Conspiracy! The Show 312: Are We Headed For a New Red Scare?

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I.
Hey everybody, welcome to

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Conspiracy the Show.
I’m your host Adam Todd Brown,

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joining me as Co host this week.
Connor’s here.

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How’s it going, man?
Doing good, man.

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I thought I was going to get to
introduce myself and I was going

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to be Adam Todd Pink, but maybe
next time.

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I mean I can just edit around it
and make it sound like you said

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that.
Well, you see, because if

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everyone gets to pick their
colors, everyone wants to be

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Adam Todd Black.
So I’m Adam Todd Pink and I’m

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also very pink, so.
Yeah, I would agree with that.

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Also joining us, returning guest
Dante Wimberley.

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How’s it going?
How you guys doing?

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Excited to be back.
We are excited to have you.

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We’re talking about the Red
Scare, the first Red Scare.

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There have been a few in this
country and around the world.

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But we’re focusing on the
podcast today, right?

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Oh, is there a podcast called
the Red Scare?

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Oh yeah, it’s it’s very popular.
Oh yeah, I’ll edit that out.

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Please don’t mention other
podcasts.

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I forgot I sounded do not
compete clause before I entered

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this zoom meeting.
So the Red Scare, if people

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aren’t familiar, the most basic
way to describe it was a

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movement in this country that
was meant to sniff out

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communists and radicals.
And what that usually meant was

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people who wanted to join labor
unions and people who wanted

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better living and working
conditions and things of the

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like.
It was more a means of crushing

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dissent than anything, as stuff
like that usually is.

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I mean to be fair, those are
some pretty anti government

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ideas.
Livable working conditions,

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that’s not.
Yeah, this government for sure.

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I don’t know why I said that,
like most governments, but you

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get it’s sometimes cited as
happening from 1919 to 1920, but

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it actually starts a little
earlier than that, 1917 I would

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say.
I’m in.

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I’m into the early stuff.
Yeah, when it’s more bluesy and

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raw, Hell yeah.
Yeah, weird that the Red Scare

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got bluesy, but it did.
And what I find really

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interesting about this, I’ve
been reading a lot about the

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Office of Naval Intelligence.
I’ve been doing episodes about

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the various intelligence
agencies of the world and

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started with Naval Intelligence.
And in reading about this, they

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were hugely involved in the
first Red Scare.

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What Red scares me is how close
we are to something like this

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happening again.
And like, not in that close,

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like, oh, we better fix this or
it’s going to our grandkids are

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going to rise.
It feels like a year away, maybe

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six months, something like that.
And when are they going to come

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for the dissenting podcast?
I mean, the podcast was a we’ve

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already started choosing sides
of this election.

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We we saw him thank Joe Rogan in
his friggin acceptance speech.

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But when?
When is someone going to notice

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that Adam Todd Brown has been
calling this shit the the John

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Madden of the world ending for
the last 10 years?

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Yeah, I’ve kind of given up on
talking about modern politics,

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but here we are.
I mean this is still history

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stuff, but I feel like it ties
into today.

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I feel like Trump’s State of the
union was really, it’s two

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things really struck me.
I was seeing highlights about

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the TikTok ban.
So when the Senate hearings when

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the CEO for TikTok was
Singaporean was talking about

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it.
I forget Tim Cotton, senator

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from Texas maybe kept asking the
dude like, have you or have you

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ever been a member of the
Chinese Communist Party?

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And the dude is just like, no,
I’m Singaporean, I’m from

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Singapore.
I was in the military in

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Singapore.
So are you Chinese or Japanese?

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Yeah, essentially it’s, you
know, and it just like it’s back

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to like, yeah, the the hearings
of like, have you or have you

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ever not been a member of the
Communist Party?

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When did you stop beating your
wives?

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Yeah, You know, I think about
Trump’s State of the Union

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speech and I think 2017, where
he rails against, I guess, the

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last messages of the communist
countries, Venezuela, Cuba,

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North Korea, and it’s just very
sentimental, like old Red Scare

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rhetoric of stomping out the
communist.

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We don’t have any good bad guys
anymore.

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If those are the bad, like, oh,
Venezuela and Cuba scary, you

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know, that’s not that’s not
selling any John Claude Van

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Damme movies.
Like North Korea is kind of

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creepy and cool and scary.
I’ll give you that one.

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But Cuba and Venice, we got to
have a better axis of evil than

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that.
I mean there was an Amazon

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original series about war with
Venezuela, one with John

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Krasinski where he plays spy.
Oh, the Tom Clancy.

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Yeah, the Tom Clancy thing.
And Tom Clancy’s a fucking

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military propagandist too.
Who would have thought the only

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thing Jim from The Office loved
more than Pam was Raytheon?

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Let’s talk a little more about
what things were like leading up

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to the Red Scare before we get
back to modern times.

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Even before the Red Scare
started, the Office of Naval

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Intelligence, they were our
first intelligence agency.

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They’ve been around the longest
and they’re kind of the boots on

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the ground sniffing out radicals
and extremists and communists.

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During the first Red Scare, and
even before the Red Scare

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started, they were on the hunt
for radicals.

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But at that point, it mostly
just meant people trying to

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unionize at the plants where we
made ships and bombs and

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whatnot.
And then the Russian Revolution

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of 1917 happens.
Lenin takes power, Communist

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Party starts to rise in Russia
where like almost at the end of

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World War One by that point.
So nationalism is just off the

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charts in the United States at
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And that Russian Revolution just
set something off in.

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I feel like it more set
something off in the mind of the

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American government where they
were like, oh, we can exploit

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this to.
Whether it’s a new TikTok dance

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or a new lever of control for
the deep state to exercise upon

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you, you kind of have to see
someone do it first and then you

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go.
It’s possible.

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You know, like poor Rodney
Mullen did the first flat ground

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Ollie.
Was anyone ever going to jump on

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a fucking skateboard?
It was.

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It’s impossible.
It makes no sense to even try to

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do it.
And so at the end of the day,

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the Red Scare, it wasn’t so much
about smoking out communists, it

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was again, about crushing
dissent.

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I have to be honest, if I’m the
US government, I kind of see the

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like it’s specifically stopping
unionization at plants that make

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ships and bombs.
That’s kind of AI.

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Don’t know a fulcrum point you
could exploit for the fucking

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strike.
There is a pretty impactful like

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probably against American
National interest to have a

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union there.
Just thinking, you know, like

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I’m evil.
Yeah, I mean, that was their

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whole.
Thinking, I mean, I think

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stopping people from unionizing
it to fucking bakery is kind of

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lame ass.
But you know, I guess it’s this

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whole slippery slope deal.
Yeah, that’s why I could never

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make it for the evil shadow
government Adam.

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I got.
I got too big of a heart.

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Too big of a heart to let people
unionize that worship factor.

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Yeah, too, Too much compassion.
That makes sense.

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So what really kicks things into
gear along the lines of cracking

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down on labor unions is a big
general strike that happens in

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Seattle. 60,000 workers across a
bunch of different unions all

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walk out at the same time.
All 1500 people in Seattle with

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Jobs walked out immediately.
I see it in my head as just a

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bunch of tech douche bags living
large after Apple stock, but I

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don’t know.
Or just like lazy hippies.

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I don’t know where I was going
with that joke.

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So the press in particular was
really quick to label this

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strike in Seattle a communist
insurrection of sorts brought on

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by foreign influences.
There was a group that had been

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set up like a year prior called
the Overman Committee, that was

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meant to look for German
radicals and troublemakers in

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this country.
And as soon as that strike

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happened the next day, their
mission shifted to labor unions,

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basically.
That’s funny.

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That’s kind of like when they
outlawed the KKK and then they

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started the NRA the next day.
Oh, did that happen?

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I saw him in Michael Moore
documentary Adam must have

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Happened.
At least it happened in 2001.

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It might not be true now, but in
2001 it was.

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So they issued this report about
Bolshevism and all of the

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horrors that are coming our way
because they’re associating

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labor unions with the Bolshevik
revolution.

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It must be that these dirty
communists are coming into the

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country and making our workers
unhappy when they were happy

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before.
Which is.

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Kind of unfair because being in
a labor union is cool, but it’s

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not as cool as being a Bolshevik
revolutionary.

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I mean, that’s cool.
You actually drank the blood of

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the rich.
You did it, man.

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They say that the Bolsheviks are
going to come to this country

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and impose atheism, seize
newspapers, shut down banks.

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They also referred to Russians
as assassins and Mad Men, human

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scum, stuff like that.
And again, I feel like we’re

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back at this point in history,
but now we’re just talking

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immigrants mostly.
I mean, there’s several groups

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out there that are getting
demonized in different ways, but

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it feels like in terms of the
dehumanizing talk and the

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animals, criminals, stuff like
that, it’s definitely immigrants

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getting it right now.
We sort of had, I guess, like

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with eight years of Obama, I
guess we all thought we were

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going to be like polite forever.
Do you remember that when like

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shit was like diplomatic and
polite and you were like, oh,

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that was fairly reasonable.
What do you said about that?

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And I don’t know.
I don’t think it’s like, I don’t

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think it’s coming back.
I like it.

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Like I this is what I was trying
to say is it’s like we, it feels

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like we’re we we’re back on to
like full blown scapegoating is

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now like open.
It used to be you had to kind of

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like say the quiet part loud and
like kind of allude to it and

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sort of be polite about it, be a
polite racist, fascist, whatever

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the fuck.
And now you can just be like,

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it’s a fucking Mexicans dude.
Like they just, it’s open

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season.
Yeah.

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I mean, especially in terms of
politics and elected officials

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talking that way seems to have.
I mean, it’s, it’s the thing

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now.
Well, it turns out saying the

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loud part loud gets you more
votes than saying the quiet part

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like, you know what I mean?
Like, are we that surprised?

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I feel like communist and left
is organisers have kind of been,

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I don’t want to say central
always, but definitely like as

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far as radicals go, definitely
pushing labor unions to a point

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of confrontation.
I feel like that isn’t that is a

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history, not even necessarily
like government propaganda, but

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just like the way that leftist
and communist organized, they

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are in the in the organization’s
kind of pushing a confrontation

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with the government in a way.
And as far as the scapegoating,

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like, yeah, I don’t know.
It’s very Germans, 1920s,

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nineteen 30s, very similar
rhetoric across the board in

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terms of like the
dehumanization, like you said.

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So yeah, yeah, absolutely.
Especially how fervent anti

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communist the Nazis were.
So along with other subversives

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like communists and leftists
were also a part of the

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Holocaust.
People identified as like

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communists.
Leftists were very much like,

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you know, Hitler’s like National
Socialism, but also very much

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anti Bolshevism, anti communism.
One of the things I’ve

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legitimately worried about when
it comes to Trump in these mass

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deportations.
We know when Hitler like really

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took power, he had the Night of
the Long knives where he

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literally just rounded up all
his opposition and had him

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killed.
What if in the course of these

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mass deportations, Trump just
rounds up his enemies too and is

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like, sorry, fucking fight it
out in court, we feel like

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there’s reason to deport you.
Like he’s going to send ICE to

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Rachel Maddow’s house.
Fucking maybe.

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You think Ice wouldn’t go if he
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Yeah.
You think ICE wouldn’t go?

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They would go.
That’s yeah, they would take the

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call.
ICE would absolutely deport

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Rachel Maddow.
They would argue about who got

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to do it and they’d be like,
don’t fair.

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I got so many guys last month.
This is fucked up.

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There’s a in the Newenberg
child, there’s a lot of

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discussion about how regular,
average everyday Germans could

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like turn around and do really,
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And there’s a lot of takeaways
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But a lot of people talk about
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kind of doing their job.
Like I, I may not have

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ideologically agree with the
Nazis, but like I was just, I

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just had to do my job.
I just had to follow orders.

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So it really begs the question
of, you know, a lot, I mean, a

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lot of people that work for ICE,
a lot of people that work for

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Border Patrol are children of
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immigrants.
Like a lot of people of color

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are in the military and all
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So it begs the question of like,
what will force these people to

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just say, no, I’m not doing
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You’re telling me to deport all
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You’re telling me to like mass
incarcerate these people in

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camps.
And I’m just no, I’m, I refuse

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to do this.
So I feel like that would be the

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big question for the people that
actually like have to enforce

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it.
You know what would make all the

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ICE guys quit?
I think, I think this would

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actually do it.
If you told them they had to be

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nice to the immigrants, I think
they would.

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They would all be like Oh my
God, just this job is going to

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be impossible.
Yeah, what worries me is I’m

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assuming when mass deportations
happened before, it’s probably a

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little less diverse of a bunch
carrying them out, but no one’s

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refused it so far.
We’ve done mass deportations a

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few times.
And I mean, there’s always been

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opposition, but not enough.
Not enough to stop.

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We will be rounding up the trans
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I call it a misdeportation.
I do think it’s coming for trans

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people just as much as
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I will say 1 facet of American
history where deportations were

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frowned upon to the point that a
lot of them were stopped was the

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Red Scare.
They tried to deport thousands

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of people over this and somehow
the I think the secretary of

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Labor stepped in and got a bunch
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So in the end they rounded up
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which is, you know, 10s of
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numbers, but still.
Well damned, there should be

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like a service that really like
conveniently does the inflation

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rate for the tragedy like this
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population.
This was actually like 5

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Hindenburg’s.
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This is a weird way to say it.
One of my favorite disasters.

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Anna Nicole Smith, the
Hindenburg.

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Well, the thing about the
Hindenburg, if you go back and

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watch footage of that, most of
the people survived because it

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was the balloon on top that was
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the passengers.
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they were the ones who got out
last as the balloon was

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collapsing to the ground.
But in fact, anyway, back to the

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Red Scare.
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supporters, especially vocal
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facing stuff like this soon.
That is a thing.

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Stephen Miller, who is kind of
the architect of these

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deportation plans, he has flat
out said that in interviews

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because he’s talked about the
people that are going to get

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deported, criminals first, blah,
blah, blah.

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And then eventually he gets to
and, you know, maybe some people

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who are here legally.
And when the interviewer asked

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him what he meant, he said the
people in the streets supporting

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Hamas.
So if what’s happening in Israel

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turns into widespread protests,
I think we’re going to see

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people getting fucking rounded
up.

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And I don’t know, I don’t know.
I don’t know what will happen

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after that, but.
I guess I’m trying to think like

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what’s so what’s the criteria?
Like you’re at this a public

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event and we come in with a
clown car and a bunch of cops

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and get you.
Or is it like you made these

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Facebook posts?
I guess I think we’re all

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speculating anyway.
It’s impossible to know, but I

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don’t know.
It’s what with a lot of this

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stuff, it’s I’m sort of like,
where is the marker for, OK,

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you’re in the group, you’re
getting kicked up, Where’s the

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sweet spot with supporting
Palestine is where I’m trying,

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you know what I mean?
Like.

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Yeah, I think about the Super
prison and I forget whether it’s

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Honduras or or Guatemala.
I think it’s Honduras.

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Bukele the president where he he
just kind of yeah, rounded up

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6070 thousand people and it’s
going to be a thing where it’s

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like it’s not going to really
matter the criteria is going to

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be so like LAX, it’s just going
to be just round people up and

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put them in camps on masks like
oh, you’re a criminal.

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It’s like a it’s kind of like
the War on Terror, right where

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it’s like if you’re a fighting
age in a particular population,

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you’re considered an enemy
combatant.

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So even if you’ve had no
interaction with any sort of

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quote, UN quote, terrorist cells
or even Hamas, right, Anybody

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that’s of a certain age is
considered a part of Hamas

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because like they’re in a
besieged population because of

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like resistance.
So yeah, there isn’t going to be

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a particular like levels just
like, okay, well, you’re of this

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age and you’re, this will just
take you in anyway, just to say

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we, we’re rounding folks up.
So I feel like a lot of it’s

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going to be like performative,
even though it’s going to ruin

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people’s lives for sure, but
it’s going to be for the soul

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sake of performance to say, oh,
look what we’re doing, look what

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we’re doing.
Like we’re kicking people out.

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We’re kicking people out.
Logistically, it’s just like,

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not that feasible.
Do you think it’s like when when

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you get a new boss at work and
then they start laying down the

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law just to like prove they can
make you do shit?

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I mean, all authorities like
pretend it’s like I’m, I’m

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pretending to like hold this
authority, but I don’t really

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have it and I have to rely on
other people to carry it out.

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And it’s just like how many
people get told something.

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It’s like, OK, let me find the
cheapest, easiest, like most LAX

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way to do this.
How can I follow orders without

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really following orders?
How can I do this?

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It’s all pretending.
Everybody’s pretending to do the

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thing I’m.
Pretending to be on a podcast

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right now.
So let’s get back to the events

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of the Red Scare for a minute.
In 1919, the US is in heavy

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turmoil domestically.
There’s mail bombs getting sent

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to politicians, labor strikes
left and right, riots, fucking

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racial and otherwise happening
all the time.

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Mayday 1919 was a big turning
point that year.

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Labor movement supporters
gathered on Mayday to celebrate

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the labor movement, and they had
been doing that peacefully for

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years before this.
And somehow, if you can believe

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it, Mayday 1919 ended up getting
violent, which I’m sure had

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nothing to do with the police
presence and how they acted at

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that event, which was very
fucking aggressive, obviously.

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And then Red Summer happens.
It’s a series of race riots in

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the summer and early fall of
1919.

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So this is not when Taylor Swift
dropped her album Red.

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The time was.
Very different.

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Very different.
‘Cause that was my red.

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You can.
This can be your red summer.

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I know when my red summer was,
and that was my red summer.

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How much of what happened then
the Mayday thing and Red Summer

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both.
What are the chances that the

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government wanted that to happen
and that they might have been

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the agitators behind it?
With a lot of the Red Summer

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stuff, it was white dudes in
military uniforms burning down

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black neighborhoods and killing
people.

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Is this when they bombed?
When?

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What was that city they bombed?
It was a prominent black city

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with, like, a lot of black-owned
businesses.

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And they’d like, like, dropped
bombs from a plane.

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I think you think about Tulsa,
Yes, 1921, I think was Tulsa.

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Yeah, so right around the same.
Yeah, I was just wondering if it

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was part of it.
I think about that a lot, but I

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also hear it from the other
side, like anytime there’s a

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protest, anytime there’s
anything like there may be

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agitators for sure there are
people who are a part of a

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protest that may escalate, but
it’s really hard to say in terms

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of race riots.
Like how much agitation do white

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folks in the 1920s really need?
You don’t.

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There’s not a lot to push on,
right?

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There’s not really that.
It doesn’t take a lot to kind of

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push that button.
So while I I can suspect that,

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yeah, I can see a, a government
being instigators, it doesn’t

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happen out of nowhere.
The anger and the violence and

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the hatred, the sentiments are
already there.

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The kindling is there.
So the government may be, oh, I

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can just like the match.
And then from there, it’s like

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now it’s a fire.
Two things that I wish more than

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anything I had filmed, but I, I
swear to God I saw these with my

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human eyes.
I had two different Black Lives

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Matter protests in LA when all
that was happening.

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One was a brand new, freshly
unwrapped with like the plastic

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wrap undone pallet of bricks.
Like right in the middle of the

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protest bad, like the most
convenient protest.

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OK, so that’s the power of the
bricks.

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And then right across the street
from the Grove, there’s got to

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be video footage of this
somewhere because there’s a

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zillion fucking people and it
was insane.

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There was a cop car flipped
upside down and on fire.

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Maybe it wasn’t flipped upside
down, I think it was just on

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fire.
But the cop car looked like the

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fucking prop pop car from
Ghostbusters 2 or some shit.

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It was like a movie prop.
So I don’t know, I’ve seen this

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shit with my own fucking eyes.
Yeah, there was a thing at one

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of the Santa Monica protests
where there was what absolutely

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looked like a used cop car that
had been repainted just sitting

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in front of, I think, Santa
Monica College with a sign that

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said free in the window.
And people were like, don’t

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touch that fucking car.
Bait car car there.

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My friend’s dad used to do the
bait car that would like make a

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car that looks like, you know,
really easy to seal a 94 Camry

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and then people get in it, doors
locked from the outside

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electronically.
The cops come get you, you know,

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pretty predatory, fucked up
thing, but funny TV show.

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That was a funny show.
The guy would be like, I got to

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go to work in the morning and
he’d be like, I don’t think

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you’re going to make it.
Yeah, the cops, they want to be

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able to point to the regular
sensibilities of people to say,

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oh, look at these violent
protesters.

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I think it just takes people to
kind of take a step back and

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say, oh, they burned that thing
down.

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Like that sucks, but it’s like,
you know, whatever stuff,

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sometimes stuff burns.
Like there’s agitation, There’s

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like, yeah, K, even even with
the 1920s protest and before

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that we talk about the unrest.
That’s just kind of a part of

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it.
Is it the government pushing it?

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For sure.
But like, that’s also one of the

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things that comes with unrest is
like property destruction.

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That’s kind of part for the
course.

431
00:22:59,880 –> 00:23:05,520
Yeah, that seems to be a big
push right now is criminalizing

432
00:23:05,520 –> 00:23:09,600
protest in general.
I’m sure everyone else saw it

433
00:23:09,600 –> 00:23:14,000
also, but I saw the Reagan movie
in theaters because I had to

434
00:23:14,000 –> 00:23:18,800
watch it for a podcast.
And that is a running theme

435
00:23:18,800 –> 00:23:22,440
throughout that movie, which is
protesters.

436
00:23:22,680 –> 00:23:25,320
Yeah, they’re exercising their
constitutional rights or

437
00:23:25,320 –> 00:23:27,560
whatever, but we also got to
crush them.

438
00:23:27,720 –> 00:23:33,040
They are kind of the problem,
and I just think about how many

439
00:23:33,200 –> 00:23:37,600
fucking Trump supporters went to
the Reagan movie and just got

440
00:23:37,600 –> 00:23:39,360
that.
They’ve already had it drilled

441
00:23:39,360 –> 00:23:42,160
into their heads already.
Yeah, they’re predisposed to,

442
00:23:42,160 –> 00:23:45,640
like, see dissent as like, bad.
Like you’re not supposed to

443
00:23:45,880 –> 00:23:48,640
speak out against Daddy.
Then what the fuck was January

444
00:23:48,640 –> 00:23:51,360
6th though?
You know, Like what they what

445
00:23:51,360 –> 00:23:52,760
the fuck?
What do you call that?

446
00:23:53,320 –> 00:23:56,000
Patriotic protest.
Yeah, they’re protecting.

447
00:23:56,000 –> 00:23:58,240
They’re protecting the sanctity
of, like, America.

448
00:23:58,240 –> 00:24:01,760
Like, yeah, when they do it,
they’re protecting America.

449
00:24:01,880 –> 00:24:04,160
When they do it, they’re
fighting the good fight.

450
00:24:04,320 –> 00:24:06,840
For them, at least, they’re,
like, being righteous.

451
00:24:07,000 –> 00:24:09,720
But whenever they see other
people speaking out or

452
00:24:09,720 –> 00:24:12,560
protesting, it’s like, oh, I
have to protect the status quo

453
00:24:12,720 –> 00:24:16,240
because I’m like a fascist
little dickhead and I just love

454
00:24:16,880 –> 00:24:21,160
sucking on phallus.
So there was also a cold strike

455
00:24:21,240 –> 00:24:26,760
in 1919 that might have been the
final straw in terms of public

456
00:24:26,760 –> 00:24:31,320
opinion when it came to labor
unrest because coal is pretty

457
00:24:31,320 –> 00:24:35,600
important at best point in
history, especially in December.

458
00:24:35,760 –> 00:24:39,200
And there was a lot of bad kids
around Christmas that year too,

459
00:24:39,200 –> 00:24:42,720
so huge demand.
Yeah, that puts a strain on the

460
00:24:42,720 –> 00:24:46,840
supply for sure.
And this coal strike happens and

461
00:24:46,920 –> 00:24:49,720
Americans are like losing access
to coal.

462
00:24:49,800 –> 00:24:54,320
People are fucking cold.
And the media jumps in and

463
00:24:54,400 –> 00:24:58,480
starts calling this like a
Russian Revolution, an

464
00:24:58,480 –> 00:25:01,920
insurrection.
So people are all fucking up in

465
00:25:01,920 –> 00:25:06,360
arms and into the fray.
I mean, by 1919, this guy had

466
00:25:06,360 –> 00:25:09,680
been into the fray already.
But I haven’t mentioned him yet.

467
00:25:09,960 –> 00:25:14,160
Attorney General A Mitchell
Palmer, who is arguably the key

468
00:25:14,160 –> 00:25:18,240
figure in the first Red Scare in
terms of being the government

469
00:25:18,240 –> 00:25:21,680
face of it.
When he loses his reputation is

470
00:25:21,680 –> 00:25:26,560
when this kind of end.
What he did is he responded to

471
00:25:26,560 –> 00:25:30,320
this coal strike by invoking
something called the Lever Act,

472
00:25:30,480 –> 00:25:35,200
which was a law that was meant
to prevent people from hoarding

473
00:25:35,240 –> 00:25:38,200
and profiteering supplies during
wartime.

474
00:25:38,320 –> 00:25:41,800
But the way it was worded was
just that it was a crime to,

475
00:25:41,800 –> 00:25:45,760
quote, interfere with the
production or transportation of

476
00:25:45,960 –> 00:25:48,080
necessities.
You’re an essential worker,

477
00:25:48,080 –> 00:25:50,520
bitch.
Yeah, kind of make that.

478
00:25:50,520 –> 00:25:52,920
Coal.
Yeah, that was kind of his

479
00:25:52,920 –> 00:25:56,600
argument was, listen, you’re
violating the Lever Act by being

480
00:25:56,600 –> 00:25:59,560
on strike.
And they tried to stick it out

481
00:25:59,560 –> 00:26:03,520
for a little bit, but that did
essentially break that strike.

482
00:26:03,520 –> 00:26:05,800
Like the guy who organized it
was going to fucking go to

483
00:26:05,800 –> 00:26:08,280
prison.
Basically, oh wow, he wouldn’t

484
00:26:08,280 –> 00:26:12,080
go to prison for the ’cause.
I mean, I guess that’s a decent

485
00:26:12,080 –> 00:26:14,160
point.
Can they make you like, I don’t

486
00:26:14,160 –> 00:26:16,880
care how many cops there are, if
it’s 60,000 people on strike,

487
00:26:16,880 –> 00:26:18,640
like what?
They’re going to arrest 60,000

488
00:26:18,640 –> 00:26:19,920
people.
They’re going to bring in new

489
00:26:19,920 –> 00:26:22,680
coal miners and like train
60,000 new coal miners.

490
00:26:22,840 –> 00:26:25,920
They did threaten to do that.
I’ve played a lot of Minecraft

491
00:26:25,920 –> 00:26:28,960
and pretty easy to get coal kind
of all over the place.

492
00:26:29,160 –> 00:26:30,760
Doesn’t take very long to mind
the brick.

493
00:26:31,040 –> 00:26:32,560
I always have like too much of
it.

494
00:26:32,720 –> 00:26:35,400
Frankly, I don’t really see what
the issue is.

495
00:26:36,600 –> 00:26:40,440
And so a year before that coal
strike, the US passed the

496
00:26:40,440 –> 00:26:46,240
Immigration Act of 1918, which
was basically an update to

497
00:26:46,240 –> 00:26:50,640
previous immigration laws that
made deporting undesirable

498
00:26:50,640 –> 00:26:55,280
aliens much easier.
The next year, the sitcom Alf

499
00:26:55,280 –> 00:26:58,680
was tragically cancelled before
it’s really had a chance to come

500
00:26:58,680 –> 00:27:00,280
into its own.
That was a good show.

501
00:27:00,600 –> 00:27:04,360
It’s a fucking great show.
It expanded the definition of

502
00:27:04,400 –> 00:27:08,880
anarchist to include pretty much
anyone who is remotely

503
00:27:08,880 –> 00:27:13,360
associated with a group or
individual that the government

504
00:27:13,400 –> 00:27:17,040
considered communist or
otherwise subversive.

505
00:27:17,240 –> 00:27:21,400
And this again, this I’ve, we’ve
kind of talked about this part

506
00:27:21,440 –> 00:27:23,920
already, but Trump didn’t even
pass it.

507
00:27:23,920 –> 00:27:26,000
Biden.
At least under the Biden

508
00:27:26,000 –> 00:27:30,480
administration, a bill was just
passed that will let the

509
00:27:30,480 –> 00:27:35,200
president label nonprofit
organizations that are deemed to

510
00:27:35,200 –> 00:27:38,760
be terrorist affiliated.
You can designate them as

511
00:27:38,760 –> 00:27:43,240
terrorist organizations.
Any any Palestinian thing at

512
00:27:43,240 –> 00:27:46,600
all, you know, it’s like trying
to fucking get cell phone

513
00:27:46,600 –> 00:27:50,320
chargers to kids without faces.
It’s like rap terrorist.

514
00:27:50,520 –> 00:27:54,560
Yeah, it’ll be exactly that.
And we kind of saw that after

515
00:27:54,560 –> 00:27:58,760
9/11 with the War on Terror.
There were groups that, if you

516
00:27:58,880 –> 00:28:00,440
like, donated money to them
people.

517
00:28:00,440 –> 00:28:03,440
Bro you couldn’t buy hummus at
the grocery store without people

518
00:28:03,440 –> 00:28:05,720
looking at you like you were a
piece of shit.

519
00:28:05,960 –> 00:28:08,920
Yeah, kind of.
And yeah, like this is a thing.

520
00:28:09,120 –> 00:28:12,120
Like Connor said, with
Palestine, I could absolutely

521
00:28:12,120 –> 00:28:15,640
see this coming back to the
United States really, really

522
00:28:15,800 –> 00:28:17,840
soon.
It seems like people are hungry

523
00:28:17,840 –> 00:28:20,880
for this kind of thing.
So the Georgia thing, like I

524
00:28:20,880 –> 00:28:23,240
know there was like there were
big protests in Georgia around

525
00:28:23,240 –> 00:28:26,200
the Stock Cop city movement and
you got the governor coming on

526
00:28:26,240 –> 00:28:30,400
TV like local news calling
people like anarchists and

527
00:28:30,400 –> 00:28:33,000
subversives and like outside
agitators.

528
00:28:33,000 –> 00:28:34,560
That’s always the word they like
to use.

529
00:28:34,920 –> 00:28:37,480
So like we kind of see this
rhetoric already being circled

530
00:28:37,480 –> 00:28:39,160
in the in the mouths of
politicians.

531
00:28:39,320 –> 00:28:41,400
So I could definitely see that
type of rhetoric going

532
00:28:41,400 –> 00:28:43,600
nationwide.
Like anybody who says there’s

533
00:28:43,600 –> 00:28:45,640
anything remotely against the
government, oh, you’re a

534
00:28:45,640 –> 00:28:47,160
anarchist, Oh, you’re a blah,
blah, blah.

535
00:28:47,400 –> 00:28:51,920
As a justification for just like
crazy a mouse of force or just

536
00:28:51,920 –> 00:28:55,560
like, you know, bring returning
of death squads to murder

537
00:28:55,560 –> 00:28:58,600
political prisoners.
Yeah, I could see a thing

538
00:28:58,600 –> 00:29:02,080
happening, like justice reform
will happen someday.

539
00:29:02,280 –> 00:29:05,720
I mean, not like totally.
But when I say that, I mean

540
00:29:05,720 –> 00:29:08,760
they’re going to come up with
other ways to make money off of

541
00:29:08,880 –> 00:29:10,880
arresting people and charging
people with shit.

542
00:29:11,040 –> 00:29:15,560
And I could see justice reform
right now in a way where, oh,

543
00:29:15,560 –> 00:29:19,120
let’s let’s move to like more
home confinement and shit like

544
00:29:19,120 –> 00:29:22,160
that and empty out these prisons
a little bit.

545
00:29:22,280 –> 00:29:25,760
And it’ll be shit like this that
refills those fucking prisons.

546
00:29:26,080 –> 00:29:29,400
I feel like the United States,
people in the United States,

547
00:29:29,400 –> 00:29:32,560
would love to think this
government couldn’t possibly.

548
00:29:32,760 –> 00:29:34,480
Oh, what?
You’re going to round up every

549
00:29:34,480 –> 00:29:38,000
fucking person who posted Free
Palestine on the Internet?

550
00:29:38,160 –> 00:29:40,040
Yeah, they might.
They fucking might.

551
00:29:40,280 –> 00:29:43,480
Do you know how many people we
have in prison right now?

552
00:29:43,640 –> 00:29:47,080
Millions of fucking people.
How many people do we have in

553
00:29:47,080 –> 00:29:50,160
like, shadow prison, in like
Guantanamo Bay prisons?

554
00:29:50,160 –> 00:29:52,280
You know, that’s probably a few
thousand at least, like.

555
00:29:52,600 –> 00:29:55,560
Black sites.
Yeah, there’s so much room at

556
00:29:55,560 –> 00:29:57,800
Guantanamo.
There’s only 20 people being

557
00:29:57,800 –> 00:30:00,480
held there now, at best.
I think it’s less than that.

558
00:30:00,520 –> 00:30:04,200
So, yeah, Guantanamo is mostly
empty in the I mean, argue with

559
00:30:04,200 –> 00:30:06,200
the weather.
If you get sent there, that’s

560
00:30:06,200 –> 00:30:07,760
that part’s going to at least be
nice.

561
00:30:09,640 –> 00:30:12,880
This is Adam’s like, you know
how in succession Tom is like in

562
00:30:12,880 –> 00:30:15,560
the last season, kind of like
shopping around which prison he

563
00:30:15,600 –> 00:30:18,080
wants to go to if he gets sent
there for his white collar

564
00:30:18,080 –> 00:30:20,520
crime.
Adam’s like when I get deemed a

565
00:30:20,520 –> 00:30:24,920
dissident towards the states,
I’m hoping I can get a spot in

566
00:30:24,920 –> 00:30:26,280
Guantanamo.
Obviously.

567
00:30:26,320 –> 00:30:30,280
I mean, that’s my, that’s my my
reach school.

568
00:30:31,160 –> 00:30:35,040
So a year removed from the
Immigration Act of 1918,

569
00:30:35,200 –> 00:30:39,400
Attorney General Palmer is
getting all this heat for not

570
00:30:39,400 –> 00:30:42,360
having crack down on radicals
enough.

571
00:30:42,520 –> 00:30:47,760
And this led to what became to
be known as the Palmer Raids was

572
00:30:47,760 –> 00:30:53,680
a series of police actions,
November 1919 and January 1920,

573
00:30:53,760 –> 00:30:58,000
where police and federal agents
rounded up thousands of

574
00:30:58,000 –> 00:31:02,600
suspected leftists and radicals,
all without the aid of social

575
00:31:02,600 –> 00:31:06,760
media, GPS, the Internet, any of
that mostly based on their

576
00:31:06,760 –> 00:31:11,120
political affiliation as opposed
to having committed crimes or

577
00:31:11,120 –> 00:31:14,800
acts against the country.
I definitely couldn’t see any

578
00:31:14,800 –> 00:31:17,360
administration that might round
people up based on their

579
00:31:17,360 –> 00:31:19,360
political affiliation.
This country?

580
00:31:19,360 –> 00:31:22,560
No, no way.
They use the the software where

581
00:31:22,880 –> 00:31:24,720
if you ever made a political
donation.

582
00:31:24,880 –> 00:31:27,960
So I made a donation to Bernie
Sanders in like 2016.

583
00:31:28,400 –> 00:31:31,160
And so like, even still, I get
like emails because of it.

584
00:31:31,160 –> 00:31:33,800
So there’s absolutely a list of
like everybody’s political

585
00:31:33,800 –> 00:31:35,640
donation.
So that’s definitely going to be

586
00:31:35,640 –> 00:31:38,400
like a tool used for the mass
roundups.

587
00:31:38,600 –> 00:31:41,960
When they come for the Marianne
Williamson voter, there will be

588
00:31:41,960 –> 00:31:43,640
nobody left to speak out.
And.

589
00:31:44,360 –> 00:31:47,120
We’ve talked about the
possibility of there being like

590
00:31:47,120 –> 00:31:52,160
a social credit system in this
country that replaces the credit

591
00:31:52,160 –> 00:31:55,520
scores we have now.
The way that works in China, a

592
00:31:55,520 –> 00:31:58,520
big part of it is how mouthy are
you about the government?

593
00:31:58,640 –> 00:32:03,400
If you speak out against the
government a bunch, fucking good

594
00:32:03,400 –> 00:32:07,480
luck renting a nice apartment.
That could absolutely be a thing

595
00:32:07,600 –> 00:32:09,280
here.
Embrace poverty.

596
00:32:09,440 –> 00:32:10,920
They have to let us know when it
starts.

597
00:32:10,960 –> 00:32:13,600
If all the info retroactively
counts, we’re all fucked.

598
00:32:14,200 –> 00:32:15,360
Oh yeah, yeah.
We got it.

599
00:32:15,360 –> 00:32:17,400
We got to have a chance to set
our own algorithm.

600
00:32:17,400 –> 00:32:20,280
Here correct your behavior.
Yeah, yeah, we all, we need a

601
00:32:20,280 –> 00:32:24,640
chance to have that MSNBC Joe
Scarborough interview where you

602
00:32:24,640 –> 00:32:28,040
have Trump in and you’re like,
listen, we’re cool, right?

603
00:32:28,200 –> 00:32:30,160
I’m, I’m not saying anything
anymore.

604
00:32:30,360 –> 00:32:34,960
MSNBC just flat out said that’s
why they had that meeting with

605
00:32:34,960 –> 00:32:36,960
Trump.
They’re afraid of retribution.

606
00:32:37,120 –> 00:32:39,160
And why the fuck wouldn’t they
be?

607
00:32:39,320 –> 00:32:42,360
Yeah, really, a lot of people
should be, especially when your

608
00:32:42,360 –> 00:32:44,480
face is just begging for
revenge.

609
00:32:44,480 –> 00:32:48,880
Like Joe Scarborough just got
this awful fucking douchey face.

610
00:32:48,880 –> 00:32:53,400
So, you know, to see the woe or
tragedy befall him, it’s just

611
00:32:53,400 –> 00:32:56,040
great.
Yeah, I find it hard to have

612
00:32:56,040 –> 00:32:59,840
sympathy for someone who has
rumors swirling around that he

613
00:32:59,840 –> 00:33:04,480
may be murdered one of his aides
and then jokes about it to Don

614
00:33:04,520 –> 00:33:06,800
Imus.
At least have better judgement

615
00:33:07,000 –> 00:33:10,080
than that.
I like my political creeps who

616
00:33:10,080 –> 00:33:12,160
don’t get caught.
Thank you.

617
00:33:12,640 –> 00:33:14,200
The Kennedys covered that shit
up.

618
00:33:14,480 –> 00:33:16,760
You didn’t hear Boo about
Chappaquiddick for months.

619
00:33:16,960 –> 00:33:19,720
Yeah, you know, Ted Kennedy had
a dog named Splash.

620
00:33:21,440 –> 00:33:23,360
That rocks.
You wrote a kids book about it

621
00:33:23,560 –> 00:33:24,640
Those.
Kennedys man.

622
00:33:25,440 –> 00:33:28,480
Yeah.
The number one presidential dog

623
00:33:28,480 –> 00:33:30,200
is, was, and always will be
Checkers.

624
00:33:30,200 –> 00:33:32,840
I’m sorry, checkers.
I’m not familiar with

625
00:33:32,840 –> 00:33:35,800
presidential dog history.
Checkers was Nixons dog and he

626
00:33:35,800 –> 00:33:38,360
gave a speech called the
checkers speech where he was

627
00:33:39,400 –> 00:33:41,440
talking about all these
political like, you know,

628
00:33:41,440 –> 00:33:45,280
whatever shit that he got from
being in office and he’s like I

629
00:33:45,320 –> 00:33:47,680
live in a shitty house and blah
blah, blah, blah, blah.

630
00:33:48,120 –> 00:33:51,200
And I got those dog checkers and
you won’t take that for me

631
00:33:51,200 –> 00:33:53,280
either.
I would argue the best

632
00:33:53,440 –> 00:33:57,720
presidential dog of all the of
all time is the one Biden had

633
00:33:57,720 –> 00:33:59,800
that kept biting Secret Service
agents.

634
00:34:00,080 –> 00:34:02,600
I was thinking about major is a
very close second.

635
00:34:02,960 –> 00:34:06,240
Yeah, I like a dog that hates an
undercover cop.

636
00:34:06,560 –> 00:34:10,159
That’s great.
This dog hates Spooks and narcs.

637
00:34:11,800 –> 00:34:17,239
So after they round up all of
these radicals and leftists in

638
00:34:17,320 –> 00:34:23,440
1919 and 1920, it culminates in
deportations via a ship

639
00:34:23,520 –> 00:34:28,120
nicknamed the Soviet Art.
And the public and media both

640
00:34:28,120 –> 00:34:31,960
just enthusiastically support
this shit on account of all the

641
00:34:31,960 –> 00:34:34,920
strikes and unrest.
Once protests start happening,

642
00:34:34,920 –> 00:34:38,199
we’ve seen it with protests that
have happened recently.

643
00:34:38,360 –> 00:34:41,040
They carry on long enough and
people are just like, can I just

644
00:34:41,040 –> 00:34:45,679
fucking drive to work without
having to do a crowd please.

645
00:34:45,880 –> 00:34:51,480
And if you’re not political like
that shit weighs on you and it’s

646
00:34:51,480 –> 00:34:54,880
going to be easy to sway those
people to the side of how about

647
00:34:54,880 –> 00:34:57,880
we put these mother fuckers on a
boat and send them to Finland,

648
00:34:58,040 –> 00:35:02,080
which is exactly what happened.
They sent them to Finland.

649
00:35:02,120 –> 00:35:03,880
What does Finland have to do
with it?

650
00:35:04,200 –> 00:35:06,800
Finland, I believe, was the
country that would take them.

651
00:35:06,920 –> 00:35:10,680
They tried to send them to
Latvia first, but on the bright

652
00:35:10,680 –> 00:35:15,120
side, some of the people rounded
up refused to be deported and

653
00:35:15,120 –> 00:35:17,600
they were sent to a
concentration camp in New York

654
00:35:17,760 –> 00:35:21,560
called Camp Upton.
So that’ll never happen again.

655
00:35:21,760 –> 00:35:23,720
I can’t, but radicals is
dangerous man.

656
00:35:23,720 –> 00:35:26,600
I don’t know if if I was Trump I
would not want to put all the

657
00:35:26,600 –> 00:35:29,240
radicals in one place.
That seems like maybe not the

658
00:35:29,240 –> 00:35:31,200
best idea.
I like your approach.

659
00:35:31,200 –> 00:35:33,960
Reverse Psychology.
I wouldn’t want to put all the

660
00:35:33,960 –> 00:35:36,360
radicals in one spot.
It seems like, I don’t know,

661
00:35:36,360 –> 00:35:39,680
they might start talking to each
other and building networks and

662
00:35:39,680 –> 00:35:42,440
like, I don’t know, organizing
God.

663
00:35:42,680 –> 00:35:44,880
I mean, but if you’re
exterminating on the next kind

664
00:35:44,880 –> 00:35:47,320
of, yeah.
Let people have this, Conor,

665
00:35:47,600 –> 00:35:49,760
goddamn it.
It would be a cool like series

666
00:35:49,760 –> 00:35:53,200
of children’s books like The
Hunger Games, like the fucking

667
00:35:53,200 –> 00:35:57,400
dissident camp getting together
to stick it to the old Dean or

668
00:35:57,400 –> 00:35:59,800
whatever.
The Dean of the concentration

669
00:35:59,800 –> 00:36:01,520
camp.
Why can’t we just be headed for

670
00:36:01,520 –> 00:36:04,880
that kind of dystopia where
there’s like really problematic

671
00:36:04,880 –> 00:36:07,640
Olympics every year and
otherwise we’re just fucking

672
00:36:07,800 –> 00:36:10,200
chilling?
I don’t know man, probably

673
00:36:10,200 –> 00:36:12,080
because we all.
Problematic Olympics every few

674
00:36:12,080 –> 00:36:13,960
years already.
Maybe there’s not room.

675
00:36:14,240 –> 00:36:17,200
My theory is that it’s God
punishing us for how much we all

676
00:36:17,200 –> 00:36:19,440
masturbate.
Oh, 100%.

677
00:36:19,600 –> 00:36:22,920
So he’s part of it.
This is another thing that I

678
00:36:22,920 –> 00:36:26,200
found interesting about the Red
scare was red flag laws.

679
00:36:26,400 –> 00:36:31,960
In 1919, Kansas enacted a red
flag law, which meant displaying

680
00:36:31,960 –> 00:36:35,840
a red flag, which is a common
symbol among like leftist

681
00:36:35,840 –> 00:36:41,160
groups, was outlawed and very
shortly thereafter, 24 more

682
00:36:41,160 –> 00:36:45,440
states quickly followed suit.
I don’t know if people have

683
00:36:45,680 –> 00:36:50,960
heard the recordings and
ramblings of Justice Alito and

684
00:36:50,960 –> 00:36:56,240
his wife, but his wife has
straight up said like the pride

685
00:36:56,240 –> 00:37:00,520
flag should be banned or there
should be like a counter flag

686
00:37:00,520 –> 00:37:05,200
that you can hang on your door.
Anti pride Shame.

687
00:37:05,680 –> 00:37:07,720
I feel like the the American
flag kind of serves that

688
00:37:07,720 –> 00:37:10,080
purpose, no?
Oh yeah, 100%.

689
00:37:10,640 –> 00:37:15,680
I have a neighbor who put up two
Trump flags in front of his

690
00:37:15,680 –> 00:37:17,440
house.
I live in a townhouse and

691
00:37:17,440 –> 00:37:20,400
there’s like an HOA.
And I feel like the HOA was

692
00:37:20,400 –> 00:37:23,440
like, come on, dude.
We, we don’t allow flags like

693
00:37:23,440 –> 00:37:26,040
that.
And because like two days later,

694
00:37:26,040 –> 00:37:28,200
they were just American flags
now.

695
00:37:28,720 –> 00:37:29,440
Same.
Same shit like.

696
00:37:29,960 –> 00:37:31,560
Yeah, exactly.
I remember.

697
00:37:31,560 –> 00:37:34,120
I Yeah, you can tell.
You can tell when there’s a

698
00:37:34,120 –> 00:37:39,400
house that’s either super
patriotic in their way of

699
00:37:39,400 –> 00:37:42,320
framing it or just, you know,
they have guns.

700
00:37:42,480 –> 00:37:45,760
I remember I saw two houses side
by side once.

701
00:37:45,960 –> 00:37:49,400
One had an American flag and one
had an Oakland A’s flag.

702
00:37:49,680 –> 00:37:53,120
I was like, they both got guns.
There’s guns in both of those

703
00:37:53,120 –> 00:37:54,000
fucking houses.
That’s.

704
00:37:54,880 –> 00:37:59,520
Funny, I saw a Trump flag in my
the Trump flags in my hometown

705
00:37:59,520 –> 00:38:03,840
are insane.
They’re they’re all like 2024

706
00:38:04,080 –> 00:38:08,600
the revenge tour.
Let’s butt fuck those democons.

707
00:38:09,320 –> 00:38:13,200
Yeah, this one was pretty
normal, but it was gigantic.

708
00:38:13,280 –> 00:38:15,880
It’s huge.
I’m trying to do this thing

709
00:38:15,880 –> 00:38:19,040
where it’s like, I don’t hate
Trump supporters because they

710
00:38:19,080 –> 00:38:21,640
that’s what feeds them.
Like the feeling that they are

711
00:38:21,640 –> 00:38:25,520
hated is what like gets them the
so I’m like not, not in the

712
00:38:25,520 –> 00:38:27,920
sense of like I’m trying to take
away their enjoyment by like,

713
00:38:27,920 –> 00:38:31,160
not like hating them like and
just kind of being sad.

714
00:38:31,160 –> 00:38:33,520
I’m just like, oh, actually
you’re just a idiot.

715
00:38:33,680 –> 00:38:35,160
Damn, I kind of feel bad for
you.

716
00:38:35,360 –> 00:38:37,960
That was kind of my thinking
about the Trump flag.

717
00:38:37,960 –> 00:38:42,240
Like I didn’t say shit about it.
And I mean, one big reason I

718
00:38:42,240 –> 00:38:45,280
wouldn’t say anything about it
is half the fucking country

719
00:38:45,280 –> 00:38:47,680
voted for the guy.
You’re going to see Trump flags

720
00:38:48,080 –> 00:38:50,400
like that’s it’s going to be a
thing.

721
00:38:50,640 –> 00:38:53,520
But I think I think you’re
right, Like you, you feel bad

722
00:38:53,520 –> 00:38:56,920
for all the people in the, in,
in Springfield when the monorail

723
00:38:56,920 –> 00:39:00,320
guy comes to town, takes all
their money and leaves, you

724
00:39:00,320 –> 00:39:02,640
know, like it like it’s, I
don’t, you know, I’m not, not

725
00:39:02,680 –> 00:39:05,480
you got to take pity on them.
But it’s like hate is the wrong

726
00:39:05,480 –> 00:39:07,720
choice.
I guess it’s a it’s a grift.

727
00:39:07,800 –> 00:39:10,080
Like that’s that’s ultimately
what it and it’s like, that’s

728
00:39:10,080 –> 00:39:12,960
the thing about Hitler where the
question of like whether he

729
00:39:12,960 –> 00:39:15,520
himself was incompetent.
Like Hitler was probably very

730
00:39:15,520 –> 00:39:17,960
incompetent.
But there are so many people

731
00:39:17,960 –> 00:39:20,800
within the Nazi apparatus who
like genuinely believed in it

732
00:39:20,800 –> 00:39:24,160
and who were genuinely competent
that they were able to execute

733
00:39:24,160 –> 00:39:27,000
the Holocaust kind of
irrespective of like whatever

734
00:39:27,160 –> 00:39:29,640
Hitler has going on.
So that’s why I think with Trump

735
00:39:29,640 –> 00:39:33,480
is like Trump is probably just
an idiot, like a idiot grifter.

736
00:39:33,480 –> 00:39:36,760
He ran again to stay out of
prison, like, and he’s just kind

737
00:39:36,760 –> 00:39:38,360
of going up.
But there are people who like

738
00:39:38,640 –> 00:39:41,720
ideologues, the ideologues in
the party that will like carry

739
00:39:41,720 –> 00:39:45,040
out with ruthless efficiency is
the part where I’m just like,

740
00:39:45,040 –> 00:39:46,600
wow, that’s the kind of the sad
part.

741
00:39:46,840 –> 00:39:49,800
But for people that kind of
believe in Trumpism as like a

742
00:39:49,800 –> 00:39:52,280
thing that’s going to rescue
them out of what Bernie, what is

743
00:39:52,280 –> 00:39:54,480
Bernie Sanders label economic
anxiety.

744
00:39:54,720 –> 00:39:56,800
It’s just like, it’s just like
sad.

745
00:39:56,800 –> 00:39:58,880
It’s sad as fuck.
Like you, you’re a fucking,

746
00:39:59,240 –> 00:40:02,720
you’re a fucking dumb ass.
Yeah, the notion that Trump is

747
00:40:02,720 –> 00:40:05,080
just going to show up and start
handing out jobs, it’s.

748
00:40:05,880 –> 00:40:08,560
Like, well, I mean, if you
believe this and like you just

749
00:40:08,640 –> 00:40:12,000
have like a shit load of tech
stocks, like, yeah, probably.

750
00:40:13,000 –> 00:40:15,480
Yeah.
Like the yeah, I do think he’s

751
00:40:15,480 –> 00:40:20,240
got a vision for me, a Bitcoin.
Holder a Bitcoin ’cause I’m I’m

752
00:40:20,240 –> 00:40:23,400
invested in the grift like I
need I need the grift to work

753
00:40:23,400 –> 00:40:26,440
out like I have my life savings
in the grift like that’s and

754
00:40:26,440 –> 00:40:29,760
that’s what the fucking the
that’s the whole in cell Jordan

755
00:40:29,760 –> 00:40:32,600
Peterson.
What’s the other dudes Andrew

756
00:40:32,600 –> 00:40:35,880
Tate like their whole fucking
thing is like, yeah, it’s just a

757
00:40:35,880 –> 00:40:37,560
grift.
I need to sell people a

758
00:40:37,560 –> 00:40:40,920
emptiness that I can feel.
I need to sell people an

759
00:40:40,920 –> 00:40:43,040
emptiness.
Yeah, I’m selling you an

760
00:40:43,040 –> 00:40:45,920
emptiness so I can then like
sell you the cure for it, like.

761
00:40:46,120 –> 00:40:48,600
You didn’t know that immigrants
were attacking your life and

762
00:40:48,600 –> 00:40:51,400
ruining your whole fucking like
quality of living.

763
00:40:51,560 –> 00:40:54,000
Gay people are the reason you
can’t get laid.

764
00:40:54,000 –> 00:40:55,560
Women are the reason that you
can’t.

765
00:40:55,600 –> 00:40:56,920
You know what I’m saying?
It’s just like.

766
00:40:57,000 –> 00:40:59,480
When the fellas are in charge,
they’ll have to give us some of

767
00:40:59,480 –> 00:41:01,160
that clam.
Who’s with me?

768
00:41:02,360 –> 00:41:04,400
I think I saw that.
I think I saw that in the JD

769
00:41:04,400 –> 00:41:07,480
Vance speech once.
No, JD Vance, like literally JD

770
00:41:07,480 –> 00:41:09,760
Vance is like the perfect
encapsulation of that.

771
00:41:09,760 –> 00:41:11,480
Like.
Another thing I found

772
00:41:11,480 –> 00:41:16,560
interesting reading up on the
Red Scare was how much not only

773
00:41:16,560 –> 00:41:20,240
the media got behind it, but the
film industry too.

774
00:41:20,400 –> 00:41:25,240
And I do wonder if there will be
a shift at some point where if

775
00:41:25,280 –> 00:41:28,960
mass deportations and things
like that start happening, are

776
00:41:28,960 –> 00:41:32,720
we just going to get like
enthusiastic op eds from the

777
00:41:32,720 –> 00:41:36,840
fucking New York Times and
Washington Post about how it’s

778
00:41:36,840 –> 00:41:39,560
the right thing to do and they
support it?

779
00:41:39,720 –> 00:41:41,760
Probably.
I mean, people will fuck as a

780
00:41:41,760 –> 00:41:43,520
writer.
Writers will write whatever you

781
00:41:43,520 –> 00:41:47,040
fucking pay them to write.
It’s like that simple.

782
00:41:47,200 –> 00:41:49,840
And if they won’t, then another
guy will is pretty good and and

783
00:41:49,840 –> 00:41:52,040
if he’s not available, there’s
this chick and she can do it

784
00:41:52,040 –> 00:41:54,560
too.
Well, that, yeah.

785
00:41:54,560 –> 00:41:57,640
And there’s also, I’m sure
they’ve stopped doing it now,

786
00:41:57,640 –> 00:42:04,040
but the CIA is, has been known
to reach out to media outlets

787
00:42:04,200 –> 00:42:08,600
and, you know, get them on their
side and get them to talk about

788
00:42:08,600 –> 00:42:11,520
or not talk about the things
that they want.

789
00:42:11,640 –> 00:42:15,400
There was one actual project
called Project Mockingbird got

790
00:42:15,520 –> 00:42:19,520
uncovered in like 1979.
That was exactly that proof of

791
00:42:19,520 –> 00:42:21,680
concept.
And it’s also like you think

792
00:42:21,680 –> 00:42:23,680
they stopped doing it like.
Yeah, there’s no way.

793
00:42:23,720 –> 00:42:25,440
Project Mockingbird was very
successful.

794
00:42:25,920 –> 00:42:28,680
Yeah, I mean, if anything,
another outfit would be doing it

795
00:42:28,880 –> 00:42:31,840
aside from the CIA.
You just send someone else out.

796
00:42:32,040 –> 00:42:34,080
You think they trade hustles
every once in a while just to

797
00:42:34,080 –> 00:42:35,920
keep the conspiracy guys
guessing?

798
00:42:36,200 –> 00:42:39,160
Like, hey, you know what, FBI,
You’ve had sexual blackmail

799
00:42:39,160 –> 00:42:40,840
domestically for the last 30
years.

800
00:42:40,960 –> 00:42:44,800
Let’s do that at the CIA and
we’ll give you guys naval

801
00:42:44,800 –> 00:42:45,920
smuggling.
Cool.

802
00:42:46,400 –> 00:42:47,960
Could be.
But I’m serious about that.

803
00:42:47,960 –> 00:42:49,600
Fucking right is the right.
What you paying the right?

804
00:42:49,600 –> 00:42:52,240
I was writing the reward show,
you know, the Ukraine war broke

805
00:42:52,240 –> 00:42:54,920
out and for some reason they
thought we needed to say

806
00:42:54,920 –> 00:42:56,600
something about this on this
fucking award show.

807
00:42:57,000 –> 00:43:00,480
So I, I don’t know, I don’t
remember what I wrote, but I

808
00:43:00,480 –> 00:43:02,720
ended up just writing whatever
they wanted, like, and it was

809
00:43:02,720 –> 00:43:04,160
just something I totally didn’t
agree with.

810
00:43:04,160 –> 00:43:07,160
Like I don’t support this war.
I don’t support the Ukrainian

811
00:43:07,160 –> 00:43:08,240
people.
I don’t fucking, I don’t know

812
00:43:08,240 –> 00:43:11,480
what the fuck is happening, but
I was, I was being paid quite

813
00:43:11,480 –> 00:43:13,040
handsomely to say whatever they
wanted me to say.

814
00:43:13,040 –> 00:43:14,240
So.
Yeah.

815
00:43:14,400 –> 00:43:16,400
So I’ll do it.
There’s lots of people who will

816
00:43:16,400 –> 00:43:18,960
take that right.
A pro immigration, pro

817
00:43:18,960 –> 00:43:22,480
deportation op-ed job if it’s
offered to him.

818
00:43:22,680 –> 00:43:24,720
Yeah, I’d probably I would.
I would hope that I draw the

819
00:43:24,720 –> 00:43:27,440
line at that one, but you never
know.

820
00:43:27,600 –> 00:43:29,520
Yeah, somebody, you got to have
a line.

821
00:43:29,600 –> 00:43:32,360
You got to have a line.
Like, totally like, but as a

822
00:43:32,360 –> 00:43:33,600
journalist, like what?
What?

823
00:43:33,880 –> 00:43:36,040
What is the money going to cost
you personally?

824
00:43:36,040 –> 00:43:38,800
Like, you can say you don’t give
a fuck about it and I just want

825
00:43:38,800 –> 00:43:41,000
the money, but it’s like, what’s
on the other side of that?

826
00:43:41,400 –> 00:43:44,000
The New York Times at least.
Like, I don’t fucking know.

827
00:43:44,000 –> 00:43:47,160
Like liberal, like what I
expected from I don’t know.

828
00:43:47,160 –> 00:43:49,200
Who’s the right wing paper?
The Wall Street Journal,

829
00:43:49,200 –> 00:43:51,440
Absolutely.
Oh yeah, The Wall Street Journal

830
00:43:51,480 –> 00:43:55,040
100% if Joe.
Scarborough is even fucking

831
00:43:55,320 –> 00:43:57,320
well, he’s a flip flopper.
He’s done this before.

832
00:43:57,320 –> 00:43:59,480
But I’m saying, Pete, there’s
some of these Democrats are

833
00:43:59,480 –> 00:44:00,880
packing it in, man.
I mean, I don’t know.

834
00:44:00,880 –> 00:44:02,640
I could see the New York Times
do it.

835
00:44:02,640 –> 00:44:04,440
Like, I don’t think they’re that
scrupulous.

836
00:44:05,080 –> 00:44:07,000
Yeah, no.
They’re not, I mean,

837
00:44:07,000 –> 00:44:09,640
intellectual.
I feel like celebrities may have

838
00:44:09,640 –> 00:44:12,280
a different relationship with
it, but you would think like a

839
00:44:12,280 –> 00:44:14,440
journalist on some level is an
intellectual.

840
00:44:14,600 –> 00:44:17,280
And like, with that comes a
level of integrity.

841
00:44:17,280 –> 00:44:20,200
Like I’m not just going to
completely, completely sell out.

842
00:44:20,200 –> 00:44:22,600
Like I, I got to get a job
somewhere serious.

843
00:44:22,600 –> 00:44:24,600
I don’t know.
Yeah, maybe I’m.

844
00:44:24,600 –> 00:44:27,120
Maybe I’m being naive?
I mean, it’s probably like

845
00:44:27,120 –> 00:44:31,480
anything else in that it’s both.
There’s, there’s legitimate

846
00:44:31,480 –> 00:44:34,040
journalists out there and there
are journalists who will write

847
00:44:34,040 –> 00:44:37,400
whatever the fuck you want them
to write for the right amount of

848
00:44:37,400 –> 00:44:38,880
money.
Like it’s going to be like

849
00:44:38,880 –> 00:44:41,680
anything else.
And you know, we just got to get

850
00:44:41,680 –> 00:44:44,720
rid of the honest ones.
Then this country will be great.

851
00:44:44,920 –> 00:44:47,160
And we’re going to do it with a
series of camps.

852
00:44:48,520 –> 00:44:53,080
We are so the beginning of the
end for the Red Scare and Palmer

853
00:44:53,200 –> 00:44:59,040
both was this big warning he
issued about Mayday 1920.

854
00:44:59,200 –> 00:45:02,800
He had the fucking president
issue at first and then he goes

855
00:45:02,800 –> 00:45:05,760
in front of the people a couple
days later and it’s like,

856
00:45:05,760 –> 00:45:10,000
listen, fucking Mayday 2020,
baby, buckle up.

857
00:45:10,160 –> 00:45:13,360
Stay inside.
It’s going to be chaos, there’s

858
00:45:13,360 –> 00:45:16,120
going to be protest, there’s
going to be acts of terror.

859
00:45:16,360 –> 00:45:19,040
Just you wait, America, you’ll
see.

860
00:45:19,200 –> 00:45:23,960
And then Mayday 1920 came and
went without incident and people

861
00:45:23,960 –> 00:45:27,880
were like all right, God dammit,
this guy is talking nonsense.

862
00:45:28,040 –> 00:45:31,160
That part I don’t think will
happen if some shit like this

863
00:45:31,160 –> 00:45:36,400
jumps off again in this country.
I don’t think it will lose favor

864
00:45:36,400 –> 00:45:40,120
with the public that quickly.
I think America will be better

865
00:45:40,120 –> 00:45:42,040
at it.
Yeah, I think there was a a

866
00:45:42,040 –> 00:45:45,240
decent amount of people on both
sides of these various protests

867
00:45:45,240 –> 00:45:47,840
the last four or five years that
kind of just wanted to fight the

868
00:45:47,840 –> 00:45:49,720
cops a little bit.
Yeah.

869
00:45:49,880 –> 00:45:51,320
I don’t know.
I think they, like, I think

870
00:45:51,320 –> 00:45:52,920
people are a lot more fucking
down there.

871
00:45:53,040 –> 00:45:55,800
Like, you know, it’s been a
whole 100 years since this

872
00:45:55,800 –> 00:45:57,920
happened and it’s like nothing,
none of this shit has gotten

873
00:45:57,920 –> 00:46:01,400
better at all like.
Well, what I mean is I think the

874
00:46:01,400 –> 00:46:06,080
government now has more means to
put down dissent than it did in

875
00:46:06,080 –> 00:46:09,560
1920 for sure.
We’ve got more facilities, we’ve

876
00:46:09,560 –> 00:46:13,920
got more cops, got more weapons,
everything they fucking need to

877
00:46:13,920 –> 00:46:16,000
put down mass protests.
They got it.

878
00:46:16,440 –> 00:46:17,960
But do you think that’s going to
discourage?

879
00:46:18,160 –> 00:46:21,840
I mean, it’s not going to
discourage people, but as it

880
00:46:22,160 –> 00:46:25,520
goes on, how many people are
going to be left to fucking

881
00:46:25,680 –> 00:46:29,120
dissent?
Like again, you mentioned Dante,

882
00:46:29,120 –> 00:46:32,360
you mentioned the dictator.
It’s El Salvador is where

883
00:46:32,480 –> 00:46:35,600
Buchelli is.
And I looked it up.

884
00:46:35,640 –> 00:46:37,640
I didn’t like pull that off my
head.

885
00:46:37,880 –> 00:46:39,000
I could have just looked it up.
I’m.

886
00:46:39,160 –> 00:46:41,720
Sorry, no, it’s fine.
But yeah, I mean, he rounded up

887
00:46:41,720 –> 00:46:45,840
70,000 people in El Salvador.
We got more people to round up

888
00:46:45,840 –> 00:46:48,080
here, but we can do it if he can
do it.

889
00:46:48,440 –> 00:46:52,000
What an inspiration that guy is.
No, you’re, you’re joking.

890
00:46:52,000 –> 00:46:54,720
But like the era of mass
incarceration was ushered in

891
00:46:54,720 –> 00:46:56,160
because they call it super
prison.

892
00:46:56,480 –> 00:46:59,120
Yeah.
Like, so he he he is ushered in

893
00:46:59,120 –> 00:47:01,600
like a new era of mass
incarceration that we’re going

894
00:47:01,600 –> 00:47:05,160
to see like across the board,
like just just put him in camps

895
00:47:05,160 –> 00:47:07,600
just because The Who the public,
what is the public going to do?

896
00:47:07,600 –> 00:47:10,800
It’s like they’re going to cry.
Like it’s the kind of in a way,

897
00:47:10,800 –> 00:47:13,360
in a way El Salvador is a
different situation because like

898
00:47:13,360 –> 00:47:16,920
the public is willing to abide
by it because there’s been a lot

899
00:47:16,920 –> 00:47:21,200
of just like instability, crime
or whatever, what have you,

900
00:47:21,200 –> 00:47:23,360
whatever.
But I feel like with protesting

901
00:47:23,360 –> 00:47:25,680
might be the same situation like
people are, because people are

902
00:47:25,680 –> 00:47:27,680
going to fight, people are going
to be in desperate economic

903
00:47:27,680 –> 00:47:29,560
situations.
So either people are going to

904
00:47:29,560 –> 00:47:31,880
like protest or people are going
to commit crimes.

905
00:47:31,880 –> 00:47:33,400
And it’s probably going to be a
bit of both.

906
00:47:33,600 –> 00:47:38,200
So people on mass will probably
want some relief from it.

907
00:47:38,600 –> 00:47:40,400
So they would definitely like,
yeah, just throw people in

908
00:47:40,400 –> 00:47:42,040
camps.
If they break the law, throw

909
00:47:42,040 –> 00:47:43,840
them in camps.
If you try to steal something,

910
00:47:44,120 –> 00:47:45,920
throw them in a camp.
If you protest and throw a

911
00:47:45,920 –> 00:47:48,040
Molotov cocktail, throw them in
a camp.

912
00:47:48,040 –> 00:47:49,560
Get rid of them.
That’s the purpose of

913
00:47:49,560 –> 00:47:53,160
incarceration is to remove
elements from society as opposed

914
00:47:53,160 –> 00:47:54,800
to confronting it.
Yeah.

915
00:47:54,960 –> 00:47:59,120
And I think when it comes to the
government, I think both sides

916
00:47:59,120 –> 00:48:02,200
want that.
They want to be able to crush

917
00:48:02,200 –> 00:48:05,960
dissent in that way.
And Trump is just the perfect

918
00:48:05,960 –> 00:48:10,040
face for it because when it’s
all over, everyone can just

919
00:48:10,040 –> 00:48:14,360
point and go, oh, look what that
fucking evil dictator did.

920
00:48:14,880 –> 00:48:16,560
It’s like it was going to
happen.

921
00:48:16,800 –> 00:48:20,480
It’s going to fucking happen.
And this is this is Fox News.

922
00:48:20,920 –> 00:48:25,680
While while this is going on in
the future, mass incarceration

923
00:48:25,840 –> 00:48:30,120
what the prisoner self
pleasuring problem means for the

924
00:48:30,120 –> 00:48:34,880
municipal facilities that
America’s humane migration

925
00:48:34,880 –> 00:48:39,480
camps. 100% so I think that’s
the end of the episode.

926
00:48:39,480 –> 00:48:43,920
Do we have any final thoughts on
the Red Scare or the State of

927
00:48:44,200 –> 00:48:46,320
America?
As a government employee, you

928
00:48:46,320 –> 00:48:50,160
still have to press pledge a
pledge fealty to the state of

929
00:48:50,160 –> 00:48:52,080
Georgia.
If you work for the government

930
00:48:52,080 –> 00:48:54,720
in Georgia, you can’t be a
member of the Communist Party

931
00:48:54,760 –> 00:48:58,280
and you have to like pledge
loyalty to the US Constitution

932
00:48:58,280 –> 00:49:00,840
and the Georgia Constitution.
I don’t know if other papers

933
00:49:00,840 –> 00:49:03,320
have loyalty oath.
As a federal employee, you also

934
00:49:03,320 –> 00:49:04,680
still have to spur a loyal
loyalty oath.

935
00:49:05,040 –> 00:49:07,240
I don’t know if loyalty oaths
came out of the first one or the

936
00:49:07,240 –> 00:49:10,080
second one, but like loyalty
oaths are still like on the

937
00:49:10,080 –> 00:49:12,880
books right now.
Well, that’s a thing.

938
00:49:13,040 –> 00:49:19,560
If you read Project 2025, one of
their big initiatives is

939
00:49:20,000 –> 00:49:24,600
basically purging civil service
jobs of people who aren’t loyal

940
00:49:24,600 –> 00:49:27,240
to the government.
And by that they mean loyal to

941
00:49:27,240 –> 00:49:29,880
Trump.
And that’s like one of their

942
00:49:29,880 –> 00:49:35,120
main goals, so that I think it’s
kind of written in stone that

943
00:49:35,120 –> 00:49:38,080
that’s coming for.
I don’t, I don’t think they’re

944
00:49:38,080 –> 00:49:40,440
going to be able to do a lot of
this stuff until Trump’s like

945
00:49:40,440 –> 00:49:43,840
third term actually.
So I’m I’m not really super

946
00:49:43,840 –> 00:49:46,400
worried.
Yeah, yeah, maybe halfway

947
00:49:46,480 –> 00:49:49,760
through the 4th, something like
that, when he’s 106 and living

948
00:49:49,760 –> 00:49:53,960
off all the adrenochrome he
stole from the A ball that he

949
00:49:53,960 –> 00:49:55,800
rounded up and put in
Guantanamo.

950
00:49:56,040 –> 00:49:58,640
And he’s like, totally senile,
but he’s still like the emperor

951
00:49:58,640 –> 00:50:00,520
of the known universe.
And he’s like, let me tell you

952
00:50:00,520 –> 00:50:02,360
about when I invented
McDonald’s.

953
00:50:03,920 –> 00:50:06,480
Ah, good times, good times.
It’s going to be a fucking

954
00:50:06,480 –> 00:50:07,640
roller coaster for.
Sure.

955
00:50:07,840 –> 00:50:12,600
Long live Emperor Trump.
Yeah, but that is our episode.

956
00:50:12,600 –> 00:50:15,520
Connor Dante, thank you both for
doing the pod.

957
00:50:15,640 –> 00:50:19,600
This upbeat moment feels like
the perfect time to plug some

958
00:50:19,600 –> 00:50:21,760
shit.
I have a solo podcast called In

959
00:50:21,760 –> 00:50:23,560
Broad Daylight that you should
listen to.

960
00:50:23,760 –> 00:50:28,720
Also, by the time this is out,
there will be some like holiday

961
00:50:28,720 –> 00:50:33,120
specials running in terms of
subscribing for bonus episodes

962
00:50:33,160 –> 00:50:36,280
on the podcast.
So head to patreon.com slash on

963
00:50:36,280 –> 00:50:40,560
pops or you don’t
pod.supercast.com to check those

964
00:50:40,560 –> 00:50:42,480
out and subscribe for bonus
episodes.

965
00:50:42,480 –> 00:50:44,960
But in the meantime, all the
bonus episodes through the end

966
00:50:44,960 –> 00:50:47,960
of the year are free.
Dante, what do you got to plug?

967
00:50:48,400 –> 00:50:51,120
The only thing I have to plug,
I’m an artist, I make music.

968
00:50:51,120 –> 00:50:53,880
I also talk shit on Instagram.
If you guys want to follow me,

969
00:50:54,080 –> 00:50:56,400
Winbow XIV on everything.
I release music.

970
00:50:56,480 –> 00:50:59,280
I release some music pretty
consistently on band camp.

971
00:50:59,520 –> 00:51:00,880
If you guys want to check me
out.

972
00:51:01,000 –> 00:51:03,680
Winbow XIV Yeah, that’s all I
have to plug.

973
00:51:04,080 –> 00:51:06,840
Nice, Connor, what do you?
Got my podcast is called mean

974
00:51:06,840 –> 00:51:09,440
boys it’s very funny.
You can watch it on YouTube.

975
00:51:09,440 –> 00:51:13,960
Mean Boys podcast and I have 7
comedy albums on Spotify and

976
00:51:13,960 –> 00:51:19,080
band camp as well if you want to
keep those and follow me on

977
00:51:19,080 –> 00:51:20,840
Instagram and stuff.
Everything Connor McFadden.

978
00:51:21,080 –> 00:51:22,840
All right, and let’s get out of
here.

979
00:51:22,840 –> 00:51:26,240
Dante, say goodbye.
Connor, say goodbye.

980
00:51:26,800 –> 00:51:28,960
Goodbye.
Goodbye everybody, we love you.