Conspiracy! The Show The Space Shuttle Challenger Conspiracy

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Hey everybody, this is Adam host
of this podcast, don’t skip

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this, it’s not an ad.
Just dropping in to let you

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know.
This episode was initially

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recorded and released back in
February 2000. 19 as a

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subscriber, only episode, it is
a wild episode about a wild

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conspiracy specifically, the
conspiracy theory, that claims

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the astronauts who died on the
space shuttle Challenger, didn’t

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actually die.
Like I said, it’s a wild one.

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Connor is my co-host on this
one, and it also features

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special guests and the cell and
Connors former.

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And at the time, mean, boys,
podcast co-host Keith carry, so

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you won’t be shocked to learn
that.

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It’s a wild episode in that way,
to we’re releasing it now

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because the space shuttle
Challenger is back in the public

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Consciousness on account of a
new Netflix documentary about

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the tragedy, and it’s possible
causes rest.

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Though the documentary does not
touch on the crazy shit.

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We’re about to talk about here.
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Thanks, we love you, let’s get

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to the show.
Welcome to conspiracy the show

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with your host, added Todd Brown
and Connor mcspadden.

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Hey everybody, Welcome to
conspiracy the show.

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I’m Adam Todd Brown.
Hey, hey, what’s up?

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I’m Connor, that’s Connor
mcspadden.

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And we have a room full of
goddamn guest today.

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Keith carry from what
podcasting.

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That’d be mean, boy.
That’s right.

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Right, right.
Right.

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Yeah, it’s It’s weird seeing
Connor over here, with his

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secret family.
Like I forget, he does this

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show.
That is for sure, more popular

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than ours, so I brought my
butter half.

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Today, you’re gonna be cashing
out some decide fat jokes.

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You haven’t done yet?
Yeah, this is a whole new

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audience for burns on each
other.

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Oh, great.
Just revisit the classics.

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Yeah, man, I was reading the
iTunes reviews for the show the

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other day and goddamn, they’re
funny.

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Have you have you seen the
Madam?

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It’s just, I’ve seen some of
them.

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It’s just like yeah, this is one
smart guy and then there’s other

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guy just kind of interrupts him
to talk about pussy and I don’t

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know, I kind of am just here for
the conspiracy so that was a lot

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of podcasts on this network.
Yeah, whatever.

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I came for serious information
now, that’s comedy formatted

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thing.
It’s like, it’s like a football

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game II, do like the
play-by-play and then I need

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color commentary people to.
Yeah, well, no one occasionally,

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say something racist.
Yeah, I’m not a black guy with

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cancer.
I think, Mike’s my job,

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whatever.
Do whatever he was.

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He seems cool.
What’s that what you know, the

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black sports commentator with
cancer?

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That died recently?
He was like a beloved guy.

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Oh yeah, my ham is, what is his
name?

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I black, is what God is saying,
super black.

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I can say it.
He was the only color

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commentator I could think of and
it was not even a color in terms

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of he is in color.
Oh well, it’s like he adds like

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a colorful dialogue.
I can’t wait to check the

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itinerary iTunes reviews after
this, that’s Auntie sell High.

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Hi.
How’s it going up?

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By the way that you went to
Black for Connor and not cancer?

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What?
Well, he said, the plaid plaid

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on a black was funnier.
I just, I had to narrow it.

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I figured, I’d, I guess I
figured discussing NFL

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commentators him being black
would narrow it down,

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considerably sadly, I guess.
So that’s why I don’t know guys

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who fucking never mind.
How could anyone know?

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I’m really, really tired.
I’m doing my best.

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It’s probably, because we’re
recording at 10:00 in the

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morning.
Sure.

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Whose It was that?
Yeah, you know me at was it?

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Yeah, I have to leave, I gotta
go to Sacramento.

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Oh wow.
She’s what I always have to do

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in life.
So Connor kind of set this up

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for everyone because once we
scheduled this at 10 I was like

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I’ll just do the rest of them at
10 this week.

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Going to Sacramento.
Isn’t that just a euphemism?

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You tell a kid when their dog
dies.

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Yeah you went to Sacramento.
Hey went to Sacramento.

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He couldn’t make it to Oakland.
It’s just a it’s just a landfill

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of dead.
Dreams is what it is really

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tell.
Did it called together By rivers

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and drug use.
Hey Dad dreams are a good segue

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into what we’re talking about
today.

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Sure is, I would argue, I don’t
agree, we’re talking about the

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space shuttle Challenger, which
such good time Nations, dead

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dream.
Yeah, yeah, no tire.

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Did you watch this shit live?
I did not but only because I was

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in either fourth or fifth grade
when it happened.

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That’s right on the edge of.
Do you turn on the TV for the

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special news the way kind of
territory they were To have us

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all.
I don’t know how this worked

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out, but they were going to show
us all the launch throughout the

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day.
I think they were going to like,

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record it and then replay it.
Yeah.

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Because it happened.
That’s the thing.

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Is that, like a lot of people
have this false memory of

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watching this live when they
were in school, right?

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And it didn’t like, most people
are full of shit.

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When it comes to that, like they
think they saw it, but it’s like

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one of those false memory things
because it happens.

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So early in the morning that if
you were to Mandela effect kind

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of a thing.
Yeah, I think so.

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Yeah, I think so member when
Sinbad blew up in that Space

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shuttle?
Yeah, exactly.

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The space shuttle Kazaam died on
entry and I had one of those,

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but I feel like they wheeled in
a TV in one of those.

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You know, rolling AV racks,
right?

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And we watched it.
But I also think Troy McClure

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give you a play-by-play death of
a bunch of scientists.

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Well I remember for sure that I
was in class when it happened

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and they the principal, mr.
Haney’s bitch-ass mr.

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Haney, Mr. Noah please, mr.
Haney’s, bitch ass is my father

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mr.
Haney that’ll be Greg and they

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these bitches Heather name.
Doesn’t command any respect or

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strike fear now, mr.
Haney you bitch?

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Wait third-string quarterback.
Caleb hanie was your TS.

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Exactly.
Yeah, he used to he would do

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this thing constantly.
It was like a weird tick, he had

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where he would like, Bend at the
knees to like adjust his

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underwear.
Was he cartoon character from

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the 1920s.
I think I left.

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Sure he did it constantly like
he’s on one of those.

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Push them up and down the lever
rail cars kind of that’s one of

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your teacher.
If you’re a teacher you can’t

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get in there and root around or
you just but, you know, he might

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elicit a bunch of kids like just
well have been though, you know?

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And that brings me to a good
point today show is brought to

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you, by Tommy John, if you’re
tired of your underwear riding

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up or come on, girl, who works
there, oh, really?

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Yeah.
Whoo.

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Ted Tammy, Jane, it’s gonna be
the ladies Line damn fine work.

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Their moisture wicking fabric,
so you don’t have to Pads.

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It’s great technology.
Yeah, that’s what I’ve heard use

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promo code tinfoil for a 15%.
But yeah, I was in class and mr.

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Haney just came on the
loudspeaker and was like, Hey

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motherfuckers, the space shuttle
blew up and it like that.

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And I feel like they were
planning to show it to us in

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some way, like, maybe they were
going to record it.

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This was like dawn of the PCR
era.

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Maybe our school had that kind
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Probably not.
Yeah.

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But yeah, I definitely didn’t
see it live.

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Yeah.
I for some reason feel like I

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did but I also don’t think I
did.

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I remember like it being really
inappropriate that like every

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kid in my class when the news
came out with like fuck?

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Yeah, teacher died.
No sir.

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No similar to 911.
What was the show that you were

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mad about this?
Pre-empting one this happened?

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Because when I got home from
school and I turned on fucking

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Channel 5, I was already for
Yu-Gi-Oh and guess.

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It wasn’t happening, fucking, it
was all people.

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And I was like, I don’t know
what’s hit.

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I can’t contextualize this, just
let me learn morals from card

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games, you know, and that was
like three days.

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And then they didn’t even go
back to the episode of Yu-Gi-Oh

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in the, That was supposed to
follow.

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The one I’d seen on, you know,
Monday after the Tuesday, it was

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like 22 whole ones.
I didn’t get to see.

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So I no idea what the fuck was
going on.

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Connor, expand, the one true
victim of 9/11 I would say,

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well, look, if I would say, one
of The Unsung victims, I didn’t

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get any kind of settlement for
my If we agree for up the

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continuity of Yu-Gi-Oh, then the
terrorists have truly one.

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Absolutely.
Yeah.

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There wasn’t a show like that
for me because I was so young,

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be great.
If it was Thunderbirds.

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I was just way into this shuttle
launch happening.

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Yeah.
And when it blew up, I was just

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like, well, that was a weird
ending but I’m still gonna

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watch.
I do remember, like, like a lot

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of things that were affected by
Columbine and 9/11, that were

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like, you know, sort of
coincidental cultural items

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there was that episode of Family
Matters.

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We’re now this would have been
prevalent Oracle murders about

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you.
Ash, there was the other than

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sorry that episode of Webster
werewolf Center.

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Where Webster crash is a space
shuttle and feels bad about it.

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Right?
And do it building.

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Yeah, they had.
They were like whoops.

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And we’re like, that would never
happen.

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You’d avoid that building?
What about a black incest porn

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site called family mattress?
You know, I’ll just share a bed

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to did.
I do her.

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Yeah, you got it.
Dad, the delayed air horn.

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It’s the worst feeling in the
world.

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Always the bottle, white blow.
How you like that?

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I like that iTunes, that’s
scratching the itch there.

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Let’s listen to the Space.
Shuttle Challenger.

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Jesus Christ footage.
Why I mean, why wouldn’t we have

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it muted?
Normally three good deal.

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They’ll trigger the Apu City,
2257.

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Oh, get it over with already.
What is this a movie?

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There are several movies about
the space shuttle Challenger.

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So the 25th the government
varies among now on the way

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after more delays and NASA cares
to count.

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Now, Tom minty a, we’re not
going like that.

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He’s bitching about how many
delays are.

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When you see about to see why
there should have been a few

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more casket, related delays.
I like that.

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He jinxed it.
Like, like when in an NFL

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announcer is like this guy
hasn’t missed a field goal in 30

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tries, you know, It’s
straight-up.

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Looks like Wiley Coyote just
fucked up.

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It does.
Yeah, that initial explosion and

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then the path of the smoker.
It looks like a diagram of a

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uterus and fallopian.
Yeah.

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Exactly.
All right.

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So women women’s nice.
Nice.

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Little observation there
through.

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Whoa.
Mister woke sweater guy.

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Maybe those astronauts should
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macaroni cheap.
That’s a reference to heart

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shape pod Vanna Vanna.
And podcasts over up that I do

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with Andy.
Yeah, the the space shuttle

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Challenger.
What I think the saddest fact

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about that is that it broke
apart 73 seconds and not 69

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seconds.
Well that’s I mean, it’s true.

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You so close?
Yeah, so close.

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If it had just been a little bit
colder, for those gas, if it

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just 3 degrees, the fact that, I
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which we’ll get into.
Yeah, but the fact that the crew

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was mostly alive I’ve for the
explosion.

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Oh, yeah.
And it’s fucked up.

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We’re likely killed by the
impact when they hit the water,

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which is insane watching that
video, could that looks hella

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exploded.
And if you watch there is video

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out there of the crew cabin
falling and it is excruciating.

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Lee long.
Is it like when the in The

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Avengers when looks like,
Cloverfield Hulk out of the last

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prisoner?
You guys think about what you do

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in such a scenario often because
I think about it almost every

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night before I go to bed about
it all the time, my plan.

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Usually I’m like, well I guess I
take out the iPhone Notes.

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I try to tap out something to my
mother and then I sort of try to

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put it in the safest place I can
find so she could get to it.

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I guess your ass right now.
My ass is probably if I can get

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my phone in my ass so probably
sadly would be the best.

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Damn, that’s a good addition to
the plane down on the bed going.

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Okay, so I should start
practicing my phone as I love

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that because it’s gonna be
harder to get it up there than

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you think.
So you’re gonna die.

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All your marriage and a half.
Way up your a magic.

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It’ll be pretty.
I wasn’t picturing a walk.

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Getting a hard rectangle.
In my ass.

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I wasn’t like, oh boy cake,
you’re gonna die with it.

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Like halfway out, well, you got?
Yeah, it sort of said, is gonna

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be good and so exhale, get it
from the morgue.

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So it’s gonna jump on my stomach
and just pop it out.

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That’s what you need to.
Get an Apple Watch.

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Well, you know, send it to your
Apple watch.

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Roll it up.
Shove it up their Millennial.

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Christopher Walken.
I can’t fix it.

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Yeah.
Well, I want to make sure my mom

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knows I loved you before I die.
I’ll make a route around my dad

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anus.
So she’s not gonna know they’re

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gonna make her put a glove.
Ben invited.

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It’s what Carter would have one.
He’s your son.

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Keith is always a salty about my
mom privilege.

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So you’re all his bitterness
over there.

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I like my mom’s, never rooted
around in a butthole.

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We gotta find those truffles
somewhere.

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Oh my God, your mother’s right
sniffing dog.

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He just threw paper.
I honestly think it was really

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funny mature move for an audio
podcast.

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Termination the I sorry, not
sorry.

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Not Keith’s mother fisting him
but I’d say my asshole every

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time.
Every time I want to talk about

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a challenger now, they’re yes.
I think about that every time I

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want you to do.
If it starts going down, what if

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this just false?
I feel like I would do.

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I wouldn’t do anything because I
feel like that last message is

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just going to be more sad than
anything and they’re just going

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to keep it on their phone
forever, but wouldn’t you want

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that?
If you know, like, I don’t know,

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your someone, you liked died or
whatever.

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Like I love you Adam or
whatever.

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You know, some lame shit.
That I suppose you have my phone

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out and it’s probably in the
overhead and you put your phone

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in the overhead.
Sometimes, why what kind of sin

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should is that for?
What are you trying to be in the

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moment on the plane?
You fucking freak.

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No, I bring like that shit out.
Wait until you go into a low

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altitude Zone.
Send a couple texts like me and

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then yeah, you know, now I bring
a tablet and watch movies and

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shit.
No, that’s probably better.

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Yeah, but yeah, I don’t know
what I would do.

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I mean, if I was on the space
shuttle, I just be like this.

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Sucks.
It was 86 I can do anything.

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Do you think that fucked in
there?

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Probably.
Yeah.

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I mean these were there were at
least some sexual assault.

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We got to go over the background
information.

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I’d like to think that these are
these astronauts.

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They’re the best and brightest
that we have to offer and

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they’re so smart.
How come that thing when I was

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there there?
They didn’t build it?

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Yeah.
Well, they didn’t not blow it up

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either.
Tom say, Well they’re, they’re,

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you know, they’re, they’re
ethical people astronauts.

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So, I don’t feel.
I feel like it was not assault,

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but Out of just well, Mutual
Master.

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It was that me, it was too, it
was too late, moisten the most

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important gasket.
But I mean we’ve still got time

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for number two, talking about
the ask as has the number two

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gasket.
That’s it.

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That’s the ass gasket.
So this conspiracy theory just

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started circulating in 2015
which a new one.

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That’s yeah, that’s a long time
for it.

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That’s usually there’s at least
one bed, 1989 paperback book

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about it, you know.
Right.

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And they’re relatively new.
There are books about space

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shuttle Challenger conspiracies.
And we’ll talk about one at the

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end but they’re not as crazy as
this one.

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No, they’re far more plausible.
But the theory here is that at

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least six of the seven people
who were aboard.

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The space shuttle Challenger are
still alive, bro.

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Pom-Pom, and if you’re listening
to this, which you obviously

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are, if you just heard me say
that will have, the will have to

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put these Pictures up somewhere.
Yeah, that people listening can

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follow along, we’ll put them up
on the website on pops.com.

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Just check the homepage, they’ll
be there and there are people

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who look a lot like the space
shuttle Challenger crew out

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there in the world.
It’s right pretty goddamn

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clothes.
It is fun.

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Yeah it’s just close enough that
I can’t think it’s completely

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stupid but it’s pretty stupid.
Yeah.

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Andy I know a skeptical because
he inherently trust the

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government and everything I do.
I just like are you of the

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government?
You love the job so much.

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I’m so gay for the government
feel like I saw your

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doppelganger the other day like
it’s people look the so yeah,

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there’s like nine.
Nobody thinks about you.

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This is never happened.
Was the amount of insert fact,

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Kevin James, Jon, Favreau,
Jonah.

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But this is doppelgangers all
doing the exact same work in

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life.
Yeah, that’s the strange part.

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Is that they’re all have the
same kind of Hobbies and pursue.

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Yeah, which is sort of all sort
of taken the same career path

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and still I don’t know, I had a
guy come up to me once and start

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talking to me about a thing that
I had no idea what he was

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talking about and we got a full
five minutes into a conversation

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before.
He was like oh shit, you’re not

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who I thought you were like.
I was like I don’t know what

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you’re talking about man.
I don’t know who you are.

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I’ve never seen you before in my
life.

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You’re on the space.
Shuttle Challenger.

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Yeah and he was just like why
are you an astronaut then?

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Yeah, he was just one you guys.
Write each other science asses.

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Has a quick question.
Quit fucking with me, man.

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Just come floating in space.
I don’t know what its people, I

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don’t know.
I never got to go.

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I exploded on the way, really
tired of asking that, man.

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That’s the lamest part of the
following as they spend their

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whole life.
Being like, I’m gonna go to

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space and then you have to fall
against from space.

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Well, yeah, in a roundabout way
of Heavens really are.

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I mean, that’s, that’s why I
figure skating is my favorite

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Olympic sport.
He has got that people work

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their entire Lives for that
moment.

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And then your ankle just buckles
a little bit and you fucking

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wasted everything.
I love that so much.

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I love watching people’s lives.
Be rude.

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Yes, absolutely.
That’s why I like it.

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Yeah, that is a that is powerful
and just the idea of having to

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watch your whole life and in
front of your eyes while also

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wearing a sparkly to, right?
That’s a real gun.

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You have to read up and still be
happy.

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It’s real bouillon cube of
sadness that you enjoy their

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with it.
I love it.

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The agony of defeat so Richard.
Yeah.

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Well yeah.
Richard scobie.

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He was the commander of the
Space Shuttle Challenger.

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He was a pilot during Vietnam.
Awarded the flying cross for

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heroism during war.
They’ll just give that to

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anybody.
That’s what the article does,

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right?
The flying cross.

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Yeah, exactly.
And you can go out to his

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LinkedIn page.
If you Al come on LinkedIn or

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something wrestler named The
Flying, shake his finishing move

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was Iron Cross would be
problematic.

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I think my leg.
Alright, so now my finishing

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move.
I have to have the Catholic

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Centre party, authorize a
enabling act and then I can

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Annex your balls.
Bam.

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I take the championship belt and
have the Swiss hide it in a

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vault somewhere.
Yeah, this guy works for.

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He’s the CEO of a company called
something like cows in the

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cloud.
It’s called a full moon.

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Cows Fly advertising, its He’s
like lame-ass 1990s firm sort of

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names.
Yeah, I can’t get.

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Oh God and space.
Shuttles are are black and white

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and cows are black and white.
Whoa!

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Well and some of the people on
the crew were fat in the cloud.

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You go.
Oh, that’d be fun to do a cover.

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A one doves cry, but when cows
fly it’s about the challenge.

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You get there.
There is a.

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Is it in this article?
There is a really funny picture.

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This guy’s company, one of their
logos are one of the Images on

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their website.
Now, it’s not here.

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Where the fuck is it?
Is the Challenger exploding?

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No, it’s a picture of a cow
flying through the sky and

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there’s a plume of smoke coming
from behind it.

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That’s shaped like a six and
that happened with the space

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shuttle Challenger.
Oh, fuck.

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Man, the thing about it, you do,
there’s always some bad like

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with the pizza gate shit to.
There’s always some sort of

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accident.
That’s also a symbol for like,

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the devil and 16th century
England.

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Yeah, you know, the exact lies
into it, somehow, we had a Movie

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theater.
I worked out.

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We had one of those toy Grabber,
claw game machine.

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Yeah, called The Challenger.
And the how the, the top sign

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panel for it was a space shuttle
with a big claw coming out of

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it.
Oh, shit.

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When they came to I really wish,
I’d kept.

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I wanted to steal that sign
before they got rid of the

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machine and I didn’t know.
Yeah, that’s pretty fun.

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But anyway, yeah, we had a we
had an air hockey table called

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the Amistad.
I don’t know why they thought

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that was a good idea, but it was
there for like 15 years.

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Ontario.
This is the image that is on

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this company’s website cows in
trees.

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It’s called in this guy still
works there.

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You can pull up his LinkedIn
page name’s.

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Richard skopic.
What know who designed that?

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See ya?
What?

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No.
Fuck it.

435
00:21:28,200 –> 00:21:29,900
I believe in it.
Exactly whole thing.

436
00:21:29,900 –> 00:21:31,200
Yeah.
And it is a winner.

437
00:21:31,200 –> 00:21:33,300
What is it about like cheating
everybody?

438
00:21:33,300 –> 00:21:35,400
Where you just have to plant
closed?

439
00:21:35,500 –> 00:21:37,400
I know like what is this cool
football?

440
00:21:37,400 –> 00:21:39,700
Spike include like if I got if I
was d.b.

441
00:21:39,700 –> 00:21:42,800
Cooper I wouldn’t be taking the
doing a showing up in d.b.

442
00:21:42,800 –> 00:21:45,600
Cooper.
Look-alike contest making my own

443
00:21:45,600 –> 00:21:48,300
hot sauce and all this shit is
people do I think this guy

444
00:21:48,300 –> 00:21:50,700
definitely isn’t from the
Challenger but he started the

445
00:21:50,700 –> 00:21:52,900
conspiracy just to drive traffic
to his thumb.

446
00:21:52,900 –> 00:21:55,500
Shitty LinkedIn page.
That could be, that’d be a good

447
00:21:55,500 –> 00:21:56,300
move.
Yeah.

448
00:21:56,500 –> 00:22:00,500
But they do look alike.
They do the Richard scobie, who

449
00:22:00,500 –> 00:22:04,000
was on the Challenger and this
Richard Scobee they both have

450
00:22:04,000 –> 00:22:05,700
weird like sleepy.
Steve Buscemi.

451
00:22:05,700 –> 00:22:09,200
Yeah, she better like really far
apart, exactly.

452
00:22:09,200 –> 00:22:10,400
I’m gonna level with you,
listeners.

453
00:22:10,400 –> 00:22:14,300
They both look exactly the same.
Don’t the nose.

454
00:22:14,300 –> 00:22:15,700
Come on.
There’s a letter.

455
00:22:15,700 –> 00:22:16,400
No.
Yeah.

456
00:22:16,400 –> 00:22:18,900
The ears are the two parts of
your body that never stop

457
00:22:18,900 –> 00:22:19,600
growing.
Yeah.

458
00:22:19,600 –> 00:22:21,600
Then terms of growing and
they’re also the easiest to

459
00:22:21,600 –> 00:22:24,600
change with plastic surgery.
So you haven’t heard about my

460
00:22:24,600 –> 00:22:28,000
dick.
I don’t know why I’m not happy.

461
00:22:28,100 –> 00:22:30,200
Tell me about those things.
Now you’re thinking about him.

462
00:22:30,200 –> 00:22:34,300
Yeah, let’s hear about the
choke.

463
00:22:34,300 –> 00:22:36,300
Didn’t really go with your
sweater there, Randy?

464
00:22:38,400 –> 00:22:40,000
Look, I’m trying a lot of new
things.

465
00:22:42,100 –> 00:22:43,800
Do year new me.
New dick.

466
00:22:44,600 –> 00:22:46,800
It’s not impressive.
That’s really all one thought it

467
00:22:46,800 –> 00:22:48,500
was.
But yeah, no one even was

468
00:22:48,500 –> 00:22:51,100
thinking about is I bet assumed
its solid five.

469
00:22:51,300 –> 00:22:54,600
There are pictures of this guy
on the website where he doesn’t

470
00:22:54,600 –> 00:22:57,600
look the same, but you have to
keep in mind everyone.

471
00:22:57,600 –> 00:23:01,600
Throughout history has seen one
or two pictures of the astronaut

472
00:23:01,600 –> 00:23:04,000
Richard scobie.
He looks like Anthony Hopkins.

473
00:23:04,100 –> 00:23:07,300
He does look like Anthony
Hopkins there a little bit but

474
00:23:07,700 –> 00:23:10,400
yeah, you can go out and look at
his LinkedIn page.

475
00:23:10,400 –> 00:23:14,300
Will put links up on the Say so
you can see all this shit.

476
00:23:15,300 –> 00:23:19,000
The next person living with a
doppelganger out there, Michael

477
00:23:19,000 –> 00:23:23,000
Jay Smith, he was a pilot also.
A pilot in Vietnam logged,

478
00:23:23,000 –> 00:23:27,400
467,000 flight hours before
joining NASA.

479
00:23:27,500 –> 00:23:31,600
That’s fucking Michael Smith.
Yeah, see this again.

480
00:23:31,600 –> 00:23:33,700
I don’t see it.
The eyes look different.

481
00:23:33,900 –> 00:23:37,000
I don’t know they don’t they
don’t they look exactly the

482
00:23:37,000 –> 00:23:39,200
same.
They look like he’s got the same

483
00:23:39,200 –> 00:23:43,700
shaped like we looks like he’s
got the bad big teeth.

484
00:23:43,800 –> 00:23:47,300
He looks like Pete, Carroll.
Yes, yeah, well no man.

485
00:23:47,400 –> 00:23:49,500
He looks like an older version
of this guy.

486
00:23:49,500 –> 00:23:51,800
Well, he looks like he’s about
to chase his fat husband around

487
00:23:51,800 –> 00:23:55,100
with a rolling pin, right, but
he looks exactly like the

488
00:23:55,108 –> 00:23:58,300
fucking quote, unquote dead.
Dude, on the left, man.

489
00:23:58,300 –> 00:23:59,900
The guy, the version of on the
right.

490
00:23:59,900 –> 00:24:02,500
Looks like the pastor of every
mega churches had to have like

491
00:24:02,500 –> 00:24:02,900
a.
Whoops.

492
00:24:02,900 –> 00:24:06,700
I’m gay except in the 70s.
Yeah, it was.

493
00:24:06,700 –> 00:24:09,200
Whoops, I touch kids.
Yeah, whoops.

494
00:24:09,200 –> 00:24:13,100
I, you know, blew up, Honey.
I Blew Up The me.

495
00:24:15,000 –> 00:24:20,500
Honey, I Shrunk the number of
parents, the kids have Right.

496
00:24:21,400 –> 00:24:25,200
One of the other interesting
things about these to the real,

497
00:24:25,200 –> 00:24:29,500
Michael Smith is now a professor
emeritus of engineering at UW,

498
00:24:29,500 –> 00:24:33,100
Wisconsin, the Michael Smith who
was on the space shuttle

499
00:24:33,100 –> 00:24:38,900
Challenger had a master’s degree
in engineering and was involved

500
00:24:38,900 –> 00:24:44,800
in all of the same fields and
both were born in 1945 and they

501
00:24:44,800 –> 00:24:48,500
both have the exact same names
and they were both on the space

502
00:24:48,500 –> 00:24:49,400
shuttle Challenger.
Challenger.

503
00:24:49,500 –> 00:24:51,300
Yeah, because they’re both the
same guy.

504
00:24:51,400 –> 00:24:53,100
Yeah, sheeple.
What is so?

505
00:24:53,100 –> 00:24:55,100
What is the idea behind this
Theory?

506
00:24:55,100 –> 00:24:58,400
Exact, like why did they?
That’s one of the problems with

507
00:24:58,400 –> 00:25:01,100
this theory is no one can
explain that part.

508
00:25:01,100 –> 00:25:03,300
Yeah, yeah.
There’s no, like, what’s up to

509
00:25:03,300 –> 00:25:04,300
something?
Yeah.

510
00:25:04,300 –> 00:25:07,000
It’s like I just feel like if
your thing exploded, why keep

511
00:25:07,000 –> 00:25:09,400
them alive?
But secretly like why not be

512
00:25:09,400 –> 00:25:13,100
like we saved the astronauts.
So cool secret if they don’t

513
00:25:13,100 –> 00:25:15,300
change their goddamn names.
Yeah.

514
00:25:15,300 –> 00:25:16,600
Couple of them.
Do yeah.

515
00:25:16,600 –> 00:25:18,800
Their first name.
They translation we goo

516
00:25:19,000 –> 00:25:21,200
Everybody with the name.
And there’s no way look like

517
00:25:21,200 –> 00:25:23,200
you’re still the same.
So like, I just don’t

518
00:25:23,200 –> 00:25:26,600
understand.
Like why did Elvis pick died on

519
00:25:26,600 –> 00:25:28,900
the toilet for his fake?
Death story will never know

520
00:25:28,900 –> 00:25:31,000
Andy.
Yeah, some questions just can’t

521
00:25:31,000 –> 00:25:33,500
be answered because the king had
to Humble himself to live

522
00:25:33,500 –> 00:25:36,600
forever and it was Elvis died on
the challenge but at least all

523
00:25:36,600 –> 00:25:38,400
this.
That’s why he’s called the

524
00:25:38,400 –> 00:25:42,200
toilet Elvis.
Didn’t then go to like a music

525
00:25:42,200 –> 00:25:46,600
open mic and say I’m Elvis
Presley, not the Elvis Presley,

526
00:25:46,600 –> 00:25:50,400
very actually story of him.
Doing that in Argentina at one

527
00:25:50,400 –> 00:25:51,100
point.
Yeah.

528
00:25:51,100 –> 00:25:54,000
Most of your weight elements are
the South America would like

529
00:25:54,000 –> 00:25:58,800
mangala like karate trap drug
lords for the rest of his life

530
00:25:58,800 –> 00:26:01,400
are Jamie and Adams, where they
will chop, that’s where they

531
00:26:01,400 –> 00:26:04,100
hide Nazi war criminals.
It’s safe to go down there and

532
00:26:04,100 –> 00:26:06,300
use the same name.
Well, the government uses it as

533
00:26:06,300 –> 00:26:08,500
a place to send people.
That’s, like, the that’s like,

534
00:26:08,500 –> 00:26:09,900
America’s crawls to learn how to
do.

535
00:26:09,908 –> 00:26:13,600
You know, why?
Because your auntie never, you

536
00:26:13,600 –> 00:26:15,200
know, I chose.
Yeah.

537
00:26:15,200 –> 00:26:18,800
But are you again?
You’re the kind of bloggers eat.

538
00:26:19,000 –> 00:26:21,400
If that would be all up in arms
about this sort of thing and if

539
00:26:21,400 –> 00:26:23,900
you’re not really considering
Argentina all day seems like a

540
00:26:23,900 –> 00:26:28,000
pretty good place to put your
Nazis to this podcast host and

541
00:26:28,000 –> 00:26:30,500
can we move on?
Indy, I’m trying to prove that

542
00:26:30,500 –> 00:26:35,600
this guy is also this guy.
Oh man, this one, I don’t see.

543
00:26:35,600 –> 00:26:38,700
This one is just you don’t see
no, like your sweat feel like

544
00:26:38,700 –> 00:26:40,400
you’re being a little too
sensitive.

545
00:26:41,200 –> 00:26:43,700
You see.
This is the simbad fucking.

546
00:26:43,700 –> 00:26:46,700
There’s an African-American Jan
and these are this is the

547
00:26:46,700 –> 00:26:49,100
stickier one to discuss.
First of all, the Guy on the

548
00:26:49,100 –> 00:26:50,000
right.
Looks like a thick neck.

549
00:26:50,000 –> 00:26:52,300
Lando Calrissian.
We need to just accept that.

550
00:26:52,300 –> 00:26:55,100
Yeah, it was a little bitty guy
on the left has a collar on, so

551
00:26:55,100 –> 00:26:58,200
you can see it’s a little like
Harrison page from Sledgehammer.

552
00:26:58,300 –> 00:27:00,300
Okay.
Well, and, and what’s funny

553
00:27:00,300 –> 00:27:03,300
about you saying, I don’t see
the resemblance, hear the

554
00:27:03,300 –> 00:27:06,000
explanation for this one.
That’s his twin brother.

555
00:27:06,200 –> 00:27:10,300
So they probably look a little,
that’s like an extra.

556
00:27:10,300 –> 00:27:11,800
It is that actually has one
brother.

557
00:27:12,100 –> 00:27:15,700
That’s, that’s what when it
comes to this guy who which is

558
00:27:16,100 –> 00:27:20,200
Ronald McNair Mission specialist
and Ella And onizuka also

559
00:27:20,200 –> 00:27:22,700
Michelin Mission.
Special Michelin Chef.

560
00:27:22,700 –> 00:27:24,300
Yeah.
He’s got a Michelin star.

561
00:27:25,400 –> 00:27:30,100
They the argument here is that
well, this is Carl McNair, which

562
00:27:30,100 –> 00:27:35,000
is Ronald McNair’s twin brother
so they do look alike Andy.

563
00:27:35,000 –> 00:27:37,300
I don’t I don’t see that on
these, on the way, but so the

564
00:27:37,300 –> 00:27:41,000
twin brother thing is, is re is
no there’s no there’s no proof

565
00:27:41,000 –> 00:27:42,400
of it.
So basically they just put two

566
00:27:42,400 –> 00:27:44,000
pictures of black guys next to
each other.

567
00:27:44,000 –> 00:27:46,900
Like I let me blow your mind.
Well well that I like the idea

568
00:27:46,900 –> 00:27:49,300
that this Theory started with
him not being able Able to tell

569
00:27:49,300 –> 00:27:51,800
these two Asian guys apart then
he’s like, well, I do everybody.

570
00:27:51,800 –> 00:27:55,400
It’s not racist.
Oh yeah, he just got in what you

571
00:27:55,400 –> 00:27:58,200
trouble one time at a cocktail
party and now he’s like no means

572
00:27:58,200 –> 00:28:00,400
I’ve got thousands of people
believe it’s like sunshine

573
00:28:00,400 –> 00:28:02,000
fealty and thing.
We’re to prove, he’s not a

574
00:28:02,008 –> 00:28:03,600
racist.
He has to start believing the

575
00:28:03,600 –> 00:28:05,800
Challenger was an inside job.
Yes.

576
00:28:05,800 –> 00:28:09,300
So you any walks with a cane for
six months at his job because he

577
00:28:09,400 –> 00:28:11,900
lied.
So you Andy don’t believe these

578
00:28:11,900 –> 00:28:14,200
two have twin brothers.
I don’t mean.

579
00:28:14,300 –> 00:28:17,400
Okay, these these two guys
actually I can see because this

580
00:28:17,400 –> 00:28:19,900
guy, well, okay.
Like the crow’s feet are.

581
00:28:19,900 –> 00:28:21,800
Yeah, because that’s still
acceptable.

582
00:28:21,800 –> 00:28:25,200
What note goddamn picture.
I’m not just being

583
00:28:25,200 –> 00:28:27,700
performativity woke.
It’s great.

584
00:28:27,700 –> 00:28:28,400
How are you?
It’s great.

585
00:28:28,400 –> 00:28:30,100
Hearing your voice.
Crack throughout this entire

586
00:28:30,100 –> 00:28:32,600
explanation.
Look at his teeth and his mouth

587
00:28:32,600 –> 00:28:36,500
very different.
Nobody’s teeth looked any

588
00:28:36,500 –> 00:28:39,000
different over time.
Shane macgowan is teeth.

589
00:28:39,000 –> 00:28:41,200
Yeah, exactly.
The same as they were in 1970.

590
00:28:41,200 –> 00:28:44,600
You guys were literally studying
the skull shape of Blackbeard’s

591
00:28:44,600 –> 00:28:46,700
right now.
We are half a step for full-on.

592
00:28:46,700 –> 00:28:48,700
Yeah, Eugenics, we gotta get the
fuck out of here.

593
00:28:48,800 –> 00:28:50,800
Here.
But yeah, the argument in both

594
00:28:50,800 –> 00:28:55,100
of these cases is that, these
are these men’s twin brothers,

595
00:28:55,200 –> 00:28:58,400
Carl McNair, who you can also go
to his, why would that even be a

596
00:28:58,400 –> 00:29:01,200
conspiracy?
Well, that’s the conspiracy

597
00:29:01,200 –> 00:29:03,700
theorist side there, is that?
No, they’re not.

598
00:29:03,700 –> 00:29:05,800
That’s just, that’s just
actually them.

599
00:29:05,800 –> 00:29:08,600
And they’re lying about the fact
that they have twins.

600
00:29:08,700 –> 00:29:11,100
Oh, so it actually is the real
liking.

601
00:29:11,100 –> 00:29:16,700
It is in the theory in this
person, Carl McNair exists, if

602
00:29:16,700 –> 00:29:19,200
car near I asked probably there
are you this guy’s Yes.

603
00:29:19,200 –> 00:29:22,200
Oh yes, that’s what I dry.
Hair goes around the country.

604
00:29:22,200 –> 00:29:25,700
Giving lectures about his
brothers, experience from

605
00:29:25,700 –> 00:29:30,400
dispense, okay Manuel.
So it’s actually is a twin

606
00:29:30,400 –> 00:29:33,700
identical twin brother, right?
All right, but I still don’t see

607
00:29:33,700 –> 00:29:36,800
it.
I think the conspiracy has

608
00:29:38,000 –> 00:29:41,400
standing, he’s lying about that
guy being his twin brother to

609
00:29:41,400 –> 00:29:43,400
cover up something else.
Hello there?

610
00:29:43,400 –> 00:29:47,900
Why children you don’t know?
There’s a Aquaman virtue

611
00:29:47,900 –> 00:29:52,800
signaling.
I honestly don’t see it.

612
00:29:52,900 –> 00:29:55,700
That rules so hard.
That’s pretty funny.

613
00:29:55,700 –> 00:30:01,500
And if you kind of got owned
here, tap is everybody man.

614
00:30:01,800 –> 00:30:04,900
The bird is spoken owned.
Bird flying through the sky.

615
00:30:05,000 –> 00:30:08,900
Yep, there is a website will
link to it along with all of

616
00:30:08,900 –> 00:30:11,000
these pictures they have a bit
is upsetting given that it’s

617
00:30:11,000 –> 00:30:18,100
under the Asian guy, it’s called
Big i.com and someone on in this

618
00:30:18,100 –> 00:30:21,400
Exodus of monsters in Fan pages
weird.

619
00:30:21,600 –> 00:30:26,500
They claim to have checked
genealogy websites for proof of

620
00:30:26,500 –> 00:30:29,200
either of these twin brothers
and could not find any.

621
00:30:29,200 –> 00:30:31,900
So see.
Well then that just means

622
00:30:31,900 –> 00:30:35,600
they’re still alive.
Yeah, that’s on Odie.

623
00:30:35,600 –> 00:30:38,500
I don’t I don’t know how much
did genealogy websites work.

624
00:30:38,500 –> 00:30:40,500
They’re probably all full of
misinformation.

625
00:30:40,700 –> 00:30:42,200
I want to skip around a little
bit.

626
00:30:42,200 –> 00:30:45,400
We’ll talk about Judith Resnik
last because she’s the most

627
00:30:45,400 –> 00:30:48,900
interesting, the to that people
have the most trouble with when

628
00:30:48,900 –> 00:30:52,100
trying to Present this Theory.
One is Greg Jarvis.

629
00:30:52,400 –> 00:30:54,700
There’s no one out there.
Looking like Greg Jarvis right

630
00:30:54,700 –> 00:30:56,900
now.
No one can find a doppelganger.

631
00:30:57,000 –> 00:31:00,100
Greg Jarvis just died.
So of course the conspiracy

632
00:31:00,100 –> 00:31:02,900
theory there is, well, he was
actually on there and he was

633
00:31:02,900 –> 00:31:05,100
like disposable.
Yeah, there’s always an answer

634
00:31:05,100 –> 00:31:08,200
because he’s got the weakest
background among everyone like

635
00:31:08,200 –> 00:31:10,700
all these other people had
really like went to really

636
00:31:10,700 –> 00:31:15,300
prestigious colleges and he went
to, like, he went to like ICC

637
00:31:15,300 –> 00:31:17,600
which was Illinois Central
College where I went for a

638
00:31:17,608 –> 00:31:20,100
semester.
The first DeVry Graduate to go

639
00:31:20,100 –> 00:31:22,700
into space.
Exactly.

640
00:31:22,800 –> 00:31:26,600
And yeah, well where the needle?
Where that they look needed.

641
00:31:26,600 –> 00:31:29,300
A licensed massage therapist on
the challenge.

642
00:31:29,300 –> 00:31:31,600
Hey, these martians need someone
to do their medical coding and

643
00:31:31,600 –> 00:31:35,400
billing.
Yes, guy, he has a vape repair

644
00:31:35,400 –> 00:31:40,100
certificate, I guess is good for
the exhaust.

645
00:31:40,100 –> 00:31:42,300
I mean, I mean 12 more hours of
my apprenticeship before I can

646
00:31:42,300 –> 00:31:45,800
go pro.
But yeah, but can you initial

647
00:31:45,800 –> 00:31:49,200
this form, there’s there’s
nothing really out.

648
00:31:49,400 –> 00:31:51,300
There.
That would indicate that Greg

649
00:31:51,300 –> 00:31:56,100
Jarvis is still alive.
So NASA killed him and kind of

650
00:31:56,100 –> 00:31:59,200
the same thing with Christa
McAuliffe, who is the most

651
00:31:59,200 –> 00:32:02,000
famous member the teacher.
Yeah, she was the one who got

652
00:32:02,000 –> 00:32:04,200
everyone excited about this.
Yeah.

653
00:32:04,300 –> 00:32:06,600
And she’ll come, we’ll talk a
little bit about the Reagan

654
00:32:06,600 –> 00:32:09,400
theory in a second and she comes
up in that.

655
00:32:09,500 –> 00:32:13,100
But the picture of her that
doesn’t look like her at all.

656
00:32:13,500 –> 00:32:16,700
No, not really had Andy say, it
looks just like it could be, but

657
00:32:16,700 –> 00:32:19,700
I mean, it’s not that close
those look like to Different

658
00:32:19,700 –> 00:32:24,500
duties.
All right, the one on the left

659
00:32:24,500 –> 00:32:27,300
looks like somebody from Winger
like, it’s a rough lucky.

660
00:32:27,300 –> 00:32:30,300
Yeah.
And those eyes are so different.

661
00:32:30,300 –> 00:32:32,500
Yeah, I don’t know, I don’t
know, a shark could get a perm.

662
00:32:33,200 –> 00:32:36,000
Why did they let a plot device
from t.j. hooker on the space

663
00:32:36,000 –> 00:32:38,300
shuttle?
Yeah, the one on the right is

664
00:32:38,300 –> 00:32:40,900
aggressively a different person.
Yeah, the one on the right is

665
00:32:40,900 –> 00:32:44,300
Sharon McAuliffe, who is a?
She looks like a Republican

666
00:32:44,300 –> 00:32:45,300
senator.
Oh fuck.

667
00:32:45,300 –> 00:32:46,700
Yeah.
Well she’s a professor from

668
00:32:46,700 –> 00:32:48,900
Syracuse which is Upstate New
York.

669
00:32:48,900 –> 00:32:54,900
So I’ll certainly Republican,
but she I don’t think looks like

670
00:32:54,900 –> 00:32:57,100
Christa McAuliffe.
The one of the arguments here is

671
00:32:57,100 –> 00:32:59,500
that Christa McAuliffe sexual
birth name was Sharon.

672
00:32:59,600 –> 00:33:04,800
So people okay use that and
people also argue.

673
00:33:04,800 –> 00:33:08,700
Well, she was the second least
valuable person on that mission.

674
00:33:08,800 –> 00:33:10,600
Oh my God.
So if anyone was going to be in

675
00:33:10,600 –> 00:33:14,000
the actually in there to blow up
I gotta be willing to entertain

676
00:33:14,000 –> 00:33:16,100
this theory if there was a
theory but it’s really there’s

677
00:33:16,100 –> 00:33:18,400
no right?
There’s no I do like the idea of

678
00:33:18,400 –> 00:33:21,200
those to get Hang on.
And then the door just shuts

679
00:33:21,200 –> 00:33:23,000
behind them and they’re like,
what the fuck?

680
00:33:23,000 –> 00:33:25,300
And they just everybody else on.
The courage has beaten the pipe

681
00:33:25,300 –> 00:33:28,200
against and TV at Shea.
They’re gonna kill him.

682
00:33:28,200 –> 00:33:31,800
Warriors smile, a monitor comes
on, at the control panel are all

683
00:33:31,800 –> 00:33:35,200
on their phone, on a tricycle,
on their phones, which they had

684
00:33:35,200 –> 00:33:38,700
186 because they’re in NASA.
I may have cracked this wide

685
00:33:38,700 –> 00:33:41,100
open, you know, who had a pretty
big vested interest in the

686
00:33:41,100 –> 00:33:44,500
Challenger exploding.
The memorial coin industry.

687
00:33:46,200 –> 00:33:47,900
That’s a high-end a big coin
pull.

688
00:33:47,900 –> 00:33:49,100
Yeah.
Thanks again.

689
00:33:49,700 –> 00:33:52,600
They’re all they’re making all
these, you know, commemorative

690
00:33:52,600 –> 00:33:55,400
proofs.
So you got to make it, you can’t

691
00:33:55,400 –> 00:33:58,300
just commemorate a proof of
anything, you got to have a

692
00:33:58,300 –> 00:34:01,500
explosion or a some sort of
battling is just the tip of the

693
00:34:01,500 –> 00:34:03,600
iceberg.
Those folks have their tentacles

694
00:34:03,600 –> 00:34:05,900
and everything.
There’s the little pewter Bells.

695
00:34:06,200 –> 00:34:09,300
There’s the ceramic plates.
Yeah exactly.

696
00:34:09,800 –> 00:34:13,699
And since we’d there’s ever the
cut the world is to nuclearized

697
00:34:13,699 –> 00:34:16,900
for invasions and Coos is like
the good old days.

698
00:34:17,100 –> 00:34:19,100
We gotta blow up like science
shit.

699
00:34:19,300 –> 00:34:21,300
Now, right?
Right to keep the fucking to

700
00:34:21,308 –> 00:34:23,699
keep the plates.
Ovince to keep the stamps

701
00:34:23,699 –> 00:34:26,300
flowing dolls.
That’s the little, like house

702
00:34:26,300 –> 00:34:27,800
things.
Like, remember those.

703
00:34:27,800 –> 00:34:30,500
Oh yeah, I remember I remember.
I had the whole set of dead

704
00:34:30,500 –> 00:34:33,800
Challenger crew member being a
baby and I knew they were going

705
00:34:33,800 –> 00:34:36,400
to be worth something, but my
fucking mom, threw them away.

706
00:34:36,500 –> 00:34:38,199
You gotta buy each one because
it comes with a piece of the

707
00:34:38,199 –> 00:34:39,600
challenge when you put them all
together.

708
00:34:39,600 –> 00:34:41,699
Like.
Yeah, I like Like An Inspector

709
00:34:41,699 –> 00:34:45,300
Gadget toy from McDonald’s.
Yeah, I like the Lego set go

710
00:34:45,300 –> 00:34:48,600
gasps chlaka boom fit together.
Oh yeah, yeah.

711
00:34:49,300 –> 00:34:50,900
The other right there?
Looks like Alan Alda.

712
00:34:51,000 –> 00:34:55,300
That’s right, that’s true.
Let’s talk about Judith Resnik

713
00:34:55,300 –> 00:34:58,700
though.
I think she is among at least

714
00:34:58,700 –> 00:35:02,700
among the the similarities I
think hers is the craziest.

715
00:35:02,700 –> 00:35:06,700
Yeah, lot of parallels.
She worked at RCA as a design

716
00:35:06,700 –> 00:35:10,800
engineer in contracted with NASA
on several projects before

717
00:35:10,800 –> 00:35:12,300
joining the space shuttle
mission.

718
00:35:12,500 –> 00:35:17,100
And you can find her today as a
professor at Yale University.

719
00:35:17,400 –> 00:35:19,800
The Arthur Lyman professor Of
law.

720
00:35:19,800 –> 00:35:22,200
That looks like both White
Stripes ran at each other really

721
00:35:22,200 –> 00:35:27,800
looks nice.
Even Johnny Depp in transparent

722
00:35:27,800 –> 00:35:30,200
to.
She looks like a ghost in a

723
00:35:30,207 –> 00:35:32,200
Conjuring sequel.
Assistant.

724
00:35:32,200 –> 00:35:36,500
Principal Sweeney Todd.
Yes, he’s here is awesome.

725
00:35:37,500 –> 00:35:39,600
Do you think she ever calls up
the guy?

726
00:35:39,600 –> 00:35:43,600
That’s a professor at Wisconsin
and is just like they put me at

727
00:35:43,600 –> 00:35:47,200
Yale, we did it, buddy.
Probably lizard.

728
00:35:47,200 –> 00:35:49,000
People got me into Yale, didn’t
even.

729
00:35:49,300 –> 00:35:50,900
Change my name.
I wonder if they’re ever going

730
00:35:50,900 –> 00:35:53,900
to look at Carlos, the Big Ten
doing there, we go to a

731
00:35:53,908 –> 00:35:55,800
conference together.
And look, you want to carpool

732
00:35:55,800 –> 00:35:58,900
and say, actually, maybe we
shouldn’t carpool, maybe of all

733
00:35:58,900 –> 00:36:01,600
the people, the car pull us.
Specifically could be bad.

734
00:36:01,600 –> 00:36:04,500
Maybe the two of us should never
get into a vehicle together.

735
00:36:04,700 –> 00:36:07,400
Last time we tried something
like that.

736
00:36:08,100 –> 00:36:12,000
He had to lay low for 20 years.
So the, the side-by-side

737
00:36:12,000 –> 00:36:16,500
pictures of her, I think are
really interesting, especially

738
00:36:16,500 –> 00:36:18,800
this one where her mouth curls
up.

739
00:36:18,800 –> 00:36:20,900
The Zack.
Same way as didn’t have the

740
00:36:20,900 –> 00:36:24,900
video where she blinks her
second set of eyelids, I’m

741
00:36:24,900 –> 00:36:27,400
sorry, these two white people
look alike in.

742
00:36:29,500 –> 00:36:31,600
In some of the pictures.
I see it in this one idea, and

743
00:36:31,600 –> 00:36:33,600
this one, she’s holding the pen
in one picture.

744
00:36:33,600 –> 00:36:36,000
The other picture, no pain.
How do you explain that third,

745
00:36:36,000 –> 00:36:38,800
the last one with the mouth
curls, they’ll is very serious

746
00:36:38,800 –> 00:36:40,600
and the way her mouth is open in
this picture.

747
00:36:40,600 –> 00:36:43,900
This one is dramatically
different lighting, so she’s

748
00:36:43,900 –> 00:36:46,800
gonna look not exactly the same
because the lights going to be

749
00:36:46,800 –> 00:36:48,700
hitting her face.
She’s in a really bright

750
00:36:48,700 –> 00:36:50,500
courtroom.
We just, she actually never

751
00:36:50,500 –> 00:36:54,600
allows anyone to take photos of
her from that same angle anymore

752
00:36:54,600 –> 00:36:56,200
like that.
She’s a team of security that

753
00:36:56,200 –> 00:36:57,900
follow her at smart.
She’s like strike.

754
00:36:58,000 –> 00:36:59,000
His hands.
You know?

755
00:36:59,000 –> 00:37:01,300
She has a good side.
That’s how you avoid, end up

756
00:37:01,300 –> 00:37:04,200
ending up on podcast brushes.
Did you guys know that?

757
00:37:04,200 –> 00:37:06,100
But the stripes and does that,
we’re, she’s like what she does

758
00:37:06,100 –> 00:37:07,700
a late-night show.
She makes them turn the whole

759
00:37:07,700 –> 00:37:09,300
set.
The other direction for her good

760
00:37:09,300 –> 00:37:10,700
side to be.
I don’t know.

761
00:37:10,700 –> 00:37:12,000
I just wouldn’t Booker.
Yeah.

762
00:37:12,000 –> 00:37:14,500
Jimmy Jimmy Kimmel was a, she
wanted to do that and I said,

763
00:37:14,500 –> 00:37:16,600
well yeah, fucking talk about
and she says you can’t talk

764
00:37:16,600 –> 00:37:18,100
about he’s like, well, I’m not
booking you.

765
00:37:18,200 –> 00:37:18,700
Yeah.
Yeah.

766
00:37:18,700 –> 00:37:20,600
It gives that much of a shit
about Barbra Streisand.

767
00:37:20,600 –> 00:37:23,200
That’s the only thing Jimmy
Kimmel’s done that I respect and

768
00:37:23,200 –> 00:37:25,400
years.
What about when he exposed this

769
00:37:25,400 –> 00:37:27,000
government cut?
What about when he died on the

770
00:37:27,000 –> 00:37:30,000
space shuttle Challenger.
We brought the juggies with us

771
00:37:30,000 –> 00:37:33,200
to find out if these people are
lying about time.

772
00:37:33,600 –> 00:37:37,000
Who is behind this Theory.
Like you say that this theory

773
00:37:37,000 –> 00:37:41,000
was was offered in 2015?
The internet baby, okay.

774
00:37:41,000 –> 00:37:42,900
But is there like a central
author?

775
00:37:43,200 –> 00:37:46,700
I don’t none that I’ve
identified, it just sort of

776
00:37:46,700 –> 00:37:50,000
popped up, probably, Adam.
Adam is saying all of this

777
00:37:50,000 –> 00:37:52,300
through a cartoon cloud of pot
smoke.

778
00:37:53,000 –> 00:37:55,700
I all the last eight words, He
said Each one had a little bit

779
00:37:55,700 –> 00:37:57,700
more smoke come out, which was
great.

780
00:37:58,000 –> 00:38:00,300
And that was really like a 6.
I like to go the energy of,

781
00:38:00,300 –> 00:38:01,700
like, I don’t know, I didn’t
research it.

782
00:38:01,700 –> 00:38:03,800
Like you don’t want to show
called conspiracy.

783
00:38:03,800 –> 00:38:05,200
I like where that would be your
one gig.

784
00:38:05,300 –> 00:38:08,400
I put the video that The
Conspiracy comes from in the

785
00:38:08,400 –> 00:38:10,600
article.
I don’t like, I don’t know the

786
00:38:10,600 –> 00:38:14,600
guy but I’m assuming that’s
where the conspiracy.

787
00:38:14,700 –> 00:38:19,100
I’m just I got robbed I just
looked him up CEO of coin Tech

788
00:38:19,100 –> 00:38:22,000
Enterprise.
Okay.

789
00:38:22,000 –> 00:38:26,300
Alright so yeah that there’s
that part of the conspiracy

790
00:38:26,300 –> 00:38:28,900
which I don’t know.
Some of those people do look

791
00:38:28,900 –> 00:38:31,600
alike.
Yeah, there’s also a PolitiFact

792
00:38:31,600 –> 00:38:35,100
article out there, debunking
this Theory, but it mostly just

793
00:38:35,100 –> 00:38:38,800
bothers me because it’s one of
those I bring this up all the

794
00:38:38,800 –> 00:38:41,700
time when there’s a conspiracy
theory that starts circulating

795
00:38:41,700 –> 00:38:43,900
on the internet.
We’re always like well what’s

796
00:38:43,900 –> 00:38:45,300
your Source?
Who is that guy?

797
00:38:45,300 –> 00:38:48,300
What are his interests but
anyone who debunk something will

798
00:38:48,300 –> 00:38:50,300
be like?
See they debunked it.

799
00:38:50,300 –> 00:38:54,500
Like it doesn’t matter if it’s
like debunks, at blogspot.com,

800
00:38:54,800 –> 00:38:57,500
we’re still like know this
article proves, it’s not true

801
00:38:57,700 –> 00:39:00,600
and Is this PolitiFact article?
That’s like, well, no, this is

802
00:39:00,600 –> 00:39:02,700
all lies.
And all its really doing is

803
00:39:02,700 –> 00:39:04,900
saying, well, all these people
had different backgrounds and

804
00:39:04,900 –> 00:39:07,100
they couldn’t have been there at
the same time.

805
00:39:07,100 –> 00:39:08,600
Well, that’s all stuff.
You can fake.

806
00:39:08,800 –> 00:39:11,000
Like that’s all like if they’re
gasps.

807
00:39:11,000 –> 00:39:14,000
I’m sure there’s like family
photos and stuff of them being

808
00:39:14,000 –> 00:39:18,000
not on the Challenger right but
that’s not what the federal

809
00:39:18,000 –> 00:39:22,100
government has no ability to
fudge the numbers and make a you

810
00:39:22,100 –> 00:39:25,100
know it’s the same shit you you
pick up two cards and you show

811
00:39:25,100 –> 00:39:25,900
one.
It’s a man.

812
00:39:25,900 –> 00:39:30,500
Ya trick ya and it’s not Like
they’re doing that like I would

813
00:39:30,500 –> 00:39:34,100
I would be fine with citing this
as evidence that this theory has

814
00:39:34,100 –> 00:39:36,700
been debunked.
If they went out and talked to

815
00:39:36,700 –> 00:39:39,800
the families and we’re like hey
do you have like some sort of

816
00:39:39,800 –> 00:39:42,600
proof that your daughter wasn’t
also on the space shuttle

817
00:39:42,600 –> 00:39:44,500
Challenger?
That’s not rude.

818
00:39:46,900 –> 00:39:51,400
It’s like liar daughtery Widow,
your daughter looks like a dead

819
00:39:51,400 –> 00:39:55,700
Edge tonight, I need pictures,
your aim but your aim there if

820
00:39:55,700 –> 00:39:59,600
you’re aiming to debunk, the
Very like your hell yeah.

821
00:39:59,600 –> 00:40:03,400
I would say much less rude to
ask the guy that’s teaching in

822
00:40:03,400 –> 00:40:05,900
Hawaii, that’s alive for his
pictures.

823
00:40:05,900 –> 00:40:08,100
Then the dead actual.
Yeah.

824
00:40:08,300 –> 00:40:10,900
So if you’re going to bug
somebody, I would start there,

825
00:40:10,900 –> 00:40:13,600
is your wife still come boomed.
Okay, goodbye.

826
00:40:15,200 –> 00:40:18,200
But I just wanted to bring that
up because that, that comes up a

827
00:40:18,200 –> 00:40:21,900
lot on this podcast, where I’ll
find articles where it’s

828
00:40:21,900 –> 00:40:23,800
debunking it.
And it’s like, well, you can

829
00:40:23,800 –> 00:40:26,900
just, you can look for whatever
the thing you’re trying to

830
00:40:26,900 –> 00:40:30,000
believe is you can Find someone
that’ll help you get there.

831
00:40:30,300 –> 00:40:32,100
Yeah.
And you can just choose to just

832
00:40:32,500 –> 00:40:34,600
acknowledge that if you want.
I mean, it’s all out there.

833
00:40:34,600 –> 00:40:38,700
I just think, in this particular
case, it’s telling that like

834
00:40:38,700 –> 00:40:42,000
they didn’t change their names
and like just the, the simple

835
00:40:42,000 –> 00:40:45,500
fact of like, you know, the
logic idea that like no one

836
00:40:45,600 –> 00:40:48,800
know, four people can keep a
fucking secret, you know what I

837
00:40:48,808 –> 00:40:51,100
mean?
Like and there’s no, this Theory

838
00:40:51,100 –> 00:40:52,800
doesn’t have any motive behind
it.

839
00:40:52,800 –> 00:40:54,600
There’s no reason there’s no
bigger picture.

840
00:40:54,600 –> 00:40:57,300
There’s no scope to it.
So it’s just like, what?

841
00:40:57,300 –> 00:40:59,800
Why?
You know, I all of those things

842
00:40:59,800 –> 00:41:03,500
together make me go bullshit.
Like yeah, just if anything you

843
00:41:03,500 –> 00:41:06,400
think like you know the ship
crashes, the astronauts come

844
00:41:06,400 –> 00:41:08,100
out.
If I’m NASA, I’m making sure

845
00:41:08,100 –> 00:41:10,300
they are dead so they can’t go
on the news and come.

846
00:41:10,300 –> 00:41:11,400
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.

847
00:41:11,400 –> 00:41:14,000
Don’t give them jobs in the same
and like yeah, sure it’s like

848
00:41:14,000 –> 00:41:16,300
all we give we give them good
jobs and tell them to keep quiet

849
00:41:16,300 –> 00:41:17,500
but now you just send somebody
out there.

850
00:41:17,500 –> 00:41:19,600
Yeah, put one in each other’s
was 86.

851
00:41:19,600 –> 00:41:22,600
We were killing Latin American.
Oh yeah, it is left.

852
00:41:22,600 –> 00:41:25,600
Is so why wouldn’t we let a
space shuttle explode?

853
00:41:25,700 –> 00:41:27,000
What?
Wait, why would we let the

854
00:41:27,000 –> 00:41:28,700
astronauts?
That’s what I’m saying, I’m a

855
00:41:28,700 –> 00:41:30,700
suit like what are the Pirates?
Assuming the version of the

856
00:41:30,700 –> 00:41:33,600
series at the space shuttle
exploded because it was I mean

857
00:41:33,600 –> 00:41:36,000
we’re about to get to this but
it was poorly built or whatever

858
00:41:36,000 –> 00:41:42,800
right my my I guess I don’t know
less fantastic theory of this

859
00:41:42,800 –> 00:41:47,000
would be maybe the government
launched the space shuttle with

860
00:41:47,000 –> 00:41:50,100
no one in it and knew it was
going to explode but that’s

861
00:41:50,100 –> 00:41:53,100
probably insurance money or
something to be going toit.

862
00:41:53,100 –> 00:41:57,800
I’m on coin week.com what I’m
seeing is a 20-18 was surprised

863
00:41:57,900 –> 00:42:01,100
Really the biggest year yet for
commemorative coin collecting?

864
00:42:01,200 –> 00:42:07,900
Wow, so nothing happened though.
It’s 2018 32 years after this

865
00:42:07,900 –> 00:42:10,500
house.
So yeah, there is a theory and I

866
00:42:10,500 –> 00:42:15,100
find this one way more plausible
that the Reagan Administration

867
00:42:15,100 –> 00:42:19,500
as part of its overall space
mission which was like the Star

868
00:42:19,500 –> 00:42:22,300
Wars Defense Initiative and
things like that which actually

869
00:42:22,300 –> 00:42:25,800
wasn’t a bad idea.
But they basically, we have to

870
00:42:25,800 –> 00:42:29,300
lunch the end before I go.
For I can have a phone call

871
00:42:29,300 –> 00:42:31,400
without giggling and pooping my
pants.

872
00:42:31,400 –> 00:42:33,400
There’s a Genesis video about
it.

873
00:42:34,000 –> 00:42:37,500
There’s an entire book called
Challenger revealed, an

874
00:42:37,500 –> 00:42:41,000
Insider’s account of how the
Reagan Administration cause the

875
00:42:41,000 –> 00:42:44,100
greatest tragedy of the space
here, but that title needs, more

876
00:42:44,100 –> 00:42:46,200
word, this isn’t.
This isn’t a conspiracy.

877
00:42:46,200 –> 00:42:46,900
Yeah.
What is that?

878
00:42:47,200 –> 00:42:49,100
What?
It’s an emo album.

879
00:42:49,100 –> 00:42:53,000
Yeah, exactly.
This isn’t, and how I stopped

880
00:42:53,000 –> 00:42:56,000
here learning to why not, but,
not thinking about to bomb, this

881
00:42:56,000 –> 00:42:58,200
is just the way things are.
Right.

882
00:42:58,200 –> 00:43:01,500
But the government also lies
about this like they got the

883
00:43:01,508 –> 00:43:04,600
government has not acknowledged
that Reagan cause the fucking

884
00:43:04,600 –> 00:43:07,200
Challenger disaster.
Yeah, but they don’t need to.

885
00:43:07,200 –> 00:43:09,700
I mean the thing is is that it’s
just like this is how the

886
00:43:09,700 –> 00:43:12,000
government works.
So how do you decide when it’s

887
00:43:12,000 –> 00:43:16,000
just how the government works
and when it’s too insane to

888
00:43:16,000 –> 00:43:20,700
believe because one is just as
just is like causality is just

889
00:43:20,700 –> 00:43:25,100
like or ordinary causality that
leads to terrible shit.

890
00:43:25,100 –> 00:43:29,200
Because that right life and the
other Is because we also know

891
00:43:29,200 –> 00:43:34,000
what we also did MKUltra and for
what like if we didn’t find the

892
00:43:34,000 –> 00:43:38,000
documents about that forever, we
would be like okay if the if the

893
00:43:38,000 –> 00:43:40,500
CIA really did that what were
they doing it for?

894
00:43:40,700 –> 00:43:41,000
Well.
Yeah.

895
00:43:41,000 –> 00:43:43,400
And the only reason we found out
is because they miss filed a

896
00:43:43,400 –> 00:43:44,200
bunch of them.
Yeah.

897
00:43:44,200 –> 00:43:46,400
And some like fucking just
dutiful paper.

898
00:43:46,400 –> 00:43:48,500
Pusher was okay.
I found all this shit and that’s

899
00:43:48,500 –> 00:43:49,500
right.
That’s the other thing.

900
00:43:49,500 –> 00:43:51,700
That shit happens all the time
where it’s just like a

901
00:43:51,700 –> 00:43:54,400
bureaucratic mistake or clerical
error.

902
00:43:54,500 –> 00:43:56,300
And so stuff comes to light all
the time.

903
00:43:56,300 –> 00:43:59,400
So what happens way more Is that
they’re just able to shred

904
00:43:59,400 –> 00:44:01,900
everything and none of it
fucking comes to light because

905
00:44:01,900 –> 00:44:04,200
they almost got away with that
with MKUltra.

906
00:44:04,200 –> 00:44:07,700
It was just one box of documents
that got put in the wrong place,

907
00:44:07,700 –> 00:44:11,000
but how many other boxes of
documents have just all been

908
00:44:11,000 –> 00:44:13,400
shredded without being put in
the wrong place?

909
00:44:13,400 –> 00:44:15,800
You know, like King Tut’s tomb
isn’t like he’s not the biggest

910
00:44:15,800 –> 00:44:18,000
Fair of the most important guys.
Just the one they found.

911
00:44:18,000 –> 00:44:19,800
That’s the most well-preserved,
you know.

912
00:44:19,800 –> 00:44:22,200
I think if it’s kind of the same
thing, it’s like, if that’s the

913
00:44:22,200 –> 00:44:24,700
shit we found, you know what?
It’s that.

914
00:44:24,700 –> 00:44:28,200
Insane, you got to figure.
There’s so I bet Done.

915
00:44:28,200 –> 00:44:31,500
Some truly ridiculous shit.
Just like find the worst one

916
00:44:31,500 –> 00:44:34,600
completely unnecessary that
where I’m sure this was part of

917
00:44:34,600 –> 00:44:37,200
some like harebrained fucking
square.

918
00:44:37,200 –> 00:44:40,600
Top thought up plan, you’re a
bunch of fucking 50 year old

919
00:44:40,600 –> 00:44:43,600
idiots, got together and, you
know, ate pork and decided that

920
00:44:43,600 –> 00:44:46,500
this should kill some people.
So they could do X and Y,

921
00:44:46,500 –> 00:44:49,200
fucking communist countries.
Or, I don’t know, maybe if I

922
00:44:49,200 –> 00:44:51,200
can, I’m not gonna spend a lot
of time thinking about it.

923
00:44:51,200 –> 00:44:52,500
They sure do look similar
though.

924
00:44:52,700 –> 00:44:55,600
It was a cold war, baby.
Most of them do I just its

925
00:44:55,600 –> 00:44:57,400
communist?
Yeah, yeah, exactly.

926
00:44:57,600 –> 00:45:00,400
But Yeah, that one is a little
more believable.

927
00:45:00,500 –> 00:45:03,000
There’s there’s right.
I was several movies about wrong

928
00:45:03,000 –> 00:45:05,600
about the twins so I’m probably
wrong about the whole thing.

929
00:45:06,900 –> 00:45:08,600
Yeah.
I mean he said I don’t know if

930
00:45:08,600 –> 00:45:10,500
I’m wrong about the twins.
I’m also right about the twins

931
00:45:10,500 –> 00:45:11,700
because they’re just the same
guy.

932
00:45:11,800 –> 00:45:13,700
Wow.
Sorry you really brought this to

933
00:45:13,700 –> 00:45:18,000
a halt.
Robert look i-i’ll twins.

934
00:45:18,000 –> 00:45:18,900
Look alike to you.
Now.

935
00:45:18,900 –> 00:45:25,200
Andy, what Look, let’s put this
behind.

936
00:45:25,200 –> 00:45:27,300
Us said, we’ll throw on a some
fun.

937
00:45:27,300 –> 00:45:33,100
Maybe an Arnold Schwarzenegger
movie, and so, that’s pretty

938
00:45:33,100 –> 00:45:37,200
much the the conspiracy when it
comes to the Challenger, it’s

939
00:45:37,200 –> 00:45:40,400
that they’re all still alive and
will put the pictures up.

940
00:45:40,400 –> 00:45:43,600
People can go look, we’ll put
video of the disaster up.

941
00:45:43,600 –> 00:45:45,700
If you want to relive that, I
didn’t really see what was

942
00:45:45,700 –> 00:45:47,200
there.
A reason to rigging push it up

943
00:45:47,200 –> 00:45:49,600
to be, was it to be like
politically advantageous to be

944
00:45:49,600 –> 00:45:54,000
wanted to get a, er, he wanted
the teachers in space, G to be

945
00:45:54,200 –> 00:45:57,200
already happening by the time
his State of the Union Address

946
00:45:57,300 –> 00:45:58,700
happened.
Gotcha.

947
00:45:58,700 –> 00:46:01,200
This we could be like get a load
of this bitch had put.

948
00:46:01,200 –> 00:46:04,600
Yeah it’s like we put a woman in
space.

949
00:46:04,700 –> 00:46:07,500
They put to actually.
Yeah, there were two.

950
00:46:07,600 –> 00:46:10,600
Yeah, Judith and they fucking
left them and the space shuttle

951
00:46:10,700 –> 00:46:12,800
exploded.
It wonderful cook in one for

952
00:46:12,800 –> 00:46:16,100
cleaning.
Listen touch.

953
00:46:16,100 –> 00:46:22,300
Its me Ronald Reagan.
The freaking president Hail to

954
00:46:22,300 –> 00:46:25,600
the me.
If I goddamn for you, we’ve made

955
00:46:25,600 –> 00:46:28,000
the space suit with an apron on
it.

956
00:46:28,000 –> 00:46:30,500
It’s got your name, embroidered
right there.

957
00:46:31,300 –> 00:46:34,100
Now buckle up, shut your mouth
and died.

958
00:46:36,400 –> 00:46:40,100
We’ve already got a clone ready
to teach people about economics,

959
00:46:40,100 –> 00:46:42,700
30 years later.
It’s okay, no one can hear you

960
00:46:42,700 –> 00:46:44,900
clean.
It’s a whole three dimensional

961
00:46:44,900 –> 00:46:47,900
plane.
Nobody’s Gonna See It Coming.

962
00:46:48,000 –> 00:46:51,500
You gotta vacuum in the vacuum.
I think about it.

963
00:46:51,500 –> 00:46:54,400
This is Reagan.
So I didn’t have to be a reason.

964
00:46:54,800 –> 00:46:55,600
Yeah.
All right.

965
00:46:55,600 –> 00:46:56,600
Just be for fun.
Yeah.

966
00:46:56,700 –> 00:47:00,100
God told him this happened
because I hate too many Jelly

967
00:47:00,100 –> 00:47:02,900
Beans this morning and got a
sugar high.

968
00:47:04,000 –> 00:47:06,400
Did, you know, Reagan
legitimately believed we would

969
00:47:06,400 –> 00:47:09,200
survive a nuclear war with
Russia.

970
00:47:09,400 –> 00:47:11,500
Yes, he thought that’s a good
one.

971
00:47:11,500 –> 00:47:15,600
Yeah, he thought it was his
mission from God to cause a

972
00:47:15,607 –> 00:47:19,100
nuclear conflict with Russia and
that because God was on our

973
00:47:19,100 –> 00:47:21,500
side.
We as a certain country would

974
00:47:21,500 –> 00:47:23,000
survive.
Well that’s scariest.

975
00:47:23,200 –> 00:47:24,100
I’ve ever heard.
Yeah.

976
00:47:24,100 –> 00:47:25,800
Yeah.
And then what you don’t believe

977
00:47:25,800 –> 00:47:29,000
that and then George Bush just
kind of carried that same thing

978
00:47:29,000 –> 00:47:32,600
on except with Isis.
My favorite thing about Isis and

979
00:47:32,700 –> 00:47:38,200
us is that we both think Jesus
is coming back for our side,

980
00:47:38,200 –> 00:47:41,400
which makes me really want to
see that final battle because of

981
00:47:41,400 –> 00:47:44,100
Jesus doesn’t come back for us.
That’s going to be fucking

982
00:47:44,100 –> 00:47:45,600
great, man.
I love down.

983
00:47:45,600 –> 00:47:48,400
Grabs the eskimos and nobody
else has that.

984
00:47:48,400 –> 00:47:50,900
I’m really hungry.
So, to watch everybody get

985
00:47:50,900 –> 00:47:54,500
ghosted by Christ as soon as The
sea levels, start to rise and

986
00:47:54,500 –> 00:47:58,700
it’s like, oh, okay.
Awesome.

987
00:47:58,700 –> 00:48:00,800
Because there is that thing
where they always talk about

988
00:48:00,800 –> 00:48:04,400
aliens making contact with the
Nazis and it’s like, why are

989
00:48:04,400 –> 00:48:06,400
they contacting the Nazis?
We work.

990
00:48:06,400 –> 00:48:09,200
If you were if you were an alien
head Handler, you know what

991
00:48:09,200 –> 00:48:12,600
forms be like they seem like
they know what they’re doing

992
00:48:12,600 –> 00:48:14,300
like that.
If you didn’t know the context

993
00:48:14,300 –> 00:48:16,900
being an alien and all but you
have to know the context You’re

994
00:48:16,900 –> 00:48:18,500
an Alien, you know everything.
Yeah.

995
00:48:18,500 –> 00:48:22,500
You sort of have to fly through
the this part of to, you can

996
00:48:22,500 –> 00:48:25,700
create enough Energy to warp
space-time which is to our

997
00:48:25,707 –> 00:48:30,000
understanding is like you know
the limit of primate life is it

998
00:48:30,000 –> 00:48:32,500
would take like more energy than
there is in the universe to

999
00:48:32,500 –> 00:48:36,000
create an alcubierre drive
system that could move you along

1000
00:48:36,000 –> 00:48:38,900
faster than the speed of light.
So if you’re smart enough to do

1001
00:48:38,900 –> 00:48:42,700
that, I imagine you could, you
know, have systems available

1002
00:48:42,700 –> 00:48:45,000
that would analyze the
linguistic patterns and

1003
00:48:45,000 –> 00:48:47,000
behaviors of people to the point
that you could determine the

1004
00:48:47,000 –> 00:48:49,900
Nazis had some bad ideas.
Yeah, but what if you want to

1005
00:48:49,900 –> 00:48:53,000
actually aliens, don’t
necessarily love.

1006
00:48:53,100 –> 00:48:54,600
Of Jews.
We don’t know that it’s,

1007
00:48:54,700 –> 00:48:56,100
there’s, there’s a couple
different approaches.

1008
00:48:56,100 –> 00:48:58,200
Yes, aliens might be
anti-semitic.

1009
00:48:58,200 –> 00:49:00,900
They might be like, well, we
used to have juice on our planet

1010
00:49:01,400 –> 00:49:03,900
and then we sent him to you.
Yeah, we’re anti-gravity

1011
00:49:03,900 –> 00:49:08,500
somatic, but or the it could be
another clerical error

1012
00:49:09,000 –> 00:49:12,300
bureaucracy thing where it’s
like somebody mistranslated one

1013
00:49:12,300 –> 00:49:16,600
word of the Hue of, you know,
German right to the alien

1014
00:49:16,600 –> 00:49:19,000
language that.
We spilled a slurm can on this.

1015
00:49:20,100 –> 00:49:21,200
Yeah.
Oh boy.

1016
00:49:21,200 –> 00:49:24,500
Are they miss they miss filed?
We give you a full-size to the

1017
00:49:24,500 –> 00:49:26,300
wrong guys.
It could also be that they know

1018
00:49:26,300 –> 00:49:27,600
what’s up with.
There’s like hey this shit’s

1019
00:49:27,600 –> 00:49:30,600
between y’all like another me
who knows.

1020
00:49:30,700 –> 00:49:33,400
Damn you aliens.
I believe aliens would abide by

1021
00:49:33,400 –> 00:49:35,900
the prime directive but you know
it’s me probably.

1022
00:49:36,200 –> 00:49:39,400
All right, let’s get the fuck
out of here and he said goodbye.

1023
00:49:39,400 –> 00:49:42,800
Look later Keith say goodbye,
bye.

1024
00:49:42,800 –> 00:49:45,500
Connor say goodbye, everyone.
Goodbye everybody.

1025
00:49:45,500 –> 00:49:51,600
We love you people.