Conspiracy! The Show 271: The Game Is Rigged

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Let’s get to the show.
Welcome to Conspiracy the Show,

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the world’s most trusted
conspiracy theory podcast, with

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your host Adam Todd Brown and
Olivia Hydar.

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Hey everybody, welcome to
Conspiracy the show.

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I’m your host Adam Todd Brown.
Joining me is Co host this week.

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Oh, my favorite Co host of all.
No Co host, but there is a guest

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in the room.
YouTube sensation John Lewis is

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here.
How’s it going?

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What up though?
And I’m probably going to run

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from the government after this
episode.

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Oh yeah, I could see that.
We’re doing one of my favorite

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episode formats.
It’s a my favorite conspiracy

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episode, which that just means
the guest brings the topic and

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the research and I get to listen
and be convinced.

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But in this case, it’s not going
to take much convincing.

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John, what is the conspiracy
you’re bringing to the show this

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week?
I don’t even know how to word

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it.
Basically my conspiracy is that

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the federal government is pretty
much actively suppressing black

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wealth building I guess.
Or I don’t know how to describe

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but you I read it you how would
you do?

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How would you title it?
I think that’s actually the

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right way to say it.
The federal government is

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actively suppressing black
wealth building.

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And yeah, I sure, I sure don’t
disagree.

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As crazy as it would be for the
American government to suppress

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anything related to black
people, this sounds about right.

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I mean civil rights.
They did that, so why not wealth

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also?
So the thing about this

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conspiracy is I didn’t really
realize it was a conspiracy up

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until a few years ago because I
grew up in Detroit for people

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that never heard any episodes
about me.

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So like this is stuff like we
just all thought was common

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knowledge, like literally
teachers would teach it.

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Like we learnt about redlining
and stuff like that.

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And the more as I started
working and stuff with a lot of

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other cultures, I realized the
average American doesn’t know

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what redlining is.
Like that’s you would think

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that’s just something everybody
knows about like if you just if

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we just started redlining in the
basic definition of a

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conspiracy, it’s literally a
conspiracy that’s been proven.

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So the TLDR version is that once
black people started being will

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stop to being property and they
was like fine, buy houses.

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All of the real estate agents,
they got together and was like,

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all right, well when we sell
black people houses, they can’t

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go past these areas in each city
and they drew up red lines and

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it’s wide now all the way in
2024.

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Basically the worst part of any
city is the South Side and it’s

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mostly and it’s basically almost
all black or every city.

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You can kind of tell what the
black area is, and that’s not by

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coincidence.
Yeah, I bring that up about LAA

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Bunch.
I don’t know if I’ve ever talked

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about it on the Conspiracy pod,
but LA is a place where that

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happened very famously, like
blatantly.

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And LA is still one of the most
segregated places I’ve ever

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lived.
And it feels intentional.

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Like LA of all places, really
needs a robust public transit

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system.
And we don’t have it.

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And I think it’s because they
don’t want poor people, people

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of color, being able to like
really get to a place like Santa

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Monica and fucking hang out.
And so yeah, you just don’t it.

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It very much is in LA, like
South LA, that’s where all the

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black people are, and East LA is
where all the brown people are.

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Like it’s it’s still that way.
Right.

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And just not only did that
happen, but it also the way

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America is built, they literally
changed laws so that this

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effects generation after
generation.

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So a couple books I want to
recommend to people.

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One is by this orphan named
Jonathan Mitts.

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So it’s called White Flight.
No, it’s a no.

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Jonathan Mitzel is dying of
whiteness and the other one is

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white flight.
I might get the officers mixed

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up, but they in certain parts
they talk about all of this.

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But anyway, so the way it works
in America is so say you live in

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a specific zip code and you pay
taxes, the property tax and all

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of that goes to pay for public
schooling.

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So because they’ve already set
up redlining and they’ve

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artificially suppressed what
black home values can be, that

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trickles down to public schools.
So I asked people, either it’s

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one of two things, either black
people just don’t care about

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schooling and our schools are
just shitty because of that, or

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somehow this money is not going
to us and our schools are always

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way worse in public schools in
the suburbs because it’s been

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proven that because of what
they’ve done.

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That’s why our schools are
underfunded and the suburban

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schools.
You would think that it doesn’t

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work like that in any other
area.

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Like, imagine if your tax
dollars went to the roads near

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where you live instead of just
evenly divided across the state

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and country you know.
Yeah, yeah, that is weird when

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it comes to how those property
taxes work, because yeah, there

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aren’t any.
I can’t think of any other

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examples where, yeah, why pay
this tax, but it’s just for my

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neighborhood.
But I didn’t realize that’s how

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like property taxes work.
Yeah, it all goes into it.

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That’s why poor more poor zip
codes and sister schools are

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always worse.
They can’t have all of this.

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And the main reason this episode
came into my head is, well, it’s

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actually one of two things.
It just came out article that a

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Navy Federal Credit Union
basically they were it happens

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with all banks, literally like
all banks if you read the

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article.
But Navy Federal Credit Union,

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they were doing it a lot more.
They were basically turning away

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black applicants at a higher
rate than white, even if all

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criteria was met.
Or even better, like in some

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cases they were showing that
like a black household making

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140,000 were more likely to get
turned down than the white

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household making like 65,000 for
a mortgage Like.

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How is that possible?
And yeah, a couple things we

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should point out about that
article.

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We’ll link to it.
It’s a really good article.

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For one thing, CNN, man, they’ve
really been challenging the

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government on the front page
lately like you don’t you don’t

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normally see it from them.
We just did an episode a couple

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weeks ago where they talked
about this disappearance of this

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Iowa newspaper carrier back in
the 80s.

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And at the end they’re like,
maybe it was the government.

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It’s really fucking interesting.
And this too.

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They’re like Navy Federal Credit
Union.

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That sounds like a niche thing,
but they’re actually the largest

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credit union in the US, and they
serve all military members and

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their families.
So they got a lot of fucking

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applicants, a lot of customers,
a lot of people coming to them

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for mortgages.
And yeah, the statistics in this

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article are fucking nuts.
Also, it’s another thing like, I

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swear I thought it was deja vu,
like a couple months ago it was

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some article I read.
They were like, Oh yeah, and

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just so you all know that black
home appraisals, if the house is

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black, it’s going to be under
appraised by like 30 to 40%.

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I forget the exact number and
I’m like, is this a reprint?

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I swear I just read this article
a year and a half ago.

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So I Googled it and they were
like, Oh no, yeah, we literally

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just did an article about this
two years ago.

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So basically what happened is
this black family, they were

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trying to get their home
appraised.

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I’m not sure exactly what home
appraisals do.

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I can’t afford a home.
So I think it has something to

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do with your insurance.
But basically they were trying

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to get their home appraised to
sell it.

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I think it has something to do
with that.

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So the the people came out, they
were like, yeah, your house is X

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amount they like, that doesn’t
seem right.

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I looked at Zillow and all of my
neighbors.

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So he get a white family to come
live in his house and called I

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think either the same company or
another one.

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I want to say it’s the same one.
It went up by like 30%.

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Yeah, this happened in two
different stories, different

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areas.
And it’s so common that like,

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it’s been like all of the stuff
I’m talking about this is being

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like, well known and jokes in a
black community.

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It’s actually a show.
It was surprisingly good with

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Tracy Morgan, the last OG.
You ever seen it?

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You ever heard of me?
Not.

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But I’ve always wanted to watch
it.

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I’ve heard good things and
actually Morgan a lot.

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Yeah, I was surprised like he’s
in.

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He’s one of them.
Like I can only handle 70% Tracy

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Morgan. 100% Tracy Morgan is way
too much.

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But on that show he’s 70% Tracy
Morgan.

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But they literally did a whole
episode like that where his mom

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used his white friend or his.
I think it was just a ex-wife

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white husband.
She was like, hey, can you just

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live in my house for a couple
days while I had this helm?

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Phrasal.
And it’ll get higher.

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Like, these are things.
Yeah.

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The thing is, like, I don’t even
consider this a conspiracy

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episode because, like, this is
all stuff if you’re black.

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The black viewers listening
like, man, it’s ain’t no

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conspiracy.
We all know this.

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We’ve always been told that no
matter what, if you’re even if

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you have the same income, no
arrest record, it’s going to be

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harder to get a mortgage.
It’s going to be harder to get a

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job.
Like, I forget the exact number.

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I want to say it’s 3 but like
it’s literally been proven that

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if 3 black families moving to a
household, I mean moving to a

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neighborhood, the value goes
down even if they bring make the

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same amount of money.
You know, no criminal record

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like what is that besides the
government or house or if it’s

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not the government, the housing
market discriminating against

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black, you know?
Yeah, yeah.

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And I think it belongs on a
conspiracy episode because it’s

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a thing that I’d say more than
just white people like

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conservatives.
I think right wingers tend to

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have this belief that, I mean,
sure, there’s still racist

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people in the world, but it
doesn’t like, impact your life.

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Like you can just pull yourself
up from your bootstraps, Like

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why not just work a little
harder?

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And it’s it’s like so much more
complicated than that.

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Like in situations like this, it
is literally the system being

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rigged against people and making
things harder for people and you

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can’t argue pull yourself up
from your bootstraps if it’s not

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a level playing field.
Like if just purely by virtue of

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being white, you have all these
other opportunities that other

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groups don’t have, like that has
to be fixed before you can start

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making the pull yourself up from
your bootstraps argument.

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And this is like just one
example of this happening, like

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it’s been a thing forever.
Yeah, this things like I would

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try and have past white
coworkers like he I would tell

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him stuff like this, he’d never
even heard of it.

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Like he’d never heard of
redlining.

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And the way America is, I think
like a past episode.

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You were just talking about
someone were saying that the

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average American, what was it,
the United Kingdom or something

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like that they they never heard
of.

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So I wouldn’t be surprised if
the average person never heard

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of redlining and they just like,
oh, that’s not real or that’s a

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myth.
And just to go back into that,

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like in one of the books, not
only did they create redlining,

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but up until the point that
black people started buying

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houses just to be a mortgage
agent, you didn’t need to pass

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all of these tests and stuff.
They literally created that

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because they didn’t want black
real estate agents to be able to

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sell homes.
And then they were like, all

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right, y’all can sell homes, but
y’all can only sell them to

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black people.
And in these areas, like, it’s

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it’s crazy.
And like Americans, we look at

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different countries, like
they’ll look at somewhere like

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Finland or Denmark or Japan.
They like, how do they have

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public transit in 150 mile per
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I’m like, well, when you don’t
have racism or your population

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is 97% that everybody is fine
with working towards a better

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goal, but like, people don’t
realize how much racism actually

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holds America back, you know?
I mean, we spend a lot of time

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and resources into keeping it a
thing.

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Of course, it’s going to hold us
back like in so many ways and

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like back to this article,
there’s so many, like, crazy

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stats in this that make it
really clear that this has to be

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intentional.
Like this is a government agency

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for all intents and purposes.
And when they’re pressed on

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this, like there’s one loan in
particular that they talk about

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where this guy went to try and
get a home loan.

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And he had done business with
Navy Federal Credit Union.

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He paid off a bunch of auto
loans.

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His credit score was over 700.
I think he made like $140,000 a

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year.
He had a 20% down payment.

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Like, that sounds like
everything you need to get a

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home loan.
And for some reason, Navy

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Federal Credit Union was like,
no, we can’t do it.

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And then he goes to another
lender and gets approved in like

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2 weeks.
And when they pressed Navy

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Federal Credit Union on that,
they’re like, well, you know, we

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take a lot of factors into
account, like credit score and

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things like that.
And they were like, well, this

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guy’s loan wasn’t denied for his
credit score.

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So what was it?
And they’re like, oh, no, we’re

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not going to tell you, like, CNN
asked for the, you know,

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paperwork or anything that would
show what justifies this

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disparity in loan approvals.
And they just won’t do it.

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And like, that’s a conspiracy.
Like, that’s that’s a government

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agency actively working to
nefarious ends in saying they’re

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doing something otherwise.
Yeah, and it all plays into each

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other.
It’s such a complicated thing to

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explain because like the average
person, your most expensive

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expense each month is living.
Rather, that’s rent.

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Or rather, that’s mortgage.
Like if a parent died or

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something that left you a house,
even if you don’t live in it,

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you go sell their house for
$300,000.

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That’s life changing money.
You can put a down payment, or

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if you got a house, you can pay
off a house and that just

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created a new level of wealth
for you.

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So now imagine instead of
300,000 because you’re black,

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that’s 130,000.
Which is nice.

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But think about how much that
affects just the black economy

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over decades and stuff over
decades and decades.

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Yeah, And it is a thing that’s
been like it’s the history of

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this country.
There was the the Was it Tulsa?

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Yep, the race riots.
The Tulsa race riots, like,

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sometimes it’s as blatant as
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I don’t know what point in
history people think the United

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States changed that much.
Like at what point have we

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stopped suppressing the rights
of non white people?

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It’s what we were built on.
This country is built on the

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back of two different genocides.
We fucking teamed up with the

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Nazis after World War 2, like,
that’s documented.

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Operation Paper Clip, We’ve
talked about that a ton on this.

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So like after World War 2, we’re
half Nazi and we have this whole

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population of people who are
starting to like, ask for equal

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rights and we start doing a
bunch of Nazi shit to like wipe

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out the entire progressive wing
of the government that is also

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pushing for those things.
Like that’s we know all that

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happened.
I don’t know at what point

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people think that is supposed to
have stopped because from there

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you go into the war on drugs and
private prisons and crack, which

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are all things We also as a
government kind of started.

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So like, why would, I don’t know
why this would surprise anyone,

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but I know it does.
I know there’s people who read

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this and are like, Can you
believe it?

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Right.
And to go back, to go back to

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Tulsa, that’s just one of many
race riots I read a lot.

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So a lot of these numbers get
mixed up in my head.

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They called it like the Red
Summer.

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It was like a 24 month period
where I forget how many race

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riots happened in America.
And Tulsa is the most famous.

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And by most famous, I mean a lot
of the, well, a lot of white

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Americans learned about it
because of the HBO show the

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Watchmen.
Like it was a it was all over

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the like Google and stuff like
people were Googling Tulsa race

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riot.
They were like oh this is just

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made-up for the superhero show.
Right.

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And they were like, no, this is
actually pretty much from our

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history, exactly how it
happened.

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And I wrote a Cracked article at
one point about communities we

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burned down like for no reason.
And I put the Tulsa race riot in

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that.
And there were people who were

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like, oh, I had never heard of
this.

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And it’s like fucking.
I’m the first person you heard

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this from.
That makes sense, ’cause I

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didn’t hear about it until I
started researching this

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article.
So yeah, like, we don’t teach

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racism in school.
That’s.

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Yeah.
And like, it’s even it’s going

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to be even more difficult.
Like, I just so happened to go

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to a school where half of the
teachers lived through the 1967

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Detroit riots.
So, you know, they knew the

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history and they would just,
like go off script.

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But like the average person, a
lot of black people don’t know

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this history.
And like, basically the toaster

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riots is when black people did
exactly what conservatives say.

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They pulled themselves up by the
bootstraps, made their own

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community.
They had black doctors, black

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entrepreneurs, deli owners, all
of that.

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And the white residents were
like, well, we can’t be having

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that.
And they just burnt it all,

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burnt it down.
They use the usual excuse that

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they claim some black kid either
whistled at or raped a white

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girl or something.
But, and like, it’s rumors.

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It’s never been officially
confirmed, but like, they’re

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always been rumors that the
United States government dropped

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a bomb on it.
Or like, pouring gasoline or

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something, depending on what
source.

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And, like, why wouldn’t they?
That’s just America, you know.

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Yeah, yeah, that’s it’s a crazy
story.

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And I think it is that he, like,
whistled or something.

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Yeah.
People should look into it.

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It’s wild.
Yeah, and to this day they can’t

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even confirm how many died.
Like I I tweeted when the show

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came out.
I was like the most unbelievable

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plot on this show about
superheroes and the dude who can

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travel through time is the
United States government giving

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black people reparations.
Like that happened on the show.

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It’s more.
And that has happened in real

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life.
Like in the show, it’s a plot.

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They have this thing to test
your DNA and if you were like a

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second or third generation
ancestor of the race riot, you

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received basically reparations.
And I’m like, yeah, that’s way

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more.
And to me, that’s a more more

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unbelievable than some aliens
showing up because.

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That’s a really romanticized
vision of the US government.

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Like, I don’t deny that there’s
people in the US government who

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want that, but I just don’t
think it’s what the US

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government as a whole wants.
Like the aims of this government

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are way more unified than people
make them out to be.

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Like we both the the two sides
fight over the petty shit.

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But when it comes to stuff like,
you know, incarceration laws,

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criminal justice, immigrants,
this government is pretty much

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in lockstep no matter what
administration is in place.

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Joe Biden is, against all odds,
about to be the president who

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builds the wall, and it’s
because Republicans won’t give

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more money to Ukraine if he
doesn’t.

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So he’s like, fuck it, I’m a
right winger when it comes to

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immigration now.
And like, that’s why shit like

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this is so much in danger of
never being fixed.

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At the end of the day, America
is a capitalist country.

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And like if you were to break it
all down, one of the basically

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cornerstones of capitalism is it
has to be like this lower

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working class to keep everybody
else motivated to say if you

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don’t take part in it, this
could be you.

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And evidently, America decided
that has to be.

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For the most part, black people,
you know, it’s like, if we do,

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you know, about the GI Bill
thing.

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No, tell me about it.
Basically, I want to say, was it

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after World War 2?
I’m pretty sure it was after

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World War 2.
Basically, when the GI Bill came

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out, it was for veterans but not
black people.

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That’s basically it.
They like, wait, so you telling

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me we helped defeat the Nazis,
but the GI Bill can’t help us.

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And the GI Bill is how so many
generations built basic wealth.

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They were able to get home
loans, get a decent amount to

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put down.
And back then in the 40s, if you

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got a house, that’s how so many
families were able to have a

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house, two cars, a wife that
doesn’t work and two kids you

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got.
That’s a huge leg up.

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Yeah.
And it’s in one of the books I

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read.
I want to say it’s one of the

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books I read or either a
documentary like or either it

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was either impossible, they
either made it a law that black

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people couldn’t get the GI Bill
or you had to jump through like

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1000 steps.
And like their stories about

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post carriers, they were like
tear up the mail that included

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anything like that for black
residents.

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So they wouldn’t even get the
mail about things like that.

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Like you cannot tell me like if
if, even if it’s not the

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government, it’s been ingrained
in America that for some reason

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black people being equal means
less for you, which is

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completely nuts.
Yeah, that is an insane notion.

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But it does seem to be the thing
that people lean on, like, well,

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what’s going to be taken from me
if this happens?

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But also, I don’t even know if
it’s that complicated.

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I think some people are just
fucking racist and just don’t

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want to see black people do
better succeed.

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And I think those elements exist
in the government.

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I think there is a sizable
portion of this country’s

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population that thinks that’s
what America is like.

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I think they see native people,
black people, as like a war that

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we’ve won, and this is just how
war goes like we won.

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So we live a little bit better
than you do.

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It’s an insane fucking idea and
that’s why no one ever says it

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out loud.
But it feels like that’s got to

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be part of it.
Because like the idea that,

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well, we’re living in a post
racism world, you have to be

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either so willfully ignorant or
just like lying because you want

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things to be the way they are.
Like I think some people are

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just fucking racist.
Like I know it.

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I know that’s the case.
Yeah, and for years, I just

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always thought that that was
like, some Internet joke that I

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didn’t get.
Like the Oh yeah, Obama won,

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racism is over.
But there were, it turns out

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there was really white people
that believe that.

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Like, how could America be
racist?

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We elected a black president.
Like, what are you talking

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about?
How could America be racist?

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00:23:04,120 –> 00:23:07,080
And then half the country
started burning effigies of our

434
00:23:07,080 –> 00:23:10,440
president and it’s like, whoa,
what a fucking coincidence.

435
00:23:10,440 –> 00:23:12,840
Now you all hate the government,
right?

436
00:23:13,000 –> 00:23:15,760
Like, they’re like the most
recent example is them voting

437
00:23:15,760 –> 00:23:19,800
out affirmative action.
You let the average maybe

438
00:23:19,800 –> 00:23:20,800
liberal too.
I don’t know.

439
00:23:21,000 –> 00:23:23,880
Like all these lines, they just
words to me because like, people

440
00:23:23,880 –> 00:23:26,080
show their true colors when the
shit hit the fan.

441
00:23:26,320 –> 00:23:28,760
Like you asked the average
American, you would think that

442
00:23:28,920 –> 00:23:32,000
affirmative action meant every
black person gets into any

443
00:23:32,000 –> 00:23:34,520
college we want.
If I want to go get an office

444
00:23:34,520 –> 00:23:37,480
job, I can we get some type of
check.

445
00:23:37,720 –> 00:23:39,800
Like there’s really people that
believe all of that.

446
00:23:39,920 –> 00:23:43,440
So they voted it out and like
one of the main dudes behind it

447
00:23:43,440 –> 00:23:45,800
was some Asian kid, wasn’t he
like some candidate or

448
00:23:45,800 –> 00:23:47,120
something?
If.

449
00:23:47,280 –> 00:23:49,760
You look into the story, he
wasn’t even from America.

450
00:23:50,040 –> 00:23:52,240
They’re like, what?
We’re not the reason y’all kids

451
00:23:52,240 –> 00:23:53,840
not getting into Harvard.
Yeah.

452
00:23:53,840 –> 00:23:56,480
The reason they’re not getting
into Harvard is like 90% of the

453
00:23:56,480 –> 00:23:59,280
people in there are like kids of
Harvard graduates.

454
00:23:59,680 –> 00:24:03,600
Yeah, there’s That’s a thing I
always bring up when people are

455
00:24:03,600 –> 00:24:07,960
like, oh, we just need all these
old, rich, white racists to die

456
00:24:07,960 –> 00:24:09,440
off and then things will be
better.

457
00:24:09,440 –> 00:24:11,520
It’s like, I’m sorry, but they
have kids.

458
00:24:11,840 –> 00:24:15,000
They have kids who are like, oh,
this is how Dad got rich.

459
00:24:15,000 –> 00:24:18,240
Well, I guess I’m joining the
family business like they’re not

460
00:24:18,240 –> 00:24:20,600
growing away.
Like, and it’s like that.

461
00:24:20,800 –> 00:24:24,080
It’s like the Midwest racism
compared to Southern racism.

462
00:24:24,080 –> 00:24:27,000
Like, I tell like people don’t
really people be talking about

463
00:24:27,000 –> 00:24:28,680
the South.
Like, bro, I’m from Michigan.

464
00:24:28,840 –> 00:24:31,960
You don’t have no idea that
racism out here is just casual.

465
00:24:32,120 –> 00:24:35,320
They just say things like, Oh
yeah, yeah, you guys didn’t have

466
00:24:35,320 –> 00:24:37,120
to pay for college at you or you
got this or that.

467
00:24:37,120 –> 00:24:38,520
Like where are you getting this
from?

468
00:24:38,760 –> 00:24:40,800
Yeah, have you ever met a 30
year old?

469
00:24:40,880 –> 00:24:43,960
It’s a shit ton of racist 30
year olds that are going to grow

470
00:24:43,960 –> 00:24:47,720
up to be old 70 year olds that
inherit their family’s company.

471
00:24:47,840 –> 00:24:51,600
Yeah, and that sucks.
That’s America, you know?

472
00:24:51,840 –> 00:24:55,360
It is.
What have you heard The gangster

473
00:24:55,360 –> 00:24:58,000
rap?
Private prison conspiracy.

474
00:24:58,160 –> 00:25:01,760
Yeah, yeah, I’ve heard of it.
I I somewhat believe it like

475
00:25:02,240 –> 00:25:06,760
basically it goes at some point
the labels and the prison

476
00:25:06,760 –> 00:25:10,920
industries they were afraid that
groups like Public Enemy and the

477
00:25:10,920 –> 00:25:14,880
Tribe Called Quest their message
was could lead to like that

478
00:25:14,880 –> 00:25:17,520
basically the next civil rights
movement or something like that

479
00:25:18,160 –> 00:25:21,880
depending on how you word it.
Now it it depends because like I

480
00:25:21,920 –> 00:25:24,960
did a video kind of covering it
and a lot of the older dudes

481
00:25:24,960 –> 00:25:28,000
that were out, they were selling
saying also the thing was that

482
00:25:28,120 –> 00:25:30,480
it’s not just that they were
like that stuff was getting

483
00:25:30,480 –> 00:25:33,360
corny to them at at a while
basically because they were

484
00:25:33,360 –> 00:25:36,000
saying the music really wasn’t
reflecting what they were living

485
00:25:36,000 –> 00:25:38,200
through.
So it could be something I could

486
00:25:38,200 –> 00:25:42,120
see record labels pushing it.
But also we know in America, you

487
00:25:42,120 –> 00:25:45,560
know, if it bleeds, it leads.
So anything provocative is going

488
00:25:45,560 –> 00:25:47,720
to become popular anyway?
Yeah, yeah.

489
00:25:47,720 –> 00:25:52,800
The version of it I’ve always
heard was that the labels

490
00:25:53,040 –> 00:25:57,920
eventually were like owned by
the same parent company or had

491
00:25:57,920 –> 00:26:01,560
like the same investor group.
And those investors also had

492
00:26:01,560 –> 00:26:04,720
money in private prisons and
they were like, So what we’re

493
00:26:04,720 –> 00:26:09,720
going to do is push this music
that promotes like selling crack

494
00:26:10,000 –> 00:26:13,000
and that’s going to lead to a
shit ton of arrests and we’re

495
00:26:13,000 –> 00:26:15,080
going to fill up our private
prisons that way.

496
00:26:15,240 –> 00:26:19,360
And they’re like both versions
of that are unprovable.

497
00:26:19,520 –> 00:26:25,080
Like it’s it literally comes
from I think 1 Internet post.

498
00:26:25,080 –> 00:26:27,400
Like one guy posted and was like
you’re not going to believe what

499
00:26:27,400 –> 00:26:29,000
happened.
And he’s not.

500
00:26:29,000 –> 00:26:31,200
There’s never been any proof of
it.

501
00:26:31,280 –> 00:26:35,520
But I don’t know, it wouldn’t
surprise me like we’re a really

502
00:26:35,520 –> 00:26:38,600
crafty government.
Like, that’s one of my least

503
00:26:38,600 –> 00:26:41,560
favorite comebacks.
When you bring up a conspiracy

504
00:26:41,560 –> 00:26:44,320
theory is when people are like,
yeah, but this government,

505
00:26:44,320 –> 00:26:46,480
they’re so dumb.
They don’t, they don’t get

506
00:26:46,480 –> 00:26:47,960
anything done.
They’re stupid.

507
00:26:48,160 –> 00:26:53,240
And it’s like, man, we have been
holding down like more than half

508
00:26:53,240 –> 00:26:57,280
the population for a long, long
time and looking like the good

509
00:26:57,280 –> 00:27:00,680
guys the whole time.
Like that takes more than luck.

510
00:27:00,760 –> 00:27:04,360
That takes effort.
That takes propaganda.

511
00:27:04,360 –> 00:27:08,960
That takes a lot of moving parts
that people just don’t want to

512
00:27:08,960 –> 00:27:13,000
believe are there, I think.
Yeah, and all of this, like just

513
00:27:13,000 –> 00:27:15,240
introducing crack would have
worked anyway, even if they

514
00:27:15,240 –> 00:27:16,920
didn’t do anything to the music
once.

515
00:27:16,920 –> 00:27:19,920
If you I tell it’s the reason
why prisons don’t work.

516
00:27:20,160 –> 00:27:23,640
Going to prison is not a big
enough deterrent to somebody who

517
00:27:23,800 –> 00:27:25,920
doesn’t know where their next
meal is going to come from.

518
00:27:25,920 –> 00:27:27,920
And all you do is introduce
crack.

519
00:27:27,920 –> 00:27:30,720
Next thing you know, these dudes
are like, wait, that’s all I got

520
00:27:30,720 –> 00:27:32,960
to do.
And I can get a car and a house

521
00:27:33,520 –> 00:27:36,800
and it trickles down.
And I thought according to

522
00:27:36,800 –> 00:27:38,360
Google, this is still
unconfirmed.

523
00:27:38,360 –> 00:27:41,360
I just thought we like all
accepted that the US government

524
00:27:41,360 –> 00:27:43,200
did that.
But it’s still people are like,

525
00:27:43,200 –> 00:27:45,320
Oh no, we don’t know if the
government did that.

526
00:27:45,560 –> 00:27:47,720
So you think all these black
folks just all of a sudden got

527
00:27:47,720 –> 00:27:50,600
planes and brought over tons and
tons of powder?

528
00:27:50,880 –> 00:27:52,120
Like, what are you talking
about?

529
00:27:52,240 –> 00:27:56,840
Yeah, and it’s really
unfortunate that the guy who

530
00:27:56,960 –> 00:27:59,920
basically broke that story, Gary
Webb, he’s dead now.

531
00:27:59,920 –> 00:28:01,960
He killed himself.
Right.

532
00:28:02,480 –> 00:28:07,000
But it’s really unfortunate that
history has kind of painted that

533
00:28:07,040 –> 00:28:09,520
as well.
The New York Times and the LA

534
00:28:09,520 –> 00:28:13,160
Times discredited that story.
Or they debunked it and they

535
00:28:13,160 –> 00:28:16,720
didn’t.
All they did was criticize a

536
00:28:16,720 –> 00:28:21,680
couple of his reporting methods
and like in one case they were

537
00:28:21,680 –> 00:28:24,800
like, OK, well, here, he says it
was a lot of crack.

538
00:28:25,000 –> 00:28:28,000
It was just some.
And it’s like motherfucker talk

539
00:28:28,000 –> 00:28:31,520
about the claims.
Like they just nitpicked the

540
00:28:31,520 –> 00:28:37,120
details of how he told the story
and history has painted that as

541
00:28:37,560 –> 00:28:41,920
they debunked that story.
They absolutely did not like the

542
00:28:41,920 –> 00:28:47,000
CIA was clearly involved in
getting crack into this country.

543
00:28:47,160 –> 00:28:51,200
And I think it’s kind of naive
to assume it was just the CIA.

544
00:28:51,200 –> 00:28:54,920
There’s the story.
I think it was Detroit where the

545
00:28:54,920 –> 00:28:57,640
white boy Rick.
Yeah, that was in Detroit.

546
00:28:58,880 –> 00:29:03,160
The FBI was giving him crack.
Like they were encouraging him

547
00:29:03,160 –> 00:29:06,560
to go out and sell crack, and
then eventually they arrested

548
00:29:06,560 –> 00:29:08,800
him and he was like, you told me
to.

549
00:29:08,920 –> 00:29:10,800
What the fuck do you mean,
you’re arresting me?

550
00:29:11,000 –> 00:29:14,080
So, like, I mean, how much more
blatant do people need it to be?

551
00:29:14,240 –> 00:29:17,400
Like, that’s law enforcement
being like, hey, go fuck this

552
00:29:17,400 –> 00:29:20,480
neighborhood up for a while.
Like it’s obvious.

553
00:29:20,760 –> 00:29:22,160
Right.
And just when we talk about

554
00:29:22,160 –> 00:29:25,280
like, propaganda, these are all
stories that have been told like

555
00:29:25,400 –> 00:29:28,080
19.
See, the 1987 and 1988.

556
00:29:28,080 –> 00:29:32,160
Robert Townsend’s movie
Hollywood Shuffle is partially a

557
00:29:32,160 –> 00:29:34,320
comedy.
But what if you watch the movie?

558
00:29:34,320 –> 00:29:37,040
He’s basically saying this,
Yeah, in the 80s, if you want to

559
00:29:37,040 –> 00:29:42,480
be a black actor, only Rose is a
pimp, a drug dealer or, you

560
00:29:42,480 –> 00:29:46,800
know, some background character,
then you jump to 2000 Spike

561
00:29:46,800 –> 00:29:49,840
Lee’s movie Bamboozled.
And he’s saying, like, the only

562
00:29:49,840 –> 00:29:54,320
thing these studios want to make
is, yeah, they’ll let you do a

563
00:29:54,320 –> 00:29:57,960
Cosby Show every now and then,
but what they really want is

564
00:29:58,240 –> 00:30:01,360
gangster movies and, you know,
us shooting each other.

565
00:30:02,120 –> 00:30:03,880
And that’s, that’s what they’re
going to push.

566
00:30:03,880 –> 00:30:06,880
And like I keep saying, this is
all stuff that’s if you’re

567
00:30:06,880 –> 00:30:09,200
black, you’ve heard all of this.
If you grew up in a community

568
00:30:09,200 –> 00:30:12,760
with black folks, you’ve heard
all of these stories like the

569
00:30:12,760 –> 00:30:15,200
most recent one, just to
backtrack when we talk about

570
00:30:15,200 –> 00:30:19,880
people that they just don’t want
others to have equal, like the

571
00:30:19,880 –> 00:30:22,400
Obamacare.
If you think back, people’s main

572
00:30:22,400 –> 00:30:26,120
pushback of Obamacare was, Oh
well, what about people on

573
00:30:26,120 –> 00:30:29,440
welfare and the the immigrants?
They might use it.

574
00:30:29,680 –> 00:30:30,880
Like how does that take from
you?

575
00:30:31,280 –> 00:30:34,480
You don’t have health insurance,
but you worried about somebody

576
00:30:34,480 –> 00:30:37,160
over using it.
What does that have to do with?

577
00:30:37,240 –> 00:30:37,680
You.
Yeah.

578
00:30:37,760 –> 00:30:42,040
And like even then, like, cross
that bridge when you get to it.

579
00:30:42,080 –> 00:30:45,680
Like people will overuse.
Like if you just give people

580
00:30:45,680 –> 00:30:48,480
absolute free healthcare.
I’ve worked in the healthcare

581
00:30:48,480 –> 00:30:50,280
industry.
They’ll overuse it a little bit,

582
00:30:50,560 –> 00:30:53,080
but who fucking cares?
You still have health insurance?

583
00:30:53,160 –> 00:30:57,280
Yeah, and you’re not paying it
Like the book I read, Dying of

584
00:30:57,280 –> 00:30:59,320
Whiteness.
It’s a whole chapter he does.

585
00:30:59,960 –> 00:31:02,400
And also the interesting thing
he wrote about this book.

586
00:31:02,400 –> 00:31:05,840
Like you can throughout the book
he starts to realize that Trump

587
00:31:05,840 –> 00:31:07,680
really has a chance.
I want to say the book might

588
00:31:07,680 –> 00:31:11,200
have came out in 2016 ish or
something like that, right

589
00:31:11,200 –> 00:31:13,920
around when people realize,
like, Oh yeah, America is racist

590
00:31:14,000 –> 00:31:16,560
enough to elect Trump.
Oh, before I forget, I always

591
00:31:16,560 –> 00:31:19,840
wanted to say, and you always
say, like, yeah, when Trump was

592
00:31:19,840 –> 00:31:22,320
running, people were calling you
crazy when you were saying he

593
00:31:22,320 –> 00:31:24,800
had a chance to win.
I know tons of black people that

594
00:31:24,800 –> 00:31:27,520
were like, Oh no, America is
racist enough to elect this guy

595
00:31:27,680 –> 00:31:30,200
like that.
Like, we, a lot of us knew that

596
00:31:30,200 –> 00:31:33,680
America’s reaction to a black
president was going to be the

597
00:31:33,680 –> 00:31:36,800
most blatantly racist one.
But anyway, in the book, so he

598
00:31:36,800 –> 00:31:39,840
does these two different group
studies and just asking them

599
00:31:39,840 –> 00:31:42,520
regular questions, starts asking
them about their health and

600
00:31:42,520 –> 00:31:44,880
stuff.
And then it’s a group of white

601
00:31:44,880 –> 00:31:50,160
people from basically literally
every, every way, every class

602
00:31:50,160 –> 00:31:54,160
from the working poor to six
figures, age groups.

603
00:31:54,160 –> 00:31:56,360
And then he does the same thing
with black people.

604
00:31:56,360 –> 00:31:59,520
So they pretty much all agree on
things like, yeah, I need to eat

605
00:31:59,520 –> 00:32:01,040
better.
I need to not eat as much

606
00:32:01,040 –> 00:32:03,240
McDonald’s.
But he said, well, he noticed

607
00:32:03,240 –> 00:32:06,800
this once they got to the part
about Obamacare, to white

608
00:32:06,800 –> 00:32:10,080
participants, they just
literally had all of these crazy

609
00:32:10,080 –> 00:32:12,760
conspiracy theories.
Like, I think I changed the

610
00:32:12,760 –> 00:32:16,320
title to one of my videos.
It’s called Mexican, Mexican

611
00:32:16,320 –> 00:32:19,000
Pork chops.
Like they like, Oh no, we can’t,

612
00:32:19,000 –> 00:32:22,040
we can’t have Obamacare.
Because what happens is the

613
00:32:22,040 –> 00:32:25,120
Mexicans come over here and they
don’t, they don’t want to pick

614
00:32:25,120 –> 00:32:28,040
the vegetables and ain’t no
American’s going to do that job.

615
00:32:28,280 –> 00:32:31,160
And they get they get hofty and
they want to eat pork chops and

616
00:32:31,160 –> 00:32:33,640
stuff be like where is this
stuff coming from?

617
00:32:34,080 –> 00:32:35,640
I swear to God you have to read
the book.

618
00:32:35,640 –> 00:32:38,600
It sounds like the most insane
shit unless you read the book.

619
00:32:38,800 –> 00:32:40,600
But yeah, just.
And then when he talks to the

620
00:32:40,600 –> 00:32:43,520
black group they like, I mean,
yeah, well if we got to give

621
00:32:43,520 –> 00:32:45,720
other people something so that I
can have health care, that’s

622
00:32:45,720 –> 00:32:47,120
fine.
What the hell is it to me?

623
00:32:47,800 –> 00:32:50,880
And that’s always been the
attitude how we have to survive

624
00:32:50,880 –> 00:32:53,920
in this country.
Like, yeah, we’ve been raised to

625
00:32:53,920 –> 00:32:55,320
accept that.
All right.

626
00:32:55,320 –> 00:32:59,160
We’re going to have to find
we’ll make this we’ll we’ll give

627
00:32:59,160 –> 00:33:03,000
this up if it means this and the
average American’s reaction is

628
00:33:03,000 –> 00:33:06,000
always like Oh well no I’m not
sharing this like dude you’re

629
00:33:06,000 –> 00:33:08,560
literally not even sharing it
They just want to give you all

630
00:33:08,560 –> 00:33:12,200
healthcare like it’s most of the
book takes place in Tennessee

631
00:33:12,360 –> 00:33:14,560
like if you look in the
Tennessee, Tennessee is fucked

632
00:33:14,560 –> 00:33:16,440
up.
Most of the it’s like entire

633
00:33:16,440 –> 00:33:19,320
counties that don’t have a
doctor in it and stuff like that

634
00:33:20,000 –> 00:33:22,080
because they fought against
things like this.

635
00:33:22,360 –> 00:33:24,720
Right, Yeah.
How racist do you have to be

636
00:33:24,720 –> 00:33:28,360
that you’ll rather have COPD and
not be able to see a doctor just

637
00:33:28,360 –> 00:33:31,040
so that a black person or a
Mexican can’t?

638
00:33:31,200 –> 00:33:33,640
And he was telling them like,
y’all, y’all knew, no, y’all

639
00:33:33,640 –> 00:33:36,280
concerns.
Illegal immigrants can’t even

640
00:33:36,280 –> 00:33:38,920
get retirement.
They were saying like, Oh yeah,

641
00:33:38,920 –> 00:33:40,920
and they draw Oh no, they were
saying that, yeah.

642
00:33:40,920 –> 00:33:43,880
And these illegal immigrants,
they come over here and they get

643
00:33:43,880 –> 00:33:46,080
welfare.
He’s like, they don’t get

644
00:33:46,080 –> 00:33:48,480
welfare because they don’t have
Social Security cards.

645
00:33:48,520 –> 00:33:51,400
What are you talking about?
Yeah, and I think people would

646
00:33:51,400 –> 00:33:54,840
be, I don’t know, people who
make arguments like that would

647
00:33:54,840 –> 00:33:58,600
probably be really surprised to
know how many rich people are

648
00:33:58,600 –> 00:34:02,520
getting welfare benefits.
Like that thing where people are

649
00:34:02,520 –> 00:34:05,680
like, well, rich people don’t
get rich by spending their

650
00:34:05,680 –> 00:34:08,080
money.
That is truer than people think

651
00:34:08,080 –> 00:34:13,679
like there are, I promise you.
I guarantee there are lots and

652
00:34:13,679 –> 00:34:17,760
lots of even if they’re not
rich, they’re doing, you know,

653
00:34:17,920 –> 00:34:21,040
better than most people.
You would expect to be getting

654
00:34:21,040 –> 00:34:23,960
food stamps.
But what rich people do is they

655
00:34:23,960 –> 00:34:27,440
move their money around so it
seems like they don’t have it.

656
00:34:27,600 –> 00:34:31,159
Like they’ll give it to their
kids at like, that was the big

657
00:34:31,159 –> 00:34:34,679
New York Times.
The Trump tax scandal that they

658
00:34:34,679 –> 00:34:39,639
broke was his family over the
years would like, give their

659
00:34:39,639 –> 00:34:45,360
kids money under the guise of it
being like gifts and things.

660
00:34:45,360 –> 00:34:49,040
And all they were doing was just
moving their wealth out of their

661
00:34:49,040 –> 00:34:51,719
name so they didn’t have to pay
taxes.

662
00:34:51,840 –> 00:34:54,760
I don’t remember the exact
number, but like it’s literally

663
00:34:54,760 –> 00:34:57,480
in the hundreds of billions.
It might be trillions.

664
00:34:58,200 –> 00:35:02,040
They estimated how much wealth
was taken from basically black

665
00:35:02,040 –> 00:35:04,480
Americans through the
generations when you count

666
00:35:04,480 –> 00:35:09,120
everything from not being able
to buy houses or our areas, our

667
00:35:09,120 –> 00:35:12,840
area codes being artificially
suppressed to when you look at

668
00:35:12,840 –> 00:35:15,840
something like the Crown Act.
Which is stupid to me because

669
00:35:15,840 –> 00:35:18,320
you can’t take racist out of
people, but basically the Crown

670
00:35:18,320 –> 00:35:21,640
Act is something they pass in
like 8 states that basically say

671
00:35:21,640 –> 00:35:24,080
you can’t discriminate against
black people because of their

672
00:35:24,080 –> 00:35:25,600
hair.
Like there’s literally been

673
00:35:25,640 –> 00:35:29,120
studies that said if you’re
black and you have and you go to

674
00:35:29,120 –> 00:35:32,600
a job interview with natural
hair or if you’re a woman and

675
00:35:32,600 –> 00:35:35,240
you have braids or something,
you’re it’s a higher chance that

676
00:35:35,240 –> 00:35:38,760
you don’t get the job.
All of that stuff plays into how

677
00:35:38,760 –> 00:35:41,800
much money we make or the want
the studies to show that if you

678
00:35:41,800 –> 00:35:44,840
have a black sound in name, it’s
a higher chance that you won’t

679
00:35:44,840 –> 00:35:47,280
get a call back on your resume.
Yeah, yeah.

680
00:35:47,280 –> 00:35:48,800
And that stuff is all
documented.

681
00:35:48,800 –> 00:35:52,080
It’s not like just rumors.
Like, those are things people

682
00:35:52,080 –> 00:35:55,160
have looked into.
People have run studies, done

683
00:35:55,160 –> 00:36:00,120
reports, like it’s all real.
And it’s just so frustrating how

684
00:36:00,120 –> 00:36:03,800
many people, I think even people
on the left don’t want to

685
00:36:03,800 –> 00:36:08,080
believe things are as bad in
that regard as they really are.

686
00:36:08,080 –> 00:36:11,080
Like, we want to believe we’ve
made a significant amount of

687
00:36:11,080 –> 00:36:14,160
progress in terms of civil
rights.

688
00:36:14,160 –> 00:36:19,480
And yeah, yeah, like some.
But I mean, you got to admit

689
00:36:19,560 –> 00:36:22,840
it’s not enough.
Like things are still really

690
00:36:22,840 –> 00:36:25,560
fucking bad.
And then like the left is great

691
00:36:25,560 –> 00:36:28,960
at losing sight of with things
like this.

692
00:36:28,960 –> 00:36:33,080
Like we tend to have like 1
issue at a time that we really

693
00:36:33,240 –> 00:36:35,640
care about.
Like when Trump came into

694
00:36:35,640 –> 00:36:39,720
office, my my concern was like,
especially his take on

695
00:36:39,720 –> 00:36:44,120
immigration because that’s a
thing that can transcend race.

696
00:36:44,120 –> 00:36:48,320
Like you can get black people
into being against immigration

697
00:36:48,320 –> 00:36:51,400
also really fucking easy and for
good reason.

698
00:36:51,400 –> 00:36:54,240
Like there is something to be
said for OK, well you’re making

699
00:36:54,240 –> 00:36:56,480
sure they’re getting jobs but
not here.

700
00:36:56,480 –> 00:36:59,440
Like, that’s that’s one of the
arguments I brought up about

701
00:36:59,720 –> 00:37:03,720
Trump was one of his programs
early on.

702
00:37:03,720 –> 00:37:07,680
Like, I do feel like Trump
wanted to go for the black vote

703
00:37:07,760 –> 00:37:10,400
immediately.
If you read his first campaign

704
00:37:10,400 –> 00:37:15,520
platforms, one of the things he
suggested or recommended, which

705
00:37:15,800 –> 00:37:18,480
I know people bring up crazy
shit when they’re campaigning

706
00:37:18,480 –> 00:37:20,680
all the time.
But one of his things was a

707
00:37:20,680 –> 00:37:23,160
refugee program for American
kids.

708
00:37:23,520 –> 00:37:28,920
And it was basically the idea
was, well, you have kids living

709
00:37:28,920 –> 00:37:32,720
in places like Chicago,
Baltimore, Washington, DC, where

710
00:37:32,720 –> 00:37:35,680
there’s just a shit ton of gun
violence.

711
00:37:35,840 –> 00:37:40,360
And sometimes like maybe only an
older sibling is the only, like

712
00:37:40,360 –> 00:37:42,640
parental figure left.
Like, these were all Trump

713
00:37:42,880 –> 00:37:45,880
arguments.
And his thing was, well, what

714
00:37:45,880 –> 00:37:49,560
you do is you take those kids
out of those communities and

715
00:37:49,560 –> 00:37:54,000
move them to like safer places
like Middle America.

716
00:37:54,240 –> 00:37:56,240
I guess.
I don’t know if that was going

717
00:37:56,240 –> 00:38:02,280
to involve like foster families
or fucking group homes or what.

718
00:38:02,360 –> 00:38:06,560
But that was a recommend that
like that was a platform of his.

719
00:38:06,760 –> 00:38:10,960
And I could picture people being
like, well yeah, that’s what

720
00:38:11,160 –> 00:38:14,680
people people on the left want
for immigrants like, the

721
00:38:14,680 –> 00:38:18,440
argument on the left is okay.
Well, you’re living in Central

722
00:38:18,440 –> 00:38:20,760
America.
It’s a fucking war-torn

723
00:38:20,760 –> 00:38:23,160
nightmare.
Of course you should be able to

724
00:38:23,160 –> 00:38:26,040
come here.
And I feel like if he went with

725
00:38:26,040 –> 00:38:29,080
that policy, that was gonna be
the pushback.

726
00:38:29,080 –> 00:38:31,120
People on the left would be
like, no, that’s stupid.

727
00:38:31,120 –> 00:38:34,200
We don’t need that because this
is the United States, and it’s

728
00:38:34,200 –> 00:38:36,480
fine.
And then a lot of voters could

729
00:38:36,480 –> 00:38:39,720
have been like, OK, so you want
it for immigrants, but not for

730
00:38:39,720 –> 00:38:43,360
people in these communities.
And I’m glad that didn’t happen,

731
00:38:43,440 –> 00:38:47,480
because that program sounds like
it could end in disaster.

732
00:38:47,640 –> 00:38:48,200
Really.
Yeah.

733
00:38:48,240 –> 00:38:51,920
Just removing somebody from a
whole, from an entire community,

734
00:38:51,920 –> 00:38:55,320
breaking up communities.
You know, community is more than

735
00:38:55,320 –> 00:38:58,400
just where you live.
It’s the the culture, the, you

736
00:38:58,400 –> 00:39:00,560
know, yeah, that’s something you
can’t replace.

737
00:39:06,560 –> 00:39:09,520
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00:39:09,520 –> 00:39:11,960
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758
00:40:15,200 –> 00:40:23,520
Let’s get back to the show.
But also back to the immigrant

759
00:40:23,520 –> 00:40:25,760
thing.
Like I said, America, one of his

760
00:40:25,760 –> 00:40:28,880
greatest things outside of
capitalism is keeping people

761
00:40:28,880 –> 00:40:31,040
divided.
So like when you think back to

762
00:40:31,400 –> 00:40:34,240
the Rodney King riots.
But also I think it was like in

763
00:40:34,240 –> 00:40:37,000
LA when the Korean lady shot the
little girl she thought was

764
00:40:37,000 –> 00:40:39,840
stealing.
But what was building up is

765
00:40:39,840 –> 00:40:42,440
because I guess it’s not a thing
out here.

766
00:40:42,440 –> 00:40:45,480
But apparently in LA it is for
like, you have a lot of shop

767
00:40:45,480 –> 00:40:48,960
owners, liquor stores like out
here, they all own the beauty

768
00:40:48,960 –> 00:40:50,960
supply stores.
They’re like Korean owned and

769
00:40:50,960 –> 00:40:53,840
black people were like, how are
other groups able to come to

770
00:40:53,840 –> 00:40:57,120
this country and they get
whatever type of assistance you

771
00:40:57,120 –> 00:41:01,160
know they get, But when we try
it, we either are denied or we

772
00:41:01,160 –> 00:41:04,200
have a toaster situation.
So things like that, when you

773
00:41:04,200 –> 00:41:07,840
have other groups it all, it’s
all a part of America’s plan and

774
00:41:07,840 –> 00:41:10,840
things like that, it don’t sound
like a conspiracy until you

775
00:41:10,840 –> 00:41:13,320
think about it.
Like what other reason would it

776
00:41:13,320 –> 00:41:15,800
be?
Like where I live, I live in

777
00:41:15,800 –> 00:41:19,040
Detroit for people that never
heard of Dearborn, like Dearborn

778
00:41:19,040 –> 00:41:22,560
is like 10 minutes from Detroit.
Dearborn has the largest Middle

779
00:41:22,560 –> 00:41:27,120
Eastern population in America,
like, but beyond that they have

780
00:41:27,120 –> 00:41:30,840
their entire own community.
Like if you drive through it,

781
00:41:30,840 –> 00:41:33,880
it’s like being in the modern
part of the Middle East.

782
00:41:34,320 –> 00:41:38,240
They have their own lawyers,
doctors, delis, mechanics, and

783
00:41:38,240 –> 00:41:41,280
not only that, they have signs
in Arabic.

784
00:41:41,280 –> 00:41:44,240
So it’s like you have your own
community if you come over

785
00:41:44,240 –> 00:41:46,680
there.
So the people don’t, a lot of

786
00:41:46,680 –> 00:41:49,080
people don’t understand why a
lot of black people have anger

787
00:41:49,080 –> 00:41:51,520
towards stuff like that.
They’re like, we literally did

788
00:41:51,520 –> 00:41:54,640
what Y’all told us to do and
they burnt our shit down.

789
00:41:54,920 –> 00:41:58,880
But how is it that in every
major city you have a Chinatown.

790
00:41:59,400 –> 00:42:02,400
In Dearborn you have an entire
culture that can support

791
00:42:02,400 –> 00:42:04,320
themselves.
We call it Mexican town.

792
00:42:04,320 –> 00:42:06,400
Like in Detroit, in the
Southwest part they have their

793
00:42:06,400 –> 00:42:09,840
own area, they self-sufficient.
You could either bilingual or

794
00:42:09,840 –> 00:42:13,160
only speak Spanish And then they
look at and then other groups

795
00:42:13,160 –> 00:42:15,480
look at black people like see
everybody else did it.

796
00:42:15,480 –> 00:42:18,320
We like, we tried.
You’re burning it down every

797
00:42:18,320 –> 00:42:20,320
time.
Yeah, it’s treated a lot

798
00:42:20,320 –> 00:42:24,520
different when that part of town
is just black people like.

799
00:42:24,520 –> 00:42:28,800
Yeah, it’s like OK we need we
need this under surveillance or

800
00:42:28,960 –> 00:42:32,320
or every crime is over reported
or something like that.

801
00:42:32,800 –> 00:42:36,040
I mean, I guarantee you Dearborn
is under some government

802
00:42:36,120 –> 00:42:38,200
surveillance too, like.
Oh yeah.

803
00:42:38,240 –> 00:42:39,640
Well, yeah, Dearborn.
Yeah, definitely.

804
00:42:39,640 –> 00:42:41,960
Especially after 911.
But I mean, just in general,

805
00:42:41,960 –> 00:42:45,760
like, it’s just weird that, you
know that every other area, like

806
00:42:45,760 –> 00:42:48,800
I’m sure the Chinatown and LA or
whatever maybe.

807
00:42:48,800 –> 00:42:51,320
I’m not sure what they call it.
They have their own thing.

808
00:42:51,320 –> 00:42:53,680
Like if you were to just come
from one of those communities,

809
00:42:53,880 –> 00:42:57,440
you can feel at home, you can
speak your native language, you

810
00:42:57,440 –> 00:43:01,040
can find authentic dishes.
Well, black people, we don’t,

811
00:43:01,120 –> 00:43:02,440
you know, we don’t have any of
that.

812
00:43:02,800 –> 00:43:04,920
And I mean, I had another point
I was about to.

813
00:43:05,320 –> 00:43:09,960
And I do feel like even in cases
where there is that, like, we

814
00:43:09,960 –> 00:43:13,520
don’t label it that people are
like, oh, well, there’s the

815
00:43:13,520 –> 00:43:16,040
ghetto.
And it’s like, no, that’s just

816
00:43:16,320 –> 00:43:18,720
like, that’s just the community
where black people live.

817
00:43:18,720 –> 00:43:22,520
Like, especially in LA, we got
Koreatown, we got Filipino Town,

818
00:43:22,520 –> 00:43:25,040
we got Chinatown, and then we
have S LA.

819
00:43:25,040 –> 00:43:28,000
And it’s like, well, that’s
that’s where all the crime is.

820
00:43:28,000 –> 00:43:29,640
And it’s like, yeah, you’ve been
to Koreatown.

821
00:43:29,640 –> 00:43:31,240
There’s crime there too.
There’s crime everywhere.

822
00:43:31,240 –> 00:43:35,280
In LA it’s just we give it a
different name when it’s like

823
00:43:35,440 –> 00:43:39,520
it’s just Englewood if it’s
black people, which that’s weird

824
00:43:39,640 –> 00:43:41,760
and probably very intentional.
Right.

825
00:43:42,320 –> 00:43:45,240
Or like it’s it’s so much little
certain people never heard of

826
00:43:45,240 –> 00:43:48,680
like outside of a toast that we
had back in the days in Detroit,

827
00:43:48,680 –> 00:43:51,960
we had something called Black
Wall Street and it was a small

828
00:43:51,960 –> 00:43:53,480
area.
I want to say it was on the West

829
00:43:53,480 –> 00:43:55,040
side of Detroit.
I forget what area.

830
00:43:55,040 –> 00:43:59,440
But like they had their own
communities, black tailors, shoe

831
00:43:59,440 –> 00:44:02,400
shop owners, if you wanted to
pretty much anything you wanted

832
00:44:02,400 –> 00:44:04,560
to do.
And it created a lot of wealth.

833
00:44:04,600 –> 00:44:08,200
And the US government literally
came through, tore it down and

834
00:44:08,200 –> 00:44:10,320
built the freeway.
And, you know, those people

835
00:44:10,320 –> 00:44:14,440
weren’t properly compensated.
No, no, Yeah, that happened.

836
00:44:14,600 –> 00:44:16,600
Like, think there’s stories like
that in LA.

837
00:44:16,600 –> 00:44:19,040
There’s.
Pretty much every major city it

838
00:44:19,080 –> 00:44:20,760
all.
If you trace it back, all of

839
00:44:20,760 –> 00:44:23,280
those areas where they built
freeways over were all

840
00:44:23,280 –> 00:44:27,520
Black-owned areas.
Yeah, there was one story here

841
00:44:27,520 –> 00:44:31,480
in LA that I guess has somewhat
of a happy ending, but there was

842
00:44:31,480 –> 00:44:35,920
this family way back in the day
that had like beachfront

843
00:44:35,920 –> 00:44:39,640
property in.
Miami Beach, I know it wasn’t.

844
00:44:39,640 –> 00:44:41,640
I wasn’t in Miami.
But I think I heard of this.

845
00:44:41,640 –> 00:44:45,120
It might have been, yeah.
And this family, like the

846
00:44:45,120 –> 00:44:48,680
government, just took their land
because they were like black

847
00:44:48,680 –> 00:44:50,160
people living there.
No thank you.

848
00:44:50,360 –> 00:44:55,200
And like, the city just took it
and kept it until, like, last

849
00:44:55,200 –> 00:44:57,720
year.
Like they finally gave it back

850
00:44:57,720 –> 00:44:59,360
to the family.
And that’s cool.

851
00:44:59,360 –> 00:45:02,040
Like the family.
The family is like leasing it

852
00:45:02,040 –> 00:45:04,400
back to the city, which that’s
great.

853
00:45:04,440 –> 00:45:07,680
I love that they are generating
revenue from it.

854
00:45:07,840 –> 00:45:10,040
But it also would have been
really funny if they were like,

855
00:45:10,040 –> 00:45:13,840
we’re putting a house there.
They’re all your shit down

856
00:45:14,040 –> 00:45:17,280
because it’s like a park now.
It would have been funny as shit

857
00:45:17,280 –> 00:45:18,640
if they were like, yeah, it’s a
park now.

858
00:45:18,640 –> 00:45:20,080
It’s a private park.
Fuck you.

859
00:45:20,520 –> 00:45:23,480
And to just get that back,
that’s like a one in 10,000

860
00:45:23,480 –> 00:45:24,920
chance.
Think of how many stories like

861
00:45:24,920 –> 00:45:26,880
that that just straight up don’t
happen.

862
00:45:27,400 –> 00:45:31,080
Like it’s it’s it’s the Donald
Glover zone.

863
00:45:31,080 –> 00:45:33,160
This is America.
It’s like stuff like this has

864
00:45:33,160 –> 00:45:37,040
been happening so long and
people that consider themselves

865
00:45:37,040 –> 00:45:40,600
liberals and progressives and
stuff, and either half of these

866
00:45:40,600 –> 00:45:44,200
stories they don’t know or they
like, that’s just a conspiracy.

867
00:45:44,200 –> 00:45:46,640
Like, no, there are literally
books about this stuff.

868
00:45:46,640 –> 00:45:49,800
What are you talking about?
Yeah, yeah, like the CIA crack

869
00:45:49,800 –> 00:45:54,160
thing I think is a big one.
Like, I I know so many people on

870
00:45:54,160 –> 00:45:58,280
the left who still are like, OK,
well that’s crazy and it’s like,

871
00:45:58,280 –> 00:46:03,280
no, it’s not like it’s the
there’s a fucking FX multi

872
00:46:03,280 –> 00:46:10,040
season FXTV series about the CIA
selling crack in the United

873
00:46:10,040 –> 00:46:12,320
States.
Like and and not just crack.

874
00:46:12,320 –> 00:46:15,360
I forget what president was.
I want to say maybe Hoover like

875
00:46:15,360 –> 00:46:19,080
it’s he’s on record saying we
knew we couldn’t make it illegal

876
00:46:19,080 –> 00:46:22,400
to be black or be a hippie.
So what we did is criminalize

877
00:46:22,400 –> 00:46:25,360
marijuana and we could lock up
the people that smoked it.

878
00:46:25,360 –> 00:46:26,960
I forget what president that
was.

879
00:46:27,120 –> 00:46:30,520
Yeah, I don’t remember, but I’ve
also heard that quote.

880
00:46:30,760 –> 00:46:34,680
And yeah, like, people don’t
take that into account enough.

881
00:46:34,680 –> 00:46:37,760
I keep going back to Operation
Paper Clip throughout my life,

882
00:46:37,760 –> 00:46:40,440
’cause I do think it’s a
startling fucking moment in

883
00:46:40,440 –> 00:46:43,400
American history where we were
like, hey, let’s all band

884
00:46:43,400 –> 00:46:46,480
together and fight the Nazis,
but then also let’s nuke Japan

885
00:46:46,680 –> 00:46:50,040
and bring the Nazis over here to
help us run our government.

886
00:46:50,360 –> 00:46:55,880
Like after slavery America,
clearly a very racist

887
00:46:55,880 –> 00:46:59,360
government, like a government
built on racism, now has this

888
00:46:59,360 –> 00:47:03,360
entire population that they just
have to deal with, they have to

889
00:47:03,360 –> 00:47:05,520
put up with.
And every day people are

890
00:47:05,520 –> 00:47:07,960
fighting to give that population
more laws.

891
00:47:08,160 –> 00:47:11,360
And along come the Nazis, who
are like, look, we might have

892
00:47:11,360 –> 00:47:15,000
been a little heavy-handed with
the Jews in Germany, but you

893
00:47:15,000 –> 00:47:18,360
have a population you would like
to wipe out over a course of

894
00:47:18,520 –> 00:47:21,360
years.
Let’s just team up and fucking

895
00:47:21,560 –> 00:47:25,840
do it together and try to deny
that post World War 2.

896
00:47:25,840 –> 00:47:28,720
Like things in that way have
gotten really aggressive.

897
00:47:28,720 –> 00:47:32,320
Like our prison population is
out of fucking control.

898
00:47:32,440 –> 00:47:36,400
And, like, it all feels like
Nazi shit.

899
00:47:36,480 –> 00:47:39,400
Like I I think maybe we’re the
Nazis now.

900
00:47:39,720 –> 00:47:43,040
Yeah, and not only that over, it
took him a couple decades, but

901
00:47:43,040 –> 00:47:46,880
what America got really good at
is they it’s like the Nazis came

902
00:47:46,880 –> 00:47:49,240
and they like, all right, you
guys got the racism down, but

903
00:47:49,240 –> 00:47:50,680
you got to be more subtle about
it.

904
00:47:51,080 –> 00:47:54,600
So, you know, yeah, we can get
rid of Jim Crow laws, but, you

905
00:47:54,600 –> 00:47:57,560
know we still got to make laws
that OK, just look at their

906
00:47:57,560 –> 00:47:59,000
hair.
So look at that name.

907
00:47:59,000 –> 00:48:01,160
See what we did.
We knew how to spot a Jew name.

908
00:48:01,600 –> 00:48:04,040
So now this is how you spot a
black name when they turn in the

909
00:48:04,040 –> 00:48:05,960
resume.
You know, with stuff like that,

910
00:48:05,960 –> 00:48:08,520
the little stuff like when you
compare it to, it’s it’s

911
00:48:08,640 –> 00:48:12,120
straight up Nazi shit.
Like, how do you, how else do

912
00:48:12,120 –> 00:48:15,160
you, you know, distinguish
someone that you’ve never seen?

913
00:48:15,320 –> 00:48:18,120
You can look at a last name, OK,
that’s traditionally Jewish.

914
00:48:18,120 –> 00:48:20,280
Look at this first name that’s
traditionally black.

915
00:48:20,600 –> 00:48:23,800
Or look at the hair.
Or, you know, like it’s been

916
00:48:23,800 –> 00:48:27,440
proven that even if if you’re
black and you have dark skin,

917
00:48:27,440 –> 00:48:30,760
darker brown skin, you’re more
likely to get more time than a

918
00:48:30,760 –> 00:48:32,640
black person with lighter skin
in prison.

919
00:48:32,960 –> 00:48:34,440
Like just a little stuff like
that.

920
00:48:34,440 –> 00:48:37,080
You can’t say that’s not
intentional, Or if it’s not

921
00:48:37,080 –> 00:48:40,480
intentional, it’s just so
ingrained in America that we

922
00:48:40,480 –> 00:48:43,360
would literally just have to,
like, start over for over from

923
00:48:43,360 –> 00:48:46,800
scratch just to make things.
I don’t even know what we would

924
00:48:46,800 –> 00:48:49,760
have to do.
And I think that’s why stuff

925
00:48:49,760 –> 00:48:54,720
like AI and algorithms are never
going to fix the criminal

926
00:48:54,720 –> 00:48:59,160
justice system.
Because AI learns from examples,

927
00:48:59,320 –> 00:49:02,600
it learns from what information
it has available.

928
00:49:02,680 –> 00:49:06,160
And the only information
available to AI systems right

929
00:49:06,160 –> 00:49:10,160
now is, well, we incarcerate
black people at a much higher

930
00:49:10,160 –> 00:49:14,360
rate than white people.
Like, how do you unteach the AI

931
00:49:14,400 –> 00:49:18,680
that when it’s taking in all of
this data, Yeah, like you got to

932
00:49:18,680 –> 00:49:22,600
fix what’s broken at the core
before you can trust the

933
00:49:22,600 –> 00:49:25,280
computer to, like, fix it, I
think.

934
00:49:25,480 –> 00:49:29,040
Yeah, and The thing is, that’s
where the money comes from.

935
00:49:29,040 –> 00:49:31,720
And just to go back to those
small countries they have an

936
00:49:31,720 –> 00:49:35,760
invested interest to, hey, our
economy is a lot better when it

937
00:49:35,760 –> 00:49:38,880
there isn’t any homelessness.
I forgot what country it is.

938
00:49:38,880 –> 00:49:41,640
But like, it’s one of them small
countries, but they have like

939
00:49:41,760 –> 00:49:46,360
one that all they have is like
one homeless shelter because

940
00:49:46,360 –> 00:49:48,960
they were like, well, it’s
easier for taxes for us to just

941
00:49:48,960 –> 00:49:52,120
house homeless people.
Yeah, And you know, then we

942
00:49:52,120 –> 00:49:54,760
don’t have to worry about all
this stuff that trickles down.

943
00:49:54,920 –> 00:49:57,560
But America was like, no, we
just going to criminalize that

944
00:49:57,560 –> 00:49:59,440
shit.
Yeah, that’s what’s that’s

945
00:49:59,440 –> 00:50:02,000
what’s so frustrating about
homelessness even in LA.

946
00:50:02,000 –> 00:50:06,680
Like the population of homeless
people is so comparatively

947
00:50:06,680 –> 00:50:09,000
small.
When you take the population of

948
00:50:09,040 –> 00:50:14,080
LA in general into account like
pre COVID, it was only like 2530

949
00:50:14,080 –> 00:50:17,600
thousand and it like it’s it
almost doubled I think under

950
00:50:17,600 –> 00:50:20,640
COVID.
But still, that’s not that many

951
00:50:20,640 –> 00:50:25,480
people like we should be able
still to figure that shit out.

952
00:50:25,600 –> 00:50:30,480
And I think like we did an
episode not too long ago, we

953
00:50:30,480 –> 00:50:32,280
should do a full episode about
it.

954
00:50:32,400 –> 00:50:36,320
It just came up as a story in an
episode where we talked about a

955
00:50:36,320 –> 00:50:39,280
bunch of news.
But there is a suggestion that

956
00:50:39,440 –> 00:50:45,200
in LA there exists a homeless
industrial complex where, yeah,

957
00:50:45,200 –> 00:50:49,280
there’s people working to end
homelessness, but it’s because

958
00:50:49,480 –> 00:50:50,880
that’s how they make their
money.

959
00:50:51,040 –> 00:50:54,160
And so if they end homelessness,
they’re not going to make that

960
00:50:54,160 –> 00:50:57,400
money anymore.
So really there’s organizations

961
00:50:57,400 –> 00:51:01,480
out there that are taking in the
money to address homelessness

962
00:51:01,480 –> 00:51:06,240
and then like intentionally
keeping it going, like on the

963
00:51:06,240 –> 00:51:10,320
low and like that’s absolute.
Like, that’s a that’s a case

964
00:51:10,320 –> 00:51:13,800
where like the government
doesn’t even need to act like

965
00:51:13,800 –> 00:51:17,800
you just hire the wrong people
for a city job and the rest will

966
00:51:17,800 –> 00:51:20,440
take care of itself.
And that’s what you see.

967
00:51:20,440 –> 00:51:24,800
Like one of the people in charge
of addressing homelessness in LA

968
00:51:24,800 –> 00:51:29,160
used to work for a group that
makes money off of homelessness

969
00:51:29,200 –> 00:51:33,840
in LA, and she’s like fired off
contracts after contracts to

970
00:51:33,840 –> 00:51:36,200
that group.
And it’s just this ugly cycle

971
00:51:36,200 –> 00:51:39,600
where once people start making
money at the expense of another

972
00:51:39,600 –> 00:51:44,640
group, people just fucking jump
in and join in and it turns into

973
00:51:44,640 –> 00:51:49,320
like generations of racism and
abuse and shit like this.

974
00:51:49,520 –> 00:51:51,760
Yeah, again, the books I
mentioned, I’ll definitely say

975
00:51:51,760 –> 00:51:55,280
check out if you are the audio
versions, they own one of those

976
00:51:55,280 –> 00:51:57,720
free audio apps.
If you got a library card but

977
00:51:57,720 –> 00:52:02,280
Dying of Whiteness and White
Flight, both books that go way

978
00:52:02,280 –> 00:52:04,720
more into detail.
And also I’m constantly covering

979
00:52:05,040 –> 00:52:06,800
things like this on my YouTube
channel.

980
00:52:07,160 –> 00:52:10,160
But yeah, like I said, I mean it
is a conspiracy, but it’s like

981
00:52:10,360 –> 00:52:13,640
it’s another two America saying
it’s a conspiracy to one side of

982
00:52:13,640 –> 00:52:16,560
America and the other side is
like, yeah, we’ve been hearing

983
00:52:16,560 –> 00:52:20,760
all of this and it takes news,
it takes a news report for y’all

984
00:52:20,760 –> 00:52:22,480
to believe us.
Yeah, yeah.

985
00:52:22,480 –> 00:52:25,040
Institutional racism is very
fucking real.

986
00:52:25,280 –> 00:52:29,720
Like I People need to fucking
grasp that on all sides.

987
00:52:29,920 –> 00:52:32,000
But do we have any final
thoughts?

988
00:52:32,280 –> 00:52:37,680
You You plugged the books?
No, I figured this is it’s I was

989
00:52:37,680 –> 00:52:39,000
thinking, what’s the most
realistic?

990
00:52:39,000 –> 00:52:40,880
I think I’ve heard of most of
these episodes.

991
00:52:40,880 –> 00:52:44,120
It’s either this one or the John
Lennon was replaced by a clone

992
00:52:44,120 –> 00:52:46,240
or some shit like that theory.
What?

993
00:52:47,080 –> 00:52:50,600
The the 1 old girl her Her
theory is that John Lennon died

994
00:52:50,960 –> 00:52:51,600
Kim.
Where’s that?

995
00:52:51,600 –> 00:52:53,240
Paul McCartney Kim.
Crawl.

996
00:52:53,240 –> 00:52:55,240
Yeah.
The Paul McCartney theory.

997
00:52:55,440 –> 00:52:57,760
That’s a very famous theory.
It’s nonsense.

998
00:52:57,760 –> 00:52:58,720
But.
It’s not.

999
00:52:58,720 –> 00:53:03,080
I was laughing so hard on that
one because she was so surprised

1000
00:53:03,080 –> 00:53:05,440
that you knew, like, the basic
facts of it.

1001
00:53:07,840 –> 00:53:10,040
I literally had tears about
eyes.

1002
00:53:10,040 –> 00:53:14,200
She’s like, oh, I just suspected
you to believe me like that is

1003
00:53:14,200 –> 00:53:17,440
that you’re a Do you know how
impossible it is to impersonate

1004
00:53:17,440 –> 00:53:19,200
a person?
That would it would be really

1005
00:53:19,200 –> 00:53:22,400
hard to replace Paul McCartney
in that way.

1006
00:53:22,400 –> 00:53:24,440
Yeah, it would be very
difficult.

1007
00:53:25,280 –> 00:53:28,080
But yeah, I guess so.
It’s either this one or that one

1008
00:53:28,080 –> 00:53:30,800
for which are the more likely.
I think mines might be a little

1009
00:53:30,800 –> 00:53:34,960
bit more believable as far on as
far as the conspiracy spectrum.

1010
00:53:35,320 –> 00:53:39,400
Potentially, I think so.
But yeah, outside of that, just

1011
00:53:39,400 –> 00:53:41,840
check out my YouTube channel and
if you all like it, I got a

1012
00:53:41,840 –> 00:53:43,760
Patreon if you want early
access.

1013
00:53:43,880 –> 00:53:46,840
That’s pretty much all I plug is
my YouTube channel hoping to

1014
00:53:46,840 –> 00:53:49,560
hit.
I have, by the time y’all hear

1015
00:53:49,560 –> 00:53:53,400
this year probably be over past
$15 and so I’m hoping to hit 50

1016
00:53:53,400 –> 00:53:55,160
by the end of next year.
Nice.

1017
00:53:55,760 –> 00:53:58,360
What is the What’s your YouTube
handle?

1018
00:53:58,960 –> 00:54:01,640
The same thing is here.
John Lewis just made it easy to

1019
00:54:01,640 –> 00:54:03,240
search.
If you searched it to come up

1020
00:54:03,600 –> 00:54:07,680
and John, JW and Lewis like
Louis Vuitton because and I

1021
00:54:07,680 –> 00:54:10,480
guess kind of tie it back in
here, the real John Lewis is

1022
00:54:10,480 –> 00:54:13,280
like one of the most famous
civil rights activists of all

1023
00:54:13,280 –> 00:54:16,040
time.
You search him, my name never

1024
00:54:16,040 –> 00:54:20,240
would have come up.
So I don’t think I have anything

1025
00:54:20,240 –> 00:54:22,320
to plug Adam Top
brown.substack.com.

1026
00:54:22,440 –> 00:54:26,280
Go read my writings.
I’ll have more articles up by

1027
00:54:26,280 –> 00:54:27,760
then.
This comes out first week.

1028
00:54:27,800 –> 00:54:29,880
This our first episode of the
new year.

1029
00:54:31,040 –> 00:54:32,520
And I guess white people
listening.

1030
00:54:32,520 –> 00:54:36,000
If you want to do a good favor,
maybe be a stand in for a black

1031
00:54:36,000 –> 00:54:38,680
home appraisal.
You can’re about a black family

1032
00:54:39,000 –> 00:54:40,480
getting some generation of
wealth.

1033
00:54:40,880 –> 00:54:43,680
Clearly that works.
Yeah, let’s get that Uber app

1034
00:54:43,680 –> 00:54:45,920
going.
Black family needs a home

1035
00:54:45,920 –> 00:54:47,760
appraisal.
Just fucking pull up the app.

1036
00:54:48,120 –> 00:54:51,360
White family shows up to sit in
the living room and watch

1037
00:54:51,360 –> 00:54:53,800
friends.
Oh man, that would be hilarious.

1038
00:54:53,800 –> 00:54:56,400
I could see somebody doing the
whole skit about that like that.

1039
00:54:56,400 –> 00:54:58,880
That’d be hilarious if somebody
actually started that.

1040
00:54:58,880 –> 00:55:00,960
Just white.
I don’t know.

1041
00:55:00,960 –> 00:55:02,720
We got to think of a catchy name
for it.

1042
00:55:03,000 –> 00:55:04,400
White flight or something like
that.

1043
00:55:04,400 –> 00:55:07,760
Get your white people to sit in
for your black family after the

1044
00:55:07,760 –> 00:55:09,360
approach.
White Flight would be the right

1045
00:55:09,360 –> 00:55:10,400
name for it.
I like that.

1046
00:55:12,080 –> 00:55:13,880
All right.
Well, John, thank you so much.

1047
00:55:13,920 –> 00:55:17,160
I appreciate it.
Let’s get out of here.

1048
00:55:17,160 –> 00:55:19,920
Say goodbye to the people.
See you all next time.

1049
00:55:19,920 –> 00:55:21,320
We’ll hear you all next time, I
guess.

1050
00:55:22,080 –> 00:55:29,360
Goodbye everybody.
We love you people of Earth.

1051
00:55:30,200 –> 00:55:31,960
Your planet is has to be
destroyed.