Conspiracy! The Show Who Killed Marilyn Monroe?

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Welcome to conspiracy the show
with your host, added Todd Brown

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and Connor mcspadden.
Hey everybody, Welcome to

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Adam Todd Brown.
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months Connor, mcspadden is on
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I’m on the road and met.
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Without each other absence,

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makes the heart grow fonder.
Connor, are you hard for him to

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miss him?
We miss you, baby.

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We miss him.
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Turn the Page, just like the Bob
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Shit.
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Yeah, it’s fun.
Can we record all the podcast?

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I’m not on there.
Just actually, I think most is

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just stay out of your house.
Most of the podcasts.

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I’m not on, do not record here,
except for best bad movie ever.

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Yeah.
And take a walk occasionally,

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whenever we’re just kind of in a
pinch for a studio.

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Yeah.
And I don’t mind, I mean, I get

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a pit winter.
Oh my fucking God, I forgot your

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present.
Again, this is like the 18th

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time I did this.
It’s been since Christmas.

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Just this ongoing thing where
you keep forgetting.

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It is kind of A gift at this
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If I literally put it in front
of my front door because I have

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forgotten your Christmas gift.
Every time we’ve seen each

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other, which is so many times
since Christmas.

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Yeah, we’ll get it together
someday.

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Yep, so we’re talking about
Marilyn Monroe today.

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I am so psyched.
This is exciting.

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This is a conspiracy.
I haven’t looked into much

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because I just assumed it was
probably the Kennedys.

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Yeah, that’s my usual conclude.
Well.

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The CIA Kennedy’s RCA or
honestly, honestly think Kennedy

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related exactly.
Yeah, it’s usually like with

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Marilyn, Monroe, someone kissed.
So many people wanted to kill

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her.
Yeah.

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And when it comes to the CIA and
the Kennedys, it’s like that

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commercial with the Hardshell
tacos in the soft.

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Sell tacos.
It’s like why not both?

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It could definitely be.
Its Community starts cheering in

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the background and the
shoulders, I know the

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commercial.
We’re in the same direction.

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No, I my dad and I grew up
obsessed with the Kennedys

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theories.
Yeah.

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So this, this was a fun one for
me because literally, I think it

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is one Theory, maybe two at the
most that aren’t Kennedy’s

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related having to do with
Monroe.

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Yeah, we’re going through.
I think seven different theories

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related to the death of Marilyn
Monroe.

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They’re all from one article.
There’s a bunch of different

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articles and they all cover the
same thing.

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Yeah, we’re just going to go
through one of them and we’ve

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done this on the show before it
just kind of way, which one

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sound the least, and most
plausible.

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Yeah, and I’ll cite the source
for this article in a minute

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because there’s just one
sentence in it that I want to

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quote verbatim because it’s one
of my favorite sentences ever

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written about a dead celebrity.
So the official explanation of

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Marilyn Monroe’s, death.
She was found dead August 5th.

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1962 at her home at 12305 5th.
Helena Drive in Los Angeles.

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I wonder if that’s Standing.
I want to check it out because

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that’s one of the locations that
I haven’t visited.

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That’s a dead celebrity location
and if it’s not standing, why

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isn’t Trent Reznor recording an
album there?

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Something obnoxious like that.
At least taking a piece of

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memorabilia and being like, I
understand the implications, by

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the way, my door is still from
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Yeah, I hit a thumb drive with
my new album at Marilyn Monroe’s

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house.
Why’d you do that?

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Put it at a Starbucks and the
cause of her death was ruled

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Old, it was a barbiturate
overdose and it was ruled a

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probable suicide, which that
parts that’s not enough for me.

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Yeah, that’s never enough for
me.

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Probable means that that kind of
implies.

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They just walked in and went,
oh, probably.

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Yeah, it’s gonna be a long day.
It’s been probably she did it.

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I do the drugs in her system and
stuff and she’s a crazy broad.

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I mean, this was, she had, she
had to be basically rescued from

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a mental institution by Joe
DiMaggio at one point.

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Me too, Joe DiMaggio.
Specifically Joe DiMaggio amazed

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he got me out fucking 80 year
old Joe DiMaggio beat someone to

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death caring lowly carrying me
out like it’s a Master and

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Commander kind of deal.
So yeah that so she was having

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like mental health issues,
allegedly, at the time and

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health issues and there was no
note, which people always point

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to as a weird thing.
It’s not that weird but not a

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Good thing only about 40% of
suicide.

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Yeah, cases involve someone who
left a note, very very Willie.

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They don’t have notes or
sometimes the nose just aren’t

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found.
It’s not an every time case and

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people like to assume someone
always does or they’re not

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necessary.
Yeah.

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A lot of the times it’s not
necessary there but you’re not

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an explanation kind of thing,
know what they’re going or going

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on.
It’s an Impulse.

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Yeah.
So it’s not as black and white

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as people seem to assume when it
comes to leaving, like Pretty

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bow as you decide to shut your
mortal coil, right?

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And so, that, that’s kind of the
official explanation.

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She just took too many pills and
died.

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And there are tons of theories
around her death.

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Like you said most relate to the
Kennedys.

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She was famously.
This is a quote from the article

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that we’re pulling this list of
theories from, and I want to

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read it verbatim.
She was famously rumored to be

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sleeping with President John F.
Kennedy while alive and I love I

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that they put while alive at the
end of that because if they

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don’t add that, this is a whole
new Scandal like she died and

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she was fucking Kennedy weird.
I mean if anybody could seem

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like she had it in her, I
laughed so hard and I read that

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entire section.
I had to keep going over it.

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Now is just kind of like man,
who knew there might be somebody

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out.
There is just like he fucked the

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ghost of Maryland coming.
Next week on conspiracy the

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show.
Ah, JFK fuck the ghost of

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Marilyn.
So most of these theories, this

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is from an article on the
rap.com called 7 conspiracy

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theories about Marilyn Monroe’s
death from murderous Kennedy’s

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to UFOs.
I’m so excited for the ladder.

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Also shout-out to the rap for
keeping the same headline

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article title all throughout the
entire life of the Articles and

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that’s commendable for sure.
So she was introduced by the to

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the Kennedys by Frank Sinatra,
which I did not know.

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I don’t know that either, but
that’s all the more ominous

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because he was not a good dude.
No, he had some unsavory

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connections for sure.
Yeah, he did.

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He was a beautiful blue eyed
monster.

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Yeah, kinda.
Yeah.

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And it’s claimed that Joe
DiMaggio never forgave Sinatra

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for introducing Marilyn Monroe
to the Is and in a 2017 book

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called dinner with DiMaggio
memories of an American hero.

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It’s claimed that DiMaggio knew
who killed her.

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And this is tell us where did
you go Joe DiMaggio.

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Oh, he’s about to tell us.
This is one of my favorite

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quotes I’ve ever read.
This is allegedly a quote from

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Joe DiMaggio, the whole lot of
Kennedys were Lady Killers and

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they always got away with it.
They’ll be getting away with it.

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Years from now, I always knew
who killed her but I didn’t want

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to start a revolution in this
country.

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I’ll go to the Grave regretting
and blaming myself for what

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happened to her, huh?
So right there, Kennedy’s did it

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right there and me.
Okay, so I’m not trust in Joe

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DiMaggio, who the fuck do I
trust?

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Exactly and also yeah, their
entire bloodline is stained with

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young lady blood whether it’s
within their own ranks I mean

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fucking Rosemary Rosemary He was
done real dirty for trying to

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act out and quoting.
I believe it was she close the

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curtains?
When it was sunny outside as one

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of the reasons to lobotomize
her?

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That’s insane.
I know.

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So you’ve got it from their own
ranks for Chappaquiddick thing.

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There’s a Chappaquiddick.
What’s my favorite side?

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Detail about Chappaquiddick Ted
Kennedy at one point who was the

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guy who was there?
When what was her name?

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I forget the name of the woman
who drowned Brown at

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Chappaquiddick.
I’m trying to remember her name

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because I know there’s so much.
I want to say Market girls lie.

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I think it’s something like
that.

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No.
Because Moxley was the one I

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believe that was beaten.
Oh, that was beaten by a

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candidate.
Yes.

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Yeah.
She was the fifteen-year-old

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that Ethel.
Kennedy is nephew’s murder.

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Okay, yes.
The the skakel family, Michael

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skakel and whatever.
His other two brothers and

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internet they were, Ethel’s,
never all the comic not involved

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in the murder.
None of these were three grown

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men in the glasses that guy
wears.

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I’m not going to write it off
immediately.

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Yeah, I’ve been like six or
young or not, even born walking.

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I bet he was a hulking
six-year-old, weren’t we?

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All maybe I was a terrifying
six-year-old.

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I mostly just rot ran into the
struggle at my mom.

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Thought I had a death wish but
there’s a lot of death.

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Yeah and the thing about the
reason I brought up Kennedy, my

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favorite side note about
Kennedy, he wrote a children’s

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book.
Look at one point Ted Kennedy

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and it was about his actual dog
swallow the water.

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Before I tell you this you
notice dog’s name was yes

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splash.
Hi and their cat ice pick.

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They had a guinea pig called
rigged airplane.

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Ha ha ha.
What the fuck the Kennedys do

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have an unfortunate history with
women to put it mildly.

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There’s not great with the
girls, they’re not there.

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Lady killers in the bad way.
Yeah, yeah.

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Not in the way you tell a
six-year-old when you like,

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wears a bow tie for the first
time.

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Unless that kid, is there all
skakel fucking killed Martha?

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Box.
Like this is your new conspiracy

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six-year-old murdered a woman.
I don’t know if he was, I don’t

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know how time works.
Exactly.

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None of us could have not been
possible.

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Anyways, fun side, note, I met
Joe DiMaggio at a baseball card

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convention in Galesburg,
Illinois.

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In the late 80s.
Really nice, dude.

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How old are you?
I was probably 9 or 10.

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That’s a good age for baseball
card conventions.

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Yeah, my dad used to take me to
all the time because I collected

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baseball cards.
Cards.

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And there would always be, these
retired players who watched it

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like fucking Legends, which show
up to these things to sign

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autographs.
So I had like Joe DiMaggio,

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autographs, Willie, Mays
autographs, all the fucking

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Legends.
It was great.

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And Joe DiMaggio was really nice
so I believe him but let’s go

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through these theories.
Anyway, even though Joe

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DiMaggio?
Cracked it?

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Yeah.
All right, so the first one she

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was killed by Kennedy to cover
up their Affair.

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This was first put forth by a
guy named Frank.

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Capel in 1964, this article
describes him as a right-wing

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crackpot.
But I’m going to be honest, I

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don’t like this article’s tone
in general, as it relates to

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these theories because they seem
to not want to believe that any

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of them could be true and that
it’s just that Marilyn Monroe,

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killed herself and that’s
boring.

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Yeah, that’s a bullshit.
Boring excuse.

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Yeah.
And also, the what the reason a

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lot of people always bring up
the she was killed by Canada to

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cover up an affair.
And the reason that one doesn’t

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really fly With me, is I feel
like she wasn’t the only one so

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I just her right unless.
Well, his theory claims she got

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really clingy and she just she
just wanted got too attached and

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was maybe going to go public
with the affair, which like, who

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the fuck didn’t know Kennedy was
banging, Marilyn, Monroe, did

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you hear how happy birthday, mr.
President, you don’t do that.

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When a dude’s wife is in the
room, G?

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Yeah, so I mean, It’s possible
but on the list of reasons

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Kennedy would have had it done
this one?

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I don’t like yeah.
I feel like Kennedy was fucking

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a lot of women.
There had to be so much more.

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I feel like there might have
even been more at like a higher

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media ranking.
Probably that would have come

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out at some point and there’s
just because it’s Maryland.

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This is one that’s talked about
but she definitely wasn’t the

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only one.
And if you wanted to cover up,

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he probably would have gone if
you want to cover up an affair.

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To cover up.
Anything else, murder probably

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an affair.
That’s that’s a manatee.

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That’s a money game when it
comes to the Kennedys.

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Yeah.
Yeah.

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And it’s not like Marilyn Monroe
was in a great spot at that

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point in her life.
Yeah.

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So she’s someone who probably
could have just been paid off.

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Yeah if it came to that I think
killing her would have been a

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little bit extreme especially at
that point in history.

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When like the Bay of Pigs had
happened, not too long ago, the

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Cuban Missile Crisis.
Things weren’t great For

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Kennedy.
So he didn’t need a dead models

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blood on his hands.
That’s a money problem.

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Not a murder problem.
Yeah, so we agree.

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Not likely.
She was killed by Kennedy for

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knowing too much.
Now that this is the one that I

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feel is the most plausible.
This was first put forth by

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journalists Anthony Skidoo low
in the 1975 book who killed

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Marilyn Monroe, and he claims
that she kept a A detailed,

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Diary of incriminating
information.

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She overheard from the Kennedys
and that Bobby Kennedy had her

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killed when he found out.
I feel like that’s the thing

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that we get a person killed.
I feel like it is because

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Marilyn Monroe, absolutely,
because she’s always played off

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his like really stupid or really
smart and I don’t think it’s

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either, but I do think that this
was a girl that knew how to

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cover her basis and I think that
if she lived in a time of

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screenshots, she’d have all of
them and for sure, this was her

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screen cap.
In the fuck out of the candidate

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is, right.
This was someone who knew how to

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cover her basis, who knew how to
cover her ass because she’d been

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working in an industry full of
sheisty.

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People already that absolutely
feels like something, she would

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have done his backup plan.
Yeah, I could say it’s

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definitely more plausible than
just she got clingy.

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Yeah.
And because it’s not like

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Kennedy was the only like she
was, she has smarter more

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talented man.
Who went?

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All right.
Yeah.

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Said Joe DiMaggio for fuck’s
sake, he’s an American hero.

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She married an American.
Playwright didn’t she?

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She did Archie Miller, she had
she had a stable right?

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And Kennedy definitely wasn’t
the top of that stable, right?

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So, but I could see this, I
could see if she was detailing

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information about the Kennedys
and the Kennedys do have a

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tradition of murdering women,
sorta specifically.

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Usually, when it comes to
hush-hush things and not a fair

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things, you walked in on
something, you shouldn’t have

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walked in on.
Things.

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Right.
Did you hear that from the

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skakel’s?
#Real skakel killed JFK.

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Every time I start to take a sip
of water.

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You’re like I’m comfortable
Theory, go.

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I liked it every time we talk
about something right before

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recording and I’m like, alright,
we won’t talk about that on the

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recording.
It’s immediately Oscar Mike when

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you drop the the sub, but
meatball sub in the kitchen I

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said, please don’t tell anyone
that is still.

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And and then immediately the
second you hit.

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It record Vanessa ate food off
of the ground and didn’t want me

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to tell you, that’s for sure.
Immediately first line on that

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part.
Yeah, it doesn’t meatball sub 2.

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That is a wet sandwich that
picks up everything on the floor

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and you had winter at that time,
too.

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She’s probably got dog hair in
it.

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And walked back.
She remembers your her.

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That I probably ate a lot of her
hair.

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Oh, good Bobby.
So, yeah.

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I could see her being killed by
the Kennedys for something like

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that.
What about Robert Kennedy?

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Staged her death to look like a
suicide to elaborate.

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Yeah, I mean, it does kind of
speak to what you were saying

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earlier because this I should
add, this was first introduced

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by a journalist named Anthony
summers in the 1985 book

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goddess, The Secret Lives of
Marilyn Monroe, and what he

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claims is that she threatened to
go public with her affair with

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Bobby Kennedy.
And instead of killing her, he

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just kind of tried.
I’d to shut her up by enabling

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her drug and alcohol problem.
Hmm, which does seem more like

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the route.
They would take.

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This is the usual route that’s
done with famous young women,

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right?
And this Theory claims that,

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they took that a little too far
and she overdosed and on the way

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to the hospital.
She died.

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So they decided to turn it
around and take her back to her

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place and staged it to look like
a suicide.

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Honestly could have been that or
like an oops party.

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Yeah.
Like I don’t maybe it maybe it

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wasn’t an affair that he was
enabling.

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Maybe it was just they were both
doing a bunch of barbiturates

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together, but one of them OD’d
it could be but our

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barbiturates, a party drug.
Like do you do those with

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people?
Just so you can, like, both fall

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asleep on the couch?
Yeah, maybe they were coming

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down off of something.
Yeah, that could be there are

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coming down off of something.
Maybe barbiturates are fun to

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pork on.
It could have been.

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There could have very well been
a Two different reasons for them

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to do it together.
Yeah.

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Or it could have just been her
thing while they were hanging

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out and it was just like, hey,
it’s there.

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It was a party of to announce a
party of one.

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Help me a jig or Hoover.
Yeah, exactly.

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Yeah.
The only thing I don’t like

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about this theory is that there
are a lot of people at her house

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that night and there’s actually
one Theory near the end.

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The theory, I think, here’s what
sucks about the Marilyn Monroe

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theories to me as much as I want
it to.

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Kennedy related.
The one that’s not Kennedy

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related that will get to on this
list.

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Sounds like the absolute most
plausible to me.

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I know it sucks.
But this one isn’t bad because

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this there is like there’s I
don’t know if I have it in the

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notes but when you get into the
mob stuff it’s rumored that she

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was fucking someone in the mob
also and that at one point he

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went to her place and installed
hidden cameras and caught Bobby.

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Ade doing drugs and having sex
with Marilyn Monroe.

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Also.
So that could be, I think that’s

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possible that maybe they were
just partying together and she

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died and he decided to get the
fuck out of there and make it

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look like a suicide.
Yeah.

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It’s a very nice that one’s that
one’s a likely one for me

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because that one I feel like is
something that has happened

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before and it’s one that one of
the Common rebuttals People Have

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whenever you bring up a
conspiracy theory or one of the

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most common objections I guess,
is 0, but so many people would

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have had to lie for so many
years.

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Yeah, that to work.
And in this you only need like

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five people.
Yeah.

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And the the government, the
Kennedys, whoever you’re talking

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about, they have enough money to
pay off three or four.

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Marilyn Monroe, employees for a
lifetime.

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They have enough money to make
me go by the name.

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Greg for the rest of my life and
not question it.

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Absolutely.
Okay, guess it’s my name now.

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I guess.
I’m Greg.

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I’m comfortable with it.
Everyone act?

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Like I’ve always been Greg, that
would be cool.

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Yeah, like if someone just like
I would take that money.

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I’ll action.
I changing my name.

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Yeah.
We like no, I’m Dave Now give me

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five million dollars and I will
name myself.

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Dave Matthews Band.
I feel like that’s a dangerous

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proposition.
That could make you rich, I’m

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scared and excited.
But now you have to make your

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stage name, Dave Matthews Band
angered, your so many people

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change.
Your stage name to the Dave

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Matthews Band of Comedy.
Everybody likes me but they,

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never sure if I’ve heard before
they’ve heard me before.

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Just stop hurting me.
So Dave Matthews Band, well,

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that was me.
Like a Dave Matthews thing but

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just like the few things about
me from sin and heard of one

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Dave Matthews Band song in my
entire life because they’re all

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really very and you played it
for me.

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And I could not recognize it,
which is how we found out I had

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gone their entire life without
hearing a day Matthew song.

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Oh no, yeah I think it was
probably crash or something like

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that.
I think it was a kind of sounded

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like a sound, like a very, it
sounded like crash or brick, or

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any of those.
Like one word aggressive names

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that came to be socks for a
while.

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He’s garbage and he probably
Probably killed John F, Kennedy.

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Dave Matthews killed, John F
Kennedy.

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Yeah, he was sent here.
Who’s a South African

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intelligence agent?
Because Dave Matthews is from

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South Africa case.
Anyone didn’t know that we’re

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Steely.
Dan from also South Africa,

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probably So yeah, maybe Kennedy
staged her death.

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All right, now we’re getting
into the money.

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She was killed by the CIA to
hurt the Kennedys curveball,

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right?
This was a claim made by Matthew

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Smith.
In the book victim, the secret

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tapes of Marilyn, Monroe, the
entire lifetime.

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Nice of these book title.
I know it’s great.

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Well, it’s Marilyn Monroe.
They have to bring in that load.

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If you can’t handle me at my
worst, you don’t deserve me at

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my best crowd view that can’t
handle him. – you don’t deserve

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me at foaming at the mouth.
Yeah, pretty much.

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And if I heard that from anyone,
I’d be like, all right.

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Cool.
Yeah, I guess I don’t.

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Oh, move on.
She was killed by the CIA to

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hurt the Kennedys.
His claim is that she the CIA

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knew she was sleeping with
Bobby, Kennedy and killed her in

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retaliation for the Bay of Pigs
invasion.

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Disaster.
What?

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I don’t like that one now
because the see I’m actually

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They don’t strike me as a
retaliation type of outfit.

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Now, like they wouldn’t, I don’t
think they would kill Marilyn

436
00:23:46,100 –> 00:23:48,500
Monroe because their feelings
were hurt.

437
00:23:48,600 –> 00:23:50,600
Yeah.
They cut off resources.

438
00:23:50,600 –> 00:23:55,400
They don’t like off off abroad.
And I mean, I dunno off abroad,

439
00:23:55,400 –> 00:23:58,000
but not for this, right?
I mean, I do think they may be

440
00:23:58,000 –> 00:24:00,500
killed.
Kennedy Bobby, Kennedy.

441
00:24:01,100 –> 00:24:05,600
And maybe Jay.
Yeah, yeah, the Bobby Kennedy

442
00:24:06,300 –> 00:24:11,000
Loki is the way.
More interesting and terrifying

443
00:24:11,300 –> 00:24:15,600
Kennedy assassination conspiracy
theory because I think JFK was

444
00:24:15,600 –> 00:24:19,200
just accidentally shot by a
secret service agent who was

445
00:24:19,200 –> 00:24:22,700
responding to Lee Harvey Oswald
actually firing shots.

446
00:24:22,700 –> 00:24:24,800
That’s my favorite Theory.
It’s so good.

447
00:24:24,800 –> 00:24:27,700
It’s because it’s so compelling.
Yeah, if you watch the

448
00:24:27,700 –> 00:24:31,200
documentary, that guy research
that shit for 15 fucking years

449
00:24:31,200 –> 00:24:34,200
because that also is kind of
what happened in four lions.

450
00:24:34,200 –> 00:24:36,700
And I’ve always wondered how
they’d handle that, I don’t

451
00:24:36,700 –> 00:24:39,100
what’s for lions.
You never okay, so far.

452
00:24:39,100 –> 00:24:41,800
Lyons is that Riz.
Ahmed was in that movie.

453
00:24:41,800 –> 00:24:44,600
It’s about for Riz.
Ahmed.

454
00:24:44,900 –> 00:24:46,000
Who is that?
He’s a rapper.

455
00:24:46,200 –> 00:24:48,300
Oh, I don’t know.
It’s a really funny dark comedy

456
00:24:48,300 –> 00:24:49,000
about.
Okay?

457
00:24:49,100 –> 00:24:54,000
For Jihad terrorists, that are
trying to plan a bombing, but

458
00:24:54,000 –> 00:24:56,600
it’s like the Hot Fuzz of
terrorist movies.

459
00:24:56,600 –> 00:24:58,700
Oh yeah.
It’s very ridiculous.

460
00:24:58,700 –> 00:25:02,700
And very funny.
And in one of it when they’re

461
00:25:02,700 –> 00:25:08,200
both changing their minds about
suicide bombing a marathon, But

462
00:25:08,200 –> 00:25:11,900
there’s already been a call on
them and as they’re running, one

463
00:25:11,900 –> 00:25:15,200
of the agents called, to the
scene, can’t figure out what

464
00:25:15,200 –> 00:25:19,600
crazy costume, they’re in, and
what a bear looks like, because

465
00:25:19,600 –> 00:25:21,000
one of them is in a bear
costume.

466
00:25:21,200 –> 00:25:23,700
So we accidentally shoots an
innocent man in a Chewbacca

467
00:25:23,700 –> 00:25:27,500
costume because he thought
Chewbacca was a bear.

468
00:25:27,900 –> 00:25:30,400
So, they have an argument over
a, just shot a fucking

469
00:25:30,400 –> 00:25:32,400
bystander, because he couldn’t
tell the difference between

470
00:25:32,400 –> 00:25:35,200
Chewbacca and a bear.
That’s great.

471
00:25:35,200 –> 00:25:38,400
And then the end credit to them
like covering up that That.

472
00:25:38,400 –> 00:25:41,900
Oh, they didn’t shoot a
bystander and that’s very

473
00:25:41,900 –> 00:25:44,700
similar to that theory.
Yeah, that’s great.

474
00:25:44,700 –> 00:25:46,300
It’s you love it?
Yeah.

475
00:25:46,300 –> 00:25:48,300
If anyone hasn’t said we did an
episode about it.

476
00:25:48,300 –> 00:25:51,600
If anyone hasn’t seen it, watch
JFK The Smoking Gun.

477
00:25:52,000 –> 00:25:54,000
That is a really compelling
Theory.

478
00:25:54,000 –> 00:25:56,400
Yeah.
And it, what’s what I love about

479
00:25:56,400 –> 00:26:01,800
it is it makes everything else.
True Lee Harvey Oswald was the

480
00:26:01,808 –> 00:26:06,500
lone gunman makes that true.
It’s just a sad accident and I

481
00:26:06,500 –> 00:26:07,800
fucking love that theory so
much.

482
00:26:08,300 –> 00:26:11,700
But the Bobby Kennedy
assassination, that is some CIA

483
00:26:11,700 –> 00:26:13,700
mind control weirdness right
there.

484
00:26:14,000 –> 00:26:19,300
Like everything about the the
fucking every witness reports

485
00:26:19,300 –> 00:26:23,200
that Sirhan Sirhan was standing
in front of Bobby Kennedy and

486
00:26:23,200 –> 00:26:27,200
shooting the shot that killed
Kennedy went in behind the back

487
00:26:27,200 –> 00:26:29,900
of his fucking ear.
Yeah that’s it.

488
00:26:29,900 –> 00:26:34,100
Somewhat you throw fancy as if
someone put him in a headlock

489
00:26:34,100 –> 00:26:37,700
and shot him in the head
basically yeah possibly while

490
00:26:37,700 –> 00:26:39,500
highwomen Hiding behind the
person that they were

491
00:26:39,500 –> 00:26:41,400
pretending.
Was the killer God?

492
00:26:41,400 –> 00:26:43,900
I love that theory.
It’s so good.

493
00:26:44,100 –> 00:26:49,900
So fun, so good.
So so I buy that the CIA could

494
00:26:49,900 –> 00:26:52,300
be involved in this at some
point but I don’t buy that they

495
00:26:52,300 –> 00:26:54,700
would do it for retaliation.
Yeah that’s too.

496
00:26:54,700 –> 00:26:58,000
That’s too mean girl.
Yeah that’s and it’s way too

497
00:26:58,000 –> 00:26:59,300
risky.
Yeah.

498
00:26:59,600 –> 00:27:03,300
Because what’s like the payoff
isn’t worth what could come out

499
00:27:03,400 –> 00:27:06,900
right?
And I feel the same way about

500
00:27:06,900 –> 00:27:09,500
the theory.
That she was killed by the mafia

501
00:27:09,600 –> 00:27:13,600
to hurt the Kennedys, the book
double-cross written by Chuck

502
00:27:13,600 –> 00:27:18,000
and Sam giancana, the brother
and godson of the real Sam

503
00:27:18,000 –> 00:27:20,500
giancana, who was a mob boss
from Chicago?

504
00:27:20,900 –> 00:27:23,500
This book claims she was killed
on orders from him.

505
00:27:23,900 –> 00:27:27,900
And it was allegedly meant to
convince Robert Kennedy to back

506
00:27:27,900 –> 00:27:31,500
off his Crusade against
organized crime seems like a

507
00:27:31,508 –> 00:27:35,300
terrible strategy also too risky
for the payoff SuperDuper risky.

508
00:27:35,400 –> 00:27:37,500
The mob is someone else that
doesn’t usually work.

509
00:27:37,800 –> 00:27:40,500
Ocean Ali.
I mean yes or no they when it’s

510
00:27:40,500 –> 00:27:43,100
something like Marilyn Monroe or
somebody’s just very much in the

511
00:27:43,100 –> 00:27:46,700
spotlight.
That’s not that’s not worth the

512
00:27:46,700 –> 00:27:48,400
payoff.
Yeah.

513
00:27:48,400 –> 00:27:51,400
And if you look into
organizations like this, you’re

514
00:27:51,400 –> 00:27:55,100
right.
They try to take emotion out of

515
00:27:55,100 –> 00:27:55,900
it.
A lot.

516
00:27:55,900 –> 00:27:59,000
Like it on the wire there.
Yeah, there’s an episode of The

517
00:27:59,008 –> 00:28:03,400
Wire where Stringer Bell kind of
gets fleeced by this was in a

518
00:28:03,400 –> 00:28:05,500
congressman or state
representative.

519
00:28:05,500 –> 00:28:08,600
I don’t remember.
And this guy He gave all this

520
00:28:08,600 –> 00:28:11,600
guy, this guy like all this
bribe money to get these permits

521
00:28:11,600 –> 00:28:14,200
and then the guy just took the
money and Stringer Bell.

522
00:28:14,200 –> 00:28:18,600
Wanted to have this guy
assassinated and Avon Barksdale

523
00:28:18,600 –> 00:28:21,600
was like, now I that know that
some Day of the Jackal shit.

524
00:28:21,600 –> 00:28:23,700
We would need like actual
assassins to do that.

525
00:28:23,700 –> 00:28:26,500
Just got to take the hit there,
be so much heat on us for that,

526
00:28:26,800 –> 00:28:31,100
and I can’t picture the mob
being like, you know, it’ll get

527
00:28:31,100 –> 00:28:33,200
him to back off us.
Let’s kill that woman.

528
00:28:33,200 –> 00:28:34,700
He loves.
Yeah.

529
00:28:34,700 –> 00:28:39,300
No, that’s how that would be.
Be such like have they never

530
00:28:39,300 –> 00:28:42,700
seen 80s Revenge movie?
I mean by that point they hadn’t

531
00:28:42,700 –> 00:28:47,000
but well because then it’s
eventually the mob and JFK

532
00:28:47,000 –> 00:28:50,100
having to compete in a ski race.
Exactly.

533
00:28:50,500 –> 00:28:53,700
And that I would watch and watch
the fucking but I feel like if

534
00:28:53,700 –> 00:28:56,100
this theory was true, that would
have happened.

535
00:28:56,100 –> 00:28:58,900
Yeah, it would have progressed
to the point where there was a

536
00:28:58,900 –> 00:29:01,000
ski race and then that’s how
they win America.

537
00:29:01,400 –> 00:29:08,400
Yeah, is that Spies Like Us?
I think so, it’s Movie were

538
00:29:08,400 –> 00:29:11,000
sure.
So yeah, I don’t like either of

539
00:29:11,000 –> 00:29:14,800
these Revenge Type theories,
emotional.

540
00:29:15,100 –> 00:29:17,500
They don’t, they don’t make
sense to messy.

541
00:29:17,500 –> 00:29:19,000
It’s not what I would do.
If I was running.

542
00:29:19,000 –> 00:29:22,400
A government feels too much like
the fan fiction of conspiracy

543
00:29:22,400 –> 00:29:23,800
theories.
Yeah.

544
00:29:23,800 –> 00:29:27,000
Yeah.
Or like the I know it’s like a

545
00:29:27,008 –> 00:29:29,100
conspiracy theory for
housewives.

546
00:29:29,100 –> 00:29:31,100
Yeah.
Like the it’s like an

547
00:29:31,100 –> 00:29:33,600
investigation discovery kind of
thing and I don’t think that’s

548
00:29:33,600 –> 00:29:34,500
what this.
It’s the kind of thing.

549
00:29:34,500 –> 00:29:35,900
You’d read and Prevention
magazine.

550
00:29:36,300 –> 00:29:38,200
Yeah, exactly.
Why not?

551
00:29:38,200 –> 00:29:39,200
For us?
Not for us.

552
00:29:39,200 –> 00:29:41,200
Big Leaguer, conspiracy
theorist, right?

553
00:29:41,600 –> 00:29:44,300
Prevention magazine.
How to not get murdered by your

554
00:29:44,300 –> 00:29:47,600
famous boyfriend.
Also, aloe vera, good for IBS

555
00:29:47,900 –> 00:29:51,600
page, 13.
Well, now I need to know, is it?

556
00:29:51,700 –> 00:29:55,000
It’s great, my mom, drinks it so
much.

557
00:29:55,400 –> 00:30:01,900
Oh man, I didn’t even my mom has
I be Sorry Mom, I didn’t know

558
00:30:01,900 –> 00:30:04,600
you could drink aloe vera.
I mean, it’s a liquid I suppose.

559
00:30:04,600 –> 00:30:07,700
Yeah, it comes in like juice for
him sometimes and it’s really

560
00:30:07,700 –> 00:30:10,700
she drinks it with like that and
mint and some other stuff.

561
00:30:10,700 –> 00:30:12,900
So it’s like really refreshing
as it goes down.

562
00:30:13,100 –> 00:30:14,600
Get a shot of it.
Every time I hang out with her

563
00:30:14,600 –> 00:30:18,500
is pretty nice.
I burp up freshness for like

564
00:30:18,800 –> 00:30:22,200
hours and burn relief.
Yeah, burn your arm.

565
00:30:22,200 –> 00:30:23,900
Just throw up on it.
Three.

566
00:30:25,200 –> 00:30:29,400
I can heal.
All right, let’s talk about.

567
00:30:29,400 –> 00:30:32,700
There’s two theories left this
next one.

568
00:30:33,000 –> 00:30:37,200
It’s so boring, but it also
sounds like exactly the kind of

569
00:30:37,200 –> 00:30:40,900
thing that happens in ela wanted
to be true, but it feels like it

570
00:30:40,900 –> 00:30:44,100
can be.
It feels very true and this is

571
00:30:44,100 –> 00:30:48,800
the theory that her suicide was
actually a cover-up by her

572
00:30:48,800 –> 00:30:55,000
doctors and this theory was put
forth in the 1993 book, Marilyn

573
00:30:55,000 –> 00:30:59,200
Monroe, the biography.
That’s a Lofty title written by

574
00:30:59,200 –> 00:31:02,500
Donald spot.
Oh, and he claims her death was

575
00:31:02,500 –> 00:31:06,200
an accidental overdose but that
it happened after she lied to

576
00:31:06,200 –> 00:31:09,700
her doctors about how much
medication she was taking, so

577
00:31:09,700 –> 00:31:14,100
they end up Lee, they end up
over, prescribing her medication

578
00:31:14,500 –> 00:31:20,300
and she dies of an accidental
overdose and they being afraid

579
00:31:20,300 –> 00:31:23,400
of the consequences of what
might happen to them as medical

580
00:31:23,400 –> 00:31:25,200
professionals.
I love Michael Jackson.

581
00:31:25,200 –> 00:31:27,900
Yeah, exactly.
In light of having killed One of

582
00:31:27,900 –> 00:31:31,900
the world’s biggest stars they
conspire with the housekeeping

583
00:31:31,900 –> 00:31:36,700
staff to Stage it and make it
look like a suicide.

584
00:31:36,900 –> 00:31:41,300
And what’s really interesting is
the housekeeper is mentioned

585
00:31:41,300 –> 00:31:46,000
specifically in this Theory.
And if you look at the official

586
00:31:46,000 –> 00:31:50,000
explanation for it, she’s kind
of the one who kicks things off

587
00:31:50,000 –> 00:31:54,300
because she discovers at 3 a.m.
by the way which is a weird time

588
00:31:54,300 –> 00:31:56,900
to check.
I would think but discovers at 3

589
00:31:56,900 –> 00:31:58,200
a.m.
At Marilyn Monroe’s.

590
00:31:58,200 –> 00:32:02,000
Door is locked and she’s not
responding when they knock on

591
00:32:02,000 –> 00:32:05,500
the door or yell for her and
then that kicks off the police

592
00:32:05,500 –> 00:32:08,000
coming over and kicking the door
in and finding her body.

593
00:32:08,300 –> 00:32:10,900
But it was the housekeeper
basically, who first alerted

594
00:32:10,900 –> 00:32:16,600
authorities and it’s thought
that she died somewhere between

595
00:32:16,600 –> 00:32:21,800
8 p.m. and 10 p.m.
And so between that time and 3

596
00:32:21,800 –> 00:32:25,700
a.m., then the housekeeper
decides to check on her and

597
00:32:25,700 –> 00:32:29,200
finds that she’s not.
During that makes it more likely

598
00:32:29,200 –> 00:32:31,300
because at any point, maybe the
housekeeper could have

599
00:32:31,300 –> 00:32:34,300
discovered her sooner or the
doctors could have.

600
00:32:34,700 –> 00:32:37,100
And that’s when they came up
with a theory between the two, I

601
00:32:37,100 –> 00:32:39,900
mean, but but the story between
the two of them and then she

602
00:32:39,908 –> 00:32:42,400
eventually calls at 3:00 a.m.
because it’s more likely, she

603
00:32:42,400 –> 00:32:46,500
comes up at 8 or 10 with like
what that’s a usual tee time for

604
00:32:46,500 –> 00:32:50,000
someone before bed.
That’s a usual glass of water

605
00:32:50,300 –> 00:32:55,300
turndown service time and right,
that’s, that’s right.

606
00:32:55,300 –> 00:32:59,000
When a housekeeper would
discover someone not Not 3 a.m.

607
00:32:59,300 –> 00:33:01,500
and that’s enough time, right?
Here–.

608
00:33:01,500 –> 00:33:04,000
And the doctors to have had that
conversation before they call

609
00:33:04,000 –> 00:33:07,200
authorities, right?
And especially when you consider

610
00:33:07,200 –> 00:33:12,100
that also in the official
explanation, they say there was

611
00:33:12,200 –> 00:33:16,600
her housekeeper was asked to
stay there because specifically,

612
00:33:16,600 –> 00:33:20,400
because they were worried about
Marilyn Monroe’s, mental state,

613
00:33:20,400 –> 00:33:23,200
and they wanted someone to stay
and watch her.

614
00:33:23,500 –> 00:33:27,300
So this woman didn’t check on
her between 10 p.m. and 3:00.

615
00:33:27,400 –> 00:33:31,400
I am and like I feel like that’s
not likely and here’s the thing,

616
00:33:32,100 –> 00:33:34,200
not giving away my hand too much
because I don’t know.

617
00:33:34,200 –> 00:33:35,800
Bugging, people heard me on this
network before.

618
00:33:36,100 –> 00:33:39,100
I’ve been on suicide watch
before and when someone is

619
00:33:39,100 –> 00:33:44,000
assigned to you, they check on
you every hour.

620
00:33:44,900 –> 00:33:48,400
Yeah, you can’t close your door,
they don’t let you close your

621
00:33:48,400 –> 00:33:53,200
door, right?
And it’s not, it’s not so much a

622
00:33:53,200 –> 00:33:55,600
case of like, I’m going to check
on you every few hours.

623
00:33:55,600 –> 00:33:59,000
It is hourly.
Like constant sound around your

624
00:33:59,000 –> 00:34:02,900
door especially if like you’re
assigned to someone by a doctor,

625
00:34:03,100 –> 00:34:05,100
right?
There’s there’s a no closed-door

626
00:34:05,100 –> 00:34:09,699
policy.
Yeah so it as boring as this

627
00:34:09,699 –> 00:34:13,900
theory is it’s the most likely.
It feels like the right one

628
00:34:14,100 –> 00:34:16,800
because it feels like a doctor
fuck up.

629
00:34:17,199 –> 00:34:21,800
And it also at that point The
Keeping a Secret part becomes so

630
00:34:21,800 –> 00:34:24,000
much easier.
Yeah because you’re not

631
00:34:24,000 –> 00:34:26,800
protecting some high-level
government secret.

632
00:34:27,000 –> 00:34:29,900
It’s Like some, I Know What You
Did Last Summer shit, where you

633
00:34:29,900 –> 00:34:32,500
just all share a secret.
It’s a housekeeper that maybe

634
00:34:32,500 –> 00:34:34,800
didn’t check on someone for two
hours and some doctors that

635
00:34:34,800 –> 00:34:36,300
didn’t verify information,
right?

636
00:34:36,300 –> 00:34:39,699
It’s it’s, it is a point, a
point, B, secret deal.

637
00:34:39,800 –> 00:34:41,900
Yeah, it is really easy to keep
from slipping.

638
00:34:42,000 –> 00:34:43,900
Yeah.
And God damn it.

639
00:34:43,900 –> 00:34:46,300
That feels like the most, I
know, because the more I think

640
00:34:46,300 –> 00:34:48,699
about it, I’ll so it really
could have been either mistake.

641
00:34:48,699 –> 00:34:50,300
It could have been the
housekeeper who is basically

642
00:34:50,300 –> 00:34:53,199
placed there who didn’t check on
her enough for, Let Her close

643
00:34:53,199 –> 00:34:56,300
the door, or it could have been
the doctors who both overdosed

644
00:34:56,300 –> 00:34:57,900
her and we’re also, Aware of
that.

645
00:34:57,900 –> 00:35:00,100
And basically just told people
that the housekeeper was on

646
00:35:00,100 –> 00:35:01,000
suicide.
Watch.

647
00:35:01,400 –> 00:35:03,200
Yeah.
Or you know just a combination

648
00:35:03,200 –> 00:35:03,800
of both.
Yeah.

649
00:35:03,800 –> 00:35:05,900
Like where they’re just like
well everyone slipped.

650
00:35:06,000 –> 00:35:07,100
It’s not my fault.
Your fault.

651
00:35:07,100 –> 00:35:08,800
No, I know it’s not my fault.
Your fault.

652
00:35:08,900 –> 00:35:11,400
Now let’s make it look like a
suicide Shake on this.

653
00:35:11,500 –> 00:35:14,000
Yeah.
So I actually like that one.

654
00:35:14,000 –> 00:35:18,300
I like that theory as being a
believable one and not.

655
00:35:18,300 –> 00:35:22,500
It’s not that scandalous either.
It’s not easy to keep from

656
00:35:22,600 –> 00:35:24,400
leaking, right?
Right.

657
00:35:24,600 –> 00:35:27,300
So that’s the one, that’s the
most.

658
00:35:27,500 –> 00:35:29,300
Likely.
But God damn it.

659
00:35:29,300 –> 00:35:31,500
I want this seventh and final
one to be the right one.

660
00:35:31,500 –> 00:35:33,900
No fun.
She was going to expose the

661
00:35:33,908 –> 00:35:36,600
truth behind UFOs.
Vanessa she do.

662
00:35:37,000 –> 00:35:39,200
And the CIA can’t let that
happen.

663
00:35:39,300 –> 00:35:41,700
They’ve proven time.
And again, when they killed Bill

664
00:35:41,700 –> 00:35:44,000
Clinton, when they killed
Hillary Clinton, when they

665
00:35:44,000 –> 00:35:46,900
killed Trump, they haven’t done
any of those things, which is

666
00:35:46,900 –> 00:35:51,200
always surprising to me.
But I’ll know they all know and

667
00:35:51,600 –> 00:35:55,000
there’s rumors that the Kennedy
assassination was related to

668
00:35:55,000 –> 00:36:01,400
UFOs and that he wanted Add to
there was a memo that went out,

669
00:36:01,400 –> 00:36:04,100
not long before he was
assassinated that was basically

670
00:36:04,100 –> 00:36:10,300
him wanting information from the
CIA about UFOs so he could share

671
00:36:10,300 –> 00:36:12,600
it with Russia and start
collaborating with Russia.

672
00:36:12,800 –> 00:36:17,600
So we could work on this threat
together in the CIA was like no

673
00:36:17,600 –> 00:36:22,100
friend.
We don’t think so and if you’ve

674
00:36:22,300 –> 00:36:25,800
ever seen the documentary
unacknowledged which is on

675
00:36:25,800 –> 00:36:34,100
Netflix Was I believe the number
one documentary on iTunes or

676
00:36:34,100 –> 00:36:40,700
Apple movies, whatever the fuck
of 2017 and it’s this guy named

677
00:36:40,700 –> 00:36:43,400
dr.
Steven Greer, who he really has

678
00:36:43,400 –> 00:36:45,300
his shit together.
He doesn’t seem like a crazy

679
00:36:45,300 –> 00:36:48,800
person and he Hill.
Well, he is super duper

680
00:36:48,800 –> 00:36:51,600
convinced that it’s not a matter
of.

681
00:36:51,600 –> 00:36:54,000
Will we ever get evidence?
That aliens are real.

682
00:36:54,000 –> 00:36:58,200
He’s more like what we got it
already and people just I refuse

683
00:36:58,200 –> 00:37:01,500
to believe it or don’t want to
believe it and he actually

684
00:37:01,500 –> 00:37:05,900
mentions in that documentary
that Marilyn Monroe was planning

685
00:37:05,900 –> 00:37:11,800
to leak information about UFOs.
And so the CIA had to kill her.

686
00:37:11,800 –> 00:37:15,300
But here’s the thing.
What anyone have believed it

687
00:37:15,300 –> 00:37:20,000
from Marilyn Monroe at the time.
Grey manta rays girl’s best

688
00:37:20,000 –> 00:37:24,600
friend.
Like what that they could have

689
00:37:24,600 –> 00:37:26,900
just told they could have just
been like, all right?

690
00:37:27,400 –> 00:37:30,300
That’s the easiest thing.
Like, all right, crazy lady, we

691
00:37:30,300 –> 00:37:34,400
love discrediting women.
It’s so easy to do it is and

692
00:37:34,400 –> 00:37:37,300
that’s what like the CIA was
good at discrediting by then

693
00:37:37,300 –> 00:37:39,400
they had already been through
the wormwood Scandal.

694
00:37:39,400 –> 00:37:41,800
Yeah.
So they could have just been

695
00:37:41,800 –> 00:37:46,600
like she’s drunk, she’s a
Starlet, they’re all nuts,

696
00:37:46,600 –> 00:37:51,100
Marilyn, you’re crazy, really
good at like taking someone like

697
00:37:51,300 –> 00:37:54,800
fucking, it’s simple as like,
Amy Winehouse saying, I’m in

698
00:37:54,800 –> 00:37:56,600
trouble.
They’re like, she’s not, like

699
00:37:56,600 –> 00:37:58,500
we’ve got weed.
Do that all the time.

700
00:37:58,500 –> 00:38:00,500
That would have been so easy to
do with Maryland instead of

701
00:38:00,500 –> 00:38:04,200
killing her.
Yeah, I don’t as much as I want

702
00:38:04,200 –> 00:38:07,300
it to be.
I don’t think she was killed

703
00:38:07,300 –> 00:38:09,800
over UFOs.
Call me crazy.

704
00:38:09,900 –> 00:38:12,300
Yeah, maybe I’m the crazy.
Maybe that’s what she meant by

705
00:38:12,300 –> 00:38:16,300
pear-shaped and that song.
It could be.

706
00:38:16,800 –> 00:38:18,300
Could be.
I’ve seen some pear-shaped,

707
00:38:18,300 –> 00:38:23,100
aliens.
Happy birthday originally.

708
00:38:23,100 –> 00:38:27,800
Yeah.
God, I want that one to be true

709
00:38:30,300 –> 00:38:34,200
bug on my computer.
Still not my house pal.

710
00:38:34,400 –> 00:38:36,000
Probably.
Just flicked it into my drink.

711
00:38:36,800 –> 00:38:38,600
It’s protein.
Exactly.

712
00:38:38,600 –> 00:38:43,900
It’s like Snowpiercer.
So that’s the Marilyn Monroe

713
00:38:44,400 –> 00:38:47,800
rundown of theories.
Maybe we’ll settle on a really

714
00:38:47,800 –> 00:38:51,400
compelling one and do a deeper
dive into it at some point.

715
00:38:51,400 –> 00:38:54,400
But I have a doctor’s that
doctors thing seems really

716
00:38:54,400 –> 00:38:58,300
fucking compelling to me.
It just seems so natural and

717
00:38:58,300 –> 00:39:05,400
easy and exactly what kind of
smart people would do kind of

718
00:39:05,408 –> 00:39:09,600
smart, but also awful people.
It seems like exactly what they

719
00:39:09,600 –> 00:39:12,300
would do in that kind of
situation table for the time

720
00:39:12,300 –> 00:39:14,500
period.
Yeah, it didn’t take a lot of

721
00:39:14,500 –> 00:39:17,400
extra.
She was already dead so it

722
00:39:17,400 –> 00:39:20,700
didn’t take any extra didn’t
take any murder.

723
00:39:20,700 –> 00:39:23,900
They didn’t have killer, they
just had to staged it to look

724
00:39:23,900 –> 00:39:26,300
like a suicide which would have
just been Been a matter of

725
00:39:26,300 –> 00:39:28,700
dumping out whatever pills, she
didn’t take.

726
00:39:28,800 –> 00:39:31,400
Yeah, or dumping them down, her
throat, either one.

727
00:39:31,400 –> 00:39:34,500
No, that wouldn’t work because
they wouldn’t dissolve at that

728
00:39:34,500 –> 00:39:36,200
point.
That’s just like putting candy

729
00:39:36,200 –> 00:39:38,900
in a shallow pinata.
Yeah, I’ve watched enough

730
00:39:38,900 –> 00:39:41,800
Forensic Files.
I know same so much that it

731
00:39:41,800 –> 00:39:44,400
like, frightened my parents.
Yeah.

732
00:39:44,400 –> 00:39:48,000
I feel like I could get away
with some shit now but I don’t,

733
00:39:48,000 –> 00:39:49,800
because that’s how people always
get caught.

734
00:39:50,000 –> 00:39:53,100
Always like that, getting cocky.
There’s always that new thing,

735
00:39:53,300 –> 00:39:55,400
and then it’s like, no,
actually, your step count.

736
00:39:55,800 –> 00:39:58,800
It’s like what those are, kept
catching people now.

737
00:39:58,800 –> 00:40:03,400
Yeah, it’s always technology.
Technology advances always lead

738
00:40:03,400 –> 00:40:06,900
to a lot of arrests be at
people, not understanding that

739
00:40:06,900 –> 00:40:10,100
your cell phone can paying off a
tower right by where you dumped

740
00:40:10,100 –> 00:40:13,300
a body?
Yeah, all that shit DNA like oh

741
00:40:13,300 –> 00:40:16,700
I can’t jerk off on a corpse now
phones like Alexa irritants.

742
00:40:17,000 –> 00:40:18,700
Like that.
How do I find a blind spot in a

743
00:40:18,707 –> 00:40:23,100
security camera?
Well, Alexa tell you that, I

744
00:40:23,100 –> 00:40:25,500
have probably and then she’ll
immediately, like, put me on A

745
00:40:25,508 –> 00:40:27,700
list.
Yeah I unplugged my Alexa after

746
00:40:27,700 –> 00:40:31,600
it started playing automatically
just started playing random

747
00:40:31,600 –> 00:40:33,700
music while I was recording
creepy.

748
00:40:34,100 –> 00:40:35,600
Yeah.
I didn’t want that in my house

749
00:40:35,600 –> 00:40:38,200
my I still have a my favorite
thing to do and everybody party

750
00:40:38,200 –> 00:40:41,900
and I see one just to make a
people anxious is just run out

751
00:40:41,900 –> 00:40:46,100
to it and you know Alexa kill
the president and then that’s

752
00:40:46,100 –> 00:40:50,400
pretty great, it’s the best.
All right, so we should wrap it

753
00:40:50,400 –> 00:40:52,200
up.
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754
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755
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756
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757
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758
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759
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760
00:41:11,500 –> 00:41:16,700
one’s Vanessa you can get
Podcast, like, brouhaha air

761
00:41:16,700 –> 00:41:22,100
horns, you get pot get Podcast.
Like, take a walk in which I

762
00:41:22,100 –> 00:41:24,700
stutter just like this.
I don’t know what it is about

763
00:41:24,700 –> 00:41:26,600
that podcast.
That always brings out the utter

764
00:41:26,600 –> 00:41:29,600
chaos and me, but just immediate
stuttering happens.

765
00:41:29,600 –> 00:41:34,400
Yeah.
Or even fun podcasts, like best

766
00:41:34,400 –> 00:41:36,500
bad movie ever.
Best bad movie ever.

767
00:41:36,500 –> 00:41:38,600
We got so many podcasts.
Yeah.

768
00:41:38,600 –> 00:41:40,300
Come listen to him.
We got options are Bleak and

769
00:41:40,300 –> 00:41:42,900
review.
If you want to know what, it’s

770
00:41:42,900 –> 00:41:49,000
like to be me and dating Kevin
because it’s a lot of puns.

771
00:41:49,000 –> 00:41:51,800
It’s a lot of funds in a lot of
voices all the time.

772
00:41:51,800 –> 00:41:56,300
Yeah, more like pun cast.
Got em.

773
00:41:57,500 –> 00:41:58,700
Got it.
Got it.

774
00:41:58,900 –> 00:42:01,900
Stuck it to stuck at Till There
It Is.

775
00:42:03,900 –> 00:42:07,100
Anything else?
Oh well, I’ll be on tour in may

776
00:42:07,100 –> 00:42:11,500
go down pops.com tour.
Oh find dates and April 22nd,

777
00:42:11,500 –> 00:42:14,700
I’ll be at broke.
La very nice, a dope-ass

778
00:42:14,700 –> 00:42:19,500
festival at the Regent Theater
and I Valenzuela is also going

779
00:42:19,500 –> 00:42:20,700
to be there, which is gonna be
real fun.

780
00:42:20,700 –> 00:42:22,800
Why am I going up an inflection?
I don’t know, but they’ll be

781
00:42:22,800 –> 00:42:25,300
Pizza.
All right.

782
00:42:25,500 –> 00:42:28,300
Right, let’s get out of here.
Vanessa, say goodbye.

783
00:42:28,400 –> 00:42:30,000
Goodbye.
Goodbye everybody.

784
00:42:30,000 –> 00:42:31,200
We love you, love you.