Conspiracy! The Show Remembering Art Bell (Conspiracy! The Show Legacy Collection)

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Welcome to conspiracy the show
with your host, Adam Todd Brown

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and Connor mcspadden.
Hey everybody, Welcome to

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I’m Adam Todd Brown.

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I’m gonna be spending, we’re in
the new studio, we are.

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I love the aesthetic in here
it’s because you get a very

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unpopped Vibe.
Yeah, it is a fucking party room

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for sure it is.
Yeah, it’s soon as I was done

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with it I was like I want to
clear all this studio shit out

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and just put a couch up here.
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Yeah you want to just like look
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Yeah, it would be so much better
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It’s just professional enough
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accoutrement a schedule around,
you know, the Iron Giant and the

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corners, it’s be kind of
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I feel like a dominated.
The old space.

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You know, we got the 911.
Thank you for turning that on.

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Yeah, it’s supposed to be a
topic board but I just keep

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forgetting to update it before
we record.

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So this should say Art Bell
which would be kind of a nice

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tribute to Art Bell.
Absolutely recently.

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Yeah, his name and flashing
lights, you know, in the video

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or whatever, but it just It says
night 11:00.

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So every thumbnail is going to
look like wow, these guys are

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really on this 9/11 thing, I
mean 60 episodes.

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Wow.
Someday I’ll start updating it.

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Yeah.
And yeah, the Iron Giant.

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If he looks different he’s I cut
him off at the knees.

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Oh you did I do actually folded
them?

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Yeah, didn’t actually cut it but
it’s folded.

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So when we live stream you can
have them in frame.

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You can see his head instead of
his crotch.

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It’s a sacrifice.
He made.

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Yeah, food for the betterment of
the network.

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He did that for us, you know,
he’s He’s least.

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Capron looking at Iron.
Giant is taking a knee for the

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eye pops of video framing.
Exactly.

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So this is the last episode of
conspiracy theorist month.

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Yeah, give better no conspiracy
theory.

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Yeah, we are in paying homage to
our predecessors.

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We’re finishing strong with one
of the fucking Pioneers.

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Yeah.
Really like the, like The

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Grandmaster Flash and the
furious five of conspiracy

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theorists and also one of the
more mainstream conspiracy

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theorist because his shit was
just we’re talking about art.

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Bell.
Yeah.

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And his show was just on AM
radio.

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Fo.
Yeah, the world to hear.

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It’s fun and it’s great.
If you like, if you’re if you’re

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driving back late in the night
in the middle of nowhere, you

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tired of everything on your iPod
just fine.

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Look up.
One, could wear Coast to Coast

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AM, is this country wide?
And it’s just good ass late

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night drive entertainment
because even now the new guy,

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George Noory, who I think does a
nice job.

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It’s yeah he just humors
everybody rev really.

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I think I’ve heard him snap and
call somebody ridiculous once

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you know and I’ve listened to
probably to 2:00 A Coast to

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Coast AM over the years and it’s
just it’s just nice for like

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yeah.
And tell me more about the the

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sky lasers.
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He’s very that’s a it’s a thing
that it’s a point that comes up

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in this episode and it’s one of
the criticisms of Art Bell and

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coast to coast is that he wasn’t
critical enough of these people

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and I mean that is he’s like Joe
Rogan for truck drivers.

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Yeah is kind of what he was.
You know this is a quote on that

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very subject from a guy named.
Michael Powell.

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Writer for the outline.com.
And he wrote an article about

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Art Bell and this is this was
written after Art Bell died.

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And this is a quote like Orson
welles’s War of the Worlds or

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the overnight, radio Pioneer
Long, John Neville, before long

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john Art Bell Amalgamated the
ambience of the Twilight and the

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crackling.
Wobbly theater of the Mind

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quality offered by AM radio to
Act in immersive world.

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That was mysterious intriguing.
A bit foreboding.

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Sometimes unsettling, and often
outright absurd, but always with

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The Whimsy of campy horror or a
B-movie.

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Yeah, it didn’t take itself that
seriously, right?

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You know, like there’s like I
didn’t even Trevor does in the

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comic and Bakersfield I was
staying with them like 45 years

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ago.
Tells me this amazing, Art Bell.

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Sorry, I’ve been trying to find
the clip forever but he’s like,

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yeah, I’m driving back from a
gig, you know, I’m listening to

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Coast to Coast.
So, you know, art bells on and

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this Truck driver calls in and
he’s like a, I think I saw a

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ghost start and arts, like, okay
go on, where’d you see?

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It is.
Well, it’s driving him, a truck

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goes popped up in the middle of
the road went under the wheels.

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So I almost lost control and
then Arts.

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Like are you sure you didn’t
just hit a guy with your truck

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is a, it was a ghost hardly.
This is a guy who’s calling into

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Art Bell to cope with the fact
that he had just committed a

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hit-and-run.
That’s amazing.

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It’s so fucked up.
Yeah, that was the thing about

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Art Bell he would just take the
calls.

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Oh yeah.
We wanted to call in.

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He had a dedicated line for
people who wanted to talk about

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Area, 51.
Oh yeah.

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How great would that be if you
just like I got the 800 bucks

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for the phone bill every year to
just have the, you know, above

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2/5 11 extension.
Yeah, that was a yeah.

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Fucking the great thing about
radios.

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It’s like you listen to like a
lot of radio.

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Guys will do a podcast now.
It’s like the people calling in

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are all their fans.
Yeah, but if it was just whoever

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happened to fucking pop them on
the dial, you got some weird.

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That’s what made like the old
line shows so good, you know,

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and now like that feeling.
Like we’ve kind of lost the

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ability to have that, you know,
because it’s not radio like we

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figure out a way to get that
back.

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Yeah, I don’t know.
I don’t know if there is in

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terms of just getting randos
calling in.

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Yeah, because we both have
voicemail lines and we get

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people calling in and it’s
great.

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It’s hilarious.
But it’s like people that listen

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to the podcast.
Yeah, you know, it’s not just

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like, hi, my name is Sally.
I’m a housewife and the Midwest,

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and I really think these jokes
you’re making about the, you

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know, the kids internment camps
are really in.

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It’s like, if you could get some
of that, that’s kind of where a

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lot of the magic is ready.
Yeah.

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We’ll figure it out.
Yeah.

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Just start making bumper
stickers with our phone number

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and just put them everywhere,
you know.

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So Art Bell a little bit about
his early life.

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He was interested in radio from
a young age.

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Became an amateur radio
operator.

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At the age of Thirteen served in
Vietnam as a medic but also

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rebelled by creating a pirate
radio station that deliberately

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played anti-war music.
That’s fucking great.

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Yeah it’s fun.
I said what was what was all the

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I felt it couldn’t have been
that much anti-war.

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Music that it just like we’re
going to play Eve of

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Destruction.
Okay.

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And over again, one Viet the
Vietnam era of the Vietnam era.

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Yeah I’ve seen he’s a lot older
for some reason.

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Yeah, he stayed in Okinawa after
the war.

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That’s not in Vietnam.
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And created another radio
station where he achieved a

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Guinness World Record by
remaining solo on the air for

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116 hours.
Did I need a cliff bar in a

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Naked Juice?
After 45 minutes, man, doing a

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bad podcast?
Can you imagine I think, for 116

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hours, I did the 2 a.m. to 6
a.m. stretch of a 24-hour

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podcasting thing.
Once it even that I was like,

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what am I doing?
Yeah, let’s about a matter.

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Rolling 3:00 in the morning.
Yeah.

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Yeah.
Shouldn’t be doing this.

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But he was doing it to raise
money to Charter.

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A plane to rescue orphaned
Vietnamese children, who are

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stranded in Saigon damn, what a
guy.

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Yeah, that’s pretty fucking
great.

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That’s cool.
Usually when you move to Okinawa

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after the war, you’re just like
I found out how easy it is.

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To open a brothel here.
I’m Gonna Be Rich.

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I think that was our earlier
me’s thing.

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I think he started like a
whorehouse in like some like one

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of the day.
Yes, I’m restoring the Pacific

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after after his service or
whatever, and then just brought

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one of them bag.
He had like.he it, married to

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that woman like, you know, until
he did until he died.

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I think.
And mental, I died a beloved

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hero inside lmedear2 era.
Yeah, well, an amazing story,

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really got out of that.
Like, what?

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Like when Indiana Jones grabs,
the whip, you know, he’s just an

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safe, you know, I’m just the Toy
Story guy.

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Not the oh, man.
We got to find a different guy

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for the Small Soldiers mobile
game.

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Small Soldiers was so fucking
good.

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I mean it was just Gremlins with
toys.

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I didn’t see it for a long-ass
time.

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Yeah, it’s Gremlins yeah.
Made by the same person.

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It’s the same movie.
So Coast to Coast AM is what Art

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Bell is best known for he
recorded at his private Studio

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on his Ranch in Pahrump.
Oh I’ve been to Pahrump in the

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Nevada desert.
That’s the dream, man.

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Yeah, dude.
Fucking doing just lived out,

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his days chilling in his house,
taking phone calls.

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Oh, yeah.
Yeah.

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When you have enough money like
the one of the, dudes, I forget

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if it’s Kevin or being just
looks like on an island outside

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of like the Oregon somewhere.
You know, and he just does the

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show from there and he’s just
like yeah like traffic’s crazy

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and he’s just like guns fucking
weird.

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Most dangerous game as private
island to you know I would take

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a fully paid off building in
Detroit.

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And this point if I could just
broadcast from There, the rest

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of my days.
Oh dude.

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That would be, though.
Be very on-brand for you, you

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know?
Yeah, for sure.

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Yeah.
At some point, you’d run into

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Eminem at like the fucking Pink
Dot and become friends with them

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or the Imagine The Hound past.
I imagine they still have picked

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on Detroit, that’s how far back
it is.

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Yeah.
Insane Clown Posse would

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probably end up on the podcast.
Yeah, some point I guess they’re

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gettable, you know.
Yeah they’re gettable and

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they’re they’re one of those
groups where on the surface they

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seem awful but also they’re like
super anti Trump.

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Super.
Yeah.

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They’re like racism like good
dudes.

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Yeah.
It’s like they just make

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terrible music and have awful
fans.

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Yeah.
Mike uh Clark’s you me this

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video of fucking to just like a
juggalo and a slipknot fan, you

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know, it’s like what can’t
Juggalos and maggots be friends.

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And it’s like like 14 and
talking about how, like, yeah

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people pick on me because I dyed
my hair blonde, but fuck, you

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weird about the music.
And it’s just like most

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heartwarming shit in the world.
You like all these kids, this

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really makes you feel like
America’s gonna be all right.

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He was like, yeah, I watch this
like 30 times after Trump won

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just to remind myself about the
spirit of Man.

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Oh, that’s beautiful.
Yeah, I just check that out.

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I did Bonkers with a z in
Pahrump and it was just like,

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one of these like, is that a
comedy is to clean in big-ass,

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fucking air quotes.
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these like hotel ballrooms that
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uncomfortable ass, like the
realest Realtors of like shit,

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fuck County are meeting here
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like hey the old people, what’s
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You have you guys remember when
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it would be weird.
Guy was a fucking worse.

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We should try to do a live pot.
There sometime.

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We should do live from Peru.
Um, before they got a Denny’s we

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can make it happen, maybe we
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Maybe.
Yeah, it’s like there’s so many

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people that went to Marc maron’s
garage when he sold his house.

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He see all those pictures.
Oh, really?

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Yeah, cause you could like, give
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just people are gonna want to go
see the garage, you know?

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The only house I’ve wanted to

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see in La, when it went on the
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Murder house.
Oh, the similar to that I

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honestly could be called a
little Feliz murder house.

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Glenn Danzig house.
I got to go to Glenn Danzig,

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huh?
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Is that on the market now?
I don’t know if it’s on the

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market but I think he like
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He just kind of owns it real pop
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But I just want to go see like,
where he because it’s like a

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bungalow.
It’s like, you know, like weird.

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Imagine like a pretty dark, like
a porn producer would live, you

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know?
So I just, I just want to go pay

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my respects.
Maybe we’ll do a mean boys in

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the driveway or something.
So yeah, Coast-to-Coast.

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He recorded it in his private
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On his Ranch sometimes had
celebrity.

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Guest Willie Nelson.
On Leonard Nimoy was on.

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I remember Judah friedlander was
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just weird.
You would feel like he was not

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like famous by the time like
when he was still doing the show

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because George and ours, but I
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but yeah, yeah yeah.
George nor has been on for a

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while.
Art Bell came back and replaced

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him.
Briefly at one point.

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He Jay Leno Tim.
Yeah, no shit, because he wasn’t

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happy with how political nor he
was taken it.

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The other dude, nor he’s in
charge net when I do listen to

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Nora.
Now he’ll have like a guy from

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Infowars on a lot like in the
beginning like he’ll do.

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He’ll do kind of like the news
of the week in like the First 15

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minutes.
They’ll be like whoa George you

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know?
Like I don’t again I don’t get

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the get the feeling that George
is a bad guy.

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I think he’s just like well what
is a yam have?

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Well maybe, maybe they are
crisis, actors wild anyway.

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Like he just he everything gets
the same level of like wow no no

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kidding.
You can talk to dead.

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Go you know because every single
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like oh wow.
Yeah you know like like a good

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like School therapist.
We’re still no kid, no the hot,

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a fucking coat, hanger that.
Wow, that’s crazy will have to

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yeah, conspiracy theories are
just getting so much.

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More divisive now.
Yeah and they’re becoming part

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of current news like the fun
with like the Katy Perry is

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JonBenet Ramsey, type fun ones
that are more or less harmless

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or pretty like few and far
between and now we have no time

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for that.
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No.
It’s all just like, oh the did

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you know BP puts with cat shit
and your Nilla wafers?

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And you’re like I don’t know
what the fuck ever, man during

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Halloween they would change the
name of the show to Ghost to

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Ghost.
AM like it like it.

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Like an old comic on Twitter
where they take the dick

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Halloween James, Olmos, I’m
afraid to do that because every

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once in a while, I want to do a
silly, Twitter name for some

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events.
But I’m like, what if I die and

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for the rest of my life, my
Twitter is a Connor.

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Mix Pookie, you know like gone
Armageddon Point.

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Yeah, I’ve never changed.
My mind.

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Has always said Adam Todd Brown
me neither yeah maybe someday

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maybe probably not, probably not
now I don’t I don’t even want to

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put like my credits in my bio
because I feel like that looks

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tacky, you know.
Yeah, I have some jewelry key

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Publications.
Just two people like no like,

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you know, I have sound but just
because I’m verified and I want

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people to understand why So and
also you know just in case

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anyone wants to hit me up about
writing.

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Yeah.
Yeah I know it’s a thing I do.

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Yeah but no one wants to hit me
up about writing.

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That’s why I do these podcasts
don’t know.

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But that anyone everyone
listening again be verified.

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I’ve applied a few times and
I’ve been been had roundly

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rebuffed.
When was the last time you were

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applied maybe like a year ago?
Yeah.

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I feel like you could get on.
Now I’ve had like some big

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accounts steal my shit and
apparently that’s a good way to

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get verified.
Oh yeah.

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Yes I might be able to To be
like, hey, you know, yeah.

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Because if so we had Andrew poke
on.

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Did you see his whole thing with
Draymond Green?

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No, because he okay.
So, he tweeted a joke about

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like, I hope Draymond Green gets
shot in the face because he was,

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I guess hitting people in the
face and Charles Barkley, made

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some joke about assume, it’s
some, like little like Angry

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comparison after whatever
basketball team lost and he’s

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pissed off about it and then he
just like got fucking lit up

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like he had to delete his
account Draymond talked about in

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the press conference.
Draymond greens mom was tweeting

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at him.
It’s like death threats on death

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threats on death threats.
And he’s and I was like, what?

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I was like, what it was?
You were you Five four music.

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Oh yeah, fuck.
Jerry just stole one of my

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tweets and I got verified
nothing.

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It was that easy I could have
done this shit when George Takei

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was sharing my Obama memes like
oh yeah for sure.

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Yeah so anyway back to our pal,
Ghost to Ghost, AM back to Art.

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Bell Ghost to Ghost.
Best Adult Swim show in my

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opinion.
I fucking love Space Ghost Coast

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to Coast.
Oh I watched a little bit of it

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was fun.
It was amazing.

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One of his most famous episodes
art Bells not Space.

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Ghost was an interview with guy
named madman, Markham, who

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claimed that sounds like a Like
the best delta blues player, you

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know exact man.
Yeah, Markham to the, you know,

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hear the train to come in and
wow, it’s chilling.

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But he actually built a time
machine.

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And in the episode, we can’t
play.

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I couldn’t find any good clips
from it, but it’s absolutely one

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of art Bells most famous
episodes.

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But the entire thing is online.
It’s like 45 minutes long and he

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talks to Belle about the process
of making the time machine and

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how his attempts to create the
time machine.

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Created Power interruptions
around, Kansas City.

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The machine was created using
six power Transformers that Mark

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them stole, and for which he was
arrested on felony charges, I

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like the dude, that is so
confident that his time machine,

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not not the government’s are
like the fucking the Nikola

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Tesla’s lost designs.
The one that he a guy who goes

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by the name madman, thought
about that.

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He’s like I will risk Grand
Theft, you know, to make this

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thing happen.
I know the schematics.

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Racked and to put forth a theory
like that and then call yourself

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mad man.
It’s like do you want no one to

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believe you?
Oh yeah, for sure.

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Yeah, call yourself Chuck or
something?

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Yeah.
That’s like being a trauma

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therapist.
In a wife beater at Yad

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aesthetic.
Look.

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Um I like yeah, trustworthy
academic name like Chuck.

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It would be better than madman.
I do feel like a guy with the

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monosyllabic name is more
trustworthy, you know?

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Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, you don’t want a real

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anytime.
Someone’s trying to give you

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some information, and they have
a really flowery name.

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Yeah.
It’s alright.

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Alright.
Okay.

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Your real name sir?
Yeah.

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Okay.
Skyler, you know, but it’s but

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it’s like Bob told me that this
is how I’m like yeah.

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Bob seems like there’s no
fucking crazy Bob’s.

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Yeah, unless he’s got a car
dealership somewhere in the

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midwest.
Crazy Bob’s Auto Sunday, Sunday,

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Sunday, did I got my car got
fucked up in Oklahoma City and I

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had to go take it in to get like
a fuel pump replaced and I

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remember like thinking like dude
I’m gonna get gouge.

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Hard.
I got California plates, I got

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the Nazi haircut, so I literally
put on like my dirty is jeans.

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I have my Timberland boots with
me, you know, I got like just

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like a wife beater.
I literally went in with like a

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hat on like a dirty, like
baseball cap that I found and I

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just was like doing a fake
accent like yeah, I’m a damn

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sister borrowed.
The I just was like, trying to

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like sound cool and I was like,
yeah, I think it’s the fuel

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pump, I’d do it myself.
But I gotta, I gotta go haul a

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load or whatever.
I was just doing this fucking

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dumbass redneck, like improv
care.

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Character, you know?
And it’s the dudes were all just

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like all right, sir?
Yeah, that’ll be 750 dollars.

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Get the fuck out of our office
and that’s the story of how

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Connor kept from getting
kidnapped on the road.

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Yeah, yeah.
It’s just it was one of the

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dumbest wicked things vary
though.

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Because I’m just like, look, I
know this is stupid, but I gotta

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try.
There’s another.

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Let’s skip ahead a little bit.
I want to talk about the story

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that I’ve always known Art Bell
for Most.

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Yeah.
From Coast to Coast AM because

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there is a pretty important one
where him not being critical of

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things really becomes an issue.
Yeah, but it ain’t this one,

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this story alleges that to
Russian engineer’s, drilled a

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hole deep into the ground
somewhere in Siberia and at some

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point they punctured a cavity at
which point the heat becomes too

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intense.
Yeah.

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For them to keep drilling but
also they claim they hear

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screams.
Coming from inside the Earth.

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Yeah, we got open lines here.
Oh, we got dr.

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Evil on the phone.
Yes.

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Hello art.
And there is a clip from this.

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No, it’s fucking weird shit,
dude.

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And there’s I think a long intro
from Art Bell so you can hear

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what he sounds like, Xander
Trotter presents.

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Okay, Xander.
I do like, when just the first

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guy finds the audio and puts it
on YouTube and he gets his

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windows movie Waker credits.
Yeah, I warned you.

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This could scare you.
Here’s the email.

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Dear aren’t Bill.
I just recently began listening

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to your radio show and could not
leave it when you talked about

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the sounds from Hell tonight.
My uncle had told me this story

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a couple of years ago and I
didn’t believe them like one of

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your listeners who discounted
the story is nothing more than

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just a religious newspaper.
Sounds like you said a just

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telling a Campfire Story.
Oh yeah, yeah.

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Of the whole and the hearing of
the sounds from hell is very

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real it.
Did occur in Siberia, my uncle

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collected videos, and audio
tapes, and so forth on the

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Paranormal Supernatural.
He passed away fairly recently

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but he would have loved your
show.

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You let me listen to one of the
audio tapes that he had a police

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badge on his Patrol.
I think Syria and I copied it,

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he received his copy from a
friend who worked at the BBC It

433
00:19:51,300 –> 00:19:54,600
took me a while to find my weed
tastes like crap, right now,

434
00:19:54,700 –> 00:19:59,400
when she’s here, is that sound
from my uncle’s tapes, did you

435
00:19:59,400 –> 00:20:03,300
it’s not great as an old pipe
around or they’re not that old.

436
00:20:03,300 –> 00:20:08,400
I was very happy, send you.
This, as the sound bothers me to

437
00:20:08,400 –> 00:20:10,700
listen to you, I’d suggest that
if you do, play it on the

438
00:20:10,700 –> 00:20:13,700
program, Warren listeners.
In, this would be a great

439
00:20:13,700 –> 00:20:17,200
agility, a pop sketch Journey.
Yeah, it’s all cut in 30

440
00:20:17,200 –> 00:20:22,000
seconds, while it plays it has.
Is haunted, me?

441
00:20:22,500 –> 00:20:24,700
Should have been the intro to
this pod, Iberia.

442
00:20:24,700 –> 00:20:27,200
Oh, yeah, it should have been.
It is true.

443
00:20:27,600 –> 00:20:31,900
And I, for one, someone will
steal that idea from us, Rick,

444
00:20:32,000 –> 00:20:34,800
listening from Chicago, has
verified on Twitter.

445
00:20:34,800 –> 00:20:38,700
So I said, yeah, they cleaned
better copy to you.

446
00:20:38,800 –> 00:20:43,100
And here are our you what you’re
about to hear is very disturbing

447
00:20:43,100 –> 00:20:47,000
indeed.
And then the beat for New York

448
00:20:47,000 –> 00:20:59,800
State of Mind drops.
That’s how everybody this is

449
00:20:59,800 –> 00:21:02,100
Anna.
Hell sounds like there’s a good

450
00:21:02,100 –> 00:21:03,800
hundred hundred and fifty people
topic.

451
00:21:04,200 –> 00:21:11,700
Yeah, yeah.
But here’s here’s the problem.

452
00:21:12,100 –> 00:21:16,000
It was actually discovered at
one point that if you can

453
00:21:16,000 –> 00:21:19,900
believe it, that’s not hell.
What those were sound effects

454
00:21:19,900 –> 00:21:23,300
that were pieced together from
the soundtrack to an old movie.

455
00:21:23,500 –> 00:21:25,800
Oh, yeah.
I mean, if it doesn’t the hell,

456
00:21:25,800 –> 00:21:27,700
it’s the same thing as anything
else.

457
00:21:27,700 –> 00:21:32,000
If a portal to Hell opened on
Earth, you wouldn’t hear about

458
00:21:32,000 –> 00:21:33,100
it on Coast-to-Coast.
Yeah.

459
00:21:33,100 –> 00:21:34,500
Like art bells and I getting the
scoop.

460
00:21:34,500 –> 00:21:36,300
It’s like when people watch
those, Ghost Hunter shows.

461
00:21:36,300 –> 00:21:38,500
I think a comic had a bit about
this so I apologize but it’s

462
00:21:38,500 –> 00:21:42,300
just like it would have been on
the news before like the AMC

463
00:21:42,300 –> 00:21:44,900
wouldn’t sit on it for six
months while they edited it

464
00:21:44,900 –> 00:21:46,300
right?
And be like well we got the

465
00:21:46,300 –> 00:21:49,100
exclusive with the proof that
there’s ghosts.

466
00:21:49,100 –> 00:21:50,900
Yeah, that would have been
CNN’s.

467
00:21:50,900 –> 00:21:55,300
Number one story for five years
but there’s another story that

468
00:21:55,300 –> 00:21:57,900
plane is still missing.
Also life after death confirmed.

469
00:21:59,700 –> 00:22:01,900
There’s another really famous
episode.

470
00:22:01,900 –> 00:22:08,700
It was a November 1996 show, In
which Art Bell suggested that

471
00:22:08,700 –> 00:22:12,700
the Hale-Bopp Comet was being
followed by a UFO.

472
00:22:12,900 –> 00:22:15,400
There was is a broken taillight
on the comment.

473
00:22:15,400 –> 00:22:20,800
If there was an amateur
astronomer named Chuck, there we

474
00:22:20,800 –> 00:22:21,600
go.
Chuck.

475
00:22:21,700 –> 00:22:24,400
Oh hey really.
Reasonable sounding name.

476
00:22:24,400 –> 00:22:26,500
Looking good old Chuck, Chuck
Schramm.

477
00:22:26,500 –> 00:22:29,900
Mc0 took a photo of the comedies
back at Chuck is lost.

478
00:22:29,900 –> 00:22:33,000
My ceramic ceramic.
That’s not a great name, is what

479
00:22:33,000 –> 00:22:35,300
we checking into a hotel under
an alias because you’re, you

480
00:22:35,300 –> 00:22:37,200
know, good.
A kilo of Coke from someone you

481
00:22:37,200 –> 00:22:42,000
love and just we need a name,
Chuck last name, she’s a

482
00:22:42,008 –> 00:22:43,600
hammock.
I said Schramm.

483
00:22:43,600 –> 00:22:48,500
Mc0, yeah, yeah, he claimed to
see a large object, following

484
00:22:48,500 –> 00:22:50,100
the comet, another guest to the
show.

485
00:22:50,100 –> 00:22:53,800
Courtney Brown, a political
science professor at Emory

486
00:22:53,800 –> 00:22:57,600
University, claim that observers
working under him had confirmed

487
00:22:57,600 –> 00:23:00,000
that the object was a UFO.
I’ll fuck.

488
00:23:00,000 –> 00:23:01,400
Would they confirm that?
Yeah.

489
00:23:01,400 –> 00:23:04,300
How do you like, whoop for sure
it out, you know, I sure don’t

490
00:23:04,300 –> 00:23:06,400
know what that is.
I mean by confirming that

491
00:23:06,400 –> 00:23:09,000
something is identified as not
like that.

492
00:23:09,000 –> 00:23:11,700
Like yep, I we’ve confirmed that
we don’t know what that is.

493
00:23:11,700 –> 00:23:14,300
Yeah, exactly.
I don’t know what flavor of

494
00:23:14,300 –> 00:23:16,700
Monster Energy.
Drink you’re drinking right now.

495
00:23:16,700 –> 00:23:21,600
It’s it’s a it’s a you d-don’t
identified drink.

496
00:23:21,600 –> 00:23:24,200
I was going to do another
initial but I don’t I honestly

497
00:23:24,200 –> 00:23:26,100
don’t even know what flavor this
is supposed to be.

498
00:23:26,100 –> 00:23:27,600
It’s just the white one, you
know.

499
00:23:27,600 –> 00:23:29,200
Yeah.
The white can I prefer the

500
00:23:29,200 –> 00:23:32,000
orange Coors Light when you came
in?

501
00:23:32,100 –> 00:23:34,300
Oh no.
That’d be funny.

502
00:23:34,300 –> 00:23:35,500
If I just pulled it.
Yeah, I do.

503
00:23:35,700 –> 00:23:43,600
Our new car, the problem.
So Bell ran with Browns input

504
00:23:43,600 –> 00:23:47,500
until two scientists from the
University of Hawaii revealed

505
00:23:47,500 –> 00:23:51,100
that brown had shown Bell.
A doctored version of their own

506
00:23:51,100 –> 00:23:54,700
work and Art Bell scrubbed.
His sight of the initial

507
00:23:54,700 –> 00:23:58,800
information about the UFO and
never had Brown back on and that

508
00:23:58,800 –> 00:24:01,600
would have all been, you know,
just another case of

509
00:24:01,600 –> 00:24:07,400
misinformation, if not for the
fact that on March 19th and 20th

510
00:24:07,400 –> 00:24:10,800
of 1997.
Happy 21st birthday to me.

511
00:24:11,300 –> 00:24:15,200
The Heaven’s Gate, cult through
on a collective, pair of fresh

512
00:24:15,200 –> 00:24:18,500
Nikes and committed mass
suicide.

513
00:24:18,700 –> 00:24:22,400
Wow, and members of the group
believe that the Earth itself

514
00:24:22,400 –> 00:24:25,100
would soon be destroyed.
And to save themselves meant

515
00:24:25,100 –> 00:24:30,400
ascending to the UFO, alongside
the comet and to reach that UFO

516
00:24:30,400 –> 00:24:34,900
meant that they must graduate,
which was commit suicide.

517
00:24:35,700 –> 00:24:40,100
And the main Heaven’s Gate page
seems to suggest that they took

518
00:24:40,100 –> 00:24:43,500
into account that Bell disavowed
his earlier claims of the UFO

519
00:24:43,500 –> 00:24:47,100
saying quote, whether Hale-Bopp
has a companion or not, is

520
00:24:47,100 –> 00:24:51,200
irrelevant from our perspective.
However, under the section

521
00:24:51,200 –> 00:24:54,400
connecting links, the website
Creator, still posts a

522
00:24:54,400 –> 00:24:58,800
now-defunct link to the Art Bell
web page as well as Chuck

523
00:24:58,800 –> 00:25:04,000
Schramm, exhale, Bop companion
page which leads to the big news

524
00:25:04,000 –> 00:25:05,400
here.
Holy shit Connor.

525
00:25:05,600 –> 00:25:08,500
Yeah, the Heaven’s Gate website
is still online.

526
00:25:08,800 –> 00:25:11,000
What’s funny about me to.
This is that they’re like well

527
00:25:11,000 –> 00:25:13,600
the world’s ending but we’re
going to pay for 30 years of

528
00:25:13,600 –> 00:25:15,100
Hosting, you know.
Yeah.

529
00:25:15,100 –> 00:25:18,800
Like has someone just I want to
know who’s keeping this thing

530
00:25:19,200 –> 00:25:21,000
up.
I’m this one, the internet

531
00:25:21,000 –> 00:25:23,100
looked like this, like the
geocities era?

532
00:25:23,200 –> 00:25:26,100
Yeah, there’s a red alert.
Flashing at the top.

533
00:25:26,100 –> 00:25:28,400
It just, it’s a gift that says
Red Alert.

534
00:25:28,400 –> 00:25:30,800
Yeah.
And then this is our background.

535
00:25:32,000 –> 00:25:35,300
I bring it in terms of like mid
nineties, graphic.

536
00:25:35,800 –> 00:25:39,700
Do not do in terribly, you know,
look at like the keyhole thing

537
00:25:39,700 –> 00:25:42,500
with the gate inside like, yeah,
that is a nice image.

538
00:25:42,600 –> 00:25:43,400
That’s a nice.
That’s it.

539
00:25:43,400 –> 00:25:48,500
You know, those someone paid for
the, the Photoshop 95, but there

540
00:25:48,500 –> 00:25:53,400
is we’re going to, I have to go
against, I’d said the word

541
00:25:53,400 –> 00:25:56,600
against because I was just blown
away by the fact that there’s a

542
00:25:56,600 –> 00:25:59,800
link that says our pish our
position against suicide.

543
00:25:59,800 –> 00:26:02,600
Oh yeah.
Feels like they were kind of pro

544
00:26:02,600 –> 00:26:06,100
suit well then it’s graduating
you know, suicide Yeah, it’s

545
00:26:06,100 –> 00:26:08,500
like if you just eat bread
outside of the church it’s bread

546
00:26:08,500 –> 00:26:10,400
but you do it inside its
communion you know.

547
00:26:10,700 –> 00:26:13,500
Right how a member of the
Kingdom might appear.

548
00:26:13,500 –> 00:26:15,800
Oh shit.
It looks like a gray it does.

549
00:26:16,400 –> 00:26:21,100
So we’ll have to go through that
website at some point and you

550
00:26:21,100 –> 00:26:24,200
know that’s pretty great.
I just glancing at it.

551
00:26:24,200 –> 00:26:28,500
See both Ruby Ridge and Waco or
mentioned so it sounds like it’s

552
00:26:28,500 –> 00:26:30,200
right up our alley.
Oh for sure.

553
00:26:30,300 –> 00:26:34,300
But I thought that was really
interesting that that website is

554
00:26:34,300 –> 00:26:36,400
still online.
Alan Hale.

555
00:26:36,400 –> 00:26:39,300
And someone pointed out, I think
the Space Jam website, they see

556
00:26:39,300 –> 00:26:40,900
our website.
Yeah, there’s a few of those

557
00:26:40,900 –> 00:26:42,600
relics out there, that kind of
cool.

558
00:26:42,900 –> 00:26:45,300
And someone’s gotta still be
paying for that, or maybe they

559
00:26:45,300 –> 00:26:48,200
just paid for it for forever.
That maybe they just got some

560
00:26:48,200 –> 00:26:52,200
crazy, like, like fucking
like.com boom era hosting deal,

561
00:26:52,200 –> 00:26:52,800
you know?
Yeah.

562
00:26:53,000 –> 00:26:54,300
Like that might be a bit
honestly.

563
00:26:54,300 –> 00:26:57,100
It’s like there’s I would like
you know, personally crowdfund

564
00:26:57,100 –> 00:26:59,100
the seven hundred dollars it
would take to just be like let’s

565
00:26:59,100 –> 00:27:01,300
have an archive of this up.
We’ll just keep the domain like,

566
00:27:01,300 –> 00:27:02,200
you know.
Yeah.

567
00:27:02,300 –> 00:27:05,100
Some people can remember like,
hey yeah, definitely, I did

568
00:27:05,100 –> 00:27:06,900
people.
Themselves for, you know, for

569
00:27:07,600 –> 00:27:10,800
your comments here, he’s like
maybe a bad move, Alan Hale.

570
00:27:10,800 –> 00:27:14,400
One of the two astronomers who
discovered Hale-Bopp in 1995

571
00:27:14,700 –> 00:27:18,100
called out Bell specifically in
a speech at the second world

572
00:27:18,100 –> 00:27:21,000
Skeptics conference in
Heidelberg Germany.

573
00:27:21,100 –> 00:27:25,300
If you go to skeptic on the
after-party was measured and

574
00:27:25,300 –> 00:27:29,600
reasonable man.
There is girls there with freed.

575
00:27:30,100 –> 00:27:32,800
What a bore act.
He’s you know what?

576
00:27:32,800 –> 00:27:34,800
A boring fucking conference.
Yeah.

577
00:27:34,800 –> 00:27:37,400
What are you going?
As For skeptic on it’s like dude

578
00:27:37,400 –> 00:27:40,200
I got this sick URI Geller
cosplay like I’m going to I’m

579
00:27:40,208 –> 00:27:44,500
going to whip out you know just
a bunch of people who don’t

580
00:27:44,500 –> 00:27:47,200
believe anything.
Oh yeah, yeah just a bunch of

581
00:27:47,200 –> 00:27:50,200
people.
Like that’s just like what do

582
00:27:50,200 –> 00:27:53,500
you even like what’s on display
at a Skeptics conf.

583
00:27:53,500 –> 00:27:56,900
You just line up and like pad
the world’s largest back padding

584
00:27:56,900 –> 00:27:59,900
the ring.
You know, so Art Bell, he

585
00:27:59,900 –> 00:28:05,000
retired from coast to coast in
2010 and was succeeded by George

586
00:28:05,100 –> 00:28:08,000
Noory.
Three and that lasted for a

587
00:28:08,000 –> 00:28:09,600
little while he wrote A Few
books.

588
00:28:09,900 –> 00:28:11,500
One of them was called the
quickening.

589
00:28:11,500 –> 00:28:16,700
Today’s Trends Tomorrow’s World
and in 1999.

590
00:28:16,700 –> 00:28:18,900
He co-wrote with Whitley
strieber.

591
00:28:18,900 –> 00:28:23,400
The book The Coming Global super
storm which was adapted into the

592
00:28:23,400 –> 00:28:25,100
movie, The Day, After Tomorrow.
What?

593
00:28:25,100 –> 00:28:28,500
She I had no idea a little bit
of cheddar for the grandkids not

594
00:28:28,500 –> 00:28:30,600
bad.
I went and saw that shit in

595
00:28:30,600 –> 00:28:33,200
theaters, is it good?
That’s dumb.

596
00:28:33,300 –> 00:28:36,800
There’s a good junk science in
it but it’s And to look at ya

597
00:28:36,800 –> 00:28:39,500
like it’s about to be like the
freezing over in a matter of

598
00:28:39,500 –> 00:28:42,500
days.
Oh okay it’s and Dennis Quaid is

599
00:28:42,500 –> 00:28:45,800
the lead now to action star
Dennis Quaid.

600
00:28:45,800 –> 00:28:50,700
Yeah man the fucking when you
want gravitas in your so yeah

601
00:28:50,700 –> 00:28:54,800
like we said a little bit o also
2008 Art Bell was inducted into

602
00:28:54,800 –> 00:28:59,200
the national radio hall of fame
for those are useless an AM

603
00:28:59,200 –> 00:29:01,600
radio in the car more often I
was like when I first moved out

604
00:29:01,600 –> 00:29:04,600
to LA and I there’s a guy who is
like I got nominated for a

605
00:29:04,608 –> 00:29:06,400
Marconi.
I was like, what the fuck?

606
00:29:06,400 –> 00:29:09,100
He’s like, that’s like the Emmys
for, like, radio and it’s like

607
00:29:09,100 –> 00:29:10,500
your big.
It’s like, he’s like the

608
00:29:10,500 –> 00:29:12,500
personality of the year for.
Like, the Marconi words is like,

609
00:29:12,500 –> 00:29:14,700
this is like the biggest award
and radio and I’ve never heard

610
00:29:14,700 –> 00:29:16,600
of it.
Like, that’s such a bummer, you

611
00:29:16,600 –> 00:29:18,900
know?
Yeah, I think I’ve heard of

612
00:29:18,900 –> 00:29:22,500
Marconi, but if you had asked
me, the name of the biggest

613
00:29:22,500 –> 00:29:26,100
award for radio stations, mmm, I
would have had no clue.

614
00:29:26,200 –> 00:29:28,100
Okay?
Like, I don’t know what the Emmy

615
00:29:28,200 –> 00:29:29,400
like now.
I know it’s the money.

616
00:29:29,400 –> 00:29:31,400
Yeah, no, no, it’s the
Marconi’s, but I remember just

617
00:29:31,400 –> 00:29:33,600
like I think that about stand-up
comedy where it’s just like,

618
00:29:33,600 –> 00:29:37,000
this is such like a fucking it’s
The 12th like art form.

619
00:29:37,000 –> 00:29:38,400
You know?
It’s like, there’s like

620
00:29:38,600 –> 00:29:41,400
sculpture is probably edging us
out at times.

621
00:29:41,600 –> 00:29:43,400
Yeah.
There’s no real awards show for

622
00:29:43,400 –> 00:29:45,500
comedy, comedy.
Central tried to do that.

623
00:29:45,500 –> 00:29:48,400
But it was, I think it was kind
of clearly just like, who’s got

624
00:29:48,400 –> 00:29:50,200
a new Comedy Central show coming
out?

625
00:29:50,200 –> 00:29:51,500
Yeah, they win.
You know.

626
00:29:51,500 –> 00:29:52,600
Yeah.
Yeah.

627
00:29:52,600 –> 00:29:54,600
They’re it’s one of the Mark
Twain award.

628
00:29:54,700 –> 00:29:56,300
You know?
I don’t even know what that is.

629
00:29:56,300 –> 00:29:58,500
That’s like the every year they
give like, the Mark Twain award.

630
00:29:58,600 –> 00:30:00,300
It’s I’m not racist.
I am, dude.

631
00:30:01,200 –> 00:30:02,700
Bladon even Twain out of my
head.

632
00:30:02,700 –> 00:30:05,100
I do, don’t I don’t acknowledge
easy, and we’re too much.

633
00:30:05,100 –> 00:30:07,700
So, I think Eddie Eddie Murphy
actually kind of did a stand-up

634
00:30:07,700 –> 00:30:09,700
said when he got his like award.
So it’s kind of cool to see

635
00:30:09,700 –> 00:30:10,800
Eddie Murphy these stand up
again.

636
00:30:10,800 –> 00:30:11,800
He’s funny.
Oh wow.

637
00:30:11,800 –> 00:30:13,400
Doing some Bill Cosby said, you
know?

638
00:30:13,600 –> 00:30:15,000
Yeah, yeah.
So yeah.

639
00:30:15,000 –> 00:30:17,500
What was Eddie Murphy on where
they were?

640
00:30:17,800 –> 00:30:21,400
Was he on SNL?
Yeah, it was the SNL like a one

641
00:30:21,400 –> 00:30:23,500
of the reunions specials.
Oh yeah.

642
00:30:23,500 –> 00:30:26,300
The 41 and they were like his
Eddie Murphy gonna do stand up.

643
00:30:26,300 –> 00:30:27,700
He did not.
He did not know.

644
00:30:27,700 –> 00:30:28,900
Yeah.
Fucking, yeah, that was the one

645
00:30:28,900 –> 00:30:31,000
where they had Kanye on and he
threw out his voice.

646
00:30:31,100 –> 00:30:34,300
Oh yeah, I was so bummed out.
I was like, oh, no poor cognac,

647
00:30:34,300 –> 00:30:35,400
is it was really cool.
Look.

648
00:30:35,600 –> 00:30:37,300
Like, it was like, a great
performance, but it’s just like

649
00:30:37,300 –> 00:30:38,800
how this fucked-up voice.
Yeah.

650
00:30:38,900 –> 00:30:41,800
So, let’s talk about some of the
criticism of Art Bell.

651
00:30:41,800 –> 00:30:45,500
Like we mentioned earlier in the
episode, he takes a different

652
00:30:45,500 –> 00:30:50,500
approach to conspiracy theories,
he doesn’t really take a side so

653
00:30:50,500 –> 00:30:53,800
much as he just lets people talk
and says, oh yeah that’s

654
00:30:53,800 –> 00:30:57,200
interesting.
And doesn’t there’s no critique.

655
00:30:57,200 –> 00:30:58,500
There’s nothing critical about
it.

656
00:30:58,500 –> 00:31:00,100
He doesn’t really question
anybody.

657
00:31:00,300 –> 00:31:02,100
Yeah.
He’s just like, well, it’s if

658
00:31:02,300 –> 00:31:04,600
that’s kind of my role when I
listen to Coast to Coast AM is

659
00:31:04,600 –> 00:31:07,400
like Until I get back from
Irvine.

660
00:31:07,400 –> 00:31:10,600
I believe that ghosts are real,
you know, I just enjoy it like

661
00:31:10,600 –> 00:31:14,400
that, but I think that a lot of
the criticism around him

662
00:31:14,600 –> 00:31:17,300
centers, on the fact that a lot
of people who listen to it,

663
00:31:17,600 –> 00:31:20,600
don’t think of it like that.
A lot of people just hear it as

664
00:31:21,000 –> 00:31:24,400
oh, well, this is news.
And I believe this, all, and if

665
00:31:24,400 –> 00:31:29,000
you get in too much of a rut of
just listening to it every day,

666
00:31:29,100 –> 00:31:32,400
huh, eventually it’s going to.
It’s going to take hold.

667
00:31:32,600 –> 00:31:35,400
And this is in an article for
the committee.

668
00:31:35,600 –> 00:31:39,900
Of skeptical inquiry which also
sounds like a fucking party

669
00:31:40,200 –> 00:31:43,700
Thomas giannone rights.
Does Bell fear that he may be

670
00:31:43,700 –> 00:31:47,700
contributing to the dumbing down
of America by refusing to be

671
00:31:47,700 –> 00:31:51,000
critical of his paranormal
topics hardly.

672
00:31:51,800 –> 00:31:55,100
Although he acknowledges that
there is indeed a dumbing down

673
00:31:55,400 –> 00:31:59,700
Bell scoffs at suggestions that
he Bears any responsibility, he

674
00:31:59,700 –> 00:32:03,900
discusses the Paranormal because
as he says, it’s what people

675
00:32:03,900 –> 00:32:05,800
want.
And if it contributes Tributes

676
00:32:05,800 –> 00:32:09,400
to a population increasingly
unable to critically evaluate

677
00:32:09,400 –> 00:32:12,500
his shows topics.
It’s not my responsibility as

678
00:32:12,500 –> 00:32:16,400
his refrain Bell doesn’t seem to
care.

679
00:32:16,500 –> 00:32:18,800
Those are things you forget when
you look at something like man

680
00:32:18,800 –> 00:32:21,300
isn’t this stupid that there are
people who are like oh no, it’s

681
00:32:21,300 –> 00:32:22,600
not stupid at all.
They’re definitely.

682
00:32:22,600 –> 00:32:23,900
Yeah.
Mind control serum and your

683
00:32:23,900 –> 00:32:26,400
fucking tap water.
Yeah, it helped Trump win the

684
00:32:26,400 –> 00:32:28,100
election.
No basically.

685
00:32:28,500 –> 00:32:30,400
And it’s like, it’s like this is
fun.

686
00:32:30,400 –> 00:32:32,900
It’s like a, you know, like a
like a rhesus.

687
00:32:32,900 –> 00:32:35,100
It’s like, you know, this is
great if you have one.

688
00:32:35,500 –> 00:32:38,500
Every, you know, three weeks,
but if you have other people who

689
00:32:38,500 –> 00:32:40,200
just every time they go to the
grocery store, they get a

690
00:32:40,200 –> 00:32:43,400
building size and it’s like,
yeah, you just, you can’t be

691
00:32:43,400 –> 00:32:46,500
responsible to use this, right?
Like how it should like it’s

692
00:32:46,500 –> 00:32:48,800
just like, oh yeah, listen to
these dip shits.

693
00:32:48,900 –> 00:32:49,900
Yeah.
Is what the shit?

694
00:32:49,900 –> 00:32:52,600
What it should be taken as but
right, it should be taken as

695
00:32:52,600 –> 00:32:54,100
entertainment.
Yeah.

696
00:32:54,200 –> 00:32:59,000
And that was, I went on a tirade
not too long ago about Facebook

697
00:32:59,000 –> 00:33:03,000
and how if that’s going to be
Facebook’s argument that, hey,

698
00:33:03,000 –> 00:33:05,400
we’re not a news site.
We’re like an entertainment and

699
00:33:05,500 –> 00:33:06,700
and ship site.
Yeah.

700
00:33:06,700 –> 00:33:08,800
Well then you got to put a
banner on your site that says

701
00:33:08,800 –> 00:33:10,500
that.
Yeah, it needs to be really

702
00:33:10,500 –> 00:33:12,100
clear.
That everything here is just for

703
00:33:12,100 –> 00:33:15,100
entertainment purposes and
should not be construed as news,

704
00:33:15,100 –> 00:33:17,000
but even then you put that
Banner of no one’s going to read

705
00:33:17,000 –> 00:33:19,000
it, don’t ya think, seriously,
just kind of think it’s a

706
00:33:19,008 –> 00:33:21,100
government plot to hide the
truth.

707
00:33:21,100 –> 00:33:23,700
There’s like, if you think of
all the Genies, you can’t get

708
00:33:23,700 –> 00:33:26,100
back in the bottle and like that
might be the biggest one is,

709
00:33:26,100 –> 00:33:29,700
it’s like the fucking inability
to discern like an objective

710
00:33:29,700 –> 00:33:32,500
news source.
You see, Elon Musk new thing

711
00:33:32,500 –> 00:33:35,000
where he’s like I want to start
a web so you can like rate like

712
00:33:35,500 –> 00:33:38,000
Put on The credibility of
journalists and I will have like

713
00:33:38,000 –> 00:33:41,000
a score and it’s like that’s
just going to turn into like a

714
00:33:41,000 –> 00:33:42,300
worm.
It’s just going to turn into

715
00:33:42,300 –> 00:33:43,900
like a.
Like when complex does like who

716
00:33:43,900 –> 00:33:47,000
drop through the hot issue of
2018 and you’re just like, oh

717
00:33:47,000 –> 00:33:49,300
man, whoever whoever has got the
most retweets you know like low

718
00:33:49,300 –> 00:33:51,300
the bar although any brown guys
are going to vote for his ugly

719
00:33:51,300 –> 00:33:52,600
shoe even though it sucked or
whatever it is.

720
00:33:52,600 –> 00:33:54,700
Yeah Eddie internet system like
that.

721
00:33:54,700 –> 00:33:58,800
That’s ever been created.
Someone finds out how to game it

722
00:33:58,900 –> 00:34:01,300
eventually.
It’s like it’s any incentive

723
00:34:01,300 –> 00:34:02,500
people.
Find out how to game.

724
00:34:02,500 –> 00:34:03,100
You know.
Right.

725
00:34:03,100 –> 00:34:04,200
It’s like that.
Like that chapter and

726
00:34:04,200 –> 00:34:06,500
Freakonomics with this guy’s
just Like oh, every time give my

727
00:34:06,500 –> 00:34:10,199
daughter a chocolate bar of time
she shits in the toilet and then

728
00:34:10,199 –> 00:34:13,699
she just like, would go drop to
like little fucking things of P

729
00:34:13,699 –> 00:34:15,600
way. 10 minutes.
Go drop a little more P.

730
00:34:15,600 –> 00:34:17,400
You know.
She immediately like found a way

731
00:34:17,400 –> 00:34:19,199
to abuse it.
Like that’s just how it how it

732
00:34:19,199 –> 00:34:23,500
goes, you know, right.
And that’s kind of the argument.

733
00:34:23,500 –> 00:34:27,600
People have had against Art
Bell, is that he doesn’t really

734
00:34:27,600 –> 00:34:30,699
make a distinction between
entertainment and news.

735
00:34:30,699 –> 00:34:35,000
He just presents the information
about doing the same bucket and

736
00:34:35,000 –> 00:34:39,400
this is Other quote from Robert
Baker, who was also writing for

737
00:34:39,400 –> 00:34:42,800
the committee of skeptical
inquiry or CSI.

738
00:34:42,900 –> 00:34:45,000
And he was writing about the
book, The quickening.

739
00:34:45,300 –> 00:34:48,199
We’ve long known that art says
my mom’s basement.

740
00:34:49,699 –> 00:34:52,400
We’ve long known that Art Bell
night radios paranoid

741
00:34:52,400 –> 00:34:55,500
propagandist knows how to Rave
and rant.

742
00:34:55,600 –> 00:34:58,600
What we didn’t know was whether
or not he could read and write.

743
00:34:58,700 –> 00:35:00,900
Damn, you know, that’s harsh,
you know, you know it’s harsh

744
00:35:00,900 –> 00:35:02,600
when he’s got the alliteration.
Yeah.

745
00:35:02,600 –> 00:35:05,300
Naturally.
He also wrote just as he does.

746
00:35:05,400 –> 00:35:11,100
His nightly radio diatribes bail
in this word assembly is out to

747
00:35:11,100 –> 00:35:14,300
terrorize.
Anyone naive enough to read him,

748
00:35:14,800 –> 00:35:18,300
each chapter of this book.
Book in quotes begins with a

749
00:35:18,300 –> 00:35:21,100
little story, I’m shade story
that.

750
00:35:21,100 –> 00:35:23,100
So that’s how you throw shade
when you were fucking write

751
00:35:23,100 –> 00:35:26,200
articles is like you’re like
sarcastic quotes yakked Lee

752
00:35:26,600 –> 00:35:29,400
whose intent is to frighten.
One into believing the human

753
00:35:29,400 –> 00:35:33,000
race, has had it.
The best that can be said about

754
00:35:33,000 –> 00:35:35,300
the quickening, is that it is
indeed.

755
00:35:35,600 –> 00:35:37,500
Sickening man.
That’s not.

756
00:35:37,500 –> 00:35:40,100
I feel like you could come up
with a better slams.

757
00:35:40,100 –> 00:35:41,500
Like if they had a look a roast
battle.

758
00:35:41,500 –> 00:35:44,300
It’s like the Pulitzer like
conference, you know.

759
00:35:45,200 –> 00:35:47,600
Yeah.
It’s his indeed sickening.

760
00:35:47,600 –> 00:35:50,100
Yeah.
Like old Crowd Goes Wild.

761
00:35:50,100 –> 00:35:53,300
Like fuddy-duddy at shade is so
funny to me, you know?

762
00:35:54,400 –> 00:35:56,300
Yeah.
Because it rhymed, it’s just

763
00:35:56,300 –> 00:35:57,500
that me.
Yeah.

764
00:35:57,500 –> 00:36:00,100
And we’ll just because the guys
got a tie in his, about the

765
00:36:00,100 –> 00:36:02,000
author picture.
You’re like, wow, man, he’s

766
00:36:02,000 –> 00:36:06,400
pissed.
So the thing about, About the

767
00:36:06,400 –> 00:36:12,000
committee of skeptical inquiry
is there kind of criticizing Art

768
00:36:12,000 –> 00:36:16,600
Bell for not doing a thing that
they’re also not doing which is

769
00:36:17,100 –> 00:36:20,100
approaching this with like
taking these stories with a

770
00:36:20,100 –> 00:36:21,300
grain of salt.
Yeah.

771
00:36:21,400 –> 00:36:25,600
Like they want Art Bell to be
really explicit about that but

772
00:36:25,700 –> 00:36:28,400
they’re not doing that like
they’re taking these things.

773
00:36:28,600 –> 00:36:32,700
Really fucking seriously and
writing these angry letters and

774
00:36:32,700 –> 00:36:35,300
books and shit about it.
But it’s like, how about you

775
00:36:35,500 –> 00:36:38,800
Acts also.
Yeah, like the thing about this,

776
00:36:39,100 –> 00:36:41,100
I don’t know.
Well, that’s the thing.

777
00:36:41,100 –> 00:36:44,300
The Heaven’s Gate thing is the
only one where it’s like, yeah,

778
00:36:44,300 –> 00:36:46,500
maybe he should have been a
little more skeptical.

779
00:36:46,600 –> 00:36:48,600
But it’s like, I don’t know.
They got a point.

780
00:36:48,700 –> 00:36:50,900
You know there.
Yeah, they do not have a point.

781
00:36:50,900 –> 00:36:53,000
Yeah.
And it’s like, where do you draw

782
00:36:53,000 –> 00:36:54,100
the line?
How do you drive?

783
00:36:54,100 –> 00:36:57,100
And how do you make it clear
that it’s just bullshit while

784
00:36:57,100 –> 00:36:59,800
still making it fun and still
getting the people on to talk

785
00:36:59,800 –> 00:37:02,100
about it is the entertainment
value.

786
00:37:02,100 –> 00:37:04,900
You get from hearing a woman who
thinks she’s a psychic worth the

787
00:37:04,900 –> 00:37:07,100
fact that There are some people
that will actually believe this

788
00:37:07,100 –> 00:37:10,300
and go spend their fucking, you
know, government fixed income

789
00:37:10,300 –> 00:37:12,300
checks on crystals that you
order in the mail.

790
00:37:12,300 –> 00:37:15,100
It’s like, I don’t know where
you fucking, I don’t know where

791
00:37:15,100 –> 00:37:19,500
you, you take a stand exact, and
then do you, do you have to take

792
00:37:19,500 –> 00:37:22,600
on stuff like the weekly world
news to which them?

793
00:37:23,200 –> 00:37:26,200
Like a lot of times that’s bat
boy, has been discovered in a

794
00:37:26,207 –> 00:37:29,200
cave, but then, it’s also.
Sometimes here’s a picture of

795
00:37:29,200 –> 00:37:31,200
Hillary Clinton meeting with
aliens.

796
00:37:31,500 –> 00:37:34,500
Yeah, and most of us, see that.
And we’re like, oh, that’s so

797
00:37:34,500 –> 00:37:35,300
stupid.
Yeah.

798
00:37:35,600 –> 00:37:37,600
And then there’s some people who
are going to read that go.

799
00:37:38,100 –> 00:37:40,000
I don’t know man.
I saw this thing about Hillary

800
00:37:40,000 –> 00:37:42,300
Clinton meeting with aliens, get
a couple weeks.

801
00:37:42,300 –> 00:37:44,700
I’ll so I don’t know if I can
hold for and her emails.

802
00:37:44,900 –> 00:37:47,500
So I don’t know if I can vote
for we and then it’s also like,

803
00:37:47,500 –> 00:37:51,000
you know, the like the people
that emphasize the importance of

804
00:37:51,000 –> 00:37:53,600
freedom of speech are often the
the most.

805
00:37:53,600 –> 00:37:56,800
Like, I don’t know.
Kind of undesirable types.

806
00:37:56,800 –> 00:37:58,300
Yeah.
Oaks, you know, but it’s also

807
00:37:58,300 –> 00:38:03,200
like that is kind of like the
cool thing about America that

808
00:38:03,200 –> 00:38:05,000
remains it’s like you don’t have
the language.

809
00:38:05,000 –> 00:38:06,900
So you They can slap a dino
Tucson shit.

810
00:38:06,900 –> 00:38:09,300
If they’d only to talk about it,
like it’s all just kind of like

811
00:38:09,300 –> 00:38:12,200
kind of but like be cool.
Alright don’t fuck over, you

812
00:38:12,200 –> 00:38:15,200
know, Comcast money too much and
you can just so you can say

813
00:38:15,200 –> 00:38:17,000
whatever you want about her
outfit but let’s not talk about

814
00:38:17,000 –> 00:38:19,800
what you did and you know,
Pakistan and that’s happening

815
00:38:19,800 –> 00:38:21,200
right now in England.
Oh yeah.

816
00:38:21,200 –> 00:38:23,200
See that’s going around that the
English.

817
00:38:23,200 –> 00:38:26,100
The British government has just
kind of slapped a don’t talk

818
00:38:26,100 –> 00:38:29,700
about this, notice on it.
And what’s interesting to me is,

819
00:38:29,700 –> 00:38:33,300
I saw someone tweet about it and
I get the sense that this

820
00:38:33,300 –> 00:38:38,000
journalist who’s reporting on it
would Kind of like on our right

821
00:38:38,400 –> 00:38:43,500
where he’s one of those types.
So I saw a tweet and this person

822
00:38:43,500 –> 00:38:47,800
was like, do I care that this,
whatever the guys name is, was

823
00:38:47,800 –> 00:38:50,500
sent to jail for reporting twice
on a story that the government

824
00:38:50,500 –> 00:38:53,100
said, not to report on?
No, I don’t.

825
00:38:53,200 –> 00:38:55,700
And it’s like, all right, don’t
you ever say another fucking

826
00:38:55,700 –> 00:38:59,700
thing about the United States?
Yeah, oppressive in any way.

827
00:38:59,800 –> 00:39:03,300
Yeah, if you’re okay with your
government going, nope, nobody

828
00:39:03,300 –> 00:39:07,300
can report on that story or
you’ll go to the jail and we’re

829
00:39:07,300 –> 00:39:09,800
the oppressive ones.
Yeah well it’s like that would

830
00:39:09,800 –> 00:39:12,700
be pretty fucking oppressive.
How do you like balance your

831
00:39:12,700 –> 00:39:16,300
like empathy for your like like,
you know, like you want people

832
00:39:16,300 –> 00:39:18,400
to like not?
I don’t want anyone to think

833
00:39:18,400 –> 00:39:20,600
that fucking crystals are going
to make them feel better, you

834
00:39:20,600 –> 00:39:22,400
know.
I don’t I just is like just

835
00:39:22,400 –> 00:39:25,800
someone who hates the idea of
like the energy that is expended

836
00:39:25,800 –> 00:39:28,900
to have like you know whatever
these dollars are worth like

837
00:39:28,900 –> 00:39:30,700
wasted on that too.
Could have gone to something

838
00:39:30,700 –> 00:39:33,500
that actually might you know
make your life better the world

839
00:39:33,500 –> 00:39:36,400
better your community better by
you being Productive citizen.

840
00:39:36,400 –> 00:39:38,400
It’s like what would how do you
balance that with like the idea

841
00:39:38,400 –> 00:39:42,000
of wanting a Libertarian free
exchange of ideas, you know.

842
00:39:42,000 –> 00:39:43,700
And how do you like?
And it’s just like there’s the

843
00:39:43,700 –> 00:39:44,800
the answer is like no-one’s
ever.

844
00:39:44,800 –> 00:39:46,500
It’s not going to get better.
People aren’t going to be more

845
00:39:46,500 –> 00:39:48,200
Discerning with how they get
their information.

846
00:39:48,200 –> 00:39:51,800
No, you know, it’s like if you
shut it down that only makes it

847
00:39:51,800 –> 00:39:54,100
more appealing.
It’s like what did you think?

848
00:39:54,100 –> 00:39:55,500
I think?
Do you think God Save the Queen

849
00:39:55,500 –> 00:39:57,900
would have been number one if
they were like, man, fuck you,

850
00:39:57,900 –> 00:39:59,700
you can sell home, everyone
wants now.

851
00:39:59,700 –> 00:40:02,000
It’s like it’s like that’s what
makes it cool.

852
00:40:02,000 –> 00:40:03,100
What does this?
Why smoking?

853
00:40:03,100 –> 00:40:05,200
Cigarettes is still like oh wow,
the guy that guy’s cool.

854
00:40:05,300 –> 00:40:07,100
Cool.
Like it’s like it’s you’re not

855
00:40:07,100 –> 00:40:09,700
supposed to do that.
Yeah, so it’s like I know the

856
00:40:09,700 –> 00:40:10,800
other looking.
What’s the answer?

857
00:40:10,800 –> 00:40:12,600
There isn’t one like we’re
doomed.

858
00:40:12,600 –> 00:40:15,500
It’s kind of a conundrum with
the internet to.

859
00:40:15,500 –> 00:40:19,200
We talked on this week’s episode
of unpopular opinion.

860
00:40:19,200 –> 00:40:24,300
It was about mass shootings and
a lot of it was about in cells

861
00:40:24,300 –> 00:40:28,200
and like that whole and we’re
doing an entire episode of.

862
00:40:28,200 –> 00:40:30,400
We call them our patreon in a
couple weeks.

863
00:40:30,400 –> 00:40:31,300
Exactly.
Yeah.

864
00:40:31,500 –> 00:40:36,900
And the thing is like, there is
definitely A problem with those

865
00:40:36,900 –> 00:40:39,800
groups, which a lot of them
started out as just dudes who

866
00:40:39,800 –> 00:40:43,400
were like, socially awkward and
could not find dates, just

867
00:40:43,400 –> 00:40:46,800
trying to find some support in
the community to talk to and

868
00:40:46,800 –> 00:40:50,100
then all these other radical
type of elements come in and go.

869
00:40:50,500 –> 00:40:53,300
Oh, but also maybe it’s because
we should be allowed to rape

870
00:40:53,300 –> 00:40:55,600
women and own them as property.
Yeah.

871
00:40:55,600 –> 00:40:59,300
And they’re basically getting
radicalized and a lot of people

872
00:40:59,300 –> 00:41:01,200
recognize that.
But what’s the what’s the

873
00:41:01,200 –> 00:41:03,200
solution there?
Do we crack down on the

874
00:41:03,200 –> 00:41:05,000
internet?
Yeah yeah like that’s what we’ve

875
00:41:05,000 –> 00:41:06,900
been.
I’m doing we shut these sites

876
00:41:06,900 –> 00:41:08,900
down, and then they just go to
the dark web.

877
00:41:09,000 –> 00:41:10,400
Yeah.
Where they can’t be shut down.

878
00:41:10,900 –> 00:41:12,000
Well, yeah, this is like like
read.

879
00:41:12,000 –> 00:41:15,000
It was like, had like a cupboard
I think called creep shots.

880
00:41:15,200 –> 00:41:18,500
Whereas basically like guys
taking, you know, candid photos

881
00:41:18,500 –> 00:41:20,900
of attractive women in public,
you know, like oh yeah, you can

882
00:41:20,900 –> 00:41:23,300
see, you know, between her skirt
here while she’s in line, you

883
00:41:23,300 –> 00:41:26,200
know, at the DMV or whatever and
the Crackdown on that, you know,

884
00:41:26,200 –> 00:41:27,700
it’s fucked up.
It’s very fucked up, right?

885
00:41:27,700 –> 00:41:30,500
And then like what it’s like
that then then that just goes to

886
00:41:30,500 –> 00:41:33,600
the dark web like you’re saying
that just gets more and more

887
00:41:33,600 –> 00:41:36,900
like oh like while I was there,
I Figured like I could probably

888
00:41:36,900 –> 00:41:39,300
see, you know this thing.
I’ve always kind of secretly

889
00:41:39,300 –> 00:41:42,000
wanted this year, it’s like this
is no longer scratching the itch

890
00:41:42,000 –> 00:41:44,400
of like I wanted.
Common feel guilty.

891
00:41:44,400 –> 00:41:46,300
So let me find something even
worse than that.

892
00:41:46,300 –> 00:41:47,600
It’s like.
Should you shut the community

893
00:41:47,600 –> 00:41:48,900
down?
Of course, yeah, that’s fucking

894
00:41:48,900 –> 00:41:50,600
you violating people’s privacy.
That’s disgusting.

895
00:41:50,600 –> 00:41:52,200
But it’s like they’re, it’s a
Hydra.

896
00:41:52,200 –> 00:41:54,200
The really, like every time you
fucking take something down,

897
00:41:54,200 –> 00:41:56,400
it’s like, well, okay.
We’ll just do it evil or like

898
00:41:56,400 –> 00:41:58,400
all these people.
You banned from Twitter on Gap.

899
00:41:58,400 –> 00:42:00,200
Now you’ve seen Gap.
No.

900
00:42:00,200 –> 00:42:02,300
Yeah, I was like, alright
Twitter, you know, so it’s like,

901
00:42:02,300 –> 00:42:04,800
it’s basically we’re like Milo
and kind of that kind of class

902
00:42:04,800 –> 00:42:07,500
goes.
As you know and it’s just like

903
00:42:07,600 –> 00:42:10,600
even less of an exchange like
even less of an exchange of

904
00:42:10,600 –> 00:42:13,000
ideas, you know even less.
There’s no chance you’re gonna

905
00:42:13,000 –> 00:42:15,600
win anybody back, you know, and
there’s not there’s not even

906
00:42:15,600 –> 00:42:18,600
like a bunch of people with, you
know, the the so unquote sweets

907
00:42:18,600 –> 00:42:21,000
you in the owns you and it gets
it blows up and you get there.

908
00:42:21,000 –> 00:42:23,700
You don’t even get the shame.
The people you don’t even think

909
00:42:23,700 –> 00:42:26,300
the guy didn’t even get to see
like, oh, 100,000 people,

910
00:42:26,300 –> 00:42:28,900
retweeted me being a dumbass.
Like maybe I’m fucking wrong

911
00:42:28,900 –> 00:42:30,900
here.
I doubt how little that happens.

912
00:42:30,900 –> 00:42:32,900
I think the pro doesn’t happen
often but like there’s no

913
00:42:33,000 –> 00:42:35,100
counter balance to write the
icon for gas.

914
00:42:35,300 –> 00:42:38,200
Really a frog like go check it
out is fucking some upsetting

915
00:42:38,200 –> 00:42:42,700
shit, dude, and when you push
stuff, like deeper and deeper

916
00:42:42,700 –> 00:42:46,900
into the internet, I read an
article when I was researching

917
00:42:46,900 –> 00:42:50,300
the in cells episode that we’re
doing in a couple weeks where

918
00:42:50,300 –> 00:42:53,000
they pointed out.
Well, these communities do lose

919
00:42:53,100 –> 00:42:57,200
followers each time they get
pushed further and further in

920
00:42:57,600 –> 00:43:00,500
and that’s true.
But also, you know, those people

921
00:43:00,500 –> 00:43:02,500
that follow it, every step of
the way.

922
00:43:02,500 –> 00:43:05,100
Oh yeah.
Are the really fucking rabbit?

923
00:43:05,300 –> 00:43:10,200
Adamant followers and that
movement and them having to hide

924
00:43:10,200 –> 00:43:12,900
in a different spot.
Every time is just going to make

925
00:43:12,900 –> 00:43:14,900
them more fucking radical.
Oh yeah.

926
00:43:14,908 –> 00:43:19,400
Like I lie in my own life I used
to go on 4chan r9k and it said

927
00:43:19,400 –> 00:43:23,100
the the the stipulation of this
board is that there’s a

928
00:43:23,100 –> 00:43:26,800
algorithm that projector stops
you from posting the same text

929
00:43:26,800 –> 00:43:28,800
twice.
So once someone’s so this is

930
00:43:28,800 –> 00:43:31,000
designed to make it a more, I
don’t know.

931
00:43:31,000 –> 00:43:33,000
Meaningful discussion, right?
Or whatever.

932
00:43:33,000 –> 00:43:35,100
So you can’t just have the same
kind of like, like you’re gay.

933
00:43:35,300 –> 00:43:38,000
Opie is gay or whatever.
So and this would be like a

934
00:43:38,008 –> 00:43:40,900
largely, a board full of people
talking about like being bad

935
00:43:40,900 –> 00:43:43,100
with women in a fairly benign
way for the most part over.

936
00:43:43,100 –> 00:43:45,700
There is ugly shit for sure.
But it was just like awkward,

937
00:43:45,700 –> 00:43:47,400
teens.
Just you know to hey what kind

938
00:43:47,400 –> 00:43:49,400
of energy do you like, you know,
like what this is.

939
00:43:49,400 –> 00:43:51,600
I listen to this song while I
think about how, I’m too much of

940
00:43:51,600 –> 00:43:54,300
a bitch to ask anybody out and
then they deleted that board and

941
00:43:54,300 –> 00:43:57,200
they made a mirror of it on in
the different we called for Chon

942
00:43:57,200 –> 00:43:59,300
or something and it was just
some of the aren’t on KP 1 over

943
00:43:59,300 –> 00:44:00,400
there and I used to go browse
over there.

944
00:44:00,400 –> 00:44:03,300
And that one was more ugly.
That was more concentrated but

945
00:44:03,300 –> 00:44:06,300
still it was cold brew Fortune.
Can, you know, and like you

946
00:44:06,300 –> 00:44:07,800
think of this happening over and
over again?

947
00:44:07,800 –> 00:44:09,800
Look, you’re just really
whittling it down to the people

948
00:44:09,800 –> 00:44:11,300
that are going to be radical,
right?

949
00:44:11,400 –> 00:44:12,800
It’s like, should you shut it
down like it?

950
00:44:12,800 –> 00:44:14,400
With Fortune out?
The darn on keyboard.

951
00:44:14,400 –> 00:44:16,800
Wasn’t like when no one was
plotting, like school, shootings

952
00:44:16,800 –> 00:44:19,300
or anything but it’s like, you
see that kind of effect, you

953
00:44:19,300 –> 00:44:23,100
know, maybe we should just turn
AM radio over to all of those

954
00:44:23,100 –> 00:44:24,800
people.
Oh, just let them talk to just

955
00:44:24,800 –> 00:44:28,800
sell them but AM radio be
dominated by that faction of the

956
00:44:28,800 –> 00:44:32,000
internet, the rest of us will
take FM radio and the internet

957
00:44:32,000 –> 00:44:34,400
can just go away forever.
Because it’s a cancer, that’s

958
00:44:34,400 –> 00:44:36,400
destroying us.
Yeah.

959
00:44:36,400 –> 00:44:39,100
I mean, like you said, I mean
really happens in a way that I

960
00:44:39,100 –> 00:44:40,700
can still make a living.
Yeah.

961
00:44:40,700 –> 00:44:42,300
So I mean, I want that.
Yeah.

962
00:44:42,300 –> 00:44:44,400
We’ll just do the movie podcast.
Yeah, you know.

963
00:44:44,400 –> 00:44:46,800
So keep it unpopular opinion
will go back to being about

964
00:44:46,800 –> 00:44:49,300
like, gay rap lyrics.
You know, exactly.

965
00:44:49,300 –> 00:44:50,300
Yeah.
And yeah, it is.

966
00:44:50,300 –> 00:44:53,000
It is like, when these things
were it’s like, I mean, this is

967
00:44:53,000 –> 00:44:55,300
what’s the, these is the
Unabomber, right?

968
00:44:55,400 –> 00:44:57,200
You know, like what?
Yeah, what do you do?

969
00:44:57,400 –> 00:45:00,300
Yeah, that so that’s the
basically, the criticism around

970
00:45:00,300 –> 00:45:05,000
Art Bell is, is there enough
criticism or critical thought

971
00:45:05,100 –> 00:45:09,500
going?
And to what he’s doing, he also

972
00:45:09,500 –> 00:45:14,100
had beef with William Cooper,
just like Alex Jones did who’s

973
00:45:14,100 –> 00:45:15,700
William Cooper.
Again remind he’s the guy who

974
00:45:15,700 –> 00:45:17,700
wrote Behold a Pale Horse.
Okay.

975
00:45:17,700 –> 00:45:20,400
And what you had the falling out
with Alex Jones?

976
00:45:20,400 –> 00:45:22,300
Yes, yes.
Basically said he was a Miss

977
00:45:22,300 –> 00:45:25,800
information agent, got you.
Yeah and he says the same thing

978
00:45:25,800 –> 00:45:29,500
about Art Bell.
He was writing about the book,

979
00:45:29,500 –> 00:45:33,200
The quickening and he described
it as one of the most blatant in

980
00:45:33,200 –> 00:45:36,900
your face pieces of new world.
Order propaganda that I have

981
00:45:36,900 –> 00:45:40,600
ever seen.
Damn at one point, Bell did

982
00:45:40,600 –> 00:45:43,800
returned to the airwaves after
he was dissatisfied with the

983
00:45:43,800 –> 00:45:48,600
direction, George Noory was
taking the show, he wants to

984
00:45:48,600 –> 00:45:50,200
show called Midnight in the
desert.

985
00:45:50,200 –> 00:45:52,600
There’s an episode that Joe
Rogan was on, okay?

986
00:45:52,600 –> 00:45:53,700
Yeah.
Because that was kind of his

987
00:45:53,700 –> 00:45:57,200
like, like, like is like Jay Jay
Leno’s garage, where he’s like,

988
00:45:57,200 –> 00:45:58,800
oh yeah, I’m not.
I’d actually didn’t want to stop

989
00:45:58,800 –> 00:46:00,700
being on the radio you know.
Yeah.

990
00:46:01,000 –> 00:46:06,900
And Art Bell, sadly passed away
on Friday the 13th.

991
00:46:06,900 –> 00:46:12,700
Hell yeah, on brand 2018 in
April and so that’s the Art Bell

992
00:46:12,700 –> 00:46:16,500
story and that that wraps up
conspiracy theorist month, next

993
00:46:16,500 –> 00:46:19,700
month, we’re doing sports month.
Oh hell yeah it’s gonna do.

994
00:46:19,700 –> 00:46:20,900
These are the fun ones, you
know?

995
00:46:20,900 –> 00:46:22,200
Yeah.
This is where it’s like that

996
00:46:22,200 –> 00:46:24,300
probably did happen, you know.
Yeah.

997
00:46:25,000 –> 00:46:28,400
We’re kicking off Sports month
with a theory of my own so

998
00:46:28,400 –> 00:46:31,600
interesting.
Okay, it’s just that baseball

999
00:46:31,600 –> 00:46:36,600
manufactured the steroid Scandal
to Cover up their amphetamine

1000
00:46:36,600 –> 00:46:39,500
Scandal and to discredit Barry
Bonds.

1001
00:46:39,500 –> 00:46:41,000
Interesting.
Yeah.

1002
00:46:41,000 –> 00:46:42,900
Okay I’m fucking looking forward
to that.

1003
00:46:43,500 –> 00:46:46,100
So that’s what we got coming up
next week.

1004
00:46:46,200 –> 00:46:53,400
This is a patreon.
Only episode I do believe.

1005
00:46:53,500 –> 00:46:56,900
Mmm so you don’t have to
subscribe to anything baby.

1006
00:46:56,900 –> 00:46:58,800
You already doing it?
You’re already in the club

1007
00:46:58,800 –> 00:47:05,600
scribing already.
Yeah so there’s a live What in

1008
00:47:05,607 –> 00:47:09,800
the world podcast at the end of
June, June 30th at the Hollywood

1009
00:47:09,800 –> 00:47:13,600
Hotel, me and Quincy Johnson,
and a bunch of people who have

1010
00:47:13,600 –> 00:47:17,000
done comedy outside the country,
which does not include me in

1011
00:47:17,000 –> 00:47:19,000
Quincy Johnson.
But would be talking to some who

1012
00:47:19,000 –> 00:47:23,300
have about what that’s like.
And that’s all I got going on

1013
00:47:23,300 –> 00:47:25,200
him on some shows but I can’t
remember what they are.

1014
00:47:26,000 –> 00:47:29,000
Hell, yeah, don’t book me?
I’m bad at promoting Connor.

1015
00:47:29,000 –> 00:47:31,500
What do you got going on?
The end of this month?

1016
00:47:31,600 –> 00:47:33,500
29 and 30th.
I’m down at the madhouse San

1017
00:47:33,500 –> 00:47:35,800
Diego of June.
So, So they’ll be fun.

1018
00:47:35,800 –> 00:47:37,300
If you’re if you down the come.
Come see me?

1019
00:47:37,300 –> 00:47:39,900
Come say hi.
Tell me you listen to the

1020
00:47:39,900 –> 00:47:41,200
podcast.
Will hang out with Chad a little

1021
00:47:41,200 –> 00:47:43,500
bit.
And we’re doing some mean boys

1022
00:47:43,500 –> 00:47:46,500
up in the Pacific Northwest.
So if you’re in Seattle or

1023
00:47:46,500 –> 00:47:50,100
Portland, specifically, go jump
on our email list of the mean,

1024
00:47:50,100 –> 00:47:51,900
boys.
Podcast.com those would be fun.

1025
00:47:51,900 –> 00:47:54,300
Yeah, we just I just got back
from Austin, that someone pops

1026
00:47:54,300 –> 00:47:55,600
people.
Thank you guys for coming out to

1027
00:47:55,600 –> 00:47:57,200
the valve because it’s super
cool.

1028
00:47:57,200 –> 00:47:59,000
And to everyone we met in Vegas
and Denver.

1029
00:47:59,000 –> 00:48:02,300
I’ve had to tell the Randall
Maynard story so many times

1030
00:48:02,300 –> 00:48:03,900
because everyone comes out.
No, I can imagine.

1031
00:48:03,900 –> 00:48:05,200
Was I talking about?
How do you find out the show?

1032
00:48:05,300 –> 00:48:07,600
Like well the Randall thing, you
know, when I just, I just want

1033
00:48:07,600 –> 00:48:10,100
to have like a rehearsed.
Like if I’m doing the couch like

1034
00:48:10,100 –> 00:48:12,000
late night, fucking yeah,
version of it.

1035
00:48:12,000 –> 00:48:14,800
Where I was just like, oh yeah.
So anyway, I’ll tell you the

1036
00:48:14,800 –> 00:48:16,200
Randall mandatory, if you come
on, see me.

1037
00:48:16,700 –> 00:48:18,600
All right.
Let’s get the fuck out of here.

1038
00:48:18,600 –> 00:48:20,900
Connor say goodbye.
Goodbye everybody goodbye

1039
00:48:20,900 –> 00:48:21,900
everybody.
We love you.