Conspiracy! The Show 368: Who Killed Diane Lane’s Anti-Fascism Movie?

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I.
Well, hey everybody, welcome

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back to Conspiracy the show.
I am your host Adam Todd Brown

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joining me as Co host Conor
Mcspadden’s here.

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How’s it going, man?
It’s good.

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We’re the Siskel and Ebert of
the AM Radio ham radio crowd.

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Damn right.
Today, yeah.

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Yeah, we are putting on our
movie reviewer hats for this

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episode because for one thing,
Dad, I.

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Told you it was not a bad idea
to invest in those hats.

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For one thing, Dad has to take
it easy because I am fresh out

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of the hospital.
Lost a little weight last week

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in the form of the pointer toe
on my left foot.

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Had to have that chopped off.
It felt like a vanity toe.

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Anyway.
I might have the other one taken

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off just for Feng shui reasons
honestly.

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You found out that this is a
total life hack.

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You lose 6 oz and you run
slightly faster or something.

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Yeah, I just have an insane
vertical now.

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It’s still too unathletic to do
anything with it.

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I can jump really high but I’ll
shatter my fucking ankle when I

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land.
Adam is 6th man for the Hornets.

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Yeah, I had a medical emergency,
spent my New Year’s Eve in the

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hospital, so there was no
episodes last week.

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Deal with it, Missy.
I told Adam whatever he needs,

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I’m there.
I’m right there behind him.

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I stand behind him, nine toes
down.

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Connor’s been waiting to drop
that joke.

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We talked about it before we
started recording.

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I just sort of panicked and did
it inelegantly here because I

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was like, I didn’t want to, you
know?

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I don’t want to forget a fucking
gem like that.

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And I mean, how often is my foot
going to come up?

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Honestly, on the rest of the
episode?

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I feel obligated to tell people
why there was no episode last

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week.
I’m.

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Going to be referring to you as
nine toes brown for decades.

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Yeah, it’s certainly.
Not what we’re talking about

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this week.
Yeah, the conspiracy is where

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did Adam’s Togo some medical
waste bin?

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Somewhere in the.
Yeah, there’s no real conspiracy

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behind how my toe got infected.
I waited too long to go to the

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doctor.
Actually, I didn’t wait too

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long.
Too long.

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I might have died because I had
the flesh eating disease.

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Which MRSA?
Yeah.

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All I’ve ever heard of that is
you get that and you’re like

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dead three days later.
I’ve had a flesh eating disease

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before.
You can come back from a flesh

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eating disease.
I mean living proof buddy, I

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made it out.
Yeah, yeah, it’s both of us now.

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Yeah, Hell yeah.
Survivors of body rot.

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Yeah, I wonder how many other
conspiracy podcasts can say that

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both hosts survive necrotizing
fasciitis.

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Probably quite a few, actually.
I know it’s a hack joke but that

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is literally a sick name for a
band.

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As soon as you said necrotizing
fasciitis, I just pictured in

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that pile of sticks metal font.
Yeah, I didn’t know what

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infection I actually had until I
overheard 2 nurses talking about

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it just in the room in front of
me and I googled it and was like

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oh shit, that’s something to
have survived.

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That’s right up there with
having smoked crack.

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Honestly nine toes crack
smoking.

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You’re like a fucking country
song bro.

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So we’re talking about a movie
this week, a recent movie that

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I’m pretty sure you didn’t see
anyone listening to this.

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It made $600,000 at the box
office.

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I would give yourself some
serious hipster points if you’ve

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seen this movie.
Yeah, if you are among the

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$672,711.00 that were spent at
this movie, I would love to hear

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from you.
How did it happen?

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Was it an accident?
Was the movie you wanted to see

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sold out?
I don’t know, but it’s a 2025

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film called Anniversary.
I’m going to figure out how many

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people that is.
So what, 15 bucks a ticket?

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Yeah, roughly.
If you’re one of the 44,847

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people that actually went to the
movies and saw this.

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That is so few people compared
to just the general population

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of the country.
That’s just not a lot.

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Even the worst performing post
on the Costco guys page and it’s

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got more views than 44,000.
Oh my God.

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Yeah, this movie, it’s got a
decent cast.

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Stars Diane Lane and Kyle
Chandler, The guy from Friday

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Night Lights.
I always have to look up his

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name.
He will forever just be the guy

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from Friday Night Lights, just
like most people on The Wire

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will always just be the guy from
The Wire to me.

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I don’t know any of those
actors.

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I mean, Michael K Williams, I
guess, Idris Elba, There’s a

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few, but beyond that, that’s all
just a bunch of dudes from The

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Wire and same thing with Kyle
Chandler.

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This movie, like we’ve already
hinted at, seems like it fell

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through the cracks to say the
least when it comes to critics

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and viewers both was released
October 20th, 2020.

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Five $7 million budget and made
672 foul.

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Wow, that’s it.
LED slightly less than 10%

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return.
Yeah, that’s tough.

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Directed by a guy named Jan
Komasa.

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Who previously was nominated for
an Academy Award for Best

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International Feature Film,
Ironically enough for a film

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called Corpus Christi, financed
and distributed by Lionsgate.

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But it has been suggested that
Lionsgate buried this film

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because of its subject matter.
Well, good news is you got

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distribution.
Bad news is it’s by a company

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that hates everything you stand
for and bought your product only

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out of spite to squash it.
The claim here is that this

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movie was made in 2023 when
everyone thought Biden was going

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to win, which I don’t know who
everyone is in that scenario.

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I was pretty off board with
Biden winning by 2023 myself.

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But one of the claims here is
that when they were making this

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movie, they assumed Biden was
going to win in 2024.

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And then this would just come
out as some sort of, oh, this is

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the nightmare that could have
been.

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And instead, we had Trump won.
And they’re like, shit, if we

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put this movie out, Trump’s
going to sue us or something.

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Yeah.
Not to get too ahead of

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ourselves, but this movie is
almost loses believability

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because the fascism has an
elegance to it.

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It starts with a book.
Trump ISM doesn’t start with a

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goddamn book.
When someone’s guy wrote a book

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that everybody read and thought
about and it changed their

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minds.
Yeah, the tipping point for this

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country is going to be a meme
with a really buff Trump.

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There’ll be a fucking eagle on
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Be called the gay Andy and
they’ll be like, well, you’re

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being a gay Andy, so I’m just
going to fucking kill you

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because I yeah, what am IA Gay
Andy?

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This movie covers five years in
the life of a family that is

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torn apart under the weight of a
burgeoning fascist regime in the

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United States.
You mentioned ATV show before we

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started recording that very
similar to this.

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Years and years.
Yeah, which, if people haven’t

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seen that, it is an HBO limited
series.

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Really, really good and very
similar premise.

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Very, very similar.
You’re just kind of seeing a

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family unravel under the weight
of a fascist regime.

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I think that series is maybe a
little better than this movie,

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but I think just because this is
the kind of story that I think

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needs a little more room to
breathe and develop, then you

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can get in.
The span of this is only like an

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hour or 40, something like that.
Tastefully brief as far as

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movies go these days.
Yeah, it didn’t really drag at

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any point.
Yeah, years and years.

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I like just because when it
comes to stuff like the decline

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of humanity, I like the lore,
you know, like, oh, OK, they got

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the drones flying around with
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The rest part of their lore, the
past curfew drones, I could have

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done with some more of that
stuff, but they got a lot of

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good world building in the time
that they had.

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Yeah, I would like to know more
about the government in the.

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This was the girl running it.
I don’t think she was.

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I mean, she wrote the book I.
Think she’s basically like the

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what the fuck is that guy’s name
is to Curtis Yelchin or

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something.
The guy that the Dark

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Enlightenment guy?
Curtis Yarvin.

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Oh yeah, yeah.
Yeah, she’s like the Curtis

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Yarvin of this centrist fascism
thing.

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Stars in the middle of the flag
movement.

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The change?
The change is what this idea

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she’s pushing is, and they don’t
go into a lot of detail, but it

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seems like she’s mostly pushing
for, hey, this two party system,

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it’s not working out.
We should have just a one party

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system instead.
Then there’s nothing to fight

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about.
And somehow most of the country

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is like, yeah.
I read this book.

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Yeah, it sounds insane to me.
Just to none of them.

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I’m saying it out loud.
I’m like, how did I even buy

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this movie for a second?
There’s a popular book.

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Yeah, it would have to become a
documentary at some point.

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Yeah, that guy turned into a
series of analytical YouTube

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videos.
Yeah, yeah, The Secret started

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as a book, but that eventually
they turn that into a movie.

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So yeah, I can see the change
being the same thing.

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Here’s the thing.
It’s also the kind of thing

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people would lie about having
read it.

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They would get the gist of it
and be like, yeah, yeah,

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abundance.
Gotcha.

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Yeah, centrist.
That’s me.

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I’m yeah.
Kill all the radicals on both

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sides, let’s come together.
Yeah, a lot of people just

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fucking fall for it.
The suggestion, though, is that

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this movie was buried on account
of the studio being

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uncomfortable releasing it
during the second reign of

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Trump.
This is a quote from Frank

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Wooliger, a partner at Gersh who
represents director Jan Komasa.

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The film was buried because it’s
incendiary.

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To me, it’s a sign of the world
we live in.

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End Quote.
And this is producer Nick

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Wexler.
I’ve never had a movie that we

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thought was really interesting
that no one was aware of.

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It’s hard to market a political
film today.

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People are afraid of them.
They don’t know how it will be

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received emotionally.
It’s a weird time.

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Yeah, it is one of these things.
Or who’s like, well, I need an

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escape.
How about politics?

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Yeah, back in the 90s, politics
was so you could just ignore

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Bill Clinton and Newt Gingrich,
so you can then go watch The

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West Wing because you had space
emotionally for political

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content.
I would agree with what he’s

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saying, but also what about 1
Battle After Another, which is a

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decidedly political movie that
people are calling the best film

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of the year.
It’s damn near 3 hours long.

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Seems like they did an OK job
marketing and selling that.

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Doesn’t no one have Leo DiCaprio
in it?

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It sure as shit does well.
That helps your movie a little

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bit.
Yeah, and Benicio del Toro in

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the booth also.
In the booth.

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Yeah, so.
So that means he’s spitting.

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So in that he’s, that means he’s
acting.

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Yeah, exactly.
That movie makes me kind of

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question that argument that it’s
hard to sell a political movie.

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And also, I mean, Diane Lane
isn’t nobody.

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She’s no Leonardo DiCaprio, I
guess, but this is her first

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movie since before COVID.
I.

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Just I’d like to imagine a
Family Guy cut away Diane Lane

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hearing that going, you’re the,
you know, Leonardo DiCaprio,

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honey.
And she’s like, I know.

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Yeah, this movie, it wasn’t
reviewed by the New York Times,

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the LA Times, The Washington
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Any of the Gay Andy papers.
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are kowtow into the fascists
these days bothered reviewing

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this film.
Only two cast members aside from

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Diane Lane and Kyle Chandler
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claim being that most were
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from the project by their
respective agents and publicity.

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Wow, you got to love show
business.

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We’re concerned that you might
be perceived as principled.

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Yeah, I do remember on more than
one occasion when Trump was

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running for office the first
time, there’s a few different

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comedians I had booked on the
Unpopular Opinion podcast, and

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when I sent them the topic and
they found out we were talking

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about Trump, they were like,
sorry, my manager says I can’t

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talk about politics.
Was that decision agent in your

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fucking craw now?
Probably fine.

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Yeah, probably great, to be
honest with you.

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Yeah, I was out here buying
products and consuming them with

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my friends and family.
So this movie again was

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initially filmed in 2023, and
one of the articles we’ll link

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to about it says they thought
Biden was going to win when they

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filmed it, and then when he
didn’t, they pushed the release

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back.
To which I say, you fucking

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cowards, Why?
Honestly, what was Trump going

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to do about this movie?
This really symbolic, kind of

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subtle movie.
Yeah, that Civil War movie did

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fine at the box office.
No one got sued.

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I mean, the fucking fascist
president spoiler gets shot in

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the face in that no one called
it a leftist incitement to

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violence.
They should have just fucking

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put this movie out.
I mean, they did, but they did

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it very stealth.
They weren’t standing 9 toes

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down behind it.
Absolutely not.

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This was 5 mid 6 toes at most.
I don’t remember which of the

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three articles we linked to but
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release in LA and it was only at
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and only as a matinee thing.
Super super limited release.

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Oh wow.
Which I don’t know, seems weird

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a little.
Bit it definitely seems like you

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tried to bury it a little bit.
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to release it in time for the
election, but then the shooting

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of Charlie Kirk happened, and
for some reason, they decided

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that was grounds to push the
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This is another quote from Frank
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Do I want this film to be on
Trump’s radar and have him

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attack this film from the
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I have sympathy for Lionsgate
here.

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They buried it.
They could have buried it worse,

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but they made the movie and
that’s impressive.

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And quote, I don’t know, I don’t
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Yeah, it’s kind of like, you
know, when Aston Martin needs to

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fucking comply with emissions
regulations, so they convert a

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smart car into an Aston Martin
and call it an Aston Martin just

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because they need a little 3
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so they can comply with this.
It’s like, yeah, look at this

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one cool thing we made.
You know, we make cool stuff.

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We didn’t pay attention to it or
nurture it or try to promote it

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at all, but we’ve made it.
We threw some money at it so we

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could say we did it.
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maybe could have changed a
couple minds going into the

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election.
This would have been great if

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this got more wide scale
publicity or any publicity at

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all.
Trailers showed before other

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Lionsgate movies, but that was
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So that’s the controversy behind
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That’s the back story.
We should talk about the movie

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itself because you can watch it
now.

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It’s available to rent at the
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I think it’s like 490-9599.
But it’s also going to be on

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Hulu soon, so you can just hold
out for that if you want.

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I like the movie.
It’s not probably what you’re

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expecting from a dystopian film
about a future fascist

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government.
There’s not a lot of violence.

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There’s a lot of modern
farmhouse interiors movie that’s

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about a dystopian government in
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Yeah, there’s a lot of family
functions.

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It’s called anniversary.
It starts and ends at an

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anniversary party, the 25th and
30th anniversary of the two main

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characters, Diane Lane and Kyle
Chandler’s characters.

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Diane Lane plays a Georgetown
professor who had a run in with

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a student in the past because
that student wrote a paper

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called The Change Birth of a
Nation.

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Which fucking gulp.
Don’t put Birth of a Nation in

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the title of your shit.
I was supposed to said you

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Google that.
Yeah, and there’s a bad

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connotation to have.
The new book My Struggle by

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Connor.
Respect.

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And uh oh, one day this student
that Diane Lane had this

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confrontation with turns up
dating Diane Lane’s son.

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They are both writers and they
were introduced through their

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agent.
They have the same agent.

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And we start the movie at this
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And the girl who wrote the
change, the Nazi in training,

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her name’s Liz.
She’s standing in the mirror

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trying to be normal.
She’s practicing saying hi to

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people, which is weird.
It would be alarming if you just

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saw it happening because you
should be able to just say hi.

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Yeah, it doesn’t seem like the
kind of thing you need to

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overthink this much.
Yeah, And everything I just said

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about their past relationship,
they don’t tell you that right

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away.
It kind of builds up to that.

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We meet the rest of the family.
There’s a sister who is a stand

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up comedian who’s getting kind
of famous.

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By the way, that’s how you know
this is a pretty good movie

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because it has a depiction of a
stand up comedian in it and I

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still approve of the movie.
Yeah.

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Tough to do, it was definitely
the worst part of the movie that

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parts that had fake stand up in
it, but it was done tastefully

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enough that I accepted.
Well it is pretty relevant also

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because if you look into all the
things that are happening in

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India with fascism right now,
that is super common.

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Stand up comedians, if they say
anything about the government,

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motherfuckers will take to the
stage and beat the shit out of

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them or they will send a
bulldozer knock their fucking

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house down.
It’s bad times.

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It’s worse than it is here right
now.

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Like you can still get on stage
and joke about Trump and maybe

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someone in the audience is going
to get a little cranky, but it’s

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not like India and it’s not like
what you see in this movie yet,

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but it’s getting there.
So Liz at this family function

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is very divisive presence
because everyone knows she’s a

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fucking fascist.
Who wrote this paper?

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She was ostracized from
Georgetown after she wrote it

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because of liberal mind virus.
And as everyone is leaving this

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party, Liz walks up to Ellen,
that is Diane Lane’s character’s

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name, and hugs her and says, you
know, I used to be afraid of

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you, but I don’t think I am
anymore.

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And then that’s just how that
scene ends.

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It’s got sort of almost kind of
horror movie vibes at first

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because you don’t really know
what Liz is up to.

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Yeah, and she’s very unassuming.
She doesn’t necessarily strike

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you as the creator of the new
hot breed of fascism.

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She’s pretty mild mannered.
Yeah, she doesn’t seem

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threatening at all, almost to
the point that maybe she was

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just misunderstood by the Libs,
but by the end it’s clear that’s

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not.
In case this movie is good, but

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there are some moments like in
any movie where, I don’t know,

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it’s got its eye roll.
Moments like when Ellen gets the

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book copy of the change just in
the mail and is completely

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caught off guard that this thing
exists.

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It’s like you would have known
that book was coming out.

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That is your son’s girlfriend.
You’ve had all this fucking

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conflict.
There would have been some promo

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behind it and she’s just blown
away that this book has arrived

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at her home.
It’s like you knew you would

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have known, but it’s a minor
sticking point, I guess.

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But that happens.
The change becomes a book, and

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that’s when we meet the
Cumberland Company.

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I like that part.
There’s this mysterious

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organization that is behind all
of this.

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They get behind the change and
Liz’s book.

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This is not to be confused by
the way, with the Cumberbunk

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Company, which is sort of a
seasonal business around prom

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time.
It’s sort of the H&R Block of

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the prom.
They really only operate during

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it’s kind of a prom centric
period, but anyway.

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But still also very right wing
connected.

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Yes, and tied to the Heritage
Foundation.

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Yeah, yeah, very nefarious
outfit.

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They just also will spice up
your outfit with a nice cumber

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bun.
The Cumberland Company, you

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don’t learn much about them
either in this.

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See, that’s kind of what I was
missing from this is all of the

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fascism, the government,
whatever the Cumberland Company

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is doing, it all is happening in
the background and you don’t

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really see it.
It reminds me of The Purge, the

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first Purge movie, the original
OG Purge movie, where it

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promises you one thing, which is
unbridled chaos in the streets.

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Everything’s legal, murder,
whatever you want.

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All this carnage, it’s all
happening now.

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Now let’s put a camera inside
Ethan Hawke’s home and just

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watch what happens there.
It’s like, no, Get Me Out in the

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streets.
I want to see the fucking

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violence happening out there.
This kind of hit me in the same

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way where it’s like, show me the
government.

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I want to see Diane Lane and
alligator Alcatraz.

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Yeah, we almost get there.
Yeah, we get close.

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Yeah.
I guess we’re just supposed to

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assume that this move toward the
center, that’s not going to

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leave room for any rabble
rousers on either side.

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So I guess they just killed
everyone.

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But yeah, this could have used
some world building.

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It could have used.
I mean, it could have stood to

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be a little longer, I think.
But it it also kind of reminds

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me of that horror movie Good
Boy, where you just see it from

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the dog’s perspective.
This is you’re just seeing the

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fascism from the perspective of
this family who are very

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connected to it, but also kind
of disconnected from it because

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they’re not fascists.
They don’t support this.

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Their son just happens to now be
married eventually to the woman

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who invented the idea.
I liked his character art that

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he was a fail son and it totally
went to his head.

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Yeah, he by the end is probably
the most unlikable person in the

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room.
I have several times in the

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notes that I was just really,
really hoping that guy would get

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shot in the face.
He’s just a movie character.

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I can say that with No Fear of
repercussion.

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I wish this guy would have got
shot in the goddamn face.

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When the clown shows up I
thought he was getting shot.

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Yep.
Did you know who the clown was?

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I knew the clown was
immediately.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I was.

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I knew who the clown was, and I
was like, she’s gonna shoot that

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motherfucker in the face, but
we’ll get there.

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So that’s the early part.
We find out that this paper has

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been made into a book.
It becomes this big cultural

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phenomenon.
And now there’s another holiday

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gathering.
Liz is pregnant this time.

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Josh announces that Liz is going
to be a guest lecturer at

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Georgetown, and Liz asks Ellen
to do the introduction.

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That turns into a whole debacle.
It was a bold move.

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This is like a very frenemy
move.

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Yeah.
Like give you this honor I know

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you’d hate.
Yeah, there’s a lot of passive

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aggressiveness in this movie.
And before everyone leaves, Liz

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creeps into the youngest
starter’s room and tries to

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buddy up to her, which sets up a
great moment later where Ellen

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00:24:48,040 –> 00:24:50,720
is talking to Liz.
And she goes, If you try to

436
00:24:50,720 –> 00:24:53,480
groom another one of my kids, I
will kill you.

437
00:24:53,600 –> 00:24:55,480
Fun scene.
Well, you know.

438
00:24:55,480 –> 00:24:58,960
It’s the power of motherhood.
Yeah, one of the things that you

439
00:24:58,960 –> 00:25:05,800
see in this is Ellen sort of
losing her shit as time goes on

440
00:25:05,840 –> 00:25:10,320
because Liz, the student that
she had all this conflict with,

441
00:25:10,480 –> 00:25:13,840
is winning, and her ideas are
winning.

442
00:25:13,840 –> 00:25:18,040
She has infiltrated her family
and taken her son away.

443
00:25:18,120 –> 00:25:21,120
She’s trying to go after her
other kids.

444
00:25:21,160 –> 00:25:25,640
And you see Ellen just breaking
down over time.

445
00:25:25,640 –> 00:25:29,280
There’s a viral video of her
tearing up a neighbor’s flag

446
00:25:29,480 –> 00:25:34,160
because the flag changes under
this regime that it’s still red,

447
00:25:34,160 –> 00:25:39,640
white and blue with the stars,
but the blue and the stars are

448
00:25:39,640 –> 00:25:43,680
in the middle of the flag now
instead of on the left.

449
00:25:43,680 –> 00:25:45,680
Get it?
Spooky.

450
00:25:45,680 –> 00:25:48,680
One side.
There’s only one the center.

451
00:25:48,800 –> 00:25:52,120
That’d be one of the toughest
things to come back from just in

452
00:25:52,120 –> 00:25:55,440
terms of yourself esteem.
It’s like having like your sort

453
00:25:55,440 –> 00:25:57,960
of frustrated Karen moment go
viral.

454
00:25:58,040 –> 00:26:01,280
Yeah, that happens and you can’t
really tell the flag is

455
00:26:01,280 –> 00:26:04,840
different in that scene.
It’s not till later on there’s a

456
00:26:04,840 –> 00:26:08,080
scene with the daughter and her
boyfriend and then you see that

457
00:26:08,080 –> 00:26:10,920
flag again because at first it
looks like she’s just fucking up

458
00:26:10,920 –> 00:26:12,840
an American flag.
And you’re like, all right,

459
00:26:12,840 –> 00:26:14,360
sister.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

460
00:26:14,360 –> 00:26:16,160
Facts, lady.
Right on.

461
00:26:16,280 –> 00:26:21,240
And so then they cut to one year
later and this is when Comedy

462
00:26:21,240 –> 00:26:25,240
Daughter is on stage.
She’s got the flag on her shirt

463
00:26:25,240 –> 00:26:29,040
but it’s crossed out and she’s
talking shit about the

464
00:26:29,040 –> 00:26:32,480
government and people just come
on stage and beat the shit out

465
00:26:32,480 –> 00:26:35,320
of her.
She ends up in the hospital and

466
00:26:35,320 –> 00:26:39,480
then disappears when she is
discharged from the hospital.

467
00:26:39,520 –> 00:26:42,440
I assume she was dead.
At first I thought she was dead

468
00:26:42,440 –> 00:26:44,680
too, yeah.
I thought that was what they

469
00:26:44,680 –> 00:26:47,960
were getting at was that she had
been killed.

470
00:26:48,080 –> 00:26:51,960
Had been disappeared, yeah.
So by this point the country is

471
00:26:51,960 –> 00:26:56,280
just a fascist to hellscape.
Youngest sister is looking for

472
00:26:56,280 –> 00:26:59,320
comedy sister on the dark web
again.

473
00:26:59,320 –> 00:27:01,720
Implication that she’s been
disappeared.

474
00:27:01,800 –> 00:27:04,960
Ellen is on some sort of watch
list now and can’t work.

475
00:27:05,080 –> 00:27:06,840
But we got another family
gathering.

476
00:27:06,840 –> 00:27:09,880
It’s dad’s birthday.
Josh and Liz show up.

477
00:27:09,920 –> 00:27:14,480
Shit is tense on account of
comedy daughter getting black

478
00:27:14,480 –> 00:27:18,000
bagged.
And this is where we sort of

479
00:27:18,000 –> 00:27:21,400
find out that comedy daughter
might not be dead.

480
00:27:21,760 –> 00:27:25,840
Maybe Dad knows where she is.
Maybe she’s just hiding out and

481
00:27:25,920 –> 00:27:30,560
it’s just sort of hinted at
because fascist dickhead son

482
00:27:30,560 –> 00:27:34,680
tries to get Dad to bring him on
as a silent investor in his

483
00:27:34,680 –> 00:27:37,480
struggling restaurant.
And Dad’s like, what?

484
00:27:37,480 –> 00:27:38,920
You think I’m just going to give
up Anna?

485
00:27:39,000 –> 00:27:40,560
The kids like, you know where
she is.

486
00:27:40,640 –> 00:27:42,880
So up to that point, I thought
she was dead.

487
00:27:43,000 –> 00:27:47,000
But they inject a little drama
there and make it clear that

488
00:27:47,000 –> 00:27:50,640
maybe she’s not like that.
I also like that they seem to

489
00:27:50,640 –> 00:27:53,160
have kept it from the mom just
because they didn’t trust her to

490
00:27:53,160 –> 00:27:56,520
not shut up about it.
Yeah, that seemed like the right

491
00:27:56,520 –> 00:27:58,440
call.
Mom was wigging out by this

492
00:27:58,440 –> 00:28:00,520
point.
I mean, I hate to bring up the

493
00:28:00,520 –> 00:28:03,160
flag video, but you know, it’s
relevant.

494
00:28:03,360 –> 00:28:08,160
Yeah, it’s not a good look.
I have neighbors who flew Trump

495
00:28:08,160 –> 00:28:10,520
flags the day before the
election.

496
00:28:10,560 –> 00:28:15,080
I wasn’t psyched, but then tear
the shit down, guess on it or

497
00:28:15,080 –> 00:28:17,320
anything.
They got doorbell cameras.

498
00:28:17,600 –> 00:28:21,520
You know, I like this, but it
was another thing I wish they

499
00:28:21,520 –> 00:28:24,760
could have built on a little
more or expanded on.

500
00:28:24,800 –> 00:28:30,000
When Josh and Liz, the fascists
show up for dad’s birthday, they

501
00:28:30,000 –> 00:28:33,720
have this creepy ass nanny with
them who is teaching the kids

502
00:28:33,720 –> 00:28:36,440
German.
She seems very stern, almost

503
00:28:36,440 –> 00:28:41,080
military like, kind of scary.
But then at one point she pulls

504
00:28:41,080 –> 00:28:45,960
Ellen the mom aside and shows
her a video of comedy daughter

505
00:28:46,000 –> 00:28:48,800
who is alive.
So the fascists have an

506
00:28:48,800 –> 00:28:52,600
infiltrator in their midst and
they never tell us anything else

507
00:28:52,600 –> 00:28:55,680
about that.
This woman is clearly working

508
00:28:55,680 –> 00:29:00,080
for the resistance or something.
And that’s all we get is that

509
00:29:00,080 –> 00:29:03,280
moment where she shows Ellen the
video that proves her daughter’s

510
00:29:03,280 –> 00:29:07,160
alive and then she’s like thumbs
up and fucking runs back off.

511
00:29:07,360 –> 00:29:09,320
Oh yeah, I wonder if there’s
more that could edit it out, or

512
00:29:09,320 –> 00:29:10,920
if that was all they ever
intended to show.

513
00:29:10,920 –> 00:29:14,960
It does seem like kind of weird
nugget to drop it to not pay

514
00:29:14,960 –> 00:29:16,640
off.
Yeah, this could have been

515
00:29:16,640 –> 00:29:18,760
longer.
I don’t say that that often

516
00:29:18,880 –> 00:29:22,920
about movies, but I think this
should have been a little bit

517
00:29:22,920 –> 00:29:25,200
longer.
I think one of the probably

518
00:29:25,200 –> 00:29:29,480
creepiest scenes is when the
census takers show up.

519
00:29:30,440 –> 00:29:35,080
Yeah, those two ladies sure are
a problem because there’s a new

520
00:29:35,080 –> 00:29:39,440
census that is being conducted
in the United States in this

521
00:29:39,440 –> 00:29:44,160
version of the future.
And you basically have to sign a

522
00:29:44,160 –> 00:29:48,680
thing saying you support the
change and you are a change

523
00:29:48,760 –> 00:29:51,960
household.
And if you don’t, bad things

524
00:29:52,120 –> 00:29:56,320
could happen to you.
And these two census takers show

525
00:29:56,320 –> 00:29:57,840
up.
They’re girls.

526
00:29:57,840 –> 00:30:02,680
They’re young, probably 20s,
early 30s at best, and they’re

527
00:30:02,680 –> 00:30:07,640
being really pleasant in a
really threatening kind of way.

528
00:30:07,720 –> 00:30:10,800
It’s like you would have to
watch the scene.

529
00:30:11,280 –> 00:30:14,040
It kind of reminded me of the
beginning of Inglorious Basterds

530
00:30:14,040 –> 00:30:17,480
when he’s talking to that guy
when Londa is just interrogating

531
00:30:17,480 –> 00:30:21,440
him faux pleasantly.
Yeah, it’s a lot like that.

532
00:30:21,520 –> 00:30:24,760
It’s unsettling.
They show them pictures of their

533
00:30:24,760 –> 00:30:28,960
youngest daughter at a protest
and threaten to charge her with

534
00:30:29,040 –> 00:30:32,520
terrorism, basically, and to
send her to prison.

535
00:30:32,560 –> 00:30:37,400
So Ellen ends up signing it.
She just grabs it and signs it,

536
00:30:37,400 –> 00:30:39,840
which at that point, what else
can you do?

537
00:30:39,960 –> 00:30:43,240
I mean, it turns out to be too
little too late, but what can

538
00:30:43,240 –> 00:30:45,440
you do?
Yeah, if they got you on the

539
00:30:45,440 –> 00:30:47,800
ground with rocks and
pitchforks.

540
00:30:47,920 –> 00:30:50,520
Is your God really going to be
mad at you if you denounce your

541
00:30:50,520 –> 00:30:53,720
religion?
And so then we get to the

542
00:30:53,760 –> 00:30:56,440
anniversary party that ends the
film.

543
00:30:56,640 –> 00:31:00,080
This covers again, five years in
this family’s life.

544
00:31:00,200 –> 00:31:04,760
And Liz and Josh, the fascists,
show up once again.

545
00:31:04,840 –> 00:31:08,840
But this time, Liz, she
immediately kind of corners

546
00:31:08,840 –> 00:31:16,160
Ellen and now she’s scared of
Josh, the no good Nick son who

547
00:31:16,160 –> 00:31:19,480
just married into all this shit.
She goes to Ellen and she’s

548
00:31:19,480 –> 00:31:22,320
like, listen, as a mom, I need
you to help me.

549
00:31:22,360 –> 00:31:25,480
This son of yours is out of
control.

550
00:31:25,680 –> 00:31:29,720
And Ellen does the right thing
and just slaps the shit out of

551
00:31:29,720 –> 00:31:32,520
her.
Just smacks her right in the

552
00:31:32,520 –> 00:31:35,840
goddamn face and is like beat it
Lady Hitler.

553
00:31:37,040 –> 00:31:41,720
I like that part.
Josh gives a highly creepy and

554
00:31:41,720 –> 00:31:44,720
fascist speech at this
anniversary party.

555
00:31:44,760 –> 00:31:48,520
Forces the parents to dance to a
Tears For Fears song.

556
00:31:49,040 –> 00:31:50,560
Yeah, which is apparently their
song.

557
00:31:50,840 –> 00:31:55,320
Yeah, Dad had danced to it at
the anniversary party five years

558
00:31:55,400 –> 00:31:58,480
earlier, and no one’s in a
dancing mood.

559
00:31:58,720 –> 00:32:05,000
But by this point, this kid is
so powerful and so fucking drunk

560
00:32:05,120 –> 00:32:09,160
off that power, that kind of
just got to do what he says or

561
00:32:09,160 –> 00:32:11,960
he’ll send the Gestapo after
you.

562
00:32:12,080 –> 00:32:17,080
And then that’s when the
surprise clown shows up just out

563
00:32:17,080 –> 00:32:23,080
of nowhere from the backyard.
This clown just emerges and

564
00:32:23,080 –> 00:32:25,400
everyone’s like, what the fuck?
I mean, I guess it’s a party.

565
00:32:25,400 –> 00:32:28,200
Someone hired a clown.
Do you hear his little line?

566
00:32:28,200 –> 00:32:29,840
He goes.
I don’t know what this is, but I

567
00:32:29,840 –> 00:32:31,840
bet I’m paying for it.
Yeah, yeah.

568
00:32:31,920 –> 00:32:36,280
And immediately I was like,
that’s comedy daughter and she’s

569
00:32:36,280 –> 00:32:39,720
going to shoot Josh in the
fucking face. 50% right.

570
00:32:39,960 –> 00:32:42,720
It was comedy daughter, but she
was not there to shoot Josh in

571
00:32:42,720 –> 00:32:47,560
the face unfortunately, but she
does make her return.

572
00:32:47,720 –> 00:32:50,880
But also birdie, the youngest
daughter has escaped.

573
00:32:51,040 –> 00:32:55,160
No one knows where she is.
She’s left the house and she has

574
00:32:55,160 –> 00:32:58,840
left the house because she was
going to stage an attack on the

575
00:32:58,840 –> 00:33:02,560
Cumberland company.
Seems like she lets off a dirty

576
00:33:02,560 –> 00:33:06,080
bomb or something.
She gets it all on on very crisp

577
00:33:06,080 –> 00:33:07,520
video.
It’s great.

578
00:33:07,520 –> 00:33:11,360
There’s surveillance video.
Yeah, she just blows herself up

579
00:33:11,360 –> 00:33:14,640
in the lobby of the building and
it’s like, OK, it’s the lobby.

580
00:33:14,680 –> 00:33:17,280
I bet all the work stuff is on a
different floor.

581
00:33:17,280 –> 00:33:20,920
That’s probably still fine, just
fucked up the reception area.

582
00:33:20,920 –> 00:33:21,920
They’re.
Supposed to say you can get a

583
00:33:21,920 –> 00:33:24,760
new receptionist next week.
Yeah, yeah, they can just route

584
00:33:24,760 –> 00:33:27,040
people in through a different
door, probably.

585
00:33:27,160 –> 00:33:28,800
But cool.
I mean, cool it was.

586
00:33:29,040 –> 00:33:31,120
Neat to look more than I’ve ever
done to fight the power.

587
00:33:31,440 –> 00:33:34,920
Yeah, Oh yeah, 100%.
And so after that, after they

588
00:33:34,920 –> 00:33:38,080
realized the youngest daughter’s
dead, Anna comes out.

589
00:33:38,080 –> 00:33:40,080
Thank definitely not still
dressed as a clown.

590
00:33:40,080 –> 00:33:42,880
She got out of that makeup
really fucking fast.

591
00:33:43,040 –> 00:33:47,720
She comes out and Josh
immediately calls the state and

592
00:33:47,720 –> 00:33:51,560
rats on her is like my sister’s
here, come get her.

593
00:33:51,640 –> 00:33:55,960
And that is when one of the most
useless characters in this

594
00:33:55,960 –> 00:34:00,160
entire film, who we have not
talked about at all, which is

595
00:34:00,440 –> 00:34:02,960
depressed daughter, I guess you
would call her.

596
00:34:03,240 –> 00:34:07,080
Yeah.
She has a boyfriend, husband,

597
00:34:07,440 –> 00:34:10,960
husband, I think.
And their whole plot line is

598
00:34:11,360 –> 00:34:14,080
she’s pregnant, he thinks she’s
pregnant.

599
00:34:14,120 –> 00:34:18,400
She actually got an abortion.
And the whole time I’m like, but

600
00:34:18,400 –> 00:34:19,880
you can’t tell us about the
government.

601
00:34:20,880 –> 00:34:24,159
Yeah, but you have time to fill
us in on all of this.

602
00:34:24,320 –> 00:34:26,440
Have you ever seen the movie Den
of Thieves?

603
00:34:26,679 –> 00:34:29,719
I just watched this movie, I
totally forgot that was even

604
00:34:29,719 –> 00:34:32,560
happened.
That abortion scene, and it was

605
00:34:32,560 –> 00:34:34,159
so irrelevant to everything
that’s going on.

606
00:34:34,280 –> 00:34:35,639
No, I’ve never seen Den of
Thieves.

607
00:34:35,920 –> 00:34:40,679
Den of Thieves is a perfect
action movie except for the like

608
00:34:40,679 –> 00:34:46,080
15 or 20 minutes they spend on
Gerard Butler’s broken marriage.

609
00:34:46,159 –> 00:34:50,120
I don’t care about any of that.
Get me back to that fucking

610
00:34:50,120 –> 00:34:54,040
shootout on the LA freeway.
Every minute of that movie

611
00:34:54,040 –> 00:34:58,840
absolutely fucking rips except
the family drama and this movie.

612
00:34:58,880 –> 00:35:02,840
Whenever the pregnancy stuff
comes up, it’s like, God damn,

613
00:35:02,840 –> 00:35:06,200
there’s so much I don’t know
about this world that you are

614
00:35:06,200 –> 00:35:08,520
all living in.
I don’t know anything about this

615
00:35:08,520 –> 00:35:09,840
government.
I don’t even know what the

616
00:35:09,840 –> 00:35:12,800
governments called is the party
just called the change?

617
00:35:13,120 –> 00:35:14,880
Are we still the United States
of America?

618
00:35:15,000 –> 00:35:19,880
Yeah, can I get any details?
But we get this ladies fucking

619
00:35:20,280 –> 00:35:25,520
pregnancy drama and her only
redeeming moment comes after

620
00:35:25,760 –> 00:35:29,080
Josh calls and rats on comedy
sister.

621
00:35:29,160 –> 00:35:34,320
That’s when depressed abortion
sister walks in and just stabs

622
00:35:34,320 –> 00:35:38,680
Josh in the stomach, which is
satisfying.

623
00:35:38,680 –> 00:35:40,640
But I was also like, that
doesn’t look fatal.

624
00:35:40,720 –> 00:35:43,960
Either looks flesh woundy.
Yeah, but it turns out you want

625
00:35:43,960 –> 00:35:48,040
him to survive because the,
well, first depressed sister

626
00:35:48,040 –> 00:35:50,880
goes out and commits suicide by
fascist.

627
00:35:51,080 –> 00:35:53,560
The state pulls up with their
goons.

628
00:35:53,640 –> 00:35:55,800
She’s got the knife she just
stabbed Josh with.

629
00:35:55,880 –> 00:35:58,520
They’re like, put it down and
she like twitches her arm a

630
00:35:58,520 –> 00:36:00,720
little and they shoot her like
108 times.

631
00:36:00,800 –> 00:36:01,680
Very realistic.
I.

632
00:36:02,000 –> 00:36:03,720
Was supposed to say.
It’s literally supposed to say a

633
00:36:03,720 –> 00:36:06,240
very realistic scene.
Yeah, absolutely.

634
00:36:06,240 –> 00:36:10,880
As it would happen in real life.
And then because Josh has called

635
00:36:11,040 –> 00:36:15,680
and ratted on Anna, they show up
and just round up the entire

636
00:36:15,680 –> 00:36:17,440
family.
Actually, Anna gets away and

637
00:36:17,440 –> 00:36:21,440
just jumps into the ocean.
I don’t know if she lived or

638
00:36:21,720 –> 00:36:24,240
drowned or if she’s a fucking
mermaid now.

639
00:36:24,240 –> 00:36:27,160
Maybe she lives in the ocean
now, I don’t know.

640
00:36:27,240 –> 00:36:31,320
But she sort of gets away.
But Diane Lane and Kyle Chandler

641
00:36:31,320 –> 00:36:36,080
end up by the end of the movie
on their knees, white bagged, in

642
00:36:36,080 –> 00:36:38,440
this version of America.
Not black bagged.

643
00:36:38,440 –> 00:36:40,840
Yeah, not black bagged.
I bet you can sort of see

644
00:36:40,840 –> 00:36:43,240
through those white bags, which
would just make it worse.

645
00:36:43,520 –> 00:36:45,560
Yeah, I would rather be black
bagged.

646
00:36:45,560 –> 00:36:48,320
There’s a blurry outline of
everything I once loved.

647
00:36:48,560 –> 00:36:51,120
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
It’s a pretty rough ending.

648
00:36:51,320 –> 00:36:55,840
It’s an emotional moment because
they know it’s about to go down.

649
00:36:55,920 –> 00:36:59,040
Diane Lane is literally goes.
I’m scared.

650
00:36:59,200 –> 00:37:01,600
And to get white bagged on your
anniversary too is.

651
00:37:01,760 –> 00:37:06,000
Yeah, and to have what happened
because your piece of shit son

652
00:37:06,080 –> 00:37:09,720
called and ratted on your other
child.

653
00:37:09,920 –> 00:37:13,960
Dropped the dime on you.
But then that motherfucker, he

654
00:37:13,960 –> 00:37:18,800
gets his because he was
thinking, you know, much like

655
00:37:18,840 –> 00:37:21,680
Trump voters who were like, oh,
they’re just going to round up

656
00:37:21,680 –> 00:37:24,480
the bad ones.
This dipshit thought, oh, well,

657
00:37:24,480 –> 00:37:27,280
they’ll just come get my sister
and I’ll be able to talk the

658
00:37:27,280 –> 00:37:30,880
rest of my family out of this.
And he’s like, yeah, that’s my

659
00:37:30,880 –> 00:37:33,040
family in there.
I don’t want them.

660
00:37:33,360 –> 00:37:37,520
Not just my sister.
And these ice goons, basically

661
00:37:37,640 –> 00:37:40,640
this world’s version of ice are
like, are we going to have a

662
00:37:40,640 –> 00:37:43,320
problem, Sir?
And he’s like, do you know who I

663
00:37:43,320 –> 00:37:45,160
am?
And they just fucking knock that

664
00:37:45,160 –> 00:37:49,520
motherfucker over.
And that’s when Liz, his wife,

665
00:37:49,520 –> 00:37:53,680
his loving wife who wrote the
change, walks in and they’re

666
00:37:53,680 –> 00:37:55,720
like, ma’am, what do you want us
to do with him?

667
00:37:55,800 –> 00:37:59,000
And spoiler, she goes, take him
too.

668
00:37:59,120 –> 00:38:02,880
He’s with them.
Very satisfying ending.

669
00:38:02,960 –> 00:38:04,840
I should have mentioned we’re
going to spoil this whole

670
00:38:04,840 –> 00:38:06,920
goddamn movie.
I think people probably figured

671
00:38:06,920 –> 00:38:08,920
it out by now.
Yeah, it’s not a happy ending.

672
00:38:09,280 –> 00:38:12,760
I mean, that part is fun, but
it’s pretty bleak.

673
00:38:12,840 –> 00:38:16,120
Yeah, bittersweet at best.
Yeah, it’s a cautionary tale

674
00:38:16,120 –> 00:38:19,280
about fighting fascism doesn’t
always go the way you want it.

675
00:38:19,760 –> 00:38:22,920
To either in the movie or real
life or at the box office.

676
00:38:23,480 –> 00:38:25,680
Yeah.
In any version of reality.

677
00:38:26,080 –> 00:38:29,800
But I do help people watch this
when it’s on Hulu at least.

678
00:38:29,960 –> 00:38:33,480
It’s a good movie.
It has its flaws for sure.

679
00:38:33,520 –> 00:38:37,600
It again could have done a
little more world building and

680
00:38:37,680 –> 00:38:41,520
one less family member I think.
Yeah, one too many daughters.

681
00:38:41,560 –> 00:38:46,440
But yeah, watch the movie.
Do we have any final thoughts on

682
00:38:46,920 –> 00:38:50,920
anniversary you know?
Be a comedy daughter, not a Josh

683
00:38:51,240 –> 00:38:56,400
if you can in life.
Yeah, I would 100% support that

684
00:38:56,440 –> 00:39:00,960
I don’t think we can legally say
be a birdie yeah, but comedy

685
00:39:00,960 –> 00:39:05,320
daughter fight the power that
way for sure and yeah check this

686
00:39:05,320 –> 00:39:06,840
movie out.
I would recommend it.

687
00:39:06,960 –> 00:39:10,840
You could do a lot worse and I,
I think that is it.

688
00:39:10,880 –> 00:39:14,680
Connor, thank you so much for
doing the pod as always.

689
00:39:14,760 –> 00:39:18,200
I don’t want to jinx it and tell
people the episode we have

690
00:39:18,200 –> 00:39:20,640
coming up soon, but God damn
people.

691
00:39:20,840 –> 00:39:25,520
Not until it’s in the can.
Yeah, holy shit, it is the stuff

692
00:39:25,520 –> 00:39:29,480
dreams are made of.
Yeah, conspiracy of the dream

693
00:39:29,480 –> 00:39:32,600
come true.
Yeah, we we might just end it

694
00:39:32,600 –> 00:39:34,480
and start a new podcast after
that.

695
00:39:34,480 –> 00:39:37,040
I think like we’ve reached the
pinnacle, but you’ll see.

696
00:39:37,600 –> 00:39:41,200
It it’d be like if you know the
she was called Pizza the show

697
00:39:41,200 –> 00:39:45,040
and we had Papa John on.
Kind of, yeah.

698
00:39:45,120 –> 00:39:47,840
So be on the lookout for that,
Bolo.

699
00:39:47,840 –> 00:39:49,440
I don’t have anything to plug
right now.

700
00:39:49,440 –> 00:39:52,520
I’m still recovering.
I can barely work.

701
00:39:52,640 –> 00:39:53,760
Connor, what do you want to?
Plug.

702
00:39:53,840 –> 00:39:55,440
I don’t have anything to plug
either.

703
00:39:56,000 –> 00:39:59,240
Hell yeah, let’s get the fuck
out of here, Connor, say

704
00:39:59,240 –> 00:40:00,720
goodbye.
Goodbye everybody.

705
00:40:00,920 –> 00:40:01,920
Goodbye everybody, we love you.