Conspiracy! The Show 352: Is Obama Guilty of Treason?

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I.
Hey everybody, welcome to

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Conspiracy the Show.
I’m your host Adam Todd Brown

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joining me as Co host this week.
Connor Mcpadden’s here.

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How’s it going, man?
Newly promoted conspiracy The

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show head of sales Connor
Mcpadden.

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Yeah, if we were doing video for
this, people would see that

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Connor has been promoted to head
of sales.

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I still have No title, which
that doesn’t feel right

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whatsoever.
Because how can we sum it up,

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Adam, what you do?
In a word, it couldn’t be done.

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That’s true.
That is a fantastic, fantastic

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point.
Hey, we also have a couple of

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guests this week.
I think this is the first time

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in years we’ve had four people
on this podcast, but here we

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are.
Case in point, returning guest

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Dante Wimberley.
How’s it going?

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Hello everyone, glad to be back.
Glad to have you also joining

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us, Colormind.
How’s it going you?

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I don’t think you’ve been on
Conspiracy yet, right?

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I’ve been on Conspiracy.
I think I was on something.

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I think I was on Like a Mailbag
episode with like John Lewis.

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Oh, that’s right.
Yeah, an episode of You don’t

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even like this show.
That podcast doesn’t exist

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anymore.
Colormind killed it.

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I’m.
Just joking that wasn’t.

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It’s OK, I’m a hard act to
follow.

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I understand.
So we are talking about Obama

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this week and Trump’s threats to
arrest Obama for treason, which

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in a lot of cases I’d be like.
Sure, we could probably arrest

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Obama for something, but I don’t
want Trump to do it, not for

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this bullshit.
What’s everyone else’s take?

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Big overall take.
Should Obama go to prison for

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this?
Even the cleanest president is

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dirty.
I mean, well, we’re all

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grown-ups.
We know this.

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Yeah, I’m surprised he’s not
calling him out for treason

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more.
I mean, this seems like he hates

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Obama.
That’s like the reason he got in

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the game is he was so sunned by
his remarks that he like enacted

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this like decades long death
campaign of revenge that we’re

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all like suffering.
It is pretty wild to realize

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that like we have video footage
of the moment Donald Trump

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became a villain or became like
our particular timeline’s main

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villain, like being that
correspondents dinner.

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Very much so you could see the
moment in his head.

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And he was like, oh, I’m taking
away all their rights.

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Oh, they’re going to rue this
day.

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We’re he’s like I’m calling the
white devil for this one.

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We’re going with you.
We’re going with the old

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tactics.
We’re bringing in Yakub, not

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Yakub.
That’s hilarious Yakubi and evil

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is the only thing that can.
We need to do a Yakub episode

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sometime.
You definitely got to have a

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little bit long for that one for
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I find it’s hard to get a
unified field theory of Yacoob.

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Every different teacher and
prophet of Yacoob has kind of

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got their own stink on it.
So I I don’t really know who’s

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teaching from like the fucking,
you know, the King James Bible

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of it, you know.
So this is kind of some

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confusing bullshit.
I’ll go through how these claims

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work real quick.
Prior to Trump’s first term, the

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intelligence community was of
the opinion that Russia favored

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Trump in the 2016 election and
sought to manipulate the process

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to ensure he won.
And an unclassified version of

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that intelligence community
assessment was released in

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January 2017.
And it pointed to three

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motivations for Putin and Russia
interfering in the election

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process.
One, undermine public faith in

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democracy. 2 Damage Hillary
Clinton’s reputation. 3 Russia

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wanted Trump to win.
And somehow, it’s that Third

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Point that this all centers
around.

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Two out of three ain’t bad.
Honestly, yeah.

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I guess so.
In early December 2016, after

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Trump won but before he took
office, the Obama administration

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directed intelligence agencies
to produce a comprehensive

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report on Russia’s election
interference.

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And the argument here seems to
be that they rushed to produce

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this assessment and in the
process cut a bunch of corners

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in the process that led to
information being in the

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assessment that might not have
been if regular procedures were

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followed.
That does not sound like treason

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shit to me.
To be very sounds like

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bureaucracy, sounds like what
the government regularly does.

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But what’s an example that he
has?

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Yeah, I would have tried to
finish it before Trump took

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office.
What he the fuck do you think

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he’s going to do with it?
Use it for toilet paper.

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I’m curious as to what kind of
information was in the report

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that otherwise would not have
been if proper procedure was

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followed.
It seems like they’re referring

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to the Steele dossier, which was
a collection of information put

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together by this spy or
investigative journalist, some

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shit named Michael Steele.
And that’s where the claim that

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there’s a tape out there of
Trump getting pissed on by.

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Sex workers.
That thing OK, you know it’s

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true.
That was it.

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You know it’s true that it kids,
it tracks yo, we got to get our

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hands on that tape.
It has to exist because that’s

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like, that’s like Epste MO like
get you doing some like crazy

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shit on the.
Everything that I was thinking,

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even though I believe at the
time, correct me if I’m wrong,

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but at the time it was like I
might have just this back when I

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let myself be abused by Twitter.
Like what we connecting it to

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like Putin had that tape on
Trump or something, or like

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Putin got Trump to do a golden
shower.

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And then back then our our
hypothesis was like that this

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must be the leverage he has.
This was like he was not even

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exaggerating.
This was the top story in Rich

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Romato every night for like 6
months.

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I used to watch the show and I,
you know, I gotta, you gotta

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admit your own failure, your
failures as a human being.

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But I, I watched this show and
that when Trump went, I wanted

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to be all informed or whatever.
And it was just like every

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fucking night.
It was on this P tape.

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And I, I don’t know, I’ve always
been fairly P tape agnostic.

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But if God is good and the P
tape is real and we get to see

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it, doesn’t it kind of make
almost all of it worth it?

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Isn’t the whole thing a little
bit worth it if we get to see

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this tape?
I don’t know about worth it.

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I’ll say it makes sense.
I’ll say it it it would it would

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make more sense by the end of
this.

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So to me, it’s just funny.
A lot of people get peed on

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people.
I feel like, yeah, it’s a

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proclivity.
It’s a sick proclivity.

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And the fact that you’re the
president and like, if people

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were to know that, they would
look at you different.

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I personally don’t think it’s
that big of a deal.

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I think his.
Like you’re in the sterile, it’s

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not like you’re getting shit on
that’s that’s dangerous.

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People love fucking squirting.
And there’s always the debate,

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like it’s kind of obviously
maybe not the same thing, but

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it’s very similar in terms of
like juices flowing.

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But either way like.
I think 4 guys is who we need to

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get get to the bottom of it.
No, but here, but here.

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Here’s the thing.
Let Let’s call a spade a spade

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if Obama got caught.
Whoa, whoa, don’t.

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Don’t be calling him that.
That’s not nice.

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It got caught with a, with AP
tape.

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Listen, there’s a way he can
finesse out of that.

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You know why?
Because like he’s a, he’s not a

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progressive, but he’s a like
back in the day, we, we, we

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thought liberals and
progressives were closer than

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they were.
And he could have easily flipped

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that into being like, you know,
listen, King positive.

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I don’t think we should.
I don’t think we should.

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I, you know, just just go with
the whole identity thing.

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The reason why it’s not going to
work with Trump, right?

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It’s because should that tape
come out because I I’m on

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Dante’s side.
Listen, I don’t I don’t King

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shame.
I mean, do what you want, like

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with consent between two adults.
But if I found out, but if we

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found out Trump getting peed on.
Meanwhile, he’s he, he holds his

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higher ground about like listen,
peeing on yourself is not in the

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Bible.
That that that that’s what I’ll

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say.
Hey, not one chapter.

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I read the link to the audio
book.

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Not one thing said you’re
supposed to get peed on.

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So that’s why it’ll it’ll seem
more hybrid.

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Not all the priests in the land
that edited the Bible even came

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up with that in like the in the
years after the fact when they

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were putting their shit
together, there was.

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There’s nothing in Leviticus.
There’s no letter from anyone

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being like and also don’t
fucking pee on it.

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They didn’t even get to that.
It was so perverted.

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More like Levita piss.
I think if the pee tape came

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out, it wouldn’t matter because
he number 1, he would just deny

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it.
He would say it’s not real.

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He would say it’s fake news.
Somebody that was in his

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government, like they was buddy
buddy together said that he was

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in the Epstein files.
It’s like common knowledge that

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he was in the Epstein files.
Like every day some shit comes

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out about how recently they was
like, I don’t have a sexual age

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limit.
Like, Oh yeah, he he said that.

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He said I don’t have a sexual
age limit.

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Jeffrey Epstein said on audio
that he would.

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They were best friends for it.
Like a decade.

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Yeah, the fucking, the fucking
letter, the fucking letter he

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sent to Epstein, like for
anybody actually paying

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attention, like like for.
Anybody who’s not paying

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attention, it says like
everybody’s, hey, if I.

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Come to you and say, hey, look,
there’s this guy who’s been

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like, like humping a bunch of
fire hydrants.

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He’s been doing it for years.
Everybody kind of knows he humps

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fire hydrants, but like.
Is that the Vice President

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right?
And I was just.

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But it’s like if, if, if I told
you all the street be like, OK,

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cool.
Like, yeah, this guy’s it’s a

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serial fire, fire hydrant
humper.

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And like, there’s this other
important guy, the mayor of your

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town, he’s friends with bro.
And they wrote and and your

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mayor wrote the fire hydrant
humper, sure, a letter on his

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birthday and said, hey, man, we
had a lot of good times

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together, got a lot of secrets,
you know, about that fire

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hydrant that you know, only only
men like us know.

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I don’t need no content to be
like, OK, so clearly the mayor’s

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also humping fire hydrants.
And that’s why I want to spend

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back on what Dante even said
about like them being long time

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friends and like how everybody
knows Trump is in the Epstein

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files.
I don’t I’m starting to even get

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a little jaded by that phrasing
because I still think it’s not

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aggressive enough.
Like what?

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Because like when we say Trump
is in the Epstein files, let’s

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keep it a beam, right?
We don’t mean that he’s like I

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like some other random
government representative might

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just went to went to a a mixer.
Maybe they got pulled over to

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the island.
Whatever.

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I’m not going cap for them.
But like when we say Trump isn’t

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in the files, we’re like he’s
going to have quotes.

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He’s talking about stuff,
Jeffrey, not even to to, to

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blackmail, because that was
literally his man’s his friend

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probably has a whole bunch of
stories like boys room stories

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about what’s going on with
Trump, meaning that Trump was

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engaged in illicit acts and
that’s why he doesn’t want it to

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be exposed.
And even by us talking about it,

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like we’re all sort of tacitly
agreeing that like there’s a

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more than likely chance that the
president of our United States

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probably has has.
Well, we know he’s a felon.

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He’s a 3034 times felon, but
he’s probably done something

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that now like white people will
be mad that that he’s been

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felonies about.
Allegedly he’s in.

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It’s implicated that he’s
engaged in child sexual.

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Abuse and we don’t, I feel like
we just do not say that enough

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and that’s and that’s why the
store is going to like go quiet

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if we don’t push it.
And meanwhile, Huma Habenin is

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emailing Hillary Clinton.
We need a map of all the fire

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hydrants in New York City.
Yeah, it is.

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It is.
It is like when you when you put

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it in those we and we start to
think of this like list the in

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what universe did this guy have
a just a Google doc that said

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people on blackmailing?
Like there’s no fucking list

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like that that exists in a
cartoon evil plan.

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Bro play GTA one time and think
they understand.

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But to that end, like what would
make a Trumper say, you know

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what, like I can’t do this
anymore because it feels like

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they’re dug.
They’re dug into the point where

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like.
We would start to hear the word,

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a word of FEBA file a lot more.
They’d just be like, well, it’s

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to a 16 year old who’s in the
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No, this isn’t.
I thought we loved that in 2014.

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I’m so sorry.
No, Roy Cohn.

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They, they tried.
That’s the first time they tried

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it.
But he didn’t have the the, the

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juice, the charisma to pull it
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Do we think Trump would be hurt
by this if it came out that he

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was in the Epstein files in some
sort of really profound way?

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Or I kind of think what’s
happening with Obama now is sort

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of a setup for us finding out
what’s in the Epstein files

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about Trump, because he’s just
going to say it’s also fake

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intelligence put together by the
Obama administration and just

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further proof that he committed.
Treason.

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Yeah, he’s trying he’s trying to
create a lot of pretext in my

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head.
Actually, I was thinking about

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the fact that he’s doing all
this AI like he’s he’s he’s

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getting on this AI bandwagon
really hard really fast as like

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this is just me on my psyop shit
being like the more the more

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he’s able to develop AI or like
put it in front of America,

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anything, any other.
He also knows any other

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information that comes back out,
he can now just say like that’s

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AI and AI is going to be like on
top of everybody’s mind and just

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make them question for the
second that is not there.

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I think in addition to AI, this
is like, you know and you know

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when a magician starts doing
stuff and he’s like, hey, for no

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reason, here’s a couple hot
chicks just on stage with the

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gitties out and the butt cheeks
hanging loose.

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It begs the question of if you
have a true social account, what

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can sway you from saying, like,
I’ve had enough?

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Like if they, I mean, I’m sure
there are a lot of Trump

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supporters who would consider
themselves reasonable and

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rational and when presented with
enough information, they would

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have to have a confrontation
with themselves.

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But like, how many Trump
supporters is that really?

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I think if I think if he gets
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he loses like like maybe like a
third of his base, like his

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hardcore people maybe.
I was with you, so you said 16

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year old girl.
I don’t even know if that’s the

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win condition, but.
It would have to be really bad

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if it was.
If it was consenting adults like

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they don’t give a fuck, they
would.

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They would find a way to spin it
and be like it’s actually based

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that he fucking got pissed on in
Russia.

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If he’s getting pissed on by
adults, I actually I wouldn’t

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care at all.
That’s the first cool thing I’ve

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ever learned about him.
Yeah, I like, you know, I I’m

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sure the pride flag would
welcome him with open arms.

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Find out another guy.
There is a yellow stripe on it.

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Scans the dude on TikTok who
does basically like Trump voice

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overs but he’s doing it as a gay
man, like with the mannerisms of

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a gay man and it’s like he’s
crazy.

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He’s super queenie.
Yeah, for sure, for sure.

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All of his old tweets are like
Liza Minnelli’s.

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Totally watched now.
Always some gay shit.

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He’s like talking about
societies.

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If he wasn’t president bro, like
he would be like remember when

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he was a celebrity?
Like he people liked it when he

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was a celebrity, remember?
I mean, to be fair, I I don’t

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want to remember that because
that’s exactly how we got here

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in the 1st place.
Like it’s kind of an issue.

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But it’s like it wasn’t always
like this.

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Like if he wasn’t the president,
like it would be like whatever,

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but the fact that he’s in charge
of like the the biggest military

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in the world would like.
A umpteen number of like 100

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thousands of bureaucrats like
and like a domestic military

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force.
Like it wouldn’t be so dire.

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I’ll even be the guy that goes
systemic even instead of

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individual.
I’m more disappointed that like

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I can’t believe that this 200
year old ass business called

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America could let itself become
a monarchy.

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I’ll say basically in four years
right?

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Like we have 3 branches, we have
400 fucking people that are

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supposed to represent really not
supposed to.

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They don’t represent shit, but
they’re supposed to act as stop

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gaps from like one person
accumulating a whole bunch of

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power.
Because like that was the whole

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thing.
We were white people through the

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fucking tea in the river for.
And like now you’re just

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watching because like, the more
I think about it, and I was I

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was a nerd that liked government
in high school.

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I liked AP Gov right?
Like I right, like, you know,

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newsroom and also Rachel Maddow
in my house did get me.

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But the whole point was that
there’s supposed to be a whole

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bunch of stop gaps so power
can’t be accumulated into one

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person.
And Trump, to Dante’s point,

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shouldn’t be able to just be a
celebrity who now has new codes

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and can now control the
military.

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Right?
Like, that’s weird that we’re

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even in the situation.
But most people think it’s weird

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because they’re like, I can’t
believe we let such an asshole

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like get the key.
I’m more like, man, I can’t

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believe we let one person have
that much power.

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Yeah.
OK, so here’s the thing.

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Power shouldn’t be concentrated
in anyone’s hands.

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There should be no military.
There should be no domestic

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police force that has, like,
guns out the wazoo.

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That’s what should happen.
But like, the fact that we’ve

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concentrated power into these
institutions and we’ve dressed

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it up as like democracy, we’ve
told ourselves this thing that

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like, this would never happen.
And the fact that a person was

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able to do it because they have
no regard it kind.

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And it’s like, yeah, like Trump
is the first, I would say, like

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illiberal, like a true
illiberal.

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Like even Republicans and
conservatives, they were all

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like still liberal in the sense
of they believe the rules to the

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game.
There are some who violated the

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rules.
Like there’s like minutiae

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within government and how you
organize power, little

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authoritarianism, like as a
treat, you know, like just, and

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it’s just like, OK, this mass
notion of democracy where it’s

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like, sure, people were able to
do undemocratic things or things

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we wouldn’t call democratic, but
the fact that like we still have

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this idea of ourselves is like
democratic.

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And it’s funny how like the
Russia thing was like they

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wanted to like disavow people’s
faith in democracy.

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And I’m just like, I question
what this faith in democracy or

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this notion of democracy was
kind of built on because like, I

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don’t know.
It’s really just a question of

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like, oh.
Representation well, to be fair,

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they’re not talking about our
like faith in democracy like

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people like me and you Dante
right, because I like we we have

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no I don’t have a strong basis
for the faith of this democracy

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in general but like you know
about the teachers, you know

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like something you know luckily,
eventually I got my other two

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fifths back but like the the
real idea is that.

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Wouldn’t that I didn’t prove
that.

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When did that happen?
It’s like the white moderate,

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the white moderate is having
their confidence shooken right

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now, right?
They’re like, wow, actually, I

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can’t believe all these rules.
I truly do believe like the

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average Democrat kind of thought
like if you broke the rules of

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quorum, like somebody would
shoot you.

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Like not like a police officer.
Like somehow like the the the

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elders that be would like
actually like that deep state,

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which is like just like a bunch
of fancy hall monitors.

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But like the fact that most of
these rules were just sort of

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quid pro quos or just like
gentlemen’s agreement to we’re

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trying to run a country.
Could you not be an asshole?

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And that’s really all the sort
of defense we had is shaking a

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lot of people who Democrats who
really love to follow rules

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right.
They really like structure are

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now like oh God this been held
up with toothpaste and

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toothpicks.
There’s always the question of

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the ruling class, right?
For as long as there’s been

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business as usual, especially
within the Democrats and

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Republican Party, like there
hasn’t been much, I would say,

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change to the rules of the game
that allows businesses to

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operate without much like, you
know, like, I don’t know,

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institutions, right?
The ruling class is able to use

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institutions, right?
Where it’s like, I feel like the

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new ruling class is kind of
going back to the Gilded Age.

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Whereas before we had like some
siblings of like, you know, FDR

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the weekend, like, you know,
workers rights, all these things

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that people have fought for.
We had some sibilance of that.

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And the ruling class was still
able to like maintain some level

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of profit.
But now we’re seeing like the

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richest people coming together
in the conglomerate and like

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implementing some of the worst
extreme, like no semblance of

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justice, no siblings of
democracy.

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No, none of that.
Pure, pure autocracy, pure

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Gilded Age capitalism and
political corruption.

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So I feel like that’s kind of
the difference we’re seeing

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where it’s like, yeah, it was
never, it was never democratic,

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but on some level the ruling
class had a level of stability

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that they were willing to allow.
So it’ll be interesting to see

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like, especially with the
militarization, like this new

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Gilded Age and the response to
that Gilded Age and how protests

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are going to be like crushed by
like this mass police state that

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we’re seeing building,
especially being tested in DC.

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So yeah, it’s it’s definitely
interesting.

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I’m sorry.
Bah Bah, Bah Bah Bah.

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Yeah.
Go.

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No.
No, no, you was fitting.

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Yeah, no, I mean, you guys are
both talking about the the white

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moderate, which was Martin,
Martin Luther King’s favorite

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group.
I’m screaming.

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But it is like it is like the
entire all all of human history,

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the urban burgers, the like
landed Gentry, like were, you

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know, like had had had sway,
like you said.

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And now all this whole like
facade of governments and safety

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and the the fucking the the
people are at the gates almost.

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It’s almost like if you don’t
have enough money, you’re just

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not in the club anymore.
You like if you don’t own a

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house and whatever, pay your
taxes like you’re get the fuck

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out.
We’re we’re, we got a FEMA camp

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for you in Florida, buddy.
So, yeah, the Steele dossier is

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kind of what this all centers
around.

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And even that is such a fucking
technicality because John

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Brennan, who was CIA director at
the time, said none of the

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information from the Steele
dossier was actually used to

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compile this intelligence
community assessment.

429
00:20:58,000 –> 00:21:02,960
But they did include the Steele
dossier in this report they put

430
00:21:02,960 –> 00:21:06,760
out.
And there’s one cent that says

431
00:21:06,960 –> 00:21:10,160
for additional reporting on
Russian plans and intentions,

432
00:21:10,680 –> 00:21:14,960
please see Annex A Additional
reporting from an FBI source on

433
00:21:14,960 –> 00:21:18,160
Russian influence efforts.
That’s the Steele dossier that

434
00:21:18,160 –> 00:21:21,520
they’re directing people to.
And that sentence is what this

435
00:21:21,520 –> 00:21:25,240
whole fucking thing is about.
They feel like that sentence

436
00:21:25,240 –> 00:21:29,880
proves that they did use the
Steele dossier to put together

437
00:21:29,880 –> 00:21:33,720
this intelligence community
assessment, and that because

438
00:21:33,720 –> 00:21:36,400
they did that, Obama somehow
committed.

439
00:21:36,880 –> 00:21:40,160
Reason they put it in a whole
separate annex that that seems

440
00:21:40,160 –> 00:21:42,960
pretty like I don’t know.
I’m not like saying like they

441
00:21:43,040 –> 00:21:45,840
they put the shit in there, but
they made it like it’s own

442
00:21:45,840 –> 00:21:47,880
thing.
It’s it’s the Monster manual.

443
00:21:47,880 –> 00:21:50,920
It’s not the Player’s handbook.
It’s not the guide.

444
00:21:51,120 –> 00:21:53,400
I mean, I, I only went to public
schools, so maybe my like

445
00:21:53,400 –> 00:21:56,200
critical reading skills are just
not, are not there.

446
00:21:56,560 –> 00:22:01,080
But like, that’s not, that’s not
the Steele dossier, that that’s

447
00:22:01,080 –> 00:22:02,240
one, that’s not the Steele
dossier.

448
00:22:02,520 –> 00:22:06,840
But two, that’s also not even
conspiracy.

449
00:22:07,400 –> 00:22:10,920
Like it’s not even, it’s not
even an attempt at anything, are

450
00:22:10,920 –> 00:22:12,360
we?
And like, it kind of makes it

451
00:22:12,360 –> 00:22:14,960
scary because I, I did have a
whole other digression that I

452
00:22:14,960 –> 00:22:18,120
like let go of, of talking about
like the idea of like, what’s

453
00:22:18,120 –> 00:22:20,920
that intellectualism becoming
like basically this

454
00:22:20,920 –> 00:22:23,320
administration’s platform and
like what, what they’re trying

455
00:22:23,320 –> 00:22:25,960
to have their legacy to be?
Because I mean, because this

456
00:22:25,960 –> 00:22:27,120
goes hand in hand with that,
right?

457
00:22:27,120 –> 00:22:30,920
He’s basically saying, Hey, you
put a footnote that makes me

458
00:22:30,920 –> 00:22:33,920
feel dumb, you goddamn
academics, this must be treason.

459
00:22:34,080 –> 00:22:37,480
You not, not you guys using your
smart elitist ivory Towery

460
00:22:37,680 –> 00:22:40,360
citations to try to try to make
me look bad.

461
00:22:40,560 –> 00:22:42,800
Yeah, this is like this is an
MLA format.

462
00:22:42,800 –> 00:22:45,680
Fuck you MLAMLA.
You mean Marx?

463
00:22:45,960 –> 00:22:51,400
Lennon.
It is a bullshit claim because

464
00:22:51,600 –> 00:22:54,160
the reports the Trump
administration released about

465
00:22:54,160 –> 00:22:58,160
this are based only on
intelligence available in the

466
00:22:58,160 –> 00:23:02,560
run up to the election.
And Trump’s big argument here is

467
00:23:02,880 –> 00:23:05,920
Putin didn’t want me to win.
That’s not why he did that.

468
00:23:06,080 –> 00:23:11,800
Meanwhile, in 2018, at a meeting
with Trump, a news conference,

469
00:23:11,960 –> 00:23:16,240
Trump and Putin together, Putin
was asked, he said through a

470
00:23:16,240 –> 00:23:19,960
translator that he wanted Trump
to win quote, because he talked

471
00:23:19,960 –> 00:23:23,840
about bringing the US Russia
relationship back to normal.

472
00:23:23,960 –> 00:23:27,080
So we’re absolutely splitting
hairs here.

473
00:23:27,240 –> 00:23:30,960
And I just still feel like it’s
going to end up in someone

474
00:23:30,960 –> 00:23:33,840
getting fucking arrested.
Throw at least try it.

475
00:23:34,400 –> 00:23:38,200
But who gets arrested here?
What The staffer?

476
00:23:39,160 –> 00:23:41,320
Are they going to arrest?
Michael Steel Brigade men for

477
00:23:41,320 –> 00:23:43,080
questioning.
Yeah, because if they’re like,

478
00:23:43,240 –> 00:23:46,240
well, we’re going to arrest the
former director of the CIA, then

479
00:23:46,240 –> 00:23:48,240
I’m going to be like, well, he
probably did something to

480
00:23:48,240 –> 00:23:50,480
deserve it.
If it’s anything like a writers

481
00:23:50,480 –> 00:23:53,120
room or something like I’ve
someone told me like to which

482
00:23:53,200 –> 00:23:55,520
was this your shit joke from
five years ago?

483
00:23:55,920 –> 00:23:59,920
I’d be like, I feel like it has
my fingerprints on it, but it’s

484
00:23:59,920 –> 00:24:02,240
not all mine.
I don’t know, like kind maybe.

485
00:24:02,240 –> 00:24:05,000
Like I couldn’t tell you.
Is it anything that you could

486
00:24:05,000 –> 00:24:06,920
even, like, discern at this
point in time?

487
00:24:06,920 –> 00:24:08,960
Like who added the fucking Annex
A line?

488
00:24:09,160 –> 00:24:11,200
It’s probably the whole thing.
Everyone’s like, well, you know,

489
00:24:11,200 –> 00:24:13,000
Larry was the one who put his
Annex A line.

490
00:24:13,920 –> 00:24:16,640
Oh, wait, OK, I think I think I
might see the play now.

491
00:24:16,800 –> 00:24:21,200
Is this just like the same
playbook as what Trump is doing?

492
00:24:21,400 –> 00:24:23,160
Because now with the Epstein
thing, they’re going to do

493
00:24:23,160 –> 00:24:27,920
discovery for some reason I
forgot is like he trying to get

494
00:24:27,920 –> 00:24:31,520
people to shut about Epstein.
He tried to to file a suit to

495
00:24:31,520 –> 00:24:33,640
say not to release the
information basically, or the

496
00:24:33,640 –> 00:24:39,040
way that it was, but it ended up
when, when the prosecution took

497
00:24:39,040 –> 00:24:40,480
it to court.
That means like they like

498
00:24:40,480 –> 00:24:42,280
they’re actually going to try it
out, which means there’ll be

499
00:24:42,280 –> 00:24:44,080
discovery.
So we get to we would get to see

500
00:24:44,400 –> 00:24:45,920
all the different side each
people have.

501
00:24:46,280 –> 00:24:50,160
Maybe Trump is trying to do the
same is posturing like he could

502
00:24:50,160 –> 00:24:51,400
do the same thing in this
situation.

503
00:24:51,600 –> 00:24:53,760
Whereas like, you know, you
could think the Strisian

504
00:24:53,760 –> 00:24:56,480
allegation is, is is bullshit.
But hey, if I take it all the

505
00:24:56,480 –> 00:24:58,800
way up and we got to do
discovery, then we’ll have to

506
00:24:58,800 –> 00:25:02,720
see all unclassified information
that, that, that that you had

507
00:25:02,720 –> 00:25:04,920
on, on my report, which I can
then now I don’t care about the

508
00:25:04,920 –> 00:25:06,400
decision.
Not going to say, Hey, look at

509
00:25:06,400 –> 00:25:09,680
all the mean stuff the Democrats
and Obama and Hillary said about

510
00:25:09,680 –> 00:25:11,400
me.
Can’t you clearly see that

511
00:25:11,400 –> 00:25:14,640
they’re trying to destroy me and
then nothing else matters to his

512
00:25:14,640 –> 00:25:16,360
base.
Where’s the fucked up thing?

513
00:25:16,360 –> 00:25:18,680
Like I can’t, I don’t we need,
we don’t even need to talk about

514
00:25:18,680 –> 00:25:21,880
like how the normal person will
respond to this with the actual

515
00:25:23,440 –> 00:25:25,440
political will.
It is to like go through with

516
00:25:25,440 –> 00:25:27,240
this.
I only have to care about the

517
00:25:27,240 –> 00:25:31,000
20% of people that are on true
social and the one orange man in

518
00:25:31,000 –> 00:25:34,000
the chair and how they react
because that’s the pace we’re

519
00:25:34,000 –> 00:25:36,200
playing by.
I mean, the guys in the fire

520
00:25:36,200 –> 00:25:37,840
hydrants, I mean, you know what
I mean?

521
00:25:37,840 –> 00:25:39,960
Like what are we even talking
about this for?

522
00:25:40,720 –> 00:25:42,880
That’s what I’m saying there.
There’s there’s a bunch of fire

523
00:25:42,880 –> 00:25:45,160
hydrants that we still do not
know the names of.

524
00:25:45,440 –> 00:25:48,200
In the in in the tunnels
underneath New York City.

525
00:25:49,080 –> 00:25:53,680
Also, Trump appointed a special
counsel to look into claims of

526
00:25:53,760 –> 00:25:57,720
intelligence community misdeeds
during the Russia investigation,

527
00:25:57,720 –> 00:26:01,240
and that special counsel, John
Durham, found nothing to

528
00:26:01,240 –> 00:26:05,160
criticize in his final report.
He said, quote Durham.

529
00:26:05,160 –> 00:26:09,280
I barely know him, sorry.
So we’ve already kind of been

530
00:26:09,280 –> 00:26:14,400
down this road once.
There was also a 5 volume 2020

531
00:26:14,400 –> 00:26:17,400
report from the Senate
Intelligence Committee, which

532
00:26:17,400 –> 00:26:21,920
was Republican controlled and
led by Marco Rubio at the time,

533
00:26:22,200 –> 00:26:26,960
that came to its own conclusion
that Russia’s motivation was at

534
00:26:26,960 –> 00:26:31,480
least in part to help Trump win.
So even people in his current

535
00:26:31,480 –> 00:26:34,840
administration in the past have
said, yeah, Russia was trying to

536
00:26:34,840 –> 00:26:36,320
help Trump.
And this is what makes this a

537
00:26:36,320 –> 00:26:39,480
dumb fucking argument too,
because now, Now I’m not even

538
00:26:39,480 –> 00:26:41,800
sure what exactly is he so
fucking mad about?

539
00:26:42,000 –> 00:26:45,600
Because in a way it’s like, you
still in the chair, my guy.

540
00:26:45,880 –> 00:26:48,440
It’s like, even if other world
leaders like, you know, on

541
00:26:48,440 –> 00:26:51,120
Polymatter or whatever, like,
you know, they, they, they, they

542
00:26:51,120 –> 00:26:53,960
bet the parlay on you winning
like that, you, you, you could,

543
00:26:53,960 –> 00:26:55,880
you could technically, if you
weren’t so self-conscious, you

544
00:26:55,880 –> 00:26:59,160
could be like, hey, like that’s
not necessarily illegal.

545
00:26:59,160 –> 00:27:02,880
The fact that hey, Russia said
that they they, that they would

546
00:27:02,880 –> 00:27:06,080
be, they would like it if one of
the two president presidential

547
00:27:06,080 –> 00:27:10,080
candidates had one.
But like by acting so fucking

548
00:27:10,080 –> 00:27:14,000
aggro about it, It’s like you
seem it’s like, it’s like a

549
00:27:14,000 –> 00:27:17,360
petulant rich kid that can’t
just win the game.

550
00:27:17,640 –> 00:27:20,200
If he thinks you let him win.
He needs, he needs to be like,

551
00:27:20,200 –> 00:27:22,200
no, I destroyed you.
You don’t even know how to

552
00:27:22,200 –> 00:27:24,600
fucking play this game.
My dad didn’t help me with my

553
00:27:24,600 –> 00:27:26,400
school project.
I did that myself.

554
00:27:26,400 –> 00:27:29,280
It was on me like.
We see the sticker on a right

555
00:27:29,280 –> 00:27:32,040
there is I think Adam kind of
talked about it.

556
00:27:32,320 –> 00:27:35,720
It this happened like this
inquiry kind of went into the

557
00:27:35,720 –> 00:27:39,760
same at the same time that the
article came out that like in

558
00:27:39,760 –> 00:27:43,920
April, I forget who, but people
in intelligence told him that he

559
00:27:43,920 –> 00:27:46,680
was in the like he was in the
Epstein files, which we

560
00:27:46,760 –> 00:27:49,600
discussed like what that means.
So it’s like the ultimate

561
00:27:49,600 –> 00:27:53,960
distraction and like what Obama
represents to his base is this

562
00:27:53,960 –> 00:27:57,760
like picture of like, progress?
We’re just so hilarious from our

563
00:27:57,760 –> 00:27:59,960
side.
We can debate the merits of that

564
00:27:59,960 –> 00:28:02,800
progress, but I would say he
represents the same thing to

565
00:28:02,800 –> 00:28:05,720
liberals, like to regular
liberals, yeah, he represents

566
00:28:05,720 –> 00:28:08,640
this, this symbol of progress
and how far we’ve come.

567
00:28:08,800 –> 00:28:13,280
And I think like the fact that
the Southern Strategy is like so

568
00:28:13,760 –> 00:28:16,680
such a big part of the
Republican even call it the

569
00:28:16,680 –> 00:28:19,000
affordable, The Affordable Care
Act.

570
00:28:19,160 –> 00:28:22,560
So many Republicans are insured
through the Affordable Care Act,

571
00:28:22,760 –> 00:28:24,960
but they were just able to call
it Obamacare.

572
00:28:24,960 –> 00:28:28,440
And immediately people use it
means like it’s a dog whistle.

573
00:28:28,480 –> 00:28:30,200
It’s a dog whistle.
So it’s like black you.

574
00:28:30,200 –> 00:28:32,960
Should let’s just call it a slur
at this point because it’s like

575
00:28:34,880 –> 00:28:36,840
no Democrat ever called
Obamacare themselves.

576
00:28:37,360 –> 00:28:40,280
Which is one day like, yeah,
having, having cheap Healthcare

577
00:28:40,280 –> 00:28:42,160
is great.
Like we can argue how the

578
00:28:42,160 –> 00:28:44,440
Affordable Care Act didn’t,
didn’t go far enough.

579
00:28:44,680 –> 00:28:47,320
But just the amount of people
that are like Republicans who

580
00:28:47,320 –> 00:28:49,680
are insured through the
Affordable Care Act medic.

581
00:28:50,000 –> 00:28:53,240
But even it’s like, it’s like
the evolution of like Medicare

582
00:28:53,240 –> 00:28:57,560
calling everything Medicare and
it being seen as like something

583
00:28:57,560 –> 00:28:59,760
that you shouldn’t have or
something that number one, black

584
00:28:59,760 –> 00:29:03,480
people overuse and #2 that you
like that you shouldn’t want

585
00:29:03,480 –> 00:29:06,800
because you should be able to
pull yourself up even even if

586
00:29:06,800 –> 00:29:08,200
you’re dirt, even if you’re
dirt.

587
00:29:08,200 –> 00:29:11,480
Port, which is pull yourself up
and grab and grab your own leg,

588
00:29:11,480 –> 00:29:16,440
take it to your own doctor.
So actually actually get you a

589
00:29:16,440 –> 00:29:20,760
suture kit.
You want to make give me give me

590
00:29:20,760 –> 00:29:24,160
some plasma actually.
I wish, I wish that he had come

591
00:29:24,160 –> 00:29:25,680
out and been like, and you know
what?

592
00:29:25,680 –> 00:29:27,520
We’re calling it?
Obamacare.

593
00:29:27,520 –> 00:29:31,760
Fuckers.
Listen to me, I think 2025

594
00:29:31,800 –> 00:29:36,280
Obama, and I’m really coming to
that projecting onto Zaron

595
00:29:36,280 –> 00:29:38,440
Mandani.
I think a candidate, a

596
00:29:38,880 –> 00:29:40,640
Democratic candidate would do
that today.

597
00:29:40,800 –> 00:29:45,120
But like before, we just had
some quorum to be like, that’s

598
00:29:45,280 –> 00:29:48,400
the most prescient memory I have
from like the early Obama terms

599
00:29:48,400 –> 00:29:51,040
because I was just a kid, right?
But I was just like, man, he

600
00:29:51,040 –> 00:29:54,720
feel it seems like he’s boiling
underneath every time he has to

601
00:29:54,720 –> 00:29:58,720
talk on camera like and respond
to like Republicans because they

602
00:29:58,760 –> 00:30:00,160
they were this whole.
And I feel like we don’t

603
00:30:00,160 –> 00:30:02,840
remember this too, because even
even me who’s, you know, as my,

604
00:30:02,840 –> 00:30:04,800
my lower third says, recovering
Obama addict.

605
00:30:05,920 –> 00:30:07,720
You know, I remember being
really defensive over the

606
00:30:07,720 –> 00:30:12,600
Affordable Care Act because like
I’d seen it on CNNMSNBC everyday

607
00:30:12,600 –> 00:30:14,040
that like he’s trying to do
something.

608
00:30:14,040 –> 00:30:16,200
And yet like you have Mitch
McConnell saying like he’s going

609
00:30:16,200 –> 00:30:19,160
to be a one term president.
But like, that’s what we forget,

610
00:30:19,160 –> 00:30:21,600
right?
They’re like, now I, I’m not

611
00:30:21,600 –> 00:30:24,120
going to go to bat for him, but
I do know we weren’t trying to

612
00:30:24,120 –> 00:30:27,280
go single payer, but he was
trying to like do an FDR style

613
00:30:27,280 –> 00:30:31,200
rehaul of health insurance.
And they were like, because for

614
00:30:31,200 –> 00:30:32,880
some reason in this country, the
idea of getting anything for

615
00:30:32,880 –> 00:30:36,000
free, I want you.
No, I’m in the camera to be

616
00:30:36,000 –> 00:30:38,080
watching this.
Nowhere else in the fucking rest

617
00:30:38,080 –> 00:30:41,560
of the globe does getting free
shit seem like a fucking curse

618
00:30:41,720 –> 00:30:44,840
anywhere else but America, like
from Nigeria, the stingiest

619
00:30:44,840 –> 00:30:48,200
people in Western Africa.
And they still going to feed

620
00:30:48,200 –> 00:30:50,120
you.
They still going to make sure

621
00:30:50,120 –> 00:30:53,080
you have water.
Because like, it’s just like

622
00:30:53,200 –> 00:30:54,880
they just call it being rude,
but honestly, it’s just not

623
00:30:54,880 –> 00:30:56,200
beneficial.
Why the hell would you want

624
00:30:56,200 –> 00:30:58,280
hungry people around you?
But like that’s, that’s, that’s

625
00:30:58,280 –> 00:30:59,800
the Southern, the Republican
strategy.

626
00:30:59,920 –> 00:31:02,480
Hey, you right now are good.
You might not feel good, but

627
00:31:02,480 –> 00:31:04,240
don’t worry, you’re good.
You’re right, everybody, nobody

628
00:31:04,240 –> 00:31:07,160
else should be bad.
And we only have so much pie.

629
00:31:07,480 –> 00:31:09,960
So like, instead of, you know,
using a trillion dollars to grow

630
00:31:09,960 –> 00:31:12,000
the pie, you need to make sure
you keep all that pie for

631
00:31:12,000 –> 00:31:14,600
yourself.
And therefore we don’t want new

632
00:31:14,600 –> 00:31:17,160
things nor free things, because
your life is perfect the way it

633
00:31:17,160 –> 00:31:21,480
is right now with your rent and
your lack of healthcare access.

634
00:31:23,360 –> 00:31:27,360
The first like 2 Obama years
were just like Affordable Care

635
00:31:27,360 –> 00:31:30,160
Act bickering.
It was it was just them like

636
00:31:30,160 –> 00:31:33,160
trying to win over Joe Lieberman
by like making it worse.

637
00:31:34,360 –> 00:31:36,920
It was the IT was an extremely.
Excruciating.

638
00:31:37,160 –> 00:31:39,760
Worse and worse.
Like every every OK, we’ll take

639
00:31:39,760 –> 00:31:41,240
this out.
OK, we’ll take that out.

640
00:31:41,320 –> 00:31:42,640
OK, it’s not single payer
anymore.

641
00:31:42,640 –> 00:31:45,560
Now it’s a marketplace.
And yeah, it was, it was you’re

642
00:31:45,560 –> 00:31:46,560
gonna be on your parents health
care.

643
00:31:46,560 –> 00:31:49,640
And so you’re 30 now it’s 26.
Like, everything just was slowly

644
00:31:49,640 –> 00:31:53,560
getting like shaved down.
And yeah, it was really enough

645
00:31:53,560 –> 00:31:57,480
to after all the hope and change
talk, you really got the bends

646
00:31:57,680 –> 00:32:00,840
the first two years of just
nothing fucking happening.

647
00:32:00,840 –> 00:32:02,240
Yeah.
But yeah, but Congress point, I

648
00:32:02,240 –> 00:32:04,040
just realized that you had to
Congress point if you called her

649
00:32:04,040 –> 00:32:06,040
Obamacare, I, Loki think we’d
probably be in a better place.

650
00:32:06,280 –> 00:32:08,360
I think if you stood on it like
Loki, we would have made it a

651
00:32:08,360 –> 00:32:09,600
mean he was.
Pantos died.

652
00:32:10,080 –> 00:32:12,400
Obamacare.
Obamacare with sweatshirts.

653
00:32:13,320 –> 00:32:16,000
As somebody who lives in a
predominantly black area in

654
00:32:16,000 –> 00:32:20,400
Atlanta, like you see, you see
stickers, you see literally I

655
00:32:20,400 –> 00:32:22,880
was like not too far from my
house, you’ll see the signs that

656
00:32:22,880 –> 00:32:26,280
says Obamacare, Obamacare
little, no, little to no cost

657
00:32:26,280 –> 00:32:28,240
health insurance.
Like they use it as like a

658
00:32:29,840 –> 00:32:32,120
right, like for the and that and
I feel like that kind of

659
00:32:32,120 –> 00:32:34,680
demonstrates even even in the
split.

660
00:32:34,680 –> 00:32:37,040
And so like, I keep been
encouraging my left experience

661
00:32:37,040 –> 00:32:41,240
to be easier on Obama because
what Obama represents in the

662
00:32:41,240 –> 00:32:44,920
black political psyche, it’s
important to be sensitive to

663
00:32:44,920 –> 00:32:46,600
that.
Like white people calling him a

664
00:32:46,600 –> 00:32:49,840
war criminal with no real
critique of US empire in

665
00:32:49,840 –> 00:32:52,600
general, or at least call him a
war criminal out of context.

666
00:32:52,600 –> 00:32:54,240
Like, oh, Obama’s a war
criminal, right?

667
00:32:54,240 –> 00:32:57,000
Like that out of context.
Like you turn a lot of people

668
00:32:57,000 –> 00:32:59,080
off that way.
And you may say, oh, it’s not

669
00:32:59,080 –> 00:33:00,160
right.
Oh, it’s not fair.

670
00:33:00,160 –> 00:33:01,880
Oh, blah, blah, blah.
You can say all that stuff.

671
00:33:01,880 –> 00:33:05,640
But you need to be a little more
sensitive about what Obama

672
00:33:05,640 –> 00:33:08,160
represents in the black
political like psyche.

673
00:33:08,480 –> 00:33:11,120
And you can have your critique
of American imperialism and you

674
00:33:11,120 –> 00:33:13,960
can have your critique of like,
you know, anybody that sits in

675
00:33:13,960 –> 00:33:16,200
the chair is a war criminal.
They’re like, yeah, I don’t

676
00:33:16,200 –> 00:33:18,160
know, maybe have a little bit
attacked.

677
00:33:18,480 –> 00:33:19,920
I even.
Would call him one of the better

678
00:33:19,920 –> 00:33:22,360
war criminals.
Bill Clinton never never.

679
00:33:22,360 –> 00:33:24,360
Bill Clinton never increased the
public good.

680
00:33:24,480 –> 00:33:26,600
He never got me healthcare till
I was 26.

681
00:33:27,040 –> 00:33:32,080
Well, not just that, but one of
a like when people call Obama a

682
00:33:32,080 –> 00:33:34,960
war criminal, one of the things
they focus on is the drone

683
00:33:34,960 –> 00:33:41,000
strikes, obviously, but that was
part of a bigger Obama

684
00:33:41,000 –> 00:33:44,840
initiative that was essentially,
well, let’s not send people to

685
00:33:44,840 –> 00:33:47,720
do this shit.
Like we don’t have to like send

686
00:33:47,720 –> 00:33:50,240
poor people to die to do this
shit.

687
00:33:50,240 –> 00:33:51,880
We can just commit our war
crimes.

688
00:33:52,480 –> 00:33:54,640
Had a computer from the.
Sky and I agree.

689
00:33:54,640 –> 00:33:56,360
They have lost their personal
touch.

690
00:33:56,600 –> 00:34:00,880
Yeah, those war crimes, they
used to have a warm kind of like

691
00:34:01,080 –> 00:34:04,320
Tony Soprano style.
Yeah, you had to get your hands

692
00:34:04,360 –> 00:34:06,920
dirty.
You want to imperialize?

693
00:34:07,240 –> 00:34:10,520
You had to get your hands dirty.
Yeah, I like a physical war

694
00:34:10,520 –> 00:34:12,120
crime.
I like something I can hold in

695
00:34:12,120 –> 00:34:14,199
my.
There’s a couple guys with just

696
00:34:14,199 –> 00:34:16,360
bad lives.
You got to have the war

697
00:34:16,360 –> 00:34:18,040
criminals if you want war crimes
in.

698
00:34:18,199 –> 00:34:20,480
Fact not that bad or note in
there either.

699
00:34:20,480 –> 00:34:22,600
But like Adam is right.
It’s like it’s not like he’s

700
00:34:22,600 –> 00:34:25,440
Trump like basically he didn’t
run his campaign saying like I I

701
00:34:25,440 –> 00:34:27,639
would love to the first foreign
country that gets me a chance.

702
00:34:27,639 –> 00:34:29,280
I love to bomb the shit out of
them just to show that like we

703
00:34:29,280 –> 00:34:31,520
have bigger balls.
In fact, the thing that Obama

704
00:34:31,520 –> 00:34:34,840
got hit on the most during the
campaign was his lack of foreign

705
00:34:34,840 –> 00:34:39,400
policy really not even not only
experience, but interest like he

706
00:34:39,400 –> 00:34:42,840
he he he really did want to be
more of AI won’t call it open.

707
00:34:43,000 –> 00:34:45,800
I’ll say a traditional Democrat
and say that he just wanted to

708
00:34:46,080 –> 00:34:49,400
focus on the homestead, which
ironically enough, is the same

709
00:34:49,400 –> 00:34:52,040
thing Republicans run on now,
except, you know, we’re in two

710
00:34:52,040 –> 00:34:55,840
international conflicts.
But that like conversation like

711
00:34:55,840 –> 00:34:59,760
this are hard, obviously, right,
Because when I hear Obama is a

712
00:34:59,760 –> 00:35:01,960
war criminal, I got to like see
the person who says it first

713
00:35:02,160 –> 00:35:05,120
because like, I may call Obama a
war criminal, but like kind of

714
00:35:05,120 –> 00:35:07,520
like what, what Dante has said,
Dante or Adam, I forget Now,

715
00:35:07,840 –> 00:35:10,920
like there’s I have the nuance
to say like why I specifically

716
00:35:10,920 –> 00:35:14,520
can think that like I’m calling
Obama as his position as a

717
00:35:14,520 –> 00:35:17,080
president.
He had done things that I did

718
00:35:17,080 –> 00:35:20,080
not approve of.
However, if I hear, you know,

719
00:35:20,320 –> 00:35:23,200
just some random person at 711,
say it is like, oh, he’s a war

720
00:35:23,200 –> 00:35:25,040
criminal.
He raised my taxes.

721
00:35:26,760 –> 00:35:29,200
Well, now I’m like, OK, may I
got to find out, find find out a

722
00:35:29,200 –> 00:35:31,720
new, a new, a new word.
Anyway, I say this to say that

723
00:35:31,840 –> 00:35:34,960
the drone strike is is a, is a
is a compromise because I think

724
00:35:34,960 –> 00:35:37,280
if he had it his way, he’s like,
I don’t want to have any

725
00:35:37,280 –> 00:35:39,840
international conflict, right?
I don’t want to be involved in

726
00:35:39,920 –> 00:35:41,760
it, but, and I’m not trying to
send people to go die there

727
00:35:41,760 –> 00:35:43,240
because that’s definitely going
to make me look bad.

728
00:35:43,360 –> 00:35:46,280
So I guess we use some AI.
Yeah.

729
00:35:46,440 –> 00:35:47,960
He stayed, he stayed out of it
so much.

730
00:35:47,960 –> 00:35:50,720
He didn’t even close Guantanamo.
He’s like, yeah, just fucking

731
00:35:50,720 –> 00:35:52,280
let it.
You do have me there.

732
00:35:52,920 –> 00:35:54,680
You got a better Cuba policy
though.

733
00:35:55,000 –> 00:35:55,840
Yeah.
Oh, that’s right.

734
00:35:55,840 –> 00:35:57,560
We were cool with Cuba for 10
minutes.

735
00:35:57,560 –> 00:35:59,840
That was cool.
Cigars and everything.

736
00:36:00,320 –> 00:36:01,520
So I’m sorry, go.
Ahead.

737
00:36:01,520 –> 00:36:05,880
So in response to all this,
Tulsi Gabbard, who is Lord, our

738
00:36:05,880 –> 00:36:08,480
current Director of National
Intelligence.

739
00:36:09,080 –> 00:36:12,320
An official conspiracy of the
show Babe of the Month.

740
00:36:13,720 –> 00:36:15,200
What?
No, I also heard that.

741
00:36:15,200 –> 00:36:16,280
Dante.
Yep, I heard that too.

742
00:36:16,600 –> 00:36:19,840
No, intelligence agencies think
that she is literally like a

743
00:36:19,840 –> 00:36:22,600
Russian plant, like she was
planted in the eminent and she

744
00:36:22,600 –> 00:36:26,760
follows like she’s like some
wing nut Colt follower or

745
00:36:26,760 –> 00:36:28,200
something.
I’ve seen whatever.

746
00:36:28,200 –> 00:36:30,520
But yeah, Tulsi Gabbard.
Tulsi fucking Gabbard.

747
00:36:30,520 –> 00:36:32,480
This.
This country is not real bro.

748
00:36:32,760 –> 00:36:35,560
Yeah, I like that she has one
little swath of Gray hair that

749
00:36:35,560 –> 00:36:37,520
really makes her look like a
super villain.

750
00:36:37,600 –> 00:36:39,400
Yeah, she looks like she comes
from a.

751
00:36:39,560 –> 00:36:42,280
Superhero movie.
Yeah, bro, like, like she like

752
00:36:42,280 –> 00:36:44,960
she is trying to outlaw the
Fantastic Four right now.

753
00:36:46,320 –> 00:36:50,320
So she released this report
saying that there was

754
00:36:50,440 –> 00:36:54,680
overwhelming evidence that Obama
and his national security team

755
00:36:54,680 –> 00:36:58,840
manufactured and politicized
intelligence to launch a years

756
00:36:58,840 –> 00:37:01,160
long coup against President
Trump.

757
00:37:01,280 –> 00:37:04,360
And she posted that.
On what a political campaign is.

758
00:37:04,560 –> 00:37:07,880
It’s a years long coup against
somebody who tried to change the

759
00:37:07,880 –> 00:37:09,880
whole.
No, you’re so right.

760
00:37:10,640 –> 00:37:14,160
That’s called an election, Tulsi
Teddy.

761
00:37:14,640 –> 00:37:16,680
That’s called an election.
A year’s long legal.

762
00:37:16,680 –> 00:37:18,640
Coup.
But we already know they’re

763
00:37:18,640 –> 00:37:20,960
against you.
They’re not a fan of elections.

764
00:37:20,960 –> 00:37:24,360
So like, no, they’re they’re
they’re predictably bewildered

765
00:37:24,360 –> 00:37:27,240
by this oncoming threat.
They’re like, whoa, whoa, we

766
00:37:27,240 –> 00:37:29,560
paid rent rent last month.
What, you mean rent due again?

767
00:37:29,800 –> 00:37:35,120
We’re going to appoint Baron as
the Senate pro tempore leader,

768
00:37:35,120 –> 00:37:37,960
and then we’re just going to
have JD Vance killed, kill

769
00:37:37,960 –> 00:37:41,920
himself ritual sepuku style.
And then we just transferred

770
00:37:41,920 –> 00:37:44,200
power internally back into the
Trump regime.

771
00:37:44,960 –> 00:37:46,320
Avoid it all.
The couch.

772
00:37:46,360 –> 00:37:49,120
The couch that JD Vans fucks.
That will be our new Director of

773
00:37:49,120 –> 00:37:51,920
Transportation.
I think he’s doing a good job.

774
00:37:52,120 –> 00:37:58,080
And these claims by Tulsi
Gabbard are also splitting hairs

775
00:37:58,120 –> 00:38:04,840
and incorrect because her claims
are focused on conclusions by

776
00:38:04,840 –> 00:38:08,600
the intelligence community that
Russia likely had not and would

777
00:38:08,600 –> 00:38:12,520
not not use cyber means to
directly compromise voter

778
00:38:12,520 –> 00:38:16,840
systems or change vote tallies.
And in her telling of it, this

779
00:38:16,840 –> 00:38:20,640
directly contradicts claims that
Russia tried to influence the

780
00:38:20,640 –> 00:38:22,680
election.
The only problem is, no one ever

781
00:38:22,680 –> 00:38:26,960
said Russia was using cyber
means to change votes.

782
00:38:27,160 –> 00:38:31,720
That was never the claim anyone
made in any of these

783
00:38:31,720 –> 00:38:35,960
intelligence assessments.
They in fact mostly said Russia

784
00:38:35,960 –> 00:38:39,840
was not going to change votes
through cyber means because they

785
00:38:39,840 –> 00:38:42,800
could not.
Every ad during that election

786
00:38:42,800 –> 00:38:46,440
was a crazy, really convincing
looking website that said

787
00:38:46,440 –> 00:38:48,240
incredible shit about Hillary
Clinton.

788
00:38:48,640 –> 00:38:49,600
I was there.
It was.

789
00:38:49,600 –> 00:38:50,760
You clicked on any of them?
It was.

790
00:38:50,760 –> 00:38:54,640
They looked really good and
there was some weird thing and

791
00:38:54,640 –> 00:38:56,920
you’d be reading it for 20
minutes and you’d be like, wait,

792
00:38:57,240 –> 00:38:59,520
does she work for the Irish
Republican Army?

793
00:38:59,560 –> 00:39:00,400
What am I?
What?

794
00:39:01,800 –> 00:39:05,800
And what Connor’s talking about,
that’s what these intelligence

795
00:39:05,800 –> 00:39:09,800
assessments were referring to,
was Russia using disinformation

796
00:39:09,800 –> 00:39:11,680
campaigns and things like that,
right?

797
00:39:12,120 –> 00:39:14,760
They were never saying Russia
changed votes.

798
00:39:15,160 –> 00:39:17,680
So Tulsi Gabbard’s claims her
nonsense.

799
00:39:17,680 –> 00:39:19,720
Sorry to act like a student, but
can I have Paul here just to get

800
00:39:19,720 –> 00:39:20,880
a clarification?
Right?

801
00:39:20,880 –> 00:39:24,680
Do do we?
So is what’s the limit, right?

802
00:39:24,680 –> 00:39:27,680
What can a foreign country?
It sounds stupid, but like what?

803
00:39:28,040 –> 00:39:31,080
How much could a foreign how
much can citizens of a foreign

804
00:39:31,080 –> 00:39:35,160
country be involved in
associating with the with the

805
00:39:35,160 –> 00:39:37,000
democratic elections of another
country?

806
00:39:37,320 –> 00:39:39,000
Right.
Because I’ve never heard of have

807
00:39:39,000 –> 00:39:40,760
you ever heard of dead Internet
theory?

808
00:39:40,960 –> 00:39:43,120
Yeah, they’re like most of the
internet’s bots these days.

809
00:39:43,120 –> 00:39:45,360
It’s bots, like yes, that’s
that’s all it means.

810
00:39:45,360 –> 00:39:47,320
It’s bot bars, it’s Russian bot
bars.

811
00:39:47,480 –> 00:39:50,440
It’s Israeli bot farms.
Like that’s that’s everywhere.

812
00:39:50,440 –> 00:39:53,280
That’s Facebook.
Like that’s, that’s like, I

813
00:39:53,280 –> 00:39:56,240
forget what, but it’s like
Myanmar like especially in

814
00:39:56,240 –> 00:40:00,800
places that like are just very
like, let’s just say are very

815
00:40:00,840 –> 00:40:04,320
more communal societies where
information spreads very quickly

816
00:40:04,320 –> 00:40:06,720
on social media and
disinformation spreads quickly

817
00:40:06,720 –> 00:40:09,560
on social media.
Like, yeah, you’re able like the

818
00:40:09,600 –> 00:40:12,280
the genocide of Myanmar was
basically stirring up through

819
00:40:12,280 –> 00:40:17,320
like Facebook posts like repost,
like reposting stuff like rage

820
00:40:17,320 –> 00:40:19,200
bait, like literally all rage
bait.

821
00:40:19,400 –> 00:40:21,880
You can argue that 20 maybe not
26.

822
00:40:21,960 –> 00:40:24,400
We’ve seen, but 2020 was spurred
through like rage bait.

823
00:40:24,600 –> 00:40:27,840
You see how rage bait?
You see how rage bait effects

824
00:40:28,000 –> 00:40:31,440
shit right now with that brawl
in Cincinnati where the the

825
00:40:31,440 –> 00:40:33,800
teenagers beat up.
The the the the dude.

826
00:40:33,800 –> 00:40:38,760
In in the in the in the street
and how like once you present

827
00:40:38,760 –> 00:40:41,720
that a certain way on social
media, like you can actually

828
00:40:41,760 –> 00:40:44,920
affect things in the physical
world because people are

829
00:40:44,920 –> 00:40:48,040
outraged by it.
And like that outrage spurs

830
00:40:48,040 –> 00:40:49,680
people to like do certain
things.

831
00:40:49,800 –> 00:40:53,080
So it’s like, and that and I was
the question of like, yeah, I’m

832
00:40:53,080 –> 00:40:55,960
sure Russia has some bot farms.
But like I would say to the

833
00:40:55,960 –> 00:40:58,920
Democrats and even the whole
argument in 2016 about

834
00:40:58,920 –> 00:41:01,880
interfering with the elections,
the Democrats argue in court

835
00:41:01,880 –> 00:41:03,920
that they can pick their
candidate in a smoke filled

836
00:41:03,920 –> 00:41:06,360
room.
And it’s like, yeah, one of your

837
00:41:06,360 –> 00:41:09,920
argue that the Russians sort of
popular, popularized and like

838
00:41:09,920 –> 00:41:13,720
spread stories about the
undemocratic ways in which the

839
00:41:13,720 –> 00:41:16,480
Democrats were supporting
Hillary Clinton and how the

840
00:41:16,480 –> 00:41:19,800
Clinton Foundation was literally
giving money to the DNC.

841
00:41:20,000 –> 00:41:23,480
That’s why Debbie Weiserman
Schultz had to resign because

842
00:41:23,640 –> 00:41:26,640
the Clinton Foundation was
floating the the the the

843
00:41:26,640 –> 00:41:29,960
corporation or the entities
responsible for picking the

844
00:41:29,960 –> 00:41:32,800
candidate was getting money from
the Clinton Foundation.

845
00:41:33,600 –> 00:41:37,840
So like you say, all any, any
critique of the Democrat

846
00:41:37,840 –> 00:41:41,320
strategy or any critique of that
2016 comes back to all Russia.

847
00:41:41,480 –> 00:41:44,400
So it’s kind of used both ways
where it’s like, on the one hand

848
00:41:44,400 –> 00:41:47,720
you can say that the that
Russians really wanted to

849
00:41:47,720 –> 00:41:50,360
undermine Hillary Clinton, but
they only, they undermine

850
00:41:50,360 –> 00:41:53,080
Hillary Clinton by like saying
about things that were happening

851
00:41:53,080 –> 00:41:56,200
within the Democratic Party,
whereas like the MSNBC just kind

852
00:41:56,200 –> 00:41:59,040
of didn’t talk about it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

853
00:41:59,360 –> 00:42:01,360
OK.
Which goes that goes to the

854
00:42:01,360 –> 00:42:05,560
outside of my question like is
what is what Russia if even if

855
00:42:05,560 –> 00:42:08,480
we found out that like no, no,
because what we did right at the

856
00:42:08,480 –> 00:42:11,080
end of the day, the the original
report says that it’s more

857
00:42:11,080 –> 00:42:14,680
likely, it’s very it’s likely,
obviously likely that Russia’s

858
00:42:15,000 –> 00:42:17,840
interference in the election did
sway the votes, right?

859
00:42:17,880 –> 00:42:22,040
Is that illegal?
Yeah, I don’t know how it could

860
00:42:22,040 –> 00:42:23,440
be.
Right, Because like, what’s the

861
00:42:23,440 –> 00:42:26,400
point of does Trump really need
to lie about this or talk about

862
00:42:26,400 –> 00:42:27,640
this if it like it’s not
illegal?

863
00:42:27,840 –> 00:42:30,200
I mean, because like it kind of
and that’s the reason why I

864
00:42:30,240 –> 00:42:32,880
think even Gabbard has to like
kind of like judge it up a

865
00:42:32,880 –> 00:42:34,800
little bit because like when you
put out what’s really happening,

866
00:42:35,000 –> 00:42:36,360
right?
It’s it, it would make almost

867
00:42:36,360 –> 00:42:38,640
too much sense that to to your
conservatives base.

868
00:42:38,840 –> 00:42:41,640
It’s like, yeah, we found out
that turns out there were there

869
00:42:41,640 –> 00:42:43,960
were some bot farms that all
seemed to come from Russian IPS

870
00:42:44,120 –> 00:42:46,640
and they all tend to say like
crazy things or rage bait.

871
00:42:46,880 –> 00:42:48,360
Matter of fact, you guys might
have seen with some of them.

872
00:42:48,600 –> 00:42:51,160
Anyway, that was weird.
They stopped after the election,

873
00:42:51,160 –> 00:42:52,720
but you know, turned to
conservative.

874
00:42:52,720 –> 00:42:55,200
They didn’t break any rules.
They got bot farms.

875
00:42:55,200 –> 00:42:58,640
We have Radio Free America.
We had Radio Free America.

876
00:42:58,840 –> 00:43:02,840
Had had wherever, wherever the
fuck we got we got a lot of

877
00:43:02,840 –> 00:43:07,080
propaganda tools that we we use
in our in our toolkit.

878
00:43:07,560 –> 00:43:10,040
So I feel like it was kind of
gamesmanship.

879
00:43:10,200 –> 00:43:13,760
Yeah, yeah, it was just, it was
just a great power gamesmanship

880
00:43:13,760 –> 00:43:17,040
like yeah, let’s, let’s, we, we
like this guy better.

881
00:43:17,040 –> 00:43:19,200
Let’s let’s do it.
Let’s see what we can do to like

882
00:43:19,320 –> 00:43:21,240
well, and it’s.
Nothing that our own

883
00:43:21,240 –> 00:43:24,160
intelligence agencies would ever
get their hands dirty wits.

884
00:43:24,360 –> 00:43:26,640
We don’t we don’t do that kind
of We don’t interfere in another

885
00:43:26,640 –> 00:43:28,400
country’s elections.
Were you crazy?

886
00:43:28,400 –> 00:43:29,760
I.
Don’t know, we don’t even spot

887
00:43:29,760 –> 00:43:32,640
on our citizens like we’re way
too important for that.

888
00:43:32,920 –> 00:43:34,280
But no, on the real tip, you can
cut this out.

889
00:43:34,280 –> 00:43:35,280
This is going to put us on a
list.

890
00:43:35,440 –> 00:43:37,280
But I’m like, why are Democrats
not doing that?

891
00:43:37,280 –> 00:43:40,560
More like, why can we not?
Why can we not find there are

892
00:43:40,560 –> 00:43:42,040
plenty of countries that hate
America.

893
00:43:42,280 –> 00:43:45,280
And like most times when, when
when middle wealth countries

894
00:43:45,280 –> 00:43:47,400
hate America, they hate the
right wing of the country.

895
00:43:47,600 –> 00:43:49,400
Like all the stuff that they
think are good about America.

896
00:43:49,400 –> 00:43:51,720
They’re like we end up telling
like, Oh yeah, like the the

897
00:43:51,720 –> 00:43:54,000
liberal side, the left side of
the country is like, who got

898
00:43:54,000 –> 00:43:56,600
that?
Why can we not partner up with

899
00:43:56,680 –> 00:43:58,600
I’m just pull some some people
out the hat.

900
00:43:58,600 –> 00:44:01,800
I don’t know the Philippines.
I don’t know the Philippines and

901
00:44:01,800 –> 00:44:04,960
start having them bot farm on
fucking true social and just

902
00:44:04,960 –> 00:44:07,880
start being like, Hey, look, I
actually have if you if you send

903
00:44:07,880 –> 00:44:10,360
me 20 Bitcoin right now, I’m
going to send you the the the

904
00:44:10,360 –> 00:44:13,560
video, the golden shower video,
Like it’s it’s actually all the

905
00:44:13,560 –> 00:44:16,120
check this website.
It’s it’s like it’s dot SK

906
00:44:16,120 –> 00:44:19,280
whatever.
And like I at this point, some

907
00:44:19,280 –> 00:44:21,560
days it’s not every day.
Other days, you know, I take my

908
00:44:21,560 –> 00:44:24,160
meds and like I’m more
reasonable, but like fighting

909
00:44:24,160 –> 00:44:27,120
fire with some fire.
Could we need to bully bullying.

910
00:44:27,160 –> 00:44:28,840
The only way, the only way you
beat a bully is to bully.

911
00:44:29,400 –> 00:44:32,520
If you got the time and space
and assets for keyboard warrior

912
00:44:32,520 –> 00:44:35,520
bot farms like please by all
means.

913
00:44:36,400 –> 00:44:40,760
I do wonder, should people on
the left just try to do to Truth

914
00:44:40,760 –> 00:44:43,200
Social what Nazis did to
Twitter?

915
00:44:44,680 –> 00:44:49,360
Like why don’t like hundreds of
thousands of us get on fucking

916
00:44:49,360 –> 00:44:52,760
Truth Social and do that shit to
them?

917
00:44:52,760 –> 00:44:54,280
Because blue sky not even
popping.

918
00:44:54,600 –> 00:44:57,080
Yeah, and.
We’re like giving up all of the

919
00:44:57,080 –> 00:45:00,200
social media space to the Nazis.
Like we’re not going to have

920
00:45:00,200 –> 00:45:02,520
anywhere to fucking post memes
and shit.

921
00:45:02,680 –> 00:45:05,520
I think about this a lot and
like it is actually very hard

922
00:45:05,520 –> 00:45:09,240
problem because I think it, it’s
only I’m, I, I’m only going to

923
00:45:09,240 –> 00:45:10,920
rant about this for a little bit
because I, I just had an in

924
00:45:10,920 –> 00:45:13,080
depth conversation about it
where it’s like it’s, it’s a 2

925
00:45:13,400 –> 00:45:16,560
prong problem, right?
One, we could have the thing

926
00:45:16,560 –> 00:45:19,920
where like we invade another
platform and then we, we change

927
00:45:19,920 –> 00:45:21,840
their culture in the same way
our culture has been changed

928
00:45:21,840 –> 00:45:25,280
when they did it, But that,
that, that killed your mental

929
00:45:25,280 –> 00:45:28,280
health that like they say, you
got to be a keyboard warrior.

930
00:45:28,640 –> 00:45:31,240
I’m like, I don’t want to be
woefully engaging with

931
00:45:31,240 –> 00:45:33,360
conservatives that like believe
that I should be dead or

932
00:45:33,360 –> 00:45:35,440
something, right.
But on the other side, in a

933
00:45:35,440 –> 00:45:41,880
more, in a, in a less late stage
world, unlike what we live in,

934
00:45:42,120 –> 00:45:45,600
we have a 3rd place or two that
I, that I would believe that

935
00:45:45,600 –> 00:45:48,240
like people that are
progressive, the, the hippies of

936
00:45:48,240 –> 00:45:50,920
the 70s and 80s would have been
meeting up and actually like

937
00:45:51,560 –> 00:45:54,400
dialoguing with one another in a
way that would make social media

938
00:45:54,400 –> 00:45:56,000
basically not matter as much
anymore.

939
00:45:56,320 –> 00:45:58,840
But we’re, but we’re in this
meta where like basically

940
00:45:58,880 –> 00:46:01,960
everybody’s decided that we need
to have a social media arm.

941
00:46:02,160 –> 00:46:04,600
We need to have a place where
where my group or my identity

942
00:46:04,800 –> 00:46:07,440
can perpetually be connected
digitally.

943
00:46:07,520 –> 00:46:09,000
We’ll figure out the IRL stuff
later.

944
00:46:09,040 –> 00:46:11,520
That’s not important.
I’m getting my, my, my dopamine

945
00:46:11,520 –> 00:46:12,880
right now, like through these
DMS.

946
00:46:13,080 –> 00:46:15,360
And then we and then we wonder
what happens when that, when the

947
00:46:15,360 –> 00:46:17,840
meta of that platform changes.
Now nobody can be on Twitter.

948
00:46:17,880 –> 00:46:21,040
I’ve had friends literally like
cry to me saying like, man, like

949
00:46:21,040 –> 00:46:22,560
nobody’s on Twitter anymore.
I can’t be on Twitter.

950
00:46:22,560 –> 00:46:24,040
It’s too toxic.
But like, that’s where all my

951
00:46:24,040 –> 00:46:26,600
friends were.
And like, I had, yeah, I had to

952
00:46:26,600 –> 00:46:29,040
wait for another conversation to
be able to say like, OK, but

953
00:46:29,040 –> 00:46:31,320
like what’s good with the what’s
good with the real friends?

954
00:46:31,320 –> 00:46:32,800
So what’s good, what’s good with
the meet up?

955
00:46:33,040 –> 00:46:34,680
Like what’s good with the
library?

956
00:46:34,680 –> 00:46:37,480
Let’s say let’s hit this DND
karaoke something because I

957
00:46:37,480 –> 00:46:39,440
don’t think we’re solving the
revolution through social media.

958
00:46:39,960 –> 00:46:42,760
We could figure out a place to
do that before it’s El Salvador.

959
00:46:43,680 –> 00:46:45,720
I’ll see you guys with the
target cafe target.

960
00:46:47,120 –> 00:46:50,560
Cafe with the Starbucks, I hear.
You you have roasting popcorn.

961
00:46:50,760 –> 00:46:53,960
It’s nice.
So Trump, in response to Tulsi

962
00:46:53,960 –> 00:46:57,440
Gabbard’s comments, just he’s
the first one who started

963
00:46:57,440 –> 00:47:01,280
calling this treason.
He said it’s there, he’s guilty,

964
00:47:01,280 –> 00:47:03,360
This was treason.
They tried to steal the

965
00:47:03,360 –> 00:47:06,760
election.
They tried to obfuscate the

966
00:47:06,760 –> 00:47:08,760
election.
They did things that nobody’s

967
00:47:08,760 –> 00:47:10,800
ever imagined, even in other
countries.

968
00:47:11,120 –> 00:47:14,080
I bet people in other countries
never expected Trump to use the

969
00:47:14,080 –> 00:47:16,760
word obfuscate.
I was going to say I I love this

970
00:47:16,760 –> 00:47:19,960
guy that he throws in a like a
like a real $7.00 word

971
00:47:19,960 –> 00:47:21,400
sometimes.
That was his word of the day.

972
00:47:21,760 –> 00:47:23,800
Yeah, 100%.
His aide gave him that.

973
00:47:24,120 –> 00:47:25,600
He heard someone say it.
Yes, sorry.

974
00:47:25,680 –> 00:47:27,480
Oatmeal his his a Big Mac with
Diet Coke.

975
00:47:27,800 –> 00:47:31,320
Yeah, it’s not that he’s stupid.
He just absorbs whatever like is

976
00:47:31,360 –> 00:47:33,240
most recently like sticks to
him.

977
00:47:33,480 –> 00:47:36,120
So yeah, you’re definitely like
somebody like he heard someone

978
00:47:36,120 –> 00:47:38,600
say obviously use Gate that week
and he was like, I’m going to

979
00:47:38,600 –> 00:47:41,040
whip that one out.
No, his tax, his tax accounts

980
00:47:41,040 –> 00:47:43,160
are definitely said obficate in
a meeting.

981
00:47:43,400 –> 00:47:44,920
And he was like, oh, I like that
one.

982
00:47:45,080 –> 00:47:47,080
Yeah, I, I, I do a lot of that.
I’m about to.

983
00:47:47,080 –> 00:47:50,520
It’s part of my vocabulary.
And Dante already talked about

984
00:47:50,520 –> 00:47:52,720
this part.
But all of this started

985
00:47:52,720 –> 00:47:56,680
happening like the day after
that article came out that said,

986
00:47:56,680 –> 00:48:00,120
oh, by the way, in May, the
Department of Justice told Trump

987
00:48:00,160 –> 00:48:03,320
he’s in the Epstein files.
That article came out and then

988
00:48:03,320 –> 00:48:07,400
all of a sudden Tulsi Gabbard is
like, hey, Obama was part of a

989
00:48:07,400 –> 00:48:10,600
conspiracy to steal the election
from Trump and I’m going to

990
00:48:10,600 –> 00:48:12,800
forward it to a grand jury,
which she did.

991
00:48:12,920 –> 00:48:16,360
She has ordered a grand jury
hearing on this.

992
00:48:17,240 –> 00:48:18,920
That means what discovery then,
right?

993
00:48:19,040 –> 00:48:20,760
Like they both have to get
information.

994
00:48:21,040 –> 00:48:24,080
You would think.
Also, Trump posted an AI video

995
00:48:24,080 –> 00:48:27,440
of Obama being hauled off to
jail on Truth Social.

996
00:48:27,520 –> 00:48:31,680
This country isn’t real bro.
Where’s he getting these videos?

997
00:48:31,680 –> 00:48:34,400
I mean, he’s got to have making
them.

998
00:48:34,640 –> 00:48:36,160
You think he’s doing them
himself?

999
00:48:36,520 –> 00:48:38,600
I’m watching the video right
now.

1000
00:48:38,600 –> 00:48:41,440
It’s not great.
It’s like Obama keeps falling

1001
00:48:41,440 –> 00:48:45,840
over or something like.
But one do it himself ’cause I

1002
00:48:45,840 –> 00:48:48,640
actually don’t think like
judging by the size of his

1003
00:48:48,640 –> 00:48:51,200
fingers, I don’t think he has
flexibility in anything else but

1004
00:48:51,200 –> 00:48:52,760
his thumbs.
I think he can only actually

1005
00:48:52,760 –> 00:48:55,400
flex his thumb to be fair if he
needs.

1006
00:48:55,440 –> 00:48:58,320
A pop socket, and he definitely
needs a pop socket on his phone.

1007
00:48:58,520 –> 00:49:01,400
This is the 1800s.
Like Trump would be akin to

1008
00:49:01,600 –> 00:49:04,240
fucking Alexander Hamilton the
way that he how prolific he’d be

1009
00:49:04,240 –> 00:49:07,880
writing, right?
If we counted truths, socials,

1010
00:49:08,920 –> 00:49:10,880
shit post, everything on truth,
or shit post if you count shit

1011
00:49:10,880 –> 00:49:13,560
post as essays.
Like that man can write.

1012
00:49:13,840 –> 00:49:17,320
I honestly bet if you if you
made a hardcover series of

1013
00:49:17,320 –> 00:49:20,320
volumes of Trump’s tweets from
like the time he started running

1014
00:49:20,320 –> 00:49:23,920
for president to I bet it would
be like a fascinating read.

1015
00:49:23,920 –> 00:49:27,040
I bet it would be like reading
like The Diary of Benjamin

1016
00:49:27,040 –> 00:49:28,480
Franklin or something like, you
know.

1017
00:49:28,520 –> 00:49:31,240
You probably would need I you
probably would need to create a

1018
00:49:31,240 –> 00:49:35,520
chat bot called Trump talk to
then like translate all of the

1019
00:49:36,520 –> 00:49:39,200
tweets for you because like
they’re just like you would have

1020
00:49:39,480 –> 00:49:41,920
to all the context, right?
Exactly.

1021
00:49:41,920 –> 00:49:44,720
You would have to know every
day, every hour that.

1022
00:49:44,720 –> 00:49:46,760
Would be part of the book, would
it would be it would have all

1023
00:49:46,760 –> 00:49:49,400
the research like Lizard Nelly
was in the news because she’d

1024
00:49:49,400 –> 00:49:52,160
just.
She doesn’t make a great

1025
00:49:52,160 –> 00:49:54,880
Kickstarter opportunity.
You know this, I think it’s

1026
00:49:55,080 –> 00:49:58,200
500,000 likes.
We start the we start the

1027
00:49:58,200 –> 00:50:00,560
campaign.
And one thing that’s worth

1028
00:50:01,080 –> 00:50:06,720
noting here, another reminder,
Trump in 2019 said Obama did not

1029
00:50:06,720 –> 00:50:09,120
do enough to stop Russian
interference.

1030
00:50:09,240 –> 00:50:12,240
In the course he did.
So was Russia interfering in the

1031
00:50:12,240 –> 00:50:14,200
election or not?
Well, he didn’t do enough

1032
00:50:14,200 –> 00:50:16,000
because Trump won.
If he would have interfered

1033
00:50:16,000 –> 00:50:18,760
more, he would have you know.
Yeah, that’s a good point.

1034
00:50:18,960 –> 00:50:22,240
He released a video.
The Obama jail video.

1035
00:50:22,240 –> 00:50:26,520
I haven’t seen it yet.
It’s not very good, you know,

1036
00:50:26,520 –> 00:50:30,360
It’s like I it’s a Photoshop of
Obama looking sad in an orange

1037
00:50:30,360 –> 00:50:32,240
jumpsuit.
That I probably could have done.

1038
00:50:33,360 –> 00:50:35,080
AI generation still creeps me
out a little bit.

1039
00:50:35,080 –> 00:50:38,520
It’s still not all the way
there, like pictures I’ll deal

1040
00:50:38,520 –> 00:50:42,640
with, but like the I think I
even I saw the video muted like

1041
00:50:42,640 –> 00:50:45,280
scrolling through.
I think my blue sky timeline and

1042
00:50:45,280 –> 00:50:47,800
I was like this is it looks
weird.

1043
00:50:48,560 –> 00:50:51,520
It still looks not all the way
human, which like I think is

1044
00:50:51,520 –> 00:50:53,920
also a meta commentary or even
why they like using this stuff.

1045
00:50:53,960 –> 00:50:57,120
I think they don’t see, they
don’t connect to art as humans.

1046
00:50:57,120 –> 00:50:58,640
Like they don’t actually
emotionally connect to it.

1047
00:50:58,840 –> 00:51:01,000
So they’re like, I mean, who
cares if it like looks a little

1048
00:51:01,000 –> 00:51:02,200
weird?
I mean, it’s just pictures.

1049
00:51:02,200 –> 00:51:03,400
Maybe everybody looks a little
weird.

1050
00:51:03,480 –> 00:51:06,240
As long as it’s racist, then I
look.

1051
00:51:06,800 –> 00:51:11,080
If my point is loud and clear
then it it the the art is fine.

1052
00:51:11,280 –> 00:51:14,160
But I but then you see something
like I saw a Vin Diesel

1053
00:51:14,160 –> 00:51:16,040
drenches.
Do you know like the gas pump

1054
00:51:16,040 –> 00:51:19,040
with the little like metal tube
that comes with the socket.

1055
00:51:19,240 –> 00:51:22,520
He just shoved the gas pump in
his mouth and was just drinking

1056
00:51:22,520 –> 00:51:25,440
gas and I thought, well, that
needs to exist.

1057
00:51:25,560 –> 00:51:28,200
And they certainly we’re going
to get the real Vin Diesel to do

1058
00:51:28,200 –> 00:51:29,880
it.
So maybe this machine is

1059
00:51:29,880 –> 00:51:31,960
necessary.
That’s actually so sad because

1060
00:51:31,960 –> 00:51:34,720
if you paid if you paid Vin
Diesel like $50 on Cameo, I’m

1061
00:51:34,720 –> 00:51:37,720
sure he would just done that for
you for for much less resources.

1062
00:51:37,960 –> 00:51:41,760
Maybe he he’s not in.
I haven’t seen a new Vin Diesel

1063
00:51:41,760 –> 00:51:46,840
movie coming out in a while.
So Obamas only response to this

1064
00:51:46,840 –> 00:51:50,240
so far has been through a
spokesperson named Patrick

1065
00:51:50,240 –> 00:51:53,200
Rodenbush, who said, quote, out
of respect.

1066
00:51:53,720 –> 00:51:56,400
It’s what he started because his
name is Patrick Rodenbush.

1067
00:51:57,720 –> 00:52:01,000
Out of respect for the office of
the presidency, our office does

1068
00:52:01,000 –> 00:52:04,600
not normally dignify the
constant nonsense and

1069
00:52:04,600 –> 00:52:07,320
misinformation flowing out of
this White House with a

1070
00:52:07,320 –> 00:52:10,080
response.
But these claims are outrageous

1071
00:52:10,080 –> 00:52:13,000
enough to merit one.
These bizarre allegations are

1072
00:52:13,000 –> 00:52:15,720
ridiculous and a weak attempt at
distraction.

1073
00:52:15,880 –> 00:52:18,880
Nothing in the document issued
last week undercuts the widely

1074
00:52:18,880 –> 00:52:23,160
accepted conclusion that Russia
worked to influence the 2016

1075
00:52:23,360 –> 00:52:27,280
presidential election but did
not successfully manipulate any

1076
00:52:27,280 –> 00:52:28,680
votes.
End Quote.

1077
00:52:28,920 –> 00:52:30,280
So now this is going to a grand
juror.

1078
00:52:32,360 –> 00:52:35,520
It does make you miss when,
like, that was the one thing

1079
00:52:35,520 –> 00:52:38,360
about Obama as the president
that was really attractive.

1080
00:52:38,360 –> 00:52:40,160
Was he just like played the
part?

1081
00:52:40,600 –> 00:52:42,920
He said presidential sounding
things.

1082
00:52:43,200 –> 00:52:46,640
Something fucked up happened.
He said like the nice things.

1083
00:52:46,840 –> 00:52:49,480
It was all it sounded like a
group of people got together and

1084
00:52:49,480 –> 00:52:52,160
said, what should we say?
And then they crafted a

1085
00:52:52,160 –> 00:52:56,760
statement that was like verbose
at least like whatever, like it

1086
00:52:56,760 –> 00:53:00,160
sounded nice.
And it’s just now it’s just it’s

1087
00:53:00,160 –> 00:53:02,520
everything is a is a stress
inducing event.

1088
00:53:02,520 –> 00:53:06,520
It’s just he, it’s a tweet that
he’s like, well, food stamps are

1089
00:53:06,520 –> 00:53:08,760
cancelled more tomorrow and
you’re OK.

1090
00:53:09,120 –> 00:53:12,080
You’re like, hey, cancer, cancer
prevention is, is important

1091
00:53:12,160 –> 00:53:13,440
anyway.
We’re going to cut 2 billion

1092
00:53:13,440 –> 00:53:16,080
from that.
I think the sadder thing about

1093
00:53:16,080 –> 00:53:19,400
what Connor just said is that I
agree with you that like I miss

1094
00:53:19,400 –> 00:53:23,200
when the president like acted
with a sort of sort of

1095
00:53:23,200 –> 00:53:26,480
presidential energy that I was
like familiar with and like felt

1096
00:53:26,680 –> 00:53:29,120
like he was he was OK to be in
charge.

1097
00:53:29,280 –> 00:53:32,920
But I think the last two
elections were people saying

1098
00:53:32,920 –> 00:53:35,680
they didn’t like that.
Like for like what you just said

1099
00:53:35,680 –> 00:53:37,440
about like, oh, it looks like a
whole bunch of people got in a

1100
00:53:37,440 –> 00:53:39,960
room and like, you know, put
their heads together and put out

1101
00:53:39,960 –> 00:53:43,000
a a good quality statement.
People call that the deep state

1102
00:53:43,320 –> 00:53:45,920
like that that’s what happened
in the last eight years.

1103
00:53:46,160 –> 00:53:48,920
They were like the idea of the
president being helped by people

1104
00:53:49,160 –> 00:53:52,080
now feels like manipulation, as
if like the president.

1105
00:53:52,120 –> 00:53:54,480
Well, I just.
I missed the presence of a

1106
00:53:54,480 –> 00:53:59,400
writer’s room.
Like we, we now prefer, we want,

1107
00:53:59,400 –> 00:54:02,560
we want the president to look
exactly like, like what we think

1108
00:54:02,560 –> 00:54:05,200
the president does based on
like.

1109
00:54:05,760 –> 00:54:07,920
We’re like fucking governance,
daddy.

1110
00:54:08,920 –> 00:54:12,720
I kind of worry that that’s
going to be the big conclusion

1111
00:54:12,720 –> 00:54:16,640
to this is Trump is just going
to be so outlandish and so

1112
00:54:16,640 –> 00:54:20,600
cartoonishly fascist that at the
end of it, we’re just going to

1113
00:54:20,600 –> 00:54:23,800
go back to how things were in
like 2015.

1114
00:54:23,960 –> 00:54:25,800
President Pete Buttigieg.
Yeah.

1115
00:54:25,880 –> 00:54:29,520
And it’ll feel like some kind of
revolution when it’s not it’s.

1116
00:54:29,600 –> 00:54:32,240
Just if this and I’ll, I’ll do
you one worse man.

1117
00:54:32,240 –> 00:54:36,200
If this ends up with Gavin
Newsom being like, we’re cooked,

1118
00:54:36,400 –> 00:54:37,320
like we would have learned
nothing.

1119
00:54:37,480 –> 00:54:39,160
Not we’re not.
We’re cooked actually actually

1120
00:54:39,160 –> 00:54:42,760
have like I don’t know how long
we anyway, I have a whole other

1121
00:54:42,800 –> 00:54:44,960
separate sort of theory on
what’s going to happen to the

1122
00:54:44,960 –> 00:54:48,840
parties after this election.
But if, if, if Dems do fumble, I

1123
00:54:48,840 –> 00:54:53,080
I think like somebody like DSA,
maybe some other thing under a

1124
00:54:53,080 –> 00:54:54,920
new name.
Something like an actual

1125
00:54:55,160 –> 00:54:58,440
Progressive Party that might not
be as progressive as I would

1126
00:54:58,440 –> 00:55:02,040
like, but would be able to cater
to that 18 to 36 demographic of

1127
00:55:02,200 –> 00:55:05,760
like a Democrat now who can’t
own a house is just not going to

1128
00:55:05,760 –> 00:55:07,920
be a Democrat when they’re 40
because like Democrats just

1129
00:55:07,920 –> 00:55:09,840
don’t offer them any reason to
like stay.

1130
00:55:10,040 –> 00:55:13,560
So I do think eventually there’s
going to have to be another

1131
00:55:13,560 –> 00:55:17,880
party that at least the youth
will put their their power

1132
00:55:17,880 –> 00:55:19,720
behind.
And then math takes over because

1133
00:55:19,720 –> 00:55:22,320
the the last two generations,
last three generations from

1134
00:55:22,320 –> 00:55:25,600
millennials to Gen. alpha have
been bigger and bigger.

1135
00:55:25,800 –> 00:55:29,920
So once they become registered
voters, if we already don’t

1136
00:55:29,920 –> 00:55:31,680
destroy ourselves, I think
that’s when we start to see the

1137
00:55:31,680 –> 00:55:33,680
crumbling.
Well, you know, a candidate wins

1138
00:55:33,680 –> 00:55:37,280
every election.
Did not vote like my man.

1139
00:55:37,960 –> 00:55:42,840
And so one question I have about
all this is, does Trump remember

1140
00:55:42,960 –> 00:55:48,160
that in 2024, the Supreme Court
decided presidents have pretty

1141
00:55:48,160 –> 00:55:51,400
broad immunity for anything they
do as an official?

1142
00:55:51,400 –> 00:55:52,920
Act.
He made sure of it.

1143
00:55:53,040 –> 00:55:56,440
This motherfucker is setting
himself up like if he breaks

1144
00:55:56,440 –> 00:56:00,040
that precedent and is like, no,
presidents actually don’t have

1145
00:56:00,040 –> 00:56:04,040
that immunity, so we’re going to
arrest Obama and send him to

1146
00:56:04,040 –> 00:56:06,480
prison.
What does he thinks going to

1147
00:56:06,480 –> 00:56:09,400
happen when Gavin Newsom, his
president, Gavin Newsom’s going

1148
00:56:09,400 –> 00:56:13,880
to fucking send him to prison?
And I don’t know how they’re not

1149
00:56:14,000 –> 00:56:17,240
making that connection.
Or maybe someone is and that’s

1150
00:56:17,240 –> 00:56:19,440
what they want.
Maybe someone in Trump’s

1151
00:56:19,440 –> 00:56:22,560
administration is like, we got
to undo this immunity thing so

1152
00:56:22,560 –> 00:56:24,760
we can send this motherfucker to
prison where he belongs.

1153
00:56:25,040 –> 00:56:26,520
Wait, Trump or Obama?
Trump.

1154
00:56:28,040 –> 00:56:30,440
It’s hard.
To see him, well, actually it’s

1155
00:56:30,440 –> 00:56:31,880
not hard to see him.
Cell phoning.

1156
00:56:31,960 –> 00:56:34,920
I don’t know, just giving up any
kind of power or immunity, but

1157
00:56:34,920 –> 00:56:37,040
he he might, it might be one of
the, it might be one of these

1158
00:56:37,040 –> 00:56:38,720
things where you’re playing a
board game with someone and

1159
00:56:38,720 –> 00:56:41,200
you’re like, wait, does this guy
really not see this amazing move

1160
00:56:41,200 –> 00:56:42,400
I’m about to do?
Yeah.

1161
00:56:42,760 –> 00:56:44,720
I, I think it’s just throwing
shit out of the wall, man.

1162
00:56:44,800 –> 00:56:48,440
I think it’s because at the end
of the day, I, and this makes

1163
00:56:48,440 –> 00:56:51,360
sense since Trump is, if, if
anything, he’s, if he’s an

1164
00:56:51,360 –> 00:56:54,560
expert in anything, it’s in
suing or in lawsuits and being

1165
00:56:54,560 –> 00:56:56,760
sued and suing.
I think he understands that like

1166
00:56:56,760 –> 00:57:03,040
hey, me just doing the paperwork
buys me like 2 or so weeks of

1167
00:57:03,320 –> 00:57:06,560
wait time and extraneous press
that no longer is talking about

1168
00:57:06,560 –> 00:57:08,120
thing that actually scared
about.

1169
00:57:08,440 –> 00:57:11,320
Because the more we talk about
this, the more I’m just like,

1170
00:57:11,320 –> 00:57:14,400
okay, we run it out to a grand
jury.

1171
00:57:14,400 –> 00:57:16,960
We play that all the way out.
It’s a frivolous case.

1172
00:57:17,440 –> 00:57:19,640
It’s a frivolous case.
So it’s like he can’t be

1173
00:57:19,640 –> 00:57:21,800
expecting to win.
Even if his team lies to him and

1174
00:57:21,800 –> 00:57:23,800
said he’s expecting to win, the
person lying to him is like, OK,

1175
00:57:23,800 –> 00:57:26,040
I don’t want to threaten to win.
I think we just need to do

1176
00:57:26,040 –> 00:57:28,320
something.
And I think that daddy is mad at

1177
00:57:28,320 –> 00:57:30,520
all of us.
So we just need to say something

1178
00:57:30,520 –> 00:57:31,840
so that he thinks we’re doing
something.

1179
00:57:32,120 –> 00:57:34,440
And just like most of these
things, right, most of Trump’s

1180
00:57:34,440 –> 00:57:38,080
actions have been rescinded,
repealed, or he just reneged on

1181
00:57:38,080 –> 00:57:39,320
them.
That’s the that’s the

1182
00:57:39,320 –> 00:57:41,520
manipulative thing about it.
Like there’s a lot of.

1183
00:57:41,520 –> 00:57:44,160
Fizzling.
That happened like just various

1184
00:57:44,160 –> 00:57:45,720
proclamations where it’s like,
yeah.

1185
00:57:45,720 –> 00:57:48,080
And then did we ever get
transgender to people out of the

1186
00:57:48,080 –> 00:57:49,640
military?
I never followed up on that.

1187
00:57:50,120 –> 00:57:52,400
Because they don’t care.
Here he here he.

1188
00:57:52,400 –> 00:57:58,360
I have a new proclamation.
From now on, no more tacos on a

1189
00:57:58,360 –> 00:57:59,120
Tuesday.
We’re.

1190
00:57:59,800 –> 00:58:01,600
Going to have.
Freedom fries.

1191
00:58:01,600 –> 00:58:03,160
We’re going to bring him back
the freedom.

1192
00:58:03,160 –> 00:58:07,000
Fries, If Trump had his way, he
really, he he really would like

1193
00:58:07,040 –> 00:58:10,000
a constant, a constitutional
amendment that says tweets get

1194
00:58:10,000 –> 00:58:12,520
the count as decrees like the
way he would rather the

1195
00:58:12,520 –> 00:58:15,560
presidency work is like, I
should just be able to wake up

1196
00:58:15,600 –> 00:58:17,240
and be like, OK, here’s what’s
going to happen today.

1197
00:58:17,520 –> 00:58:18,880
I also don’t want to call nobody
either.

1198
00:58:19,280 –> 00:58:20,880
I can’t walk my my ankles are
swollen.

1199
00:58:20,960 –> 00:58:23,360
So I’m just going to tweet this
out and like, we’re just going

1200
00:58:23,360 –> 00:58:24,360
to work.
Let’s just make it happen.

1201
00:58:24,360 –> 00:58:26,400
It’s basically an executive
order app.

1202
00:58:26,640 –> 00:58:30,240
Yeah, as far as he’s considered.
It’s post mates for executive

1203
00:58:30,240 –> 00:58:34,520
orders.
And there is some kind of recent

1204
00:58:34,600 –> 00:58:39,760
precedent from our side of the
globe that it could be a sign of

1205
00:58:39,760 –> 00:58:43,800
where this will all play out,
and that is Brazil.

1206
00:58:43,920 –> 00:58:46,880
There’s a great documentary
about this called The Edge of

1207
00:58:46,880 –> 00:58:50,960
Democracy.
In 2010, the president of

1208
00:58:50,960 –> 00:58:54,760
Brazil, Luiz Inacio Lula da
Silva, who people mercifully

1209
00:58:54,760 –> 00:58:58,920
just called Lula, left office.
And his kind of protege, a woman

1210
00:58:58,920 –> 00:59:01,720
named Dilma Rousseff, took over
as president.

1211
00:59:01,880 –> 00:59:03,720
She just barely won the
presidency.

1212
00:59:03,880 –> 00:59:06,480
And one of her first orders of
business was what we got to

1213
00:59:06,680 –> 00:59:09,800
crack down on corruption in the
government.

1214
00:59:09,920 –> 00:59:12,240
And she launches all these
corruption initiatives.

1215
00:59:12,440 –> 00:59:16,000
And what happens is the right
wingers realize, oh, we can just

1216
00:59:16,000 –> 00:59:20,280
use that to impeach her and to
arrest the last president.

1217
00:59:20,400 –> 00:59:26,600
And they kind of doctor up this
proof that Lula was involved in

1218
00:59:26,600 –> 00:59:29,160
this scandal called Operation
Car Wash.

1219
00:59:29,440 –> 00:59:34,840
And The thing is, damn near
every Brazilian politician for

1220
00:59:34,960 –> 00:59:39,760
decades was involved in
Operation Car Wash, and the only

1221
00:59:39,760 –> 00:59:42,560
person who went to jail over it
was Lula.

1222
00:59:43,040 –> 00:59:46,680
But what eventually happened?
He was sentenced to prison.

1223
00:59:46,800 –> 00:59:49,600
He was sentenced to 12 years in
prison in 2018.

1224
00:59:49,800 –> 00:59:52,520
His case ended up getting
overturned.

1225
00:59:52,720 –> 00:59:56,240
Now he’s out of prison.
He’s president again.

1226
00:59:56,440 –> 01:00:00,760
And Jair Bolsonaro, who is the
Trump of Brazil, is under house

1227
01:00:00,760 –> 01:00:03,160
arrest.
I could very much see this

1228
01:00:03,160 –> 01:00:07,000
playing out.
In a similar way where both of

1229
01:00:07,000 –> 01:00:09,920
these dudes go to jail at some
point.

1230
01:00:10,080 –> 01:00:14,200
It’s it’s so crazy you laid it
out in like every 1 + 1 equal 2

1231
01:00:14,200 –> 01:00:17,080
on all that until you got to the
trunk going to prison part and

1232
01:00:17,240 –> 01:00:20,080
it’s so wild like that’s that’s
my barrier.

1233
01:00:20,480 –> 01:00:22,240
I don’t know why I can’t
imagine.

1234
01:00:22,520 –> 01:00:24,480
I would love to see this man
ever going to jail.

1235
01:00:24,680 –> 01:00:26,160
I would love to see that
election.

1236
01:00:26,600 –> 01:00:29,080
Obama versus Trump isn’t like
Imagine they passed a

1237
01:00:29,080 –> 01:00:31,000
constitutional amendment that
says you could run.

1238
01:00:31,000 –> 01:00:33,000
For this city terms that.
‘D be that.

1239
01:00:33,000 –> 01:00:35,800
‘D be the worst election ever.
He’s so displaced.

1240
01:00:36,160 –> 01:00:40,160
Trump is like too senile now
already, but I if that would

1241
01:00:40,160 –> 01:00:41,960
have happened, I don’t know.
There’s no way it could have

1242
01:00:41,960 –> 01:00:43,080
happened.
But and then I don’t know where

1243
01:00:43,080 –> 01:00:45,400
Joe Biden comes on a part of the
Green Party.

1244
01:00:45,560 –> 01:00:47,360
With a steel chair.
I can do that.

1245
01:00:48,480 –> 01:00:52,280
So yeah, I mean, I don’t know, I
could see if they if the right

1246
01:00:52,280 –> 01:00:54,440
administration takes over at
some point.

1247
01:00:54,840 –> 01:00:57,520
Just the public, the debate
between them, they interact very

1248
01:00:57,520 –> 01:01:00,160
little for two people that have
so much to do with one another.

1249
01:01:00,360 –> 01:01:03,440
Have you ever like there’s a
picture of Trump and Obama

1250
01:01:03,680 –> 01:01:07,720
together at some function in
January 2025 and they look like

1251
01:01:07,720 –> 01:01:09,880
they are having the time of
their fucking lives?

1252
01:01:09,880 –> 01:01:13,720
Oh, yeah, they’re like laughing
and like it’s, it’s, it’s almost

1253
01:01:13,720 –> 01:01:16,600
like it was just a role.
Like it was like, you do this

1254
01:01:16,600 –> 01:01:18,920
thing and we’ll do the whole
COVID pandemic and then I’ll be

1255
01:01:18,920 –> 01:01:20,640
president again.
Yeah.

1256
01:01:21,240 –> 01:01:23,240
I gotta see the video.
It’s a pretty good clip.

1257
01:01:23,640 –> 01:01:25,520
Yeah, I mean, I haven’t.
It’s kind of like Jimmy.

1258
01:01:25,640 –> 01:01:28,120
It’s kind of like when you see
Jimmy Carter and Fidel Castro at

1259
01:01:28,120 –> 01:01:29,920
a funeral kind of being like,
hey, what’s up, bro?

1260
01:01:31,400 –> 01:01:34,920
It is a lot like that because
I’ve seen two pictures and in

1261
01:01:34,960 –> 01:01:38,560
one Trump is just fucking
cracking up at something Obama

1262
01:01:38,560 –> 01:01:42,200
said and then in the other one
it’s Obama with just clearly

1263
01:01:42,200 –> 01:01:47,120
laugh lol and at something Trump
said and now here we are what,

1264
01:01:47,120 –> 01:01:50,680
6-7 months later and Trump’s
trying to send this guy to

1265
01:01:50,680 –> 01:01:52,640
prison?
It doesn’t not feel like

1266
01:01:52,640 –> 01:01:55,000
wrestling shit sometimes, you
know?

1267
01:01:55,400 –> 01:01:58,280
Yeah, I think that Trump is, you
know, just like Joe Biden’s

1268
01:01:58,280 –> 01:02:00,880
dementia.
He had a very, he had kind of a

1269
01:02:00,880 –> 01:02:04,240
hybrid strain of of dementia
that where, you know, he would

1270
01:02:04,240 –> 01:02:06,600
get kind of confused and in his
body.

1271
01:02:06,600 –> 01:02:11,960
And Trump has a very sativa.
He gets angry and paranoid, you

1272
01:02:11,960 –> 01:02:15,280
know, and Richard Nixon, he when
he gets all dementia.

1273
01:02:15,320 –> 01:02:18,920
So I think this is just kind of
like another one of his, the

1274
01:02:18,920 –> 01:02:20,320
drums to beat.
I don’t know.

1275
01:02:20,640 –> 01:02:23,520
Yeah, who knows?
But yeah, so I don’t know, get

1276
01:02:23,520 –> 01:02:26,160
excited for another Obama
administration in a few years.

1277
01:02:26,520 –> 01:02:29,800
We’ll see.
Do we have any final thoughts on

1278
01:02:30,000 –> 01:02:33,400
Obama and Trump, Obama versus
Trump?

1279
01:02:33,640 –> 01:02:36,320
I guess we could call it Royal
Royal Rumble.

1280
01:02:36,400 –> 01:02:37,840
I don’t know what number we’re
up to now.

1281
01:02:39,200 –> 01:02:43,760
I’m just I’m just tracking how
old Malia is for for real.

1282
01:02:45,560 –> 01:02:47,040
She’s got to be up there now,
right?

1283
01:02:47,240 –> 01:02:53,800
She’s at least. 55 years old.
I think, I mean, I think she’s

1284
01:02:53,800 –> 01:02:56,480
out of college, but she’s got to
get got to get the 36.

1285
01:02:57,800 –> 01:03:00,440
So yeah, I think that’s our
episode.

1286
01:03:00,680 –> 01:03:03,960
We did it.
Fun time, thank you for having

1287
01:03:03,960 –> 01:03:05,960
me.
Yeah, Dante color mine.

1288
01:03:06,080 –> 01:03:07,880
Connor, thank you all for doing
the pod.

1289
01:03:07,960 –> 01:03:09,760
I appreciate it.
This was a really good episode.

1290
01:03:10,040 –> 01:03:11,920
Feels like the perfect time to
plug some shit.

1291
01:03:12,040 –> 01:03:15,440
What do we have to plug?
All I want you to do is follow

1292
01:03:15,440 –> 01:03:18,840
me on Blue sky, I guess at Adam
Todd, Brown dot B, Sky dot

1293
01:03:18,840 –> 01:03:23,280
social.
I can play something I I am a

1294
01:03:23,280 –> 01:03:27,240
rapper and lyricist.
If you guys want to follow me, I

1295
01:03:27,240 –> 01:03:31,320
make music Winbow XIV.
You can follow me on Instagram.

1296
01:03:31,320 –> 01:03:34,440
I kind of should post on
Instagram, but I guess you could

1297
01:03:34,440 –> 01:03:36,920
follow me there.
I also have a bank camp if you

1298
01:03:36,920 –> 01:03:39,880
guys want to go check it out.
It’s just a Winbow XIV.

1299
01:03:40,120 –> 01:03:42,240
Have a couple of little projects
from there.

1300
01:03:42,760 –> 01:03:43,920
So yeah, that’s all I have to
plug.

1301
01:03:44,720 –> 01:03:48,880
What do you got?
Awesome, you guys, can I?

1302
01:03:49,160 –> 01:03:53,000
I also make music.
I do YouTube videos often with

1303
01:03:53,000 –> 01:03:55,600
my music in there.
So go ahead, check me out on

1304
01:03:55,600 –> 01:03:57,080
YouTube, colour mine.
You already see it on your

1305
01:03:57,080 –> 01:03:59,880
screen.
A new video coming out this

1306
01:03:59,880 –> 01:04:02,560
month actually on economics,
going to talk about the

1307
01:04:02,560 –> 01:04:06,120
Prisoner’s dilemma and the
capitalism’s original scent.

1308
01:04:07,680 –> 01:04:10,720
And I likewise, I’ll also have a
band camp where you guys can

1309
01:04:10,720 –> 01:04:13,160
check out some of the original
music that’s in all these

1310
01:04:13,160 –> 01:04:15,160
episodes, All the episodes.
Jesus, we’ve been talking for a

1311
01:04:15,160 –> 01:04:17,080
while.
You can go to my band camp to

1312
01:04:17,080 –> 01:04:18,080
check out all the original
music.

1313
01:04:18,080 –> 01:04:20,160
It music and all the episodes
and that’s that as

1314
01:04:20,160 –> 01:04:27,760
sunwater.bandcamp.com, Sun
Water, SXNWATER and yeah.

1315
01:04:28,320 –> 01:04:30,200
Next, Connor, what do you want
to plug?

1316
01:04:30,480 –> 01:04:33,400
I have very little musical
ability whatsoever.

1317
01:04:33,400 –> 01:04:36,120
You don’t have to worry about
expanding your mind with any

1318
01:04:36,120 –> 01:04:38,480
kind of Sonic landscapes that
I’ll be creating.

1319
01:04:38,800 –> 01:04:43,240
I do have a comedy special about
all the hottest pussy drugs and

1320
01:04:43,240 –> 01:04:46,640
racist jokes of 10 years ago
called Live in Tucson.

1321
01:04:46,640 –> 01:04:49,880
You can watch it on youtube.com.
And I think that’s it.

1322
01:04:50,280 –> 01:04:52,160
Let’s get the fuck out of here,
Dante.

1323
01:04:52,160 –> 01:04:53,560
Say goodbye.
Farewell.

1324
01:04:53,920 –> 01:04:56,160
Color mine say goodbye for.
Your healthcare for all.

1325
01:04:56,760 –> 01:04:59,360
Connor, say goodbye.
What did people say?

1326
01:04:59,360 –> 01:05:03,400
Thanks, Obama.
Goodbye everybody, we love you.