Conspiracy! The Show CIA Influence On The Media

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Welcome to conspiracy the show
with your host, Adam Todd Brown

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and Connor mcspadden.
Hey everybody, Welcome to

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conspiracy the show.
I’m Adam Todd Brown.

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I’m here to Connor, that’s
meaner.

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I was thinking about the
conspiracy, the shit like that.

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Yeah, there’s a I like to say it
like a game show.

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Like we’re all going to win
something.

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If the CIA taps our phones by
the end of this, here’s what you

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win.
A vague sense of malaise at the

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world around you.
That’s behind the Every single

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curtain and we do we have a lady
that could points at it and it’s

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just a nothing.
And she’s like exactly.

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Yeah that’s what’s going to say.
CIA field agent.

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Yeah.
And we have guests today.

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How much fun is that?
Who are you?

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I’m Laura Crawford.
What you found these podcast

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before?
Uh-huh.

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Not this one in particular, but
you’re also on next week’s,

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right?
Yes, I am on next week’s and I

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sit looking at my emails phone
email. 2014 is the first time we

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did a show together.
I put podcast together.

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Oh my God, I know it’s been a
long time for years.

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That’s the, what’s that?
The wood anniversary.

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Yeah yeah yeah.
It’s when anime puts me in my

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misery beats me with a.
Yeah I for I was actually just

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gonna I wasn’t making much more
in the way of like a Filipino

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Barrel man.
You know, that would be a good

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if you ever seen those.
It’s a traditional Filipino gift

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where they have a little man.
There’s a barrel inside and you

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give it to someone and you lift
up the barrel and he has a

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spring-loaded dick buddy.
CJ, I gave me one from the

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Philippines in eighth grade and
I’m like in the in passing

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period I’m just like what the
bill, you know.

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Real mature.
The Philippines, real mature?

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Yeah, with you.
That is the most heinous thing

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happening in the Philippines.
And I do look, I respect the

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Philippines because they have
the closest thing to an anime

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government because Manny
Pacquiao was a Senator.

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So if pugilism qualifies you for
public service, that’s pretty

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much Dragon Ball in my mind and
I think that’s probably a more

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Equitable political system than,
you know what we have in most, I

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want have Dragon Ball to get
those references.

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Leanne Tucker, how are you
doing?

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We know this fighting The most
basic you know Hot Topic

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Spencer’s Gifts, you know the
the fuck.

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Exactly.
Yeah we’re gonna aim to see

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Laura.
We’re talking about the new

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Broly movie coming out in
November and I have a lot of

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thoughts.
That’s there’s have been asking

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and I’m sorry, Lee Ann that’s
not – that’s stretching Lee

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Anne.
This is your first time on any

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on pops podcast.
That is correct how excited must

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you be right now, early.
That’s how You were.

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Yeah, that was the past two
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Everyone has been either right
on time or kind of early and

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it’s so refreshing.
This is the first podcast Adam

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and I have not rescheduled.
We had we yeah.

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We’ve scheduled just about 80%
of the podcast.

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Yeah, even now that we’re
recording on the same day every

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day.
Sometimes I’ll message Connor in

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the morning and be like, how
about noon instead?

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Yeah, yeah, of course I had a
lot of high dog time.

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Last night, it’s through off,
you know, you’ll fucking

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circadian rhythm.
So, we’re talking King this week

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like we do almost every week.
We’re talking about the CIA.

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We it seems like they come up
weirdly enough they come up on

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this conspiracy podcast pretty
regularly.

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Yeah, I don’t know how that that
fucking shook out but it did.

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Yeah really weird.
And we’re talking this week,

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specifically about the CIA
influence, in both, the media

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and the entertainment industry
which we’ve talked about that a

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lot as it pertains to music.
There is a book that I recommend

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on almost every episode called
drugs as As Weapons against us.

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And it’s all about how the CIA
sells drugs and uses the music

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industry to push those drugs.
And sometimes they have to kill

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musicians who don’t fall in line
with their plans.

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Yeah, I want one of those.
That’s why that’s why the Green

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Day, cigarettes and Valentine’s
fucking Masters were stolen.

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It’s because that’s when Billy
Joe got really into socialism,

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right?
And they thought they were going

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to radicalize an entire
generation of Mallrats to

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fucking start marching in the
streets and they’re like, no,

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thank you.
Going to make a pretty

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watered-down neoliberal rock
opera and you’re going to like

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it if you like having kids that
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Wow guy with a black fan and a
briefcase showed up and was like

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you got some decisions to make
here?

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Mike burnt.
All right I’m going to speak

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slowly because I’m pretty sure
you’re the dumb one.

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So one of the things we’re
basing, this episode on today is

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a crazy article.
I found that was written by Carl

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Bernstein, who is one of the
Watergate reporters and by the

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way, we have a sub conspiracy, I
thought it was Berenstain.

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This is the IRA fucking remember
with my fucking.

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Oh yeah, damn eyes.
And then went one night, some

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guy.
Andrea.

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I clearly recall, me and Connor
watching Watergate coverage as

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it was happening and it said,
Carl, but we did.

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I was sitting on Adams left, as
you research, these shows

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exactly.
He’s bouncing me up and down it

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was 1973.
Mmm.

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We work on these for a long time
and a lot of really heavy

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glassware that we use for making
roasts, you know.

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Yeah.
This has been a lifelong

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Pursuit.
With Carl Bernstein, the one who

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is married to heart.
No, Brooke.

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Movie heartburn with the no, no,
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Streep and Jack Nicholson.
It’s the woman who wrote All the

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romantic comedies?
I look this up, like going.

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Hey, yeah, no, I have no idea
but it wouldn’t surprise me that

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Carl Bernstein was married to
someone at one point.

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No, it was a screenwriter.
I mean, who doesn’t love a good

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journalist.
Yeah, and this article like a

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lot of the stuff he’s written is
like really famous and we know

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all about it but this probably
only because the CIA does

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control, the media just didn’t
get that much attention.

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No, which is crazy because it’s
a 25,000 word article about CIA

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influence in the media.
You are really, you are rich.

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You just handed me the heartburn
film.

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Wikipedia page Bernstein, sorry,
it’s a Carl Bernstein’s.

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Marriage to Nora Ephron, he was
married to Nora Ephron and she

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wrote a wrote a screenplay to
movie about be married him, and

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makes him look like a real piece
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But he’s married to the Lady,
that helps people.

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If they have allergies, I don’t
know.

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I don’t know.
A lot of famous say, you know, a

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famous athlete, and Julia, you
no love lost.

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So more all.
That’s those married to a

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big-ass molecule and he’s all
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I love my molecule wife, Laura
and Leanne both you.

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Both asked to be on this episode
that I sent out an email, at the

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beginning of the month, and
said, here’s the topics.

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We’re talking about.
So preferably one at a time, not

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not both at the same time.
Tell me why you wanted to be on

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this episode.
Laura go first.

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I love conspiracies in the CIA
in particular and I’ve been

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doing some research and going to
do an episode for profiles about

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1985, the year of the spy.
And when you get into a lot of

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spy stuff, it’s about eight top
agents, that were revealed to be

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spies in the for the for the US
for the Communists and doing a

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lot of research into Russia, and
basically the Cold War, the

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Soviets spying.
Yeah, very interesting to me.

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I wish those fuckers at spied
harder, Leo.

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What about you?
I am very interested in

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conspiracy stuff, my dad, like I
grew up with my dad being like,

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you know, Kennedy assassination
right around, and then, you

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know, 9/11 and all that.
And I was like deep diving on

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the internet and, and getting
weird.

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And so usually, I don’t have
people to discuss these things

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with without them being like,
okay, Lance mock another, you

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know what I mean?
So, I was like, what, like they

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want to talk about it, but now
you’re not like, I have, you

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know, a shit ton of facts or
anything, but I liked him, using

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the ideas.
If you ever have a conspiracy

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on, On your mind.
You can definitely message me.

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I will entertain those
conversations.

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Yeah, yeah.
Actually, Adam volunteers for

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the conspiracy guy hotline.
Yeah.

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Lonely truckers are like, I’m
pretty sure.

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I cracked the whole Tower
seventh day but nobody on.

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CB wants to listen to me.
They’re just concerned with

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which Dairy Queen has the
shortest line.

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I just need somebody to get the
truth out to in atoms.

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Like, hey, what?
Whoa, whoa.

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Calm down.
Yeah, yeah.

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If you feel like I called you,
if you feel like someone’s

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watching, you call me and I’ll
confirm that they are ya.

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I also can send you like music
videos of 9/11 truthers and

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stuff like that.
That I have there’s a million

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reasons why I don’t believe it
there are nine eleven truth or

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music videos.
Yeah well that’s an upcoming

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episode for us not since I
discovered blink, 1488 182 white

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power.
Parity group, where they just

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superimpose like Benjamin
Netanyahu on to like the fucking

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Blink-182 Kaizen change.
All the words to be about Jews,

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have I been so.
Excited to watch something

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Hebrews.
No.

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Yeah I miss you.
I know I miss you is called the

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Jew is pretty.
That was nice.

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It’s pretty, it’s not great.
So this is the opening article

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from that paragraph and what
he’s writing about as a thing

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called operation Mockingbird,
which we’ll get into more in a

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minute, the plot to get Eminem
addicted to drugs because it

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knows I’m not gonna stop
derailing.

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This are no, that’s I, I’ve done
this podcast before Works, he

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knows who you are.
This is the opening paragraph

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from Article in 1953 Joseph
alsop, then one of America’s

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leading syndicated columnist,
went to the Philippines to cover

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an election.
He did not go because he was

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asked to do so by his Syndicate
he did not go because he was

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asked to do so by the newspapers
that printed his column, he went

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at the request of the CIA.
Hell?

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Yeah, that’s the kind of shit.
I like to read and under.

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Now how do they contact you like
what’s the cia’s move?

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I don’t know.
IG on a podcast and then you

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have a little conversation.
I feel like Look at the CIA

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reached out to me and they’re
like, okay, we need you to get

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ran disease.
You back on me, boys.

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For some questioning, you know
there, you’ll be rewarded him.

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Like I would not believe that.
It wasn’t just somebody fucking

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with me.
Yeah, no I don’t I don’t know

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how legit you have to like see a
helicopter or something.

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They could even show me like CIA
credentials and I’d be like.

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Yeah that’s probably what those
are flat and I don’t fuck yeah,

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I don’t have a goddamn scan
image IGG, you know, it’s like I

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take me in a helicopter and then
we’ll talk.

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You talk about like recruiting
agents, it From looking at my

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the stuff.
I’ve looked into about spies the

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way, they do it.
The way that appealed to people

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both in the Soviets in the u.s.
is they usually have somebody

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that you know in common.
So like if they were trying to

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get you Connor they would they
would already know somebody that

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you knew, okay?
Would already know somebody that

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you knew who’s kind of higher up
who you trusted?

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That’s why, that’s why I don’t
have friends and that’s it.

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So they would say hi.
They would say, hey there, your

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friend would probably go to you
and say I have a friend who

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works at this agency.
It’s very hush-hush.

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It’s really important.
Would you want to contact them?

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And what all seem, very casual,
very sort of business, and

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normal like, and when they were
making the pitch to you, they

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wouldn’t say go do this and do
this and will give you lots of

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money, they would say, like we
have you ever thought about like

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helping out your country, like,
it’s really trying to give me

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the porn, you know that you have
you ever considered some

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modeling?
You need a ride and I feel like

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I kind of do need a ride.
Yeah, I mean I’m just like a

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would be like, like what do you
ever think about?

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Like helping out your country?
I just want to know why with my

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STD pensee but gentlemen, pick
me up.

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The thing is, that’s how it
probably works now.

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No that’s how it’s always worked
with the Soviets used to say.

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Do you want to help World?
Peace, do you want to advance?

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No but what the difference is,
what happened with operation

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Mockingbird, they didn’t just
casually go to people and say,

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hey you want to help, they like
signed work contracts.

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So they did afterwards, but
Making a noise people but making

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initial man.
I gotta be an Endeavor on our

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contractor for Postmates and the
CIA.

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Yeah, yeah, I know, but I fuck
your taxes.

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All out till you’re like, yeah,
there is never a hard sell

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because it has to seem very
normal to you.

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Like, you’re part of the
operation.

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I think that’s what I was
saying.

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Get we are in 99 for
infiltrating ISIS.

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Come on, most people don’t even
do it for money.

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Most people who work for the CIA
or work for the Soviets.

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I like times.
They’re not Money Motivated.

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It’s right.
Thank you ego.

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It’s usually an ego thing that
you feel like you’re yeah trip.

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I’m so important.
Yeah, they came and talked to

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me.
And so in this article Bernstein

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claimed alsop, was one of more
than 400 American journalists

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who secretly carried out
assignments for the CIA over the

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past 25 years at that point.
So we’re talking from the 50s

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through the 70s and some of the
executives who lent their

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cooperation to the CIA William
Paley at CBS Henry Luce at time

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Incorporated.
Arthur Hays.

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Sulzberger at the New York
Times, Barry Bingham senior at

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Louisville Courier-Journal.
Best banjo player in Kentucky.

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James notley of the Copley news
service and some companies who

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did the same American
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Press United, Press
International, Reuters Hearst

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newspaper, Scripps, Howard, the
company that bought cracked

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months after I wrote one of the
first articles comparing Trump

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to Hitler, so maybe that’s maybe
I got cracked shut down by the

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CIA for getting too close to the
truth about Donald Trump which

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Fine with.
I’m nervous to leave here.

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Now, this whole.
Oh yeah.

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Wait till the Mike’s turn off
and he starts to get drinking

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until and Suge Knight story.
So that’s when you really well.

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Yeah.
Scripts also owns Discovery,

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networks Food, Network’s, right,
GTV all kinds of.

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I’m sure they’ve ended their
association with the CIA by now

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they could shut down.
The Diners Club caused thousands

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of damages to the United States
economy, and also Newsweek and

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the Miami Herald.
And he claimed that CIA

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involvement with the media was
way more.

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Or extensive than anyone had
ever publicly claimed.

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And this article, it doesn’t
include a lot of names but it

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includes examples of things.
The, the CIA did in relation to

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the media and it all seems
really believable.

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It’s not like for one thing
Bernstein is a valid source.

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Yeah he does his research when
he writes about something and

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just like all of the MKUltra
shit this is mostly based off

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CIA documents that were
Declassified in that we found

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like through the church
committee and It like that.

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Mmm so you basically just feel
like we need the Gin up some

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interest over here you know so
we can we got to do a little

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misdirection.
So go put on a thong in the

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chat.
Show off the box that the guys

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going to get cut in half in and
did, which is in this case, the

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Philippines, you know.
And then while we while you’re

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doing that, I’m gonna look
bottom eyes children.

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That was a complex analogy right
there with that analogy.

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I thought it was a vivid
description of like, a David

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Lynch movie.
It was a dream I had.

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So basically what this article
also alleges is that the

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relationship with the media
allowed the CIA to post, some of

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its most valuable operatives
abroad without exposure.

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For more than two decades in
most instances officials, at the

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highest levels of the CIA,
usually director, or deputy

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director dealt personally with a
single designated individual in

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the top management of the
cooperating news organization.

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And that’s a thing.
I’ve been saying, probably

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happens for a long time.
Yeah.

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Get a point man.
Yeah, because there are a lot of

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stories.
If you, especially if you read

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overseas news sources, you’ll
find a lot of really huge

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stories that should be huge in
the United States and they’re

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just not know and like one looks
like easy to track it up to like

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I don’t know.
Like cultural narcissism where

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we think that yeah, American
culture is global culture, which

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is true to an extent, you know,
because of our being a thumbs

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that having been on this scale
of everything for, you know, the

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100 years or so.
But it does it’s also like well

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yeah, they’re also fucking with
it.

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You know, that doesn’t mean
they’re not all so fucking with

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ya.
I think a good example right now

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is Reuters did an investigation
of water sources in the United

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States.
Ha ha ha and found something

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like 3,000 more communities that
have the same water problems,

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Flint has.
And that’s not getting a lot of

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coverage in the US media and it
seems like it should but it also

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can about Flint.
Well yeah they made a fucking

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movie where people Their water
on fire out of the tap.

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And, and that was the most
stunning.

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It is called David, Blaine is an
amazing film, where the a

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shocking expose, you gotta watch
the video, not the fucking David

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Blaine.
Special is the most recent one

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where he swallows a fish in
front of Woody Allen and then

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parse it into a bathtub.
It’s the guard.

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What happened would be not have
has the greatest shit of.

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Yeah, that’s some Steve.
Oh shit, it’s the well, could

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you do it then?
It’s a trick.

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I’m sorry.
But this man trained his body to

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puke goldfish, we have no
respect for that.

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I do people denied in the 30s
and she’ll time.

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Swallowing goldfish, I’m saying,
but there’s no way that was back

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before.
We knew science, this man is

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just like, yeah, this is
definitely bad for me, but it’s

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gonna do was gonna freeze
himself, but I just seen a just

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seems as though.
It’s like David Blaine in

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Encino, Man, Pauly, Shore must
befriend, but the thing about

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the Reuters article that does
strike me as something where if

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a major news Outlet wanted to
report it, Some government type

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might step in and go.
No, you can’t write do that

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because that’s that’s almost
like Alien Invasion.

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Shit.
Like it’s one thing to think,

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Flint has shitty water.
But if we all all of a sudden

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start thinking, we have the same
problems with our water.

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It would be fucking chaos across
the country.

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Oh yeah.
Well, I also could see them

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being like, all right.
Look you can’t cover this.

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We’re not going to give you the
n-word tape.

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We will give you an r word, all
right?

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You can have fun with that for a
week, will say it’s fake.

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You’ll say it’s real wall.
Go around a circle.

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It’s gonna be wall-to-wall
coverage, all right?

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You get a, it’ll be great.
So just those Butterball, but

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the thing in this case, it’s
like these journals.

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You make it sound very
nefarious, but this is the same

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way that journalists collaborate
with the police all the time to

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get information about cases.
And doesn’t that doesn’t that

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kind of, you know, make them
very biased towards.

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Well, that’s not the police
withholding information from the

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American public.
Oh no.

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I’m just saying that we were
talking about.

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Like, why do journalist kind of
get in this or choose to

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cooperate with these people?
It’s just because that’s, that’s

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what they do.
They Don’t think it sums up our

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just because of that, at least,
I mean, maybe on the journalist

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side, but I’m not, like, I’m not
arguing that the journalists are

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the Shady ones here know, like
it’s the CIA in most cases, of

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course there’s.
And the thing is that it’s not

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like I get why this happens and
I get why people would

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participate in it, but it does
also lead to some problems and

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things that we should know about
that are covered up and like

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especially with the MKUltra
thing.

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Like we got enough information
at As to where the CIA had to be

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like, yeah it happened but it
didn’t happen on his wide of a

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scale as people thought.
And then finally, these other

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20,000 documents came out and
they were like, all right, it

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was pretty pretty wise.
Someone they kept a man high on

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acid for like 70 days.
Can see ya, Emily.

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Yeah, a guy threw himself out of
a window because he was very

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tortured on acid.
They threw him out of that way.

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Yeah, really.
You think so, the worm are you

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talk about the wormwood case.
Have you watched the

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documentary?
I have watched a documentary,

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very clearly.
I heard him because he was going

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to.
Oh, yeah.

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Expose the fact that we use
chemical weapons.

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If you look at the Canadian
current records, it’s pretty cut

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and dried on the scene.
Oh no, I’m just saying if I

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totally even without that I
understand if you were kept on

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acid in like a bunker for 70
days.

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Yeah you would want to kill
yourself.

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They both report where you are
horrible outcome or you would

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make a causing photo albums and
yeah.

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And so this the operation
Mockingbird thing was The first

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exposed in a 1967, ramparts
magazine article that revealed

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that the National Student
Association received funding

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from the CIA and that’s the
other part.

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So, but what does that look
like?

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I was reading that like new
baseball uniforms or what?

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Yeah, I don’t know.
Like, what is it that the

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National Student Association is
doing.

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They’re just putting out stuff
about how in 1967 I imagine they

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were probably going know, this
war is fine, well protest or

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stay in your dorm room.
Still try it.

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Okay, so sort of tell ya, I go
to class.

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Yeah, keep business as usual in
its for the CIA, an organization

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that’s supposed to operate on
foreign soil, only, the fact

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that they would be giving money
to a US base Student Association

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is that alone is suspect because
they’re not supposed to do that.

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Now, they’re not supposed to
operate, but can I play Devil’s

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Advocate and defend the CIA?
And a lot of, there’s nothing, I

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love more than a devil’s
advocate, go for it.

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Okay, here’s the thing at this
time in the, in the 50s and 40s.

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The stuff, the u.s. is competing
with the Soviets, right?

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The Soviets have a totalitarian
government with no real

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immigration allowed into the
country.

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The government controls
journalism, controls all the

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education, controls, the
military and everything.

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Like, so we’re trying to compete
with them and they’ve had a spy

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Network since this days of the
Czar.

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That’s extremely complex.
And so they were way ahead of us

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on information, and spine, way
ahead on information gathering

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all forms of way, ahead on
propaganda and indoctrination of

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students in the military and all
forms of life.

432
00:21:25,200 –> 00:21:27,200
So we’re basically trying to
play catch-up.

433
00:21:27,300 –> 00:21:31,500
So the Soviets were most likely
going to Target student groups

434
00:21:31,500 –> 00:21:34,400
and journalists as people.
They wanted to infiltrate to

435
00:21:34,400 –> 00:21:37,200
turn to agents for them.
So it’s almost like the CIA had

436
00:21:37,200 –> 00:21:40,000
to get in there early to get
these people on their side.

437
00:21:40,000 –> 00:21:42,600
So that because journalists and
people in the media and students

438
00:21:42,600 –> 00:21:46,300
are all very susceptible to
Arguments for socialism and

439
00:21:46,300 –> 00:21:49,600
through for communism, all of
this is like 20%, anything the

440
00:21:49,600 –> 00:21:52,200
Soviets did at the same time.
So everyone felt justified in

441
00:21:52,200 –> 00:21:55,100
doing it’s not right.
But it’s okay as Whitney Houston

442
00:21:55,100 –> 00:21:56,100
would say.
Yeah.

443
00:21:56,300 –> 00:21:59,600
So after all of this came out,
After the church committee which

444
00:21:59,600 –> 00:22:03,600
exposed MKUltra and this to some
extent, the CIA was like, all

445
00:22:03,600 –> 00:22:05,100
right, we’re not going to do
that anymore.

446
00:22:05,500 –> 00:22:10,300
We’re not you can trust me.
Yeah, trust, we’ve stopped all

447
00:22:10,300 –> 00:22:12,000
of this.
As when we found weed in the

448
00:22:12,000 –> 00:22:14,000
cia’s room and they’re like, you
know what?

449
00:22:14,000 –> 00:22:17,800
I was having a face friend.
I did try so myself.

450
00:22:18,300 –> 00:22:22,300
And the thing is it they didn’t
actually they didn’t even say

451
00:22:22,300 –> 00:22:25,000
they were going to stop.
All they said was well we’re not

452
00:22:25,000 –> 00:22:27,800
going to enter into work
contracts or like free.

453
00:22:28,000 –> 00:22:30,900
It’s contracts with journalists
even keep records anymore.

454
00:22:30,900 –> 00:22:33,500
We’ll do it all off.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

455
00:22:33,600 –> 00:22:36,100
If you have such a problem with
us doing this we just walked

456
00:22:36,100 –> 00:22:39,000
right out of ya.
My favorite detail are also

457
00:22:39,000 –> 00:22:40,500
reading.
This was how like basically

458
00:22:40,500 –> 00:22:43,000
journalism has fallen apart and
now everyone’s freelance

459
00:22:43,000 –> 00:22:45,800
industry or in like almost no
one is a desk, a journalist or

460
00:22:45,800 –> 00:22:48,700
has a title or role like that.
So it almost works better for

461
00:22:48,700 –> 00:22:50,400
them where they’re like,
everyone’s free late so they

462
00:22:50,400 –> 00:22:51,400
see.
I must be real shit.

463
00:22:51,400 –> 00:22:53,500
Everyone’s freelance killer.
I love it.

464
00:22:54,300 –> 00:22:56,000
Yeah, yeah.
There’s your fucking just

465
00:22:56,000 –> 00:22:58,700
nothing but marks I know they
just turned Postmates to the

466
00:22:58,708 –> 00:23:01,900
drivers until agent.
Tell us where you drive to tell

467
00:23:01,900 –> 00:23:04,100
us where you deliver to, that’s
what on Earth have you been

468
00:23:04,100 –> 00:23:06,500
approached by the CIA?
No, I also haven’t done

469
00:23:06,500 –> 00:23:10,500
Postmates in a long time.
So my question about this, is

470
00:23:10,500 –> 00:23:13,000
this a bad thing.
Like do we want the CIA out

471
00:23:13,000 –> 00:23:15,900
there doing this?
No, no, we don’t.

472
00:23:15,900 –> 00:23:19,800
Yeah, I don’t I think as it
pertains like I don’t mind the

473
00:23:19,800 –> 00:23:23,400
CIA fucking with overseas news
Publications.

474
00:23:23,500 –> 00:23:25,800
Yeah.
And trying to infiltrate that

475
00:23:25,800 –> 00:23:30,300
shit but here like their job
Yeah, but here, I don’t like it

476
00:23:30,300 –> 00:23:33,500
that much because that that was
the whole point of this program.

477
00:23:33,900 –> 00:23:38,300
It wasn’t just to influence
media overseas, which is where

478
00:23:38,300 –> 00:23:40,700
the Communist organization was
operating.

479
00:23:40,700 –> 00:23:43,800
They were trying to influence
public sentiment in Europe.

480
00:23:43,800 –> 00:23:46,900
So, the CIA was like, oh well,
let’s do that here and we’ll

481
00:23:46,900 –> 00:23:50,400
just try and confuse people in
the United States and I don’t

482
00:23:50,400 –> 00:23:52,200
like that.
I don’t know if that’s a good

483
00:23:52,200 –> 00:23:53,600
thing.
Well, usually when they act,

484
00:23:53,600 –> 00:23:56,200
like it’s all of, you know, the
other countries that do the

485
00:23:56,200 –> 00:23:57,800
propaganda and it’s only here in
America.

486
00:23:57,900 –> 00:23:59,800
Erica where you get the you
know, right.

487
00:23:59,800 –> 00:24:02,400
Well yeah.
If you’re truth like it’s like

488
00:24:02,400 –> 00:24:04,200
you’re talking about the water
like talk about like, you know,

489
00:24:04,200 –> 00:24:06,900
taking pic of think of that it
but it’s sources of information.

490
00:24:06,900 –> 00:24:09,200
If there’s fucking lead in all
of them to some degree.

491
00:24:09,200 –> 00:24:12,200
It’s like what you know, that’s
like that’s a definition of

492
00:24:12,208 –> 00:24:13,500
propaganda.
Bring up all the time on the

493
00:24:13,508 –> 00:24:15,700
show which is, you know, to
exhaust critical thinking and

494
00:24:15,700 –> 00:24:17,600
annihilate the truth.
And it’s like, that’s kind of

495
00:24:17,600 –> 00:24:20,500
what this is.
It’s to a point is like I will

496
00:24:20,500 –> 00:24:22,700
maybe I don’t know why they’re
fucking why are we talking about

497
00:24:22,700 –> 00:24:24,300
that?
You know, it’s like is the guy

498
00:24:24,300 –> 00:24:26,500
that picks the top Twitter
moment to pops up when you look

499
00:24:26,500 –> 00:24:28,300
on your phone as is he getting
Phone call.

500
00:24:28,300 –> 00:24:31,600
It’s like, hey look I know he
just signed the NAFTA thing but

501
00:24:31,600 –> 00:24:35,400
just I don’t know, Beyonce
winked so just make a gift.

502
00:24:35,400 –> 00:24:38,600
Pretended that was a sensation
and then just fucking can we

503
00:24:38,600 –> 00:24:41,800
bury this a little bit?
Like I don’t like that at all.

504
00:24:42,000 –> 00:24:45,900
Yeah well it’s also you you’re
not going to see any journalist

505
00:24:45,900 –> 00:24:48,100
ever say like.
And while I was working on this

506
00:24:48,100 –> 00:24:51,000
story I talked to a CIA age,
right?

507
00:24:51,000 –> 00:24:53,000
So journalists aren’t going to
give it up and the CIA is not

508
00:24:53,000 –> 00:24:55,100
going to give it up so we’ll
never find out what the true

509
00:24:55,100 –> 00:24:57,300
extent is on the reporting or
vice versa.

510
00:24:57,400 –> 00:24:58,200
We’ll never know.
No.

511
00:24:58,200 –> 00:25:00,100
The other thing that people
should be worried about is how

512
00:25:00,100 –> 00:25:03,200
much influence these companies
have on the government?

513
00:25:03,200 –> 00:25:05,700
The other way, we backwards?
What do we do?

514
00:25:05,700 –> 00:25:09,100
We want ABC News and Reuters and
time running how our government

515
00:25:09,100 –> 00:25:11,300
works?
Or writing, what they also?

516
00:25:11,300 –> 00:25:12,500
This guy was like, you found one
guy.

517
00:25:12,500 –> 00:25:14,400
Who’s like, yeah, there’s like
400 of them and just everyone’s

518
00:25:14,400 –> 00:25:16,800
like, yeah, okay, yeah, yeah.
That’s, it was long.

519
00:25:16,800 –> 00:25:19,300
I don’t like it either way.
I don’t want, I don’t want.

520
00:25:19,300 –> 00:25:21,900
Yeah, it’s definitely gonna find
out the truth about this because

521
00:25:21,900 –> 00:25:23,800
of that entire Postmates
conversation.

522
00:25:23,800 –> 00:25:27,000
They’re gonna tell, you know,
just a second 25,000 words of a

523
00:25:27,000 –> 00:25:30,600
story Connors Three times on the
podcast already, why do I want

524
00:25:30,600 –> 00:25:34,000
to listen to this?
So the thing is, when they when

525
00:25:34,000 –> 00:25:36,000
they it all came out and they
were like, well, we’re not doing

526
00:25:36,000 –> 00:25:40,600
this anymore and they were but
they just sort of like halfway

527
00:25:40,600 –> 00:25:42,400
dismissed the idea of still
doing it.

528
00:25:42,500 –> 00:25:44,600
Then last year another document
surface.

529
00:25:44,800 –> 00:25:49,400
You can read it on the cia’s own
goddamn website, in case

530
00:25:49,400 –> 00:25:54,700
anyone’s wondering how official
it is, and it was dated 1991.

531
00:25:54,800 –> 00:25:58,600
So now we’re 20, almost 30 years
ahead of time, I’m and they’re

532
00:25:58,600 –> 00:26:02,300
still like, yeah, we have
contacts in every fucking major

533
00:26:02,300 –> 00:26:06,100
media outlet.
And this is a CIA document, this

534
00:26:06,100 –> 00:26:09,400
is a quote from it.
The CIA now has relationships

535
00:26:09,400 –> 00:26:13,800
with reporters from every major
wire service newspaper news,

536
00:26:13,800 –> 00:26:17,400
weekly and television network in
the nation.

537
00:26:17,500 –> 00:26:20,400
This has helped us turn some
intelligence failure, stories

538
00:26:20,600 –> 00:26:23,100
into intelligence success
stories.

539
00:26:23,100 –> 00:26:26,000
What is this, from the cia’s
community college brochure?

540
00:26:26,100 –> 00:26:28,700
Yeah, I know from the Christmas,
From their mom.

541
00:26:28,700 –> 00:26:31,100
Yeah, Jared’s doing great.
He’s turning all of our

542
00:26:31,100 –> 00:26:34,600
intelligence failure stories in
2006’s, taught me how to use the

543
00:26:34,600 –> 00:26:36,300
Roku.
I mean, we get going.

544
00:26:36,300 –> 00:26:39,000
I’m like, two year degree and
Truth meddling as yeah, I need

545
00:26:39,000 –> 00:26:41,100
to dry.
And now I’m wearing a polo

546
00:26:41,100 –> 00:26:42,800
shirt.
I mean, we get to a point in

547
00:26:42,800 –> 00:26:46,000
this where Jennifer Garner is
making CIA recruitment videos.

548
00:26:46,000 –> 00:26:50,100
So that’s not, it’s not that far
on, is Jennifer Garner one, who

549
00:26:50,100 –> 00:26:53,900
is a Catholic?
That’s why she was an alias is

550
00:26:53,900 –> 00:26:56,700
not helping me.
However, meant she’s in the

551
00:26:57,100 –> 00:26:59,000
Capital One.
I’m credit card commercials

552
00:26:59,000 –> 00:27:01,100
right now, a big lip.
I don’t have it to.

553
00:27:01,100 –> 00:27:04,000
I don’t have Jesus Christ, the
movie Daredevil.

554
00:27:04,000 –> 00:27:05,500
Shocking.
Electra.

555
00:27:05,500 –> 00:27:07,900
Oh, she’s electrodes.
That kind of resonated

556
00:27:07,900 –> 00:27:09,400
mathematics.
Oh, really?

557
00:27:09,400 –> 00:27:12,900
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
They also said that their

558
00:27:12,900 –> 00:27:16,100
efforts have helped them
persuade reporters to postpone

559
00:27:16,100 –> 00:27:19,600
change, hold or even scrap
stories that could have

560
00:27:19,600 –> 00:27:23,600
adversely affected National
Security interests or jeopardize

561
00:27:23,600 –> 00:27:26,100
sources and methods.
Well, yeah, that’s right.

562
00:27:26,100 –> 00:27:28,600
It’s very easy to be like if
you’re anything is Yeah, well I

563
00:27:28,608 –> 00:27:31,100
guess it’s like it’s easy to be
like oh if you print this, then

564
00:27:31,100 –> 00:27:33,000
people are going to know that
you know this this whole thing

565
00:27:33,000 –> 00:27:35,100
will be this will shut down our
fucking line to whatever the

566
00:27:35,100 –> 00:27:37,000
story ourselves.
But it’s like, yeah, you can

567
00:27:37,000 –> 00:27:39,900
like you can cry wolf on that,
you know, as much as you want.

568
00:27:39,900 –> 00:27:43,500
If you have the entire
infrastructure of the American

569
00:27:43,500 –> 00:27:46,800
government behind you like write
such a fucking scary power

570
00:27:46,800 –> 00:27:48,100
because it’s like, you think
like?

571
00:27:48,400 –> 00:27:51,100
Yeah, if someone was running an
expose on the blood drive,

572
00:27:51,100 –> 00:27:53,300
they’re using the catch Osama
Bin Laden and that fucking blew

573
00:27:53,300 –> 00:27:54,500
up the whole spot and he ran
away.

574
00:27:54,500 –> 00:27:56,500
And we had to go find him.
And it’s like, sure.

575
00:27:56,500 –> 00:27:57,600
Yeah.
But I’d be like hey did you

576
00:27:57,600 –> 00:27:58,500
know?
Print that we’re trying to kill

577
00:27:58,500 –> 00:28:00,200
this dude or whatever those
fucking tear.

578
00:28:00,300 –> 00:28:03,500
But you know the, I’m sure that
happens like, you know, for ten

579
00:28:03,500 –> 00:28:05,500
percent of the time.
The other ninety it’s just like

580
00:28:05,700 –> 00:28:09,600
a but then if they find out, we
were making kids in El Salvador

581
00:28:09,800 –> 00:28:13,600
to have 28 chromosomes as a
thing to try to make a super

582
00:28:13,600 –> 00:28:15,500
soldier than a dad.
That’s going to look bad.

583
00:28:15,500 –> 00:28:17,500
So just don’t wait, yeah, you’re
going to fuck up your shit and

584
00:28:17,900 –> 00:28:19,900
that’s what I was thinking about
this and this case where it’s

585
00:28:19,900 –> 00:28:22,500
like, if you’re a journalist and
you have a source of information

586
00:28:22,500 –> 00:28:25,200
that trust you because you are a
journalist there saying like oh

587
00:28:25,200 –> 00:28:27,300
there are journalists.
They’re interested in the truth

588
00:28:27,300 –> 00:28:30,000
but Don’t disclose to that
Source.

589
00:28:30,000 –> 00:28:32,800
Oh, and I also give info to the
CIA and the, right?

590
00:28:32,800 –> 00:28:34,800
So who are you talking to?
And he said, well, I’m talking

591
00:28:34,800 –> 00:28:37,700
to this person and then the CIA
starts investigating them

592
00:28:37,900 –> 00:28:41,200
because for whatever reason and
what happens from there, like

593
00:28:41,300 –> 00:28:44,100
these journalists are just
basically putting everyone

594
00:28:44,200 –> 00:28:46,300
they’ve ever talked to as a
source at risk.

595
00:28:46,300 –> 00:28:48,600
If they’re connected to the CI,
once they’ve connected to see a

596
00:28:48,600 –> 00:28:51,300
it’s basically like giving the
CIA open season on anyone

597
00:28:51,300 –> 00:28:54,800
they’ve ever talk to ya and I
want to watch just a part of

598
00:28:54,800 –> 00:28:57,500
this video.
I found this while I was out.

599
00:28:57,800 –> 00:29:01,000
Researching the this article I
don’t know why I said it like

600
00:29:01,000 –> 00:29:02,700
that.
Like I fucking hit the streets.

601
00:29:02,700 –> 00:29:06,000
I know twenty dollar bills
across the bar.

602
00:29:06,800 –> 00:29:11,400
Did you take your laptop?
Tell me about operation

603
00:29:11,400 –> 00:29:17,900
Mockingbird, a fire there, like
an espresso machine, the Wi-Fi

604
00:29:17,900 –> 00:29:22,500
code atoms in a parking
structure you know late at night

605
00:29:22,500 –> 00:29:24,800
behind the pillar and he just
hands a guy, an envelope in the

606
00:29:24,800 –> 00:29:26,700
guy hands it back at Jersey
Mike’s bag.

607
00:29:27,900 –> 00:29:31,000
It’s a smoking guy too and it’s
just a Saab inside.

608
00:29:31,000 –> 00:29:33,200
Yeah, yeah, that’s my payment.
Yeah, yeah.

609
00:29:33,200 –> 00:29:37,900
He’s like, well, no, if you’re
like really is the pickles are

610
00:29:37,900 –> 00:29:40,100
on top.
That means the Kennedy was it

611
00:29:40,100 –> 00:29:42,500
they’ll have how they said and
if they’re on bottom them, he’s

612
00:29:43,300 –> 00:29:44,900
Cuban.
Dissidents had something to do

613
00:29:44,900 –> 00:29:50,000
with it and in this Ted Talk its
investigative journalist sharyl

614
00:29:50,000 –> 00:29:53,800
attkisson and she’s talking
about astroturfing, which is the

615
00:29:53,800 –> 00:29:57,600
act of masking, the sponsors of
a message or organization.

616
00:29:57,900 –> 00:30:01,300
To make it appear as though it
originates from and is supported

617
00:30:01,300 –> 00:30:06,000
by Grassroots, participants.
And I thought this clip was

618
00:30:06,000 –> 00:30:08,500
really interesting.
This is basically the end of its

619
00:30:08,700 –> 00:30:11,800
would be like, if all the on
pops, patreon subscribers were

620
00:30:11,800 –> 00:30:15,200
fake to make it look like, you
know, there’s a whole network

621
00:30:15,200 –> 00:30:16,700
and it was really just like 12,
guys.

622
00:30:16,900 –> 00:30:19,200
Yeah.
When that be particular, that

623
00:30:19,200 –> 00:30:22,800
would be money laundering.
Oh yeah, that’d be cool.

624
00:30:22,900 –> 00:30:25,600
Here we go.
What chance do I have separating

625
00:30:25,600 –> 00:30:28,800
fact from fiction, especially if
Journalist with years of

626
00:30:28,800 –> 00:30:30,900
experience can be so easily
fooled.

627
00:30:30,900 –> 00:30:33,700
Well, I have a few strategies
that I can tell you about to

628
00:30:33,700 –> 00:30:36,500
help you recognize signs of
propaganda and AstroTurf.

629
00:30:36,500 –> 00:30:38,700
Once you start to know what to
look for, you’ll begin to

630
00:30:38,700 –> 00:30:41,600
recognize it everywhere.
First Hallmarks of AstroTurf

631
00:30:41,600 –> 00:30:46,100
include use of inflammatory
language such as crank, quack

632
00:30:46,100 –> 00:30:49,300
nutty lies, paranoid, pseudo and
conspiracy.

633
00:30:49,500 –> 00:30:52,300
That’s the thing we’ve talked
about on this episode before in

634
00:30:52,300 –> 00:30:57,800
relation to Alex Jones and how
and my personal theory that As

635
00:30:57,800 –> 00:31:01,400
Jones was actually recruited by
the government, in the early 90s

636
00:31:01,600 –> 00:31:04,600
to be that guy who can discredit
everyone else, who might

637
00:31:04,600 –> 00:31:06,900
actually seeing something so
crazy, right?

638
00:31:06,900 –> 00:31:09,400
He’ll say some shit.
And then he’ll be like and

639
00:31:09,400 –> 00:31:11,600
lizards and then you’re like,
oh, that guy.

640
00:31:11,600 –> 00:31:13,700
Everything he says is crap.
Yeah.

641
00:31:13,700 –> 00:31:16,700
And if something shows up on
Infowars, you’re automatically

642
00:31:16,700 –> 00:31:18,000
like, oh yeah.
Well that’s bullshit.

643
00:31:18,000 –> 00:31:20,400
Yeah, they did like a they did
like a thing I don’t remember

644
00:31:20,400 –> 00:31:24,000
when but they did like a some
sort of study about how to

645
00:31:24,000 –> 00:31:26,900
discredit people with the word
conspiracy and like right after

646
00:31:26,900 –> 00:31:31,100
9/11, Immediately you know bush
is saying like we will not

647
00:31:31,100 –> 00:31:33,600
accept conspiracy theories.
It’s like the minute they throw

648
00:31:33,600 –> 00:31:37,000
that word in there.
Yeah then and so everything’s

649
00:31:37,000 –> 00:31:39,900
you’re immediately just to do
with Wikileaks but they like

650
00:31:39,900 –> 00:31:42,000
okay we got some real shit.
We got some fake shit and good

651
00:31:42,000 –> 00:31:42,800
luck.
Figuring it out.

652
00:31:42,800 –> 00:31:45,100
It’s in two weeks, you know.
Yeah yeah.

653
00:31:45,200 –> 00:31:49,300
And here’s the rest of AstroTurf
is often claimed to debunk

654
00:31:49,300 –> 00:31:51,200
myths.
That aren’t myths that.

655
00:31:51,200 –> 00:31:53,500
All use of the charged language
test.

656
00:31:53,500 –> 00:31:55,200
Well, people here something’s a
myth.

657
00:31:55,300 –> 00:31:58,100
Maybe they find it on Snopes and
they instantly We declare

658
00:31:58,100 –> 00:32:00,100
themselves too, smart to fall
for it.

659
00:32:00,100 –> 00:32:03,900
But what if the whole notion of
the myth is itself, a myth and

660
00:32:03,900 –> 00:32:07,900
you and Snopes fell for that, be
we see people chuckled at that,

661
00:32:07,900 –> 00:32:09,800
but I think Snopes does fall for
that.

662
00:32:09,800 –> 00:32:13,800
I think Snopes does.
Sometimes just always wondered

663
00:32:13,800 –> 00:32:15,900
who’s behind Snopes, I don’t
even know.

664
00:32:16,000 –> 00:32:18,200
Yeah, well, the, the problem
with conservatives.

665
00:32:18,200 –> 00:32:20,000
Nope.
Yeah, John J.

666
00:32:20,000 –> 00:32:22,200
Snopes.
Come on the thing and

667
00:32:22,200 –> 00:32:28,300
Jingleheimer snow, the thing
about debunking, Theories.

668
00:32:28,300 –> 00:32:31,100
Whenever someone has a
conspiracy theory that they want

669
00:32:31,100 –> 00:32:33,900
to share with the world we’re
always like well what’s the

670
00:32:33,908 –> 00:32:36,300
source?
Is it a credible Source but the

671
00:32:36,300 –> 00:32:40,800
minute someone debunks it could
be John J snopes.com Blogspot

672
00:32:40,800 –> 00:32:43,400
dot org debunking.
It will be like see it’s

673
00:32:43,400 –> 00:32:45,400
debunked like that.
Yes this person obviously

674
00:32:45,400 –> 00:32:47,700
debunked.
It looks like when you go back

675
00:32:47,700 –> 00:32:50,000
Source debunking.
That’s because the way I think

676
00:32:50,000 –> 00:32:52,000
we look at science and
information which is where like,

677
00:32:52,000 –> 00:32:54,400
you know, you have to kind of
like process of elimination.

678
00:32:54,400 –> 00:32:56,300
Except it’s funny that she
mentions this because this is

679
00:32:56,300 –> 00:32:57,700
like a book that I read this
very carefully.

680
00:32:57,700 –> 00:33:00,300
Close to this, not on that
topic. 1 topic of medicine which

681
00:33:00,300 –> 00:33:01,800
is there’s book called white
coat.

682
00:33:01,800 –> 00:33:04,900
Black hat Adventures from the
Dark Side of medicine and it’s

683
00:33:04,900 –> 00:33:09,600
how stories get on the news
about like, oh, is precedent,

684
00:33:09,600 –> 00:33:11,900
why is Mart?
Why is November prostate month

685
00:33:12,100 –> 00:33:15,000
and basic and conspiracies of,
how would they make Public

686
00:33:15,000 –> 00:33:17,900
Health stories in the news?
Right, and where do those come

687
00:33:17,900 –> 00:33:20,200
from and what is the interest of
the pub?

688
00:33:20,200 –> 00:33:22,400
What is the Public’s interest in
health?

689
00:33:22,400 –> 00:33:25,100
And all of these groups that are
government that are Private

690
00:33:25,100 –> 00:33:27,500
Industry, that are medical
industry and how do they make

691
00:33:27,500 –> 00:33:29,500
us?
We’re and basically put out

692
00:33:29,500 –> 00:33:31,700
propaganda about right, Addison
and health, and everything

693
00:33:31,700 –> 00:33:33,900
disease is what to be aware of
and what to buy.

694
00:33:33,900 –> 00:33:37,600
And that’s one of the issues.
She actually talks about that in

695
00:33:37,600 –> 00:33:39,900
this.
I mean the videos ten and a half

696
00:33:39,900 –> 00:33:41,100
minutes so we don’t listen to it
all.

697
00:33:41,100 –> 00:33:46,300
But she actually brings a lot of
that up about how she brought up

698
00:33:46,300 –> 00:33:48,500
one specific example.
Where when she was working for

699
00:33:48,500 –> 00:33:54,000
CBS This like news report came
out and most people just covered

700
00:33:54,000 –> 00:33:58,700
it from the the report that they
received whereas She looked into

701
00:33:58,700 –> 00:34:02,100
the company that was behind this
study and was like, well they’re

702
00:34:02,100 –> 00:34:06,200
actually financed by the same
people who would want you to

703
00:34:06,200 –> 00:34:08,400
believe this.
So maybe don’t just take it with

704
00:34:08,400 –> 00:34:11,199
a grain of salt, but she was the
only one who covered it that

705
00:34:11,199 –> 00:34:13,400
way.
Yeah, everybody just wants a

706
00:34:13,400 –> 00:34:18,600
confident, dad to tell them
what’s going on and like they

707
00:34:18,900 –> 00:34:21,900
you just you just want a guy to
like you just want to it’s

708
00:34:21,900 –> 00:34:26,000
really hard to independently
synthesizer sort of viewpoint

709
00:34:26,000 –> 00:34:27,600
about the word with it or a
personal.

710
00:34:27,699 –> 00:34:30,100
Lost fear, whatever it whatever
it is, you but you just hear one

711
00:34:30,100 –> 00:34:32,800
thing and you’re like it’s true.
Yeah length.

712
00:34:32,800 –> 00:34:34,699
Right here.
Let he was without sin cast the

713
00:34:34,699 –> 00:34:36,300
first stone you like that I like
that.

714
00:34:36,300 –> 00:34:38,800
I don’t start shit if you know
because you started near full of

715
00:34:38,808 –> 00:34:41,199
shit to that’s and then I’m just
going to do the whole book.

716
00:34:41,199 –> 00:34:42,800
That’ll be my book, you know.
Yeah.

717
00:34:42,800 –> 00:34:44,500
Alex Jones.
You’re like, yeah I do fucking

718
00:34:44,500 –> 00:34:45,900
hate.
Hilary you know what?

719
00:34:45,900 –> 00:34:48,100
Yeah.
And proc and 911 wasn’t it weird

720
00:34:48,100 –> 00:34:50,699
feeling.
Yeah, you just you want you want

721
00:34:50,800 –> 00:34:53,199
a dad.
You want a media, dad to just,

722
00:34:53,300 –> 00:34:55,199
you know, be like yeah.
Is what with fucking this?

723
00:34:55,199 –> 00:34:57,500
You know, and me and Connor went
to be your media.

724
00:34:57,700 –> 00:34:59,400
Dad, we want to be your media
uncle’s.

725
00:34:59,400 –> 00:35:01,100
Yeah, we want to be.
We just want to be the

726
00:35:01,100 –> 00:35:03,300
cantankerous Uncle.
I’ll give you a beer.

727
00:35:03,300 –> 00:35:04,100
Sure.
You’re 90.

728
00:35:04,100 –> 00:35:06,100
You’re gonna die.
I want to die.

729
00:35:06,100 –> 00:35:07,300
You’re not.
It’s fine.

730
00:35:07,300 –> 00:35:09,300
I’m gonna be the media.
High School acid dealer.

731
00:35:09,300 –> 00:35:11,700
It’s like, do you want to expand
your mind, kid?

732
00:35:11,700 –> 00:35:15,000
You ready for this shit?
Yeah, idiot.

733
00:35:15,300 –> 00:35:17,400
Really.
I mean I knew you’d heard Pet

734
00:35:17,400 –> 00:35:19,600
Sounds, but have you heard it?
You probably just heard,

735
00:35:19,600 –> 00:35:23,100
wouldn’t it be nice?
So let’s listen to the end of

736
00:35:23,100 –> 00:35:26,200
this year, when interest attack
an issue by controversial

737
00:35:26,200 –> 00:35:29,800
eisinger, attacking the People
personalities and organizations

738
00:35:29,800 –> 00:35:32,300
surrounding it rather than
addressing the fact that could

739
00:35:32,300 –> 00:35:35,300
be AstroTurf.
And most of all AstroTurf is

740
00:35:35,300 –> 00:35:38,900
tend to reserve all of their
public skepticism for those

741
00:35:38,900 –> 00:35:41,700
exposing wrongdoing rather than
the wrong doers.

742
00:35:41,800 –> 00:35:44,400
In other words instead of
questioning Authority, they

743
00:35:44,400 –> 00:35:46,600
questioned those who question
authority.

744
00:35:46,700 –> 00:35:48,800
You might start to see things a
little more clearly.

745
00:35:48,800 –> 00:35:51,200
It’s kind of like taking off
your glasses and wiping them and

746
00:35:51,200 –> 00:35:53,900
putting them back on and
realizing for the first time how

747
00:35:53,900 –> 00:35:57,200
foggy they’d been all along.
I can’t resolve these issues but

748
00:35:57,200 –> 00:35:58,300
I hope.
That I’ve given you some

749
00:35:58,300 –> 00:36:01,200
information that will at least
motivate you to take off your

750
00:36:01,200 –> 00:36:05,100
glasses and wipe them and become
a wiser consumer of information.

751
00:36:05,300 –> 00:36:08,700
In an increasingly artificial,
paid for reality.

752
00:36:09,000 –> 00:36:10,600
We’re all fucked.
Yeah man.

753
00:36:10,600 –> 00:36:12,000
What a no one’s going to do
that.

754
00:36:12,100 –> 00:36:15,300
I like, man, this weird to see
someone smiling and saying, I’m

755
00:36:16,300 –> 00:36:18,400
just trying to give a good
speech and it was because just

756
00:36:18,400 –> 00:36:21,600
like in a increasingly paid for
reality.

757
00:36:21,600 –> 00:36:24,500
Yeah, yeah, thanks.
Well, I’ve gone like the

758
00:36:24,500 –> 00:36:26,800
opposite way where I’m just
like, I don’t believe anything

759
00:36:26,800 –> 00:36:29,200
that you guys are telling.
It’s all lies, it’s all lies.

760
00:36:29,200 –> 00:36:32,600
You know, I don’t that’s kind of
how I am these days.

761
00:36:32,900 –> 00:36:38,200
I don’t trust, I I don’t think
the enemy is the, ER, the media

762
00:36:38,200 –> 00:36:41,400
is the enemy of the people, but
I also don’t think they do a

763
00:36:41,408 –> 00:36:44,600
great job in general.
And I don’t doubt that there’s

764
00:36:44,600 –> 00:36:47,800
some sort of government
influence at work and a lot of

765
00:36:47,800 –> 00:36:51,100
media Outlets that keep us from
hearing a lot of shit, which is

766
00:36:51,100 –> 00:36:54,000
also like, it’s become a fuck,
it’s, you know, a business and

767
00:36:54,000 –> 00:36:55,800
it’s like, yeah, of
entertainment.

768
00:36:55,800 –> 00:36:59,700
I think the media is actually I
think of the news, it’s no

769
00:36:59,700 –> 00:37:02,500
surprise that on the page,
everything is given equal.

770
00:37:02,500 –> 00:37:06,200
Weight News, sports
entertainment, are all equally

771
00:37:06,300 –> 00:37:09,800
next script is shot out to every
city to every whatever.

772
00:37:09,800 –> 00:37:11,900
Every, it’s, no one at that
station.

773
00:37:11,900 –> 00:37:14,200
Have their own thought about
something and wrote it, you

774
00:37:14,200 –> 00:37:16,200
know, the right form of
entertainment, it’s people who

775
00:37:16,200 –> 00:37:20,000
are interested by things that
sound truth ear, which is one of

776
00:37:20,008 –> 00:37:21,700
the best words that’s ever been
created.

777
00:37:21,800 –> 00:37:24,700
Something that sounds more true.
It’s like watching a documentary

778
00:37:24,700 –> 00:37:26,200
versus watching a narrative
film.

779
00:37:26,200 –> 00:37:27,500
It’s like it’s all
entertainment.

780
00:37:27,700 –> 00:37:30,700
It’s just you know you want your
things with like a slice of

781
00:37:30,700 –> 00:37:32,400
Truth on top like a little
cheese.

782
00:37:32,400 –> 00:37:34,300
But yeah.
Big shit pile underneath.

783
00:37:34,300 –> 00:37:36,100
Yeah.
It’s like you look, I had a

784
00:37:36,107 –> 00:37:36,900
salad.
Sure.

785
00:37:36,900 –> 00:37:39,100
It was all croutons and Caesar
dressing.

786
00:37:39,100 –> 00:37:41,700
But, I mean, you know, there’s a
little lettuce in there.

787
00:37:41,800 –> 00:37:43,600
I didn’t eat a burger.
Yeah, it’s the same thing.

788
00:37:43,600 –> 00:37:46,300
The burger is the burgers,
entertainment news and the salad

789
00:37:46,300 –> 00:37:50,600
covered in shit is the news news
right now covered in shit.

790
00:37:50,600 –> 00:37:53,900
And yeah I think I mean it’s
with like a McDonald.

791
00:37:53,900 –> 00:37:56,800
Let’s just call it the
McDonald’s weird how things like

792
00:37:56,800 –> 00:37:59,900
just don’t A trickle down to
affect your light like talking

793
00:37:59,900 –> 00:38:03,300
about piss again.
Yeah, kind of this kind of

794
00:38:03,300 –> 00:38:04,700
thing.
I think sometimes I’m like I

795
00:38:04,707 –> 00:38:07,400
don’t think it’s really news and
what’s a homeless guy knows it,

796
00:38:07,800 –> 00:38:10,100
you know, it doesn’t.
It’s emanated to that level of

797
00:38:10,100 –> 00:38:13,300
society and wasn’t, it doesn’t,
it’s not, it’s not important

798
00:38:13,300 –> 00:38:15,400
news.
Unless a home, like, homeless

799
00:38:15,400 –> 00:38:18,500
guys, know, the president, they
know like we’re fighting this.

800
00:38:18,500 –> 00:38:20,700
There’s a war over there.
No, Kim Kardashian.

801
00:38:20,700 –> 00:38:23,000
Do you know what I mean?
Yeah, well yeah, it’s like,

802
00:38:23,000 –> 00:38:25,200
what’s the thing in the Judaism
where you have to have a minion

803
00:38:25,200 –> 00:38:28,000
you have to have like a minimum
number of people Like at a

804
00:38:28,000 –> 00:38:30,100
funeral or something.
Yeah count where there’s a

805
00:38:30,100 –> 00:38:32,700
quorum, it’s like a quorum but
it’s called a minion it’s a

806
00:38:32,700 –> 00:38:39,100
thing a name Jewish law or so
sometimes we had something like

807
00:38:39,100 –> 00:38:41,700
that.
It’s I knew that movie was

808
00:38:41,700 –> 00:38:44,500
Jewish propaganda but that’s why
you’ll sometimes see in media.

809
00:38:44,500 –> 00:38:46,400
They’ll be like, oh, we’re
having a funeral and I’m like,

810
00:38:46,400 –> 00:38:48,200
there’s not enough juice here,
we have two.

811
00:38:48,200 –> 00:38:50,600
So they have to go out and find
them and like everything.

812
00:38:51,000 –> 00:38:55,300
We haven’t reached our minimum,
literally it is about how many

813
00:38:55,300 –> 00:38:57,500
Jewish people they have to
happen room for COD to be there.

814
00:38:57,600 –> 00:39:00,600
Something for to be holy, right?
Interesting, that’s like in

815
00:39:00,600 –> 00:39:02,700
Japan when they have strippers
because they want to have the

816
00:39:02,700 –> 00:39:05,700
more people you have the better
the more Heaven you get.

817
00:39:05,700 –> 00:39:10,200
Sure whatever.
So there’s Adam’s, not pleased.

818
00:39:10,400 –> 00:39:15,500
So there’s another article that
we read for this podcast on the

819
00:39:15,500 –> 00:39:18,900
Atlantic called operation
Tinseltown how the CIA

820
00:39:18,900 –> 00:39:22,800
manipulates Hollywood and it’s
about the cia’s influence on

821
00:39:22,800 –> 00:39:24,900
Hollywood as soon as we have the
it a third Agent.

822
00:39:24,900 –> 00:39:28,100
Cody Banks movie Operation
pencil town for Muniz.

823
00:39:28,100 –> 00:39:31,400
As to expose the child pedophile
rings, that got him into these

824
00:39:31,400 –> 00:39:34,800
movies in the first place.
That’s why he has no memory of

825
00:39:34,800 –> 00:39:36,700
everything that happened during
welcoming the middle.

826
00:39:36,700 –> 00:39:39,500
Yeah, my fucking, he busts
through, but Bryan Singer,

827
00:39:39,500 –> 00:39:43,000
Skylight is like, I’m here to
save the fucking Zack & Cody

828
00:39:43,000 –> 00:39:45,300
kids before, it’s too late and
Brian’s.

829
00:39:45,300 –> 00:39:48,400
Like, but I’m a bottom, you
don’t look like much of a top.

830
00:39:49,300 –> 00:39:53,400
This is, from the Atlantic
article, the CIA has established

831
00:39:53,400 –> 00:39:56,500
a quote, very active spin
machine in the heart of the

832
00:39:56,500 –> 00:39:57,700
entertainment capital.
Oil.

833
00:39:57,900 –> 00:40:00,800
Which works strenuously to make
sure the cloak-and-dagger world

834
00:40:00,800 –> 00:40:04,800
is presented in heroic terms and
American Sniper.

835
00:40:05,700 –> 00:40:07,800
Yeah, yeah, you just a great
dude.

836
00:40:07,800 –> 00:40:10,900
That shocked people in the head.
The guy that metal, the guy that

837
00:40:10,900 –> 00:40:13,100
ruined Jesse Ventura is career,
did he?

838
00:40:13,300 –> 00:40:15,700
Oh, you didn’t hear about that?
No, oh my God.

839
00:40:18,100 –> 00:40:20,200
No, no, I’m dead serious.
You want to have a brief detour

840
00:40:20,200 –> 00:40:23,400
onto this just real quick.
Sure, so the guy who wrote

841
00:40:23,600 –> 00:40:26,000
American Sniper, His Name
Escapes, he’s Chris or

842
00:40:26,000 –> 00:40:29,200
something, I forget fucking
Chris, let’s just say Bradley

843
00:40:29,200 –> 00:40:30,700
Cooper because it’s a good
little movie.

844
00:40:30,800 –> 00:40:34,600
So Bradley Cooper the guy wrote
he claims in his book that you

845
00:40:34,600 –> 00:40:36,300
know, Jesse Ventura who is one
of the Frog men.

846
00:40:36,300 –> 00:40:40,700
Whose when the original Green
Berets he was at an event and in

847
00:40:40,700 –> 00:40:44,100
this American Sniper Skies book,
he claims that Jesse Ventura was

848
00:40:44,100 –> 00:40:47,900
like very rude to him, or was it
dick to him and like, threaten

849
00:40:47,900 –> 00:40:50,700
to fight him and Stephanie and
let’s say that they got into

850
00:40:50,700 –> 00:40:55,100
some scuffle or whatever, just
made up whole cloth is never

851
00:40:55,100 –> 00:40:57,600
happened.
We never interacted like on The

852
00:40:57,607 –> 00:41:00,500
day that you said, we did, we
did a photo and shook hands and

853
00:41:00,500 –> 00:41:02,600
met at this other event, which I
have photos of.

854
00:41:02,600 –> 00:41:04,300
And I have testimony from people
who were there that this

855
00:41:04,300 –> 00:41:05,900
happened.
And he’s like, basically in his

856
00:41:05,900 –> 00:41:07,500
book, he wanted to look like big
shit.

857
00:41:07,500 –> 00:41:10,100
So he’s like, oh, I started
shoot vestment or just even

858
00:41:10,100 –> 00:41:12,700
tours threatened by me and I’ve
put him in his place and stuff.

859
00:41:12,900 –> 00:41:15,000
So he filed a lawsuit against
him.

860
00:41:15,100 –> 00:41:18,700
And then at once this lawsuit
started, Jesse Ventura was being

861
00:41:18,700 –> 00:41:21,300
dragged through the media for
disagreements guy and calling

862
00:41:21,300 –> 00:41:23,600
him a liar.
And he got all these media

863
00:41:23,600 –> 00:41:26,800
appearances cancelled, he got
his show that he was working on

864
00:41:26,800 –> 00:41:29,900
Jesse Ventura.
His conspiracy show, got

865
00:41:29,900 –> 00:41:31,700
cancelled all of this shit went
down.

866
00:41:31,700 –> 00:41:35,200
And then once the guy died, the
story in the media became just

867
00:41:35,200 –> 00:41:38,800
even tours trying to get money
out of this guy’s Widow and the

868
00:41:38,800 –> 00:41:41,300
Widow was being backed by her
publisher in this giant.

869
00:41:41,300 –> 00:41:44,800
Media Corporation was fighting
him and trying to shut him up,

870
00:41:44,800 –> 00:41:47,600
so he couldn’t talk about it and
they were the ones spinning, it

871
00:41:47,600 –> 00:41:49,900
that he was going after this
guy’s Widow and trying to drag

872
00:41:49,900 –> 00:41:51,200
her name through the mud and
everything.

873
00:41:51,200 –> 00:41:53,700
It was just complete bullshit.
Like, the Publishing Company

874
00:41:53,700 –> 00:41:55,700
knew that.
That story was not true and they

875
00:41:55,700 –> 00:41:57,800
have if they had done any
research, they Would have been

876
00:41:57,800 –> 00:42:00,000
able to find out.
Yeah, they didn’t happen.

877
00:42:00,200 –> 00:42:02,800
But guy’s dead now.
So he looks like the dick who’s

878
00:42:02,800 –> 00:42:05,800
trying to drag a dead, guy’s
name the man when he say, no,

879
00:42:05,800 –> 00:42:08,100
this guy was just a total
fucking asshole who lied about

880
00:42:08,200 –> 00:42:09,700
spin on.
All shit is so crazy.

881
00:42:09,700 –> 00:42:12,100
That I that’s again why I just
can’t believe anything.

882
00:42:12,100 –> 00:42:13,900
You know, that whole thing with
the that’s what.

883
00:42:13,900 –> 00:42:14,900
Sorry.
I’m tardy Railway.

884
00:42:14,900 –> 00:42:16,900
I think that that ties into what
we’re talking.

885
00:42:16,900 –> 00:42:18,600
Yeah.
And yeah, and he went to like

886
00:42:18,600 –> 00:42:21,000
Russia to film shows and stuff.
He can’t even like get hired in

887
00:42:21,000 –> 00:42:23,500
Us Media now.
Because yeah, he’s looked at as

888
00:42:23,508 –> 00:42:25,000
a liar.
Oh, I know one place.

889
00:42:25,000 –> 00:42:27,100
You could get a job.
Hell, yeah.

890
00:42:27,200 –> 00:42:31,400
If He wants to come to know ho
buddy we have a yak and opens

891
00:42:31,400 –> 00:42:33,300
open invitation to mr.
Ventura.

892
00:42:33,400 –> 00:42:34,800
Yeah.
You’re saying haha Cafe.

893
00:42:34,800 –> 00:42:37,600
If you want to come do spot.
I’ll tell talk to tell ya.

894
00:42:37,600 –> 00:42:39,300
I’m shocked.
He’s not doing The Comedy Store

895
00:42:39,300 –> 00:42:44,000
anything right now but he I
would hire him here.

896
00:42:44,100 –> 00:42:45,300
He’s not take this.
That’s what I was saying.

897
00:42:45,300 –> 00:42:48,300
He wants to leave a mystical its
limits.

898
00:42:48,300 –> 00:42:50,900
But did anyone ever watch his
Conspiracy Theory show?

899
00:42:50,900 –> 00:42:53,000
Oh yeah yeah a few episodes.
I can’t remember.

900
00:42:53,000 –> 00:42:56,100
It was actually really good.
They said smart guy because he

901
00:42:56,100 –> 00:42:59,100
would like drive to the place.
Aces and be like water fly, just

902
00:42:59,100 –> 00:43:03,500
walk through this gate, maybe
like will shoot you but we can’t

903
00:43:03,500 –> 00:43:08,200
tell you why.
Leonard Nimoy?

904
00:43:08,400 –> 00:43:11,600
Think I did know all of that
back search of an answer at.

905
00:43:11,600 –> 00:43:14,800
So I think I saw that he had a
conspiracy show and then I saw

906
00:43:14,800 –> 00:43:17,600
that everyone was shitting on
him and so I just went well go

907
00:43:17,600 –> 00:43:20,800
figures, you try to get some
truth out there and yeah, just

908
00:43:21,000 –> 00:43:23,300
drag you down.
He’s the first one who hit me to

909
00:43:23,300 –> 00:43:25,700
the Denver Airport, so he’ll
always holds back.

910
00:43:27,600 –> 00:43:32,000
Game.
Yeah, evil horse and so one of

911
00:43:32,000 –> 00:43:36,400
the things they bring up is that
in 1996 the CIA hired, a veteran

912
00:43:36,400 –> 00:43:39,800
Clandestine, Officer Chase,
Brandon to work directly with

913
00:43:39,800 –> 00:43:43,500
Hollywood Studios and production
companies to upgrade its image.

914
00:43:43,600 –> 00:43:46,900
And this is a quote from him,
we’ve always been portrayed

915
00:43:46,900 –> 00:43:50,000
erroneously as evil and
Machiavelli and it took us a

916
00:43:50,008 –> 00:43:53,000
long time to support projects
that portray us in a light.

917
00:43:53,000 –> 00:43:56,700
In the light we want to be seen
in and this article mentions Ben

918
00:43:56,700 –> 00:44:00,600
Affleck’s Specifically so much
interesting because of those

919
00:44:00,600 –> 00:44:03,200
like you think of like the like
early CIA movies were kind of

920
00:44:03,200 –> 00:44:05,000
like, well, they’re fucking shit
like, what’s that one that came

921
00:44:05,000 –> 00:44:06,700
out after Kennedy ordering
Kennedy though.

922
00:44:06,700 –> 00:44:09,400
His like about some kind of The
Manchurian Manchurian catcher in

923
00:44:09,400 –> 00:44:10,500
Canada.
I think there’s a lot left

924
00:44:10,500 –> 00:44:12,000
residents man, or something like
that.

925
00:44:12,200 –> 00:44:13,800
Yeah, yeah.
Well, they were kind of like

926
00:44:13,800 –> 00:44:15,400
shitting duplicitous but then
they’re like, all right.

927
00:44:15,400 –> 00:44:18,000
Let’s adapt an English thing.
That seems like it’s a

928
00:44:18,000 –> 00:44:21,100
completely, not propagating, but
it will, just it just makes pies

929
00:44:21,100 –> 00:44:22,400
seem cool.
You know?

930
00:44:22,400 –> 00:44:24,600
Yeah, if they have a fucking
watch that shoots, a laser,

931
00:44:24,600 –> 00:44:26,200
you’re like, well, that’s metal
enough.

932
00:44:26,200 –> 00:44:27,400
I don’t care what they’re doing
to.

933
00:44:27,500 –> 00:44:29,600
Fucking, you know, they have
pigs.

934
00:44:29,600 –> 00:44:31,700
That’s why I like.
So, there’s a movie called The

935
00:44:31,700 –> 00:44:35,200
Quiet, American, which is about
CIA special agents that were in

936
00:44:35,200 –> 00:44:37,200
Vietnam.
Graham Greene wrote it, and it

937
00:44:37,200 –> 00:44:40,700
was made into a movie beginning
of Vietnam and they cut out a

938
00:44:40,700 –> 00:44:43,100
lot of anti-vietnam things in
it, even before the war really

939
00:44:43,100 –> 00:44:46,200
scaled up.
And then it was remade around

940
00:44:46,200 –> 00:44:50,500
after 9/11 with Michael Caine
and Brendan Fraser and it tanked

941
00:44:50,500 –> 00:44:53,500
horribly because it no.
Yeah, you look bad because it

942
00:44:53,500 –> 00:44:55,800
was highly critical of CIA
agents and their involvement in

943
00:44:55,800 –> 00:44:57,800
foreign Nations.
And just talked about It was,

944
00:44:57,900 –> 00:45:00,300
you know, the Vietnam stuff, all
rain true with what we were

945
00:45:00,300 –> 00:45:01,600
doing Afghanistan in the Middle
East.

946
00:45:01,600 –> 00:45:05,100
So that bombed at the box
office, Bruce, I told you that

947
00:45:05,100 –> 00:45:09,000
you had to dress up like what
scared you but doing Asian eyes

948
00:45:09,000 –> 00:45:10,900
is really not the best way to
handle your.

949
00:45:10,900 –> 00:45:14,000
Trump has to go to Vietnam to
get the food.

950
00:45:14,000 –> 00:45:16,500
Well, you have you ever heard of
this guy aren’t on milk and who

951
00:45:16,500 –> 00:45:19,200
is an Israeli, billionaire
business and film producer who

952
00:45:19,200 –> 00:45:23,000
founded, Regency Enterprises,
and he was a, he was in Israeli

953
00:45:23,000 –> 00:45:25,300
secret agent, for, yeah, 25
years.

954
00:45:25,300 –> 00:45:27,300
The secret agents are in film
all over the place.

955
00:45:27,700 –> 00:45:30,500
Right.
And they mentioned the Jack Ryan

956
00:45:30,500 –> 00:45:34,600
franchise, especially as being
one that the CIA worked closely

957
00:45:34,600 –> 00:45:39,100
on in an effort to improve their
image and also our go dude.

958
00:45:39,100 –> 00:45:40,800
Fucking Network notes are bad
enough.

959
00:45:40,800 –> 00:45:44,300
Imagine getting CIA know just
like yeah yeah NBC says we got

960
00:45:44,300 –> 00:45:47,100
to change it to Pepsi because
they’re the sponsor this month

961
00:45:47,100 –> 00:45:51,100
and yeah, fucking the guy in the
black van says no we can’t.

962
00:45:51,100 –> 00:45:52,600
But he’s not allowed to murder
anybody.

963
00:45:52,600 –> 00:45:56,500
So I guess he gives her a dog.
Yeah, and it claimed this

964
00:45:56,500 –> 00:45:59,800
article claims Chase Brandon was
on set during all of those

965
00:45:59,800 –> 00:46:03,300
movies and frequently present
during the filming of Alias, a

966
00:46:03,300 –> 00:46:06,000
spy series, starring Ben
Affleck’s, then wife Jennifer

967
00:46:06,000 –> 00:46:09,200
Garner.
She actually filmed a CIA

968
00:46:09,200 –> 00:46:12,700
recruitment video for them in
2004, were they married when she

969
00:46:12,700 –> 00:46:15,200
was done Alias?
That’s when they met when she

970
00:46:15,200 –> 00:46:16,300
was on.
Yeah, I don’t know.

971
00:46:16,400 –> 00:46:21,800
Yeah, I know that one day when
they were hit on the important

972
00:46:21,800 –> 00:46:24,800
detail here.
I was a show that was like a

973
00:46:24,808 –> 00:46:27,200
celebrity poker show that used
to be on Bravo.

974
00:46:27,200 –> 00:46:30,000
And I I watched re-watch your
shit out with Dave Foley.

975
00:46:30,000 –> 00:46:33,700
How long did Alias run?
I mean, I’m not that long early.

976
00:46:33,700 –> 00:46:35,900
Like 2001 to 2004.
Yeah.

977
00:46:35,900 –> 00:46:37,300
How do you even know shit like
that?

978
00:46:37,300 –> 00:46:39,400
How would we even find out the
years?

979
00:46:39,600 –> 00:46:41,600
Ben Affleck?
But, and I was gonna say it’s

980
00:46:41,600 –> 00:46:42,500
perfect.
Ben Affleck has.

981
00:46:42,500 –> 00:46:45,700
He’s he’s liberal loves America,
freedom.

982
00:46:45,700 –> 00:46:48,700
And he’s dumb and egotistical.
So, he’s like the ideal stooge

983
00:46:48,700 –> 00:46:50,300
for a government agent to set
up.

984
00:46:50,400 –> 00:46:54,000
Also, I think that this is a
conspiracy by the CIA, to get

985
00:46:54,000 –> 00:46:55,900
laid more because they wanted to
put out there.

986
00:46:55,900 –> 00:46:58,100
Like CIA agents were really
Handsome.

987
00:46:58,200 –> 00:47:00,900
Yeah, Hollywood actor.
Suck our dicks.

988
00:47:00,900 –> 00:47:04,000
Hey, we’re really sick and tired
of all these firefighters, get

989
00:47:04,000 –> 00:47:08,100
in the fucking good guy pussy,
CIA agents.

990
00:47:08,100 –> 00:47:11,600
It’s like we’re smart and sexy
current song was for old John

991
00:47:11,600 –> 00:47:14,700
Doe.
Oh yeah, I know how to take down

992
00:47:14,700 –> 00:47:17,000
the middle eastern, terrorists
and lick your dick.

993
00:47:17,300 –> 00:47:21,500
This is a quote, from former CIA
agent, Bob Baer, who was also

994
00:47:21,500 –> 00:47:25,300
the subject of the movie
syriana, which is a movie, a lot

995
00:47:25,300 –> 00:47:30,100
of people pretended to, like, in
the To made no fucking sense.

996
00:47:30,500 –> 00:47:33,400
And this is a quote Argo had
nothing to do with reality.

997
00:47:33,400 –> 00:47:36,500
Anybody involved in that
operation knows that the unit

998
00:47:36,500 –> 00:47:40,100
Mendez worked for his fictional.
He was a makeup guy, he made the

999
00:47:40,100 –> 00:47:42,500
first mustache.
I used, they aren’t supposed to

1000
00:47:42,500 –> 00:47:45,000
last a long time, so they don’t
remember your face.

1001
00:47:45,300 –> 00:47:48,700
And he said the best example of
how the CIA really works, is

1002
00:47:48,700 –> 00:47:50,600
HBO’s The Wire.
Yeah.

1003
00:47:50,600 –> 00:47:51,700
Well, that’s what it’s saying
earlier about.

1004
00:47:51,700 –> 00:47:54,300
The see Baba, basically,
journalists collaborations with

1005
00:47:54,300 –> 00:47:56,400
the police.
It’s the same thing.

1006
00:47:56,400 –> 00:47:59,400
The price Work the same as the
CIA in the level of bureaucracy

1007
00:47:59,400 –> 00:48:03,100
and paperwork, and ego and
people trying to rise and

1008
00:48:03,100 –> 00:48:05,700
political influence on
procedures and everything.

1009
00:48:05,700 –> 00:48:09,400
And they also talked about
actors being brought to CIA

1010
00:48:09,400 –> 00:48:12,000
headquarters and one guy is like
why?

1011
00:48:12,000 –> 00:48:15,300
Just because they’re going to be
in a movie and he describes like

1012
00:48:15,300 –> 00:48:18,000
people who are cover people like
yeah and your faces in the

1013
00:48:18,000 –> 00:48:20,500
hallway like having to hide
their faces because Ben

1014
00:48:20,500 –> 00:48:22,500
Affleck’s in the room and he’s
not supposed to be.

1015
00:48:22,508 –> 00:48:25,500
Yeah.
And they also at one point took

1016
00:48:25,500 –> 00:48:30,800
the cast of To the CIA office
and people who weren’t born in

1017
00:48:30,800 –> 00:48:34,000
the United States.
Couldn’t go into certain areas.

1018
00:48:34,200 –> 00:48:36,200
Yeah.
Which at least there are at

1019
00:48:36,200 –> 00:48:38,500
least they’re exercising that
much caution.

1020
00:48:39,000 –> 00:48:41,800
Yeah, at least like that, I like
that Marina Bowl, Caron, or

1021
00:48:41,800 –> 00:48:44,500
whatever her name is from,
Homeland isn’t going to go back

1022
00:48:44,500 –> 00:48:46,800
and report to Brazil about what
we’re up to.

1023
00:48:47,400 –> 00:48:53,800
Yeah, it’s the longest con of
all time, I was a waitress for

1024
00:48:53,800 –> 00:48:56,500
three years.
So I could go see a filing

1025
00:48:56,500 –> 00:48:58,900
cabinet that had Stuff in it?
No, it’s out.

1026
00:48:58,900 –> 00:49:01,900
It’s actually does sound
ludicrous, but foreign

1027
00:49:01,900 –> 00:49:03,500
governments actually do use high
level.

1028
00:49:03,500 –> 00:49:05,500
People like that, that was one
of the things with the heater at

1029
00:49:05,508 –> 00:49:06,800
the camera.
Yeah, we do it all the time.

1030
00:49:06,800 –> 00:49:08,500
Like the Cambridge.
Five was a spy group that

1031
00:49:08,500 –> 00:49:11,300
Rihanna the UK during the 40s
50s and 60s.

1032
00:49:11,600 –> 00:49:14,700
And one of their biggest guys
was a radio show host on BBC

1033
00:49:14,700 –> 00:49:16,600
Radio, who would interview
celebrities and people all the

1034
00:49:16,600 –> 00:49:18,700
time and be like that guy
couldn’t be a spy.

1035
00:49:18,700 –> 00:49:21,800
He’s too high level.
No, that’s perfect because no

1036
00:49:21,800 –> 00:49:23,500
one suspect super high level
people.

1037
00:49:23,500 –> 00:49:28,500
So to say a foreign government
would never try to use, An actor

1038
00:49:28,700 –> 00:49:31,000
to find out information about
the US government just because

1039
00:49:31,000 –> 00:49:32,700
they’re on a show.
It’s like, yeah, no, that’s

1040
00:49:32,700 –> 00:49:34,400
actually not as crazy as you
might think it is.

1041
00:49:34,400 –> 00:49:36,000
Yeah, you can just Google
actors.

1042
00:49:36,000 –> 00:49:40,100
Who are also spies and you’ll
get a long list of Julia Child.

1043
00:49:40,300 –> 00:49:43,100
And it doesn’t necessarily mean
they were like full-on spies.

1044
00:49:43,100 –> 00:49:44,900
They were just like, at one
point, operator.

1045
00:49:44,900 –> 00:49:47,000
The CIA was left for something.
Yeah.

1046
00:49:47,000 –> 00:49:48,500
Point.
You know, they’re like well what

1047
00:49:48,500 –> 00:49:53,000
if y’all homosexuality that was
always the old trump card for

1048
00:49:53,000 –> 00:49:54,800
myself?
What homosexuality was it?

1049
00:49:54,808 –> 00:49:57,200
We’re better Photoshop.
Do you kind of 70?

1050
00:49:57,400 –> 00:49:59,100
So we got that.
There’s a lot of it.

1051
00:49:59,700 –> 00:50:03,600
Your extensive homosexuality.
Yeah, I always picture myself

1052
00:50:03,600 –> 00:50:07,100
trying to explain this to like
the quote unquote, normal people

1053
00:50:07,100 –> 00:50:09,300
in my world, you know?
I mean, and I think so easily

1054
00:50:09,300 –> 00:50:11,500
like my dad or, you know,
someone along those lines would

1055
00:50:11,500 –> 00:50:14,600
be like, honey, they need to
talk to the CIA so that they can

1056
00:50:14,600 –> 00:50:16,900
be accurate in the movie.
Where you what?

1057
00:50:17,000 –> 00:50:19,700
Yeah, like, yeah.
Like yeah, settle down

1058
00:50:19,700 –> 00:50:21,800
conspiracy your, you know what I
mean, right?

1059
00:50:21,800 –> 00:50:23,500
It’s too easy.
I don’t know.

1060
00:50:23,600 –> 00:50:25,700
Well, they try to be on the
up-and-up about it.

1061
00:50:25,700 –> 00:50:27,300
They have a link on their
website.

1062
00:50:27,400 –> 00:50:31,700
Site where you can send them a
request for consulting services

1063
00:50:31,700 –> 00:50:35,400
on your upcoming Hollywood film.
And it may cause I’m shooting a

1064
00:50:35,408 –> 00:50:36,800
Vine.
I was wondering.

1065
00:50:37,600 –> 00:50:39,600
Do you have to go be a fun thing
to just submit?

1066
00:50:39,600 –> 00:50:43,800
Yeah, a themed porno and we want
to know how fast do you guys

1067
00:50:43,800 –> 00:50:46,400
come.
And one of the movies that comes

1068
00:50:46,400 –> 00:50:49,800
up when they mention that as
Zero Dark Thirty and it makes

1069
00:50:49,800 –> 00:50:53,400
sense to me that the CIA would
want to be like, they basically

1070
00:50:53,400 –> 00:50:57,500
described like the interactions
around that movie, The They

1071
00:50:57,500 –> 00:51:01,100
basically picked the one movie
about that that they thought was

1072
00:51:01,100 –> 00:51:03,500
going to make them look the best
and then just supplied more

1073
00:51:03,500 –> 00:51:07,600
information because that that
movies trash like all of those

1074
00:51:07,800 –> 00:51:11,300
Kathryn Bigelow’s, movies are
government propaganda and they

1075
00:51:11,300 –> 00:51:13,500
are trash.
The Hurt Locker was fucking

1076
00:51:13,500 –> 00:51:15,100
garbage.
Yeah, Zero Dark.

1077
00:51:15,100 –> 00:51:18,200
Thirty was probably garbage.
I gave up after The Hurt Locker,

1078
00:51:18,400 –> 00:51:21,500
I don’t remember what the other.
There’s one in the middle there,

1079
00:51:21,600 –> 00:51:25,800
but if in reading this article
like, especially with Zero Dark

1080
00:51:25,800 –> 00:51:30,500
Thirty one, one, Basically says
yeah, whoever consulted her on

1081
00:51:30,500 –> 00:51:34,300
that movie was of the opinion
that torture is what helped us

1082
00:51:34,300 –> 00:51:37,000
find Bin Laden.
Yeah, and that movie when it

1083
00:51:37,000 –> 00:51:39,900
came out, got a lot of criticism
for that, for basically being a

1084
00:51:39,900 –> 00:51:42,600
pro torture film.
But it got criticism among

1085
00:51:42,600 –> 00:51:46,500
people like us but like
motherfuckers in the Midwest and

1086
00:51:46,500 –> 00:51:48,100
in the fucking Oscar, the big
bad.

1087
00:51:48,100 –> 00:51:50,400
Yeah.
Like people in the Midwest and

1088
00:51:50,400 –> 00:51:53,600
in the South and in all these
areas, who aren’t living in are

1089
00:51:53,600 –> 00:51:57,200
curated liberal bubble were just
like, yeah, man, the CIA.

1090
00:51:57,300 –> 00:51:58,400
Fucking great.
Yeah.

1091
00:51:58,700 –> 00:52:00,800
Do what you gotta do, right?
Exactly.

1092
00:52:00,800 –> 00:52:03,000
And 24 is another.
Again, you’re not allowed to

1093
00:52:03,000 –> 00:52:06,200
like, not like the truth.
Like that’s you can’t be in

1094
00:52:06,200 –> 00:52:09,200
public office and be like, yeah,
I don’t think you should be a

1095
00:52:09,207 –> 00:52:11,000
troop.
Yeah, you know, like the thing

1096
00:52:11,000 –> 00:52:14,800
is, it’s about heroic action and
drama in, you know, story and

1097
00:52:14,800 –> 00:52:18,000
narrative demands, steaks and
dramatic action and heroic

1098
00:52:18,000 –> 00:52:21,500
action and people to do things
for Pure purposes.

1099
00:52:21,500 –> 00:52:23,700
And for people to have clear
outcomes, that’s how stories

1100
00:52:23,700 –> 00:52:28,200
work and government work, or
bureaucracy or Information

1101
00:52:28,200 –> 00:52:31,100
gathering journalism Prosecuting
crimes.

1102
00:52:31,500 –> 00:52:34,200
Not a lot of dramatic Stakes
actually, actually the opposite

1103
00:52:34,200 –> 00:52:37,400
mostly just Gathering small
crumbs information, writing

1104
00:52:37,400 –> 00:52:40,600
reports doing things that are
very anticlimactic.

1105
00:52:40,600 –> 00:52:44,200
So what they’re doing is
manipulating the rally to seem

1106
00:52:44,300 –> 00:52:47,800
exciting and sexy and worthy of
narrative.

1107
00:52:47,900 –> 00:52:49,800
Well yeah, you like you there’s
a bad guy and he’s doing it

1108
00:52:49,800 –> 00:52:51,600
because this and we got to stop
him because this and we’re going

1109
00:52:51,600 –> 00:52:56,800
to do it with teamwork.
And then the end because people

1110
00:52:56,800 –> 00:52:59,800
just a People want a story to
latch onto and if they don’t

1111
00:52:59,800 –> 00:53:01,800
have a story to latch onto
something, then they don’t

1112
00:53:01,800 –> 00:53:03,400
understand it.
And they, if they don’t

1113
00:53:03,400 –> 00:53:05,900
understand it, then they don’t
want to fund it and you don’t

1114
00:53:05,900 –> 00:53:08,800
want to support it and they
don’t want to let it exists.

1115
00:53:08,900 –> 00:53:12,800
You know what I mean?
Yeah and I I wish I was that

1116
00:53:12,800 –> 00:53:15,100
it’s like with NASA.
If NASA, if they’d never landed

1117
00:53:15,100 –> 00:53:17,500
on the moon, do you think people
would want to give them money if

1118
00:53:17,500 –> 00:53:19,800
we had not landed on the moon?
Yeah, if we want to, if we

1119
00:53:19,800 –> 00:53:22,800
landed on the moon of them, a
fucking dime, if we landed on

1120
00:53:22,800 –> 00:53:23,500
the moon.
Oh sure.

1121
00:53:23,500 –> 00:53:27,200
Okay, fair enough?
Yeah, absolutely.

1122
00:53:27,400 –> 00:53:30,000
This is above your head.
What we only want to save cute

1123
00:53:30,000 –> 00:53:32,100
animals.
We only want to fund NASA if

1124
00:53:32,100 –> 00:53:34,800
they’re going to put man on the
moon and we only want to support

1125
00:53:34,800 –> 00:53:37,600
the CIA if they’re killing
people and racking up skulls,

1126
00:53:37,600 –> 00:53:40,500
you know, cut racking up heads.
Yeah, one of the things they

1127
00:53:40,500 –> 00:53:43,600
also mentioned 24 is being a
show that helped like make

1128
00:53:43,600 –> 00:53:45,600
rendition and torture and black
sites.

1129
00:53:45,600 –> 00:53:48,800
All seem like, that’s what
America has to do for in adore.

1130
00:53:48,800 –> 00:53:52,400
It’s yeah, totally normal or,
but I think 24 was at least

1131
00:53:52,400 –> 00:53:56,000
entertaining like my one of my
favorite TV moments of all time.

1132
00:53:56,000 –> 00:54:00,600
Jack Bauer Has this husband and
wife tied up, and he pulls a gun

1133
00:54:00,600 –> 00:54:04,500
and says his classic, tell me
who you’re working for line and

1134
00:54:04,500 –> 00:54:06,100
the husband’s like, you can
shoot me.

1135
00:54:06,100 –> 00:54:09,100
I don’t give a fuck, and Jack
Bauer points.

1136
00:54:09,100 –> 00:54:12,200
The gun looks at the husband,
then moves the gun over a little

1137
00:54:12,200 –> 00:54:15,400
and shoots, his wife in the knee
and the guy is like, goddamn.

1138
00:54:15,400 –> 00:54:16,600
Okay?
Wow.

1139
00:54:16,600 –> 00:54:18,600
Yeah.
And I’m America’s like, yeah,

1140
00:54:18,600 –> 00:54:20,500
we’re behind it.
I hated Bush.

1141
00:54:20,500 –> 00:54:22,600
But in that moment I was like,
oh fuck yeah.

1142
00:54:22,700 –> 00:54:24,900
Oh yeah.
We’re gonna catch somebody now

1143
00:54:25,000 –> 00:54:27,700
and like that shit that has an
Pack.

1144
00:54:27,700 –> 00:54:31,700
That’s why I would like to look
into the the funding behind the

1145
00:54:31,700 –> 00:54:36,000
sicario sequel because the
sicario sequel, sicario was

1146
00:54:36,000 –> 00:54:39,300
great movie about like drug
traffickers and shit in Mexico

1147
00:54:39,300 –> 00:54:42,200
and drug cartels.
But the sequel, which just came

1148
00:54:42,200 –> 00:54:46,700
out this year is about drug
cartels like using helicopters

1149
00:54:46,700 –> 00:54:49,300
to smuggle Middle Eastern
terrorists into the United

1150
00:54:49,300 –> 00:54:51,900
States.
And I’m like that probably

1151
00:54:51,900 –> 00:54:54,500
happens a whole lot less Steven
Seagal.

1152
00:54:54,500 –> 00:54:56,500
Wrote a book about that and it
is like news.

1153
00:54:56,500 –> 00:54:58,900
New book is called I’d like the
way of the Shadow wolves and

1154
00:54:58,900 –> 00:55:01,400
it’s about like people like like
smuggling Jihad is through

1155
00:55:01,400 –> 00:55:04,200
Mexico, you know, to try to make
like, well, yeah, we got border

1156
00:55:04,200 –> 00:55:06,800
security had to make border
security clean that wall.

1157
00:55:06,800 –> 00:55:10,900
So and it like the sicario
sequel, I refuse to go see it

1158
00:55:10,900 –> 00:55:14,200
because I feel like it’s
anti-immigration propaganda that

1159
00:55:14,200 –> 00:55:17,800
this country doesn’t need right
now and I would be interested to

1160
00:55:17,800 –> 00:55:22,200
see where the funding in
consultancy work on that came

1161
00:55:22,200 –> 00:55:23,900
from.
I should look into that and it’s

1162
00:55:23,900 –> 00:55:27,200
such a, it’s such a laugh
because basically the government

1163
00:55:27,900 –> 00:55:29,600
You know, taking over
Afghanistan.

1164
00:55:29,600 –> 00:55:32,600
Cause the heroin boom, that
killed so many people in this

1165
00:55:32,600 –> 00:55:35,800
gun, we’ve caused everything we
complain about from illegal

1166
00:55:35,800 –> 00:55:38,200
immigration to drugs to
homelessness.

1167
00:55:38,200 –> 00:55:41,800
We caused all of it.
Yeah, like especially also like

1168
00:55:41,800 –> 00:55:45,200
to talk about all the propaganda
that was created in the 60s and

1169
00:55:45,200 –> 00:55:47,500
70s against government
Healthcare.

1170
00:55:47,500 –> 00:55:50,800
Its government of mental health
institutions and how that, you

1171
00:55:50,800 –> 00:55:53,200
know, facilitated Reagan to
close all those places.

1172
00:55:53,200 –> 00:55:54,400
Yeah.
And it’s a mystery.

1173
00:55:54,500 –> 00:55:56,700
Yeah, I’d love to talk about how
people are bigoted against

1174
00:55:56,700 –> 00:55:57,500
mental.
Health.

1175
00:55:57,500 –> 00:55:59,800
And yeah, drugs.
And we’ve talked about it.

1176
00:56:00,000 –> 00:56:02,200
Oh, it’s a black.
Yeah, we’ve talked about here

1177
00:56:02,200 –> 00:56:04,700
like men complain about like
women and I’m like, you realize,

1178
00:56:04,700 –> 00:56:06,900
this is all yours.
It’s like they’re so insecure as

1179
00:56:06,900 –> 00:56:09,900
like, well, yeah, we told them,
they were ugly for 2,000 years,

1180
00:56:10,100 –> 00:56:11,600
you know, it’s like, oh,
they’re, they’re jealous.

1181
00:56:11,600 –> 00:56:15,300
It’s like what we cheated on
them and life, or my generation.

1182
00:56:15,300 –> 00:56:17,500
Women are like, oh my God, guys
don’t understand feminized.

1183
00:56:17,500 –> 00:56:19,900
And I’m like, oh, the guys that
we grew up with that grub with

1184
00:56:19,900 –> 00:56:23,400
Dax suck it in the first
internet porn and Jenna Jameson.

1185
00:56:23,400 –> 00:56:26,800
They don’t understand feminist.
They don’t know crazy and a

1186
00:56:26,808 –> 00:56:29,600
merry widow.
Rambo’s and just so weird how

1187
00:56:29,600 –> 00:56:32,000
that happened.
But yeah, it’s just oh my God.

1188
00:56:32,000 –> 00:56:34,700
I saw Garden State and did you
know that like drugs, like mask

1189
00:56:34,700 –> 00:56:38,100
your personality do, you know
that like stop you from being

1190
00:56:38,100 –> 00:56:39,900
your true self.
That’s what anti-anxiety meds

1191
00:56:39,900 –> 00:56:41,100
do.
Well, I thought they just made

1192
00:56:41,100 –> 00:56:42,800
you fall in a fucking
dishwasher.

1193
00:56:42,800 –> 00:56:44,700
I don’t remember the movie that.
Well, yeah.

1194
00:56:44,700 –> 00:56:46,500
That’s the only thing I caught
ya.

1195
00:56:46,500 –> 00:56:50,100
I know 24 for sure was like,
that was like a, they probably

1196
00:56:50,100 –> 00:56:52,700
got some, some tax breaks.
No, like yeah, just make them

1197
00:56:52,700 –> 00:56:55,300
cool, you know, and then just
the yeah, and they can look cool

1198
00:56:55,300 –> 00:56:56,600
guy.
It’s an ego thing because the

1199
00:56:56,600 –> 00:56:58,600
CIA a is like a fraternal
Brotherhood.

1200
00:56:58,600 –> 00:57:01,200
Basically, it’s like the post-op
it’s meets Skull and Bones,

1201
00:57:01,200 –> 00:57:02,700
right?
Like, once those agents are in

1202
00:57:02,700 –> 00:57:05,400
there, you’ll see all these
stories about CIA agents that

1203
00:57:05,400 –> 00:57:07,000
were career.
Alcoholics.

1204
00:57:07,000 –> 00:57:10,200
Horrible people incompetent
would lead briefcases full of

1205
00:57:10,207 –> 00:57:12,300
classified documents on New York
City Subways because they were

1206
00:57:12,300 –> 00:57:14,400
drunk.
Mmm, not like that.

1207
00:57:14,500 –> 00:57:17,200
But they don’t get fired because
it’s a Brotherhood because it’s

1208
00:57:17,200 –> 00:57:19,800
seen as your part of this and
actors, especially male

1209
00:57:19,800 –> 00:57:22,500
heterosexual.
Actors, often feel emasculated

1210
00:57:22,500 –> 00:57:24,400
and told that you’re a pussy or
faggot.

1211
00:57:24,400 –> 00:57:28,300
So then they get into this sort
of Masculine stuff up the

1212
00:57:28,300 –> 00:57:30,100
military.
The police the CIA.

1213
00:57:30,100 –> 00:57:32,900
Yeah, and their ego is soaked,
and they feel like one of the

1214
00:57:32,900 –> 00:57:35,500
boys and then they’re like, oh
yeah, these guys are great.

1215
00:57:35,500 –> 00:57:38,100
These guys are my brothers on
the images and with them growing

1216
00:57:38,100 –> 00:57:40,600
up on a cul-de-sac, where that
was very much the culture with

1217
00:57:40,600 –> 00:57:42,700
my male neighbors.
It’s like some of the shit I

1218
00:57:42,700 –> 00:57:44,100
did.
I’m like, man, I really just

1219
00:57:44,100 –> 00:57:46,600
through dog shit at my friend
because I didn’t want to be a

1220
00:57:46,600 –> 00:57:51,600
bitch.
Like I’m sick of everyone saying

1221
00:57:51,600 –> 00:57:54,300
that I make out with Matt Damon.
I’m going to be a CIA boy.

1222
00:57:54,400 –> 00:57:58,200
Yeah and it’s it makes sense.
The CIA would Want to control

1223
00:57:58,200 –> 00:58:01,500
the narrative on, you know, how
they’re portrayed in Hollywood.

1224
00:58:01,500 –> 00:58:04,300
But it’s just such a dangerous
thing because of the things that

1225
00:58:04,300 –> 00:58:07,900
they’re, they normalize in the
things they make seem like,

1226
00:58:08,100 –> 00:58:12,400
well, this is America and this
is what we do and it’s like we

1227
00:58:12,408 –> 00:58:15,300
don’t necessarily have to do
that like was probably other

1228
00:58:15,300 –> 00:58:17,500
ways.
Yeah, and there’s yeah, and

1229
00:58:17,500 –> 00:58:19,800
there are more effective ways.
It’s a lot more effective to

1230
00:58:19,800 –> 00:58:21,600
become friends with your torture
subject.

1231
00:58:21,600 –> 00:58:28,100
Sorry Terror suspect then It’s
hard.

1232
00:58:28,100 –> 00:58:30,500
I’m a little tired of the
morning, you know, that’s the

1233
00:58:30,500 –> 00:58:32,000
way to really to get them to
trust.

1234
00:58:32,000 –> 00:58:34,500
You is the way that you actually
usually do get more reliable

1235
00:58:34,500 –> 00:58:35,600
information on.
Yeah, mm.

1236
00:58:36,100 –> 00:58:39,100
You want to be a cool guy.
He’ll be out the fucking man.

1237
00:58:39,100 –> 00:58:40,800
Yeah, it’s like yeah, it’s like
I’m on your side.

1238
00:58:40,800 –> 00:58:42,900
He’s like, well, you know, you
get your kids here, don’t you

1239
00:58:42,900 –> 00:58:44,500
want them to go to a nice
school?

1240
00:58:44,500 –> 00:58:47,000
If we you know, give you a good
deal then your kids.

1241
00:58:47,000 –> 00:58:51,600
What if we gave you a sick type
in with logo on it?

1242
00:58:51,800 –> 00:58:55,000
A Filipino spring dick figurine?
Yeah, yeah.

1243
00:58:55,000 –> 00:58:56,700
Yeah.
Filipino would doll.

1244
00:58:56,900 –> 00:58:58,400
All right.
Right after the meeting, you can

1245
00:58:58,400 –> 00:59:03,500
go take two things out of the
treasure chest, Walther PPK in

1246
00:59:03,500 –> 00:59:06,400
the fucking a blow dart gun full
of roofies.

1247
00:59:06,400 –> 00:59:09,800
Nice, cool.
So where does everyone stand on

1248
00:59:09,800 –> 00:59:12,800
the idea that the CIA
influences, the media?

1249
00:59:12,800 –> 00:59:15,500
That’s usually how these
podcasts and we decide if we

1250
00:59:15,500 –> 00:59:18,200
believe this shit or not, I’m
very much, I believe it.

1251
00:59:18,200 –> 00:59:23,200
Yeah, they definitely believe it
Laura we did when I was like,

1252
00:59:23,200 –> 00:59:27,100
yep, the CIA conspired to get in
touch with.

1253
00:59:27,200 –> 00:59:30,200
Number of journalists in order
to influence, public opinion

1254
00:59:30,200 –> 00:59:32,900
about both the cia’s actions,
and all of the government’s

1255
00:59:32,900 –> 00:59:34,800
military actions at home and
abroad.

1256
00:59:34,900 –> 00:59:37,600
Yes, of course, they did course
they did.

1257
00:59:37,600 –> 00:59:40,500
That’s part of their operations.
But again at the end of the day,

1258
00:59:40,800 –> 00:59:43,700
unlike the KGB, the CIA has
never been able to arrest.

1259
00:59:43,700 –> 00:59:46,000
Anyone, they have no powers to
arrest people or charged him

1260
00:59:46,000 –> 00:59:47,800
with crimes.
They can just kill them and

1261
00:59:47,900 –> 00:59:49,700
keep, yeah.
They just shoot them in the head

1262
00:59:49,700 –> 00:59:52,700
in the Public Square and then
the cars kept off into a

1263
00:59:52,700 –> 00:59:54,800
Peugeot.
Well, you know what, I’d rather

1264
00:59:54,800 –> 00:59:57,900
be had my head blown off in a
Public Square Are then be held

1265
00:59:57,900 –> 01:00:01,100
indefinitely in a Detention
Center or by the FBI.

1266
01:00:01,100 –> 01:00:19,900
A Fisher
pillow over my head in the

1267
01:00:19,900 –> 01:00:21,900
middle of the night.
I’m going for poisoned by

1268
01:00:21,900 –> 01:00:28,000
Russia, that wire garrotte wire
at Central Market.

1269
01:00:28,000 –> 01:00:29,600
During the day, Stalin had a
thing.

1270
01:00:29,600 –> 01:00:32,000
Where one of the agents would
give a guys, like Willie likes

1271
01:00:32,000 –> 01:00:37,000
chocolate, doesn’t he give this
guy 2 box of chocolates and a

1272
01:00:37,008 –> 01:00:39,700
word loaded with dynamite under
the chocolate blow up and

1273
01:00:39,900 –> 01:00:41,900
exploded him in a square?
And I thought they’re going to

1274
01:00:41,908 –> 01:00:44,400
put like ricin in a black pussy.
Yeah.

1275
01:00:45,200 –> 01:00:48,400
Explosives in the chocolate box.
I want exploding chocolate box

1276
01:00:48,400 –> 01:00:49,900
because I would never see that
coming.

1277
01:00:50,000 –> 01:00:53,300
Yeah, that it would all be fun
or go hit a CIA.

1278
01:00:53,300 –> 01:00:54,500
Yes.
Owns going to send you some

1279
01:00:54,500 –> 01:01:01,000
joints and it’s going to be like
a dynamite Yeah, Elmer Fudd and

1280
01:01:01,000 –> 01:01:03,700
cheese.
Yeah, we’re like the coyote

1281
01:01:03,800 –> 01:01:06,900
getting blown up next week’s
episode, which is a patreon only

1282
01:01:06,900 –> 01:01:11,100
episode kind of continues this
conversation and we’re talking

1283
01:01:11,100 –> 01:01:15,500
about the CIA and the Copeland
family, the Copeland family

1284
01:01:15,500 –> 01:01:20,800
miles, Copeland was the fat,
like one of the founding members

1285
01:01:20,800 –> 01:01:25,500
of the CIA, he was the head of
CIA at one point and he has so

1286
01:01:25,500 –> 01:01:30,400
many ties to Really like early
80s music like REM the police

1287
01:01:30,400 –> 01:01:33,000
shit like that.
One of his kids founded a record

1288
01:01:33,000 –> 01:01:36,100
label called IRS irony to is
Radio free.

1289
01:01:36,100 –> 01:01:39,400
Europe was an out and every
create a government thing and

1290
01:01:39,400 –> 01:01:42,200
then that’s a handsome.
Yeah, hilarious.

1291
01:01:42,200 –> 01:01:44,800
It just pretty great.
And Roxanne.

1292
01:01:44,900 –> 01:01:47,500
Yeah, the police I’m in ISM,
doesn’t work.

1293
01:01:49,700 –> 01:01:50,400
Yeah.
Stewart.

1294
01:01:50,400 –> 01:01:53,300
Copeland years of Brahma, red
light, but he was saying because

1295
01:01:53,300 –> 01:01:55,900
he was like, yeah, let me know
if there’s Communists in the

1296
01:01:55,900 –> 01:02:00,600
room.
Historical Biblical reference of

1297
01:02:00,600 –> 01:02:04,300
the red light is I do not.
Where’s the story from the Old

1298
01:02:04,300 –> 01:02:08,000
Testament about a prostitute.
Putting a red light in her

1299
01:02:08,000 –> 01:02:12,400
window to signal to and is
Jewish Soldier.

1300
01:02:12,400 –> 01:02:15,300
Start told her of David about
whether these troops are gone

1301
01:02:15,300 –> 01:02:17,900
through or not before.
Yeah, so that’s why the red

1302
01:02:17,900 –> 01:02:21,500
light district was prostitutes,
put red lights in their window

1303
01:02:22,200 –> 01:02:28,100
as if the juice of God because
of God Sustained was just saying

1304
01:02:28,100 –> 01:02:30,400
there were no Jews in the area,
so you can leave that red light

1305
01:02:30,400 –> 01:02:34,200
on the coast is clear.
You can leave the house

1306
01:02:34,200 –> 01:02:37,000
anti-semitic sting.
Oh yeah, I thought that

1307
01:02:37,000 –> 01:02:41,000
kristallnacht album was a weird
name for a reggae compilation,

1308
01:02:41,000 –> 01:02:44,100
but sure.
So that’s our episode next week,

1309
01:02:44,100 –> 01:02:47,800
we’re talking about the Copeland
family on a patreon.

1310
01:02:47,800 –> 01:02:50,000
Only episode.
So subscribe.

1311
01:02:50,000 –> 01:02:52,100
If you want to hear that
motherfucker me and Adam

1312
01:02:52,100 –> 01:02:54,100
probably just talk about Joy
vision for some.

1313
01:02:54,100 –> 01:02:57,300
Yeah, I just realized putting
this tally of my head Ed how

1314
01:02:57,300 –> 01:02:59,200
much I mentioned Israel and the
Jews.

1315
01:02:59,200 –> 01:03:04,100
And I just look like such a
fucking nut space.

1316
01:03:04,100 –> 01:03:08,400
Yeah, I love the Jews.
Please.

1317
01:03:08,400 –> 01:03:10,300
Hire me and media and
entertainment.

1318
01:03:14,900 –> 01:03:18,900
I’m just I’m just a big old
Kidder.

1319
01:03:18,900 –> 01:03:22,100
I think it’s my, my record is
pretty is I don’t think anyone

1320
01:03:22,100 –> 01:03:23,600
knows what I actually believe
now.

1321
01:03:23,800 –> 01:03:26,000
So what do we have to plug
before we get out of here?

1322
01:03:26,000 –> 01:03:28,900
Connor, what do you got?
No fucking mean, boys.

1323
01:03:29,300 –> 01:03:34,200
My website and chose spooky
jokes for kids coming back.

1324
01:03:34,200 –> 01:03:38,100
October 1st.
Laura, what do you have to plug?

1325
01:03:38,500 –> 01:03:40,500
I got a show on Saturday at the
Corbin Bowl.

1326
01:03:40,500 –> 01:03:42,700
That’s going to be fun.
It’s a bowling alley /.

1327
01:03:42,700 –> 01:03:46,100
Comedy venue but listen to The
next in eccentricities people

1328
01:03:46,100 –> 01:03:48,700
are listening to that we are
going to be doing that spy

1329
01:03:48,700 –> 01:03:50,700
episode soon.
We got a lot of amazing stuff.

1330
01:03:50,700 –> 01:03:53,000
I actually got contacted one of
the guests Brothers, the phone

1331
01:03:53,000 –> 01:03:54,600
freaker.
Matthew Eichmann we’re having a

1332
01:03:54,700 –> 01:03:56,600
nice we’re having a piss
tasting.

1333
01:03:56,900 –> 01:03:59,000
We’re going to blindfold piss
test, you know, which they’re

1334
01:03:59,000 –> 01:04:00,500
going to sneak some asparagus in
there.

1335
01:04:03,500 –> 01:04:06,100
Lee Anne, what do you have to
plug a jackass?

1336
01:04:06,100 –> 01:04:07,900
Well, every day.
I’m going through my midlife

1337
01:04:07,900 –> 01:04:10,000
crisis, so that’s right.
Entertaining.

1338
01:04:10,300 –> 01:04:12,500
And then, I think next Wednesday
is today, Wednesday.

1339
01:04:12,500 –> 01:04:14,900
So week from today, I’m at The
Comedy Store in the Be room,

1340
01:04:14,900 –> 01:04:15,900
eight.
People are nice.

1341
01:04:16,600 –> 01:04:18,500
All right, let’s get the fuck
out of here.

1342
01:04:18,500 –> 01:04:22,000
Leanne Say Goodbye.
Oh I don’t have a big sign off

1343
01:04:22,000 –> 01:04:24,500
Italy and took her.
I said goodbye.

1344
01:04:24,600 –> 01:04:25,700
Goodbye!
God damn it.

1345
01:04:25,700 –> 01:04:27,900
Carla the Jews!
Goodbye Connor say goodbye.

1346
01:04:28,500 –> 01:04:31,200
Shalom, Laura Mekka lekka.
Hi Mekka.

1347
01:04:31,200 –> 01:04:34,000
Hiney ho Laura, Crawford,
goodbye everybody.

1348
01:04:34,000 –> 01:04:34,800
We love Jews.