Conspiracy! The Show 328: What’s Behind the Crackdown On USAID?

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I.
Hey everybody, welcome to

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Conspiracy the Show.
I’m your host Adam Todd Brown

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joining me as Co host this week.
Connors back.

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How’s it going, man?
Going good.

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Good to see you, Adam.
Good to see you also joining us.

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John Lewis is here.
What’s up y’all?

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We doing the knowledge today.
We got a room full of people we

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are talking about some ripped
from the headlines shit.

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We are talking about US aid.
US AIDS.

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We’re talking about AIDS in the
United States.

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Yeah, yeah.
Did you read The River, the 700

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page book about the origin of
AIDS that I asked you to read

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for this podcast?
No, but I listen to the Bruce

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Springsteen album The River.
That’s pretty close, right?

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Same thing.
Yeah, yeah.

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Hungry Heart is about the
government spreading AIDS

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intentionally in Africa.
People don’t know that.

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People don’t know that.
I didn’t know that and I just

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listened to the album.
So we’re talking about USAID and

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Elon Musk and Trump’s campaign
to get rid of USAID.

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This is a complicated matter
because on the one hand, fuck

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Donald Trump and Elon Musk and
all of their plans and

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everything they want to do in
life forever.

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So there’s that.
But also USAID kind of sucks and

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they could stand a little bit of
dismantling.

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Yep, we heard you loud and
clear, Adam, you love Elon Musk.

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Well, it’s a lot like Cash Patel
in the FBI thing.

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It’s like, yeah, the FBI needs
to be reformed.

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I just don’t think it needs to
be reformed in the way they want

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to do it, which is to just make
it an even more right wing

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version of the FBI.
That’s what this thing it’s like

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if they abolish, I mean if they
abolish USA, they probably just

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going to make something else
that’s basically the same thing

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just so that Trump can say he
has it.

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Like he wants to get rid of
Obamacare so he can have Trump

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care.
Well, one of the things I’ve

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read is that they want to fold
USAID into the State Department,

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which that leads me to believe,
Oh, well, you want to keep the

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regime change stuff and all of
the foreign aid stuff, get rid

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of that.
Which that wouldn’t surprise me,

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but USA does a complicated
outfit.

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I hadn’t ever really looked into
them that much before this,

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outside of all the research I
did on Venezuela back when we

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were doing the What in the World
podcast.

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And when during Trump’s first
term, we tried to topple the

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government of Venezuela like
twice, I think just in those

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four years.
Kind of kind of embarrassing

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that we couldn’t do.
It Yeah, Venezuela, I don’t even

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know.
It’s so small I don’t even know

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if I could find that shit on the
map.

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Yeah, and they were struggling
financially so bad.

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Like I feel like Venezuela is
kind of proof that the USA type

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stuff doesn’t super duper work.
USA was very much involved in

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Venezuela and the things we did
in Venezuela, which John Oliver

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would have you believe is
nothing.

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Which that’s when I quit fucking
with John Oliver.

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Like the CIA had to have written
that.

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But if you look into especially
the financial stuff we did

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relating to Venezuela, a lot of
it ended up going through NGOs

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like USAID and especially USAID.
So we should talk about them and

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their complicated history.
Founded in 1961 under the

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Kennedy administration, I feel
like there’s a bit of a

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misconception about Kennedy in
that people think he was

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something other than a President
of the United States.

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He was the President of the
United States during the Cold

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War or during part of the Cold
War, which meant he, as much as

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anyone else, hated communism and
would do whatever he had to do

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to put that shit down.
And I feel like we treat Kennedy

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like he wasn’t really that.
He was just like AI mean when

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everybody is super duper racist
and your political leanness,

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like I mean, they deserve to get
an education.

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You’re going to look, people
look at you like a king, you

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know?
Yeah, I mean, he was definitely

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progressive in that way for
sure.

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And he was more of a bit more of
a peacenik than some of the

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other guys.
But yeah, he still was like, you

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know, in charge of the whole
thing.

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It’s bad for the brand to be pro
communist.

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His administration founded USAID
in 1961, and at first it was

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essentially meant to be what the
CIA was supposed to be.

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At first, which was just a
clearing house where all of the

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various intelligence agencies of
the country would send their

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intelligence.
The CIA would sort it out and

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figure out what to do with it.
That was their initial mission.

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With USAID, it was the same
thing, except with all of the

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different foreign aid
organizations that fall under

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the umbrella of the US
government.

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They wanted to get all of them
under one organization, which

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would be USAID, and eventually
they became something else,

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whether you’re talking about the
CIA or USAID, both.

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But initially the role of USAID
was to fight communism by way of

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economic development, basically,
and things of the like, which

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that is what I think people
assume USAID is still kind of

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doing, but more fighting
governments that we don’t agree

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with by way of Building Schools
and building roads and things.

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And I think that’s accurate.
But also, why can’t it be both?

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Why can’t it be, Oh yeah, we’re
here to build roads, but also

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we’re spying on your shit.
You must know that.

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It seems like it’s more that.
Well, and it just, it’d be such

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a waste of spying to go build
somebody a road and not spying

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them a little bit.
You know, I mean, that’s not the

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CIA.
And I know they’re, they’re,

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they’re too good at their jobs
to not be doing a little bit of

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that.
Exactly.

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Do you think the US government
just about to show up and have

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like all good intentions, like,
come on, this is 2025?

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Yeah, It reminds me a lot of the
International Monetary Fund,

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where they’ll go into a country
that’s struggling and be like,

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all right, we’ll give you money,
but you’re going to have to put

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some austerity measures in
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And they put those measures in
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And the IMF knows those measures
are maybe going to be the

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tipping point that causes people
to topple that government and

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then power vacuum.
We can go in and do whatever we

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want.
This isn’t unlike that USAID.

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They do good things in a lot of
countries, but it’s the United

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States.
There’s always a catch.

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There’s always a fucking catch.
And that’s just politics.

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This might only make sense in my
head.

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It’s kind of like the fucking
Saudis in the sports washing

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thing.
Like the Saudis are putting a

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bunch of money.
They did live golf.

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They’re putting a bunch of money
in boxing.

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And people are like, yeah, but
you know, they sports watching,

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they doing.
I’m like oh as opposed to every

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other country like how we just
had the Olympics in China not

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that long ago or literally
everything that America does.

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You just used to the propaganda
that America does.

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It’s all propaganda.
It’s all PR and shit.

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Like what are y’all talking
about?

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Yeah.
And so things with USAID started

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to go haywire almost immediately
in 1962.

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The Kennedy administration
wanted to set up an initiative

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to coordinate and centralized
all of the US assistance that we

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were providing to foreign police
departments.

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So already off to a bad start.
That was called the Office of

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Public Safety.
We yeah, we need to organize our

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bribes to foreign cops.
That is pretty much spot on what

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this was, except also sometimes
our bribes was We’ll teach you

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to interrogate and torture
protesters if you want.

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Well, that’s a valuable skill.
It is.

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And basically we were trying to
export US policing to third

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world countries as a means of
training them to put down

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rebellious populations.
Which, just hearing myself say

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it, I’m like, Oh yeah, I wonder
where we figured out how to use

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the police in that way in this
country.

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So they were just basically
doing Cop City, which they’re

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working on in Atlanta right now,
because that’s what Cop City is.

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They’re getting trained by the
what is it?

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What is the Israeli police force
called IDF or some shit like

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that?
Is that it?

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Yeah, that’s it.
Yeah, it’s all, it’s all type of

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crazy shit.
Yeah, it’s.

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Yeah.
And so this being the Cold War,

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assistance to foreign police
departments mostly meant help

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them sniff out communists and
press dissent.

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This is a quote from an early
memo about the Office of Public

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Safety.
To maintain internal order, most

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governments depend primarily on
police, which normally

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constitute the first line of
defense against subversion and

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insurgency.
There are also a sensitive point

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of contact between the
government and its citizenry,

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close to focal points of unrest
and acceptable keepers of order

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over a long period of time.
End Quote.

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So OPS started as an effort to
influence foreign police

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departments to fight communism
basically.

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And the problem is figuring out
who was going to implement it

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and run it.
The CIA, for one, didn’t want to

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just do police training.
They wanted to do like some

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covert shit also, but they also
didn’t want to run this program.

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And it was eventually decided
that USAID would run it.

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And at the time, the people
running USAID really were doing

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like economic development stuff
and agriculture and things like

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that.
And they super duper resented

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having basically cops.
I think it was rednecks and

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Spooks.
They called them Spooks, me and

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government agents.
Yeah, well, it’s a funny you say

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that cuz I’m working on a video
I’m working on.

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I talk about the the book that
well, the movie and book, the

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spook that sat by the door and
there’s it’s a play on both

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versions, the slur and the
actual spy.

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So the argument the CIA was
making was basically, yeah,

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you’re doing all this economic
development, that’s great, but

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it’s not going to hold if you
can’t put down insurgents.

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Like, they’ll just take over the
government and take that aid,

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whatever you’re trying to do.
Like there has to be a policing

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component to it.
So USAID agrees.

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I mean, they didn’t really have
a choice, but they agreed to

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take on the Office of Public
Safety.

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And so in no time at all, USAID,
who was supposed to just be

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doing almost like humanitarian
stuff, now they’re doing like

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intelligence gathering and like.
It got a little bit too close to

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socialism, you know, building
roads and planting vegetables

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and shit.
It was like, hold up now.

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Yeah, yeah, that’s probably spot
on.

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And so basically, under the
guise of training police in

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other countries, they were also
looking for cops who they could

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refer to the CIA as potential
foreign agents.

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And then the CIA would get
involved and try to flip them to

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basically be an agent of the
United States against their own

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government.
Which that’s probably a pretty

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big day for a guy who works for
a foreign Police Department.

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Like, you know, you’re just a
big cop in Venezuela and you

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come home and you’re like,
honey, the United States CIA

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tried to recruit me to be a
foreign agent today.

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I.
Got called to the call them to

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the big leagues.
That’s like one of the best

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promotions you can get.
Yeah, because there had to be

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money involved.
But also we’re going to talk

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about a thing that happened in
the 2000 tens where you would

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think, Oh yeah, there had to be
a lot of money involved.

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Motherfuckers were getting paid
$5.00 an hour, but that’s for

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later on down the road.
Well, that’s Obama time.

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That’s that’s that’s when $5 was
$5.

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Yeah, that’s true.
We had a better economy.

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So the CIA being the CIA, their
training of police really

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quickly devolves into all right,
well, here’s how you interrogate

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a motherfucker.
And if that’s not working,

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here’s how you torture people to
get them to say what you want.

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And that part is where USA first
got its reputation as being kind

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of a menace on the world stage
more than anything, because OPS

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was tied to US aid.
They were, you know, under the

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same umbrella.
And when I say the CIA was

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training cops to be torturers
and interrogators and foreign

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agents, I don’t mean like a
handful.

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The CIA set up a outfit called
the International Police

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Academy, and this is where they
did all the fucking torture

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training and all of that.
They, through the International

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Police Academy, trained around
5000 police students from 77

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countries over the years.
That’s a lot of fucking torture

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and interrogation techniques
that they are exporting to

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mostly underdeveloped or
developing countries, Third

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world countries we used to call
them.

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Yeah.
It also just kind of goes to

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show you that the torture is
part of it.

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You know, you can’t separate
that from the regime.

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Yeah.
That’s like it’s American as

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McDonald’s or apple pie or
McDonald’s apple pie.

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Now that I think about it,
what’s the most American thing

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there is is a baseball game.
Will you eat a McDonald’s apple

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pie?
I mean maybe back when they used

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to deep fry it.
Now they bake it like a bunch of

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fucking liberal snowflakes.
Is this RFK?

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Are we in a health kick here?
Yeah, we do.

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We need a reverse RFK to
convince Trump to bring back the

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fried hot apple pies.
Oh, I got a hot tip for

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everybody.
Popeyes has a fried apple pie

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that tastes exactly like the old
McDonald’s apple pie.

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Oh, I’m.
Tired of Popeyes shit.

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Every time I go there they act
like they surprise people want

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fried chicken.
What?

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Oh what, You gotta trust some
spicy?

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Alright, so it’s gonna be 20
minutes.

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What the fuck do you think?
You in the black neighborhood?

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Everybody wants spicy.
Yeah, if you’re going to Popeyes

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and not getting spicy, what the
fuck are you going to Popeyes

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for?
Exactly like why are you didn’t

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sell original?
I’ve also not to.

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I’ve never been in AI, don’t
think they pay the people at

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Popeye’s enough, because I’ve
never been to a Popeye’s where

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they really like, gave a shit,
where they’re like, oh, hello

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Sir.
Like right this way, Sir.

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It is always a terrible
experience.

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Every state you live in, no
matter where you live, Popeye’s

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people do not give a shit.
You go to Culver’s or fucking

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Chick-fil-A, they act like they
just it’s free BJ.

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They they so happy.
Culver’s is so great.

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I miss it.
I miss it.

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So the Office of Public Safety,
it ends up being in operation

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for about 12 years, gets shut
down in 74.

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Around the same time the church
committee hearings happens when

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we found out about MK Ultra and
all of the government atrocities

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that have been happening start
coming to light, and that’s when

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the OPS gets shut down.
But USA kept being a thing.

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But once OPS got shut down, we
started hearing about some of

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the things they did on the world
stage.

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And one of the places they were
especially active as part of

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USAID’s efforts were in Vietnam.
And one of the incidents that

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started kind of turning public
perception against USAID and

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OPS, this guy named Don Luce,
LED a group of U.S.

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Congress members on a tour of
Vietnam’s Khansan Prison.

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And that was where political
prisoners on the side of the

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Vietnam War that we were
fighting for were kept.

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And they were kept in tiger
cages that were so small that

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most of the people held in
captivity ended up not being

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able to walk again for the rest
of their lives.

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That was a prison built by OPS
and USAID.

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They oversaw the construction of
that.

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And there was even a moment from
when this news broke where a

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spokesman for USAID was like,
come on, it wasn’t that bad.

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People were like, what?
You can’t just render political

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prisoners unable to walk for the
rest of their lives?

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That’s a violation of war.
Shit.

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John McCain can’t put his arms
above his head.

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That’s true.
Also that’s the true I’m I’m

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imagine what the fuck?
This is a tiger cage.

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Like I I don’t have any human in
the measurement for that because

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like, tigers are pretty.
Big aren’t we?

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Like smaller than most tigers at
the end of the day.

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Yeah, that was kind of that was.
That’s a great point.

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That’s a great point, John.
Tigers are big.

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Maybe it’s the height?
It’s got to be that’s something

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and it’s got to be the height
because like, what do they mean

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it’s tiger cage?
Like I don’t understand.

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Also white.
Hey, how about this turn the

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tiger cage up on its side.
Now it’s now it’s Well, I guess

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then you got to sleep standing
up.

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It’s it’s harder to run a beat
in the movies Prison.

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I thought actually right.
I’m just imagining US aid going

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to the cage store when they’re
building this fucking prison and

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the salesperson is like, oh, to
house people, oh, let me show

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you to our human cages.
And they’re like, no, no, no,

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no, hear me out, tiger cages,
because fuck these

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motherfuckers, right?
Like that’s CIA shit.

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Yeah, that’s probably what’s
going on in Guantanamo Bay right

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now.
Oh, absolutely.

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There’s.
I wonder if we’ll ever find out

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what really, really, really
happened at Guantanamo Bay.

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For one thing, the 9/11 trials
kind of just wrapped up.

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There was just like a plea deal
that happened very, very like

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months ago I believe.
Jesus Christ, 24 years.

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But there’s also at least one
defendant who got his case

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thrown out because the CIA
tortured him to the point that

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he was no longer competent to
stand trial, which you got to

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wonder if that was the point.
Like what was he going to say on

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the stand that they maybe didn’t
want him to say that They just.

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Saudi Arabia did that shit.
Exactly.

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Yeah.
Yeah.

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So yeah, Guantanamo, they got
plenty of room there now, that’s

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for sure.
Even just the stuff that’s

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confirmed is insane.
Like we made them sit on little

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pyramids while we played
annoying music over and over

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again.
Like that’s that.

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That is nuts.
It is.

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And it’s like that’s torture.
That’s what cults do, or it’s

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what the government does when
they’re trying to smoke out

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Manuel Noriega or whoever else
we’re trying to get out of a

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building.
But so USA because of all the

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Vietnam shit, public opinion
starts turning, especially

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toward the OPSOPS gets shut
down, but USAID keeps going and

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it would be silly to assume they
just like stopped all the regime

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change shit because people got
mad about Vietnam.

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But the big issue with USAID now
is one, in a lot of ways, they

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act like an intelligence agency
still, But also when they do

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help, it’s almost always
contingent on something.

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There’s something the US wants
if we’re in your country

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offering US aid.
And that’s the legitimate

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criticism of them.
We’ll get to the Elon Musk

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conspiracy theory thing in a
minute, but we’ll link to an

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article on The Nation that
points out when Democrats and

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USAID both were criticizing
Trump and Musk for shutting it

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down, A lot of them accidentally
pointed out one of the big

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flaws, which is that we use
USAID as leverage.

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On the world stage, like, it
provides a lot of financial aid

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and training for a lot of good
causes.

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But it’s still under the
umbrella of helping American

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interests succeed abroad.
For example, this is a quote

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from former USA director
Samantha Power in an op-ed on

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The New York Times.
She talked about how the agency

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has, quote, generated vast
stores of political capital.

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End Quote.
And they use it to do things

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like helping American companies
enter a new market market.

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End Quote.
Which does that sound like what

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people thought USAID was for?
Because I think a lot of people

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are picturing strictly handing
out food to poor people in other

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countries and.
But but the food is McDonald’s

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and Coca-Cola.
Yeah, exactly.

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The food is where Yeah, like how
we sell so much spam in the

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Pacific Island region gives
everyone.

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Diabetes, well, it’s because we
want them to grow up to have

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very spicy bones that are strong
and painting.

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There is an absurd variety of
spam available in those

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countries, like 30 or 40
different kinds.

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Who knew?
Who knew?

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Yeah, there shouldn’t be more
kinds of spam than black and

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mild flavors.
I can’t even I think I smell

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spam and my stomach hurt.
So there was you’ve never had

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spam.
I’ve never had it either.

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I smelled that shit before.
It looks, I don’t know, I don’t

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trust it.
It’s just ham.

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It’s just like.
It’s not just ham.

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Yeah, Adam, come on.
Ham and it was vices.

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If it was just ham, then you’d
be called ham.

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It’s.
Right.

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Ham.
What?

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I thought it was supposed to be
closer to fish than ham anyway.

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It’s Ham, spices and a really
tasty clear Lube kind of

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substance that you that aids in
getting it out of the can.

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Yeah, gross.
Yeah, it’s good fried.

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It’s really good fried.
I don’t, I don’t condone this

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portion of the program.
Not at all.

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This episode.
Toppling government is fine,

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but.
The segment has been brought to

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you by US Aid.
You live in another country, Eat

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a lot of spam, all right?
Also, New Jersey Senator Andy

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Kim, a Democrat who used to work
for US Aid, said this on

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Twitter.
Quote, US Aid isn’t charity.

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It’s a foreign policy tool with
bipartisan origins that is

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crucial in this dangerous global
environment.

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Gutting it meant gutting our
ability to compete and keep

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America safe.
You know, whenever a

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motherfucker’s talking about
competing, they’re not talking

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about making sure poor people
get vaccinations and things of

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the like.
Whenever, whenever competing to

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get the infant mortality rate
down.

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Right like what the fuck?
I feel like we need more

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information.
Competing with what?

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What do you mean?
Yeah, it’s a very valid question

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because yeah, what if it is?
You know, why isn’t there infant

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mortality rate lower, like
Connor said?

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Yeah, What are we?
What’s the competition?

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The Carnegie Endowment for
International Peace also wrote

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an article criticizing the quote
heartlessness of Trump shutting

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down US aid that included this
bit quote.

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The idea that US foreign aid has
been some sort of festival of

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generous charity disconnected
from US interests is laughable.

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Just look at the list of the
largest recipients of US aid.

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It is no coincidence they’re
almost all security partners or

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countries of security concern.
End Quote.

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That is from an article from
someone defending USAID, which

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that doesn’t sound like a
defense to me.

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That sounds like a reason to at
least tweak the way that outfit

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is working.
Maybe not dismantle it entirely,

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but.
Maybe I don’t know what those

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words mean together.
What do they mean?

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Security.
Partners.

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It means that the only the only
on Instagram, they only follow

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chicks they already fucked or
chicks they want to fuck.

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OK.
That’s basically what it means.

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Either we already fucked with
your country and now we got

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influence over you, or you’re
acting up and we want to make

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sure we can exert some influence
over you in the future.

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Yeah, it’s kind of the same
thing as like in the 90s when we

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were doing all those wars in
fucking Eastern Europe and we

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were like, what genocide?
We’re fucking fighting a

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00:24:33,720 –> 00:24:35,920
genocide.
It’s like there’s genocides

437
00:24:35,920 –> 00:24:39,000
happening all the time that we
don’t fucking fight, that we

438
00:24:39,000 –> 00:24:42,760
don’t do anything about.
We intervene in the ones that

439
00:24:42,760 –> 00:24:47,160
are threatening our personal
interests as the United States.

440
00:24:47,520 –> 00:24:50,680
We’re not the world police.
We just police our own

441
00:24:50,840 –> 00:24:54,120
interests.
And USAID kind of does the same

442
00:24:54,120 –> 00:24:56,120
thing.
Like they’ll come to your

443
00:24:56,120 –> 00:24:58,960
country.
It remind we did a episode

444
00:24:58,960 –> 00:25:02,280
recently about a very
interesting documentary.

445
00:25:02,360 –> 00:25:07,200
It was called Soundtrack to a
Coup d’etat and it was about how

446
00:25:07,400 –> 00:25:13,080
the CIA basically sent jazz
musicians to Africa to spy on

447
00:25:13,080 –> 00:25:17,280
African leaders and also
assassinate Patrice Lumumba

448
00:25:17,360 –> 00:25:20,800
under the guise of.
Well if we just show them how

449
00:25:20,800 –> 00:25:24,160
happy our black musicians are
then maybe people will realize

450
00:25:24,160 –> 00:25:27,160
we’re not that racist and that
our system is better than

451
00:25:27,160 –> 00:25:29,360
communism.
Fucking absurd plan.

452
00:25:32,200 –> 00:25:34,240
Yeah, You know, in the State
Department it’s like, yeah, I

453
00:25:34,240 –> 00:25:35,920
don’t know.
What about the healing power of

454
00:25:35,920 –> 00:25:38,200
jazz?
One of the most fat.

455
00:25:38,400 –> 00:25:40,320
I would take a whole documentary
about this.

456
00:25:40,320 –> 00:25:44,240
I had no idea jazz musician
Dizzy Gillespie started his own

457
00:25:44,240 –> 00:25:49,160
political party at one point and
he was running for president and

458
00:25:49,160 –> 00:25:53,560
his cabinet was going to be all
fucking jazz musicians and Miles

459
00:25:53,560 –> 00:25:56,320
Davis was going to be the
director of the CIA first.

460
00:25:56,760 –> 00:26:02,520
Thing is, legalize heroin baby.
They would.

461
00:26:02,520 –> 00:26:05,680
That’s definitely a big jazz
musician plank of the platform,

462
00:26:06,800 –> 00:26:09,160
Secretary of the Interior
Thelonious Monk.

463
00:26:10,880 –> 00:26:15,680
But I bring that up because the
same thing with USAID, where,

464
00:26:15,680 –> 00:26:18,360
yeah, they’ll come to your
country and offer you some help,

465
00:26:18,360 –> 00:26:22,000
but only if you’re willing to,
like, play ball and do what the

466
00:26:22,000 –> 00:26:24,840
United States wants.
Yeah, so with Tony Soprano, you

467
00:26:24,840 –> 00:26:26,240
know, I was.
Literally about to say this is

468
00:26:26,240 –> 00:26:30,120
basically the mafia.
At one point during Patrice

469
00:26:30,120 –> 00:26:36,920
Lumumba’s struggles, he calls on
the UN to come to his country

470
00:26:37,040 –> 00:26:40,280
to, like, help put down this
unrest that’s happening.

471
00:26:40,440 –> 00:26:42,320
And the UN is like, yeah, you’re
right.

472
00:26:42,560 –> 00:26:45,680
We’ll be right there to help.
And as soon as they get there,

473
00:26:45,880 –> 00:26:50,400
the director of the UN basically
like they reach out to Patrice

474
00:26:50,400 –> 00:26:53,440
Lumumba and are like, all right,
we’re here to help, but are you

475
00:26:53,440 –> 00:26:56,120
going to do this one thing?
And he’s like, no.

476
00:26:56,320 –> 00:26:58,720
And the director of the UN is
like, all right, well, now the

477
00:26:58,720 –> 00:27:01,760
UN is there to occupy your
country and we’re going to take

478
00:27:01,760 –> 00:27:04,520
you into custody.
It’s the same thing.

479
00:27:04,520 –> 00:27:08,440
Where we hear about the UN is
this benevolent organization

480
00:27:08,440 –> 00:27:13,280
that’s just out there trying to
be a good guy in the face of all

481
00:27:13,280 –> 00:27:15,640
this bad in the world.
They’re not.

482
00:27:15,720 –> 00:27:19,200
They’re not like no one is.
No one’s doing that.

483
00:27:19,280 –> 00:27:22,800
I hate to break it to people,
but no one’s out there trying to

484
00:27:22,800 –> 00:27:26,000
be good right now.
It’s all kind of just a bit of a

485
00:27:26,000 –> 00:27:27,640
chess game and shit.
Yeah.

486
00:27:27,920 –> 00:27:30,360
That’s the uplifting message of
the conspiracy of the show.

487
00:27:30,360 –> 00:27:32,320
No one’s out there trying to be
good right now.

488
00:27:32,320 –> 00:27:35,560
It.
Feels that way here.

489
00:27:35,640 –> 00:27:38,960
That’s for God damn sure.
Local community bake sale.

490
00:27:38,960 –> 00:27:42,960
Fuck you.
What are them little girls up

491
00:27:42,960 –> 00:27:46,560
to?
Clothing drive, eat shit.

492
00:27:47,400 –> 00:27:51,200
So a lot of the USAID stuff
we’ve been talking about was old

493
00:27:51,200 –> 00:27:52,920
timey things.
I don’t want people to think

494
00:27:53,120 –> 00:27:55,800
they don’t have any modern day
shenanigans.

495
00:27:55,880 –> 00:27:59,880
To their credit.
A lot of the more high profile

496
00:28:00,000 –> 00:28:07,120
USAID escapades happened in the
2000 tens, mid 2000 tens under

497
00:28:07,120 –> 00:28:12,160
Obama in Cuba.
For one, USAID tried to launch a

498
00:28:12,200 –> 00:28:19,120
Cuban Twitter with the stated
goal in USA documents of causing

499
00:28:19,120 –> 00:28:22,360
unrest and maybe toppling the
government.

500
00:28:22,480 –> 00:28:26,960
It was called Zoom Zuneo which
is a play on the tweeting noise

501
00:28:27,040 –> 00:28:29,320
that the Cuban Hummingbird
makes.

502
00:28:29,480 –> 00:28:33,920
And the plan was to build a
subscriber base using non

503
00:28:33,920 –> 00:28:37,240
controversial content like
sports and pop culture.

504
00:28:37,400 –> 00:28:41,120
And then when the base was big
enough, start introducing

505
00:28:41,280 –> 00:28:45,960
political content meant to
inspire smart jobs that would go

506
00:28:45,960 –> 00:28:49,760
out and gather in mass in public
on a moment’s notice.

507
00:28:49,920 –> 00:28:53,320
All with the hope of starting
like a Cuban spring kind of

508
00:28:53,320 –> 00:28:57,600
thing where the people just
naturally uprise and overthrow

509
00:28:57,600 –> 00:29:00,480
their government.
But naturally has a big asterisk

510
00:29:00,480 –> 00:29:04,280
next to it where in the
footnotes it says but the US

511
00:29:04,280 –> 00:29:07,240
government started a social
media network that caused this.

512
00:29:07,280 –> 00:29:10,480
That’s also the kind of shit
USAID is getting up to.

513
00:29:10,640 –> 00:29:14,480
And even in defending that,
they’re like, yeah, we’re just

514
00:29:14,480 –> 00:29:17,480
like giving people freedom of
expression, you know, in a

515
00:29:17,480 –> 00:29:18,960
country where they don’t have
it.

516
00:29:19,000 –> 00:29:21,360
And it’s like, yeah, but there’s
more to it.

517
00:29:21,600 –> 00:29:23,960
I think they’re doing that here,
but instead of smart mobs, it’s

518
00:29:23,960 –> 00:29:25,640
dumb mobs.
And when stuff really starts

519
00:29:25,640 –> 00:29:27,800
popping off and they really
start me manipulating this

520
00:29:27,800 –> 00:29:30,800
behind the scenes, that’s when
they really pump out like, oh,

521
00:29:30,800 –> 00:29:34,000
hey, here’s just like Lizzo’s
twerking, you know, like in

522
00:29:34,000 –> 00:29:36,440
fucking the high fructose corn
syrup and porn.

523
00:29:36,520 –> 00:29:38,760
I could see that.
Yeah, this is kind of insane

524
00:29:38,760 –> 00:29:41,600
that we had our own tick tock
and we’re like Cuban tick tock.

525
00:29:42,480 –> 00:29:44,760
Yeah.
And recently, like I think that

526
00:29:44,760 –> 00:29:49,480
was 2014, something like that.
And there was another USAID

527
00:29:49,480 –> 00:29:54,000
project in Cuba that involved
sending young Venezuelan, Costa

528
00:29:54,000 –> 00:29:58,800
Rican and Peruvian people to
Cuba in the hopes of stirring up

529
00:29:59,080 –> 00:30:02,320
rebellion of some sort.
This was around 2009.

530
00:30:02,520 –> 00:30:07,040
The cover they used for that was
to set up an HIV prevention

531
00:30:07,440 –> 00:30:09,560
workshop.
That’s why USAID is so

532
00:30:09,560 –> 00:30:13,520
complicated, because on the
surface, people are going to see

533
00:30:13,520 –> 00:30:16,600
that and go, yeah, USAID,
they’re setting up fucking HIV

534
00:30:16,600 –> 00:30:18,880
prevention stuff in Cuba.
That’s all they do.

535
00:30:18,880 –> 00:30:21,320
They’re not spies.
And it’s like, yeah, but they

536
00:30:21,320 –> 00:30:23,600
are.
But they are sometimes.

537
00:30:23,640 –> 00:30:27,280
And this is a case where, yeah,
they went there with seemingly

538
00:30:27,280 –> 00:30:31,200
good intentions, but it was just
to topple the government.

539
00:30:31,320 –> 00:30:35,160
And I feel like that’s kind of
the perception people all around

540
00:30:35,160 –> 00:30:39,200
the world have of the United
States, which is when they come

541
00:30:39,200 –> 00:30:41,840
to your country to help, there’s
a catch to it.

542
00:30:41,960 –> 00:30:44,640
Yeah, I mean, that’s pretty much
everything we do is probably

543
00:30:44,640 –> 00:30:48,080
not, not probably.
It isn’t just specific to US

544
00:30:48,080 –> 00:30:49,960
aid.
It’s just like I said it.

545
00:30:50,080 –> 00:30:52,520
And they’re probably just going
to, if they do get rid of it,

546
00:30:52,520 –> 00:30:55,000
they’re just going to make a new
version of it called Trump Aid

547
00:30:55,000 –> 00:30:57,840
or some dumb shit or 8X or
something.

548
00:30:58,040 –> 00:31:01,520
Oh God, I hope to use the Trump
branding, not the ex Elon

549
00:31:01,520 –> 00:31:03,120
branding, because somehow that’s
worse.

550
00:31:03,520 –> 00:31:06,160
Yeah, at least if you’ve ever
stayed like in a Trump hotel,

551
00:31:06,160 –> 00:31:08,520
it’s a nice hotel.
At least it’s a good brand.

552
00:31:08,880 –> 00:31:11,440
Yeah.
Yeah, the fucking Elon app.

553
00:31:11,440 –> 00:31:13,120
You can’t even search your old
tweets.

554
00:31:14,160 –> 00:31:18,080
So all of this said, none of
that should be taken as an

555
00:31:18,080 –> 00:31:21,720
endorsement of what Elon Musk
and Trump are doing.

556
00:31:21,880 –> 00:31:26,720
For one thing, we’re talking
about how US aid is kind of a

557
00:31:26,720 –> 00:31:31,160
force for regime change and
imperialism around the country.

558
00:31:31,320 –> 00:31:35,120
For what Elon Musk and Trump are
doing to be considered good,

559
00:31:35,320 –> 00:31:37,280
there would have to be some
indication that we’re going to

560
00:31:37,280 –> 00:31:41,000
stop the imperialism shit, and
that’s clearly not the case.

561
00:31:41,320 –> 00:31:45,480
It seems like instead of that,
we’re just going to focus on

562
00:31:45,480 –> 00:31:49,160
fucking with people closer to us
instead of doing it further

563
00:31:49,160 –> 00:31:51,040
away.
Now we’re talking about taking

564
00:31:51,040 –> 00:31:54,320
over Canada and taking over
Greenland and taking over the

565
00:31:54,320 –> 00:31:57,160
Panama Canal.
So we’re going to need resources

566
00:31:57,520 –> 00:32:00,000
for that.
For all I know, we’ve got USA.

567
00:32:00,440 –> 00:32:02,160
This could all be a fucking
smokescreen.

568
00:32:02,160 –> 00:32:04,880
Maybe USA didn’t even get fired.
They’re all just going to move

569
00:32:04,880 –> 00:32:07,720
to fucking Greenland and talk
those mother fuckers into being

570
00:32:07,720 –> 00:32:10,440
annexed by the United States.
Who knows?

571
00:32:10,640 –> 00:32:12,760
It really just feels like we’re
living in an episode of The

572
00:32:12,760 –> 00:32:15,440
Simpsons like this is like I
don’t even know if The Simpsons

573
00:32:15,440 –> 00:32:17,680
like besides your Bob wouldn’t
do this shit.

574
00:32:18,360 –> 00:32:20,840
Like what do you mean?
You trying to take over Canada,

575
00:32:20,880 –> 00:32:23,240
make it a state and also do you
do you?

576
00:32:23,240 –> 00:32:25,440
What do you think they just
going to all turn red?

577
00:32:25,560 –> 00:32:28,560
I don’t man, like we’re living
in a the dumbest timeline and I

578
00:32:28,560 –> 00:32:30,920
swear.
Yeah, I’m sympathetic because

579
00:32:31,040 –> 00:32:35,240
taking over Canada was one of my
ideas to solve America’s

580
00:32:35,240 –> 00:32:39,520
problems when I was 7.
So you know I.

581
00:32:39,720 –> 00:32:42,760
You’re a prophet.
I felt like Michigan should have

582
00:32:42,760 –> 00:32:45,880
sold the UP to Canada for like,
I don’t know, however many

583
00:32:45,880 –> 00:32:48,400
millions of dollars shit up
there, but snow?

584
00:32:48,400 –> 00:32:49,840
That’s basically Canada
anywhere.

585
00:32:50,240 –> 00:32:52,720
Oh, you’re saying we should try
to trade them some like janky

586
00:32:52,720 –> 00:32:56,080
parts of America?
OK, you can have Maine and we’ll

587
00:32:56,080 –> 00:32:58,400
take like, you know, Ottawa or
everything.

588
00:32:58,400 –> 00:33:00,400
I don’t know if that’s a good.
Is that a good part of Canada?

589
00:33:00,640 –> 00:33:02,760
Oh, how would I know?
How would any of us know?

590
00:33:02,760 –> 00:33:06,440
What are we, geography experts?
Yeah, I’ve I’ve only been to

591
00:33:06,440 –> 00:33:09,160
Canada once.
I’ve been a couple times, once

592
00:33:09,160 –> 00:33:11,480
when I was very young and the
only other time I went to

593
00:33:11,480 –> 00:33:15,400
Winnipeg, which seems rough.
Detroit is surprisingly most

594
00:33:15,400 –> 00:33:17,000
people don’t realize how close
it is.

595
00:33:17,000 –> 00:33:20,400
Like if you go downtown you can
literally see Canada across the

596
00:33:20,400 –> 00:33:22,120
across the Detroit River,
Windsor.

597
00:33:22,280 –> 00:33:24,400
That’s where I went, that I went
to Windsor, right across from

598
00:33:24,400 –> 00:33:25,520
Detroit.
Yep.

599
00:33:25,880 –> 00:33:30,160
That’s one of the things I
always notice when there’s like

600
00:33:30,320 –> 00:33:34,400
football games that are telecast
in Detroit, all the landmarks

601
00:33:34,400 –> 00:33:35,960
they show because they do that
with that.

602
00:33:35,960 –> 00:33:38,640
Like in LA, they’ll show you
like the Santa Monica Pier and

603
00:33:38,640 –> 00:33:40,920
meanwhile that’s like an hour
from where the game is.

604
00:33:41,120 –> 00:33:43,920
In Detroit.
It’s always the first and then

605
00:33:43,920 –> 00:33:47,480
that bridge showing you how to
fucking get to a better country

606
00:33:47,480 –> 00:33:50,600
if you need to get there quick.
Like those are the only fucking

607
00:33:50,600 –> 00:33:52,720
landmarks they show.
Or Detroit.

608
00:33:52,880 –> 00:33:56,160
That and the spirit of Detroit
that I think it was, Conan

609
00:33:56,160 –> 00:33:58,440
O’Brien said.
It looks like the statue of

610
00:33:58,440 –> 00:34:02,840
Liberties brother got into yoga.
Let’s Google to steer Detroit.

611
00:34:02,840 –> 00:34:04,400
That is actually what it looks
like though.

612
00:34:04,600 –> 00:34:08,120
There was a meme that went
around a few years ago.

613
00:34:08,239 –> 00:34:12,760
I saw that it was a picture of
someone pointing a gun and it

614
00:34:12,760 –> 00:34:16,760
said what you think Detroit is.
And then the next one said what

615
00:34:16,760 –> 00:34:20,120
Detroit really is and it was 4
pictures and three of them were

616
00:34:20,120 –> 00:34:22,719
these like really beautiful
Detroit landmarks.

617
00:34:22,880 –> 00:34:25,360
And then the 4th 1 was still
just the guy pointing the gun.

618
00:34:27,040 –> 00:34:30,159
Yeah, I mean, it’s it’s a lot of
parts you probably get fucked up

619
00:34:30,199 –> 00:34:32,320
at.
You got to know what to do, know

620
00:34:32,320 –> 00:34:34,239
where to move.
Yeah, like anywhere else.

621
00:34:34,400 –> 00:34:39,040
So I think what’s happening more
with USAID is we’re just getting

622
00:34:39,040 –> 00:34:43,280
out of the, if we give you money
for food, will you play by our

623
00:34:43,280 –> 00:34:47,520
rules kind of thing and just
pivoting more to like a threat

624
00:34:47,520 –> 00:34:51,440
based thing where it’s like
fucking do what we say or

625
00:34:51,560 –> 00:34:53,800
there’s going to be consequences
of some sort.

626
00:34:53,800 –> 00:34:55,360
Trump will just post that shit
on main.

627
00:34:55,360 –> 00:34:58,080
You know, he’s not going to like
be in your DMS trying to just be

628
00:34:58,080 –> 00:35:01,400
like fucking Greenland to act
right or we’re taking your ass

629
00:35:01,400 –> 00:35:04,000
over, you know?
I honestly think that’s part of

630
00:35:04,000 –> 00:35:06,240
it.
I think the thinking is we don’t

631
00:35:06,240 –> 00:35:09,880
need to spend this money trying
to get countries to do what we

632
00:35:09,880 –> 00:35:11,760
want.
We can just tell them to do what

633
00:35:11,760 –> 00:35:13,600
we want because we’re the United
States.

634
00:35:13,800 –> 00:35:15,600
Yeah, it’s like, what are we
doing with all these carrots?

635
00:35:15,600 –> 00:35:17,240
We’re really more of a stick
country.

636
00:35:17,920 –> 00:35:20,440
Yeah.
Right, just beat the shit out of

637
00:35:20,440 –> 00:35:24,400
them with a stick.
And like, I think Ukraine really

638
00:35:24,400 –> 00:35:29,120
makes kind of a great example of
the kind of racket Trump can run

639
00:35:29,120 –> 00:35:30,840
going forward, especially in
Europe.

640
00:35:30,960 –> 00:35:35,040
Like if he’s just letting Russia
fucking run roughshod over

641
00:35:35,040 –> 00:35:38,520
Europe, he can do what he did
with Ukraine and so many other

642
00:35:38,520 –> 00:35:41,600
places and just step in and be
like, you know how me and that

643
00:35:41,600 –> 00:35:44,960
guy get along.
If you want this war to end,

644
00:35:45,120 –> 00:35:49,000
then just give us all your rare
earth minerals and the war will

645
00:35:49,000 –> 00:35:51,760
be over like that.
And then we can split all that

646
00:35:51,760 –> 00:35:55,120
shit with Russia.
That’s so much easier than

647
00:35:55,320 –> 00:35:58,400
setting up all these non
governmental organizations and

648
00:35:58,640 –> 00:36:01,360
funneling CIA black money to
them.

649
00:36:01,520 –> 00:36:04,680
We’re just going to be fucking
obvious monsters, I think.

650
00:36:04,880 –> 00:36:08,680
That would be so fucked.
Like to to split all of your

651
00:36:08,800 –> 00:36:11,240
mineral mineral rights with the
country you were fighting?

652
00:36:11,560 –> 00:36:14,560
Yeah, I mean, that’s, yeah,
that’s probably what’s going to

653
00:36:14,560 –> 00:36:16,960
happen in Ukraine, though.
I mean, there’s no way Russia’s

654
00:36:16,960 –> 00:36:19,040
not going to get some of that
shit from us.

655
00:36:19,240 –> 00:36:22,640
I mean, well, it’s we’re not
winning this war enough, that’s

656
00:36:22,640 –> 00:36:24,000
for sure.
Yeah.

657
00:36:24,800 –> 00:36:29,800
And so also there’s an NBC News
article out there that brings up

658
00:36:29,800 –> 00:36:32,040
a point that I found really
interesting.

659
00:36:32,200 –> 00:36:37,560
Elon Musk, until very recently,
almost never posted about USAID.

660
00:36:37,560 –> 00:36:40,080
And that all changed on February
2nd.

661
00:36:40,200 –> 00:36:43,960
That day he posted a whole bunch
of things about USAID, called

662
00:36:43,960 –> 00:36:48,200
him a viper’s nest of radical
left Marxists who hate America,

663
00:36:48,360 –> 00:36:51,520
called him evil, called him a
criminal organization.

664
00:36:51,640 –> 00:36:55,680
And that’s really interesting
timing because I think it points

665
00:36:55,680 –> 00:36:57,640
to what this is all really
about.

666
00:36:57,840 –> 00:37:01,320
The timing of those tweets
coincides with Marco Rubio

667
00:37:01,520 –> 00:37:05,000
taking that trip to El Salvador.
I don’t know if people listening

668
00:37:05,320 –> 00:37:08,440
are familiar with that, but
president of El Salvador, he

669
00:37:08,440 –> 00:37:10,880
calls himself the world’s
coolest dictator, had this

670
00:37:10,880 –> 00:37:14,800
massive crackdown on crime that
actually did work, kind of built

671
00:37:14,800 –> 00:37:16,480
all these prisons to accommodate
it.

672
00:37:16,600 –> 00:37:20,160
Marco Rubio had a visit with
him, and this guy was like, if

673
00:37:20,160 –> 00:37:21,920
you’re trying to deport people
and you don’t have anywhere to

674
00:37:21,920 –> 00:37:24,320
send them, send them here.
I’m building all these prisons.

675
00:37:24,320 –> 00:37:26,760
We can just put them there.
And sure enough, that first

676
00:37:26,760 –> 00:37:32,000
flight of Venezuelan deportees
went to a prison in El Salvador.

677
00:37:32,000 –> 00:37:34,280
I did a solo episode about that
guy.

678
00:37:34,280 –> 00:37:36,800
His name is Naibu Kelly.
And one of the things I brought

679
00:37:36,800 –> 00:37:40,800
up, he also has a big beef with
USAID, but he’s way more

680
00:37:40,800 –> 00:37:44,520
transparent about what it is and
why he hates them.

681
00:37:44,720 –> 00:37:47,400
He thinks they are part of a
global money laundering

682
00:37:47,440 –> 00:37:51,680
operation that also involves
pretty much all of.

683
00:37:51,680 –> 00:37:53,800
Independent media?
What?

684
00:37:54,120 –> 00:37:55,520
What do you mean independent
media?

685
00:37:55,640 –> 00:37:59,400
Exactly what it sounds like.
Like non corporate media?

686
00:37:59,480 –> 00:38:02,480
So parkas.
Yeah, kind of.

687
00:38:02,480 –> 00:38:06,200
We’re we’re building up to it.
He thinks they’re part of a

688
00:38:06,200 –> 00:38:08,280
global money laundering
operation.

689
00:38:08,280 –> 00:38:10,520
The reason?
He thinks that In February,

690
00:38:10,600 –> 00:38:15,120
WikiLeaks published documents
showing that USAID was funding

691
00:38:15,120 –> 00:38:25,600
over 6200 journalists across 707
media outlets and 279 media NGOs

692
00:38:25,800 –> 00:38:28,560
all around the world.
I mentioned on the Solo podcast,

693
00:38:28,560 –> 00:38:31,400
I know a lot of people will want
that to be like conspiracy

694
00:38:31,400 –> 00:38:35,600
theory talk.
That is from a Reporters Without

695
00:38:35,600 –> 00:38:40,960
Borders article about how the
USAID freeze has sent foreign

696
00:38:40,960 –> 00:38:44,160
investigative journalism into a
tailspin.

697
00:38:44,360 –> 00:38:50,560
Because yes, a lot of them were
in large part funded by US aid

698
00:38:50,720 –> 00:38:54,520
and US aid itself.
There’s still a Medium article

699
00:38:54,520 –> 00:38:58,680
out there that you can read
where they say the US government

700
00:38:58,680 –> 00:39:02,480
is the largest public donor to
independent media globally, and

701
00:39:02,480 –> 00:39:04,880
most of that was happening
through US aid.

702
00:39:05,080 –> 00:39:08,440
The only question is if that’s
nefarious or not.

703
00:39:08,600 –> 00:39:13,040
Was the US really just helping
fund independent journalism or

704
00:39:13,040 –> 00:39:16,520
were we spreading propaganda?
And like, why not both?

705
00:39:16,760 –> 00:39:18,400
You know, I.
Was about to say it’s probably

706
00:39:18,400 –> 00:39:20,160
both.
I mean they already control

707
00:39:20,200 –> 00:39:22,600
regular media anyway if you want
to get interviews.

708
00:39:22,600 –> 00:39:25,560
But you talked about it a lot,
like every so often the story

709
00:39:25,560 –> 00:39:27,640
only breaking one of them
tabloids or something.

710
00:39:27,640 –> 00:39:30,480
And it’s actually true because
the government was like, yeah

711
00:39:30,480 –> 00:39:32,680
y’all not printing that shit.
So one of the easiest ways to

712
00:39:32,680 –> 00:39:36,280
corrupt a, a, a data set in a
meaningful way is just to put

713
00:39:36,280 –> 00:39:39,880
some legitimate stuff in there
so that the, all the

714
00:39:39,880 –> 00:39:42,920
illegitimate stuff, it’s like,
oh, well, you can just refer to

715
00:39:42,920 –> 00:39:45,320
your legitimate stuff.
Like are you saying that this

716
00:39:45,320 –> 00:39:48,680
part is that’s totally cool.
As for the fucked up and yeah,

717
00:39:48,680 –> 00:39:51,000
or, or if someone goes to check
your work and they accidentally

718
00:39:51,000 –> 00:39:52,760
just check some of the stuff
that’s legitimate, they’re like,

719
00:39:52,760 –> 00:39:54,640
Oh yeah, yeah, it’s all fine.
It’s all fine.

720
00:39:55,520 –> 00:39:58,080
So, you know, yeah, why, why
wouldn’t you actually try to

721
00:39:58,080 –> 00:40:01,560
fund some real journalism so you
could just spread your property

722
00:40:01,560 –> 00:40:05,600
into with more impunity?
And what’s really terrifying

723
00:40:05,800 –> 00:40:11,560
about this because when Naibu
Kelly offered to house people we

724
00:40:11,560 –> 00:40:14,560
deport, which he’s already
doing, we took him up on that.

725
00:40:14,760 –> 00:40:19,040
He was also like, hey, you can
send some US criminals here too

726
00:40:19,200 –> 00:40:23,360
if you don’t have room for them
in your jails, which we know are

727
00:40:23,360 –> 00:40:28,120
fucking filled to the brim.
And what worries me about Elon

728
00:40:28,120 –> 00:40:33,280
Musk, Trump, USAID and Naib
Bukele is he’s known for this

729
00:40:33,280 –> 00:40:36,280
big crackdown on gang violence,
building all these prisons to

730
00:40:36,280 –> 00:40:39,400
accommodate it.
He arrested like 80,000 people,

731
00:40:39,960 –> 00:40:43,720
just huge numbers.
Now he’s promising to do that

732
00:40:43,720 –> 00:40:46,960
for white collar crime.
And what’s money laundering?

733
00:40:47,120 –> 00:40:52,520
A white collar crime.
So what are the chances that

734
00:40:52,520 –> 00:40:55,400
when he says I’m going to build
prisons and crack down on white

735
00:40:55,400 –> 00:40:58,720
collar crime next, what are the
chances he fucking means those

736
00:40:58,720 –> 00:41:03,600
journalists that he deems being
funded by US aid?

737
00:41:04,320 –> 00:41:07,880
He controls enough of the
courts, at least in his country,

738
00:41:07,880 –> 00:41:11,000
that he’ll absolutely be able to
lock up journalists there.

739
00:41:11,120 –> 00:41:16,240
Whether Trump and Musk can do it
is another question, but that

740
00:41:16,360 –> 00:41:19,520
brings us to where it gets even
more terrifying.

741
00:41:19,520 –> 00:41:23,600
I think even for someone like
me, one of the claims that has

742
00:41:23,600 –> 00:41:28,480
started circulating about US aid
and independent media is that

743
00:41:28,480 –> 00:41:33,640
they fund Politico, which is a
very left-leaning news

744
00:41:33,680 –> 00:41:36,000
organization.
They’ve been around forever.

745
00:41:36,160 –> 00:41:40,160
The claim is that USAID paid
more than $8 million to

746
00:41:40,360 –> 00:41:43,400
Politico.
That’s not entirely false, but

747
00:41:43,400 –> 00:41:46,960
the $8 million represents
government expenditures to

748
00:41:46,960 –> 00:41:51,480
Politico since 2016, not
exclusively from USAID.

749
00:41:51,600 –> 00:41:56,320
USAID has paid to Politico
around $44,000.

750
00:41:56,520 –> 00:42:00,760
And what’s unnerving about this
is when they say USAID is paying

751
00:42:00,760 –> 00:42:03,040
money and the government is
paying money to Politico.

752
00:42:03,280 –> 00:42:08,320
Politico runs a subscription
service that offers like

753
00:42:08,440 –> 00:42:11,640
up-to-the-minute news on policy
changes.

754
00:42:11,880 –> 00:42:15,080
Governments use it, news
organizations use it.

755
00:42:15,200 –> 00:42:19,200
And in some cases, a login, a
single login costs up to

756
00:42:19,200 –> 00:42:24,240
$10,000.
So what’s actually happening is

757
00:42:24,640 –> 00:42:29,680
government agents are paying for
premium content on Politico for

758
00:42:29,680 –> 00:42:32,880
whatever reason, be it to
fucking spy on Politico or

759
00:42:32,880 –> 00:42:35,880
because they legitimately need
the information.

760
00:42:35,920 –> 00:42:39,440
That’s an insane like service.
That’s like an only fans that

761
00:42:39,440 –> 00:42:41,760
only Hillary Clinton wants.
Yeah.

762
00:42:42,040 –> 00:42:46,760
But also 2016 to 2020, four, $8
million, that’s $1,000,000 a

763
00:42:46,760 –> 00:42:47,840
year.
When you’re talking about a

764
00:42:47,840 –> 00:42:49,600
media company, that’s not a lot
of money.

765
00:42:49,760 –> 00:42:54,000
Yeah, and especially not if
you’re running a subscription

766
00:42:54,000 –> 00:42:57,040
service like there’s other media
outlets that run the same kind

767
00:42:57,040 –> 00:42:59,280
of service and they’re also very
expensive.

768
00:42:59,440 –> 00:43:02,760
But all that means in my mind
is, well, they’ll go after those

769
00:43:02,760 –> 00:43:07,280
media companies next then,
because if they can successfully

770
00:43:07,440 –> 00:43:12,600
sell the idea that, oh, USAID
was funding Politico illegally

771
00:43:12,760 –> 00:43:15,560
just because people were
subscribing to Politico’s

772
00:43:15,560 –> 00:43:18,840
content who were connected to
the government, they can run

773
00:43:18,840 –> 00:43:22,640
that on anyone.
Like, I don’t doubt that there’s

774
00:43:22,920 –> 00:43:27,880
some fucking government agent
subscribe to my paywall shit to

775
00:43:28,120 –> 00:43:32,240
hear all the fun and exciting
ways I’m calling Trump a Nazi.

776
00:43:32,400 –> 00:43:35,280
If any of those motherfuckers
work for USAID, is this

777
00:43:35,280 –> 00:43:37,440
eventually going to be a thing
where I get a letter from the

778
00:43:37,440 –> 00:43:40,400
government and they’re like,
hey, couldn’t help but notice

779
00:43:40,400 –> 00:43:43,080
there’s some people from USAID
who were giving you money over

780
00:43:43,080 –> 00:43:46,600
the years and not sure if you
know, but that’s a crime now.

781
00:43:46,800 –> 00:43:51,520
Like sounds crazy, but is it?
I don’t know, Like I feel like

782
00:43:52,000 –> 00:43:57,880
this USAID thing is going to end
up being an inroad to cracking

783
00:43:57,880 –> 00:44:01,520
down on journalists.
Because that visit to El

784
00:44:01,520 –> 00:44:06,880
Salvador, those WikiLeaks posts
about USAID and Elon Musk

785
00:44:06,880 –> 00:44:11,080
freaking out about USAID all
happened right around the same

786
00:44:11,080 –> 00:44:12,880
time.
It was when that story about

787
00:44:12,880 –> 00:44:16,280
them funding independent
journalists popped up on

788
00:44:16,280 –> 00:44:18,560
WikiLeaks.
That’s when all of these

789
00:44:18,560 –> 00:44:22,240
authoritarian fucks decided all
right, time to go after USAID.

790
00:44:22,360 –> 00:44:25,560
I think they’re just going to go
after journalists and position

791
00:44:25,560 –> 00:44:28,840
it as going after USAID.
Things that doesn’t make me as

792
00:44:28,840 –> 00:44:32,640
scary is because I know how much
corporations also control the

793
00:44:32,840 –> 00:44:35,480
US.
So like Google who owns YouTube

794
00:44:35,480 –> 00:44:38,760
doesn’t want you to become a
fucking rumble, which it would

795
00:44:38,760 –> 00:44:41,640
be if they kind of start
cracking down on people, you

796
00:44:41,640 –> 00:44:43,680
know, posting on left lane and
stuff.

797
00:44:43,680 –> 00:44:46,240
So they like, hey, you can slow
that down because they at the

798
00:44:46,240 –> 00:44:48,560
end of the day, they, the
corporations, really still

799
00:44:48,560 –> 00:44:51,600
control all of this shit, even
if Trump is a madman.

800
00:44:51,720 –> 00:44:56,840
That is the uncomfortable
position we find ourselves in is

801
00:44:56,840 –> 00:45:01,040
that we sort of have to hope
corporate America rises up

802
00:45:01,040 –> 00:45:04,480
against Trump because they’re
kind of the only ones powerful

803
00:45:04,480 –> 00:45:08,000
enough to do it.
We have to hope that King Gidora

804
00:45:08,000 –> 00:45:12,520
kills Godzilla and weakens
himself so much in the process.

805
00:45:13,120 –> 00:45:16,680
Exactly like it’s yeah, if they
do it, what are they going to

806
00:45:16,680 –> 00:45:19,760
replace it with?
I also even the thing where he’s

807
00:45:19,840 –> 00:45:24,160
firing all these USAID people
and ordering them to come back

808
00:45:24,160 –> 00:45:27,360
to the United States.
It’s like you’re firing all the

809
00:45:27,360 –> 00:45:31,200
people we train to overthrow
governments and telling them to

810
00:45:31,200 –> 00:45:35,520
come back to the United States.
He’s he’s kind of really helping

811
00:45:35,520 –> 00:45:38,920
us out in the long run.
Like, yeah, the government, they

812
00:45:38,920 –> 00:45:40,440
allow a certain level of
freedom.

813
00:45:40,440 –> 00:45:44,040
Like I’m working on a video
about black revolutionary art.

814
00:45:44,040 –> 00:45:46,840
And what started to happen in
the 70s with the New Hollywood

815
00:45:46,840 –> 00:45:50,280
movement is you all know about,
I think it was in the 30s when

816
00:45:50,280 –> 00:45:52,840
they basically were like locking
people up for being communists

817
00:45:52,840 –> 00:45:55,840
for making movies with, you
know, Italians living in

818
00:45:55,840 –> 00:45:57,760
different neighborhoods.
After a while, the government

819
00:45:57,760 –> 00:46:00,000
was like, all right, well, we’re
actually not the government.

820
00:46:00,000 –> 00:46:02,120
Hollywood was like, well, we’re
not making any money.

821
00:46:02,360 –> 00:46:05,480
So they brought in all of these
hippies like Steven Spielberg

822
00:46:05,480 –> 00:46:08,520
and Francis for a Coppola.
And after a while they were

823
00:46:08,520 –> 00:46:11,040
like, let’s just fucking make,
let them make movies.

824
00:46:11,080 –> 00:46:12,920
And that’s going to, you know
what I’m saying?

825
00:46:12,920 –> 00:46:15,200
That’s good for capitalism.
And then that’s when we started

826
00:46:15,200 –> 00:46:18,840
getting all of these good movies
with the Italians in the movie,

827
00:46:19,040 –> 00:46:21,880
in the actual movies fighting
for Italian American rights and

828
00:46:21,880 –> 00:46:23,800
shit like that.
So after a while they were just

829
00:46:23,800 –> 00:46:26,240
like, I mean, it’s, it’s just
good to let people have freedom

830
00:46:26,240 –> 00:46:28,560
with art and shit, you know?
Yeah, yeah.

831
00:46:28,560 –> 00:46:33,400
It’s just a matter of does this
administration feel that way?

832
00:46:33,560 –> 00:46:36,560
And if they don’t, who’s gonna
stop them?

833
00:46:36,640 –> 00:46:41,000
Like, Trump already made himself
the head of the Kennedy Center.

834
00:46:41,120 –> 00:46:42,640
What president fucking does
that?

835
00:46:42,760 –> 00:46:46,960
And it’s just so he like and So
what, so fucking Jason Aldean

836
00:46:46,960 –> 00:46:50,800
can play Kennedy Center?
I don’t, I don’t know.

837
00:46:51,360 –> 00:46:55,600
So, so we can have like, you
know, a special tribute to

838
00:46:55,600 –> 00:46:57,960
Phantom of the Opera and all the
shell, the kind of shit that he

839
00:46:57,960 –> 00:46:59,880
likes.
Yeah, exactly.

840
00:47:00,000 –> 00:47:04,600
And so, yeah, I personally think
the USAID thing is about

841
00:47:04,760 –> 00:47:08,360
journalists and cracking down on
journalism.

842
00:47:08,400 –> 00:47:12,400
And I would keep your eyes
peeled for that talking point to

843
00:47:12,400 –> 00:47:14,320
start going around.
It’s already going around about

844
00:47:14,320 –> 00:47:17,760
Politico is he was USAID funding
Politico.

845
00:47:17,920 –> 00:47:23,640
And I mean, if we’re sending
Venezuelans to El Salvador,

846
00:47:23,800 –> 00:47:28,120
who’s to say he won’t just throw
motherfuckers on a plane to El

847
00:47:28,120 –> 00:47:30,440
Salvador and be like, fight it
out in court?

848
00:47:30,760 –> 00:47:32,960
Good luck.
And by that I mean journalists.

849
00:47:33,160 –> 00:47:37,520
Like, he wasn’t supposed to send
the people from Venezuela to El

850
00:47:37,520 –> 00:47:39,840
Salvador either.
A judge said don’t.

851
00:47:39,880 –> 00:47:41,720
And he was like, yeah, sure
thing.

852
00:47:41,880 –> 00:47:44,640
I won’t so.
Well, Adam, you forget that

853
00:47:44,640 –> 00:47:47,360
Trump has traditionally had
glowing things to say about the

854
00:47:47,360 –> 00:47:50,360
press.
That’s a good point.

855
00:47:50,840 –> 00:47:51,480
That’s a good.
Point.

856
00:47:51,640 –> 00:47:54,200
It’s kind of, they’re sort of
one of his oldest friends.

857
00:47:54,400 –> 00:47:57,400
And yeah, all those media
outlets that just immediately

858
00:47:57,400 –> 00:48:00,640
gave him money as soon as he
came into office, Like, what was

859
00:48:00,640 –> 00:48:02,720
that bride for?
So they didn’t get fucking

860
00:48:02,800 –> 00:48:05,520
wrapped up in this and sent to a
prison in El Salvador.

861
00:48:05,800 –> 00:48:09,680
I did, I did, I Honestly, the
way that Mika and Joe from

862
00:48:09,680 –> 00:48:12,440
Morning Joe immediately
grovelled at his feet when he

863
00:48:12,440 –> 00:48:14,320
won it.
Do you think that they were

864
00:48:14,320 –> 00:48:17,840
worried about being afforded at
El Salvadorian fucking debtors

865
00:48:17,840 –> 00:48:20,240
presence?
Yeah, I mean, they did say it

866
00:48:20,240 –> 00:48:23,160
was because they were worried
about retribution from Trump.

867
00:48:23,320 –> 00:48:25,720
Yeah, so.
Who knows, I just wonder how

868
00:48:25,720 –> 00:48:28,600
much any of this we would really
have to deal with if they could

869
00:48:28,600 –> 00:48:31,240
just had a surgery that actually
made your penis bigger.

870
00:48:31,400 –> 00:48:34,920
I feel like if we actually could
just do that there would be who

871
00:48:34,920 –> 00:48:36,120
would want?
Who would need to overthrow a

872
00:48:36,120 –> 00:48:37,520
government?
You would just have sex with

873
00:48:37,520 –> 00:48:39,760
your wife.
Yeah, yeah, there’s a really

874
00:48:39,760 –> 00:48:43,480
great Yay Sayer song out there
called Blue Skies and Dandelions

875
00:48:43,600 –> 00:48:47,760
that is an anti Trump song.
But that’s the whole the message

876
00:48:47,760 –> 00:48:51,040
behind it is like, what can we
do to just make you a normal

877
00:48:51,040 –> 00:48:54,200
person so you stop.
Like what’s it you want to take

878
00:48:54,200 –> 00:48:55,760
pills?
Like what do you need?

879
00:48:56,040 –> 00:48:59,880
Like what is it he can?
Take some type of brain thing I.

880
00:48:59,920 –> 00:49:04,360
Think he’s got a big Dick.
I think I think I think plays

881
00:49:04,360 –> 00:49:06,240
the more the people in the USA.
But anyway I.

882
00:49:08,960 –> 00:49:11,360
Think I don’t know, I think he
his brain might just be turned

883
00:49:11,360 –> 00:49:14,400
into Bush and I don’t know what
the fuck is up with Elon.

884
00:49:14,400 –> 00:49:18,120
He let fucking Reddit turn him
into he didn’t act like this 10

885
00:49:18,120 –> 00:49:20,240
years ago.
Maybe we just didn’t know about

886
00:49:20,240 –> 00:49:20,880
him.
I don’t know.

887
00:49:21,280 –> 00:49:24,480
Yeah, he’s a lot like Aaron
Rodgers in that way.

888
00:49:24,600 –> 00:49:29,200
Aaron Rodgers for years just
never even talked publicly and

889
00:49:29,200 –> 00:49:33,080
then once he did it’s like shut
the fuck up go back to not

890
00:49:33,080 –> 00:49:36,360
talking dude God damn.
Because he was like Mr. Liberal

891
00:49:36,360 –> 00:49:38,280
darling during like, Obama
times.

892
00:49:38,280 –> 00:49:41,480
Like he was like Mr. Like, I
fucking love science, you know?

893
00:49:41,680 –> 00:49:43,200
Yeah, I remember all the
article.

894
00:49:43,200 –> 00:49:46,760
Like when I worked at Cracked,
people constantly pitched

895
00:49:46,760 –> 00:49:51,440
articles like 5 Reasons Why Elon
Musk Is Tony Stark.

896
00:49:51,880 –> 00:49:55,320
No, stop it.
Fucking that guy’s cool.

897
00:49:55,440 –> 00:49:59,880
Elon Musk is not cool.
So do we have any final thoughts

898
00:49:59,880 –> 00:50:02,200
on USAID?
I do honestly think that’s what

899
00:50:02,200 –> 00:50:04,240
it’s about.
I think it’s about independent

900
00:50:04,360 –> 00:50:06,760
journalism.
And we’re going to see this

901
00:50:06,760 –> 00:50:11,760
whole USAID thing shift toward a
crackdown on that because Nazis

902
00:50:11,760 –> 00:50:16,440
need to do shit like that.
Nazis can’t just have a like we

903
00:50:16,440 –> 00:50:19,240
don’t have a free media in the
1st place here.

904
00:50:19,240 –> 00:50:21,120
Like look at the press freedom
index.

905
00:50:21,120 –> 00:50:24,680
We are uncomfortably right in
the middle behind a lot of

906
00:50:24,680 –> 00:50:27,920
countries that you think would
be way worse, so we’re already

907
00:50:28,160 –> 00:50:30,360
teetering on the brink.
Yeah, I know.

908
00:50:30,520 –> 00:50:33,240
Yeah, I mean like like
especially if you, if you make

909
00:50:33,240 –> 00:50:36,800
content on different websites,
you already know how to how to

910
00:50:36,800 –> 00:50:39,240
self censor yourself.
We know with certain stuff we

911
00:50:39,240 –> 00:50:43,360
can’t say on YouTube if without
getting the video age

912
00:50:43,360 –> 00:50:45,120
restricted.
But still to an extent, like I

913
00:50:45,120 –> 00:50:48,720
said, even with all of that,
Google or YouTube is still the

914
00:50:48,720 –> 00:50:51,920
second biggest search engine in
the world after Google.

915
00:50:52,000 –> 00:50:53,600
Google and Google owns both of
them.

916
00:50:53,600 –> 00:50:57,720
So like I said, I feel like the
money, the corporate companies

917
00:50:57,720 –> 00:51:01,120
in the media to an extent,
they’re going to push if I think

918
00:51:01,120 –> 00:51:03,040
they’re going to push back a lot
because like I said, they don’t

919
00:51:03,040 –> 00:51:06,160
want everything to be rumble
because then if it’s all right

920
00:51:06,160 –> 00:51:07,600
wing shit, like what’s the
point?

921
00:51:07,760 –> 00:51:11,360
Yeah, I also feel like
corporations will adapt.

922
00:51:11,560 –> 00:51:14,880
And if it has to be all right
wing shit, they’ll find ways to

923
00:51:14,880 –> 00:51:18,280
make money off that.
Like they’ve been, I don’t know.

924
00:51:18,440 –> 00:51:22,040
I just, I don’t want to put my
faith in fucking corporations.

925
00:51:22,160 –> 00:51:25,400
Like, it reminds me of the thing
where people were so up in arms

926
00:51:25,400 –> 00:51:28,880
that Mark Zuckerberg, like,
immediately acquiesced to Trump

927
00:51:28,960 –> 00:51:30,760
and gave him money.
It’s like you thought Mark

928
00:51:30,760 –> 00:51:32,840
Zuckerberg was going to be the
fucking resistance.

929
00:51:33,040 –> 00:51:35,640
In what world?
Yeah, right.

930
00:51:35,760 –> 00:51:38,280
I got a couple.
I got a set of twins for you to

931
00:51:38,280 –> 00:51:41,760
talk to.
Corporations do what the

932
00:51:41,760 –> 00:51:44,960
government tells them to do.
Like they do what the government

933
00:51:44,960 –> 00:51:48,640
says to do to stay rich and keep
making money.

934
00:51:48,760 –> 00:51:52,760
And like, I think it’s the same
thing as like, well, do we

935
00:51:52,760 –> 00:51:55,640
really think all these
corporations were putting these

936
00:51:55,640 –> 00:51:59,360
like diversity programs in place
because they’re progressive?

937
00:51:59,560 –> 00:52:03,000
Or is it just because the
fucking government at the time

938
00:52:03,000 –> 00:52:06,640
and the general climate among
the public was, well, that’s

939
00:52:06,640 –> 00:52:08,760
what you got to do or we’re
going to boycott your shit?

940
00:52:08,880 –> 00:52:12,400
And now that Trump’s in office
and it’s like, oh, being nice to

941
00:52:12,400 –> 00:52:15,280
black people’s illegal now
fucking Target and all these

942
00:52:15,280 –> 00:52:18,240
companies are like, yeah, you’re
right, fuck it, No more DEI

943
00:52:18,240 –> 00:52:18,840
stuff.
Fuck.

944
00:52:19,160 –> 00:52:22,920
You rainbow capitalism they got.
They got rid of pride, they

945
00:52:23,200 –> 00:52:27,320
flags and shit and target.
Yeah, it’s fucking insane how

946
00:52:27,320 –> 00:52:30,000
quick that happened, but also,
they’re fucking corporate

947
00:52:30,000 –> 00:52:31,520
monsters.
Of course it happened.

948
00:52:31,520 –> 00:52:34,320
Well, I, I, you know, when,
when, Yeah, when Target was all

949
00:52:34,320 –> 00:52:36,280
gay.
I didn’t think that they would

950
00:52:36,280 –> 00:52:38,240
like it.
It felt a little insincere,

951
00:52:38,240 –> 00:52:40,120
didn’t it?
Yeah.

952
00:52:40,280 –> 00:52:43,040
When you walked into a target
and it was like love is love in

953
00:52:43,040 –> 00:52:45,840
the rainbow font and it’s like
you just googled but being gay

954
00:52:45,840 –> 00:52:49,120
is.
But also, I mean, the big

955
00:52:49,120 –> 00:52:51,080
devil’s advocated with black
folks.

956
00:52:51,080 –> 00:52:55,320
It is also kind of a what’s the
word?

957
00:52:55,480 –> 00:52:59,480
Like it feels weird to go in the
place and see fucking Juneteenth

958
00:52:59,600 –> 00:53:01,720
plates and cups.
Like, I don’t think that’s

959
00:53:01,720 –> 00:53:04,120
something we need.
We don’t need a corporate

960
00:53:04,160 –> 00:53:07,720
fucking Juneteenth gift card and
shit like that.

961
00:53:08,520 –> 00:53:10,600
Oh man, you’re going to hate
these Juneteenth cups.

962
00:53:10,600 –> 00:53:15,160
I got you.
I meant to ask you how was White

963
00:53:15,160 –> 00:53:19,840
Juneteenth the other day?
It was good, just a long day of

964
00:53:19,840 –> 00:53:22,320
doing nothing.
You can go out.

965
00:53:23,000 –> 00:53:25,680
Just hid with hidden with hidden
my house with the lights off and

966
00:53:25,680 –> 00:53:29,840
the windows drawing.
That’s Saint Patrick’s Day for

967
00:53:29,840 –> 00:53:31,400
the people that didn’t know what
I was talking about.

968
00:53:32,600 –> 00:53:34,000
Oh fuck, that is White
Juneteenth.

969
00:53:34,000 –> 00:53:37,840
What did you think I was talking
about?

970
00:53:38,240 –> 00:53:40,320
You know, I just kind of zoned
out and I thought it was, I

971
00:53:40,320 –> 00:53:42,200
guess I missed Juneteenth again
this year.

972
00:53:42,480 –> 00:53:44,720
Oh no, I heard.
I heard the mixed bat and I

973
00:53:44,720 –> 00:53:46,720
figured Irish.
Yo, you got it.

974
00:53:46,720 –> 00:53:48,640
Yeah.
I just, I don’t, I don’t want to

975
00:53:48,640 –> 00:53:51,360
out myself here as not being
woke, but I don’t usually have a

976
00:53:51,360 –> 00:53:54,080
Juneteenth party.
You should.

977
00:53:54,080 –> 00:53:57,240
Unfortunately I should though,
just to keep everybody on their

978
00:53:57,240 –> 00:53:58,440
toes.
Yeah.

979
00:53:58,640 –> 00:54:02,040
Well, White Juneteenth is is
Saint Patrick’s Day though.

980
00:54:02,240 –> 00:54:04,480
Yeah, yeah.
We party on.

981
00:54:04,560 –> 00:54:07,040
I mean, I didn’t party.
I’m damn near 50.

982
00:54:07,040 –> 00:54:09,160
I’m not going to give a fuck
about Saint Patrick’s Day and

983
00:54:09,160 –> 00:54:11,440
drink whenever the fuck I want.
Kidding me, I don’t have an

984
00:54:11,440 –> 00:54:13,360
office job.
I’ll get Saint Patrick’s Day

985
00:54:13,360 –> 00:54:17,280
drunk on a Wednesday.
It’s like 420 for people.

986
00:54:17,280 –> 00:54:20,840
Like who the fuck over 25 gets
excited for 4/20?

987
00:54:21,400 –> 00:54:24,320
Yeah, it’s a bit sad.
Columbine enthusiasts.

988
00:54:24,520 –> 00:54:27,840
Oh yeah, probably not Elon.
Hitler fans.

989
00:54:27,840 –> 00:54:29,800
Yeah, it’s Hitler.
Yeah.

990
00:54:30,000 –> 00:54:34,360
Yeah, I’m sure Elon celebrates.
So, yeah, Nazi shit.

991
00:54:34,360 –> 00:54:36,320
That’s what’s going on in this
country right now.

992
00:54:36,480 –> 00:54:42,320
And I think that is our episode.
John Connor, thank you both so

993
00:54:42,320 –> 00:54:45,320
much for doing the pod.
This seems like the most

994
00:54:45,320 –> 00:54:47,360
appropriate time to plug some
shit.

995
00:54:47,800 –> 00:54:52,120
I would just like people to
follow me on Blue Sky at

996
00:54:52,160 –> 00:54:56,760
adamtodbrownbskysocial.
That’s Todd with 1D and also

997
00:54:56,920 –> 00:55:01,200
lots of new podcasts and things
coming U on the network O keep

998
00:55:01,200 –> 00:55:03,400
an eye out for that.
And that’s all I got.

999
00:55:03,520 –> 00:55:06,480
Connor, what do you want to?
Plug Watch my comedy special on

1000
00:55:06,480 –> 00:55:07,520
YouTube.
That’s it.

1001
00:55:07,720 –> 00:55:09,520
John.
Search me on YouTube.

1002
00:55:09,520 –> 00:55:11,800
That’s the best way.
If you can support, and I’m John

1003
00:55:11,800 –> 00:55:14,160
Lewis on pretty much every
social media.

1004
00:55:14,360 –> 00:55:17,320
I don’t know if you search me on
the social media, that’s not the

1005
00:55:17,320 –> 00:55:18,280
Nazi shit.
I’m there.

1006
00:55:18,520 –> 00:55:21,160
Well, not the old, not the new
Nazi shit.

1007
00:55:21,160 –> 00:55:24,280
I’m on the old, I’m on the, I’m
not on the I’m on the old Nazi

1008
00:55:24,280 –> 00:55:26,080
one that been around before was
Nazi shit.

1009
00:55:26,160 –> 00:55:28,480
I’m on Twitter but not on the
other Nazi shit.

1010
00:55:28,640 –> 00:55:31,640
Facebook and Instagram.
Yeah, we’re not the ones that

1011
00:55:31,760 –> 00:55:34,320
you I can’t even think of like
they got these weird ones.

1012
00:55:35,600 –> 00:55:38,640
Truth Social and shit like that.
Yeah, that There’s some other

1013
00:55:38,640 –> 00:55:40,760
weird ones and Rumble lying on
that bullshit.

1014
00:55:40,760 –> 00:55:42,480
Follow me and Connor on truth
social.

1015
00:55:42,480 –> 00:55:45,360
Also I forgot about that we have
a joint truth social account or

1016
00:55:45,360 –> 00:55:48,680
conspiracy this show.
The only way that we can keep

1017
00:55:48,680 –> 00:55:50,200
each other honest on the
Internet.

1018
00:55:50,400 –> 00:55:52,840
Isn’t that right, Adam?
Yeah, it’s the only way we talk

1019
00:55:52,840 –> 00:55:56,200
outside of podcasts.
DMS on Truth Social.

1020
00:55:56,200 –> 00:55:59,160
I don’t know if they have DMS.
Alright, let’s get the fuck out

1021
00:55:59,160 –> 00:56:01,200
of here.
John, say goodbye.

1022
00:56:01,440 –> 00:56:03,720
Do the knowledge guys?
Connor, say goodbye.

1023
00:56:03,880 –> 00:56:06,680
Do the knowledge guys?
Goodbye everybody, we love you.