Conspiracy! The Show 272: The Jeffrey Epstein Files Pt. 1

January 9, 2024

Adam and Olivia delve into that recently released batch of court files related to notorious sex criminal Jeffrey Epstein.

The Files: https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/6250471-Epstein-Docs

The List of Names: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/jeffrey-epstein-maxwell-prince-andrew-b2473096.html

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Welcome to Conspiracy the Show,
the world’s most trusted

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conspiracy theory podcast with
your hosts, Adam Todd Brown and

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Olivia Hydar.
Hey, everybody.

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Welcome to Conspiracy the show.
I’m Adam.

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Todd Brown.
How are you?

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I’m Olivia.
Hydar.

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That, I believe, makes us your
hosts, Olivia.

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How’s it going?
You know it’s going OK.

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It’s cold now in LA finally,
which means it’s like 50°.

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Love it.
I’m a big fan except for being,

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you know, my my toes.
He’s getting getting cold, but

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other than that I like it.
Yeah, I have that thing where my

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toes get a little numb when it
gets cool.

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Yeah, but yeah, it’s also jacket
season.

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I got a couple really bitching
Chicago Bears starter jackets

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that I get to wear.
Hell yeah around this time of

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year.
Love it.

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But no matter how cold you are,
the good news is you can always

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wrap yourself in the warmth of
this new Jeffrey Epstein

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document drop.
Hottest government Document Drop

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of the year so far.
I know the year is young, yes,

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but still my favorite.
I mean, it’s going to be tough

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to top, honestly.
I I believe so.

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I believe so, Yeah.
When these first started coming

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out, there were 352 pages and I
was like, oh hell yeah, I’ll

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read those all this weekend and
we’ll comprehensively cover

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this.
And by Sunday, that had risen to

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2024 pages of documents which we
did not get through them all.

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But here’s the thing, people,
Solely because I love you so

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much, I read about 7 to 800
pages of Jeffrey Epstein

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documents yesterday while
watching football.

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So many.
It’s a lot.

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This was my Sunday reading
Jeffrey Epstein documents.

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That thing where I was like, oh,
I’m going to read all 350 of

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these and then they like drop
1000 more on Sunday.

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Reminded me a lot of when I was
a kid and I had collected every

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GI Joe action figure and I shit,
you’re not like 3 days later I

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get a flyer in the mail from
Hasbro that’s like here’s 25 new

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GI Joes.
And I was like, fuck this dad,

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let’s sell.
And we did.

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We sold my GI Joe collection.
This is kind of exactly like

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that.
Yeah, it is.

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It’s basically the same thing.
Except with lots of sexual

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abuse.
Right in a lot fewer action

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features.
Yeah, less fighting.

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Kung Fu grip.
There were lasers in GI Joe,

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right?
Sure.

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Sure, right.
Every Every Kids show had

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blasters they because they
weren’t allowed to have like

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bullets.
Yeah, yeah.

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So this document drop comes
courtesy of the US Second

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Circuit Court of Appeals.
The first part of the documents

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is just their argument for why
they want these documents

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released.
It it kicks off with a rundown

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of some important dates in the
Epstein story which we should

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take people through, not
everyone, every Jeffrey Epstein

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scholars that we are.
So yes.

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Although I do recommend people
go back and listen to our

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episode immediately after the
Jeffrey Epstein quote.

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UN quote Suicide, which is one
of our most excited episodes, I

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think.
Yeah, I think we called it the

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Jeffrey Epstein One Week
Anniversary Spectacular.

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Yeah.
That’s a very fun episode, and I

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don’t think it’s our only
Jeffrey Epstein episode.

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Oh, absolutely not.
But I just remember our excited

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texts about, like, we got the
record.

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We have to talk about it.
Yeah, Jeffrey Epstein.

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He’s an emergency.
Whenever.

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Whenever Epstein News comes out,
you got to talk about it.

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It’s true.
And I know people were hoping

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like this was going to be it,
like this is going to be right,

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the dump that really implicates
people.

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But one thing they bring up in
these court documents that I

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think should act to kind of
temper people’s hopes a little

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bit in terms of what’s going to
come out in files like these.

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These files pertain to a very
specific legal thing, which is

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Virginia Geoffrey’s defamation
lawsuit against Julain Maxwell.

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Right?
Julain Maxwell basically said

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Virginia Geoffrey was lying
about all of her allegations.

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Geoffrey filed a defamation suit
and a lot of the documents come

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from that suit.
And what you have to take into

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account, and they bring this up
in regards to Alan Dershowitz in

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these documents is Virginia
Geoffrey.

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Also, Virginia Roberts is
another name she goes by.

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She’s the Epstein victim who
accused Alan Dershowitz when she

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was making her allegations.
And when she filed her lawsuit

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and included Dershowitz in it,
he immediately filed another

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lawsuit and was like whoa, whoa
whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

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She is suing over defamation.
She’s suing Jolene Maxwell over

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defamation.
My name shouldn’t even be in

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that shit.
And his, his law.

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The suit got thrown out, but not
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because a judge was already
like, yeah, you you can’t just

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put any name you want in here
like this has to pertain to your

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thing.
So if you’re expecting that

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there’s going to be a lot of big
names being, like, explicitly

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outed as pedophiles in these
documents, there’s a reason that

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hasn’t made the news yet,
because it’s not in.

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There.
Well, yeah.

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And like we said in that in the
post death episode, his death

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was the end of any chance of any
famous or important person being

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prosecuted as a result of this.
Like that.

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That’s just not going to happen
and people need to understand

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that, like that.
There’s prop.

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Well, I don’t want to say 100%
positive, but more than likely

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we’re not going to get a big
arrest of like, say, Alan

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Derschwitz or whatever out of
this.

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Yeah, I think what we really
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what was in his safe because
sure, it is alleged that there

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were like videos in his safe.
That right.

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I mean, I don’t want to see him.
No, no, like, because that would

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be a crime.
But I do want to like know who’s

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on them and what they’re doing,
obviously, but these documents?

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Absolutely.
Again, they could kick off with

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some important dates, June 30th,
2008.

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That is when Jeffrey Epstein
agreed to that now very

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notorious plea deal where he
pleaded guilty to, quote,

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procuring a person under the age
of 18 for prostitution, which is

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a very, very, very kind and
light handed way to say he paid

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to rape a child.
Yes, basically.

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And as part of that plea deal,
he received very limited jail

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time and like he was sentenced
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But again, they were like, if
you go look into the original

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story, there were cops in that
case who were like, this

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motherfucker’s just walking
around downtown Miami like

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nothing.
Yeah, like, happened.

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Exactly.
He he basically just was like

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slapped on the wrist and maybe
monitored or whatever.

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And I think if you’re looking
for evidence or hints or clues

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that Jeffrey Epstein might have
had some connection to the

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government, I think you can stop
there.

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Yeah, yes.
Like the deal he got for raping

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kids For being a straight up
pedophile.

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Like he pleaded guilty to
procuring a person under the age

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of 18 for prostitution.
But if you look into the actual

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details of that, he was just
serially raping and abusing kids

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and he gets to slap on the wrist
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And on top of that, all of his
associates get immunity just

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across the board.
And it seems like the government

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just kind of hoped no one would
ever find out about that, right?

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And people knew about like this
was, this was a widely known

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thing, but there wasn’t the
widespread, like, outcry for

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release the names of his like,
accomplices and stuff at that

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time in 2008.
And there’s a reason for that,

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and we’ll get to it in one
second.

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But first, what happened after
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Two of his victims came forward,
like as anonymously we don’t

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know their names.
But two victims came forward and

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they filed A lawsuit to nullify
that plea deal based on the

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grounds that the government
didn’t inform them of this plea

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deal and how it would impact
them, which the government has

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to do.
It’s the law.

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In a case like this, the
government has to consult with

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the victims of a federal sex
crime before they just

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essentially pardoned the person
who did it.

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So they filed that lawsuit.
It carried on for years and

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years and years.
And then December 30th, 2014,

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That’s when two more victims
come forward, one of them being

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Virginia Jeffrey, and they want
to join that lawsuit to nullify

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that plea deal.
And this is the point where

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Jeffrey Epstein starts getting
connected to, like, really

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famous names as a pedophile.
Like, this is the point where it

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becomes, oh, it’s not just that
all these famous people knew

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Jeffrey Epstein, and Jeffrey
Epstein turned out to be a

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pedophile.
No, no, no, no.

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It’s that they were zigzagging
around the world on Epstein

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plane, all sex trafficking kids,
basically.

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Yeah.
So yeah, up to that point it was

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just, hey, Jeffrey Epstein’s a
pedophile and he got off really

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easy.
So when Virginia Geoffrey comes

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forward, one of her claims is
that she was trafficked to

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numerous prominent American
politicians, powerful business

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executives, foreign presidents,
a well known Prime Minister and

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other world leaders, along with
Alan Dershowitz and Jelain

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Maxwell.
I do wonder why she only names

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Alan Dershowitz.
Come on.

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It is.
I mean, it’s just it’s

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interesting that his name has
been there since there were

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names.
Attached.

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That’s true.
That’s true.

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I mean, and like, it’s not like
he is the most famous man in

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America, you know, it’s it’s
just an interesting name to pick

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unless you have a specific
reason to pick that name.

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Yeah, and listen, Alan
Dershowitz is a lawyer.

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He could sue us.
We’re not saying the specific

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reasons because.
He let’s say girl, it can be.

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You know someone’s targeting
Alan Dershowitz.

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Who knows?
Right, exactly.

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He’s got enemies.
His name is the one that keeps

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coming up.
Comes up often.

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And so the thing about Alan
Dershowitz, again, like I

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mentioned, he made he filed this
lawsuit after she filed her

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lawsuit and was like, hey, you
take my fucking name out of

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that.
And they mostly did.

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But by that point it had made it
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So sorry, Alan Dershowitz.
Sorry buddy.

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I guess.
I guess you shouldn’t defend

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Jeffrey Epstein in court next
time.

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I would.
I would not, personally.

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Yeah, yeah.
So another important date.

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January 3rd, 2015, Jolene
Maxwell, via her publicist,

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issues a press statement saying
Virginia Jeffrey’s allegations

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are untrue and that her claims
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And then September 21st, 2015,
Geoffrey files a defamation

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claim against Maxwell in
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And that is what the first
hundreds and hundreds and

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hundreds of pages of these
documents are about.

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Is that lawsuit, that statement
by Jolene Maxwell, and whether

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the information in that suit
should be made public, right?

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Because in all the legal back
and forth between those two and

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Alan Dershowitz, all like Spider
Man pointing at each other and

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suing each other and shit.
It ended with a settlement.

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But also they let the involved
parties decide what file should

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be sealed.
And by the end, everyone, like

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everything, was sealed,
essentially.

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And so since then, three
different parties have tried to

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keep those records unsealed.
Journalist Mike Cernovich.

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OK, he’s putting quotes over
journalist.

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You guys, you have to hear that.
Heavy Air quotes over journalist

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Mike Cernovich, actual
journalist at the Miami Herald

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which if you’ve never read it,
one of the better news outlets

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in the country.
They do really good work.

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And Alan Dershowitz, who claimed
that these records would prove

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that Geoffrey invented the
allegations against him, That

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was the word he used.
And if you are out there

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thinking, well, all right, well,
why would it take this long for

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anyone to mention that famous
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One, the first victims who came
forward might not have been

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trafficked to famous people.
Maybe that was a whole different

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operation.
And two, if you’re those first

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victims, do you really want to
come out and be like, hey, the

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fucking Sultan of Brunei raped
me and it’s like, yeah, then

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he’s going to kill you.
Like, exactly.

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That is a thing that comes up in
these court records, is that you

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have to take that into account
when you’re deciding whose names

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to release.
Like, are you going to get that

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girl killed?
Because just putting their name

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in this court document isn’t
going to get that person

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arrested.
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And and then you, you know, from
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that Jeffrey Epstein died, you
know, as a result of a lot of

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this.
And so, you know, it kind of

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makes sense that they wouldn’t
want their names involved and

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they wouldn’t want to be talking
about famous people.

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Yeah, Olivia.
He died from the deep depression

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he fell into after being caught.
Yeah, the jail did a whoopsie

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and left him alone with this
Hank of rope.

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And he’s a gun in his cell.
Don’t.

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Touch that.
How’s that getting there?

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Don’t you touch that.
And so there’s that concern in

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unsealing these court records
and also another that this

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appeals court just puts in their
ruling.

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Not every name that comes up
here is automatically a

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pedophile.
Right.

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But people?
They’re only a pedophile when we

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decide whether they are.
Correct, correct.

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Which we will.
We will by the end of this, we

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are going to cast judgment on a
lot of famous names to decide if

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they were pedophiles or not.
But a good example is Chris

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Tucker.
I feel so bad for Chris Tucker.

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He did this one charity thing
that involved them doing like

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some kind of like performance or
appearance in one country and

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then like going to another
country and doing another

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appearance like all in the same
day.

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And they were on Jeffrey
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that trip from 1 country to the
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And there’s like cameras
filming.

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There’s no young girls.
It’s just the people involved in

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the charity thing.
But still now Chris Tucker has

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to be like, come on man.
One time I was on his plane and

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I didn’t even know the guy, but
forever, Chris Tucker’s name is

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going to be in Jeffrey
Epstein’s.

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Files.
Yeah.

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And like he’s he’s doing OK.
He was in air last year and so

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you know, and he’s great in air
and so you know he’s doing OK.

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There’s a very funny line from
these documents.

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This is a quote.
We also caution the public to

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crucially assess allegations
contained in judicial pleadings.

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Lol.
That’s not going to happen.

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That’s not going to happen at
all, unless it’s an allegation

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against someone you like, right?
Exactly.

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So they add another quote in
regards to the veracity of the

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claims made here.
In fact, allegations appearing

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in such documents might be less
credible than those published

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elsewhere.
And they’re thinking there is.

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Yeah, these people are
underoath, but hey, people lie

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underoath all the time, and they
lie underoath to further an

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agenda, to achieve a goal, all
sorts of reasons, because they

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want to discredit someone.
Like some people just have the

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money to fuck around with the
court system like that.

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Like there are people who will
just sue you because they know

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it will financially break you
and it.

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Yeah, but I will, like I will
say the the flaw in their

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reasoning in this case is that
the people who have the money to

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fuck with the court system are
the people being named in the

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documents, not the people making
the accusations.

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In this case, yeah.
So Virginia Giafrey, She claimed

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that Jelaine Maxwell assisted in
trafficking her, and that the

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Prince Andrew incident took
place in Jelaine Maxwell’s

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apartment.
And a lot of the early pages of

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these documents that the court
did finally decide to release is

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kind of just the defense of
Jelaine Maxwell.

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So if you’re expecting to go in
and just get name after name a

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famous person who was raping
kids, it’s not going to happen.

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You’re going to get a lot of all
right, well, if she’s telling

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the truth, then how come this
And how come this, how come

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this?
And they bring up things like

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during the time Virginia Giafri
claimed to be a sex slave, she

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also was in contact with police
twice.

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She once someone stole $500 from
her apartment and another time

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when her landlord threw all her
belongings out and lit her

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mattress on fire, which got and
they point out, well, at no

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point during those contacts with
police did she ever say, hey,

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I’m a sex slave.
But those things do correspond

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with the dates where she claimed
she was essentially enslaved

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because her her story is that
she like, escaped when she was

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in a foreign country.
Like she was like being held

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hostage.
So, right, all of these pages

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early on are just Julian Maxwell
being like she had a car.

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Like she just drove around West
Palm Beach freely.

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Sure.
But I will say that there are

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ways of being controlled in a
manner that we would call a sex

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slave that don’t necessarily
limit your freedom of movement

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in that way.
Sure.

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And I’m not bringing all this up
to say, hey, maybe Jelaine

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Maxwell has a point.
Just tell you what’s in the

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documents people like, buckle
up, That’s what you’re going to

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read, is hundreds and hundreds
of pages of lawyers being like,

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well, if you’re telling the
truth, how come you had a

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boyfriend?
And then there’s, like,

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interviews with the boyfriend.
Did we know she worked at Mar a

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Lago?
I feel like I had not heard

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that.
I feel like somehow that detail

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completely escaped me, but
Virginia Geoffrey, her dad

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worked at Mar A Lago and he got
her a job as a masseuse at Mar a

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Lago, and that’s where she met
Jolene Maxwell.

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While working at Mar A Lago and
somehow these fucking numbskulls

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still are like once Trump’s in
office, we’re going to get all

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them pedophiles kind of grip.
Yeah, I love.

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I do like that detail.
When we go through the list of

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names, that’s the other thing
that is suspicious as fuck.

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To me.
There’s like, no Republicans.

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It’s like, get the fuck out of
here.

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No Republicans.
Come on.

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So yeah, the 1st 100 or so pages
is just that.

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Up next there’s a list of
evidence entered into the record

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on Maxwell’s behalf.
And then all of that evidence.

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Some of it is just Daily Mail
articles, which that’s where

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Virginia Geoffrey’s claims come
from.

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She’s also the girl who accused
Prince Andrew of being a

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pedophile.
There’s that famous photo that

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some people say is fake.
Some people say it’s been proven

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real.
I personally don’t care if the

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entire British royal family goes
down for pedophilia.

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I mean Prince Andrew, he was
such a spry and handsome man.

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I can’t imagine he would need to
resort to these things.

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I know, crazy, right?
He was so alive when he was

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alive.
We should mention though, people

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have been making a big deal
about Stephen Hawking ending up

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on this nest.
And in her allegations, Virginia

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Jeffrey did also say a world
renowned scientist.

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She was trafficked too.
And it’s like, who am I to

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assume Stephen Hawking couldn’t
have sex?

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Yeah, I mean it would be ableist
to say that he can’t do this

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exactly.
It does seem unlikely, but it.

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Seems weird.
Yeah.

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Yeah.
I mean, yeah, I don’t know.

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I don’t want to speculate on
Stephen Hawking having sex at

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all yet.
Yeah, yeah, right.

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We’ll get there.
We will be speculating.

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And I know if it was a child, I
shouldn’t say having sex.

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That’s a very different thing.
Right.

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Yeah.
Well, what You know, look, we’re

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going to be, we’re going to be
using imperfect terms.

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It’s OK.
Flying by the seat of our pants

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here, this just came out.
You know, Olivia have only been

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living with these documents for
a few days, and I think that’s

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the right term for it, yes.
I have been living with.

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I printed them out and I’ve been
sleeping with them.

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Yeah, I have them all hung up on
the wall. 2000 pages.

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So it’s like my entire house.
But so there are some

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interesting things in the
different evidence exhibits.

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There’s Virginia Geoffrey’s
records from when she filed to

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join the lawsuit that was
seeking to overturn Epstein’s

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initial plea deal.
This is where a lot of the more

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salacious Alan Dershowitz stuff
comes from.

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She doesn’t like, tell us what
his Dick looks like, but she

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does specify different places
and locations where she was

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forced to have sex with him.
And it’s also claimed in these

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this part of the records that
Jelaine Maxwell not only took

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pictures of naked underage
girls, but also distributed them

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like she was a distributor of
child porn and that the

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government knew about it and was
in possession of some of the

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pictures.
That’s one of Virginia Jeffries

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claims, which I don’t know.
Yeah, who?

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Knows.
We we don’t know, probably.

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I mean, she’s a she seems like a
pretty nasty person.

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So I wouldn’t necessarily put
the pastor.

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No, no.
This is also where the first

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claims about Prince Andrew come
from.

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French model scout Jean Luc
Brunel is also accused in this

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filing.
He’s accused of like kind of

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running a sex trafficking
operation of his own, which I

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don’t know where a French model
scout would get access to enough

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young girls I.
Was going to say I just have

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never heard of a French model
scout being creepy.

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I know it’s.
Just is so, so unusual that

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industry in?
General is usually just on the

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up and up.
Right, usually so above board.

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And yeah, this is, this is the
part where I have the Mar a Lago

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question in the notes.
I feel like that would have been

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a bigger deal.
Like, I mean, it has to have

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been public knowledge by now,
but I just don’t remember

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hearing.
Oh yeah, also like one of the

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main accusers worked at Trump’s
resort.

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Like Trump’s home.
The man lives at Mar A Lago.

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He does.
That was the White House when he

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was in office.
It was basically yes.

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Very strange.
I know.

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I had not heard it.
Yeah, I I’m actually surprised

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it’s not a bigger deal.
It’s probably unimportant.

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I mean, I’m sure it doesn’t
relate at all.

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Like, who cares?
Yeah, exactly.

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Yeah.
The there’s no there’s no core

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Correlation does not equal
causation.

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And.
That applies, right?

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Yeah, Mar a Lago actually brings
up an interesting point when it

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comes to documents like these.
If you do want to read stuff

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like this for yourself, don’t go
in intimidated by the number of

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pages.
Like, yeah, there are dozens and

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dozens and dozens of pages in
these documents that are just

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mar a Lago employee manuals.
Right.

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It’s not like it’s a 2000 page
novel.

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Right, so there’s a lot that you
can just skip over.

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And yeah, like I’ve at this
point in the notes, we’ve got

436
00:25:40,640 –> 00:25:46,760
about 2 1/2 pages of notes and I
was 430 pages into the document

437
00:25:46,920 –> 00:25:49,440
by this point.
So there’s a lot of fluff.

438
00:25:50,120 –> 00:25:53,040
I think a lot of the names that
have been referenced in these

439
00:25:53,040 –> 00:25:57,440
documents come from the flight
logs of Epstein pilot David

440
00:25:57,440 –> 00:26:02,160
Rogers, which those are also
included in these documents.

441
00:26:02,320 –> 00:26:06,000
They’re kind of hard to read.
Here’s what I find interesting.

442
00:26:06,280 –> 00:26:10,200
All of the stuff that like you
would want to really scour for

443
00:26:10,200 –> 00:26:14,680
details in these documents.
The pages are the wrong way.

444
00:26:14,840 –> 00:26:16,840
So like imagine you’re reading a
book.

445
00:26:16,920 –> 00:26:22,360
Now turn it like 45° clockwise
or counterclockwise either way,

446
00:26:22,560 –> 00:26:26,080
and now try to keep reading it
like you can, but it’s going to

447
00:26:26,080 –> 00:26:30,760
be weird reading like up and
down instead of just left to

448
00:26:30,760 –> 00:26:35,160
right like we normally do.
I mean, if you’re on a tablet,

449
00:26:35,160 –> 00:26:38,000
you could like lock it and turn
it and still be able to read it,

450
00:26:38,000 –> 00:26:41,840
but all the stuff you’d really
want to be able to scour in this

451
00:26:41,920 –> 00:26:45,680
is like positioned weird to make
it harder.

452
00:26:45,760 –> 00:26:49,080
And they don’t have like, at
least in the documents will link

453
00:26:49,080 –> 00:26:50,840
to.
There’s no light controls to

454
00:26:50,840 –> 00:26:54,840
like, flip the page.
I even downloaded one of them

455
00:26:54,840 –> 00:26:58,320
and put it in a photo editing
thing and still didn’t have the

456
00:26:58,320 –> 00:26:59,960
option.
They’re really not taking the

457
00:26:59,960 –> 00:27:02,960
user experience into account
when they’re when they’re

458
00:27:02,960 –> 00:27:04,600
publishing these things.
They’re not.

459
00:27:04,760 –> 00:27:08,200
And so these flight logs, there
is one page where Bill Gates

460
00:27:08,200 –> 00:27:11,080
name just could not be bigger,
like it might as well be a

461
00:27:11,080 –> 00:27:14,640
flashing GIF, like it’s pretty
great.

462
00:27:14,840 –> 00:27:18,720
Bill Gates.
But I think this is where a lot

463
00:27:18,880 –> 00:27:22,720
of those names come from.
And those flight logs are

464
00:27:22,720 –> 00:27:27,200
included along with a deposition
of David Rogers.

465
00:27:27,360 –> 00:27:34,360
That is just page after page of
questions about what the numbers

466
00:27:34,560 –> 00:27:41,040
on the tail of an airplane mean.
Because that I mean they’re

467
00:27:41,040 –> 00:27:45,760
trying to like make connections
and like prove Virginia Jeffrey

468
00:27:45,760 –> 00:27:48,760
Story like correlates with these
flight logs.

469
00:27:49,200 –> 00:27:53,640
Sure.
But it is dry AF eating that.

470
00:27:53,680 –> 00:27:54,680
Shit.
Educational.

471
00:27:54,960 –> 00:27:57,040
Nope, not even that.
Like I just.

472
00:27:57,560 –> 00:27:58,880
I.
Blacked out.

473
00:27:59,480 –> 00:28:02,480
I just.
I zoned out reading that.

474
00:28:02,640 –> 00:28:05,480
Yeah.
I think one of the more

475
00:28:05,680 –> 00:28:10,440
interesting interviews in this
is there’s an Epstein employee

476
00:28:10,440 –> 00:28:14,480
named Juan Alesi, but it’s not
interesting in the way people

477
00:28:14,640 –> 00:28:18,480
are going to want it to be.
What Juan Alesi claims is that

478
00:28:18,480 –> 00:28:24,400
Jeffrey Epstein basically had a
massage table in like every room

479
00:28:24,400 –> 00:28:29,400
of his house and just like doled
out massages to people as gifts.

480
00:28:29,600 –> 00:28:33,920
He said there was like 50 to 100
masseuses who worked at the

481
00:28:33,920 –> 00:28:36,360
Epstein residence.
Like they would rotate.

482
00:28:36,640 –> 00:28:39,160
They weren’t just, like, all
there like a fucking rugby.

483
00:28:39,680 –> 00:28:45,040
Army of masseuses.
And he claims that this team of

484
00:28:45,040 –> 00:28:50,840
masseuses ranged in age from
what he assumed was 18, like all

485
00:28:50,840 –> 00:28:54,360
the way up to 40, men and women
both.

486
00:28:54,600 –> 00:28:59,480
He said he was gifted a massage
from a male masseuse in his 40s

487
00:28:59,560 –> 00:29:03,960
once.
And he actually backs up Alan

488
00:29:03,960 –> 00:29:08,880
Dershowitz’s claim, which is
yes, I got a massage at Jeffrey

489
00:29:08,880 –> 00:29:12,200
Epstein’s house and it was from
a woman named Olga who was in

490
00:29:12,200 –> 00:29:16,680
her 40s, and Wanalisi actually
backs that up.

491
00:29:16,680 –> 00:29:20,080
He says yes, I saw Alan
Dershowitz getting a massage and

492
00:29:20,080 –> 00:29:22,960
it was from like a woman, like
an adult.

493
00:29:23,000 –> 00:29:25,360
Yeah woman, he also and that
was.

494
00:29:25,760 –> 00:29:28,080
That was the only one he he got.
Yeah.

495
00:29:28,200 –> 00:29:31,720
Again, you got to please
understand I’m telling you

496
00:29:31,720 –> 00:29:36,880
what’s in the documents.
I’m not advocating for Alan

497
00:29:36,880 –> 00:29:41,920
Dershowitz here, but it is
interesting that this guy does

498
00:29:42,040 –> 00:29:45,760
back that up.
He also says this statement from

499
00:29:45,760 –> 00:29:48,720
Virginia Giafree’s court filing
is a lie.

500
00:29:48,880 –> 00:29:53,120
Here’s quote Alicia was able to
identify a photograph of Miss

501
00:29:53,120 –> 00:29:57,280
Giafree as someone who was at
the mansion at the same time as

502
00:29:57,280 –> 00:30:00,240
Dershowitz.
He says that is not correct.

503
00:30:01,160 –> 00:30:06,000
And that comes in these
documents right before the

504
00:30:06,000 –> 00:30:09,360
Virginia Geoffrey deposition
where she says the thing about

505
00:30:09,360 –> 00:30:12,040
being trafficked to foreign
presidents was actually not

506
00:30:12,160 –> 00:30:14,240
true.
There’s also a very frustrating

507
00:30:14,240 –> 00:30:18,160
detail in that.
She says she kept a diary of all

508
00:30:18,160 –> 00:30:22,600
of her comings and goings around
this time, including all of the

509
00:30:22,600 –> 00:30:25,520
people she was trafficked to and
what she was forced to do.

510
00:30:25,720 –> 00:30:27,880
And she says she burnt it in
2013.

511
00:30:28,080 –> 00:30:28,880
Sure.
Cool.

512
00:30:28,880 –> 00:30:31,440
Cool, cool, cool.
Well, that’s helpful.

513
00:30:32,080 –> 00:30:36,960
So there is something in the 1st
700 or so pages, which is how

514
00:30:36,960 –> 00:30:41,600
far ahead we’ve jumped already,
that I do want to talk about a

515
00:30:41,600 –> 00:30:44,760
little more, but I’ll have to do
it on a future episode.

516
00:30:44,920 –> 00:30:51,280
And that would be Exhibit KK,
which is the manuscript Virginia

517
00:30:51,280 –> 00:30:56,960
Geoffrey wrote about her time as
a Jeffrey Epstein sex slave.

518
00:30:57,160 –> 00:30:59,880
She was attempting to turn it
into a book.

519
00:30:59,880 –> 00:31:03,160
That’s a whole part of Jolene.
Maxwell’s defense also is that

520
00:31:03,160 –> 00:31:04,720
this woman’s just trying to get
a book deal.

521
00:31:04,720 –> 00:31:10,760
It covers pages 696 all the way
through 766, and those are two

522
00:31:10,760 –> 00:31:16,280
book pages each.
So it’s about 100 and 3000 and

523
00:31:16,280 –> 00:31:21,440
40 pages.
And again, every page positioned

524
00:31:21,560 –> 00:31:25,720
wrong, like you have to either
like twist your head, turn your

525
00:31:25,840 –> 00:31:29,120
like, pick up your laptop and
hold it, you know.

526
00:31:29,680 –> 00:31:31,160
Right.
Like, you could still read it,

527
00:31:31,160 –> 00:31:33,480
but it’s a hassle.
I think I’m going to read it and

528
00:31:33,480 –> 00:31:36,680
do like a solo bonus episode
about it next week.

529
00:31:36,680 –> 00:31:40,520
I mean, unless you also want to
read Virginia Jeffrey’s Manus.

530
00:31:40,560 –> 00:31:45,120
I mean, I I I am intrigued, but
not really, no.

531
00:31:45,120 –> 00:31:46,520
I have other things I need to
do.

532
00:31:48,560 –> 00:31:51,600
Well, Speaking of other things
you need to do In the meantime,

533
00:31:51,760 –> 00:31:54,040
let’s talk about the list of
names that.

534
00:31:54,040 –> 00:31:57,200
Happened.
From this release of documents,

535
00:31:57,360 –> 00:32:00,200
finally what we’ve all been
waiting for.

536
00:32:01,040 –> 00:32:05,040
Yes, here we go, our baseless
accusations.

537
00:32:06,000 –> 00:32:08,520
So excited.
This is what I’ve been waiting

538
00:32:08,520 –> 00:32:11,040
for.
And so one thing you have to

539
00:32:11,040 –> 00:32:14,080
take into account along with
everything the court warned

540
00:32:14,080 –> 00:32:18,640
about, which is like, hey, you
don’t want to necessarily report

541
00:32:18,640 –> 00:32:22,640
on this because you might be
committing libel, right?

542
00:32:22,800 –> 00:32:27,360
The other thing you have to take
into account is, again, just

543
00:32:27,360 –> 00:32:32,600
because a name is in these court
records absolutely does not.

544
00:32:32,680 –> 00:32:36,160
One doesn’t mean they’re a
pedophile. 2 doesn’t mean

545
00:32:36,160 –> 00:32:39,520
they’re associated with Jeffrey
Epstein at all.

546
00:32:39,560 –> 00:32:41,240
Right.
And that’s why we’re here to

547
00:32:41,240 –> 00:32:44,160
tell you which ones are.
Yeah, we’re here to like,

548
00:32:44,360 –> 00:32:48,240
really, I think, say
definitively which of these

549
00:32:48,240 –> 00:32:50,240
people are pedophiles.
We’re going to go through the

550
00:32:50,240 –> 00:32:52,920
list.
Legal disclaimer This is all for

551
00:32:52,920 –> 00:32:55,560
entertainment purposes.
Yes, yes.

552
00:32:57,520 –> 00:33:01,680
And as we launch into it, we’re
reading a list from the

553
00:33:01,680 –> 00:33:06,360
Independent, which is AK Outlet
and the video of Trump and

554
00:33:06,360 –> 00:33:09,640
Epstein at that party, where
they’re like both pointing at

555
00:33:09,640 –> 00:33:14,120
probably tweens that like
Trump’s given like the a OK

556
00:33:14,120 –> 00:33:15,320
sign.
Oh, man.

557
00:33:15,680 –> 00:33:16,840
All right, let’s get to this
list.

558
00:33:17,600 –> 00:33:20,080
Julianne Maxwell Obvious.
I think so.

559
00:33:20,120 –> 00:33:27,720
I think Prince Andrew, Yes,
probably, yeah.

560
00:33:28,160 –> 00:33:30,240
Bill Clinton.
Absolutely.

561
00:33:30,240 –> 00:33:33,640
Yeah, Yeah, I would.
I would say probably Donald

562
00:33:33,760 –> 00:33:37,280
Trump, obviously more than
anyone.

563
00:33:37,480 –> 00:33:41,200
Yeah, #1 on the list.
Exactly.

564
00:33:41,320 –> 00:33:43,680
Hillary Clinton.
Sure, why not?

565
00:33:43,680 –> 00:33:46,240
Yeah, where’s she getting that
adrenochrome from if not from

566
00:33:46,240 –> 00:33:49,560
kids?
She’s holding them down.

567
00:33:49,720 –> 00:33:54,120
This was a curveball.
David Copperfield.

568
00:33:54,720 –> 00:33:57,360
Yeah, the magician David
Copperfield.

569
00:33:57,920 –> 00:34:02,040
I’m going to say yes.
Why would he just not make these

570
00:34:02,040 –> 00:34:07,600
allegations disappear?
Like I’m starting to doubt his

571
00:34:07,600 –> 00:34:09,960
magic just by seeing his name on
this list.

572
00:34:09,960 –> 00:34:11,239
Exactly.
Exactly.

573
00:34:11,239 –> 00:34:14,480
That’s what that’s there’s.
That’s what makes it so suspect.

574
00:34:14,679 –> 00:34:17,400
I just love the idea of a
reporter walking up to him and

575
00:34:17,400 –> 00:34:20,159
being like David Copperfield.
Can you explain why your name’s

576
00:34:20,159 –> 00:34:23,360
on this list and he just takes
the list and rubs it and holds

577
00:34:23,360 –> 00:34:25,560
it up?
His name’s not on it anymore.

578
00:34:26,719 –> 00:34:30,080
What do you mean?
Perfect camera shows up.

579
00:34:30,280 –> 00:34:33,159
It’s great.
John Connolly.

580
00:34:33,280 –> 00:34:36,560
Now I’m going to say the first
part of his description.

581
00:34:36,800 –> 00:34:38,960
Right.
New York Police detectives.

582
00:34:39,080 –> 00:34:41,560
At that point you got me.
Sure, why not.

583
00:34:42,199 –> 00:34:48,800
But New York Police detective
turned investigative journalist

584
00:34:49,000 –> 00:34:52,520
who investigated Epstein.
So that is a good example.

585
00:34:52,600 –> 00:34:56,560
A cab all the same.
But that is a fine example of

586
00:34:56,560 –> 00:35:02,240
how not every name in this is
necessarily tied to Jeffrey

587
00:35:02,240 –> 00:35:05,920
Epstein’s pedophile ring as a
consumer.

588
00:35:06,040 –> 00:35:08,320
Client.
Yeah, that’s probably a better

589
00:35:08,320 –> 00:35:09,960
word.
Alan Dershowitz.

590
00:35:10,080 –> 00:35:12,640
Sure, sure.
Yes, absolutely.

591
00:35:13,480 –> 00:35:16,040
This one?
This isn’t a surprise, is it?

592
00:35:16,240 –> 00:35:20,600
Leonardo DiCaprio.
I’m gonna say no.

593
00:35:20,760 –> 00:35:22,880
I’m saying no.
I’m defending Leo.

594
00:35:23,040 –> 00:35:27,440
Yeah, I’m gonna defend him too,
because he does like he dates

595
00:35:27,440 –> 00:35:30,160
young, that’s exactly for sure.
And.

596
00:35:30,200 –> 00:35:32,040
That’s what makes it easy.
Right.

597
00:35:32,360 –> 00:35:37,000
But like, he can just do that.
Exactly, yes, right.

598
00:35:37,000 –> 00:35:38,920
He could date legal young
people.

599
00:35:39,280 –> 00:35:41,480
Yeah.
Like, women in their early 20s

600
00:35:41,480 –> 00:35:45,320
are great and I’m sure right.
Leonardo DiCaprio has a great

601
00:35:45,320 –> 00:35:48,000
time dating them.
Yeah.

602
00:35:48,360 –> 00:35:51,600
You know, I’m I can’t convict
the guy for being an insecure

603
00:35:51,600 –> 00:35:53,160
middle-aged man.
Right.

604
00:35:53,320 –> 00:35:56,280
How about Al Gore?
This one’s tough because, you

605
00:35:56,280 –> 00:35:59,520
know, he is a member of the
government and so culpable.

606
00:35:59,520 –> 00:36:02,600
But I don’t know, he seems kind
of chill.

607
00:36:02,600 –> 00:36:05,320
Right?
Is, has he done anything really

608
00:36:05,320 –> 00:36:07,960
bad lately?
Not really.

609
00:36:08,280 –> 00:36:11,120
Yeah, he mostly is just on the
environment tip.

610
00:36:11,560 –> 00:36:18,080
I like that The Independent is
and pretty much every outlet is

611
00:36:18,080 –> 00:36:22,240
just giving us these lists with
no context, right?

612
00:36:22,400 –> 00:36:27,280
Like if they know these names
are in the lists like would it

613
00:36:27,280 –> 00:36:32,800
kill them to put a like one line
to tell us what it says or?

614
00:36:32,800 –> 00:36:37,360
This was from a flight log.
This is from a, a, a testimony

615
00:36:37,360 –> 00:36:41,200
or whatever.
Yeah, it’s kind of irresponsible

616
00:36:41,440 –> 00:36:43,520
of them.
I would say mildly

617
00:36:43,520 –> 00:36:46,520
irresponsible, right?
But I would also say that most

618
00:36:46,680 –> 00:36:49,680
the way that this entire case
has been handled in the press is

619
00:36:49,680 –> 00:36:52,880
pretty irresponsible.
And to that extent, that’s why

620
00:36:52,880 –> 00:36:57,240
we are coming down hard and
definitively stating whether or

621
00:36:57,240 –> 00:37:01,680
not these people are pedophiles.
Like Richard Branson, listen.

622
00:37:01,680 –> 00:37:03,800
Richard Branson.
Yeah, he’s on the list.

623
00:37:03,800 –> 00:37:05,280
Sure.
Here’s the thing.

624
00:37:05,600 –> 00:37:09,360
I met Richard Branson and he was
very nice.

625
00:37:09,480 –> 00:37:11,760
I met him at the Virgin Music
Festival.

626
00:37:13,080 –> 00:37:14,840
I don’t know.
I don’t know about.

627
00:37:14,880 –> 00:37:19,680
Him is called Virgin.
So suspicious.

628
00:37:19,840 –> 00:37:21,880
Yeah, I don’t know, Richard
Branson.

629
00:37:22,000 –> 00:37:27,040
I’m going to say no.
Because here’s the thing.

630
00:37:27,080 –> 00:37:29,200
Here’s the thing.
Richard Branson doesn’t need

631
00:37:29,200 –> 00:37:34,720
Jeffrey Epstein to procure young
girls for illegal means.

632
00:37:34,880 –> 00:37:37,680
He’s Richard Branson.
He’s got an island like Mariah

633
00:37:37,680 –> 00:37:41,760
Carey very famously was like
just renting his island when he

634
00:37:41,760 –> 00:37:46,040
did his episode of MTV Cribs.
Like, I feel like Branson could

635
00:37:46,040 –> 00:37:48,160
just run his own sex trafficking
ring.

636
00:37:49,000 –> 00:37:52,440
Maybe he does.
Yeah, yeah, maybe so, yeah, I

637
00:37:52,440 –> 00:37:55,720
guess that’s a maybe.
I guess that’s a maybe from us.

638
00:37:56,480 –> 00:37:58,920
Here it is Stephen Hawking.
Stephen.

639
00:37:58,920 –> 00:38:01,720
Hawking.
Stephen Hawking.

640
00:38:02,440 –> 00:38:07,720
I I’m going to say no, I It just
doesn’t seem plausible.

641
00:38:08,000 –> 00:38:11,800
And not because he’s disabled,
but it’s because it doesn’t seem

642
00:38:11,800 –> 00:38:15,160
like it’s part of his vibe.
But I don’t know.

643
00:38:15,320 –> 00:38:17,440
Yeah, it would be shocking like
I.

644
00:38:17,560 –> 00:38:20,480
Did like cheat on his wife.
Did he?

645
00:38:20,680 –> 00:38:22,240
Yes.
Wow.

646
00:38:22,800 –> 00:38:25,880
But also, who cares?
Yeah, I don’t know.

647
00:38:26,840 –> 00:38:31,400
Up next Yehud Barack, former
Israeli Prime Minister.

648
00:38:31,760 –> 00:38:33,000
Yeah, definitely.
Sure.

649
00:38:33,120 –> 00:38:34,520
Why not?
Fuck him.

650
00:38:35,640 –> 00:38:39,680
Michael Jackson thanked musician
known as the King of Pop.

651
00:38:39,760 –> 00:38:41,960
Yeah, Yes, I don’t.
Know.

652
00:38:42,480 –> 00:38:46,080
I don’t know.
I don’t know if he had any weird

653
00:38:46,080 –> 00:38:49,720
relationship with children.
We’ll have to investigate that

654
00:38:49,720 –> 00:38:51,400
further.
And here’s the thing.

655
00:38:51,600 –> 00:38:55,480
I obviously can’t prove it.
I’d have to file like a FOIA

656
00:38:55,480 –> 00:38:58,200
request, and that’s a great way
to get on the government’s radar

657
00:38:58,280 –> 00:39:01,960
more than you want to be.
But I have for a long time

658
00:39:01,960 –> 00:39:05,320
suspected Michael Jackson
probably had.

659
00:39:05,520 –> 00:39:09,240
I mean, I don’t think he was
like ACIA agent, but I guarantee

660
00:39:09,240 –> 00:39:13,400
you the government was hitting
him up when he was like the only

661
00:39:13,400 –> 00:39:17,280
person who who could go to every
fucking country on earth.

662
00:39:17,480 –> 00:39:20,720
Like, there was a point in
history I was alive for it,

663
00:39:20,840 –> 00:39:26,080
where Michael Jackson was just
globally seen as this force for

664
00:39:26,080 –> 00:39:31,880
peace and harmony in the world,
and he could go to any country

665
00:39:31,960 –> 00:39:36,840
and the leader of that country
would just openly embrace him.

666
00:39:37,080 –> 00:39:40,880
Who’s the first person, first
American performer in Russia

667
00:39:40,880 –> 00:39:43,360
after the wall fell?
It’s fucking Michael Jackson,

668
00:39:43,680 –> 00:39:48,800
like the first major concert.
And like like no one else had

669
00:39:48,800 –> 00:39:53,600
the access he had.
And man, he was never really

670
00:39:53,760 –> 00:39:57,520
taken to task for all the
pedophilia stuff like.

671
00:39:57,920 –> 00:39:59,360
No, he did die.
What?

672
00:39:59,880 –> 00:40:02,040
Yeah, he did.
And and then he died.

673
00:40:02,280 –> 00:40:05,920
He did die.
And so that, you know, that is

674
00:40:05,920 –> 00:40:08,280
the ultimate accountability when
you think about it.

675
00:40:08,480 –> 00:40:13,400
Yeah, I mean, we all die, but we
don’t all that’s.

676
00:40:13,800 –> 00:40:16,280
Never needs to be seen.
I want to say.

677
00:40:16,520 –> 00:40:19,480
I just can’t believe that Kevin
Spacey would be involved in

678
00:40:19,480 –> 00:40:22,120
anything like this.
Are we just just jumping over

679
00:40:22,120 –> 00:40:23,760
Marvin Minsky because we don’t
know who that is?

680
00:40:23,760 –> 00:40:25,440
What?
The fuck is that?

681
00:40:25,560 –> 00:40:26,920
I don’t care.
Marvin Minxy.

682
00:40:27,240 –> 00:40:28,920
Sorry, that’s kind of a cool
name.

683
00:40:28,920 –> 00:40:31,640
He’s an artificial intelligence
pioneer.

684
00:40:31,680 –> 00:40:34,000
So, yeah, probably.
But actually, I think he’s.

685
00:40:34,480 –> 00:40:37,640
I think he’s one who’s like
really pushed back and like,

686
00:40:37,640 –> 00:40:41,360
maybe proved that he wasn’t
actually involved.

687
00:40:41,600 –> 00:40:43,960
But good.
Kevin Spacey.

688
00:40:43,960 –> 00:40:46,000
I don’t know who he is.
Yeah, Kevin Spacey.

689
00:40:46,000 –> 00:40:47,320
No.
No way.

690
00:40:47,520 –> 00:40:49,000
Come on.
That guy.

691
00:40:50,080 –> 00:40:51,920
Kevin Spacey.
Yeah.

692
00:40:52,040 –> 00:40:54,120
Yeah, probably.
What you’re going to tell me

693
00:40:54,120 –> 00:40:55,360
next?
You’re going to tell me Brian

694
00:40:55,360 –> 00:40:57,280
Singer’s on this list?
Like, come on.

695
00:40:57,600 –> 00:41:01,240
Shockingly, he’s not right.
Yeah, that is actually kind of

696
00:41:01,240 –> 00:41:04,760
funny.
Yeah, some notable names missing

697
00:41:04,760 –> 00:41:07,160
from this list.
Where’s R Kelly?

698
00:41:07,640 –> 00:41:10,160
Well, yeah, he’s he’s in the
closet.

699
00:41:12,240 –> 00:41:16,440
And also, I think R Kelly same
same rule as Richard Branson

700
00:41:16,480 –> 00:41:19,000
applies.
R Kelly’s like, I don’t need

701
00:41:19,000 –> 00:41:21,800
your sex trafficking ring.
You see what’s happening in my

702
00:41:21,800 –> 00:41:24,360
studio right now?
Exactly.

703
00:41:24,360 –> 00:41:25,920
Same with Same with Bryan
Singer.

704
00:41:25,920 –> 00:41:28,280
He’s throwing those parties.
He doesn’t need this.

705
00:41:28,440 –> 00:41:33,760
Yeah, what about George Lucas?
Oh, I’m saying definitively.

706
00:41:33,760 –> 00:41:36,800
No, he is not.
If you have ever.

707
00:41:36,800 –> 00:41:40,880
Yeah, George Lucas.
If you have ever heard that man

708
00:41:40,880 –> 00:41:43,720
speak at length.
You.

709
00:41:43,800 –> 00:41:47,520
Just you just don’t get the
sense that he’s a sex fiend, you

710
00:41:47,520 –> 00:41:54,800
know?
Jean Luc Brunel.

711
00:41:55,320 –> 00:41:56,520
I’ll just.
I’ll just read.

712
00:41:56,640 –> 00:41:58,800
I’ll just read you what the
Independent has here.

713
00:41:59,160 –> 00:42:03,200
French model agency boss and
alleged Epstein Co conspirator

714
00:42:03,400 –> 00:42:07,360
who died in an apparent suicide
while awaiting trial.

715
00:42:07,560 –> 00:42:11,400
What?
Yeah, so two people from that,

716
00:42:11,400 –> 00:42:15,560
Epstein. 22 Co conspiracies
Well, you know, Look, you only

717
00:42:15,560 –> 00:42:19,680
get involved in something like
this if you’re on the brink, I

718
00:42:19,800 –> 00:42:23,320
guess.
Crazy Cate Blanchett?

719
00:42:23,480 –> 00:42:24,440
No.
No.

720
00:42:24,640 –> 00:42:25,240
Right.
No.

721
00:42:25,240 –> 00:42:27,160
No.
Absolutely not.

722
00:42:28,600 –> 00:42:31,360
Naomi Campbell.
I’ll tell you why.

723
00:42:31,360 –> 00:42:34,280
I mean, this is this is an
instant no for me.

724
00:42:34,280 –> 00:42:38,240
Because I know why her name
comes up in Virginia Geoffrey’s

725
00:42:38,320 –> 00:42:42,440
testimony at one point, And this
speaks to how irresponsible

726
00:42:42,440 –> 00:42:44,040
they’re being with reporting
this.

727
00:42:44,480 –> 00:42:47,680
And in Virginia Geoffrey’s
testimony, which I read

728
00:42:47,680 –> 00:42:51,960
yesterday, she at one point
they’re grilling her about the

729
00:42:51,960 –> 00:42:56,240
dates when this all like one of
the allegations she’s making

730
00:42:56,240 –> 00:42:58,560
happened.
And she says, I think it’s

731
00:42:58,560 –> 00:43:03,400
around the time Naomi Campbell
threw her birthday party.

732
00:43:03,920 –> 00:43:06,080
And that’s why Naomi Campbell is
in here.

733
00:43:06,080 –> 00:43:09,760
And it’s actually one of the
things that Jelain Maxwell I

734
00:43:09,760 –> 00:43:13,480
believe’s, I believe it’s her
defense team is like that’s not

735
00:43:13,480 –> 00:43:16,880
Naomi Campbell’s birthday.
Like those dates don’t match.

736
00:43:17,960 –> 00:43:23,000
And so Naomi Campbell is on this
list because her name is said in

737
00:43:23,000 –> 00:43:27,440
court, but not as a client of
Jeffrey Epstein.

738
00:43:27,600 –> 00:43:31,720
And I feel like they got enough
room to just mention that here.

739
00:43:31,840 –> 00:43:35,440
They should.
Yes, Sharon Churcher, British

740
00:43:35,520 –> 00:43:37,640
journalist.
She is not a pedophile.

741
00:43:37,640 –> 00:43:42,440
She is the woman Virginia
Geoffrey was working with to

742
00:43:42,640 –> 00:43:47,040
write and sell her book.
And she also, I believe, wrote a

743
00:43:47,040 –> 00:43:49,840
bunch of the early Daily Mail
articles.

744
00:43:50,000 –> 00:43:53,960
So yeah, they, the independent,
really should have been curating

745
00:43:53,960 –> 00:43:57,480
this list of names, I think,
because first of all, we’re not

746
00:43:57,480 –> 00:44:00,800
going to be able to get through
all of them because there are so

747
00:44:00,800 –> 00:44:03,000
many names.
There’s also.

748
00:44:03,040 –> 00:44:06,000
Like, it’s insane.
There’s a bunch of like regular

749
00:44:06,000 –> 00:44:09,120
ass people too, Like there’s
like doctors that Virginia

750
00:44:09,120 –> 00:44:12,160
Geoffrey was seen by and things
like that, like that.

751
00:44:12,320 –> 00:44:14,800
Like we’re not going to say
their names like.

752
00:44:15,240 –> 00:44:17,360
It gets to a point where they
though it.

753
00:44:17,680 –> 00:44:19,560
It gets to, Oh yeah, absolutely.
But it does get to.

754
00:44:19,600 –> 00:44:22,480
I just want to say it gets to a
point where they just stop

755
00:44:22,480 –> 00:44:27,040
giving like even minor context
on these names.

756
00:44:27,560 –> 00:44:30,560
Like like half of the names
don’t even have descriptions.

757
00:44:31,120 –> 00:44:33,920
Bruce Willis.
Bruce Willis.

758
00:44:33,920 –> 00:44:38,440
I I’m going to come down on.
No, I’m going to say no, Bruno.

759
00:44:38,640 –> 00:44:42,080
Again, not just because I like
Bruce Willis as an actor, but

760
00:44:42,080 –> 00:44:45,520
because, I mean, he’s got, you
know, he had a troubled past

761
00:44:45,520 –> 00:44:47,680
when he was still Compost
Mentos.

762
00:44:48,280 –> 00:44:52,760
Compost Mentos Yeah, But you
know, I just that this just

763
00:44:52,760 –> 00:44:56,560
never seemed like his vibe.
Yeah, Bill Richardson, former

764
00:44:56,560 –> 00:44:59,040
governor of New Mexico.
That’s another name that’s been

765
00:44:59,280 –> 00:45:02,880
in this story for a long, long,
long time.

766
00:45:02,960 –> 00:45:06,640
Yeah, fuck that guy.
Yeah, Cameron Diaz.

767
00:45:06,840 –> 00:45:10,560
No, I mean, again, no, Cameron
Diaz isn’t a pedophile.

768
00:45:10,560 –> 00:45:15,040
Get out of here.
Jesus Glenn Dubin, American

769
00:45:15,040 –> 00:45:17,880
hedge fund manager who was
allegedly friends with Epstein.

770
00:45:18,200 –> 00:45:19,440
Right.
And his wife.

771
00:45:19,840 –> 00:45:22,080
Right, Ava, I’m going to say
Eva.

772
00:45:22,160 –> 00:45:25,080
Anderson Dubin You know what?
I’m going to say no.

773
00:45:25,280 –> 00:45:27,080
OK.
We’re just going to mix it up.

774
00:45:27,440 –> 00:45:31,080
I mean, look, any hedge fund
manager does not get my trust,

775
00:45:31,400 –> 00:45:33,760
and especially one who is
friends with Epstein.

776
00:45:33,840 –> 00:45:36,960
If he’s there with his wife,
like, I feel like that might

777
00:45:36,960 –> 00:45:39,600
have just been Bill.
Was there with his wife.

778
00:45:40,120 –> 00:45:41,640
Who?
Bill Clinton was there with his

779
00:45:41,640 –> 00:45:46,160
wife, that’s true.
That’s true.

780
00:45:46,160 –> 00:45:49,720
Noam Chomsky, yeah.
I remember this came out a while

781
00:45:49,720 –> 00:45:53,800
ago in like they they released a
teaser trailer for these

782
00:45:54,000 –> 00:45:56,640
documents a few months ago.
Yeah.

783
00:45:57,520 –> 00:46:00,800
And and Noam Chomsky’s name was
mentioned.

784
00:46:00,920 –> 00:46:03,760
I’m in the middle on this one.
I don’t want it to be true,

785
00:46:03,760 –> 00:46:06,120
because that would suck.
Yeah.

786
00:46:06,480 –> 00:46:11,760
Because he’s a smart guy.
Great who is a great writer but

787
00:46:11,760 –> 00:46:15,520
I mean I can’t necessary I he’s
one where as much as I don’t

788
00:46:15,520 –> 00:46:19,280
want it to be true, I can’t come
out and just say it’s definitely

789
00:46:19,280 –> 00:46:22,480
not true.
I would need more information.

790
00:46:22,880 –> 00:46:26,120
And I know, much to the
disappointment of a lot of

791
00:46:26,120 –> 00:46:30,600
people, we are definitely
nearing the end of the famous

792
00:46:30,600 –> 00:46:33,640
names.
And yeah, in some cases, we’re

793
00:46:33,640 –> 00:46:36,840
stretching the definition of
famous, like Tom Pritzker,

794
00:46:36,840 –> 00:46:38,640
American tycoon and
philanthropist.

795
00:46:39,520 –> 00:46:40,600
Yeah.
And I’m going to say yeah.

796
00:46:40,760 –> 00:46:43,200
Yeah, I don’t know who that is
about Tom Pritzker, but with the

797
00:46:43,200 –> 00:46:46,280
name with Tycoon in your
description, right, you’re.

798
00:46:46,440 –> 00:46:47,840
Fucking.
Capable of anything?

799
00:46:47,840 –> 00:46:50,040
Shit.
And and again, just to talk

800
00:46:50,040 –> 00:46:54,480
about, I want to, I want to say
just to like say the breadth of

801
00:46:54,480 –> 00:46:58,720
the names that are on this list
later on this list is Virginia

802
00:46:58,720 –> 00:47:00,040
Jeffrey.
Yes.

803
00:47:00,120 –> 00:47:01,800
So I.
Think again.

804
00:47:01,800 –> 00:47:05,200
This is telling you that it’s
really a buckshot approach to

805
00:47:05,200 –> 00:47:08,560
names in this list.
And we only really have three

806
00:47:08,560 –> 00:47:11,880
famous names left, Chris Tucker,
who we’ve already talked about.

807
00:47:12,000 –> 00:47:15,160
Yeah, he’s not.
Sarah Ferguson, Duchess of York,

808
00:47:15,240 –> 00:47:17,440
former wife of Prince Andrew.
Which?

809
00:47:18,000 –> 00:47:21,280
There’s your explanation for why
she would be named in this

810
00:47:21,480 –> 00:47:24,920
exactly like her name probably
just came up right?

811
00:47:25,080 –> 00:47:34,080
Robert F Kennedy Junior.
Uh oh, relevant to the Times.

812
00:47:36,440 –> 00:47:38,720
This will, I’m going to say,
yeah, that guy.

813
00:47:38,720 –> 00:47:43,320
Yeah, this will be.
Interesting as 2024 carries on,

814
00:47:43,320 –> 00:47:45,720
because here’s the thing, we
talked about it on another

815
00:47:45,720 –> 00:47:48,800
episode.
RFK Junior Poland really well in

816
00:47:48,800 –> 00:47:52,640
a three-way race and he has
declared he’s running as an

817
00:47:52,640 –> 00:47:56,160
independent and this is the
America we want.

818
00:47:56,280 –> 00:47:58,040
It’s good.
Like, yeah, we’re all worried

819
00:47:58,040 –> 00:48:02,160
about Trump and Biden and now
we’re going to have RFK Junior

820
00:48:02,280 –> 00:48:05,720
for our next president.
Unless isn’t it Jeffrey Epstein

821
00:48:05,720 –> 00:48:08,960
can stop him.
Isn’t it great that of the three

822
00:48:08,960 –> 00:48:14,480
leading presidential candidates,
two of them are known associates

823
00:48:14,480 –> 00:48:17,360
of Jeffrey Epstein?
That’s so cool.

824
00:48:17,480 –> 00:48:20,080
Isn’t that awesome?
And one of them is a convicted

825
00:48:20,080 –> 00:48:24,000
felon.
That’s right, USA.

826
00:48:24,200 –> 00:48:26,760
So yeah, from there, there’s a
lot of names.

827
00:48:27,120 –> 00:48:30,200
Like just regular ass people
like James Ostrich.

828
00:48:30,200 –> 00:48:31,320
I think he was like a doctor.
Yeah.

829
00:48:31,400 –> 00:48:32,960
Well, hey.
What about?

830
00:48:33,000 –> 00:48:36,440
What about Dave Rogers, private
jet pilot for FC?

831
00:48:37,000 –> 00:48:40,560
Oh yeah, Like, we know.
We know he’s named in this.

832
00:48:40,760 –> 00:48:45,160
And yeah, like, they have the
names of, like, Epstein

833
00:48:45,160 –> 00:48:49,680
accusers, a celebrity
hairstylist, Epstein.

834
00:48:49,680 –> 00:48:54,160
Mark Zepp, New York Decorator.
Yeah, Epstein’s Butler.

835
00:48:54,320 –> 00:48:58,280
Virginia Giafri like Olivia just
said Crystal Figueroa.

836
00:48:58,280 –> 00:49:01,520
Anthony Figueroa.
Anthony Figueroa was Virginia

837
00:49:01,520 –> 00:49:04,720
Roberts boyfriend, who is also
Virginia Giafri.

838
00:49:04,840 –> 00:49:08,760
Crystal is his sister.
Like there’s from there it’s

839
00:49:09,000 –> 00:49:12,280
like we really have.
I’m just kind of scanning to see

840
00:49:12,280 –> 00:49:15,440
if there’s any other, like,
recognizable names and not

841
00:49:15,520 –> 00:49:19,240
really Joe Pagano.
That sounds like a guy who

842
00:49:19,240 –> 00:49:22,840
coaches in the NFL, but that
guy’s name is Chuck, and I don’t

843
00:49:22,840 –> 00:49:25,440
think he’s even a coach anymore.
Yeah, there’s some cops.

844
00:49:25,440 –> 00:49:27,240
They’re probably guilty of
something.

845
00:49:28,360 –> 00:49:30,080
Yeah, yeah.
And then the rest.

846
00:49:30,520 –> 00:49:34,400
Like, it’s really an
underwhelming list, although

847
00:49:34,400 –> 00:49:38,440
they do throw Lex Wexner way
down at the bottom, founder of L

848
00:49:38,440 –> 00:49:41,720
Brands and a former business
partner of Epstein.

849
00:49:41,920 –> 00:49:45,920
Am I crazy that he’s like, the
one guy who actually let

850
00:49:46,040 –> 00:49:48,600
Epstein, like, publicly handle
his money?

851
00:49:48,720 –> 00:49:50,440
Because remember.
You might be right.

852
00:49:50,600 –> 00:49:54,880
Epstein had one client.
Like, as a money guy, I’m not.

853
00:49:54,880 –> 00:49:56,280
I’m not going to be able to find
it.

854
00:49:56,280 –> 00:49:59,800
But I think it was Lex Wexner.
I mean it is the thing where it

855
00:49:59,800 –> 00:50:03,600
starts off so strong with such
big names and then kind of

856
00:50:03,600 –> 00:50:06,960
Peters out pretty quickly.
Yeah, by the end, you’re just

857
00:50:06,960 –> 00:50:09,440
looking for cool names like
Doctor Wah Wah.

858
00:50:10,920 –> 00:50:14,480
And that’s just a physician who
treated Virginia Geoffrey and is

859
00:50:14,480 –> 00:50:17,440
also named after a very famous
guitar pedal.

860
00:50:18,080 –> 00:50:20,000
So yeah, the list of names
isn’t.

861
00:50:20,200 –> 00:50:23,360
I would argue it’s not it’s not
that interesting and it’s

862
00:50:23,400 –> 00:50:27,800
there’s nothing that new, right.
Like it seems like the Stephen

863
00:50:27,800 –> 00:50:30,680
Hawking thing, maybe?
That that I had not.

864
00:50:30,680 –> 00:50:33,800
I had not heard his name before
these documents or Cate

865
00:50:33,800 –> 00:50:36,560
Blanchett.
Yeah, and.

866
00:50:36,880 –> 00:50:39,280
Or George Lucas, like those are
the big surprises and then

867
00:50:39,280 –> 00:50:40,960
you’re and you think about it
and you’re like, well those

868
00:50:40,960 –> 00:50:43,840
don’t really make any sense.
Yeah, yeah, ’cause there are

869
00:50:43,840 –> 00:50:46,440
going to be some people who
they’re just around.

870
00:50:46,440 –> 00:50:48,720
This guy knew people.
He was all over the place.

871
00:50:49,000 –> 00:50:50,600
So I think that’s our episode,
right?

872
00:50:50,720 –> 00:50:54,720
Yeah, I think so.
I apologize if any of our Q Anon

873
00:50:54,800 –> 00:50:58,160
listeners were hoping this
episode was going to kick off

874
00:50:58,160 –> 00:51:02,480
the storm and we were just going
to name a bunch of Democrats and

875
00:51:02,480 –> 00:51:05,720
liberal, famous people who
should be eaten.

876
00:51:05,880 –> 00:51:09,120
But I’m sorry, these documents
just didn’t turn out that way.

877
00:51:09,440 –> 00:51:12,520
Well, let’s just take a moment
now to kick off the storm.

878
00:51:12,880 –> 00:51:14,840
This is it.
We’re kicking off the storm now.

879
00:51:15,040 –> 00:51:15,760
Yeah.
Yeah.

880
00:51:16,160 –> 00:51:18,520
Storm has commenced.
There.

881
00:51:18,800 –> 00:51:24,000
All right there, man.
Fucking go do it.

882
00:51:24,120 –> 00:51:24,880
Do it.
Whatever.

883
00:51:25,040 –> 00:51:27,600
No, actually.
Don’t, don’t, boogaloo boys.

884
00:51:27,760 –> 00:51:31,800
Yeah.
Anyway, hey, thanks for thanks

885
00:51:31,800 –> 00:51:33,680
for doing.
Thanks for doing the pod as

886
00:51:33,680 –> 00:51:34,600
always.
Yeah.

887
00:51:34,720 –> 00:51:37,440
No, this is great.
I’m always happy to talk about

888
00:51:38,520 –> 00:51:42,400
my good pal Jeff.
I hope so, because we might do

889
00:51:42,400 –> 00:51:46,080
another of these.
I still have approximately 1300

890
00:51:46,080 –> 00:51:48,200
pages of documents to go
through.

891
00:51:48,200 –> 00:51:49,960
There’s got to be something fun
in there.

892
00:51:50,120 –> 00:51:51,920
Probably.
I bet there’s some bombshells.

893
00:51:52,120 –> 00:51:55,600
What if there’s like we we wrote
off like Cameron Diaz and I’m

894
00:51:55,600 –> 00:51:59,920
going to get like Page 1885 and
it’s just going to be graphic

895
00:52:00,160 –> 00:52:04,800
details about Cameron Diaz just
brutally abusing kids?

896
00:52:05,160 –> 00:52:07,600
Oh, I would hate that.
Yeah, I would hate that a whole

897
00:52:07,600 –> 00:52:09,000
lot.
It’s probably not going to be

898
00:52:09,000 –> 00:52:10,840
that.
It’s probably going to someone.

899
00:52:10,840 –> 00:52:12,200
Someone’s going to be like,
yeah.

900
00:52:12,200 –> 00:52:16,160
And then we watched There’s
Something About Mary, like, OK,

901
00:52:16,160 –> 00:52:17,400
the.
Independent star of that.

902
00:52:17,480 –> 00:52:19,160
Film.
Yeah, you didn’t want to tell us

903
00:52:19,280 –> 00:52:21,280
that.
That was why she’s mentioned

904
00:52:22,080 –> 00:52:24,240
Cameron Diaz.
Go read the documents for

905
00:52:24,240 –> 00:52:28,040
yourself to find out why.
So I think we can get out of

906
00:52:28,040 –> 00:52:28,880
here.
We did it.

907
00:52:29,080 –> 00:52:31,120
Yeah.
What do we have to plug?

908
00:52:31,120 –> 00:52:33,160
I would like if people would go
read my sub stack.

909
00:52:33,160 –> 00:52:36,320
Adam Todd brown.substack.com And
that’s all I got.

910
00:52:36,320 –> 00:52:40,360
Well, Instagram Adam Todd Brown,
Todd with one Follow me there.

911
00:52:40,520 –> 00:52:44,200
Olivia, what do you got to plug?
I mean, not much.

912
00:52:44,200 –> 00:52:45,720
I’m on Twitter.
Hi there.

913
00:52:45,720 –> 00:52:47,880
Hi, Dar.
Other than that, I don’t care.

914
00:52:49,240 –> 00:52:50,760
Cares, you know?
Yeah.

915
00:52:50,960 –> 00:52:52,840
All right, let’s get the fuck
out of here.

916
00:52:52,840 –> 00:52:54,880
Olivia, Say goodbye.
Bye.

917
00:52:55,120 –> 00:52:56,200
Goodbye, everybody.
We love you.

918
00:53:01,560 –> 00:53:04,920
People have Earth.
Your planet has to be destroyed.

919
00:53:04,960 –> 00:53:16,680
Your
planet has to be destroyed.

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