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How have you been Laura?
Really lonely.

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Only that it hits, I guess, I’m
good.

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No, I’m green 2020 is going
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many ways and life, living a
healthier better life.

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That I’m paper that I can tell
my parents about go.

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Yeah, that’s good.
Is that?

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I mean, you know, is that why is
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Why you don’t have cigarettes,
you’re trying to be healthier

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tunics.
And yeah, sure.

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I mean, it’s like, you could be
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pop it off and your life, but
you wouldn’t want to talk to

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your parents about you.
Be like I am again, Trail all

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the time.
I can do in rails all the time

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or yeah.
You know you’d be mild about

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store whatever and good parent
would just guess.

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Yeah.
Mine but not, I mean, MIT

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professional success.
Taking my health into a my own

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two paws, doing good things.
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How are you?
I am fine.

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I’m very tired, we’re recording
this late at night, amen.

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Anyway, we’re off to Africa,
Africa, mother Africa, so So

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this documentary that we’re
talking about this week, mmm,

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we’re 41.
I’m glad to be back to talking

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about something that I believe
is probably true in some ways

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that’s that’s fun after we did
the Kobe Bryant thing.

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Yeah.
The in physics did an episode

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about the Wuhan coronavirus
conspiracies which are all

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pretty silly.
Also.

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But now we’re talking about a
documentary called Cold Case.

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Scold Hamish old harsh old
Hammer fogged?

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How much I feel like every it
many of the people talking this

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movie are either very old or not
native speakers of the language

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of Swedish.
So everyone is just baby like I

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don’t show them how management.
Yeah.

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Sounds fun.
What covers a Amish old.

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It covers a thing that happened
in 1961.

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So the people involved are going
to be.

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We’re lucky any of these
motherfuckers are alive in Stay

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in it.
The the main fella he says it is

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a conspiracy theory for senior
citizens.

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Yeah.
How it is described.

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Does that get you hot conspiracy
theorists?

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Who I love it when you appeal to
the elderly.

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Well that yeah, this is a wild
one though and it this isn’t

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your gen Z flat-earthers.
Their fidget Spinners is for the

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old people.
Yeah.

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But it is a weird one.
It’s a, I fucking believe it.

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Like there’s at least one.
Spect of it that I definitely

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believe.
Mmm.

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I mean, I kind of believe all of
it.

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I just don’t know how effective,
all of it was.

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Yeah, I know what you’re saying
and it is nice in opposition.

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The Kobe Bryant thing people
making this are not doing it to

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get more Instagram followers,
right?

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This there are people that have
been there doing it for

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credible.
Reason, working on this theory

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for decades, which that always
kind of does it for me when

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there’s a Like when there’s that
aspect where there’s like one

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guy who’s just like no no no
fuck you I’m right.

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Everyone else is wrong that?
I don’t know.

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Like I like that loan juror.
I like mentality with that one

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person who’s like this
motherfucker is not guilty and I

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am not going to convict them.
Like that’s that’s that’s an

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attitude I can get behind.
You know what I like about it

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from the point of view of a
thing, you do with your free

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time, you know, like You and I
both have pursued stand-up

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comedy.
Yeah, me I pursue said for, like

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10 years and I, you know, I feel
the come feeling for my family

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is, like, you know, why are you
doing this, you’re getting

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nowhere, what are they paying
you, what are you doing for

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this?
And, you know, they’re coming

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down on me at least like
compared to me that guy’s.

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I imagine that guy talking
people.

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So what are you undoing?
You’re investigating this.

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Yeah, one else looking into it.
No, have they done anything with

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what you’re doing?
Know.

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And it’s like humans.
They these people must get that

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shit so much.
More.

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So I’m like oh man I’m doing
amazing compared to them.

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Yeah totally about so that’s
even less rewarding that open.

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My comedy which really like
independently investigating cold

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cases that no one has any
interested.

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Yeah well I think people have
interest in this meal.

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Yes certainly I mean were we
should more recent years?

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Yes the Cold Case.
Yeah we shredded this upon us we

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should fill people in at least
on that part.

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The the theory centers around
the death of a guy named dog

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Hamish old.
Who was As the Secretary General

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of the UN from, oh, I put it in
the notes and he’s at the time

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where the UN is baby.
Un.

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Yeah, it was being its role in
the world on the global stage

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and what it’s what kind of
action it would be able to take

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it as cetera.
Yeah. 1953 is when dog.

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Huh?
Marshall takes over as Secretary

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General of the UN and he died in
1861.

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And that’s what this documentary
is based around.

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Is the death of dog, Hamish old
and the the contention that

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maybe he was murdered as opposed
to having died by natural plane,

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crash causes.
So we are beginning this, it’s

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very sort of vague as to who who
were looking at because it is

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not really a parent.
If there’s the narrator is he an

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actor?
Is he in?

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The instigator, you kind of
don’t know, is he a host, right?

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That’s very sort of mysterious
and then the it’s beautiful

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cinematography is amazing.
There.

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Clearly in Africa, somewhere
mans, wearing all white, very

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strong, right?
It’s a weird documentary in the

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way.
It’s presented for sure.

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It’s very mysterious.
Yeah, and there’s basically the

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it’s the filmmaker we eventually
find out.

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Who is the first shot?
Is him basically.

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Dating the the scenes from this
documentary to a secretary in

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the room who’s on an old timey
typewriter to two women.

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Yeah, two different one in two
different women.

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So yeah, it gets a bit even more
confused than that but I think

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this is a good documentary
technique.

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There’s a lot of many
documentaries like Louis

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Theroux, is my Scientology film,
you know, where he cast actors

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to play David miscavige and they
re recreate scenes so I think

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filmmakers are.
It’s a very interesting take on

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the form of documentary.
Now people are obviously

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Experimenting lot more with how
to tell a narrative story or how

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to begin, you know, to introduce
people to investigation of some

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kind.
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And it is a cool one.
It’s cool shit.

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Yeah.
And it carries on throughout the

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whole movie in the guy he’s he’s
not annoying which is a pitfall

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filmmaker.
Yes, is not a boy, a lot of

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documentary filmmakers like for
a documentary to work if the

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filmmaker is not Likeable they
cannot be in the documentary and

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sometimes an unlikable filmmaker
will make their way into their

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own documentary.
Sure.

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And it’s a fucking nightmare,
but this guy seems cool.

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He’s more Morgan Morgan Spurlock
than Michael Moore.

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Right.
Right.

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And what’s his name, why didn’t
I put these like a mags?

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Matt mads.
It’s mad.

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Mad, sorry, but what’s his last
name?

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I’m gonna fight.
I’m sorry.

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Like, why didn’t I put shit like
this at the beginning?

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Don’t know.
You’re tired.

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It’s like mads board all.
No no no Gordon Bergdahl mads

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bruger.
Sorry I have been stoned.

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I father’s mads bruger.
Which who’s the fucking dude.

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He’s a die-hard is the villain
and DieHard so think bruger Hans

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Gruber Gruber it’s an I think
so.

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Yeah something like that.
Okay so mads Burger not the

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village the same as Gruber.
Not seem as Gruber, not a vice

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reporter.
I know he’s I looked him up.

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He’s a Danish, TV personality,
kind of hooking.

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He looks like a guy from Vice,
but he doesn’t sound like a vise

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reporter.
He looks like most important

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thing he looks like, if the two
people in the Eurythmics formed

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into one person.
Yeah.

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And like Annie lennox’s Hair.
Went down to that dudes chin.

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Instead, he look like a Moby.
Went to prison.

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Yeah, prison mobile person
wealthy from Denmark, but he

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seems to have a fun personality,
good filmmaking, great voice,

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pretty good, presence on screen,
likable screen presents.

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So we give it to him, I’m
already like all right, what’s

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this motherfucker up to?
Why does he give a fuck about

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dog?
Hummers fold?

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Yeah and it right away they get
into the circumstances

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surrounding dog, Hamish old.
And basically what happens is,

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Is he takes over as Secretary
General of the UN in 1953 and

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this is around the time when all
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like especially England were
just kind of losing control of

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the their colonies.
Right.

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I think we can.
You got liberated and 40s or

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50s?
Jamaica.

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Around that time.
Yeah, they were all Britain was

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losing a lot of the big they
still had Rhodesia right.

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Yeah, that I mean I’m they still
had some but no definitely, it’s

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around that time and he takes
over as Secretary General of the

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UN and immediately decides that
look, we’re going to start being

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good to Africa.
You’re not, you’re not going to

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go in and just fucking raid,
Africa of all its resources for

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your own National interest,
right?

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And those Old Colonial Powers
were Like yeah, we are watch us,

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exactly.
Yeah, to say that we’re not

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going to be major players in
Africa or control, who gets to

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what kind of position is just
not, that’s not the thing,

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buddy, not the thing, right?
How much should also funny,

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funny enough, he was awarded a
posthumous Nobel Peace Prize,

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that makes sense and he was the
youngest ever.

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Un Secretary General of 47 at
that time.

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So how much old is hangin out in
Africa?

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Because the Congo is on the news
every night.

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These world leaders are not
happy, the US My happy Britain

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is not happy.
They are not happy with how

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things are going in the Congo,
right?

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They are rip shit and they’re
rich at Hamish old, because

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there are some military action
in un, un soldiers, got killed.

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Well, what, what’s happening in
at the time?

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Is there is this area that had
basically broken away from the

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Congo?
Yes, called katanga and katanga

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or Qatar Angela, I think it was
katanga and the Congo are

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basically at War and dog Hamish
old to end this war.

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Basically sends un troops in
basically to fight against the

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katanga separatists.
What he may or may not have

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known.
Is that a Belgian Oil Company

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basically installed that
government in katanga?

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For the sole purpose of them,
separating from the Congo.

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So then that oil company could
go in and take the oil in that

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area and he sent doc Hummer
Schultz ends in un troops to try

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and break up that conflict and
he fucking losses.

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Like you said this is baby un so
he sends them in and we fucking

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lose and that’s what he’s flying
to Zambia.

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That’s where he was flying to
when he crashed.

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Right.
So I’m going to hold had made

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four separate trips to Congo,
but everyone, yeah.

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Even the Soviet Union was pissed
with how he was doing in the

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Congo.
So they did announced his

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decision to send the UN
emergency force in to keep the

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peace.
They demanded his resignation in

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the replacement of the office of
Secretary General.

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By three-man directorate with a
built-in Vito.

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And so basically they were like
he his actions were so

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disappointing to everyone that
they wanted to do away with his

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whole job.
That’s how much he was fucking

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up in these peoples opinions.
And B.

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So basically the Soviets
consider that his efforts of

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decolonization had not been
sufficient un.

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I mean, sorry, the UK?
And the US were pissed, because

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there’s too much decolonization,
right?

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So he’s making everyone angry.
Yes, and am Belgian oil company.

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That all comes to a head when he
makes this flight.

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He’s on his way to try and
negotiate peace.

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Yes, in this conflict and it
doesn’t go well his plane

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crashes.
And he dies fucking died.

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Laura.
Yep.

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So he had all but one of the 16
passengers and that other one

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died a few days later from
injuries and there was no real

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line of succession within the
succession within the UN as to,

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who would be take over his role
in the security Council and a

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vote on somebody.
I guess it was just so everyone,

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you interact with me was like,
oh my God, who would have

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thought this would have ever
happened, right?

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And he was a eight miles from
the airport.

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Crash was eight miles from the
airport and I know I have it in

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the notes later, but one of the
weird details about this is that

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it took them 15 hours to find
the crash site even though it

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was eight miles from the
airport.

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And there was a massive fire in
the jungle, I think you’d be

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able to spot that.
So one of the, one of the first

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people we meet besides, the
filmmaker in this is your on

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Bjork doll.
Yes.

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So it’s mads and mods put ogre
mods.

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Proven bro, guy isn’t a cab with
this old man, nearly, who the

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fuck is this old man?
Turns out it’s you’re on board

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all for Bjork doll and he has
pictures of the crash site, not

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because he’s a pervert,
whatever?

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Right?
Yeah, he doesn’t jerk off to

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him.
Why are you being that way?

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And basically, his father was a
diplomat, Who worked for the UN

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and his father.
At one point, gives him this

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metal plate.
And says, this is from dog,

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Hamish olds, plain.
Keep it, maybe maybe take it,

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just take it with, you carry it
with you, throughout your entire

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life.
Make it the basis of the next

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few Decades of your life and it
looks like it’s got bullet holes

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in it.
Yeah.

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And that becomes way more
important later.

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They seem reticent to say bullet
holes.

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Yeah, it’s like they have these
weird holes in it and I’m like

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Like well, you know what?
I’m I thought if I can imagine

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there from that was, if you were
shot down by rounds fired from a

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plane, those are gonna be big
rounds.

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Mmm.
Like, I don’t think a planes

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like the guns on a plane.
Got 220 to stretch him.

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So I did the bullet holes did
seem small but I don’t.

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I’m no ballista, isn’t it?
Yeah, yeah, you know, despite my

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Affinity affinity for cap guns,
you know, I don’t really know

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that much about that but I
thought it was bizarre.

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I’m reticent to say bullet
holes, immediately, when I would

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have immediately, any kind of
holes in metal like that?

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I just think.
Oh, it looks like it was.

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Shut up a big guns, you know.
Yeah, that bulldoze immediately

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anywho they tracked on this
sounds racist, but it’s

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important.
They tracked on the black

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Witnesses from that, right?
That gives it as you can

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imagine.
In 1961 authorities did not take

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the word of the black Witnesses.
Who all saw this crash happen,

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hmm?
If they wrote them down at all,

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they did not.
Not take it seriously.

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Yes.
So you’re on actually tracks

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down all of the witnesses to
this because here’s the thing

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most of them just still live in
the area.

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Hmm and everyone reports that
right before the crash all the

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lights went out at the airport.
Yes that is that is definitely

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an odd fact that everyone and no
one in knowing that they’re

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talking to is unsure of what
they’re remembering or seems to

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have any sort of confusion about
what, their don’t know.

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Peace.
Fucking plane crash I’ve ever

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seen.
It’s a plane crash in plane.

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Crash in person.
I have not know either.

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It’s very unusual.
Yeah, I feel like I would

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definitely remember strange
experiences in life.

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Both of us combined millions of
weirdo ones and but no, not

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that, yeah, they memorable.
They all report.

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That the lights went out, they
all report seeing a huge fire

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except one person who is the air
traffic controller, who was on

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duty that night and where Oddly,
he destroyed his notes from that

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day the following day and then
had to rewrite them and then

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they included no mention of is a
fire or a crash.

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Yeah.
So it’s at that point, it’s his

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word against everyone in the
vicinity who all saw those

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lights go out and saw that
crash, mmm.

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And they also reported here in
something else.

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Strange they reported hearing
the sound of not only another

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plane, but Other plane was
shooting at the plane that ended

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up crashing.
Yeah, crazy.

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We’re at how things sound like,
things like a plane shooting

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another plane, which I’ve never
heard imagine would be very

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distinct in terms of what we
know for external facts in this

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situation.
A 1962, Rhodesian inquiry

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concluded that the pilot was an
error in to blame.

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Well, later un investigation
could not determine the cause of

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the crash, right?
And CIA, I blame the KGB.

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Yeah I do like they love to do.
Yeah to do the CIA comes up a

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lot in this?
Yeah.

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A whole lot the CIA and British
intelligence, yes.

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Which if we’re talking people
engines, yeah, for talking

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people who would be mad about
the colonial Powers, losing

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their power.
And there you go.

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It’s funny.
It’s like high-powered us

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intelligence people in
government, the British Belgian,

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you think?
Talk about child rape.

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Exactly.
I know.

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But it’s Africa crazy.
Start a child porn ring.

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Like no real Illuminati.
There are traffic and kids and

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drinking their blood and but no,
no.

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So this is horrible as well and
it actually happens for sure for

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definites.
So yeah.

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The day after the crash former
US President Harry Truman

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commented that Hamish old was on
the point of getting something

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done when they killed him.
Notice that I said when they

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killed him.
Yeah, that’ll Harry very subtle.

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Oh thud.
Oh yeah, once once Harry Truman

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had nuclear, once he had nuclear
weapons, he swung his dick

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around shit.
Dude, he was like, I’ll say

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whatever the fuck I want pal.
The most interesting interview

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in this documentary.
I would argue, is Charles

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Southall like this, who was a
former NSA agent and he claims

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that.
At one point, he gets a phone

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call and someone’s like you got
to come to the office.

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Yes, this is gonna be cool and
he gets to the office and they

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play him a recording of what he
said.

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Everyone in the room was able to
identify as this Belgian

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mercenary pilot that they all
knew.

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As The Lone Ranger, write that
name down everyone listening to

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this.
Hmm, shooting down a plane

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somewhere in Africa and the
person who called him in when he

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plays the Orton goes, this is
history and it’s only 7 Minutes

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old and what he came to find out
about that.

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Recording was, it was a
recording of someone shooting

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down dog, huh, Marshalls plane
which is pretty crazy.

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That is a, it’s a wild
allegation and I would argue

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that in this documentary, they
do a decent job of kind of

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confirming that that probably
happened.

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Yes, it is a braised.
In crime to think that someone

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would middle of the day, just
flying by another plane and

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shoot at it, killing 16 people
on board, right?

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When full view of witnesses,
eight miles from an airport.

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Yeah.
But the middle of nowhere

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necessarily but it’s in Africa,
it is to I’m saying is from up

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but it’s not like we’re it’s
like you know where where

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hundreds of miles from an
airport or something weird.

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Like no one lives around here,
no Witnesses.

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Yeah, so Witnesses, someone
survive for a couple of days.

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They shot down in broad daylight
praising praising it bold as

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brass, these people bowed his
breast.

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So yes, definitely.
That Lone Ranger thing comes up.

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This got me the chills the
playing card playing card.

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One of the crazy things about
the the pictures of dog, Hamish,

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olds body.
There are no pictures of his

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body as it appeared when he was
found, there are only pictures

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of his body after Had been moved
to a stretcher.

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Which that’s weird.
Yes.

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And then all the bodies around
him are like charred, they are

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completely burned and he is not,
you can make out his face.

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You can still see his shirt is
still mostly white.

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It’s true, but he’s also got an
Ace of Spades like tucked into

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the collar of his shirt, my eyes
bulged.

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Out of my head when I saw that,
I was like, I cannot fucking

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believe it.
This is so staged.

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It’s like seeing a serial killer
would do.

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It’s a mafia fucking hit.
It’s just, this is what I was.

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One of the things we talked
about you like for this

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documentary or this conspiracy
theory, you don’t really have to

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reach.
I mean it’s right at your little

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finger tips.
I mean it’s these are not like,

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oh well maybe the body was in
this position which could have

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been this.
It’s like the body was propped

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up with a fucking playing card
in his car.

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Are right and everyone else was
in.

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There’s a photo of it burned to
the point of not being

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recognizable, that does not end.
The fact, this is the point in

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the documentary where they bring
up that, it took 15 hours to

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locate the crash site.
The crash site of the fucking

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Secretary, General of the UN, it
took 15 hours to get eight miles

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from the airport where there is
a huge fire.

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Like, Like the air traffic
controller said he didn’t see a

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fire.
All the bodies are burned to a

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crisp at this crash site.
How would you not in again?

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We ran Africa, like, in this,
it’s 1960s, Africa.

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Yeah.
So there weren’t a lot of old

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rock developed.
Yeah, there’s not a lot of

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obstructions between that line
of sight.

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There’s not a lot of gigantic
fires going on.

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No, it seemed that it was, it’s
just so, Obvious.

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It’s just you would need to in
order to not see this.

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You would be need to have been
threatened not to or been paid

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off, not to write.
It needs to be son’s best

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interest for you to look at this
case and not see that it’s a,

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it’s a manufactured death, it’s
a murder.

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It’s an assassination.
And that that air traffic,

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controller destroying his notes.
The next day that that’s pretty

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fucking damning and he’s on his
way to negotiate a ceasefire,

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right?
Very specific purpose in mind.

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Yeah, a ceasefire that That the
world’s superpowers did not

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want.
Mmm, it’s a good documentary

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turning.
Yeah.

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At one point, the UN reopens the
case after hearing Charles South

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all’s comments.
Mmm.

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And they actually reach out to
the NSA and they’re like, hey,

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we need any recordings.
You got from this night in 1961

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and the NSA and the United
States government, write back

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and say The information you
requested is classified, which

439
00:25:28,300 –> 00:25:32,800
means, yes, what you’re asking
for exists, but we cannot give

440
00:25:32,800 –> 00:25:37,400
it to you for national security
reasons and they’re asking for

441
00:25:37,600 –> 00:25:42,500
that recording of This Belgian.
Mercenary pilot shooting down

442
00:25:42,500 –> 00:25:46,300
dog, Hamra Shields plane.
And we the United States were

443
00:25:46,308 –> 00:25:48,700
like sorry classified, can’t do
it.

444
00:25:48,800 –> 00:25:52,000
What gets me at the end of the
day with the US and the issue of

445
00:25:52,000 –> 00:25:56,600
security is like, it’s Elise
twisted and sick because you can

446
00:25:56,600 –> 00:26:00,700
logically say it is in the u.s.
security interest to look like

447
00:26:00,700 –> 00:26:03,300
we are good and do no bad,
right?

448
00:26:03,400 –> 00:26:05,700
I understand that I’m like
logically.

449
00:26:05,800 –> 00:26:08,600
Yes, I understand why that makes
sense.

450
00:26:08,700 –> 00:26:12,300
Even though it’s divorced from
reality and fucked up and not

451
00:26:12,300 –> 00:26:14,000
something we should aspire to
continue.

452
00:26:14,300 –> 00:26:16,400
Yeah.
But it’s like, oh, you can say

453
00:26:16,400 –> 00:26:20,900
fucking anything is for your
security like so, then you’ve no

454
00:26:20,900 –> 00:26:23,700
one will ever be able to request
any information that would ever

455
00:26:23,700 –> 00:26:25,700
imply that.
Us has ever made a mistake in

456
00:26:25,700 –> 00:26:29,000
anything.
Yeah, I’m starting to feel like

457
00:26:29,100 –> 00:26:33,900
part of the reason, the UN
exists is because of us like the

458
00:26:33,900 –> 00:26:36,700
world wanted a little bit of
protection from us.

459
00:26:36,700 –> 00:26:39,300
Also, mmm.
And we’re attempting to do the

460
00:26:39,300 –> 00:26:42,800
even though, even though we were
integral in launching it.

461
00:26:42,800 –> 00:26:45,400
Yeah.
That doesn’t mean the president

462
00:26:45,400 –> 00:26:47,700
at the time.
Wasn’t like we’re getting out of

463
00:26:47,700 –> 00:26:50,400
control.
Yeah, I got to help put

464
00:26:50,400 –> 00:26:52,500
something in place before.
I’m out of office.

465
00:26:52,500 –> 00:26:57,100
Safety on this pistol, baby.
Yeah okay so no one wants to

466
00:26:57,100 –> 00:26:58,700
give up the truth when it comes
to this.

467
00:26:58,700 –> 00:27:00,700
No one officially wants to talk
about anything.

468
00:27:00,700 –> 00:27:05,700
It seems like everything is you
know just hinting at data

469
00:27:05,700 –> 00:27:12,400
beforehand, right?
And that’s when we get to the

470
00:27:12,400 –> 00:27:17,000
craziest aspect of this story,
it’s called the South African

471
00:27:17,000 –> 00:27:20,500
Institute for maritime research
cyma.

472
00:27:20,600 –> 00:27:23,000
Did you want first time?
Alzheimer’s, do you want

473
00:27:23,000 –> 00:27:26,300
first-timer?
I swear, I found this fucking

474
00:27:26,300 –> 00:27:28,300
fascinating.
Yeah.

475
00:27:29,300 –> 00:27:36,800
When back, when the apartheid
regime in South Africa, shortly

476
00:27:36,800 –> 00:27:42,200
after they lost power, there was
this thing called The Truth and

477
00:27:42,200 –> 00:27:44,900
Reconciliation Commission which
I’ve heard it before.

478
00:27:44,900 –> 00:27:46,400
You know, when you’re sitting
South African history of the

479
00:27:46,400 –> 00:27:48,300
talk about it with yeah.
After yeah.

480
00:27:48,300 –> 00:27:54,000
But them and it was meant to
investigate and discuss.

481
00:27:54,200 –> 00:27:59,500
The crimes of the apartheid
regime and as it was closing

482
00:27:59,500 –> 00:28:05,900
down in 1998, they there at this
press conference and Desmond

483
00:28:05,900 –> 00:28:12,000
Tutu who is a really
well-respected leader on the

484
00:28:12,000 –> 00:28:16,600
world stage, he’s at this press
conference and he mentions

485
00:28:16,600 –> 00:28:21,000
finding documents tying, the
South African Institute for

486
00:28:21,000 –> 00:28:24,000
maritime research to the
sabotage.

487
00:28:24,200 –> 00:28:29,600
Of the dag hammarskjöld plane
and British intelligence and CIA

488
00:28:29,600 –> 00:28:31,600
are also mentioned in the
documents.

489
00:28:31,900 –> 00:28:37,000
We claimed that it was just cold
war-era misinformation, but it

490
00:28:37,000 –> 00:28:39,200
mentions this guy named Keith
Maxwell.

491
00:28:39,300 –> 00:28:42,400
Who is the Commodore?
The super villain of the piece?

492
00:28:42,600 –> 00:28:48,600
Yeah and for most of this
documentary I could not tell if

493
00:28:48,600 –> 00:28:54,500
this guy was just a crazy person
or if he was an evil person, I

494
00:28:54,500 –> 00:28:56,900
want medieval immediately.
I was like damn these

495
00:28:56,900 –> 00:29:02,700
motherfuckers evil like just I
landed on evil eventually but it

496
00:29:02,700 –> 00:29:06,600
first I feel like they do a
pretty good job making it not

497
00:29:06,600 –> 00:29:10,300
real clear as to whether he’s
telling the truth about what

498
00:29:10,300 –> 00:29:14,200
he’s saying.
Yeah and we’ll just talk about

499
00:29:14,300 –> 00:29:19,100
Keith Maxwell he’s the Commodore
of the am I going to have to say

500
00:29:19,100 –> 00:29:20,600
this?
Let’s just call it PSI.

501
00:29:20,600 –> 00:29:22,700
Mar everyone get it in your
head.

502
00:29:22,700 –> 00:29:27,000
Now South African Institute for
maritime research funds like

503
00:29:27,000 –> 00:29:30,200
they research dolphins.
Not true, right?

504
00:29:30,300 –> 00:29:35,300
They do not know one guy claims
that he was running human

505
00:29:35,300 –> 00:29:40,900
experiments on black women.
Keith Maxwell was his ex-wife,

506
00:29:41,200 –> 00:29:44,000
says, he liked to run mental
experiments on people without

507
00:29:44,000 –> 00:29:47,800
the knowledge and that he set up
fake clinics in black

508
00:29:47,800 –> 00:29:50,600
neighborhoods to conduct these
experiments.

509
00:29:50,800 –> 00:29:54,000
And it seems like that was true
and give false injections.

510
00:29:54,100 –> 00:29:55,600
And bullshit.
Right?

511
00:29:56,300 –> 00:29:58,300
Yeah.
And it yeah.

512
00:29:58,300 –> 00:30:03,400
He was, this was, you know,
apartheid are well, we’re these

513
00:30:03,400 –> 00:30:07,200
in South Africa.
Yes, those the clinics.

514
00:30:07,300 –> 00:30:09,600
Yeah, yes, yeah, that’s what
they’re saying in the

515
00:30:09,600 –> 00:30:12,200
Township’s.
So, yeah, he’s set up these

516
00:30:12,200 –> 00:30:14,800
clinics.
He told some people at these

517
00:30:14,800 –> 00:30:18,500
clinics, that he was a mercenary
who worked in the Congo.

518
00:30:19,000 –> 00:30:21,900
Funny, weird, weird.
That’s not something you hear

519
00:30:21,900 –> 00:30:23,400
every day.
Yeah.

520
00:30:23,500 –> 00:30:27,500
So The documents that they
produce at this Truth and

521
00:30:27,500 –> 00:30:31,900
Reconciliation press conference.
Talk about something called

522
00:30:32,000 –> 00:30:35,600
operation Celeste or as the
filmmaker says it operations,

523
00:30:35,600 –> 00:30:39,600
Celesta which I don’t know –
right.

524
00:30:39,700 –> 00:30:43,700
But that’s the alleged code name
for the operation to kill, dog.

525
00:30:43,700 –> 00:30:49,400
Hamish old and mads decides who
mads is the filmmaker.

526
00:30:50,200 –> 00:30:54,000
He decides to try and find a
bunch of people who are named,

527
00:30:54,100 –> 00:30:57,600
In these documents, which is
crazy to me, like we’re talking

528
00:30:57,600 –> 00:31:01,900
about the murder of the
Secretary General of the UN and

529
00:31:01,900 –> 00:31:04,900
you’re like, I better go
snooping around, I better go.

530
00:31:04,900 –> 00:31:06,900
I bet I’ll show up at his place
and he’ll want to talk

531
00:31:06,900 –> 00:31:09,600
imediately, right?
The higher, the waiting for you

532
00:31:09,900 –> 00:31:12,000
and it’s weird.
Sometimes people do that

533
00:31:12,000 –> 00:31:13,500
sometimes depending on how old
they are.

534
00:31:13,700 –> 00:31:15,700
Yeah.
If you’re like on death’s door.

535
00:31:15,700 –> 00:31:17,100
Yeah.
Maybe you want to talk about it.

536
00:31:17,100 –> 00:31:18,600
Like sure.
I got nothing else to do.

537
00:31:18,600 –> 00:31:20,900
I’m gonna die in a couple hours.
Clean my conscience.

538
00:31:21,000 –> 00:31:24,000
He does find it dude.
Yeah, he finds a bunch of

539
00:31:24,200 –> 00:31:26,100
People, he finds one guy named
dr.

540
00:31:26,100 –> 00:31:30,000
Claude Newberry.
And he confirms that he knew

541
00:31:30,000 –> 00:31:34,500
Keith Maxwell, and that Maxwell
tried to recruit him into syme.

542
00:31:34,500 –> 00:31:38,100
Are this is where a hard left
turn happens.

543
00:31:38,500 –> 00:31:42,400
Yeah, because up to this point,
the documentary is about the

544
00:31:42,400 –> 00:31:44,800
death of, dog, Hamish, old,
uh-huh.

545
00:31:45,100 –> 00:31:48,400
And all of a sudden and you
like, assassination, planes

546
00:31:48,400 –> 00:31:50,900
corruption, Africa, government,
intervention, military stuff.

547
00:31:50,900 –> 00:31:53,900
You’re like, okay, all this is
par for the course I came to

548
00:31:54,100 –> 00:31:55,300
Spect this.
Not this.

549
00:31:55,600 –> 00:31:58,900
Yeah, hard left.
Turn Maxwell, tells him.

550
00:31:59,000 –> 00:32:04,600
AIDS is biological warfare and
not only that, but Keith Maxwell

551
00:32:04,600 –> 00:32:07,500
says, he is researching ways to
kill.

552
00:32:07,500 –> 00:32:12,500
Black people using AIDS as a
weapon and I did not see that

553
00:32:12,500 –> 00:32:13,600
coming.
Yeah.

554
00:32:13,600 –> 00:32:16,000
Yikes.
This is the Mobile interior just

555
00:32:16,100 –> 00:32:18,900
oh, we’re going here now.
Holy Moses.

556
00:32:19,300 –> 00:32:23,900
So that’s when you start to be
like it’s Sky a mental issue.

557
00:32:24,100 –> 00:32:27,300
Mental case is this, where you
start to think is this guy a bit

558
00:32:27,300 –> 00:32:30,300
psycho?
Because when reviewing the film

559
00:32:30,300 –> 00:32:32,600
I believe there is a doctor
who’s like, oh, it would have

560
00:32:32,600 –> 00:32:36,500
been impossible to, you know,
weaponize AIDS and that passion.

561
00:32:36,500 –> 00:32:39,200
At that time.
I don’t know how he can say that

562
00:32:39,200 –> 00:32:42,300
conclusively.
Yeah, tell it to Suge Knight.

563
00:32:42,300 –> 00:32:44,900
Yeah.
He talked about giving people

564
00:32:44,900 –> 00:32:48,000
AIDS needle injection.
Zion the New York Times.

565
00:32:48,000 –> 00:32:51,600
Dr. Salim Abdul.
Karim claimed in article that a

566
00:32:51,600 –> 00:32:54,000
spread of HIV virus would not
have been technically feasible.

567
00:32:54,100 –> 00:32:56,200
People at the time.
So they said that it’s a

568
00:32:56,208 –> 00:33:02,200
conspiracy theory and yeah yeah
but also that’s I think

569
00:33:02,200 –> 00:33:07,800
something people need to realize
about like the big media in this

570
00:33:07,800 –> 00:33:10,700
country.
The big media in this country is

571
00:33:10,700 –> 00:33:13,000
basically State media.
Yes.

572
00:33:13,000 –> 00:33:16,800
And there are some things we’re
just all like, everyone’s just

573
00:33:16,800 –> 00:33:20,800
always going to be United on.
And when I say that, I mean the

574
00:33:20,800 –> 00:33:24,600
big media Outlets because like,
at the To the day.

575
00:33:24,600 –> 00:33:28,300
That’s our that’s we have the
media that we make fun of like

576
00:33:28,300 –> 00:33:31,800
North Korea.
For having like we cover up the

577
00:33:31,800 –> 00:33:34,400
same amount of shit.
We lie about things, we lie to

578
00:33:34,400 –> 00:33:38,200
our people.
And so I’m not that sold.

579
00:33:38,200 –> 00:33:41,700
Just because the New York Times
said it’s a conspiracy theory.

580
00:33:41,700 –> 00:33:44,900
No, no we will the thing that
kind of rocks that is this is

581
00:33:44,900 –> 00:33:46,500
just off.
Wikipedia, you can check this

582
00:33:46,500 –> 00:33:49,500
out but despite previous reports
during the South African

583
00:33:49,500 –> 00:33:52,800
government trial of dr.
A, which are Bassin head of the

584
00:33:52,808 –> 00:33:55,600
South African Defence.
Fourth secret German biological

585
00:33:55,600 –> 00:34:00,200
warfare project Coast which
revealed Bassin weaponization of

586
00:34:00,200 –> 00:34:03,300
HIV by freeze-drying.
Yes.

587
00:34:03,300 –> 00:34:08,600
See, so somebody done it girl
like that and stick it in your

588
00:34:08,600 –> 00:34:11,500
syringe and then put it in your
arm and then have a deal.

589
00:34:12,199 –> 00:34:14,300
These can be heroin with a come
on.

590
00:34:14,400 –> 00:34:17,900
Yeah, these gave me the good
stuff and like everything we

591
00:34:17,900 –> 00:34:21,600
know about how AIDS spread was
that it was like dirty needles

592
00:34:21,600 –> 00:34:23,900
and shit, right?
So obviously you can

593
00:34:24,100 –> 00:34:25,800
Institutions.
Yeah, yeah.

594
00:34:25,800 –> 00:34:28,400
I don’t know why they don’t
think that just seems absurd to

595
00:34:28,400 –> 00:34:29,400
me.
I’m not so sure.

596
00:34:29,699 –> 00:34:33,500
So my favorite this is really,
this is a great like Michael

597
00:34:33,500 –> 00:34:37,000
Moore style confrontation
without being necessarily soak.

598
00:34:37,000 –> 00:34:39,699
You know, intense but I do love
it was as good as

599
00:34:39,699 –> 00:34:41,100
confrontations.
You see him Michael Moore

600
00:34:41,100 –> 00:34:42,100
movies.
Yeah.

601
00:34:42,199 –> 00:34:46,900
So they find this dude, they
find this guy renege or renege

602
00:34:46,900 –> 00:34:51,699
or and they go to his fuckin
house, right?

603
00:34:51,699 –> 00:34:53,900
They cut his fucking house and
Renee look.

604
00:34:54,000 –> 00:34:56,800
That’s Dopey as balls.
He looks like he’s about to go

605
00:34:56,800 –> 00:35:01,100
mow the lawn and he looks like
all confusing to shovel and the

606
00:35:01,100 –> 00:35:04,900
mads just like Bots out this
document.

607
00:35:04,900 –> 00:35:08,300
And he’s like, hey, this is a
sign, our document, what’s that?

608
00:35:08,400 –> 00:35:10,900
It’s a signature that says
renege or what do you think

609
00:35:10,900 –> 00:35:13,200
about that?
And what does he say in

610
00:35:13,200 –> 00:35:17,700
response?
Its identity theft, okay.

611
00:35:17,900 –> 00:35:20,100
He’s like, yeah, it’s my
signature and they’re like,

612
00:35:20,100 –> 00:35:23,500
well, how did it get on there?
And he goes, you figure it out.

613
00:35:25,000 –> 00:35:28,700
Like I just want to wear like a
character.

614
00:35:28,700 –> 00:35:31,500
Just gets a call and they’re
like waiting bodies in my

615
00:35:31,500 –> 00:35:33,000
crawlspace.
He figured out here.

616
00:35:34,100 –> 00:35:42,900
Yeah, I pay your salaries pigs.
Yeah, he’s really the lippett.

617
00:35:42,900 –> 00:35:47,800
Yeah, he’s really standoffish
about all this and then he it

618
00:35:47,800 –> 00:35:51,800
finally circles around to him
claiming he took improv classes

619
00:35:52,300 –> 00:35:55,600
with Keith Maxwell.
It’s like, dude, I would admit

620
00:35:55,600 –> 00:35:58,900
to being in syme.
Our first before I’d admit to

621
00:35:58,900 –> 00:36:02,500
those improv classes.
My God, I just had seen it by

622
00:36:02,500 –> 00:36:06,500
the guy either, just like so.
So your victim of identity theft

623
00:36:06,500 –> 00:36:09,600
and he’s like, yeah, yeah, it’s
really bad to like, okay, so um,

624
00:36:10,000 –> 00:36:14,700
so this Identity Thief have they
used your, your identity for,

625
00:36:14,700 –> 00:36:20,900
you know, fraudulent Banking and
other Financial things, personal

626
00:36:20,900 –> 00:36:23,600
things voti, they like that.
He’s like, oh no, just this.

627
00:36:24,100 –> 00:36:26,700
Yeah, so just put my name on a
sign.

628
00:36:26,700 –> 00:36:30,900
Mar document from the 90s.
Whenever this happened, my name

629
00:36:30,900 –> 00:36:34,200
in a fake medical food in the
tried, to weaponize HIV.

630
00:36:34,400 –> 00:36:36,000
Yep.
Happens to the best of us all

631
00:36:36,000 –> 00:36:37,100
the time.
They just going through your

632
00:36:37,100 –> 00:36:38,100
trash.
So yeah.

633
00:36:38,100 –> 00:36:39,800
So they’re asking they’re like
so how do you know this student?

634
00:36:39,800 –> 00:36:42,700
He’s like, well, I think we do,
we did theater theater.

635
00:36:42,700 –> 00:36:45,700
We took classes, what kind of
class is theater?

636
00:36:46,300 –> 00:36:48,600
Drama wasn’t like heavy stuff
like shit pretty.

637
00:36:48,800 –> 00:36:53,700
But no no no, what’s it improv?
Yeah, yeah, yeah improvisation.

638
00:36:54,000 –> 00:36:59,600
Looks like you’re doing some
improv right now.

639
00:36:59,600 –> 00:37:02,100
Pal zip steps up.
Its keep thanks, but what is

640
00:37:02,100 –> 00:37:04,600
that thing?
They clapping and whatever games

641
00:37:04,600 –> 00:37:07,200
act like a piece of bacon.
Oh my God, he threw him the ball

642
00:37:07,200 –> 00:37:11,100
or whatever.
They also talked to a guy named

643
00:37:11,100 –> 00:37:15,600
T&E grown walled who becomes
really important later.

644
00:37:16,000 –> 00:37:19,800
So remember that name that I
just pronounced incorrectly, he

645
00:37:19,800 –> 00:37:23,800
met Keith Maxwell says, Maxwell
offered him weapons.

646
00:37:23,900 –> 00:37:28,300
And money to Armed white people
to fight black people.

647
00:37:28,400 –> 00:37:32,300
But he didn’t take that money
because he thought, Keith

648
00:37:32,300 –> 00:37:36,600
Maxwell was funded by MI6.
So apparently it’s not that he

649
00:37:36,600 –> 00:37:39,300
didn’t want money to Armed,
white people, to fight black

650
00:37:39,300 –> 00:37:41,200
people.
He just didn’t want it coming

651
00:37:41,200 –> 00:37:44,000
from the British government,
real stand-up guy.

652
00:37:44,100 –> 00:37:49,200
Wow, but he also says he never
heard of syme are and that the

653
00:37:49,200 –> 00:37:53,400
documents might be fake.
Mmm.

654
00:37:53,600 –> 00:37:56,700
Which That’s that is always
possible.

655
00:37:56,800 –> 00:37:59,200
Like Russia document specialist
though.

656
00:37:59,500 –> 00:38:04,500
Russia did get up to a lot of
document faking during the Cold

657
00:38:04,500 –> 00:38:05,600
War.
Oh sure.

658
00:38:05,600 –> 00:38:09,300
They did right.
But because someone’s never

659
00:38:09,300 –> 00:38:11,600
heard of I don’t like when
people say because they’re not

660
00:38:11,600 –> 00:38:14,800
directly aware of something that
it can exist.

661
00:38:14,800 –> 00:38:17,700
I don’t really like that as an
explanation offhand.

662
00:38:17,700 –> 00:38:21,800
I just don’t think it really
holds water because people are

663
00:38:22,300 –> 00:38:24,000
actually given access to things
all the time.

664
00:38:24,100 –> 00:38:26,900
That they’re in a need-to-know,
sort of scenario, I guess.

665
00:38:27,200 –> 00:38:30,500
But now, yeah, so that didn’t
totally take me out of the game.

666
00:38:30,500 –> 00:38:32,300
Just him saying it now.
Not so much.

667
00:38:32,300 –> 00:38:34,300
Yeah, plus he loves to fight
black people.

668
00:38:34,500 –> 00:38:37,200
Yeah, yeah.
Really, clearly next seem to be

669
00:38:37,200 –> 00:38:41,500
the subjects, it seems like
that’s, that’s a quirk of his so

670
00:38:41,500 –> 00:38:43,200
is integrity than me, it’s not
Sky High.

671
00:38:43,800 –> 00:38:49,200
They bring up a interesting
cable that Ed Guion.

672
00:38:49,200 –> 00:38:53,300
Who was ambassador to the Congo,
sent a cable to the US State

673
00:38:53,300 –> 00:38:58,500
Department, Saying Hamish olds
plane might have been shot down

674
00:38:58,700 –> 00:39:03,400
by say it with us.
America, a Belgian mercenary.

675
00:39:03,600 –> 00:39:08,300
And this time he named the guy.
His name was Vaughn Reese again.

676
00:39:08,500 –> 00:39:11,200
Ms, about something like that.
Isn’t it funny?

677
00:39:11,200 –> 00:39:15,900
That two separate sources both
named a Belgian mercenary or a

678
00:39:15,900 –> 00:39:18,800
Belgian right as the one to do
it.

679
00:39:18,800 –> 00:39:20,200
I know you’re saying we’re in
that area.

680
00:39:20,200 –> 00:39:23,500
There’s belgians all about but I
think that is they’re not saying

681
00:39:23,500 –> 00:39:25,400
it was so One.
They’re not saying it was a

682
00:39:25,400 –> 00:39:28,700
British person, they’re not
saying it was a member of the

683
00:39:29,400 –> 00:39:32,500
sorry, the Congo and the what is
the other place?

684
00:39:33,200 –> 00:39:35,100
I’m terrible.
The Breakaway section.

685
00:39:35,100 –> 00:39:37,500
Kanga.
Oh God, Tonga guitar.

686
00:39:37,500 –> 00:39:40,200
Yeah, Congo.
And Kanga now katanga, I’m

687
00:39:40,200 –> 00:39:42,000
sorry.
That sounded disrespectful.

688
00:39:42,200 –> 00:39:44,900
It’s your country.
So no, it wasn’t someone from

689
00:39:44,900 –> 00:39:45,800
katanga.
It.

690
00:39:45,800 –> 00:39:49,200
Wasn’t someone from the Congo.
It wasn’t someone from the

691
00:39:49,200 –> 00:39:52,200
British or the Americans.
It was a Belgian, right?

692
00:39:52,300 –> 00:39:55,200
And say that.
So I think that’s kind They also

693
00:39:55,200 –> 00:39:57,300
interview a guy named Pierre
coppins.

694
00:39:57,300 –> 00:39:59,500
Hmm.
Who was a former Belgian

695
00:39:59,500 –> 00:40:01,600
paratrooper?
I think he’s still belching.

696
00:40:01,800 –> 00:40:04,300
Yeah well no I don’t think he
is.

697
00:40:04,800 –> 00:40:07,300
I stand by it.
Prove I’m wrong.

698
00:40:09,000 –> 00:40:13,600
He says that Von Reese again
told him that he shot down.

699
00:40:13,600 –> 00:40:19,600
Hammer, Schultz plane reaches
Risa, Jim was Belgian and

700
00:40:19,600 –> 00:40:24,100
British as it turns out he flew
for the royal.

701
00:40:24,200 –> 00:40:28,700
Air force during World War Two,
his code name at the time, The

702
00:40:28,700 –> 00:40:35,000
Lone Ranger, which is how just
to if it rings a bell.

703
00:40:35,300 –> 00:40:38,400
That’s how Charles Southall that
NSA.

704
00:40:38,400 –> 00:40:41,000
Agent who claims?
He heard that recording, huh?

705
00:40:41,200 –> 00:40:45,000
That’s what he said, everyone in
the room identified.

706
00:40:45,400 –> 00:40:49,700
This person on the recording as
a Belgian mercenary that they

707
00:40:49,700 –> 00:40:53,800
all knew as The Lone Ranger.
Yeah.

708
00:40:53,800 –> 00:41:00,800
It’s Not like you know guy from
Texas named Tex or like you know

709
00:41:01,000 –> 00:41:03,100
some left-handed guy named
Lefty.

710
00:41:03,400 –> 00:41:08,100
It’s like very specific.
You’re a Belgian pilot named The

711
00:41:08,100 –> 00:41:09,300
Lone Ranger.
Yeah.

712
00:41:09,400 –> 00:41:11,900
Right.
Right on the money and they

713
00:41:11,900 –> 00:41:15,400
managed to track down his wife.
Yeah that’s like what do you

714
00:41:15,400 –> 00:41:17,000
think?
The wife’s going to tell you?

715
00:41:17,100 –> 00:41:19,900
I don’t know.
Like she just obviously she was

716
00:41:19,900 –> 00:41:22,000
like oh it’s just that hammer
shortening again.

717
00:41:22,200 –> 00:41:25,500
And then ran back in the house.
Yeah, they’re butter cookies

718
00:41:25,600 –> 00:41:29,100
sorry Danish.
Anyway yeah she doesn’t really

719
00:41:29,100 –> 00:41:32,600
give anything very telling, you
know what I’m saying.

720
00:41:32,600 –> 00:41:36,700
It’s not very it’s not great
evidence but yeah, I think

721
00:41:36,700 –> 00:41:39,800
that’s very compelling.
If multiple people are saying,

722
00:41:40,000 –> 00:41:42,900
hey and I’m they have no
interest in this and he actually

723
00:41:42,900 –> 00:41:45,700
could ruin their career, right?
But they’re not even saying

724
00:41:45,700 –> 00:41:47,800
necessarily when you say
conspiracy.

725
00:41:47,800 –> 00:41:49,600
They’re just like yeah that guy
was murdered.

726
00:41:49,700 –> 00:41:51,400
Yeah.
That’s not even like it’s bass

727
00:41:51,400 –> 00:41:54,900
multiple different.
I mean the groups the Here are

728
00:41:54,900 –> 00:41:56,700
pretty that the players are
pretty obvious.

729
00:41:56,700 –> 00:41:59,100
There’s not any players that you
have to guess at.

730
00:41:59,200 –> 00:42:02,600
No.
I mean but like, in some cases

731
00:42:02,600 –> 00:42:05,800
who like, before engaged in the
act of assassination.

732
00:42:05,800 –> 00:42:07,600
Let’s say that.
Oh, absolutely.

733
00:42:07,600 –> 00:42:10,300
But them have done assassination
before and did assassination

734
00:42:10,300 –> 00:42:12,200
softer.
So how are we supposed to know?

735
00:42:12,200 –> 00:42:14,500
I think of this time they
probably didn’t assassinate, at

736
00:42:14,500 –> 00:42:16,200
least somebody pulled the
trigger.

737
00:42:16,800 –> 00:42:20,000
Yeah, someone definitely killed
this guy.

738
00:42:20,900 –> 00:42:23,900
And there comes a point in this
documentary where it seems like

739
00:42:24,200 –> 00:42:26,600
all is lost because they can’t
get.

740
00:42:26,600 –> 00:42:28,500
Can they can’t they can’t
clinched it.

741
00:42:28,700 –> 00:42:33,200
Yeah we haven’t mentioned that
at one point they go out to the

742
00:42:33,200 –> 00:42:36,200
crash site which is it’s all
just buried there.

743
00:42:36,600 –> 00:42:40,900
Like it’s all still there and
they go out to dig it up and

744
00:42:40,900 –> 00:42:44,400
they get like a day into that.
And airport, security, shuts

745
00:42:44,400 –> 00:42:48,200
them down and won’t let them
continue.

746
00:42:48,500 –> 00:42:51,700
Yeah.
And then they find out that the,

747
00:42:51,700 –> 00:42:56,300
the panel that I forget his name
now goren.

748
00:42:56,600 –> 00:42:58,900
Yeah.
Goren has been carrying around

749
00:42:58,900 –> 00:43:03,400
with him, the, the UN reopens an
investigation into this and they

750
00:43:03,400 –> 00:43:06,700
request that panel and then they
send it to the FBI.

751
00:43:06,700 –> 00:43:10,500
And the FBI is like, this is on
off like a fucking Range, Rover

752
00:43:10,700 –> 00:43:15,600
or something.
Whoa, this isn’t even the thing.

753
00:43:16,900 –> 00:43:21,700
So, it seems like everything is
lost like, they’re not going to

754
00:43:21,707 –> 00:43:26,200
be able to finish this and then,
urine comes up with this list

755
00:43:26,200 –> 00:43:31,400
and it’s a list of dudes who
responded to an ad that Keith

756
00:43:31,400 –> 00:43:37,200
Maxwell put in a newspaper
looking for Mercenaries and they

757
00:43:37,200 –> 00:43:43,700
were responding to assign Mar Ed
basically and that’s when

758
00:43:43,900 –> 00:43:48,100
everything kind of turns around
because they start interviewing

759
00:43:48,100 –> 00:43:52,200
these dudes who the first person
at first they try to call people

760
00:43:52,200 –> 00:43:55,900
and everyone’s like I’m not And
to you but then for some reason

761
00:43:55,900 –> 00:43:58,200
you show up at the person’s
house with a camera in their

762
00:43:58,200 –> 00:44:00,000
face and they’re like, all
right, I’ll talk to you.

763
00:44:00,000 –> 00:44:02,800
It’s fine.
And the first guy they talked to

764
00:44:02,900 –> 00:44:05,300
could not look more like a
person that you would pay a

765
00:44:05,300 –> 00:44:07,900
hundred thousand dollars to to
helped topple a foreign

766
00:44:07,900 –> 00:44:11,300
government.
Like he has that Vibe and sure

767
00:44:11,300 –> 00:44:13,100
enough.
He goes in his closet and pulls

768
00:44:13,100 –> 00:44:16,100
out a fucking certificate from
syme are and he’s like, of

769
00:44:16,100 –> 00:44:18,500
course, it was real.
Hear it it like, because after

770
00:44:18,500 –> 00:44:21,900
this point they weren’t sure if
this was even a real thing.

771
00:44:21,900 –> 00:44:24,600
Yes, he was shady.
It was Jenny’s how Yeah, and

772
00:44:24,600 –> 00:44:27,600
then we have one white
supremacist like oh no no no

773
00:44:27,600 –> 00:44:29,700
those documents don’t look so
real.

774
00:44:30,700 –> 00:44:34,300
Exactly.
So they start trying to track

775
00:44:34,300 –> 00:44:40,400
down the people on this list and
one of the people they end up

776
00:44:40,400 –> 00:44:45,300
talking to, is this guy named
Alexander Jones and he is

777
00:44:45,300 –> 00:44:49,400
probably the most important
interview in this documentary.

778
00:44:49,500 –> 00:44:54,800
He’s got a lot to say he talks
to them in person and As syme

779
00:44:54,800 –> 00:45:01,000
are was a clandestine, mercenary
organization funded by Foreign

780
00:45:01,000 –> 00:45:03,400
governments.
And now I’m getting a pop up

781
00:45:03,400 –> 00:45:06,500
just as we say that too.
Because it’s like, man, South

782
00:45:06,500 –> 00:45:08,700
Africa, get it together.
Can’t you even find your own

783
00:45:08,700 –> 00:45:11,800
mercenary groups anymore?
Yeah, you’re exactly everything

784
00:45:11,800 –> 00:45:13,900
likes.
Come on, let’s get it together.

785
00:45:14,100 –> 00:45:18,000
And he said their role was to
destabilize countries and carry

786
00:45:18,000 –> 00:45:21,500
out other missions.
He said there was many as 5,000

787
00:45:21,500 –> 00:45:26,100
members shit and then at One
point he’s listing off the

788
00:45:26,100 –> 00:45:30,100
things that they worked on and
he just almost kind of casually

789
00:45:30,100 –> 00:45:33,500
throws out this quote, we were
involved in Mozambique

790
00:45:33,500 –> 00:45:37,500
spreading, the AIDS, virus
through medical conditions and

791
00:45:37,500 –> 00:45:40,500
then he just like starts
mentioning other shit and the

792
00:45:40,508 –> 00:45:43,800
filmmaker and I think you’re in
was with him are both like,

793
00:45:44,200 –> 00:45:47,700
rewind, can you go back?
Where are you saying that you

794
00:45:47,700 –> 00:45:51,100
spread the AIDS virus on
purpose?

795
00:45:51,500 –> 00:45:54,000
And he’s like, yeah, yeah, we
did that.

796
00:45:54,200 –> 00:45:58,200
Which that’s pretty nasty.
Ain’t through vaccines.

797
00:45:58,400 –> 00:46:02,200
Yeah.
Adam and you guys ditchin to

798
00:46:02,200 –> 00:46:04,700
about giving these anti-vaxxers
anything.

799
00:46:04,900 –> 00:46:06,900
I don’t know how I feel about
giving them this nugget of

800
00:46:06,900 –> 00:46:08,500
Truth.
Exactly.

801
00:46:08,600 –> 00:46:11,000
I feel uncomfortable with it.
Well they’re yeah, they’re

802
00:46:11,000 –> 00:46:18,900
zapping cold dirty room.
They also talk about the case of

803
00:46:18,900 –> 00:46:23,900
a woman named dog Mar fail.
That’s the flags Dagmar, right?

804
00:46:24,100 –> 00:46:26,200
Right?
She was, she was a piece.

805
00:46:26,200 –> 00:46:28,500
She was also a white supremacist
named.

806
00:46:28,500 –> 00:46:32,600
I’m just laughing at the name.
Jaguar file or feel it?

807
00:46:32,600 –> 00:46:35,500
She was she was recruited into
syme.

808
00:46:35,500 –> 00:46:39,200
Are she worked in a lab of some
sort but never gave her brother

809
00:46:39,200 –> 00:46:44,100
details, but she did mention
AIDS, research, a whole bunch.

810
00:46:44,200 –> 00:46:48,800
And at one point they like just
really quickly or like, so she

811
00:46:48,800 –> 00:46:51,200
became a white supremacist.
Yeah.

812
00:46:51,600 –> 00:46:54,000
And then they say, she went to
Mozambique.

813
00:46:54,400 –> 00:47:00,200
And was there to give vaccines
and then found out that what she

814
00:47:00,200 –> 00:47:04,300
was actually doing was spreading
the AIDS virus and decided she

815
00:47:04,300 –> 00:47:06,400
was going to tell the truth
about it.

816
00:47:06,400 –> 00:47:13,200
So like murdered her stabbed her
to death and what’s that and

817
00:47:13,200 –> 00:47:14,400
Frank?
What about all people?

818
00:47:14,400 –> 00:47:16,500
And good stuff and people being
good.

819
00:47:17,000 –> 00:47:19,300
I don’t know.
Remember that.

820
00:47:19,800 –> 00:47:23,100
No 13 year, olds are crazy.
Can’t trust him.

821
00:47:24,200 –> 00:47:30,100
So back to Alexander Jones.
Ya Alexander Jones once he says

822
00:47:30,100 –> 00:47:36,400
this, he starts to really go off
and give up a lot of details and

823
00:47:36,400 –> 00:47:41,700
he says, it was about retaining
white supremacy on the African

824
00:47:41,700 –> 00:47:46,400
continent and says, all of those
local clinics that Keith

825
00:47:46,400 –> 00:47:50,800
Maxwell, set up where actually
set up to spread the AIDS virus.

826
00:47:51,000 –> 00:47:56,700
And he also knew Dog, Mar file
And confirmed the Mozambique

827
00:47:56,700 –> 00:48:00,300
story and that she was going to
testify about the spread of

828
00:48:00,300 –> 00:48:03,700
AIDS.
So Simon took her out and her

829
00:48:03,700 –> 00:48:07,100
mom wants to tell the story in
front of the Truth and

830
00:48:07,100 –> 00:48:10,700
Reconciliation Commission and
they won’t let her.

831
00:48:10,800 –> 00:48:13,400
They decide it’s too
controversial.

832
00:48:13,500 –> 00:48:18,500
But later, Keith Maxwell for
some reason like grows a

833
00:48:18,500 –> 00:48:22,400
conscience or something and as
he’s about to leave the country,

834
00:48:22,500 –> 00:48:26,200
he gives her all the This
information pertaining to her

835
00:48:26,200 –> 00:48:28,400
daughter like all of these
documents.

836
00:48:28,500 –> 00:48:31,100
See, this is why I think eighth,
what Maxwell is a super villain

837
00:48:31,100 –> 00:48:35,000
because this the amount of
explaining of how evil he is.

838
00:48:35,000 –> 00:48:36,800
Is something that only Bond
villains do.

839
00:48:37,000 –> 00:48:41,000
Oh yeah.
So that’s my, that’s my teeth in

840
00:48:41,000 –> 00:48:44,500
those documents.
They find a ledger that claims

841
00:48:44,600 –> 00:48:48,800
teeny Groner walled ordered the
killing of Dagmar.

842
00:48:48,900 –> 00:48:52,800
The same guy who earlier in the
documentary said he had never

843
00:48:52,800 –> 00:48:55,100
heard of syme are All.
Yes.

844
00:48:55,100 –> 00:48:59,500
They looked like fake documents.
Yeah, looks fake to me, mate.

845
00:49:00,100 –> 00:49:02,100
That’s how they talk South
Africa.

846
00:49:02,400 –> 00:49:04,900
So, you are when you’re
scrutinizing documents,

847
00:49:05,000 –> 00:49:10,000
Alexander Jones says, he thinks
that they were all at syme are

848
00:49:10,000 –> 00:49:13,900
working at the behest of the
British government which sir

849
00:49:14,400 –> 00:49:18,000
like that’s that’s a thing.
We know governments, get it.

850
00:49:18,000 –> 00:49:22,700
Like we know the CIA does that
the CIA sets up groups and

851
00:49:22,700 –> 00:49:26,000
fucking calm.
Immunes and shit all over the

852
00:49:26,000 –> 00:49:28,900
fucking world.
Hmm and all the time these

853
00:49:28,900 –> 00:49:31,400
things are getting traced back
to the CIA.

854
00:49:31,600 –> 00:49:35,200
So it stands to reason that the
British government like what’s

855
00:49:35,200 –> 00:49:36,600
the British government going to
do?

856
00:49:36,600 –> 00:49:40,400
If they want someone to shoot
down, dog, Hummer Schultz, play

857
00:49:40,400 –> 00:49:43,600
another going to send the
British military course not.

858
00:49:43,700 –> 00:49:46,900
No, you have to pay some, we got
pay some Soldiers of Fortune.

859
00:49:46,900 –> 00:49:48,100
Yeah, yeah.
You don’t want to get like

860
00:49:48,100 –> 00:49:50,200
America’s, you hire The A-Team?
Yeah.

861
00:49:50,200 –> 00:49:52,600
You gotta get fucking mr.
T out there with some chains

862
00:49:52,600 –> 00:49:56,300
about it’s not what he did.
My apologies.

863
00:49:56,500 –> 00:49:59,700
So Alexander Jones says he
thinks they were working at the

864
00:49:59,700 –> 00:50:03,500
past the British government and
he admit that Simon was involved

865
00:50:03,500 –> 00:50:05,900
in the killing of dog.
Hamish old says he was given

866
00:50:05,900 –> 00:50:09,000
pictures of the crash scene that
showed Keith Maxwell with two

867
00:50:09,000 –> 00:50:13,800
other men in military.
Fatigues pictures were used for

868
00:50:13,800 –> 00:50:17,300
recruitment purposes.
Hey, what are we do?

869
00:50:17,400 –> 00:50:19,200
Kaboom there.
That’s what we do.

870
00:50:19,200 –> 00:50:22,100
We kill members of the UN when
they fuck with us.

871
00:50:22,300 –> 00:50:23,900
Do you want to kill world
leaders?

872
00:50:24,000 –> 00:50:30,600
Has and give dance to black
people Sunday, Sunday, 90s.

873
00:50:30,600 –> 00:50:33,400
Yeah, job fair.
Yes I’m are.

874
00:50:33,400 –> 00:50:37,900
Cyber’s timer days.
He says the Ace of Spades is a

875
00:50:37,908 –> 00:50:41,200
CIA calling card, not just a
righteous song this week.

876
00:50:41,200 –> 00:50:44,900
Whoa this quote you do it like
it out.

877
00:50:44,900 –> 00:50:49,000
He was killed because he was
going to change the way the rest

878
00:50:49,000 –> 00:50:52,900
of the world dealt with Africa
financially.

879
00:50:53,200 –> 00:50:59,700
I Leave that whether the Keith
Maxwell spreading AIDS thing is

880
00:50:59,700 –> 00:51:03,800
true or not, which there’s
apparently some debate as to

881
00:51:03,800 –> 00:51:06,300
whether that’s a way you can
spread AIDS.

882
00:51:06,300 –> 00:51:10,500
Even though I’ve always heard,
it’s like one of two ways that

883
00:51:10,500 –> 00:51:16,600
you can spread AIDS.
I absolutely believe that the

884
00:51:16,600 –> 00:51:21,100
United States and the British
teamed up to fucking kill this

885
00:51:21,100 –> 00:51:27,000
guy because they have, we We
they have so many Financial

886
00:51:27,200 –> 00:51:31,100
interests in Africa.
Like we weren’t going to give

887
00:51:31,100 –> 00:51:34,200
all that up.
No, like it’s way easier to just

888
00:51:34,200 –> 00:51:38,000
have the Lone Ranger shoot this
guy out of the sky and we’re

889
00:51:38,000 –> 00:51:41,800
like it probably seems like when
he hit himself alone Ranger and

890
00:51:41,800 –> 00:51:43,600
a sense, wasn’t a dog.
Oh yeah.

891
00:51:43,600 –> 00:51:47,100
For sure.
Like he’s like he’s actually of

892
00:51:47,100 –> 00:51:50,300
all of those political
assassinations in the 60s.

893
00:51:50,300 –> 00:51:54,400
He’s like, he’s the one that
never gets mentioned because One

894
00:51:54,400 –> 00:51:58,500
sees it as an assassination, but
it wasn’t part of a group or a

895
00:51:58,500 –> 00:52:00,200
movement.
I mean, you could say, if you

896
00:52:00,200 –> 00:52:03,600
perhaps killed somebody who is a
leader, like a Cesar, Chavez

897
00:52:03,600 –> 00:52:06,800
type, but they were representing
other people were working with

898
00:52:06,800 –> 00:52:09,000
them towards the same goals, dog
was sort of.

899
00:52:09,300 –> 00:52:12,100
We was working with the UN, but
he was sort of a lone figure

900
00:52:12,100 –> 00:52:15,700
intending to do that, wanted to
do, and working really directly

901
00:52:15,700 –> 00:52:17,900
with these people.
Very higher up and government.

902
00:52:17,900 –> 00:52:21,200
So they knew his temperament,
you know, one-on-one and he

903
00:52:21,200 –> 00:52:24,600
wasn’t like he had a guy who
could step in and be See him and

904
00:52:24,600 –> 00:52:26,800
do what he was doing.
Where had the same agenda,

905
00:52:27,100 –> 00:52:28,300
right?
That wasn’t going to happen

906
00:52:28,300 –> 00:52:30,900
again in the UN, they weren’t
going to put a dog commercial

907
00:52:31,600 –> 00:52:34,900
version 2.0 to take to take over
from and was going to radically

908
00:52:34,900 –> 00:52:36,500
change, right?
Yeah.

909
00:52:36,500 –> 00:52:39,600
And that, it probably seems like
we gave a lot of this

910
00:52:39,600 –> 00:52:43,700
documentary away, but there’s
there’s a lot more details and

911
00:52:43,800 –> 00:52:46,100
it’s the style of it.
It’s but fantastic style.

912
00:52:46,100 –> 00:52:47,300
It’s thrilling.
It’s interesting.

913
00:52:47,300 –> 00:52:50,500
And yeah, you know, the it’s
great art Direction, great

914
00:52:50,500 –> 00:52:52,800
production design, it’s a
mysterious.

915
00:52:52,800 –> 00:52:55,100
It’s the interviews are.
At the characters, have to be

916
00:52:55,100 –> 00:52:58,200
seen to be believed there odd?
Yeah, yeah.

917
00:52:58,200 –> 00:53:02,100
And there’s, there are so many
other crazy details.

918
00:53:02,400 –> 00:53:05,400
I should I feel?
I’m happy.

919
00:53:05,400 –> 00:53:07,400
We’re doing this.
We tried to do this.

920
00:53:07,800 –> 00:53:12,100
We covered this documentary on
pretty scary, but the film, The,

921
00:53:12,100 –> 00:53:15,900
the company that made, it
actually reached out to me

922
00:53:15,900 –> 00:53:19,600
before this came out, right?
And offered to send me a

923
00:53:19,600 –> 00:53:22,000
screener.
So I could cover it before it

924
00:53:22,000 –> 00:53:29,000
came out, but it had so So much
like copy protection on it that

925
00:53:29,000 –> 00:53:33,800
when the me and my co-host were
trying to watch it separately at

926
00:53:33,800 –> 00:53:37,200
the same time and I just sent
her my link and every time she

927
00:53:37,200 –> 00:53:41,100
would start it mine would shut
down and then I would reboot it

928
00:53:41,200 –> 00:53:43,500
and then hers would shut down,
okay.

929
00:53:43,500 –> 00:53:45,200
And we could never get through
the movie.

930
00:53:45,500 –> 00:53:48,800
Yeah, but fucking crazy really
wild.

931
00:53:49,000 –> 00:53:53,200
We kill have dog, Hamish old
like we fucking shot him out of

932
00:53:53,200 –> 00:53:56,200
the sky.
Yeah, and 16 only cuz the bomb

933
00:53:56,200 –> 00:53:58,300
didn’t go off.
We didn’t mention that part.

934
00:53:58,300 –> 00:53:58,900
Oh yeah.
Yeah.

935
00:53:58,900 –> 00:54:01,300
It’s but 16 others as well.
Yeah.

936
00:54:01,400 –> 00:54:03,400
Isn’t that funny to think about
in life you could?

937
00:54:03,400 –> 00:54:05,800
That’s why it’s the you always
always if you’re ever getting on

938
00:54:05,800 –> 00:54:08,200
a plane with a very, very, very
famous or very, very foolish

939
00:54:08,200 –> 00:54:09,300
move.
Maybe switch planes.

940
00:54:09,300 –> 00:54:10,800
I don’t know.
You know, you never want to

941
00:54:10,808 –> 00:54:12,200
think.
I’m some bystanders someone.

942
00:54:12,200 –> 00:54:13,800
So and so getting killed.
Well that.

943
00:54:13,800 –> 00:54:18,200
Yeah, there there’s all the
Malaysia Airlines conspiracies

944
00:54:18,200 –> 00:54:21,000
and one of them, it’s not even a
conspiracy.

945
00:54:21,000 –> 00:54:23,800
There were all these weapons
makers on that play.

946
00:54:23,900 –> 00:54:27,600
Lane and people are like,
mmm-hmm kidnap that plane, get

947
00:54:27,600 –> 00:54:32,300
them weapons, you know, you
never know, worth a look and

948
00:54:32,300 –> 00:54:35,400
good Anya, you know Danish it’s
a sweet.

949
00:54:35,400 –> 00:54:37,700
It’s a very Nordic film in
Africa is.

950
00:54:38,000 –> 00:54:38,700
Yeah.
Yeah.

951
00:54:38,700 –> 00:54:41,900
It’s culturally interesting.
It’s not some psycho from the

952
00:54:41,900 –> 00:54:44,600
Midwest and you know who’s
trying to prove that the Earth

953
00:54:44,600 –> 00:54:46,400
is flat.
Not the right kind of

954
00:54:46,400 –> 00:54:48,100
conspiracy.
It’s not some guy with

955
00:54:48,100 –> 00:54:50,400
questionable hair choices from
Switzerland.

956
00:54:50,400 –> 00:54:53,600
Do those guys, no hair.
No hair done.

957
00:54:54,000 –> 00:54:56,800
So that all right I’m glad we
were I’m glad I watched It’s on

958
00:54:56,800 –> 00:54:59,300
Hulu.
Yeah it’s on Hulu you can watch

959
00:54:59,300 –> 00:55:02,700
it’s called Cold Case, Hamish
old and it’s really fucking

960
00:55:02,700 –> 00:55:05,100
good.
I think they make a compelling

961
00:55:05,100 –> 00:55:08,200
case.
He to that dog Hamish old was

962
00:55:08,200 –> 00:55:12,100
murdered and maybe British
intelligence spread AIDS in

963
00:55:12,100 –> 00:55:15,900
Africa to keep white supremacy
on the continent in place.

964
00:55:15,900 –> 00:55:21,600
Yeah bunch of like jerks and
like speaking to that like

965
00:55:21,600 –> 00:55:25,400
there’s this thing where for the
past Past however, many years, I

966
00:55:25,400 –> 00:55:30,400
think, since Reagan any time,
there’s been a republican in the

967
00:55:30,400 –> 00:55:35,200
white house, we have always put
a stipulation in place that if

968
00:55:35,200 –> 00:55:41,600
we are to send Aid money to
Africa, those countries have to

969
00:55:41,600 –> 00:55:45,200
teach abstinence-only sex
education, right?

970
00:55:45,200 –> 00:55:47,300
Can’t promote the use of
condoms.

971
00:55:47,300 –> 00:55:49,500
They can’t which why?
Why?

972
00:55:49,500 –> 00:55:54,600
Like you can say it’s because
oh, we’re Logistics.

973
00:55:54,600 –> 00:55:57,500
Like, now you want black people
to get AIDS?

974
00:55:57,600 –> 00:55:59,400
Why are you sure that’s what you
want?

975
00:55:59,400 –> 00:56:00,600
For sure.
They definitely do.

976
00:56:00,700 –> 00:56:04,700
I don’t doubt that for a moment.
So, yeah, not a fucking word of

977
00:56:04,700 –> 00:56:07,700
this sounds unbelievable to me.
No.

978
00:56:07,900 –> 00:56:11,700
Like it all sounds very like and
even if they’re like there would

979
00:56:11,700 –> 00:56:15,300
have been no way to spread AIDs
that way doesn’t mean we didn’t

980
00:56:15,300 –> 00:56:20,400
try like in the fact that they
tried is bad enough.

981
00:56:20,400 –> 00:56:21,800
Yeah.
Under the guise of medicine.

982
00:56:21,900 –> 00:56:24,100
Yeah, this is crazy.
Z.

983
00:56:24,100 –> 00:56:27,500
Go watch it, it’s good
documentary, very good, that’s

984
00:56:27,500 –> 00:56:30,000
our episode.
Do we have anything to plug

985
00:56:30,000 –> 00:56:33,400
before we get out of here?
Find me on IG at Crawford comic.

986
00:56:33,500 –> 00:56:37,900
Hey, find me on IG to as the
kids call it at Adam Todd Brown.

987
00:56:37,900 –> 00:56:41,100
That’s hard with 1D and Twitter
I guess.

988
00:56:41,500 –> 00:56:44,700
Yeah, since the defeated.
Oh, geez.

989
00:56:44,900 –> 00:56:49,200
And we’ll have a new way for
people to subscribe to

990
00:56:49,400 –> 00:56:53,500
conspiracy show and all of our
other shows very soon.

991
00:56:53,900 –> 00:56:56,900
Very very soon, it will be
pretty fucking great.

992
00:56:56,900 –> 00:57:01,300
So bolo be on the lookout and
all right, let’s get the fuck

993
00:57:01,300 –> 00:57:03,000
out of here.
Laura say goodbye.

994
00:57:03,100 –> 00:57:05,000
Goodbye goodbye everybody.
You love you.