:31,080 –> 00:55:34,600
that would come with everyone
knowing, oh, the government has

1059
00:55:34,600 –> 00:55:38,000
had the technology that could
have pulled us out of this a

1060
00:55:38,000 –> 00:55:41,640
long, long time ago.
What if the entire end game of

1061
00:55:41,640 –> 00:55:46,680
staging an alien visit is so
they will bring us this

1062
00:55:46,680 –> 00:55:50,960
technology and hand it to Joe
Biden on the White House lawn

1063
00:55:50,960 –> 00:55:53,080
and we’re like, yeah, yeah,
aliens.

1064
00:55:53,080 –> 00:55:57,920
And meanwhile it’s just like a
dude in an alien suit inside a

1065
00:55:57,920 –> 00:56:01,520
government vehicle that we built
using the technology we’ve had

1066
00:56:01,520 –> 00:56:02,080
forever.
Or.

1067
00:56:02,480 –> 00:56:06,800
Or it’s a guy in a an Exxon
Mobil truck.

1068
00:56:07,440 –> 00:56:10,240
But they like they they just put
one of those, like, magnet logos

1069
00:56:10,240 –> 00:56:13,800
over it that made it look like a
fucking alien ship and like it

1070
00:56:13,840 –> 00:56:15,240
falls off when they try to drag
away.

1071
00:56:15,240 –> 00:56:17,560
And it’s Exxon.
But it still comes down from

1072
00:56:17,560 –> 00:56:20,520
space like Jeeps.
Yes, that’s neat.

1073
00:56:21,120 –> 00:56:24,120
I mean to and to me like that is
kind of more likely what will

1074
00:56:24,120 –> 00:56:26,480
happen than anything else.
Then, then, Then

1075
00:56:26,480 –> 00:56:29,200
extraterrestrials coming from
100 billion miles away.

1076
00:56:29,520 –> 00:56:32,680
Yeah, yeah, I could.
I could absolutely see the

1077
00:56:32,680 –> 00:56:35,000
government faking something like
that.

1078
00:56:35,000 –> 00:56:39,040
But like, even before people
started connecting it to UFOs,

1079
00:56:39,040 –> 00:56:42,880
that was kind of always in the
back of my mind was like, I bet

1080
00:56:42,880 –> 00:56:47,560
they have something that could
probably make an impact on

1081
00:56:47,560 –> 00:56:51,440
global warming and they’re just
waiting until they can sell all

1082
00:56:51,560 –> 00:56:52,440
the oil.
Yeah.

1083
00:56:52,440 –> 00:56:56,440
And then it’s the right time for
the profit margin to equalize

1084
00:56:56,440 –> 00:57:00,120
and go up uninhibited and cause
at the end of the day, that’s

1085
00:57:00,120 –> 00:57:02,520
what those fucking people care
about, they care about.

1086
00:57:02,520 –> 00:57:06,080
How can I make the most amount
of money with this, whether it’s

1087
00:57:06,080 –> 00:57:10,160
technology, device, product,
mineral, you know, it’s the De

1088
00:57:10,200 –> 00:57:12,840
Beers business model.
Hey, you know what?

1089
00:57:12,840 –> 00:57:14,080
There’s a ton of diamonds in the
world.

1090
00:57:14,360 –> 00:57:16,400
Let’s put them all in the vault
and pretend that they’re rare.

1091
00:57:16,760 –> 00:57:18,200
Yeah, Yeah.
And so.

1092
00:57:18,400 –> 00:57:22,040
Yeah, I don’t know.
I feel like my my biggest take

1093
00:57:22,040 –> 00:57:25,480
away from all this is, you know,
to people listening, you got to

1094
00:57:25,480 –> 00:57:29,600
stop being gas lit by the US
government official employees

1095
00:57:29,840 –> 00:57:33,480
saying, hey, I’ve seen stuff but
you can’t see it, and then

1096
00:57:33,480 –> 00:57:35,960
saying the government admitted
that aliens exist.

1097
00:57:35,960 –> 00:57:37,480
Like that’s not what happened to
me.

1098
00:57:37,960 –> 00:57:39,920
Yeah, yeah.
If it was the government

1099
00:57:39,960 –> 00:57:43,080
admitting it, the people asking
the questions would be the one

1100
00:57:43,480 –> 00:57:46,800
giving you the information.
When fucking Mitch McConnell

1101
00:57:46,920 –> 00:57:51,880
comes walking out arm in arm
with an alien, then maybe you

1102
00:57:52,000 –> 00:57:54,280
you can believe it, that’s
that’s kind of like the

1103
00:57:54,280 –> 00:57:57,640
government saying it happened,
But yeah, just some fucking

1104
00:57:57,960 –> 00:58:01,760
whistleblower.
And like, one thing we know

1105
00:58:01,760 –> 00:58:07,000
about the CIA in particular is
it’s very compartmentalized.

1106
00:58:07,360 –> 00:58:11,520
And one person working on one
thing has no idea what the other

1107
00:58:11,520 –> 00:58:15,640
person’s working on.
So that’s not the government

1108
00:58:15,640 –> 00:58:17,600
admitting stuff.
That’s someone telling the

1109
00:58:17,600 –> 00:58:20,640
government stuff.
But also they work for the

1110
00:58:20,640 –> 00:58:22,960
government.
It’s, yeah, it’s not what you

1111
00:58:22,960 –> 00:58:24,520
think it is.
Yeah.

1112
00:58:24,520 –> 00:58:27,800
And I just don’t understand
people who implicitly trust the

1113
00:58:27,800 –> 00:58:31,040
government, whatever they say.
I just don’t get that.

1114
00:58:31,120 –> 00:58:34,400
And I, I I mean, I get it.
But I just like how after all

1115
00:58:34,400 –> 00:58:37,200
this, I mean, remember those
meetings with Colin Powell at

1116
00:58:37,200 –> 00:58:41,280
the UN where he was literally
showing what we now know is fake

1117
00:58:41,280 –> 00:58:44,920
powder to the UN Council being
like this is what they’re doing,

1118
00:58:44,920 –> 00:58:47,360
Saddam Hussein is developing
weapons of mass destruction,

1119
00:58:47,360 –> 00:58:51,480
blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
And it was all a blatant lie and

1120
00:58:51,480 –> 00:58:54,440
was a I mean to me it was an
obvious, blatant lie at the time

1121
00:58:54,440 –> 00:58:58,760
because obviously it’s like, oh,
and then it was proven to be a

1122
00:58:58,760 –> 00:59:00,640
blatant lie and then it was
confirmed to be a blatant lie.

1123
00:59:00,840 –> 00:59:03,440
And Sophia were like, but why
would the government lie to me?

1124
00:59:04,080 –> 00:59:06,640
What could they have to gain?
It’s like Mark Simpson being

1125
00:59:06,640 –> 00:59:08,560
like why would the Sugar board
lie to me?

1126
00:59:10,160 –> 00:59:14,000
Yeah, and I mean the government,
they lie to you all the time

1127
00:59:14,160 –> 00:59:16,480
like.
And so does corporate America.

1128
00:59:16,680 –> 00:59:18,840
Pfizer lies to you about
opioids.

1129
00:59:18,840 –> 00:59:22,800
You know, like Shell lies to you
about energy.

1130
00:59:22,960 –> 00:59:26,800
They’ve been selling fucking
solar panels for 30 years and

1131
00:59:26,800 –> 00:59:29,560
selling you gasoline.
They lie.

1132
00:59:29,640 –> 00:59:32,880
They want money.
Yeah, Watergate was a conspiracy

1133
00:59:32,880 –> 00:59:34,040
theory.
Until it wasn’t.

1134
00:59:34,440 –> 00:59:36,520
Right.
MK Ultra was a conspiracy

1135
00:59:36,520 –> 00:59:37,360
theory.
Till it wasn’t.

1136
00:59:37,680 –> 00:59:42,600
Yeah, I mean, it’s gotten to the
point where healthy skepticism

1137
00:59:42,600 –> 00:59:45,640
is a good thing, and people seem
to have forgotten that.

1138
00:59:45,920 –> 00:59:48,000
Yeah.
And like a thing you mentioned

1139
00:59:48,040 –> 00:59:51,200
earlier, like, don’t ever lean
on the idea that, oh, if the

1140
00:59:51,200 –> 00:59:52,480
government had it, we would
know.

1141
00:59:52,840 –> 00:59:58,320
Like, I can’t tell people enough
that in the 60s and 70s, the

1142
00:59:58,320 –> 01:00:01,600
government, the CIA,
specifically developed an

1143
01:00:01,600 –> 01:00:05,040
assassination tool called the
shellfish toxin gun.

1144
01:00:05,600 –> 01:00:07,160
Yeah, which very real thing,
yeah.

1145
01:00:07,600 –> 01:00:12,800
And people are like, OK, I mean,
they fucking showed it at the

1146
01:00:12,800 –> 01:00:16,200
Church Committee hearings like
they were like, oh, you don’t

1147
01:00:16,200 –> 01:00:17,960
believe us?
And the guy fucking whips it out

1148
01:00:17,960 –> 01:00:20,120
of his jacket or some shit.
It’s like.

1149
01:00:20,120 –> 01:00:23,320
It isn’t evidence, there are
pictures, there’s a full report.

1150
01:00:23,720 –> 01:00:27,040
And it also it makes sense
because shellfish toxins are

1151
01:00:27,040 –> 01:00:28,720
deadly.
And you know what?

1152
01:00:29,000 –> 01:00:32,160
It sounds like a nice way to die
like you, just like you.

1153
01:00:32,720 –> 01:00:35,200
It’s like a pretty painless that
like, they should.

1154
01:00:35,440 –> 01:00:38,200
That’s what they need to do.
They’re like, just need to come

1155
01:00:38,200 –> 01:00:41,720
forward and be like, look, you
know, we assassinate people.

1156
01:00:41,840 –> 01:00:44,280
Let us show you a more ethical
way to do it.

1157
01:00:44,480 –> 01:00:47,120
Maybe you’ll be on board.
And then they just ice a guy

1158
01:00:47,120 –> 01:00:50,240
with the fucking shellfish gun
on live TV.

1159
01:00:50,440 –> 01:00:53,280
He just passes out and it’s
like, oh, peaceful death.

1160
01:00:53,600 –> 01:00:57,640
It’s always funny to me and I I
do not mean this in a supportive

1161
01:00:57,640 –> 01:01:01,000
way at all.
I just found it amusing when

1162
01:01:01,240 –> 01:01:04,280
Trump, after he got in office,
he was doing an interview with

1163
01:01:04,280 –> 01:01:06,640
somebody.
But Putin kills people.

1164
01:01:06,640 –> 01:01:08,040
He’s like, yeah, and we kill
people too.

1165
01:01:08,040 –> 01:01:10,440
So.
Or paraphrasing.

1166
01:01:10,600 –> 01:01:12,640
But it was just like, and people
were so open arms, like, oh,

1167
01:01:12,640 –> 01:01:14,840
America doesn’t do that.
And it’s like, what fucking

1168
01:01:14,840 –> 01:01:17,560
world are you living in?
Yeah, like I said, I’m not

1169
01:01:17,560 –> 01:01:21,400
supporting him in any way.
But at least he wasn’t like, oh,

1170
01:01:21,400 –> 01:01:22,920
of course America is about blah
blah blah.

1171
01:01:22,920 –> 01:01:24,240
It’s like we kill people too.
What?

1172
01:01:24,560 –> 01:01:26,880
Yeah, yeah, propaganda is a
thing.

1173
01:01:27,120 –> 01:01:29,760
And like, even the the Putin
Kills People thing.

1174
01:01:29,760 –> 01:01:33,000
Yeah, yeah, he probably does.
But you know who else kills

1175
01:01:33,000 –> 01:01:34,680
people in Russia?
Oligarchs.

1176
01:01:34,880 –> 01:01:38,760
People write inflammatory
articles about them a lot in

1177
01:01:38,760 –> 01:01:40,680
Russia too, and get fucking
killed for it.

1178
01:01:40,880 –> 01:01:42,080
Yes, they do.
Yeah.

1179
01:01:42,080 –> 01:01:45,360
And so it’s sort of a anyway,
it’s the sort of thing where

1180
01:01:45,360 –> 01:01:49,160
it’s like not to be too fair me
about it, where it’s like, oh,

1181
01:01:49,160 –> 01:01:51,200
the distances are too far, What
would they even bother doing

1182
01:01:51,200 –> 01:01:53,760
here?
But also, I kind of agree with

1183
01:01:53,760 –> 01:01:57,040
you, Would it even matter if it
was them or us at the end of the

1184
01:01:57,040 –> 01:02:00,840
day and they showed up, showed
up, as in, you know, it, it kind

1185
01:02:00,840 –> 01:02:03,000
of wouldn’t because like you
said, the people will believe it

1186
01:02:03,000 –> 01:02:05,080
or they won’t.
And at the end of the day, a lot

1187
01:02:05,080 –> 01:02:07,640
of people are probably going to
die for somebody else to make

1188
01:02:07,640 –> 01:02:10,280
money.
And then here we are again.

1189
01:02:10,440 –> 01:02:12,720
I need a shot of whiskey.
Yeah.

1190
01:02:14,120 –> 01:02:16,160
Yeah, it is.
I mean, it’s really alarming

1191
01:02:16,160 –> 01:02:19,440
because it’s also the kind of
thing most people are just gonna

1192
01:02:19,440 –> 01:02:23,720
laugh off until the absolute
second it happens.

1193
01:02:23,960 –> 01:02:27,840
And those are the people that
will believe it the hardest.

1194
01:02:27,840 –> 01:02:33,680
Also, because finally, this is
the like, literally aliens

1195
01:02:33,680 –> 01:02:37,160
landing on the White House lawn.
Like, finally, that’s the proof

1196
01:02:37,160 –> 01:02:39,480
I’ve been looking for.
And it’s like, that could be

1197
01:02:39,480 –> 01:02:40,960
fake too.
You never know.

1198
01:02:41,200 –> 01:02:45,120
And also again, the hubris that
they’ve come now and to us.

1199
01:02:45,360 –> 01:02:49,240
Yeah.
Like, just just take a give me a

1200
01:02:49,240 –> 01:02:50,680
second here.
Like, imagine you’re looking

1201
01:02:50,680 –> 01:02:54,320
down at Earth and where the
biggest concentration of humans

1202
01:02:54,320 –> 01:02:56,800
are.
Who are sort of in basic control

1203
01:02:56,800 –> 01:02:59,400
of this planet, which is hubris
in itself because there’s so

1204
01:02:59,400 –> 01:03:01,600
many species that make this
planet go round.

1205
01:03:02,040 –> 01:03:04,520
But once you sort of look at
Southeast Asia and be like, Oh

1206
01:03:04,520 –> 01:03:08,800
well, that’s what most of the
people are by far like over half

1207
01:03:08,800 –> 01:03:11,480
the entire population is
concentrated just on this little

1208
01:03:11,480 –> 01:03:14,080
corner of the continent.
We’re going to land there and

1209
01:03:14,640 –> 01:03:17,840
talk to them as opposed to this
continent that’s basically

1210
01:03:17,840 –> 01:03:19,200
empty.
I know it seems like there’s a

1211
01:03:19,200 –> 01:03:21,240
lot of people in North America,
but there’s really not.

1212
01:03:21,920 –> 01:03:24,520
I mean it’s it’s really kind of
empty in this country.

1213
01:03:25,760 –> 01:03:27,760
And you why would they land
here?

1214
01:03:28,200 –> 01:03:30,960
I mean here why would they land,
you know, in the United States?

1215
01:03:31,040 –> 01:03:33,560
But because we’re great, they
don’t know that looking down.

1216
01:03:33,720 –> 01:03:37,720
Yeah, and if they have been
monitoring us, they probably

1217
01:03:37,720 –> 01:03:39,960
know this is the last place you
want to land.

1218
01:03:39,960 –> 01:03:40,960
Oh.
Yeah, why?

1219
01:03:40,960 –> 01:03:43,680
Why kick the horde’s nest?
Yeah, the place with all the

1220
01:03:43,680 –> 01:03:46,320
guns.
Yeah, like, granted bullets

1221
01:03:46,320 –> 01:03:50,000
can’t kill us, but it still
hurts to get shot, so.

1222
01:03:50,960 –> 01:03:52,800
It’s more just like, well, this
planet exists.

1223
01:03:52,800 –> 01:03:55,040
Let’s carry on.
It’s like when you it’s like,

1224
01:03:55,040 –> 01:03:58,040
you know, when you used to go
out like in your 20s and you’d

1225
01:03:58,040 –> 01:04:00,520
be like walking around town
looking at bars and there’d

1226
01:04:00,520 –> 01:04:03,320
always be that one bar where
you’d walk by and you’re like,

1227
01:04:03,320 –> 01:04:07,640
I’m not going to go in there.
I’ll probably get knifed and you

1228
01:04:07,640 –> 01:04:08,960
just walk on and go to another
bar.

1229
01:04:09,120 –> 01:04:12,040
I feel like Earth is that bar
where you’re just like, might be

1230
01:04:12,040 –> 01:04:13,440
fun, but I also might get
knifed.

1231
01:04:13,440 –> 01:04:16,160
So I’m just going to, you know,
carry on to the next one.

1232
01:04:16,360 –> 01:04:18,160
Yeah, Yeah.
I don’t know.

1233
01:04:18,480 –> 01:04:20,480
I don’t.
I I think you’re right.

1234
01:04:20,480 –> 01:04:23,280
I don’t think.
I mean, I I definitely don’t

1235
01:04:23,280 –> 01:04:27,440
think that the government is
being on the up and up about

1236
01:04:27,440 –> 01:04:30,800
this ’cause I also don’t like
the whole, we don’t know, like

1237
01:04:30,800 –> 01:04:33,880
we’re we’re as blind to
whatever’s happening as you are.

1238
01:04:33,880 –> 01:04:37,360
It’s like bullshit.
Like there’s like they’re

1239
01:04:37,360 –> 01:04:40,400
putting these videos out like
they’re fucking have you seen

1240
01:04:40,400 –> 01:04:43,680
this man posters?
Like, please, just tell us

1241
01:04:43,720 –> 01:04:47,880
anything about.
It’s like, come on, 16

1242
01:04:47,880 –> 01:04:51,000
intelligence agencies and none
of you know anything about this.

1243
01:04:51,240 –> 01:04:54,240
Yeah, yeah, right. 1,000,000
pilots in the sky every day just

1244
01:04:54,240 –> 01:04:56,240
in the United States and nobody
saw anything.

1245
01:04:56,520 –> 01:04:59,360
And there’s we did a couple
episodes about them.

1246
01:04:59,360 –> 01:05:03,000
There were those CIA files that
they had to release because of

1247
01:05:03,000 –> 01:05:05,800
one of Trump’s COVID bills.
Which is still such a weird

1248
01:05:05,800 –> 01:05:11,520
detail to me, but it like very
early on this was the concern

1249
01:05:11,520 –> 01:05:14,040
with a lot of people was no, no,
no, no, no.

1250
01:05:14,040 –> 01:05:17,000
This isn’t UFOs.
This isn’t aliens.

1251
01:05:17,000 –> 01:05:21,080
This is the fucking CIA figuring
out how they can use weird

1252
01:05:21,080 –> 01:05:24,800
technology to to influence a
whole bunch of people at once.

1253
01:05:25,040 –> 01:05:28,280
And correct me if I’m wrong, but
also in those files, wasn’t

1254
01:05:28,600 –> 01:05:32,440
there a narrative that does that
CIA and intelligence community

1255
01:05:32,440 –> 01:05:37,800
realized that they could use
those UFO narratives at the time

1256
01:05:37,960 –> 01:05:40,640
to distract people from
technology Like they they

1257
01:05:41,000 –> 01:05:45,120
instituted that as actual
actionable espionage and

1258
01:05:45,240 –> 01:05:47,720
activity to be like, Oh well,
we’ll just get people to think

1259
01:05:47,720 –> 01:05:50,360
it’s UFO so that you know that
they won’t look at what we’re

1260
01:05:50,360 –> 01:05:52,560
doing.
And it’s like that was the plan.

1261
01:05:53,040 –> 01:05:57,560
Yeah, it seemed to be that the
the first thought was, what are

1262
01:05:57,560 –> 01:06:00,160
these things?
Is this other governments

1263
01:06:00,320 –> 01:06:02,680
fucking with us?
And then the very next thought

1264
01:06:02,680 –> 01:06:05,880
was, can we use this to fuck
with other governments?

1265
01:06:06,520 –> 01:06:08,520
Right, right.
And back then especially, Can

1266
01:06:08,520 –> 01:06:10,440
you imagine this?
Like, oh, let’s, let’s really

1267
01:06:10,440 –> 01:06:12,400
get Stalin up in a little
uproar?

1268
01:06:12,600 –> 01:06:17,080
Yeah, I mean, at the end of the
day, it’s so all this shit is so

1269
01:06:17,080 –> 01:06:20,280
fucking petty.
Like, way pettier than I think

1270
01:06:20,280 –> 01:06:22,480
any of us want to admit.
Because there’s just like, oh,

1271
01:06:22,480 –> 01:06:25,760
the the prestige of office and
the the beauty of, you know,

1272
01:06:25,760 –> 01:06:29,440
these this higher, you know,
fetish sizing of power and

1273
01:06:29,440 –> 01:06:32,120
wealth that some people have
where it’s just like, oh,

1274
01:06:32,120 –> 01:06:34,080
they’re successful and rich.
They must be amazing or it’s

1275
01:06:34,080 –> 01:06:36,800
like or they’re just petty
pieces of shit who are holding

1276
01:06:36,800 –> 01:06:39,800
on to their power and wealth by
any means necessary.

1277
01:06:40,240 –> 01:06:44,920
And and that means you’re just a
line item on a budget to them

1278
01:06:44,920 –> 01:06:47,600
when it comes to how much money
they can make or not based on

1279
01:06:47,600 –> 01:06:48,520
your life.
Yeah.

1280
01:06:48,800 –> 01:06:51,040
You ever been to Roswell?
I have not.

1281
01:06:51,040 –> 01:06:52,960
I’ve been in New Mexico, but
I’ve never been to Roswell.

1282
01:06:53,120 –> 01:06:54,680
Here’s the thing.
Disappointing.

1283
01:06:54,680 –> 01:06:56,000
It’s great.
Disappointing.

1284
01:06:56,000 –> 01:06:58,120
For one thing, the museum closes
at, like 5.

1285
01:06:58,120 –> 01:06:59,720
Oh shit.
OK.

1286
01:07:00,000 –> 01:07:03,800
And it’s very, very small
because it’s based on the one

1287
01:07:03,800 –> 01:07:07,960
incident that happened way back
when and the only bar in town,

1288
01:07:08,280 –> 01:07:11,680
Buffalo Wild Wings.
That’s a big so it’s a watch.

1289
01:07:11,920 –> 01:07:14,000
Yeah, I mean, you could do worse
for sure, but.

1290
01:07:14,880 –> 01:07:19,280
Shut down some wings.
Yeah, yeah, I I think I felt

1291
01:07:19,360 –> 01:07:23,160
felt safer in a Buffalo Wild
Wings in Roswell than I would

1292
01:07:23,160 –> 01:07:26,720
have at like a dive bar with
really good wings with a bunch

1293
01:07:26,720 –> 01:07:29,520
of angry locals that hate
tourists.

1294
01:07:30,000 –> 01:07:33,680
Granted, there was still a fight
at the Buffalo Wild Wings, but

1295
01:07:33,680 –> 01:07:34,640
of.
Course there was.

1296
01:07:34,800 –> 01:07:40,560
It was just the classic Eagles
Cowboys conflict flaring up.

1297
01:07:40,840 –> 01:07:44,960
Yeah, I’ve only I’ve been to
like some meteor sites, you

1298
01:07:44,960 –> 01:07:49,040
know, so like Oh yeah, the one
in Arizona, Pennsville, Arizona

1299
01:07:50,200 –> 01:07:52,840
and things like that.
But never like never

1300
01:07:52,840 –> 01:07:54,760
extraterrestrial UFO related
sites.

1301
01:07:54,760 –> 01:08:00,360
Just like more, more geological
things, which I always find

1302
01:08:00,360 –> 01:08:02,720
fascinating because it’s like,
yeah, that’s a big asshole that

1303
01:08:02,720 –> 01:08:04,720
must have fucked this planet up,
you know?

1304
01:08:05,200 –> 01:08:08,160
And then you think about, yeah,
maybe, maybe imagine that

1305
01:08:08,160 –> 01:08:10,200
happening again.
Just like, OK, well, turn the

1306
01:08:10,200 –> 01:08:14,360
lights off by everybody.
Have you heard anything about

1307
01:08:14,920 –> 01:08:18,840
this notion that if this
technology exists and the

1308
01:08:18,840 –> 01:08:22,240
government’s been holding on to
it, what we need to do is put an

1309
01:08:22,240 –> 01:08:27,200
amnesty program in place so all
the people who’ve been lying

1310
01:08:27,200 –> 01:08:31,000
about it and killing people
through global warming can

1311
01:08:31,000 –> 01:08:35,880
finally come out and admit that
this technology is real and we

1312
01:08:35,880 –> 01:08:39,920
all live happily ever after?
Because I say we eat those

1313
01:08:39,920 –> 01:08:42,359
people once.
Yeah, we find out about them.

1314
01:08:42,479 –> 01:08:44,600
That’s.
What the guillotine is for Yeah,

1315
01:08:45,279 –> 01:08:48,880
literally admit it for those
people like I this Do you ever

1316
01:08:48,880 –> 01:08:50,399
watch Letterkenny?
No.

1317
01:08:50,600 –> 01:08:53,479
There’s a there’s a great
episode of season 5 called Hard

1318
01:08:53,479 –> 01:08:58,000
Right Jay and Jay Berschel plays
this just maga douche bag who

1319
01:08:58,000 –> 01:09:02,800
like comes to town because the
local middle school soccer name

1320
01:09:02,800 –> 01:09:04,680
is getting changed from the
Chiefs to something else.

1321
01:09:04,680 –> 01:09:06,960
That’s always like making a big
deal about it with his, you

1322
01:09:07,000 –> 01:09:11,560
know, cheeky torch friends.
And a a contingent of the shows

1323
01:09:11,600 –> 01:09:14,000
like main characters are the
Indians from the rez.

1324
01:09:14,359 –> 01:09:17,160
And so when they go out to the
soccer field to protest, they’re

1325
01:09:17,160 –> 01:09:19,800
like, hey, we’re here to protest
this, what about tradition and

1326
01:09:19,800 –> 01:09:22,359
blah, blah, blah.
And there’s back and forth and

1327
01:09:22,800 –> 01:09:24,960
back and forth with, you know,
sort of like the the leader of

1328
01:09:25,160 –> 01:09:27,680
of the people from the rez.
And at one point he’s like, hey,

1329
01:09:27,720 –> 01:09:30,399
you know, you know, we may be
right wing, but we don’t

1330
01:09:30,399 –> 01:09:32,800
practice violence.
And the the woman from the rez

1331
01:09:32,800 –> 01:09:37,640
is like we do and then proceed
to kick all their asses.

1332
01:09:38,359 –> 01:09:40,840
And that’s, it’s the sort of
thing where it’s like, you know,

1333
01:09:41,560 –> 01:09:44,359
not a proponent of violence, but
in, you know, we didn’t beat the

1334
01:09:44,359 –> 01:09:46,200
Nazis by going over and give
them hugs.

1335
01:09:46,720 –> 01:09:50,479
We beat the Nazis by nuking
Germany, by nuking Japan and

1336
01:09:50,479 –> 01:09:52,920
turning Germany into ash and
then letting the Soviets rape

1337
01:09:52,920 –> 01:09:54,440
their women for four fucking
years.

1338
01:09:54,480 –> 01:09:55,040
Correct.
Like.

1339
01:09:56,640 –> 01:09:59,720
It wasn’t like, Oh well, I’m
sure Hitler will see the way of,

1340
01:09:59,760 –> 01:10:02,520
you know, to do the right thing,
like Charles Lindbergh thought

1341
01:10:02,960 –> 01:10:05,560
to his own demise.
But it’s like, you know, like

1342
01:10:05,560 –> 01:10:09,160
sometimes you got to fucking put
somebody’s Dick in the dirt and,

1343
01:10:09,480 –> 01:10:12,840
you know, and that’s sadly where
I think this country’s going

1344
01:10:13,000 –> 01:10:15,280
again.
Not to get too off the tracks,

1345
01:10:15,320 –> 01:10:17,640
but sometimes you got to put
some people’s sticks in the dirt

1346
01:10:17,640 –> 01:10:19,400
to really get them to change
their fucking mind.

1347
01:10:19,680 –> 01:10:20,640
Yeah.
Yeah.

1348
01:10:20,800 –> 01:10:24,240
That is true.
So I think that’s our episode,

1349
01:10:24,240 –> 01:10:25,720
right?
We get it, yeah.

1350
01:10:25,880 –> 01:10:28,600
Yeah, that was a lot of fun that
I really appreciate talking

1351
01:10:28,600 –> 01:10:31,680
about this wonderful UAP.
Did I get that right?

1352
01:10:31,680 –> 01:10:31,920
UAP.
UAP.

1353
01:10:32,440 –> 01:10:36,120
Considers.
Yeah, these these aliens in

1354
01:10:36,160 –> 01:10:37,880
there.
I don’t want to get cancelled

1355
01:10:37,960 –> 01:10:40,040
for calling them out of their
name.

1356
01:10:40,080 –> 01:10:44,960
They are Uaps now.
Uaps, which again, it does not

1357
01:10:44,960 –> 01:10:47,240
imply extraterrestrial.
No, no.

1358
01:10:47,440 –> 01:10:49,680
Just means we don’t know what
that plane is.

1359
01:10:49,960 –> 01:10:52,640
You know that plane that’s also
dipping into the water?

1360
01:10:52,880 –> 01:10:55,400
Yeah, well, it’s probably for
the new James Bond movie, right?

1361
01:10:55,400 –> 01:10:57,520
I’m sure they’re going to have
some crazy technology for that.

1362
01:10:57,600 –> 01:10:59,160
You know they got a one up
Casino Royale.

1363
01:10:59,600 –> 01:11:01,760
Yeah, yeah, this is all just
movie promo.

1364
01:11:01,920 –> 01:11:03,920
It’s for the next.
It’s the next Cloverfield movie,

1365
01:11:04,040 –> 01:11:06,320
actually.
It’s actually just Tom Cruise

1366
01:11:06,320 –> 01:11:08,000
working on Mission Impossible
19.

1367
01:11:08,720 –> 01:11:12,480
Yeah, using time travel.
You’re crazy.

1368
01:11:13,400 –> 01:11:14,720
Oh man, no.
This was a lot of fun.

1369
01:11:14,720 –> 01:11:16,760
I appreciate the invitation.
Yeah.

1370
01:11:16,760 –> 01:11:18,640
Thank you for doing it.
I appreciate it.

1371
01:11:18,920 –> 01:11:21,520
What have we got to plug before
we get out of here?

1372
01:11:21,520 –> 01:11:25,120
Where can people find you?
You can find me on Instagram at

1373
01:11:25,160 –> 01:11:28,160
ZTP Whiskey.
That’s where I post about my

1374
01:11:28,160 –> 01:11:30,760
adventures in whiskey.
Or you can go to abrox.com,

1375
01:11:30,760 –> 01:11:33,640
where I write about whiskey
every day if you need any tips

1376
01:11:33,640 –> 01:11:36,920
for you know, the best whiskeys
of the year, what to buy that

1377
01:11:36,920 –> 01:11:39,160
special someone in your life
who’s also a whiskey lover.

1378
01:11:39,160 –> 01:11:40,840
You’ll be seeing a lot of that
in the next weeks.

1379
01:11:40,840 –> 01:11:45,560
And yeah, it’s if that’s it,
that’s that’s I’m not on online

1380
01:11:45,560 –> 01:11:47,600
in any other way.
Very nice.

1381
01:11:47,600 –> 01:11:49,200
Yeah.
I’m on Instagram.

1382
01:11:49,200 –> 01:11:50,760
You can find me there at Adam
Todd Brown.

1383
01:11:50,760 –> 01:11:55,280
I’m also on Blue Sky, but you
need an invite And I don’t

1384
01:11:55,280 –> 01:11:57,440
fucking know my blue.
It’s so complicated.

1385
01:11:57,440 –> 01:12:01,400
It’s like Adam Todd Brown dot
BKSKY.

1386
01:12:01,400 –> 01:12:04,160
Some convoluted shit Make that
easier.

1387
01:12:04,160 –> 01:12:09,640
Blue Sky and so you can follow
me on sub stack at

1388
01:12:09,640 –> 01:12:12,360
adamtoddbrown.substack.com and I
think that’s it.

1389
01:12:12,360 –> 01:12:15,680
Let’s get the fuck out of here.
I’m about to go eat a Mcrib.

1390
01:12:15,960 –> 01:12:18,400
Zack, say goodbye.
Goodbye.

1391
01:12:19,080 –> 01:12:26,360
Goodbye everybody.
We love you, people of Earth.

1392
01:12:27,200 –> 01:12:28,960
Your planet just has to be
destroyed.