Adam and Connor explore the various theories surrounding the possibility that ancient civilizations on Earth (and Mars) engaged in nuclear war.
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Welcome to conspiracy the show
with your host Adam Todd Brown
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and Connor mcspadden.
So welcome to conspiracy the
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show.
I think we’re still not firm on
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the title.
Yeah, that’s what we’re calling
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it right now.
We’re recording these might seem
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as though we’ve had two weeks to
deliberate this but no, in fact,
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it has not know we do these all
at once because it’s just easier
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that way.
We’re busy guys.
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Yeah.
I mean, I got me and Connor
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going to come up with two days a
month where we’re free in the We
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live four minutes away.
This is true.
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I could walk.
I think I was I was very much
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consider.
He’s like no, I’ll pay $20 for
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parking.
No, thank you.
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Yeah, it’s yeah, you live super
close preposterously close right
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up literally right up the
street.
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I’m in Echo Park.
I’ve always so with the idea of
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doing a visual game where I show
you a picture and you have to
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play Ecco Parker Aleppo.
So I feel like the walk over
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here would be a little bit more
of an adventure.
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But yeah, yeah, it would be a
tense walk for sure.
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So well, what are we talking
about today?
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Today a lot of tents line
industry today.
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We’re talking about ancient
nuclear war.
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Yeah subject very near and dear
to my heart Ancient Aliens.
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I think our ton of fun.
This is such a fun show to watch
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it is yeah.
Well I operate in a space when I
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listen to conspiracy theory
related media were while I’m
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listening to it.
I just take it as true.
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Oh, yes for sure.
You know Coast to Coast AM on AM
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radio just while you’re in the
car at two in the morning two
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fucking Chemtrails are out
there.
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Yeah.
All right, so it’s all true.
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Just give that to yourself and
the drab go a lot quicker.
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Yeah, Ancient Aliens is a lot
more enjoyable to watch if you
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don’t go in super skeptical.
Yeah.
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It’s like a magic show.
Don’t be looking for the wires.
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Yeah, you know just have a good
time.
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Let’s check out the guy’s hair.
Now this actually brings up two
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things that I hadn’t heard of
before because most of the
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ancient alien thinks that I’ve
did and I’ve seen and heard
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about it like the Cherry to the
god stuff and the other pictures
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of these crafts and like, oh we
put them in a wind tunnel and
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they’re actually flying these
are there people are claiming
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that there is ancient nuclear.
Ian’s on Earth, you know, that
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weren’t naturally occurring
right and also on Mars also on
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Mars.
All right, so I think probably
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start with Earth First.
Yeah.
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Well, we know of a couple that
happened on Earth for sure.
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Yeah the test.
Yeah, I don’t think there’s been
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one since will JFK signed the
nuclear testing agreement, but I
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think I think it may have been
you know, so around the 60s was
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probably the last night.
Yeah, the last US nuclear test.
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Yeah, like countries like France
the rats was testing on.
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People in French Polynesia, like
into the mid-90s because they’re
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like, yeah that’s native
sniffing.
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You’re not gonna know if they
get cancer.
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They’re just gonna think it’s
God.
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Yeah, they’ve been cursed it’s
fun of their wacky God that’s so
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yeah there have been a lot of
nuclear tests, but we’re still
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the only country to ever drop
one and War.
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Yeah, and by that I mean to yep
August 6, 1945 and August 9th,
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1945 Hiroshima and Nagasaki,
Japan respectively we dropped.
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At atomic bombs on them our
first we started the atomic bomb
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project.
It was signed off on by
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Roosevelt and 42.
We tested our first bomb in 45
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interesting quote Robert
Oppenheimer after testing the
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first nuclear explosion, when
asked if this was indeed the
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first nuclear explosion, he
replied yes in modern times.
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That is weird that he said that
yeah.
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I don’t think that he was
thinking about the the some of
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the the glass deposits that were
going to be Talking about but
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it’s one of those things where
you almost want to go back and
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tell people like oh just phrase
that a little differently
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because people are going to
speculate like a motherfucker.
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Yes, you know, but he did seem
to be into the belief that there
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was some sort of ancient weapon
in India because he did quote he
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quoted the Bhagavad Gita.
Yeah.
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I think it’s pronounced now, I
am become death the destroyer of
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worlds.
That was his quote after we
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finally drop the bomb.
It’s one of those things where
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like way to be Dramatic almost
like Neil Armstrong real like
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how many drafts did you go
through before you go to one
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small step for a man one.
Giant lie, you know, he’s like,
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yeah, how many ancient
scriptures like I should I do
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the Valley of Death should I do
death destroyer of worlds?
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Yeah, and then everyone heard
the Neil Armstrong quote wrong.
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Oh, yeah.
That’s I quoted it correctly.
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I won’t step for a man.
Yeah, because everyone everyone
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heard them what we call a space
stick.
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Yeah talk about the Gemini
program.
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We’ll talk about the Gemini
program.
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Everyone heard one small step
for man.
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And which would make the quote
make no sense?
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Yeah, because that was a huge
step for man gigantic step.
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But uh, yeah one small step for
the contradict itself like one
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small step for man, but a giant
leap for mankind like are you
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talking about the wrestler?
This is all falling apart.
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Yeah, but it does make more
sense when you put the a in
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there.
Yeah, but I mean that audio
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sounded like it was recorded on
that lawyers dictaphone and that
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callback.
Yeah, that was and I just set
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off an air horn for Oklahoma
City pour out some fucking
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compressed air for the hundred
sixty eight innocent lives.
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Is that how many it was 160?
I think so.
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Yeah, something like that and
like 680 injured put up some
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better numbers make they lazy
bitch.
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You’re not anywhere else on that
with me goddamnit Connor.
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No, I haven’t completely
resigned myself to never being
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on TV.
So I’m a have it’s okay.
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We got the wolf lamp in the
patreon.
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We’re good.
Right.
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So let’s talk about one of the
first theories around ancient
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nuclear war because everyone
knows everyone the American.
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I mean there’s it earlier for
one of them.
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Did I always thought Truman was
a good president.
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But the more I’m learning about
it.
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I’m thinking this guy’s a
fucking asshole.
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Oh, have you seen the untold
story of the United States?
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Yeah.
I was watching that that would
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write a few other things the
Truman episodes crazy.
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It’s fucking Bonkers.
Yeah turned into a total cunt.
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Oh and after the time to drop
the time exciting scientist
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fucking convene and start like
You know, like signing this, you
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know, the Declaration of you
know intent by their group that
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can get this should be should
never be used again.
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They should yeah.
She’s all testing and he’s just
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like get the fuck out of my
office Jill and you’re like,
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whoa, Jesus.
Well Harry.
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Yeah, he turned into a real
piece of shit after we got that
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bomb and it was one where he’s
drinking with Churchill and
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drizzles like oh when we get up
to the to the gates and we have
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to talk to space St.
Peter and I have some explaining
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to do about this mess, which is
really like what you would say
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if World War II was like a you
know, 60s like cop drama and you
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needed that fun and of the
episode riff, you know, like I
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tell you the Thunderbirds have
had a wacky weekend and then
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Truman just said, oh whatever he
had.
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I got explain shit just bunch of
Japs are either fine just raises
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piece of shit, but the the
ancient nuclear bomb that people
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are theories and when they when
they tested it and New Mexico
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that the Trinity test all the
glass on the desert floor of the
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LDS and on the desert floor
turned out like this green glass
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right type, you know substance
and they are saying that they
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found deposits of identical
Green Glass in the subcontinent
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of India.
So leads them to believe that
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there was an advanced
civilization capable of doing
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this and there’s multiple layers
of, you know, agricultural
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Societies or evidence of
Agriculture and stuff, you know
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above and below it so that you
know that you can see the kind
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of like the receipts of mankind.
Yeah positions pass underneath
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it when the in the soil
deposits.
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Yeah.
It’s the substance is called
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trinitite and it was Not one of
the shitty new Pokemon, but
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rather and it’s a glassy residue
that was left on the desert
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floor after the Trinity nuclear
bomb tests.
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So like this substance is
basically named after our
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nuclear our first nuclear bomb
test, which was also called
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Trinity and it’s a thing that
shows up like it takes a really
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intense heat to produce this.
Yeah, another interesting thing.
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I read is that one of King Tut’s
necklaces one of the pieces of
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Of is of a trinitite.
Yeah.
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Yeah, which is that’s that’s
some fucking crazy shit.
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Yeah, that’s that’s insane.
I don’t mean if you’re a fair.
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I mean, that’s what yeah, give
me a piece of a meteorite for a
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ring.
Give me some of that nuclear
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blast from my necklace.
Just whatever has fallen from
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this is probably what killed him
but Master is a necklace that
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probably gave him throat cancer
that are the incest that’ll do
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it too.
But yeah, this trinitite is is
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one of the things that shows up.
Watch the Ancient Aliens clip, I
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think which I think this will
give us a this little say what
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we’re trying to say in both more
and less eloquent terms.
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They explain it so much better.
All right, here we go that long
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ago shape the Earth’s history
Atomic Warfare among ancient
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civilizations may sound like
something out of a science
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fiction novel sort of yes of
similar deadly occurrences can
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be found in the very but we need
to sell.
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L advertisement after the New
Mexico Atomic test Hindu
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scripture the Bhagavad Gita now
I am become death the destroyer
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of worlds.
What does he look morose?
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Yeah.
He looks like a straight-up
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vampire looks like someone who
just killed millions of people
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in Japan and is regretting it.
Part of an ancient Hindu
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scriptures Unique Look, you know
those like facial expression
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charts to give the people with
Autism, you know, this is when
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someone’s happy is when they
said this is when someone
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murdered a bunch of people,
they’ll never know 100,000 verse
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text contains stories about the
ancient empire of Rama, which it
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is said existed over 12,000
years ago or roughly 5,000 years
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before the earliest record.
That’s the problem with Ancient
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Aliens.
They never cite there.
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Sources like if you read the
ancient Indian epics, they read
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like modern-day.
Seriously.
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This is everyone’s favorite Guy.
This is the guy that’s a
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notorious mean Giorgio Tsoukalos
of these gods that had these
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incredible technological
capabilities, but in Korea right
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here, I wouldn’t I don’t think
elephants are very aerodynamic.
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Yeah, one of the one of the
arguments people make is called
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is that When people were seeing
this the only reference point
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they had positives animals.
Oh, yeah, I mean and you also
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see that there’s a there’s a
group of Islanders where they
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were are dropped like Aid like
crates full of supplies and Ship
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by these planes.
So they started worshipping the
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planes and they thought the
planes were gods and they like
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create a replica of a plane and
set it on fire to try to some of
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the plane gods and shit like
that.
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And so I mean, I’m not disputing
that I was just a little goof
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but yeah, definitely I mean this
is like, oh what’s this things
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are going so fast.
What what?
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We have to go as fast as fuck
and chariots hurts elephants.
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Yeah, it’s not go fast.
But it in there.
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Anyway, I would have yeah, we
get will be dead before anyone
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cares.
All right, so let’s get back to
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it Nancy red star.
She’s our she’s our source for
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the Cirrus believe the Brahma
weapon was an early nuclear
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device because the descriptions
of its deadly after-effects are
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eerily similar to the effects of
exposure to intense radiation.
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This is he started A Thousand
Paper Cranes by convention
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itself and Sadako gender is no
evidence that a nuclear bomb was
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described in the Mahabharata the
Bhagavad Gita see that that’s it
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describes that guy also
pronounced bhagavad-gita the way
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my dad pronounces guacamole and
the boggidy boggidy boo.
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There ain’t no evidence.
It’s one thing about suggesting
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bad hair day for this guy.
He looks like Katt Williams with
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hair like that.
He does.
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Yeah and pulling it back
questionable move when you have
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that level of forehead.
Yeah for sure he/she needs some
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bangs one reference that we have
for example speaker.
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It’s a big feet.
He got these Charles Manson
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swastika.
He could do the eagle on top of
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it now see these blasts this car
he’s talking about The air that
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degrees people who debunk this
actually have I was just doing
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mass destruction because what
he’s referencing is actually
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from a book written by French
conspiracy theorist in the 60s.
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Yeah there they translated it to
basically fit there.
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Yes concise reference to
radiation poisoning nuclear
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fallout, but the and will read
the I know we’re talking over.
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This will read the quote in a in
a bit.
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But what bothers me about this
and we’ll also get to this more
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is people laugh.
Each on to that one thing that
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these people get wrong and
they’re like well then
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everything they say is wrong.
Yeah.
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Look.
Oh the guy that came up with
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this fucked a kidney like well,
you know and the office hours.
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Yeah pretty good.
Journalistic good research
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skills.
Yeah found the right kid to
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fucks.
I mean, yeah, he kept quiet for
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20 years and had a good run.
He’s able to get a lot of good
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research done.
In 1922 an officer with an
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Indian archeological survey
group discovered the ruins of an
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ancient city known as
Mohenjo-daro.
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So Mohenjo-daro is the site
where geologist a lot of people
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believe this ancient nuclear war
happened and they’re going to
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get into however some of the
reasons why they have suggested
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Mohenjo-daro is much older.
Oh mainstream.
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Are you tell leave the city was
abandoned as a result of
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climatic changes or possibly a
decrease in trade or when the
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room is Mohenjo-daro were
discovered be snugs and twenties
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44 skeletons were found.
See this one just this there
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being a little shady about to
because a lot of these bodies
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body positioning were not found
in the same.
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They suffered a sudden violent
death and some of them Actually
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buried you have a culture of
people who literally were lying
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dead in the street
archaeologists have found human
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remains and something big has
happened against the
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archaeologists again.
What in fact did happen to the
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people of Mohenjo-daro see
that’s the thing.
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No one knows what happened to
these people.
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They know it was a really
Advanced civilization that just
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kind of disappeared at one point
to its to it level where they
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Advance do they do they say,
what do you said like flushing
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toilets and they had like
flashing Boy, lets him working
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roadways.
There’s some suggestion that
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they had electricity.
No.
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Yeah exists from those Baghdad
batteries have seen those.
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Yeah.
Yeah.
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It is.
Actually there’s a write-up for
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a battery in one of their
ancient a question.
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Text Blake Clay Pot batteries to
nuclear weaponry is such a
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that’s a huge leap.
Yeah, I mean because you know,
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if you’re implying that this
came from outside, he’s
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mentioned elements.
I mean, that’s a little more A
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little bit like I don’t that
suffered the equivalent.
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Again.
This is the second Atomic
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attack.
If you are Advanced enough to
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create teen seven, the nuclear
weapon is cuman’s there be more
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evidence that you left behind
like you would third these BC
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metal and shit like that.
That would be granted in such a
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way like oh this was done.
Deliberately.
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Yeah appeared to have been fused
through a transformative process
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known as vitrification
vitrification is a process in
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which regular-type Stone regular
gets molten into a magma.
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Magma State aliens and then it
hardens again.
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But once the stone is hardened
again, it feels like glass at
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Mohenjo-daro we find evidence of
vitrification which could have
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only been achieved if the
material was exposed to extreme
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heat now what people who
disagree with this this part say
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is that there was a calm that
they use to make pottery.
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But on the borders that produce
that glass but then why wouldn’t
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we see more of that glass like
what that glass because Kilns
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were rare.
Yeah, like why would that you
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know it wasn’t you see that and
you know people with similar
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yeah, you know geographical
composition.
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There’s other evidence in parts
of yeah, this is like sort of
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kind of I found a sneaker in my
house.
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Yeah wife’s fucking a black guy.
It’s a it’s just the
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extrapolation is a fun.
But yeah. and that I mean that
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is a thing that happens when a
nuclear bomb hits and it does
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make basically a big sea of
glass.
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There’s also one in Libya though
and no one is 100% sure why
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Lucien there’s a sea of glass in
Libya and there’s no like
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Civilization known as around
that that was just ran does
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those were the aliens took a
potshot?
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Yeah test examiner tested their
bomb there and I quote at one
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point three giant cities were
orbiting the Earth and those
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giants These were often
described as being made of
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gleaming Metal and Iron Iron
Point.
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Those three cities went to war
with each other.
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Oh, yeah, and so there are
spaceships fighting.
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Yeah, that’s kind of when you
look at the description or the
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drawings from these texts.
That’s basically what it is is
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three entities fighting in the
sky.
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Yeah.
And so when you read those
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passages basically Earth had
three alien stepdad show up
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fight over India.
Yeah ancestors try to describe
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here.
See this is the thing.
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You can’t I think that it was
some type of a technology.
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You can’t fault them for making
everything look like elephants
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and chariots in the sky.
I mean, that’s what they had.
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Like, I can’t draw spaceship.
I only saw it once for eight
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seconds.
Yeah, but just say it’s an
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elephant because we already I’m
pretty good at drawing those we
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all just got some shit.
And so the guy that this face
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painting like can you do Darth
Maul?
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And it’s like you want to be
Peter Criss from KISS
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Supernatural?
Hmm fact the Mahabharata is
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describing historical events
might we also find similar.
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All right.
Well that would have well as
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edited clip for a prestigious
platform such as Ancient Aliens
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on the History Channel that
ended a might we also next next
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video prince playing Purple Rain
live on this is go right into
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them.
So yeah, that’s the Ancient
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Aliens description.
For what?
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They think happened in the Indus
Valley and there’s a website see
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this we talked about this a
little bit on the last episode
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whenever you bring up stuff like
this people want really hard
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verifiable references and
sources for if you’re on the
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side of the conspiracy, but when
it comes to debunking it, I
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promise you someone would send
you a link to Ancient Aliens
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debunked.com.
Yeah, and be like, nope.
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It’s been debunked already, bro.
Oh snoops it dude.
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Yeah, it’s like who the fuck are
these people and some of their
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quotes that is actually a
website Ancient Aliens
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debunk.com and they have an
article on Ancient nuclear
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warfare.
One of the things they bring up
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one of the first problems.
This is a quote one of the first
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problems with this theory is the
city itself its buildings are
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still intact some of which are
15 feet high and they’re made
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out of mud.
So you would think a nuclear
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weapon whose main destructive
power is in the force of its
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blast wave would Able to topple
a few mud brick buildings, you
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would think that I’ve built a
live in a nicer house than
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people that lives a thousand
years ago, but nope see I
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disagree with this point because
that video we were just watching
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they showed a bunch of tests
blasts.
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We’re even trees just kind of
Bend and then snap back into
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place.
Now, you just hear something
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that I’m struggling with was the
the sea of glass has this
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underneath the city or is it
near and around the city?
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It’s at the Mohenjo-daro a site.
I don’t know.
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That that sea of glass is
actually confirmed.
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Okay, they just say they found
evidence of vitrification there.
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Okay, someone has claimed
there’s a sea of glass but I’ve
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no I haven’t seen pictures.
I mean that that other stuff
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you’re talking about in Pakistan
sounds a little more interesting
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than because if this is just
like bits and pieces here and
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there that sounds very much like
it’s plausible that it’s just
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the Kilns that they’re talking
about.
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Yeah, you know, but I mean also
if it’s far enough away, I mean
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if if you’re for if anything’s
far enough away from a nuclear I
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mean there’s a there’s a sweet
spot location where you’re going
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to just get that like palm tree
blowing in the wind fucking
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experience and then the slow
death of radiation.
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But anything close to that, you
know anywhere near mud Huts are
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not going to survive obviously,
right?
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But the thing is if you’re not
right in that blast radius a mud
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hut wouldn’t the heat from that
just sort of make that stronger.
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It would just sort of baked it
into a harder brick right?
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Like that’s how making I mean.
Mud, I mean, I guess I’m
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structures Works mud structures
are usually in pretty hot
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places.
So yeah, and I think that’s why
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they’re in hot places.
Yeah, because the the heat helps
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them fuse into something like a
break it turns the mud into
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brick.
It’s weird to understand it in
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Aliens.
You have to remember social
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studies lecture about Adobe.
Yeah.
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Exactly.
It’s three parts straw for parts
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poop now, okay, so that’s their
first thing they bring up when
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debunking this.
They also bring up.
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None of the archaeologists
involved thought these skeletons
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suggested a sudden catastrophe
which is incorrect.
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The first archaeologists who
found this location.
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This is a quote.
However, even though some of the
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original excavators interpreted
the evidence in a way that
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suggested the bodies were linked
by a single catastrophic event.
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They took the view that the
catastrophe was a war in that a
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nuclear explosion.
So that’s fine.
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But that the way the the site
that’s debunking this paint.
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It is that no one ever said it
was a single catastrophic.
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This was a single cat.
Yeah obviously are not going to
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jump right to owe these people
lying out to these mud Huts must
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have been victims of nuclear
warfare, right?
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Yeah.
Here’s the passage that fucks
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everyone up.
This is allegedly from the
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Mojave Mahabharata Gurkha flying
us the Mahna Mahna do do do do
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do that’s the one Gurkha flying
a Swift and Powerful vemana
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hurled a single projectile
charged with a power of the
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universe.
An incandescent column of smoke
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and Flame as brightest. 10,000
Suns rose with all its Splendor.
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It was an unknown weapon and
iron Thunderbolt a gigantic
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messenger of death, which
reduced to ashes the entire race
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of the vrishnis and the on takas
the corpses were so burned as to
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be recognizable hair and nails
fell out Pottery broke without
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apparent cause and the birds
turned white after a few hours
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all foodstuffs were infected to
escape.
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Misfire the soldiers threw
themselves and streams to wash
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themselves and their equipment.
So that sounds like nuclear
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poisoning.
Yeah, that sounds like people
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suffering from The Fallout of
radiation to play Devil’s
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Advocate.
I also feel like if you read
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enough scripture from any
religion of Worcester is an
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innumerable amount of you could
find shit.
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That sounds like shit that
happens today, you know.
435
00:24:28,700 –> 00:24:31,600
Yeah first and this is like I
discovered that if you play the
436
00:24:31,600 –> 00:24:35,100
Star Trek next Generation intro
and sync it up with last train
437
00:24:35,100 –> 00:24:37,400
to London by ELO.
It works perfectly.
438
00:24:37,500 –> 00:24:40,600
I think much in the same way.
You could also say that this you
439
00:24:40,600 –> 00:24:45,200
know flowery description of this
is just you know, a coincidence.
440
00:24:45,300 –> 00:24:47,500
Yeah.
Well the thing is this is what
441
00:24:47,500 –> 00:24:50,300
that in conjunction with the
glasses interesting but I don’t
442
00:24:50,300 –> 00:24:54,500
think that I’m not this doesn’t
have enough cohesion from
443
00:24:54,500 –> 00:24:57,200
YouTube.
I am as it’s really hard like
444
00:24:57,200 –> 00:25:00,500
there’s no way anyone’s ever
going to prove it.
445
00:25:00,500 –> 00:25:03,500
Yeah, like if there was if there
was something like others, you
446
00:25:03,500 –> 00:25:06,500
know.
Hundred circular Acres of this
447
00:25:06,500 –> 00:25:09,100
Green Glass under yeah, and
then, you know this in this
448
00:25:09,100 –> 00:25:11,600
nearby town they had this in
this is reported in this
449
00:25:11,600 –> 00:25:13,700
document which traces back to
this area.
450
00:25:13,800 –> 00:25:15,900
I’m like, okay.
All right, but yeah, it’s all
451
00:25:15,900 –> 00:25:18,900
kind of seems a bit.
Yeah this what it seems like
452
00:25:18,900 –> 00:25:21,800
they’re kind of piecing things
together, but have Hazard.
453
00:25:21,800 –> 00:25:24,500
Yeah as much as I want this to
be true of this is fucking bad
454
00:25:24,500 –> 00:25:27,600
ass.
It kind of seems like no one
455
00:25:27,600 –> 00:25:31,300
really knows so both sides are
just sort of piecing together
456
00:25:31,600 –> 00:25:34,000
their argument for why this
could or couldn’t happen.
457
00:25:34,100 –> 00:25:40,000
Yeah, and that that quote that
everyone latches onto as proof
458
00:25:40,000 –> 00:25:46,200
that this happened is actually
not from the Mahabharata.
459
00:25:46,400 –> 00:25:51,100
Like people think it is which
that it’s from a book written in
460
00:25:51,100 –> 00:25:55,300
1960 called the morning
magicians which was written by a
461
00:25:55,300 –> 00:25:57,700
team of French conspiracy
theorists.
462
00:25:58,100 –> 00:26:03,400
And so if that passage is
somewhere in the mahabharata–
463
00:26:03,800 –> 00:26:05,700
know Found it yet.
So that’s it.
464
00:26:05,800 –> 00:26:07,900
People have probably love
control left.
465
00:26:08,000 –> 00:26:11,600
Yeah control asks God squiggles.
I actually tried it.
466
00:26:11,600 –> 00:26:15,600
The problem is the the
Mahabharat has two million words
467
00:26:15,600 –> 00:26:19,800
long Jesus and I got 19
different sections which all
468
00:26:19,800 –> 00:26:23,100
have chapters of their own must
be hard for like Hindu like
469
00:26:23,100 –> 00:26:25,100
proselytizing.
You can’t even get that down to
470
00:26:25,100 –> 00:26:26,500
look a little orange pocket
Bible.
471
00:26:26,500 –> 00:26:28,700
Yeah.
I know I they were selling USB
472
00:26:28,700 –> 00:26:32,400
versions of it on the site.
I was looking out G it is too
473
00:26:32,400 –> 00:26:35,700
big to like Dropbox.
Yeah, exactly.
474
00:26:35,900 –> 00:26:39,900
It’s fucking email it to me, but
I look through that and I didn’t
475
00:26:39,900 –> 00:26:45,400
find this quote but they’re
there are references in that two
476
00:26:45,600 –> 00:26:49,100
things that sound like nuclear
weapons like the Masala parva,
477
00:26:49,100 –> 00:26:52,900
which is section 16 of the
Mahabharata part of that reads
478
00:26:52,900 –> 00:26:56,300
when the next day came Samba
actually brought forth an iron
479
00:26:56,300 –> 00:26:59,400
bolt through which all the
individuals in the race of the
480
00:26:59,400 –> 00:27:03,300
wrists knees and the undock has
became consumed into ashes.
481
00:27:04,200 –> 00:27:08,200
Need for the destruction of the
richness and the andhakas samba
482
00:27:08,200 –> 00:27:11,800
brought forth through that curse
of fierce iron bolt that looked
483
00:27:11,800 –> 00:27:14,100
like a gigantic messenger of
death.
484
00:27:14,100 –> 00:27:17,100
So it kind of seems like similar
to the jewels passage in Pulp
485
00:27:17,100 –> 00:27:19,900
Fiction words piece together
from several different Bible
486
00:27:19,900 –> 00:27:22,400
verses and you’re not actually
going to find it in there that
487
00:27:22,400 –> 00:27:25,300
seems like they have in the
morning magicians book sort of
488
00:27:25,300 –> 00:27:27,700
extrapolated on this piece.
Yeah.
489
00:27:28,000 –> 00:27:30,200
Yeah.
They basically that quote that
490
00:27:30,200 –> 00:27:34,000
everyone uses to back this up is
exactly what you said.
491
00:27:34,100 –> 00:27:37,300
Said them piecing together
different parts of the
492
00:27:37,300 –> 00:27:40,800
Mahabharata into one quote that
looks really damning.
493
00:27:40,800 –> 00:27:43,100
You say yeah, I was about to say
this is significantly less damn
494
00:27:43,100 –> 00:27:46,800
because it yeah, it does not
show the things that are the
495
00:27:46,800 –> 00:27:50,500
Giant Bolt of fire from the sky.
I feel like it’s a fairly right
496
00:27:50,500 –> 00:27:53,500
easy thing to imagine.
If you’re a God-fearing a person
497
00:27:53,500 –> 00:27:56,100
of you know, the Indian
subcontinent and what the fuck
498
00:27:56,100 –> 00:27:59,600
BC but then if you add the The
Winds of plague and the food’s
499
00:27:59,600 –> 00:28:02,200
infected and washing himself in
the rivers and the birds turning
500
00:28:02,200 –> 00:28:04,000
white and all that.
I feel like that though.
501
00:28:04,100 –> 00:28:07,000
Are all the details that right
sell it whereas this is just
502
00:28:07,000 –> 00:28:09,800
like that’s just copy and paste
God’s Wrath type shit.
503
00:28:10,100 –> 00:28:12,600
Yeah, and I think I can go back
and be like, well, the holy
504
00:28:12,600 –> 00:28:14,600
spirit is clearly referring to
Wi-Fi.
505
00:28:14,600 –> 00:28:17,400
I mean, they’re the same concept
is everywhere fills you with
506
00:28:17,400 –> 00:28:18,400
love.
Yeah.
507
00:28:18,400 –> 00:28:21,500
That’s that’s one of the
problems with this this theory
508
00:28:21,500 –> 00:28:25,900
is that it it’s so much of it
hinges on that passage when that
509
00:28:25,900 –> 00:28:30,000
passage is kind of I mean not
completely fake like there are
510
00:28:30,000 –> 00:28:34,600
things in the mahabharata– that
kind of correlate with Passage,
511
00:28:34,600 –> 00:28:38,600
but the fact that they pieced it
all together and tried to make
512
00:28:38,600 –> 00:28:42,300
it seem like one actual section
in that book.
513
00:28:42,300 –> 00:28:44,200
That’s explicitly about nuclear
war.
514
00:28:44,500 –> 00:28:48,500
I think that hurts their cause I
don’t know whose cause that he’s
515
00:28:48,500 –> 00:28:51,800
even is anymore because at the
end of the day who fucking
516
00:28:51,800 –> 00:28:54,300
cares.
Yeah, I mean, it’s I mean, it’s
517
00:28:54,800 –> 00:28:57,500
fun to think about and to
speculate about yeah, it is of
518
00:28:57,500 –> 00:29:00,700
no the only possible
ramifications are we need to be
519
00:29:00,700 –> 00:29:03,300
ready for when the aliens come
back with newts to settle this
520
00:29:03,300 –> 00:29:03,900
shit?
Oh, yeah.
521
00:29:04,100 –> 00:29:08,000
And yeah, and it could just as
well mean that we had nuclear
522
00:29:08,000 –> 00:29:11,600
technology at one point and lost
it and now we’ve regained it.
523
00:29:11,600 –> 00:29:13,000
I see I’ve always found that
very interesting when people
524
00:29:13,000 –> 00:29:15,100
talk about Atlantis and stuff
like that, but I just don’t
525
00:29:15,100 –> 00:29:17,800
think that there’s any way that
if a civilization got to that
526
00:29:17,800 –> 00:29:21,200
level there would be no evidence
because I mean with the ya think
527
00:29:21,200 –> 00:29:23,600
about the any of the shit in
this room is not going to
528
00:29:23,608 –> 00:29:26,700
biodegrade and you know, six
thousand years the headphones
529
00:29:26,700 –> 00:29:29,300
are going to look kind of like
some shitty headphones like the
530
00:29:29,300 –> 00:29:31,200
weather is going to be right
away or there’s gonna be a metal
531
00:29:31,200 –> 00:29:33,900
band with these weird, you know,
like yeah instrumental.
532
00:29:34,000 –> 00:29:36,900
Of the end.
So I just it’s I can’t I can’t
533
00:29:36,900 –> 00:29:39,700
buy it.
I can’t yeah and then all these
534
00:29:39,700 –> 00:29:42,100
were incinerated nuclear blast
like well how many nuclear blast
535
00:29:42,100 –> 00:29:44,500
worth if there were that many
wouldn’t we be able to see
536
00:29:44,600 –> 00:29:46,800
evidence of that?
Like yeah, wouldn’t we look like
537
00:29:46,800 –> 00:29:49,300
Mars right now?
No, that’s the other Theory.
538
00:29:49,400 –> 00:29:52,200
Oh, that was a hell of a segue.
I think I gotta give it to you.
539
00:29:52,200 –> 00:29:55,400
Yeah, I do.
I was sitting on that all show.
540
00:29:56,200 –> 00:29:58,800
Yeah, there’s another theory
that an ancient nuclear war
541
00:29:58,800 –> 00:30:02,800
destroyed all Life on Mars.
Not a Scientology a tentative
542
00:30:02,800 –> 00:30:05,100
belief now much.
Might be actually I don’t know
543
00:30:05,108 –> 00:30:06,900
if that corresponds that’s super
close.
544
00:30:07,100 –> 00:30:09,000
This one is this one is
interesting.
545
00:30:09,000 –> 00:30:12,700
The guy who came up with it is
an actual physicist.
546
00:30:12,700 –> 00:30:14,700
He works at the University of
Wisconsin.
547
00:30:15,100 –> 00:30:18,000
If you listen to him in
interviews, he gets very excited
548
00:30:18,000 –> 00:30:22,500
when someone is going to come on
to challenge him about his
549
00:30:22,500 –> 00:30:25,300
beliefs.
Yeah, like he’s very convinced
550
00:30:25,600 –> 00:30:30,600
that there was a nuclear blast
on Mars that destroyed all life.
551
00:30:30,600 –> 00:30:33,600
There’s a great article
dismissing him were almost every
552
00:30:33,600 –> 00:30:37,200
single Alfredo’s in the article
is in quotation marks there like
553
00:30:37,300 –> 00:30:42,800
a physicist from the University
of Wisconsin if that’s even a
554
00:30:42,808 –> 00:30:47,500
place nice.
Yeah, there’s a if people have a
555
00:30:47,500 –> 00:30:51,800
whole lot of time to kill
there’s a YouTube interview that
556
00:30:51,800 –> 00:30:56,500
you can go watch with this dude.
The title of the video is Mars
557
00:30:56,500 –> 00:31:00,300
was nuked interview with dr.
John Brandenburg, and it’s an
558
00:31:00,300 –> 00:31:03,900
infuriating podcast to watch
they take a commercial.
559
00:31:04,100 –> 00:31:07,500
Brakes with no commercials they
just pause and play music and
560
00:31:07,500 –> 00:31:10,300
then come back which just a
little, you know, palate
561
00:31:10,300 –> 00:31:13,400
cleanser this little break guys.
I mean you’re going to need to
562
00:31:13,400 –> 00:31:15,300
internalize a lot of hard
trance.
563
00:31:15,400 –> 00:31:18,500
All right, get your mind blown
need to relax.
564
00:31:19,000 –> 00:31:22,900
They interviewed this guy.
Dr. John Brandenburg and one of
565
00:31:22,900 –> 00:31:28,100
his Arguments for why there was
definitely a nuclear war on Mars
566
00:31:28,400 –> 00:31:32,600
is Xenon 129, which is
apparently an element.
567
00:31:32,600 –> 00:31:39,100
That’s only Found when a nuclear
reaction happens and his first
568
00:31:39,100 –> 00:31:43,800
theory was that a large
naturally occurring nuclear
569
00:31:43,800 –> 00:31:48,400
reactor formed on Mars at one
point and exploded which
570
00:31:48,400 –> 00:31:51,400
apparently that’s a thing.
Yeah clear really look into
571
00:31:51,400 –> 00:31:53,300
that.
Look natural like new apparently
572
00:31:53,300 –> 00:31:55,400
it’s happened in some small
extent on Earth.
573
00:31:55,600 –> 00:31:57,800
Yeah.
I don’t know exactly has assumed
574
00:31:57,800 –> 00:32:00,300
sounds like some kind of super
volcano type situation.
575
00:32:00,400 –> 00:32:01,800
Yeah.
There’s supposed to be one in
576
00:32:01,800 –> 00:32:02,800
Africa.
Yeah.
577
00:32:02,800 –> 00:32:06,900
That’s what I was like, okay.
Yeah like that, which yeah, I
578
00:32:06,908 –> 00:32:10,800
don’t I don’t know enough enough
about how nuclear energy works
579
00:32:11,100 –> 00:32:14,800
to wrap my head around how a
nuclear reactor would just pop
580
00:32:14,800 –> 00:32:17,000
up, you know, because it’s not
like this is not like a
581
00:32:17,008 –> 00:32:19,800
naturally occurring Simpsons
plants where they’re boiling
582
00:32:19,800 –> 00:32:21,300
water.
It’s been a turbine.
583
00:32:21,300 –> 00:32:25,300
It’s some sort of natural
reaction within the yeah
584
00:32:25,400 –> 00:32:28,800
constructive Earth’s geology
that gives off this radiation,
585
00:32:28,800 –> 00:32:32,700
right and his original theory
was that this naturally
586
00:32:32,700 –> 00:32:37,500
occurring nuclear reactor form
to explode but he later was told
587
00:32:37,500 –> 00:32:42,700
by someone that Xenon 129 is the
prevailing element that’s found
588
00:32:42,700 –> 00:32:47,200
at these nuclear hot spots that
he’s identified on Mars somehow
589
00:32:47,500 –> 00:32:51,600
and normally that would be only
be the case if a weapon was used
590
00:32:51,900 –> 00:32:56,200
so he a couple years back
changed his his theory from
591
00:32:56,400 –> 00:33:00,300
naturally occurring nuclear
reactor to Mars got hit with
592
00:33:00,300 –> 00:33:03,900
alien bombs.
Which damn that’s a leap.
593
00:33:04,200 –> 00:33:06,100
Yeah.
Well, I mean the first one I
594
00:33:06,108 –> 00:33:08,900
feel like that’s like at the
science, you know Cotillion
595
00:33:08,900 –> 00:33:10,000
party.
They’re like, oh that’s fair.
596
00:33:10,000 –> 00:33:12,100
That’s very interesting.
Mr. Bender burgo to just care to
597
00:33:12,100 –> 00:33:13,200
elaborate.
He’s like, oh, yes, you know,
598
00:33:13,200 –> 00:33:15,200
you’re showing signs of xenon 29
in the next year.
599
00:33:15,200 –> 00:33:17,300
He comes back his hair is all
fucked up.
600
00:33:17,400 –> 00:33:19,900
If you like leaves sticking out
of the pockets of his rented.
601
00:33:19,900 –> 00:33:21,300
Tux.
He’s like, all right, they’re
602
00:33:21,300 –> 00:33:23,400
coming for us next door.
Yeah.
603
00:33:23,400 –> 00:33:27,700
It’s it’s weird like you want to
just assume everything this guy
604
00:33:27,700 –> 00:33:30,100
saying is nuts.
But he’s also like he comes off
605
00:33:30,100 –> 00:33:32,700
like a really smart guy.
Yeah.
606
00:33:32,700 –> 00:33:35,800
I was reading a Listen to a
podcast that debunks this and
607
00:33:35,800 –> 00:33:40,700
he’s saying that Xenon 29 is not
especially prevalent around
608
00:33:41,400 –> 00:33:46,900
nuclear explosions, but it is a
product of the half-life of like
609
00:33:46,900 –> 00:33:47,800
iodine.
Right?
610
00:33:47,800 –> 00:33:49,800
Something is like 16 million
years.
611
00:33:49,800 –> 00:33:52,400
So in a over a long enough
period of time this will Decay
612
00:33:52,400 –> 00:33:54,700
into you know, Xenon 129.
Yeah.
613
00:33:55,000 –> 00:33:57,100
So yeah, I could be naturally
occurring.
614
00:33:57,100 –> 00:33:59,500
Yeah, it could dine.
It could be kind of similar to
615
00:33:59,500 –> 00:34:02,100
his first Theory or just you
know, something or someone has
616
00:34:02,100 –> 00:34:04,500
put some iodine him.
The Mars was getting an Ring and
617
00:34:04,500 –> 00:34:06,400
the 50s and they shut it up full
of ice.
618
00:34:07,300 –> 00:34:09,900
Is that what a no iodine was
like the old hydrogen peroxide?
619
00:34:10,300 –> 00:34:12,900
Yeah when you like isn’t that
like in Tom Sawyer like he cuts
620
00:34:12,900 –> 00:34:15,600
his arm and I like making a
burning cross and then they
621
00:34:15,600 –> 00:34:18,699
fucking put some iodine.
Uh, yeah.
622
00:34:19,000 –> 00:34:21,900
Yeah one of his one of his
things there’s no craters or
623
00:34:21,900 –> 00:34:24,400
signs of damage because one of
the things that could cause you
624
00:34:24,400 –> 00:34:27,199
know, Bill Hughes like yellows
so long ago that the fuckin the
625
00:34:27,199 –> 00:34:29,900
Sands blew it over.
You know, how windy Mars is
626
00:34:30,600 –> 00:34:33,500
because one of the things that
can cause Xenon 129 also as
627
00:34:33,500 –> 00:34:37,800
meteor, Rights, but he says
there’s no craters or damage
628
00:34:38,100 –> 00:34:41,600
near where all this radioactive
activity is.
629
00:34:42,100 –> 00:34:47,500
So his theory is that the bomb
was exploded above ground and
630
00:34:47,500 –> 00:34:51,900
what bothers me about this is
when he gets into Alton was
631
00:34:51,900 –> 00:34:53,699
trying to EMP Mars.
Yeah.
632
00:34:53,699 –> 00:34:58,400
Yeah kind of and what bothers me
is when he when you start to ask
633
00:34:58,400 –> 00:35:03,100
about like, okay.
So who why why did they bomb the
634
00:35:03,100 –> 00:35:05,600
civilization?
Mars which at one point he
635
00:35:05,600 –> 00:35:09,200
describes it as like a Bronze
Age civilization.
636
00:35:09,200 –> 00:35:11,400
Like why are you bombing them?
Just go ahead and shoot them.
637
00:35:11,400 –> 00:35:13,200
Yeah, I just take a cab over
kill.
638
00:35:13,200 –> 00:35:15,300
Yeah, you know, it’s like the
it’s like Desert Storm.
639
00:35:15,300 –> 00:35:18,700
We’re like 76 Iraqi set
Americans died and then every
640
00:35:18,700 –> 00:35:24,000
Iraqi and all he like in this
podcast at least when you bring
641
00:35:24,000 –> 00:35:28,200
that up, he’s just like a
covered in my book death on Mars
642
00:35:28,300 –> 00:35:30,800
the discovery of a planetary
nuclear Massacre.
643
00:35:31,000 –> 00:35:33,800
Well, yeah, I mean like also
tell me before I read.
644
00:35:33,900 –> 00:35:36,100
A book idiot.
Yeah, this is what this would be
645
00:35:36,100 –> 00:35:38,700
included in the blurb.
Like well the fact that he’s
646
00:35:38,700 –> 00:35:41,700
extrapolating that there was a
Bronze Age intelligent
647
00:35:41,700 –> 00:35:43,700
civilization.
I feel like it’s completely
648
00:35:43,700 –> 00:35:48,800
unfounded.
Well, yeah, especially on Mars.
649
00:35:48,900 –> 00:35:53,200
Yeah like that and what he goes
very cold there.
650
00:35:53,300 –> 00:35:57,700
Yeah, super cold what he bases a
lot of this on is like the face
651
00:35:57,700 –> 00:35:59,200
on Mars.
Oh, yeah.
652
00:35:59,200 –> 00:36:01,800
I’ve seen some of that and then
if you take a picture of it from
653
00:36:01,800 –> 00:36:05,200
a different angle the you know
modern After it’s been near
654
00:36:05,200 –> 00:36:07,600
Mars, I forget which one it was
exactly just like it’s just a
655
00:36:07,607 –> 00:36:10,800
rock that has a flattering
Shadow at one point.
656
00:36:11,000 –> 00:36:13,600
And again, it’s someone in my
thing with the you know, the
657
00:36:13,700 –> 00:36:17,000
bhagavad-gita or the other the
the Mahna Mahna poo-poo doo-doo
658
00:36:17,500 –> 00:36:19,500
where if you read enough script
you’re going to find shit that
659
00:36:19,500 –> 00:36:21,400
syncs up if you take enough
pictures of craters, you’re
660
00:36:21,400 –> 00:36:24,100
going to see a dick.
I mean, you know going read it
661
00:36:24,100 –> 00:36:26,700
and then someone watched some
clouds go by that looked like a
662
00:36:26,707 –> 00:36:28,800
guitar and that that yeah gonna
happen.
663
00:36:28,800 –> 00:36:31,900
Have you ever looked into all of
the Mars rover pictures that
664
00:36:31,900 –> 00:36:35,000
people have bought loading now,
they’re like A squirrel spotted
665
00:36:35,000 –> 00:36:37,800
on Mars like it could just be a
weird rock.
666
00:36:37,900 –> 00:36:39,900
Yeah, you never know.
Yeah, that’s probably you know,
667
00:36:40,000 –> 00:36:42,000
and if there are squirrels up
there fuck them.
668
00:36:42,100 –> 00:36:43,600
I don’t care.
Yeah stupid.
669
00:36:43,600 –> 00:36:46,800
Why are you in Mars?
Come to Earth at Starbucks down
670
00:36:46,800 –> 00:36:48,600
here?
Yeah figs grow some thumbs and
671
00:36:48,600 –> 00:36:50,100
fucking get your shit together.
All right.
672
00:36:50,100 –> 00:36:52,700
We’ll keep a keep a tree ready
for you fucking losers.
673
00:36:53,200 –> 00:36:57,200
One thing about this guy and I’m
serious about this we should get
674
00:36:57,200 –> 00:37:01,100
him on this podcast a hundred
percent because he does every
675
00:37:01,100 –> 00:37:03,800
interview put in front of him.
Yeah like there.
676
00:37:04,000 –> 00:37:07,400
Our stories out there feel like
I could reach out to him with
677
00:37:07,400 –> 00:37:10,800
for grammatical errors in a
Yahoo account and get a detailed
678
00:37:10,800 –> 00:37:12,300
response.
We could probably get them on
679
00:37:12,300 –> 00:37:14,700
the phone before we stop
recording right now.
680
00:37:14,700 –> 00:37:18,500
Oh, yeah, but I feel like he’s
got a Google Voice number and he
681
00:37:18,500 –> 00:37:21,000
doesn’t have a lot to do during
the day since the university cut
682
00:37:21,000 –> 00:37:24,900
him down to teaching one class a
every other semester one class
683
00:37:24,900 –> 00:37:27,700
about nuclear war on Mars
another great you get tenure as
684
00:37:27,700 –> 00:37:29,900
a professor and they’ll God we
got to shuffle this guy off to
685
00:37:29,900 –> 00:37:32,500
the side and we’re overpaying on
but we can’t have the parents
686
00:37:32,500 –> 00:37:33,800
coming to touring like, is that
the Mars?
687
00:37:33,900 –> 00:37:36,900
War guy yeah.
Yeah, let me show you the voting
688
00:37:36,900 –> 00:37:39,700
machines try this because we got
an excellent Jim here on campus.
689
00:37:40,000 –> 00:37:43,000
He’s selling T-shirts on the
side Mars was Bob.
690
00:37:44,000 –> 00:37:48,700
Yeah, we definitely need to try
and get this guy on the podcast
691
00:37:48,900 –> 00:37:51,700
because it I’m be interesting to
see how he responds to some of
692
00:37:51,700 –> 00:37:54,900
these, you know iodine thinks
that I’m this quoting from
693
00:37:54,900 –> 00:37:57,500
smarter people.
Yeah, there are there is a lot
694
00:37:57,500 –> 00:38:01,200
out there debunking this I feel
like I want to read his book.
695
00:38:01,200 –> 00:38:03,800
I that’s the thing is like I’m
tempted to read this but it’s
696
00:38:03,900 –> 00:38:06,100
Almost feel like with the
investment of reading a book.
697
00:38:06,100 –> 00:38:07,900
I could just read something
that’s actually going to
698
00:38:07,900 –> 00:38:10,700
definitely make me smarter.
You know, this is like this is
699
00:38:10,700 –> 00:38:13,500
like eight hours to like shit
shit on a movie.
700
00:38:13,500 –> 00:38:15,300
It’s two hours of your time.
You watch it with a friend.
701
00:38:15,300 –> 00:38:16,900
It’s right, but you just you
alone with it.
702
00:38:16,908 –> 00:38:21,300
Like this is bullshit quietly in
your stocking cap, like
703
00:38:21,600 –> 00:38:23,500
highlighting shit so big
investment.
704
00:38:23,500 –> 00:38:27,700
So yeah, if nothing else just so
he can have a committed internet
705
00:38:27,700 –> 00:38:30,400
blurb for some of his
justification for this not just
706
00:38:30,400 –> 00:38:31,600
a read the book.
Yeah.
707
00:38:31,900 –> 00:38:34,800
Yeah, I think we’ll do that.
It was a fun episode.
708
00:38:34,800 –> 00:38:38,700
We should wrap it up.
Well, yeah Alias good time good
709
00:38:38,700 –> 00:38:40,700
times.
Yeah, I think I don’t think it
710
00:38:41,100 –> 00:38:44,500
I’m definitely not sold on this
as Nephi are as much as I want
711
00:38:44,500 –> 00:38:47,700
to be because I mean this this
shit is all you know, in terms
712
00:38:47,700 –> 00:38:50,000
of thread ban Radice fuck super
red.
713
00:38:50,000 –> 00:38:52,100
Yeah.
I want to see a hella dope.
714
00:38:52,100 –> 00:38:55,800
Yeah, but like last week with
the Oklahoma City thing.
715
00:38:55,800 –> 00:38:58,800
There were at least a couple
there’s a lot of loose ends that
716
00:38:58,800 –> 00:39:02,000
are stuff in there very
troubling, you know, and this
717
00:39:02,000 –> 00:39:06,400
just 363 suicide.
Two suicides you no shame on me
718
00:39:06,600 –> 00:39:11,700
three government cover-up.
This just seems like a bunch of
719
00:39:11,700 –> 00:39:16,500
space nerds kind of arguing over
their interpretation of data
720
00:39:16,500 –> 00:39:18,800
that no one gives a shit about
what the thing about like, you
721
00:39:18,800 –> 00:39:22,600
know space shit is just by
virtue of how expensive it is to
722
00:39:22,600 –> 00:39:26,200
launch probes and satellites and
fucking you know, yeah land on
723
00:39:26,300 –> 00:39:29,300
other other bodies in the solar
system even much less outside of
724
00:39:29,300 –> 00:39:31,500
our solar system.
You have a very limited amount
725
00:39:31,500 –> 00:39:35,400
of concrete data, right?
So I mean, you know the it’s not
726
00:39:35,400 –> 00:39:38,100
like something like geology real
I can go up to Death Valley and
727
00:39:38,100 –> 00:39:40,400
just start digging and fucking
yeah, but, you know find out in
728
00:39:40,400 –> 00:39:43,200
six months.
So people they get so excited
729
00:39:43,200 –> 00:39:46,800
and the shit so interesting and
it’s tied to pieces of media
730
00:39:46,800 –> 00:39:49,300
that affect people’s lives.
They just extrapolate the
731
00:39:49,300 –> 00:39:51,600
wildest conclusions, right?
Because they’re just waiting for
732
00:39:51,600 –> 00:39:54,900
the mailman awaiting for that
fucking series probe to land on
733
00:39:54,900 –> 00:39:58,000
that Port plan to bring back
some ice samples, you know, so
734
00:39:58,000 –> 00:39:59,300
they just they just go over
excited.
735
00:39:59,300 –> 00:40:02,600
I think that it’s just like, you
know, yeah, it’s fun to think
736
00:40:02,600 –> 00:40:05,000
about but I mean it It’s
something that I would want to
737
00:40:05,000 –> 00:40:08,900
put a paper out and you know
justify another jeopardize my
738
00:40:08,900 –> 00:40:13,000
fucking yeah reputation the map,
you know, I would that should be
739
00:40:13,000 –> 00:40:16,200
like the Marvel like what if
Comics like what if Galactus was
740
00:40:16,200 –> 00:40:19,300
gay like, oh God, it sounds like
a fun read that for five cents
741
00:40:19,300 –> 00:40:22,800
and 1963, but I don’t know if I
want to put it out there
742
00:40:22,800 –> 00:40:23,900
officially.
Yeah.
743
00:40:24,300 –> 00:40:26,300
All right, let’s let’s wrap it
up.
744
00:40:26,400 –> 00:40:28,900
Yeah sometimes yeah, we can get
the fuck out of here.
745
00:40:28,900 –> 00:40:30,700
I got to record two more things
today.
746
00:40:31,000 –> 00:40:33,500
Do you have anything to plug
before we get out of here?
747
00:40:33,800 –> 00:40:37,200
Just my podcast mean boys too
scripted comedy podcast with a
748
00:40:37,200 –> 00:40:38,900
you know, I stutter on that one
too.
749
00:40:38,900 –> 00:40:41,400
And yeah, we had lots of games
and jokes and sketches and
750
00:40:41,400 –> 00:40:42,500
whatnot.
And it’s very fun.
751
00:40:42,600 –> 00:40:45,800
Lots of Keith carry he’s doing
now, let’s cast tomorrow.
752
00:40:45,800 –> 00:40:47,000
Oh, that’ll be fun.
Yeah.
753
00:40:47,000 –> 00:40:50,000
Yeah, he’s got a huge he’s pop
culture guy.
754
00:40:50,000 –> 00:40:52,600
So I mean, he’s good at least
he’s yeah, that would be good
755
00:40:52,600 –> 00:40:54,900
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756
00:40:55,000 –> 00:40:58,500
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757
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758
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759
00:41:04,100 –> 00:41:08,400
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760
00:41:08,400 –> 00:41:12,600
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761
00:41:12,600 –> 00:41:15,000
it going to wrap it up so I can
start setting up for the next
762
00:41:15,000 –> 00:41:17,700
recording Connor say goodbye.
Goodbye.
763
00:41:17,900 –> 00:41:18,600
Goodbye.
Everybody.
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00:41:18,600 –> 00:41:19,000
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