Conspiracy! The Show Courtney Love and MKUltra

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Welcome to conspiracy the show
with your host, added Todd Brown

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and Connor mcspadden.
Hey everybody, Welcome to

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conspiracy the show.
I’m Adam, Todd Brown.

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I’m Connor mcspadden.
Who are you?

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I’m Travis fucking Clark.
You’re here again.

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How didn’t leave?
Yeah, you’re not my real dad.

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It doesn’t matter because it’s a
podcast but still true.

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Yeah, it is true.
Although how’s everyone been

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since we recorded last like five
ten minutes ago, Go little more

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hydrated as Schilling.
Yeah.

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Smoke some cigarettes.
We drank some water.

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Yep, we’re killing it.
Yeah, man.

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And now we’re ready to talk
about Courtney.

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Love possibly being a CIA
operative.

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Speaking of killing it.
This is everything in this

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episode comes from the same
book.

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We referenced last time drugs as
a weapon against us by mr.

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Potash by mr.
Potash, which is just sounds

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like a terrible.
Double like breakfast dish,

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that’s review and the South
like, oh yeah potash, it’s just

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potato skin, just the skin and
then it makes it with like pig

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feet potash and hash.
Yeah.

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But a hash in there, too.
And this is a book that I

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suspect on this podcast, we’re
going to get about 25 episodes

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out of because it’s a billion
pages long and it covers so many

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different things.
But today, specifically we’re

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talking about Courtney Love.
And the possibility that she was

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as part of the MKUltra program.
Our favorite mind control

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program on this podcast and then
there’s stiff competition.

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Yeah, there’s a lot.
Is it – troll but controls with

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the K?
Is that when M K stands for

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know?
I went through we went get what?

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It was last time.
Yeah.

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There was the MK.
Yeah, I don’t remember.

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I mean, MKUltra, does sound like
one of those low carb ears?

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I’ve been MK Ultra Man been
really, you know.

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Yeah.
I’ve been, you know, I’ve been

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trying to take care of myself.
I’ve been meditating and

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drinking MKUltra.
This is a quote from drugs as a

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weapon against us.
Despite some singing Talent,

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much of loves life makes her
appear, a fantasy driven, drug

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addict seeking Glory by
marrying, a rock star or

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becoming one however closer
scrutiny suggests.

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She may have been groomed or
conditioned from an early age

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age to carry out some us
intelligence tasks.

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So buckle up listeners.
Okay.

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Yeah.
First off off the bat, that is a

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crazy sentence.
This is not your grandfather’s

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Kurt Cobain now Spira, see ya?
This is like, okay.

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That’s a pretty crazy Theory and
then it gets crazier.

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That’s the thing about MKUltra,
I bring it up.

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Whenever people are dismissive
of conspiracy conspiracy

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theories in general, Like
sometimes this shit is real.

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Yeah.
I mean they did it for like 30

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years a long time, you know,
when it was first found out,

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they the government’s big
sticking point is people were

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like hey the government’s doing
this massive like mind-control

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experimentation thing in the
government was like, it’s not

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massive, it’s you, but then we
found dr.

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In Focus.
But then we found documents that

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revealed that it was like a
nationwide thing that went Into

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other countries.
Well what broke the MKUltra

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story?
Miss filing some of the records

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for it because a lot of them had
been destroyed in that other

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ones that were kind of like a
transferred over from just like

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a dutiful fire clerk who’s like,
oh yeah we got some of your

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peanut butter and our chocolate
and then someone far the Freedom

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of Information Act request and
then and that’s how we got like

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a sliver of what was actually a
comment about it.

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And if you watch the wormwood
doc, I was gonna say wormwood is

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part of this, right, right.
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That I think a lot of it
probably came out through the

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course of that investigation of
Courtney Love.

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Through a guy out of a hotel.
Exactly.

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She’s going to see ya.
She dangled him by his ankles

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like Suge Knight.
Courtney Love, is the comedian

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from Watchmen.
So yeah, that is a crazy ass

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quote, but this is not as crazy
of a theory as it.

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See, it’s crazy, but it’s not as
implausible as it sounds

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especially given what we know
about MKUltra which anyone

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listening to this.
If you’re listening for the

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first time, go back and listen
to our MKUltra episodes and

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learn up on that shit.
Yeah there there’s some fun ones

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really does sound like it’s like
it’s a high reward point.

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Oh yeah to get the MK Ultra
episodes.

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Those are the.
Yeah, it’s also trying to upsell

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you on a Pontiac.
It’s like, well, if you get the

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MKUltra suspension it’s
guaranteed for three years.

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It comes with a sunroof.
Yeah.

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So let’s talk about Linda
Carroll little Elsie.

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She is Courtney.
Love’s mom.

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Not hot mom.
Like we saw a ladder.

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Yeah, just Courtney Love’s,
plain-ass mom.

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But although I bet she was all
right, I don’t know.

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It took a lot of Kurt to make
Francis pretty That’s pretty

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funny.
Yeah, Courtney is aggressively.

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Not my type.
She’s, you know, friends is just

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doesn’t really like, she’s like,
yeah, I don’t know, like, dumbs

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a good song, but I don’t really
like Nirvana.

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Yeah, which fuck her Nirvana is
a good band.

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Yeah, the run is a good shut up.
What are you talking about it?

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So, it’s out of his birthday is
like, it gets to be a little

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call.
Kurt Cobain’s daughter, an

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idiot.
Yeah, it’s good to be on here,

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shut up, you half orphan Horton.
So Linda Carroll, she was the

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adopted daughter of a family
with major Stock Holdings in

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both the Bausch & Lomb company
and gold mining.

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What Rich fam not gold-digging
America.

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Oh, conspiracy Dice Clay, she
gave birth to Courtney,

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Michelle?
Harrison on July 9th, 1962, that

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doesn’t fit it all more.
Like whoreson Ojos you get it

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fact.
Courtney Love is the exact same

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astrological sign of Every crazy
person I’ve ever dated?

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Well, that’s proof right there
that she killed somebody.

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Yeah, no way.
You’re in astrology guy.

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Now, I’m into it.
Are you really?

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Yeah, I believe it.
I’m into it.

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I think it’s very accurate
astrology.

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Astronomy astrology.
Sure.

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I think people signs are
actually a representation of

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what their personality is like,
because anytime I tell people,

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I’m a Pisces, they’re like, oh,
you might kill yourself someday

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and I’m like, yeah, that’s
accurate, I guess you’re right.

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Yeah.
But so I mean, I think maybe

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there’s something to the notion
that people born.

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It’s like November babies are
usually football players.

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Like I think liked it to the
like because there’s a certain

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age where if you’re born then
you just miss one year of school

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cut off.
So the fact that you’re a little

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bigger than the other kids, just
from how quickly you kind of

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develop as a very young child.
You have your more encouraged to

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go into sports and stuff like
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So, just most football players
are born in November.

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I don’t know if that’s the exact
month, but I think is a little

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bit of something like that, that
could be play, you know?

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But I mean, Further than that.
This this seems very

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uncharacteristic for somebody
for you to be into you know I

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host a conspiracy theory podcast
like 70% of them?

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Yeah amazing of Connor was like
I didn’t know idea.

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Yeah I just it just doesn’t seem
like it but I don’t I’m not

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begrudging you for mean I’m not
like d i don’t study it but I

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don’t disagree that.
There’s something to you

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astrological.
Signs in a person’s personality.

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You don’t disagree that a very
open-ended sentence could apply

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to almost anyone.
Exactly.

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Ok.
Cool just makes you a space

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racist.
You’re just discriminate you

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like I don’t date Pisces and
it’s like has that different

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than saying a black guy you’re a
space racist?

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That’s a good point.
I am a space racist.

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Get that drop.
So her dad.

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I never knew this Hank Harrison
briefly manage the Grateful Dead

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when they were still called.
Warlocks and sucked even more

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than they did when they became
the Grateful Dead.

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Yeah.
The Grateful Dead suck-ass do,

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yeah.
They were trash.

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I’m not a fan.
Don’t get it Grateful Dead.

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Bassist, Phil Lesh is her
Godfather.

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Her godmother.
On the other hand is a woman

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named El non winblad DeMarco.
What is obviously up to some

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shit with a name like that?
He’s a Warcraft villain

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windblade DeMarco the king of
the trolls, and DeMarcos husband

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was a right-wing type who Owned
a huge Ranch in Delano.

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California is Delano Delano.
Yeah don’t let what they got a

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good.
You got a good farming Museum

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there that I went to one time
and he was one of Migrant Farm

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worker organizer.
Cesar Chavez’s.

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Biggest foes?
Well, yeah.

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With a name, like wind blood
DeMarco.

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You can’t be a good guy.
Yeah.

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Courtney was born about 16
months before the acid tests at

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which the Grateful Dead
performed.

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That was the kinky shit, right?
That was the Ken Kesey’s.

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What is the acid test?
It what exactly do ninja Dropout

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all this shit, right?
Yeah, it was like the public

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version of MKUltra where they
were just like, hey what if we

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give everyone LSD, everyone’s
going to happen that like LSD

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was they figured out how to make
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It was just you got together.
You listen to a shitty band like

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Grateful Dead.
You’re like this is terrible.

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Yeah you took acid you’re like
that’s not so bad.

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Yeah.
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And what’s crazy about that,
that’s not unlike what happened

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with MKUltra MKUltra is a big
part of it was is just giving

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people acid and seeing what
happened and that’s what led to

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the Frank Olson murder and all
that shit.

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But what we also know about
MKUltra is a lot of it happened

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in San Francisco.
Yeah.

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Right.
Like they had brothel the CIA

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set up brothels in fucking drug
to people with LSD and it’s

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worth noting.
This conspiracy posits that not

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only is Courtney Love connected
to the CIA but was trained as a

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prostitute by the CIA.
Training that she need.

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I’m not.
He took to it like a champ,

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that’s not MKUltra.
Like the experiments were really

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on some like, Josef Mengele,
like throw a dart board at a

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body part and a crime.
And just what if we try to

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replace your tits with cats, you
know?

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And it was just, then they’re
just like, yeah, we’ll give you

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a heroine and see if you’re
better at math.

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Like, it was just a very random
but what’s crazy?

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As We Know It All Happened.
Yeah.

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And we know when and we know,
We’re and Courtney Love at at

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the very least.
Was there, she was in the area

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where all the MK Ultra shit was
really happening in San

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Francisco.
Yeah.

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And that’s the thing about on
the CBGB of him killed.

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Sure.
That’s the thing.

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Like the, the title of this
episode, sounds crazy.

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Yeah, as you go through it,
shit, kinda adds up like, it

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doesn’t sound that crazy.
The first being that she was

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raised in San Francisco by a
mother who had deep connections

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to the acid test scene and just
that movement in general and had

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that right when a shelter was
happening and had that bow and

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Loan cash she had some money I
don’t even remember that.

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Those two names they’re off,
they’re off the Google Doc now

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so I did.
Those are those were lost to me.

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Well good poll now, Shalom
thousand Glass people contact

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lenses and all that shit.
Oh, really?

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Yeah, fucking Deep Pockets.
So the Linda Carroll was in the

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book, says, intimately connected
to drug users in can Casey’s

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acid test scene where during
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There were MKUltra scientists
who showed up at these things

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because it is, would like a
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Could just like God damn it.
Why do we have to listen to the

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shit?
But that, yeah, that’s, that’s

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what we were doing.
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time, was just seeing what we
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So, Ken Kesey sitting around,
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Fucking was awesome.
I guess I’ll just go hang out

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with the dead now and drive
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Is that what’s happening?
I don’t know a lot about Ken

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Kasey Kahne because I see
fucking hate The Grateful Dead

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so much.
So the Magic Bus, which we all

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know the who song was about Ken
Kesey and the merry pranksters,

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who did the acid test the Drove
around in a school bus and just

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gave acid to people.
During the acid test shit you

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know who else did that the
American government?

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Well, I’m saying as just as a
whole that’s awful.

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Let’s see.
That’s that’s the thing.

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I mean there’s the bus wasn’t
decorated as fun.

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It was just a black van.
Yeah we’re kind of making jokes

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but what happened with the acid
test does parallel How MKUltra

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worked where they would just
give people acid and see what

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the fuck.
How’s this going?

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To go allegedly.
Someone who may be related to

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me?
In the military and are you

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alleging that they were in the
military?

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I’m alleging of the, what the
story is that there was a

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massive going around and in the
government in the, I’m sorry in

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the in the Army and they just
gave it to him and he stood on

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the desk and what I’m very tall
and made other people who were

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his subordinates, come in and
tell them that he was tall.

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Is he not really he’s about my
height but we stand on the desk

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is so great.
Ultra to me seems like a

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government experiment.
That did not go the way they

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expected fucking new on pops
podcast acid test, you get

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through it, okay.
Chet wild.

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Every week is a long way, down
locked, in a cage with

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children’s toys and we film him,
I would be into that.

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So courts, whole thing is like
Jacob’s Ladder, right?

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But it gets so much weirder,
like, we know her mom did have

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connections to that scene, a
scene.

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Their MKUltra was active.
Also in.

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This isn’t conspiracy theory
talk.

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These are Courtney Love’s own
words.

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One, she says she was given acid
at the age of three.

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Yep, cool.
She claims her, dad did it but

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there’s like all these
different.

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But also, what we do know, for
sure, her mom put her in

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Psychotherapy, at the age of
three.

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We only would have memories at
3:00.

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You don’t even you don’t have
the vocabulary to communicate,

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the complexities of your psyche.
I In, what are you going to draw

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a picture?
Like, what’s the, what’s the

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game plan there?
And at the time she put her in

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Psychotherapy, they were living
in San Francisco.

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Where a lot of the MKUltra stuff
was happening.

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And specifically, let me find
the guy’s name by just typing

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in.
John, John get injure.

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He is he’ll come up a lot more
in this, but he was one of the

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main MKUltra researchers and he
was a spy Psychiatrist based in

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San Francisco.
Yeah.

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And that gets important later
but Courtney Love claims at the

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age of three.
She was taken to a psychiatrist

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and her claims get crazier from
there but I just that’ll right.

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Yeah, that alone why are you
sending your kid to a

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psychiatrist of a bitch?
Did you have to be a three years

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old?
Was she like, I’m gonna kill,

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Kurt Cobain, I wanna grow up and
kill, Guan Eng.

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Okay, I wanted not Wait my own
album.

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I don’t even believe that one.
You don’t believe she didn’t

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write that album.
Now, I did I do.

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Yeah.
You think Kurt wrote it?

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I think Billy wrote it.
I think Billy wrote the second.

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One of the center One Celebrity
Skin.

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Okay.
Yeah.

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Billy Corgan himself is like
yeah.

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I was kind of just showing them
some shit.

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I was working on and didn’t
think that was going to end up

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on their album but whatever.
Hmm.

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And they do sound like Smashing
Pumpkins songs.

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That’s for sure.
So yeah.

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She was Raising Courtney Love in
San Francisco at this time.

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She also lived near Santa Clara
Valley.

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Medical Center a confirmed
MKUltra testing location,

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firmed.
Well, that’s the thing.

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It is.
That’s what’s so great about MK

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Ultra the shit is confirmed.
Yeah, because we got documents

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that proved it.
There were hundreds of hospitals

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out of his birthday drunk and
excited.

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There were hundreds of hospitals
around the country that

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participated in this.
Times they knew.

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Sometimes they did it.
That was the original Rick and

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Morty sauce and McDonald’s was
you had one to find it.

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I’m Kay Ultra hospital where you
could go get electrocuted.

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Like you go there and there’s
like a little check mark, like

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it’s verified.
Oh, it’s verified.

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Let’s get something the window.
You know, you got like a little

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like decal.
Like, there’s MKUltra piece of

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blotter paper.
What does that mean?

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What’s the window pane with a
check next to it?

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Yeah, so in federal hearings on
CIA projects in 1995, two women,

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Chris Di Nicola and Claudia
Mullen testified that they were

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victims of MKUltra experiments
in sub-project Monarch starting

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at the age of 3 years.
Old, sub-project Monarch 3 years

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old just like Courtney just like
Courtney Love.

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Hmm, that’s weird.
I love their bands though.

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Chris De Nicola and Claudia
Mullen.

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They were in Babes in Toyland.
I don’t think that’s true, it’s

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true either.
I citation needed such action

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needed, so di Nicola and Molly,
And testified that LSD trauma

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and hypnosis were used on them,
Trauma from infancy until the

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age of 16 to help.
Turn them into prostitutes.

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And assassins for the CIA,
you’re making like a gritty.

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Reboot of Charlie’s Angels, hear
his music.

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Yeah, try to turn you guys into
a TNT original drama.

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So, if you wouldn’t mind,
Rizzoli & Isles, but LSD and

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Trauma, and Mullen testified
that MK.

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Ultra Superstars, John getting
her.

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Aunt Sidney, Gottlieb.
Who we talked about a bunch on

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this podcast.
Did the experimental training on

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her.
Hmm.

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So now we have Sidney Gottlieb,
who we know at least was

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involved in the wormwood shit,
probably the Assassin in the

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wormwood shit.
Yeah and now his name is coming

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up in a John get injured.
The guy that we threw three year

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old Courtney to write it.
Fuck was working for Mk.

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Ultra cool.
Yeah.

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Has great.
And her Mullins account was

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detailed extensively in a book
called Mass control written by

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Jim Keith.
And that book also includes

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similar stories from two other
women.

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It also mentions a 1992, speech
bypass psychologist, dr.

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Corydon Hammond to an audience
of psychology professionals at a

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Regional Conference on abuse and
multiple personality Hammond.

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Interviewed therapist Nationwide
to find that in about two-thirds

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of ritual abuse cases per
Traders used quote.

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A highly developed in uniform
technology of mind control.

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And he further claimed that many
of these cases had connections

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to the CIA and Military and
employed a type of Technology

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originally created by the CIA.
And that’s what we know about

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MKUltra.
They were trying to develop mind

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control technology.
What is the idea?

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You give someone so much trauma.
They develop another personality

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and that’s the one that you’re
trying to activate will get to

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it.
Later, but that’s actually John

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get injured.
That was his Focus was split.

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Personalities is trying to like,
you know, how you can reboot

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your computer and start Linux.
You know he was trying to do

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that with like little slutty
kids or whatever and well yeah

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they died.
Slut they Ted slut training like

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this.
They went to like, slut,

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Cotillion.
That’s a government sent them

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to.
Yeah, it’s John getting her

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becomes really interesting in
this story, but the fact that he

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focused on personal And split
personalities, and then we’ll

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talk about it later.
But people like Kristen fath and

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Courtney Love’s own dad, have
gone on record and said that

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Courtney Love just kind of
Cycles in and out of different

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personalities and at some points
that personality is very

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violent.
Hmm, which cool so that’s

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interests what a fun lady.
Yeah.

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One of the groups that in this
speech Hammond claimed,

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Practice.
This was the process Church

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which was located in San
Francisco.

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They were tied to the Manson
family, how fun?

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Yeah.
Of course, other place that

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loved guns and violence and LSD
and split personalities.

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Yeah.
I I feel like if we did an

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episode about the Manson family
we’d find some shit where we

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were like the kind of with the
government kill Sharon Tate.

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There’s just a lot like they
did.

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They kind of pop up anything
that, you know, in the late

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20th, century and entertainment.
There’s always someone who knew

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someone in the Some family.
Oh yeah, for sure.

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Yeah.
The Souther question at this

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point.
Courtney Love enters

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Psychotherapy, at the age of
three, is that a normal thing or

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is it so crazy to suggest that
maybe it wasn’t MKUltra?

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What will it not a normal thing?
Well it does sound like some

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shit that parents in.
San Francisco would do is like

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start you off on Psychotherapy
the age of three.

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I think the proximity to these
facilities.

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You know and her family’s
background kind of suggests that

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they she seems like a A likely
candidate?

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Yeah, it’s, I mean, it’s all
circumstantial evidence, but

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people go to prison over
circumstantial evidence.

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I’m not.
Here’s who worried about that

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Devil’s Advocate.
Could she have just been a

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problem?
Child.

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This isn’t your ring.
Hey, devil, how are you bud?

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I’m doing good, but it’s good to
see you sound like my friend.

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Alex Joe.
Yeah, yeah.

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Well today, he’s one of my
favorite vessels to communicate

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through.
Well, I just wanted to propose

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this question.
Do you think it could just be a

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wealthy family have with a
difficult child?

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In the idea, is go fix her brain
because we can’t get her to do

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something, you know.
Courtney Love is a saint.

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I’m Scott personally spend
thousands of hours talking with

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her over a cover shade-grown,
Arabica, bean coffee and I found

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her to be very personable and
there’s no sign that she was a

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difficult child.
I’ve done it.

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Yeah, I mean that is possible.
But thanks devil who said the

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problems a three year old 2
cycle?

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Therapy, that’s rich, people who
can afford to, I was just in San

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Francisco people in San
Francisco, do we?

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Yeah, I mean, that’s especially
like, at this time when this

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kind of shit is all very new and
hip, you know, right but it’s it

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is also still happening in the
area where MKUltra was happening

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and we’ll talk more about John,
get injured and I think John

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getting her was the
psychiatrist.

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Courtney Love was sent to, hmm,
that’s that kind of becomes the

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implication here and at that
point, whatever reason they sent

436
00:23:49,800 –> 00:23:53,400
her to psychotherapy, what’s
really important is what

437
00:23:53,400 –> 00:23:56,500
happened to her during that
Psychotherapy.

438
00:23:56,600 –> 00:23:59,900
I like the idea though of this
family, this family with wealthy

439
00:23:59,900 –> 00:24:03,400
means the young daughter and
they hear about MKUltra in

440
00:24:03,408 –> 00:24:04,700
there.
Like, we need to plan for her

441
00:24:04,700 –> 00:24:09,400
future should do, I think she’d
be a great slutty assassin in

442
00:24:09,400 –> 00:24:12,400
the thing about her, Mom being
from a wealthy family.

443
00:24:12,400 –> 00:24:16,300
Her mom was like a complete
fuckup by this point, O.

444
00:24:16,300 –> 00:24:17,900
So, strange that Courtney
Love’s, mom.

445
00:24:19,200 –> 00:24:22,500
She was just like moving from
area to area and taking her

446
00:24:22,500 –> 00:24:24,500
daughter.
Sometimes the bigger behind

447
00:24:24,500 –> 00:24:28,300
sometimes they weren’t rolling
and go her family had money.

448
00:24:28,300 –> 00:24:31,400
We don’t know that she did that
is necessarily trickled down to

449
00:24:31,400 –> 00:24:33,300
her.
Yeah, by this point because her

450
00:24:33,300 –> 00:24:36,400
mom at this point is like
following the Grateful Dead

451
00:24:36,400 –> 00:24:39,000
around the country.
So maybe she had the money to

452
00:24:39,000 –> 00:24:41,200
support that but I Don’t get
that.

453
00:24:41,200 –> 00:24:44,500
She was like this.
San Francisco Yuppie waiting for

454
00:24:44,500 –> 00:24:46,700
computers to break.
So she could follow her real

455
00:24:46,700 –> 00:24:50,500
passion.
Like, I think here’s what I

456
00:24:50,500 –> 00:24:52,100
think about Courtney, Love’s
mom.

457
00:24:52,200 –> 00:24:55,300
I think she was Courtney, Love’s
Mom, right?

458
00:24:55,300 –> 00:24:57,300
Yeah.
And that should say it all.

459
00:24:57,800 –> 00:24:59,500
I just, I had to take a break to
tweet.

460
00:24:59,500 –> 00:25:02,700
Courtney, Love is the Suge
Knight of grunge because I think

461
00:25:02,700 –> 00:25:05,200
that’s pretty true.
Seems pretty accurate.

462
00:25:05,300 –> 00:25:07,900
It’s so crazy that she Courtney
Love’s, seems like she should be

463
00:25:07,900 –> 00:25:09,300
dead.
Like, it doesn’t seem like there

464
00:25:09,300 –> 00:25:10,500
should be a character like this
with all.

465
00:25:10,700 –> 00:25:13,400
This crazy stuff going on that
is still alive.

466
00:25:13,700 –> 00:25:16,800
Like I really want to kind of
see the deathbed confession

467
00:25:16,800 –> 00:25:20,600
after she dies books by friends.
The kind of like go into a lot

468
00:25:20,600 –> 00:25:22,600
of this stuff because I feel
like she’s a person with who’s

469
00:25:22,600 –> 00:25:24,300
just been around a lot of
history.

470
00:25:24,300 –> 00:25:27,700
Oh the guy from the leaving
trains is terrified of her.

471
00:25:28,100 –> 00:25:30,700
Yeah the her ex-husband her
extra first husband.

472
00:25:30,800 –> 00:25:32,800
Oh yeah well yeah I don’t know
if he caught one of her

473
00:25:32,800 –> 00:25:34,500
husband’s comes up.
Yes.

474
00:25:35,100 –> 00:25:38,300
And yeah.
The thing the other weird

475
00:25:38,300 –> 00:25:42,600
question about Courtney Love Is
Why do we not have a long

476
00:25:42,600 –> 00:25:45,100
history of Courtney Love going
to jail?

477
00:25:45,400 –> 00:25:48,800
We do, but for the wrong things.
Yeah, but not for like beating

478
00:25:48,800 –> 00:25:54,300
the shit out of Kathleen.
Hanna at Lollapalooza, like, all

479
00:25:54,300 –> 00:25:55,400
of these.
Oh, she did that.

480
00:25:55,400 –> 00:25:58,600
She just punched the shit out of
her at a concert.

481
00:25:58,600 –> 00:25:59,800
She’s a rebel girl.
Dude.

482
00:26:01,200 –> 00:26:03,600
And there’s all of these
incidents of Courtney Love,

483
00:26:03,600 –> 00:26:06,800
physically, assaulting people
and never going to jail for it.

484
00:26:07,100 –> 00:26:09,400
Why does that happen?
I don’t know, because she’s a

485
00:26:09,400 –> 00:26:10,400
woman.
No.

486
00:26:10,800 –> 00:26:13,400
Is that what we want to lean on?
No, because she’s a woman.

487
00:26:13,600 –> 00:26:17,000
I don’t fucking matriarchy,
ruling the world.

488
00:26:18,100 –> 00:26:20,300
I don’t know how to respond to
that, that’s the thing.

489
00:26:20,300 –> 00:26:25,100
Yeah, we yeah, it’s weird man.
Is she, she’s probably Rich at

490
00:26:25,100 –> 00:26:26,900
the time of these incidents.
That’s got to help.

491
00:26:27,600 –> 00:26:30,800
Yeah, but like, Katt Williams
has decent cash and he goes to

492
00:26:30,800 –> 00:26:33,800
jail every for money, but it
doesn’t have Nirvana money that

493
00:26:33,800 –> 00:26:35,400
won’t neither to Courtney.
Love.

494
00:26:36,200 –> 00:26:38,600
Courtney the Kurt, Cobain had
Nirvana money, right?

495
00:26:38,600 –> 00:26:40,400
But he’s now, she is the heir to
that.

496
00:26:40,400 –> 00:26:43,300
Well, yeah, now, and so, so now
when you’re at Lollapalooza

497
00:26:43,300 –> 00:26:46,400
punch and Kathleen, Hanna in the
face, you got Nirvana, lawyers

498
00:26:46,400 –> 00:26:47,700
and Nirvana money to keep you
from.

499
00:26:47,800 –> 00:26:51,300
From going to jail.
Yeah, I’m sure it’s just that.

500
00:26:51,600 –> 00:26:58,600
I hope let’s carry on.
So the I reasonably the Courtney

501
00:26:58,600 –> 00:27:02,200
Love is our shapeshifter who
takes the form of a passerby or

502
00:27:02,200 –> 00:27:04,500
a bystander.
And at which point she has

503
00:27:04,500 –> 00:27:08,100
imprisoned of multiple clones of
which he has stockpiles in the

504
00:27:08,100 –> 00:27:10,300
billions.
We’re on this.

505
00:27:10,300 –> 00:27:16,500
After I tell you about the good
folks of fancy toothpaste That’s

506
00:27:16,500 –> 00:27:20,300
what is our goes.
So, this is, this is another

507
00:27:20,300 –> 00:27:22,500
interesting point at one point
Courtney.

508
00:27:22,500 –> 00:27:25,100
Love’s mom moves to New Zealand.
Sure.

509
00:27:25,100 –> 00:27:29,700
And yeah, at first leaves,
Courtney Love in Oregon, but

510
00:27:29,700 –> 00:27:33,200
eventually flies Courtney, Love
out to Oregon, but that doesn’t

511
00:27:33,200 –> 00:27:36,700
work out well.
So someone flies to New Zealand

512
00:27:36,700 –> 00:27:38,900
and brings Courtney Love back to
the United States.

513
00:27:38,900 –> 00:27:41,500
What?
And that person who did it her

514
00:27:41,500 –> 00:27:45,000
therapist.
Hmm, I’m not in therapy.

515
00:27:45,100 –> 00:27:48,200
P.
But I feel like, hey, come get

516
00:27:48,200 –> 00:27:53,400
me from New Zealand is a
boundary most ethical therapist

517
00:27:53,400 –> 00:27:56,000
would not cry.
I am in therapy and I will tell

518
00:27:56,000 –> 00:27:59,300
you what the rule is.
The rule is, you cannot initiate

519
00:27:59,300 –> 00:28:02,800
contact outside, right?
We have permission for instance.

520
00:28:02,800 –> 00:28:06,800
My therapist, once saw me at a
Del Taco, not to brag left

521
00:28:07,400 –> 00:28:10,200
because he was like, oh that’s
weird, I can’t and he told me

522
00:28:10,200 –> 00:28:12,600
about it, he’s like I told he
told me about it next time I saw

523
00:28:12,600 –> 00:28:14,400
him.
He goes my thing is if I see you

524
00:28:14,400 –> 00:28:16,900
in public I can’t initiate
contact.

525
00:28:17,000 –> 00:28:20,900
I can write because people don’t
know who I am to you and I’m not

526
00:28:21,100 –> 00:28:23,100
certainly not taking people to
the airport.

527
00:28:23,100 –> 00:28:25,400
You’re certainly not going to
another country and accompanying

528
00:28:25,400 –> 00:28:27,700
somebody back, right?
Just wasn’t just that they

529
00:28:27,700 –> 00:28:30,700
picked her up at the airport.
They fuckin flew to New Zealand

530
00:28:30,700 –> 00:28:33,000
to fly her back to LA.
Yeah.

531
00:28:33,000 –> 00:28:36,800
And John getting her will come
up again, in a little bit in

532
00:28:36,800 –> 00:28:40,400
relation to that.
But around the age of 14

533
00:28:40,400 –> 00:28:45,000
Courtney briefly moved in with
Hank Harrison and she tells

534
00:28:45,100 –> 00:28:48,700
tells him that this psychiatrist
that she’s been seeing molested

535
00:28:48,700 –> 00:28:52,800
her sweet.
She also says he hypnotized her

536
00:28:53,100 –> 00:28:57,200
and gave her, the psycho
hypnotic drugs to an all and

537
00:28:57,200 –> 00:29:02,100
seekin all starting, at least as
early, as the age of 72, of the

538
00:29:02,100 –> 00:29:07,400
worst Pokemon in the entire
roster and Hank Harrison isn’t

539
00:29:07,400 –> 00:29:14,000
the most trustworthy Source.
But I, I liked his explanation

540
00:29:15,500 –> 00:29:21,200
He basically says, I believed
Courtney because what

541
00:29:21,200 –> 00:29:24,600
fourteen-year-old would have
knowledge of those drug, right?

542
00:29:24,600 –> 00:29:26,100
Yeah.
We’re not living in a Google

543
00:29:26,100 –> 00:29:27,100
age.
There’s no way you can.

544
00:29:27,100 –> 00:29:29,500
I mean, maybe she saw him lying
around just at some of the acid

545
00:29:29,500 –> 00:29:31,100
test part.
Yeah, well, I mean, no, they’re

546
00:29:31,100 –> 00:29:36,000
not living in a Google age, then
listen and be like, oh, I know

547
00:29:36,000 –> 00:29:37,900
this drug.
Yeah, because I typed in, what

548
00:29:37,900 –> 00:29:40,100
are drugs, I could talk about
inside, cool, you know.

549
00:29:40,100 –> 00:29:43,100
Yeah, to know about those drugs,
she had to have some kind of

550
00:29:43,100 –> 00:29:48,900
experience with them.
And MKUltra researchers have

551
00:29:48,900 –> 00:29:52,500
cited.
See a a CIA documents that

552
00:29:52,500 –> 00:29:57,100
detail their psychiatrists use
of sea Canal as a narco hypnotic

553
00:29:57,100 –> 00:30:00,700
to gain trance States.
Hmm so that’s weird.

554
00:30:00,700 –> 00:30:03,600
So what you’re thrown in the
kid, making them go into a

555
00:30:03,600 –> 00:30:06,500
trance and programming them for
later pretty much.

556
00:30:06,500 –> 00:30:08,700
There’s sweet on the MKUltra
episode.

557
00:30:08,700 –> 00:30:12,500
Put you into sleep mode and then
just like on the MKUltra and

558
00:30:12,500 –> 00:30:15,000
saver over a yeah, on the
MKUltra happy.

559
00:30:15,200 –> 00:30:18,500
We talked about a guy who went
on to become the president of

560
00:30:18,500 –> 00:30:22,900
the American and Canadian
psychiatric association’s and

561
00:30:22,900 –> 00:30:24,400
yeah, he had both belts.
Yeah.

562
00:30:24,400 –> 00:30:30,800
United, his whole thing was this
concept called psychic driving

563
00:30:31,200 –> 00:30:34,900
where he would basically get you
so high that you were in a coma.

564
00:30:35,000 –> 00:30:37,000
Yeah.
And then he would just play tape

565
00:30:37,000 –> 00:30:39,600
Loops to try and like erase bad
memories.

566
00:30:39,800 –> 00:30:41,700
That’s what they did in.
That’s the whole plot of Brave

567
00:30:41,700 –> 00:30:43,300
New World.
Is that from the time that your

568
00:30:43,300 –> 00:30:45,600
little kid, there’s a little
speaker in your Bed.

569
00:30:45,700 –> 00:30:48,200
And your they basically make
people like, according to caste

570
00:30:48,200 –> 00:30:50,800
systems biologically left by
putting alcohol in there, like

571
00:30:50,800 –> 00:30:53,300
development tanks, right?
You’ll be kind of stupider and

572
00:30:53,300 –> 00:30:55,100
slower and smaller.
If you just have to work manual

573
00:30:55,100 –> 00:30:56,700
labor and there’s a little voice
that says every night.

574
00:30:56,700 –> 00:30:59,800
Looks like I’m a Delta, I love
working in the coal.

575
00:30:59,800 –> 00:31:01,300
Mine.
Yeah, I love getting my hands

576
00:31:01,300 –> 00:31:02,000
dirty.
I loved.

577
00:31:02,000 –> 00:31:04,100
And it’s like, could you do that
with?

578
00:31:04,100 –> 00:31:07,700
I love killing rock stars?
I love, you know, like I know

579
00:31:07,700 –> 00:31:11,900
it’s a wacky thing that people
like everyone’s scoffs when they

580
00:31:11,900 –> 00:31:16,700
hear about the secret but the
secret Is, if anyone doesn’t

581
00:31:16,700 –> 00:31:20,800
know how it works, it’s bet the
real high overview is the

582
00:31:20,800 –> 00:31:23,300
thoughts.
Like, what you think comes back

583
00:31:23,300 –> 00:31:24,300
to you, right?
Yeah.

584
00:31:24,600 –> 00:31:27,500
And that’s, that didn’t start
with a secret.

585
00:31:27,500 –> 00:31:29,500
That’s research.
That’s been happening for

586
00:31:29,500 –> 00:31:33,900
decades and decades about the
subconscious and kind of

587
00:31:33,900 –> 00:31:36,300
eavesdrops on your conscious
mind and by being raped

588
00:31:36,300 –> 00:31:38,000
discipline.
In your thoughts, you’re

589
00:31:38,000 –> 00:31:41,100
thinking more constructively
unless you know, end of the

590
00:31:41,100 –> 00:31:44,600
world all the time then you’ll
probably inherit a little bit

591
00:31:44,600 –> 00:31:46,300
more.
A penis from the subconscious

592
00:31:46,300 –> 00:31:48,500
processes that are going on.
You know, it all gasp

593
00:31:48,500 –> 00:31:50,100
concurrently with your conscious
mind.

594
00:31:50,100 –> 00:31:52,100
And it’s a thing.
I’ve even fucked with.

595
00:31:52,100 –> 00:31:56,000
I have literally recorded myself
saying things that were going to

596
00:31:56,000 –> 00:31:59,000
happen and listen to it.
When I slept the I know you have

597
00:31:59,000 –> 00:32:01,600
a podcast Network.
It’s literally well, one of the

598
00:32:01,600 –> 00:32:04,000
things when I was still living
in South Dakota, I was like, I’m

599
00:32:04,000 –> 00:32:08,500
going to get a job with a major
publication which is crazy

600
00:32:08,500 –> 00:32:11,400
because I was living in South
Dakota working on the internet,

601
00:32:11,400 –> 00:32:12,200
the time.
Yeah.

602
00:32:12,300 –> 00:32:16,600
And within like 3 months, I got
a job running a Boy website from

603
00:32:16,600 –> 00:32:20,700
my couch in South Dakota and
that’s not like evidence that

604
00:32:20,700 –> 00:32:24,100
this shit is real but no man
sounds like a dream to me it is

605
00:32:24,100 –> 00:32:26,900
kind of just like I think having
the mood or having the kind of

606
00:32:26,900 –> 00:32:30,400
like because if you you know
it’s like say I’m like I want a

607
00:32:30,400 –> 00:32:34,000
TV show but I’m like, I suck.
I don’t I’m not the right honey

608
00:32:34,000 –> 00:32:36,900
I’m not and it’s not my career
is not really hot right now or

609
00:32:36,900 –> 00:32:39,600
anything so I’m gonna get I
think having the mindset of like

610
00:32:39,600 –> 00:32:41,800
Yeah I wanted to be sure.
I’m going to get what I deserve

611
00:32:41,800 –> 00:32:43,100
one.
Yeah I think that that is a much

612
00:32:43,100 –> 00:32:44,900
more prettier if you walk around
thinking like that.

613
00:32:45,100 –> 00:32:48,100
At, that’s why I fucking
narcissist and sociopaths are so

614
00:32:48,100 –> 00:32:50,900
successful because they’re,
they’re all their subconscious

615
00:32:50,900 –> 00:32:53,600
is just hearing them go.
Like, yeah, you’re God’s gift to

616
00:32:53,600 –> 00:32:55,900
the Earth, right?
And then when someone’s like you

617
00:32:55,900 –> 00:32:57,600
fucking suck, you’re like, nah,
I don’t.

618
00:32:57,700 –> 00:33:00,400
Yeah, what are you fucking crazy
dumbass?

619
00:33:00,600 –> 00:33:03,800
Yeah, could suck yeah, and you
yeah, yeah.

620
00:33:04,000 –> 00:33:05,700
Yeah, you’re great.
Dude, this is a good time.

621
00:33:07,500 –> 00:33:09,200
So let’s talk about John, get
injure.

622
00:33:09,700 –> 00:33:12,100
John get injured, John getting,
you’re done.

623
00:33:13,500 –> 00:33:17,800
I was thinking it.
As we mentioned earlier, he was

624
00:33:17,800 –> 00:33:22,000
in MK Ultra researcher who
specialized in split personality

625
00:33:22,200 –> 00:33:25,700
disorders, which is what
everyone in Courtney.

626
00:33:25,700 –> 00:33:30,500
Love’s life says she has is
split personality disorders,

627
00:33:31,000 –> 00:33:33,900
Hank Harrison wrote a book about
Courtney, Love where he mentions

628
00:33:33,900 –> 00:33:37,800
a conversation with Kristen faff
already said that in her mind

629
00:33:39,000 –> 00:33:45,100
but Kristen faff has also or did
also go on record and say, So

630
00:33:45,100 –> 00:33:47,400
yeah, Courtney Love has multiple
personalities.

631
00:33:47,400 –> 00:33:49,800
It’s scary.
She’s violent.

632
00:33:49,800 –> 00:33:52,600
She’s Cycles in and out of
different person is Courtney.

633
00:33:52,700 –> 00:33:56,500
Love the split personality and
Courtney Harrison to the real

634
00:33:56,500 –> 00:33:58,500
lady is that what the deal is
Courtney?

635
00:33:58,500 –> 00:34:02,400
Hate?
Could Be Love, is just like a

636
00:34:02,408 –> 00:34:05,300
stage name, right?
But if yeah, isn’t a stage name

637
00:34:05,300 –> 00:34:08,000
of persona, you create like
isn’t that just kind of a?

638
00:34:08,100 –> 00:34:10,400
Yeah that’s like that’s her
Ziggy Stardust.

639
00:34:10,400 –> 00:34:13,000
Yeah, you know, and then when
she’s the Thin White Duke,

640
00:34:13,000 –> 00:34:14,500
that’s when she starts killing
people.

641
00:34:15,400 –> 00:34:19,300
Yeah, so the thing about John
get injure, we know he worked in

642
00:34:19,300 –> 00:34:22,699
the San Francisco area.
We know he worked on split

643
00:34:22,699 –> 00:34:27,500
personality stuff at one point.
He takes his split personality

644
00:34:27,500 –> 00:34:31,500
operation to Australia.
Oh, you know, what’s really

645
00:34:31,500 –> 00:34:33,400
close to Australia?
Tasmania?

646
00:34:33,600 –> 00:34:35,800
New Zealand in New Zealand to.
Yeah.

647
00:34:36,100 –> 00:34:41,000
So is it possible that John get
injure was the guy who took her

648
00:34:41,000 –> 00:34:42,800
and picked her up?
Yeah, yeah.

649
00:34:43,199 –> 00:34:46,500
We’re she at one point Like I
said, she also said this guy

650
00:34:46,500 –> 00:34:50,699
molested her, she explained all
of these experiments involving

651
00:34:50,699 –> 00:34:54,400
drugs that do line up with the
things that were done to put.

652
00:34:54,400 –> 00:34:56,800
So you do studies second driving
with a stick shift.

653
00:34:56,800 –> 00:35:00,800
You gotta go pop the clutch and
now it’s not a nice thing to

654
00:35:00,800 –> 00:35:03,700
say.
Yeah, I’m sorry, I mean, I think

655
00:35:03,700 –> 00:35:06,600
you killed a great, a great man,
but I mean, I don’t think you’re

656
00:35:06,600 –> 00:35:08,100
gonna see that should have
happened to you.

657
00:35:08,800 –> 00:35:15,600
So that’s, that’s weird that
this MKUltra Actress who was

658
00:35:15,600 –> 00:35:19,900
working in San Francisco.
At one point moves his operation

659
00:35:19,900 –> 00:35:23,600
to Australia and around the same
time.

660
00:35:24,000 –> 00:35:28,300
Courtney Love is may be involved
in MK Ultra shit and is moved

661
00:35:28,300 –> 00:35:32,800
from New Zealand to the United
States by her psychiatrist.

662
00:35:33,000 –> 00:35:36,100
That’s I get that.
It’s not proof that she killed

663
00:35:36,100 –> 00:35:39,400
Kurt Cobain.
No, that’s fucking weird but it

664
00:35:39,400 –> 00:35:41,500
gets you to the ballpark.
It’s yeah.

665
00:35:41,500 –> 00:35:44,700
Really strange.
It’s the public transit that

666
00:35:44,700 –> 00:35:47,700
takes You to the location.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

667
00:35:48,000 –> 00:35:53,400
And another weird thing, all of
the women who’ve testified to

668
00:35:53,400 –> 00:35:56,400
having been subjected to this
before they were like we were

669
00:35:56,400 –> 00:36:00,700
trained as prostitutes like, not
just, ya know, kilter had

670
00:36:00,700 –> 00:36:01,700
brothels.
Yeah.

671
00:36:01,700 –> 00:36:03,900
Yeah.
Ultra had brothels.

672
00:36:04,500 –> 00:36:07,500
Definitely in San Francisco.
Probably other places they want

673
00:36:07,500 –> 00:36:09,900
to drug you in a situation where
you’d be embarrassed to talk

674
00:36:09,900 –> 00:36:12,500
about it, you know, and they
hadn’t invented Magic the

675
00:36:12,500 –> 00:36:16,500
Gathering yet.
So, They thought hookers that’s

676
00:36:16,500 –> 00:36:18,900
the ticket, but are they also
training them to be?

677
00:36:18,900 –> 00:36:21,100
I mean, we still do this.
Now you here with all the spy

678
00:36:21,100 –> 00:36:24,700
shit that like they’re using sex
as a way to get close to

679
00:36:24,700 –> 00:36:27,800
powerful people and then get
them to tell you shit, right?

680
00:36:27,800 –> 00:36:29,600
Oh yeah, oh yeah, I mean the
idea.

681
00:36:29,900 –> 00:36:31,200
Yeah.
Watch, the american are.

682
00:36:31,200 –> 00:36:32,900
The hot works.
Is this just a bunch of fucking

683
00:36:32,900 –> 00:36:34,500
pedophiles having fun with
children?

684
00:36:34,500 –> 00:36:36,500
Like, I can’t.
What time do I get that?

685
00:36:36,600 –> 00:36:38,700
I mean, little column a little
column B.

686
00:36:38,700 –> 00:36:42,500
I mean yeah there’s other always
in Columbine in there too or

687
00:36:42,500 –> 00:36:46,800
think.
The Columbine me, the fine.

688
00:36:46,800 –> 00:36:51,400
Hi.
So this is from a book called

689
00:36:51,400 –> 00:36:54,800
Courtney.
Love the real story which fine

690
00:36:54,800 –> 00:36:56,600
it was written by a friend of
hers named pop.

691
00:36:56,600 –> 00:36:59,300
Easy bright, what?
And I get that that’s not the

692
00:36:59,300 –> 00:37:04,000
best source but a court he’s
saying Missy bright doesn’t

693
00:37:04,000 –> 00:37:07,700
necessarily happen, most
accurate portrayal of Miss love

694
00:37:07,800 –> 00:37:11,100
but according to her and keep
the prostitutes thing in mind,

695
00:37:11,500 –> 00:37:16,700
Courtney claimed at one point.
She She worked for organized

696
00:37:16,700 –> 00:37:20,300
crime in Japan as a stripper.
Yeah, she used her.

697
00:37:20,300 –> 00:37:22,200
Haahoo Coos.
I think she just I think you

698
00:37:22,200 –> 00:37:24,700
just got high and watch Kill
Bill and thought that was her to

699
00:37:24,707 –> 00:37:26,900
ban.
Yeah, she remembers.

700
00:37:26,900 –> 00:37:35,300
She traveling so much because
she’s in the Cil with a platinum

701
00:37:35,300 –> 00:37:40,400
boarding pass.
Yeah, she referred to this work.

702
00:37:40,400 –> 00:37:44,000
She did as quote, the white
slave trade in the Delta

703
00:37:44,000 –> 00:37:49,100
Premium, As a pass and implied
that it involved.

704
00:37:49,100 –> 00:37:53,700
Prostitution also Courtney Love
biographer, Melissa, Rossi.

705
00:37:53,700 –> 00:37:57,000
That’s a tough job.
Also said Courtney reported

706
00:37:57,000 –> 00:38:01,400
having worked as a prostitute in
Taiwan as a team Hank.

707
00:38:01,400 –> 00:38:03,800
Also, clanky says it in proper
English.

708
00:38:03,800 –> 00:38:08,900
I will love you for a long time.
Hank Harrison, her dad, also

709
00:38:08,900 –> 00:38:11,700
claims, he found Courtney
working as a prostitute in San

710
00:38:11,700 –> 00:38:14,300
Francisco.
At one point for a Madam who

711
00:38:14,300 –> 00:38:17,600
went On to become a lifelong
advisor to love, you know?

712
00:38:17,600 –> 00:38:19,600
They that’s, that’s really the
role of a Madam.

713
00:38:19,900 –> 00:38:23,800
Absolutely, it’s a seat.
I was just imagining.

714
00:38:23,800 –> 00:38:26,200
It’s the puppet Madam.
The from the old fellow

715
00:38:26,200 –> 00:38:27,100
comedian.
Yeah.

716
00:38:28,100 –> 00:38:30,900
In 1980, Hank.
Harrison moves to Dublin to work

717
00:38:30,900 –> 00:38:33,500
on a book project.
Sixteen-year-old Courtney goes

718
00:38:33,500 –> 00:38:36,300
to live with Hank during this
time and at the same time, she’s

719
00:38:36,300 –> 00:38:40,600
hanging out with a guy named
Steve O’Leary who it has been

720
00:38:40,600 –> 00:38:44,400
confirmed since CIA operative.
Jesus Christ.

721
00:38:45,000 –> 00:38:47,600
You see, I mean she just can’t
avoid these people, you know,

722
00:38:48,600 –> 00:38:53,400
and even better at one point,
she buys a thousand hits of a

723
00:38:53,400 –> 00:38:55,500
tour.
Just has a thousand hits of

724
00:38:55,500 –> 00:38:57,800
acid.
That’s too many and she and

725
00:38:57,800 –> 00:39:03,300
Steve O’Leary go to Liverpool to
distribute acid, which it

726
00:39:03,700 –> 00:39:06,800
remember?
The other Theory here is she

727
00:39:06,800 –> 00:39:09,100
infiltrates?
Upstart music scenes?

728
00:39:09,100 –> 00:39:14,400
No with drugs and infighting in
an effort to destroy them.

729
00:39:14,700 –> 00:39:20,600
If they start getting to leftist
and think about England in 1980,

730
00:39:21,900 –> 00:39:26,300
like that’s Punk is just getting
off the ground, but also close

731
00:39:26,300 –> 00:39:29,400
to being dead, but also New Wave
is starting.

732
00:39:29,400 –> 00:39:32,300
There’s a lot like the satcher
ism is coming around.

733
00:39:32,300 –> 00:39:35,300
Now, there’s Factory records are
doing teaching people how to be

734
00:39:35,300 –> 00:39:38,000
sad.
This was a vital time,

735
00:39:38,000 –> 00:39:42,000
everyone’s on the Dole.
Yeah, this was an important time

736
00:39:42,000 –> 00:39:45,300
for loved orange juice in
English, for me, He’s a kid that

737
00:39:45,300 –> 00:39:48,300
doll.
Yeah, this high level also loved

738
00:39:48,300 –> 00:39:49,000
it.
Oh, it’s good stuff.

739
00:39:49,000 –> 00:39:51,700
Yeah, this is an important
moment for that scene.

740
00:39:51,700 –> 00:39:54,000
And Courtney, Love just happens
to be there.

741
00:39:54,100 –> 00:39:59,300
Yeah, just happens to be like
the Forrest Gump of music ending

742
00:39:59,300 –> 00:40:02,200
before it should, she’s like the
Glenny Friedman, just always

743
00:40:02,200 –> 00:40:03,400
there.
The right moment to take a

744
00:40:03,400 –> 00:40:06,200
snapshot of that scene before it
blows up.

745
00:40:06,300 –> 00:40:10,100
And on the trip to Liverpool,
they also went to England and

746
00:40:10,100 –> 00:40:14,200
visited the ockendon Vietnamese
refugee camp in London.

747
00:40:14,600 –> 00:40:18,000
What, which for one thing, Hank
Harrison says, was a CIA

748
00:40:18,000 –> 00:40:21,400
installation.
But also weird side, note,

749
00:40:21,500 –> 00:40:25,800
before killing John, Lennon,
Mark, David, Chapman visited, a

750
00:40:25,800 –> 00:40:31,000
CI are not necessarily CIA, but
a Vietnamese refugee camp in

751
00:40:31,000 –> 00:40:34,800
like Arkansas, huh?
But I’m sure that’s nothing

752
00:40:34,800 –> 00:40:37,800
what’s Happening Here.
I know what the fuck is

753
00:40:37,800 –> 00:40:40,700
happening.
Mandy being a sheep, was so much

754
00:40:40,700 –> 00:40:43,500
easier.
Now, now I got to be a Courtney

755
00:40:43,500 –> 00:40:45,800
Love.
I can truth you dude, I gotta

756
00:40:46,700 –> 00:40:50,000
sell according to a lot of
accounts when she gets to

757
00:40:50,000 –> 00:40:53,200
England in 1980.
She immediately becomes a

758
00:40:53,200 –> 00:40:58,400
groupie in this scene to the
point that she apparently which

759
00:40:58,400 –> 00:41:00,700
this part’s kind of comforting,
because it said she became a

760
00:41:00,700 –> 00:41:03,400
groupie for The Pogues and I was
like, you didn’t fuck that guy

761
00:41:03,400 –> 00:41:05,500
with a rotten teeth.
I knew McGowan.

762
00:41:05,500 –> 00:41:08,100
Yeah.
But no, it was the drummer who

763
00:41:08,100 –> 00:41:11,200
apparently got her pregnant.
She got an abortion but also

764
00:41:11,200 –> 00:41:14,300
made such a scene of it.
Dirty old Tunes, actually about

765
00:41:14,300 –> 00:41:15,100
her.
Pussy.

766
00:41:15,100 –> 00:41:17,300
That’s what did I went to
Ireland?

767
00:41:17,300 –> 00:41:20,100
Every single bar, I went into,
they play live music every

768
00:41:20,100 –> 00:41:23,900
single bar, every single, every
single one, all over every,

769
00:41:23,900 –> 00:41:26,900
every major city in Ireland,
every band played Dirty Old

770
00:41:26,900 –> 00:41:29,700
Town, at least.
Once it is the wonder wall of

771
00:41:29,700 –> 00:41:34,000
Ireland, and I love that song,
but every time, every bar, it

772
00:41:34,000 –> 00:41:38,300
did not not happen ever.
And I should add, in terms of

773
00:41:38,300 –> 00:41:41,000
her breaking up the drummer in
The Pogues marriage.

774
00:41:41,100 –> 00:41:43,200
Yeah, don’t fuck
sixteen-year-old groupies, dude.

775
00:41:43,200 –> 00:41:46,900
Yeah, no, I mean that’s all.
Back in England. 16 is the age

776
00:41:46,900 –> 00:41:50,700
of consent still nearly.
All right, you’re gonna do,

777
00:41:50,700 –> 00:41:53,200
you’re gonna give her a baby
that she has to shit out in

778
00:41:53,207 –> 00:41:55,800
between homework.
I mean, that’s rude.

779
00:41:56,500 –> 00:41:59,500
So it’s claimed by some
researchers that she was quote,

780
00:41:59,500 –> 00:42:03,200
no longer welcome in Liverpool
by 1982.

781
00:42:03,400 –> 00:42:06,700
So one of the musicians she
dated around this time was guy

782
00:42:06,700 –> 00:42:12,300
named Julian Cope and during
Courtney’s marriage to Kurt this

783
00:42:12,300 –> 00:42:17,000
guy took out a full-page ad Add
in several music, Publications

784
00:42:17,700 –> 00:42:23,700
and they said this free us from
Nancy spungen fixated heroin

785
00:42:23,800 –> 00:42:28,100
a-holes who cling to our
greatest rock groups and suck

786
00:42:28,100 –> 00:42:30,600
out their brains.
I mean, that could be

787
00:42:30,600 –> 00:42:32,700
interpreted by kind of.
Yes.

788
00:42:32,700 –> 00:42:35,400
There’s so many ways you could
look at that, it’s open-ended.

789
00:42:35,400 –> 00:42:39,700
Yeah.
So from England, she moves to

790
00:42:39,700 –> 00:42:43,800
Portland and gets involved in
that music scene and we know

791
00:42:43,800 –> 00:42:46,500
that’s true.
Because this is when she briefly

792
00:42:46,500 –> 00:42:49,900
joins Babes, in Toyland right
before getting kicked out of the

793
00:42:49,900 –> 00:42:54,100
band and they moved back to
Minneapolis but so, whatever was

794
00:42:54,100 –> 00:42:57,200
happening in Portland that
ultimately did not take off in

795
00:42:57,200 –> 00:42:59,400
the 90s.
Courtney Love was involved in

796
00:42:59,400 –> 00:43:01,800
that too.
Or oh, this is around the time

797
00:43:01,800 –> 00:43:05,600
that a Keith carries biological
father is in Portland in a band.

798
00:43:05,600 –> 00:43:08,300
I wonder if he ever got a pic,
got a Mickey from old Courtney

799
00:43:08,300 –> 00:43:11,600
Love.
Probably because it’s said that

800
00:43:11,600 –> 00:43:14,400
around this time she would
distribute.

801
00:43:14,500 –> 00:43:18,100
Pills like candy, yummy in the
Portland, Music Scene, and that

802
00:43:18,100 –> 00:43:22,600
raises a question where she
getting, like a thousand hits of

803
00:43:22,600 –> 00:43:25,700
acid.
That’s ten thousand dollars.

804
00:43:25,700 –> 00:43:31,100
If you’re getting a very long,
you did.

805
00:43:31,100 –> 00:43:38,100
Like this beautiful.
I had to pull up the drug

806
00:43:38,100 –> 00:43:39,300
calculator.
Yeah.

807
00:43:40,100 –> 00:43:42,400
Carry the one.
Also, everything tastes like

808
00:43:42,400 –> 00:43:45,100
orange and boom.
It’s Dollars.

809
00:43:45,900 –> 00:43:47,600
That’s a lot of money.
Yeah.

810
00:43:47,900 –> 00:43:51,000
For a 16 year old, who sure her
mom has a true.

811
00:43:51,000 –> 00:43:55,100
She saw in that pussy but I mean
I can’t be wait like there’s

812
00:43:55,100 –> 00:43:57,300
nothing in Courtney Love.
That’s worth 10 grand.

813
00:43:57,700 –> 00:43:59,400
No, no.
Yeah no yeah.

814
00:43:59,800 –> 00:44:05,100
So a couple secrets for a
tell-all book but she also

815
00:44:05,100 –> 00:44:08,400
worked in Alaska as a stripper
for some time, which she’s just

816
00:44:08,400 –> 00:44:10,300
crying.
Where’s my strip?

817
00:44:10,300 –> 00:44:14,100
I sometimes think Alaska is just
a CIA base.

818
00:44:14,600 –> 00:44:16,700
Like so much weird shit happens
up there.

819
00:44:16,700 –> 00:44:20,000
I feel like they were like your
battery kind of like, snow

820
00:44:20,000 –> 00:44:21,200
Florida.
Hang out.

821
00:44:22,000 –> 00:44:25,000
It’s a see out with the
co-workers, CIA base and some

822
00:44:25,000 –> 00:44:27,700
reality television about people
who have difficult lives,

823
00:44:27,900 –> 00:44:30,900
getting crabs.
Yeah, it’s a front by the, the

824
00:44:30,900 –> 00:44:36,500
FBI in the TLC channel.
So, her first husband with that

825
00:44:36,500 –> 00:44:38,700
Discovery networks.
There is no Alaska.

826
00:44:38,800 –> 00:44:41,600
Yeah.
Her first husband says that

827
00:44:41,600 –> 00:44:45,100
during this time or she told him
that during This time when she

828
00:44:45,100 –> 00:44:49,600
was working in Alaska, quote,
she slept with generals at the

829
00:44:49,600 –> 00:44:53,300
army base, who told her secret
information, that prove that the

830
00:44:53,300 –> 00:44:56,500
wars they got us into were for
our own good.

831
00:44:56,600 –> 00:44:59,500
Oh my God.
If I had heard that Courtney

832
00:44:59,500 –> 00:45:03,400
Love quote, completely out of
context I would have been like

833
00:45:03,400 –> 00:45:05,900
you fucking Maniac.
What are you talking about?

834
00:45:05,900 –> 00:45:08,200
Yeah, but hearing it in the
context of this.

835
00:45:08,200 –> 00:45:10,600
I’m like oh, maybe that
happened.

836
00:45:10,600 –> 00:45:14,500
Yeah, that seems plausible.
Yeah, I mean I mean it like, You

837
00:45:14,508 –> 00:45:17,600
might, you might have to like
that’s like the Joy Division.

838
00:45:17,600 –> 00:45:20,000
Four, fucking Generals in
Alaska.

839
00:45:20,000 –> 00:45:23,400
It’s like well fly Courtney.
Love up to fuck you guys, you

840
00:45:23,400 –> 00:45:26,600
know, and try not to get too,
too loose lift in the

841
00:45:26,600 –> 00:45:29,600
post-coital fucking cigarette
Hayes.

842
00:45:29,900 –> 00:45:33,500
So, by the late 80s, she was in
LA and had started whole.

843
00:45:33,600 –> 00:45:36,800
She also got married around this
time to a local Punk musician

844
00:45:36,800 –> 00:45:39,700
named James.
Morland the leaving trains your

845
00:45:39,900 –> 00:45:41,300
yeah.
I’ve never heard of them that.

846
00:45:41,400 –> 00:45:42,700
Are they good band?
Yeah.

847
00:45:42,700 –> 00:45:44,100
He’s Courtney Love.
Destroyed them.

848
00:45:44,500 –> 00:45:46,200
Stole the baby doll dress from
James.

849
00:45:46,200 –> 00:45:48,700
He used to wear them on stage.
That was his fucking dead.

850
00:45:48,700 –> 00:45:51,700
Yeah.
And yeah, and the leaving trains

851
00:45:51,700 –> 00:45:53,900
will still play shows.
And you go as just like it’s a

852
00:45:53,900 –> 00:45:55,200
broken sad.
Dude.

853
00:45:56,000 –> 00:45:57,800
And sad.
Guys seen him in one of the

854
00:45:57,900 –> 00:45:59,900
Nirvana document.
Yes, I think he’s in curtain

855
00:45:59,900 –> 00:46:01,600
Courtney where he goes a Kinder
gentler.

856
00:46:01,600 –> 00:46:04,100
Charles Manson is still Charles
Smith and then it’s like still

857
00:46:04,100 –> 00:46:07,800
like so worked up about the
whole he’s mad or anything.

858
00:46:07,800 –> 00:46:09,100
See this.
According to kill them.

859
00:46:09,700 –> 00:46:13,500
No, she just destroyed.
She just likes his life.

860
00:46:13,500 –> 00:46:16,300
Yeah okay.
This is a quote from more or

861
00:46:16,300 –> 00:46:20,400
not, quote for Moreland, but he
said that when he married

862
00:46:20,400 –> 00:46:22,500
Courtney Love, he thought he was
marrying quote.

863
00:46:22,500 –> 00:46:26,800
A radical Punk feminist, but
ended up with right-wing Phyllis

864
00:46:26,800 –> 00:46:29,600
Diller.
Instead nailed, it is so white

865
00:46:29,600 –> 00:46:31,600
wing.
Phyllis Diller is the best

866
00:46:31,600 –> 00:46:35,000
description I’ve ever heard.
And I need to know more of

867
00:46:35,000 –> 00:46:38,200
Courtney, Love’s politics, so I
can make sure it’s accurate.

868
00:46:38,300 –> 00:46:40,500
There are there are a weird
subject to people that you’ll

869
00:46:40,500 –> 00:46:43,200
meet out in the wild sometimes
where it’s like, yeah, I mean I

870
00:46:43,200 –> 00:46:47,300
just love like you Like dying my
hair and just fucking popping

871
00:46:47,300 –> 00:46:51,100
pills, partying, rock and roll
and small government and

872
00:46:51,100 –> 00:46:55,500
immigrants are destroying this
country, and I think we should

873
00:46:55,500 –> 00:46:56,500
be the police of the world, you
know?

874
00:46:56,600 –> 00:46:58,100
And it’s like, it’s like, wait,
wait wait, whoa.

875
00:46:58,100 –> 00:47:01,200
Ah, so so she goes from
Portland.

876
00:47:01,200 –> 00:47:04,800
She goes to LA and starts whole
and before meeting Kurt.

877
00:47:04,800 –> 00:47:07,400
Cobain, she also dates Trent
Reznor.

878
00:47:07,400 –> 00:47:09,400
Yep.
And Billy Corgan.

879
00:47:10,100 –> 00:47:14,900
So those are all really big
Music.

880
00:47:14,900 –> 00:47:18,400
Things like Trent, Reznor
ushered in a whole new sort of

881
00:47:18,408 –> 00:47:21,600
thing in the night.
It wasn’t new, but it was a

882
00:47:21,600 –> 00:47:25,900
departure and he probably is
kind of a leftist or though.

883
00:47:25,900 –> 00:47:29,100
I feel like she dated him and
was like, nah, he’s good.

884
00:47:29,100 –> 00:47:31,600
He is, he’s right wing as fuck.
You’re fine.

885
00:47:31,600 –> 00:47:32,800
Just give them a little bit of
time.

886
00:47:32,800 –> 00:47:35,500
He’ll win an Academy Award
people will forget, they will

887
00:47:35,500 –> 00:47:39,300
forget all the other things.
So, with the exception of rap

888
00:47:39,300 –> 00:47:44,000
music, Courtney Love is involved
in a lot of important music

889
00:47:44,000 –> 00:47:45,500
movement.
I wish you would have gotten

890
00:47:45,500 –> 00:47:48,500
involved in rap music so I might
have fucking just killed her.

891
00:47:48,800 –> 00:47:51,400
Yeah, I wish she would have
dated Flavor Flav instead of

892
00:47:51,400 –> 00:47:54,200
Brigitte Nielsen.
I still wish she would date

893
00:47:54,200 –> 00:47:56,600
Flavor Flav’s.
There’s still time we both still

894
00:47:56,600 –> 00:47:58,200
with us.
They’re both so they can do it.

895
00:47:58,200 –> 00:48:00,700
Yeah.
Flavor Flav had a sitcom briefly

896
00:48:00,700 –> 00:48:04,200
that ran for 26 episodes on UPN
called Under One Roof and I

897
00:48:04,200 –> 00:48:06,700
watched it with Glee every
single week, it was the worst

898
00:48:06,700 –> 00:48:09,700
television show I’ve ever seen
and I cannot find it online

899
00:48:09,700 –> 00:48:11,500
anywhere and I want to watch it
again.

900
00:48:11,500 –> 00:48:13,600
There’s a great one where Twista
is like the guest for the

901
00:48:13,600 –> 00:48:15,600
episode.
But like for one whole summer, I

902
00:48:15,600 –> 00:48:16,900
just watched was like this the
whole time.

903
00:48:19,400 –> 00:48:21,500
I was just like it was the way
it was like, basically, Fresh

904
00:48:21,500 –> 00:48:24,400
Prince of Bel-Air, but it’s like
his like, Yuppie brother like

905
00:48:24,400 –> 00:48:26,600
was supposed to go to jail and
Flavor, Flav took the blame and

906
00:48:26,600 –> 00:48:28,600
now he’s out.
So he’s got to take care of them

907
00:48:28,800 –> 00:48:30,800
and he did the whole rap.
He explained the whole premise

908
00:48:30,800 –> 00:48:33,600
of the show and the rap in the
intro and it’s the fucking the

909
00:48:33,600 –> 00:48:36,300
best bad television I’ve ever
watched and I can’t have it.

910
00:48:36,300 –> 00:48:39,500
I feel like that show is made
with just well, we don’t know

911
00:48:39,500 –> 00:48:42,800
what flavor will say, but will
say, all of this and then

912
00:48:42,800 –> 00:48:45,200
hopefully it all ties together.
Socks.

913
00:48:46,800 –> 00:48:52,100
So this is a quote, from Susan
silver, who was at various times

914
00:48:52,300 –> 00:48:55,400
manager for Soundgarden, Alice
in Chains and screaming trees.

915
00:48:55,800 –> 00:49:00,800
And if I’m not mistaken married
to Chris Cornell, I don’t, I

916
00:49:00,808 –> 00:49:04,300
don’t know if they eventually
got divorced and he remarried,

917
00:49:04,600 –> 00:49:08,000
but she was Chris Cornell’s wife
at one point.

918
00:49:08,200 –> 00:49:11,200
This is a quote from her after
Courtney hooked up with Kurt, it

919
00:49:11,200 –> 00:49:14,300
was the first time anyone had
ever publicly trash talk.

920
00:49:14,400 –> 00:49:17,600
Talk to anybody in the
community, it was really awful

921
00:49:17,600 –> 00:49:21,100
to have somebody with this
addict behavior of divide and

922
00:49:21,100 –> 00:49:23,700
conquer.
We had this really lovely

923
00:49:23,700 –> 00:49:28,300
cohesive supportive community
and this tornado came and

924
00:49:28,300 –> 00:49:31,800
started blowing things apart.
So is that Courtney Love doing

925
00:49:31,800 –> 00:49:35,000
her job as a CIA operative?
Well, yeah, yeah what.

926
00:49:35,000 –> 00:49:38,800
But what are they trying to stop
in the world?

927
00:49:38,800 –> 00:49:41,900
He made.
Like this is I’m buying in this

928
00:49:41,900 –> 00:49:44,300
all happened.
What are they trying to stop?

929
00:49:44,500 –> 00:49:47,600
From happening by these bands
becoming successful bands.

930
00:49:47,600 –> 00:49:51,200
Spreading leftist politics.
Got it I mean I know that’s why

931
00:49:51,200 –> 00:49:54,100
I like that is because I’m you
know discovered punk rock music

932
00:49:54,100 –> 00:49:56,000
when I was 13 years old, you
know.

933
00:49:56,000 –> 00:49:58,200
So it’s like if you like if you
take these cool things you see

934
00:49:58,200 –> 00:50:00,700
these cool things happening like
a punk rock or grunge, you like,

935
00:50:00,900 –> 00:50:02,700
let’s nip that in the bud,
right?

936
00:50:02,700 –> 00:50:05,600
Oh, and with the, what do it
from the inside like, you know,

937
00:50:05,600 –> 00:50:08,000
everyone is like making it has a
community making a cool thing.

938
00:50:08,000 –> 00:50:11,300
It’s like, get some pot stirs in
there, you know, and kind of.

939
00:50:11,300 –> 00:50:13,500
Yeah that’s that’s the best way
to kill anything is within

940
00:50:13,500 –> 00:50:15,100
fighting.
That’s what the Eia tries to do

941
00:50:15,100 –> 00:50:16,800
when they destabilize
governments.

942
00:50:16,800 –> 00:50:17,900
Anyway.
That’s that’s in the that’s in

943
00:50:17,900 –> 00:50:18,800
the Playbook.
Exactly.

944
00:50:18,800 –> 00:50:22,000
That’s that’s precisely what we
do to destabilize the

945
00:50:22,000 –> 00:50:24,500
government.
Like we have foundations now

946
00:50:24,500 –> 00:50:27,900
that just like, it seems like
they usually call them

947
00:50:27,900 –> 00:50:31,700
pro-democracy organizations.
And like, John McCain, is the

948
00:50:31,700 –> 00:50:34,900
head of one of them.
There’s a Democrat version also

949
00:50:35,300 –> 00:50:37,700
and they just send people in to
go.

950
00:50:37,700 –> 00:50:39,300
Hey, do you hate your
government?

951
00:50:39,300 –> 00:50:41,000
Let me tell you how to use
Facebook.

952
00:50:41,100 –> 00:50:45,500
Yeah.
And like Courtney Of does kind

953
00:50:45,500 –> 00:50:49,700
of seem like the music version
of you would have Facebook back

954
00:50:49,700 –> 00:50:52,400
in the early nineties, well, not
Facebook.

955
00:50:52,400 –> 00:50:57,100
But she was she was the one
going in and kind of quelling.

956
00:50:57,100 –> 00:51:00,300
These movements issues, the
molotov cocktail of.

957
00:51:00,300 –> 00:51:06,000
Yeah, it’s, it’s crazy.
And there were some after she

958
00:51:06,000 –> 00:51:10,500
arrived in Seattle.
There were some weird incidents

959
00:51:11,000 –> 00:51:15,300
for one Kurtz friend, local
poet, Steve Bernstein Reportedly

960
00:51:15,300 –> 00:51:19,400
committing committed suicide by
slitting, his own throat.

961
00:51:19,400 –> 00:51:22,500
Oh, that’s a tough way to do it.
That’s hard, that’s a weird way.

962
00:51:22,600 –> 00:51:26,100
But his friend filmmaker Oliver
Stone.

963
00:51:26,400 –> 00:51:31,500
What was convinced that he was
murdered Mark arm and Mike Starr

964
00:51:31,500 –> 00:51:32,200
bow.
Hold on.

965
00:51:32,200 –> 00:51:33,900
Before we get to, that does
Oliver Stone.

966
00:51:33,900 –> 00:51:36,700
Think anyone dies of natural
causes like his he I don’t know.

967
00:51:37,000 –> 00:51:39,400
I think Oliver Stone is a
Russian agent.

968
00:51:39,400 –> 00:51:40,800
Sure myself.
So who knows?

969
00:51:40,900 –> 00:51:44,300
Yeah, Mark arm and Mike Starr.
Both near-fatal.

970
00:51:44,400 –> 00:51:47,500
Lee overdosed after shooting up
in separate incidents with

971
00:51:47,500 –> 00:51:49,500
Courtney Love.
She was there both times she

972
00:51:49,508 –> 00:51:52,400
just had a better tolerance.
Mark arm is of course if

973
00:51:52,400 –> 00:51:56,900
mudhoney Mike Starr was the
original drummer of Alice in

974
00:51:56,900 –> 00:51:59,900
Chains, Alice in Chains.
Yeah, Mia, Zapata that murder

975
00:51:59,900 –> 00:52:03,400
happened which I did was her
band The talked about the

976
00:52:03,400 –> 00:52:04,900
report, the gets.
Yeah.

977
00:52:04,900 –> 00:52:08,400
And they had a tour planned
where they were going to Shadow

978
00:52:08,400 –> 00:52:11,700
the pope as he traveled across
the United States.

979
00:52:11,700 –> 00:52:14,100
Oh, that’s awesome.
Play a bunch of concerts kind of

980
00:52:14,300 –> 00:52:19,200
Speaking out against the Vatican
and that seems I’ve been here.

981
00:52:19,200 –> 00:52:23,800
I’ve been using it wrong and she
got murdered in the streets of

982
00:52:23,800 –> 00:52:26,500
Seattle, about a month before
that tour happened.

983
00:52:27,000 –> 00:52:30,800
And then when the members of Tad
organized a benefit to raise

984
00:52:30,800 –> 00:52:35,000
money to research and
investigate her murder Courtney

985
00:52:35,000 –> 00:52:38,900
Love’s shows up and starts a
fight backstage that somehow

986
00:52:38,900 –> 00:52:41,000
starts a fire.
Wow.

987
00:52:41,200 –> 00:52:47,000
And almost ends the benefit but
Look and to be fair, most

988
00:52:47,000 –> 00:52:51,000
benefits need a fire at a fight.
Absolutely to really kick it off

989
00:52:51,000 –> 00:52:53,700
to really get it going.
What do you got a cheese plate?

990
00:52:53,700 –> 00:52:55,500
Come on, man.
Start a fight.

991
00:52:55,800 –> 00:52:59,500
So, then well, and by talking
about Kristen fath, who is

992
00:52:59,500 –> 00:53:04,400
another really weird death in
Courtney, Love’s Inner Circle.

993
00:53:04,800 –> 00:53:08,300
She died 10 weeks after Kurt
after Kurt, right?

994
00:53:08,400 –> 00:53:11,500
And she was talked into joining
whole, basically.

995
00:53:11,700 –> 00:53:14,200
They, I mean, they are a lot of
money basis.

996
00:53:14,400 –> 00:53:17,200
She was the basis that they
credit with making that album.

997
00:53:17,200 –> 00:53:17,800
Right.
Right.

998
00:53:17,800 –> 00:53:18,400
Right.
Right.

999
00:53:18,400 –> 00:53:21,800
I remember this.
This was a real buried story.

1000
00:53:21,800 –> 00:53:24,300
When this happened.
It was real like another

1001
00:53:24,300 –> 00:53:25,700
someone.
Somebody did Courtney.

1002
00:53:25,700 –> 00:53:27,800
Love Knows died.
But Kurt Cobain still dead.

1003
00:53:27,800 –> 00:53:31,200
This one is almost more damning
than the Courtney Love Story.

1004
00:53:31,200 –> 00:53:35,200
It just involves Eric erlandsson
who was, who is Courtney?

1005
00:53:35,200 –> 00:53:38,700
Love’s, lifelong friend, and
guitar player whole, yeah, but

1006
00:53:38,700 –> 00:53:41,500
it just involves him instead of
Courtney Love, but it’s pretty

1007
00:53:41,500 –> 00:53:43,800
fucking crazy.
Without faff dying, you don’t

1008
00:53:43,800 –> 00:53:45,200
get Melissa.
After Mujer.

1009
00:53:45,700 –> 00:53:46,900
Yeah.
Who is the only way now?

1010
00:53:46,900 –> 00:53:50,500
Be all right, I love her.
Yeah, but it would have been

1011
00:53:50,500 –> 00:53:53,800
cool if Kristen faff lived and
Melissa after Marge has joined

1012
00:53:53,800 –> 00:53:58,300
another band but her family
tried to talk her out of joining

1013
00:53:58,300 –> 00:54:02,600
whole specifically because of
Eric Aronson and Courtney Love’s

1014
00:54:02,600 –> 00:54:05,000
drug use.
But nevertheless, she joins

1015
00:54:05,000 –> 00:54:07,700
whole and within a couple months
Erica.

1016
00:54:07,700 –> 00:54:11,200
And Cyn is her boyfriend now and
she’s addicted to heroin.

1017
00:54:11,200 –> 00:54:14,900
Yep, nice.
And by all accounts, she She was

1018
00:54:15,300 –> 00:54:18,300
emotionally traumatized by
Courtney Love.

1019
00:54:18,600 –> 00:54:21,100
Like she would make suggestions
in the studio and Courtney Love.

1020
00:54:21,100 –> 00:54:23,300
Would scream at her Cheryl are
stupid.

1021
00:54:23,300 –> 00:54:26,200
Yep.
And she was very unhappy with

1022
00:54:26,200 –> 00:54:31,200
the experience in general.
So once they finish recording

1023
00:54:31,200 –> 00:54:34,200
the album, she goes back to
Minneapolis, she has to

1024
00:54:34,200 –> 00:54:36,000
contractually, go on this world
tour.

1025
00:54:36,000 –> 00:54:38,900
But other than that, she wants
nothing to do with this band.

1026
00:54:38,900 –> 00:54:40,300
Yeah.
Around this time.

1027
00:54:40,300 –> 00:54:45,100
Kristin fast mother says that
Cobain asked her to Join a new

1028
00:54:45,100 –> 00:54:48,400
band.
He was forming what we’ll Bubba?

1029
00:54:48,400 –> 00:54:49,700
That’s interesting.
That’s pretty cool.

1030
00:54:49,900 –> 00:54:55,000
But then Kurt died and Kristen
faff as a result of Kurt dying

1031
00:54:55,100 –> 00:54:58,600
quits using drugs altogether.
She’s like, I get it.

1032
00:54:58,800 –> 00:55:00,400
I’m gonna die if I keep doing
this.

1033
00:55:00,500 –> 00:55:05,200
Yeah, I need to get it together
and she’s getting ready to go on

1034
00:55:05,200 –> 00:55:08,000
this tour, but she’s moved to
Minneapolis, but she still has

1035
00:55:08,000 –> 00:55:12,400
all the shit in Seattle.
So, she and a friend, a guy

1036
00:55:12,400 –> 00:55:16,200
named Is it Paul?
Eric’s Hall Erickson?

1037
00:55:16,600 –> 00:55:20,500
They rent a U-Haul and drive to
Seattle to get Kristen fast

1038
00:55:20,500 –> 00:55:22,100
stuff.
Now, remember by this time,

1039
00:55:22,100 –> 00:55:25,100
she’s off drugs, yeah, I’ll
drugs, she’s done with whole,

1040
00:55:25,300 –> 00:55:27,500
she’s done with whole, she’s off
drugs.

1041
00:55:27,500 –> 00:55:30,100
She’s just going back to Seattle
to this is stuff.

1042
00:55:30,100 –> 00:55:32,300
This is live through this era,
right?

1043
00:55:33,100 –> 00:55:37,500
And her friend Paul Erickson
because the neighborhood that

1044
00:55:37,500 –> 00:55:42,700
she lived in was so concentrated
with Heroin users, he slept in

1045
00:55:42,700 –> 00:55:46,800
the, in the you Overnight to
make sure no one stole our shit.

1046
00:55:47,400 –> 00:55:53,100
And what he claims is that at
one point, Eric erlandsson shows

1047
00:55:53,100 –> 00:55:57,400
up, walks into the apartment, is
there for about 30 minutes.

1048
00:55:57,800 –> 00:56:00,500
And then leaves the next
morning.

1049
00:56:00,900 –> 00:56:05,500
Paul Erickson.
Finds Kristen fath, dead of a

1050
00:56:05,500 –> 00:56:08,800
heroin overdose in her bathtub.
Oh, shit.

1051
00:56:08,800 –> 00:56:12,000
Jesus Christ.
Which that?

1052
00:56:12,000 –> 00:56:15,100
Why has that not been?
Investigate.

1053
00:56:15,100 –> 00:56:18,000
It was I never heard that.
Yeah, I’ve never heard that part

1054
00:56:18,000 –> 00:56:21,400
of the story.
So it sounds to me, like Eric is

1055
00:56:21,400 –> 00:56:24,100
kourtney’s.
Handler, Eric is like kourtney’s

1056
00:56:24,300 –> 00:56:27,300
right on the ground.
She’s gonna pay your fine guitar

1057
00:56:27,300 –> 00:56:28,500
player.
But, I mean, if you want to roll

1058
00:56:28,500 –> 00:56:31,200
with me, you got to do some
dirty work, but I think he’s on

1059
00:56:31,200 –> 00:56:34,000
his.
It seems like he’s, this is a

1060
00:56:34,000 –> 00:56:35,900
huge book.
We didn’t cover everything, but

1061
00:56:35,900 –> 00:56:38,800
yeah, that’s kind of the
implication is that he’s part of

1062
00:56:38,800 –> 00:56:40,100
it.
So yeah, I’m gonna pull

1063
00:56:40,100 –> 00:56:42,800
Erickson’s part of it, know that
Derek Arlen celery.

1064
00:56:43,300 –> 00:56:45,100
Yeah.
Guitar player from Whole.

1065
00:56:45,100 –> 00:56:47,200
Yeah.
And because if you remember,

1066
00:56:47,200 –> 00:56:49,700
when all those weird videos of
Courtney and Kurt are going

1067
00:56:49,700 –> 00:56:52,800
around with Frances Bean.
Eric is the one filming them.

1068
00:56:52,800 –> 00:56:54,500
Eric is, like, present in their
life.

1069
00:56:54,500 –> 00:56:56,600
He’s always around.
Okay?

1070
00:56:56,600 –> 00:56:57,600
Interesting.
Yeah.

1071
00:56:57,900 –> 00:57:00,300
So, when you watch that Montage
of heck, stuff, or any of that

1072
00:57:00,300 –> 00:57:03,600
stuff where it’s like, the two
of them, kind of weird and naked

1073
00:57:03,600 –> 00:57:07,200
with the baby, Eric’s the one in
the room filming them, that

1074
00:57:07,200 –> 00:57:11,100
weird at all.
It’s very, very strange, that’s

1075
00:57:11,100 –> 00:57:15,600
not good.
So police When they find Kristen

1076
00:57:15,600 –> 00:57:19,200
faff not only do they find drug
paraphernalia and Drugs in her

1077
00:57:19,200 –> 00:57:21,500
apartment.
They also find that several

1078
00:57:21,500 –> 00:57:23,900
pages from her journal have been
removed.

1079
00:57:23,900 –> 00:57:26,700
Holy shit.
My God is she fucking practicing

1080
00:57:26,700 –> 00:57:30,300
faff handwriting?
Yeah, man, riding.

1081
00:57:31,100 –> 00:57:32,700
But that’s weird.
That’s bizarre.

1082
00:57:32,700 –> 00:57:35,300
Yeah, that’s like really fucking
to their.

1083
00:57:35,300 –> 00:57:38,400
They are so bad at murder but
they keep getting away with it.

1084
00:57:38,700 –> 00:57:41,600
And then the question becomes,
well, if they were this bad at

1085
00:57:41,600 –> 00:57:43,100
it, why wouldn’t they get
arrested?

1086
00:57:43,200 –> 00:57:45,200
Because they’re in the city, Cuz
there’s yeah, they’re

1087
00:57:45,200 –> 00:57:48,000
Untouchable there.
You can’t arrest them.

1088
00:57:48,500 –> 00:57:50,400
We just we just got a call from
the feds.

1089
00:57:50,400 –> 00:57:55,600
It said stop if you like having
a kid that is alive.

1090
00:57:56,200 –> 00:57:58,500
They said that’s for everybody.
Yeah I just got this.

1091
00:57:59,200 –> 00:58:01,600
It’s got this weird text.
It says there’s no one, you

1092
00:58:01,600 –> 00:58:04,600
know, we can’t get that.
Yeah it says we know what you

1093
00:58:04,600 –> 00:58:06,200
did.
Got a new know what I’m talking

1094
00:58:06,200 –> 00:58:08,400
about.
Says I’m in a black van right

1095
00:58:08,400 –> 00:58:10,100
now.
I don’t even stress.

1096
00:58:12,100 –> 00:58:15,500
Dude, I feel like this pizza
truck is following me around,

1097
00:58:16,000 –> 00:58:18,700
so, I’m sorry.
Wait, should we be using our

1098
00:58:18,700 –> 00:58:21,000
real names on there now?
Okay, now, yeah.

1099
00:58:21,400 –> 00:58:23,400
Connor mcspadden, Thank you for
listening.

1100
00:58:23,500 –> 00:58:28,700
Yeah, that doesn’t help.
I’m Alan Todd beige.

1101
00:58:28,800 –> 00:58:33,100
Yeah, and I’m Trevor crock and
enjoyed being here.

1102
00:58:33,500 –> 00:58:37,400
So, the last thing and this is
probably just an unimportant

1103
00:58:37,400 –> 00:58:41,500
side note, but the same coroner,
who immediately ruled Kurt

1104
00:58:41,500 –> 00:58:46,500
Cobain’s a debt Cobain’s death
as a suicide immediately ruled

1105
00:58:46,500 –> 00:58:51,200
Kristen FAFSA, death as an
accidental overdose and decided

1106
00:58:51,200 –> 00:58:55,400
there was no need for further
investigation but I’m sure it

1107
00:58:55,400 –> 00:58:58,600
says they only got the one
corner if that one corner up

1108
00:58:58,600 –> 00:59:02,000
there and he’s like now these
kids in heroin every time just

1109
00:59:02,000 –> 00:59:07,200
nip, you know?
Man, it’s a weird like this.

1110
00:59:07,200 –> 00:59:08,900
Show me a picture Eric
erlandsson.

1111
00:59:08,900 –> 00:59:10,800
I want to see if he looks like
Tom Petty.

1112
00:59:10,800 –> 00:59:12,900
He looks like Tom.
Yeah he does kind of look like

1113
00:59:12,900 –> 00:59:18,100
Tom Petty but like Tom Petty.
If yeah looks like that.

1114
00:59:18,300 –> 00:59:20,200
This guy looks a shit ton like
Tom.

1115
00:59:20,200 –> 00:59:24,000
Yeah, this guy is a murderer.
That’s he’s got another vase

1116
00:59:24,000 –> 00:59:25,700
that guy.
Well, look at this a cover.

1117
00:59:25,700 –> 00:59:28,200
Look at this motherfucker.
That picture looks like he’s

1118
00:59:28,200 –> 00:59:32,400
about to record a YouTube video
about Chemtrails.

1119
00:59:32,400 –> 00:59:35,600
Oh yeah.
So looks like he’s Eric Stoltz

1120
00:59:35,600 –> 00:59:37,600
in The Mask, trying to be Tom
Petty.

1121
00:59:37,600 –> 00:59:40,600
He looks like someone like made
a shitty clone of Beck and he

1122
00:59:40,700 –> 00:59:45,300
didn’t Really.
So that guy’s definitely not out

1123
00:59:45,300 –> 00:59:48,400
there murdering her blimp a, for
the CIA are bet got a little

1124
00:59:48,400 –> 00:59:51,400
melty, a little stretchy.
Yeah, totally, what we were

1125
00:59:51,400 –> 00:59:56,600
going for the first Pancake of
Beck’s, so that’s the MKUltra

1126
00:59:56,600 –> 00:59:59,500
and Courtney Love conspiracy
changes Christ.

1127
00:59:59,500 –> 01:00:02,300
It’s one of the craziest ones I
think we’ve covered, but it’s

1128
01:00:02,300 –> 01:00:05,900
also not not compel shockingly,
convincing.

1129
01:00:06,100 –> 01:00:09,800
You know, it makes the title of
live through this even more

1130
01:00:09,800 –> 01:00:10,900
terrifying.
Yes.

1131
01:00:10,900 –> 01:00:12,500
Like it’s less of a like, oh,
what?

1132
01:00:12,500 –> 01:00:14,200
I’ve endured.
It’s A warning.

1133
01:00:14,400 –> 01:00:17,000
It’s more of I’m coming for and
don’t forget live through.

1134
01:00:17,000 –> 01:00:22,400
This was released a week before
he died a week after he died.

1135
01:00:22,400 –> 01:00:25,400
So that title had been in the
works for months.

1136
01:00:25,500 –> 01:00:25,900
Right?
Right.

1137
01:00:25,900 –> 01:00:26,300
Right.
Right.

1138
01:00:26,300 –> 01:00:28,000
It’s not like they just that’s
the name of the first whole

1139
01:00:28,000 –> 01:00:29,100
album.
Yeah.

1140
01:00:29,100 –> 01:00:31,900
The one that came out seven days
after he died shit.

1141
01:00:31,900 –> 01:00:32,600
Yeah.
Yeah.

1142
01:00:32,600 –> 01:00:35,300
It’s fucking do this.
That’s that’s some real you know

1143
01:00:35,500 –> 01:00:36,600
ready to die.
Life.

1144
01:00:36,600 –> 01:00:38,600
After death shit.
Yeah, you know sir.

1145
01:00:38,600 –> 01:00:41,300
I mean also should be called I
am not a CIA operative.

1146
01:00:41,400 –> 01:00:43,000
I mean that should have been the
general of it.

1147
01:00:43,400 –> 01:00:47,700
Oh, I see.
So that’s that’s that

1148
01:00:47,700 –> 01:00:49,300
conspiracy.
Jesus.

1149
01:00:49,300 –> 01:00:52,100
I grind it rather.
Compelling, will probably cover

1150
01:00:52,100 –> 01:00:55,000
more stuff from this book
there’s but if anyone wants to

1151
01:00:55,000 –> 01:00:55,600
read it.
Yeah.

1152
01:00:55,600 –> 01:00:59,000
Drugs as a weapon against us,
there’s some crazy shit in my

1153
01:00:59,000 –> 01:01:02,900
God.
And man, Courtney Love is in the

1154
01:01:02,900 –> 01:01:07,000
CIA and then she tries to break
into Hollywood after that.

1155
01:01:07,300 –> 01:01:10,000
Then James you gotta find
someone to assassinate Jim

1156
01:01:10,000 –> 01:01:12,100
Carrey, right?
And did a pretty good job.

1157
01:01:13,800 –> 01:01:16,600
Wow.
All right, so we should wrap it

1158
01:01:16,600 –> 01:01:18,300
up.
This was a fun episode.

1159
01:01:18,300 –> 01:01:19,700
Travis, thank you for joining
us.

1160
01:01:19,700 –> 01:01:22,600
Thanks for having me on.
This is really cool and fun to

1161
01:01:22,600 –> 01:01:24,600
talk about all this crazy shit
around.

1162
01:01:25,300 –> 01:01:26,300
Fuck yeah.
Cheese.

1163
01:01:26,300 –> 01:01:29,400
When we inevitably talk about
this again, on heart-shaped pod

1164
01:01:29,400 –> 01:01:32,300
will have to have honoured.
Yeah, well close the loop

1165
01:01:32,900 –> 01:01:34,600
because that’s definitely gonna
happen.

1166
01:01:34,700 –> 01:01:36,000
Kitchen.
Counters inoperative and

1167
01:01:36,000 –> 01:01:42,500
murders, all of us start
podcasting operations.

1168
01:01:44,000 –> 01:01:47,500
It makes sense.
Yeah it’s frankly I’d be honored

1169
01:01:47,800 –> 01:01:50,600
to die that way like the
government says stooge after

1170
01:01:50,800 –> 01:01:52,900
I’ve been slowly poisoning, Tony
Hinchcliffe.

1171
01:01:52,900 –> 01:01:57,500
And Brian red band.
Up-and-coming comedy assassin.

1172
01:01:57,500 –> 01:01:59,800
Connor mcspadden.
Took me out what a fucking

1173
01:01:59,800 –> 01:02:01,200
honor.
I’m good.

1174
01:02:01,200 –> 01:02:02,700
Yeah.
Well it’s she shouldn’t have

1175
01:02:02,707 –> 01:02:04,800
slept in the U-Haul.
That’s that’s called is the

1176
01:02:04,808 –> 01:02:08,300
mistake never helped me move.
That’s what you’ve learned.

1177
01:02:08,900 –> 01:02:10,800
So what do we have to plug
before we get out of here?

1178
01:02:10,800 –> 01:02:15,700
This is a free episode.
So check out And.com Uhn pops

1179
01:02:15,900 –> 01:02:20,100
for a bonus episode of me.
Connor and Travis talking about

1180
01:02:20,100 –> 01:02:23,900
Kurt Cobain’s death Brew which
went up last week and to get

1181
01:02:23,900 –> 01:02:25,600
bonus episodes of all the
podcasts.

1182
01:02:25,600 –> 01:02:27,500
That shit was co-hosts us as
fuck.

1183
01:02:27,600 –> 01:02:30,000
All these great people including
heart-shaped Potter.

1184
01:02:30,000 –> 01:02:31,400
Shape, pod is what I would
recommend.

1185
01:02:31,400 –> 01:02:34,600
You also check out that’s are
all Nirvana podcast unclear.

1186
01:02:34,600 –> 01:02:36,000
How it’s going to end still
there?

1187
01:02:36,000 –> 01:02:39,700
Yeah, sure.
I’m really excited to see how

1188
01:02:39,700 –> 01:02:41,900
that story ends in a while to
support.

1189
01:02:41,900 –> 01:02:46,800
What he’s up to.
Put out a record crazy.

1190
01:02:47,700 –> 01:02:49,000
So yeah, check out her shape
pod.

1191
01:02:49,000 –> 01:02:50,900
Also follow me on this socials
at mr.

1192
01:02:50,900 –> 01:02:53,800
Travis Clark, man.
Big old Mean, Boys tour.

1193
01:02:53,800 –> 01:02:56,100
I’m probably right in the thick
of it right now, we’re going to

1194
01:02:56,100 –> 01:03:00,300
Wisconsin fucking other places,
Chicago Fort Wayne.

1195
01:03:00,300 –> 01:03:02,000
It’s on the website.
You probably heard me say the

1196
01:03:02,000 –> 01:03:07,200
days before New York Philly, DC
Pittsburgh tickets are cheap and

1197
01:03:07,200 –> 01:03:09,300
it’s a fun time.
So buy them at mean, boys.

1198
01:03:09,300 –> 01:03:11,700
Podcast.com?
All right, let’s get the fuck

1199
01:03:11,700 –> 01:03:13,200
out of here.
Connor say goodbye.

1200
01:03:13,500 –> 01:03:15,200
Goodbye everybody.
Travis say goodbye.

1201
01:03:15,200 –> 01:03:17,400
Goodbye goodbye everybody.
We love you.