Adam goes it alone to talk about all of the weird and horrifying revelations found in the Virginia Roberts manuscript buried in the most recent batch of Jeffrey Epstein files.
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Welcome to Conspiracy the Show,
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conspiracy theory podcast with
your hosts Adam Todd Brown and
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Olivia Hydar.
Hey everybody, welcome to
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Conspiracy the show.
I’m your host Adam Todd Brown
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joining me as Co host this week.
Oh, my favorite Co host of all.
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No Co host.
In fact, I don’t even have any
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guests this week.
Because here’s the thing, I
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don’t want to subject guests or
Co hosts to the topic that we
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are covering this week.
We meaning me, meaning I I’m
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talking about one of the more
interesting and scandalous
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sections of the most recent
Epstein Files release.
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That is the Virginia Roberts
Manuscript AKA Virginia
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Geoffrey.
She is the Epstein accuser who
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brought celebrity names into the
mix.
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A lot of the more damning stuff
that you’ve heard from the
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Epstein files actually comes
from this manuscript.
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She was trying to sell a book.
The name of that book was going
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to be the Billionaire’s Playboy
Club.
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And again, that first round of
accusers didn’t really mention
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celebrities or famous people.
They were all just referencing
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Jeffrey Epstein in their claims
and lawsuits.
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All these celebrity stuff kind
of starts with Virginia Jeffrey.
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This manuscript, it’s about 140
pages.
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I mentioned on the first Epstein
episode that reading this within
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the Epstein files is very
difficult because the pages are
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oriented really weird.
But I did notice since then
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there’s a drop down box at the
bottom and you just change the
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setting from document to text
and everything in these files
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becomes way easier to read.
I wish I knew that when I read,
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you know, like pages one to 700
but water under the bridge, you
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know, so this is the last of the
Epstein Files episodes we’re
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doing.
This is going to be a little
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shorter episode, by the way,
because there is no guest to
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jump in With all the witty
banter that I know, the guests
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and hosts on this network would
absolutely bring to a topic like
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this manuscript.
It starts with her camping out
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on Miami Beach, homeless at the
age of 13 in 1997.
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She talks about her upbringing.
It is pretty clear she had a
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Rocky family history, to say the
least.
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She talks about being abused as
a young girl.
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There’s no details, and hey,
that’s fine.
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There are plenty of other
harrowing details in this
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manuscript.
She is talking in this book
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about being on the streets of
Miami at the age of 13, and
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she’s panhandling for change.
And just out of nowhere, a black
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stretch limousine pulls up.
In the back of the limo Was a
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businessman and modeling agency
owner named Ron Eppinger.
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So at first I was like, oh, I
get it, She’s just changing
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names here to like, not get
sued.
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And that’s actually Jeffrey
Epstein.
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And no, no, unfortunately that
is not the case.
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Ron Eppinger is just another
very well known and infamous
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pedophile in the Florida, Miami
Beach, West Palm Beach area who
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I believe has since died.
He definitely went to prison if
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my Googling is correct.
It looks like he might have a
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kid who was also named Ron.
Which, come on, if you’re going
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to be a famous pedophile, at
least don’t name your kid after
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you.
Or hey, if you’re that kid,
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change your name and, I don’t
know, might not even be his kid.
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You think I looked into it that
far?
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I was all traumatized from
reading this manuscript.
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Anyway, let’s get back to that.
So, Ron Eppinger, she talks
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about Ron Eppinger’s operation,
which was pretty intense, this
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guy, at least according to her.
I didn’t delve into all the
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details of his misdeeds yet, but
according to her, he ran a sex
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trafficking ring that
specifically preyed on illegal
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immigrants and she describes
that first night meeting, Ron
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Eppinger.
And I am definitely not going to
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go into detail about that here.
It’s as heinous as you’d expect.
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It’s a very tough read.
There are a lot of details that
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sound almost kind of
fantastical, like bordering on
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made-up.
But at the same time, I don’t
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know how a fucking pedophile
operates.
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Maybe all of that is completely
normal in that world.
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But also, this is a manuscript
for a novel that’s being
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ghostwritten by a journalist,
and that part gets a little
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awkward from time to time.
We’ll talk about that more so
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after a few months with Ron
Eppinger.
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She ends up getting in trouble
for making phone calls to people
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back home.
She’s been moved to a ranch in,
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like, Central Florida by this
point.
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Ron Eppinger finds out.
And it sets up a really
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interesting moment in this book,
because one thing I should
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remind everyone of, as
referenced in the Epstein files
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themselves.
Everything in here.
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These are all allegations.
This isn’t necessarily all stuff
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that you can take as news per
SE, and so keep that in mind
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when we talk about this next
part.
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After Ron Eppinger finds out
that she’s been making these
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phone calls, he basically sends
her off to another dude.
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Like just gives her away.
He lives in the Miami area.
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He’s in a bachelor pad.
His name is Charlie.
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And man, I like, I immediately
assumed Charlie Sheen.
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But Charlie Sheen is not
balding.
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I don’t think maybe he wears a
wig, I don’t know.
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But she says she was sent to
live with a balding man named
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Charlie in a bachelor pad in
Miami.
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Here’s a quote.
We arrived at his Two in one
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restaurant and club at around
9:00 in the evening.
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It was a revolving tower called
Hot Chocolates in downtown Fort
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Lauderdale.
And now there is some suggestion
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that throughout this manuscript,
she’s using fake names and and
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places to hide the real names
and locations that were involved
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in what happened to her.
And I don’t think that’s the
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case, because if that’s what
she’s doing, she’s just
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substituting the actual names of
real people in real places
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instead.
And that’s not how that works.
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You would like make up a fake
name.
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But when she says she went to a
nightclub restaurant called Hot
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Chocolates, she says it was the
nightclub restaurant of this guy
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named Charlie.
And I looked into it.
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Sure enough, there was a Hot
Chocolates in Fort Lauderdale.
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It was a combination nightclub
restaurant.
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Here’s a 1999 quote about it
from the Florida Sun Sentinel.
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Gentlemen of a certain age,
yearning to be less so, escort
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young ladies to and fro in a
kind of ritualized dance of
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raucous superficiality.
Except that amid all the flash,
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there really is a restaurant
here, and it is often
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surprisingly good.
End Quote.
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And hey, that quote didn’t age
well, seeing as how hot
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chocolates it’s referenced in
the Epstein files.
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And for the record, there are
names mentioned in the handful
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of Sun Sentinel articles that
mention this place and none of
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them are Charlie.
They mentioned the owner.
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They mentioned like the head
chef.
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So it’s still not really clear
who she’s referring to here.
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I mean, maybe somewhere out
there who Charlie is has been
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explained.
But I will say this.
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Her ordeal with Charlie, as told
in the book, ends with him
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getting raided by the FBI.
So someone with more time for
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research can pick up that thread
if they want.
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I’m the one reading the God damn
manuscript, you know?
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So after that, she bounces
around from place to place for a
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bit and then moves on to her job
at Mar a Lago, which we talked
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about at length on the last
Epstein episode.
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And the time span here is about
two years.
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She met Ron Eppinger when she
was 13, and she first starts
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working at Mar a Lago when she
was 15.
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And we talked about the Mar a
Lago job a little bit on the
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first Epstein Files episode, and
we all know it’s been revealed
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that Virginia Roberts first came
into contact with Jeffrey
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Epstein through Jolene Maxwell.
And it was while she was working
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as a massage therapist at Mar a
Lago.
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Which I’m surprised.
Even working as a massage
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therapist at 15 is legal.
It’s probably not.
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I mean, Trump owns Mar a Lago.
What’s legal and illegal when
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it’s owned by Trump?
But she talks about meeting
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Julain Maxwell, and Maxwell asks
if she does work on the side.
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And she’s like, hey, I got a
client.
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Of course, that client is
Jeffrey Epstein.
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And one of the things to
understand here is Virginia
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Roberts again.
She comes from this very
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troubled background, and she’s
looking for an opportunity.
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She’s looking for a way out, and
this isn’t me like analyzing it.
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This is all in the manuscript.
And so her plan, like her career
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goal, was to become a licensed
massage therapist, and she tells
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this to Jelaine Maxwell.
And Jelaine Maxwell is like,
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well, I have a rich client who
just loves massages, and he’s
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looking for a personal masseuse.
Maybe you could do that on the
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side, and that extra work would
help you get closer to your goal
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of becoming a licensed massage
therapist.
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So that is Virginia Roberts
motivation initially for going
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to meet with Jeffrey Epstein,
and then she talks about the
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first meeting in pretty graphic
detail.
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It’s as horrifying as you’d
expect.
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But also, every time she meets
with Jeffrey Epstein, she’s
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getting paid 200 to $400.00.
And if you watch any of the
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Epstein documentaries where
several other of his victims are
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interviewed, that’s kind of the
thing for all of them.
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At least everyone that it was
happening to in the West Palm
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Beach area is He would go after
vulnerable girls, and he would
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use other vulnerable girls to
recruit those girls.
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And it was all about money.
And yeah, this is awful.
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Like you’re you’re really kind
of selling your soul.
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But also, how else is a girl
like you going to make money
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like this?
Pretty damn insidious, you know?
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Eventually, Epstein convinces
her to quit her job at Mar A
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Lago and work as his full time
masseuse instead.
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And again, she was 15 at the
time and her parents just let
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her go.
And when I say let her go,
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Jeffrey Epstein travels a lot.
Probably still, but he
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definitely travelled a lot back
before we all thought he was
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dead.
And so she’s not just his
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personal masseuse, she says,
travelling masseuse.
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She’s 15.
And her parents again,
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vulnerable communities.
Her parents are like, seems
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weird, but all right, whatever.
There are not a lot of
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flattering depictions of her
parents in this.
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I will tell you that eventually,
What’s happening with Jeffrey
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Epstein progresses to the point
where he starts asking Virginia
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Roberts to find other girls for
him and offers her double the
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money she was making previously.
And so most of the early part of
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the book, it’s a lot of what we
already know happened with
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Jeffrey Epstein and countless
other young girls just in, I
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think, way more detail than most
people want.
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And so I was kind of concerned
that this manuscript was just
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going to be that, and that I
wasn’t going to learn anything
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new, and I was just going to be
horrified for a few solid hours
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while I powered my way through
this.
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And then, oh man, a name I have
yet to hear in connection to
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Jeffrey Epstein popped up.
That name is Simpsons creator
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Matt Groaning.
There’s a moment where Virginia
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Roberts is talking about flying
on Epstein private plane and
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they’re going from, I believe
it’s somewhere in Northern
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California flying to LA.
And Matt Groening just happened
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to He was a friend of Epstein’s,
and he happened to need to get
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to LA also.
And so he’s on that flight, and
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Jeffrey Epstein ordered her to
give Matt Groening a foot
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massage.
Here’s a quote.
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I never turned down a client,
but when I saw the shape of his
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feet, I nearly threw up at the
thought of having to touch them.
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He had yellow crusty toenails
that even someone with a
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chainsaw would have had trouble
cutting through.
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End Quote, nice crusty reference
there.
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Fortunately, the foot massage is
all that happens.
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And then he draws a picture of
Homer and Bart for her brother
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and father.
I thought we were also in for
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some equally scandalous Stephen
Hawking details at one point
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when she brings up Epstein
Island and quote, a Harvard
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professor named Stephen.
End Quote.
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But also she talks about that
guy swimming and making fun of
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her skinny legs, which are both
things I can’t imagine Stephen
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Hawking doing.
And OK, I said on the last
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Epstein episode that Naomi
Campbell is mentioned.
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Virginia Roberts says in this
manuscript that Naomi Campbell
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was a close friend of Epstein
and Maxwell both, and that they
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travelled to France specifically
for her birthday party.
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But that is also kind of the
extent of Naomi Campbell’s
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involvement.
They just go to her birthday
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party.
So I guess Naomi Campbell is
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just guilty of having bad
friends now Richard Hilton, on
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the other hand, Father of Paris
and Nikki Hilton, is directly
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named as having been one of the
rich men that Epstein quote
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loaned Virginia Roberts out to.
And it’s alleged to have
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happened the night of Naomi
Campbells birthday party.
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Worth noting again, these are
unproven allegations written in
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a manuscript that is buried in
thousands of pages of documents.
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Also worth noting, a
representative for Richard
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Hilton issued a statement saying
she couldn’t have been referring
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to him because one, he doesn’t
own Hilton.
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That was her allegation in the
book.
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The owner of the Hilton Hotel
chain, and he also, at the time
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at least, didn’t meet that
physical description she
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provided of a short, balding man
with straggling remnants of
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curly brown hair.
She also said in a 2016
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deposition that she couldn’t
remember the name of the hotel
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chain or the hotel owner.
There’s a Reddit thread out
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there that suggests she maybe
changed the name in the book and
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she was actually referring to a
different hotel chain owner.
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But again, I don’t think that’s
how that works.
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When you’re changing names to
avoid getting sued, you don’t
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change the name to someone else
who is also a real person.
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Like if it was the owner of the
West hotel chain, you don’t
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change it to Richard Hilton to
avoid being sued.
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That’s just going to get you
sued by Richard Hilton.
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So I don’t know.
This is a very controversial
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section of this manuscript
apparently, and I don’t know.
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I don’t know, she says Richard
Hilton in the book.
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And also, if that is her way of
using code names, I really want
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to know who’s Senator George
Mitchell actually is, because
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he’s also named as being one of
the people who victimized her.
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Far less detail.
What details she does include
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are really bad, it’s just it’s
just a lot less descriptive.
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Mitchell is mentioned alongside,
quote another Nobel Prize
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winning scientist.
End Quote, whose name she can’t
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remember.
Assuming that’s also not Stephen
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Hawking.
I feel like if it was, you’d be
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like I can’t remember his name.
But let me run a few details by
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you.
I feel like you could describe
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Stephen Hawking to someone and
they’d probably be able to fill
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in the blank for you there.
Also, holy shit does George
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Clooney catch a stray in this
manuscript.
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His name comes up, and that
information will probably echo
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throughout time, along with
questions of why his name came
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up in the Epstein files.
Well, I’ll tell you why.
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It’s because apparently Jelaine
Maxwell blew him in the bathroom
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at some random event once and
spent the rest of her days
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telling anyone who would listen
all about it.
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So George Clooney is just
getting a perfectly adult
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bathroom BJ, and now he’s
forever linked to Jeffrey
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Epstein over it.
That’s harsh.
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Not long after that revelation,
she talks about the Prince
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Andrew incident.
She says it happened at Jolene
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Maxwell’s townhouse in London
and that Jeffrey Epstein was
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there.
Also, Prince Andrew and Fergie,
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not the Black Eyed Peas, one the
former British royalty one, were
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recently divorced at this point.
Important detail, she says.
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Maxwell played a quote guessing
game with Prince Andrew and
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asked him to guess how old
Virginia was and he guessed that
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she was 17.
So if all the allegations
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levelled against him are true,
including that part, he
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definitely knew what he was
doing because she was 17 by this
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point.
That’s the allegation that
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Prince Andrew, I mean, people
say Prince Andrew had sex with
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her at 17, but that’s still
statutory rape.
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So he raped her when she was 17.
So he would have definitely
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known what he was doing if this
part of the manuscript is
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accurate.
The only part that’s weird to me
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is there’s lots of details about
them going out on the town for
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dinner and dancing.
And I don’t know.
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Given what we know about the
paparazzi in London, I guess I’m
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just surprised there aren’t more
pictures because it sounds like
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Prince Andrew was getting up to
some antics during that.
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Night out.
And there’s also that now sort
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of famous passage about him
dripping with sweat when they
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left a nightclub they went to.
And he claims that’s proof that
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she’s lying because he had a
condition at the time that
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prevented him from sweating.
But when he came out publicly
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with that, people were like,
well, can you prove that?
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And he cannot.
And so there are lots of details
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about her encounter with Prince
Andrew.
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I won’t relay them here, but I
will tell you there’s a weird
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thing about this book where,
despite it being a retelling of
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instances of rape, it’s written
like a romance novel.
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Here is an example quote from
the section about Prince Andrew.
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It wasn’t hard to get him wound
up to the point where he just
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wanted to have the rest of me,
so we dried off from the cold
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and retired to my bed Chambers.
End Quote Bed Chambers.
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Again worth noting, the
journalist who was working with
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Virginia Roberts on this book is
British, and most of these
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descriptions are undoubtedly
being punched by that
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journalist.
And it is a bad look.
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Like I absolutely understand why
this was never published.
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It is baffling the way it was
written, and I don’t blame
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Virginia Roberts for that.
I blame the person ghostwriting
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it.
But also, Speaking of bad looks,
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Prince Andrew shows up a few
times throughout this, and he
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shows up for the same reason
every time.
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If this was a movie, he would be
on the post for sure.
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I think everyone knows that
French model scout Jean Luc
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Brunel has been named as an
Epstein accomplice.
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In the manuscript, Virginia
Roberts provides more details
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about his role.
He was like the international
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wing.
Epstein had Jelain, Maxwell and
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all these girls in the United
States.
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Recruiting girls there and Jean
Luc Brunel.
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He would hit the vulnerable
communities in places like South
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America and the former Soviet
republics.
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And that guy’s dead now.
And that’s awesome.
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Except for the part where all of
the details he knew about
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Epstein’s scheme, EPS scheme, if
you will, died with him.
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But hey, the news isn’t all bad
when it comes to the names
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mentioned in this book.
We kind of touched on this very
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briefly on last week’s bonus
episode, but Al Gore’s name
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comes up in this at one point.
And Virginia Roberts could not
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possibly be more effusive in her
praise of Al Gore and his
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obvious love for and dedication
to his wife, Tipper Gore.
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Which is surprising, because
Tipper Gore is kind of a fuck
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face.
But at least her and Al weren’t
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hanging out with Epstein for his
adrenochrome connections,
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apparently, you know?
But obviously Bill Clinton comes
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up also.
And for one thing, it gets
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really confusing right away.
Here’s a quote.
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He is the only president in the
world to be dismissed from his
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role as a world leader because
he was caught with his trousers
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around his ankles and had the
stain to prove it, publicly
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humiliating his wife and
himself.
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He retired from his title, but
not from his lifestyle.
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End Quote.
And I mean that happened, but it
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didn’t happen.
That is clearly the writing of
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someone with little to no
knowledge of American history or
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politics.
Like someone Googled Bill
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Clinton, saw the word impeached
and just assumed, OK, well,
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yeah, my memory serves me
correct.
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Bill Clinton was kicked out of
office.
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But no, he wasn’t.
He was he.
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He was impeached, but he stayed
in office.
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He didn’t leave office.
And so again, I get why this
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book wasn’t published.
It is very weirdly written in a
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lot of spots.
Also, she doesn’t directly
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accuse Clinton of anything.
She just says they were hanging
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out at Epstein Island.
You know, as one does just a
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casual trip to Epstein Island
and that everyone was joking and
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laughing.
Hillary Clinton wasn’t there.
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That’s why Hillary’s name comes
up in this because someone
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mentioned she wasn’t there.
She says Bill Clinton was being
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a little flirty, but then
everyone just split up and went
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their separate ways at the end
of the night.
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Granted, she does say Bill
Clinton walked off with two
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women on his arm, but hey,
still, walk in’s not a crime.
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So the turning point in all of
this finally comes when Jeffrey
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Epstein asked Virginia Roberts
to have his child.
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She was 18 by this point, so
that’s a thing he could have
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gotten away with legally.
And this, like, snaps her out of
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it a little bit.
Her 19th birthday was
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approaching very soon, and she
had a very valid concern that
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she was going to be locked into
this life that she was living
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forever.
So she agrees to have Jeffrey
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Epstein’s child, but she kicks
the can down the road a bit by
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saying she wanted to wait until
she had the professional massage
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certification she was seeking.
And again, that’s the whole
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motivation here.
I know it’s it’s going to seem
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unthinkable to people, but the
way Virginia Roberts describes
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her situation, she could have
technically left at any point.
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But she was a troubled kid from
a troubled background and
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working as Jeffrey Epstein’s.
Quote, personal masseuse, End
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Quote.
She viewed that as the best
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opportunity she had to improve
her station in life.
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Jolene Maxwell and Jeffrey
Epstein promised her that
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working for him would result in
her getting that professional
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massage certificate, and they
did from time to time provide
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her with the training she would
need to get that.
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But that was obviously few and
far between, and the abuse was
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the main thing.
So along those lines, when she
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says she wants to get that
certification before she has
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Epstein’s baby, about a week
later Jeffrey Epstein calls her
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into his office and tells her
that she is going to Thailand
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for an 8 week Thai massage
course.
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So he’s trying to expedite that
process.
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So now the clock is really
ticking.
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Like Jeffrey Epstein wants to
have a child with this child and
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so he sends her off to Thailand
to get the massage certificate
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she wants before she agrees to
this.
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And that is when she finally
leaves, She gets to Thailand.
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She’s partying.
She’s living her life.
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She’s actually learning the
things she wanted to learn.
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She falls in love with a Muay
Thai fighter named Robbie and
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they get married unexpectedly.
She calls Epstein, tells him
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that she just got married.
Jeffrey Epstein says have a good
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life and hangs up the phone and
she moves to Australia.
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It is about as happy of an
ending as a manuscript like this
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can have, and I immediately
regret using the phrase happy
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ending in this moment.
Anyway, that’s our episode.
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I told you it was going to be a
shorter one.
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It’s because there was no one
else here to be horrified with
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me.
We linked to the Epstein files
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on the last Epstein Files
episode.
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So hey, if you want to go read
this, do it, I guess.
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But I don’t recommend it.
It’s not going to be good for
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you.
It’s not good for anyone.
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Anyway, that’s the episode.
Thank you all for sticking it
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out with me.
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we do.
436
00:28:03,160 –> 00:28:06,080
And even if you don’t, hey, we
love you all the same.
437
00:28:06,240 –> 00:28:07,880
Thanks.
Let’s get out of here.
438
00:28:07,880 –> 00:28:10,480
Adam, say goodbye.
Goodbye, everybody.
439
00:28:10,600 –> 00:28:20,040
We love you, people of Earth.
Your planet has to be destroyed.
440
00:28:30,000 –> 00:28:31,800
Your planet has to be destroyed.